Chicks in the Office - Peter Weber Interview + Bachelor Recap w/ Luggage Guy Trent

Episode Date: February 6, 2020

CITO Merch > http://bit.ly/citomerch. Trent talks the behind the scenes of being the luggage guy (12:01-15:47). Bachelor week 5: Monday recap (17:52-1:01:56). Bachelor week 5: Wednesday recap (1:04:55-1:43:56). Interview with The Bachelor, Pilot Pete (1:46:16-2:06:41). Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat show > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat & our YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

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Yep, we just finished watching The Bachelor. We have the star of last night's episode. Star. Trent Ryan, the luggage guy. He stole the show. We're going to get into all of that because obviously it was the teaser for next week. Like we said, like we warned you, it's going to be a Bachelor heavy week. Yeah. Peter on this podcast. It's all Bachelor recap. There was five hours of the show to watch. So I'm sorry if you don't watch The Bachelor, but you're still going to get a great story about our very own Trent. Exactly. Like even if you don't watch the show, You know that Trent got to be the luggage guy and that's huge. I'm very excited to be here. We're excited to have you. I feel like this is we got a big guess. I've been wanting to talk about this.

I've been wanting to talk about this. So I've been tweeting about wanting to be the luggage guy for the better part of three years. I keep tweeting about it. We eventually got followed by ABC producers who follow us on Twitter and see what we do. And at one point, I DM'd one of the producers and was like, I would love to. to be the luggage guy at some point. If I could, they reached back out to me about three months after that. And then that just kind of got the ball rolling.

And then I was eventually the luggage guy. So, okay. So let's rewind because I think a lot of people are interested on how this happened, right? Because, and I know, first of all, what we can say is like you can't really say too much because you signed a lot of shit and we don't want to get you in trouble. I did. I signed a lot of paperwork. But I will say as much as I can.

Yeah. And you didn't really see much. No, I didn't. As it comes to what happens on the show. No, I have no idea. They keep, even for the people who are on the show, they keep that pretty tight. Yeah. Like, they just tell you, they tell you everything you need to know.

Like, I'm in the hotel. Yeah. In Peru. Peru, yes. Well, tell the story from the beginning. Leave out the parts you can't explain and that's it. So you get the, it was a DM. I got a DM from Mills, Robert Mills.

Robert Mills. He said, if you can be at this place, at this place. time, which was if you can be in Peru at this time in October, you can be the luggage guy. I told him, I'm going to be there. I will be there no matter what. This is before I asked anybody if I could go. But I was like, if I'm getting this opportunity, I'm going to take it. I went through all the proper channels in terms of this workplace.

If I could go, I got the AOK. And I flew down to Peru late October. It was the first time I've ever traveled out of the country. This is probably my favorite part of this whole thing was that like you had to get a passport. You've never been out of the country. I've never been out of the country. I did not have a passport. I had to get one expedited because the time between getting that DM and going down there was a pretty short period of time.

Yeah. So I was just like, oh, shit, I got to get a passport. I got a passport. I booked my tickets to Lima, Peru. How long was the flight? Long, right? So you jumped down from New York to Miami, which is a couple hours. And then Miami to Lima, which is like six hours.

Yeah. So it's a bit of a trip. It's a long trip for. But when I'm on that flight, I was just excited. Like I didn't even matter how long the flight was. So we went down to Peru. I was there for like 28 hours, I think. It's just kind of sat in my hotel room until they tell you.

It's time. It's time for you to do your part. They don't tell you anything. They really don't tell you much, which I actually appreciate because I don't want, I don't like keeping secrets anyway. And so the less I have to keep to myself, the better. So they don't tell me anything. I'm in my hotel room.

I'm just waiting. They're like, we're going to shoot at this. time probably. I just wait around my hotel. They come and get me. I go up. I was practicing in my hotel room. I was practicing with my own luggage. And I've watched all the luggage people in the past obviously and sort of how they saunter into a room, the way they can sort of pervade your icons. Right. They're my, they're my heroes, essentially. And I just, so I'm in my hotel room in Peru practicing how to pick up luggage, which is ridiculous. But then they pull me up and they have me do the luggage pull. Yeah. And they send me right back down. And

that's really, that's kind of it. Like they didn't, I didn't see anybody. I don't know whose luggage I pulled. Like you didn't even see Peter. Like we interviewed Peter and he, he obviously had never met you before. And like one of his, one of the ABC PR girls looked at you and was like, did you pull a luggage on this season? Yes. It was just a whole, he didn't know either.

No, I did not see Pete. I didn't see him when I was down there. Again, they keep everything pretty close to the vest. You know what you need to know. And then they send you away, which I liked. Yeah. Can you talk about why you wore what you wore? Yeah.

So I wore a black crewneck sweatshirt and khaki pants. If you go back again and look at all the other luggage people who have done this, they wear all black. Right. They kind of look like security guards. And they call this is a little inside. They call the people who do what I do. I call it the luggage guy. Yeah.

They call it the Grim Reaper. Yeah, yeah. So they wear all black. So they sort of look like the Grim Reaper. They go and they pull the luggage. I made a special request to wear khaki pants because that's what I wear every day. Every day. I just wear it.

Every single day, guys. We're not exaggerating. It's every day. People were like, I love the Trent's wearing what he wore today. And, like, no, it's every day. Yeah. A couple years ago, I decided to streamline my life. And I was like, I'm just going to buy a bunch of black crooncks and a bunch of black shirts

and a bunch of khaki pants. I'm just going to wear those every day. It's made my life way better. And I was like, if I'm going to be on The Bachelor, I want people to know that it's me for sure. So I'm going to wear black and tan. Exactly. That was the for sure way to know that it was.

you and I appreciate you just being open and honest about the fact you have multiple pairs. You're not rewearing the same stuff every day. Trent is a clean guy. I am. And he really just, I remember this. You were like, I'm just going to buy, I'm tired of like picking out outfits. I'm just going to wear the same thing. I have to get that message out there because I feel like people sometimes think I just wear the same pants and same shirt every day. I don't do that. I wouldn't do that. I bought a bunch of the pairs, like I said. So I am, yes, I am a clean person. but I had to wear that on The Bachelor because that's just what I wear every day. And I think it creates the most

like when we saw that flash of khaki pants you knew it was you. You feel at home watching this moment because it's like oh my God, Trent's in my, you know what I mean? Oh my God, he's right in front of my face but he's also on the screen but he looks exactly the same.

And I didn't anticipate being in the teaser. I initially thought when I was going down there that I would shoot the luggage guy thing and then it would just happen. Right. Like the episode would just happen and it would appear and they'd be like, holy shit, that's Trent. No, these guys are smart. They are smart.

They are very smart. The producer that I've been in contact with the most when I was down there, he was actually in Peru with me. I met him. He's a great guy. We've been communicating back and forth about what's going to happen. He told me a couple weeks ago that it was going to be, I was going to be in the teaser. So I just found that out of a co-webiscopee. But it was, I think it's for the best.

I almost wanted it to be. No, it was fantastic. The episode airs. But now I like that I get the teaser. and the episode. Yeah, because now we can prepare people. Right. And I hope there's a little more than just that in the episode as well.

I hope it's not the same exact clip, which I think we will see more. Like we see you maybe entering the room. I think so. Yeah. The teaser clip is... Oh, I have chills. Oh, my gosh. We haven't even seen you enter the room yet.

This is just the beginning. Got to open the door. They close the door behind you. So I got to turn around and close it. And then I walk up. It's, yeah, the clip should be longer. They definitely have a longer one than the one they put in the teaser. This is going to be unbelievable.

It's already unreal. I'm so excited. How, like, what's going on on your Twitter right now? I mean, the reaction. Right. Like, I just searched at Barstle Trent and it's just joyous and good, like, good attitude. People are happy. I mean, yeah, you deserved it.

Yeah. That's very nice of you to say. But I kept the circle very small in terms of who I told. That's true. Is this a hard secret for us? Yeah, I did. I told, I told, I told Rian Fran just because like, you just had to like, they had to know. They'd be like, why was I gone for three days in the middle of October when we do

the, we do the podcast sometimes. I just had to tell a couple people to get it off my chest if we're being quite honest. Yeah. Also, I just would find it straight disrespectful if you didn't tell us. I mean, you come on the bachelor recap. So I kept, I did. I told them.

I kept the circle to like five or six people. So the reaction on Twitter is crazy because nobody knew. Yeah. Pretty much nobody knew. So people are, people are being very nice. They like that I wore the black and the tan. They can't believe that it's actually me, which I get, because I didn't tell anybody. people just being really nice.

I got a lot of texts. I got a lot of phone calls. Your parents? No, they have, I haven't talked to them yet. He did not tell his parents. This is how close I had to keep the circle. I didn't tell my parents. His parents had no idea

he left the country for the first time in his entire life. And that their son was going to be on TV. No, they don't watch the show. I told you. Their son's going to be on TV. I told you to text your mom saying to tell her to watch tonight.

I just, I get so nervous. during these things. They're going to be so upset with you. They are. They really are. So is your aunt who gives you all those cool toys. She's going to be very upset.

She might have been watching, though. I can't remember if she still watches the show or not. But I'm telling you, I just wanted to keep the circle so small. It seems crazy not to tell my parents. Like, who are my parents going to tell? They're retired. They sit at home all day long on their iPads. And then, like, they call me on the phone sometimes.

My dad texted me. Yeah. He said you had an impeccable form. Impeccable. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Ria. Yeah, I didn't tell my parents. Yeah, it's just, I didn't tell very many people all.

So to answer your question about Twitter, it's going crazy. Yeah. It's really going crazy. The response has been great because, like I said, it's been a little bit of a story for like three years where I'll just tweet out how badly I want to be a luggage guy. And then you just happen. I think my favorite is Dave. I could puke. I'm so happy.

I know. I think my favorite was Dave tweeting like the video of him watching it and his reaction where he seemed actually like genuinely shocked. Wait, what the fuck is? What? What? Wait a minute. Did I know this was... Wait.

What a fucking trend. What the fuck? Like he didn't know, but he did. When he knew, you told him you were going. Like, Dave, you had told him, obviously he's your boss. You had to get that approval. And I feel like he just clearly must have just forgotten. He forgot.

I know he did. He definitely did. Because the only time I talked to him about it, it was the initial stages where I was DMing back and forth about when it was going to be and where it was going to be. And I asked him because he's my boss just to kind of clear it with him. I was going to miss a couple days of work. And so he knew

about it. But I also know how his brain works. And since we just haven't mentioned it for three and a half months, he forgot. So when you saw it tonight, he was like, holy shit, what is happening? I can't believe he was watching tonight because he usually only watches or live tweets the first and last episodes. But he was watching Monday

night. And for some reason he was watching tonight and it just he's got a crush on Victoria. I was going to say, I know why he's watching. Yeah, he's got a crush on Victoria P. went home. Well, I'm shocked he didn't shut it off after she left. Yeah. That's true. It's actually a blessing that he forgot because I was worried that he might, because he just

kind of says what's on his mind, which is like what's great about him. But he, I didn't want that to be on his mind and then on radio if he's just like, well, Trent's going to be on the show. And it's like, I just like didn't want that to happen. So I'm glad that he forgot. Best case scenario. Best case scenario. This is like, this is a moment that.

I'm saying tweets of people being like, yes, Trent, like, this goes to show, like, never give up, give up on your dreams. Just tweet incessantly about you, how you want to be on your, in a bit part on your favorite reality TV show. If you tweet about it enough and the right people follow you, you can live your dreams. This blog that people are tweeting back from 2018, why do I want to be the luggage guy on The Bachelor slash Bachelorette for a moment like this? What a moment.

It's like one of those great. luggage guy moments. Yeah. I'm telling you, I've really, I never wanted to be, I don't use it, you know, you do manifest it.

I want that more than anything. I'll keep on dreaming, hopefully one day. Oh my God. And here we are. Here we are. Here we are. It's crazy.

And I, and we're so happy for you. Yeah. Thank you. Like, you know, we, like we said, it's hard because we don't want to, we don't know,

like we don't want to get anybody in trouble. Like you did some stuff. But, big thanks to Robert Mills. Oh my gosh, the biggest of thanks. Unbelievable. Over the next couple days, I need to talk to a couple people and be like, what can I say? Who can I think?

I think I can thank Robert Mills. He was the guy who reached out to me originally, or I guess I reached out to him. He started following me and I sent this ridiculous de end to him. Well, find it because he also had like a hilarious tweet today that teased your moment. Like he teased tonight's two on one and then was like, we also make a Bachelor nation dream come true at the end of tonight's episode. So he, I mean, he was very happy about it. He retweeted your clip. Oh, did he?

Yeah, he did. Fantastic. That's great. So Robert Mills, I DMed him on, looks like early July of 2019, and I said this. He said, making dreams coming true over here is what his tweet was. That's exactly what he did. He made my dreams come true. Yep.

I DMed him. I said, it would truly be an honor to be a luggage guy. If given the opportunity, I think I'd be great at it. I'd remove that luggage like you wouldn't believe. And then, so that was the first. I'd move that luggage like you wouldn't believe. So then that just sat there for a couple months and I felt like an idiot because he didn't respond. And then he responded and kind of got the ball rolling.

But yeah, the biggest of shoutouts to Robert Mills. He made this whole thing happen. And he did. He made my dreams come true. I'm currently putting a story of you on my Instagram right now to say that, yes, guys, it actually was trend. It's not just a twin. It was me. It's definitely him.

I do have a lot of doppelgangers, but that was me. All the details on tomorrow's podcast. I stopped recording, but you know what, and I'll write that. today's podcast. Here it is we're recording. That's, I feel like that's really all the big things. Are there anything else you would like to mention about your big moment? I mean, we can talk about it more next week when it actually happens in the episode

because right now we just got the teaser. Yeah, that's the thing. This is just the beginning of it. It'll be even more intense when we learn whose luggage you pulled. Because I legitimately have no idea who it is. None. They don't tell you. They just say, go in and grab this luggage.

There's a couple of luggage that are sitting out. So I don't even know. But yeah, we'll have the full clip, which will be probably about two seconds longer than the one you saw tonight. It's not going to be the longest thing in the world, but crazy. Okay, so we're going to split this up into two parts. We recapped Monday night show on Tuesday, so we're going to do that first, and then we'll recap Wednesday nights, and then we will go into our interview with Pete. It's long, but worth it. It's worth it, by the way. We interviewed

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One update from 8 to 801. Yeah. And they were like, all right, let's get back to it. And in my head, I was like, boy, they're going to interrupt for like 15 minutes. Right. That's what I was thinking too. And then they just didn't do it ever again. Yeah.

Well, the Iowa caucus had their own major problems. So I feel like that might have had something to do with it. I'm from Iowa. A lot of people ask me questions today that I don't have answers to. They just assume that you're the guy to know. Because you're worried about the bachelor. True. I lived there for 27 years.

I probably should have picked up some knowledge about the caucus. I didn't. I don't know anything about it. The hard factor guys gave me a call the other day because they went out to Des Moines to like sort of be boots on the ground. Yeah. And I told them straight up. I was like, I don't know.

I don't know what it is. I could have done some research, but I wanted to give them my honest opinion. I have no idea what the caucuses are. Right. Well, it made it seem like, but when Chris Harrison tweeted about the interruptions, it made it seem like that they had edited the show that it would, we would still see the whole episode,

even if there was interruptions. And? But then there was no interruptions. and we still saw the whole show until 11 o'clock anyway. His tweet made it seem like that that's the reason it was three hours. Right. Where it was like there's so much interruption that we're going to have a two-hour show, but it's going to be built around this caucus thing.

That was just wrong. Wrong. We got three hours of pure bachelor content. That was just wrong. So it was really just 8 to 11 of straight drama. It was nonstop start to finish. It was a long, it was a long three hours. We went to do the group chat.

and just like I struggled to believe that Alea being sent home happened at the beginning of Monday night's episode. Like that, that just seemed impossible because she left years ago. Yeah, you were. You were like, there's no way that happened on Monday. And it sure did. It was the first thing that happened. Pete realized that he absolutely could not keep Alea because all the girls were going to just throw him over. board. So he had to talk to her again and take back the rose and send her home, which kind of

sucked for you, Trent, because you were, like, so confident about her getting a rose that she would have to stay for, like, another week. I was wrong. But that was you following the rules that don't exist. There are no rules. And it was. I did. I think I thought that him bringing her back or allowing her to come back. That was a rose. So he didn't have to give her the date rose. Took it back anyway. Took it back anyway. So I was wrong. And like you said, this season has no rules. But he had to get rid of Alea. Like the house had reached a boiling point. All of the other girls were on the verge, at least it felt of walking away and being like, I don't want to have to deal with this anymore. So sending Alea home again seemed to be the thing

that sort of calmed all the other girls down, at least for the time being. Right. Right. And he, so he, you know, whatever, he sends her home. He apologizes to all the girls, seems to ease all their minds. And then they go into a rose ceremony that sent home Kira, DeAndra, DeAndra, DeAndra, and Savannah. And Deandra was pissed. She was like, she seemed very confused. She was just joking with Pete about her dress being wifie material and he just sent her home. She got a lot of dramatic music and dramatic cuts to her.

And I felt like I should have known more about Deandra, DeAndra. I did not know. I knew who she was, but she was not a major player at my eyes. Well, it was just so insane because we, there were still. so many, it feels like so much has happened, but there are still so many girls left that we're sending girls home that it's like has no effect on our opinions whatsoever. That, though, the cut of those girls felt like the final cut of relative unknowns. Like the rest of the house, I think I, when I see them, I can place them like Lexi and Kelly and all these people. Up until that point,

those three going home, not a big tearjerker for me because I didn't really know who they were. No, definitely not. Yeah. Then Pete said that they're going to Costa Rica. And everybody was very excited. Well, yeah. This was, you know, because they went to Cleveland last time. So, of course, anything, anything other than Cleveland, I think everybody would have been cheering about. Kelly cracked me up because she was just like, I love traveling. I've been to 26 countries.

She's like, but I'm tired. Like, I'm tired. I'm just hoping to have some fun in Costa Rica. Like, she really doesn't give a fuck. This was really Kelly's coming out episode of just she's a little too rational to be there. She doesn't really want to be on a reality show anymore. but she's like there to be on the vacations, which I completely respect.

Yeah. And then Peter rolls up to all the women in Costa Rica. He has the bandage on his forehead and tells this story about him coming across a puma in the jungle. And the girls really, uh, girls really seem to believe that. Yeah, I don't know if they were just like trying to be nice or what it was. I think that they were just like caught in the moment. You know what I mean? Like if Peter came back.

back and I was standing there and he was like, I was in a fight with a Puma. I don't know myself if I would have been like, no, you weren't. Because I'd like to think I would be smart. But in that, I don't know. Everything Peter says, you know, because it's the only thing they have right now. Because what if he had attacked Apuma or a Puma had to attack it? And you're rolling your eyes. Like, this story is so stupid.

And then he's like, no, here's the footage. And it's him fucking fighting a Puma. But it clearly wasn't true. But I think I'm with you, Rhea. I think I would have gone along with it. Yeah, you can't be the girl to not believe him. Yeah, and then he's obviously like, no, that didn't happen. I bumped my head and then I bumped my head again.

He has a lot of corny jokes. Constantly. Pete does? Yeah, constantly corny jokes. I've, like, made mental note of them. I can, like, tell as the episode goes on when he made these jokes. But that being one of them. Like, ah, just kidding, guys.

No, Puma. That's a very, that's like a dad joke. Yeah. Or it's like, I almost got attacked by Puma. Nah. Yeah. Come on, guys. They did a full reenactment of Peter hitting his head on the golf cart.

It seemed like, or not hitting his head on the golf cart. Seem what happened was he was walking to the golf cart. He bumped into the golf cart. And so like knocked into the golf cart. And then he was holding a glass and then he smacked his head onto the glass. And the glass split his forehead open. Yes, which they did do a very dramatic reenactment of it. And then my favorite part is they also had these security.

security footage. Right. So they didn't really need to do the reenactment, but that's the Bachelor difference for me. They just took every opportunity to do it. I love the reenactment because, like you said, all there was was that very, like, grainy security footage and that was all we had.

So it felt like two different interpretations. A rare moment where the cameras were just off. Like, they usually film everything, and then where Pete gets hurt, they just didn't really have it. Yeah, the security footage was really good, I thought. This just, I feel like, really sums up Pete's season, right?

Like, he is, he seems like such a sweet guy, innocent, just, you know, believes these women for, for, at face value. And he's just getting absolutely dominated in every sense of the word. He is trustworthy to a fault, right? Right, yeah.

Like, he's really just like trying to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Like he's not really seeing all the drama that's going on. And then bam, he just, blitz his head open and has to get 22 stitches from hitting his head with glass. But, you know, he kept on going and he asked Sidney to go on the one-on-one date. She got the first date.

And they go up on a helicopter. This is where those great dad jokes come in where he said, I think you could say love is in the air right now. He was like, literally. Yeah. Yeah, Pete thought he knew that one. He really did. He was so proud of himself.

Which makes me, I don't know if I'd be able to date somebody who thought they were really funny and they weren't. Like, I don't, you know what I'm saying? Because I'm thinking about if I was in that moment and Pete had said that joke to me. I don't think I could just be like, ah! Like, you know, I think I'd be like, yo, that was terrible. To the point where you shamed him out of making those jokes ever again. And then you, I would laugh at how bad the joke is. You know what I mean?

Like, when I think, like, I don't know. It's so hard. I picture a lot of eye rolling from you if he was like making those jokes. And then it's like, damn. Yeah, because I don't know. Like Hank, I think is actually funny. You know what I mean? Like, if Hank was making these jokes, I'd be like, come on, buddy.

Let's come up with, you know, they're just so constant. I wonder if that's his real sense of humor. That's what I'm wondering if he just. I don't think it is. Like going to G-rated sense of humor because we're on The Bachelor. Although nothing else is G-rated, I'll say that. Yeah, no, I have more faith in Pete in terms of if he's funny or not. I think he is.

I think maybe they feed him some of these lines or he thinks... Oh my God, they're feeding him. Maybe. Like just to make him sort of seem like an affable, like nice guy. Now listen, I'm not trying to take away from Pete because I'm seeing a lot of back and forth on whether people hate Pete or they like Pete. I had a lot of girls yelling in my DMs about because we interviewed Pete. And he's a great guy.

And a lot of these girls were like yelling in my DMs. And by yelling, I mean capital letters saying like, I hate Pete. he's the worst, he's doing a terrible job. And like you said about his scar, kind of sums up the season. The girls are whack. Like these girls suck. Like we have to cut Peter some slack.

Cannot blame Peter. Why don't you grab any guy off the street and have them deal with these 30 psychos and see how they react? Like this is not all of Pete's fault. And a lot of it, people are forgetting. The producers are telling him, they're like, he's making so many mistakes.

You think Peter was walking around, with a rose in his back pocket for no reason. Somebody gave him these things. So I'm like, let's stop really digging in on Peter, as I say he's not funny. That's besides the point. I'm saying like his actual like actions on the show. And he brought up a good point in the interview I thought about how he doesn't see everything. It's very easy for us to watch the show and see everything happen.

We watch the girls when they're not with Pete. We watch the girls when they're with Pete. And he only sees the conversations. that he has with the girls. So we have all this other knowledge that Pete in the moment doesn't have. I agree that he's made some bad decisions. Yes, 100%. And he knows that too.

Yeah. He does. He said, I made some mistakes throughout the process. And that's true. But he doesn't see everything that we get to see. And I think some people are basing their opinion of Pete on the stuff that he doesn't necessarily get to see. Right. How does he know that this is going on?

He doesn't. Now he does. But he did not when that was happening. So I think, yes, he has made some terror. The Alleyah thing was a disaster. It was so bad. Great for TV, though. So let's be happy he's giving us this wonderful TV

and realize he's dealing with absolute psychos. They're the craziest bunch of girls I've seen on this show. Sweet, sweet, sweet, innocent Pete. It's just trying to find the woman that he loves and he's dealing with like the caddiest cast that they have ever

put together. So I definitely agree that it's that I don't think people should necessarily be blaming Pete. Yeah, he can make poor decisions, but like any Bachelor or Bachelorette is going to make some poor decision at one point during the show. But I don't know.

So yeah, guys, he was on this one-on-one date with Sydney. They are at a picnic. He keeps saying that he finds her like very mysterious and that he can't like really read her but that there's such like a connection with her. and this was another one of those lines where he was like

so as long as you're cool with scars but the way it came out was like chick stig scars you know like so as long as you're cool with scars and Sydney was like I'm cool of them

I've got them all over me I was like what? Did we find out what she meant by that? No they got dark Did she be emotional or literally? I don't know We don't know

it's an interesting response In my head I was like oh she had surgery You know, like, I'm very, I don't know. I don't know because it was, like, I thought it was insane to not have a follow-up question. Yeah, no. Like how follow-up questions? Zero.

Yeah, like, Pete. I wonder if Pete had asked, like, what do you mean? And she meant like emotionally and they were like, all right, cut that. Yeah. Because I think if she did have literal. If she had literal scars on her body, like, I think they'd keep that in. Like, what happened? She got bit by a dog and then this happened and that happened.

That's like ripe for some sort of. dramatic reenactment if she had, yeah, like that happens. She has scars all over her body. She must have meant emotionally because they really just blazed right past it. All over me is is descriptive. Like I have a few scars and I would have been like, oh, I've got a couple, you know? Yeah. Like I fell when I was a kid.

I got a big one on my knee. Like we would have, we would have seen her body of scars if these were literal scars, I think. It was interesting. Yeah, maybe. Maybe. Maybe. I would think so. I don't know.

I'm now assuming. Hopefully you're not offending Sydney. I don't want to offend Sydney. No, but Where are the scars? I'm not going to lie, I'm scared of a lot of these women. Like a lot of these women I would not want to get into a fight with. I mean, I'm sure we'll get to it, but I am terrified of taking.

Yeah, I really. So they go to their dinner date. Sydney was talking a lot about how, you know, she grew up in Alabama and she, you know, was from a mixed family and she, her parents divorced when she was really young. So she doesn't have a relationship with her dad at all. She was raised by her mom. And that she was bullied for being a mixed race. race that people would say horrible things to her and horrible things to her mom.

You know, she wasn't at, she wasn't at school dances. She would eat lunch in the bathroom. You know, the full, the full sob story. Yeah. The full thing. Yep. And Peter really felt, like Peter really felt for her. She got the, she got the Rose.

She said, he said that she was somebody that he could see spending his life with. And then they just, you know, take off. clothes because of course they have bathing suits on underneath and they make out heavy heavy make out to the point where like there might have been something else going on there was some i saw under that water fall i saw people on twitter being like i think this is the moment where they're going to have sex it was in front of all of us it was an intro to a nice porno for sure yeah like it was it was the way it was set up i was like this could lead to anything right and and and we know from the season's preview that of he was of him being like i was intimate with somebody so i feel

like everybody is just waiting for that point. And it was a definitely heavy, heavy groping of what was what was going on. Who knows what's going on under that water? Cindy got like the full black like Photoshop situation on her on her bathing suit. But I want to mention this because I feel like it was what everybody was talking about on Twitter. A girl that went to high school with Sydney posted a video of their yearbook. and Tuscaloosa County High or something like,

I think that's where they went. And that Hannah B., Hannah Brown and Sydney went to the same high school together. And then she was posting pictures of Sydney and, you know, the full pageant outfit and at school dances and voted this and voted that. Yeah. So I saw this. I quoted it and I wrote, damn, that's all I have to say, damn. because that really is all I had to say in that moment because I was trying to register what this really means.

Because on one hand, we have Sydney crying saying she got bullied in school and she ate lunch in the bathroom, which I don't want to say that she definitely did not because even if you were like popular, so to speak, and a beauty pageant queen, like girls are really mean and they probably were mean to Sydney. If she's a beauty pageant queen and she's like winning most beautiful in the yearbook, like of course people are going to be mean to her.

Like that's just high school. Like people are really mean. And the eight lunch and the bathroom thing, Kelly Kiggs was like going off on Twitter that this never happens to people. Never, ever, ever happens. My two of my best friends, our senior year of high school, we got like assigned, you got assigned a period de lunch. And they got assigned a period where like they, like they didn't know anybody whatsoever. I don't know what happened, but they just got this. Nobody was in their lunch period.

and the two of them literally ate lunch in the bathroom, like their first day. But it wasn't like they weren't like, they didn't like get bullied or anything. Like sometimes like that just literally happens. I think that sounds nice. Like when you go like when I worked a regular job, I would go like eat lunch in my car. And you're just sitting there. It's kind of nice. Sometimes it's nice to be alone when you eat lunch.

I realized that when I got to college and I would eat lunch alone. I'd be like, this isn't weird. Yeah. No, I think it's great. I think it's really nice. Well, anyway, she was talking about it in a way that she got, like, bullied to the point that she had to be in there. So I don't want to, I don't want to automatically discredit her and say that she wasn't, like, people weren't mean to her because I'm sure they were. I totally believe that is just, like, when you tell, like, the one side of the story where it makes you seem like you were kind of like an outcast who had no friends.

Like, I, it would be different if she was like, yeah, I did, like, beauty. but I know it's weird though to like be like hey did beauty pageants and people were mean to me because then all of a sudden people are like wow you did beauty pageants like when I was in- I don't even know if it was a beauty pageant or like not beauty pageant yeah they're high school but like even if you explain that story like people automatically oh you were doing something called most beautiful like yeah upper class I can't even talk about when I was in high school on my cheerleading team like I quote unquote I guess you would call it got bullied because they found videos of me doing fact fashion shows when I was a child model. That sounds ridiculous. So I can't eat like, I don't talk about that because you just laughed. Like that sounds crazy, but people were mean. You know what I mean?

Right. People, people can be mean to anybody. Like it doesn't matter. It could be a cool thing and people are like mean to you about it. Yeah. I don't think those pictures that everybody are like definitive proof that like she's a liar, like let's not believe her story. Right.

That's what it feels like. Yeah. I agree with you on that. But there is something missing from her story. Totally. And I think I think it's easy. to latch on to it because people don't necessarily like Sydney and the way she has been on the show. And I don't really like the way that Sydney talks to a lot of the other girls. I personally

think that like she has created kind of like this mean girl group sort of that is like her friends. And then they like talk down to these other girls. Like I just like we'll get to it when she was talking to Tammy. But it was obviously it's crazy to see. And it's sort of. just it's just it's just entertaining like not not her not her story i'm saying like it's entertaining seeing that she went to the same high school as hannah brown oh that's the most interesting to me you know it's just like how does this happen and nobody realizes or nobody talks about it's just like we're casting the same exact people from the same areas um so it's and people people want to hear everything there is to know about about them right for sure even

just retweeting this, there are so many just people on Twitter being like, yeah, Hannah, Hannah was the most popular. No, Sydney was the most popular and Hannah and Sydney didn't get a lot. Like totally made up shit. Like nobody knows what they're talking about. But we've reached that level where everyone's dug so deep.

Like, I actually today Googled this high school to see how big like the school was. Because I was like how big is the school? Like was it small enough? Was it small enough? Or like, like everybody was friends and everybody kind of knew everyone or was it big enough or like you could

totally not be friends with somebody. Is it a big school? The results of my Google search. Yeah, it's pretty big. Like, you know, it seems like they have between like three, four hundred kids a grade almost, which is pretty big. That's like my high school. Yeah, like you definitely don't know everyone.

No, no, no. So that felt like that was an interesting part. Or like you know everyone. You know. You're aware of them, but you could never have even spoken to them one of time. Correct. I think that's right. Correct.

Okay. So after obviously Sydney got her rose, their heavy makeout, it cut to Kelsey and Tammy talking, and it was at night. Kelsey had what seems like a lot to drink, had her wine glass next to her. She was crying. She said she would never be okay with Peter dating other people, that seeing Sydney go on this date was just making her really emotional. Tammy was just kind of saying like this is what I signed up this is what you signed up for. And then Kelsey had one of the most hilarious lot like drunk lines this show was ever seen where Tammy was like, oh, do you not like Sydney? And Kelsey goes,

no, I do. I do like Sydney a lot. I think she's cool. But she's a dramatic fucking bitch. Whoa. Okay. That makes me like. Are you like what? I'm not. I'm. I'm so scared of girls. Like that in that way where they'll like on the one side, they'd be like, yeah, I like, I like, I like her a lot. We're friends. And then be like, but she's a fucking bitch. It's like, what? Like, guys don't have that.

Guys don't have that where like, they just be like, that guy sucks and I hate that guy. There would be no part where it's sort of saying, oh, no, I do like her, but I actually hate her. That's, that's scary. That chills me to my core. Like, don't, don't fake the nicest. Like she fit. Like, it seems like she, anytime you preface, like, no, I like her. but like whatever comes after the butt is how you actually feel.

And it wasn't like, but she does a couple things that I don't like. She's a dramatic fucking bitch. That's serious. It was definitely pretty aggressive. And Tammy is just big time sick of Kelsey's bullshit. She's over the crying. She said, you know, Kelsey cried for four days over a champagne bottle. She's like, I don't think I cried that long.

My grandpa died. Like she. Tammy's a tough bit. Yeah. Tammy is hard. I didn't cry that long. Tammy's hard is Dad, like imagine her grandpa right now

rolling over and his... Don't use me for Bachelor father? And not in a good way. Like, I didn't even cry that long for my grandpa. Fuck him. Like, are you kidding me? It just seems like Kelsey and Tammy

are on two absolute opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to like showing emotion and being emotional. And they are obviously going to clash big time. The Cosmo group date, which was one of my favorite group dates in a while.

It was basically, America's next stop model. Like, Ria, you tweeted it. It was straight up. And even like the format of after like taking the pictures and then immediately showing the finished picture, I was like, this is America's Next Top Model. And the time crunch, like everybody grab your suits. Yeah, we're on a time crunch.

That was always an America's Next Time Model thing. Like as fast as you can grab your outfit and put it on and get ready, love those challenges. I love that, uh, yeah. I love that these group dates are now really focusing on the future of these women who, who are on their show. Like we're getting revolved. Yes.

Revolve fashion shows, Cosmo photo shoots. Like just the Bachelor is really leaning into being influencer 101. Just like how to be an influencer. Go on the Bachelor. Like this is like how it's happening. It's a smart business move. They're looking out for their future because they're going to have people at home

who want to go on the show, be like, look, if we do this, then we can go here. I think it's a genius move by them. So the group date was Cheyenne, Kelsey, Victoria F. Madison, Natasha, Victoria P., see Hannah and Tammy McKenna. All those names show that there are still so many freaking women on this show.

There's still so many ladies left. They all are competing for a cover with Peter that they'll shoot with Peter. So the girls are posing together. They're posing with Peter. And then things got kind of frisky when Victoria F kissed Peter while she was posing

in a photo with Kelsey and Victoria P and that Hannah and kissed Peter while posing with McKenna and Tammy, which was a very, very funny picture of just Tammy in the front being like, like, help, like what? They're making out and this, what am I,

what am I supposed to do? It's got to be uncomfortable. I respect the move, though. I know. What are we supposed to do? Hate on the fact that Victoria F and Hannah Ann kissed Peter. You have to win somehow.

Victoria F, didn't she do the same thing? Remember when she cried about having no confidence? And then she kissed Peter while she was walking the runway. She just always comes through these moments and just starts making out with Peter. I don't want to defend Victoria F because I don't really like her. But I will say with the whole confidence thing, like, it could be a projection of the fact that she does have low self-esteem. So she's doing, you know, she probably- You're going to completely other end. Yeah, like she's just doing things that she thinks she has to do to get that kind of attention and confidence. You know what I mean?

Could be. In return, because she does have low self-esteem. I don't know. I'm just trying to figure out what's going on in this girl's brain because she's saying one thing, she's doing another thing, and that's really how I could explain it, like, I guess. And it kind of works. Because if she's saying she has all this low confidence,

nobody would, you would assume nobody would low confidence would do these type of things, which is why I think she's doing outlandish things to mask her low-self-same. I think there's some validity to that for sure. She's just going the completely other way. I think she also just knows what she's doing.

Okay. Like I, I, I, I, that's kind of my opinion on her. I just think she's, she knows how to work a guy, you know? Like, I think she's just, she, she's smart. And she wins the group date. Like, they gave her the cover. They did the full shoot and everything. Now, Cosmo posted, um, a letter from the editor last night while this was going on.

Uh, Jessica, who, um, Jessica Pals, who was part of the date. wrote this. It was posted last night right after the date aired, and it was why we're not publishing the Cosmo Bachelor cover. She said, as you probably know, the details about upcoming plot points on The Bachelor are as closely guarded as nuclear codes. When my team and I flew down to Costa Rica, we weren't told who our models were going to be. We didn't get to meet them, the whole thing. Then she wrote, it wasn't until a few weeks ago that I found out the woman I chosen had in her past modeled in an ad campaign wearing White Lives Matter attire. Now, it had, we've seen the pictures.

It was reported that she was modeling for a Marlin Lives Matter organization that was focused on preventing white and blue Marlin from being overfished. But they used white lives matter like use like it was a like they're using a Confederate flag. Yeah, it's not great. They're pulling from the White Lives Matter message. I don't mean to laugh, but it's like. It's definitely not good. It's not good.

But it's like, boy, did we get mixed up in something here that we didn't. didn't mean to. Right. Exactly. Victoria F is not the unproblematic queen we're looking for this season. She's just not. Like she just has too many skeletons in her closet at this point in time. Chase Rice.

These pictures, the rumors about all these guys and these relationships that she's fucked up. Pete, let's move on. Yeah. It's a problem. She sure shit isn't getting on the cover of Cosmo. No, no, no. No. I mean, now that Cosmo has basically written her on.

off. Think about all the other brands. Yeah. Like this, nope. We're not working with that. Exactly. She had finished by saying, you know, in my view, the nature of the organization is neither here nor there. Both phrases in the belief systems they represented are rooted in racism and therefore problematic. So she said that their team had a long discussions about it, how they wanted to address it. She said they already printed the fashion shoot in their March issue, complete with an inset of the cover. And of course, the episode's already

been filmed. But ultimately, what felt right was choosing not to publish the digital cover on our website or social feed. and simply being honest with you, the audience who respect, about what happened and where we stand. So you're not going to be seeing that cover of her and Peter online anywhere, but she did win that, she did win that date. They're all hanging out after.

Finally, he's getting time with Hannah Ann. She was, she was just, you know, I'm just grateful to be here in her little voice. She just wants to give 100%. She's talking about being on group date after group date. That worked because she got the group day rows. I don't mean to go backwards. Let's talk a little bit about the way they try to cover the butts during the group date.

That was like, so they're all in these bikinis. And Victoria F, I think it was Victoria F, who was in a red bikini. Yep. And they like tried to just add in like a red strip to cover another cheek. Because in the past they've just done the black box, which is fine. It's like, oh, they're showing a little too much or that they can't show on ABC. fine. This time they tried to get a little cute with it. I guess it was because it was like a bathing suit photo shoot that they were like,

well, we're going to show the bathing suit, but like let's add a little bit to the rear. I just don't get it. Like we saw Shakira and Jalo's cheeks flying all over the place at the Super Bowl, but the bachelor, like we see a little butt cheek and it's a problem. And we're talking about popping pills and alcoholics. Yeah, we're talking about Adderall. We can't show a little butt cheeks. Like what's going on?

It seems like a strange place to draw the line. Definitely. it definitely does. So then Kelsey tells Peter that she's falling in love with him, which, okay. There's some desperation there. Okay. And then things start to get more dramatic between Tammy and Kelsey. Tammy tells the other girls that Kelsey was having a, quote, mental breakdown.

That's how she described it, drinking her sorrows away. Tammy tells Peter that Kelsey had a mental breakdown that she was crying her eyes out, drinking excessively. So then Peter goes, immediately pulls Kelsey. Doesn't actually say it was Tammy who said it, which I was surprised. You know, he likes throwing names around, but he didn't say it was Tammy. He just said that somebody voiced their concern that she had a mental breakdown.

And so obviously that bothered Kelsey and she went back to the girls and was like, we want to talk about who said I was emotionally unstable today. That is a little bit inconsistent from Pete. He wouldn't usually, at least the only other time, he walked into the whole group and was like, this person has been saying this about this person. Let's figure it out. Maybe he learned his lesson on that one. Maybe.

Maybe he's scared of Tammy. That too. I get that. It ended up being like all the girls kind of together voicing their concerns to Kelsey. Except Tammy. Except Tammy. Until the end. She did like kind of say something towards the end.

But it was just the same thing. Like Tammy just said that she's like, I don't need to drink and cry to express her emotions. Because Kelsey was just kind of going on about how this is like that's how she expresses herself. when she gets sad, she cries. And she doesn't care about crying in front of other people. Pete gives the group date rose to Hannah Ann. And then we had the one-on-one with Kelly. Kelly just are indifferent lady.

Like she doesn't care. She is just like, you know what? This is something new and fun. I love doing fun stuff. We'll see what happens. Pete is trying to drag any sort of like anything out of her where she'll be like, I'm so happy to be here.

I'm so happy to be with you. I think this is going to be the future for us. She's just sort of like, yeah, I can see myself potentially getting involved in something maybe. It cracked me up because it was so clear that during this, you know, shaman date that they were like pulling from energy and this, that normally, like they take that so seriously. Like the people who are on the date take that so seriously. And you could just tell that Kelly was in her head was like, this is bullshit.

And the candles were talking shit about her. Yeah, they were. They were. They were. They were. They were. She's not on the same level as Pete, which all these things are true. I'm sure somebody got in the shaman's ear and was like, you got to say these things about Kelly so she can know all that.

They're on different stages of their lives. The pendulum said. But Kelly's like, God damn, I hate these candles. Don't knock the pendulum. Okay. Oh, really? Don't knock the pendulum. I don't know.

I'm scared. My mom and my sister are like super into this kind of stuff lately. I don't know if it's really the exact same, but like different kind of crystals and rocks and pendulums and meditation and like all of this stuff. And I recently went home and my sister had one of these pendulum things on a little, it was almost like a Ouija board. Like you just literally hold up this thing and there's like a little mat, I would say, or a little blanket, a little cloth.

This thing was so tiny. It just says yes, no, like ask again, maybe. and then whatever. And I was asking it questions and you just hold it so still and the pendulum swings in a direction. And I'm not because

this was the date. Yeah. Well, this was the exact thing. There was more, you know. Costa Rica long island. That's the same thing. There's was way more extreme, obviously. I'm talking like a little dainty thing.

But the questions I was asking, like it freaked me out. Like it was like knowing the answers. You know what I mean? Oh yeah. And I wasn't like I tried to, I would ask the same question over and over and over again. It would give me the same answer over and over and over again.

And I was like testing out like, this shit is crazy. Get this away from me. It's dangerous for me to have because now, thank God I don't live at home. I'd be going to that thing for everything. Like I only make decisions if I talk to the bedroom. What I will say. It was just clear that Kelly didn't buy it. Right.

She was like whether it's true or it's not, these candles are like trying to expose me wanting to just be on vacation in Costa Rica. Right. And she didn't appreciate that one bit. No, and so, you know, they go to their dinner, and Peter has been going on and on about how he doesn't think that Kelly is at the same, in the same headspace as him,

that she, that they had such a strong relationship, but now that it's kind of just plateaued. And it was weird because he, it felt like he was almost trying to make her feel bad for like where she was in the process, that she wasn't far long enough. But she's just like really, a normal person with realistic goals

and was like, if we get engaged, I could see it, but right now I can't because we're clearly not there. I know people on Twitter were really giving her shit for saying like a billion times,

which sometimes happens. I feel for her on that one. People were really criticizing her for the amount of times she's like, but... It's just a classic case of when you're in the Bachelor universe, the things that should be normal

become, you become an outcast. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I kind of would prefer to take it slow if you're asking me if I would be into an engaging right now. The answer is no. And so all of a sudden it's like, well, what's going on here? So she did get the rose, although I did not think right up until the last moment. I thought she was going home.

I thought she was going home. But if history can tell us anything, someone with this type of attitude and outlook on the show won't be around for very long because at one point, Pete will ask her if we were to get engaged, could it happen? And she's going to say probably not. And she's going to go home. Right. And I loved when she, when he was like getting her to explain how she was feeling and that she had felt like she wasn't getting, like, all the opportunities to progress

relationship with him and that she kind of started to question if he was ready for a wife. And she was like, well, why? He was like, well, why do you think that? And he was like, well, you know, you're just kind of rewarding all the drama. And I was like, yes, Kelly, yes. What a great thing to say. It was exactly, it was exactly like the perfect response. She was so right. And yeah, I really did think she was going to go home too. She did not. She got a rose.

And then we got another hot tub pool waterfall makeout. Looked like a nice time. That does look like a nice time. The post date Costa Rica makeouts that Pete's getting are steamy. I really felt like Cleveland was catching ricochet shots the whole episode because the Costa Rica just looks so nice. Right. It was showing the waterfalls and the jungle and all the greenery.

It just felt like they really sort of, it was mean to Cleveland. show all those shots. Right. Okay. So then, you know, Kelsey and Tammy are still fighting. They go and talk again that, and they're not going to see eye to eye. They just keep going back and forth. Tammy just keeps calling her like a drunk. Like it's just never ending. Kelsey was like, I was tipsy. I'm not going to lie, but I wasn't wasted. I feel you. I feel you. Yeah. We've all been there. Yeah. I was like, I was tipsy. I had a few drinks. What of it? Probably wasted. Probably was wasted. Probably was wasted. Who cares? Like they're in this house.

She's like it was one time. It was one time. What do you do in this mansion? I'm okay with Tammy like sort of planting the seed and Pete's mind being like, boy, Kelsey might be a little unstable. But then when it really like push came to shove, she was like, you're a fucking alcoholic. You're popping pills. It's like what is happening?

It's like, hey, man. We've all got our issues. One night you get a little wine drunk. You start to cry. It happens to the best of us. It doesn't seem like it's happening all the time. but this this causes mayhem because Kelsey goes to talk to Peter alone. Sneaks off obviously people, you know, who want to give Kelsey shit.

I'm sure she had to ask a producer who carried her away to wherever Pete was saying. There's no rules. No rules. And Kelsey explains herself that she was apologized to the other girls. And then she says that Tammy's telling everyone that she has a drinking problem on popping pills. And then Pete gives her rose just. Out of the blue. He just picked it up out of his pocket.

He used that rose that he took back from Alea that he had in his dresser's drawer. He's like going through his bedside. He's like, oh, where's that rose I took back from Alley? Let me just go into Kelsey real quick. That's what I'm talking about. Like, Pete did not just have that rose because he was like, I'm going to give this to Kelsey. The producers were like, hold on to this Pete and you can give it at any time you want. And he was just like, oh, like, I have this rose.

Or even they stopped the cameras and they said, Pete, come here. You want to give. Yeah. And even the producer, like, you know they have roses in their back pocket. So if he even went up to a producer was like, I want to give Kelsey a rose, you got one. And they're just like, whoop, here you go. Like they have it ready to go.

Even that decision, whichever way it happened, for him to eventually get a rose and be like, I'm going to give this to Kelsey and basically send her back to the slaughterhouse with all the other girls who are getting mad. That's like a lack of foresight, I would say. It seemed like he did not realize what was going on. We did ask him about that. And yes, she, poor Kelsey went back and it was insanely uncomfortable. Just absolute daggers. All the girls were sitting out front.

These girls wanted to chop. Like, they wanted to rip that rose out of her hand and rip it into a million. Even Kelsey was super nervous about like, hey, so I got this rose. Yeah, she was like, I didn't know he was going to give it to me. I didn't know. Nobody said a word. When did Tammy say I'm going to set this building on fire? Did we miss that part?

I forgot to mention that. That was all the way at the first row ceremony where she said if she didn't get a row she was going to set the building on. Now it's coming back to me. That was really frightening. That was really fucking frightening.

It was really a foreshadowing for what was going to come with Tammy in the episode. I'm going to set this building on fire. Oh. Just go home. You want to be here. A lot of extremes. Yeah, a lot of extremes.

A lot of extremes. So Pete cancels the cocktail party because he feels really, really confident is what he said. Yep. And so he cancels the cocktail party. The girls lose their shit. They blame Kelsey.

Everybody's screaming at each other. McKenna is sobbing. She's crying that she didn't get time. Lexi's backing up. Lexi says that Tammy told her and Victoria F about Kelsey popping pills. Lexi was like, nope, you said it. I heard you. And Tammy was trying to deny that.

They're all fighting. Kelsey is just like, I take Adderall on birth control. Thank you very much. A plus. You really need to know it's in my medicine cabinet. Fantastic moment in Bachelor history. And then the other girls being like,

did she just say that bitch? Don't act surprised that people are out here taking Adderall and birth control. Those are the two most common things. That's like a baseline. That's like anything else, either direction, crazy. But like birth control and Adderall, go crazy. To me, that's a normal person.

It was crazy. And Tammy started fighting with Sydney. And they're all arguing about not talking about each other to Peter and Tammy brought up Sydney talking to Pete about Alea and Sydney like loses it she was like I'm gonna lose my shit on you like he brought up

to me I never brought it up to him you definitely did she definitely did and she like this is the catty stuff that was really getting under my skin like when she then goes to talk to Victoria Pee and she's like oh Tammy me me me me like Tammy like saying just

being like a little girl's like you gotta be gotta rise above Tammy's calling her diva princess and she's like The whole thing was just You're crazy You're crazy Tammy I'm like oh my god Is that where you were saying like that's mean girl stuff?

Yeah when Cynnie was like You're Tammy you're crazy You're like and the girls are all laughing That's super patronizing Lexi's next to her laughing like Tammy Calm down like I was like oh god I feel for Tammy that that was tough That was tough

They all really just Are not getting along right now They go into the rose ceremony and Tammy steals him before he can even give the first rose. And she tries to clear her name. And then McKenna jumps in because she, you know who's having an emotional breakdown? McKenna.

Big time. Like McKenna is struggling. She's crying again to Pete about how the drama has broken her. Like that's, she's having a tough, tough time. I think the other part where people have a problem with Pete is situations like this where he gets railroaded. And he doesn't do it.

anything about it where he's like, I'm canceling the cocktail party. You guys are not going to have an opportunity to talk to me. My mind is made up. He starts the road ceremony and they're like, excuse me, stops it and then basically have an impromptu cocktail party. He needs to be like a little more assertive in the things that he wants to do. Definitely. So the girls are pissed.

Like Lexi was super mad that they took time because that puts her in jeopardy. And basically that was what I feel like maybe whatever Tammy said or if he changed his mind or whatever happened, he did give Tammy. the last rose along with both Victoria's, Madison, Natasha, and McKenna, and the other girls all had roses already. So Sheean and Lexi both went home. So we lost five girls on Monday night. And Sheehan, of course, leaves saying, like, watch out for some of these girls.

We're not showing you themselves. Of course. Which Pete's like, oh, shit. I know. I just, that's my favorite thing. Just the Hail Mary as you walk out to be like, these girls aren't who you think they are. Goodbye. Perfect.

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Wednesday night, these ladies, we have left Costa Rica officially. We are on our way to Santiago, Chile. And the drama is, they want to calm the drama down. It seems like Tammy, she wants to move past the drama, but they're all still mad at McKenna kind of stealing that moment, Tammy's stealing that moment. at the cocktail party before, not even at the cocktail party. At the road ceremony, a fake cocktail party when it really was just two seconds. Victoria F told McKenna that the move was unacceptable.

They're mocking McKenna for being emotional. Honestly, I don't know where Victoria F gets off on like mocking McKenna for being emotional when Victoria F has cried on every date. Yeah, I've said this before, but these girls are the meanest I've ever seen on The Bachelor and some of the caddiest I've ever seen in my life. they're just like every time they're on camera they're making fun of or talking shit about one of the other girls

I feel like we saw a lot more friendships in the past They're really seeing any friendships developing on this season Which I guess the show isn't really about friendships I mean you're there for Peter I get it but also like Let's be a little nice to some people

Yeah like girls in season past And seasons past have talked about like making some of their best friends on the show That's probably why they are going crazy because they're not making friends. And if they made friends, they probably would feel a little more comfortable, but they're lashing out.

They're lashing out. Right. It's a war zone. I said this before. It's the mean girls when it turns into the jungle. That's what's happening on this show. Totally.

Peter takes Hannah Ann on their 101. It's her first 101. Peter's talking about how she's just super goofy. They're having a good time. They're laughing. A very funny Chilean lady in Spanish was like, you look really young. I think the,

obviously they had that moment because there's been a there was a big emphasis on this date about him and being ready for marriage is she ready for this moment because she tells Pete that she has felt love but has never been in love before and that made Peter really question what she I don't really know what that means I it's sort of like a way to say I've never been in love but I know what it is right I don't know if that really makes sense but yeah that would that would cause the red flag go up in my mind if I'm feeling felt love is like, you know, you love your parents and your siblings, but you know, is that what she meant? Like not, well, I feel like, she's had boyfriends in the past. I've seen pictures. Yeah.

Like, oh, I love you. But she said they weren't in love. She said she was like, I can't, we care for each other deeply, but I wasn't in love. I thought she meant she was like on the verge of falling in love with them and that's how she felt love. Do you think that she said this thinking, I don't know, do you think she said this thinking Peter wants to hear that she hasn't really been in love before? like maybe she kind of was like I want you to be the first. Yeah, yeah, no, like thinking he might get mad. You know what I mean?

She's a love virgin. No, not to be like, I'm, no, in your mind. Like, might hurt his feelings kind of. Like this is kind of awkward, but although like he wants to hear you've been in love so he knows you're capable of emotions. That's what it has to be. I can't, if I'm Peter and I'm hearing that a girl that I'm potentially going to marry and date and all that has never been in love before, that makes me nervous. Like that would make me, I would want someone who's made. be like at least kind of knows what it's like what it feels like as opposed to me being the

first person that she falls in love with that feels like a little bit a little bit too much for me right and then and then she couldn't be like no i was just saying that because i didn't want to hurt you because then she sounds stupid if that was the case i don't know maybe she really just i guess hasn't been in love before could be she said i don't know she is very young yeah she is it i think like i think if she did she talked about this three and a half year relationship she had with somebody from her hometown. I think if that was the one really serious relationship that she had, she would be comfortable saying I was in love with him.

It was one guy. Peter has been pretty open about being in love before and having past relationships. So I feel like she could have said it if she felt it. But the whole date was kind of uncomfortable just in that structure of like them at dinner. And Peter being like, what do you want your goals? what are your goals in life? And she was just kind of like, yeah, I mean, I'm 23. I'm going to try and model for as long as I can.

And then we'll see what happens. That's the answer. That's a 24-year-old answer. Right. I think maybe it's not going to, it's not what Pete wants to hear potentially. But that's a real answer. Yeah. That's truth.

Exactly. That's not her truth. That's actual truth. And then Peter actually ended up getting up himself from the table. Like I guess he seemed kind of fed up with the, with the way. the date was going. He needed a moment to himself. It was clear he was kind of seeing that Hannah Ann was maybe putting on a little bit of an act,

that she felt like she needed to be perfect in front of him and that there couldn't be, you know, any edges or anything. But Hannah Ann comes out to him. She's crying. And really, the tears, that's all that it took. If you want a rose, cry. It was kind of, it was kind of bizarre for me that Pete was like, like, okay. Yeah.

You won. You cried. Oh, you cried. You have emotions. Here's a rose. Like, oh, you want a cookie? Oh, you want a rose? I feel like I misremembered.

Let me see those tears. It was like I misremembered him leaving the table first. Like that he's clear. He laughed first. Right. That's why I was like, there's no way she's going to get a rose. And then she comes out, starts to cry. And he's like, boom, magic trick.

There it is. Peter's doing a lot of leaving. Leaving the table, leaving the scene. Yeah. It's worrisome. I just. He doesn't know kind of what he's doing. I don't.

I had somebody tweet back at me that Peter's love language is tears, and I feel like that really checks out. Like, anytime a girl cries to him, he takes that as, wow, she really cares. She's crying about me. She really cares. When it's usually tears of confusion from these girls. Yeah, it feels like it. But Hannah-Anj, you know, nobody wants to get married on this show. She wore a white dress to dinner.

None of these girls want to get married. Dinner dress. I might send it to my sister for her. It was a very pretty dress. I do remember coming out of me like, I like that dress. Yeah, you know, we're at that point in the season where you're like, I don't think any of these girls are ready to get married. They're just very young.

They are, they are. A live stretch. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. It's been a long day. It's been a long week. Okay, so we get two day cards. I'm not kidding. No, go ahead.

Go ahead. Keep going. I'll continue. We get two day cards. Everyone, but Victoria F is on that. group dates. So obviously Victoria F. is getting a one-on-one. The girls are pissed.

Yeah. Girls are pissed because Victoria F. has already gotten a one-on-one, and there are girls left who haven't gotten a one-on-one yet. McKenna and Natasha. So, you know, they were very upset. McKenna had a little bit of a, you know, a moment where

she was crying and she felt like maybe she needed to leave, that this was pointless. She wanted to give up. I think that's fair. I don't know why, like, you give people giving McKenna's shit for crying or being emotional or whatever. If you're in that position and you haven't gotten a group day yet, another girl is already on her second. Right. I would be like, why the fuck am I still here?

Yeah, it's like I'm clearly very, very behind and he's not even thinking about giving me a one-on-one rose. I'm back. You're back. Good stretch? Yeah, I was good. Okay. I think that the producers are truthfully just fucking with McKenna. They have no intentions of letting this girl seek out.

an actual relationship with Peter. I think that that's kind of predetermined on the show from what I'm gathering is that certain girls, they will have like a real connection with Peter because they're kind of like being allowed to have that connection. Right. There are some girls on the show that no matter what, they will be stopped at all costs

from having any sort of relationship with the Bachelor of Bachelor of Bachelor. I feel like they do that on purpose to have these type of like meltdown moments. And you get... It makes sense. It's TV. they're trying to produce a show. They can't have everybody get in the same amount of time with Peter. And McKenna is so great at that role because her facial expressions, at every row ceremony,

she looks like she's having a breakdown. She's very good at playing the role of someone who's like, why the fuck am I still here? Well, they see it as she reacted to it probably the first time. So they were like, let's keep doing it. It's like when people fuck with me in the office, they know I get easily worked up and I'll fall for it. And if you fall for it, if we're going to keep doing it. They're going to be like, look at that.

Let's keep doing that. Yes, yes. It feels kind of good. It's good TV. Yes. Okay, so the group date, which honestly I liked, I thought it was very entertaining. The girls and Peter were all cast in a telenovela. So, you know, soap opera, full drama.

A telenovela. A telenovela, which, you know, I am well versed in because I watched all of Jane the Virgin. And, uh, not that was. a telenovela? Jane the Virgin isn't even a telenovela. It's a, it's a... Wait, like, are these like soap operas? Yes, it's Spanish soap operas.

Gotcha. So, um, everybody gets apart. McKenna, of course, is playing the maid, and she's, like, distraught about playing the maid. She just has to be in the background of every, of every moment. Um, Kelly was playing his grandma, which was very funny. She had some good one-liners. She said, you know, tonight incest is best.

just that it is you cringe you cringe but you laugh I definitely laughed it's one of those things where you don't want to just have that cut separately from everything else she was saying you know like when she was like in these circumstances incest is best but people will just cut it to incest is best right like they're going to do to me right now right because i'm saying yeah her friends are going to send her that video right and you just have to joke about that because like of all the roles you get you're playing Pete's grandma like you got you know there's nothing really romantic about that. True.

So, you know, everybody's making out with Peter while McKenna is just like sweeping in the background. But in the end, it's really McKenna that wins the maid. He's like, it was you all along, you know, pisses the maid. Chris Harrison comes out in a mustache, which was fantastic. A plus. He's a great actor. He came out with the mustache on.

He looked great. Every time Chris Harrison gets involved in like a bit, I'm all in. Oh, yeah. I mean, just coming out on that mustache was fantastic. Can you, Ria, can you do your Chris Harrison? No, Pete's impression when Chris Harrison walked out? Papa. So good. You could have done it.

Papa. Papa. Papa. Fantastic. Just great acting from the squad. Tammy is on one. She's been on one for a couple weeks now. I like Tammy a lot from the start.

really have just taken a turn for the worst. She said that she would stab anyone who was in her way. So we're really getting to a bizarre level here. Tammy first said on night one that she would light the damn house on fire. And then night two said she will stab anybody in her way. Now, I don't know, but she sounds like a psychopath. I think we have to be cautious of Tammy when we said that she would like beat the shit out of Trent. She would.

Yes. You know. It all happens. If you were taking away her luggage, oh, God damn. Trust me, I thought about it. I was like, now I don't pull it. Like, pull the footage. I don't want like that out there.

It all happened so fast with Tammy. I thought she was like one of the normal ones early on. She was good at like commentary. Some of the girls do, they kind of talk to the season with the producers. But then as soon as the flip, the switch flipped when she was talking to Kelsey about being a potential alcoholic and popping pills, it has just been chaos ever since then. Because it really seemed like from the beginning. in those like Champagne gate moments that Tammy was kind of like a confidant for some of the girls. She was kind of like a voice of reason sort of and was helping them through these feelings.

And maybe that just got to Tammy's head. And like she was like helping all the girls. And that made her think that she was the authority on all the girls and she was going to be able to pick who was right and who was wrong. I don't know. But they go into this dinner. Kelsey is very happy with where she is with Pete. They're in a good place. And then Victoria P.

goes to talk to him. And she says she wants to clear the air with the, you know, the Alleya drama that they haven't really gotten to talk yet, that they had that great first date. And then Pete kind of started saying like he knew how much she wanted it and that

he felt like she was maybe more into it than he was. And right then she knew she was like, so what, like are you setting me home? What's going on? And he fucking sent her home. He set her home. sent her home. Victoria P got sent home out of nowhere.

If I was going to predict somebody going home tonight, it would have been her. It would have not been her. It would have not been Victoria Pee. It would have been Tennessee. Although Sydney did go home. Yeah. Victoria Pee being the first one to be in the limo crying tonight, shocking. Try not a great reaction. I'm glad we got that on film.

Usually those talks kind of go like, maybe we can get there if we just give it a couple more tries. Pete was like, no, I'm just not feeling it. You're not my wife. You're not my wife. He kept saying that. It was so odd. He's just like, she's not my wife. Like all the other ones, you kind of feel like they could be, but Victoria P, she's not

your wife out of all of them. And Fran, I think you said it when we were watching, like she, of all of them, she was one of the ones who was most likely you could see getting engaged. Yeah, I know a lot of people, look, a lot of people, I got a lot of shit for this on Twitter because I just tweeted Victoria P for Bachelorette. Honestly, the pool we have out of this season is awful. I hope maybe they, like, dip into Colton season or something. I don't know who's going to be the next Bachelorette is an entirely different conversation.

I wouldn't pick any of these girls too young. I wouldn't pick any of these girls either. But even though like it did seem like Victoria P clearly lied about the Aleas situation and this, that, and the other thing, it did feel like she really wanted to be engaged and married. Yeah. I just got that vibe from her. Maybe I don't know. I could have been wrong.

But I had just felt like that's what she wanted. She was stunned. People really don't like her too. They were like, oh, fuck no. It was like, oh, okay. I think it's because of the Alea stuff. It is because, I mean, they're like, she's a liar. I'm like, okay, I understand that.

But like every girl in this season is lying besides like three. Right. And I thought she was, yeah. I mean, you got Madison who I think is, we talk about her, but she's way out in front. But I thought Victoria P was like a couple tiers under that where he can go and talk to her. The other girls are just like crazy. Yeah. And it's just, I don't know.

know what's going on in Pete's head, right? Like, during the Alleya drama, he was going to Victoria P's like, I trust you so much. I trust your opinion. Clearly, that changed drastically. Yep. And he decided that he doesn't feel that way. It's just insane to me that he sees wife material in some of these other women and, and I don't know.

Lees you speechless. He's drowning a little bit, I think. He is. This was, you know, questionable decisions. He's been making a lot of them. I think this was another one. Yeah. For sure.

Victoria P, she is sent home. We cut to Madison and Peter. These two are in love. Just end the season. Just end it. It's very clear that Madison is the only one because, listen, we would say Kelly because she's also normal. But Kelly, she doesn't want it.

We talked about this. Kelly, she's not really that into it. She's not going to fight for it. She is normal, but she doesn't want it. Madison, she wants it. She's normal. No problems whatsoever. We haven't seen one little bit of drama.

Only nice things with Pete. it's clear that she is the only correct choice. They're basically boyfriend and girlfriend on the show. They're very giggly when they're around each other. Pete has a bunch of side pieces plus Madison as his real girlfriend. And there's never any drama talk with Madison. Every other girl he goes to them and is like, what's this girl saying about this girl?

And with Madison, it very much just looks like they're in a normal relationship. And then he's got to go back to these other crazy girls every once in a lot. He just talks about how much he likes Madison to Madison. Like when he's with Madison, he's like, I like you so much. All they can do is make out. I mean, he wrote a whole other telenovela script for her that he said, like, I could kiss you with like the passion of a thousand Chilean sons. I think that's what he said.

Yeah, I didn't like that one. I didn't like that one. I just figured, let's just make out without this. Yeah. You know? Yeah. And, you know, a lot of forehead locking between them. Like, they like to talk with their foreheads touching.

They're like so zoned into each other's eyes. So zoned in. When Pete goes to finally hang out with Madison, I think. feel like he's just like, thank God. I get like 15 minutes of normalcy. Honestly, and I know Madison has stayed out of the drama, and I think that that has been on purpose.

Like, I've now decided that the producers want Madison to be the savior of this season. Yeah. Like, they haven't showed any footage on purpose. Like, I bet you Madison has been in a couple conversations, maybe not in the drama fighting, but at least a participant. A couple snipes, maybe.

She hasn't been in one. moment. She is clean. That is very strategic on their part. Like they're making sure this girl is cruising. They want everybody to pick. She's the angel of the season. Exactly.

They want everybody to like Madison. Tammy is talking to McKenna. She's too immature. Natasha, I like Natasha a lot because I also think she's a big voice of reason. She's just, she summed it up perfectly. She was like, Tammy's more concerned about other people than she is with Peter. They're like, she thinks that she can decide who is here for Peter.

and who's not. Right. Yeah, Natasha feels like an adult. Right. Which we are seriously lacking in this group of girls. Extremely. I mean, she's the oldest one. She's 31.

Like, she's the oldest one. I'm surprised she hasn't snapped yet. If you were a 30-year-old person in the midst of that sea of immaturity, you just got snap. I would think so. She's handling it extremely well. But McKenna told Peter that Tammy had called her out for being immature. So that's the beginning of the McKenna, Tammy, Peter's situation.

But then we have the one-on-one with Victoria F, their horseback riding. He's just talked so much about how he really likes her. But she, the whole date between the day and the dinner, she's crying. She says she's going back and forth a lot. It's hard dealing with the other girls. She doesn't know where she is. She doesn't know where she is. She doesn't know where she is.

She doesn't know where she is. I'm so confused. Where am I? I take that literally when it comes out of her mouth. I just. she does not want to be here. Like I said to you, Trump, while we were watching that it's like, she went on the show for, you know, the obvious reasons why everyone goes on the show now,

you know, to get your name out there. Yep. And this man is falling in love with her and she has no idea what to do. Like a Cassie Colton thing. Like where Cassie's like, oh shit, he really likes me. I guess I got to do this thing. It very much, you said that while we were watching it. It does have those vibes.

And Pete, you would think this would turn him off where it's like she's not showing any outward affection to him and certainly no clarity in terms of their relationship. And he is Googly-eyed looking at Victoria F trying to make it work even though she is not, she's not trying to make it work at all. Isn't it funny how, like, no matter what the girls kind of have to just like the guy because they don't know who the bachelor is going to be. Yeah. So, like, it could be that she really just doesn't like him because you don't know who the bachelor is going to be. You are forced to like this random man. It feels like she is trying to force herself. Right.

Slash, you're signing up to be forced to like a random man. But they might not necessarily, Victoria might not have been like, I want to date Pete. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. She wants to be on the bachelor. Yeah. For whoever it is. But maybe she didn't want Pete. Maybe you're only on there for whatever reasons.

your name out there. And then you got Pete's in front of you who you maybe don't like. And you got to kind of pretend. And but what's working not in her favor is that Pete sees that as attractive. He's like, oh, she's like a little standoffish. I want to try and make this work when she's like, I don't want this to work. Pete is clearly into like wanting what he can't have. Yeah. Do you guys think that now, like because of this day and age and how we're so connected to technology more than ever, even though we have been for years now, that it's actually they're getting crazier because they're having a harder time. being in the real world and not being connected to things.

Because think about it, like years ago when the bachelor, bachelor I would be on, technology or like social media, one might say. I keep saying technology. I mean, technology has always been a thing. Not always. You get the point. Social media. It's late.

Whatever. It wasn't as much of a thing. But now they are so disconnected from the world. This person. That maybe it's making them even crazier. Instagram stalked them. I would love... If one girl would just be honest and be like,

Pete, you seem like a nice guy, but I want to check my phone so bad that I'm just going to get the hell out of here. I just want to look at Twitter and Instagram. That's all I want to do. Like, I got to get out of here. Again, you seem nice. I wish you didn't hurt your head.

I don't like you that much, though. I don't like you more than my phone. That could really be the cause of a lot of the girls lashing out of each other. They don't know what to do. They have no outlet. Yeah, they don't know what to do. True.

What they say social media, it's going to be it's just like an addiction. They don't have, they have no way to, you know, whatever. They're going to a withdrawal period right now. That's exactly right. Exactly. That's a great point.

It is very true. So they're on this dinner, this dinner date. And Pete's basically like telling Victoria F. Hey, like you've got to figure it out. You got to find out what you want. Do you want me? Do you want to be here? He's throwing all these questions at her.

She's getting sassy. Like she's like, I get it Peter. And then, of course, she gets up, storms off, is crying again. This is the second time. during a dinner one-on-one that she fucking gets up and starts crying again at the dinner table because she's getting emotional

which once again I can't believe she's making fun of other girls for getting emotional when here we are in this situation again but she's crying over things that make sense like it makes sense that she's like I don't know if I'm ready for marriage like I don't know if I should be here

because those feelings are coming in wow, I'm on The Bachelor and I'm actually going far and this guy might actually want to propose to me. She's freaking out a little bit. She's freaking out. Which, again, like you said, that's totally normal. You're on The Bachelor. You're freaking out. But she just storned away.

And again, Pete is like. He loves it. He loves it. He's almost like he wants to fix something. He just wants to fix. He wants Victoria have to like him as much as he likes her. Yeah. And it's just not happening.

Exactly. It's not right now. It's very, it's interesting because I feel like normally girls always joke about how like they want the boy that doesn't pay attention to them and doesn't give them the, you know, the same amount of attention back and that, that whole thing. It's kind of what, like, Pete is just latched on.

I think it works both ways. Who really is not giving him the time of day. And he loves that. I mean, he gives her a rose. Well, you cry and get a rose. Yeah, she really didn't have to say much to get that rose. Disgusting. Is Pete have a tear fetish?

I'm kidding. Was that thing too far? Cry for me. Cry right now. Yes. Keep crying. Okay. We're almost done, guys.

I'm so tired. Peter. So, Victoria F. She gets a rose. It cuts for the girls in the hotel. They are thinking that, you know, they're just hanging out. They don't have to worry about anything. The next step would be the next row ceremony.

But a knock on the door. Another date card. 2-1-1, McKenna and Tammy, that it says to come to the cocktail party early and enough is enough. I mean, enough is enough is just the slogan of this season. Like, enough is enough ladies. Enough is enough. I don't think Pete actually wrote that note, but. No, but somebody should say this to Pete.

Like, Pete, somebody needs to give a slip a card to Pete that says, hey, Pete, enough is enough. Yeah, channel this energy. Enough is enough. and maybe get him jacked up about it because he needs it. McKenna gets a little preachy. I'm picturing him screaming in the mirror. Enough is enough.

Enough is enough. Enough is enough. Pete. Get it together. Enough is enough. That's actually how we got injured. He just like hits his head against the mirror. He's so pumped up.

He gets the on the other side. He's got two bandages when he comes back. He did match his bandage to his sweater during that date. It was lovely. I thought that was nice. It was very color coordinated. All right, guys. The two on one.

Tammy. McKenna is sitting on that couch and she's like, Tammy, you've made me find my voice. She's ready to stand up for herself. McKenna sounded like a meme account that was just posting like inspirational. There's inspirational. You are enough. This is my voice. Kindness wins.

Wins. Wins everybody. Okay. She sounded like a robot. She looks down her phone, reads another one and just yell. It's like, yeah, I think what she was saying definitely sounded better in her head and she's like, this is going to be the defining moment for me this season. I'm going to beat Tammy, the mean person in the house and it just didn't really go. It sort of went that way, but her speech was not as impactful as she wanted.

It just wasn't it. Like I was totally on McKenna's side. Yeah. But she had to do better than that. For sure. Go off on Tammy. Like it just felt like maybe McKenna is just too nice. Make me feel like.

She didn't have. Yeah. I think that's what she didn't have the. Yeah. She tried to take the high. I think if you want to beat Tammy, you have to, you don't have to do it, but there has to be at least a feeling of violence in the air. Because that's the only thing that's going to scare Tammy.

Imagine McKenna was like, oh, oh, you're going to light the house on fire. I'm going to light you on fire. Exactly. And I will stab you. You got a fire with fire. Tammy was on her high school wrestling team. Say that again? She killed Tammy.

She was on her high school wrestling team. She is so scary. This group date, like, imagine if this group date, this two-on-one was like, the card was like, you will wrestle to the death. Need it. You will wrestle for Peter's heart One winner I wouldn't be shocked at the fetal position

And just like trying to not let Tammy hurt her too bad They missed an opportunity I would not have been shocked if it came down to that at this point In the show They had a pillow fighter Leon. You need to duel to the death Yeah These two are at each other's throats

Tammy talks to Pete And really like lays it on McKenna is not here for the right reasons She's talking about her brand she's creating hashtags for herself. She packed her bags for her the group date. I'm really sick of Tammy judging everybody else because McKenna in that moment was in a bad headspace.

She got skipped over for a one-on-one date again. She was thinking, why am I here? Maybe I should go home. There's no way that none of these girls go through an entire season without one night thinking like, maybe I need to get the fuck out of here. Especially this season, I think they were thinking of a lot. For Tammy to use that for ammo against McKenna to be like she packed her bags for the group date.

They all pack their bags before the group date. I think they probably just do that. That's a rule. Yeah, they probably just do it. Every bag is packed before the group date. Tammy's picking and choosing on what she's using on against McKenna. And Peter has no idea. He's like, oh.

He's like, what? I mean, it's unbelievable. And, you know, Tammy's just thrown out of the mean liners. He probably packed his bag multiple times during hand. When if he was like, Tammy, did you pack your bags? She'd be like, yeah. Yeah, of course we all do. We have to rule.

Yeah, but only when I was told. Like, what? I have to do that. They make me do it. Yeah. So Tammy's throwing out these lines. She's wearing black today because it's McKenna's funeral. She's not going to lose it.

She's not going to lose to some blonde girl from Canada. It was getting. Tammy was just bitchy. Just bitchy. Blondeans, Canadians, people from Iowa. Me and Trent feel personally victimized by Tammy. I do. I do.

Raise your hand if you feel personally victimized by Tammy. Two hands are up. Because it's true. Yeah. She's, like, why is she picking on Canada and Iowa? Those are two of the nicest places in the world. I mean, she just, like, lost it. I don't know what happened with her, but I, something took over her and she lost it and just went full.

Like, McKenna really seems like a very sweet girl. She does. She's young. Sure, she's young, but, like, she hasn't done anything to be, to have her character destroyed. You know, I think she's sweet. I think she's emotional. Yeah. But I think she's a sweet girl.

I don't think she's by evil by any means. Tammy seems evil. There's a little bit of evil there. She has some demons inside of her. So, totally. McKenna tells Peter that Tammy gets joy from bringing other people down and that she's been struggling for this past week. And then unfortunately, McKenna, he said that this was her truth, of course.

I mean, my truth just flying around. She actually said, my damn truth. Which is somehow even worse. Somehow worse. Doesn't make it better. Tammy dropped to my truth earlier too, which I didn't like. Also, my mom just texted me, good night. love you so much. She does that every night. Mom, I wish. Mom, I'm in the studio right now.

Boy, is that nice. Doing this for you, Ro. My parents, my parents still. You know, with the unicorns face. I still don't have anything from my parents. My parents don't know that I was on TV. Well, you didn't tell them. You cannot. Yeah, you can't make your parents feel bad. You didn't even tell them. Look at my mom texting the same thing every night. Wow. That is fantastic. Love you so much. Wait, I don't think I knew this. What you mean? Look at this shit. Yeah. Every night. All unicorns. It's just like, no, I always respond. No, she does respond. No, she does respond. See that doesn't stop

That is so cute Oh my god I love her so much Okay Alright now let's get back to Mommy who's on TV She's gonna be mad Okay yeah let's go back

Let's go back to talk about these jerks These bitches They're like I'm totally kidding No let me tell you I did laugh when they were on the couch You're like I feel bad for you I feel bad for you And then McKenna said

You are nothing to me And Tammy said I am everything All right ladies Let's like let's calm down I was so mad when Tammy said that. I just was furious. She didn't even look at McKenna when she said it. She just looked off into the distance and said, I'm everything.

I felt like she was Thanos and the Marvel. It was like, what are you talking about? What's a reality show? What does I'm everything mean? So evil. The way she just looked out into the distance, I'm everything. Yeah. And I think like Tammy was, it felt like kind of giving McKenna's shit for caring about how

she was going to be portrayed on the show. McKenna said, you know, you're going to be the villain or whatever, you know, whatever she had said. And Tammy was like, I don't care. I'm here for Peter or like whatever. You can't say that that doesn't cross your mind. Like there's no way you're in that situation where you don't think, hmm, I wonder what the general public is going to think about me. Like that's a huge part of being on the show. Right. I think it's everybody's natural instinct to want to be liked. For sure. So once again, another I felt like kind of just mean thing to say. Then he sends Tammy home. Peter comes in. He sends home just Tammy. Keeps McKenna.

What do you say to McKenna? I believe you or I trust you? Something of that effect. It really just, it seemed like he came in and was just like, I'm team McKenna. Like, sorry, Tammy. Yeah, like you're mean. Yeah, this is, I'm, I'm siding with her.

I'm not rewarding evilness. Yeah, and she had a huge smile on her face. She was so happy. Imagine Peter came back and was like, Tammy, I know they make you pack your bags. Yeah, yeah. He's like, oh, shit. Yeah.

That would be great. It would have been so good. So they go into this cocktail party. Natasha needs some reassurance, which she gets from Peter. I like Natasha. I think she has an actual good head on her shoulders. Victoria, this was unbelievable. Victoria F goes to talk to Peter and she's like,

I just really don't want to push you away. I want to give more of you. And Peter, no joke, like, might as well have pulled his pants down. Like in that moment. His eyes little. Peter, his face was just like, that is. exactly what I wanted from you. I'm like, she didn't even fucking say anything.

Just because she's talking to you directly and she doesn't do that in other times, doesn't mean that she said something meaningful. Like she said, I want to open up to you. I don't want to back away from you. That was it. And he was like, that's all I, that's all I've ever wanted. Crazy. It's just insane.

He's hypnotized. It's crazy. And I will say, Victoria F, very attractive. Yeah. And I think that might be steering these decisions a little bit. Yeah. Just wanted to put that in there. Yeah.

Very, very good point. Okay, so Hannah Ann and who else had a rose? Who had a one? Hannah Ann. She got one, Victoria F had a date. And who got the group day rose? Group day rose. Oh, my God.

Madison, right? Of course, yeah. Duh. Not in the drama. It was hard to remember. She just like, swoop. Yeah, I'll take that rose. Yeah, so they had roses.

There was three roses left. Kelsey, Natasha, and Kelly, I actually thought maybe this would have been the end for Kelly, but she is still in this. Kelsey, Natasha, Kelly, which means that he sends McKenna home anyway, even though she made it through the two-on-one and they got sent home 30 minutes later anyway.

Like a fake two-on-one date. There's no point to have it. There's no point. They just both got sent home anyway. Like there was the drama of them yelling at each other, and it felt like that was really it because then he just sent home McKenna anyway. He did say that he didn't

like he did say before the rose ceremony he didn't know what he what his decision was going to be but he sends McKenna home and he sent Sydney home which I was kind of surprised by. Yeah I just felt like he was trying to get rid of the drama. Yeah. Now we're kind of at the point where

the drama is gone unless there I mean there's obviously going to be new drama with these girls but we've gotten rid of Tammy we got rid of McKenna. Victoria P is gone. Sydney's gone Victoria F is the most drama-filled person left. Yes.

For sure. And he's just like Googly art for reasons we don't really understand. I want to say that I want to clarify because we talked about this on the recap for night one. This was on Tuesday. I saw these tweets from Sydney afterward. We talked about this for a while about Sydney's story. And Rio was actually what seems to be spot on that. she, you know, she tweeted multiple things.

I actually think, wow, breaking news, Cindy deleted her Twitter, which that's unfortunate, that sucks. I feel like she's getting a lot of shit and she was posing screenshots of DMs she was getting that were, like, horrifying.

Horrifying DMs of things people were saying to her. But she did tweet that, she said, it feels ridiculous that I even have to address this. But correct, I did win a beauty pageant my senior year of high school. That was voted for by five judges, not my peers. Winning a pageant based off of outer beauty does not take away the racial bullying and isolation I've been through.

She said I was on the cheer team in middle school, many clubs in high school. You'll do anything you kind of fit in. I tried. I won pageants because of my looks and I was in clubs because I wanted a scholarship to get to college, not because I was accepted by my peers. Anyone from my high school want to pull out the videos of girls stuffing my locker with Oreo cookies, vandalizing my home, shoving me in the hallways. Teachers literally referring to me as a half breed,

calling my mother the worst names I've ever heard in my life. I doubt that. Jesus. So the girl that tweeted the yearbook photos. Yeah. She deleted, like she, Sydney had messaged her this whole long thing about, you know, high school and what, you know, what the damage she was doing, basically posting those photos. And then she also posted screenshots of messages she was getting on Instagram that,

honestly, I can't even read out loud. Like, they're really, really, really bad. So I can't even, I can't even read them. And I feel bad for, I mean, I, I said it to you guys, I don't really like the way Sydney acted on the show.

I think that's fair. I think she was kind of mean to a lot of the other girls. Yeah. I'm not sad to see her go. No, no. But that doesn't take away from her past and her, you know, like, I'm sad to see the bully. Right.

Like, you hit that. That's very, like, very valid. I totally believe that those things happened to her in the past. But it's just insane that how crazy social media has gotten to this point that, you know, she's fighting with girls that she went to high school on Twitter. Right. It's crazy. And I feel bad she, you know, had to delete her Twitter now.

But to pick it up back on a lighter note, because I don't want to, you know, this has been such a great week of The Bachelor. Trent, you were the luggage guy. Let's take it full circle. You were the luggage guy. I was the luggage guy. It's been an hour now. It's been an hour.

It's sinking in. How do you feel? I feel great. I'm excited for the whole thing to air on Monday. I think people will be just as excited as they are right now. But I feel great. I lived my dream. I made it happen.

And I was the luggage guy. It feels great. Will you be able to sleep tonight? Unlikely. I don't think I'll be able to sleep that much because I'm, yeah, there's a lot of excitement running through my veins. Adrenaline. That's the word.

Ready to pull another luggage. Do you think you're going to go home and break out some luggage and just start pulling them around? Yeah, I might do it. I might do it, maybe try to tire myself out. Yeah. relive the dream. Yeah. Just close my eyes and picture like I'm there.

It's crazy that it happened, man. I really still can't believe it. Me too, honestly. Just a fantastic moment and a fantastic week for The Bachelor. I like five hours. I don't hate five hours. I know it's a lot. I don't want to do it again.

I need a break for that. I'm falling asleep right now. I'm not going to lie. I'm tired. I'm fucking tired. Yeah. Five hours. We made it.

We did it. The end is here. We also have Peter's interview in this. episode as well. I'm really excited for Monday because we get to see even more of Trent, the luggage guy. It's gonna be fun.

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Let's go. Pete or Peter? All right. So it's funny, I've always gone by Peter, and then I have an Instagram name Pilot Pete. Right. People start calling me Pete, and it's funny. I actually wasn't even the one that made that name. My brother, when I first signed up for Instagram, created it for me.

Okay. And so then it just kind of stuck. So, but I'll say Peter still. Okay. So it kind of depends on my mood when I'm talking about it. you if I say Peter Peter. And then is it Pilot Pete or Pete the Pilot? I say Pete the Pilot.

I think that's my favorite. But Pilot Pete being the Instagram, that makes most sense. We're team Pilot Pete. Yeah. I would say Pilot Pete. Trent's, that's the official. We can now retire Pete's a pilot. I'm willing to switch.

If that's what he goes by, then I'm going to go by that. Pete's right in front of your face. I know. I had to back down. I'm not going to go against him. No, pilot Pete's good. That's very fair. All right.

So let's talk about this season, Peter. This has been one of the most. dramatic, if not the most dramatic. And I know Chris Harrison says that every single season, but... He wasn't lying this time. No, he really was. He really wasn't lying. It seems like every single week, there's something new. I don't even know where to begin, but I guess we can ask, like, how do you manage the drama? And looking back now, did you realize all of this was going on? No. You really don't. And there's so many times out where I'm watching this and I'm seeing just interactions between the women when I obviously wasn't there. For me, that was the hardest part, because

I would only, you know, I don't have a phone. I have no outside communication. You're not privy to any information. And all I can go off of is what someone is telling me. And I'm not going into that conversation thinking that person is just trying to deceive me or telling me, you know, not the truth. And you hear one thing. And then you hear a completely different story from someone else. It's like, how do you, like, I'm not a mind reader.

How do you make a decision? And it's just like, you know, dating that many people is so incredibly difficult. Obviously it's going to cause a lot of drama. And I don't know, I just, I did my best. I know I made a ton of mistakes. believe me. But I'm totally okay with that. And I was totally okay with that going into it. I did not want to be perfect and have this perfect season. I just was going to fall on my heart. And I learned from any possible mistakes I did make. I don't have regrets. But yes, no shortage

of drama. Yeah. One thing we've joked about a lot this season is that like any rule book or people say the rules are on this show have been there are no rules. Let's go bring a girl back and then let her go. Yes. Yeah. There are just absolutely no rules this season and it I think it actually pisses a lot of people off that they're like he can't do that but like when you are making these decisions like you just say you want to do it and you can do it right like yeah when you when a lea came back that was your decision to keep her and let her stay yeah so i didn't know she was coming back but when she did yes 100% my call to keep her there i knew i was there was there was going to be repercussions i knew that but it was important enough for me at that point to

give that relationship another chance i felt something for her a strong connection right off the bat and I didn't feel good sending her home the week I did before, and I admitted I was definitely influenced, and I shouldn't have been influenced that way. When I let her go again the second time, at that point, it's just like a decision of, listen, this is so, like this insane situation, there's so much toxicity. You've got to make a tough decision just for the benefit of the entire house with everyone there, and I let this thing, you know, blow up in your face. But, yeah, I mean, I definitely, I got to call a lot of the shots, and I was very grateful for that, you know? Yeah, it definitely felt like cutting a lot of.

Leah sending her back home is sort of a respite for the rest of the house because it felt like there were some girls who were maybe going to walk away if Alea stayed. Did you have that feeling when you sent her home? I did. But honestly, like if some of the women wanted to walk away, I was okay with that because I didn't want anyone there that didn't want to be there. If, you know, if they didn't feel it with me, I told them from the first night, let me know. And, you know, I'll respect that.

So I truly, that wasn't the reason I sent her home. I could just see that night in Cleveland at that that that cocktail party. You could just feel like the vibe in the house. It was like it was just negative and that's not what I wanted. Right. It was tough because I really do like I still, I really feel like LA is a good person. And it was tough for me to end that relationship at that point.

But I think it was for like the greater good for everybody involved. Were you excited to go to Cleveland or did you react to like how the girls reacted? No, I. So I actually have been to Cleveland. Cleveland. No, yeah, I really do too. I've been one time and I loved it. I'd only been once before, too.

I had a very short, like a 10 or 12-hour layover for work. And so I didn't really remember too much of it. So I was like, you know what? Why not? Let's go live it up. And honestly, there were some of the most fun dates there. All the people in Cleveland are so awesome. So right on the lake there, it's, you know, the stadium he went to was awesome.

I'm a fan, for sure. You said you didn't see, obviously. You don't see all the conversations that happened with the girls of the house. watching back now do you kind of think like oh maybe like sending Kelsey back to the girls with a rose was maybe sending her to a pack of hungry balls I was like so I was watching that back last night and then I see I was like oh we were like Pete no I loved it I was still in I'm like I don't need a ceremony to know what I want I know I want you for the next week and and progress this um but it's seeing her reaction she's just like thanks

just knowing what's on the other I wasn't thinking that one I'm just trying to show her how much she means to me in that moment I'm not thinking what she has to go back to you but she handled it like a champ and she was very gracious

towards Tammy when you know Tammy was kind of getting on her case about because I Tamus scares me then I canceled the party which didn't do this isn't your first time canceling the party either

you canceled it one other time right just because I knew exactly what I wanted to do that week I didn't need to delay anything. I was like, let's get this done. I'm ready. Because it's tough. If you're going into a week and you know who you're sending home,

it's tough having that conversation with someone that you already know where your heart's at and what I'm going to do. So that's the reason I did that, but it definitely stirred up. Do you notice McKenna's facial expressions in while the roast ceremonies are going on? Or is that just us at home? Oh, no. During the roast ceremonies, no. Yeah, like I did not. They would cut to her, she's like licking her lips. She's like, making out with herself. Watching them back now, yes. I paid a lot of attention. Her expressions are priceless.

Yeah. Speaking of making out, Pete, you've done a lot of it this season, a lot. You love making out. Okay. I have something to say in this, but okay. Okay. That was probably the number one question. Number one question.

And we asked, yeah, I texted Dylan and Tyler, and Tyler said, ask him how many girls he kissed in one night. So that's a question. Ask me? How many girls? When's the next time you're going to date 30 women? Well, listen, I will set the record very straight because I will not retract from any of this stuff. I do not think it was wrong at all. I was dating these women.

They were not my friends. If you think about it, A, you're also watching a dating show, right? So there's going to be intimacy and romance and all that stuff. Oh, we support it. Yeah, I always support and I back it up. And it's funny how they love to show a lot of the kissing scenes and a lot of it. Like, there's a lot more conversation that occurs than just that.

But again, if you only are that way with a couple of the women, then it's kind of like, well, then he's only interested in them. You know, you can't just kiss a couple. Just being real. I know that sounds weird. But that's how the show has to go. And, yeah, I'm not embarrassed by that at all. Or, like, I wouldn't do any differently. Because I'm also very passionate guys.

So I'm not going to change just for the show. Yeah. And I feel like in order to find out who you really like, you're going to have to figure out some sort of physical connection either way. So that makes sense. Also, you told Sidney in last night's episode that she was the best kisser on the show. Do we stand by that now? Or do we?

Yeah. Next question. She's like praying that, yeah, she's at the end. No, I, again, I'm not weird with that either. There has to be a best, right? There's only one person. So she's, yeah, really good kisser. And, you know, nothing wrong with that.

Yeah, nothing wrong with it. If there's a lot more into a relationship than just kissing, but in that regard, she was really good. We are looking at your scar. We're seeing it, real life. We watched the security footage of you. Like, did they, did we get jipped? I'm like seeing the rest of the... I feel like in seasons past, if a bachelor or bachelor

gets hurt, we're following them in the ambulance, we're seeing them in the hospital. Yeah. And we got like just kind of hilarious security footage of you... Well, so the security footage you guys saw, that's the grainy stuff. Yeah, yeah. The only actual footage they had,

because we had just finished filming and had done some B-roll before the girls even got there. And so I'm coming back, we're taking the golf cart to the room. That's all... The cameras weren't rolling. That's all they had. Right. And then it got very... traumatic. Obviously, we try to get airlifted out by a helicopter because we're in the middle of the

jungle here in West Rica. The weather was too bad, so they couldn't do that. We had to do like a two and a half hour drive into the city and they had a plastic surgeon waiting for me at like 10 p.m. when I got there and he stitched me up, 22 stitches. But I was happy they actually did show the actual footage because that's literally all we had. And not just it was very funny that they did. Not only they did a recreation and then they're like, but also here's the real footage thing. Was there any thoughts where you're going to have to shut down production at all? Was there any risk of that? Yeah, I mean, I remember, so when I did it, I didn't even feel anything.

I just went into complete shock, and I think just my endorphin started going off and didn't feel any pain. Didn't know how bad it was. And then I see everyone over my head and they're like, oh, my God, this is bad. And I'm like, oh, it's not what I want to hear right now. But I legit, I thought it was probably over. I remember telling a lot of producers, like, I'm so sorry guys. Like, I feel like this is it. Really?

Yeah. Because they were saying it, like, it was pretty deep. And, like, my forehead was literally split open like two or three inches. 22 stitches. That's a lot of stitches. Yeah, it was bad. I remember when What a legacy

It leaked to the tabloids And we were all freaking out We were like Was it gonna end? People thought on the golfing with Chris Like on a golf course That's what we thought We were

We thought the story was That you were golfing And that you were Had a glass in your hand And that you fell And that you fell onto the glass Like that's what That's what they were running

I heard so many different stories I just started laughing I'm like dang Rivers can spread quickly And it looked like the girls were really buying The Puma story for a little bit It was so hard

To keep a straight face about that I remember walking up that driveway As I was about to go see him in Costa Rica I'm like just keep it together Keep it serious you can do this And yeah Their reactions were priceless too

They were really buying it Like I saw a lot of tweets Where you just saw different stages Of girls' faces And they were like A Puma Like come on guys Let's think it out

Although I think if I was standing there In that moment I might just buy whatever you're putting down Like oh yeah He attacked Puma whatever There's a volcano literally right there Yeah Of course

we, you know, the most dramatic season yet, we saw another date that we thought was going to burst into flames with Chase Rice and Victoria, although you handled it beautifully, one might say. Like you really handled it well because how else would somebody handle this situation where you run into somebody's ex on a date? And you really had no idea. I swear. I had no idea. I swear. And again, I look back and I'm like so embarrassed for myself when I see myself make the comment about Chase Rice Rice singing at our wedding if it gets there.

Yeah. A plus. That's A plus. And I think at one point you were like, Victoria, you know all the words. Oh, God.

I know. I know. And then I go and I have a talk with Chase after. And like, I'm like, dude, yeah, this is Victoria. She's an awesome girl.

I'm like, dude, you're trying to idiot. Like, he knows that. Did you text him? No. I haven't, I haven't talked to him. But really, I,

it is what it is. Like, Victoria didn't do it on purpose. She wasn't dating him. We had a dinner. I know she felt horrible, but I wasn't going to just break up with her there because something that she couldn't control happen and we had fun.

Right. It's not like, that is my boyfriend right now. She wasn't dating them. They were broken up, so it's awkward as hell, watching it back, but it's all good. It's kind of like when Hannah came back because the girls couldn't really control that. This is just, this season is the return of the exes. Yeah.

There's a good way to put it. Wow. That's what they should name it. Just retitle the whole thing. It really was. When you sat down and had, that conversation with Hannah in the first episode. Did you think that like having her on that date would ever lead to like having that kind

of conversation? Like it seemed like you were just there to have a light, fun, like let's ha ha tell up funny sex stories and it took a turn. It did. And yeah, that conversation was never supposed to happen. Yeah. We showed up there. I knew she was hosting the date, didn't know what we were doing.

And, you know, I'm hearing the news just like the girls are for the first time. I'm sitting there, you know, writing my story out, and I hear that Hannah's having, like, a rough time, and so I want to go check on her, and that's when I go in the dressing room, and it's just tough, because we had a really, obviously, a real, there's a real, you know, relationship. I really cared for her. I know what she did for me, and obviously didn't work out in that moment, but I felt bad for her, and all those emotions are just real. And I didn't, honestly, looking back, like, I wasn't mad that I asked her to come back to the house, because at that point, I hadn't had any meaningful, real, connections yet. It was a week into it. So it was too soon and Hannah was someone that has always meant a lot to me since I started, you know, since I met her. Um, but yeah, very raw conversation. Yeah. It was, it was, it felt like we were watching, uh, something very private. And like, uh, the closure that you guys, like, kind of needed, which, which was good. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you couldn't just pick up and be like, I'm, I'm going home. I'm not the bachelor anymore. So, of course, you had to like ask her to come on the show. I was so dumb because I did say that.

I just didn't use that part But I even I was just like yeah Like I You know I was feeling this with her But yeah Yeah

I left that part out What's the strangest place Someone has brought up The windmill stuff Where's the weirdest place You've had like The windmill conversation With someone

Weirdest place Because you gotta get that all the time It's always weird When I'm flying And so I'm on a trip And I'm flying with like A 50 or 60 year old captain And he like

First asked He's like hey so How about the windmill Like was that Was that all real? I'm like Yes this is real And like

They're super interested In that part Right But it was funny We did a little windmill exhibit At the Grove in L.A. And I was kind of weird, but like cool. It's part of my story.

So I'm not like... It will be forever. Yeah. She's part of it. Maybe a windmill tattoo. I got the 12th man tattoo And I think that's the only tattoo I'm sticking with. Okay.

So are you like working right now? Are you still flying and everything? I am. Yeah, I have a trip. Do people freak out when they, when you're flying their plane? It's funny. Like, I was just, like, walking on a flight and being, like, Pete.

What's funny is when people are, because usually I'm in the cockpit, you know, doing the pre-flight stuff before, but when they're de-planning, I'm always standing there saying by, and everyone's just like single file, right, coming out, but everyone's behind them is kind of pushing everyone out. So you can't really stop. And it's just always so funny without fail. And people, like, kind of just like realize and recognize, but then they're getting pushed out the door and then they try to like come back.

That's how you know. The flight time is like, ma'am, you cannot enter, keep going. Keep going. That's a rule. you cannot come back onto the aircraft. Yeah, no, there's a lot of slow debortings now. Oh, that is very, that's incredible. I guess to wrap it up, we can ask you now that the season is over,

would you say that you're happy? I can say that I am happy with where I'm at, and I followed my heart until the very last second. So, um, any more clues? And I want to ask you one more thing, too, because we saw, um, Madison get to meet your whole family at the beginning of the season. season. Was that horrifying or were you like, this is a great first date? So I just, I lucked out like crazy with her because that date could have been very awkward and uncomfortable the first time,

you know, we go on a date and introduce you to my family. Obviously, everyone knows I'm very close to my family and they know how much, you know, they mean to me. But Madison, absolutely, she killed it. The moment was not too big for her. She loved it. She was, you know, the honesty, the life of the party when we were at my house and then at the concert with them, my family, you know, had a good time there and I think with some other women that could have been weird but with her it wasn't that's great that's great did you forget any of the girls names on the first night because we all we with the um lexie red car thing like I guess that wasn't the first night but when you pulled out the red like when you kind of fooled her and then you were like I got

this little red car we're like he does definitely forgot what her name was no I promise you I've heard that comment a lot for people I'm like guys I swear to God I was totally messed with her the entire time I had that plan I had the car in my pocket everyone's like he has the worst memory i'm like actually have a really good memory thank you very much but the first night yeah i forgot a couple um mispronounced a couple um we've been misproncing a couple there's been so tough i mean 30 30 names the first night yeah yeah i will say i'll fess up i forgot the victoria victoria f convo or her birthday no when she came up to no i actually people don't believe that either i knew it was it okay um but when she came up the first night from the limo

oh right and you made and you made her retell the joke Oh, man. So bad watching that back. She was, like, mortified. That I forgot. I'll admit to that. That was real. Everything else, though, is, yeah.

Okay. All right, fine. Fair, very fair. Yep. Scouts honor. Trent, any other dying questions? I don't think so. The windmill thing I wanted, and I think that's,

this is one of the more entertaining season we've ever watched. It's just been a great season so far. One last one, because this was going crazy viral on Twitter last night. Did you know that Sydney and Hannah Brown went to the same high school? No. Is this? Now you're finding it out. Maybe.

Wait, what? Did we know that? No. No. Yeah, no. It went crazy viral on Twitter last night. Somebody had a yearbook. She had a yearbook.

They went to school. They were back to back. Wow. Yeah. Is that crazy? I knew that she was from Alabama. There was a couple girls from Alabama. Can't escape the Alabama girls.

The connections, the pageant connections have just been part of, you know, of this show that has taken off and the drama is there. That's why I think we laughed when Alleyo was like said that she was afraid that she could have not get on the show because she knew Victoria and I was like, hmm, that's why

you get cast on the show. That's already happened before, yeah. Yeah, like that's true. Right, exactly. I'm still confused by that whole situation to be completely honest. I mean I try my best to get to the bottom of it and it's just like at some point it's like, okay. You bringing them together, like made it worse. They're going on the evening. The whole time you're like,

happening. I just don't even know. At the end of the cup, I'm like, I haven't gone anywhere yet. Right. There's no more clarity. Right. Right. We're just even asking you because it's still like she said, she said. There's no, like, so that's, I feel like that's what it's always going to be. Watching it back, do you have a stronger opinion or are you still just as confused? Um, I guess, you know, with, with A lea, I think if I had a bet I would say, yeah,

they obviously did know each other. They were more than just like 15 minute acquaintances. Yeah. Um, so yeah, just, just confusing. That stuff. just, yeah, a bunch of a mess. Yeah. Yeah, at least, you know, moving on. Move past it. All right.

I think we can wrap it up. I guess Pete, I guess we can end by just saying, like, is there any way? How would you kind of describe without giving anything away the rest of this season, if you can describe it? Well, I would say that, you know, I definitely, I put my, and I think people are seeing it, I put my heart into it, like, no other, 100%. every single week. It was insanely difficult for me, made a ton of mistakes, was okay with that. And towards the end, it gets really, really hard. And that last week is for sure one of the hardest weeks of my life. Last day of it to the last second. Literally just stuff keeps happening. And just

kind of stuff I just couldn't have expected or predicted in any way. But I'm here now. I made it through and I'm happy with where I'm at. One last funny question. We'll wrap it up on a funny You know, how would you describe this picture in one word? Oh. It is. That's a bad idea. Looks like a solid time. Is that Hannah Ann?

Yeah, kissing Hannah Ann. Tammy. Oh, I love Tammy's face. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, God. Puma. Perfect.

All right. Thanks, Peter. Thank you. Thanks, me. All right, well, that wraps up today's episode. Like I said, very, very Bachelor-heavy. We'll be talking about more. on Monday, but I hope you guys are just as happy as us about Trent, and we hope you have a

fantastic weekend.