Chicks in the Office - Prom Night! (BIP Week 7 Recap)

Episode Date: September 29, 2021

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Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne, giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. We are back with the one, the only grocery store, Trent. Hello. Hello, Trent.

Hello. I'm very excited to be back. I really do miss the show and I don't do it We really miss you. Like I genuinely like I just When I when I watched it on the road And we're doing whatever we're doing for the golf stuff And then I don't get to really talk about it with anybody

Because none of those guys watch And they're always just they're always going to dinner And I'm always racing off to some streaming device Or some TV And then once it's over I'm just like All right now I don't get to talk about it with anybody I just have to tweet about it And then that's it

So it's very very nice to be back in here with you guys so we can recap the episode. It feels like we are missing someone when Ray and I just do it by ourselves. It really does. Because we are missing somebody. Yeah, no, I know. I know. And it doesn't feel right, but it feels right now.

It definitely does. How was the Ryder Cup trend? You talked to us about that for a second. The Ryder Cup was great. We were there all week. The atmosphere there is insane. Like, it's the first T is this huge grandstand. And for anybody that doesn't know, the Ryder Cup is Team USA versus Team Europe in golf.

and all the best golfers. Every two years. Every two years and all the best golfers from those countries, they go up against each other and this whole weekend thing. But it's basically a huge party. Yeah. Where people just get hammered and they watch this,

you know, they're very patriotic about everything that's going on. And there's this huge first team on the grandstand. People are going nuts. Frankie and I ran to it the other day. Very funny video. Thank you. We got these great seats.

But the whole thing is just great. Like the atmosphere was just unmatched. A top five sporting event for sure for anybody. I really want to go. go. Yeah, you should. And the Americans really just absolutely killed them. It wasn't even close. I did watch a lot this week. A lot of it

because I do love the Ryder Cup's very entertaining. In 2025, it is going to be at Beth Payton Black. I'm more interested in 2023. It's going to be in Rome. You could go to that one too. Yeah. Let's go to Italy. You guys just go fucking golf and I'll just watch The Bachelor. Okay. I told you

and Frankie this today. There's nothing I love more than following along with you and Frankie when you guys are on the road together. Love. Because it just seems like you guys are always up to some funny shenanigans. You guys would make a great like buddy sitcom. Buddy cop movie. We have a really good time.

When we go on the road, we just, we have a really good time. We go out to dinner. We run to the first tee at the Rider Cup. We do all a bunch of stupid shit, but it's really fun. It's really fun. And it was, where were you, Wisconsin? Yeah, Sheboygan, Wisconsin. Sheboygan.

That's a great name for a town, like a place in Wisconsin. It was awesome. Just fits. It's right on Lake Michigan. The views were crazy. How's Wisconsin as a place? I love it because I'm from the Midwest, so it's very similar to where I'm from. Just even driving in from the Milwaukee airport, we had to drive like an hour.

And it looks very similar to the Iowa landscape. A lot of corn, a lot of fields, really wide open. But the sunsets are beautiful. The whole place is great. Beautiful. Well, we're glad that you had a nice time. We did miss you. I do like to mix it in a little bit because I think.

think it's funny because we just always joke like for the people who maybe just listen to the chicks at the office or just listen to the bachelor content and don't really dabble in as much barstle stuff and when we come on and we're just like trentz it's a golf thing like can't believe he's doing that it's all like all very cool and objectively super cool and four play is you know the biggest millennial golf podcast which we do love to brag about around here and You guys did, like, it was really cool. Hey, good for you. Thank you.

And I personally, like, I do enjoy watching golf, mostly on Sundays before that. I don't really care. But the Ryder Cup just seems so cool. It's so cool. It's like, it's a team event. That's just something that doesn't ever happen in golf. It gives the golfers personalities, which is like, you actually get to see, like, these guys joke and be funny and, like, have fun together and, like, chug beers on the,

while they're playing golf. Right. Like Justin Thomas and Daniel Berger chug beers on the first tee on. on Saturday. And they just, you don't do that at a normal golf event. So the whole thing was very cool.

It was very cool to be there. But again, I'm very happy to be here talking about this show. You know what I'm chugging? Whoa. Water. I need some of that.

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Yeah. Trent, you're beautiful too. We're all beautiful. No, you two. Yeah, thumbs up. All right, we had a great episode. Three hours went on for a long time, but we did get a lot out of it. The first hour was pretty much totally around this.

Ivan situation. We picked up right where we left off with Ivan and Aaron still fighting. And immediately, Ivan is doubling down to everyone that Chelsea is the one who asked him to talk. It was not him. He wasn't doing anything wrong. He talked to Aaron. He said he wasn't going to pull anyone and he didn't because Chelsea's the one that came up to him to talk and that's how it went down. And then they played a nice little dramatic flashback where we very clearly see that. was Ivan who asked Chelsea to go chat. Tough. Tough.

Yeah, because I always want to be anti-Aaron. I haven't liked him for a long time since his original season. But Ivan put me in a tough spot because he was telling everyone on the beach like you're saying, no, Chelsea pulled me. She wanted to talk to me. For some reason not thinking that Chelsea was eventually going to come back wherever she was being interviewed or whatever, missing all of the drama. And then that happened. When Chelsea came back, she was like, no, he asked to talk to me and the whole thing fell apart and Aaron came out looking like the good guy, unfortunately.

But he was in this instance. Yeah, unfortunately, Ivan didn't really have the best run here. We thought last week when Ivan tweeted about how he wanted to get on a podcast and talk about what's happening and we liked Ivan, you know, I don't not like Ivan after this. I don't think he did anything really wrong. We got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Yeah, that's it. And I think at the end of the day, like, is this the worst thing that could have happened? No.

No. I don't really think anybody on the beach even really cares that this happened. Don't worry. Riley's going to hold him accountable. That's, we can count on that. But I would not want to break the rules around Riley. No. Like, I wouldn't want to do anything out of the ordinary around Riley because I feel like I'm going to get in big trouble.

Riley is not breaking rules. No. Riley is certainly not breaking rules. Riley likes rules more than you do. Yeah, he definitely does. Riley's a lawyer, is he not? I believe so, yeah. He really likes rules.

He loves the law. I didn't call him laws. Yeah, he loves the rules and the laws. 100% he is following the law. It was interesting because this all went down and Chelsea wasn't there. I don't know if that was a coincidence, probably not. I feel like the whole fight, not even fight, but Ivan and Aaron getting in each other's faces and having a bro off,

Chelsea missed all of it and then missed she missed like Ivan and Riley kind of yelling at Aaron and I do appreciate Riley because you know Ivan is his friend and he definitely went to bat for him

but you you could tell like at the end Riley's like oh man I'm always going to have his back but it'd be great if he didn't fucking lie I don't know that's the worst when your friend does something and you just can't.

Riley got aggressive. Yeah, like, you just can't agree what they did, but you're also their friend. So you're like, well, how mad am I going to get at you? Right. Riley seemed pretty mad. Riley did seem mad. And Aaron, too.

Aaron constantly like this, like, aggressiveness towards the guys. And I think it was Ivan who had said, you just, I forget exactly what he said, but he said, like, you just keep fighting all the guys. Like, stop picking fights with all. the guys it just keeps happening so that went on and everyone seemed to agree like okay well you know Aaron's overreacting Chelsea wanted to talk to Ivan and then when Chelsea finally comes back from

from wherever the hell she was this entire time she's like oh wait no I haven asked me to talk she tells that to Aaron as well and and then when when Ivan it's Chelsea talk about, he was like, the way he tried to get out of it was so funny. He was like, no. Oh, no, I just said like, you know, we had talked before. And you said we maybe had a connection. You just said there was maybe connections. And he really just dug himself in.

There was no way out. Right. And Chelsea is by far the most normal person on this show. Like her reactions to these things are like, she's there. She likes being on the show. I think she enjoys it. But as soon as someone starts to do like that paradise massaging of like, no, no, I didn't that I meant this other thing when they clearly

meant the other thing. She's like, okay. Yeah. This is stupid. Like you clearly just lied and now you're tripling down on it with me. Like that's just not going to fly. It did not work at all. We're going to the Rose ceremony. Wells comes in, says Ivan, we got to talk.

There's something that happened. Called to the office, yeah. Big time call to the office. Major principal vibes from Wells in this moment. They go sit out on the beach. And it was like such a classic, do you have anything you would like to tell me? Ivan's like, maybe? Yeah.

I feel like I might. Have you ever had that happen to you? Like where you get in trouble, but like they either a parent or like whatever person in charge is like, well, you got something to say for yourself? I think it definitely happened to me when I was younger and I would always say no. Yeah. Just like, nope. Yeah, I would always say. I would always say no too.

Actually. They're just singling me out for no reason. I'm the one who immediately like gives it up. Yeah. And they're like, that wasn't even what I was talking about. I just started naming everything I did wrong. Yeah. Yeah.

And they're like that good to know, but not what I brought you here for. You're in even more trouble than we thought. So Ivan confesses to being in the hotel during the evacuation. They were there one night because the rest of the group is like we were there one night. what could have possibly happened. No one, they all agreed that no one, he like didn't knock on any of their doors. Noah was his roommate.

He ain't a snitch. Noah was like, I don't know. I don't know. Had a very funny look on his face. I was like, I went to bed. I don't know. I don't know what happened.

I love Noah for that. Yeah. That's a class act. That's a good friend. That's a good friend. That's a good friend. Probably like trying to not get kicked on the show. Like I didn't know anything.

That's also true, but just like you got to respect that move because anybody or not anybody else in that situation, but there's a lot of people in that situation would have been like... Oh, on TV too, for sure. I heard some rustling around. I think I left the room. Yeah.

No, like you got to be ride or die there and that was good on Noah. Yeah, so Ivan says that in the room that there is a producer's phone or he saw a producer's phone and from that he saw the room that Alexa

was in from Peter's season. Alexa was on Peter's season. and that Alexa was someone that Ivan was hoping was going to be on Paradise, wanted to meet her. Here we are weeks in and she has not arrived yet. So he took matters into his own hands and decided to sneak over to her room and talk to her and hang out with her for a few hours before going back. Now, obviously production found out about this because they're addressing it during this row ceremony.

So we didn't just like completely sneak away. The whole thing is very fishy. Borderline doesn't make any sense at all. Yeah. Like I don't know what actually happened, but they're trying to tell us that he was, he just saw over someone's shoulder or the phone was laying it down open, which nobody does.

Which no one does. No one ever does. Especially a bachelor producer. And if they did do it, it was on purpose. Right. That I could believe. But even that it just feels like me, I think that.

maybe even they like gave them their phones back during the evacuation and then maybe they he DMed with Alexa and that's how they do it but they made him make up some sort of story about not it's it's too much I don't know what it is I don't know what the real story is but whatever we're getting is not the real story they thought the world was ending let's not forget the way they advertised this evacuation correct maybe Ivan in his head was like this is my last chance to get some I'm going in right I did see someone tweet about being like oh they spent all night out on the balcony during the hurricane that was going to wipe out paradise. Something does not add up. Something does not add up with this whole thing.

Yeah. I don't buy this story for one second. I don't really get it. And I know Ivan's very much like I hand up. I messed up. Like I broke the rules. I shouldn't have done that. I got sneaky. And I do believe he went to go see Alexa. But at this point it's like, well, was he set up? Was this for a little at it drunk? did the producers realize like, ooh, this storm isn't so bad. We just evacuated everyone. Now we got to like make something out of this. We got to get something out of this. The worst, the person I feel the worst for, and this is Alexa, because she straight up was like quarantining in a hotel for probably weeks.

Right. Meets the guy that I don't know if she had any interest in meeting him. Ivan just showed that he wanted to meet her. and that ruined her chance to even come on Paradise so we didn't even see her at all. That's it. She's not coming after this. They didn't really address that,

but it makes it clear that she clearly was told like, oh, you're not coming on the show now. Right. And the whole Ivan thing, the entire saga, not that big of a deal. Like in the grand scheme of things, like they really treated it like, oh, Ivan, you really, you did something horrible.

You're like, this is bad. Right. Right. He wasn't in a couple. He wasn't in a relationship. He clearly didn't do anything wrong besides you're not supposed to do that. Right. And the only other thing was like trying to get a rose from Chelsea.

Which he totally was trying to do. To extend his stay. Because he. So Alexa could then come down. Because he met Alexa. And that was a Brendan move. Yeah. Right.

That's like it's like one percent of what Brendan and Piper did. It's maybe even less than that. But like. Because it lasted for like six hours. Right. So the whole thing like I feel like in that moment, everyone on the beach was like, man, this is disappointing. Riley basically yelled at Ivan.

Riley chastised him for sure. Not that big of a deal. Yeah. You don't want to get yelled that by your friend like that. I expected more from you, bro. Also, I don't know if this makes me a bad friend or a good friend. I'm not really sure there's anything my friend could do that could make me yell at them like that. I don't, I'm not sure.

I don't know. I don't think. To be like, I'm really disappointed in you. I don't know if there's anything like that you could do. That would make me say to you, I'm really disappointed in you. Because, you know? There has to be something. I don't know.

I don't know. Like, as your friend, I would be like, well, she made that decision for a reason. And I'm just going to let her go through that and I'll support her. And also, like, if I'm in that situation, I'm going to do something stupid pretty soon after that. And I don't want them to tell me that they're disappointed. I didn't want to say that. But that's pretty much what I'm getting at. It's like, I'm not going to be disappointed.

You start telling people that you're disappointed in them, then that opens the door for them to tell you that they're disappointed. Exactly. I'm glad you said it and I didn't because that's where I was headed with that. Like, aren't we supposed to just disappoint each other and we kind of sweep it under the rug? Right. You say like, ah.

If you make it a joke, you shouldn't have done that. Yeah, well, we move on. Yeah. Yeah. And it's certainly what Ivan did, I don't think what Riley said to him seemed a little too much. But that's their friendship. Like your best pal, right?

If I'm Riley, to Ivan, I'm like, bro, that sucks. You got caught. Right. I'm not yelling at him. I'm like, damn. You got caught. That sucks. But who am I to fucking tell you?

You did something wrong like that. Yeah. Fair. Ivan goes home. That's the end for Ivan. The rose ceremony happens. All the couples match up like we expect. Natasha gives her rose to Ed.

And Chelsea gives her rose to. Aaron and Tia gives her rose to James. Like even if you murdered somebody, I'd help you. All right, let's lay it all up there. I was going to say, throw a scenario. Murder feels like maybe you should be disappointed in me. I would definitely be disappointed, but I'd help you bury the body. But you wouldn't.

You wouldn't tell her that you're disappointed. No, I wouldn't. In my head, I'd be like, damn, she fucking killed somebody. There has to be something. Because Franz and her head thinking like, oh my God, I killed somebody. Like what if I like, what if we, what if I pulled like a fucking Alex and Sophia and what? Well, then, yeah, I mean. No, no, no, but that's our friendship.

Yeah. It has to be outside of the friend. Of course if you did something to me personally. I'm, I'm more of the. I got you. If you did something to me personally, of course I'd be pissed at you. Okay. I was like, I there has to be something.

No, no. I mean, Frank, of course if you did something. I'm saying. Fran, if you punched Ria in the face, she'd be like, what the hell? I'd be like, yeah, I get it. No, I was like, where? No, no, no. Of course, if we personally dissoning to each other, I'd get up.

If you're saying if you were on the outside. If you did something to something else over, I got you. I'm on your side, baby. I got you. I got you. That's nice. That's a ride or die. Kind of a nice moment.

That's what that's called. Really nice. And Riley's, you know, still a ride or die, but just had to get that in. Yeah, no, they're still friends. Yeah. You got to have some people like that out there. 100%. Or it's chaos.

Or else you would be like, this is the end. 100%. Okay, so that means that Tamar went home, Dr. Joe went home, and Taddy Daddy Blake went home. He didn't stand a chance, I think, after he pulled that stick with Tia last week. Dr. Joe didn't stand a chance

after the Brendan thing, there was no way. The amount of times that that guy said, my Brendan. I wasn't here when you guys talked about that, but it was too much. Yeah, that was not going to work. and Jamar unfortunately did not really make a connection with anyone. He had that date with Chelsea,

but Chelsea clearly has stronger feelings for Aaron. And then after that, we just kind of had a lot of couple talk, right? So a lot of it was Kenny and Mari, which we'll talk about. But then there was also two new girls that came in. Anna came in and McKenna came in. Anna, we all remember Matt's season, the whole escort drama. Don't really know if she, like, needed to come to paradise, but she's here. And she wants to meet someone.

And at this point in time, there's so many established couples that everybody that she's pulling is like, I'm good, I'm good, I'm not going on a date, I'm not going to a date. she goes for James which you know smart after she talks to some of these other guys Thomas she spoke to who else did she speak to I'm gonna forget not Riley that was not Riley oh that was McKenna Thomas oh Kenny Kenny Kenny Kenny she pulled Kenny first Kenny Thomas James who's you know with Tia but not it doesn't seem like it's that serious. So they go on a date together

and their date was once again these kinky motherfuckers at AB, like these producers at Bastard and Paradise just continue to mix sexy and food together. It's been like multiple dates in a row now. Every episode. Yeah. We haven't got one episode

about it. Hungry and Horny were the producers. Yeah. This one was human Sure. So, yeah, that could be the name of your memoir. What was it? Hungry and Horny. The Maria Chiffo story. That's perfect. That really would be good.

But this one, I think we all like more than the, what were the taco date? 100%. I'm much more willing to cover myself in chocolate sauce and roll in some brown sugar than I am to get naked and have. someone form tacos on my body and then try and eat those tacos off my body. Right. Yeah, I agree. Sugar is the one.

That's what I want. I want to roll around in sugar. Even if it's not on a date, I just want to do that because sugar is so delicious. Like taco meat and sour cream, no. Yeah. No thank you. A little chocolate sauce.

You know. Yeah. Who that rubble little chocolate sauce on there? Yum. Yeah, getting a little crazy. I'm sure Anna has no trouble rubbing some chocolate. chocolate sauce all over James. You guys know I have a lot to say right now, but...

I'm waiting for you to say it. I can't because people get upset about how sexual I'm talking lately, so I'm trying to reel it in. I'm just... Give us one statement. I would love to roll Trent around as I'm sure. Thank you. Now we can move on. That's all you say.

Yeah, no, they do, and they had a good date. They seem like they like each other. And James, like, didn't really talk. to Tia, it seemed like there wasn't really a conversation afterwards. It just felt like maybe that was already over. It was over and we weren't going to worry about it. McKenna also came in, new person. What sucks for McKenna, because I don't think Anna was at that party.

She definitely wasn't. No. McKenna was at the VIP party that Titus threw. Yes. They forgot about that. So she like already came into this. party and met all these people and talked to them for that one night. And then only two of them went to paradise.

Like, only a few of them walked into the beach after that party. McKenna must have been forced to go back to the hotel and wait more days for her turn. Right. Why did the two- She only shows up for the parties? Why did the two show up? Like, what, they weren't picked by anyone, were they? I know.

I think producers just decided like, hey, we're going to. to send in Chelsea and Atlanta, right? Yep. Well, they had to send in Atlanta. We knew that was coming. Actually, kind of sounds like best case scenario for McKenna because she's probably just been at a very nice hotel for two weeks.

That has air conditioning. But you can't do anything. You can't go outside. You can't have your phone. You can't. I don't think so. When you're like, when you're locked in pre-show, you're like locked in your room. No way they can go outside.

Fran and I. were just in the process of going on the amazing race. And we were locked in a hotel room, no joke for seven days. We had to beg for one hour of time at the pool. Really? They gave us a schedule of when we were allowed to leave our room. Yeah. Holy shit for seven days.

And because they don't want you seeing any of the other people that are also possibly going to be on the show. Right. So like your dinner time is like 7 to 7.30 and you have to be gone because there are other people who are eating from 7.30 to 8. Shifts. You're not supposed to see each other. Yeah, it was wild.

We talked to psychiatrists. We got shots. We had a wild seven days. Wow. Just the two of us locked in one room together and no balcony or like windows that you can open. No. All right. That doesn't sound great if that's what McKinnell.

And that's definitely what's happening for the amazing race. That's what they're doing on a bachelor. 100%. That's what McKenna had to go right back to her room. Remember we were the producer offered to get us in and out? Yeah. Like some shady shit like that happens. Yeah.

Sounds like prison. Yeah, we're like, please. Yeah, postmates. And this guy was like, I can get you in. You're like train cigarettes for hamburgers. I was like, Ivan, I was going to do it. And then I was like, wait, I don't want to get in trouble. Yeah.

All right. I take it back. McKenna probably not, didn't have great stay. No, I don't really think she's probably dying to get down there. When she did, nobody wanted to go on a date. She's asking all these people. She asked Thomas. She asked Riley.

And then Aaron, who seemed interested. And McKenna comes up, she's like, Aaron, you know, you want to come on this date? He's like, yeah, let's go talk for a second. So it's like, yeah, yes, we're going to date. And then in the pre-date-ass conversation, she was just pulling him aside and he was like, oh, I kind of feel like there might be something here. And she was like, oh, I like your smile. And he said, I like your smile too.

And then she had the date card and was like, do you want to go on a date? He said, yeah, let's chat. And they went by the date. And he essentially said, no. in the weirdest way possible. Yeah, because it wasn't even like my feelings for Chelsea are so strong. No. No, it was like, I've just had a lot going on and like, I don't know what to think and I can't be going on this date right now.

So understandably, she's very upset. She's crying. Everybody's watching from up above being like she's crying. Yeah. Every other guy on that beach that she pulled aside and said, would you be interested in going on this date? They said no in a way that didn't make her cry. Yeah. And Aaron somehow couldn't figure that out.

Yeah, absolutely. That did happen. And then I don't know. I guess McKenna just initially had no interest in Ed. Didn't want to ask for the date. But Ed went down there and was like, don't leave. Like, I'll go on the date with you. And she was like, no, I'm going to leave.

He's like, oh, come on. What are you going to do one night? Like, you're not going to be able to get on a flight right now anyway. You might as well take the date. Yep. And see and have fun and see what happens. And it did seem like. like a tick a little bit of convincing.

It did. But they did go on the take together. That's my guy, Ed. He's a go-getter. He wants... It was very sweet, I thought. It was a very sweet moment. And as a long-time fan of Ed, it felt like a big payoff for me.

Because, yeah, it was very sweet. Yeah. How do we feel about Natasha, though? Because Natasha did give Ed her rose. That's Paradise. That's Paradise, baby. Yeah. I think it is.

Like, this whole season, there's been a lot of talk about, like, you know, Like people being wronged or whatever. A lot of it stem from Brendan and Piper. And in that situation, they were clearly in the wrong and Natasha was in the right. But a situation like this where Ed goes to McKenna and says, hey, I would go on that date and then ends up going with her and,

you know, leaving Natasha behind. That's paradise. Like you can't start getting mad at people just getting a rose from somebody else and then going on a date with a different person. Like that's just kind of, that's the process. Yeah.

You know what I mean? And I don't really like the. picture that's being painted of like Natasha never ending up with anybody it's like right I do think everyone is a little bit more hyper aware about Natasha just because of how the season's gone for her so I do agree with you on that that I think it was like oh god Natasha again

right um I did it was anyone else to be like oh they didn't even really know each other it's becoming like Connor like the kissing and and he just down bad and week after week right yeah yeah I just I just don't want us to get to a place with this show where just because someone gives you a rose the week before doesn't mean that you can't then like go on a date with somebody else. Right, because then Paradise just wouldn't exist. That's right.

It would just be like, all right, let's have one episode, whoever you end up with. That's it. That's it. Yeah, like people get invested in these, you know, short-term relationships a little bit because we like the people. We like Natasha. But if Ed wants to go on a day with McKenna, that's Paradise. Yeah. I think you guys are, I think you guys are right.

Ed. And I feel like maybe Ed had an attraction to. McKenna or wanted to pursue McKenna, which is why he put himself out there like this. And they went on this date and it was rollerblading. They were just like rollerblading. It's go rollerblading. Honestly, it looked fun. I like rollerblading.

But rollerblading just reminds me of like my middle school roller blading parties. Shout out United Skates. Yeah, shout out Flor and Park. I cannot believe. I cannot think. Oh, Super Skate in Cedar Rapids. Yeah. It's an old building.

I think it's still there. Nobody knows how it's still in business. I'm hitting up United Skates. Nobody goes there. I don't know if my place I went to is open anymore, but arguably mine has the best name. Wait, what were the names again? United Skates. Yeah, that's a good one.

We don't like Super Skate. Yeah, wait, get it, United Skates. No, I got it. No, I got it. No, it definitely is. And if you guys saw like the outside of the logo is second. Red, white and blue. But, oh, God.

I know. I don't think so. Feels like a mess. We would have those skate nights. Would you? guys do um skate nights and someone would ask to hold your hand poppin would you guys do uh limbo at yours oh we did everything okay everything absolutely i felt exposed there for half a second no and it's hard and i'm sure you're yours as well had um like arcade games yes yep and the pizza oh the pizza

the the open the glass pretzel guys and and you go and you'd rent your skates and you you get out there. We always did like some kind of there's all this candy and stuff too. I loved it. You fucking love skate parties. No, it's awesome. Our skate parties were so fun. And we had we had a name for it. Now I'm really like. Oh, so did we. Nothing better than the whole crew getting together to go to

United Skates. So great. Super Skate. You lace them up. You get out there, you rip around. There's always a couple people who were way better at limbo than everybody else and it made me angry. Also just that rollerblading in general. Like I'm really not a good roller blater. So I went just for like the atmosphere. The social scene. Yeah, the social scene, the pizza, the arcade game. Oh, you always wanted to see like who was holding hands.

Yeah. And whatnot because that was like the biggest deal. Who was skating around to Brian McKnight? Yeah. That's when you knew. You played the good songs. Because most people would come off of the rink. Off of the rink.

Is that what you call? The rink. Yeah. The rink, even if it's not ice? Yeah. The skate rink. Yeah, they would come off. But then like people would stay out there and be the couples and Brian McKnight would play.

You ever one of them? Yeah, of course. Come on. Nice. Come off. Sick. I don't want to put on some roller base. They were the best.

Which is why it's just... We should. We should. We should. Okay. Which is why it's funny. Let's go to United Skates. Tentatively, we will go skating.

Yes. I think that... But it is funny, though, because seeing that, seeing this as a date, like, immediately made me think of that where I was like, wow, that's romance. Because I think back in middle school, is like that was the most romantic thing you could do

is the hold hands of someone on the rink. Yeah. Or going to the haunted house with somebody. Yep. Yeah, that's a good one too. That's when you knew. That is a good one too. At Adventureland, it was,

if you're like, you know, becoming a thing maybe, possibly, there's a crush there. You're going into the haunted house. Yeah. If you're a real deal couple, log flume. Woo! Log flume. Wow.

Wow. Because the log flume was, everybody rode the log flume at night because it was way sicker to do the log flume at night for some reason I don't know why. And, yeah. Childhood is weird. It is.

God, I miss it. It comes back fast. Yeah, I don't really miss it about. This date for McKenna and Ed went well, though. I think, you know, they sat down and I was like, you had a good time, right? She's like, yeah. So it seems like, you know, maybe there is more of an attraction there than she thought or she was just maybe more impressed with Ed than she had anticipated, I would say.

I feel like people probably have low expectations for Ed. Before you're going on a day with him, you're like, what's this guy going to be about? Yeah, he's a sweet guy. Definitely. We have to talk about Kenny and Mari. They are just up, down, all around. One second, they're great, and the next second they're not.

Mari was worried because he wasn't, like, being as physical with her, and then he was worried that she wasn't at the same level as him. And so they were just kind of, like, off or something was off. And I think it was Mari, who's, tried to claim that she had set this up or something, but, you know, obviously that's not how this actually happened, but they had a priestess come and sit down and, like, perform this whole ritual for them to reconnect, and they were talking about, you know, the reasons why they love each other. And anytime, like, you're in a little bit of a, not even necessarily a rut, perhaps,

but, like, you actually have to look at the person and be like, these are all the reasons why I love you. Really, it helps. It's like, oh, wow, I really do love this person and it did seem to help them. Yeah, I do think the ceremony or whatever you want to call it. I think it worked for them. Because like you're saying, it was very like, you know who could use that? Abigail and Noah at some point along the line.

For sure. They needed to be put in a situation where they were like forced to actually spit out their feelings. Even just look at each other. Look each other in the eyes. Look each other in the eyes. They're always just laying down and sort of sleepy. Yeah, I think, yeah, Kenny and Mari, they've been the most confusing couple throughout this whole season.

But I also think that makes them the most real couple, or at least up there with the most real couple, just because they've gone through actual, like, struggles. Yeah. But yeah, like, I thought Kenny was going to go on the date with Anna when she asked him because he had told Mari right before that, like, I'm just like not feeling it. It's not his physical.

Like something's not there. But then they had this ceremony, and it seems like things are back on track. There was a funny moment where, you know, I actually think we were in the bathroom, but Trent this woman came in and Trent was like

ooh a princess I was like she said priestess I thought she said princess I thought she said princess. Oh I'm sad I missed that I would have bought princess I would have believed

if I had been watching by myself in my apartment I would have treated something about like oh we got a princess we got a princess and she's about to just spiritually heal these two and make it all better

the opposite of that is what you were saying before we get into prom night was Abigail and Noah before they were talking about how all the other couples are saying they fallen in love with each other and they're reaching these points and Abigail's talking to Wells like I just don't really know quite where we're at and Wells like explained it really well you know he's like I think you know Noah's just trying to hear back from you wants you to express yourself tell him how you really feel I think you guys are really great for each other

She gets out of vice and then Noah says, you know, I feel like I'm falling in love with you. And she just appears to not answer at all. She froze. Not a single word. Mortifying for Noah. Yeah, it was. And it was weird too because like we said, and we're talking about this already. But they're having these conversations.

And I don't know if maybe just this level of emotional intimacy is really hard for both of them. they are not looking at each other in their face like in their eyes ever like they're having these serious conversations and they're and I know it's easier because look I have certainly been there before where I've had something very serious and scary to say to someone and I'm like I gotta look over there while I say this because I can't look them in the eyes right but

this is like a good thing like I'm falling in love with you is a good thing so he says it he's not looking at her You never want someone to be like, I'm falling in love with you and they're looking over here. No. Because usually when you're looking over here, you're like, I think we should end this. Right. But like, I'm falling in love with you.

I'd be like, no, you're not. If you're falling in love with me, you'd be looking at me in the eye because you love me. Yep. Yeah, exactly. So it was awkward. Isn't it weird how eye contact is such a, the person's going to hear it anyway. No matter if you're looking at them or not looking at them, they're going to hear what you're going to say. Yeah, I wonder what that is where, like, you just can't look at them.

and they can't be looking at you. Yeah. That's strange. But no one and Abigail certainly have that problem. The whole season. Yeah. Every conversation they've had, no one's been pretty much asleep, and they've been laying on those daybeds just looking at the sky like,

what do you think's going on in our relationship? I don't know. I hope it works out. You know, be more open with me. And it's just, it felt like, unfortunately, and I know we'll get to it at the prom, but like maybe a long time coming where they just hadn't talked enough about it. Definitely. Big night for everyone in paradise.

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Obviously, Joe's was the best. Don't have to. Don't have to tell you guys. We are now entering the Joe portion of the episode. We are. I've almost exhausted all my love for me tonight. Like, I put out so much love for Joe. Yeah.

That by the time we got to this podcast, it's one in the morning right now. Yeah. I'm a little sleepy, but I'll say this. I fucking love Joe I love Joe It's coming back I

I love Joe So much it pains me I'm feeling You ever get that feeling You feel something so hard It hurts Yeah I'm feeling that towards grocery store Joe She started to cry

During Joe's promposal Like this They were actually like 17 year olds going to prom Because I've never been asked to prom Mainly because my school didn't allow a prom because we went to a private Catholic school

and there was a whole bunch of nonsense of years prior so then they stopped doing prom. We had a thing called Senior Sundoff where we rode around on a boat in New York City you couldn't bring a date. So I didn't have prom. Yeah, whatever. Same diff, but no date.

Never been asked through prom. Imagine in grocery store Joe asking me to prom, made me emotional. You know, that is really mean because it's just like depriving kids of a prom. It's depriving kids of a natural thing. Like make, if,

If something's going so wrong, make some rules. Shamanah did it right because they had the same boat party that we did, except they were allowed to bring dates and it's called aqua prom. Yeah. So we had the same thing as aqua prom except no dates. Aquaprom. It's a great name. I love that name. I wanted to go to aqua prom so bad.

So instead they just threw a bunch of single people on a boat for you guys. Yeah. And you just went around New York City. And we ran out. There is so much. It was a co-ed high school. Yeah. A lot of teachers around couldn't do anything.

Yeah. But of course we had the after party at somebody else's house. Come on. Yeah. Slept there. Of course, Ria had a little sex after. Anyways, grocery store Joe. I love him so very much.

And Serena as well, though. I don't want people to think that I'm just going after Joe here because I'm not. I really love them as a couple. I'm rooting for them wholeheartedly. I want Kendall to leave them alone because it seems like she's coming back. You're having like a big. Zach C and Tasha grand moment.

Like I love Zach C so much. Everyone was like, oh, you love Zach? I was like, no, I really love Zach and Tasha together like a lot. And yes, I also do really love Zach. I love Joe personally very much.

Yes. Very much. Yes. But I really love Serena. And then as a couple, and then as a couple, and I'm rooting for them so hard. They're great.

Yeah. 100%. So we're headed to the prom. Everybody's in these ridiculous 80s outfits. They honestly crushed it. If you're going to do an 80s prom, you gotta go all out.

I'm glad they didn't like half ass it. Everybody was in the dresses and the hair and the suits and all everything. The earrings that these guys, fake earrings these guys were wearing. It was all great.

And it's full on, you know, the music is playing. They're dancing. Everyone's having a good time except Tia because she's there without a date. Natasha conveniently not feeling well.

So she's skipping the prom. And And Tia is just there and her like, you know, it just felt like a, why am I forgetting the name of the movies. Greece. 16 candles. Yeah, but the director who makes all those movies. Noah, you definitely know who I'm talking about.

Who makes all the, you know, pretty and pink 16 candles. John. No, I'm. Travolta. No. No. No. No, no, no, no.

You're about to name John Cryer right now. Yeah, I know, I know what, I know the name and it's going to bother me that I'm not to say. Breakfast Club. Yes. I'm going to look at it because I don't know. Oh, Well's like one of my tweets. I mean, we're going to be really upset. This is why, this is what happens when we record so late.

You're looking for the director? Oh, yeah. Jesus. John Hughes. John Hughes. God damn it. Now I, now I even know what we're talking about. Yes.

I felt like I was watching a John Hughes. movie of Tia just like being the odd man out at the prom, nobody to dance with. Aaron, of all people, decides it's up to him to pull Chelsea aside. I'm not Chelsea, Tia aside and use this moment to tell Tia like, hey, you know, this process coming into an end, just, you know, got to put this all out on the table, got you this corsage. He doesn't really say too much. Like he hands are the corsage. And then they just kind of start making out like rabbits.

Yeah. Bro, I got you this corsage. Yeah. They just start going at it. It was as easy as that. Tia was clearly in a vulnerable state. Right. She's alone.

She's probably, you know, everybody's drinking at the prom. And then here comes Aaron. And they just start going at it. I love the way you say Aaron's name in total disgust. Yeah. Yeah. I've just had way too much. him this season.

It just came out of left field, really did not see that happening at all. Chelsea's confused. Chelsea was like, I mean, I'm actually starting to have some strong feelings for him. Just felt like it did not make any sense whatsoever. But that happened. They come back and then Wells gets on stage and they did superlatives. Best. Kisser was one.

Of feet. Most flirt. Oh, kisser of feet. Marissa. Went to Marissa, yes. flirt was Kenny and then you know most likely to end up together or live happily ever after or whatever it was

end up together in real life and that went to Noah and Abigail and the whole episode did kind of have a theme of these two being like everybody's talking about how we're this amazing couple and I don't know if we're actually there and it just feels like maybe there's a lot of outside pressure for them or people thinking like

Noah and Abigail they've been together from the beginning So, like, they're, they're totally going to leave this thing together. They're so set, which is when we start to see, oh, excuse me, skipping over. Obviously, prom king and queen go to Joe and Serena. Of course. Almost just skipped over. I thought maybe we were working our way up to it. No, no, I want to celebrate.

I know, I know. But we got to save because, you know, no one, Abigail happened after. But Joe and Serena. That picture of Joe. A beautiful prom king and queen. Nearly took me out. Yeah, it did. It did take me out, actually.

I fell over. There's a picture of you with that little crown on his head. And I believe I get it. Just added something that there aren't really words to describe it. Yeah, that crooked crown and that smile of his. What is the word to describe a word that you can't describe? Indescribable. I think that's right.

I think that's right. Nailed it. That's right. I think that's the word. Fran, that's the one. That's the one. Oh, God, I just snorted. That's the one.

I really thought I had something. That's the one. I was like, this is about to be groundbreaking. Yeah. Indescribable. You're saying that the way that Joe made you feel indescribable. It's indescribable.

Certainly. I can see that. And it was. They look great up there with the crowns. They did. They really did look fantastic. We love them so much. We knew they had to win.

Like if anybody else won, the fix was in. I actually for a split second thought it might go to Riley and Marissa. I could have seen that for half a second. But Joe and Serena, they are the couple of Paradise right now. Definitely. Definitely. And then that is when the episode is ending. we see Noah pull Abigail and basically tell her, you know, I've had some doubts and I worked

myself up to to this point thinking like, I really want to make it work for you, work with you. But like, is the relate, like, are my feelings really like that strong? Or is it just because, you know, you're such a great person? And I want to. like you will like I want to love you and I know like I love you as a person but like am I in love with you doesn't seem like it and then he hit her with I just don't think you're my person which is hard so that's like mean mean that's not mean that that's the one issue I'm having with you about this whole situation because I get we I just think there's a way to break up with her without using the phrase I just don't think you're my person but

But I think that is like the most kind of respectful way to go about it being like, I love you as a person on, I think you're great. I think all the quality, you're not a bad person at all. All the qualities about you are awesome. But you are not for me. Right. It's like what else is you going to say? I'm just not in love with you.

And that's a meaner. They all hurt. They all hurt. It feels the most honest, unfortunately. Yeah. And it does suck because, you know, we did see literally the night before Noah say, like, I am falling in love with you. And, you know, there was no response there. So maybe that influenced this. But rightfully so, Abigail is like, well, what happened between then and now? And if you have had those feelings, like, why did you say that to me? Or like, why didn't you bring this up earlier? Because now I'm. she had said she was feeling really blindsided and it just he was very emotional he did seem upset about it Abigail also upset about it and I don't know it did feel like it did feel like this

is maybe where that relationship was headed just because there were so many times this season that one of them or both of them were like I don't really know what the other person's thinking and we're not communicating that well and communication is key. No communication. Your relationship is going to fail. I agree. I think the signs were there. Yeah.

And if they really wanted to get where they thought they were going to go, they had to have those conversations along the way. Instead of having it bubble up and then every once in a while being like, oh, I really like you. Yeah. Should we try to keep doing this or should we not? Yeah, let's keep doing it. Those aren't like real conversations.

Those are just like band-aids on a bigger problem. So it all boils up to the top by the end And then Noah says, I'm falling in love with you, gets nothing, probably sends him into a bit of a spiral And then he, you know, blindsides Abigail like she said the next night.

It just didn't feel like it was going to work. Unfortunately, because I think everybody liked them as a couple. From what we saw didn't really seem like they ever had that From what we saw, they could have actually, you know, had that much of like a really deep, conversation that had a lot of

meaning. Like Marissa and Riley had this conversation two weeks ago. Kenny and Mari even too if I feel like have just hit a different level. Totally. And Joe and Serena it seems like, I don't know,

Joe and Serena seems so confident they're just going to make it work through like, yeah, you know, the plan is beginning of our relationship, we just, we go back and forth, we want to see each other and that's, we'll be good. That makes the most sense. Yeah. I think that,

Abigail and Noah, it was kind of just like some people you have like a real connection with or you just have a fling. And I think for Noah and Abigail was like they had a little crush, a little fling but they're not like totally obsessed with each other. And I think on paper they probably did really think that they would work and it just

wasn't quite there. I just don't really know where Abigail was at because like how emotionally invested in it was she that, because she hasn't really voiced it. So like did she really, really like him and now like she's getting heartbroken or like did she also kind of have some doubts we're not really sure she did say to the camera that she was going to say that yeah right that she was falling in love with no so i guess that's a little bit of an inside look but is that because noah said

it the night before there's certainly probably part of that like we never really did get a full re-on i think her feelings were there and she was just sometimes too afraid to talk to know about them completely but we're going to see how that totally ends next week we have the three-hour finale coming up next week another three hour episode it looks like we're going to get a lot it's the end here folks so we're going to get some proposals probably some breakups

and who do you think Kendall's showing up again yeah who do you think go home go home which do you think the fact that Kendall's just been sitting like in the hotel they're bringing her back again how many couples and which ones do you think end in a proposal

I'm going Joe and Serena Yep Riley and Marissa Hmm Three good three Yeah Kenny and Mari I'm going with those three

I'm going to say engaged Or a proposal happens I think Becca and Thomas are still together Noah and Abigail Seem like they're over And the rest I don't think anybody's serious enough in the rest of the group.

I can also weirdly see Serena and Joe not getting engaged and just like being the happiest couple in the world as they leave the beach. I mean, yeah, that's, that is what, that is what, I don't know why I just called him grocery store, Joe, that is what Joe is his name. I know, but we've, I feel like we've repassed it. Joe's not thought of it. Yeah, I feel like Joe did that already. Yeah.

You know, not that that's a reason why he would get engaged. this time around, but he knows that that also is an option because, you know, he did it for two years after he was on the show. I think Marissa and Riley are no doubter. Yeah, they seem like ready. Those who are getting married. Yeah.

Yeah. They seem ready. The way they're talking about it, they seem super ready for this. And it does kind of feel like Kenny and Mari are very honest and open with each other and are like keep actually talking about an engagement. So there is unfortunately usually one couple that just breaks your heart.

Yeah. That just completely split right at the end. Yeah. I'm trying to think of the one for the last couple of years. But there's always one where it's like. I mean, I think that's Abigail and Noah, but there could be another one. If I had to pick one, that would be Kenny and Mari, I think. Yeah.

I think that's right. I don't really. I think that's kind of it, right? Yeah, I think so. So we will be back next week to recap the finale. We'll see who's in love. Who's not, but at least the three of us are back together. That's really all that matters.

Yeah, that's all we need in mind.