Chicks in the Office - Raquel Lied to Us + Hannah Brown Interview
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This is state of emergency.
What's up, everyone?
It's Chicks in the Office with Brian Fran, giving you that Friday energy on a Monday.
Everybody knows why they're tuning into this episode.
Let's just be honest.
We're going to get right into it.
Raquel was in this studio on,
Wednesday left and sent
Coochie shots straight to Tom Sandoval
and things blew up.
That's basically what had
transpired. We're really
getting right into it. Not even a
split second intro.
I don't even think we need an intro.
I think people are turning this episode on. They don't
give a fuck what we did this weekend.
They just want to know what
our take is on this Vanderpump stuff.
Okay. Go right ahead then.
I mean, I know that you enjoyed some snow
this weekend. I did. I kind of
wanted to talk about how awesome my snow weekend was, but, you know, people probably don't want to
hear about that. So we can just get, we can just talk right about Vanderpump. That's fine with me.
I've just, we've gotten so many messages. People can't wait for this freaking episode. And so I think
we just get right into it because I think it has consumed everybody's week and weekend in a way
that it's, I'm actually sort of grateful that the Selena and Haley stuff has kind of been put aside because we,
everybody's focusing on something else.
Basically,
to clear things up, by the way,
we had Raquel and Sheena here Wednesday afternoon to record.
We were sent screeners to watch Thursday's episode of Vanda Pump
Roles.
So people were confused Wednesday.
So people were confused how we were able to watch the episode.
Like, they didn't know when this happened.
Yeah.
We recorded that interview Wednesday afternoon.
They went to watch what happens live Wednesday night.
Tom Sandoval had a show Wednesday.
Wednesday night. Allegedly,
Ariana picked up Tom Sandoval's phone,
fell out of his pocket, apparently,
and saw some dirty, dirty videos
from Raquel to Sandoval,
and things really blew up.
Apparently, you know, after Watch What Happens Live,
they went to a bar.
Sheena found out because Ariana was calling her,
was calling Raquel.
allegedly Sheena punched Raquel in the face.
Yeah.
I've heard that that was a push.
I've heard that there was a push.
I don't know necessarily if there was a full-blown punch.
Some sort of altercation transpired.
And Raquel and Tom Sandoval have allegedly been having an affair for seven months now.
Insanity.
Insane.
It was a shocking development for the week.
and I think everyone was talking about it.
So for those that don't watch Vanderpump rules,
this is a fairly juicy scandal regardless of if you watch or not.
For those that do not watch and have no idea who we are talking about,
the bare minimum background is that Tom Sandoval and Tom Schwartz have been on this show for forever.
Tom Sandoval has been with Ariana for eight years.
They lived together.
They are totally, you know, they've totally combined their lives.
And Sandoval used to date Kristen Doty.
He cheated on her with Ariana.
He and Ariana have been together since then.
And now he has been with Raquel, allegedly for these past seven months.
Raquel came onto the show as James Kennedy's significant other.
They were dating for quite some time.
they were engaged, they were going to get married.
Tom Sandoval is the one that paid for James Kennedy's entire proposal to Raquel.
He funded the whole event.
And then Raquel and James broke up.
The drama on the show that you heard us talking to Raquel and Sheena about this whole season
has been about Raquel possibly having some feelings towards Schwartz,
Tom Schwartz, who's just getting out of a divorce.
and he was also with somebody that was in the group, that's Katie,
and when in reality it feels like Schwartz has just kind of been taken the fall
for whatever's been going on.
Now, Sandoval put out a statement where he's claimed that Schwartz did not really know
this was happening until recently, but whether you believe that or not is up to you.
It's just been so crazy to go.
back now because they have done so much press for this new season.
And to watch Tom and Tom, who've done a ton of press together, talk about Schwartz and
Raquel and what's going on, or the old videos.
Raquel was going to all of Tom Sandoval's shows.
Tom Sandoval's the lead singer of a cover band.
And Raquel's been going all of his shows.
and you see them talk about this,
even just going back for us
and listening to what Raquel said to us
on Wednesday was crazy.
And you know, I will say,
so Ria and I, we finished that interview
and they left.
And we, Ria and I together, we were like,
she, oh, like, I feel bad.
Maybe interviews are hard for her.
Like, she was so nervous.
She was shaking, literally vibrating.
She was, vibrating.
She was vibrating in the chair.
And she kept looking at Sheena, and she was really, really thinking about what she was saying.
And she was kind of tripping over her words.
And now I'm just under the impression that she had some idea that the ball was going to drop.
Like something was going to happen because I think people were starting to find out.
I don't know if anybody's known for like a really long time.
I know Dumas said she heard something a week or so ago.
So if that, if rumors started to swirl around then, Raquel and Sandoval probably had some idea maybe that this was imminent.
Like they were going to have to tell people or something was going to happen.
And for it to be found out in that way, like for Ariana to find videos on Tom's phone on Wednesday night is it's so crazy.
and like over the top drama where you are shocked that they it almost like it's like how could this be
happening and they weren't filming at the time but when when they found out this happened everyone was like
the production company was like we got to boost on the ground get the cameras rolling so apparently
they've ordered in another additional episode to go at the end of this season that we're watching
right now yeah the whole thing is so so so sickening like
everything that's been laid out now.
There's so many different stories coming out now that this has been going on since July.
Apparently Tom and Raquel have been wearing matching necklaces.
Lightning bolts.
I feel like we have to redo our whole logo.
Like we have to like rethink everything.
We can't be the lightning bolt girls now.
I know.
We don't want to be matching with them.
But they've kind of been hiding in plain sight, which is just so fucking sickening that
Raquel and Ariana has been treating Raquel.
like such a great friend this season.
You know, we've seen clips up Ariana being like,
I'm loving Raquel, like, I'm loving this like single girl life she's living.
And Raquel, I used to think it was just an airhead.
Like I was like, all right, there's just, you know, Lala always says it.
But I feel like if you watch a show, you'd be like, you know,
Raquel is just kind of a ditsy girl like da da da da going about her life.
Like, no, she's straight up not a great person.
Like you, there is no way that you can do that to somebody that you call.
one of your best friends.
Like she's been going around calling Ariana one of her best friends.
It's absolutely sickening.
And Tom Sandoval, I mean, he, I've never been a fan of Tom Sandoval, ever, ever.
I was always like there's something off with this guy.
Always.
I'm just not really a fan of him.
What scum of the earth?
I know.
Like truly vile human being as low as you can get, actually.
The fact that he was.
sneaking around with Raquel in their home, just in general, just living his life,
living this lie is actually as sickening and vile as it gets for these two human beings.
And I mean, Raquel, obviously, she is really not bright and really, really awful what
she's doing to someone she's so-called her best friend.
But Tom, I don't even have words.
Like, I don't even have words for how vile of a human being.
I think Tom Sandibal is for doing this to Ariana.
And also his friends and family and everybody.
Like, he has.
He fucked over everyone.
His life and fucked over everybody in his life because of these acts.
In what world did these two not think they were going to get caught?
What was the plan here?
Were they just going to keep going?
And then one day, Tom, you know, because apparently it was like Tom just said, you know,
he couldn't figure out how to end it.
Like, what did you think was going to happen?
I do not understand.
I think it's so sick.
I think this is actually like how some people get off.
Like, I think Raquel and Tom in a sick way were like enjoying this because apparently
they were going on dates with like wearing disguises and things.
I mean, it's truly, truly mind boggling.
When I saw the TMZ report when it first came out, I was like, no, there's no way.
I was like somebody has to be like fucking with them because they hate right.
No.
Like this is just, oh my God.
I can't even imagine being Ariana right now.
Like I feel so awful for her.
But I also don't want I don't want people to now see Ariana as like the girl who got cheated on.
Right.
Like I think Ariana is going to thrive and become like the best person ever without Tom Sandoval.
I think she should have dumped Tom Sandoval years ago.
Totally.
And I think she's.
going to be like living the best version of herself. But I don't want people to always just be like,
you know, Ariana was the girl who got cheated on. Like I hope that doesn't become the case.
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I never understood their connection, truly.
Like, Sandival just does not do it for me.
He just seems like such a narcissist.
And maybe that's why he and Raquel work
because, you know, everybody always joked on the show.
It was like, ah, the joke was Raquel is like this super fan
and she made her way onto the show.
And she started to date James and, like,
she kind of infiltrated this group.
And now it's like, what,
these two do for attention,
I mean, Tom Sandoval
dressed up as Raquel
for Halloween.
Oh my God. And in that point, and if
what is true, and this has been happening
since around July,
they were sleeping together, and he, like,
and then there was, there's been a bunch of stuff
on Reddit, whether people are claiming to be
friends of Raquel, people are claiming to be
friends of Ariana posting stuff. But
somebody had said, you know,
know, Raquel would sleep in the guest room or like in literally in the house and Tom would go
into the room with her and Ariana would be in the other room. Like it's so that is so
fucking disgusting. It just makes her, it absolutely makes my skin crawl. It is so insane. And like I
said, like they they, it's, it's crazy that it was really like it was almost now looking back. It's like,
Oh my God, was this so obvious that we just thought there's no way this could be true?
Like, now looking back, it's like, oh, my God, they were just doing this all right under our noses.
It's really one of the most insane things to happen, I think, in the reality TV world.
Granted, there have been so many crazy things that have happened on Vanderpump rules.
For the people who have not watched Vanderpump, like, this is par for the course, like the beginning.
You know, Jacks was dating Stasi and Kristen was dating Tom.
and Kristen and Stasi were best friends
and Kristen fucked Jacks
who was Stasi's boyfriend
like she fucked her best friend's boyfriend
and then Jacks hooked up with Kristen
and Jax's best friends with Tom
and Tom was cheating on Ariana like this was all happening
this is just a lot crazier
I think this is as crazy as it gets for this show
there's so many more high stakes
that go into this like they're also older
like they're grown ass adults now
like when they were doing that
like they were in their 20s like crazy
shit. They're adults now. Like they are established
adults. I've seen a lot of people talking about the differences because there's a lot of people
being like, oh, not a lot of people, but some people have been like, you know, they all,
they all cheated on each other. Why is anybody acting like this is different? This is a lot,
you know, cheating is never, never good ever. But this is a lot different when it comes down to
all the things of Ariana and Tom, buying a house together, living together, being together for
eight years. Raquel and Ariana being really good friends.
You know, like there's just so many other levels to this.
The fact that Schwartz has been, like the whole story has been about Raquel and Schwartz
and Schwartz is just like, Schwartz, get a fucking backbone my guy.
Like, stand up for something.
If Schwartz really did know about this for a while, I just, I cannot deal with his
just uselessness.
Sorry, the cappuccino machine is making some people.
funky noises. Oh, I can't hear it. Don't worry. Okay, good. Yes, I think Schwartz, if he's been taking
the fall for this, he's a little bitch. Like, he is just straight up a little bitch. How are you
going to take the fall? I, part of me goes in back and forth between Schwartz obviously knew because
he's Tom his best friend and Schwartz maybe just found out recently. I have no idea. I mean,
listen, I think everything should be towards Tom and Raquel right now. Like, I don't think that
Schwartz is a problem
and Ariana did say
this season Schwartz does get a lot
away with a lot of things and of course he's
if he knew he's part of this problem
Sandoval is straight up a horrible human being
like there is no way around it
he is just a vile human being
I was gonna say so oh
like you said
them when they first started the show
and they were like in their early 20s
and they were all fucking each other
and like doing crazy shit it was like
they had just started a reality
There's no excuse for it.
Obviously, they were fucking terrible.
But they were just starting reality show.
They were like nude to this like Hollywood fame.
Like it's it doesn't excuse it, but you can see more now like, all right, they were being
really dumb and they were like into their fame.
Yeah.
And none of those relationships were going to last because they were, they were all toxic and
they were on and off all the time.
This was like two people who were not married, but were basically married.
Yeah.
Like they, they decided.
to live their lives together and it seemed like they were, you know, the long haul,
like they were going to do this forever. So. And I just think it's just off. I just cannot believe
the amount of times we are now seeing Raquel posing with Ariana, wearing these necklaces.
Yeah. It's, it's sickening. It's absolutely sickening. It is. And, and Sandoval, too, is also,
it's just like such little bitch behavior that you, if, if it really is like, oh,
there was just never the right time.
Ariana was always going through something.
Like I couldn't break up with her.
The second that the plot, like a big plot of the show,
was Ariana not really wanting to have kids
and Tom wanting to have kids.
And ever since that happened, it was like,
well, this is going to become a major issue down the line.
But it's like neither of them would break up with each other.
but this is just like such the cowards way out and to claim that you know there hasn't been one time in the last
seven months of you hooking up with Raquel that there hasn't been like a oh you know maybe maybe this
needs to come to an end and it's crazy that the rest of the season that's on right now another
part of this is like a rumor going around that they're in an open relationship and and so it's like
they're freaking out about people saying that they're in an open relationship
and they're like, we're not in an open relationship.
And he's just, he, like, it's so, it's so psychotic.
And Raquel, like, now, I don't know, there's been so many different posts and stuff.
I will say, I watched Watch What Happens Live Wednesday night, live.
And there was a moment where they were playing a game and Shina and Raquel to give out their
answers at the same time.
And Andy said, who's hotter?
Schwartz or Sandoval?
And both of them said Sandoval.
And Raquel, like, kind of said it.
and Sheena looked at her like, what?
And it was just like, it's just the girl, I don't know, I don't know.
And you know, I should have been the number one red flag.
I know, I never loved Lala being like, this girl's so dumb like this whole thing.
It felt, it felt mean.
But now it's just like, what is going on up there?
And now Dumas posted this whole long thing that she like had fired her PR team.
Now she has crisis PR and she's going to spin this as she was the victim.
and like just Tom took advantage of her and like really just playing the dumb card and that she didn't know now she's going to end it and she was she's so sorry and all this stuff which is so transparent anybody with a brain can see right through that plan so it's really just like a very stupid move and also it's like she'll do anything to save her image right now I'm like you're just yes the entire like we're all talking about it because it's such a crazy scandal in six months from now it's not going to be.
a huge thing because like
I don't, I feel like
we're calling she's Jennifer Anderson right now.
Like you're not, you know, like, and
it's just, it's, and which is
probably exactly what she wanted. Like, if this is
really been the fame, like, she's
wanted to get that fame, there's
also other posts that her family's tried to
like reach out to her and
she doesn't care. People are saying that Tom
Sanival has shown no remorse
that he does not care at all. He's actually
trying to like blame Ariana for all of this.
It's so, it's
mind-blowing. Sandival's statement that he put out was such a little weasel statement because he was like,
oh, my businesses, wah, where, where, I have employees. It's like, yeah, maybe you should have
thought about that before you did this. And of course, like, you know, do I feel bad for Greg,
his partner who has seen like a real crumajun all this whole season? Now, yeah, I do. Like,
and there's been some funny comments back from the Schwartz and Sandy's Instagram.
account, but it's been Greg.
And, like, they've tagged sports.
I've seen a couple of comments where Greg has commented back at people of someone
being like, yeah, Greg, like, must not be happy about this.
And, like, it was like a reply that just said, yeah, I would say I'm definitely not
thrilled, like, dash Greg.
Like, it's just, so it absolutely sucks for these people because the 100% like is their
business.
But for Sandbalt, Sanibal to put out that statement and to mention the restaurant and Schwartz
and then just end it with sorry for everything.
It was like no mention of Ariana.
It was insane.
Sorry for everything.
His main focus of that post was Schwartz, which is insane.
And people have seen that for so long now with Vanderp.
Like, you know, Tom and Tom, like they should just be together at this point.
Yeah.
And to me it seems like Schwartz was probably freaking the fuck out being like, bro, you put me in a
horrible position.
Everyone's coming after me now.
And, you know, that's, that's on Schwartz himself too.
Like, if he knew and he didn't speak up to his friend and say, you got to get your life
together.
Like, I think that's another thing where if Sandoval went to Schwartz and was like, you know,
I'm fooling around with Raquel.
It's not working between Ariana.
You have, as a friend, have to speak up and say, you need to break up with Ariana immediately.
Like, I'm going to.
be straight up with you. Okay, you're not happy in your relationship. That's okay to not be happy in your
relationship, but you must end the relationship. You cannot continue to hurt someone like that.
Like it's, I just, you live together. You can have a conversation, sit down and say, I'm not happy
with this relationship. You know, maybe we should, maybe we should part ways. Like I just don't believe
that there was never a time when you guys literally live in the same house. I just think such a coward
moved by Sandoval and he he did his show Friday night which also was just embarrassing to
see he's he's walking her I would walk five hundred he literally thinks he's Freddie Mercury like it's
like sickening he he thinks he's Freddie Mercury he's just not somebody somebody screamed
Ariana and he was like we love her like it was it was just gross him saying we like oh we love
her like into the microphone I'm like you're a sick puppy no he's like he's like he's like he's
actually psychopath. Like there has to be something wrong in his brain. There is in no way a normal human
being functions like that. You do not hurt a person that you've been with for eight years like that.
Then go on stage and do your little cover band show and just continue your life smiling and
paparazzi pictures. Like you are a sick human being if that's how you are. I think a lot of times
the term narcissist gets thrown around a lot when just like referring to people that are just
selfish people. He is a narcissist. Like that is. That is.
his priority is himself. It always has been. He's never looked out for other people.
Even like, if you want to point out, like, him defending Schwartz from time to time, sure,
but he also caused a lot of issues for Schwartz from what we have seen from the show as well.
And I just, it's just never been, it's never been good vibes. Another wrinkle in all this is this guy,
Patrick Summers. He's been involved in the Bravo world for some time. If you've seen him,
We talked about him a little bit during the Rina Kathy Hilton stuff because he had sort of inserted himself into that as well, claiming to have receipts and having like the inside scoop on like Kathy trying to come for Rina and vice for like all these things.
So he posted screen recordings on his story of messages with Tom.
Sandoval. So it is like a video, which I believe is his way of trying to, you know, prove that it's
authentic of him claiming that Sandoval was also sleeping with his friend Julia and that Julia
had gotten pregnant and had gotten an abortion and Sandoval ghosted her. And the messages back from
Sandoval were like, I'll talk to her. And then like more messages being like, bro, like take your
story down. Like you're hurting my family and businesses and my, you know, my, you know, my
legal team will be in contact or was like the last message.
And this guy posted all these and then was like, I'll stand up for my friends.
But then he's also, I don't know, it's iffy with that guy because he posted that.
And then if you go watch his Instagram stories, it's just like him resharing every
Bravo fan being like, oh shit, Patrick's in the mix.
Like drama's good now.
Like he loves being in the mix.
So it's like, okay, where are we sure about this one?
Like, it's, I wouldn't be surprised because of what's, what we've now learned.
But it just, at this point, like the Raquel thing just seems so massive.
You could tell me, you'd be like, oh, San Deval, he's been cheating with all these other ladies this whole time.
Like, I wouldn't even blink an eye at this point.
Well, yeah, I mean, my, one of my first thoughts when this came out was that this is not the first time San Deval cheated on Ariana.
Yeah.
Like, you don't, you don't go eight years in a relationship.
and the first time you cheat is with one of your girlfriend's best friends.
Right.
And a full-blown love affair, not like just fooling around one time,
like straight up having an affair and apparently claiming that they're like in love now.
Yeah.
To me, it screams Sandoval's been cheating on the Lel for some time.
I'm sure there's going to be more stories that come out about him.
You know, if you were so comfortable to cheat with one of your girlfriend's best friend,
friends and you must be comfortable cheating with literally anybody like i think i think that's kind of how it
goes i all these people are sick i mean now we have everybody coming out and like defending ariana
which is great sheena you know people were seeing where sheena was going to lie on this because
rachel and chena and rachel came to our interview with uh with sheena and china had her back
this season and as well as ariana rickle said and
And people were like, what's Sheena going to do?
And apparently there was some altercation.
And Sheena is fully team Ariana.
She's posted multiple times.
We've seen Kristen, Sheena, Katie all show up to Ariana's house with flowers and such.
Lala has been posting nonstop, obviously, because she can't stand Raquel.
And she's been really adamant.
James Kennedy has been commenting things.
So this seems like it's going to be, you know, the long haul here of torture for Tom and Raquel.
the reunion is definitely going to be something.
I think they're both going to have to show up.
I don't think there's any way that neither of them.
I mean, Tom is loving the spotlight.
So he'll be there.
Raquel, I could see her being fucking terrified,
but she'll be there as well.
And Lisa,
because I was shocked,
Raquel is gaining followers.
What?
Raquel is gaining Instagram followers.
Yeah, I saw that too,
which doesn't make any sense.
People maybe are following her to see if she post something.
thing so that they're like the first ones to see it.
But Lisa Vanderpump's going to be the guest
on watch what happens live on Wednesday
with Andy Cohen, which will be interesting
because obviously Lisa will be talking
about it. She tweeted, you know, she doesn't know
if her heart can take it with the
reunion. She has to be so
disappointed. So yeah,
this is just- They're both gaining followers.
That doesn't make, you know,
weird. It's like- They always say,
and I'm not agreeing with this, but they always say
no
no publicity is bad publicity, right?
Yeah, all publicity, yeah, all publicity is good publicity or no publicity is bad publicity.
There's no such thing as bad publicity.
There's no such thing as bad publicity.
Apparently, that's how the saying goes.
I don't know if I agree with that, but they're gaining followers, so they're probably excited about that.
Like, Raquel's probably pumped.
She crossed the 500,000 mark.
All of, like, she hasn't turned her comments off.
All of her comments are still on.
Her last post has over 16,000 comments on it.
Isn't it crazy that Haley Bieber lost so many followers, but these people are gaining followers?
Yeah, I know.
It doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make any sense.
People probably just want to see if they post something.
I'm not following them.
No, but yeah, it's insane.
Wild.
This took such a crazy turn.
And we've just been going back all weekend, just being like, I can't believe they were
literally here on Wednesday.
And then this whole thing happened Wednesday night.
I do feel bad for Sheena.
I'm not going to lie because Sheena definitely has.
was riding hard for Raquel.
And now, like, that's just,
no wonder she got into a physical altercation with her.
She's probably like, what the fuck?
Like, I've put all of my energy into, like,
helping you and supporting you and, like, help,
first of all, helping her storyline on the show,
certainly keeping her involved in the drama.
Like, Raquel definitely,
I said this to you previous on the show.
It was, like, Raquel probably is worried about where her,
story goes, not being with James. So
making drama with Schwartz is a way to like create
stories for her. And I'm like, Sheena and her being involved,
Sheena's probably like, I fucking was helping your ass and you've been
hooking up with Sandoval for months?
Yeah. God. I just, it's,
I've been beating myself up a little bit thinking why didn't we ask
about Sandoval in that interview, but why would we have?
Why would we?
We had no way.
I asked Raquel if she was dating.
She was like, I'm, I'm dating myself.
She was, she stumbled her.
Stumbled so hard on that one.
Asked if she was dating.
Because any person who was just dating, they'd be like, yeah, you know, I'm just like, seeing what happens, dating around, talking to some people.
No.
She could not get that answer out.
And then she was like, I'm dating myself, which I just, I understand what people say that.
But at the same time, I roll my eyes so hard.
I'm like, you're not.
what do you mean you dating yourself?
Because you're not, you're not.
You're fooling around with your best friend's boyfriend.
So you're not dating yourself.
But yeah, I was just like, damn, why didn't I ask?
Because sports and Sandoval go so hand in hand all the time.
Like, why didn't I just say like, so what's your relationship like with Sandoval?
I don't, obviously that wouldn't have came out of my mouth.
Yeah.
Because why would?
Why would we?
Like, we had no reason to ask that.
It doesn't have that point.
But part of me wishes I did just because that would have been some answer.
I bet.
I know.
What we could have asked.
what we could have asked was what do you think about
the rumors about Sandoval and Ariana
being in an open relationship.
Yeah, and Ariana did,
we have to clear that up as well because
Ariana did tweet like, we are not in an open
relationship. I'm not that cool.
Because people are still, were they
in an open relationship? It's like, no, they were not
in an open relationship. And she tweeted that when the trailer
came out. So that was like a month plus ago.
Honestly, where do you think rumors
like open relationship start?
It's when somebody is stepping out of the relationship and they're in open relationship so they can hook up with other people.
Like, that's usually how those rumors start.
So I'm sure more is going to come out about this.
If we miss something, I'm sorry.
There's just a lot of information being thrown around.
And we will keep, we'll keep everybody updated as we as more information comes in.
We're trying to get somebody on the podcast.
We've reached out to Lala.
we've reached out to basically anybody of the cast that will come on besides Raquel and Tom.
We have not reached out to them.
I don't think they would go on a podcast.
Lala and Kristen are doing Sheena's podcast this week.
Yeah, that'll be very interesting to see.
It's funny seeing Kristen back in the mix.
That's for sure.
If you've been a longtime viewer of Vanderpump, it's very interesting seeing her back in the mix.
And, you know, we have something more lighthearted for the rest of the show.
We have Hannah Brown on who was such a delight.
and, you know, really happy for her, cool things coming her way.
So we have a great interview with her and we have a great game of trivia.
So let's get into the rest of the show.
