Chicks in the Office - Selena Gomez Doc + Beat Ria & Fran Game 54

Episode Date: November 7, 2022

Subscribe to our YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE. Boston trip recap (00:00-18:29). Selena Gomez documentary (20:14-41:16). Love is Blind thoughts (43:16-56:41). Aaron Carter death (58:42-1:03:52). Game 54 of Beat Ria & Fran with Liv & Chase (1:05:08-1:30:49). MERCH! > http://bit.ly/citomerch. Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat show > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. This is state of emergency. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne, giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. And Friday energy, we are bringing to you on this lovely Monday afternoon that you're listening

to this. Hopefully you had an amazing weekend. Sorry that we didn't get to talk to you guys on Friday. We had our live show in Boston Thursday night, which was freaking awesome. I thought it was great. We had a lovely time. Our biggest show yet. And I thought we did a good job.

I do too. The show was amazing. Boston was amazing. Crowd was amazing. Production went very well. Everything was... No, it very smooth. Very smooth.

It was a show. Yeah. I think to date. It was incredible. And we have some exciting news. But, um... New York, we're coming for you. Well, we're staying here for you.

Yeah. Because we're not leaving. We're not leaving. Thursday, tickets go on sale for our one night only in New York show, which is December 7th. It's a Wednesday. Holiday spectacular. On a Wednesday. Happy holidays.

Yes, and we are so excited. So we usually keep the same format for each live show, but this one is a holiday spectacular. so you never know what's going to happen. We have some really, really fun things planned for this show that I'm like beaming about. Like, look at me. I got a little smirk coming out of my face. Because when you get in the swing of it yesterday, I was dancing around, listening to some music. And I put on the song that we come out to, which we just changed, actually.

And I was like, fuck. New York. We got some things planned. So Thursday, New York tickets will go on sale. make sure you guys are on the site ready to go 12 Eastern time noon on Thursday yeah so noon Eastern time tickets sold out really fast in Boston so make sure if you you want to come you you're you're on that link and you're

ready to go did you webster hall yes I did Webster Hall which is iconic very cool I've been to concerts there yeah so I yeah very cool I when I told my family we were doing Webster Hall they're like the fuck you got you You guys are doing Webster Hall. Yeah. So it's really cool. Very, very excited. Also, thank you to shout out to Taylor and Megan.

Yes. They put on the live shows for us. They did an awesome job. And thank you to everybody who came and supported us. It was really fun and we love doing the live shows. Love getting on stage. That we do. Yes, we do.

So how was everyone's weekend besides that? I had a great weekend, if you couldn't tell, from the way I sound. You didn't even fucking listen to Lake Bell. Didn't listen to Lake Bell. You're not taking it. You're not taking this job seriously. She told me, well, I actually out loud said to people yesterday that I was worried about talking too much because my voice is my craft. And they looked at me and they were like, you did not just say that.

Your voice is your craft. I was like, guys, my voice is my craft. Your voice is your craft. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise. Your voice is your crap. It was just a funny way of putting it out there. But it is, and it was a great weekend besides the Phillies losing, but we're moving on from that. Did you get told that you talk too much in school when you were younger?

No, I didn't talk too much in school because I'm a rule follower. I'm not talking at a turn. But socially, yes. socially definitely too much. I just thought of like the most embarrassing story ever that I was just about to tell, but I need to save it. We're not telling it right now. We're not telling it right now. Moving on, moving on.

Anyways. Oh my goodness. I'm sorry. It hit me and then I was like, then tears started falling in my eyes and I can't tell it right now. I had a great Sunday. It was a marathon Sunday in New York. One of my best friends ran the marathon. It's the first time I have had somebody very close to me run the marriage.

And we put together a whole, you know, cheering squad. We were at mile eight, mile 18, mile 23. We're running around all the city making sure we were there at certain spots. We met her up, met up with her, like, towards the end, too. And it was just amazing. But the Marathon Sunday is such an electric day. And you find yourself just screaming all day because you're cheering for everybody that's running the marathon.

And do you see these people, they're so happy to be. running too like you see people are smiling in ear to ear they're taking it all in it's amazing so um big credit to madeline for running the new york city marathon she absolutely crushed it so if you couldn't tell i was yelling a lot on sunday let me tell you very impressive by everybody that that does the marathon i could never i just could never so props to everybody who does it it's really amazing i know it's the first time i like actually really paid attention to the marathon i'm not going to every year I'm like running who does that but then this year I was really paying attention and I was like wow that's incredible yeah we had a conversation at one of the stops because the atmosphere was just so

amazing and we were all like god maybe like maybe I should do this you know like everybody in the group was having that revelation and I was like no not me not having the revelation I'm having the revelation that I do love cheering. Yeah. For the marathon. You could support everybody at the marathon. I will cheer. I will make a sign.

I will do the whole thing. But I will not. Participate. Probably would not participate. Right. But it, like you said, it is incredibly impressive. Right. I'm happy for everybody else who does it, but not us.

Yeah, it is. We don't need to be runners. Tough. Tough. 26 miles. It's insane. An older woman with a cane. Oh, crazy.

Guys. There was a run. a man. He's gone viral. With the pineapple? The pineapple. I saw him twice. You saw him twice? It was amazing. I saw him in Brooklyn and we were all like, oh my God, I'm a pineapple man? We were like, look at that man with that pineapple on his head. Very impressive as well.

And then we saw him. These people are doing tricks. We saw him at Mile 23. Still had the pineapple on his head. That is something else. We were like, look at this guy go with the fucking pineapple on his head. There's a guy juggling and running. That is crazy. All right. Stop showing off. Yeah, yeah. That's what I said. We get it. Come on. Yeah. Like, okay. Okay. We get it. We get it. We get it. Yeah, like, okay, we get it.

You're running the 26 miles. You also have to juggle in front of our faces. Yeah, the things people do to, like, entertain themselves, but the just diversity in people that you see running, it's just, it's great. It's a beautiful thing. It is a beautiful day. And especially, it was, like, hot and human in the city, too. So I felt so, I felt so bad for so many, like, it was like 80% humidity.

That is not what you're training for. You spend all. Like your training September, October, you're making, you're going on these long runs. It's, you know, 40, 45 degrees in the morning. You're running early. You're not training in 80% humidity in 75 degrees. I'll tell you, I'm hot these past two days. Yeah, it's going to drop, but it's really, it was like a weird, we got like a weird heat weight.

It's November. I'm wearing shorts. This might be the latest I've worn shorts. I know. It's crazy. We had a debate when we were getting dressed for Sunday of people being like, Is it acceptable to wear jean shorts? And we were like, yeah, I think it totally is.

It definitely was. It was hot out. It was hot yesterday. There was something else I wanted to bring up, but I can't quite remember. Do I remind you of Courtney Kardashian today? With your matcha? Yes. A little bit, yeah.

Thank you. That's what I was looking for. You're testing out your macha. I am testing out. We're testing it out. Because I just need something that gives me energy. Like, it doesn't need to be coffee. Yeah.

And sometimes coffee can hurt your tummy. So why not a little matcha? I actually feel like the, I do feel like the energy is working, though. I'm not going to lie. I'm feeling energetic. I had a question for both of you, though, that I saved in my mind bank over the weekend. If you could have invented one thing, right, that is used on a day-to-day basis or just in a daily task, for example, window washer, right? The person who invented window washer is a billionaire, okay, or one of them. If you could pick one item.

Like, what do you mean window washer? That's just an example. No, I know, but just like the cleaning product? Like, yeah, there's a certain. Like Windex. Yeah, Windex. Like any brand name washer. Yeah.

Something so simple, but yet so effective in life. Right, you have the patent for something. Right. I have a good one. What is it? Band-Aids. Band-Aids is a great one. That is a great answer.

Yep. I'm so pleased that you just said that immediately. I've had really like in the past week or so adult 10 a lot of band-aids. How's her finger? He's really had to utilize some band-dains. It started, I played basketball with my brother over the weekend and it started bleeding again. You balled up? Yeah.

How was it? Who won? He did because. He's better? No, because he just, I haven't played in months. And so I could go into it, but he practices like every day and he's been like training for the, he trained. He trains like, that's a Super Bowl. Like if he beats me, it's like.

He's also. He's taller than me. And he graduated, right? Yeah. He was a college athlete. Yeah, I don't think that matters. I could have been college athlete if I wanted to be. Yeah, you could have been.

Anything you set your mind to. Anybody could do anything they set their mind to. I could. Sports is one thing where I'm like, no, to this day I'll be like still. College sports. I think it's very hard to be a college athlete. Guys, don't forget that I can throw football over 60 yards, okay?

We don't forget that. That's why we hired you. We should do that. Oh, no, I was going to say, What is your answer? What is your answer? What is your answer? I'm trying to think I don't, I can't like...

Because I saw a TikTok this weekend. I can't think of anything. This window washer. I was going to say headphones too. Right. Something so simple. I'm trying to think of something that's really, really simple that you use all the time. That is like...

Soap. Think about anything sucks. Well, right. But that's... The wheel? I'm thinking like a tat, like a... Bandies was a perfect answer. Don't go any further than Band-Bandie.

But I saw a TikTok for this window washer. And it was like this famous window washer. I saved it. Don't ask me why. I have no idea. The brand? Yeah. It was a certain cleaning soap.

And I was like, wow, imagine being the person who created this specific cleaning brand. I don't want to give any free ads. I mean, they're already doing well. And then you're just like rich because you created the chemical. to create this window washer. Why aren't I that smart? I'd probably go. What happened to me in school

that I talk for a living and I couldn't create something? Our voices are craft. Our voices are craft. We're late in the game. Everything's been created. Everything's been invented. That's what you think

until something you're like a lot of that night. Right. Well, I was thinking that about the podcast because I was like... Backscratcher. Backscratcher is a good one. Backscratcher is a good one. But is it?

Yeah, because... Not really. Those are sold in a lot of places. True. And people just pick it up. Think about all like the novelty stores. The neck pillow for like flying. That's a good one.

I was just thinking about the podcast and I was like, what can we do? Do you invent something? No, no. Just in general. Well, we have to address it. But just in general, like, what can we do to change up the podcast a little bit? Right. Like what is nobody doing right now?

Everybody's doing everything. Everybody's doing everything. You know? It's like, and we started this thing. Five years ago. Yeah. And but just because now TikTok is so popular, people see our podcast, right? And they don't know how long ago we started.

And they think that we just picked this up, right? Like now. And they're like, oh, everyone thinks they can have a podcast now. It's like, bitch, we've been doing this for five years, you know? And just everybody's doing everything. Like, how do we, what's a new segment? I don't know because everybody's doing everything. The sign segment we did was new.

And that was very successful. Right. That was that. You're right. You're right. But I was just, my mind was racing yesterday thinking, you know, what can we do? What can excite us? And I came up with nothing because everything, I felt like everybody's doing everything.

And we have been doing it. We have a new segment this Friday. We do. That is a new segment this Friday. It's just kind of repurpose. But yes, there's a tough, there is a tough thing when you do come up with an idea and you Google it and you're like, that already exists. It's not like I came up with.

nothing, but I was like, this has been dumb. Well, you know, you know what got my mind racing because I saw, I'm sorry, this matcha, get it away from me. It has given me energy up the zoo. I feel like my heart is racing. Who knew? Anyways, I saw, you know when people do on their stories and they're like, confess something to me. Yeah.

You know, oh, give me your deepest, darkest confessions. And I think it was Chelsea from The Bachelor, her Instagram stories, but she was talking about the Cosmo Remember in Cosmo years ago when there was like the Confessions page and it was so juicy. The magazine. Yes.

And it was like a thrill when you got one of your magazines, J-14, whatever. And you'd be like, oh, like what are people saying? We are so now overexposed to people's confessions that you can't even do a confession segment, right? Because every day... It has to be out of this fucking world. actually shock people. Right. Nothing that I hear shocks me anymore because we are seeing,

my whole For You page is just, I'm just scrolling through mindlessly seeing the craziest shit and nothing is affecting you anymore because it's just so over, everybody knows everything about everybody. I just feel like TikTok's really giving you a lot of issues right now. I need to take a break from TikTok. I do. It's so much overexposure to information. Highly addictive. It's highly addictive. Well, listen, I love TikTok, but I just think you're getting so much information. from everybody that you're you kind of become desensitized. Wait, did you watch White Lotus last night? I did.

I mean where she was talking about the girl. Oh, yeah. She's like, I just want to live. Like, I don't want to be on TikTok. Right. No, but I, you know, I feel that though. Like, I just felt like how does somebody do an advice segment or confession segment anymore when it's like people are just confessing for no reason. Right.

You know, people are just telling. And you are, you are like, you have no time for something. Like, if we did that. people like sent boring stuff, you would actually end the segment. Right. I would just be like enough of this segment. But yeah, people, people have no problem sharing their deepest, darkest secrets anymore. They just tell them for free on TikTok. Yeah. So whatever. This mouch just got me feeling crazy. All to go viral. I'm not going to lie. I don't know if I ever drink this again. Because my heart is beating right now. I swear to God,

I need to put ice on my neck. I'm sweating. Oh boy. I'm literally stupid being spread. I didn't know it was that powerful. I feel like you need a water. Do, holy fuck. Wow. Courtney Kardashian is drinking this. You know, it's not safe that Penelope is drinking this. It's not. You see your TikToks?

Yeah. But think about, like, I used to drink those frappuccinos. Right, but holy fuck. Yeah. I feel like I'm going to die. Take a couple deep breaths. I don't know how this happens. I don't know.

It just hit me out of nowhere. Just really rapid fire. I'm not kidding. That is like the. most cat bean I've ever felt. Getting like a head rush? I'm like seriously, feel my hands.

Yeah, you're, you're moist. You're definitely a little moist. Oh, all right. I started the White Lotus. Oh, yeah. Just want to make that announcement. I started the White Lotus. I had a couple things to say.

I started the White Lotus. Now, this is the devil's lettuce. This is crazy. I'm sorry. Go on. Um, I was very upset about fate. The Wink saga getting canceled.

I posted about that last week. Very upset about it. I don't know what happened. I think it's a money thing because people were watching it. It made me very upset. Three, today is Monday. Tomorrow was Tuesday. Really?

And the day after that is Wednesday. Tuesday is voting day. So make sure you go out and vote. I think that's very important. Tuesday's voting day. November 8th. and we'll be recording for obviously you won't hear until Wednesday, so this is my time to remind you all to vote.

Yeah, Paradise is only tonight. Paradise is only one night due to it being election debt on November 8th. And something also important, ugly Christmas sweaters go on sale tomorrow, 20% off. They're actually fired. And they're actually really good. Yeah, they are. Like we thought of some good ones this year and we're excited about it. I'm excited for people to see them.

And that'll be tomorrow at 10. am so look out for those we'll post them i'm excited for your guys reaction let's get into the topics let's do it let's do it before you pass out and i lose my voice i might i actually really might i'm not joking okay we're going to be talking about the salina gomez documentary that came out on apple tv on on friday we're going to talk about love is blind catch up on all the episodes and then the finale is this week unfortunate very sad news about arin carter passing this past weekend and we have a of trivia with Charcottery Chick and her fiancee who were so much fun and you guys also if you watch on YouTube you can look at the beautiful boards and buy her book the art of the board so let's get

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She looks so, like I was like, oh my God, like she looks so young. Like she was getting ready to tour. She's having, she showed a very intimate. setting of her kind of having a little bit of a breakdown, being worried about the tour and performing and having it look good and her looking good and all these things. And it was just, the whole thing is it was extremely relatable talking about her health issues physically and mentally and even how the physical stuff affected the mental stuff and her bipolar diagnosis and really discussing all of those things

that she hasn't fully shared. There was that one scene that I found really interesting to where she was like, she was planning that speech. And her, I don't know who was with her publicist manager, but whoever it was,

was like, do you want to say bipolar? Like if you do, it's going to be, you know, really picked up. And she's like,

I'm not saying you should, do it, I just want you to be aware of what could happen if you do. And she definitely, it just felt like Selena really wanted to share and help people. And clearly, philanthropy is extremely important to her. She shared a trip to Africa that was like very, very emotional. And the conversations they were having, these girls were so impressive. And I basically, like, I had tears in my eyes from the, beginning to the end. Same. I cried throughout the entire thing. I think that there was also a lot cut out,

apparently, that she cut like a whole hour just weeks before that, which is crazy to think about. I'm sure it went even more in depth. But I feel like this was a totally different side that we usually see of Selena Gomez. Like, it's pretty surface level. She said she wanted it to be a surface level, you know, tour documentary. And then things obviously changed, plans changed. And we saw a lot more. I think that it's clear without mentioning it, but also kind of talked about was her relationship being so public. And the paparazzi, the way they just scream in her face, because that was shown often, like the way they scream at her. And then they talk about, are you drinking again and just everything, like just shouting at her? And I feel like that wasn't talked about really, but it was shown. And I feel like that was also on purpose. I there's also a lot of talks about

Selena Gomez's friends because she did mention somewhere that she's not friends with some people that were in the documentary but she is still friends with Raquel and a lot of people had a problem with Raquel in this documentary which I just think people are so soft these days like it's insane people I thought that was crazy it's so tiresome to see it I mean we say it's tiresome but I'm sure it's way more tiresome to be Selena Gomez

and see everybody pick apart everything and your fans picking apart everything because you love your fans and you're so happy they support you but you're also like you don't need to tear apart my friends and my family and and all that because she is still really close to Raquel. It's just tiresome to see the way that people need to flip everything and get mad at everything and dissect the way her friendship is with Raquel. It's like if she's friends with Raquel clearly she does you know what I mean like she hasn't had a problem cutting other people out of her life. Clearly she finds Raquel to be a good friend. Yeah, Raquel was a very honest person in this documentary. It felt like she was trying to, you know, ground Selena at times. And they talked like

good friends. Like, it just seemed like she, Raquel felt comfortable talking to Selena in a way that other people maybe wouldn't feel comfortable because a lot of people are just yes people in those situations, whereas Raquel would push back on Selena a little bit more. I thought that it was just because they're really close friends and not that Raquel is a bad friend. Like I think maybe she just shows her support in a different way and shows affection in a different way. But the way that people attack is insane. Yeah, you also saw like three conversations over a span of a 10-year friendship. They've been friends for a really long time.

She was getting called all these names online, talking about that they have a toxic friendship. I don't know what people expect Selena's friends to do for her, act like around her, to just kiss her ass the whole time is just like not realistic and I don't think anybody wants a friend that's like that

and they have like clearly a complex relationship. Raquel has been with her through a lot and clearly travels with her and is at all these events and is kind of like

a support system for her. So it would just be fake if Raquel didn't maybe get frustrated with her friend sometimes. Like the whole documentary I felt like was to show that Selena, you know, humans are flawed. Like there isn't there isn't a perfection that we hold these celebrities to this standard of perfection. And the same is like with your friends. like you don't have perfect friends people have arguments or they have discussions and like there was

you know one moment where selina had gotten frustrated because she had felt like raquel was making it seem like she wasn't appreciating the uh you know moments and and things she's been afforded in her life and she's like that's not what i'm trying to say and she was getting very frustrated doing press um which is fair. I mean, they showed some of the clips and yeah, I could understand why she would get frustrated, but like Raquel had to turn her Instagram, like her Instagram comments were off. Like, it was crazy. She was trending on Twitter. It just felt like it blew up so much when it was just like a couple conversations of friends having

talks. Like sometimes you get frustrated with a friend. It also just showed that Selena Gomez like isn't nice 24-7. Like when she said to her, when she's getting frustrated with her, Raquel, it's like, that's gonna, you guys aren't gonna get along 24-7 if you're together 24-7. And also, somebody needs to check in and say, are you happy? You know, Raquel checking in on Selena saying, are you happy? Because she sees her all the time and probably knows when she's actually happy versus when she's not actually happy. So her saying, and I think it was clear actually that Selena wasn't happy.

Yeah. And so when Raquel was like, you don't seem happy. I think it was pretty clear Selena wasn't happy in those moments. Yeah. And she, you know, Raquel is right. or has written a book with Tanya Rat from scrubbing in. And, you know, we love Tanya. And their book is called The Sunshine Mind,

100 Days Defining the Hope and Joy You Want. So I just feel like Raquel is always trying to see positivity and trying to push positivity. And sometimes when you're like having a little bit of a dark moment or you're sad or you're going through something and your friend is pushing like, well, be appreciative, you know? positivity.

Like, you just want to be like, shut the fuck up. Right. Like, no, I'm not happy right now. Yeah, exactly. But that's not on Raquel. Like, that's her, you know, her mindset is like that in there. Having regular, like I said, regular normal friendship conversations. And also when Raquel was like, this isn't reality to Selena.

And then everyone was like, well, it could be her reality. But like right now it's not. Like Selena has a whole other life, friends, family at home. that is not her reality at the moment. It is not her. Like that's just very real. Like the people who are saying like, well, it could be her reality. Like, I get where you're saying.

But it's not her reality right now. It could be a reality if she dropped her family and friends in profession and business. And dropped everything. Yes. But unfortunately, that's just not the case. That's just not how it works. People just are, they live online. It's crazy.

Really, some people just need to step outside. It's genuinely insane. Like, really, really fucking crazy. was very surprised to see what people were saying. I felt like that was totally unnecessary, but it was a very good side of Selena to see. I just think it's so, you know, I certainly don't consider myself and an expert in mental health and learning of, you know, proper diagnoses and things like that. For when you look at like bipolar disorder, there's so many factors that can come into play with a diagnosis like that. And it's just, it's wild to me that

Selena, Demi, their two young people in the spotlight, Disney, Barney, that focus, that lens was so zoomed in on them. And like that really, really, I think, took such a toll. Absolutely. on them. And like I said, of course, there's so many, so many, so many factors that go into a diagnosis like that. But to have these two young people

who were friends very early on, went through a lot of the same shit to have it happen. It's, you know, you really look back at those, the obsession of fame. And I mean,

hey, we'll talk about it. When we talk about Aaron Carter, like, it's really to have like this documentary and that, and Aaron Carter's passing like on the one weekend

is you really, you really look at how these young, famous people, how their brains are just affected by all of this. So many people want to be famous so bad. It's not like they want to be a singer or an actress or an actor because they love that. They just want to be famous. And it's like, well, that does not fix really anything. There's so many problems and difficulties and challenges that come with it.

On top of that, Selena Gomez made a comment. See, so I love Selena Gomez. Like, I mean, I've always liked Selena Gomez, but after this documentary, I was like, wow, I really love Selena Gomez. I think she's great. But I will disagree with what's happening here with the comment she made saying that Taylor is her only friend in the industry. And then Francia, I think, is how you pronounce her name, who donated her kidney to Selena Gomez. She saved Selena Gomez's life, okay? Selena Gomez has lupus.

She needed kidney. Francia was a match. The way that Francia even found out that she was a match was her doctor. even tell her. Selina Gomez told her because the doctor told Selena Gomez first. So it was like, at that point, she did have a choice, but also no. You know what I mean? It was like, Selena Gomez called her and was like, you're my match. Like, this is so awesome. And then at that point, you're like, I have to give her my kid. I have to give her my kidney. So she saved Selena Gomez's life. So this comment was posted on e-news where they wrote about how Selena said that Taylor

is her only friend in the industry. Francia commented, said, interesting. Now, whether you agree with the way that Selena Gomez worded that and that Francia maybe overreact her or whatever, sensitive, mind you, she gave her her kidney. So, like, you're probably going to be sensitive to certain things when you're not mentioned, when you're like, I fucking gave you my kidney and you're not going to say this. I also thought it was a little while. So then I thought her not being in the documentary too is kind of crazy. Not at all.

Not mentioned at all. Because they talked about the kidney. Yes. Donation. Right. But maybe, I mean, I don't know. Maybe Selena didn't really want that to be a focus. I know, but she gave you her fucking kidding.

And then Selena Gomez. So then everyone was talking about the comment. She unfollowed Selena. So then Selena commented on a TikTok where it was talked about and said, sorry that I didn't mention every person I know. Extremely snarky comment. Just felt unnecessary whether you're friends or not friends.

I think Selena. Even if Selena might be a little snarky too, which I, you know, everybody's snarky. No, yes, but she's. She gave her a fucking kidney. I understand. It's, it's one thing. I understand, but we don't know what happened in between those times.

I know, but the thing is, even if you're not friends anymore, she gave you her kidney. Like, that's the thing. Like, at that point, I don't think it matters if your friends are not friends. I know. You got to remember who saved your life and gave you her kidney. She may need that later in life and she doesn't have it anymore because she gave it to you. I just think that Selena meant the comment. as more of like people at her level.

Yes, but I know, I'm not like, but I'm saying it doesn't matter how the comment was meant at that point. If you're Francia and you're offended by that, it's like kind of, you're probably so sensitive to the fact that you gave this person your kidney. No, no, no, I'm not saying, yeah, I understand. I do think like you, Francia has every right to be hurt by that comment. I understand that.

I just think it was perhaps unnecessary, an unnecessary, like, Instagram comment when it's an interview, it's on e-news, it's a written text where a lot of times, like, that stuff is taken out of context. But I just, I just, like, I don't think Selena meant to exclude everyone. She has other famous friends.

No, I know, but she was hanging out with, she was hanging out with Brooklyn Beckham and Nicola Peltz, back, they had this big part. Like, those are famous people. They're in the industry. You see that. It's just a heat of the moment thing. You're like, are you kidding?

And then you comment, right? So I'm assuming Francia after that was like, maybe not that. Maybe that wasn't the best comment. But he the moment, you're like, I gave her. But also, I gave her my kidney. For Selena, if you see that, maybe she didn't go about it the right way. But shouldn't she have just been like, obviously I like owe my life to her? Instead of like commenting back of snarky comment.

Right. The snarky comment back was like, did you? you have to say sorry to mention every person I know. It's like, you could have just been like, you know, I was talking about like the music industry, like obviously Francia. You know, she could have had like a nice comment back, but instead had a very snarky comment back. Well, because Selena was probably pissed that Francia had the,

took it online, you know, like unfollowed her. She straight up unfollowed her too. And I, she has, they made a TikTok together in like July over the summer of the two of them. And people were freaking out about it. because you don't really see them together that often anymore. And she had, Francie has viewed Selena more as like a sister and not even like a friend where it's like they don't have to sugarcoat shit with each other.

So I can just see both sides of it. I'd imagine that you have changed your life to help somebody. Your, like your body, you did something for somebody else. I think on Selena's side, which I feel like is possible for people who get received donations like this, it's like, yes, I owe you so much. Thank you so much. Do I like, do I have to say that every single time something happens? Because probably not every single time, but when you create an entire documentary about your life and you leave out like a very crucial part, that's probably, you know what I mean? Like you created, there's one documentary about Selena Gomez.

I thought it was very bizarre. She was not included. I kind of feel like they just aren't that friendly anymore. Right, but there's one documentary about your life. How can you leave out the part where your life was saved? Right. Like, Selena mentioned that she talked about the kidney. But it was like she didn't really talk about Francia.

So that's what's crazy. Like, no, you don't need to be mentioned every single time. Every single time Selena Gomez talks about something. Right. But there's one time there's a documentary about your life. She probably includes the fact that this person gave me their kidney. But I'm just saying maybe they're, maybe they had a little. falling out so she didn't want to include her.

That's crazy. That's what I'm saying. It's nuts. Like no matter what like your friends are not friends like she should still be appreciated. Like hey we're not friends anymore but I will thank her forever for giving me. Yeah. It's very complex I think. I don't even know like what they're.

I'm not even saying. Once again I love Selena Gomez. It's just like not you don't have to just because you like someone say that they're right all the time. I'm not saying I think that they had a falling out because I really don't know. I just think they have... Well, they have one now.

I think they have a very... I think they have a very complex relationship. I think when you have a friend make that kind of sacrifice for you, it can get very complicated. And I feel like that's probably where they're at right now. And Selena's also probably... We saw how she reacted to doing press and stuff.

She's probably pissed that that, like, is a comment that, made its way to everything. Well. I don't know. I'm just saying like if I was heard too, I would just be frustrated that like that you do an interview and that one clip is what,

or that one quote is what's being shared everywhere. Yeah. And she's saying she only has one friend in the industry. Honestly, stupid quote. Yeah. Like didn't have to be shared everywhere either. Yeah. And there was so much more in the interview.

And I... Everybody knows. Yeah. Everybody knows their friends. And I really just think of it. was more of like, hey, it's fucking lonely at the top. She's got, like, she's one of the most followed human beings on the planet. And as far as fame goes, there's not that many people that are like up on that level.

So I feel like Taylor's like one of the only people that can really relate to her in that sense. Yeah, I don't know. It just felt like it really exploded from something that wasn't that serious. Yeah. Well, either way, I think that the documentary probably. helped a lot of people who deal with the same stuff Selena Gomez does in terms of feeling like they're not, you know, crazy or, you know, out of place because so many people deal with that and to see somebody like Selena Gomez who is so famous and so almost unattainable in real life

that you're like, wow, she deals with the same stuff as I do probably helped a lot of people. Yeah, definitely. I think the documentary is extremely well made and the message is strong and it's important. And everybody, if you haven't watched it, you should watch it. It is really good. It's on Apple TV. What was I was going to say? Oh, there was some people questioning that TikTok comment because they're like,

oh, Celina said in the documentary, she doesn't run like, she doesn't have any of her social. I think she has TikTok. I think she has access to TikTok. Which makes sense. Like anytime she does make a comment or go live or do anything, it's on TikTok. So I think that's the one thing she is actually on. Which might be the most toxic platform that there is. I know.

But she loves TikTok. She does. There's a very, I mean, it's very entertaining, but also very toxic. Both sides to it. It was a very interesting get-together that they had with Brooklyn and Nicola, by the way. Didn't understand that. People forget Nicola dated Justin Bieber. Oh, I did forget that.

People, me. Yeah. She did? I think they went on a couple. dates. Well, it looked like they had a little documentary slumber party type situation. Sophia Ritchie used to be really good friends. And Sophia Ritchie dated Jesse Bieber and then

Nicola did. And I didn't see them be friends anymore. Sleena's sister, little sister was there too. Yeah, it looked like a great little slumber party. It did. And Raquel. And Raquel and it looked like Brooklyn. A couple of her other friends. Brooklyn was cooking up a storm for them. Very sweet. That's that guy. Our little chef. Yes, Brooklyn. For so long I have been using Thrive Cosmetics Mascara.

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so we'll talk about that at the end of the week. But let me tell you, this was a really good season, very captivating, very hateable. There's a lot of hateable people on this show. And we could start with Bartiste and Cole, who are just two of the most hateable people I've seen on a reality television show. And they're even more

hateable online. They're have you seen their TikToks? No. Holy fuck. They are so... I haven't seen their social profiles They are so fucking hateable. It's insane.

Like genuinely some of the most hateable people I've seen. Bartis, I think, frustrated me almost more than Cole. Which sounds, I think sounds crazy,

but the... Okay, first of all, I want to talk about what conversations that were had in the last couple episodes. So if you're not totally caught up, I would wait to listen to this

because there is like the final episode is coming out this week, but one through 10 is out. And in 10, they had a... Cole had a conversation with Zay. And they like, basically...

I see the frustrations on both sides. I think he's frustrated because she told totally does act like his mother and like kind of treats him like he's a kid still. Yeah. And you can tell she's frustrated. So it's like every time she's like, no, I want to get married. I love you.

It's like, okay, yes. He said, Cole said something like, I know you love me, but I don't know, like, if you like me. Like, it feels like you hate me. Which honestly, like I get, I get that. It doesn't even seem like she loves him. Yeah, right. Like she doesn't seem like she likes him. It doesn't seem like fucking love or like each other at all.

She doesn't seem like she likes him at all. so I'm a fair question but then he asked her if she was bipolar which is which had our jaws on the fucking floor we were like he was dead serious cannot be serious right now like now like that to me is like oh you want to show that you're ready for marriage you're mature you're going to marry an older woman she thinks you act like a kid that is as immature as it gets it was quite the unfolding that happened between the two of them because I do understand the frustration towards Zay in terms of like, yes, like you said,

she does act like his mom, you know, he tries to cook something she has to step in and start cooking. Like, you know, a guy can do things on his own. She just seems very frustrated by everything he does. I just think they are not compatible at all. I think there's someone out there for Zay and I think there's probably someone out there for Cole, even though

it's, I just, he frustrates me as well. There's somebody out there for both of them, but they are not compatible with each other. They are totally different. They are so, so different. And I think that they need to stop pretending as if they like or love each other in any way, shape, or form. What does he post it on TikTok? Really annoying TikToks. Just fucking annoying-ass TikToks.

I'll show you one right now just because I think his whole demeanor bothers me. Him and Bartis, their whole fucking, oh, I'm sorry, I'm cursing a lot right now. Wow, what have I ever apologized about cursing? Anyways. Bartis for me is more like I don't these guys him with Nancy like I just feel like he

is trying to come across like a good guy and that he's had all this growth and he's so not and it just is but here's a thing I think that there's too much to show you guys go out there on your own honestly

he's just annoying there's nothing that bad he's just annoying in my opinion Bartis, I think, wants to act like he is a mature grown man and he is not in any way. I think his conversations where he tries to come across like he's mature, comes across very immature. The abortion conversation between the two of them keeps getting brought up, which I find odd that it keeps getting brought up from Bartis. Like, he can't let it.

You know what I'm saying? Like, there's just something, they're also not compatible, it seems, in my opinion. I think that. I mean, that could also just be. be a way of he keeps maybe he just keeps referencing that conversation to lead to the fact that they maybe just have all around different political views right and also maybe the producers because he keeps bringing it up and I'm thinking maybe the producers keep asking about it and then they cut it because you never know producers make people restate things yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

the abortion issue and then they talk about political issue right it's fucking human rights issue but it's more I'm saying like that could have been the opening of a bigger political conversation for them. I also think that Bartis and Cole made their counterparts feel very insecure,

which I think is a problem. I think when Bartis kept talking about him and Raven that, oh my God, prettier women. People would, their jaws would drop when they walk in the room. Their jaws would drop at Raven, but their jaws are not dropping at you. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I'm sorry, that was mean. But it's just, the way that he was so full of himself makes you want to say those things because you're like, you need to be knocked down a pedestal because you're making another woman feel bad about herself. Like he kept just being like, attraction is important, okay? And not everyone is going to be attracted to everybody. So I do understand that, right? Like, if you're not attracted to somebody, you cannot be, like, the relationship can't go on much longer.

If you're like, I just can't. I feel like that's an important part. So you don't believe love is blind. To a certain extent, it's like... I'm totally kidding. I just find it very funny that it's always like, when they're at the weddings, the officiant is like, is love truly blind?

And you're like, nope. But I think... I don't know if what I'm trying to say is coming across, but it's like... No, I totally get what you're trying to say. Bartis comes off fake too because I feel like he keeps trying to push. Like, he's mentioned so many times.

about the physical nature, where it's like, okay, if that is so important to you, then leave this process. Right. That's what it is. And it's- Don't marry Nancy then, like you're for, it seems like you're forcing yourself. Right. And just because- Just because Bartis is not attracted to Nancy, doesn't mean Nancy is unattractive. And just because Cole is more attractive, attracted to Colleen or thinks Colleen is better looking does not mean Zay is not attractive. Yeah. She's beautiful. I think that they're both beautiful and I think that, yes, it is important that you want to have sex with the person you're with. I think that's probably pretty important. So I do understand where they're like, but don't continue on.

Sexual attraction. Right. Sexual attraction. Like it's different. I find that to be different than just blanket using the word attraction because sometimes that gets brought down to just like, well, if that person's hot or not. Right. But it's like, sexual chemistry. sexual chemistry, I think is important. So it's like, okay, if you don't see that the sexual chemistry

is there and that is something that's important to you in a relationship, like you said, stop the process. Because what I think is happening now is that Nancy and Zay are insecure in their relationships. Right. Whereas if they were told, hey, I don't feel the sexual chemistry with you, it would hurt. Yeah. But then you break it off and you are, then you go find somebody that you do have that sexual chemistry with. when somebody tells you I don't feel that attraction or whatever with you and then stays with you

you're going to continue to be insecure because you now know the person you're with does not is not attracted to you in that way so that's just going to keep hurting you so I think that's a whole other issue that but then Cole took it back now with Zay he's like I now find you more attractive I'm like you just

shut up with Bartiz and Nancy they she said yes I couldn't believe I'm like Nancy, you don't got to say yes to this guy. You don't have to say yes just because you did the show. People say no. I'm like really afraid he's going to say yes. No, I really hope not.

I really hope that none of them say yes besides Alexa and Brennan. I hope that they go through with it. But Zay and Cole, Nancy and Bartis, please God, do not get married. Colleen and Matt definitely don't have it. We saw a lot of conversations between in there. Like there was a, they had a dinner. in like the aquarium, you know, kind of vibe where it looks like they're underwater.

And he was just like stop fucking bullshit me. What's the answer? What's your answer? What's your answer? And she was just like, no. Like it's like, yeah, they clearly, this is the thing, they're on reality TV.

They have to drag this out all the way to the altar. It's like there, there's so many times where it's like, oh, a breakup should have happened earlier, but they wait for the big moment on the altar because that's what they sign up for and what producers want to happen. So I just, zero percent chance in my mind.

Those two go through with it. And so Matt clearly has some trust issues because his longtime wife that they met when they were 15 was cheating on him and got pregnant with somebody else. And that will fuck you up. And it seems like he had said they had not spoken after the phone call of like, hey, I'm pregnant with somebody else's baby, that that was just like it.

So no closure, no nothing. Imagine it being a phone call and that's your wife. That's insane. Two-day Matt, apparently that's what they call on the streets. So you can't blame him for having those trust issues, but you can't push that on every person you date then and, you know. Certainly maybe the wrong show. Right.

So I don't know. I hope that none of them get married. And I hope that Alexa and Brennan are happy because they seem like the only ones that could have a potential future. I know. The one wedding that we totally saw was Raven and S.K. And that one made me sad because I actually really think Raven and S.K. are a good match and it's just frustrating that he like signed up for a show where you get potentially get married at the end and in the very near future he's just moving to California

to go to school so if it worked for him it would be a long-distance marriage so I just felt like it didn't logically make any sense for them to get married at that point. I think Raven was hopeful that they would because she really loves him. And I think he does too. But I think S.K. He's a very logical thinker. And he was like, look, logistically, this does not work. I'm not going to be able to be the husband that she needs.

I'm going to be living somewhere else. She doesn't want to move to California. so right now it's not going to it's just not going to work. I don't know maybe if they can work it out in the future. I think they're still together right now. I think they were a good, I think they were a good pair. So

maybe they made it work. His mom was so cute. It broke my heart when she was being like say yes. She wanted him to get married and her going to see Raven afterwards and being

like, oh, we know we love you. And it was very sweet. It was very sweet. I thought that Raven looked gorgeous. She did. And I think they're still together right now. She did make a funny TikTok about Bartis that made me laugh. It was something like...

I hope they are. I'm not going to look because I don't want to see until the reunion. Something about making fun of his earrings, I think. Which I thought was pretty funny. So I'm excited for the finale. I'm sure they watch back and they see like the comments that people make and you're just like, what the fuck are you talking about? I assume Raven's like watching some of these conversations between him and Nancy being like, dude.

Get it together. Like, why are you talking about me so much? I'm not talking about you. Right. I actually loved that she didn't really give him the time of day. Yeah. Like she was like, I'm good with my man. Totally.

When he kept seeing like, you know, people see us. People, their jaws are dropping seeing us together. You know, we make sense together. Yeah. Shut up. I know. I know. So I don't know.

I'm a little. I'm working. worried about Alexa and Brennan only because the preview made it seem like something bad happens, but that could be a fake. Because they look, they've been so good that the previews want to make you sweat it a little bit. I hope so. I think that they're such a good like opposites attract story where I hope they make it work. If you're looking for a new way to get energy, look no further from Proper Wild. First of all, I love the name. I just think Proper Wild is a great name. It is a good name. You know, I will

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I feel like we were just doing this where they shared the passing of Aaron Carter at 34 years old the details are upsetting and sad and we don't really fully know everything but we do know that he has had a long battle

with addiction and mental health issues and he has openly talked about those things in recent years. His ex-fiance has also, you know, she's been posting. She shared a lot of this too being like, you know, got to the point where we couldn't keep doing this if he didn't help himself. And sadly, it just seems like he never got to that point, like wasn't able to turn it around and lost that battle, which is just, it's so sad.

And once again goes back to this like the mega fame at such a young age and his family dynamic and everything that was going on. He's shared some upsetting stories about his family. You don't really know like the truth of all of it. We do know like in recent years Nick and Ashley filed a restraining order against him. And so I think things got really, really messy towards the end, which is just it's so sad. Nick and Ashley have both shared their thoughts. And it's just for them, you know, they just lost another sibling.

Right. It's awful. And even if they had problems with him when someone passes now, all of those thoughts come back to their head. Like, you know, what if we had made things okay? And, you know, if he would have gotten the help that he needed. And it just seemed like he did need help. And he wasn't able to get that help that he really needed, which is just so sad and awful. was so young. There was so much to live for, but he struggled. He struggled really hard. And I feel awful that he wasn't able to get the help that he really needed. Yeah. And so many people talk about, you know, you can't help someone who doesn't want to help themselves. And I think they have family-wise, I think they really tried to help him for so long.

And it just got to a breaking point. He just, you know, he just had a kid. in the last, I believe, like year or two years. So that's a kid that lost his father. It's very, very, very, very sad. Like you said, so young, it's so crazy because I'm 28. And so when I was 10 and he was 16, like he seemed so old and cool. And like, oh, my God, we're really not that age difference is not crazy. I'm like he wasn't that much older than me.

And I always think back to the Lizzie McGuire episode that he was on and Hillary Duff posted a nice message. She did. I felt like that was in just a couple sentences summed it up so well just being sad and being like, you know, my teenage self really loved you and you lose somebody like that that you were close to when you were young. And it definitely is very emotional. And the Carters have lost a sibling already. and yeah Aaron has made

he had made some fairly upsetting accusations also in the last few years so it's been very tumultuous for that family they I saw they paid tribute to him at a backstreet boys concert they're at a I think they're torn

they're in Europe right now I think they're in London and Nick kind of like broke down on stage they put pictures of him and the band all kind of said you know he was like all of our little brothers. So yeah.

Yeah. Just another one that really, really hurts because it's somebody that you watch and idolize growing up. He, he dated all the girls that we loved and was in the drama. And we loved his, you know, had some of the best songs that bring us back to those childhood moments. And to lose somebody like that is very, very sad.

I know that it was like very emotional for a lot. of people, a lot of fans this weekend who grew up in that time. And he was very important. I think everybody had felt for him that it just had turned into the kind of a mess of a situation. And for it to end that way is the worst case scenario. And I think, you know, both his siblings and pose and said, hopefully you come to rest and that piece now.

Yeah, exactly. so just another really tough way. Very, very sad. All right, we got a great game of trivia with our girl, Chalcoutary Chick. We were dying to eat all that meat and cheese while we were playing. But her book is great. We have a great game of trivia.

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We have Liv and Chase, the Tarkooty Chick, who has brought her special board for us, or one of her special boards, and her new book, The Art of the Board, which we are so, so excited about. So Liv brought us a special board a couple years back while we were watching The Bachelor. And it was unbelievable. We've talked about it for years and years to come. And so we're so excited to have her back and to be promoting the art of the board, which if you love food, if you love making boards, if you love all different, this is it. There's recipes.

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So we have Liv, we have Chase, your fiancé. Yes. Which is very exciting. Quite an honor. Yeah. As you may have seen, maybe on Instagram. Instagram, maybe you didn't see it. We have suspended Noah for one game, a one game suspension for the amount of mistakes he has made over time and time again. Although we still love him and appreciate him as

our producer, we had to have the lovely Devon step in. The last two mistakes were just too close together. Yes, you interrupt. I was doing a grand introduction. So the lovely Devin has stepped in and she will be hosting this name of trivia. Thank you for having me. We trust her with our entire lives. And so we now trust her with this sacred game of trivia, Game 54. Welcome, Devin. How are you feeling? I'm feeling great. I'm excited. You look great. I've never seen Noah do this. I've only seen the final cut. So we'll see how it goes. I feel like the confidence is there. We trust you. We think you fact check. You got the pen in your hand. You're looking very official. And so we're very excited. Thank you. I'm excited to be here. Do we want to start with the Rotten Tomato score? I think we shall. Let's do it.

Wow. We're going to go easy on us, Evan. We're going to jump right in it. You guys are good with the rules, right? 15 questions. Practice all. Okay, perfect. And I won't remind everybody at home. Hopefully, you guys have heard me say it nine million times. So Devin will get into it. I just, Noah is in the room. I do want to say he does not have a mic that he has lost those privileges. So he is just silent, making sure that the production goes well, but he will not be participating. So Devin is going to give us a movie. We are going to guess, the critics' Rotten Tomato Score, whoever is the closest.

We'll get to go first. Everyone gets a guess, and we will alternate guesses. So, Devin, what is today's movie? Today's movie is Rattatooey. You love Ratatooie. I do. I'm going to be honest, I want to say, anyone

can cook and lead it in like that, but I didn't want to be too obnoxious off of that. Very on theme. It's also, that's been my favorite viral clip of the last couple weeks was the speeches of the guy and he goes, this is not ratatooie. The rats, the rats don't run the city. We do. We do. All right. You guys go first. You're the guest of honor. You should go first. Oh, I don't know what that. Okay, I'll go high. 86%. I'm going to go.

It feels like a perfect movie to me. I'm going to go 98%. Got it? Chase you're up. Wow. I'll go 97. Oh my gosh Strategic Strategic I'm gonna go 91 Our winner Chase

Wow What was the score It was 96 And he just I thought you were gonna box me in And then you would have had it Smart I thought that was coming to

I'm not gonna lie Yeah It seems like it had to be a high 90 Yeah It had to be It's one of those I definitely got too low All right first question to you guys

First question is from Lori From who knows where and she asks, Nick Jonas was diagnosed with a medical illness. Name the illness and the song he wrote about it. Oh, geez.

France can know this one. Do you know? I can't say I have any clue. Do you know Nick Jonas songs? I do, but none about any of his conditions. Limes disease. Song?

Final answer. My Lyme's disease. Incorrect. Diabetes, which changed everyone's life when Nick Jonas was diagnosed with diabetes. And the song is a little bit longer. Yep. Ding, ding, ding.

Yes. Thank you. Thank you. That does ring a bell now that I think about it. All right. Moving on to question number two. Kelly from Cleveland wants you to name the three participants in the infamous love triangle on MTV's Laguna Beach.

Oh, it's Stephen, Kristen, and Lauren. Ding, ding, ding. I thought that was kind of easy, too. They didn't even think for a second on either of those questions. It's all right. Can I ask the question? Ask me a question. Who compiled these questions?

No, it did. I did look them over, though, because I wanted to make sure that I wasn't jumping on. Okay, okay. All right. Back to Live and Chase. Question number three from Milligan from the Bay Area. She asks, on whose season of The Bachelor Did Ashley I, Becca Tilly, and Jade Roper appear?

I could be pronouncing her last name wrong. You're good on that. Beautiful. We're like new Bachelor Watchers. So like later seasons, and I know those names are older names. That was definitely before my fanhood. Yeah. So is it like season number or the name of The Bachelor?

The Name of the Bachelor. I think like the first season we watched might have been Nick Viall. So we're going to go there. No answer. Incorrect. Re and Frant. Ding ding ding. Oh, is that right?

I guess it's wrong gender. No, no, you like that? No, no. But yeah, so he was, Chris was a few seasons before. Okay. I'll give a, uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. I like the sound effects.

Things go a lot worse for you guys when Noah was asking the questions. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's why I was curious to see if he still compiled the questions. I'm going to be honest, though, when I was looking through these, I was like, sure I just had in a Billy Eilish? theme question just for like the heck of it while I have the chance. We're going to re and friend

now. Question number four, Addy from Mass. Who was Ed Sheeran's love interest in the perfect music video? Was it Ellie Golding? Because didn't he have, didn't he write a song about Ellie Golden cheating on him? Was it? I don't know.

I don't think so. Why do I think was Zoe Deutsch in an Ed Sheeran video? I have no idea. I have no idea. I have, I don't think I've. Because I feel like she did like two videos. Five seconds. I'm going to go Zoe Deutsch because I can't, I think.

Zoe Deutsch, final answer? Yeah, Zoe Deutsch, final answer. Correct. Yeah. Wow. Oh my God. This game is flying. I know.

The guys are on fire. I remember because remember we forgot to ask her about music videos when we interviewed her and then, but that, but she brought up Ed Shearant. Oh, I don't remember that. All right. I want you. guys to get this. I want you on the board. We're right where we want to be.

Yeah. It's, if we win, just straight up, nobody really cares. We're down a lot. And then we win. Then people are talking about it. Are you guys Harry Potter fans? We are. All right. Number five, Ashley from Pittsburgh.

What type of pet does Neville Longbottom have? And what is the pet's name? We should know this. Is it a toad? Neville's a very toad character. Okay. Who was the name, though? 15 seconds.

Not good. Five, if you want to lock in an answer. Wilbur, the toad. They are right, it is a toad, but his name is Trevor. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Trevor the toad. You guys are killing it. Yeah, thanks.

You know, I looked it up just for the technicalities. I was like, what if they say frog? And all toads are frogs, but not all frogs are toads. Oh, that is. Fun facts. I know. We're learning things. Yeah, we are. We're losing, but we're learning. Okay. Number six to Reinfran. Milligan from the Bay Area.

Two miligans? Here she is the same Milligan. Probably the same one. Wow, there's two Milligans in the Bay Area. Okay. You should know this. I'll start with that. No, it does that to us all the time. List the Jersey Shore members that have competed on Dancing with the stars.

Oh, the situation. Vinny's on right now. Has Snokey ever done it? I think it's Mike the situation, Vinny. It's definitely those two. I just don't know if there's another girl in there. I don't think so. I think it's just those two?

Yeah, let's go those two. I'm okay getting this one wrong. Okay, okay. We're going, the situation in Vinny. Somebody else in there. So it's definitely Vinny situation. I was thinking J-Wil. Let's go with Angelina.

She seems like she's more of a dancing with the stars person. You think so? Oh, yeah, definitely more than Sunky. Okay, we'll do Mike the situation, Vinnie, and Angelina. Incorrect. It is Snooky, Mike, and Vinny. How come I haven't seen a single clip of Snooking? I know.

On Dancing with the Stars. I think she was booted probably. I think she went pretty early. Wait, no. She was a cheerleader, though. She should have been good. No, but I don't know if she was. The height differential, you know, she's so short.

It's not good for ballroom dance. They do say that. All right. Back to you guys. Seven. Madison from Sunnyside Queens. The eye in the Seinfeld logo is dotted with what shape? This is so you.

This is, I should know this. I want to say a triangle. Wow. A lot of people are going to give me shit if I get this wrong. but I think it's a triangle. Okay. Final answer? Yeah.

Woo! On the board! Wow. Good job. It's specifically an upside down triangle, but we're accepting triangle. Okay. Cool. That was a pretty nice.

An upside down triangle is a triangle. But not every frog is a joke. Exactly. All right. Rian Fran. 8. Live from Queens, New York. wants you to put these festivals in order of oldest to newest.

Governor's Ball, Burning Man, Coachella, and Lollapalooza. Lala, I think, is the oldest. I think Lala might be first to ever happen. Okay. Then Gov Ball. What was the other one? I don't think it has Gov-Man. Burning Man I put before a Gov-Ball. I thought Burning Man was one of the newer ones.

No, I feel like Burning Man's been going on for a long time. Ten seconds. I think no. I think it's Lala Paloza. Govall. Burney Man, Coachella Burning Man? Is that your answer? Coachella than Burning Man.

Lala. Lala. Lala. Lala. Gubball, Coachella, Burning Man. Incorrect. Do you guys need me to relist the... Okay.

So, order of oldest to newest, it's Governor's Ball, Burning Man, Coachella, Lala Palouza. Oldest to newest? Yes. Governor's ball sounds prestigious like it's been powerful long time. Okay, we can go for it. All right, then I do feel like Lollapalooza. I feel like I heard that when I was younger.

Like, that's been around a long time. I feel like I've heard of Burning Man forever. Me too. They're all. Ten seconds. Wanted you, Governor's Ball first? Yeah. Okay.

Gov Ball. Lelapalooza. Coachella Yeah, I'm good with that. So close but incorrect. It's Burning Man in 1986, Lala Palusa in 1991, Coachella in 1999,

Gov Ball's the most reason. Govall 2011. I appreciate you saying we were close, but we definitely couldn't have been farther. You swapped Burning Man and Governing Man? I just, I didn't really hear about until more recently. Yeah. Burning Man, I think, is like the,

because it's like the OG like. Well, I was saying real. Dirty. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I thought that Burning Man, like, years, years later, they try and copy that. It has that vibe. Yeah.

It has that vibe. All right. Back to you guys. Question nine. Stephanie from Ontario, Canada. Woo! We're international. What are the names of the two mean girls on Hannah Montana?

I wasn't a Disney channel. Child. Um, I don't think I could even guess. Fran and Ria. No. Those are nice names. Ten seconds. I wish we were named.

Brittany. And. Nicole. Honestly, good guess. Amber and Tiffany. Well, we didn't even discuss. You didn't even give us. Well, you looked at her.

Right, but I thought that was like your final answer. Okay. I don't. I mean, I also don't know. Okay. Amber and Tiffany would have been my. Tiffany's one of them, for sure. You were close.

This is my strike one. Amber and Ashley. I wasn't going to remember that. I thought you were confident and that was like your lost answer. I thought she was doing the same thing as well. Noah might be back in. I'm fired. No, I thought the same.

That was with confidence. I'm tired of being second best or fake best. I don't know. You do not. Get it. Okay, last night was... Last night was a mistake. Ten seconds.

She says. Is it? He's just not that into you? Sure. Is that your locked? Yeah. I don't know the voice. Are we allowed to hear it again?

Yeah. I'm tired of being second best or fake best. I don't know. You do not. Get it. Okay, last night was... Last night was mistake. It's a big mess.

It's like it has to be like some movie where like they're pretending to date for like some reason. Yeah. You know? Something happened that was a mistake. Oh, mother. Like, they're pretending to date. Think out loud, Fran. Fuck.

I know exactly what it is. God damn it. Do you know? What's the Sandra Bullock movie where she's in Alaska with a guy? They're pretending to date? Can I have your final answer? She's a man.

Incorrect. Is it to all the boys? It is. To all the boys I've loved before. All the boys I love before. I took me a while. Finally, after the third try, was like, I why, that boy, Cisinao, no,

a centenio, I would, damn it. I would have never even seen. Yeah. You could have given us three months on that one. Same. Well, for many of these questions. Clearly. In the Lizzie McGuire movie,

who was the valedictorian that got sick and couldn't say her speech? I'm a big Hillary Duff fan, but I feel like I should know this. Shelby? Is that your final answer? Yeah. 10 seconds if you want to keep thinking.

I don't know if Jesus is going to know. I'm good with that answer. Yeah. Shelby is incorrect. Rian and Fran. Margaret, Margaret Chan. You know Margaret Chan. You're no Margaret Chan.

You're no Margaret Chan. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Oh my gosh. Back on the board. Fran is on fire. You guys are. We're feeling going to coming in today. I think of the little cartoon is having like that dream worthy.

You're no Margaret Chan. Back to. Rianne. Question 12. CL from Tom's River, New Jersey, asks, what was the name of the trophy slash award that they won at the talent show in high school musical two? It's not just like the name of the country club. I don't know. 10 seconds. I don't know either. I can't even remember the club, but something springs, right? Lava Springs. Lava Springs. Lava Springs. Razzle Dazzle award. By word. Razzle Dazzle?

Yes. Incorrect. Live and Chase? Can you ask the question again? Yes. What was the name of the trophy slash award that they won at the talent show in High School Musical 2?

Did you see any of those? No, I did not. It's not the Razzle Dousal Award. I can rule that one. Okay. Should have been. Yeah. We can go off of what there's Cedar Springs.

Sensation. No. Talent. Cedar Springs Talent Award. Final answer? Yes. Incorrect. You're just there. It's the Star Dazzle Award. Oh, wow.

My goodness. That's really close. Damn. Star Dazzle Award. I'm just like almost there today. Live and Chase. Question 13. Addy from Mass asks, what movie did Zach Ephron shoot instead of going on the high school musical tour? 17 again? I was going to say 17 again. It's got to be like one of his first ones and that's the first one I could remember. Yeah, me too. I'm trying to think of there's other ones. So I'm good with it. that. Okay. 17 again. Locked answer? Incorrect. It's not because I was so young because I went to

the concert as my first concert ever. Drew Sealy performed for Zach Efron. Was it the, um, was it like he had to have been really young because it was like right around when high school musical came out. It was not 17 again. It was not when he was older.

Charlie St. Cloud was later. Later. Ten seconds. I don't know any of his early movies. I think it's the Oscar Wildman. move it out? No. Can I have a locked answer? I can't remember what it's called. Oscar. Final answer.

Incorrect. It's Shhh. Oh, hairspray. Oh. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I love hairspray. I'm so embarrassed. I love hairspray. I love hairspris. I don't I didn't put those two like time-wise near each other in my head. I didn't do it either. No, no.

He's my fit. Now that you're saying it though, I'm not like, yeah, like maybe a year or two later, my mom took me to see hairspray. Exactly. The, the movie,

that movie soundtrack came out around my 13th birthday and listened to it nonstop. So yeah, that does timeline-wise does check out. Bummer. Wow, I'm, that's,

I'm embarrassed. I'm not embarrassed. You shouldn't be embarrassed. It's like, it was a good question. Yeah, that is a good question. Well-worded, tricky wording.

Re and Fran, you guys again, charity from Troutman, North Carolina. What spell does Harry cast to summon his broomstick in the first round of the Tri-Wizard tournament? Why two Harry Potter questions, Nella? Why? We told you, do not repeat questions. Whatever. Anyways, what is the answer?

I can't even remember. It's just that you know that I don't know. It's crazy. Look, how many times we have to tell him not to do two questions? of the same thing. I don't, yeah. All the things in the world. I'm all the things that exist.

Akio broomstick. Incorrect. Oh, that was a great guess. Shit, I thought that's what it was. Could we use like 28 of the seconds to see if I could find Kelly Key? I wish I could say yes, but no. Could you ask it again? Yes.

What spell does Harry cast to summon his broomstick in the first round of the Tri-Wizard tournament? Oh, it's a great guess. I can't get over how good of a guess that was in the fact that was wrong. I could have sworn that was the answer. It's got to be like a one-off spell. Like it couldn't have been like a repeated. Like, so I'm not. No, I don't even have anything.

You can I have a final answer? You don't have one. Okay. I don't think we can make it up. It's Akio Firebolt. All right, that's what I said. Is it? Yeah, but Firebolt, I said broomstick.

but the spell is ACCIO. Accio. It's ACCIO. Yeah. That's what I said. But it's okay. Yeah, but that's the spell is... It's the name of the broomstick. All you have to say is that. I say give it to show up. It's okay. That was the last question anyway. Nope. We thought it was.

Nope. 15. Okay. Back to you guys. Final question. Again, from Addie from Mass. I think she was here earlier. What quote is at the beginning of Paris by Jay-Z and Kanye West and from what movie? You know what song I'm talking about. We dance to one song and one song only.

It's from Blades of Glory. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Woo! Nicely done. That was good. Nicely done. That was clean. Final score is Ria and Fran

6, Live and Chase 2. Did you have to double-checked that? Wow. Thank you guys. Thank you guys. Thank you guys. We're going to skate to one song. Oh, I think that's. I think of it. Yeah. Give it.

All right. That was fair. Please ignore Noah. Devin, you did a great job. Amazing post. All done, Devin. Thank you. Thank you for having me. Liv and Chase, thank you guys so much for playing. We very much enjoyed your company. Our first in-person trivia guest. And thank you so much for bringing us these lovely books, the art of the board. Can you tell everyone where they can buy them? Because I really, really think people need these in their old. Good party. Good party hosting book.

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