Chicks in the Office - The Bachelor Hometowns Recap

Episode Date: February 24, 2021

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Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne, giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. We have reached Hometown's Week. This is the Bachelor Recap. Of course, every Wednesday we do that. We are joined by Trent. We are in studio. Fran has these blue headphones because we had a little technical difficulties. So nobody judged Fran for the lack of AirPods. She has them. She has AirPods, everybody.

But she's wearing wired headphones. While we're on that topic, I would also like to say that I own AirPods. But when we do cutting stems remotely, I wear wired headphones because I don't like the way. And I think Fran might be experiencing this right now where when I have my AirPods in, I can't hear myself. And I do not like that. So when I wear the wired ones, I can hear myself. And I know that comes along with its own problems where sometimes. it brushes up against my beard or I just look I just people are like people were like actually

Colby our tech guy was like does he know where the mic is on the headphones because you were holding it like sideways to avoid the beard I know it's yeah so that's the that yeah I try to yeah that's the yeah that's the reason I wear wired ones I do have AirPods as well Fran has AirPods we all have AirPods it's just sometimes it's easier to record without them I have actually the opposite so I can hear myself when I have the AirPods in and now with these guys I can't hear myself at all. I feel like I'm muffled. It's a weird sensation. Right.

And that's so strange because when I bought AirPods I bought, I guess I bought the more expensive version. Yeah. It's these guys. It's the buds. That's it. No, it just dunked on her. Those buds. It's just because of the buds. No, but I'm jealous of you, Fran, because I wish I had your AirPods where they don't have the noise cancelling aspect

because when you have those in, it is. Your voice is muffled and you don't feel like you're as connected to the podcast as you usually are. Right. I like to hear myself talk when I'm talking. I think there's actually an option in settings that you can turn the noise cancelling off on your AirPods. Really? Yeah, I do. There is.

We're going to have to look into that when we're done here. Yeah, we will. Okay, well, it's Bachelor at Recap Time. I'll get out in front of this. I did not really watch the episode on Monday night for good reason. I saw Rachel skydiving into the ground because I feel like that was something I had to tune into. But I couldn't pay attention to the show because I was in severe pain. And now if you listen to this podcast, you hear me talk about pain all the time.

Yes. Ladies and gentlemen, we've found the answer. That is exciting. I mean, it's very comforting. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a diagnosis. Yes, we do. And I'm hyped about it. Like, I'm in a weirdly good mood about this because for years now,

been talking about this weird stomach pain. I get it and it consumes my body for like it'll start in a mid-afternoon and last until the next day. It's like a 10-hour-plus journey that I have to get on like every other month or so. And I know when it comes every, every month, or not every month. That sounds like a period. It's like every other month. And then once it goes away, I'm like, okay, I got like another month and a half before this comes back. This Saturday, I got it. And it lasted until Sunday afternoon. And then it went away. And then it came back yesterday during the bachelor and I said this is not this is not right this is a two-far I never have a two-for I only have a one-day thing and it goes away this is a two-day back-to-back something's wrong so I couldn't pay

attention to the show during cutting stems I couldn't do cutting stems I was in so much pain I popped into the comments I was like guys should I go to the hospital yes or no people people were like yes go and I was like I really don't casually scared some people I did people were like Ria are you I'm like yeah guys I don't know I feel like it may be a gallbladder attack from what I'm looking up on the web that's what it's saying and I don't like to say Google's right all the time because usually it will tell you

you're dying when you Google but I was like something about this seems right I've had every other thing checked that every other thing checked this is the only thing I haven't had checked and then boom I got checked this morning they're like you gotta have that shit removed Trent ever so ever so nicely named her Gabby

you said GB yeah and the you kept calling it GB and the first name that came to mind was Gabby yeah and so Gabby is her name been a pain in your side, literally. Literally, Gabby's been a pain, and now we have it. I got to get her removed. So my stomach doctor says, and so fine.

She said that I got sludge on that thing. She said not stone, sledge sounds disgusting. She said it's not quite stones, but it's sand. So it's almost stones. Purpose of it. There is not. It's like, it helps your digestive track in some way. It does something what breaks down bile or something like you don't need it, but it does

help. So I don't know. If you're going to come in my DMs and tell me that it's going to be worse after, please don't do that because I've had already a lot of people doing that to me being like, oh no, something's going to feel way worse after. And I'm like, well, then what's the point of getting it removed? I think you just have to be very careful, even more careful, I think, about what you eat. Yeah. Post surgery. Right. Which sucks. There's, I was going to, that's what I was going to say. There's nothing worse than having to be like, have to watch what you eat because there's nothing better than just eating like pure garbage all the time. You guys both know me. I eat pure garbage all the time. I love pure trashy fucking garbage.

I was telling you. I love it. Ten spicy chicken nuggets from Wendy's a frosty, a large fry, a big old junior bacon cheeseburger, fucking big Mac from McDonald's, sticky's chicken fingers that you put into that sweet chili sauce. So good. Oh, honey mustard. I fucking love dipping chicken tenders in honey mustard. By the way, which all makes sense because want to hear what I had this weekend to eat. On Friday, I had hot dogs for lunch. Then I went to Nobu, so I had like a variety of like salty fish and and wagoo tacos. Then I had chicken tenders and then a grilled cheese. On Saturday, I had fried chicken and waffles. Then I made cassidia. at night, which I did two days in a row because I did that Sunday night, even after having

my stomach hurt. What else did I? I just, I just eat. Oh, yesterday for lunch, I decided I'm going to have a burrito from Chipotle for lunch. I'm going to have a burrito. And then I'm going to go home and I'm going to fry chicken with lemon and butter and garlic and onions and oil and just fucking fry that shit and then have to get G. So that's right I'm at.

Good for you. That was a good run. That's a good run of food. Yeah, it's been fun. but apparently it has to end. Yeah. Some might say that has contributed to said sludge. Yeah, it's sludgy in there.

For sure. That would equal sludge. It's an unbelievable word being used by a doctor. Yeah. Well, she didn't look at, now people are tuning in for the Bachelor recap, but whatever. Yeah, yeah. She didn't look, because when you go get like an ultrasound, it's at a different place than your actual doctor. They have to send it over, whatever.

She didn't look at it before she talked to me. So as she was talking to me, she was like, oh it looks sludgy like it looks like you have sludge on there oh good she was like and it's not yeah and I was like oh yes I was hyped I was like you know what thank you because I don't feel crazy anymore just needed an answer like I was starting to feel like a hypochondriac a little bit you know like just complaining about things all the time and not having an answer and and the doctor and the doctor being like well we don't see anything wrong and me being like well what I'm I literally can't move I'm in so much pain and even I was texting my family about

today my dad was like, to be honest, I really hope they find something because this is getting, it's getting a bit annoying. Fran was saying, it's like, it's like, it's annoying everyone now. Yeah, it's great to have an answer like that. And it's a, it's a very fixable answer. Yeah, and I've always wanted to have, I was always jealous of the people that got appendicitis. You know, they got their appendix removed and was like, I got my, oh, I'm walking around with one less organ than everybody else and I don't need it.

It's like, that's cool. I, like, I now have, I am now a gallbladder list. Not now. I have to schedule it and everything. But I will be one less organ. Yeah. Almost there. One less lonely organ.

I would be one less lonely. Who are these people in your life bragging about not having their appendixes? Well, I will say my friend in high school when she got her appendix taken out. I was going to say it sounds like she got one person. Yeah. Like one friend. Yeah. One friend in high school, she got her appendix taken out.

It was like, I specifically remember being such a funny thing that she would just always be like, well, I got my appendix. My appendix taken out. And it was like, fuck. Like, you got a week off of school. And I guess it seemed cooler because you get a week off of school. Yeah. You give you a little pain medication. You eat, you know, your mom takes care of you.

And it's like every, you know, it's for like a week. You get like a little weak vacation of being sick. And so I feel like I was always into that. Yeah. So now I'm like, this may answer the problem. I have an answer. Finally, I don't feel crazy. And also I'm getting like, oh, a fun little week where I get my gallbladder taken out.

And like Hank is going to take care of you. Yes. I don't have to walk Norman or, you know, like that type of thing. Like I get like a week, a week off. Although I say that that's the positive way to look at it. I'm going to be in severe pain probably afterwards. It's going to be uncomfortable to sleep. I'm not going to be able to eat a lot of things. I'm probably going to be miserable.

So let's be real about that. But I'm the girl with no gallbladder. You got no answer. I got an answer. Get out of here, Gabby. Yeah. See you, Gabs. Nobody wants to anymore

You guys should get yours out too We could all be matching I'm surprised I don't have that problem Because I'm similar to you where I just eat Like garbage all the time And sometimes it's the only thing that makes me Truly happy at times Chips and dig

Yeah I had a lot of that too When you would come over for the Super Bowl And you got I went and got chips And you were like get chips And French onion dip And I hadn't had French onion dip

In a very long time And now I can't stop buying it. It's a problem now. It's so fucking good. I literally ate a whole thing of it this week. That's why G.B.'s happening. What type of chips do you like to have? Like ruffles? Ruffles. Trent likes the sour cream and and cheddar one, which was the first time I had it. It was fucking bomb the other night. I had them. I was like, oh my God. But yeah, no, like, Trump, we should have been in the hospital after what we ate that day. Hallipino, peppers, mozzarella sticks, rice balls, pizza, garlic bread. Like, are you kidding me? We're a bunch of

trash cans. Yeah, so I feel like my gallbladder has got to be coming out at some point. But I'm just going to ride this wave until they have to take my gallbladder out. Everyone's so lucky that doesn't have a gallbladder problem. You got an answer, though. We're good. Yeah, we got an answer. And so that is the reason I did not watch Monday night's episode of The Bachelor.

So I'm here for moral support. Yeah, we're just, I was like, went through that whole thing. And yeah, that's the reason why I wasn't watching the Bachelor. Like could not be any more me to be that traumatic about my gallblotter. Oh, man. But you know what? Honestly, from from your person. Fran, ever since you met me, Fran, ever since you met me, how have I been complaining

about the stomach pain? Ria has constantly been in pain where it's frustrating as a friend. And I think people who know you can agree with you, agree with me where it was like, fucking figure out what's wrong with you. Like we're still like, come on. But it wasn't even your fault because you were like, you spend time in the hospital. You went to other doctors and they were like, ah, we, we don't know. I like to add, I have two other problems.

Now, I don't, it's not just my gallbladder. I have endometriosis and I have pelvic congestion syndrome. So add that all with my gallbladder, the girl's going to be in pain. Okay. The girl's going to be in pain. Right. Absolutely. And some of the pain you might.

It lowers your quality of life. Right. Right. So endometriosis is going to give you tons of pain. Like that's endometheus is going to do that. So now finding out that there is actually something concrete. I got varicose veins. Who has varicose veins on their ovaries?

I do. So I'm in pain. So knowing that you now can do something to lift some of the pain, it's a relief. Did you think we were playing footsie? No, my feet are very much under my chair. No, no, I didn't. Are you sure? Oh, France out of the room.

Okay, let's start the Bachelor Recap. Guys, come on. Don't get too crazy while I'm not there. Okay. We're going to get into our Bachelor recap. Home towns. Before we get into the dates, Ria and I have a very exciting new sponsor that we're super,

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We're recording later than we normally do, and I think everybody is just kind of getting, is just getting a little giggly. So let's get into the first hometown. Michelle went first. It was very, very sweet. The whole date was adorable. They wore matching outfits, which was not planned,

but like they were, And the exact same shade of blue and black pants. It was a little bit of like a siblings or dating vibe. I can't believe I'm already going to go off topic. And we started two seconds into this. But have either of you guys ever seen the siblings or dating Instagram account? That's what it's called. You told me to look this up.

And one day I was like, what was that Instagram friend told me to look up? You and your siblings were talking about it. Thank you. I'm going to do that right now while you guys talk about the match. I've never heard of it. I've never heard of that. Oh, it's a ton of fun. It's basically like a guessing game.

They post on their stories every day a couple. And you have to guess like if a couple, it's either, they're either siblings or they're dating. So you have to guess from the picture if the people in the photo are siblings or dating. And it's hilarious because so most of the time like you think you're right. And then they're like, nope, that's a couple. You're like, oh, those two are definitely. siblings. And then it's like, nope, they're a couple. So it's fun. It's a lot of fun. You could go check it out. I think you can play it as like a as like a game. It shocks a lot of people.

That's an, that's an A plus. Yeah, we're looking at it right now. That's an A plus idea for an Instagram account. That's Katie, I believe, from The Bachelor. Oh, that's perfect. Katie from the Bachelor's on there. Not. Yeah, they, sometimes they mixed in famous people, which is great. Like they did, they had Lucy from Love Island, Ria. And it was like her and her sister and it was like siblings are dating. It's great. It's very fun. But this was like Michelle and Matt had like a siblings or dating moment in this, in this matching outfit.

And they got to go speak with Michelle's students over Zoom, which was adorable, obviously, super cute. The kids were getting involved. But, you know, Matt. It is cute having the kids get involved, but you got to watch out for kids when they ask questions. You just don't. You never know. It's not like.

Ria, stop distracting Trent. We're trying to talk about this episode. Oh, Oh, really? Siblings. I would have said, I would have said couple. I just wanted to show one that was like, whoa. That wasn't whoa.

Yeah, kids are asking questions, and we talked a little bit about this last night, but kids don't have that filter that we all have when you grow up. It's like you don't ask borderline inappropriate questions, but kids, they'll give it to you. And they were asking, are you guys dating? Are you guys going to get married? Like all these questions? I thought Matt handled it pretty well. He continued to say, that's a great question to these kids, which, you know, he famously on this show.

I think Fran got three, Ria got two. I got one, barely. But he does. He uses that all the time, but it was a cute, it was a cute date. Yeah, you and little, little Chris, I don't know what the kid's name was. I'm making it up. You and that student, same count on the great questions. So, you know, this, he was just, he's just dishing them out.

he's really he's really dishing them out but you know what they say okay like you said kids say the darndest things right so that's it was cute it was fun um they went to meet michel's parents who were just a gift absolute probably up there with the best parents we've seen on this show there have been some great ones but this was an immediate reaction of like these parents are just absolutely spectacular. I think, like, I know Nick Viol replied to one of my tweets talking about his parents being like, they're upset. But Nick Fial's parents also amazing.

You know, Nick's mom has had like 11 children. Like it's their family is massive. But Michelle's parents were just, they were just so sweet, so sweet. They were. They were sweet. They were adorable. Michelle's from the Midwest. You get nice Midwest parents.

You can't beat that. I got a couple of them myself and they're just the best. Like the dad was adorable and he's got a great voice and they're very supportive of Michelle. Like they have the level of skepticism that all parents have on this show. They're like, you know, it's a weird process. But we trust Michelle and what she's going to do in any decision that she makes. And they were just all around really great. One of my favorite parts of the date or of meeting the parents was when the mom,

mom was talking to, I forget if it was Michelle or Matt, but she was just like, you know your dad, he just puts me first in everything. Everything he does, he puts me first. And they were just so, so sweet and adorable. Yeah, they were, they were great. And you don't really see the parents with the automatic trust in, in this process. It's like, all right, we, we trust you. If this is what you want to be doing, we, we are going to trust you. It's just a sweet couple from, from Minnesota, Minnesota. And that's my Minnesota. Minnesota. Minnesota. And they were so great. And on top of that, Michelle's dad should like, I should tell stories for a living. I would like him to read bedtime stories. Like, he should be on the calm app. There is, and read everybody bedtime stories. It would be

super soothing. Like everything about it was so wholesome. Then they had them go outside and like shoot hoops. It was like a little two on two dynamic between Michelle and Matt and Michelle's parents and just seemed like they were having a great time. It felt like it was plucked right out of a sitcom. Just good old fashioned family fun. It's and come to find out later on, it's good that we had one, you know, seamless hometown with a set of parents because that was really the only one that didn't have some sort of drama baked into it. Michelle's parents were great, all the other ones. They were average, I would say, at best. Yeah, that's for sure. And Michelle's, as far as we know, in love, like she's down, she's telling her parents, she's in love, she loves Matt,

she's, she's ready for an engagement. You sometimes there's, you see some hesitation from these girls and we saw it, obviously later in the episode. But when Michelle's parents were like, is, are you ready for an engagement? She was like, yeah, I'm down. Like, I want this guy to be my husband. So Michelle is 100% all in. And when I say average, I didn't mean the parents were average. I just meant like it didn't go as well.

None of them went near as well as Michelle's went. Right. Yeah, totally. Michelle's, it was flawless. It would just seem like an all-around amazing time. And then we had Rachel. And Rachel took Matt skydiving. I don't know who came up with this idea, why they wanted to do skydiving.

They did get some great aerial shots of Nemecolon. So maybe that was in the package, the deal, the advertising deal that they set up together. Be like, hey, we'll go skydiving. We'll get some great aerial footage for you guys. The resort's going to look fabulous. But obviously the big part of this was Rachel just absolutely. face planting into the ground on their landing and what looked like was being led by a 13-year-old boy. I just can't get over that picture.

I really can't. It was the last thing I thought about when I fell asleep last night. It was the first thing I thought about when I woke up this morning. It's just so funny. And Nick Vial, credit to him, he was the first one who pointed it out because I completely missed it, didn't see it. And then you see it and you think that it's fake and that it's not real. But boy, is it real? that guy or kid or child looked 12 years old and it was just so, so funny.

They really should have used the ambulance in this shot. If they wanted to make hometowns dramatic, you throw the ambulance in the trailer because she should have gone to the hospital. The way that she landed, I have a slow-mo video on my Twitter where you could slowly see the way she landed. It looks like she broke both legs and maybe an arm and knocked all her teeth out. Her head and her face. Every which angle you look at this, it looks like.

Like both of them got severely entered. It is crazy. It is crazy. It was just like, oh, we're going to brush Rachel's hair. We're just going to get on with this date. Like, that's it. We're just going to move along here. Like, no dramatic ambulance.

Are you joking? Probably when they needed it most. I think they, what did Evan go to the hospital for on Paradise? It was like a little cutter, a little pain or something you had. Rachel, face plant literally ate the earth. And they were like, all right, let's move on. It is telling about the whole ambulance. thing where I think it was almost too serious for them to show it.

Right. When it's like someone, I think this did happen where someone like stubbed their toe and they brought in an ambulance. It has to be something like that where it's clearly funny. And this one, they hit the ground so hard that no one was. So hard. That they were like, maybe we will bring an ambulance in, but we're not going to turn it into a bit.

And no replay? It almost feels like they did cover up the injury check. They must have done a concussion check on that. But then she fucking slant. And if they didn't, they're probably watching it back like, oh, wow. We probably should have checked on Rachel a bit more. I'm sure they had to put her. They had to put her through some sort of like protocol.

Something. They glossed over it on purpose for sure. Because I think they, like they showed it for two seconds and then was moving right along to probably try and avoid this conversation that we're having right now to be like, uh, Rachel, like they really put Rachel in danger. there. Like that's, you know, when you sign that waiver to go skydiving, you're like, hey, I'm,

I know that if something happens, it's my like I sign my life away. That's what you have to do when you go skydiving. Click. It's just that was tough. That was tough. Faced it into that thing. They can't. And it was so severe. Boom, they didn't tease that enough. I have to say. Somebody tweeted to me

the amount of times they tease the fence jump for Colton and tease this one time. This was the like most severe injury. I've seen. I've on this show. That just no slow-mo replay. No slow-mo. Are you joking?

That is so true because apparently, and I had missed it, but they did tease it at the end of last week's episode. And then when they played it at the beginning of last night's episode, I was like, holy shit. Like it looked like they came in hot. But you're right. If they're going to tease Colton jumping over the fence or if they're going to tease Pete hitting his head.

Pete hitting his head or not, this isn't the same thing, but Heather's showing up for six weeks in advance. You can show us like a skydiving accident gone wrong. Yes. It seemed like she ultimately was fine. She did mention while talking to her mother where she said, I'm wearing a lot of makeup because I do have bruises on my face where it's just, it seemed far more violent than they let on. And I think Fran is probably right. They wanted to cover it up. They wanted to get past that as quickly as they could.

For sure. This is the cover up where it's like we can't even use this for. They were not happy with my slow. video. Yeah, they couldn't even use it for content, like where it was that bad where they were like, ooh, you know, Pete, Pete, they're like, ah, he's got, you know, it's a, it's a cut on his forehead. He's okay. We'll, uh, we'll milk the shit out of this and, and tease it a billion times. But with this, it seemed like a little bit more serious. And also just from the way Matt reacted to it, like Matt having this conversation with Rachel afterwards being like, you know, you don't realize your feelings for someone until you're in this moment.

Like, Matt was talking about it as if he just witnessed a life or death moment. Yeah. And he could not live without Rachel. Like, that's how he was communicating with her afterwards. And we only saw it once because it was like they definitely didn't want to show it again. And then, yeah, it was, it was, it became like a light subject. It was Rachel goes to see her parents. They were like, ah, we went skydiving.

It was, it was, it was great. And then she's like, yeah, you kind of had an incident. Like, she even tried to downplay it to her parents. I bet her parents watched that clip back on TV and was like, holy shit. Like, you, you were okay after that? I couldn't agree more. That was, I also took a video of it and I watched it a couple times. They really just come down so hard and so fast.

The, like you said, Trent, the screenshot of, of Rachel attached to this kid's, like the kid who jumped, jumped out of the plane with her, looks like he is 13 years old. He's wearing the most typical, like 13 year old sunglasses. Oh, like, yes. 13 year old that's six flags. Like, France are the best bar mitzvah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm cutting steps. I was like, this is like he got those in his, in his gift bag leaving, leaving a bat mitzvah. Like, and he's cut them on. and he's wearing double glasses. He has his normal glasses on and then the sunglasses over the normal glasses.

He couldn't see jumping out of that plane. I was really hoping, and it could still happen, but I was hoping that all of our tweets and talking about it and cutting stems and this podcast now, I'm really hoping the guy reaches out at some point and he's like, I'm 33 guys. Like stop calling me a teenager.

Stop calling me 12 years old. I'm a grown adult man. Because as of right now, the only people talking about it is us and we're calling him a teenager because he looked like a teenager. Yeah. Yeah. And then Rachel's, you know, the sit down with Rachel's parents was, I don't know, it's just bizarre to watch now, right? We're watching this with a different lens.

We Matt James put out a statement before hometowns. We haven't really, you know, he had posted on his story and support of Rachel Lindsay last week. but this was a full post where he talked about, you know, I think he said the incredibly disappointing photos of Rachel Kirkconnell. And the way he spoke about it, if Rachel is the one he picks at the end, it, the statement read like they are no longer together. You know, like I just don't,

if he was still with Rachel or was engaged to Rachel at this time, if that's what happens, I don't really know if he puts out that statement like he did. Yeah, no, it certainly reads like, I am single. Yeah,

if we all assume that he picks Rachel and this whole shitstorm has happened and he's seeing it, I think he even said in the statement, I'm seeing all this in real time as well. Like I didn't know anything about anything during the season, obviously. Yeah,

when you read that statement, it's hard not to think that he's definitely single. I would think if you read that statement, there's no deny in that. So we're just, we are viewing all of this through a different lens. And we're even viewing the hometown with Rachel's parents through different lens. All of this, it just has a different feel to it now that all these things have come to light. Right.

Just feels like the season's been ruined. Like there's just the sea, we, it's just not, not that every, I don't know, just like everything behind it, the Chris Harrison and everything that's happened. just has, like I said, we've said it on the show before, has made the end of this season feel so different. And the excitement is just, it's just not there. We know what's going on. Matt James should get a second try at being The Bachelor. That's what I tweeted that last night.

I said we might have to start over. We just start this season over. Matt James gets another shot at it. Or if things shake out the way that we think they shake out, is he going to hit up one of the other girls? That was a finalist or what happens. Right. It just hasn't, you know.

Because obviously if it was Michelle, it would be great. Everyone would be happy if Michelle won. But from what it's looking like, it doesn't seem like it's going that way. It seems like it's going quite the opposite. So kind of an unfortunate season. Yeah. For ending, I guess. I mean, like the second half of it and on.

And like him living it right now. Right. Yeah. If it was Michelle, I think they definitely would have tried to handle the Rachel stuff differently throughout the season. So we still have to see what happens. We haven't gotten there yet. But we watch this hometown with Rachel's parents. And Rachel's parents definitely didn't seem that into the whole idea of the show, which is fine. A lot of most parents don't, especially when their daughters or sons are on the younger side, Rachel's 24. So I think they were definitely a little more hesitant. You know, Rachel's mom was like, are you sure there's no red flags, no nothing, no complaints, no bad days?

Like she was really trying to see if there was something else going on. But her parents just seemed hesitant about the whole thing, which is fine. That's fair. But Matt did bring up with Rachel, which at least we didn't see. from with any of the other women that he said to Rachel like I didn't ask your dad for his blessing

because I don't want to do that with every father on these hometowns if we get to that point I'll call him and ask him for his blessing and she had said like oh I was kind of disappointed that he didn't ask

which makes me just think that Rachel and Matt on the side like Matt's like it's you yeah like you're good You know, because she's like, she was like, you know, I was disappointed that he didn't ask. Like she really feels like it's Matt and her.

And even when she was talking to her parents too, like she didn't seem worried about the other women at all. So it was just interesting that Matt shared that with Rachel and not with the other girls. Or if he did, they didn't show it. A bit of advice to the future bachelor's. That's probably the way to do it as opposed to asking every single dad, whether or not he can marry their daughter. It's, I mean, it's, it's probably more entertaining if they do it that way where they ask everybody because it is such a strange process when they do it with each of the dads.

But probably waiting until you get down to the final one or two and calling them is probably the better idea, I would think. Yeah. Keegs made a good point on cutting stems that was like, you forget that some of these big, like these are big life moments for a lot of these people. it's like a reminder when Hannah Ann and Peter broke up and Hannah Ann was like you took that you took my my first engagement like away for me like I'll never get that back what a disaster yeah what a disaster so it's it's just like a reminder that it is an engagement and you know I think every a lot of girls

think about what their first thing what their engaged first engagement what their engagement's going to be like and their parents. And yeah, I mean, yeah, first engagement, who knows. So it's, it's, it was interesting that Matt shared that with Rachel. And it's just become more and more clear. I almost feel like they're making it so obvious on purpose to just be like, yeah, we're trying to get to the end of this thing too. It is a time.

And it's hard to tell, right? Because we think we know what happens now. So we just view everything that way where maybe if we hadn't known these things, it's impossible to know. but if we didn't know or didn't have a good idea of what was going to happen, maybe we view it differently. But at the time or at the moment right now, it certainly seems like Rachel is far and away the number one finalist right now.

Yeah, yeah. I think I would be rooting so hard for Michelle, which I am. I love Michelle. And I feel like Matt and Michelle actually has the potential to be a great couple. But just because we're watching it this way, it's like, oh, that was great. but is it going to matter? I don't know. We're going to have to wait and see.

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And Matt was very open to it, spoke about, you know, being raised by single moms. And Brie really has let her walls down and has tried to communicate with Matt as best as possible. Because you can tell she's still hesitant. Like there's still times when she's like, I really, I can't believe I'm sharing my feelings like this on TV. Like I feel like in the back of her mind, sometimes she's like, I really can't believe I'm doing this. And I, and I'm here right. now, but seeing her with her mom and her best friend also named Brie and her new sister was incredible. It was so cute. That baby was adorable.

Matt might not be ready for babies, though. I don't know. He looked scared. And it's funny because he looked scared of the baby. And it was either Bree or Bree's mom was like, Matt, you look a little nervous. And he was like, no, I'm good. I don't know about that. Like, I'm totally cool.

Yeah. As soon as that baby entered the room, his eyes started. dart around. And he was like, are they going to, do they want me to hold that baby? Because I don't know if that would have gone over that well. If he, I don't know if Matt's into hanging out with babies. I probably hasn't held that many babies. I haven't.

You haven't? No. No. I think I was going to say, I think I would be just as nervous as Matt was. Not once? I have never held a baby. You've never held a baby? What in the world?

No. I've never held a baby. That's interesting. Where would I? I'm the youngest in my family. You have like cousins. Um, when I was. younger maybe I may have held one of them but I don't remember it not not recently not in the last

10 years I don't think I have been the last 10 years you weren't a babysitter growing up um actually no I'm thinking I don't know if I've ever held a baby whoa I'm trying to think I can't remember a time when I did it's definitely been a while since I've held a baby but I've like an infant we're talking about the baby I babysat twice for somebody my mom works with but the baby was already asleep. So I didn't have to go near it. It was just, you got to stay in it. You just have to stay in here and make sure nobody comes in and robs us and the baby stays asleep. I definitely do. I can think of pictures that I've seen of myself

when I was younger holding a baby. That's what I'm thinking. I feel like there's a picture of me out there holding my baby cousin, but I don't remember. I don't think I've ever been so close to a baby's face. Like I don't think, you know what I mean? You feel comfortable holding a baby today? Would I feel comfortable? Have you not held a baby like over the age of like 15? No, definitely not. Definitely not over the age of 10. Like, I don't, I, no. Yeah, I've got a, I've got a nephew that I, now that you guys say pictures,

I can definitely picture pictures of me holding my nephew, but that might be the last baby I've held. So it's been over 10 years. I guess, I guess just because I'm the oldest, I'm the oldest cousin on both sides of my family. Right. So I just have tons of younger cousins. Maybe they don't trust you, Noah, with their babies.

That's true. My youngest cousin is two years old. Oh, so you've held one recently. I held babies all the time. All the time. So you're like, you're like a baby person. You love babies. And I was a babysitter.

Babies. Babies. I nannied, like, before I worked at barstool, like when I was in school, in the city. I was like a nanny. to three kids. Of course they were a nanny. When you said... Some of us were like pizza restaurant hosts and some of us were nannies.

I was a security guard. Yeah. But when you said that you'd never held a baby... I was a pharmacy tech, but whatever. Nice. Yeah. It's been longer than I had realized since I've held a baby. Yeah, I don't know.

Matt's in the same pool, clearly. He looked at that baby and was like, I don't know about you. If we ever interview him again, we might have to ask. asking when's the last time you held a baby? A random ass baby. Think about it. It's not just, it's not your family's baby or somebody.

Right. It's a random family's baby. This is the first time you're meeting the family. Now you're holding their baby. That seems. I'd be worried about throw up like on me. Oh, that's the last thing. It came through my mind.

Really? A little baby has a little throw up. Just brush that right off? Brush that right off. They got the wardrobe in the back ready for Matt. In my life, what do I care? I'll just go home. I'm going to get changed, you know, like whatever.

It's a baby. It's a baby, though. It's throw up. Either way. You see, you've been around through. It doesn't hurt you. It doesn't turn into a blob of monster and come at you. It's disgusting.

And baby spit up is like. It's a little. It's like a little milk. Yeah. It's like a little, like it's nothing. It's like cute almost. Yeah. Well, anyway, Bree's.

Okay. We'll talk about Bree. What I do want to talk about is. is Bree's mom. She was fantastic. One of the, oh, Ria's coming back now. What's up?

She wants to say the nose ring. Yeah, there we go. And that's one of the only things I noticed about the episode. So as I was walking out, I had to. Fair. Yeah.

And she did have a nose ring and she had great advice. She just, all of the things she said, you could clearly see that Brie and her mom are very, very, very close.

And that was just really great to see. And I know she had that one quote. And I know, Fran, maybe you're pulling it up or you know it now. But the things that she said to Bree were just very, very heartwarming and they clearly have a very strong relationship. And regardless of what happens on this show, like they're going to get through it together.

And I think that's an important thing to tell someone when they're going through when they're on a show like The Bachelor. It seems like there's a lot of pressure all the time because there's cameras around and, oh, is there going to be an engagement at the end of this? So it's nice to have someone tell you like, even if this doesn't work out, it's going to be okay. Yeah, definitely. they have a great relationship. If anybody's watched Gilmore Girls out there, I saw a lot of people comparing Bree and Bree's mom relationship to Lorelai and Rory's relationship

from Gilmore Girls. They seem very close. I mean, Bree told us on the show. She said it very early on, you know, that her mom had, was pregnant with her when she was 13. So they're very close in age, extremely close in age. So they have this relationship where, you know, Breeze, and she talked about it, Bree's mom is now,

in like starting another not a new family because Bree's always be her family but you know she is a newborn baby like this is yeah and Bree is is 24 years old she has started her life so it's just a really cool dynamic to watch on television Bree's mom said to her worst case scenario we are mending a broken heart together and then and then they hugged and you know what it was just like the nicest way to put it because there's always so much drama around the hometowns and the and the you're not ready and I don't like this and and all that stuff. And Bree's mom is clearly real. She's a real life person.

She was like, you know what? Worst case, you have a broken heart. We'll fix it. You'll be good to go. No, yeah. It's very important. It's a very beautiful thing to say because there is so much pressure built up. And that's partly due to the show.

It's a show about finding love and finding and getting engaged and and getting married. So just to have someone be like, by the way, way, if this doesn't work out, we're, we're going to get through it together and it's going to be totally fine. Like, that's, that's a sentiment that I hadn't necessarily, I don't remember ever hearing a parent say that in a hometown and just hearing that like the light goes off and you're like, oh yeah, that's true. Like obviously it'd be great for Bree and Matt if they have that connection ending up together and getting engaged and married and living happily ever after. But if not, let's just, we're going to move forward. We'll deal with it and we'll keep going. That's great.

Yeah, agreed. And Bree, I think she was really working. up to that moment of saying to Matt that she was, you know, falling in love with him. She was getting to this point. And when she sat outside and told him, it wasn't a great reaction for Matt. Like I feel like Matt likes Bree a lot because on paper, they make a lot of sense. I think Matt's like Bree is the type, we have so much, we have a lot in common. She's beautiful. like we have this relationship,

but there seems to be, it's almost like what Serena P was saying about Matt. I feel like Matt's thinking about Brie. Like I feel like he's like, I really like Brie, but like there's just something potentially missing there maybe. Just from like, and we've talked about it all season long.

This dude cannot hide his feelings. Like he is not a good actor. No. As soon as Bree said it, there's been times when girls have been like, oh, I'm falling in love with you. And he's like, Thanks.

Like smiling ear to ear like massive. And she said it and he was like, mm-hmm. Yep. It was tough. Matt's been a great bachelor. And I think he really has handled it all very well. If there is one critique for him, it's that his reactions sometimes don't match necessarily what the girl wants.

And it's, we can get to it with Serena P. where her sister tells her that I just don't see it. And maybe you guys shouldn't end up. together and Serena P starts to spiral a little bit and she's freaking out about like, oh my gosh, am I making the right or wrong decision here? And she expresses that to Matt and Matt is just like, it's going to be fine. We're going to get through it. When on the face of that, saying that it certainly sounds supportive, but Serena P wants

more in that moment. She wants more reassurances. She wants Matt to seem like he's really like talk to me more about this and tell me how you're feeling when he's just more like, no, we'll get through it. It'll be fine. when that's not necessarily what someone in that situation wants to hear. Yeah, I feel like Serena P. And she had a, it seemed like a very solid hometown.

Serena P's parents are lovely. I wish we got more time with Serena P's parents. Yeah. We really only saw her mom because her mom was having those conversations with her and Serena's sister. But it kind of felt like, it kind of felt like a kit situation again, where Kit was like, I made it this far and now it's time to bail, you know? But with Serena, I definitely think she had feelings for Matt and it was there.

But she's also, she's also really young and she was talking about having that relationship where she thought like it was it and there was no problems. And that wasn't the case. She was like really crying. She was really emotional about it. I think she needed to work through a lot of her emotions with her mom to be able to come to the conclusion that like maybe one maybe it's too soon from whatever last relationship she was dealing with and two like maybe she was trying to use matt to to be the band-aid and it's like

matt wasn't really the right fit it didn't really click for her for her and matt so it was it was interesting to see serena work that all out with her mom and her sister because that's really all she needed and serena p is young too every talked about kit being so young Street, P's 22. So, like, they're sitting with her, and it just felt like her mom and her sister were both like, um, I don't know. This is a good idea. Her sister, no, no messing around.

They didn't even, they had just started talking and her sister was like, I don't see it. I just don't see it. I don't, you don't see. Her sister was like, something's missing. Yeah. Sorry, you're not like, you're not that into him. It was like, you're just not that into him. Whenever those moments are happening, I always picture the bachelor or the bachelorette, in this case, Matt.

sitting in the other room just sitting there like this is nice this is a really nice hometown that we're on these people are great we're all we're all having a good time and just in the other room she is bawling balling she is crying yeah just figuring out that she is not going to end up with Matt that as she said later on that he's not her person and match just sitting in the other room like this is fun I know that it's always a funny visual but it was good that she figured it out now that she worked it out with her mom and her sister because you don't want to go much further. You're about as far as you can go on the show right now.

But if you go much further, then you're really in it. So to figure that out now was good. Definitely. I agree with you. I don't think Matt picked up on it until maybe Serena was leaving that night after the hometown. And was like, hmm, that kind of felt a little awkward because we obviously see Matt go back and talk to Serena. And he has this sit down with Chris Harrison,

which I feel like was cut down a lot. I just think that, you know, we've heard rumors that they were trying to cut part of Chris Harrison's stuff out of the rest of the season. Clearly they're not cutting the women tell all. There were some rumors that they were going to do that. But clearly they're not doing that. But they show this sit down with Chris and Matt.

I wish, I know. I wish they did too. I don't care about the women tell all this year. I really wish they did. It's going to be a bunch of drama. It's going to be a lot of Victoria. Yeah, a lot of Victoria. Like, we've seen you, we're over you.

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He sends in some things are off. He goes to talk to her. And all of a sudden, we are in a alternate Bachelor universe where Serena P is actually the Bachelorette and she sends Matt James home. Like she, they sit on this couch and Serena had like such a

classic, I'm the Bachelorette breaking up with someone's speech. Yes. Where it was like, you know, she's been crazy and I'm just, I'm not there. And you know what? I just, I just don't think you're my person. And he was like, whoa, okay. Like, and Matt,

Matt almost chuckled it felt like because he was like, all right, this is happening. This is over. Not only that, but the silence after she said that felt like it lasted 45 minutes because he was a little stunned by what was going on. And Serena P was equally as uncomfortable because when she said, you're not my person, she wasn't even really looking at him because she knew how devastating that was going to be. And then Matt just let it sit there because he was stunned. But yeah, they did do the alternate universe thing where Matt said also, you want to walk me out. And then she walked him down to the car, put him in the SUV. And he had his moment that all the other contestants have where there's clearly someone in there with a camera.

And they're just like, what are you going through right now? And he's just like, yeah, wow, that really hit me. And it's that, listen, this has been just a crazy season and a lot of crazy things have gone on. But there's still little things like that that make me love this show dearly. And when they do that, when they, they, they clearly. literally on purpose said, we're going to make this look like Serena P is sending Matt home and we're going to make it very dramatic. Like, I love that shit.

I think that is just so much fun. It's a sad moment for Matt and Serena P, yes. But they got a little fun out of it by, you know, turning the tables, as they say. So I thought that was a really cool moment. Yeah, I mean, putting Matt in the back of the SUV and then filming him where he just sat there in silence, staring at the window, like he just got sent home from a one-on-one. date like it's just it's when you look like you just say in there like arms cross being like wow like that just happened so and it's tough because i do think matt likes serena p a lot i think matt

um serena p was was up there more than i i think maybe we thought and i don't know if that's going to fuck with him if that's making making him so emotional and some of these previews but that's where we end. They did the rose ceremony anyway. The three women were there. And Michelle, Rachel, and Bree all got their roses. Bree did say that she was like, I feel like it's a bad sign. I got the last rose. And you know what? If you're in that position, yeah, probably is a bad sign that you got the last rose. Like I can't imagine. Like unless Matt's trying to pull some little like trick to be like, I'm going to get my favorite person the last rose. Like he went Michelle, Rachel, Brie, if you're last in that scenario, you're definitely in your mind thinking like, that's not good.

Yeah, I don't, Matt wasn't trying to pull reverse psychology or anything. I think he, I think that is him power ranking what's going on the rest of the way. So yeah, it's now we, we're headed and do, I guess we got women tell all next. That's right. And that'll be a shit show. It's going to be a shit show. Women tell all fantasy suites and then the finale. Interesting information.

Well, the women tell all looks like it's going to be. absolutely terrible. They're all screaming at Victoria. The preview looks ridiculous. I can't wait to see what Victoria at this point. I can't wait to see what Victoria is wearing. It looks absurd. And then it does kind of seem like we have this moment with Matt and Serena P where they're like, do you regret leaving? Like, which is interesting because the way that, like the women tell all we know was filmed a few weeks back. And like what Matt's relationships status was at that time, like unknown. You know, like he could have come on to the women to all and talk to Serena and in his

mind been like, damn, like I could go for Serena right now. Like, I'm single, you know? Yeah. But we just can't know that and he can't say anything. But why would he go for Serena after Serena sent him home? Because I think he really likes Serena. And if Serena says, like, I made a mistake and the, you know, the show got too big for me. I wasn't ready to get engaged.

I feel like Matt would be like, okay, I'm down. Like I'm not really ready to get engaged either. Yeah, because dating on the show and dating in real life are very different. There's a lot of pressure when you're on the show to move very quickly along your relationship. If you do it in the real world, you're just kind of like, all right, this is actually how I want to date and we can take it slow if you want. And it's just very different. It will be interesting to see because I think, yeah, it's so funny that that was filmed a couple of weeks. go and then we're going to have after the final

rows where we're going to find out whether or not he's single, which I'm pretty sure that he is and then he can make a decision if he wants to call one of the other three girls and what girl would it be? I would love if he just didn't call any of them because it would be... It's probably

most case is going to happen. No, it would just be so different than what we usually get, right? Like Hannah was like, oh hey Tyler. Pete was like, oh, hey, hey, Madison. Oh, hey, Kelly. Oh, hey Kelly again. Like, what if Matt James was just like, okay, I'm just going to move on from this because I don't really want to talk to anybody. It's very plausible.

I'm not saying that they're great, you know, like Serena and Michelle's great. Michelle, they're all great. But like, it would just be fun to see somebody do something a little different. Like, you know what? And he also might just be like, I got to put this season in real deal. Yeah, like, I just have to forget that I ever went on this show. Why did I ever do this? Tyler, what did you make me do?

Like, they're probably, like, I don't know if this is going to be the, doing commercial real estate. Like, he's, yeah, like, who knows what's going to happen with Matt James after this? And that really is like. And it's sad. It's sad because it's like, you know. He got screwed. Yeah.

It's, oh, man, unfortunate situation. And that's why there's a lot of anticipation for a lot of reasons leading up to the after the final rose where it's, well, we learned today that it's not going to be live, I guess. So that's a little. Has it, yeah, rumor has it coming from reality, Steve, who was talking about like the Bastorite announcement that they are filming. No, we don't know who the host is or what is happening, but the rumors that they are filming the after the final rose this week, which means that it's not going to be live. It's like the first time it hasn't been live in forever. Obviously, they didn't do one last, they didn't do one for Tisha season. Right. But it's been live for so long.

They're not doing a live one. They're pre-recording it, which just shows how careful ABC is trying to be right now. Because they clearly are worried about having a live show, I guess. Like they want to make sure they want to watch what the conversation is before they put it out, clearly. Right. That's a little like, come on. Give us a live show. Give us a fucking live show.

Right. And they're clearly thinking because they're going to have to bring in some new hosts, which again, we don't know who that's going to be. Right. And that's a new host to who doesn't, who is not a, not known or hasn't handled a live show before. So there's, there's a couple of reasons. But I agree. I would prefer if it were live, but we're just not going to get that this time around. Yeah.

Yep, which is, it's going to be interesting because that's, I feel like how that goes down to is going to help decide who becomes the Bachelorette, which is also apparently. been delayed production has also apparently been delayed a week as well because they haven't decided who it's going to be yet so it's a mess not a lot of decisions being made over there it's a mess it's just been a mess for a few weeks really yep it's really been a mess so we'll be back next week to talk about the women tell all it's yeah can't wait guys who who who it's going to be victoria mj it's just going to be the whole the crew's back it's going to be the o g's just say yeah MJ

Victoria I mean we're going to have Brittany with the escort stuff With with Annie It's gonna be It's gonna be intense I I keep flip flopping

Because sometimes I'm like I'm like damn I really don't want this at all I'm so over it I just can't I don't care what any of them have to say But then I'm like Could be good

Oh of course Yeah We'll see what happens There's a small part of Yeah I'm also I'm a little for the women tell all, but I'm also not excited for them. Right.

Like there's never, they, if they announce like, hey, guys, we're just cutting it this year, I've been like, okay, that's fine. I wouldn't have been upset about it. Agreed. Yeah. Okay, guys, like I said, that wraps it up. And we, oh, my goodness, we will. I can't speak.

We will for three of us. See you next Wednesday. Ria and I will see you on Friday. Yes, Fran. Thank you for letting out the schedule. I'm going to