Chicks in the Office - The Bachelor Women Tell All Recap

Episode Date: March 3, 2021

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Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran, giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. We are so close to the end of this season of The Bachelor. It feels like The Bachelorette and Bachelor back-to-back have taken years off all of our lives. We have aged immensely, okay?

It's been it's been a while But we had the woman tell all Last night and it was It was something you know there were some exciting parts There were some boring parts Yeah you're right that I think wasn't excited for this woman tell It's um it's I think because we've just had so many We have had two seasons in rapid succession now

That it's just like we can't sustain this lifestyle We can't keep going like this We need a break We need a break, and I wish we had Paradise coming up, and we don't. We're going to have to go into another season, The Bachelorette, but please, God, give us like two months. It's like when you've been consistently housing fast food for months, you're just doing it for months, and then there's that one week or two weeks where you're like, I'm going to eat a salad. I'm going to just like refreshed a little bit. It just wears and tears on you a little bit.

They barely got two hours out of last night. Like, I could not, like 35 minutes in, we were all looking at each other thinking this might be an hour long. Like we just read the TV guide wrong because there's no way to read it. Right. Like they talked about Victoria for 10 minutes. Yeah. 15 minutes. We all thought that was going to be the main part of the show.

And they kind of glossed over it, which I'm still a little confused about. But it was, yeah, I was, I'm surprised they got two hours out of it. They really had to stretch it. It really, it really is bizarre. We'll get into all the details from the women tell all. But I think just, I just got to get out ahead of this, Ria. we might be fitness influencers at this point. When you guys hear our ads on our podcast today,

you're going to be like, damn, these girls are fit. They're living in a fit life. They're riding. And you know what? I'm proud of us because our ads, I feel like reflect that we're putting in the time right now. We have been. And I'm happy for us. Yes.

We have been. I looked at it, was like, you know what? We're using all these things. We're doing this. This is amazing. Yeah. I totally agree with you. Now, if this was like months ago, and they were,

growing these fitness. I would be like, guys, we almost can't do these because I'm such a liar, but me and you have been putting in the work. We have, maybe not a ton of it, but like a decent amount more than we've had in the past four years. We both know each other. We've been with each other for the past four years. We know. We know what we've been doing behind the scenes and it's jack shit. But recently, not in 2021. We've been going at it. So I'm actually really excited about it. I know, me too. And we're going to start off with OpenFit. Open Fit is awesome program.

It's all online so you can work out whatever time limit you have. They have 10 minute classes. They have long classes. But they have classes for everything. Absolutely everything. It's a streaming service. They have all these amazing instructors, strength training, cardio, Pilates, meditation, yoga. I love the meditation and yoga.

because when I go to the gym in my building, there's like a room that you can go in. You know, they call it the yoga room, but usually nobody's ever in there. So this is when I break out the open fit. And I'm like, let me get a little stretching. And then I look out and I'm like, do they see the yoga that's going on in the studio?

Because I'm using it. No, it's great. And those 10 minute classes can make or break a workout sometimes. When you finish with a nice little meditation or start with one, it's so great. Or if you're just in a time crunch, OpenFit is affordable. It's not crazy expensive.

Some of these gyms, like you don't need to go to the gym. You can do it from your home. You can do it with OpenFit. It's so easy and great to use. They got nutrition plans on there. And we have quite, oh, and I want to mention my friends and I have been loving Shea Mitchell on OpenFit. I don't know if you've seen, but Shea Mitchell has this four-week program on OpenFit.

She's promoted on her Instagram. And if you've seen Shea Mitchell, she looks fantastic. And I'd also like to add that I can. canceled my Amber Flex for OpenFit. Like I need to put that out there. I get DMs all the time like, give us an update on the Amber Flex. Like, I canceled that shit, okay? As soon as I talked about it on the podcast, I was so embarrassed that I canceled it

the next day. And now I use OpenFit, which is the far better choice. Far, far better. Way more options. Way more guidance. Yeah, way more guidance. You seem like you're talking to somebody who actually knows what they're talking about. Yeah.

I highly recommend checking out the Shay Mitchell program. It's very cool. It's a cool experience that you can get through OpenFit. And this deal is unbelievable. I'm not going to lie. You can get a free 14-day trial membership to OpenFit when you text chicks to 50, 50, 50. And if you decide to keep the service, the entire year is only trying. I want you to guess how much?

Over under $100 would you say. I'm going to say over. Under $100. It's under. The entire year is only $90. I'm into it. I want to start doing yoga, I think. There you go.

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Entire year is only $96. Just text chicks to 50, 50, 50, and always to standard. message and data rates may apply. I spend $100 on a gym membership. I haven't stepped inside that gym in 13 months. Hop on open fit. Didn't you get that bike too? Yeah, I got that bike.

We don't need to talk about that. It holds my towel that dries out before I use it again in the morning. Yeah, I get on it every once in a while. Yoga is great. I think yoga, you would love yoga. Just because it's so relaxing and calming. There was a stretch a couple of years ago where I was doing hot yoga at a place around here and I liked it. I mean, I almost passed out every single time I was in there because it's

110. It's it's jarring when you like it's like oh yeah. Okay, it's going to be hot in that room. Like I get it. And then you get in there and it is 105 degrees and you're supposed to try and move to the point where they're like if you are feeling overwhelmed, which they were basically looking directly at me when I was saying it, you can just lay on your mat and for I was, I would just lay on my mat for basically an hour. Because they don't like when you leave the room. Yeah. They get mad when you leave. Yeah. Yeah. One time. I legitimately sprinted out of there because I thought I was going to pass out. No, no, they just want you to just.

You get reprimanded. They're like, stay in the room. Because it's worse if you leave and then come back in. Like it messes you up. Right. So they're like, stay in here. But one time I did run out of there because I thought I was going to pass out. It's also calming.

I used to do hot Pilates and she would give like an inspirational talk at the beginning at the end of each one. So it was like, I just got to get through this. And at the end, I'm going to lay here with my eyes closed and I'm going to get body chills. The instructors on OpenFit give great. great. They really do. They like great motivating speeches so you'll be good. I think I need to wade back into the water with not hot yoga.

So I think I am going to try that. Regular yoga, you'll be good to go. All right, women tell all. Women tell all. Trent, like you said at the beginning, you know, it felt like all the drama was in the first 30, 45 minutes and then we were just hanging. Like there was no... They started

showing us new episodes. Yeah, exactly. We got to see. footage from an entirely different season. And it right off the bat started with the Victoria conversation, talking with Victoria and Ryan. But it was so limited that I don't know if they wanted the episode not to be about Victoria or if they didn't want to give her too much spotlight because she didn't really have to answer for anything.

She got to talk to Ryan about the, you know, the hose comment. And her response was like, are you a sensitive, are you like a sensitive person? So right off the bat, like it was like, okay, so she's not going to be like, I'm so sorry. I really messed up. Yeah. And she was saying, okay, yes, I called all of you hoes and slores. But you guys made fun of my bra. So that means we're on level playing ground here.

And I just brushed it off. Yeah. So you guys should just brush it off. And then I am curious, like you said, like I wonder why they decided not to focus on Victoria. Maybe because it was so crazy and she was so polarizing. that they were just kind of done with it. But you would think that would be something the show would want to focus on then. Because we would have been tweeting about Victoria like crazy.

Instead, we got 10 to 15 minutes with Victoria and they moved on from her and then everybody turned on Katie, which it was just very strange. Katie took the kind of punishment that we thought Victoria was going to get. It was a very strange role that everyone played. For Victoria, maybe they saw how much everyone actually genuinely hated her. was like, okay, let's not give her any more screen time because people are going to shut this off if they have to watch her anymore. Maybe that was the thought process behind it.

There was a point where Victoria was naming all the things that she had to go through on social media. Like she was like people were making fun of my eye, my bra straps. I legitimately thought she was going to say I was called the Coochie Monster. I was waiting. Like that would have been my finest accomplishment. I seriously would have shut the show off, walked away and said, guys, I'm too big of a star now. I must leave.

Like that would have been so good. Unfortunately, that didn't happen. No. I think she was close to saying it. I think that was, if she was like memes, I would have been surprised if there was a target. Like, you see those girls that chicks in the office? That would have been. And that guy, Trent.

That would have been quite an accomplishment for the group. Yeah. Yep. It would have been great. More great if maybe she said, like, you guys ever watched cutting stems? You hear what they say about me? Yeah. But you know what?

It's tough because, and maybe she spoke for longer and they were like, she didn't apologize one bit. So let's just make this as short as possible. because having that be her first reaction is as telling as you needed to be right she kind of said like if I offended anyone yada yada yada but to have Ryan speak and her I just spit all over the microphone that was absolutely disgusting and your hands are flying I am fine I was getting you're banging the table there's spit coming out of your mouth that was that was atrocious okay if she like her first reaction is to be like are you a sensitive? person though. Like you should just really brush these things off because every, and, and it's the defensiveness that is so unattractive and for her to be like, what else? What was the other thing she said?

Oh, she was like, well, I was called a bully on TV. It's like, well, yeah, you were. You were a bully. She has clearly learned no lessons when they were showing her highlight package. She was smiling and laughing and being like, good times for everybody. So it's she, they must have decided that she was just too unapologetic that they weren't going to use her that much in the show. And no, Sarah. So much of her drama too revolved at the beginning around Sarah and that whole meeting with Sarah with all the things that they said.

And, you know, Kit, Kit said like two words during the entire woman tell us. They didn't really speak to Kit at all. I was thinking about that this morning. Yeah, they cut it out. We saw her say maybe two words the entire time. But all the Sarah-related drama not discussed whatsoever. And I'm guessing because Sarah wasn't there. So they didn't even bother with it.

That's the vibe I get from Sarah. After the jeezy stuff came out, she got a new boyfriend. She likes DJs. Right. I feel like she's over the bachelor scene. I mean, there's been a lot of women that have gone on this show or men that have gone on the show who are here for the wrong reasons, people. And Sarah might be top of the list of here for the wrong reasons.

Like she did not care about being. with Matt James at all. Like she, that was like, I'm, I'm trying to be a model in L.A. and this is how I'm going to do it. She's done a great job of fading into the background because I almost forgot that that was a part of this season. I know. Like so much other drama happened in the house that I had forgotten about Sarah. Because Sarah was the first one and then a lot more continued to happen throughout the season that I kind of forgot that Sarah was even a part of this season.

So good on her for that, I guess. That's how long it's been. Right. Like, did they even invite her? Did she, well, that's the thing. If they wanted her there, I think she. would have had to have been there. Yeah, she has a contract.

Right, because we were talking, like, I was surprised that, like, once we got 35 minutes in the show, all of the girls' highlight package had rolled where it's like, oh, these girls seem pretty mean and they're bullies in the house. And I was like, I bet they regret agreeing to do this. But then you had said, we're probably contractually obligated to do it. And you're right about that. So if Sarah, if they wanted Sarah to be there, unless she's like, I'm breaking contract. I'm really just done with this entire thing.

Who knows? Yeah. I guess maybe they just didn't even want to go near that and focus on. The other drama that went down, Giacenia and M.J. had their two seconds that I can't even really remember what they talked about. It was so pointless. Let's skip over.

It was like, we're going to recap the drama that happened two episodes ago. MJ was a mean girl. Gisena didn't have a connection with Matt James. Both of them probably going to end up on Bachelor in Paradise. But was their drama that interesting altogether? And on the woman tell all? No, not really.

No. He just said Mari defend MJ. We were roommates. She's not fake. And just then you'd be like, I thought some of her actions were. And also, I feel like MJ said that she took responsibility or, you know, apologize or spoke about it with Matt. When on that 201, when it was just MJ and Matt. And I was like, did you?

Because I don't remember you doing that when you were with Matt. Like, I feel like she told Matt that none of it happens. Right. Yeah, I don't think she apologized or said anything to Matt. Not that I remember. I'm not going to lie. I do enjoy when they cut the highlight footage together and they put the footage of MJ straight up saying like, so glad it's the varsity squad here tonight right into her being like, I never said that.

That is. That's a stroke of genius from the editors. Yeah. It's like, okay, it's just funny when you're, it's like you're on TV. You can't lie about saying things. They have the footage. of it. Crazy.

Yeah. I do want to say that, going back to Katie for a second, they, they, the other girls in the house really held on to the logic that pointing out the bullying to Matt is more, is worse than the actual bullying itself. I don't, they, I thought between the show airing, everyone watching it and then them filming this women tell all that the girls would see it and say, oh, that's, that's not the right thing. That's, that's not correct.

They just doubled and tripled down on it saying, no, the, the cause of all. all the drama in the house, or most of it, was Katie going to Matt and saying there's a lot of bullying going on this house? You should probably address it. And that's going to make everyone turn on them and think, oh, these girls are mean girls. We thought they were mean girls during the season. And now we are reaffirming or they're reaffirming to us that they are because now they're teaming up against Katie again.

It was really a strange, it was strange for them to take that angle and they just stuck with it through the end. In my opinion, I think these girls have got to be pissed that. they have been labeled the mean girls that this season was just so full of drama that they all looked so bitchy and like and that's the whole storyline for the whole season so it makes me think that they are on the defense because maybe they're like we had better times there were moments that you guys didn't see where we all got along but instead it's like when you're breaking up with somebody and the person you're breaking up with is only thinking of all the good

times and the person who's breaking up with them is only thinking of all the bad times. Literally, I think that's what some of the girls were trying to be like, remember the good times? Like there were some good times because they all came off the show not looking great. And they're probably pissed that Katie is getting all this credit for standing up and talking about it. And the public has applauded her for it. So I'm just thinking that all these girls are pissed that they're like, okay, we're the mean girls now like, thanks Katie. Like this is all Katie's fault. So they all ganged up on Katie saying like, hey, you shouldn't have said anything.

But Katie still should have said something because what Katie, Katie's talking to Matt was the catalyst for getting all of those girls sent home. And all those girls needed to be sent home. Yeah. It very much feels like where Veronica was saying, oh, I got called a bully on TV. Veronica. Who's Veronica? Wait, what's Victoria? Why Veronica?

Veronica. It would be so much. Honestly, I wish her name was Veronica. Victoria. Veronica. Yeah, Ronnie. He's like Veronica. Damn, I wish her name was Ronnie.

That would have been awesome. It didn't sound right coming out of my mouth, but I was like, all right. No one has reacted yet, so that must be the right now. I was not saying. I was not saying where you took it, to be honest. You have never said anything more confident than you said Veronica. Yeah. I was 100% sure her name was Veronica.

It's like Victoria saying, I got called a bully on national TV when you were a bully. They're like, I'm being called, they're all being like, I'm being called a mean girl on TV when you were a mean girl. It does seem that way. Yeah, definitely. And, and people were talking about Chelsea, right? Chelsea kind of got in the mix going at Katie. And I think that it is hard when so much of what we saw was them being bitchy to each other. And we've, I feel like we saw like their worst moments. And they all had time hanging out together where I'm sure they all got along and had fun and these are their friends. So for Chelsea, it's, I would think like, oh, you know, some of these girls have nice sides.

We only saw the bad sides, but there hopefully are some good sides. But I think people, it looked like people were definitely pissed at Chelsea for how she reacted. I follow her on Instagram and she did post a story last night that, like, people were sending her. Bitchy, like, me and D.S and shit. She was like, fucking unfollow me instead of messaging me, which is very true. But it's just like, I think people were surprised with the way Chelsea reacted to that situation. because you would think, like, she wasn't really in the mix of the drama on the show. Yeah.

But she clearly was on those girls' side, not the other side. The thing is, like, obviously Katie was clearly in the right here. Obviously, she's more mature than every girl on the show. I don't think that they would make that edit if it was so far from the truth. Like, I think that is the truth. But I also think that there's probably stuff that we didn't see. Like, maybe they did have good times and we didn't see it. You know, they're not going to show.

Looks like they had fun of the group dates that they cut. Why would they show that? You know? That's not, we're not here to watch them of a good time. Right, right. We're not here to watch them all become best friends. Exactly.

So, or it would be nice on the next season. Yeah, you know, like a little refresher to be like girls can get along would be nice. Yeah. Yeah. I,

that would be nice because it also can transition into the Brittany and Anna stuff because Chris Harrison pulled Brittany up onto the stage. Which in, And Brittany is crazy that Britney, it's just her whole story. It's only revolved around this. We haven't seen anything else. They've talked about her, this escort rumor, all season long. And Brittany got to open up about how it affected her, how, you know, when she went home from filming this show, she didn't want to talk to her friend.

She was embarrassed. She was embarrassed. She wanted to talk to her family and how it really, really affected her real life. and Anna just sat there looking very uncomfortable and then Brittany was like and Anna like you didn't reach out to me after the show or anything you didn't text me message me call me apologize which is kind of fucked up I'm not gonna lie

I feel like Anna when Anna left the show when she had that conversation with Matt she knew she fucked up she knew what she did was wrong and it seemed like there was genuine remorse there so it's kind of shady to me that she wouldn't at least shoot Brittany a DM on Instagram to be like, hey, I know these episodes are airing now.

Like, I just want to say again how sorry I am. She waited for the women to all to give that apology instead. Anna strikes me as the type of person who's like, well, I was too scared to reach out. I wanted to, but I was too scared. You know, I thought about it every day and I just didn't. It's like, well, that doesn't cut it. Yeah. Yeah, this is not a moment where it's the thought that counts.

Right. Right. Yeah, she reacted like she couldn't believe that they were talking about it. Like, oh, I didn't know we were going to talk about this. When it was one of the biggest parts of the season, she was completely caught off guard. Maybe they told her like, no, don't worry. They're not going to talk about this in the woman tell all other stuff happens. Okay, great. Yeah.

And then the best she could muster was that Chicago is a small town. And every people talk and that's why, you know, there was a rumor or whatever. Chicago's a small town. Chicago's a small town. Hands up. I don't know if you heard. Chicago's a small town. If you know anything of.

Anything about the United States of America is that Chicago is a teeny tiny town that not many people live in and you know, you see people walking on the street, you know everybody's name. That's just kind of the way Chicago is. Everybody knows that. People talk. Like she was like, people talk. Chicago is a small town. Like imagine Chicago, what is it? The third largest city.

Third. Imagine if like people talk, New York City, small town. Everybody knows each other. Like you may think you know everyone in your, like I feel like Anna is saying like in her own circle. is Chicago's a small town within her own friends and like people, everyone knows everyone.

But you just can't be like Chicago's a small town. Like people talk. Like no, you don't know every 24 year old in Chicago. I know you think you do. Yeah. You don't.

Yeah. I think going into it, we all underrated that it's one of the largest cities. It's huge. It's massive. Like, it's a massive city. Population-wise,

it's huge. There's two cities in the United States that are larger than Chicago. That's it. It's a huge city. What are they? L.A. New York City?

I believe so, yeah. Oh, man. And the 2020 population of Chicago is 2,679,00080 people. Hey, small town. Small town. Very small. Cute little bakeries. Just cute little shops.

Oh, it's adorable. I would describe Chicago as quaint. All the baristas. Yeah. Quaint. That is the word I think of when I think about Chicago. Quaint. Yeah.

Yeah, we all thought early, I think most people thought Victoria was going to come off the worst because she had the worst season. But Anna somehow just skyrocketed past her. Had no apology. Just had nothing ready to say to Brittany and didn't say anything to her, obviously, since the show has aired. So just a tough look for her. And I do think she, it just seemed like she didn't even practice the apology. It's just she stumbled a little bit. And I do think she is very sorry.

and at least Brittany did accept the apology and it is what it is with the two of them and Brittany spoke about, you know, there's nothing wrong with working this, let's talk about this profession, like nobody's better or worse because of their occupation

and Brittany Britney's great. Like Britney seems great. I really wish we got to see more of actually Brittany and not just this storyline and I said on cutting stems like I would love for Britney to go on Paradise but I also would understand if she never wants to think of The Bachelor ever again.

It'll be interesting to see which road she takes. Yeah. Yeah. Let's change those Google searches. How do we do that? How do we get those changed? She needs to donate to a charity. Is that what you think is that?

Or come on chicks in the office and we'll like, that would work. Or get spotted out with like a celebrity. Yeah, she's got to go out with somebody. Well, isn't that like, yeah. Oh, isn't that sad though? Like the only way that like, yeah. Like that her name is going to be like scratching. Is that if she's seen a celebrity.

Right. You need like a big news story and that's like. Yeah. That's what it is. I know. That's unfortunate for her. It's sad the way it turned out. It's got to suck so much.

You go on the show and then now you Google her name and like it's all fucking articles about her being an escort. And the way everybody associates her now is like, oh, you were the girl that they said was an escort. Because she didn't have any like redemption time on the show at all. It was like she's an escort. Let's not show her. Give her any more air time.

And then she gets sent home. You know what? Anna really is a shitty person. Like when you really think about that situation and that's a really, really shitty thing to do. And I don't even think any apology is going to make her look much better. No. I hope Brittany comes back on the show in some way because like you're saying, Fran, I think she's

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You will not regard it. Go fucking do it or you're missing out. Go do it. Go do it right now. Okay. The next portion of the Women's Tell All is what I would like to call the Bachelorette Audition portion. Yeah.

where we call up the women of the show that had the biggest storylines and a lot of attention and their fan favorites. And they get to kind of discuss their future and their time on the show. Katie went first. And now the rumor on the street was when the women to all was filmed, they were saying that like Katie's going to be the new boucheret. It's going to be announced on the women tell all or this is how it's going down. Obviously that didn't happen. but at the time that this was filmed,

which they did slap on the screen, by the way. Like when Chris Harrison's face popped up, like it was like previously filmed on February 4th, 2021 to make it clear that this was a lot, you know, a month ago. This was pre everything that happened with Chris Harrison. That's why he's still on the screen. And Katie, like I think when they were filming this, it was like, okay, Katie is the front runner for Bachelorette.

Right now I think that probably has changed. but she gave a good showing. It was emotional. She was crying. She had a good kind of speech. She talked about, you know, being 30 and worrying she's never going to find someone. Also, like, she's still so young. Like, it's okay.

You know? But that is the prime time, like, Bachelorette speech, I think, especially when they bring up their age too. And they're like, you know, I just want someone to love me for me. And I'm unapologetically myself. And Katie hit all those points. Do you think they announced her as the Bachelorette there and they cut it? No, no. I don't think so.

I was thinking about that because she was very much. I think maybe they gave her like, not a hint, but maybe they were like, hey, like if this goes well, wink, wink. Yeah, because I was thinking about that because she was so clearly the frontrunner at that time. Yeah. And I know there were rumors that they were going to announce her at the Women's Hell of the Bachelorette. I was just wondering if maybe they had done it and they just scrapped it. There was no, no, there was no audience. So there'd be nobody who could say anything anyway.

Like her and Abigail really got like a Bachelorette cut for sure during this episode. Katie had like a sob story. Abigail had a sob story and they both came across great. And Chris Harrison kept throwing in the like, like what do you think? Like asking about dating in the future and just like, what's going on with you right now? What does your future hold? Right. And it's like, well, I'm still waiting for that person.

Whatever it may be. And that's always the open to like put me on a show with 30 dudes and, you know, whoever it may be. Someone was even saying on Twitter that maybe Because there was The shot of Heather that she was out there on stage with them That maybe they put Katie's part earlier in the show When it was going to be later Because they definitely cut

They definitely cut bits of pieces around that I think Right I don't think we don't watch The order of the show No Yeah Because I think if things hadn't changed the way that they have Katie would have been one of the last people we saw

Maybe right before Matt Where it's like all right, this is going to be our next bachelorette, but they put her before, and then it was Abigail, and then it was Matt. So it's just, it's always interesting to see sort of how they cut it and how things might be going in what direction. That's very true. That definitely makes sense because we, Abigail got up there too.

Abigail is so sweet. And she is, she's just like, I know something about her is very calming. I don't know what it is. But she was speaking. with Chris Harrison. I think we all learn from what she was saying. She's speaking about the deaf community and, you know, Chris Harrison put up those tweets of people praising her and talking about her being on this show. And Abigail, too, I think, is up there for a front runner to be the Bachelorette. I think people love Abigail. I think they would love to see her be the Bachelorette,

which I thought was very possible. It's the same thing. It's just like a, it just now the women to all in these moments is. such like a time for them to go up there, take the seat and be like, here's why you should vote for me for The Bachelor. Yeah. It really is that way. And I would say Abigail's right up there. I wonder when we're going to get an announcement on what is because they're going to start

filming in a couple weeks, right? Maybe at the final rose. After the final rose. Yeah. Which is now filming this week, I guess. Maybe it's one of the girls who's still on the show right now. Like who. Right.

Right. I would say it's Abigail. Abigail, Brie, Michelle. Probably, I would say, are the top three, I would think. Yeah. Yeah, I think you're probably right that they would announce it after the final rose. Hopefully. That'll be interesting.

And it just depends really on the, it's funny because with Michelle and Bree, I think it really comes down to how bad or emotional the breakup is, right? Because it's hard to spin the, oh my God, she's heartbroken and devastated into like, She's ready to be the Bachelorette. Let's go. Like, she's over, Matt. Like, let's move on. Sometimes that's a hard turnaround for people to get behind. Yeah.

Because you're just watching it, because we're watching it happen so close together, even though it has been, they're months apart. It can be, like, hard to buy into that. But I definitely think that that is a possibility. Oh, and I forgot to mention this. This is such a big part of the show, too. They, before we even cut to bloopers,

before bloopers at the end, Chris Harrison was like, let's take a moment back and look at some unseen footage. And there were so many group dates that we didn't see. Like, so many group dates. There was...

It was a whole other show. And I can't believe they just don't show group dates. I didn't know they do that. I didn't know they had dates that we don't see. I was crazy to me. I feel like this is one of the first seasons that they've done this multiple times. There was like a fear factor date where they had to go into the boxers, creepy, crawly things in there.

They were trying to get the ring out there. There was a pancake and beer contest that looked like it maybe paired up with when Ben Higgins was there. And that was like Ben Higgins did that squirrel fall competition, but maybe this was a part of it that they that they also cut. And then there was this like almost look like it was a search for Matt. Like can you find Matt in the hot tub? And if you find Matt in the hot tub, you get into the hot tub, like Kit looked lost in the four-ish, couldn't find anyone.

And then it cuts to like all Matt in the hot tub with like five women, just a middle of nowhere hot tub. I'm almost mad they showed us those clips. I know. They're showing us things that I want to see more of that. Like focus less on the Victoria Anna, MJ, all of that drama that took place and give me more group dates. Like the whole time we were saying,

we got to be missing something because you see. seems to have these connections with some of these women that are coming out of nowhere. Like, we don't see them forever. And then he takes them on a one-on-one. And then they say they're falling in love with each other. It's like, well, when did that happen? And come to find out, there's all of these group dates that looked awesome. Like, I'm trying to think of the group dates that we actually saw.

And none of them really stand out. But if them reaching into a thing with cockroaches and whatever, that would have stood out, seemed great. Like you said with the pancake date, like, I want to see those. I don't love the pancake date. Yeah. It bothers me so much. much like it we know and it's so people are going to say it's so silly but like people

die from pancake eating contests they do it it's like you're like you'll like laugh about it but I'm not laughing at a boxing mat you could die yes yes you can but like there's something now that when I think about eating pancakes I'm very careful about it like really I am I can die in any kind of eating contest any kind of eating contest you can die my chair can break right now and I hit my head on this table and die I understand that you can die at any moment I don't I don't You're not diminishing it. I just didn't know you felt this strongly about it. Just pancakes, so not like hot dogs. Because there's a story recently of a girl, one of my friends was friends with who passed away at her college because she died in a pancake eating contest.

So it's like one of those things that you never think about that. But when you think about like how, I know, I sound crazy now, like how dry pancakes are, both they do that have the syrup. They're just like fluffy too. They are spongy. If you were like, if you were like stuffing those down, they get stuck in your throat. Like, I don't know. I, when I eat pan, ever since I heard this story, when I eat pancakes, like cupcake eating contest. Yes.

It could be literally any. I appreciate the PCA because when I eat pancakes, I'm inhaling those things. And I don't want them to get stuck in my throat. Be careful. Okay. I don't care about much, but for some reason. Pancakes are the smallest pieces of it. Listen, I don't care about much, but for some reason, the pancake eating contest, I just, I just.

It just, it, like, freaks me out ever since this story. It was in recent years, too. So it's like, it's just a weird thing. I like the awareness. I like the pancake awareness. We got peanut allergy awareness, which is very important. If we can bring, you know, awareness to these causes, I think it's important. Right.

Eating contests. Dangerous. They are, they are dangerous, 100%. Hot-out eating contests? There's people that have, um, just from having, like, too much water. Like, I think, you know, it's, it can be bad. I do remember, yeah, there was, uh, there was, uh, This was a while ago where you had to, you drank as much as you could and you held it.

Yeah. And it was for a free wee. Yeah. That was a story. And you hold it. You don't, you can't take a piss. And like someone had hurt their internal organs and they died from it. Right.

Exactly. Like, our bodies are just not built for those kinds of things. But yes, they showed all of these group dates that we didn't get to see. Instead, it was like, let's cut all the fun laughter times. and just show the night portions of the group dates where all the drama went down. Them not showing us a hot tub in the middle of nowhere date is a betrayal to me and to all the viewers.

And not even like not even a one on one hot tub in the middle of nowhere. A mat and multiple girl hot tub in the middle of nowhere. Like there were multiple women in that hot tub. Yeah. Betrayal. It is a betrayal. Yeah. Hot tub in the middle nowhere dates

are the backbone of the Bachelor franchise. Yeah. In my eyes. Those are very important. And we didn't have them at Lakinta because of the pandemic. And I guess they did have a hot tub date. But if you're going to have a hot tub date in the middle of nowhere, I want to see it. And that's just what it boils down to.

But yeah, it really just makes me think in past seasons what other group dates have we missed. Maybe they showed more because there was less drama or whatever. But I couldn't believe how many group dates that we didn't see that we saw last night. They cut so much. It was really how they did. got through last night. Yeah. They had to be like,

we have to show these because we have 45 minutes of show right now and we have to extend it to two hours. Definitely, absolutely. We're going to talk about maths coming out

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who knows, probably a longer amount of time, right? Like, they filmed this show all day. It's a long time. And the amount of footage they had that they felt was usable was like 936. They cut to the bloopers at like 950. He was like worth eight minutes total with commercials. It really just drives home the point that he is a side character on this season. It's insane. It's so shitty. Like we didn't get to learn anything about Matt James. Like we,

Matt James was such a side character on his own season of The Bachelor. And they did that. Like they cut that to happen. We didn't get any great Matt James moments. He's barely on the women tell all. Right. The main takeaway from his appearance last night. Everyone was like,

look at that beard. Yeah, everyone was like, wow, James Tarden up in the building. That's what one person said. A big fan of that beard. I'm just a big fan of it. I know it's a polarizing topic on social media, on Twitter, but I just want to say that I fully support his beard. And he was on this show and he had the beard. Right.

And we knew the beer was coming. I don't even, it doesn't make a difference to me in one way or the other. Like, I don't feel passionately about him having it. And I don't feel passionately about him not having it. I will say I do prefer him Sands beard. however still looks great. I like a beard. My man's got beard.

Yeah, yeah. He does. My man's got beards. Not even a beard. He's got beard. He's got beard. He's bearded up. He stays bearded up.

That would be a great ad campaign for Matt James. Like not got milk, but like just for beards. Like got beard. It's just Matt James face. Man scaped. Yeah. Yeah. That beard, it's a good looking beard.

He talked about how he felt like he needs it because he's wiser after this whole experience. Is Matt James, I, you know, one day, one day we'll get Matt James's real feelings about this being on this show, you know, and this season. Because right now, I just feel like for him to be like, you know, I'm wiser after this season is like, yeah, you got put through the ringer. Yeah, yeah. We are all wiser after this season.

We all learn a lot to see. Yeah. Some hair. Oh, we all have some hairs growing on our face. Yeah, he was out there for a very short period time And nothing Like he He talked to Abigail a little bit

Like they She was talking And I thought that was going to be the most emotional Like them seeing each other again Because their breakup was a little strange And that his explanation Although he thought it was going to be comforting Was a bit odd

Where he's saying I fell for you So hard immediately And I gave you the first impression rose That I felt like we were set And then I went And I started these relationship With other women and it just sort of got away from him.

But she was just like, yeah, no, it's good to see you. Hope things are well. I learned a lot. You learned a lot. And that was a good experience for both of us. Yeah, exactly. And it was the only one that felt a little dramatic was Serena P. Because Serena P.

had her moment too to speak about leaving and the breakup and those decisions she made. And she definitely looked like she maybe regretted her decision. Because I feel like when she talked to Chris Harrison and Chris Harrison was like, I really thought it was going to be you at the end. Like you're like in your mind, Serena's got to be like, oh shit, I probably, I could have made the wrong decision. Like this could have been the guy. But she still maybe didn't feel it. I don't know.

I don't know. I think her mom and her sister really influenced her a lot. Right. And somebody asked a good question in the comments of cutting stems last night where it was, do you think Serena P's mom and sister had a heavy influence on her leaving? And if that hadn't happened, would she still be, would she be one of the final three? I think we all would agree that it's yes. I think yes, yeah. Like she was very much into it until her sister just said, I don't see it.

You don't seem smitten. I don't see it at all. And then Serena P was like, oh, maybe this isn't right for me and sent herself home. So, you know, I don't know what's going on right now with Matt. I'm interested to watch the after the final rose to get the information on what's going on right now. But I'd say there's a 15% chance that Matt James and Serena P end up together at some point. I think. Right.

I think there could be down the road. I think they could reconnect. Interesting. I don't think it's a high chance. I agree with that. I really don't think it's crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

I think it can happen. I think it's definitely possible. And then, um, Heather, guys, I, Heather, if you didn't notice, if you weren't watching close enough, Heather was at the woman tell all. She was seated next to kit. They cut away from her every time the camera paned too far to the left. But when they had the overhead shots, you saw a woman with long blonde hair sitting there. And then there was one kind of.

that went like rapidly around the group and it was like you could see Heather it was clearly Heather uh they didn't spend one minute talking about her if they they brought her there and I wonder it they could have had a whole segment speaking about Heather showing up and how that went down and they didn't feel like it was good enough to put in the show they had me second guessing my own eyes yeah because you spotted early on Fran you're like I think I just saw Heather and then we had people sending us screenshots but since they spent no time showing her or they cut her entire segment or whatever happened. They legitimately had me questioning my own brain and my own eyes.

And I feel bad for Heather, honestly. Like they bring her out there. Well, first of all, they tease her throughout the entire season to the point where everyone is like, let's just get this over with. And then she is there for eight or nine minutes and she gets sent home. And then they bring her out. They fly her out. They invite her to the women tell all.

And they just, they don't talk about her. They don't use any of the things that they potentially talk to her about. It was just, I didn't think I would be on Heather's side at the end of all this, but I'm very much, I feel bad for Heather after all this. They put her through it. Yeah, it was a really tough showing for Heather all around. And not to her, like, it wasn't her doing. It's not her doing. She probably was like, yeah, go to the woman tell all.

Didn't show her. She's got to be done by now. And if she's not, then she really is looking for some Bachelor fame. We were saying. She has to be, if you got done so dirty like this, you got to walk away. You just have to walk away from it. We were saying that we hope that she got a segment and just blew the entire thing up and was like, you guys did this. You guys made people make fun of me on social media.

I had nothing to do this. You flew me out. You wanted me to be part of the story. And that, like, if that tape is out there somewhere, bless you. Bless you. Thank you. If that tape is out there, I want to see it. We all want to see it.

Yeah, we do. Because I hope that's what happened. I'm with you. I slide it our way. We won't share it. Yeah. And I said this on cutting stems. I'll say it again.

the way that they showed some of these bloopers and the unseen footage is they could have cut a completely different show. Like the way, like the producers gave us one of the worst, like, drama-filled seasons as far as like actually believing in a love connection that could happen. And they just left so much on the cutting room floor that they could have put together a completely different show. Give me those files. Yeah. Give me those files. We want the Trent Ryan cut. I want to cut.

Me and Kelly Keogs, we want to put our own cut together. Because that's what's really interesting about this show is they start out with this huge, with all this footage, and then they get to whittle it down however they want. And they can make storylines however they want. I think it would be great if they let us have access to those files and they let us cut our own version just to see how many different ways you can cut that footage. That would be a great editing exercise. if it was like make Victoria look like the good person. Right. Like I'm sure there's a way.

Yeah. Like they wouldn't, I mean, they'll never do this. It'd be great for like a film class somewhere. Like if that's like, yeah, a college film class. And just to see,

even if you didn't give them instructions like that, you could just say make your own season and see how many different ways it can look. Different seasons you could get out of it. That would be great. Yeah. It would be very, very interesting because I think you could have

tons of different versions of this season. They did, of course, and with bloopers and we saw Jojo and Tasha had like a whole date. It had a whole, unbelievable. Like I think it was Jojo,

I think it was Jojo who posted on her story too. She was like, we came, we went, we made the bloopers. Unbelievable. Just a whole part of the, Jojo and Tasha showing up

didn't even get to see that. Yeah, I would have liked to see that. It looked like they had a funny interaction. They were eating something spicy. Yeah, was hilarious. Jojo couldn't handle it.

It's, Joseph's like, Tasha, do not eat it. It was funny. It was very funny. But, of course, they closed on a Matt James boner situation. They were in the hot. Who is he in the hot tub with? Serena.

Was it Serena? And Serena got out and he was like, tried to get up and was like, I'm going to need my robe. That's good boner awareness by Matt. And the reality of the situation, Matt James is getting boners. And you know what? I feel like we have talked about. this fact so many times when it comes to this show, like that The Bachelor probably has had to hide a boner many times. And now I feel like the Bachelor, whoever cut the bloopers has

caught on to this conversation happening so much. They were like, oh, let's throw this in there because it's here it is. Probably a sample of Matt being like, I need a minute. That felt like the most personality we got from Matt. Like I would have liked more moments like that where he's like, I can't get out of this hot tub right now because I have a boner. Everything else the rest of the season. Everything else was. him reacting to something and his reactions are a bit strange. So him, I would have liked to have seen more moments like that. And I bet there's a lot more moments like that.

For sure. We deserved way more moments for matches in general. Give this guy another season. I know. I know. Let's do it. I'm in. He deserves it.

I think that wraps it up. We'll be back next week for the fantasy sweets. I think we're all kind of just dying for the after the final rows at this point. But we got two weeks. We got the fantasy suites. And then one more week after that. get to the finale and the after the final rose. So we can look forward to that and see what happens in the fantasy suites next week.