Chicks in the Office - The Ultimatum Recap, Ben & Jen Engaged + Josh Peck Interview

Episode Date: April 11, 2022

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Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. This is state of emergency. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran, giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. And we are only a couple weeks away from going on our West Coast tour. So make sure you guys go to the link in the description.

Check out the cities that are still available. Some have sold out. and Seattle will be on sale this week. We're expecting a big turnout from Seattle, ladies and gentlemen. So get on board. I feel like a flight attendant right now. And I'm excited to start the show. How are you guys doing?

I'm good. I feel good. I hope everyone has a great week. We don't also, clarification, we don't know what day those Seattle tickets are going on sale. Just we're hoping it's this week. So don't hold us to that. We think it's this week. It should be this week.

But yeah, I'm starting to get very excited. nervous. I have so much packing anxiety for this trip that I don't even know where to start. Like, I don't have my outfits planned yet, which is giving this already stressing me out. And then like, I have to figure out the outfits and then figure out how to pack them. Is there any, any scenario where you check two bags, like two big suitcases? Yeah. Oh, you are? It's possible. No, no, I'm not. I'm trying not to, but it is possible. there is no scenario where I do that there's no scenario where I do that

I am far too lazy in an airport to be carrying out to or checking having to just worry about two suitcases scares me I know I don't really I don't really want to I don't even have two I don't even own two suitcases that are that big like I have a we got this though we got this packing

and a carry on once you get the outfits What about what is shoes You're gonna pack that many different pairs of shoes Well well what do you do like it's five shows do I I can't be wearing the same pair of shoes That's true That is a good point Francesca you make a song

I'm like pictures and all the same shoes with the same different outfits we're gonna be doing physical activities You got to bring like sneakers and stuff I know just in case I had another hike climbing another mountain Well, I heard there's like good hikes. Make sure you pack your own slippers. So you're ready.

Ready for some hikes. I think there's a lot of good hiking in these areas that we're going. Hey, maybe we should go on one. No, I think we should. I know. I know you're being serious. I understand that. So I will be sure to pack my workout shoes.

But I think, you know what? Let's get into the show because- Let's do it. We got a lot. We got a lot to talk about. We will be talking about the ultimatum, the new show on Netflix. So if you watch that, you'll love this segment if you haven't and you don't want to be spoiled. But don't listen to that.

We're going to be talking about Ben and Jen getting engaged. Will Smith is officially banned from the Oscars for 10 years. We have an awesome interview with Josh Peck, which was really fun, got to know him a lot more. And a great game of beat, Ria, and Fran where maybe some sour attitudes came out. But let's get into it starting off with the ultimatum. I actually have a huge box of clothes I'm ready to send to Thread Up in my room right now. I want to talk to you guys about Thread Up. Thread Up is one of the largest online thrift stores where you can save up to 90% off estimated retail.

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maybe one and a half. Not like couples that have been together for fucking 10 plus years. And they're like, all right, it's about time. These people, it's almost not, you're almost not ready at this time. Right. It's like, it was young, they're all like in their, most of them are in their mid-20s. The longest relationship is like two and a half years. And there's like 23 year olds making the ultimatum that you got to fuck that you got to marry me.

I was like, what am I watching? This is a 23-year-old and 26-year-old couple who have been dating for two years. And they need to marry me or move on. And then my initial thought was, if you're even coming on this show in the first place, you guys should not be together. But that is why we love reality TV because we got to witness some crazy shit. The whole premise was really insane. They had all these couples come together and then basically act as swingers.

where they all mixed and matched couples for all the same people who were going through all the same thing and then had them choose somebody other than their significant other to live with for three weeks in a trial marriage. And then after that, move back into the same situation with your actual boyfriend or girlfriend for three weeks and see how you feel. Like if you felt like you wanted to be with the other person, if you want to be with your original, or you don't want to be with either. The show, so we have, the first eight episodes are out,

which we have watched. So once again, I'm going to double down what Ria said before that if you don't want us, like if you don't want to hear about what actually happens in those eight episodes, watch it and then come back to this segment. Wednesday of this week, We get to see how everything ends.

There's like the ninth episode is like the finale and then 10 is the reunion and I think both come out on Wednesday. But it's like, yes, the fact that I just, I don't know, it's crazy to go on a show like this. The show is so toxic. It's so toxic because these couples are all so toxic. Like none of them have good relationships or like good communication or anything. It's crazy. when they were like mingling and deciding on who to pick, the fact that the fact that that table, when they were all making the choice about who they were going to live with for the three weeks

was so ridiculous to watch when Hunter proposed like at the table. And then it just felt like Nate, all of his choices were getting taken. and he didn't have anyone left. So he just proposed to Lauren. And they were probably, they were probably the couple that actually felt like had the most legitimate problem where it came down to one person wants kids

and one person doesn't want kids. Like a fundamental disagreement like that your relationship is not going to work if you cannot make that decision or like have a joint agreement. There's no compromise on, on having or not having kids. Like, because you either don't want him or you do want him.

And him just like, they didn't talk. They didn't go through the experiment. They didn't have the conversations. They didn't even talk to it out themselves. They just proposed after Hunter did. And everyone was like, what the fuck is this guy doing? Nate and Hunter were the most like two boring men to be on the planet for some reason. They were like this.

I didn't like made it bad. boring people I've ever seen. But besides that, yeah, you're right. The other couples there had problems where it was like, one's not really ready to get married yet, but one day they're going to get there. One is like, I want to be financially stable before I get married. This one is like, when it comes down to it, if somebody wants a family and doesn't want a family, that is a huge problem, right? Like you can't just, oh, never mind, don't want a family anymore within five minutes of sitting here. So I thought that was so funny

because they thought that they just copied the other couple and they were like, you only did that because they're taking, April flipped out. April flipped a shit. This was maybe the only time I ever really agreed with April during this show was in this moment when she was calling them out and said that

she's there for a reason and they should be going through the experience like everybody else and how they took away their moment. I agreed with April there. The rest of the show, Oh my God. There was not one person that I actually necessarily liked, maybe besides Ray. I think I liked Ray a lot.

Yeah. And even though I felt like she was a little immature sometimes, but nobody really was like, I really like these people. And I think that happens a lot on these shows. Like, love is blind. I felt the same way. This show, I felt that way. Madeline and Kobe,

Madeline's friend. I want to know if you agree or other people agree so Madeline chooses Randall and she's like so attracted to Randall and she introduces Randall to her friends Right and Colby's the one that issued the ultimatum Yeah he's like one of the only guys

That issued the ultimatum He issued the ultimatum he's like Madeline's the only one for me blah blah blah blah blah And she introduces Randall to her friends And she's like super attracted to Randall And then one of her friends is like, I hooked up with Kobe once. He wasn't rememberable. Randall is so much more memorable or rememberable.

I don't even know what words she used and I don't feel memorable, right? Rememberable. Yeah. That's not a word. Memorable. Memorable. And she's talking about how attractive Randall. She's like, I mean, I would do it if I was Randall.

We know you do it. We know you do it because you did Kobe too. You'll do any of Madeline's boyfriends. Oh my God. I just felt like she wanted her to be with Randall so that she could have a shot with Colby. And she was calling Colby not memorable because she,

Colby must have ghosted her ass and went for Madeline and she's still trying to get Colby back in her life. That's what I took from this girl. Those two just absolute craziness. They're not meant for each other at this point in time. Yeah, I, and you know, we had, there were couples,

get through this, I guess, kind of get through this. And, you know, we'll see what fully happens. But they were, these people are all so immature. And making these decisions in these relationships. Like, I can't believe, I truly cannot believe that this was things that were, like, happening before these people wanted to get married, married. Like, also craziness, because the show, the concept is nuts that they are like going out and have their phones and like living their life.

So it's like, oh, when they switched because Colby and April were together and they like didn't totally pick each other, they kind of like fell into each other. Colby was like going out and going to the club and hugging up with a girl. and then Madeline finds the text messages with the girl. And Colby's excuse of like, I did this for you. It's such bullshit. I'm glad Madeline finally was like, no, that doesn't, like, that's not a thing. Like, that's just not a thing.

And he just doubled down so hard and looked like such an idiot. Yeah, I didn't think that any of these couples should be together. And another note that I had was, why didn't they film? the in between of them going to the club. I know. You know, Jake was recording Ray's ass and twerking in the club. And they didn't have that. They didn't have April.

Zay's out all night. They didn't have Zay until 8 o'clock in the morning. They didn't have him out. They don't have Colby making out the girl at the club. I'm like, what were they thinking, not including any of this in the show? So that was one problem I had with it. I was like, how is this all, all of this happening? But there were no cameras there.

I guess maybe that's the only way they would think. that shit would actually happen. But still, we missed out on something. This could have brought this show to a whole new level if they follow them out. So I feel like maybe they didn't, though. Maybe it's like a budget thing. Like this is the first time the show is going to be out. So maybe they're like, all right, we don't have the budget to bring the cameras to the

club and shut down all these clubs and do the whole thing. Whereas other shows that have been around for a while, they can do that. So I think they have to see the reaction to this show. but I think it would have brought it to a whole new level. We would have actually what happened because there's a lot of things that she said. Netflix totally Netflix totally just like does this thing

to now where they just are experimenting with new reality shows and it feels like there are some kinks that they have to work out on. It's just like they're filming all these shows in Austin too and it must just be crazy. I feel like they're just filming different reality shows like down there at all times.

But not only did they all swap and live with different people for three weeks. Like there were clearly connections made in the other swaps. And for them all like midway through, like right before they're all ready to switch back, to have them have like a girl's night and a boy's night. And they have to sit there and talk about like kissing. the girl's boyfriend that's sitting across from you and they're like oh like how was like it was so crazy to me that these girls i i don't know how it didn't erupt in in tears cat like literally fighting i imagine you're sitting at a table and the girl across you're like yeah you know we kissed he's

getting hard in bed the amount of time these people said the word boner in this show of obscene Obseen amount of boners. I was going to break that up when Ray brought up to Zay that he got a boner when he was cuddly with Sheneek. And I was like, first of all, why the fuck would Shnique tell somebody that he got a boner? No shit he got a boner, right? Like, what I just, that's, and then when Ray was giving Zay shit for getting a boner, I was like, and he was like, well, you know, I'm attracted to women.

I was like, that is maybe the only time I agreed with Zay because I was like, if they're cuddling in bed and touching each other, the chances of him getting a boner just from the sheer fact of like, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, guys, their peepies are crazy.

I feel like they just, you know what I'm saying? I don't even, I just feel like they, there's not a lot of control over those bad boys. Right. I just feel like it just happens. And so the fact that you kept bringing it up.

And I just thought that was nuts for it should be to say. Like, I would never be like, he, no matter if this. Like in just a hooking up with a guy situation, I'm not going back to my friends and being like, yeah, we were cuddling and like he got a boner.

Like that's not groundbreaking news. Just like absolutely insane that they, the amount of times at this show said that these girls and got like talked about getting hard. Like it was actually ridiculous. And not even getting hard, but it was like boner. Like a heartbeat. Like they were like the word boner was said,

at least 20 times. Saying the word boner feels like I'm being like naked right now. Like I'm standing naked in an open field when you say the word boner. It just feels like it feels everything. It really just did not make any sense. So we now have to see like what couple actually works. And Ray and Zay, I didn't realize that those thought that was Ryan Zay. they're broken up

she clearly likes Jake we're going to see what happens there with April and and Jake I like the only couple that I actually think from the swap that I was like oh I think there is actually potential

is Ray and Jake everybody else I was like Madeline I don't think is ready for any kind of relationship Madeline needs to be single I like Randall a lot but it also felt like, you know, they, he and Shanique were getting into these ridiculous arguments as well

when it came to like kissing or just, just like being, there's just a lot of immature arguments, which is fine. You're allowed to have immature arguments, but it was just crazy that it's all like the, all from these, you know, wanting, wanting to actually get married. None of these couples are ready to get married. No, no. any way, shape, or form.

It was, and that's how you know. It might be Alexis and Hunter. Like, they might be the only ones. Yeah. From that early proposal. And we'll see, obviously, what happens from their reunion. But I would love to see, like, what Nate and Lauren's status is right now. And what's been going on for them.

But, like, after Zay stayed out all night, like, Ray broke up with him. and I don't April and Jake like none of these couples they don't none of them belong together none of these couples work none of them work Ray and Jake should be together

and they're not a couple they are soon they might be but none of them belong together yeah it's what a what a concept and they kept like referring to oh like I brought him on to this show

like this was my idea he didn't want to do it and then like that's the sign that your relationship is probably not going well if you apply to be on show what it's yeah that means and i get it like you want to be on a Netflix reality show because it does seem like there are some people that are maybe like want to be influencers or trying to be influencers like they kept referring to say like having your followers and being in like the next. nightlife world and then I think April as well so they're probably that's probably why they went on a show like this and dragged their significant other uh but and then like everybody's parents are involved like the parents are meeting the new people like you know who was so

sassy that I liked but it was cracking me up was Jake's mom like Jake's mom like meeting right was like so defensive of April I was like, wow, okay, well, Jake's mom clearly likes April, but all the family members involved, it's pretty nuts. So we'll obviously talk about how it all ends, but bravo to Netflix, once again, just coming up with another unbelievably ridiculous reality television show. We are going back in time. Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck are officially engaged again. again here it is got it happened i think there was like a overwhelming sense of not a lot of people caring and i don't know if that's just because they're a couple that's gotten back together so we're

like the shock value when it first happened was so big and now we're just kind of used to it but kind of a bizarre announcement as well. JLo did it in her JLo did it in her Jailo newsletter. So I don't know if she was also trying to get

subscribers. Absolutely trying to get subscribers. I think that it was a I also was kind of like, all right, they're engaged. But because Jalo's been engaged so many times now and also because they've been engaged before.

Like it was a mixture of those too. Like anytime it's like J-Lo gone gauge, it's like, okay, like Tristan Thompson cheated on Chloe Kardashian. Like you know that that's coming. So I feel like... And I don't know if they're actually going to get married. I think

they will. I think they will have a blowout wedding. Yeah, I... There's some, there's some... I've seen some articles floating around of like, why they're not in a rush. And Bennett always said like he wasn't going to get married again. And I could see J-Lo maybe just like

wanting the big ass ring to just have. This ring is insane. It's a green, first of all, we all know, like, yes, the iconic pink ring that was the first engagement ring that she got for bad affid. Now we have this green ring that is a eight and a half carrot natural green cushion, modified, brilliant cut diamond. It's, it is very green. You could tell from, you know, the videos you posted.

Do you think he went to the same guy that he got the first ring from? I don't, I, so I think he went to Beverly. Beverly Hills Diamonds is the one that posted like on their Instagram saying it was my honor to be a part of this exciting journey. So I'm not, I'm not quite sure. But apparently, and you never know, like this could be totally blown. up majorly. I don't know what it actually could have had a deal. You know what it actually is.

But apparently this ring has been estimated to cost almost double what the pink diamond was. Well, he had to outdo the pink diamond. Yes. So I saw something that believes this ring might be estimated to be around $10 million. Holy shit. What's the point of that, though?

I have no idea. It can't be that much. That feels insane. To me, a $10 million ring is like just a waste of money. Like, I know that money really isn't a thing to them anyway because they get so much all the time. But it just seems like a giant waste. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that $10 million for like for that feels like a made up number where they just like what, I don't know.

I don't know. I don't get how a diamond like that is so insane. But that's what it says, you know, natural greenstones with saturated hues are some of the rarest and most sought after. That's what the Beverly Hills Diamond Instagram says. So clearly this is maybe extremely rare.

And that has played a big factor into it. But damn, I mean, how I just, they're engaged. They're engaged those two. And I always love the jokes that's like, if Madison McCroy didn't get involved, she could have still been with Arod and none of this could have happened. Like this all truly could be traced back to her, I think. And you know what? I'm glad that it did.

Yeah. And like very happy for Ben and Jen. they make a great like i i think clearly they have rekindled and maybe this is some great grand love story and they're meant to be back together but um we'll see if they're i i'm not i'm not quite sure about an actual wedding i think everyone's on the same page where we all want a little boost of energy we'll wake up in the morning in the middle of the day just to get us through the day sometimes we got a lot to do we got to work we got a grocery shop we got to take care of our pets. Some of you have kids out there. You need a little more energy to get you through the day.

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That's what the Academy came up with. That's his big punishment. What is your take on this? Because I think it's ridiculous. A punishment is you can't win an award for the next 10 years. Like that's a punishment. He can still win. He can still be nominated and win.

He just doesn't have to fucking go to the ceremony. Like, I am, I think that they're almost better doing nothing sometimes. I know. This almost seems worse. Like, it's like at this point, they weekend update actually had a, they had a funny joke about this. Colin Joe's talking about it of just being like, his punishment is he doesn't have to sit through the four-hour ceremony.

he can still go to the after party, win award. He just doesn't have to, he was like, you know what a real punishment would be? Next year, he has to host the Oscars. I mean, it's so true, though. Like, if he can just win the award for the Oscars sitting on his couch, is maybe the best case scenario because there was no excuse, because if you are nominated for an Oscar, you're kind of expected to be there.

It's the big night. If you're nominated for an Oscar, but you literally are not allowed to go, then it's the best, like you said, the best case scenario. He could get nominated for something and just like throw himself an epic party to honor him. Yeah. And like, there's no, because guess what? He can still, like, he can still win. I don't know.

It's just, it's really funny. It's a look into how seriously. something like the academy like takes themselves that this is like oh we know he can't come to the to the show for the next 10 years i would be shocked if he won like even if he gave a great performance i would be shocked if they actually like gave him an oscar in the next 10 years yeah i doubt that would happen i i've never seen picturing will smith at home doing a stream i'm streaming the Oscars tonight on YouTube. Look,

everyone was pretty quick to give him to giving him a standing O after his speech, so maybe he does win an Oscar in last years. At the end of the day, are people going to stop being friends with Will Smith because he slapped Chris Rock in the face? Probably not, because these people are spymeless.

But that's just really... I know. There's all these rumors that, like, he is going to have a hard time working and places are dropping him and all these things and I just I don't know how much actual truth there is to that and then I also saw um like very smart of Chris Rock I think he said that he isn't going to talk about the whole situation unless he's getting paid the big bucks like I think like you get some kind of special Oprah Oprah interview like yeah like yeah he said he should have one he said I'm not talking about

that until I get paid. Life is good. He said, I'm okay. I have a whole show and I'm not talking about that until I get paid. Life is good. I got my hearing back. So I think it was just like, he's going to go through this whole tour, right? That is sold out that he just is doing anyway. And then Netflix could come through and be like, hey, we're going to pay you fucking $10 million to do a one-off special where you talk about it. And he'll be like, yeah, done. What does I got my hearing back mean, though? Like he got slapped so hard that he couldn't hear. Oh, is that a joke?

I don't know. I think a joke. I think a joke. Okay. I couldn't tell. Yeah. Yeah. I think a joke.

So it seems like he won't be fully diving into that unless he sees some dollar signs, which. Fair enough. Fair enough. Man got slapped across the face in front of the entire world. by Will Smith. Imagine if they're like, if they just run into each other.

I wonder how he feels about this punishment. Like if he's like, what? I'm telling you, I need the group chat between David Spade, Adam Sandler, Chris Rock and Kevin James. Yeah.

Do you think that their group chat is named grownups? That would be pretty funny. The big four. I can't have, like, they must have sent that headline just being like, wow,

10 years. And they're like this. He's fucking guy. He's fucking guy. He's lucky. For those guys, they're probably like, he's lucky. He doesn't have to sit through the whole ceremony. Because at this point, like, they're so famous.

They don't give a shit about sitting at the Oscars. No, they don't have to sit at the Oscars. Yeah. Like, the people who are just getting nominated for the first time are like, oh my God, I'm so excited to go to the Oscars. Yeah. What a punishment. Billy Irish is like pumped to go to the Oscars.

Yeah. He crushed it. The Academy. Way to go. You showed him. All right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back for another game of Beat, Ria and Fran. This is Game 34, and we are joined by the lovely Ellie and Hannah. They both go to Wake Forest.

They became friends. They said because of our show, you know, they saw each other in the comments. They realized we both go to the same school. Boom. They hit it off. And now they are here to play a great game of trivia with us. Thank you guys for joining the show. Thank you for having us. We're so excited.

I will say, Ellie DM'd me not too long ago, said she was going to get on trivia. And she did it with no influence for me at all. Because I don't people say it to me, but I like let Noah always pick. Like we never say to Noah like, oh, put these people on or whatnot. Just so that it's always. Noah's pick. And it just so happened that it worked. Yeah, we, every time we are out and we see each other, we're like, we got a DM

friend. And we send her like a pretty under the influence photo. Actually, I was looking back at the email because what I do is like, I'll see emails and I'll just star ones that I'm like, oh, these would be good. And then just go back through all my starred things. And I was going back last night. I was like, why did I star this one? Because they said they talked to you and I was like, that wouldn't really.

change my mind and then at the bottom one of you has a peanut allergy Wow Okay That makes more sense You know how many people are going to like Now email you saying they have any

If you have a peanut allergy You have to actually come with proof now She said she had a bad reaction Like the week before or something So Oh okay All right She's got her EpiPenz

Damn you got the old school EpiPenz Love it You got those vintage Debbie Pence. Okay, guys, let's get into the game. Here are the rules, 15 questions. Whoever has the most points at the end is the winner. We will go back and forth.

If you get a question wrong, the other team can steal the point. To determine who goes first, Noah's going to give us a movie. We have to guess a score on Rotten Tomatoes. We'll alternate picks. And whoever is the closest, we'll start the game. So, Noah, what is today's movie?

Today's movie is the Great Gatsby. Ooh. The Leo version? I don't even, is there another movie version? There's an original, Great Gatsby. Like an old one. Oh, I thought it was just a book, but. I think, I mean, obviously there's a book, but I think there might, I think there's an original.

But the Leo one. The Leo one. Okay. Ellie, Hannah, you guys throw out a guess to start us off. Yeah. Okay, you can first. Okay. I'm going to go 78.

I'm going to go 54. I also felt like many. I think I'm going to go 42, sneaky love. I'm going to go 65 Ria and it's 48 so you guys are tied with like six apart

Oh shit Alright pick another movie Or do we Okay pick another movie I think pick another movie Yeah Wow First movie off the top of your head

Yeah Just something that shows up The Simpsons movie That's the first thing I popped on my head Okay The Simpsons movie How is that the first thing that popped in your head? That's the first thing I popped to my head

The Simpsons movie I don't know I haven't watched it in 10 years The Simpsons movie. Okay, all right, let's do this again. The Simpsons movie. All right, now who goes first? Yeah.

Okay, I'm going to go... I'll go 63. 89. I was going to say like 20. Let's go 20. 38. 87. Wow!

Oh, shit. Amazing. The Simpsons movie. That's awesome. All right. It's also hilarious, considering we just did that. after doing like a Leonardo DiCaprio movie that had a, that had a what of 48?

Yeah, and the Simpsons movie I could see the numbers today. Yeah. Like it was like I had a number, it didn't even have to think about it, numbers just popped into my head. All right, well. So I'm feeling confident.

I think today's questions are good too, by the way. Let's go. All right, fuck you. Sorry, I'm pumped up today. I'm in a great mood this morning. I really am. It's a fantastic fucking day. Okay.

All right. All right, let's do it. Okay, question number one to rean, Fran. Shout out Shannon from Washington, D.C. Which of the following artists is the only one to win a Grammy? A. Katie Perry, B. Sierra. C. Post Malone. D. Nikki Minaj. Why did he look at you like that after Sierra?

Because I didn't know if I pronounced it right. I was like, is that how you say it? Okay, so. Like Sierra married to Russell Wilson, Sierra? Katie Perry, Sierra, Nikki Minaj, Post Malone. The only one to win a Grammy. Only one of them won a Grammy. Who is it?

Post Malone. Post Malone, right? Post Malone. Yeah. We're going to go post Malone, final answer. Incorrect. Oh, my God. Post Malone hasn't won a Grammy.

I thought for sure I thought it would be like GoFlex or something. I thought it was going to be. I thought post Malone, but it was Katie Perry, what? Sierra or Nikki Minaj. 15 seconds. I feel like Sierra is a wild part. So maybe like that. So maybe her?

I don't know. You pick. Just do one. Okay, we'll go Sierra. Correct. Sierra fine. What song? I don't know actually what song.

I can look it up if you want. No, move on to the next question. Okay. Have those answers readily available next time. Yeah. All right. All right. Planes have follow-ups.

I usually do. Okay. Question number two to Ellie and Hannah. Shout out Ruby and Elizabeth from Georgia. What are Drake and Josh's last name in the show? I don't. Um, my brother's going to kill me. He's a huge Drake and Josh fan.

I know nothing. All I can think of is their real names. I know. I was thinking like Josh Peck, but. Um, should we just guess something like generic? Not Smith. It's like, I don't know. 10 seconds.

Something like that. I don't know. You got it. You got it. Robinson. Final answer. We don't know. Thank you.

Is it just Drake Bell and John? Josh Peck? No. You're going to be so pissed. No, it's not. He said, he just said you're going to be so pissed. What does that mean? You're just going to be like, oh, my God.

So maybe it is. Nichols. Nichols. Josh Nichols. And Drake. Bell. Five seconds. Time is up.

Yeah. All right, time is up. Josh Nichols and Drake Parker. I would have never got Parker. I would have never would have remembered Parker. All right. Nichols was said. way more than Parker.

One nickels? Has that a lot, yes. All right. Still 1-0. Mr. Nichols. Ellie and Hannah. This question is to Ria and Fran.

Shout out Ashley from Maryland. Fucking Focus. In the movie, How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, what is the slogan Matthew McConaughey's character makes up for the jewelry company? Frost yourselves.

Sure. Good. Good stuff. All right. When I said Focus, Rio was really Focus frant, yeah. Tied up at one. Tad up at one.

Question number four to Ellie and Hannah. Shout out to Sydney from Minneapolis. Name these celebrities from youngest to oldest. Bradley Cooper, Ashton Coucher, Dwayne the Rock Johnson, James Franco. You said from youngest to oldest?

From youngest to oldest. James Franco, not Dave Franco. Yeah. James. I feel like, I feel like, um, the rock is old, I think. Yeah. He's got a daughter. Yeah.

I feel like Ashton Kitcher is youngish. Yeah. Okay. That sounds right. Okay. So maybe we go. James Franco, I think is young. Okay.

So maybe we go James Franco, Ashton Kutcher. Was it the third? Bradley Cooper? Bradley Cooper. No, I think The Rock then Bradley Cooper. Okay. Time is up. Okay.

So what was it? It's James Franco, Ashton Kutcher, the rock, and then Bradley Cooper. incorrect. I think it's Ashton Coucher. You think he's the youngest? James Franco. I kind of feel like Ashton

Sneaky is older than we think. You think he's older than James Franco? I think James Franco just looks older. He's not aging as well as Ashton Coucher. No, I think Ashton Coucher looks older than James Franco. What? Like I think... Okay.

All right, James Franco. Franko, Ashton Coucher, I think Bradley Cooper and then the Rock. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. Bradley Cooper is 40, or Ashden Coucher is 44. James Franco is 43.

Yeah. The Rock's 49. Bradley Cooper is 47. Yep. That was a confusing way to read those instead of reading them in order. All right. All right. Question number five.

This is to Rhian Fran, who are. up 2-1. Shout out Brittany from Champaign, Illinois. In the song, Six Minutes by the Jonas Brothers, what is the lyric for the fourth minute? No. No. I don't even know the song.

These are the ones, like, these are the lyrics the old, of the really old songs, that I don't. Like, I fake. You know how bad I am with lyrics? Like, I fake sing these lyrics because I don't. Five seconds.

No, all of them. One minute and it's on a two minutes and it's all three minutes and it's all four minutes. No, I've got a lot. I got six minutes with you. Yo. Six minutes. Yo.

Can you keep singing it for us? I don't. The one to five, I got nothing. All right. No, no answer for either. No, we have no answer. All right. The correct answer is four minutes and she's everything I see.

I yeah one minute and it's stupid all right still 2-1 re and fran this is question number six to ellie and hannah shout out shannon from washington dc again rank these four taylor swift music videos in order from most to least views on youtube shake it off cardigan love story blank space from from least to most to least from from most to least To least. Shake it off. Yeah. Shake it off. What was it? Cardigan, Love Story, and... Blank, what was the last one? Oh, Blank Space. And Blank Space. I think it's Shake it off Blank Space. Love Story, Cardigan. Love story is huge. So should we switch? Switch that in blank space, maybe? Yeah. That makes, yeah. Okay. I was obsessed with Blank Space. Yeah. But, okay. Let's go. So we'll go, shake it off. Love Story, blank space. Cardigan. Final answer.

I kind of think blank space might be one. I'm going to go, do you have an input in this? Yeah. No. Where at all your energy, go? I'm going to, these questions are not up for Raleigh. I'm going to go

blank space, shake it off, love story, cardigan. They originally had it. Shake it off 3.1 billion blank space 2.9. Dang it. Love story. Yeah.

617 million. Cardigan 99 million. Damn. It's close. All right. Still 2.1. And this is two. We had it.

Ria and Fran. It's a Harry Potter question. Oh, my God. It's like I don't exist. You've seen all the Harry Potter's, okay? I guess, but. You know it now. No.

You want everything to be couples of treat, sweet life. No, I know. But, you know. but, you know, this is all like Franz fandoms. Just randomly, you know? All right, go. Shout out Carolina from Denver. Her mood has drastically changed in four minutes.

That's all right. I need water. All right. Name the three unforgivable curses in Harry Potter. There is the killing curse, the Cruciatus curse, and, um... Five seconds. God, why am I doing this? The time is up.

All right. To Ellie and Hannah. All right, we got Avata Codabra, Crucio, and Imperial. Final answer? Yes. That's our final answer. Correct. When it's not my day, it's not my day.

And it's not my day. Two, two. Tide up a two. This one's not to you, but you would like this one. Maybe it'll come to you. Well, no, you're killing us. Okay, just to Ellie and Hannah. It's tied up at two. Shout out Madison from Fargo, North Dakota.

What are the two bars that were referenced in the infamous note by Sammy, or to Sammy and Jersey Shore? Jersey girl, Ellie. I'm from New Jersey. Never seen an episode of Jersey Shore in my life. So I know. I'm sorry. I'm from Basking Ridge, so we're not super close to the shore, but.

Yeah, I have no idea. That was my way of filling time. Pass. Okay, Pat, to re-in. Bed and karma? I don't. I don't know. Those are the two safe guesses.

But they're not in the same place. I'm going to say bed and karma. Final answer. Yes. Shit. Bed and clutch. This is just. God, you guys.

Terrible. You can't complain now. No, I'm not complaining. We're just doing terribly. That's all. It's okay. fine. It's all right. I mean, you guys are tied up, so it's, you know. It's all right.

All right. Question number nine, and this is to Rianne Fran. Shout out Genevieve from Salem, Massachusetts. The character names Olaf and Sven. How do you say that? Sven. Oh, wow. Okay. From Frozen are named after characters from what movie? A, Lord of the Rings, B, Transformers, C, Titanic, D, Forrest Gump. I'm going to say Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings.

Yeah, sure. Lord of the Rings. Shocking. Can you bring the question again? The character named Sven and Olaf from Frozen are named after characters from what movie? I was going to say Lord of the Rings. Titanic? Isn't there a Titanic?

Like his friend? I'm pretty sure. Oh, okay. Let's go with that. All right. We're going to go with Titanic. Correct. There is an Olaf in Titanic.

Is it? I just remember that. I'm trying to think who is. I can't remember who Olaf is in Titanic. I just know. Yeah, I can't either. When I think of Olaf and Sven, I think Frozen, but. All right.

Question number 10. It's 3-2, Ellie and Hannah. And now, question number 10, I'm going to play a movie clip, and you tell me what movie it's from. I, you haven't finished your nuggets yet, sweetie. Okay, there's a lot of children starving in America, right? I mean, take a look at her. She's American. Huh?

Really skinny. You want to look like that? No. Then eat your nuggets. I don't even have a guess. I didn't even recognize the voice. Yeah, me neither. Eat your nuggets?

Yeah. Do you want to just guess what's like a funny comedy? I have a no. I like blanking. Yeah. Maybe grown-ups two, final answer. Incorrect. And I like that you're like listening of a funny comedy and grown-ups too.

I have no idea. Nearly do I. Can you play it one more time? I, you haven't finished your nuggets yet, sweetie. Okay, there's a lot of children starving in America, right? I mean, take a look at her. She's American, huh? Really skinny.

You want to look like that? No. Then eat your nuggets! I can't even recognize the voice. Yeah. Like, it sounds familiar, but... Five seconds. I got nothing.

Daddy's home. Uh, no. Crazy rich Asians. Oh Wait now Oh now I know Yeah Yeah

Yeah no I would have never got that though Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah All right Still 3-2

Ellie and Hannah This is question number 11 To Rehan Shout out Haley From Rockaway New Jersey In the movie

White Chicks What was the name of the song That the girls Dance Battle to My My brain I just can't remember a single thing today.

Nothing. Oh, I got it. Like, all I can think of is freaking, what's his face? Terry Cruz singing in the car. And I can't think of. 10 seconds. I got, I got, no, I don't have it. I quit.

Allie and Hannah. It's like, she, to rock around, two rock around this time. What is the song name? I can sing it for you, but I don't know the title. Is it like rock around? That's tricky. That's it.

Rock around or something. Incorrect. It's crazy in love by Beyonce. Oh, totally off. Damn. All right. Still 3-2.

And this question is to Alien Hannah. Shout out Taylor from North Carolina. Name Tasha's final four on her season of the bachelor. Bachelorette. This is the word. You knew we were When Noah started I really like all these questions

We were fucked Oh Ivan Ben Zach Ivan were fantasy streets Who's the fourth though? I finished I finished recently I watched I like can picture the fantasy sweets in my head

But I don't know the fourth Ben stack Hometown Just throw out of time Someone who's That's all That's all Just say it

Well Ben Ben Zach Ivan and All right Time is up, time's up. Alright, to re-infran. Ben, Zach, Ivan, and Blake. Blake.

Moines? She, like, cried hysterically when Blake. Did he make it that far? Yeah, I mean, I got no other answers. Ben, Zach, Ivan, and Blake. Ben, Zach, Ivan, Brendan. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

Oh, my God. I don't want a single person telling me. and Ria how bad we did at this game. Because we know. That's all. One fact, yeah, we saw running on a flight. Me specifically.

Me specifically, I got girls to DM me and they're like, I can't believe you got that Jones Brothers question wrong. You're a fake fan. All right. Sorry. Nobody dams me that.

It's toxic. Happens to me all the time. Well, you still... You gotta stay sharp. Take out the book, start studying. I start fucking memorizing every lyric. I am so bad with lyrics. You guys can still win.

I'm pretty good. with lyrics, but you don't ask any other lyrics besides Jonas Brother lyrics. That's true. I'm very good with lyrics. I've asked Harry before. Throw in some rappers every once in a while, some rap lyrics. How about it? Huh? Like, everything is, you know, I don't like just a couple things. You just, you know, anyways, next question. I'm going to make an edit where it's just you in the beginning and then just you right now. No, but it's like, you're like, but you, you never ask like, you know what kind of music I like, but there's never questions about that.

I don't write most of the questions. You know what I'm just saying. I don't write most of it. Hey, he doesn't write the questions. Yeah, people out there. Send in some rock questions. Yeah, whatever. Okay.

Question number 13. Ellie and Hannah up three, two. Shout out Priyne from Baltimore. This is to, um, Rianne, Fran. Another Harry Potter question. Oh, mother. I'm gonna leave. But the fact that you're like, upset Fran, you begged for Harry Potter questions.

I know, but when I started to get them wrong, I just get them wrong. I think you'll get this one. All right. Well, now I'm definitely going to get it wrong. Hey, hey, have a better attitude about it. You never know. Maybe I'll get it.

You guys are acting like you're down by 10 points. Maybe Rio will get it. Yeah, maybe I'll get it. I mean, you saw it. All right. I mean, yeah, I saw it one time straight through. I bet would you get it, Noah? No.

Yeah, exactly. All right. Who do Harry, Hermione, and Ron go to the Yule ball with? Each person individually? Yes. Hermione goes with crumb. No? Yes. Full name?

Victor. Victor. Harry goes with... I got to give you their both names. The Patel twins. I mean, yeah, because, yeah, they're different people. Pavardi. And...

Time's up. You're going to score us over one twin name. Yep. It's a question. I mean... All right, time's up. I can't remember the other twins name. Well, crumb.

So Vic, Crum with Hermione. And then Parvati and... It's like, it's something with a Pha. Padma or... Oh, Padma or something. I like that. That sounds good. Okay.

So... Like, Hugo, you know, who goes to know. Who goes to Harry and... I think Ron and Parvardi and then Harry and... I think her name's like... Padma. Yeah. Padma.

All right, so... Time is a final, final answer. Let's hear it. So Hermione with Crum, Parvati with Ron, and then Padma with Harry. You guys had the names right, but not the people, correct? It's Harry with Parvardi, Ron with Padma, Hermione, Victor Crum. Damn. Almost had it. All right. Two more questions, and it's still three to, two, Ellie and Hannah.

This question is... I don't want to lose this game. Hey. We don't deserve to win this game. Take her out of here. We do not deserve to win this game. Why? Because we got the answers right.

Every question wrong. But they also got them wrong, so they deserve to win? No offense, but if we beat you, if we beat you. All right. Question number 14 to Ellie and Hannah, who are up three to, shout out Shannon from Washington, D.C. for the third time. Which TV character said the famous quote, three words, eight letters, say it, and I'm yours? Blair Wolf's gossip girl answer.

Correct. And that secures the W. Yeah, I knew that one and so did Ria, so. All right, we'll do the last one for fun. Question number 15. Shout out Carly from Wheatridge, Colorado. Which of the following celebrities is not turning 30 this year? A. Taylor Lautner, B, Sam Smith, C. Carra Delavine, D. Nile Horan. Sam Smith.

Final answer? Yeah. Well, shocking. I would have said, I would have said... You guys are the biggest sore losers I've ever met. I don't think I'm not bad of a sore loser. What was the first one?

I've been pretty acceptable. They get a chance. I know, but what was the first option? Taylor Lawtoner. That's how I would have picked. Okay, to Ellie and Hannah. I know Nile's 29, I think, right now.

Yeah. So I think he is turning 30 this year. Taylor Lawner. Who were the other ones? Sam Smith and Caradeleveine. Camseller Delevin. I think she's... 10 seconds.

We'll go Taylor Lawton. Taylor Lautner, final answer. Incorrect. It's Nile Horn. He's 28. Oh, we love Nile. Shit. Young Buck. There you go. All right, 4-2. Ellie and Hannah win. Terrible. You know what? I like losing some times. This is back-to-back elves.

Yeah, but I think it's all right because the next time we win, we'll have. it'll feel even better. You know? How many L's in a row before you start? I think you. So you lose your status as like Bobby. How many times would Bobby Flay lose in a row where you're like, is he even good?

Four times, I would say. I would say if we lost four times in a row, it's like, yeah. Somebody, the fourth game would probably just feel over. The fourth winner has to be taken over by the people. The podcast has been taken over by the way. Yeah. Putting your jobs on the life.

Yeah, exactly. Not actually, please. I think we'll get the next one. Yeah. I just hate getting those. Great game though, guys. I hate getting those questions wrong. Yeah, thank you guys. Yeah, that was awesome. Well done, ladies.

Good job, Ellie. I am a sore loser, and I'm not a sore loser. I'm not a sore loser as much as I get pissed at myself for getting the questions wrong. Yeah. You strive for greatness. Yeah, and I feel like a big old idiot when I get that. I'm not too down because I, those questions, I don't think I would have gotten any of them. They weren't. They were my questions. I never got any of them right. Jersey Shore. Yeah, yeah, but I had half a.

Half of. Drake and Josh, I had half. Yeah. You know, I tried to do my part, but you can't win a lot. Oh, well. Okay, well, if you guys could send me your address and size, so we could send you some merch. Oh, awesome. Thank you guys.

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Cheers. Thank you guys. The world's most refreshing podcast. Yes. All right, everyone, we are here with a very special guest. We are joined by Josh Peck. He's here to talk about his new book. Happy people are annoying.

We have it right in front of us. I love doing this when people come on and they have a new book out and then we act like we're like late night TV show host. So thanks for joining the show. Well done. I wish you guys were true late night TV show host because I would watch it because late night needs your guys as help. Thank you. I think so too. It's like the perfect from under the desk, you know, when they go under the desk and they say, so tell us about the book. And also they're like their knee slapping. They haven't said anything yet. So we could pull that off. Yeah, you just have to be able to laugh at things that are not funny. So it'll be good practice with me because I always need the help.

Josh, how are you doing? How has been the feedback? of the book being released and what's going on? It's been great. I started writing this thing like over a year ago and I was alone with my thoughts and just like putting it down on paper. And then you should give it over to the world. And the feedback's been lovely, but it's also been like, wow, you're very honest. And I'm like, I guess so.

I live with myself, right? So I'm sort of used to it. But I'd never really been this honest or public about my life, challenges and whatnot. So it's a little scary, but I think inevitably it's probably a good thing. Right. I think it's a great thing. And obviously, we've seen you do a ton of interviews over the past few weeks. And we're like, how do we ask him something new that hasn't been asked before? Because people are, you know, they're asking you the same questions. And we actually had Jason Tartick. You went on his podcast recently. He was in here yesterday. And he was just talking about you. And he said the same exact thing. He was like, he is so honest. So we're really excited to just talk about everything that. in this book with you?

No, listen, I'm excited to be here and I, you know, I think that for me, I grew up, like I think I was like the last generation before social media. Right. And so there was still like this weird mystery to public people and they would come and promote a movie and then they would like disappear for 18 months. But now I feel like everything is completely out there and public. And so this is my first foray into losing all my privacy. Yeah.

That is, it is true and I, and you're right about that. Like, as soon as I opened the book and started reading, I was like, wait a second, I thought I knew this guy and I don't know this guy at all. Like I, because you, we grew up watching Drake and Josh. We loved it and all that and all of those shows. So it is crazy. Like the difference, the changes in the internet where now if there's young kids on a show, you can Google them and find out everything about their family. what their parents do, did, like, everything. And I felt like then it just wasn't as talked about.

So opening up just kind of like about your family dynamic and everything that happened was immediately surprising to me. Yeah. And I want to ask, obviously, like she said, we grew up watching you. And I think you've talked about this recently, just being like you were like the happy go lucky kid. When you saw your face, it was like you were always cheery and happy.

And, you know, reading this book, you realize that that wasn't always the case. you turned to many other things because you weren't like as happy as you came across. Did you at the time and because social media wasn't around, I don't think you knew it was going to exist the way it did. But did you wish that people knew this side of you before now or like as you were going through it? Well, it's a great question. I mean, to your point, yeah, like that's why I made probably the most punchable book cover

in the history of book covers. And it's yellow background because my publisher says that really, pops on Amazon. But I, you know, because I feel like that cover is, yeah, we know that guy. Like, that's like the corny, funny dude that we grew up with. And then as soon as you open the book, it's like this bait and switch. I mean, being like, you're still going to laugh, but I'm probably going to hit you with some honesty too.

But to your point, like, you know, I don't know. I think what the book was sort of an effort in me being like, this is kind of like at the times where I was 20 and you watched me being locked in a tree house and you thought everything was all good or you just assume that like if you're on a show like that sort of going forward you have the golden sort of key to the world in Hollywood and life like what I wanted to be was sort of like a correction or a footnote or just an extra layer and being like yeah it was great and I was incredibly lucky and that can be true and at the same time another truth can exist which was I was incredibly insecure because I was, you know, going through my awkward teenage years

in front of millions of people and my awkward teenage years are in reruns or, you know, just like navigating this sort of really specific world that not everyone, you know, certainly has to go through those same sort of weird waters. Yeah. The financial aspect of the book was very interesting to me too because like I said watching you're seeing I'm watching this guy on TV every day this guy's got to be rich yeah it's got to be it's on Hulu he's got to be making all this money from these TV shows and at the time I guess that just wasn't as necessarily as prevalent as it is now and you said something in the book as well about um kids TV not not paying residuals and yeah that is something I had no idea

idea. It's pretty wild. Someone read the book and she tweeted at me. She's like, you were making a hundred grand a year. Like, I work with kids and I make half that. So what are you complaining about? And I'm like, listen, in no way am I getting into an argument with you about how you deserve way more money than I do. You're right. I'm just bringing this up because comparatively, it's a little, there's some big differences. And also, I, again, it was, it was in an effort to like slightly correct public perception. Because like my buddy Ryan Holiday, who's like a famous writer, he kind of acted as my like advisor on the book.

And because I knew I didn't want a ghost writer, but I knew I needed someone I could bother. Right. And be like, listen, does this suck? Please God help me. And so when we got to this part, he said, you have to say how much you made. And I'm like, that's gross.

Like who talks about money like that? He's like, no, because the misconception is you do this show and you're, set. And the reality was you were making like a nice middle class income for five years that you and your mom lived on for a lot of it because, you know, we moved out to California from New York, like, had to start a whole new life. So it's not crazy to think that like if you were making a hundred grand a year after five years, you know, you've got a year maybe of runway, you know, 18 months of savings. And then you got to get back to work. Yeah. Absolutely. It's like anybody who gets that paid amount now they can't just say oh i made it that i got to quit now and i'm good for the rest of my life

like you you have to keep working and uh yeah so i i think that you know it was great of you to share something like that because i do think you're right i do think people see somebody on a tv show or kids like us being like i want to be on all the time exactly you're like oh my god everybody knows this yeah it's like oh my god he's going to be making so much money they play this show on TV every day. Right. So it's like disaster porn for me now because I love when people like telling people, I'm like, ah, you know, there's no residuals actually.

And like just to watch their face drop, I'm like, it's almost worth it. Yeah. And you're like, and like you mentioned, you're like, I'm watching. It was shocking to me. I'm watching my awkward years playback and I actually am not even paid for it. Like if you were getting paid for it, maybe it would be worth it. But you also have a chapter in this book, quote unquote, too fat for. commercials. That's me saying it.

It's you saying it. And you talk, you know, your mom was talking to your agents or whoever and was just like, why isn't he going out as much as the other kids? They're going to commercial auditions, you know, once twice a week. You're going out maybe once or twice a month and, you know, you were told

you had to lose weight and this and that. What, when did it change exactly? And you may have told the story before, but I'm interested in where the switch happened and Nicolode and picked you up.

Like how did it go from not getting many auditions to now you're on like one of the biggest network for kids? I, you know, I guess it, looking back in hindsight, it was fairly quick, right? Because I'm like nine, 10 years old. I'm doing stand-up comedy in New York, which is the craziest shit ever because I should have been in Little League, but I'm literally like honest. You were getting up on stage in New York when you were that young? Yeah, Caroline's.

That's awesome. New York. Yeah, it was just my thing. I had like a tight five minutes and they would sneak me in through the back door so they wouldn't lose their liquor license. And then I went to Performing Arts High School in New York and it was like the first time that I wasn't just like the freak, like the oddity at, you know, going to PS40 and kind of like having a leave for auditions. I was surrounded by, I mean, some of the kids who went to my school were like Alicia Keys

and Claire Daines and Jesse Eisenberg. So all these like kids who were really making. a living doing this thing. So suddenly it seemed possible. I'm like, oh, this isn't just like a hobby as my Jewish grandparents tell me and then I need to go to law school. Like this can actually sustain. So I started auditioning at Nickelodeon like all the time because they've got commercials and like little guest stars on TV shows. And I was like, listen, I'm chubby, funny, and ambitious. You need me. Trust me. And basically I booked a movie for them called Snowdeck. And it was my first film, I was 12 years old, and one day I'm like talking shit to some guy in like this

gigantic jacket because it's February in Calgary, Canada. My mom sort of sidles up to me. She goes, do you know who that is? That's the president of Nick Lodi. Tell him you want to be on the Amanda show. Tell him you want to be on all that. Like, I know it's your dream, but he doesn't know. And I did. And nine months later, we got a call from him saying, I'm going to move you and your mom to California to star on the Amanda show. And six months later was Drake and Josh. That's awesome. And it really shows that sometimes six months. I didn't realize that. That's quick. It's just crazy that something like that as a kid, you feel more comfortable saying it to him, right? Whereas like now, like, I feel like people are like a little cautious.

Like, I can't just say that to that guy. And it's like, well, you can. As a kid, as a kid, you're like, I'll just say it to him. Who cares? But now you have like a little more conscious. But it works. out if you just kind of put yourself out there. Totally. I mean, I say in the book, like, I don't know what the lesson is here other than like shoot your shot. But yeah, when you have like the guts and the courage of a 12 year old who's never been rejected before, like, yeah. But then life happens and you're like, oh, God, I could never have like the guts to do that. So that is obviously at the time so exciting for you. What's going through your mom's mind at that time? That's a great question. You know,

She, I got to be honest, and I don't know if I've ever said this part of it, I was in like, I was having a 13 year old renaissance in my life during this time. I was freshly bar mitzvahed. Anything was possible. Like, I was, I loved performing arts high school. And when I got offered this show, I didn't immediately think, yeah, let's go. Because I knew, like, I knew that we were going to have to move to California. and like I was so kind of pleased with where my life was right in that moment. And I remember my mom saying like, I don't really want to go to California either. Like we don't know anyone there. And she's like, but this is big. Like we can always come home.

Yeah. But I think we got to do this. Like, because this doesn't come around a lot. And it was it was partly by her saying like, listen, you know, we're going to miss a couple like, you know, Shabbat dinners in Jersey. But like, you know, you're on a TV show, so let's give it a try. And if you hate it, we can always come back. Yeah, that's, I guess that is a good lesson to.

People are always nervous to take the leap. But if you have the ability to try it and say, well, you can always pack it up and go home. Right. And I mean, of course, there are circumstances where people don't end up love being on TV or whatever it is. But what kid, what 13-year-old, 12-year-old kid is going to go on the Amanda show or all that and be like, mom, I hate this. Like, I want to go home.

Like, that was every kid's dream. And then obviously, Drake and Josh started and that was a huge hit. We all loved it. And now I see, okay, because you know where I'm going with this. You're on BFFs recently, which is obviously a huge podcast here. And they talked a little bit about Drake. And then Drake and his wife did a podcast after that reacting to you on BFS. And I listened to that.

I was just like blown. I was like, what is, what am I listening to here? And I want to know your side of this of, of there, was there supposed to be another show called Josh and Drake? Like, is this all a real thing? No, you know, I, I never really, look, I never really had any desire to say anything, but I kind of talked about a relationship slightly in the book.

So I think that's what, what, where I just was like a little bit more liberal in sharing sort of my thoughts on things, But inevitably, you know, it is what it is. I think I talked with Portnoy enough about it. At this point, I don't have too much more to say about the whole thing, you know? Yeah. It's, it's, and I do think because you've had these big moments and everyone still sometimes you watch people on TV and you think that's like their life in real life.

And when the truth is you don't actually see that person that much. Yeah, that's like me and Fran. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. It's very different. Look, this show for me, like, I think for a long time, I, again, when I talk about my awkward teenage years, like, I wanted to let go of my origin story. And I just wanted to be the new version of me and whatever that was. You had described the show and I wrote it down. You had said it was kind of just a job.

Right. It was a great job. Yeah, yeah, a great job. That's what you said. Don't get me wrong. A great job. but you know you would just go home and like it said you said i'd go home to an apartment complex watch hockey with my friend who lived in my building and that was kind of it's yeah it wasn't you know there wasn't social media so it wasn't like you're the stranger thing this kids and right Friday at premieres and Monday you're a gigantic star we we kind of did this thing and I loved it but I also knew that there would definitely be a stigma and a preconception about who you know, kid actors are

because for every, you know, Zendaya, there's like a thousand burnout like stories that sort of perpetuate that narrative. So it can be an uphill battle a little. So I just was like, I knew that I had my work cut out for me when the show was over.

But over time, I've seen like people really marry themselves to the first sort of image that they fall in love with. And that was me on Drake and Josh. That's Steve Carell on the office. And like you can you can do a lot of dope stuff, but you don't want to fight that. You want to embrace that that you made people happy. Yeah.

Yeah. And also talking about social media now, it's also like there's so many more paid opportunities, I think now for people on TV shows that, you know, they don't, they may be getting a paid a certain amount on the TV show and may not be this crazy amount that people think it is. But then they get the ads and they get people following them. And you didn't necessarily have that at the show. the time. I feel like you know that better than either of us on how you totally monetized your social

media. I remember I started following you on Twitter like, I mean, maybe in like 2011 or whatever it was. And you were very active on there. And I think people were excited to see you on there because we got to just see like a different side of you. And you were just, I just remember following you on Twitter from the beginning being like, this, Josh is great on Twitter. Thank you. Listen, thank you for the early follow. I appreciate it. And I, Yeah, dude, I mean, my life for years, and I don't, you know, it's the life I signed up for it. And it's been incredibly wonderful. And yet there have been so many moments where you sit in like a waiting room with 15 other guys who look just like you.

And you're like, been drilling it all week in your head. And you're like, I'm going to book this role. And I'm going to buy a, you know, a luxury midsize sedan. Or like, I'm going to pay off my condo. and like and then you go in there or like you like see or I'd sit in the waiting room and like Miles Taylor would walk in and I'd be like all right I got to go I'd be like kill it miles you're going to crush it dude and so finally I was able to like create content and make money doing it circumventing the gatekeepers like I didn't have to go through that process so a lot of people

were like at first they were like what are you doing and then in success they were like did you know And I'm like, no, all I knew was that I was going where it was warm. Like I was going where it was nice for a moment. And I could like do what I do, but not ask permission. And that part for me was like, I just bought in. Yeah. I feel like YouTube has been big for you. I feel like you got into the YouTube world and obviously made connections through that.

Yeah. I mean, I kind of, you know, it started with Vine. God bless. RIP. RIP. Have you ever been in a in a room with people? that you could say like, what the heck were you guys doing, getting rid of Vine?

I feel like you may be, I don't know if you know people high up. It's heartbreaking. Like, I don't know. Now looking back, it's like, and seeing how successful TikTok is and how that absolutely skyrocketed for them to just like randomly have been like, you know what?

We're taken away behind. It was a gaff, man. It just didn't, it didn't seem like it was quite handled correctly from jump, unfortunately. but I mean, yeah, you're right. Like I'll literally open TikTok and get PTSD because I'm like, this is what mine could have been. Yeah. And you're looking at all the TikTok stars and you're like, be careful.

Get on the other platforms before this disappears. Totally. And that's why I was lucky because I was sort of like I went to Instagram and then eventually YouTube. And I just, I was like, I know that if I'm able to sort of adapt what I'm doing from a six second video to something more long format, I remember in the middle of sort of my social media career, I did this show with John Stamos called Grandfathered on Fox. And he's the greatest. But I remember during the audition, you know, we did like chemistry reads with him. And he was, we were kind of just chatting and he goes, my niece is really like you on that vine thing.

Like you think you can be funnier for more than six seconds? And I was like, I'll try, John. I think it's so interesting some of the connections and relationships you've made, just like John Stamos. It's like, how did these two guys end up together? I know. I mean, how did I figure out how to pass for his child? I wish I could like go back in time and see 13-year-old Josh and be like, dude, one day. Like, we're going to be able to pass for John Stamos's kid. So it's all going to work out. and also maybe like ease up on the trans fat. No.

Yeah. Yeah. It is very cool. And I think that like you said, you've opened up so much in this book about so many things. One of those was your battle with drugs and alcohol, which I feel like a lot of people were not aware of as well. And it's interesting because reading what you said about the moments you've had, the story could have gone so differently in the likes of, You know, we've seen the child stars. We've seen the Amanda Binds, the Lindsay Lohan's, like, where they, there's a, it's so public.

It's a dark turn. Everyone's talking about it. And it felt like you kind of had some of those dark moments, but thankfully it didn't publicly become a massive thing. You're right. No, I think I say in the book, like, there were so many close calls instead of like literally outing myself in this book for some reason. Right. Right. You're like, it could have been driving away from cops of Beverly Hills. Like, it could have been all these moments.

I, yeah, I don't, you know, I was sitting with a couple sober buddies of mine. And I was like, yeah, people seem to have really had a reaction to the fact that I've been, you know, in recovery for like 14 years. And they're like, well, yeah, because you've kept it hidden. Right. Like, you didn't have that TMZ headline. Like, it's just it. So people didn't know. Yeah. Now, I'm not asking you to. blow up like other people's spots on Nickelodeon. Did like the party, drugs, alcohol, was that starting around that same time, like,

hanging around like L.A., getting to California? Or when did that really become opened up to you? You know, I would, yeah, I think like certainly I was 17, 18, like, sewing my wild oats in this town and being a cliche and going to the clubs. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, sure there were like certainly other people in similar profession to mine who were like, you know, on their own journeys. But, you know, inevitably it wasn't anything like that special. Like, because again, I wasn't interested in the famous side of drugs and alcohol or the cool kid side of it. I was interested in the drugs and alcohol. And so for me, it quickly like separated itself. But it's not, you know, it's not random.

it didn't come out of nowhere. I obviously overdue things. And I had like a lot of data to support that. And then I lost 100 pounds and I was like the same head in this new body. And also just like 18 and supremely stupid and like I got some catching up to do. Like I've been like anytime I get invited to a party when I was chubby, I'd be like I'd love to, but I got to stay home and like alphabetize with my DVDs. Like I'm just like super.

I'm crazy busy. And so here I am 18. I'm like, oh, I want to live. And so when I started to partake in these things, I just was like, oh, this is so typical. Like, this is just what people my age do, not knowing that for someone like me, it was going to leave me down a bad path. Right. And to be fair, we all get opened up to that stuff at those ages.

Like, it's not just like child stars that all of a sudden the world opened up to drug and alcohol. Like 15, you get to high school, that world is just opened up for everybody. And unfortunately, some people have a different reaction to these type of things, which was in your case. It's so, it's like sad and also almost funny. And I'd say it in the book, like the first time I did it and it was like with this girl who like kind of liked me and I liked her or I just liked being liked. And I just remember thinking in that moment like, oh, like this is just so typical. Like I'm just so I feel so normal right now doing like this ridiculous, you know, act. And but that's all I wanted.

I just wanted to be like another kid who could be going up. I don't know, Sunni purchase. Right. You know, pick your favorite New York store. Oneonta, I don't know. Albany. Yeah. Oh, man.

So after all this, you know, you're going through kind of these movie roles, these acting gigs. And you talked about sort of having to like relearn a lot of things and kind of get back into the acting game, whether that's acting, you know, classes, things like that. What advice do you have now for actors who may have had that big child role that everyone remembers them for? But they're like, hey, we want to keep acting. Like, we want to keep doing these things. What advice you have to them who maybe want to step out? I think, you know, you just have to continue to put the work in. And especially for someone like me, I just knew that I had bad habits because they had worked. Yeah. You know, I had my my mom's voice in my head at 11 years old going, milk the joke, baby, the bigger the better.

And I had to unlearn that shit, but it worked beautifully for Drake and Josh and super sort of broad sitcoms, but maybe it wasn't as cute as a grown-up. And like, you know, I went like two or three years where I just wasn't working a lot. And, you know, certainly I would see comments on social media that would totally like, you know, bum me out or break my heart. But I knew that The thing that was different about me was I was an acting class during that time. And I would see each week, I'd be like, you know what? I might not be booking right now, but I'm getting better. Like, I feel better doing this thing.

I'm preparing myself that if the right opportunity comes, I'll be able to take advantage of it. And it inevitably did, but I never would have been ready had I not spent those three years, like really humbling myself to the process. And it's just because I love it. You know, TV was my escape. my best friend since I was eight years old. And it's the thing that I've always loved. And now I'm like, you know, I have this really small part in this Christopher Nolan movie. And I've been, you know, I was on set two days ago going like, I'm the guy from Drinking Josh. Like, what am I doing here?

But I'm like, but I'm soaking it up. I love it. I feel like you've had a couple of those moments and you've joked about it and you joke about it in the book where or even here, you know, with John Stamos or being cast as a brother to Chris Hemsworth was like. I mean, is that the most insane thing you've ever heard? Like what was that casting director? God bless her. She might have had an eye problem. That was, reading about that in the book really

did make me laugh. You're like, Chris Hemsworth has other brothers. Totally. And they don't look like me. I just was like, I remember him talking because his Liam, you know, or Luke Luke is the one that's not an actor. Liam is the actor.

Yeah. Yes. I remember like Chris. again, this is 2009, right? Like, Chris wasn't even Thor yet. Yeah. And first of all, he has like the nerve to also be nice. Yeah. Like, I remember we were doing, we would do scenes and he would, he was sort of older than us.

So he would come up to some of the young actors and he would call us Cubs. And we'd be like, that's so fucking cool. With the accent too, right? Like, yeah. We would rest in between scenes and he'd be like, oh, he tired Cubs. And you were like, like, that's all. like that's awesome. I was like, I'll be with every, you can be my bear daddy.

But he was so lovely. And then I just remember him being like, yeah, I have a brother. And we went to like some barbecue together after the movie was over. And then he introduced me to Liam. And I'm like, this sucks. I'm like, this sucks. Like, how did I not get born into this genetic like lottery? But, and they're both so lovely and talented and handsome.

Let's be honest. Just handsome. Yeah. Straight up handsome. That is very true. So, you know, to wrap it up here, obviously you have the title of the book here is Happy People Are Annoying. You seem like you're in a very happy place in your life right now.

So how annoying are you? I mean, just ask the internet. I'm annoying as fuck. Yeah, you know what? I'm really content. That's what I was looking for. It was like contentment. And to not like attach myself to those like brief moments of happiness or those.

brief challenging moments that like is inevitable. My buddy always says too much sun brings about a desert. And so I think that the journey of this book was realizing like the good times are coming. It sure as the bad times are coming and try to be like detached from it all and just be okay right in the middle. And and that's kind of where I've been. Yeah, we love it. It's beautiful. It is. And guys, for everyone listening, I highly recommend reading the book. I really, really enjoyed reading it and learning everything about you and the journey and the business. I felt like I just was learning a lot of things that that I did not know, whether that's about acting or social media, careers in social media.

I think it's really, really interesting. So make sure you pick up your copy of Happy People Are Annoying. And Josh, thank you so much for joining us. You guys are awesome. Thank you for having you. Thank you so much. It was so great meeting you. Yeah, it's such a pleasure.

Yeah. Great. Thanks, Josh. Bye, guys. Bye. See it. All right. That wraps up today's episode of Chicks at the Office.

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