Chicks in the Office - Xandra Pohl Interview + Bachelor Week 6 Recap

Episode Date: March 1, 2023

Subscribe to our YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE. Dog talk (00:00-10:25). Shawn Mendes & Sabrina Carpenter dating rumors (10:27-14:41). Aubrey Plaza SAG Awards dress criticism (14:42-17:18). Hailey Bieber & Selena Gomez drama (17:19-24:59). Bachelor week 6 recap with Luggage Guy Trent (25:57-57:14). Interview with Xandra Pohl – talking blowing up on TikTok, influencer trips, University of Miami + more! (58:26-1:35:16). MERCH! > http://bit.ly/citomerch. Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. This is state of emergency. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne, giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. And on Monday, I said that it was almost summer, but I lied to you because then it snowed.

Classic. It's funny that the first time, the first declaration, of it's almost summer led to the literal first time it snowed. Maybe that was my plan maybe all along. That's what I was hoping what would happen. Just wanted it was me talking about summer and the universe

going. No bitch. Snow is coming. Snow is coming. Which is what happened but then it turned yucky so it's not even good snow. It's not good snow. It's not fluffy white run out there, do a little twirl kind of snow. I saw my dogs playing in the snow. No snow angels. Dogs in the snow are always very cute. I'm so excited to see my dog.

Donnie's first to know. I missed it. Oh. Donnie's growing on you. He has grown on me. Also, yeah. If anyone wants to adopt them, still... There you go. Donnie's still up for adoption. And Donnie...

The Ives family isn't going to keep him? No. I mean, I'd be shocked. We've had so many... I mean, I'm just saying... We've had better ones. No offense, Tom. You've had Donnie for... But that's the one that ends up saying.

But it's just... For me, it's the time. It's like when you have one for... You know, now going on. It feels like months. I think it's probably around a month. But it's like a movie, right? It's like Donnie, the outcasts, you know.

No one wants him. Nobody wants him. It doesn't look just as to the other. It becomes the most loved. Yeah, he's so cute. Also, I just feel like then he gets attached to like Marie. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, the more time you spend with a dog is part of the family, like it's going to suck more when they're gone.

It sucks. So if Johnny stays in the house. He had his first note with the family. Exactly. You're not. You're going to send him away. I bet Norman, when it snows, I bet Norman's like under the snow. He's so short.

Yeah, well, he's in Florida now, but yeah, he loves the snow when he's here. I cannot wait. I'm going to see him on Sunday because I'm going to Florida to see my parents, but most importantly to see Norman. More importantly. More to see him. I don't only go home for my dog. Like I talk to them all the time. Like I can't speak to Norman as much as I try through the phone.

And your mom does also try to get him to speak to you through the phone. where my mom really thinks she's going to get the dog to talk and he doesn't but he knows it's me he knows I'm on there and I can't wait to freaking snuggle him. Do you think that they do because I do the same Yeah, 100%. But I'm like they're probably like where they hear your voice and they're like where are they? They know. Some do some don't. Yeah. Like someone like hours do. Just trust. Yeah yeah. No I believe your I believe your dogs do. Yeah. It's like the dogs who watch TV only because like Lola I think Lola knows because like she will react. to flow has no fucking idea. Should we talk about the maniac that emailed

you saying Murray greater sign Norman? Oh. Because you sent that email to us and I was like, and I thought this was funny by you. I don't want to blow up his fuck because she was on my side. We won't say the name, but I'll say this. I said, what kind of animal pits one dog against another and you said Michael Vick, which I thought was a very funny response? A quick joke.

But she did say, she called him King Norman. Was this also? Yeah, but wasn't this just because she wanted to get your attention? Like, didn't she just make the subject line that because she wanted you to open the email? Well, she said, no it's in a positive way, mine and an innovative way. Well, but she's trying to win me over. Right, but it was, if she's trying to win you over, she should also be trying to win us over. Well, she said, hope the subject caught your attention. I live from her. I assume she wants to be on trivia. Right, but if she wants to be on trivia. She's not

even wants to be, no, she was just sending trivia questions. So thank you. Also, it's two people. Gabby and. But I mean, at the end of the day, like, two people choose Murray over Norman? Well, no, I don't know if they both agree, but... Now, I would say like, they're doing that to get Noah's attention. They know we're not reading Noah's emails. Yeah, but Noah sent it, and now we know that this girl thinks that. It's not like Noah

often sends us. And I bet she's not happy that we know that now. Noah very rarely sends us people's a All dogs are treated evil. I just thought it was a funny thing, yeah. Not in Noah's mind. Well, honestly, not in my mind either. Oh, well. Like, I don't think every... Yeah, like, I don't...

I don't see every dog go, oh my God, that dog's so cute. Sometimes I see dogs where I'm like, that one's not as cute as that one. Yeah, I agree with you. Some have shitty personalities. Like tiny dogs who just non-stop bark. There's this dog who lives next to me, the apartment next to me. I swear if we ever run into each other. You're square or not.

I'm shocked you haven't if he lives next door. I swear like, like, these people don't. No, there are nice dogs on my floor. Yeah. This one dog. Maybe I just don't know I don't know No, I'm with you

There's a person who lives Next door to me as well With a very annoying dog But I And I've never seen the dog When we live next door to each other I am not So quick to judge them though

Because I remember when I had Norman In an apartment building And I don't know how much he was barking When I was gone Right? When I was in home I'm like How much was he barking

I can't be that person And like what are they gonna do? There's something they can do The poor dog is lonely They're upset their home alone in an apartment. They want to be outside running free wild in the snow. I've banged on the wall though. You banged on the wall? Because at the beginning of it I was like, are they in there? Like, I was trying to sleep. You were making sure the dog was okay? No, I was just being

I'm trying to help you out. No, he's not, he did not take that bait. You knocked on the door to make sure the dog. No, I didn't bang on their door. I banged on my wall because I was just trying to sleep. Just if anyone wasn't there like, hey, can you shut your dog up? That was what I was doing. What time was it at? Oh, I don't know. It was probably in the morning. I don't know. I don't know.

Was it morning or night? I don't remember. It's happened multiple times. Which is making it sound like it was at actually a fairly reasonable time. There's no reasonable time for a dog to be barking that much. Yeah, but, like, you know, luck, you can't, Jesus. Sometimes, like, you don't want to be that guy. Make sure you're, like.

I wouldn't be that. Train your dog. Get your kids off my lawn. No, no, no. I would never say that. It's just like some dogs kind of suck. That's what I'm saying. And it's okay to say that because you love your dog.

Yeah. And you love dogs. You go to, you went to the dog show. I love dogs. I love dogs. Same, but I'm with you. Not all dogs are right.

Some dogs are like the tiny ones that just all they do is bark. It's like Noah gets very, like he makes a swift decision. It's like when people say like all babies are cute. No, they ain't. No, they're not. There's some ugly babies out there. There's some ugly. There's some mean dogs.

There's some, right. There's some vicious ones. Yeah, there's some dogs that are mean to Murray. And I'm like, fuck you. Yeah, fuck off. Get off my dog. Murray has a lot of social anxiety, though, so. Oh.

Poor Murray. But yeah. Norman doesn't have any social anxiety. Norman is a social butterfly. I can't have to give him somebody freaking kisses. I don't know. If we're just going to grab me up. I'm so excited to see him.

Anyway, I'll be excited. I lost myself in the moment there. It was like he was in front of us. It was very. Pure make out. Excited. Not much going on besides that. We have a great episode.

We have an interview with Zandra Pole. big TikTok sensation right now blown up on TikTok her first podcast ever yes her first podcast uh hopefully she'll remember us unlike Madeline Klein and Chase Stokes who seemed to forget us I'm just saying what do you mean honestly I really I respect that reference

I think that made me know I respect it although when I listened back when I was like editing I was like damn like for some reason I was like it kind of hit harder when I was listening back to it like hit harder like I went in yeah that's fine though because I would rather our listeners know the truth of the matter than us protect them and what saying, oh no, it's fine. But at the end of the day, everyone's like, get Chasing Maddie on the podcast. Get Chasing Maddie on the podcast.

Hey, guess what? We tried. They don't answer. So we can't get them. That's the truth. And I'm sure they're lovely people. And it's not anything malicious. Yeah.

I'm not saying they're bad people. I'm just saying facts or facts and they're ignoring us. made it very clear. It's not malicious at all. It's just now they have people. When you get to that level, now they have people that deal with all their scheduling and all their shit. And a lot of the times those people make decisions for them. And we've tried to go through those people and we tried to go directly to the source. And it hasn't worked both times.

And we are being ignored. And that is not to speak on their character specifically, but to the fact that, you know, big time. We can't get them on the podcast. And that's the gosh, darn truth. Big time. And it's just the way the world works. Yeah.

And everyone's like, so can you get the other ones? We got Austin North. We appreciate Austin North. We tried for everyone. And we tried for everybody. But Austin was the one who wanted to come on. And so we will forever appreciate Austin. That's why we're Toppers number one fans.

We're replacing that sign up there. So what Topper? No, I won't say it. Spoiler, just in case. I would die for Topper. We just completely turn and say everyone just would be like, no. Just become a massive fan of Topper. I'd be like, yeah. I always shit. I was going to say her too. I won't say it. We can't. We'll spoil the show.

I know. I was going to shit. I wanted to do the. But I wanted to say it too. Zandra came on. She was great. She's so funny. So sweet. And a great time. And we have a Bachelor Recap with Trent. And we have a couple of topics, but really quick ones. Really quick. We're going to be talking about Sean Mandas and Sabrina Carpenter fueling dating rumors. He's not dating's chiropractor, it seems. That was a fun saga. Yeah, a little bit. And Aubrey Plaza.

weird situation on stage with her co-star. People seem to have said she was annoyed, but I think once again the internet is reading into everything constantly fueling rumors and fights and whatever for just the sake of entertainment. And man

is it tiring. And Aubrey just kind of, I feel like has a deadpan face a lot of that. Which is just like how to people does not get, that's just her personality right now. But let's get into the topics. And also today, YouTube live stream.

Yes. Wednesday, 3.30. So if you're listening to this in the morning, go on YouTube at 3.30. Subscribe live stream. Okay, let's get into the top. Sean Mendez and Sabrina Carpenter have been fueling dating rumors. They were seen out together. I like this pairing. I think it's a cute pairing.

I think it makes sense. They're singers. Music industry. They found each other. Cute. I kind of feel like Sean Mendez could have like a little bit of a type, you know? What do you mean? just like other people in the music industry

other singers other singers oh maybe he just feels like he relates to them I know I know it's so crazy is these pictures so they I think you know there were some posts on Dumas about them

Rinna Carpenter and Camilla Cabo don't look anything alike No no they don't but like as far as you know Tiny pops singers go they're you know Oh tiny Like no and not Not like I know what you're saying like small Like physically small.

Sabrina Carpenter is so tiny. She's like four foot nine. She's so. Really? She's like five feet tall. And like Sean Mendez is definitely, Sean Mendez has a good height to him. I think he's maybe six, six two maybe.

That's my guess. That's a big difference. Well, look at this, like look at the pictures. Like she's like this little teeny tiny person walking next to him. But yeah, they were photographed on. Saturday amid rumors that they've been seeing each other romantically. They were in L.A. running errands together. And it just seems like, you know, they were chatting it up, having a good time.

I'm going to have to agree with Ria that it's just like it feels like a cute couple. You know, like it's nothing crazy. Yeah, it wasn't like a, you see those two paired together. It's like, that's not that crazy. And I also feel like as far as, you know, Joshua Bassett. type fellas I feel like

Sean Mendes kind of fits in there also Joshua Bassett's going through something strange right now I really have not

paid attention religion stuff oh yeah I haven't seen any of it started going to a church that is known for having conversion

therapy and yeah he got baptized but people were looking into the church and they were like this church is a sketchy church. Not known for some great things. And, you know, he's talking a lot about his religion,

and it's raising some eyebrows, I think. I've definitely seen his Instagram posts that have obviously had some more religious undertones, like a lot of scripture and quotes. Which should be clear, it's not a problem at all. No, no, no. But if it's more the root of it is. The conversion therapy happening at the church

and him coming out, and now he's, going to this church, people are a little concerned because they're like, didn't he come out, right? And now he's, so I think people are just worried about him a little bit and making sure he's okay. That's fair. I think that's obviously certainly fair. So yeah, it just seems like these two are hanging out. They were spotted, Dumas spotting of them that they were clearly on a date together on Valentine's Day. Someone saw and now obviously they're back out in public. But yeah. He's been seen with his chiropractor a lot.

thought they were dating. Let me tell you, if I could have my chiropractor come around. His 51-year-old chiropractor. If I could have my chiropractor walking around with me, I would too,

because let me tell you, I got some bad problems, and if she could just crack my back into place at any point, I'd be happy. So maybe that's what Sean needs. You're not a big self-cracker? I can't.

I can't crack my back. I can't crack my back. Really? Can't crack my back? Can I other, oh, like, if I stood on your back, you would crack.

No. Really? It's strange. It's strange. Yeah? Only the chiropractor does he crack. Well, Dr. Jocelyn could probably get in there. Maybe Sean can lend her over if he's done hanging out with the 24-7.

Maybe if he spent some time with Sabrina instead of his chiropractor. They were spotted out together often, so it definitely raised some eyebrows. And Sabrina would... Sabrina would certainly be a better fit, in my opinion. Yeah, I think so. I think that that's probably a better pairing. And then on top of that, we did talk about the SAG Awards, but we didn't talk about a weird instance that happened, Aubrey Plaza and the White

Lotus cast went on stage to accept their award. Aubrey Plaza was wearing a dress that had major underboob, which was how the dress was designed. And then she looked like she said like, oh, Jesus Christ. Like, like, she, it looked like she

mouthed like, Jesus Christ. Like, unlike, right. When everyone's obviously like, yeah. Right. When, um, what's his face? I forget his name. Told her, he whispered something to her. Yeah, his name's John Grease.

Tanya's husband from White Lotus. Whispered to her like something about her dress or whatever. Watch out, like you may want to fix that. And people were like, that was creepy. She was annoyed by it. He had said that he texted her. Belling like, were you actually mad? And she was like, no, not at all. Maybe the Jesus Christ was like, you know when you get told like,

oh, your nipples about to pop out and you're like, oh, Jesus Christ. Like, to yourself, you're like, oh, fuck, this damn nipples popping out again, you know? You're just aggravated with herself that you've got to deal with these things. And so that could be it. And even when you have a design dress that has the underboob, like, you obviously are aware that there could be an incident. There could be an incident.

Maybe she was saying Jesus Christ herself. Yeah. It also was very crowded on stage. People were kind of moving around. People were like, oh, maybe she just got like, she's just in the back. She was kind of getting bumped around a little bit. I just said Jesus Christ. It was just like, Jesus Christ. I don't think he was... I throw out Jesus Christ all the time. Yeah, I don't think it was that strange for him to say something to her.

about, I feel like he wouldn't say it if they weren't close enough for him to say that, if that makes sense. Maybe he did overstep, but knowing. I also think he wouldn't be so willing to like share the story afterwards. Be like, oh, you know, I'm just trying to help out of friends. He would have just made something up and say he said something else because nobody could hear what he said. And she also said, she didn't have a problem with it at all. Yeah.

So once again, the internet is just like creating a problem. Yeah, it's a non-story. Yeah, it's a non-story that people make and to a story. Yeah. Because it was, you know, any little, any, even the smallest reaction on camera, on stage, live event, award show. People are, like, people are always like, why did they do that? There must be some deep root reason why they did that. It's really annoying and, like, nauseating. Yeah. How much people are dissecting every move. Disecting every single move from every person ever.

Yeah. Like it's getting, well, that's, I mean, feels like that's what's happening with Haley and Selena too. Not that we don't want to talk

about it again, but it just feels like, every, like dissecting every move. Oh my God, it is so out of hand. Yeah. That's crazy.

Everything. Every TikTok there's so many things being pulled back from the past. It's like, if you are, and you're just like, oh, if you are on TikTok and you are using a rare beauty

product right now, you are like, people are like, oh, they must be team Selena. Well, I just want everyone I want to know I use rare beauty blush every single day.

I want that on record. I use rare beauty every single day. I use the cream bronzer today. Because I love Selena's makeup brand. That's a fact. And you know what I also used? Wow. Maybe I could be the one to bring them together.

I also use my road this morning as long. How dare you use them together at the same time? It's the same. It's the same thing. It hasn't melted off my face. I haven't gone straight to hell. That's crazy. I'm still here.

I'm shocked and appalled. And they work beautifully together. They do. They really compliment each It just kind of signifies the fact that they could work together It's actually Do you want posted on her story and she was like I don't know if I'm becoming brainwashed or if these things are true

And I am feeling the same exact way It's the way the way the way I'm like I don't know Are they being mean? Are they crazy? I know I went down a rabbit hole I'm like I don't know what to think anymore Of somebody making a TikTok that was like Here are all the reasons why Haley has followed Selena in every single step of her career.

And I was like, what the fuck? And then like when they lay it all out, you're like, damn. It's like, okay, this is going too far. There's like just too, like there's also like, it's not like Selena Gomez is the only human in the world that does cooking on camera and does like and has beauty products. But there's just so many other things as well. What about her story yesterday?

Yeah, that story wasn't good. That story wasn't good. She posted. Oh, yeah, well, she's the song without Selena. Like, come on. Like that's not good. Like that one straight up like, that's intentional.

The beef, it certainly feels like it is, maybe it didn't start off as being real, but it feels real now. Fully real. That one was intentional. That's fucked up. Like you can, come on.

And it's also just like, help yourself out. Help yourself out. You know, they must just not give a shit. That's, I sometimes I don't want to hold back what I want to say,

but like sometimes I'm like, they know stuff we don't know. Well, 100%, which is like they, both of them, Selena knows stuff we don't know. Haley knows stuff we don't know. Justin knows a lot we don't know.

And nobody's pointing their fingers at Justin Bieber when he is like the root of all of this. Yeah, yeah. I did see, I also saw Justin Bieber. Is he that great? Because all these videos I'm seeing of Justin Bieber is he's a moody. He's a moody little guy.

Justin Bieber is so moody. No, you're not wrong. Like the tech tags I'm seeing so much lately. I'm like, oh my God. Who even wants to deal with him? I'm sorry. Just like, but you're not wrong.

Both of these ladies can do better. Yeah, the, you know? This guy, yeah, he's Justin Bieber and everybody loved him, but he is so freaking moody. They're really married, so, like, one of them really has to. She, but you see the clips,

it's almost like they talk about her, like, she's his babysitter. I think he, no, no, definitely. I'm sure they love each other. And I'm not doubting that. I think a lot of the things I'm seeing, I'm like, I think he struggles out in public. Behind closed doors, I feel like he's probably a much better version of himself. Probably.

I think like the one where she's like, what was our first kiss? And he's like, I don't know. He's like, I don't know. Yeah. There's just so many uncomfortable videos that are coming back to haunt them. Yeah, no. I know. I know.

But I do. And then Haley's like, he's not really involved in the planning at all of the wedding. And you're just like, no. These videos, they're more and more and more, and they're just not, they're not putting up a good fight. No, they're not putting up a good fight. The ammunition is there and people, they have it in their back pockets for all moments, right? Like, we talked about, like, Haley's old tweets coming back around, which we have talked about on the show before. The last time we talked about Haley and Selena, like, it's just every cycle it's brought up because people are learning new information.

and it feels like the younger people on TikTok are learning all this stuff for the first time so they think it's like the biggest deal ever and it's like no we've known this let's move on like it's over because they're like no but it's just wouldn't it isn't over anymore

it just started I know but it would die we thought it was over oh my God this is the worst it's ever been it would have died down it would have died down if like TikToks weren't made at the rapid rate that they are about it Not even that necessarily that comment.

But like, who knows how much the eyebrow thing would have been blown out of proportion if that girl didn't make a video on TikTok being like, she's shading Selena and then Kylie had to cop. You know, so it's like it comes from people just fueling the fire that they hate each other. And then it turns out like when they fuel the fire, it becomes real.

I'm seeing Kylie comment on all Haley's pictures lately, like the one of the recent ones. I'm like she turned her fucking comments off again. They're on. on again. All of them are just limited. No, they're on. And she, you could tell Kylie feel, I feel like, Kylie's probably like, fuck, like I started all of this.

Like, it's crazy. It's white the, like on both sides, it's like Selena's got Taylor, Haley's got the Jenner's. No, it's really, it's also crazy, I was going to say before that, Jimo. But people hate on the Kardashians, Jenner's way more easily than they're going to, you know what I mean? Like, they're easy

talking about. Also, Taylor Swift fans and Selena fans are just like, cutthroat. They are a cutthroat fan. base that I am afraid of. I'll say it. What about the believers? Because they're going to come after you after everything. I don't know if the believers are that strong anymore, man.

They got to realize that man is a moody. I'll say he is moody. I have no problem saying that Justin Bieber's moody. Put it on the quote. Yeah, no, I make another quote card about it so that I could wake up to everybody attacking me. Oh my gosh. Yeah.

Like at this point, no, we woke up on Friday and I saw it on the quote card. there was a quote card on chicks in the office that no one made and it was like me saying you know like selina you know probably shouldn't but i feel like the conversation itself we kind of we said we were fans of both of them and we yeah i thought the quote card said that i guess naive to the fact that it didn't because you said i get wanting to defend your friend but you know but when it says like just stop it's it just sound instead of hearing somebody say it when you read it it's it looks visually so i woke up to um selina fans really unhappy with me but i am a selina fan and So I just am confused.

Frustraing. Like I am one of you. I just, I was being naive and I thought, hey, maybe. You're just trying to come from both sides. I was just trying to help them out and say, hey, maybe they're not mean girls. And, you know, it's okay. But you know what? If everyone wants to think they're mean girls, then maybe they are.

That's the side I'm coming to now is that maybe they are. Maybe we were being too naive. I don't know anymore. I don't know anymore. I give up. I don't know anymore. I don't know. Okay, I just want peace between the two of them, but it's never going to happen.

It is more ramped up than ever. I don't want either of them to be mean. And if they are being mean, that's really unfortunate. Haley's story yesterday, not good. Not good. It's poor timing. Very poor timing. We're going to get into our Bachelor recap with Trent, but first got to remind you that

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We're back with another Bachelor recap. Trent is with us. People are shocked now. This is three weeks in a row, I think. It's about to come to an end. I want that to be clear. I scared him on cutting stems because I told you that Sarah has been keeping track of your attendance. Right.

And he thought no one was keeping track. And then he was like, he got worried. I almost didn't bring it up on cutting stems because I was like, when we miss weeks or when there's a holiday, does that count against me? And you said no. And then you said Sarah's keeping track. And that scared me a little bit because I have been good so far. but I was telling you guys before we started the travel's about to pick up

but I'm not going to be here next week. Next week. 71%? What did I sign on the contract? Oh no. Oh no. Was it 70? I think it was, yeah.

Or was it 75? We better hope it was 70. I can't remember. One of us should have kept that. I can't remember. You got a picture of it. I mean, we have the video where you're reading it. Yeah, yeah.

And we have a picture of it. Okay. That could be an issue. Now, because realistically, realistically we have like maybe five, six weeks left. My guess is five weeks. How many are you going to be missing from there? I would have to look at the schedule,

but I will not be here next week. We're on the road. And then the week after, I think I'll be here. And further than that, I haven't looked. But it might get a little bit dicey. Okay. I should have my lawyers look over. But is it cutting stems and recap podcast?

And live shows. Don't forget about live shows. That live shows was a different clause of the contract. I think the 70% is, the 70% is, it might just be cutting stems. We did it at what, the end of paradise? Wait, so was this before the new year? Yeah. Yeah.

Is it the, oh, I got it, I got it. Okay, 70% of cutting stems. Okay. The recap is not mentioned. Oh, so we may have shot ourselves in the floor. with the recap in our own language. Ria will be named Godmother. You'll attend two Chicks in the Office

Lab shows. Which I'm still in for? So read the line about cutting Sims. He's not moving to Chicago and he will attend 70% of cutting Sems in the year of 2023. Well, so that's the whole year. That's a whole year. That's more kind of sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like more seasons. Oh, I got more chances. Yeah. Like you can read. It's all the seasons.

And it also sounds like it's not recaps. Oh, but you do owe, Fran and you know of $5 next week. Oh, when I miss? When you miss, you owe them $5. Oh, so you probably owe us more than that. Weird that I didn't write myself into that part, but I guess because I... Well, you get to be gone by it.

I would be got another of you in Paracelton's... There's no monetary value on that. You can't buy it. You can't buy that. You can't buy it. You can't buy it. People don't talk about you and Paraselting and having a kid. Yeah, that was, it's been quite a time.

I haven't been sleeping as much, but... But you are doing well with the lower half of the contract saying, I will actively communicate when I will not be going to appear on the chicks and all the program. You have been actively communicating which we must congratulate you on. And there's been a lot of pleasant surprises

of Noah texting saying hey Trent you in tonight and you being like yeah. And not only is this good for work, this is good for life. I agree. Being able to communicate these things. It's really nice. It's a nice exercise.

It is. It's a respect thing. I couldn't agree more. I should have been doing it more in the past and, you know, I'm trying to be better going forward. Everybody makes mistakes. Yeah. Everybody has those days. Everybody knows what.

I appreciate you guys being so understanding. Everybody gets that way. Sometimes. You guys sing a song? No. Just an anthem of life. Nobody's, I thought that was nobody's perfect. Miley Cyrus.

It was. Oh, it was? Jesus. Well, you just said you weren't singing a sign. I was like, I thought you were. Did you get that joke? No. No, but there was a joke for us.

It was a joke for trying to be out of it. Because he's a loser. No. I'm just, I miss all of that. I miss everything. That was a joke for our listeners. Yes. Because the listeners know that song.

And then they'd be like, ha-ha, Ria said it wasn't a song. And then you go, there's nobody's perfect. Remember the old something last week? That's exactly how I said it was here. Me and Noah spent some time together. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, I wanted to, before we get into the recap.

I actually had a fucking bone to pick with you. No, there always is. We were doing so good. I have a bone to pick with you every week. My footstop. What do you got? You texted Robbie and I in a group. chat and you said you guys got any places that to go from me and Noah to grab food before this

concert. Yeah? And I gave you a recommendation. And then I heard from my boyfriend who was going to meet up with you guys that you were going. From my boyfriend. Going to the place that I recommended to you. But you never answered. You never said thank you. You never said, oh, that looks good. Who decided to go there? You never said thanks for the recommendation. You didn't have to say thanks for the record. It doesn't even have to be that polite. But I sent you the whole menu. I sent you the name. and then you guys went to that place. You said the whole menu? So when Marty told me he was going to meet up with you guys

and I was going to dinner with Fran and I was like, oh, where are you going? And he was like, American Whiskey. I was like, that fucking son of a bitch, Trent. I told him to go there and he didn't even answer my text. I thought that you wrote that recommendation off. I thought you saw him and thought no good. I'm not going there.

But you saw it and you took that, didn't you? Yeah. But like I get what Trent's doing. Like, I'm a big, I'll see it. I'm like, oh, yeah, that's good. And I just not respond. Right. But I kind of was just like, man,

He couldn't even say that was a good. I like knowing that I gave you a good spot. No, literally all it takes is saying like, THHX. Just like, not just like, maybe I'm asking for too much. Actually, you know, I don't think you are. Maybe I'm being too picking. You know what, bare minimum you like the message.

Yeah, thumbs up it. You say, oh, American whiskey, that looks great. Thumbs up. It was more just like, I wrote so many messages. You're going to have to scroll off. I'm going to have to scroll off. I like wrote so much that day. Yeah, but was Marty, like I wasn't sure who decided to go there.

I was under the assumption that Marty and then were going and me and Trent were kind of like meeting with that. Oh, well, that's what Rhea is saying. Her bone to pick isn't with you. It's with Trent. My bone to pick is that Trent specifically asked for recommendation near MSG. I named a spot near MSG that I thought decent food, decent drinks, bar, atmosphere, and was just expect.

And then when I heard you guys were all going there and I was like, oh, so he took my recommendation. Good to know, but would have been nice to hear from Trent. Thank you for the recommendation. Also, if you check your phone, you're going to have a nice little message. But no, we did go there. I think we went there because of your recommendation. It's a solid spot.

They had great tater tots. The tater tots were magnificent. They have great tater tots. A lot of people got the lamppist. Robbie's going to be so confused. Robbie's going to be confused by that. Robby's going to be confused by that. No, the recommendation was wonderful.

Thank you. Listen, I'm not looking for a whole spiel of power graph. You sure? No, it just goes back to the communication. It just goes back to me. I'm teaching you on how. to be a better communicator. That one, I'm not going to...

It's about for the future people that have to interact with you. The cutting stems... Because I will get past it. She's right. And I will forgive you like I have many times before. Okay. But was someone else in your life? Maybe a lucky lady.

Maybe a lucky man. We don't know. I don't know what your extracurricular activities are. Well, no and I did go on a date to a concert. But a head bobby. So how was the Nas concert? incredible. It was incredible.

And now Noah, you did get your big moment because you always think that somebody's going to bring out a guest. And there was multiple people. And there was multiple surprise guests. Mary J. Blige came out. Which is awesome. She is awesome. She did.

Yeah. I mean. She lives on fire. But honestly. How awesome does she sound live? I got to imagine. Did she not sing? Wasn't she lip sing?

I don't. I couldn't tell. For a second I thought she was. I thought she wasn't even. But maybe she. No, I think she sang. Yeah. That would be absolutely insane if she was lip syncing.

She's not a lip-sinker. Yeah, yeah. She just did the song that she doesn't know. It sounded so good that I thought. But I thought maybe you do the song, you do with that person, but then you do do one of your big ones. It was a brief appearance. It was very quick.

It was probably like 30 seconds, maybe. Oh. Like she came on and off. Did he bring anybody else out? Slick Rick? Who you guys? I'm not even like that. Well, verse I just know he's like a legend in the game.

And then that was it. And then he brought out. He brought out AZ. Yeah. Someone else came out. But honestly, with everyone coming out, Nause was like the best part of it. He was just so good. He was just so good.

He was just so good. Like, I could have, he could have brought no one out and I would have the same exact reaction. We did. You don't want to have them to the club at the time? I did not want to go to the club after now. Yeah, me and Trent came back to the office and I was like, all right, I guess I'll go meet up with them. We were going to lie to you and say that it was a bar. It was somebody's idea.

I think, who said that. No, I think it was my idea. If Trent came with us, that would have just been all the time. I think Noah said, why don't we lie to Trent and tell him like it's a bar? I said he will walk in and walk out immediately. I wouldn't even want to go through that page. No, well, he would just see. He would see the people waiting outside and turn around.

or fuck of people trying to get in and be like, I'm out of you. No, yeah, no way. You would have fun though inside the place because the music is like your kind of music. Oh, really? Yeah, it's also very dark, which I love. Yeah, and you could sit down. You could sit down. Huge.

Like there's just a nice little couch area you to sit down. That's usually like the guys thought. I can be convinced to do more things if I have the ability to sit down. You will, you have ability to sit down at this place. Yeah, also loves to be able to sit down. Same. How great is it? Although not many people were sitting there.

Like you just like Like you just want the But the guys were like Yeah Actually no you can sit on top of the You can sit on the thing You can sit on the couch You just want the option

A head bob to some good music Elevated surfaces Yeah I did a lot of head bobbing And nose We would have done what we were doing earlier We just some We'll catch you next time

Yeah Maybe But the Nause The head bobbing at Nause Oh I was We were just It's great I was going lyrics

Line for line So good Line for line You and Naz The crowd is going crazy You sent a very funny video of a little of a dad and his son It was like a headline like

Dad and Son like at Nas concert And I was like Trent who I didn't see someone film this video It was good Really good Yeah Shout out game time Shout out game time

Shout out Big stuff from game time Um Okay the Bachelor this week Is in There Those pesky Contestants are in Estonia

Zach is out of lock down his own quarantine, whatever they had him do. Greer, however, has been put in. So she's not in this episode at all. Yeah. Asymptomatic. Tuff little run for Greer. Yeah, definitely a tough run. And so they're in Estonia and I'm, oh, Charity. Like for a second, the name just escaped me. Charity gets to redo her one-on-one date after she was supposed to have one in London. Didn't work out. They get to go on this date. The date is fine.

We don't even really have to get into too much detail on the date itself. They did like, you know, some silly obstacle course. Carrie, the woman types thing that was bizarre. And then, you know, classic carriage ride, dinner. And everything went well. You know, I do think he likes charity. I don't know if he likes charity as much as everybody else. Charity seems great.

And she definitely opened up to Zach. and they had a great conversation. But Zach is very quick to throw out a lot of reassurances to some of these women. And I feel like he wasn't quite doing that with charity. So it wasn't like, it wasn't like his date with Ariel where he's like, this girl. Right. Oh, my God. You're right.

We have so much evidence of him giving those reassurances to these other women that when he doesn't do it, it's a flag of like, oh, this might not go as far as they think. doesn't mask it as well. The drama was that when Zach went to pick up charity for the one-to-one date, Kat said hey, can I have a second? They went on to the hallway. She said she missed him.

They had a little kiss. And that did not sit well with some of the girls, especially Brooklyn. Brooklyn was quite upset, snapped at her. Cat can make that move, but she's got to deal with the girls being mad at her after her. That's just going to happen.

Yeah, I see both sides of it. I understand I understand Kat wanting to get time with Zach because they haven't seen him in like a week or whatever. And I also understand Brooklyn and all the other women being like, you're kind of ruin in Charity's moment when you do that because he's there to pick her up and for you to pull him out. It's a weird move, but I'm okay. I'm okay with it.

But like you said, you got to expect that everyone in the house is going to not like that at all. And Kat didn't seem to quite understand that, which is where I disagree with her. But the move I don't fully disagree with. Yeah. Just do it. You're all kind of dating this guy.

It's kind of weird. Just get as much time with him as you can. And he definitely said, like, I like the cop. Like, he was like, that was a bold move. You got to get your time when you can. But, yeah, you can't, if you're going to do it, you have to accept that the girls are going to be upset. Did Brooklyn get, like, a little bit too involved?

Yep. 100%. She felt like wasn't her date, but she really, like, just thought she was fighting the good fight there, like, being like, I will stand up to her. Yeah. I didn't like Cat just being like, well, Brooklyn is being mean to me now and hurting my feelings. Well, it's like, well, you made the bold move.

You got to live with the consequences. True. And nobody, they don't have to apologize to you now. But that was the big drama there. The group date was with a good witch. She claimed to be a good witch. Yep. Yep.

I didn't like this date personally. Yeah. I mean, are you scared of witches? I'm not scared of witches. I just didn't like that one. I just feel like out of all the things you can do in a cool new place doing this is kind of like there's so many other things they probably

could have done. I'm not like fully against it. I don't really care that much. I don't have a strong opinion on this date. It's more just like you're in a whole different country. There had to been something else for them. You could have done the witch thing in any place that you went to. Yeah. True. I'm scared about

I get nervous about going against witches. I'm not against witch. at all. No, no, neither am I. All right, let's draw that line in the sand. We're not anti-witch. We are definitely not. And, you know, she wanted to expel the negative energy. They had this, like, candle

moment where, like, the, Zach, and then each girl, like, held the candle and they stared into each other's eyes. And Jess has been feeling fairly insecure about her position. She was, like, I didn't get the one-on-one, really overthinking, like, what it means to get the last one-on-one,

basically being like, he likes me the least, because he hasn't taken me on a date. And then their flame went out during the candle thing. So it was just ominous. You just can't, if you're a producer, you can't ask for anything much more than that. Jess is freaking out. They're doing the candle and the flame gets blown out. Yeah.

You know, it's unfortunate for Jess, but it was great TV. It's just like maybe a fan from offset, just like gust of wind. They definitely like, something happened there. The witch was like, just under, trying to blow it out under her without showing it off. They told the witch to make sure that that. They said, hey, make sure that that flame goes out for this one. That thing's got to go out. Yeah.

So Jess and Zach have a conversation that does not really go well. And I will say it feels like Zach has at a couple moments. Yep. In the last few weeks where people are kind of scratching their heads and thinking, I don't really like the way he reacted to that situation. It's not crazy for Jess to go in there and be like, hey, you know, we're getting down closer to the end here. and we haven't actually spent any one-on-one time together

and him be like, one-a-ones, whoa, what are we talking about one-of-ones here? Like, it's like, no. That's a good, Zach. One-on-ones are important. It's not crazy for her to be like, I'm nervous, I haven't gotten a one-on-one, and then he, like, snapped at her that she was getting mad about it.

His reaction was so bizarre. It goes a little bit back to the Greer thing. And what she's saying, the way that she said, and I think the way that he took it, was that she, she wants a one-on-one because that's what you do in the bachelor process. Right.

When what she is saying is she wants to spend more time with him. But he took it as like this, you're looking at it too much like a show and the process of how this all works. I almost think he thought she meant like she wanted more air time or something. I thought that too. He's almost being like too much of a, I'm a noble guy. And I need everybody here for the right reason. And I can like pick when I want to see you guys and you don't decide and I decide. I'm not necessarily a big Zach fan.

I'm not going to buy. He's done everything right until these last two instances with Greer and now with Jess, where you can kind of see where things could go sideways if you were dating him. I'm hoping that sometimes you don't know how you react to things until you are forced to watch yourself react to it, you know? Yeah. So I'm kind of hoping that him watching this will be maybe a little bit of a wake-up call like, I didn't look good there. he did do an interview and they asked about the Greer thing and he was like, oh, I totally, I totally handled that like the wrong way. Like I understood what she was trying to say and

blah, blah, blah. So whatever, maybe he does realize what he did. Maybe he doesn't. But if you keep watching yourself, you got to be like, hmm, like, I don't really like how I went about that. And it just almost feels like he keeps saying the same things to a lot of the girls. And then if something does go sour, it's like, oh, well, now I'm not confident. Like, he went into sitting down with Jess kind of saying all the same things with like, I really like where things are going and blah, blah, blah. And then Jess voiced her concern. And then by the end of the conversation, he was like, well, I'm really confused right now.

Like, I don't think that this is going to work. Like, it was like, whoa, where, how did we go from there to there? They started that interaction with a kiss. Yeah. They kissed. And then we're like, I'm so excited to see you. Yeah. And all, truly all she was.

saying was like I really value quality time and I just don't I'm not getting that and he and I don't know why he didn't understand that like in that situation you you reassure the girl if you really do like her you're like oh I'm so sorry like don't worry we'll get the time

and he did he kind of like got angry about and then her response was reality based where she was like I'm not fighting for this yeah she's I'm not begging for you. You could almost see it in her eyes when she realized like, I don't even like this guy. Right. Right. Like you can see it in her face, the immediate like, I'm turned off. And I think he was, I think she was also thinking like, this guy's really going to tell me right now because of this. Like,

he's really going to send me home because of this conversation. And they're all joking about it. She made a TikTok's joking about it. And it did come off like, Zach has so many women in the house that he likes and that like him that if there's one that doesn't like him as much, he's going to send her home, which makes sense logically if you just look at it, but the way it went down felt very odd. Yeah, it did. It did, because it really did seem like,

it really did seem like he liked Jess a lot. So, if it's just one little thing where he's like, this isn't going to work now, that could obviously be an issue when it gets down to

three or four girls and they actually have to have serious, like, real conversation and if they don't go well, what's it going to do, send them all home? Right, or post show when it's one. Yeah. And then he has a disagreement with her.

And is he just going to be like, well, we disagree on this. So we now have to break up. I saw this posted on Twitter and then also somebody wrote it into cutting stems where it was like this watching him interact in this way really does make you think what went down in the fantasy suite with Rachel. Because it was like, clearly they had some kind of disconnect. but watching him have these interactions, it's like she could have said she likes spearmint gum over mint gum.

She doesn't like Twitch. Right. And he was like, well, you never said that before. Right. Like you would think like you would think of disagreement like that would be like, I don't want to move to where you live. Yeah, yeah. Like that's going to be our disagreement.

But I think with Zach, it goes all the way down to what do you like on your pizza? Right. Yeah. And somebody else said in the cutting stems group on YouTube that because he said something about his parents never fighting, that now when he gets into any sort of little conversation that may be leading towards an argument, he's automatically out, which is not the best way to look at any situation.

Because also, you're going to have arguments, and it doesn't even have to be an argument. It can also be a discussion. Like, it's not an automatic, like, screaming fight. You work through all, like, you're never going to 100% agree. with somebody on every single thing, I don't think that feels unrealistic to me. It's unrealistic. There's going to be something that you have a disagreement on

and you have to be able to talk through it. Like you can't just... You can't just be like, you know what? Call up the SUV please and then they leave. Yeah, and it's also like, Zach, there's no... Your parents had to have some argument, some time down the line. It's not... Maybe not in front of you.

Right. My parents did not shy away from fighting in front of me as good. Everyone who's ever been in a relationship. Still have not shied away from fighting in front of me. Anyone who's been in relationship who has parents, everybody's going to have that. Those who are going to be more obsessed with each other. So, like, you know, it's like, it's not a crazy thing that an argument here or there is, you know, anyway.

It really does feel like that is something. I hope that doesn't continue, but it certainly might. Something to monitor going forward. Yeah, because now it's becoming, feels like it's becoming more of a trend. He didn't give out a group day rose at that date. And then he had his one-on-one with Ariel, who I think is just my number one. Not even necessarily for Zach, I just think I like her the best out of all the girls on the season. She seems mature, cool, confident, funny, all the things.

She's stunning. She's absolutely stunning. And they had a really great date. even with like a silly thing like having to deal with naked people in a bathhouse. Yeah, no, this is an Ariel fan club right now. It is. I think she's great. She seems great.

And then she also, she is cool. She's confident. She's kind of been playing. Like, she's just cool. She's a cool girl. And then, but when they do the one-on-one interview, she's like, I've been alone for way too long. I'm sick of being alone.

So she's got that side where you're like, I really wanted to work out for her. I don't know if it's with Zach. We had talked a little bit about, you know, if she doesn't win, Bachelorette material for sure. She would be a great bachelorette. I just hope it works out for her because she's great. Yeah, I don't really have anything to criticize or say about their date. I thought it was a great date.

She was funny. Zach is, I think Zach was definitely curious by her at the beginning. And then this one-on-one date, like, confirmed that now he's fully, I think, full-blown infatuated with her, like really thinks. He just had so many, he was really kind of beaming about how much he liked Ariel. which, like I said, you can tell when he has different reactions to different dates. And that one felt different. That one felt different. The charity one felt different and going the other way.

When he hangs out with Katie, I think he really likes Katie. Yeah. But then it was different when he was with Ariel. Yeah. Those were like three different tiers to me. Definitely, definitely. So that date went swimmingly. They're good to go.

Cocktail party. They, Zach continues to do his reassurance situation. Oh, that's going to blow up. That's going to blow up. It's going to blow up. I mean, he spoke to Gabby, and he basically was like, I'm so confident in us. So confident. Like, if I'm in Gabby's shoes, I'm like, I got this in the fucking bag.

Right. Like, he's not saying this to everybody. No way. He couldn't. Who would? Who would do that? I'm so confident. And definitely giving the reassurance.

So all those girls, I definitely feel like they're in a good place. Kat was nervous because of what went down with Brooklyn and the girls arguing. and Brooklyn's really, really yapping at her. Well, yeah, because Charity and Kat, they, like, went to the side and were like, let's talk about this, which I thought was a nice move. Charity very, it was a very mature move. It was like, well, let's separate from the group. I want to talk to you.

And then Brooklyn just kicked in the door and was like, I have a question. And Kat, I agree with her. She's like, this is me and Charity's thing. It's not, Brooklyn clearly doesn't like Kat and it's just seeing this as an opportunity to get at her. In that situation, it was like, okay, Brooklyn, now you're overstepping. And Kat overstepped first by pulling him and you guys can be upset. Like now this is not your problem and charity's trying to deal with it. And you're just making it more difficult.

Yep. So Kat was worried about not getting a rose. She was always going to get a rose. He, I think, really likes her too. Yeah. And we just never, Allie went home, right? Allie went home. And honestly, like, he still sort of gave her the reassurance in their conversation.

You know, like he still kind of was like, you know, we're in a good place and things are, which of course, unless you're going to send the girl home right there in that moment, you kind of have to say whatever you're going to say before the rose ceremony. True. But I don't know. I feel like Allie probably didn't see that coming. No. It's a great season because I don't know who's going to win. No. Don't have a clue.

Like Gabby could easily win. Ariel could easily win. I think Kat could win I think Katie could win Katie could definitely win Yeah That's how many we got left

How many contestants? I think I think charity Charity Charity Greer is going to come back Greer's gone She's gone

She's gone as soon as she comes back Yeah Brooklyn She's been You missed a week You missed a week Yeah Oh Brooklyn

Brooklyn's still there That's honestly Kind of it We're at the end here Seven or eight, six or seven. Yeah. So Greer's going to come back next week. I don't think Zach is going to maybe entertain that.

I don't know. Yeah. I don't think so. Yeah. And then we're going to have some big fantasy sweet drama, it seems. So what did he say? I missed that. He was like, no sex.

He said no sex? Kind of. No sex in the champagne room? He basically said no. He was like, no sex. Strange to just put that out there right away. Because then he is going to have sex and somebody's going to get mad. Exactly.

Like, he's going to slip up. Right. Because he's going to be tempted to have sex. It's a fantasy sweet. Obviously. And then everyone's going to be like, you said no sex. Why would he say no sex? So I can't just write off sex like that.

I don't know if he thought it's going to be open to the possibility. You got to be open to the possibility. You're going to be tempted by it. I'm thinking maybe. It's why we're here. I know. It's why we are sitting here today. Everybody's just passing the baton generation after generation.

And why? It's because of sex. It is. And, you know, the forbidden Kanye once said none of us would be here with outcome, which is true. That's true. How dare you quote him. I know. I apologize.

I said the forbidden. You just can't. But he did say that. And it is true. The, um, he said a lot of other untruthes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

That was, ooh. We got there. We got there. He, uh, I think maybe like, because he is coming from Gabby and Rachel. season, he knows what all that drama was with Clayton, with the sex and the drama, and maybe he was just like,

I'm just going to nip it. I'm just going to sip, sip, little vasectomy for the fantasy sweets. No sex. It's weird to me to make a declaration like that. Not that a deceptomy would stop him from having sex. Sure, that's not on that way. You can't make it up.

It turns into a biologist. Like, Snipip just takes off his penis. You can't make a declaration. You can. On that. Because you're going to, he's going to slip off. Speaking of vasectomy, I just found out the other day that you can un-cut. Oh, yeah.

You can reverse them, yeah. Which is crazy to me. That's the, that's the snip, snap, snip, snap with Michael Scott. Yeah, that's wild. The body, man. I don't know what I think about it. I would say it's probably not recommended. I don't think it is.

I feel like that's probably not. Like, you can't just like turn the faucet off, turn it back on, turn the flight. Right, because then when I want to do that, you probably shouldn't be doing it multiple times. They wouldn't want to have kids. They would just be like, oh, I want to turn this off right now. And then when I do, I want to turn it back on, if it was safe, people would do it I bet medically we'll get there eventually. I don't know exactly what they cut.

I don't know how thin it is. It's the vast deference. Yeah. Yeah. If I'm not mistaken. I don't know. That would make sense with the name. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So I guess he, I don't know. Maybe that's like what influenced him to say. Like I'm just not going to have any of that drama. But then he definitely does. He's definitely going to happen or somebody's going to, he's going to tell somebody that this is a problem. Right. If he like ends up picking, it's like, oh, you make a no-sex rule.

You have sex with one of the girls. And then you pick one of the, you pick one of the, you pick one, you pick the girl you didn't have sex with. Ooh. You'd be like, I actually had, I actually had sex with so and so. It's not going to go over well. So we got, you get four hometowns and then three fancy suite. Correct. Okay.

Yeah, I mean, it's going to come down to it. I think I know who the four and three are. It's certainly the four. Yeah. But I don't know who's going to make it to the two and the one. I'm thinking Gabby right now. That's who I have is my number one. I think that would be, if you're making odds,

that would be the most likely. Yeah. I would go Gabby, Katie, Ariel, Cat. My list would be the same. Yeah. Gabby feels like she's number one right now. Yeah. He's got a lot of confidence. Tons.

But again, he's tons of confidence in her. He's got a ton of confidence in a lot of these women, it seems. Yeah. So, all right, we'll see what happens next week. If Greer comes back, hopefully, Zach doesn't snap it in any of the other girls and probably sends them home. I'm going to put that in the something to monitor category where he, the way he reacts to some of that stuff is.

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terms apply. All right, everyone, we are here with a very special guest. We are joined by the lovely, funny, Zandra Pole, TikTok, sensation. She's partying. She's traveling. She's on makeup trips. She's doing it all now in New York City for business, it seems. Yeah, I'm a business girl. Welcome to the show. We are so excited to have you on. We've both been following you for a while now. We think you're hilarious. And we're excited to have you here. Well, thanks for having me, guys. Yeah, and this is your first podcast. Yes, this is like my first anything. Which is incredible.

Yeah, yeah. It's all happening. Yeah. It's all happening right now. I mean, we've been following you and your videos and we're just, they're just like mesmerizing. And I feel like you've created your own language that people love. Oh, my God. Do people like come up and talk to you like you now?

They're like, oh my God, that's disgustin. And they're like, you look boozy. And I'm like, oh my God, guys. Like, I didn't even realize I was doing it. And then, like, all of a sudden, like, it's like catchphrases. Like, I'll see you guys. Like, people are coming up to me saying that. And I didn't even realize I was doing it.

I think that's why you are so captivating on TikTok. Because, like, obviously, you're a beautiful girl. People want to watch what you're wearing, makeup. But at the same time, you're also hilarious. So it's like you have the personality to match that. And I think that's why you're doing so well and why people want to watch you. how like you said people are coming up to you when did that start to happen when did the change start because i feel like with tic-tac it's happened overnight for so many people like and you just blow up like

that yeah i'd say like i don't know it like kind of i feel like the first person i ever came up to me it was at a club at miami and she was like oh my gosh like i watch your ticot's fuck your ex-boyfriend and i was like whoa i'm like whoa that's like dope and she like asked for a picture and And then, like, ever since then, I feel like more and more people, like, every time I go out, it's, like, someone's saying something. It's just crazy because I make these stupid videos. And, like, I just kind of, like, show my life. And all of a sudden, like, I forget that there's, like, actually people watching.

When did you post your first TikTok? Oh, my first TikTok was, like, my freshman year of college. Okay. But I, like, didn't actually, like, it was just, that's when, like, Addison Ray and, like, Dameleo, like, everyone was dancing. And I'm like, I can't fucking dance. Like, but I kept. all those videos up.

Oh my God, I should be saying that. People are going to scroll back far now. Don't scroll back that far. But no, yeah. I, like, just started really posting TikToks. And I'd say, like, beginning of October. That's when I was like, fuck it. Did you go into the mindset of like, yeah, I want to make it on TikTok?

Or were you like, I'm just going to have fun and see what happens? Oh, no. I like never like, when I, this has been the biggest change in my life ever. I was not expecting this. I was just expecting, you know, I'll make a couple of people laugh. It was just fun for me. Like I can't even do my makeup now and like not make a video. Because I'm like sitting there like literally talking to myself like a psychopath.

I'm like, hey guys. I think it's so funny with the get ready with me. And I feel like other people say this when you're like, I'm in a rush. Like I only have 10 minutes and you're like, but you're filming this video. I know. But like it's that like it honestly makes me go faster. Yeah. Yeah.

And then I start like dilly dally. And like when I'm doing my video, I'm like sitting down in front of my vanity. But when I'm not, I'm like the most like ADD person. I'll get up, start making soup dumplings, not like go over, like, start cleaning my room, like, God knows what else. So it just, it actually makes me go faster, which is weird. So you're a senior at Miami right now in Miami, Florida. Not the University of Miami. Ohio. University of Miami. Because she is from Ohio. And the University of Miami. And so obviously,

like, everyone has this idea of what going to school is like at the University of Miami. And I feel like the way that you have been popping off, it's kind of like fed into that stereotype of like what everyone's doing. How has like your college life changed now like from when you started to when to where you are now? Like actual college life. Like actual like going to class. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well I don't really go to class. You're not in class right now. It's a Tuesday. I was like, one o'clock. I was like, because it's like everybody, the funniest thing is, is the people who comment on post being like, why aren't you in class? It's like, you know why she's not. Why would I be in class right now?

Don't be stupid. Yeah, yeah. It's just like one of those things. It's like, I feel I like plan on my schedule really, really well. Like I got all my hard classes done during COVID. I was like, we're just going to hit them all on Zoom. And then now, yeah, now I'm on my last semester senior year. And I taking like dance classes.

Literally dance, like dance, hip hop, rock, and geology. Yeah, yeah. Like, be fucking for real. Yeah, yeah. And like, if you don't go to these classes. Rocks for jocks. That's what they call geology classes. No, literally, the amount of athletes in those classes, it's like athletes in me.

And I'm like, yeah. Do the professors get, like, mad or they're like, yeah, this is dance class. Like, it's okay that you didn't show up. I feel like, it really, are they watching your TikToks? They're like, oh, she's busy. She's not going to make it. Has a professor ever said anything to you? Me personally, no, probably because they don't even know who I am

because I don't go to college. They're like, what is this bitch? She's in my class? No, I'm like, I could literally go to class and they're like, who is this bitch? But no, yeah, I like professors and stuff, like, I don't know, like for the most part. I'm kind of like, I'm literally, actually right now I'm like missing a test and I like told my professors I'm like, yo, like I'm going on a work trip. Is there anyway?

Like, we can do it like next. and he was like, yeah, he was cool with it. Yeah. So at the end of the year, like, and you're graduating, like, what are they going to do to you? Like, no, you can't graduate now. And you're working. Like, you're already doing basically what people go to college for.

That's where I'm, well, yeah, yeah, I guess. It's like, it already got the business classes out of the way. Those, like, they, Miami business classes. I'm a major in marketing and a minor in music business. Very cool. And you DJ, you're a DJ. That's like my thing. That's really cool.

I've been doing that since I was a job. junior in high school. Is that something? Is that where you really want to go with this? Or like, are you just like whatever opportunity comes your way? I kind of like, that's kind of why I started TikTok. I was, they were just like, hey, like for DJing and stuff, like, it's all about marketing and like being able to like post about all this stuff. They're like, the more of falling you have, like, the easier it is to get gigs. For sure. Yeah. And I was like, okay. Like go crazy, go stupid. Yeah. That's why I started posting. And like now all of a sudden it's like this other stuff. But DJing has always been. And, like, my passion. I love it.

I love going out clubbing with my friends. That was always the best part of it. It's like I'm playing music that me and all my friends are going to love. Like we get a table, free bottles. And it's a girl's night. It's like the girl gang comes. It's so much fun. We were just talking about there's literally nothing better than going to a club and

that playing good music. Because sometimes when you go and you're just like, why are they playing Taylor Swift Love Story for like the thousandth time? Like I've had that experience where I'm just like, this is not going to get me going. There's nothing better than something. somebody who knows good music I know. I guess,

I can pop up. There's different types. But like the love story remix just isn't cutting it from me anymore. But you have a great DJ name. Have you ever thought about that? Zandra. Oh. Zandra?

Yeah, it is. Something like the X feel like just screams DJ. Just anything with an X in it. Because it's one of those letters. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good DJ name.

It's a cool letter. Yeah. People are always like, because I, growing up, my full name's Alexandra Pohl. So when I was younger, people used to call me A-Pole in grade school. Then high school, my nickname was AP. Everyone called me AP. And then in college, I came and I was like, oh, which should my DJ name be?

And I'm, like, going back and forth, I could do like some, like, crazy name. And I was like, why not I just use the other half of my name? So now it's just Zandra pole. Zandra. It's like, everyone calls me Zandra. I like it. And especially because it works like, I'm thinking, like, all caps. That's like, that's literally my logo, just like all caps.

Just all caps. It's great. It's smart and it's awesome And I feel like if you can turn that into like such a big thing Especially now with the massive following I feel like so many people see Or like they think I'm gonna post on TikTok Like I want to get all the followers

And then they don't know how to actually turn that into Like getting opportunities And like you're here on a work trip Like you were posting on TikTok How what's that in between like Where all of a sudden like it's like okay, this girl's blown up on TikTok. Like, who comes into your life to say,

I will help you get you into these events and do these things? Red carpet. Like, do you have a management team now? Literally, my manager, Haley. Okay. Like, without her, I'd be, like, drowning and see somewhere. And, like, does somebody like that reach out to you being like, hey, I want to work with you?

Yeah. So I actually, that's kind of what they do. They kind of, like, go through and they find people that they can connect with. And she reached out, and she pitched herself. I was like, I think we're in love. Yeah. And now we're here. Like she's literally in the office.

Yeah. Like somewhere. It's just like, yeah. It's all about having people that you like really trust and have your best interest at heart. And like once you trust them like now I'm now I'm here doing this. Like now I'm on this podcast. Like who would have thought.

Exactly. You always have to surround yourself by good people. But I feel like the public sees people and they're like, how are these, everybody from TikTok is going to all these amazing events. like how are they doing this? There is like such a behind the scenes. Oh my gosh. Like I would literally, I don't, I'd be nowhere.

It's one of those things that's like so much does go into it. It's like you are posting those like I'm literally posting all these videos and like she's working in the backhand like helping me out with literally everything. And it's just like having an amazing team. Like that's what's all about. You just don't like see them all. Yeah. Yeah.

And you've had a lot of amazing opportunities. One of the biggest ones that I think was talked about the most, was the Dubai tart trip. Yes. Were you guys on that trip talking about the fact that everyone's talking about you guys being on this trip? Like there was so, like, I don't know why there was so much discussion around it because I felt like it wasn't the first time we've seen that ever.

Like, there's been so many branded trips. But for some reason, this one was just talked about so much. It's Dubai and it was like lavish. Yeah. It was just dope. Yeah. Like I was there, like we kind of, I feel like once we were there, like we kind of heard And we were like, oh, like, people are like really talking about it.

And then I was like, I don't know. Like, we're all in Dubai. We're having a good time. Like, the Tar team is the most amazing team out there. Like, they're some of my best friends. Like, I text them on the daily and it's like, smart by them. I know. Smart marketing by them.

I'm like best. He's out there. You know what I mean? So, yeah, I think they like absolutely killed it with the marketing. And it was an amazing experience with amazing people. And I went trade for the world. I brought my mom. and I were getting hammered the whole time.

That was really cool. You posted a really funny TikTok of your mom, like, falling off a camel. Yeah, my mom ate it. They were like, oh, my gosh, Sandra, like, your mom just fell off a camel. I was like, get fucked, mom. Yeah, that's perfect. Great video. Yeah.

Who did you have the most fun with on the trip? Oh, I don't know. Like, literally everyone. Yeah. Like, I went with some girls that obviously, like, I've known for a long time. And, like, some girls that I was mutual with most of them. And obviously, like, the Tart team and themselves, like, I just everyone. I feel like it was just, like, a huge, like, big trip.

It's like those trips are so you can, like, all these people that we all do the same thing. We all have the same love and passion for, like, makeup, beauty, social media, content creation. It's like we all can come together and just have a good old jolly time in Dubai. How long were you there? Because it's really, really far. And I feel like you were, like, a couple days in Dubai. Like, people don't go for a weekend to Dubai. It was literally, we can, but like people were saying it's not even, we were like in the desert

of Dubai. We weren't. We were like on the outskirts. Yeah. But I feel like we were there for like three days. It was like a fever dream. Yeah, yeah. It seemed really quick from an outsider's perspective.

I was literally, and it was so funny, I was vomiting the whole entire way home off the flight. Oh. On an Emirates flight, like a guy literally came out of the bathroom and I was like, I literally looked at my mom and I did the little thing, you know, when you're younger. You're like, mom. Yeah. She was like, white. And I was like, whew.

Yeah. I was running this, like, guy comes out and I'm like all over the toilet, spotted out. It was awful. But exciting at the same time. Oh, but it was great. Honestly. I'm having fun while doing this. It's a long, that's a long flight to be thrown up on, I will say.

It was like 16 hours. Yeah. That's a day. That's a full day. That's a full day. Would you ever, this is a strange question, but do you ever like you get really sick right and you're throwing up, but like something about it, you're like, this is, like, this feels good. No.

No. No, in a weird way, you're like, ah, like, because you felt so sick before. You know what I mean? No, but I... Well, sometimes if you have like the stomach bug, maybe, hungover, throw up. Like, it's like a... No, it wasn't like a hungover throat up, though.

That was like the problem. Oh, you were sick. But you're like, genuinely sick. Yeah, like, the sickness is coming out of me. Yeah, no, I did feel a lot better. I like... I like... I would give you that, like, before that.

I was like... Deep sweats, like... I was tweaking. There's nothing worse than getting, like, the meat sweats. No, it's what it feels like. It was literally like the meat sweatsets like on a plane and, like, that I'm right's flight of tense coming here. She's like, are you okay?

And I was like, no. She's like, doing food. I was like absolutely not. Yeah, it's the last thing. Last thing you want right now. Everybody freaks out because you and Alex Earl are at the same school. And it's like everybody, how do you guys feel like how? When did you two originally meet?

Because you are friends. We've been friends since freshman year. Yeah. It was since before freshman year ever started. So it's like people, I think that was like mind blowing when people were like, oh my God, they know each other. It's like, yeah. especially we've been best friends.

They've been friends for a long time. Yeah. And you, like, how, when it comes to female friendship, it can be hard, especially, like, in college, too. So how do you deal with kind of, like, blowing up now, having the little bit of the social media fame and legit fame at this point? And then, like, you're like, oh, I just, I'm going to go hang out with my friends. And, like, is there jealousy comes into play or is everyone cool about it?

I, like, not at all. I mean, like, me and my, like, all of us, we have, like, a huge group of us. We've all been friends literally since the beginning of freshman year. And so it's just one of those things. It's like, we just have, like, such a supportive friend group that it's like they're just, like, so happy for us. And it's like, we're all about to graduate college. We're all doing different things, different paths. And it's just, like, so great that, like, you're seeing everyone kind of go and, like, do their own thing.

And, like, it's just amazing, like, some of my best friends, like, lots of them are moving New York City. like getting into fashion, somewhere getting into makeup, like banking, accounting, and like we're all following all our passions, and it's just like... So that's really cool. A lot of smart people at the University of Miami. It's hard to get into.

That's what I'm saying. It's funny because people see it and they're like, oh, they're parting all the time, but it's like... It's a very hard to get into. It's so hard to get into. So you can't be a dumb dumb. I know.

You literally, that's... People are like, oh, like, you're so stupid. You don't go to class, like all this stuff. I'm like, I don't think you understand. Like, I worked my entire. life so hard so I could come to college and have the time of my life like I worked my ass off in high school yeah and you're like I did I used to go to class maybe I'm not going anymore I'm like I used to go to class I at one point like I took class like I'm on scholarship at university Miami also

like there's a GPA requirement like all of my friends we're we're very like she's smart we're smart girl I never I never thought you guys were done yeah also say it. I did not think any of you were done. Because I always knew how hard Miami was to get into because I was like, I'll never apply there because I'll never get it. I also feel like people just kind of assume with posting videos on TikTok and whatnot, they're like, it's so easy. Anybody could do that. Like, it's actually not like that easy. It's like every day. And you really, yeah, and you have to be strategic with it and be smart

about it. And like, it's not just, it's really not coming from somebody who struggles with doing it. It's a fucking hard. Do you ever get tired of doing it? Like some days you wake up, you're like, I really don't feel like posting a video today. But at the same time, you kind of feel like you have to. I'd say it's more along the lines of like when I am in those situations. Like, of course, like I wake up and like I'll feel like shit or like the problem, it's not when I feel like shit. It's when I'm sad.

Like when I'm having like a sad day when I'm a little like cryy in a cryy mood, that's when it's harder to make videos. But most of the time, like, I really. put everything out there like every emotion everything like see my coochie like the whole tities the whole thing so i'm like honestly like if i'm a little sad having a bad day like i'll literally just put it out there yeah i'm like i'll like do my video i'm like i can not be in a shittier mood right now like i literally want to kill everything like if someone calls me again i'm gonna punch them in the face like i just put it out there yeah i'm like yeah and i think that's why people relate to you and i think that's probably the smart way to go about it when you're trying to like make it on

TikTok. You want people to feel like they're on FaceTime with you, which is I think a lot of the times how people feel. Have there been creators that you were like such a big fan of that now you're kind of becoming friends with or you're in contact with? Because I feel like we've seen, there's so many people that have blown up that we've been fans of. And then now you're like in the same universe as them. I feel like I never like really got into like I never was really a huge fan of anyone. I was never like upset. I feel like I just didn't. I don't know. Maybe I was weird. I just like I loved like the funny like little videos and like I liked them.

I was never like obsessed with like one singular person. But there were so many people like I watched their videos all the time and like they'd come up. And I was like, oh like there's someone cool and like now I know them now. Yeah, yeah. Like you recognize them. Oh yeah. Like chill and hang out. And I'm like, I loved you. Like I loved you like your own video or something. But yeah, everyone has been so. so amazing, so nice and like welcoming, which is like, I feel like lots of people don't think it's necessarily like the vibe and like this industry. People think it's like a mean place,

but like, I'm having a great time. I think everyone's so cool. Yeah. I think it depends on who you surround yourself with. I think there's probably great people and of course there's going to be mean people, but if you don't talk to them, then whatever, you can ignore them. Honestly, kill them with kindness. Absolutely. You know what I mean? Absolutely. And I love your videos where you like joke about your boyfriend or like it's like you're like I'm going to literally murder him or like the Valentine's Day one was so funny too

I was like when I'd be like if my boyfriend doesn't get me before I was like Jack you're listening it's like yeah this is whoever the woman who the person who like made the video that was like we don't want flowers anymore like you're nut bro you're literally a nut we want flowers

because if we don't get them it's going to be a huge problem yeah what can you imagine not getting flowers on Valentine's Like that would be insanity. You don't even want to know what I do. You don't even want to know. What's it like now that so many people who follow you are so invested in like your personal life and want to know about your dating life and your boyfriend and like how does he feel about? He doesn't have TikTok.

Yeah. That's the way to be. No, he's like, honestly, stay far away. What did you post? He's like, I can hear you from the other room. Like, what did you say about me? Nothing. Nothing.

I'm like, what are you talking about? But no, yeah, it's honestly been an adjustment for him. Like, Morton is just saying the way of, like, I'm traveling, like, all the time. And he's like, where are you going? Like, what are you doing? And I'm like, honestly, bro, like, I don't even know. Like, I'm a business woman. They're just sending me here and I'm just going to it.

I don't know. They told me I'm going on this podcast. I haven't heard of it. I don't know. I'm just showing up on the podcast. Like, literally. But I think, like, he has been really, really supportive. and like let me do my thing and like there's some things where he's like can you can we just like

not share that with the whole internet and I'm like maybe yeah I'll think about it yeah I was like we'll see how they want to know yeah does your family feel the same way too like I know you posted you were on vacation and over the like the holidays and it's like putting your family into all these things are they happy to be in all of it yeah I mean for the most part like I when I mean I grew up in the most like From Ohio. Yeah, like literally from Ohio. You're the oldest sibling? Middle.

Middle. Middle only girl. Yikes. Scorpio. Yikes. So is it boy girl, boy? Yeah. So I have a younger brother that goes to Boulder Still.

And then my older brother, God, I'm from Miami. But they're, like, for the most part. Like, my dad's a dentist. He's, like, so confused. He's like, you're what? You're making money doing what? Yeah. I'm like, dad, I swear to God, I'm not like a prostitute.

No, this is legit. This is legit. I'm like, dad, I'm going on a podcast, don't worry. But yeah. Quick trip to New York. I'll be back. Don't worry about it. But that's great.

I mean, because it's like sometimes people in your life, they are like, I really do not want to be. I don't want my stuff on the internet. They're like, they're here for it. There's like, you know, like they're, especially with family more of the line. Like, there is a line where, you know, my brothers are just waking up. Like, you remember there's a part when we were in Hawaii. And my brothers are like, can you like, shut the fuck? they're like stop with your little

saying that. No literally they were like leave me alone like don't say anything but it's almost in a funny way like yeah yeah yeah their family and that is always the funniest part too because your siblings are supposed to make fun of you like if you're filming yourself in the bathroom and you're like you expect your brother

or your sister in the other room to be like what the fuck are you doing? Get it girl! Yeah yeah who is that? I feel like it'd be weird if my brothers weren't bullying me about it. Exactly yeah because that's how you grew up yeah my little brother

I think he like blocked me on TikTok and he's like all my frat brothers keep sending your TikToks like please stop talking about me like I'm like sorry but build character it does it does build character exactly it's like you're you'll thank me you'll thank me later when this whole thing works out for me like just saying I'm like you're gonna be hit my line camera I'm just right yeah exactly exactly why were you with jojonas the other night joj Jonas stop it joj Jonas I was what are we quitting with joe Jonas guys. And Sophie Turner, where did that come from? It was just an event in Miami. Like, there's, what people don't understand, like, every single

day in Miami. There's something. There's something with, like, someone, like, yeah. And half the time, like, when we're hanging around, we're hanging around, like, the craziest people, like, a good amount of the time. And, like, we just don't bring, we don't bring it up. Like, we're, cool girls. Yeah, yeah. Unless it's Joe Jonas. Unless it's Joe Jonas. You're going to get a video. No, but that was like, um, that was for his. new drop of a song. He was dropping a song and they had this like really cool venue

and they were like hey, it was like part of the thing. They're like, hey, come and like let's do a TikTok with Joe Jonas. I did see a bunch of people like also when I woke up my free page was just like everybody making videos with Joe Jonas. I was like, what the hell was this? You really get out of here.

It was like the email was like, please come with a plan TikTok for Joe Jonas. No, literally it was like come with a plan TikTok and we're like, oh, like, can you do this? Can you do that? And I was like, mm-hmm. Like, you know me.

Like, I'm a very last-minute person. I was like, I want to see if I can, like, interview him because I'll see some weird shit. Like, that'd be funny. Yeah. And then it was really, really loud. I was like, what can I do with him? And I was like, gritty. It was perfect.

So that's what we did. Quick, easy. Quick, easy. Right to the point. I was like, Joel, will you wittily gwinnie with me right now? He was like, huh? He seemed like a lot of fun, though. Oh, no.

They were so nice. Like, like partiers. I think Joe and Sophie have a good time. Yeah, they just seem like they love to party. No, they get down. They're getting down. Yeah. It seems like that.

I feel like in the Miami events are like different than everything else. Yeah. We're, I'm a massive John's Brothers fan. So. Oh, yeah. I saw that and was like, if only I was in Miami. Yeah, living in Miami. Girl, what have invited you?

Like, call me up. Could have been you. Could have been made. Are you going to stay in Miami after you graduate? Yeah. I feel like that's like my home. Mm-hmm. Like, it's either that or Ohio.

So I think I'm going to stick in Miami You never thought about like L.A. or New York or any of those places. Like don't, I'm going to suggest don't come to New York City. Like, and that's not because we don't want you here. It's because I, it's miserable in the winter here. Like if you're going to come from Miami New York. She's from Ohio. No, I know.

But like, if you've just been in Miami for the past four years, don't revert back. No, exactly. And that's why I'm like. It's awful. Well, yeah, I was like trudging through like this month. You see me in my little pink Barbie suit. I was like, it's disgusting outside. Yeah.

I think I Just like Miami's like my place Like I have my older brother still in Miami right now Like that all my friends are there Like I just have such like a good group Knit of people there and I'm like I don't know I'm like I think like I think I'm like currently peaking Like I'm not even gonna lie

And like I just don't think I can like ever leave I'm gonna try to keep it out Exactly you know you're like I'm here I just want to stay I'm not gonna move like locations. I'm like we are moving and then. I love Miami. Out of college housing. Oh my God.

Yeah. You're going to get like a nice I do feel like too after like so many people in the last few years have moved to Miami and it's so popular right now that there's so many people living down there. It's like you get the same experience like you said there's so many events so many things going on like you don't have to be

in New York or LA like there's so much. And so many people are moving to Miami right now. So many people. I want to move to Miami. I want to move to Florida. You should move to Florida. If somebody else would move to Florida. I know. Well, you're not going to move to Miami. Close.

Not too far. There's so many places you can go in Florida. There are so close. I don't want to be directly in Miami, but I can visit once in a while. Yeah. Just in Florida in general, it's so warm and nice. Yeah, yeah.

Taxes thing is a real benefit. Yeah. It's really great. You wake up, you look outside of the sun is shining. Hey, believe me. I know. It's so real. You get that.

We have a deficiency right now. I hope you know that. We've been going to Florida. I've been going to Florida every two weeks because I can't stay. Yeah, I'm going. Our parents live down there. Like, we're, we believe in New York as fast as we can. It would be great.

We don't want to stay up here. If we were in Florida for like the whole winter and then we come back into Long Island, New York, like in the summer. You know, they're building us a new studio here. I know, I know. We got some nice things going. Unfortunately, logistically, it just wouldn't work even though we really would love to do that. But, okay, so for you, you know, you're doing all these big things. Like, can you, what's, what do you have coming up?

I'm sure there's stuff you're working on. There's a couple things. A little tease. Oh, I don't know. Maybe. She's like, am I going to get in trouble? There's nobody in this room telling me what I can. They're like, they're listening closely.

And then they're listening closely. And then they're going to yell at us and tell us to cut it out out. Oh, no. There's like a couple of different things that go along. Like, definitely more. DJing is coming up. You can definitely see more of that. A lot more traveling.

We have some really fun things for graduation that you'll see. We got whole squad graduating, so. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. It feels like a spring break. It feels like an episode of a TV show. I was going to say it's like the O.C. But it's college, not high school. Exactly.

We're really like romanticizing your life. I feel like you guys do it though. I feel like you guys romanticize your own lives. Oh yeah. Like we're about to go to Nashville for spring break. We have 30 of us in a house. 15 girls, 15 guys. Wow.

It's literally going to be a dumpster fire. That's so fun. That's so fun. Is your boyfriend in the same friend group of like all your guy friends there? So it's kind of we have like a bunch of different. So there's like fraternity. Yeah. We're like you're in a sorority.

Yeah. But like we're just kind of like we like I feel like university. see Miami Greek life, it's very much like, we're all just like one big. It's not like in Alabama or like Auburn where it's like you only hang out with the girls in a store. We have so many different people from so many different places. I feel like once you hit senior year, everybody always gets kind of like lax about. Yeah, it's like none of us give a fuck. Like whoever you vibe with, like you're going to hang out with. Yeah. Like none of us care. But yeah, that's kind of what we're doing. My boyfriend's actually younger than me. Cougar. Wow. I love that.

Scandalous. Scandalous. Good idea. My grandma always says... Good idea. My grandma always said marry younger. Really? My...

I have never dated anybody younger than me. I've only dated older guys until this one. You know, it really comes into play when you get older. A year. Okay. It feels like six. Yeah. I'm like you're graduating.

Yeah. You have a whole year left of this? Yeah. No, yeah. My grandma married somebody older and, you know, when he started to get old, she was like, what the fuck? Like, I'm young still, and he's old. So how much older, though?

Not eight, nine years. Oh, okay. That's like a big decade. Yeah, that's like a bigger jump. Yeah. But she always, she would grab me and she'd say, Francesca, go for the younger guy. I just can't. I just never, never.

I actually loved, I had a, I really liked to a younger guy. Not younger, but like a year. Like in high school, college. Like a nice little. Like the guy's a grade younger than me. I always liked better than the boys. my own brain. It's all, it's about the, what, supply and demand. I completely cut them off from my brain. I only saw older. I didn't even see the kids in my grade.

No. It was like, strictly like, it was just like only up. I never even looked below me. 1997. I was born in 1997. I know. I know. No go. Okay. So we'll wrap up, but I want to ask you because obviously you are doing all the makeup stuff. Everybody's watching you. And everybody loves recommendations. and they want to know what to get. What's your favorite, your go-to? Like, you can't live without makeup products. Oh, my God.

That's, like, everything. Definitely. I love hourglass concealer. Mm-hmm. I was using the Chanel bronzer, but now I love the Patrick Taugh bronzer. I used the Thrive Mascara, the Refi, refi, brawage.

Hey, we do ads for thrive on this podcast. You do ads for Thrive. Oh, you do? Yeah, on this podcast. That was good. Tell them, like, hit me up. Yeah, you don't love me. over here like I literally like you use I know I'm literally like being able to like peel off my eyelashes

yeah yeah yeah it comes out it comes off so easily which is nice yeah that's what I love I don't like scrub a do do do my yeah yeah yep yep but no yeah that they're I don't know I use different products literally every single day because I'm like I got to try out everything yeah let people know how it it I do that too but I don't know why it's just like I open my drawer and I'll be like I use that yesterday I'm going to use something else I am so attached to the problem that I use every single day. I do not change it ever. I probably do something different every day. Different order. I'll be like doing stuff and I'm like that's just like not how I do my makeup. I'll change it like after like a couple years but like I've been on a good

couple years span now using the same exact products. And you you guys both are great. I have I have trust issues with products and I also want to notice. You have sensitive skin when you try new stuff sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes I break out. Sometimes I get a little rash. I also want to I'm not like, I'm not looking for guys like 10 years older. Yeah. Like I said older guys like, you know, like a couple years. Like I'm not going. Your boyfriend is a few years.

Yeah, my boyfriend is three years older than me. And I'm not going like more than that. You know what I mean? Like I'm not like looking for 10 years old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, but guys are 10 years old are kind of hard. Depends. Yeah.

Really depends. A certain age. I'm like, I don't even want to say it. I know. No, no. It's all right. I've said it before. We don't.

Just like, I just feel like things changed. What do you mean? Down there? Yeah, like, like, don't know. Like, I'm just like, you know, you ever wonder like what it's like? No, no. But really old. All right.

Okay, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like 50 years old, like 50. 50. No, no. I don't even want to be thinking about 50 year old. No, no. That's what I'm saying I couldn't, like, I don't understand what girls like our age date

50 year olds and I'm just like what how, like what's going on down there? Is it like the same? You know, does it age as well as the man? You know what? Why don't you ask your dad? Ew. He'll tell you. I know, he probably would.

Ew. That's so gross. Oh, my God. Okay. He's got me thinking about like, I know. Sorry, I took everybody down in a bag. You did.

You took me down a path where now I'm like, now I feel uncomfortable. I really would love to know. Well, there's only a few ways to find out. I just, but like the last person on asked. I might like just Google that. True. Because it is something I've thought about before.

Like, does it, you know? Because they get older. Can you Google that? They get older and gray up top, you know, like from this up. So like this from here down, does the same thing? But does everybody? Everybody does. Like armpit hair, does that change too?

Right. Does ladies do too sometimes? Does it turn gray down there? Yeah. It does. Vigina hair turns gray? Yeah. I've never even thought about that until now.

Yeah. That's crazy. I'm sorry. I never, I'm sorry. I never even thought about that until now. I apologize. It's like kind of freaking me out. I know.

Same. I was fine when getting older until I just realized that my vagina got my turn. Everyone in this room is far too young to be, to be thinking about this. Especially Zandra. Do people die? I don't know. I'm sorry. I feel like that could be a thing.

That sounds awful. It's like beer dye. Just shave it all. Yeah, exactly. Or laser. Yeah. Or laser. Guys, so many.

So many solutions, everyone. I apologize for bringing it there. Okay, everybody. Thank you, Zandra. for joining us. What a way for her first podcast to go. And I'm like, bye guys. We started like being so serious and it ended at, yeah, I apologize. Pupic hair. I just, it never hit me until this exact moment and now it's something that I'm going to think about for a little bit. Oh, man. Okay. And I hope you do too. Yeah. Sandron, thank you for coming. Thank you for coming in. We're honored to be

your first podcast. People are going to, I think, be very excited. Yes, they will be. To, to listen to this and see this. And we're excited to see what you got coming up. And, you know, I want to come to a DJ show. Have fun. Come to my graduation, bro. Yeah. Have fun in Nashville. We're going to be knock on the door in Nashville for spring break.

Hey. She's going to be like, I don't remember you guys. She's going to do 50 podcasts by this. Olds. Stop calling us old. We're not older than you. How old are you guys? I'm 25.

I'm 28. It's not old. Wait, I would like not think you guys. Well, guys, I'm 22. Yeah, like, I'm sorry. Like, that's not that crazy of a difference. You're like not. I'm talking about myself.

You're not old though. You've been saying. it a lot lately. Going to spring break? Come to spring break. Why don't? Yeah. I feel like nobody's going to point you out and go she's 28.

No, they probably wouldn't. I get carded all the time still. You're like, I'm young. Every time I'm like, sure, here's my ID soon. All right. We're now we're rambling. Thank you, Zandra. It's so much fun.

And everyone follows Zandra if you don't already. I guess I can't believe that. You know, shameless plug, but TikTok and Instagram and everything. Is your Instagram is the same as TikTok or are they different names? Zandrapole. Zandra pole. Zandra pole.

P-O-H-L. There you go. X. X. X. X-Pol. Thank you. I'll see you guys. That's kind of fun. Podcasts are great.

You never know where it could go. All right. That wraps up. Today's episode of Chicks in the Office. If you're listening in the morning, make sure you tune into the YouTube live stream where you can watch it later on. Subscribe on YouTube. guys and we'll talk to you on Friday.