Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 107 - The Green Stone Part 1 Ft. Mikel Reparaz

Episode Date: June 30, 2021

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joining my two wonderful L.A. brothers, Alex and Jesse. Hello, Mike, I'm going to try and say your name right. Raparez? That's what I want to say. Raparez is fine. Yeah, it's fantastic. Technically, it's Raparath, but even I have trouble saying that. So, it's fine. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, no, I can do the tongue roll, but not that. You try. You like put in a solid effort there.

That's impressive. Come on, he's a guest in the podcast. I got to get at least a minimum percentage effort. Appreciate it. I appreciate it. Even when Crendor was here, I tried a little bit. I had to. Yeah. So, what's up? Why didn't the podcast, man? Well, I'm visiting you guys from Vigigame Apocalypse,

which is my regular show on the Lasertime Network, lasertimepodcast.com. So, that's my plug out of the way. Every Friday, we talk about Vigigames. But anyway, I'm delighted to be here. This seems like a really cool show. A very chill. Oh, you've made a mistake. I'm so, so sorry.

Who conned you into this? Do you owe us anything? Is there like Alex? Yeah, Alex. What do you have over him? It'll be fun. Meanwhile, he leaves traumatized wondering what he even got into. So, the question that we always ask guests at the top, because, you know, there's sort of

like a stigma around talking about this stuff sometimes with people outside of your social circle. So, before we get into this, what is your... We are all very well established amongst our audience of like what level of belief we have. But what is your experience with the paranormal? What are your thoughts on the paranormal I'm interested to know? I don't have a lot of direct experience with the paranormal.

You know, some fairly pedestrian stuff, sleep paralysis, hallucinations, things like that. One time when I was five, I was convinced I saw a six foot tall grasshopper walking erect on the lawn of a family friend during a dinner party. But nobody else saw it, so I'm pretty sure that was just in my imagination. You know, there are insectoid aliens around that size

that supposedly exist, so maybe I'm just saying... I want you to know that I often walk erect on the lawn at my family dinner parties as well. So... Maybe not around 5 p.m. I don't believe either of those things. I mean, I do have... There are some family stories that have been passed down to me.

The one that I always think of was... So my great-grandmother, when my... My great-aunt is the oldest of several sisters, and when she was just a little girl and an only child at the time, she got very sick with some sort of bad cough, flu, something like that. And my great-grandmother swears that she woke up

to hear her coughing and saw a figure standing over the foot of the bed, just like somebody draped in the black sheet just standing there. And so she kicked out at it, and it just glided soundlessly into the wall and disappeared, and the wall that it hit was the room adjoining my great-aunt's...

Adjoining my great-aunt's room. And so she started crying, and my great-grandmother runs in there, and she's sitting up awake and saying, Mommy, why did you come in here and scare me wearing that black robe? Oh, my God. First of all, I love that that story has

or be violent toward whatever that was. I mean, it's the first story I've heard where they were like, Fuck this ghost. This is the most relatable ghost story I've ever heard. I said, look, I don't believe, but I want to know why people don't fight ghosts more often, and this, I get. I believe, I finally believe one.

This is it. I was like, oh, hell no, ghost. Get away from my baby. I grew up thinking about that, and then heard from my uncle, like, no, no, no, no. The ghost was coming out of her room, and I was like, oh, well, okay. No, it changes everything.

What are you talking about? Never mind, it's fake again. We almost had you, Jesse. So are you a Mulder or a Scully? I'm more of a Scully than a Mulder. I think I want to believe, but I haven't seen any evidence that makes me believe. I'm rationally minded, man.

I like that. But, you know, when I'm lying awake at 4 a.m. in a strange house, of course, I believe in ghosts. Yeah, exactly. When I'm lying awake at 4 a.m., I like to be thinking about Patreon.com. Oh, my God. Where we're inching ever closer

to our goal of $10,000, in which Jesse not only will believe in ghosts, but we will force him by doing some sort of crazy television-style lockdown is what it's building up to be at this point. Is somebody out there right now on Twitter looking for YouTube personalities, Twitch personalities to go record?

They want to know, like, an AMC show. I want to let AMC know we are not the three. I'm going to let them know right now. We are not the three. Yeah. It'll be one of those forgotten pilots that's, like, on YouTube. That's, like, one of the greatest things ever

that never got made, because those three guys were geniuses. You know what I mean? But, yeah, please go to our Patreon. Please support us. And today, that's not only the Patreon I'm supporting. I'm also talking about an amazing thing that's happening in Los Angeles the last week of October.

Jesse, take it away. Oh, wait, no, I'm talking about it, you mean? Yeah. Hey, did you know that if you want to get some super spooky fun time activities in your life, and, like, I don't know, travel to LA at the end of October, the last week, these, I was about to say three,

and, I mean, like, you know, it could be three. I don't know. But my two lovely co-hosts and I, and who knows what other special guests I don't even know are hosting. We haven't, we have not planned it yet. We have not. I'm just starting thinking about what kind of show

we want to put on. We are doing a live show in LA, October 26th, just in time for Halloween. So come out and hang out with us. It's going to be crazy. There will be their VIP tickets, I believe, still available. And you can get crazy with it and come hang with us and we'll do Q&A stuff.

And there are special items that you can get from that. But also, there might still be, like, a few two-day tickets. I think we opened up a few left, but they sold out real quick. But also, at the same time, it's a two-day event with the other weird thing we do, which is Scary Game Squad. And so that's the 28th. So it's two days. Come out to LA for, like, a week.

And come hang. It's just like Harry Potter, Turn Off the Dark. What is that called? It is literally Harry Potter, Turn Off the Dark, where Harry Potter, Harry Potter story, meets Bono, and they go on wildly ventures together. It's the exact same thing, except featuring the Fresno Nightcrawlers.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You can get your tickets right now at chilluminatipod.com. Yes. OK, for now, for that guy in the comments who says the real episode starts here, the real episode starts here at about 7.45.

So that's really good. In the comments. Today, I am so excited, you guys. I don't usually do two episodes in a row. You don't? Yeah. It's a treat. But it has been such a great...

I have been reading the weirdest books. And this one, it's spun right out of the other one that we did just a couple of weeks ago. I'm just going to start, you guys, with this little theatrical piece. Wait, time out. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Have we mentioned why we have a guest?

Why we have a guest? Because we like Michael and we want him to be here, and we love his show, and it's a fun... Thank you. He's hanging with us for the day, Jesse. I mean, okay. I just thought there was going to be like... And then I fought an alien.

I wish. We're not going to be sick though. This story relates to me in a way that... But I realized after we had Crendor on, none of that matters anymore. No, I was going to be like, remember Crendor or Crendor? No, you're right.

You're totally right. I mean, you're totally right. I just assumed, like, I don't know, maybe this is like, we're going to talk about gnomes or like some type of faith, but I don't know. Well, I'll put it this way. I gave him the choice of which episode he wanted to come on, and one of them was a weird, like, sexual Bigfoot episode.

And the other one, and it involves aliens. And the other one was this one. And I don't blame him, to be honest. Honestly, you did more than I did for Crendor. I said, Crendor, just show up. The sexual Bigfoot was my band in high school. I kind of feel like that's behind me. It's just four guys that look like us.

I wish you guys could see our Zoom call right now. It's literally like, if the Beatles were all just a bunch of podcasts, we look the same. We're like the same guy four times. Just a stereotypical podcaster here. All podcasters is coming in real strong right now. It's like a created character, just like list of guys that got made on the same game engine.

This really is the four different Caucasian white men that you can choose in any game. You jump it, you gotta add a little bounce when you jump into yourself. Zoom in, start customizing a little bit. But yeah, I want to do a little intro, the video. There's like a book and a video. This is one of those delicious ones that's like a guy

beats the drum of this story that happened to him all the time and he stilled the hustles for it, even though it happened a long time ago. I guess it wasn't COVID because it came out in January, but there was a video. And the video started like this. And I just thought it was so great that I'm going to do it too. Nice.

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Is this a video or is this someone talking? This is just me interpreting that same idea because I'm a good writer. Wait, what? I'm good. I'm solid. So is it the video you're talking about or the scenario? Just follow me down this little path. I'm trying.

Just let me do my little, like, have you ever seen Mystery Lodge? Let me do that for you. All right, here we go. The story starts with a grim future. The year is 1980. Rough year. The vision involves an old empty house, Victorian and abandoned with crumbling walls and creaking floors filled with

dust and cracks and creaks and acrid smells. But it wasn't always this way. In fact, this dilapidation wasn't natural at all. And the forces at work diminishing and decaying this house are far worse than time and neglect. These dark forces did the work those would do over years in mere weeks. And this house doesn't stand abandoned by choice. The people who were there were forced out,

ran off by forces beyond their understanding from beyond the veil at the intersection of time, mind and space. How dare you? What did you think of that? Are you guys there? Yeah, we're there. That was the most nothing ever said in the history of anything. You were like, and in the darkness, the void stared back.

And there they were. You didn't see the house? My scary British house? You should know this by now. I don't visualize anything mentally. So when you said it's a scary old house, I was like, OK, and? I always forget. He says that a lot.

This is an experiment for all of us. When I say picture an apple in your head, what do you get? We'll start with Jesse. Jesse, can you see anything? Is it just blank? Yeah. All right. So when you say picture an apple in my head, what I see is the light shining

in my eyeballs. And then I hear your voice and darkness. I don't. And that was me trying to picture an apple in my head. I can't do it. Are you Alex? I'm like Pixar in there. I'm doing.

Me too. Yeah. I can see like the mist like creeping in from the cabin window while the apple sits on an oaken table with two wooden odds. It's beautiful. Are you an apple guy or a void guy, Michael? I'm an apple guy. I envisioned a perfect Granny Smith apple.

And then when you said apple in my head, I imagined it literally inside of my head, possibly in front of my face like that Magritte painting. But I like that. It's like a surrealist thing. I cannot do that. I have a non-believer. I mean, look, if I can't, the problem is like, I know what an apple looks like. I know what a table looks like.

I don't need to visualize it because I already know what it is. So my mind is categorized and like catalogued away. I'm like, I got that. I'm not worried. And I'm moving on. I'm moving on to things. Well, take it from me. I know you know what an old dilapidated Victorian house is.

And now just imagine it has secrets. And I think I've done for you the best I can. The house has secrets. The people who live there. You know what? I'm just going to shut up. All right. I'm just going to be quiet.

Listen. After I did the two-parter about the guy communicating with the past through his computer. You guys remember that one from a couple of weeks ago? Classic or classic? I started to look for other like wild books, like I said, firsthand. It's like not like the Warrens where it's like clearly like hustlers going down the line. This is like their story. This is their thing that happened to them.

This thing was heavily covered by the press. This is like a real thing, like up to a point. And that's what I love about this. And so, you know, you say a real thing up to a point. Like, I'm already like, I don't know. You'll see what I mean. You'll see what I mean. Like at some point, you're going to have to like buy into the fact that, you know, like,

you know what? I'm bought into your storytelling every, every time. That's not an issue. I'm just going to sit idly by and wait to poo poo all of this. All right. Well, yeah, I understand. I understand. Yes.

Yeah. So after I looked, this was the first one that I, that I stumbled on because I like the title. It's called the vertical plane, which I thought was a sick title, even though it didn't really have that much to do with it. But this one, this is everything to do with it. Ladies and gentlemen, this is the story of the green stone. Okay.

In the summer of 1979, things were going rather swimmingly down at number 19 Oaks Crescent in Wolverhampton, an old Victorian building, which at the time was the headquarters of a group called para search, which specialized in, and this is going to blow your mind, paranormal research. Wow. Yeah. At the time, they were publishing a monthly magazine about all that cool stuff called strange phenomena and Graham Phillips, the guy who is our guy, he wrote the book.

He made the video. He's like still talking about it. The video has like 3.5 K views on YouTube. He was the editor of strange phenomena. That summer, Graham and Graham and para searches lead researcher Andy Collins were looking into an alleged secret society that dated all the way back to the 1600s, which was called the Rosa Crucians. So here's the deal with this and follow me here because this part actually diverges a

little bit from the way Phillips presents it in his book, which is like fully truth. I'm not interested in just entertaining a guy who's saying wrong facts. So I just want to make a little distinction first and then I'll get into what happened with Graham. Shout outs to the article, Shadow in the Shadows by James Ellis at Newsweek, which is a pretty reputable publication. So apparently in 1572 and 1604, 32 years apart, new objects appeared in space and everybody who saw them thought of them as like new stars, like DLC to like certain constellations.

Like there was like the constellation Cygnus, which is the Swan and Serpentarius, who's the serpent bearer. And literally these things like showed up as like new stars in those constellations. So people were like, that is insane because they can see it with their actual eyes. And in reality, scientists think it was probably just a couple of fucking supernovas. But that's like rare enough that I don't think we've seen anything close to that with our eyes since. And the fact that this happened twice in like less than 50 years is really crazy.

And literally when they happen for weeks, like outshine everything else in the sky, super bright stars, according to them. So people looking up and thinking about this is like the most important thing that's happening all over Europe and especially people who are like interested in the sciences and like what's up there. And so people like this, they took that as a sign of like the onset of new knowledge, religious tolerance, free thought, enlightenment, all this type of stuff, kind of like how if you'd imagine like how like mods or hippies or punks kind of just like organically pop

up in a culture and then they're just like a thing for a while. Same thing with the Rosa Crucians. It was like we saw these stars were like inspired by that. It's kind of cool in a hippie way, if you think about it. But they also, in addition to that true stuff that happened, they also have like lore that goes along with it about this German doctor at the turn of the century of the 15th century called Christian Rosencruz, who traveled towards Jerusalem and got all this like wisdom and information from all these sages and like luminaries and like wizards or whatever, like

just spiritual geniuses and scientists as he travels through the Middle East on his way to Jerusalem and he gets all this information and he comes back to Germany and he shares it with his like small brotherhood of guys who become the first of these Rosa Crucians. The idea was that members of this brotherhood and the people that came after them have access to all these like forbidden mystical secrets and it sparked this new age of geniuses or whatever behind the scenes, yada, yada, yada. But like, as you know, like the Middle East is not like an insane mystery to us now. Like there's not like it's not like Wakanda or something over in the Middle East right now.

You know, it's like, you know, we comprehend the secrets of the Middle East now. So that idea is already like kind of weakened by that. But if you ask like actual historians, you know, other than saying, you know, people were just kind of probably a little racist about the Middle East and just being like, who knows what's in there? You know, like, they will tell you that actually, yeah, what's that? So that's exactly like Indiana Jones movies. Yes, exactly.

And they will tell you actually, they'll tell you that it's like a clever story that people used to use to spread the idea because you tell the story and it sort of like makes it into a thing. It like makes it into a meme kind of so people can kind of like absorb the whole idea to promote like progressive science, spirituality, because at the time in the like sixteenth and seventeenth century, Europe was getting like, it was basically like a Game of Thrones church going down in Europe at the time. And like the society itself never existed.

This German guy probably didn't exist. And even in the books themselves, there's like parts that are like like in the manifestos, like the primary source ones, they'll literally just be like, yo, this is a parable, you dumbass, don't believe this directly. Like this is just something that we're saying to like help you understand. So like it's probably not a real secret society, even though like all these other secret societies like the masons, the Freemasons, like they rolled with this vibe like super hard.

They all talk about like ancient wisdom. There is like a French Rosicrucian secret society that started in like the 1800s. And they're like, this goes back to the teachings of ancient Egypt or some shit. But like that's like not the same as this. This would happen in the sixteenth century and the seventeenth century. So don't worry about it too much. However, this does not mean that there weren't Rosicrucian like thinkers and people doing Rosicrucian thinking, because it was

like a cultural movement. And there were a hell of a lot of people like that, like, for example, Francis Bacon, who's someone that you may have heard of in the future when I do my Who the Fuck Was William Shakespeare episode? Eventually, or John D. Who I think we talked about in the Voynich manuscript episode from a while ago. But like I say, cultural movement, not a secret society, but there were people who were like in the same way that you could be like,

I'm a punk, dude, you could like you could be a Rosicrucian. You can like, yeah. Yeah. So anyway, back to Graham and Andy from ParaSearch. It all starts when completely unrelated to anything having to do the Rosicrucians. Graham agrees to be part of this like weird experiment. And if you're trying to like imagine what this place is like, you know, the scene in Ghostbusters where Bill Murray is like doing that like ESP thing and he's like kind of flirting with the girl that he's testing?

Like, yeah, they were doing shit like that all the time, just like weird sort of like out of the box, weird off the wall experiments that like just to see what's up beyond the realms of the unknown or whatever. Right. It's like amateur science with like a little bit of mysticism thrown in. And so he agrees to be part of this weird like experiment where he lets himself be hypnotized in order to study ESP to see if somehow ESP can be effective when you are induced into hypnosis. And even though it was completely unrelated, like I said,

as soon as he's hypnotized, he starts like word vomiting all this like crazy stuff that happened with the Rosicrucians in the year 1605. He just starts like talking about all this stuff. And even though he doesn't he's not an expert, he doesn't know anything about this. He just starts like talking all this stuff. And to be clear, that's not actually that bizarre of a thing to happen on its own. It's like how people criticize the way Scientology regresses people into these like crazy past lives

during that weird like auditing stuff that they do. Apparently, when you're hypnotized, just like recounting stream of consciousness fantasy that you think is your memories is like a thing. And we talk a little bit about it in the Betty and Barney Hill duo episode as well, like how careful it does have to be because influencing, you know, your own memories or dreams or whatever, when you're under that hypnosis can spoil everything because you're just in such a vulnerable, believable state, a lot of things you're told you'll immediately believe are real.

Yeah, it's kind of like a scientific thing that sort of explains a lot of this. Like I was in a trance and I just started like saying stuff. Yeah. And it's also apparently according to Graham, it's also super common to have like zero memory of what you were saying after you come out of the hypnosis. And that's exactly what happened with all the Rosicrucian 1605 stuff, he said. But basically, he said that there was this sort of like alliance or brotherhood that had formed between certain English

like free thinking Rosicrucians who are one sort of like. You know, anti establishment group that's like not super loved by the state. And they're unlikely allies, the oppressed English Catholics, which I'm not going to get into the specifics of why there was a schism in the church exactly. But, you know, there was a lot of different ways of thinking about Christianity and England at the time. And the Catholics were kind of like not the winners.

And so they were according to this like hypnosis vision that was probably, you know, just kind of coming out of the ether. He was saying that they had come together into an actual secret society. And like I say, I'm getting into some deep speculation here. And remember, as far as you know, this is hypnosis, grain of salt, good to go. It's a great place for the story to start, though. So I'm going to say it anyway. He says there's this cross philosophical secret society.

It's founded by the occultist and astrologer, John Dee, who I was just talking about a second ago, I think he was in the Voynich manuscript. He's like a Alistair Crowley kind of guy from before Alistair Crowley by a couple hundred years. He's just like this guy who's like, look at Edgelord talking about demons and seraphim and hiding shit in poetry and just like just doing all kinds of crazy wizard shit that's like he's like kind of making up and kind of just like cribbing from notes.

Right. Yeah. Well, he's he's depicted a lot as like Queen Elizabeth's personal sorcerer, like that he had some sort of close tie to her. Yeah, exactly. He's like a like a dark Jedi of the English, like it's crazy. But the idea was that they were meeting together and they were like it was like almost like a support group, but also was kind of like an intellectual thing where they were like kind of like anti government.

Again, completely speculation and weirdly, but weirdly in the video that he made about this, Graham also says that just recently at Cannon's Ashby House, a secret room was uncovered where this group actually met. And there's like footage of it, like in the in the video. And I this could like based on that, this is a picture of it. I'm going to drop it into the Twitter DMs right now so you guys can see it. You guys can kind of let the people know what it looks like. As usual, if you guys want to bug me on the Internet,

I will make a Reddit post about it for people who want to see. But this apparently was that room. Wow. Newly discovered in a in a in the Cannon's Ashby House. And pretty cool. Cool idea that there's like a hidden room in a house. For those that are listening, it just kind of looks like a dining room. Yeah. With shelves that have plates and madam, the least cool secret room you've ever seen. Yeah, it was lit by, you know, the dark by candlelight.

You know, it's kind of it's exactly what you would imagine. It looks like a Victorian dining room. Yeah, it's a house of arms over the walls. Exactly. Yeah. It even has the walls with like the plates on them like your grandmother had. And yeah, this is not threatening in any way. Fair enough, fair enough. But it's a cool idea that they're they're meeting in this like hidden, unrevealed room.

But if you can see in the picture, there's like these like sort of like these grids on the wall of these painted things. And apparently what those are are actually like heraldic crests for all the members that met in the room. And according to Phillips, all these kind of notable people like, for example, Sir Walter Raleigh, another like free thinking statesman type guy who we mentioned on the show before, and also Robert Catesby, who is a like notorious political activist for the Catholic Church.

One was a Catholic, one was like a more Rosicrucian guy. Both were known to be in this Secret Society, according to just Graham Phillips. I think probably the brunt of what he was saying they did in this club was just kind of like, like I said, being like a support group of each other, figuring it out, getting, doing drugs or whatever they do, kissing each other in the dark or whatever. But also key to the story, key to the story. Also, aside from all the normal secret

side of something that they were doing, he also said that a sacred supernatural relic, which was meant to be in their possession. He said he said they have this relic and that at one point in time, it was owned by Mary Queen of Scots. If someone you love is struggling with their mental health, you don't have to struggle alone. Call or text 988 to get resources and support from trained crisis counselors who can help you help them.

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In the wake of this like crazy affair where she was like with this other guy and her husband was like found in their house dead and the house was burned down, all this stuff. And but she was Catholic. And then she ends up in England and a bunch of the Catholics in England were kind of like behind her as the leader, as the true Queen of England, because her cousin was Queen Elizabeth I. And so they were kind of like, you're the real Queen and you're the evil Queen. And eventually, in like 1586,

she was beheaded because allegedly she plotted to kill Queen Elizabeth and take her place. But who knows, could just be that she was becoming tiresome. No one knows. I don't know. Actually, if anyone knows, I don't know anything about Mary Queen of Scots. I did a minor amount of research to give you some context for this episode. The tutors were big fans of beheading. I'll say that.

Yes, and more. And anyway, 1586 is when she died. But in 1605, a little event comes along that we all probably have heard of at least a little bit called the gunpowder plot, in which, and this part is true, a bunch of Catholics planned to assassinate King James I by blowing up the House of Lords on a very important day. And if you've seen V for Vendetta, you probably remember the little rhyme about the 5th of November,

but I think I've forgotten it. But I don't know what you're referring to. Me neither. I forgot. No, remember, remember. Verily. Yeah. Remember, remember. It's Hugo Weaving and V for Vendetta. Yeah. Right. And in the end, the way that that gunpowder plot shook out

was rather than like literally the House of Lords crumbling. An anonymous letter tipped off the authorities. They found Guy Fox at the House of Lords with thirty six barrels of gunpowder. It would have it would have literally if it if it had blown up, it would have leveled the building. It would have been like, boom, the monarchy is gone. Like it would have been crazy. But it's rolling these barrels into the basement.

Like, yeah, yeah, exactly. It was like, Frank, get him in the basement, man. One at a time. Let's go. We got some exploding to do in five hours. It was a legitimate try by some very influential people, right? And Guy Fox gets all the zeitgeist's love today in the culture because of his mask and all that. But really, the ringleader of the whole thing

was none other than Robert Catesby, the Catholic activist who, according to Phillips, was in this like rosy Catholic fusion dance secret society. And Graham, back to made up town, Graham said that the whole thing was actually not just Catholics, but really more of like a collab. And that one of the main guys that never was implicated, but was like totally in their dirty hands was Sir Walter Raleigh.

And obviously, as anyone proven to be a part of the plot was sense to be hanged, drawn and quartered, which you've probably heard of before. But in case you don't know, literally means they would drag you behind a horse to your hanging, hang you, chop off your penis, slice open your guts, chop your head off, and then cut your body into four pieces and hang you up on a wall for people to be like.

Yeah, he was what a dummy. They usually take each piece to one of the four corners of the Empire or whatever, just be like, don't mess with us. Yeah, this is Sir Walter Raleigh's dick. Watch out. No, you know what? Didn't he had a he had a rough time, that guy. Yeah, so they were people.

So at this point, according to this version of the story, obviously, people were probably trying to distance themselves from Catesby and Raleigh and John Dee's club that he was running with them. And just as things were starting to pop off, the Secret Alliance was over. And they just, you know. But going back to that hidden item that he was talking about, here's what he said happened.

As I mentioned before, Mary Queen of Scots was beheaded in 1586. But by 1605, people were really trying to have her like canonized. And they were saying that like some of her items that she had were like mystical relics, because she was kind of like this folk hero. So Queen Elizabeth's chief minister, Francis Walsingham, like takes all that shit and like destroys it so that people are like, who's Mary Queen of Scots? We have literally no written record of her anymore. No.

It's crazy how in the Middle Ages, like people were just super willing to just burn their own history. Yeah, lost to time. Just gone like that. And we will never know. Yeah, nuts. They're gone. Bye. Yeah. And so when that happened,

whether he stole it or somehow it was given to him as a gift or something by 1605, apparently this item was in the hands of Robert Catesby. But according to hypnotized Graham, once the gunpowder plot went tits up and everybody was on the run, he took that item, gave it to a woman called Gertrude Winter, Wintour, who was married to one of the plotters. She kept it overnight at a place that Graham said was called Huntington Court and then said she passed it on to another Catholic member

of the Rosie Catholic Society to a guy that he said was called Humphrey Packington, which sounds like a fake name for sure. Who then free packing who then took that, hid it away in a secret location where apparently for 400 years, it has just. Remained. Never found. Well, luckily for all of us and honestly, for anybody who wants to make like a dope British DaVinci code knockoff,

Packington was said to have left a series of clues to the stone's location. Of course. Around a place called Harvington Hall, the old Tudor house where he lived near Kidderminster. Is that a place? Sure. It's spelled. It's spelled like I'm supposed to pronounce it. Kidderminster, Kidderminster.

I think it's Kidderminster. I don't know for sure. It is in the Midlands and that is the best that I can tell you. Someone will let us know. Yeah, I'm sure they will. But yeah, so he said all that shit, some crazy shit that there's clues at Harvington Hall and when he woke up from the trance, he had no memory of Gertrude Winter or Huntington Court or Humphrey Packington.

But when they went to the library to look that shit up, turns out all those things were real, real places. Huntington Hall was real Humphrey Packington is a real guy who really did own Harvington Hall at the time of the gunpowder plot. Everything was there except for. The missing Mary Queen of Scots artifact. Right. And now we are back where I started, where these two guys were researching Rosicrucians because this of this crazy hypnosis thing

that happened at ParaSearch and they were well enough. Convinced by it, but they were kind of like, should we act on this? We don't know. Is there anything here? There's no record of this. But suddenly things got really strange at ParaSearch. And even though they hadn't told anybody what Graham had said under hypnosis yet, other researchers at ParaSearch, all the type of people who would certainly be open to any sort of cosmic communication all began to be

I have these like weird experiences. So first here's a quote from 1981 by Terry Shotton, another researcher from ParaSearch at the time about something Phillips describes as psychic impressions. This is this is one for Mathis to read. OK, I give it to you. Tweeter or Zoom? Tweeter.

We tweeter. All right, as soon as it here it is. During the many years of research, one of the people we'd investigated who had proved to be a very good psychic was a lady by the name of Miss Penny. Miss Penny Blackwell, one evening, I got a phone call from Penny, asking if I would go down to see her as soon as possible. I got down to pennies about an hour later and she took out a tape and explained that for the very first time she decided to tape herself in a trance.

She played the tape and on the tape, she, first of all, starts to talk in quite a normal voice, but suddenly her voice changes and it starts to talk about ParaSearch and the people involved with ParaSearch and a project we were about to embark on and that it would have quite major repercussions in the future. This was quite strange to me because I didn't have a clue what she was talking about. It just seemed to be absolutely ridiculous. I gave no more thought to it directly until the following day. I then got a phone call from Alan.

OK, and the Alan that he's talking about is actually Alan Beard, who was another researcher with no knowledge of Graham's alternate history that he was talking about. It was just like another guy at the at the foundation who just out of the blue called. This is for Michael to read and drop that in the tweeter. OK. And while I'm speaking to him, is that the right place to start?

Correct. And while I'm speaking to him quite unexpectedly, I had the impression of vision, if you like, of a white object floating through space towards me. It kept on coming towards me and shrink in size. This was something strange because I'd never had something like this happen to me before images or impressions. It came totally out of the blue. The final impression I had of it was that it was coming towards me,

shrinking in size. The smallest it was was when it stopped in front of me. And it was a size and impression of a green stone mounted on an old silver ring. Oh, he's going to become a green light. As his first check is like, hey, I'm having a vision that something's coming your way that's going to change everyone's life. And your whole pair in your whole pair of research foundation, look out for it.

These other guys like there's this green stone. And now Graham and Andy are like fucking zoned in on this because they're like, is this all the same object that we're all thinking about? It's the fucking time stone, dude. Like maybe the stone is the relic. And now maybe it's calling to them because it wants to be found, right? So suddenly they're on a clue hunt at Harvington Hall, the place where they were told to go through this hypnosis alternate history.

And they were amazed to discover that in truth, for real, recently, a renovation had revealed a hidden mural in one of the upstairs corridors of Harvington Hall from the days of Humphrey Packington and the gunpowder plot. And even more enticing than that, it actually like the people that found it, the like archaeologists or whatever were saying that it purposefully was covered up with wood paneling since the early 1600s.

So they go there and out of nowhere, this is a real thing. This mural that they find is called The Nine Worthies. Depicts historic figures from history, depicts nine of them. Like I forget who it is. It's like Alexander the Great and shit like that. I can't remember exactly. It's like a bunch of big, huge, like, you know, mythical figures.

And in the center, the main image that they're focusing on as they're looking through the clues is this huge image in the center of like this weirdly young King Arthur. It's like he's he's like really small and he's wielding like a giant Excalibur that's like way too much for his like toddler frame. I have an image of it. I'll drop it into the tweeter so you guys can see this mural.

There it goes. And yeah, you can see it's kind of like it looks exactly like a mural would look hidden behind wood in a in an old house for 400 years. But yeah, that this is the picture of of Arthur with Excalibur and a group of knights are on a hill behind him. And I think there might be more to the picture than this. But this is this is that it's Arthur in the foreground. He's quite large.

The soldiers are a bit farther back in the distance on a hill. Are we sure it's not a bunch of soldiers flinging from a giant baby with a sword? That's kind of I'm kind of on my face here. A lot more like that than what I said, for real. The baby, he looks like one of those precious, like holy babies that you see that's like kind of like a little man that looks like a baby. But he's like a little chubby for some reason. Yeah, you just look like a dark soul box.

Yeah, dead ass. But yeah, so they're looking at this thing. There's Arthur, there's these knights on this hill, and they figure out nearby 25 miles away, according to a quick Apple Maps search. There was a real place called Knights Hill, which is right next to two small lakes separated by a tiny footbridge, which actually was there in the 1600s and was known locally as wait for it. It was known as Arthur's Bridge.

So we got Arthur's Bridge. We got Knights Hill. It's from the time of the gunpowder plot. Obviously, these dudes are jacked to pounce on that hunch. And it's just around that time that Paris. Can I ask a question just like before you continue? So this was a place known as Arthur's Hill. Like, yeah, no, Knight Hill is the name of the of the hill.

Real Hill. And then the bridge is Arthur's Bridge. OK, all right. Yeah, I'm just trying to like put together how I'm going to rip this apart. Please continue. So obviously, these dudes are jacked to pounce on that hunch. It's just around that time. Paris search gets yet another call this time from another team member, Marion Sunderland, who, again, has no previous knowledge of what

Graham and Andrew were up to. Here's a one for you, Jesse, and dropped it in the Twitter. Oh, I had a psychic. I had a psychic impression myself and I could see water, what appeared to be a very still lake. I saw a large slab of stone resting on the slab of stone was a sword. And with that, I got an intense overwhelming smell of rotten, decaying vegetation. Very unpleasant.

And then Alan Beard called back with some more information. So, Michael, here's another quote from Alan Beard. Since you're OK, this documentary's Voice of Alan. I decided that I would sit down with a pad, a writing pad and a pen in the dining room at home to see if I could get any more impressions of where we might look to find this greenstone. No impressions came, but I did hear somebody, a voice, perhaps, try to dictate something behind my head.

It was as if this is it was as if I was listening to snatches of a conversation. The snatches I heard gave reference to a holly bush. But the more important thing was that we weren't looking for a stone. We were looking for a sword that would lead us to the stone. Oh, God, it's Star Wars. You've got to get the magic dagger to find the thing you want. First, you have to do some favors for the old man who needs you to bring in his turnips.

And then he'll tell you where to find the stone. You're correct. Yeah, so this is starting to seem like a thing. So immediately they're like, is this real? Holy fucking shit. They go to Arthur's Bridge and while it is not next to the bridge right now in 2020, there is a film of the bridge from 1980s, like the 1980 or 1979, when they first went over there right next to the bridge

was none other than a giant holly bush, 12 to 15 feet tall. And for them, it seemed especially uncanny, because if you actually look at the image from the Nine Worthies, this is their own reasoning. I'm not saying I agree with this for sure, but this is what they said. Arthur is looking down into the left in the image. And if you're if you're looking at him as a 3D thing,

like on the 2D plane, he's looking to the right of my eyes, but he would be looking to his left if he was which if he was standing on the bridge would be exactly down to where the holly bush was. And the knights behind him were positioned exactly the same. Like if you're looking at it in that way, if he's looking at the holly bush, if that's where he's standing, Knights Hill is like framed behind the bridge, just where the knights on the hill are framed. So they're like, this has to be the place.

The holly bush is here. That's like too crazy. Going off the murals title, which again is the Nine Worthies, they counted after like trial and error, they decided nine stones in from the side of the bridge and then nine stones down. And amazingly, not only was there a shallow recess down behind the stone among the stinking rotten lake plants, which was from the dream as well, but also their flashlight when they

shone down into it seemed to be glinting off something long and silver resting at the bottom on a stone slab. And it was when they got in there and finally wiggled it out, it was a short sword, long dagger looking bladed weapon, probably ornamental because it had a rounded tip. And from tip to help, it was maybe slightly longer than your forearm, like 20 inches with a two inch cross guard. Pretty nuts.

They just found this thing. They took it to the Groverner Museum in Chester where it was studied and it was discovered to be cast from a single piece of steel. And it was it was not able to be dated, but it was identified as the same style as a 16th century Scottish Dirk that was embossed. One side of it was damaged from like age and time. The side that was like resting against the rock or maybe I don't know

which side it was, but one of the sides was like very weathered. And the other side was like an almost clear emblem hand hit the way that it would be made in the 16th century, the emblem of Mary, Queen of Scots, as well as a mysterious three word inscription on the blade. Maonia for Mary. Maonia for Mary. That's going to be important later. But yeah, mysterious phrase.

Nobody knows what it means. Amazingly, this dagger still totally exists in physical form. You can see the Dirk today at the Tudor House Museum in Upton upon Severn, which coincidentally happens to be currently located in the historical home of John Dee, who supposedly found this whole thing in the first place. I think that's more of a coincidence. I do have a picture of this thing. Here is Graham holding the dagger.

I'm going to drop that into the tweeter. Yeah, so it's like a giant letter opener. Yeah, it's like, you know, it's not a weapon. I wouldn't say like that you should feel dangerous like around. But it is a tiny little dagger sword thingy. And so that's what they literally found. And anyway, shortly after this, Alan Beard and Terry Shotten both had separate dreams of the stone where they said it was being hidden

in a brass casket and separately from each other. They when they had the when they had the dream, they woke up and drew it and they brought it in the next day and they both have the same almost the same drawing, you know, and according to Phillips, two other people. And this is going to be a quote until I say end quote to other people. Quote, known to the team had similar dreams. One dreamt of a swan and another of an avenue of trees beside a river at the end of which was a mound where she believed the stone

was buried and quote. So think about that. This reminded them of another the another new star in the Cygnus swan constellation, which was first recorded in the year sixteen hundred by Johannes Kepler and in actuality, again, probably just another like big bright celestial event that was rare. But it was the first time anyone could see it with their naked eye. And on the body of the swan, that star was located right on the base of its neck.

Naturally, after thinking about a swan's neck, this got everyone thinking of a meander in the River Avon, which was only seven miles away. It's a meander. It's like a kink in the river that's literally called swan's neck. And when they got there, just as they expected in a grassy mound by the water, they found a little brass box. I'll send a picture of it to you now.

This brought this box was actually dated to be from the 16th century, according to the video. And inside of the box. When they opened it was nothing. But a simple round jade stone, a time stone. And here's one more quote from Alan Beard. So, Michael, take us away. Summer is back and so are the deals at Larry H. Miller Chrysler Jeep Dodge Ram

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Toyota, let's go places. The first time I saw the green stone was on the evening it was found. I couldn't believe it that there it was the same small green stone that I had seen in a psychic vision weeks before. So that's him confirming that it's the same stone that he saw in his vision. And immediately after the stone was found, it was taken to the para search office. But that was just the beginning of the weirdness surrounding these events. And we'll find out more in the green stone.

Week two, coming next week. Oh, you invite someone on only to do a cliffhanger? I have to do a cliffhanger. It's too long. There's so much more to this. There's there's an entire Da Vinci code story. And then there's like an entire like ghost story going back. Are we what is happening right now?

What is happening right now? He can. All right. Sure. Why don't you do this? What a rude invitation. You want to come back next week? I'm I'm I'm interested now. You got to see what you got to see this hell, man, rude as hell. Unreal if he never got the taste of the end.

He'd never have the. I'm sure I'd listen to it. I just want to add two things. I can't poo poo anything yet. Besides the fact that, you know, there was a lot that was like long ago, some stuff probably happened. But besides that, two things. One, all the stuff he mentioned at the end that Alex was talking about,

you can literally go visit and see. So like that daggery thing, it exists. It's in a museum. I looked it up like you can go look at it right now. And then the other thing I think is of note for anyone in the LA area, let's say in October, did you know that in Oceanside, California, there is a giant Rosicrucian Fellowship Temple and it's on top of a mountain and they let you walk the grounds and let me just say the reviews of the place

are crazy. One is like, it's lovely, beautiful place to visit. One is like, I am there every weekend and we see the true power and like and then there's the other ones like these are the devil people. They are pure evil. So I will say one of the reviews I found helpful, which it's pretty lengthy, but it said something along the lines of this is not the original Rosicrucian. This is like a a heavy Christianity version.

And they're like the original ones had to do with a lot of other mysticism. And it was more worldly view than just very sort of European Christianity centric focus. And I was like, oh, good to know. But they're straight up a temple. It looks kind of abandoned, but at the same time people are there. Like the lettering is stuff has fallen off. It is a little creepy, but also like kind of interesting.

So if you are in this place, but I've never actually been there. Yeah, apparently it is. It looks the crazy thing is this one photo. It looks like this beautiful giant domed building. And then as you pan out, you're like, that's actually very small and kind of creepy and up in like the hills. It's interesting. I have no idea, but maybe we should go see it in October. I mean, yeah, they say you can walk the ground.

You have to be out by five, which also wrap this up. There are a couple of things I want to like point out about this story so far that I've been having trouble with as I've been reading this story just because just out of the end, just out of interest of like this kind of way, I cut it into two parts is because there's this like Treasure Hunt part. And then there's this like other part and this Treasure Hunt part. I want to be clear.

There's a video from two twenty twenty that came out. There's this book, The Green Stone, which is free on Amazon, by the way, if you want to read it on your Kindle, if you have Kindle Unlimited. And it's from 1982, the book. And then there's a preface to the book, which like also outlines the sequence of events. So all three of these things, the 2019 preface, because I guess apparently what happened was the book is like something that went on sale for like one print run in the 80s.

And because it's such a popular story amongst people who are into this type of shit, editions of the book were going for like hundreds of dollars or whatever. Yeah, so they released another version in 2019 with a new forward. The forward outlines another version of events that's like very different from what is in the video. And I would I will tell you, you don't want to watch this video if you're trying to follow along with my story of what happened. If you can't separate the two and you're only interested in this

from the point of view of like what's going to happen, I would say don't look it up. But if you're in the mindset where you can like hear different versions of the story and understand that I'm putting together my version of what I think the story is and then there's other versions of it, I encourage you to go watch the video because they have that video has a totally different description of the secret society and what's going on. Doesn't mention the fact that he was under hypnosis at all and has like a whole other conclusion about how that goes.

The book has two versions and I sort of like brought those all all three of the versions together in the most sensical way that I could. But a couple of things that are kind of a problem with this, of course. Also, also, the book is written like a story, which is really weird, too. It's like written like in the third person, which is. Yeah, do you think I mean, one of the big takeaways I was thinking the entire time is like this seems like a really creative way to sell an idea to people. Yeah. Right.

Like to sell, come visit our dagger or to like there's there's a lot here that I don't know. It's, you know, yeah, I can't wait to see what happens where this is going. I don't have all the information clearly, but like I'm waiting for like, all right. All right. What is happening right now? Yeah, because it is fascinating if you take it on, especially just like on surface level, like it's like you've got them. You've got the actual pictures like they're actually real.

There's enough there that anybody who didn't want to think too hard about it could just be like, I believe like, but I'm curious what like like for Jesse, where the turning point is in the story. I mean, I guess so let me get this straight, Alex, just to like summarize very quickly. Because of hypnosis. These people discovered ancient relics that are real and on display. And that's like, that's it so far in the story. Yeah. Basically.

And nobody's really like, and there's no like money element, like nobody ends up like rich by the end of this. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, there's no like, like this video has 3.5 K views. It's like doing worse than like any video that you could ever call the success on YouTube. There's like just a logical leap that's crazy to me where it's like we found it. Like we just look at it. We found a dagger and we found a box with a gem inside. And everything else is just background story made up to sell the idea that it's cool.

But we don't know anything about it other than like it's old and the legend is this. Yeah. But like we had dreams that couldn't even identify it. We had dreams. We said things under hypnosis. Like the fact, like you said earlier, Jesse, the fact that these things are in a museum is like that means to me that suggests that they were appraised by experts, that there are people who stake their reputations on like,

yes, these are legitimate artifacts of Mary, Queen of Scots and not an antique that was bought in a market and a flea market in like 1980. Right. But I mean, I haven't heard anything to suggest that like this couldn't have been an elaborate hoax. Right. Like there's there's there's we're at a weird place where it clearly is something old, but we've talked about old things on this show before that then it was just like and they kind of made it up a little bit because it seemed cooler than what it actually was.

And let's be real, people do that. People will be like, it's not as cool as we thought it would be. So like, you know, you can find a dagger and then be like, wasn't ain't was held by Arthur, baby, Arthur himself was maybe Arthur in his his miniature night. It sort of has that nationalistic angle to it. That is very appealing to the English public. Yeah, I mean, OK, like, for example,

it like it's really weird that they spend so much time talking about how none nobody who ever had a psychic vision. Ever knew what anybody else was talking about. For them to say that over and over again, I feel like that's kind of like one of the bigger things that you need to swallow in the story is just that like they were doing this crazy thing that was happening and they were like at this society that writes a magazine about paranormal research, there's hypnosis.

And this dude is like saying things about history that he doesn't know about that then turn out to be true. And for some reason, no one at the society is sharing that information with each other. And then all these other people are like having these insane visions about like stones and rocks and shit, and they're not sharing them with each other. And then yeah, they don't keep it a very private. Yeah. And then also it's like the the sword is going to lead to the stone.

But it didn't really lead to the stone. They just sort of like had this amazing thing happen with this mural and they find this sword and that. Yeah, that's true. This the vision about the sword leading the stone never came to fruition. Yeah, they do connect in a way that I have not revealed. And I'll reveal it right now, actually, because it's it's so weird because it also ties into what I was saying earlier about there being

different versions of the story in the version of the story that's in the video. The dude refers to the secret Rosy Catholic unity thing. Doesn't mention anything about that element of it. The Catholic like plot to the Catholic Rosicrucian plot to blow up the House of Lords. He just mentions it as a place where people from those two different ideologically opposite backgrounds are meeting and exchanging ideas. And he calls it the Order of Majoria.

He gives it a name, which he did not give in this other intro. And he says that Majoria is like the name of some like deity or something that has to like some sort of like holy thing that has to do with this, that John D made up. That also just shows up on the the blade. He's saying that the reason it's on the blade in the video, he's saying the reason it's on the blade is because it's the name of the order that is like keeping this thing for Mary, Queen of Scots,

because it's Majoria for Mary and Mary is spelled Marier. But in, you know, Middle English, that's Mary. So that's how they got Mary, Queen of Scots, Majoria for. Mary or Mayonae, Mayonae. What is it? What is it? Mayonae was the part that was like missing, like Love, Majori for Mary. It's Mayonae. It's Mayonae for Mary. I don't want to say the wrong thing.

Mayonae for Mary is what it says. And it's called the Order of Majoria, according to the video. But in the in the book, it's like, that's not what it is. And the psychic vision part isn't even there. And then we're going to get into some other weird psychic stuff later, like this voice that talks to Phillips, Graham Phillips, who he says is like Joanna. And he's like, I'm talking to Joanna, who was a girl

who I went to school with and they like contacted her and they were like. I don't know. I'm not like talking to him. I barely met him at school and he was like, yeah, that's true. I never really talked to her either. But like, for some reason, my psychic voice is like, that's who's telling me all this shit. What? So there's so there's all these weird little. That is like my favorite scam in the history of scams.

It's like, yeah, so, um, you know, this girl, Stephanie, she's been talking to me in my brain, telling me all these cool stuff. And then you guys are like, OK, let's go talk to Stephanie and stuff. He's like, I don't even know that dude. I'm like, well, yeah, I mean, I don't know her. She's just chosen to talk to me. That's that's cuckoo banana is crazy.

Yeah. So that's what I'm saying. There's different elements of this story. There's different versions, but frustratingly. Like, what the fuck is this? What is how? How did they? What is this like 16th century shit that they found? Like there was a mural on a wall in a secret panel room or whatever that like led them to this item.

Like, how did that happen? I need I need to ask you because I know this is this what you're doing right now is very mathist story. I'm waiting for the Alex story twist. In the next episode is one of things going to happen. One, either aliens, ghosts, possession, hauntings or, let's say, something like some crazy like the Beatles show up.

One of those things happens in the next episode. Correct or not correct? Let me let me put let me put it this way. The abandoned house that I was talking about at the beginning of the story that you just can't visualize. So one of the ones that we still didn't ever talk about. Yes. That is the headquarters of PeriSearch. Right. Are you telling me this stone destroys a house?

Zach Baggins wishes. Alex, Alex, Baggins wishes. Fosseani, are you telling me you long con me and the thing that's destroyed the house is a stone? I'm just teasing it. I'm just teasing it. It is the time stone, dude. It's fast forwarding time.

I was so ready for this. Dare you. There is a lot more. Jesse always gets mad when I do a two part. Actually turned out to be the egg of a termite queen. And then started breathing like crazy in those fools. An ancient forgotten termite breed brought back. Listen, we just brought back a forty three thousand year old multicellular organism. It's not impossible.

Yeah, it's true. But that is that is the green stone. That is the green stone part one. Now we have the green stone. We have found it. There was I told you it was British Da Vinci code. And I feel like I delivered on that bit of it, but with psychics. I was a surprise to part of it, because I was in my mind.

I'm like, all right, I'm ready to go next week. Colt Colt episodes ready to go. Oh, he always does. He never just like says, oh, I have a two party. He's like, and we'll continue because I never do have a two parter. Every time it happens, I sit down to do this for like two fucking days. And then it just the story becomes too much. Like I didn't I didn't have to go in and tell you the history

of the Rosicrucians or all that other shit that I did. But then I started reading this and I'm like, wait a minute. This guy's like telling three different stories about this. Like I have to be like, look, the Rosicrucians aren't a real secret society. It's like a parable, but like he's using it as it's real. But I don't know if that's like something new that like from since the 80s that's been rediscovered or what. And then he's like the the room where they met was discovered

and he gives them a name in the video and there's a picture of it. Like I don't know what to take. I don't know what to take away from that. A lot. Yeah. Well, we'll finish it next week. I'm excited to see where this goes, dude. I want to know what this this infinity stone is going to be. I keep looking at this stone and it looks like, I don't know.

You know, like if you have some sort of like a Mentos or a candy of some sort and you suck on it for a while and like the candy layer is gone, it's just like the drop in the middle. It's like that. It doesn't even look like a stone. It does. It looks like glass. It's pure jade, is it? It does. It does look a little like sea glass.

Yes, I feel like I'm getting a joke from the Second Blackadder series now. I don't know if you guys have ever seen that, which was set in the 1600s around the time of Queen Elizabeth the first. And yeah, his one of his friends is trying to solve his money problems through alchemy and he comes up with a lump of purest green. Yeah, I mean, dude, that's where it came from. Look at it. It's I mean, I don't know.

They got a really good hand model for it, I got to say. Yeah, I will throw these. I will throw these screen caps on reddit if you guys want if you guys bug me. But there is a video on YouTube called the Green Stone by Graham Phillips. You can go find it. It tells you all of one version of this information. And yeah, Michael, thank you so much for coming down. Oh, thank you for inviting me.

This is a lot of fun. Sorry to tease you with the clip here, but it got me got away from me. But I will mention that in a couple days, I will then make the trek. If you like the Alex and Michael show, I will make the trek across the portal of the Internet to the Vigigame Apocalypse. Yes, I will be on that show. And is this a crossover event? It is a summer crossover event and Alex is going to come on

our episode where we talk about our five favorite games of 2021 so far since we're at the end of June. So it's like, oh, we've got six months of games to talk about. Let's let's rank some of them. I can't even think of five games that have come out this year. I don't even know. Good luck, y'all. The thing the trick is when you realize how long it's been this year. That's what it's that's what really fucks you up.

Yeah, we realize we're already in basically in it's like more than half way through. Yeah, exactly. It feels like March. It's felt like March of last year for about a year. Like, no, it's still 2020, basically, right? Yeah, more or less. Exactly. Well, yeah. Thanks again, Michael. Thank you. We'll see you next week.

We're off to go with Michael to go do a chill mini for all our Patreon supporters. I don't know what everybody has, but I am going to rant about the UAP report for a little bit. So that's that's why I tell you, you fool. No, no. Listen, it's not. We'll talk about it. Don't tease it. Don't give it too much, Michael. Do you have any place these fine people can find you on the Internet? Yes.

Once again, either laser time podcast dot com or video game apocalypse dot com is where you can find the shows that I am on. You can also follow me on Twitter at wiki paris. That's W I K I P A R A Z. Great. Thank you. And please, guys, go to patreon.com slash the greatest website in the universe. I love you guys. Peace out.

Goodbye. Thank you. Anyway, me and my wife were sitting outside indulging on our porch one night, enjoying ourselves. I needed to go to the bathroom, so I stepped back inside. And after a few moments, I hear my wife go, Holy shit, get out here. So I quickly dash back outside. She's looking up at the sky and I look up to and there's a perfect line of dozen lights traveling across the sky.

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