Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 119 - Weird Corners of the Internet Part 2

Episode Date: September 21, 2021

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Yup, juice! Toyota, let's go places! Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Chiluminati Podcast, episode 119. As always, I am one of your hosts, Mike Martin, joined by Alex Fosayane and Jesse Cox, the Cheech and Chong of LA. That's us, dude. Cheech and Chong of LA! Yeah, that's you.

I will never be that cool. I wish I could pull off any single one outfit that Cheech or Chong wore, ever, in any of their films. Cheech and Chong are here, man. You got no Cheech and Chong here, man. No Cheech and Chong is here, man. You're gonna mess me. I follow them on TikTok, and it's actually a great time.

They're lovely, yes. If you have TikTok, they should follow them. They're really fun. I don't have a TikTok. Is this like the first old thing about me? Am I like... I think this might be it. This could be the very first old person thing about you.

Don't find me on TikTok, guys. But where you can find me is at Patreon.com slash Chiluminati Pod, which is not only the greatest website in the world, but the greatest website, check this out, ready? In the universe. And that's not just because the internet is confined to just one planet at this time. It is actually so good that once we get connected to the broadband galactic internet, once that's a thing, we're gonna probably quintuple at least in our patrons, just because those aliens have been waiting for us to accept their payment methods.

Which alien race will like us the most? I think the little gray dudes. The grays? I hope so, too. I really hope the grays like us a lot. Remember the one in the game that we had, the Chiluminati game, where they go upstairs and he's like eating pizza with us. That's the one.

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That t-shirt's sick. You've only got a couple more weeks before it is gone, so get it while you can. This week is back in Alex's hands. It is time to finish the surprise two-parter of weird things you found online. Yeah, we're in the weird room, and we only got to check two of the four corners last time. Where's the weird room? Yeah.

What kind of furniture is in the weird room? There's like one, there's like some kind of carved animal, probably. There's like one lamp, even though it's in the middle of the floor. Probably. There's a little guy who talks backwards in there. Oh, I see. He's really well. He's really well.

He's like really snappily dressed. Yeah. He's like red curtains all over the place. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is the room from the show Twin Peaks. Oh!

No, but this is part two of Weird Corners, guys. This is a fun one for me. I feel like I really did Jesse-proof the last episode. I mean, you guys can be the judge. If you really thought that was BS, I'm not going to like say it wasn't BS because I was probably BS. But I feel like I did a good job. What the?

Yeah. I guess I have nothing to complain about. It was all very seemed all factually based to me. Yeah. It's all weird. It's all weird. I've got my truly and I'm ready to go. Yeah.

Just as a reminder, this is called Weird Corners. So while it's definitely more focusing on the weird elements than like specifically dark elements, that doesn't mean they're not going to pop up from time to time in this episode. The first one we're about to do is pretty tame, but consider this the content warning for future entries in this list. We got gore, disturbing scenarios, descriptions of both sexual and nonsexual violence, the whole shebang.

So just prep yourself before you rep yourself. What? Prep yourself before you rep yourself. You know, you shouldn't be your own agent. That's the first mistake everybody makes when they move to L.A. And as the chieftain Chong of L.A., you know, that's something that I learned back in the 70s. So, you know, figure that out.

You know, if you're coming, you know, you know, you get it, you get it. Here we are. Number seven, take it away, Jesse. I gave you the list beforehand so you can just narrate these. Number seven, the church choir who was late. OK, wait a minute. I can do better. Yeah.

Number seven. The church choir who was late. Did you take it? Oh, I can do better. I can do better. Take another quailude. Yeah. Number seven, the church choir who was late.

Pretty, yes. Pretty good. That's pretty good. Just like, just sounds just like chills. You probably, I would love, you guys should both sing. I would love to hear you guys do a collab album. I don't sound like this. It's not my voice.

This is not my speaking voice. And can't I just say that she's not a very good parent? I feel like I feel like I have music by that person. It's the way better when you do it. I feel like you already have somebody who has that voice. That's John Lajoey. His music has got that kind of tone to it. Is that the guy from Cake?

I need your arms around me. I need to feel your touch. Number six, the burping foot levels. All right, the choir. All right, I want to start you guys out with like a like a like a like a holistic question. Do you think that coincidences are like if there's like a scale of like normal shit and absolutely

out of the ordinary strange like full on magic is real shit? Do you think that coincidences are like on the scale? Do you think they like are? Do they count as something that's like somewhat paranormal? Do you think coincidences are paranormal? I want to say yes, but honestly, it's one of those things like I forget where I heard this, but there's just billions of people doing billions of things every moment of every day.

So of course, they're going to be coincidences that end up happening. That's just like the law of large numbers. So it's just like, I don't know if I consider them magical. Yeah, but I mean, you know, there's all these like things about like quantum, whatever we've all seen in interstellar, you know, it's got that sort of like time out, time out, time out, time out, without spoiling for Mathis, who has never seen interstellar. It's true.

Are you telling me that behind a bookcase? I'm just saying, I'm just saying, like, are you trying to tell me that the first half of a movie is the second half of a movie? Do you see that? Do you see that as like just a coincidence, like science? Or do you feel like there's some sort of obviously not the movie interstellar? Fair enough. I mean, I don't know. I'm just saying, like, you know, people think about it in that way sometimes.

I don't know, like quantum entanglement equals, you know, magic. But also the human brain operates in wacky ways. Like the same kind of concept of like you're driving on the road and you were thinking about a song and then suddenly the song comes on the radio and you're like, oh, did I make that happen? And really it's like, you know, everyone's thinking about that song and it's a popular song. So of course they're going to play it at something, you know, like that kind of thing.

Right, exactly. And I, you know, I just want to get everybody in that headspace at least because today we're starting out with a story about a coincidence. And as we go through this, you let me know when you think it leaves the realm of being a believable coincidence. OK, so like I'm going to start like laying it out. And you guys just tell me when it gets too weird. OK, the day was March 1st, 1950.

The town was Beatrice, Nebraska. And at 7 25 p.m. The choir director at the West End Baptist Church, Martha Paul, expected all 15 members to show up right on time for practice, just like they did every week because she was like a very stern leader and to her punctuality was very important. And everybody knew that. So normally everybody shows up right on time

and shout outs to unsolved mysteries for this one. You may already know this if you watch that show religiously. But this is a great story. So just follow me. Follow me along. Don't look ahead. Trust me. You're going to just sell yourself short. However, today on March 1st, 1950, some exchange must have been in the air because almost immediately they started running into problems.

Every single person in the choir, one man, Herbert Kipf, decided he really needed to get a letter into the mailbox in time to be picked up. So he figured he'd take the chance and be a few minutes late so he could swing by the mailbox on the way to practice. Pretty normal, you know, not really late, like a type of thing any of us would do. Another member, Lucille Jones, was way too into a radio show that she was listening to. Remember, this was the 50s, so radio was basically TV. And since she waited to leave until it was over,

she also made Dorothy Wood late because she was her ride. So Lucille, Dorothy and Herbert are all late now. And then the pastor's daughter, Marilyn Ruth Clemple, was waiting for her mother to iron her another dress because while they were eating dinner, she accidentally spilled food on her first dress. So that's two more people that were late. And then there were the Estes sisters, Royena and Sadie, who got bopped when their car didn't start just randomly that day.

And LaDonna Vandergrift, who has a great name, who got stuck on a tough geometry problem and so she didn't leave the house right away. And then Joyce Black, who was literally just too tired to get up, even though she lived right across the street and should have had no trouble being there on time, even with literally like minutes to spare. But meanwhile, Harvey All, who's doing double duty, taking care of his two kids while his wife was out of town,

got caught up talking with a friend and he forgot to leave for practice. And by the time he realized he's got his kids set up in the car, he was late and so he had to do that. And speaking of people with kids, there was also Miss Leonard Schuster and her daughter, Susan, who couldn't get there in time because they had to stop at grandma's house to help her set up for a missionary meeting, which is literally maybe the most fifties thing I've ever heard of. And finally, we come to the director herself,

whose daughter was also called Marilyn, just like the pastor's daughter, who usually showed up at least 30 minutes early because not only did I say early, she was a stickler, but Marilyn was also the choir pianist, her daughter. So they had to be there early just because it's like to get ready and get things going. But amazingly, today they were running super late because Marilyn, the daughter, accidentally fell asleep after dinner and didn't get up till 7.15, which didn't give them enough time to get there in time after she got ready and stuff.

So first of all, I want to ask how lucky do you think it is that something like this could happen with so many different little chaos theory variables leading to this moment that every single person at the choir practice was late? That seems crazy already, right? That 15 people like the entire like, imagine you were just a person in the church and you were you were waiting and you realized that everybody was late at the same time.

Would that spook you? Do we know anything about the history of this choir or, more importantly, the person who runs it? Yeah, we know that she is a stickler and we know that they start precisely on time, literally every other week besides this. But like. Hmm, I don't know, man. I like does this does are we there?

Does this feel does this feel mysterious yet? It doesn't feel mysterious. It does feel unlikely to happen. Yeah, but I don't know. It's just like I've had times where like a group of like six or seven of us all on the same day planning to get together have all been like, actually, it's like, well, I got this, well, this came up and this happened. And I've got a kid.

It just has happened before to me something like D and D, especially, especially if you're when you're texting, when you're texting, I think it's more common that people just like if two or three people jump ship, maybe everybody will jump ship. But in this case, I think it's weird. But this is obviously not the mystery. Let me tell you that earlier that day at 4 30 p.m. The pastor rolled through to turn on the heat.

So the church would be nice and warm for the choir practice that night. But what he didn't realize was that the pilot light wasn't lit. So it just kept filling and filling with gas until 7 27 p.m. Two minutes after practice normally started and everybody should have been there already singing for two minutes when the church completely exploded in a ball of fire from the inside out and literally no one was hurt because they were all late, all 15 of them were late. Even Joyce Black across the street who was quoted as saying,

and this is going to be for Mathis to read. I'm going to drop this right in the Twitter. It's a great little quote. All right. All right. Here we go. I was just plain lazy, so I kept putting off going out the door. At last, I couldn't put it off any longer. And when I opened up the door, our church disintegrated.

I feel like that was happening. Yeah, I feel like that was happening a lot of times in the crusades, too. It's only and it's gone suddenly. Oh, there's my church. But yeah, so not only were all these people late on this one day, but also on that day, two minutes after they were all supposed to be there for their church choir, the literal church exploded in a ball of fire that would have absolutely killed them all.

There was like papers and leaflets fluttering down all over the entire town. It was like a full on gas balloon explosion, except the balloon was an entire church that would have been filling with gas for three hours. Now, what do you think of that? Pretty fucking wild, right? That's definitely fucking weird. Yeah, I think it's a fascinating and like super fun coincidence story. And, you know, I literally have nothing I can say against it.

It's like a wacky story. But part of me just the skeptic in me is like, I can't help but feel like this is one of those over the years. People added the she was a stickler because I just can't square the fact that everyone was like, yeah, I was like, I need to get there, but I wasn't in a rush to get there. And for me, a great example, like Maths was saying, is D&D, where everyone's like, hey, we got to start at eight and then, like,

everyone rolls in at eight, 15, and it's just been that way. And so everyone is always that way. And let me just remind you, though, that this is 1950, when people actually still had, like, will power. I don't know. Maybe you're a rose of color goggle with glasses this thing. I don't know. I don't know. Even Wallace doesn't know. No one knows. Yeah.

I mean, here's the thing, like, that's the thing that's weird about this. Obviously, there's not really anything paranormal about this. Not necessarily. Not like a ghost, probably. I mean, I think there's a case to be made if you're like a super religious person, that there's some sort of like divine providence in it. That I can see them spinning it easily. You know what I mean? Like, they kept us all home this day to say God saved us this day.

Yeah. Like, if I was super religious, that would be like the first place my mind went. Right. But that aside, even if you don't go there, even if you're a complete atheist, right, it is fucking wild that everybody was late to the practice at once and the church exploded. And that's just like, what happened? Because they're all still they all lived and they were all like in the paper and stuff. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I want to desperately try to explain it.

I clearly can't. But I like, you know, I want to give it a shot, but I got nothing. You got me stumped. Something I was saying that was it's kind of weirdly tangential, but it kind of reminds me of the people like the group of people who missed their flights on 9-11 because of weird things that have happened and they missed their, you know, their certain doom on that particular day as well. They're like, who didn't?

You know what I mean? You're fair. Yes. Yeah. We know that anybody die in that church. Didn't have any curiosity. Everybody lived. Everybody did not a single person. It was even the guy who came in and like thought he was lighting the pilot lighter, thought he was lighting the heater.

He was like gone three hours ago. You know what I mean? So just the whole church blew up. But yeah, Seth MacFarlane was one of those guys. Did you know that? Yeah. Yeah. He's one of the guys who didn't fly on 9-11 and he like lived. Isn't that insane? But in that case, I slept in or something. In that case, it's weird because like that thing that happened was like

globally important news immediately where like a church, a church blowing up is like maybe two seconds on the national news just because it's crazy or like, you know, maybe one night of craziness because everybody was late. But yeah, I mean, just an interesting little story to think about. Great little pallet cleanser. I always like to start with a short one at the top just to get everybody a moose, bush, you know what I'm saying? Get everybody going. But anyway, that's a story where a bunch of people didn't die.

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Check out this versatile line up at Toyota dot com. Toyota, let's go places. Number eight, killer cash. Shout outs to George Thwaites at the Bluefield Daily Telegraph for this story. Let's jump from 1950s Nebraska to 2008 West Virginia for a story about a man named Randall Lee Smith, who's known locally as Lying Randall, which is not a nickname.

Yeah, not great. This is not not what you're hoping for as a kid. But one day that spring, he was reported missing by his neighbors in Paris, Berg, West Virginia. Now, a missing person's report is something that you should always take seriously. Right. But the police took the parent, the disappearance of Lying Randall extra serious because Randall Smith also happened to be a convicted felon who years earlier in 1981

pled guilty to two counts of second degree murder for killing two hikers near the Wapiti shelter on the Appalachian Trail. Oh, my God. Yeah. Police cadaver dogs eventually had to be called and they found the bodies buried in the dirt nearby and tightly wrapped in their sleeping bags and were eventually discovered to be two 27 year old social workers called Laura Susan Ramsey and Robert Mountford, Jr.

Mountford was shot in the head with a 22 caliber pistol while Ramsey was shown to have fought for her life, had defensive injuries on her hands, 13 puncture wounds from a long nail, a head wound from being struck with a piece of iron, as well as several knife wounds. And while the body was in too poor of a condition to determine for sure, sexual assault was also heavily suspected. So Lying Randall was not a cool dude.

No, it was a piece of shit. But anyway, Randall Smith was sent to prison for this. There was a book written about the case called Murder on the Appalachian Trail. These were called the Appalachian Trail Murders. They're very famous. You can like find them. There's lots to see about them. And Smith was eventually released 15 years later in 1996, at which point he moved into his dead mother's house

in Paris, Berg West, Virginia, where he was to serve 10 years of home incarceration, which is basically what we all have all been doing for the past two years. He never really bothered anyone and people only really saw him out on the cliffs above his house, chilling and stuff or not at all, until two years after his home incarceration was up in 2008. People heard about him going up on the cliffs and the cops first just thought maybe he got hurt somewhere out on a trail or something. But eventually he walked out of the woods himself on May 8th, 2008,

looking emaciated with a fishing rod and a dog. And he and he walked out of the woods in the camp of two guys from Tazewell, Virginia, which is a hilarious name for a town, who were out trout fishing and they literally said he just walked out of the night into their camp with a dog and a fishing rod. And he looked like he was starving to death. Apparently lying Randall tried to convince them that he was an engineering graduate from Virginia Tech.

But even though they both saw through him immediately, they felt bad because he literally looked that like frail and like emaciated. Yeah. So they decided to share dinner with him. However, things went south when he whipped a 22 caliber revolver out of his pants, literally the same 22 caliber revolver that he did those murders with in the 80s. So a gun that they never found in the original crimes, put bullets in both of these dudes, stole their truck and drove off.

Somehow the dudes both lived, which you can find out more about on the show, I Survived, which is a great show if you don't know about it, though I'm sure if you listen to this show that you probably already know about, I Survived. But Randall Smith overturned their stolen pickup truck and totaled it while trying to escape some state troopers that night before he was arrested and charged with two counts of attempted capital murder and then was transferred to the medical unit at the New River Regional Jail where he died two days later on May 10th, 2008, of a blood clot.

And that's where the life of Randall Lee Smith ends. But weirdly enough, that's not where his story ends, because the day before he died, May 9th, 2008, another hiker on the trail comes forward to the police, a man whose name was William Reading, but who most people on the Appalachian Trail know as Moondog. So that dude's got some good moonshine. You know he does Moondog.

You think Moondog sells moonshine? No, he sells weed for sure. One hundred percent. Yes, he sells weed and he sells like really good burritos, maybe. But he said he was camping nearby in a thicket when all of a sudden he hears someone drive up in a Ford Ranger pickup, which he knew by sound because he well, for he also knew the taillights. But he also said he knew it because of the sound of when the doors open

and it wants you to know the doors open. He like recognized the sound of a Ford Ranger that that that's doing that. And he said that he heard that and he was like Ford Ranger. And then he heard someone like get out and was like frantically digging around, looking around and cussing with a flashlight. And it seemed like he was looking for something that he expected to be there, but he couldn't find it. And then Moondog was like, hey, and the guy was like and like took off

and just like sped off and like ran off into the night. And yeah. So here's a here's a quote from the cops about what happened next. So this is for Jesse to read here. And yeah, there you go. So we went with Moondog back to the campsite and you could not tell that he'd been there. A couple of us walked down the road and he said, stop right there.

That's where he was. Look around. Sure enough, that's Moondog. Sure enough. Right in this brush pile, we found stuff that was Smith's. We were sure it belonged to Smith because it had things like his GD certificate that he got when he was in prison. His birth certificate was in it.

Wow. A couple of other things, including a little tape recorder that tape was some kind of ritual. You could hear people moaning and screaming. Sounded like a witchcraft thing. They also found handwritten incantations that they thought came from Wicca or Thelima, a police scanner with a list of all the codes they used, a battery operated TV and maps molded from plastic that showed areas of the nearby counties with little places circled.

And here's a quote from another cop for Mathis to read that. I'm going to drop in the Twitter now for you. OK. Come on, Twitter, just give it to me. He's just give it. I'll give it a refresh. She'll show up that way. Yeah, he's.

There you go. OK. We searched those places and didn't find anything. There was, I don't know how many dozens of knives. Most of them looked like kitchen knives. There were a couple of hunting knives and maybe a butcher knife, but dozens of knives. There were clothes. I'm wanting to say eight pairs of ladies underwear. There were several pair of eyeglasses that were that were either ladies

or unisex style eyeglasses. Yeah, and apparently neither the eyeglasses nor the underwear or even the knives ever led anywhere because they were like cleaned. But they did eventually discover that based on the extremely similar wording and a couple of phonetic based spelling errors that they found in his handwritten notes, it is very likely that the versions of the hail to the guardians of the watchtowers and now is the time now is the hour incantations that he wrote are the ones that are from the movie The Craft.

Like they think he copied them from The Craft. Now, I want to emphasize the police work on this case was excellent and that there are not very many unturned stones here. As far as like bad detective work is concerned, the cops on this case seem to have actually done a completely comprehensive job. No reason to think they did otherwise. But the contents of the cash and the weird maps and everything leave some questions because nobody knows what his connection to the occult was.

The rumor at the time was that he like sold his soul to the devil and was like trying to outrun the devil or something. That's what people were saying in the neighborhood. Nobody knows if like maybe the caches are like something about like his real bad crimes that we don't even know about that he did because he was a pretty fucked up customer. Nobody knows. I was going to say like just from like my my serial killer stuff,

like knowledge, it seems like I mean, we only know he's only got those two confirmed kills, right? Yeah. It just it seems like any shot those two guys. Yeah, he tried to kill two others, but that seemed like a like a weird desperation thing. It seemed like he was in like his ramp up phase where like he maybe those were his first kills ever. Those underwear probably collected from stalking incidents and the like.

It seemed like he was maybe a killer, a serial killer, ramping up and getting ready to enter like a phase of real heavy violence before he was caught because he's owned his own stupidity and idiocy. It's just wild because it was 20 years. You know, think of of itself like any just that anything could have gone differently and who knows what he could have done. Yeah, it's just wild because it had been 20 years. You know what I mean? Like he was just like nowhere for 20 years.

And then one day he's like instantly a crime and then he's dead and then they find this crazy cash. So it makes me think like what has he been doing for all those years before? And and who's Moondog? Did Moondog was Moondog really just some hippie in a bush that like happened to see him and he had like chanting? They don't think the chanting was from the craft. They think that what he wrote was from the craft and that the chanting is.

They think it's probably recording of something like like not not like a bunch of dudes in a room that he recorded, but rather like some piece of media, but nobody knows what it is because those tapes are not public. He was if he was living in those woods and people camped there regularly, it's very likely he was probably stalking people's camps, maybe quietly recording people. Who knows? Like, yeah, like it's possible that he could have just been like some crazy like forest killer, you know, like some insane like

like dozens of knives. Underwear like, I don't know, this goes right into it's kind of ties into missing four on one in a weird way. And who knows how many of those cases are people like people just in the woods doing horrible, horrible things and never getting caught because they're in the fucking woods. Yeah, I don't know. I saw somebody online saying Jesse, just no, no, no.

I saw somebody online saying that maybe Moondog is a friend of this guy and that he was like trying to like be like, yo, dude, like we're going to make your legends real, you know, like we're going to like like make this into something crazy. But I don't know. That's like not substantiated by anything real. I don't mess with any forest people. But you know, right now, man, no, the hell knowledge we don't have.

They have no knowledge we don't have. I literally had an experience in high school with them. I think I've said it on this show. You have like, dudes came out the woods and like looked around and we were like, no, thank you. Like what are cops going to do about that shit out there, man? There's nothing they can do. It's just like it's hundreds of miles of woods in any direction

trying to find anybody in that is is it a task unto itself? Yeah, absolutely insane, absolutely wild. But yeah, speaking of historical discoveries, Jesse, hit me. Number nine. All sety. Is that how you say it? You nailed it for this one goes to Peter Presker at historyofyesterday.com and to the many wonderful editors of a fantastic Wikipedia article

that is very well cross checked. So that's cool. Now, let's go from the world of true detective to the world of like kind of like Indiana Jones, or I guess actually more like the Brendan Frasier's iconic 1999 remake of the mummy more accurately, if I take you out across the Atlantic Ocean back in time to London, 1907, where a three year old girl called Dorothy Edie has just fallen down the stairs at her family home and was pronounced dead

by the family physician. At first, her family was completely absolutely heartbroken, but not an hour later, the doctor came back to find Dorothy alive and healthy again, having miraculously bounced back from some sort of head injury, which must have just like shut her off for a little bit, put her into standby mode for a little bit, apparently, right? Which happens sometimes with people. You know, sometimes people literally get hit in the head and they seem dead

and then they just aren't like, you know, it's nuts. But things were never quite the same with Dorothy after that. Anyway, pretty soon, she developed something called foreign accent syndrome where sometimes, yeah, as a result of mental or physical trauma to the brain, people can sometimes mysteriously develop a foreign accent from a place they never lived to pick up the accent. Sometimes it's a specific accent. Sometimes it's just like some kind of strange made up foreign accent.

That's like something from your own brain that you just start doing. But she also started to run and hide under the table in the kitchen and beg her parents to take her quote unquote home, which she saw in her dreams and was filled with huge columned buildings and wonderful green gardens. One year later, after a year of causing trouble at her Sunday school for getting weirdly obsessed with defending the ancient Egyptian religion in class, when she was just four years old, she went to the British Museum,

where Jesse just was recently, I probably, which she thought was super duper boring until she got to the Egyptian exhibits, where suddenly she brightened up and began hugging and kissing the feet of the statues and begging her parents to let her stay there forever. Three years later, on another visit, she found a photo in the New Kingdom exhibit from the Temple of Seti the first and lost her mind. She told her parents that the place in the picture was the home from her dreams,

but that she was sad because the pictures of it that she was looking at there didn't have the gardens. She was like, where are the gardens? The gardens are missing from this place. What the hell? So a couple of years later, because World War One was happening and bombs were falling in London, she moved out to live with her grandmother in Sussex, where she slowly descended deeper and deeper into her obsession with ancient Egypt until one day when she was 15,

she was visited in the night in her dreams by the mummy of Pharaoh Seti the first. Oh, God, why couldn't you go in like your living being form? Why do you have to be in decayed mummy form? I feel exactly the same way, especially because right after that, they had sex with each other, which, yeah, that's right. That's right. She had sex with the mummy, according to her own autobiography. Sorry. And rigor mortis, I wish I could tell you that it wasn't true, but she wrote in her own autobiography and maybe it was like the guy.

Maybe he's like, you know, kind of hot emo temp where there's like he's got a little bit of like mummy, but like most of them are like a World War One goth. He looks like mostly like a dude, but he like still a bug can crawl out of one part of his face and go in the other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I eat it again because it's kind of hot. It's kind of hot in like a magic kind of way. No, it's not. If I was like in in like World of Warcraft, I could get into it, I guess. No, it started to tangent,

but I'm assuming you've seen the new remake of the mummy, which I have not seen. I haven't seen the movie. But I was going to say, does she get like a pseudo half dead, half hot form? She has no, she has like eyes, I think is her thing. I think I haven't seen it. But OK, I played the I played the like way forward 2D game, which was I heard that was great. Yeah, the D make. I don't know. It's not the same movie, for sure.

Like it's way, way, it's way more whack. Anyway, continue, continue. Yeah, so she had sex with the mummy of Ferro City, the first in her dreams. And that kickstarted an entire series of nighttime dreams and visions, which she wrote about in her journals for ever, never, never. She was also constantly found sleepwalking or having extremely intense nightmares by her grandmother, which eventually which eventually led her to several incarcerations in various sanatoriums around England.

And she left school completely by age 16. However, because her family was wealthy with like English movie industry money, she didn't go to school, but she was like a rich person. So she just like spent her time geeking out about Egypt and collecting Egyptian artifacts and enrolling in art school so you could learn about Egypt. And at one point she was also in a play where she played ISIS opposite Osiris in a play. And by the time she was 27 years old, she was working at an Egyptian

PR magazine writing articles and pro-Egyptian independence political cartoons. And then she met her boyfriend, Iman Abdel Magid, a student from Egypt, who she eventually moved with back to Egypt to get married. And she gave birth to her son with him, who she named Seti with a Y instead of an I after the Pharaoh. Of course, got to keep it modern. This is like that spin on it. That guy who's like 55 years old, who's like a white dude from like California,

but he like loves Hawaii. But then like Times 10 is what happened here. Yeah, clearly. Yeah. Apparently, she had a past life. Yeah, apparently when she first set foot on Egyptian soil, she kissed the ground and said something along the lines of, finally, I've come home to stay. And from the 30s to the 50s, she just sort of became like a known figure

around the various temples and pyramid sites because she had this insane knowledge. She would like bring offerings to the temples like they were still temples. And she would take her shoes off when she would visit. And all the while in private for 20 years, she was still experiencing these visions and freely talking about all this stuff that was going on with her two people that to the point that her husband and her family were getting like actually like, what the fuck is this shit? Like, what are you like?

You got to stop this like Egypt weeb shit. Like, what the fuck are you doing? Like, this is this is way too much. But apparently, according to an apparition of Hoorah, that visited her regularly for over a year, in a previous life, she had been a young woman in ancient Egypt called Ben Trashit, which translated to harp of joy, whose vegetable seller mother died, which caused her to be placed in the temple of Kome el-Sutan

because her soldier father couldn't afford to raise a kid. And she was raised instead to be a priestess and took the vows of a consecrated version. Apparently, one of her duties was performing as Isis in a yearly play at the temple, just like Dorothy did in college. And as a result, one day she caught the eye of who else? But Pharaoh said he the first himself and they quickly became lovers. Though, for some reason, back in ancient Egypt,

the cute name for becoming lovers was eating the uncooked goose, which is just not a good idiom, I'm going to say. But when she became pregnant with his child, she decided to take her own life instead of subject Sedi to the public outrage for doing something so blasphemous. So she fucking killed herself and Sedi went on to have a great legacy. And back in the present day, Dorothy's family had just about had enough of this nonsense about being a reincarnation from Egypt, ancient Egypt.

Her husband filed for divorce, left her with her son. So she decided to dedicate the rest of her life to becoming a scholar of ancient Egypt, which literally she slowly and surely over the course of 20 years did gained a lot of mainstream respect in the field, worked as a draftswoman at the Department of Antiquities, earned various shout outs in scholarly publications, including a quote special mention with sincere gratitude in Salim Hassan's 10 volume Excavations at Giza,

which is a very big important work in Egyptology at the time. And eventually, however, though, after, like I said, 20 years of work in the field, she had become known as Aum Setti after a Muslim custom of referring to a mother with the name of her firstborn son, which in her case is Setti, so she's Aum Setti. And finally, she was able to get a job near her, quote, unquote, home temple of Sedi the first in Abedos. And with the approval of the spirit of Sedi the first himself,

she set out with a mission to offset the sins of her past self in the modern times by doing right by the temple. So at one point, the chief inspector of the Antiquities Department had come to the temple to test her alleged special knowledge of Egypt by having her walk around the room in total darkness and stand at various wall paintings and asked her to identify them based on what I heard this. Yes, she she she identified them based on what she knew from her days as a priestess,

which according to biography, she was able to do flawlessly, even though they were not it was not published information. It was like information that this doctor had about the temple and she she just did it just like him. She spent two years skilfully translating some of the most enigmatic texts the Antiquities Department had on file. She wrote out a liturgical calendar of ancient Egyptian feast days. She said she still felt a deep connection to the temple

and she would visit every morning and every night to recite the proper prayers, make her offerings and even converted one of the rooms of the temple into her personal office, which she shared with a cobra, which she made friends with by feeding it. And now we're going to go back to the gardens again, which I've now mentioned several times where she was like, this is my home, but where are the gardens? The reason this garden was so special to her was because she said that that's

where Ben Trashit and Seti first met and fell in love with each other is in these gardens, but there was never any record of it anywhere until she came to Abedot's herself and she was like, dig right there. And they excavated fucking gardens exactly how she said they would be laid out exactly how said how she said they would be. And anyway, she continued to live a life just like this all through the 50s and 60s and 70s, using the curative power of certain holy places to maintain her health, curing other people's ailments regularly

with Egyptian folk medicine, especially she was famous for curing impotence. And she became an even more respected member of the Egyptology community to the point that she even published a few things completely on her own, like real peer reviewed academic work. She had a small heart attack in 1972. But again, remember, she was born in 1907. She was getting on at this time. She moved into a small reed hut before permanently settling in a mud brick

house next to the family home of a family of Seti Temple time keepers where she lived out the rest of her days, mingling with Egyptologists and receiving more and more secrets of the ancient world from Seti the first, including possibly the location of Nefertiti's missing tomb. Apparently, she started claiming that she knew where it was in the early 70s, but she didn't want to say where it was out of respect for Seti the first, who fucking hated Nefertiti's husband, Akhenaten, for his blasphemous attempts to rewrite ancient Egypt's religion,

which is not a fake thing. Like if you ever studied ancient Egypt or you know anything about Akhenaten, you know that this dude was like, he wasn't as like, I don't think he was as wild as Caligula, but it was the same vibe where it was like this dude was in power. He was doing some wild shit. Everybody was like, what are you doing? He was like changing the art style of Egypt.

And then after after and he changed the religion, he like changed the capital and all this stuff. And then after he was done, they like destroy his face off all his monuments and they were like trying to wipe them. They literally were like, that guy did not exist. Fuck that guy. That's like he was like a truly hated pharaoh by like everyone. And so

she was like, I don't want to like put on her on Nefertiti's family. But she did say that it was super close to Tutankhamun's tomb, even though popularly scholarly opinion at the time dictated that the Valley of Kings didn't have any more tombs in it. Sure enough, in 1998, following up on two sonar data anomalies from 1976, Egyptologist Nicholas Reid found two more unbroken seals similar to those found on other tombs nearby in that exact area from the same seal guy. They scanned the area two years later, showing evidence for two empty chambers,

but some possible thefts in the area put pause on thing until 2006, when another unrelated dig accidentally broke through the wall into one of the sealed areas, which turned out to be filled with all kinds of mummy making gear for a royal burial. Leet lending evidence to the other room actually being a tomb, like there's actually credence to the other room being a tomb. Another paper by Reeves from 2015 seemingly confirmed the fine, though it's not been unsealed.

And since then, another scan from like 2019 said there might not be something there. So it's not for sure for sure. But setting the first in Dorothy, I've also claimed that there's a Hall of Records attached to the Temple of Amunra, Luxor, that supposedly like library of Alexandria level ancient texts in it that could be found and that it's currently buried under the modern Arab Socialist League building nearby, but I don't know how old that factoid is.

And if that building even exists, I couldn't find it on Google. But you'll have to read the book, Omseti's Egypt. For more information, you can get it for pretty cheap on Amazon. And I get the sense there's tons more weird stuff like this in there than I'm even covering here. But as she got older, pilgrimage to the temple happened less and less. Though she was able to make one last trip in March of 1981 with the National Geographic Channel when she was seventy seven years old.

They helped her get up there by like carrying her and stuff with the crew. But by April of 81, her condition had deteriorated so much that she gave away her cats and she built her own underground tomb, even with like some like religious idols inside. And on April 21st, 1981, she died peacefully in Abaddoze. Sadly, however, the health department would not let her be buried in her homemade tomb, so she was instead buried in an unmarked grave facing West in the desert outside a Coptic cemetery, which is kind of sad now that I think about it.

But that is the tale of Omseti. What do you think of that? If that's all one hundred percent true, that's a wild story. The things that are true is that she pointed out where a garden was that was not known about before and she was able to identify things that an Egyptologist was the only living person who knew about. That's what's true. It's also true.

It's also true that she was a real figure in the in this in the senior year. She wasn't like it wasn't like crazy old Omseti. I mean, like they all knew she was they all knew she was wacky, but they weren't like she does not know shit about Egypt. Like like that was not ever in question. She was like an expert. She was just extremely. She's like a Harry Potter professor about ancient Egypt.

You know what I mean? Like she was just like a wacky doodoo lady, but like it's inexplicable. Some of that stuff that she did. So I don't know. I don't know what to say about that. It's a weird time because it was like it is almost modern times because it's like the 70s and 80s. But there's like a lot of things missing from those times that we have now

that would make it a lot easier to find this out. So, you know, I don't know. What do you what do you guys think? Is it is it convincing? Oh, it's definitely like interesting. I find it. Good, good, reasonable answer. It's interesting.

Yeah, it is. It's very interesting. I don't know. Like, I don't know what else to say about it just because like she bonked her head and she awoken up her past life. Like, I'll tell you, man, imagine it's like the year 2400, you know, you're you reincarnated, you know, the the breadcrumbs wars are in full swing. You crack your head in a rock.

You see a picture of Smoggy L.A. from 2021. And suddenly all you do is crave to move back to L.A. Because it's like I need a double double again. But you were definitely under water by then. Definitely. It's like the island of America versus the island of Europe for the last island of America versus the island of East America. No, but yeah, speaking of water, Jesse hit us up with this next one.

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It comes off as strange to me, but I guess no stranger than anything else. The weird thing about it is that it's always called the Rain Boy online, but it's like a man. I don't know. I don't know why it's, I don't know why it's, why he's called the Rain Boy.

Disrespectful is what it is. I guess. Incredible. This one comes to us courtesy of Christina Tattoo from the Pocono Record, and it set only a few years after the second passing of Alm Setti in 1983. It was February 26th,

and this dude called Don Decker was on compassionate leave from a prison sentence he was serving in Monroe County for receiving stolen property because his grandfather had just died. So that's what he was doing. He was out on, he was out to go to this funeral. But according to some accounts, this grandfather had actually been a dark figure

in this dude's life who regularly beat him and abused him from a very young age. So this might have been a weird occasion for Don, weirder than you might imagine it would be. And maybe it's one of those situations where you have a chance to get out of jail, even though you hated this fucking guy. You're gonna take your chance to like,

not be in jail for a little bit. And so anyway, while he was out on leave, he was crashing with some family friends, Bob and Jeannie Kiefer, and it was a pretty normal night. Don was upstairs in one of the bathrooms, getting ready to come down and have dinner with everybody when suddenly he says he has this vision

of an old man wearing a crown that he saw reflected in the window glass. And it freaked him out, he just fell on his hands and knees against his will. And when he looked down at his wrists, which had suddenly began to burn, he saw deep and unexplainable scratches in his skin. And at first, he just tried to pull himself together

and come down to dinner. But just as soon as he sat down and started to explain what happened to him, all three of them heard a loud sound coming from upstairs. And when they looked at the area of the ceiling where it came from, they noticed, uh-oh, wait a minute, there's water dripping down all around us on the walls and ceilings,

and that doesn't make any sense. Okay, sounds like a burst pipe, that's scary. So now at this point, everyone's freaked out. Sounds like Rain Boy. Yeah. We got it, sounds like we got it. I realize they can't call him Rain Man because of the movie. That's probably why.

The classic case of a, we got a classic, this is a classic textbook Rain Boy situation. Everybody's freaked out. So Bob Kiefer calls up Ron Van Wye, his landlord. His name is literally called Ron Van Wye. And the two of them started to poke around, check it out. Obviously, the first thing they thought was that maybe it was

a leaked pipe or a burst pipe. But after looking into it, they realized that the pipes are actually coming down the other side of the house on the complete wrong side. And the water was still coming, and Decker had fallen into some kind of trance. So Bob and Rod did what you wish everyone would do in these kinds of situations so you can get

some proper documentation. He called the local authorities. Hey. So like, eventually these two officers, John Bojan and Richard Wolbert show up. They are completely convinced this dude is possessed or something based on what they see. But when they call in the chief of police,

just like they saw, just to give you an idea of how real this was. They saw this dude. They were like, oh shit, let's call it. Like that's what happened. And he came down and he was like, no, this is bullshit. Do not entertain dumb shit like this. Don't even follow a report.

This is embarrassing. Shut the fuck up. But I guess they were pretty freaked out these two cops because the next day two more cops, William Davies and John Rundle show up anyway. And they're like, fuck the chief, something's going on. We're going to figure this out. And according to them,

they saw more claw marks appear on Don Decker's neck in real time, just like they did on the first night. And they also apparently saw him float into the air and get thrown across the room. And they saw him burn himself by touching a cross. And all the while, the weird indoor rain phenomenon that had started Friday night continued straight through to Sunday night

when it finally stopped because Don Decker had to go back to prison. But this wasn't even close to over because apparently the indoor rain came with him back to prison. The officers on duty reported that water wasn't just falling from the ceiling, but doing strange unnatural things like running up the walls of certain cells in the jail

or literally falling horizontally through the air as if gravity shifted and it was raining 90 degrees. Apparently the shift supervisor is a guy named Dave Keenhold came in ready to shut down the like rabble. He was like, all right, let's see what the fuck's going on here. But then he freaked out because it rained on him, like straight at him.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What does that mean? It rained straight at him. He looked at Rain Boy. Rain Boy snapped his fingers. Like a water gun? No, like, okay. He walked in to be like, what is this?

And then he saw Rain literally falling like, as if it was falling from the sky, but it was falling from in front of him, like onto him, like a inversion of gravity, water falling onto his face, like a wall of water, like rain inside the room. Yeah. Wait, so the rain doesn't act how, so that's pressurized rain is what you're saying.

It's rain falling. If it's that way, it is spraying at him. It's like not falling. Like it's not being projected. It's moving as if it's falling. It looks like rain. It's just happening 90 degrees turned. That's, yeah.

That's not even how physics works, but okay. It's definitely, it's certainly not how physics work. So at this point, Supervisor Keenhold is like, we need to bring in the big guns. He calls in the fucking chaplain, a guy named William Blackburn, to literally perform a full on exorcism on this guy. Again, this is not the old West.

This is America in the 1980s, but apparently this dude was a badass priest because that shit worked. Rain did not fall anymore. And the exorcism was the thing that did it and rain never fell again. But to be fair, I did want a few counterpoints to this article

because it is fucking insane. So just to honor the idea that we're saying that this might be real, you know, like I don't want to like say this could be real and not give any sort of counterpoint to it. So Jesse, if you'd be so kind as to read this for the people, here's a quote from skeptic magazine about this case from a guy called Robert Bartholomew,

like a researcher. Imagine you've got shitty waterbending powers and then a priest prayed on you and you got, and you lost them all. I know. That's why you got to go into the power. I mean, I've seen season one of Quora. It's roughly the same.

Yeah. It's basically, that's why you got to go to the devil to get your powers. Dude, he doesn't answer the phone. All right. Why not phone the local TV station to record this event? Oh, we are left with our eye witness accounts from excited observers with the world view

that includes the reality of the devil. Human perception is notorious then reliable even under ideal conditions. Stress can alter perceptions and it is difficult to imagine few events more stressful than believing you are in the presence of a man who is possessed by demonic forces. While so-called trance states may be triggered by stress

and do not necessarily denote mental illness or disorder, they are also easily faked. It is remarkable Decker did not receive medical attention. Instead, attempts were made to exercise him. Pretty reasonable point, I would say, from this guy, right? Yeah, I agree. But doesn't really explain the rain situation that everybody was experiencing.

I've got nothing that comes close to explaining what the jail guys said happened at Monroe County. But at least as far as the events in the house were concerned, it is a fact that in the area where the house was located, which, by the way, is in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania, over in the Northeast, here is a little quote for you to read, Mathis, as the final thought for this section.

Here we go. Okay, okay. This is on Twitter as well. Yeah, I'm going to drop it in right now. There it is. As for the rain, a report by the Manufactured Housing Research Alliance says Pennsylvania is at a moderate to high risk

for winter moisture problems with one of the most severe events being ice damming. This is caused by warm air entering an attic that melts snow on the outer surface of a roof, resulting in an accumulation of ice under which pools of water form and leak. Yeah. So there is a possibility that somehow ice

ran from the pipes over somewhere else and then became a big ice and then that came apart and melted for several days. But it's still probably not what happened based on what... If what they described happened, that's probably not what it was. But this is a thing that people know about in this place. And when you look at this and you post it on Reddit

and you're like, oh, this was in Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania. This is what people say it is. So I just wanted to put that in there and leave that there. But anyway, whatever you make of it, if you're somewhere operating in an official capacity and you see something weird, fucking make a record of it.

You know, unless of course... We got phones now. Record that shit. Yeah, just whip it out. Unless it's being recorded already, which brings us to... Time out. I can't believe we're going to move on.

From the fact that... You're telling me... Demons. They're... I'm not telling you demons. I'm just saying what they said. Demons have come to Earth. They are inhabiting and possessing.

They are doing their thing. And the way they're going to get humans is with the minor inconvenience of being wet. I'm going to say... You're telling me that they were like... And now you're wet! That's what they did? I'm saying he thought he saw demons

and that a bunch of cops came and looked at him and they all saw some real freaky happening with water all around him in various different locations. Stuff that is like beyond... Water? That's what they... Not flies or like... Water stone or like...

Where he was having a mental war and he was able to negate the negatives instead of flies. Oh, such God, do you think it was one of the witches from that house that we never talked about? Such as the way of the rain boy. You don't do it like that with Professor X? No, no, no, no! You have to touch...

You have to touch your temple to calibrate it or whatever he does. Yeah, and he was trying to cause... He was trying to cause some hellfire but the water around him... The reason why they're getting sprayed with the water is because it was making it so they wouldn't catch on fire. Oh my God, those witches got it.

Do you think Professor X blows like smoke ring? Do you think he tries to nail the shape of those little psychic waves that shoot out? Like he's like... Gandalf? Like he shoots out like a ship sometimes? I think sometimes, yeah. I think you would.

I feel like he can do fucking... You've got to keep it fun, Professor X would. Yeah. He's... My Professor X is Patrick Stewart. Like literally it's... It's Patrick Stewart but he has powers. Right, right.

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All right. So it was the morning of August 13th, 1997. And just like every other morning for the last nine years or so at that time, Howard Stern was broadcasting a live episode of the Howard Stern show. Oh. Yeah, just in case the people have somehow not heard of Howard Stern, do you want to give everybody a quick refresher on who Howard Stern is? My God, Howard Stern is the original shock jock.

Unless maybe like, I don't know, maybe I'm... He's not the original shock jock. He's not the original, but he's like the one. He's one of them. He's the guy. Yeah. Yeah. When you think of a shock jock.

Everything that Joe Rogan is today, he has Howard Stern to thank 100%. Right. Howard Stern was a popular, for those of you who are young, Howard Stern was a popular figure when I was a kid and continued to be a popular figure through all of high school and everything. He still is. He went to satellite radio at a certain point and he was the first guy to like make satellite radio like a reason why you would subscribe to satellite radio if you had satellite radio

money. Yeah. Yeah. And so yeah, and he was like very, very popular and he always like had hot takes and that's pretty much, you know, he had a TV show like everything. He had a movie. A movie? Yeah.

A literal movie. Exactly. So today, because it was the type of show that it was and because it went to the places it often went to, it really took a lot to like rattle Howard Stern. You know what I mean? But when a caller, when a caller going by the name of Clay called in that morning from the New Orleans area, he was about to take everyone listening to the show for a wild ride.

So Jesse, I'd like you to be Howard and Robin, who is Howard Stern's cohost since they both kind of got involved. I'm not going to like separate their lines. I just like mix them together into like lines that make sense. And Mathis, I'd like you to be Clay. Is that okay? All right. I'll be Clay.

So I'm going to send you guys some like choice clips. I'm excited to be Clay. This is a terrible idea. You guys are just going to play out the Howard Stern show. Here we go. Ready? Is this going to be on the Twitter? Yes.

There. Okay. My Twitter is just always behind for some weird reason. This is a terrible idea. I don't know how Howard Stern sounds. I see it. He's like, he talks like this. He's just like, you know, he's got a really deep voice, talks like this.

Hey, I got a guy on the phone who claims he's been killing prostitutes and he's wondering why he's doing it. Oh, God. I'm making me read this. So maybe he thinks I have it. Sir. Is this Ed? Ed?

No. This isn't Ed. Oh. You haven't killed any prostitutes. No. I never said my name was Ed. Oh. So what?

Hold on. Where is, where is Robin? You are both. You're just saying both of their lines as if they were one person. Oh, well, 100% Robin would have said, oh, you haven't killed any prostitutes. For sure. That's Robin. They were like, they were like, uh, is it Ed?

Is it Ed? And he's like, no, this is not Ed. And they're like, oh, you haven't killed any prostitutes. And he's like, no, I didn't say my name was Ed. I have killed a bunch of prostitutes. And they're like, oh, okay. All right. Yeah.

What name do you use? You can call me Clay. Okay. Clay. So what happened? How many prostitutes have you killed? 12. And you're wondering why you do it?

No, I have a pretty good idea. Why? Did your mom beat you? Did your mom spank you? Was your mom a prostitute? No, actually, it's nothing like that. What was it then? I think I just do it for the sense of power.

Right. Do you have sex with them first? Yeah. And then what? You strangle them? Well, once. How else would you kill them? Well, a few times, actually, most of the times with the hammer.

Yeah. And then that goes on. Yeah, that call. You can go listen to that call. I've heard that call before. Yeah. It's like an 11 minute call. He is extraordinarily nonchalant about the whole thing.

It's insane. And he goes on to talk about how he usually kills them in a parking garage, but once or twice, he did it on the side of the road. And to their credit, Howard and Robin are like, never stop low-key trying to like get him to like say things about himself that are going to like, they're like, are you in your white? They're like, you have any tattoos? They're like, you know, like, they're trying to.

Yeah. The whole time, they're very clearly trying to fish for more information. They're like, have you killed animals before? They're like, where are you? Like, are you a big guy? How old were you when you killed your first lady and stuff like that? And he says he was 16, by the way, which is nuts. But it's actually Clay, who's more shocked than Howard, when he realizes a few minutes

into talking that he's not talking to a producer and that he's actually like live on the show. He's like, literally like, you can listen to him. He's literally like, is this Howard? And he's like, yeah. And he's like, yeah, he surprises himself. Howard's like, hello. And he's like, oh, I didn't realize I was talking to Howard. Hi. Hello. Hi.

It's like really weird to hear this guy saying that. But yeah, here's another here's another little clip that just it's just a really surreal conversation. So here's another clip to give you a little bit more info. Right. And when you killed the first one, did you go in there knowing you were going to kill her and just sort of happened? I knew I had I really had it planned out. You know, I wanted to do the whole sending clues. I wanted to baffle people, but it turns out no one noticed for a long time.

I wanted to thumb paint, you know, with their thumb. Oh, really? Thumb paint with their thumbs? Thumb painting what, though? I don't know. Oh, anything. It was in a comic book a couple of years ago, and it just seemed like a good idea. Like you take a girl you killed in a dipper thumb and paint, and then you do like a thumb painting. Yes, on a piece of paper.

Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Like it is so fucking weird. He's really like he's like you literally hear him being like, huh, you just you wanted to paint you want to paint with their thumbs. And he's like, yeah, he's like, OK, then he asked me if you ever played with the bodies or anything after you murdered I mean, that's truly based. So like if for those of you who don't know,

if you're wondering like why he's so nonchalant, Howard Stern, the whole point is like the people who are calling in 99 percent of the time are like some trying to pump him as much as he's trying to punk them. So he 100 percent does not believe this is a real killer, like does not at all. Yeah, he's he's I mean, he's simultaneously like not giving this guy anything, but also kind of like winding him up like ninja style. He's like getting you can like really he's really a fucking good interviewer.

Like, I mean, I don't really care. I don't really care for a show that much, but like, you know, the dude can master of his really gets what he gets stuff out of people that other people don't get and he doesn't need chicken wings to do it. It's pretty wild. He asked he asked them if he played with them after he murdered them and he says not really, but the closest thing he ever used to do was make sure that he left the money that he owed them on them somewhere

where when he left and he says that one time he was surprised when one of the sex workers ended up having a penis that he didn't expect and that for that one, he ended up leaving the money quote unquote in a compromising place, but they don't go into that too far. They go on to talk about his home life, how he wasn't abused or anything about how he currently has a couple of kids, even though he's not married to the mother. And ironically enough, when Howard asks him if he's a white dude, he says he is and that it made him laugh because the hottest suspect

they ever had in the case turned out to be like this black police officer guy. And he was like laughing his ass off about that. Then they go into the motivation behind the killings and he says it's not really a sex thing like he has sex with the hooker sometimes because he likes to. But it's not like sexual release for the killings, even though sometimes he said he would like think about the killings later while he was masturbating. And it's not really a hate crime type of thing for him either, where he's like targeting anyone with specific features other than that.

They're sex workers because, unfortunately, in our society, sex workers are pretty invisible. And when they start to ask about how often and stuff, he seems pretty like he doesn't seem to have all the answers. He's just sort of like kind of out of this vibe. He's like, I don't know. Sometimes I get bored and I kill people. He says one time I did two in one night because I was feeling it,

but I like drove to Mississippi to do the second one. And it felt really weird and he doesn't really know when it's going to happen because it really isn't like one of those like typical stereotype serial killer type things that you see. It's very much just him sort of like not knowing why he kills people and kind of just doing it because he can and wants to kind of. But here's another here's another clip for you guys. I don't even approach him, I wait for him to approach me, Robin.

And do you ever like poor Robin? That's not her voice. You ever like looking to their eyes like Seinfeld? These people are just children at one point. And maybe they just had a tough life. I've let a couple go. You have? Like what happened? You're in the middle of killing them.

And what do they say? Why would you let one go and kill the other? There was this one. Go ahead. I think she was probably really new to it. Yeah, there was just something about her. Maybe she reminded me of my ex-fiance, but right. You somehow more of an innocent quality. I just you somehow felt bad for.

Yeah. Yeah, it's really it's really an intimate little interview. He says he hasn't killed anyone in a year. They start to ask him like, what's next? Are you going to kill yourself? Are you going to kill again? Can you stop this? And the conversation after that is like maybe the best part of the interview. So I'm going to give you guys I'm going to give you guys that bit to read next.

This is like absolutely insane. Are you going to kill again? Can you stop this? If I killed myself, I'd miss the next Batman movie. Right. You don't want to do that. No. No, but all seriousness. I mean, do you think that you can control this? I think I have been.

Oh, you have been for the last couple of months a year. You haven't killed. Almost. So why do you think you stopped killing all of a sudden? I really don't know, Howard. I just part of it is has to do with my with my car being broke down. Seriously, that's the reason. Well, that was the reason for a month.

But after that, I guess it was all self control. Wow. Yeah. And it's fucking weird. And Howard, like he's trying to laugh it off, making these jokes about like Batman and stuff. And Howard's like, no, no, no, no, no, we're going to talk about this. They start pushing his buttons a little harder, asking more personal questions like when was the last time he got laid and stuff.

But he says like last week, Howard, and he's not too worried about any of it, getting back to him because he believes that the cops have no idea who he is. Even he jokes that one person he knew saw the killings in the paper and was like, I bet this was you, you weirdo. But he like really loved because the person was just joking. But like it really was him. But right. So like right after the call, apparently,

the FBI were like very interested because he was mentioning specific details about his killings that hadn't been made public. And he was right about the black police officer thing where there was a suspect who was a black police officer, was a guy called Victor Grant, who was the boyfriend of someone who got murdered and was allegedly mixed up into this like weird casino crime shit that was going on. But nothing ever came of it in this specific case. No face has ever officially been put to the name

Clay, the serial killer from the Howard Stern Show. But there was one guy called Russell Elwood, who may have been Clay, who was arrested like a year later for the murder of two women in 1993. Like he got arrested in 98 for a murder in 93 for these two women. OK, Cheryl Lewis and Dolores Mack. But he was only ever suspected of doing other killings. He only ever went down for the two killings, even though there was like 26 possible victims on the list.

And a lot of them were sex workers. And if it is him, it's not all bad because another year after that in August of 1999, Elwood was sentenced to life in prison with hard labor, no parole, probation or suspension of sentence. So if that really if that really was him, he got bop for it. And that's all we know about that. We never that guy never got caught for sure, definitively. However, if you're looking for a crazy story

about a murderer with a happy ending instead of a sad one, look no further because now it's time for. Number 12, Teresita Basa. Yep. Is that it? Teresita Basa, Basa, Teresita Basa. I was saying Basa, I don't know if it's Basa or Basa. This next one is another one from Unsolved Mysteries. But beyond that, I want to say that it's even more,

especially strange for an Unsolved Mysteries mystery because this is another one about a murderer and a victim. But this case was already solved before they decided to make an episode about it because the mystery wasn't who murdered. The mystery was how they figured out that this person was the murderer. OK, huh? OK, so let's jump back to February of 1977 and meet the victim, Teresita Basa, in this bizarre tale, who was born in the Philippines in the late 20s,

but had lived in Chicago since the 60s, where she began as a music student before ending up working as a respiratory therapist at the Edgewater Hospital in Chicago at 9 p.m. On the night of the 21st of February, 1977, there was a call to put out a fire in her building. And when the fire department finally arrived and got upstairs, they found the flames were centered around Teresita's apartment. And unfortunately, they also discovered her body

naked in the apartment, lying under a burning mattress with a butcher knife sticking out of the middle of her chest. Uh, so it's pretty brutal. There was circumstantial evidence around that really made it seem like maybe she had been sexually assaulted. But weirdly, they did like a examination on her body, and they found no evidence of her being raped or anything or penetrated or any sort of bad stuff that could happen to her body in that way.

Didn't look like anything had actually happened to her, which left this as a crime with no motive and almost no evidence because most of it got burned besides a single memo, which was literally like a clue from like a Sherlock Holmes video game. It's a note that says, quote, get theater tickets for A.S. A period S period. And apparently this was enough to get the police to pursue a few different leads, exploring people with the initials.

A.S. has a possibility for having been involved with the killing, but they were never able to pin down whose initials they were. So that's basically where they left the thing for like five months until randomly one day out of nowhere. Another person that she worked with, Teresita, worked with, who was also happened to be from the Philippines called Remi Chua, contacted detective Joe Statula, which is a great name at Chicago. Yeah, detective Statula.

They they contact him. Remi Chua and her husband contact this detective, saying that she and her husband have some important info about the murder of Teresita Bassa, because for the past few months, she's been having visions and dreams where Teresita would come to her and beg her to go to the police and tell them the real story. So finally she did. And so she said that one afternoon she was taking a nap and randomly

somebody came over her in her sleep, where her husband said that she began speaking in another voice, saying that her name was Teresita and that she was killed by a man named Alan Showery, who was a guy who apparently worked as an orderly at the same hospital. Teresita and Remi both worked at, but when Remi woke up, she had no memory of anything that she said while she was unconscious. So her husband was just kind of like, you know what? Maybe she was just like

doing some weird ass sleep talk, dream shit where she was just like making up some weird shit. So I'm just going to ignore it because she I'm just going to see what happens. And then it happened again. This time, Teresita was mad at him and was like, why didn't you go to the police? And he was like, well, I'm not going to go to the police and tell them that a fucking ghost told me who killed somebody without some evidence.

So she's like, all right, fine. Well, how about this then? Alan Showery, the guy who killed me, took my jewelry and gave it to his girlfriend. So there you go. So the detective is going into this thing having heard this fully as skeptical as he should have been in this situation. He did a good job. He wasn't like, you know, being weird about this.

But his interest was peaked enough that he did decide to do a background check on Alan Showery. Sure enough, he discovers not only does this dude live extremely close to Teresita, but a couple of Teresita's co-workers said that they remembered him saying that he was going to maybe go over to her apartment that night and help her with her TV. So they brought him in for questioning. And he said, yes, he had been over there that night to do that.

But when he got there, he realized, oh, you know what, I'm here, but I left my tools at my house, so I'm going to leave again. And that's what he said. So that sounded super fishy to them. So at this point, the detective was like, you know what, fuck this. Might as well check out this fucking ghost tip. So he calls up this dude's girlfriend, who says, Alan, why? Yes, Alan had given her some jewelry recently now that he mentioned it

and that she'd bring it down to the station right away. And they bring it down and Teresita's family shows up at the station. They're like, that is her fucking jewelry. And this dude is literally caught red handed. Alan Showery is back is against the wall. He fully confesses. He says he did leave her apartment, but not because he forgot his tools, because he was like leaving to come back and rob her.

And when he came back, she let him in freely. She turned around to lock the door once they were both inside. He grabbed her from behind. And that's when he grabbed her and killed her and that the whole sex crime thing was something that he like staged to like kind of throw people off the trail of what he was really doing. But he took her, you know, some valuables or jewelry, some stuff like that. But somehow, even after he said all this to the police, he still pled not guilty.

The thing goes to a mistrial. Then he decides to plead guilty. And in 1979, he got only sentenced 14 years in prison for the murder. And he was out on parole four years later in 1983, out on parole. Um, but, uh, other than the intervention of what was allegedly Teresita's ghost, there was nothing else that led them to showery. It was only the testimony of a fucking ghost. And it was the first ever case on record

where the chief witness of the prosecution was an actual ghost. Like that's what they just said happened. And that's the story of Teresita Bassa. An insane story about wild. A psychic dream murder solving that really happened. That's really cool. I like that shit a lot because I'm making me curious, just like. Who did she?

Like, well, that's what I'm saying. Like, what the fuck is that? Direct the detective in that particular direction for those said they both worked at the same place. All three of them did. But like, what? Why wouldn't she just be like, I know this? She didn't want to get implicated.

Yeah. Wouldn't you? I mean, like, if you're a person who's afraid of being caught up in stuff, you could easily say, I had a dream that I knew this is what happened when maybe the dude just straight up told her. Because if you have trauma processing, yeah, it's just a wild plan. Like if I was if I was tasked with the idea of like giving someone evidence to solve a crime, but also not implicating myself in the crime,

that is not my that would not be my first attempt at that. You know, that thing is like, make me having saying a ghost certainly makes it more difficult to get the cops to believe you. That's what I'm saying. And then they have like, you know, evidence. So why not just open with that? Be like, send a fucking letter to the cops.

Be like, yo, look at that girlfriend's jewelry. It looks kind of familiar, doesn't it? You know, just like something like that. Yeah, I guess. I don't know. It's it's just it's just a weird weird. It's a weird one. And but yeah, we only have one more left. Let me just break the ice on something right now.

I saw someone comment that number 13 was going to be the broken house from the Green Stone. I thought that is a hilarious concept. But in case you were thinking that, too, no, that was not my plan today. I'm not going to be talking about the Green Stone today. But I do have a plan for the Green Stone. So, you know, that mystery is still a little bit of a die. But instead, for the last entry in today's part two

of the Weird Corners duology, as I call it, I wanted to continue the tradition of presenting Jesse with bite sized pieces of really hard to explain and really well documented evidence for the existence of aliens. And today is no different. So buckle up, dudes. Take it away, Jesse, one last time. You think this is the title that's going to get me? This is the title that that's this is the one.

Well, it must be real. Yeah, all right. Number third. I can't believe I have to say this. This is my whole plan with this. Number 13, Zimbabweleans. I love it. Fantastic job. Fantastic job. Zimbabweleans.

This is going to be the thing that convinces you that aliens are amongst us. Jesse, it's so much. This is a story that I've been wanting to fit somewhere for a while just because it's a really in your face story with a lot of crazy shit in it. But it's not quite deep enough of a story to carry a whole episode. So here it is. Courtesy of a Great Article from 2014. By Sean Christie at the Mail and Garden out of South Africa

called Remembering Zimbabwe's Great Alien Invasion. Christie Christie talks about how 20 years after these sightings happened in 1994 at the Ariel School out in a place called Rua, which is just like a small little agricultural center for that area. He met with someone going by Sarah, not their real name, who thought she was maybe the only one of the 110 witnesses that hadn't moved to Canada, the UK or died since. And everyone kind of thinks she's a crackpot,

but she still maintains it happens, the whole thing. So here's a quote from her for you to read, Mathis, just to get her version of what went down, because I think it's a pretty clear version. OK. And it's here. What do you want to know? Actually, it'll be simpler if I just shoot.

It happened. It happened. OK. It happened. OK, kids. Yeah, it happened. OK. Sixty two kids between the ages of six and twelve saw the aliens land and get out of their little ships. When the kids returned to class, they were completely freaked and couldn't stop nattering about little men

who looked a bit like Michael Jackson. Oh, no. No, just like the Prince alien. I think we talked about this in a mini so very briefly at one point, too. The teachers told them to shut up as teachers are want to do and classes proceeded. But the next day, the school received a bunch of calls from parents wanting to know why their kids were spooked.

They got so that the teachers started to freak out, too. And a local UFO expert called Cynthia Hind was invited to speak to everyone. It was via her, I think, that we heard about a famous shrink who was coming from the US to assess the children. What was his name? Now, Mac, Dr. Dr. John Mac, who I heard was killed by a drunk driver a few years back.

So, yeah, according to an article by Cynthia Hind, called UFO flap in Zimbabwe case number 95. We do love flaps. Yeah, the story goes that everything started in the late summer of 1994. Here's a quote for you to read, Jesse, from that article by Cynthia Hind, who is just like a ufologist. Who? Hold on, it's not showing up for me.

There we go. There he is. Wednesday, 14th September, 1994, was an exciting night for Southern Africa. Round about 2050 to 2105 hours. Pyrotechnic display of some magnificence appeared almost clear night skies of this part of the continent. Yeah, apparently, whatever these lights were, reports started coming in from astronomers nearby all the way to Zambia and Botswana,

saying that they saw some kind of meteor shower with dozens of reports mentioning some kind of capsule shaped craft trailing fire that was slanked by two smaller capsule fireball ship thingies on either side of it. Then reports of actual alien sightings started coming in there was a mom and her kid who saw some in the middle of the day, a trucker who saw some stuff by the road at night. And then finally, two days later on September 16th, 1994, the report came in from the aerial school, which Heinz refers to as, quote,

one of the most exciting UFO stories of this or any year. Apparently, 10 a.m., it was hot and the kids are out for like whatever, recess, nutrition, whatever it's called, when they were suddenly drawn to an area of, quote, long grass with thorn and other indigenous bushes, trees growing higgledy, piggledy fashion and undergrowth thick and heavy enough to hide a child should he venture there. All the teachers had already gone inside to have a meeting while the kids were playing.

And so the only person there to deal with this was whatever the heck a tuck shop mistress is. Don't know what that is. That's something. Sorry, a what? That's right. Tuck shop mistress, you know, that's from a style of school that is too fancy for me. I do not know what a tuck shop mistress is, but that the the tuck shop mistress mistress on duty was the one who had to talk to all the kids. They all came up to her like, yo, we saw like three or four disc shaped objects.

They came in along the power lines, landed near us, scared the shit out of us. What the fuck's going on? They look like Michael Jackson. What the fuck is this? And, you know, number one, that's really similar to what the Raylian said. The aliens look like that came to them, which is kind of interesting. But number two, since it was a school in Zimbabwe. There were students from a lot of different, like not just ethnic backgrounds, but like different tribes, culturally, totally different people,

all different colors and creeds who probably wouldn't have been able to all keep their story so straight just because of the amount of navigating of different communication walls that they would all have to go through to get that story coordinated. But the thing that's more interesting is like how they all have a lot of similar details, but they come from like different sort of like cultural layers on top of them. Like there's like some white kids who saw one of the beings and thought it was the gardener and got really scared because then they realized that they didn't have, quote, not they had like, quote, not really like a black person's hair

because he thought it was like an African person with like, you know, like the type of hair that people from Africa have. And then he saw that it was like weirdly long, stringy hair and it like disturbed him to his core. It looked like it didn't look human after a fact. And then some of the kids from the tribes thought that they were maybe some kind of like goblins from their like traditional folklore stories and got scared because they thought they were going to get eaten.

But they like both basically described like the same creature. And here is a quote from one of the witnesses who goes by Guy G. For you to read, Mathis, so so we can get an idea what we're working with here. OK, just in terms of physical appearance. Oh, no, Memento. OK. I could see the little man about a meter tall was dressed in black, shiny suit dressed in a black, shiny suit that he had long black hair in his eyes, which seemed lower on the cheek than our eyes were large and elongated.

The mouth was just a slit and the ears were hardly discernible. Very classic gray face kind of description. Yeah, very like clinical, very straightforward, very much what we would expect from an alien. Obviously, the parents were like furious and were not understanding at all. But Hind was able to get the story out eventually to this guy, John E. Mac, which is who that chick, Sarah was talking about, who actually was a Pulitzer prize winning writer who actually did die

in a car accident in London in 2004. And he went and talked to the kids because he was writing a book about this kind of stuff, and he told them they told him that the aliens were real number one. And then they told him that they had like dire environmental messages for everybody about like conservation and pollution and like specifically pollution and like not getting too carried away with technology, which is like a weird thing. I'm going to give you guys a link to a clip of it.

If you want to see the kids talking to Dr. Mac, which I always think is an effective way of making it seem real. You don't need to like watch it carefully, but just to give you an idea. And yeah, there's a lot to dig in here. If you like witness testimony type stuff and some of that more like new agey spiritual UFO type vibe. But really, to me, the most amazing thing here is that there was a huge flap of sightings, 110 people at one location all saw the same thing.

And that thing that they saw was pretty weird and it doesn't really seem like a hoax to me. So to me, this is one of those. This is like this is one of those like I'd say there's like a handful of experiences that are worth looking into when you comes into ufology or UFOs. Like this is way up there just because there's so many eyewitnesses. It just doesn't feel fake the way a lot of the other ones you start to have to. No, this one put on your blind is up there with Betty and Barney Hill for me. Like this is up there with like just the necessary UFO encounter kind of stories.

And it's up there with Roswell. It's up there with the Rendlesham Forest Forest, which is the UK's version of it. Like it's necessary. Definitely check this one out. It's very fascinating how real it seems from everybody. Yeah, there's too many moving parts back together. A few years like a test now, I think it's almost like 10 years ago. They got the kids back together as adults and they, you know,

have lived their lives and they all still describe everything literally the same way. And it's just cool. It's very interesting. Aliens are not. I mean, it's just a weird experience. Yeah, I mean, it tends to happen to before like alien, whatever you want to call them before these encounters. There's usually a couple of days of like constant UFO sightings before it happens. It happened in Roswell where like a couple of days before the Roswell crash, tons of people had reported a bunch of UFO sightings in it.

They all follow a very kind of similar pattern. Yeah, it's it's how do I do it? It's like it's like too much. Like moving parts. It's like if somebody made this up, it's like the work of like jigsaw. You know what I mean? It's like too much. It's it's the more people honestly, it's like the more people that are involved, the more likely the fact that it's a hoax will end up getting leaped by someone at some point.

Yeah, but yeah, it's not. It's cool. It's a that's a that for you. You alien enthusiasts go on to get into it's just such a weird story. Yeah, but also what also it's kind of like when people tell us stories on the reddit and there are little like grainy bits of like, well, that's just silly that make it seem more real that makes any sense. Yeah, because it's just like a weird detail that doesn't seem to matter.

And another thing that this version of the story lacks to is like sometimes when you read those ones on Reddit, there's like weird like story breadcrumbs that are being laid on purpose that you can tell are being laid to like imply certain things, you know, like dark soul style. You're supposed to like piece together a narrative by like reading between the lines, which this does this story doesn't have. This story feels very like random and like like just two things colliding that were never meant to collide.

It doesn't feel like somebody tried to tell me a fake story. You know what I mean? It just seems like exactly real things to happen. So that's that's why this one specifically is interesting to me. I don't pretend to have any insight into what the fuck actually happened. But this is the type of shit right here that really does. Like, you know, I have fun on this show. But like this stuff feels a little bit more convincing than some of the other stuff like this. That that's the kind of thing that keeps me like one foot in always with aliens.

This is like there's a million things that are just funny to laugh at and just like it's insane. But then like one in a while, these things come along and you're like, wait, what? Yeah, it just keeps you hooked. That's kind of what this whole episode has been for me is a bunch of little stories like that. But there you have it was a great time. Yeah. Next time it's an Alex episode, I'm going to do the crystal skulls. So get ready for that. Oh, all right. It's exciting stuff.

And today for the mini so I'm going to do yet another like weird internet mystery. This one was probably fake. I can't remember if I've done it before, so maybe it's a repeat. But who cares? It's going to be fresh to me because I don't remember it. OK, and look for it right after this. I'm patreon.com slash shillimanipad where dreams and reality are one. See you guys later. Yeah, well, thank you guys so much for watching next week.

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