Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 12 - Latin American Folklore and Legends

Episode Date: September 15, 2018

GET YOUR TSHIRT HERE - theyetee.com/products/chilluminati-logo We dive into the crazy world of scary ghosts and short men with big hats who like to braid some ladies hair. Soundcloud - @chilluminatipodcast Jesse Cox - www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - www.youtube.com/user/Thenation... Art Commissioned by - mollyheadycarroll.com

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Music Alright, um, we're gonna start up the podcast. We're starting now, but boys, I meant to bring this up last time, and I want to bring it up now. What? Is this, is this a retraction? We're, no, no, it's not a retraction. Is there actually no one on the moon? We have not done any need to for retractions at all.

Did we bring up something that might not necessarily be true on this part of life? Listen, adventure concern, wrong podcast, A. Uh, no, but not to go to Star Wars, like, new kind of book club style for a minute, but I know you guys have talked about it, and I texted you before, but I need to put this out in the world. Anybody who lives in California, Disneyland, needs to go do that VR Star Wars thing. Oh, yeah, that was some good shit.

That blew my fucking mind the entire time I was doing it. I don't, hold on, hold on, hold on. Is there a conspiracy theory associated with this? Well, are we actually, no, no. There, I mean, we can go out and open up lightly. Are you just, are you just like, pimping out like a really fun thing you can pay 30 bucks to do outside of Disneyland? 35 bucks, 35 bucks.

35 dollars. Worth every penny. It is the future. It'll blow your mind. That's all I wanted. But it'll also make you think like, if, if you can do this without, all you have is a virtual reality headset and a backpack. Everything else you feel in touch.

What's real, man? What's real? At that point, what's real? And it's all, it seems super real in front of you. You feel like you're in Star Wars and then you're not, you're just not, you're back in reality and it's boring. Except for the 20 minutes at the beginning where they tried to get Diego Luna to talk to us, right?

Oh yeah, Diego, Diego Luna, who's like reading, reading the script. He's like, watch out, rebels. We've got to get out of here. There's a Imperial block, Imperial blockade coming. I say whatever you want. I'm Diego Luna. I have a Diego for men in Star Wars.

Yeah. I just, it was a mind blowing experience. I just need to say it. I've never been more scared of a fake Sith in my life. The heat, the heat on your legs, dude. That was wild and being able to touch like the R2 droid. I was like, what the hell? This is nuts.

Don't, don't spoil it for people. It's amazing. In my mind, the only thing in my mind I was doing when we left the experience was like, how many rooms did we actually go back and forth between? That's what I'm saying. It makes you wonder how they pulled it off more than anything. Because I'm like, they couldn't have been more than two

or three rooms. It's like a laser tag sized area, I think. I think you just need to like come dressed for an escape room. It's similar to an escape room, actually. It's just like a really easy one, but it's like a stunning one. The thing, they have that also in New York, I think. I know it's New York LA. There's a Ghostbusters one that you can go to,

which I think would be super fun. That sounds awesome. All right. Well, I need to get that out of my system. You guys should go check it out if you have it, if you live in that area. It's super cool. Truly mind blowing stuff.

Star Wars fan or no, worth the check. 100%. And let's go ahead and get the pimping out of the way. We're on Spotify now, everybody. So if you listen, and if you listen on Spotify, you can go check this out. We finally gave in to those terrorist threats and moved to Spotify.

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Hey, how's it going? Thank you so much. You tuned in to hear us talk about weird sci-fi and spooky things. And instead, we talked about a Star Wars thing that you could do. So that's cool. Well, we only talked about it for like two minutes.

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I want one. I want one. Yeah. So that's keep an eye out for that. Hopefully this coming week. We'll have that up there. But let's dive in. What's our topic today?

What are we talking about? What's supernatural weird thing are we talking about today? It's a two. It's a two pronged attack. One, we're entering fall, right? It's time for the Spookies to come out and all the scary Halloween Halloween around the time for the Spookies to come out.

It's time for the Spookies to come out. Yeah. The Spooky sees a shadow is in Halloween for another six weeks. We all exactly. Yep. Yep. And on top of that, people have been clamoring for some of

the more weirder weirder shit that we've not covered in a little while. So the initial idea I had was female, scariest female ghosts of Mexico. That was a little that proved a little too niche. Yeah. Very specific, very specific one was because I was I had recently started watching hereditary and I was like, this

is creepy in the creepy. I got to see that movie and the creepy little girl was like super good. And I was like, I want to do like creepy like female ghost type things like that was my chain of thought. It was a failing. What about like freaky creepy kids? That's well.

Yeah. Well, we'll do that as a whole separate thing. I think at some point we got enough of those from like every horror movie from the last. Yeah, but like those are the best. Yes. Those are the best. The black-eyed children like that kind of stuff.

The fact that that's the star children movie theaters. Well, what is the star children is what Jesse like from the kiss like from like Paul Stanley. No, star children like space babies. You mean hybrids. You mean hybrids of the grace of taking our DNA for and creating their own star children and then they once every so while come back abduct the mother.

So they have a little human contact. The mother gets to breastfeed the star child. Yeah, like all that fake shit. Yes. Yes. Yes. All that all that made a big baby Dave sees at the end of that gets seeded.

Yes, space baby. Yeah, so I just decided to broaden the search and we're going to do like more Latin American spooky ghost stories and folklore great focusing on about four different ones. We're just going to talk about the legend behind them and some of the scary stories there. Maybe where they came from, depending on how much actual details in these particular folklore things.

Well, we're going to start with the first one that came up when I looked for Mexican Mexican ghost ladies, which was la la Rona. Hold on. Time out. Time out. Time out. Time out.

Our core research this week is just like googled scary Mexican lady. Is that what you did? That's how the research started. To get some ideas again. All right. My apologies in advance for this episode. What are you talking about?

I'm on board. I'm on board. I just okay. Sometimes you have to start really broad or really way too narrow and go out. What is the thing that Jesse's not saying is that he's always googling scary Mexican ladies and for all kinds of different reasons.

That's not. No. What? All right. Let's do this. All right. So first we have la la Rona also known as the weeping woman who is a ghost who lost a ghost of a woman who particularly

lost her children now cries while looking for them in the river often causing misfortune to those who are near and who hear her. She sounds familiar to me a little bit. She's usually depicted as a skeletal figure or a very pale kind of decaying figure draped in all white. Yo, okay. Walks around the river crying and looking for her kid.

But the legend is that while in that and rural rural village of Mexico. See there's the Mexico thing that I searched for. There it is a young woman by the name of Maria lived there. Maria came from a poor family but was known around her village for her beauty. One day an extremely wealthy nobleman traveled through her village but stopped in his tracks when he saw Maria Maria was

charmed by him and he was charmed by her beauty. So when he proposed to her she immediately accepted. So my first my first thing is like that he did they ever date or he just like see her proposed to the dating scene was a big thing like before 1950 like I feel like people weren't like date your parents would be like that one and then you're like all right. I guess so we'll just marry that one.

So this sounds to me like the like sort of like swamp like Mexican jungle version of like in jungle version of like you know the classic like haunted house woman in the window type ghost. Is that kind of like the vibe here. This is this is something that apparently has been done on American TV. But they're doing that culture is covered.

Yeah like American spin. So I guess it's got to be a game or two about this. Yeah. So on the NBC show grim. It was an episode where there was a woman very much like her who like the Halloween episode where she was trying to drown three kids in a river and the whole point was like trying to save those kids.

I guess in the very first pilot episode of Supernatural they had a storyline about a woman who drowned two kids in a tub and like that was her like ghostly thing and she went around trying to drown kids. So I guess the whole point of this is like it's a scary thing of like the mother who killed the kids and then now is going to kill your kids like that kind of story. She isn't.

She isn't. She even has a reference in League of Legends. Morgana has a skin that that goes to her. Interesting. What is it the La La Rona La La Rona and this is like this is like a creature or it's like a ghost of a lady when a woman loses her kids a La La Rona is created or is this like this is a specific woman.

Got it. Got it. Got it. She's tall thin spirit is said to be blessed with natural beauty and long flowing black hair wearing a white gown. She roams the rivers and creeks wailing into the night and searching for children to drag screaming to a watery grave. So she's going to kill your kids.

Now no one really knows where this this folklore the story began. We just know that it's been around for like a century or two somewhere on there. Wow. You're right about the League of Legends. They even have a figure like like an actual vinyl figure you can buy of this character portrait.

Yep. It's it's wow. She's pretty much everywhere. She's very very very popular. She was actually La La Rona was actually christened Marina Maria. So her name Maria that that that people use is kind of something they just gave her story is that her nickname.

Yeah, more or less. Yeah, that's her name. Her fans like Bloody Mary. She was born to a peasant family in a humble village. Her startling beauty captured the attention of both the rich and the poor men in the area and she was said to have spent her days in her humble peasant surroundings but in the evenings she would don her best white gown and thrill the

men who admired her in the local Fandango's. So she was a little she was a little nighttime entertainer but a visual entertainment only like to tease the boys at night as she walked around in a gorgeous gown and flaunt all of her womanly I do it. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie to you.

If I was gorgeous, I would be on the streets like look what up hater every day every day. The the other original idea had for this going into the like the scary Mexican ghost ladies at the end of the end of the episode I wanted to ask which one you would date but there's not enough ladies. So there's only just this lady. This one.

I would date this one. Yeah. Well, I feel like the others who are the others? There is no other female ghosts. Yeah, but like I don't know them yet. They could be like even if it's like a ghost dog. It could be like a cool cool dog. And I'm like, you know what?

Well, I don't want to date with that ghost dog jumping ahead but I think you're really like the last legend we cover because a chupacabra. I'd go on a date with a chupacabra. The chupacabra is going to be a separate topic because he's potentially a ghost. He's a cryptid or an alien. Well, he goes bigger.

He goes up all the way to the top. Right. Right. Right. Chupacabra would never date me is what you're saying. Right. I would do chupacabra. A chupacabra would never.

He's an A-list cryptid. Yeah, you're right. He is. You're right. There's a legend of the chupacabra being a failed science experiment that broke out. So anyway, beautiful. We'll continue with Lullaro.

I feel like I'm not a kid. I feel like I'm not a kid. I'm in the clear with Lullarona. Like we could just go out and hopefully just have a great sexy ghost times. We could make like Jack Torrance in the fucking hotel in the bathroom. Who knew what I'm talking about?

We could make a, instead of a smart child, we could just make a ghost. No, you don't want that. You don't want that in terribly for him. No. Yeah, but I mean, let's be real. She's a fucking dilapidated lady who drags children into the water.

So I mean, I'm taking what I can get. No, I am. I feel like scene started off pretty good. I feel like this is this. No, this is like, she's, she's a killer ghost. Yes. She kills children of children of children though. And I'm definitely like, I got too many gray hairs now.

Maybe when I started this whole YouTube thing, when I was a, you know, a young, sprightly boy, but you were still too old. Even then you were too old. She would, she would be like, pass. But what about when I'm young at heart? Maybe that's the true. Maybe that's the thing.

Maybe it's about young at heart. Willy Wonka is not safe. No way. No, he's going to get dragged. He's got too much childlike wonder. Yeah. If he, if Huell Houser wasn't already dead, he would have gone down from the La Llorona.

All right. Shall we continue the legend of La Llorona? Yes. All right. Yes. The young men would anxiously waited for her at night would anxiously await her arrival and she reveled in the attention that she received.

However, La Llorona had two small sons who made it difficult for her to spend her evenings out and often she left them home alone while she cavorted with the gentlemen. Oh, she's the bad parent. She's the bad story. She's a bad. This is one of those. Oh, this is like Maury.

This is like one of those girls who shows up on Maury. She's like, Maury, I go out and do what I want. He's like, why are you living your kids at home? Like they're old enough to raise themselves. Oh, hell no. She's the bad parent. She's not, she's not even a spooky girl. She's a bad parent.

Yeah. So you think she never actually died? She's a bad parent. No, she probably dead. But she's just a bad parent and a bad ghost. Okay, gotcha. All right. Well, the legend continues.

One day the two small boys were found drowned in the river. Some say they drowned through her neglect, but others said that they may have died by her own hand. Another legend says that La Llorona was a caring woman full of life and love who married a wealthy man, as I earlier said, who lavished her with gifts and attention. However, after she bore him two sons, he began to change, returning to a life of womanizing and alcohol, often leaving

for her for months at a time. He seemingly no longer cared for the beautiful Maria, even talking about leaving her to marry a woman of his own wealthy class. When he did return home, it was only to visit his children and the devastated Maria began to feel resentment towards the boys. Oh, so in this story, she killed the kids.

These are basically two stories that go with her. The first one is this one. Oh, so the first one, she's a terrible mother. She killed kids, but I want to help her out of her situation. No, no, no, no. The first one, she killed the kids because she's a terrible mother. Second one, she killed the kids because she's a terrible

person. No difference. Just, you know, different. It's like, it's like parallel evils. Yeah, I feel like you just shouldn't in any case kill the kids. I feel like the kids didn't do anything. Maria, what are you doing?

Maria Maria. Well, I'll tell you what she's doing. One evening as Maria was strolling with her two children on a shady pathway near the river, her husband came by in a carriage with an elegant lady beside him. He stopped and spoke to his children but ignored Maria and then drove the carriage down the road without looking back. After seeing this, Maria went into a terrible rage and turning

against her children. She sees them and threw them into the river as they disappeared downstream. She realized what she had done and ran down the bank to save them, but it was too late. Maria broke down into inconsolable grief running down the street screaming and wailing. So she kind of had like instead of like road rage, mom rage.

She's just every version of a dead kid lady like ghosts. Yeah, maybe she's the first question mark. I don't know. It's questionable. She's the first again. Nobody knows when this started sometime in probably at least the 1800s, but who knows the beautiful La Llorona mourned with the children that day and night during this time.

She would not eat and walked along the river in her white gown searching for the her boys like how even though she's mourning, she still went out on her sexy white gown every night just to you know, had to look good. Well, I mean, how many times can you walk along the fucking disgustingly muddy shorelines searching for dead children and still look good in that same white like that's not the color I would wear out into the fucking reeds and shit.

Funny you say that she would cry endlessly as she roamed the river banks and her gown became soiled and torn. When she continued to refuse to eat, she grew thinner and appeared taller until she looked like a walking skeleton. Still a young woman. She finally died on the banks of the river. Interesting. Not long after her death, her restless spirit supposedly

began to appear walking the banks of the Santa Fe River when darkness fell. Her weeping and wailing became a curse of the night and people began to be afraid to go out after dark. She was said to have been seen drifting between the trees along the shoreline or floating on the current with her long white gown spread upon the waters. On many a dark night, people would see her walking along

the river banking crying for her children. And so they no longer spoke of her as Maria, but rather La Llorona, the weeping woman. I keep wanting to like have sympathy for her, but I just like can't. I always like the one detail and it's like and then she lets him saying like there's the character of Maria. The La Llorona is not a good person, even though even in

the stories where she like had a bad hand out to her, her reaction is just like, what are you doing? Girl, what is happening right now? I guess that's what separates the men from the ghosts. You're probably right. You're probably right. And also serial killers. Yeah.

Well, I mean, is it a I mean, she she's like a really bad one-time murderer. Yeah, what do you call that? Like there's this like name for in law, right? A crime of passion or something along those lines. Yeah. So from there on out, the legends vary. The apparition is said to act without hesitation or mercy.

The tales of her cruelty depends on the version of the legend you hear. And some say that she kills indiscriminately, taking men, women and children, whoever is full enough to get close. But others say that she is very barbaric and kills only children, dragging them screaming to a watery grave. When Patricio Lugan was a boy, he and his family saw her on a creek between Mora and Guadalupe, Bita, New Mexico.

I tried to figure out who Patricio Lugan was and just a quick search didn't really show anything valuable. As the family was sitting outside talking, they saw a tall thin woman walking along the creek. She then seemed to float over the water, started up the hill and vanished. However, just moments later, she reappeared much closer to them and then disappeared again.

I would be fucking out of there. We brought it up in episode one of this podcast of like, at what point do you say, you know what? I'm out like immediately. How many times to see something horrifying to be like, yeah, I'm good. Which is why I never believe this stuff because the moment the moment that I'm like, this could be this specific thing.

If it's like a light or a sound, I'm like, what is that? But when it's like, oh, that's a werewolf. I'm like, I'm out. I'm out. Like, I don't care what it is. I don't care if it's not a werewolf. I'm out. Why stay?

Oh, I mean, yeah, exactly. Um, so as far as where she appears, I'm with them, dude. I'm with them. Is that a werewolf? I'm out. And obviously, you're like, that might be a werewolf. That thing I can see with my fucking eyeballs might be a werewolf.

I'm like, I don't care if it is. I don't want to risk it. I would take a picture with my iPhone X though. It's got a good camera. Like I would get in there and try and take portrait mode photo. Just so we can get a look at this and then I'd be out of here. But first, maybe that's why though.

You know what? If somebody was just like, why isn't this picture better? I would be like, I'm, I was scared. I was running the moment I saw it. I started running because I'm smart. You asshole. How dare you tell me to take a better picture when I was worried for my life from that werewolf.

What an oddly specific. Have you seen a werewolf? I'm not, I'm not confirming nor tonight. No, I've never, I've never, I've not seen a fucking werewolf. Oh my God. We, we have to go. We guys, we have to go like go something at some point. Fuck.

It's going to be bad. I'm so going to be us. Like the moment there's anything that happens. We're going to be like, great. And we're just going to drive, drive away. No, I will not drive away because it won't be real. Whatever you're like great about, I'll be like, that's not. There's not a ghost out here.

You're the dude in Prometheus who goes up to the alien and is like, hi. And then it like you, and then you're dead. Yeah, but I also wouldn't be the guy in Prometheus who lands on the alien planet and immediately removes my mask. He was like, I can breathe. Everything's fine. There's definitely not particles that could kill me in any way.

I would definitely end up as the guy who comes back with his legs folded over his shoulders and shitting fire on everybody or whatever the fuck happens. I remember that part of the movie. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's in there. You just got to go back.

The last little story we have of La Llorona and then we'll talk about where she tends to appear geographically in my dreams. Yeah. Well, maybe now, maybe now another story involves a man by the name of Epiphanio Garcia, which I fucking love that first name Epiphanio Epiphanio Epiphanio. Yeah. That is like the word Epiphone like the guitar brand like that

is crazy. He, the story involves Epiphanio Garcia, who was an outspoken boy who often argued with his mother and his father. You know what's happening to him after a heated argument. No, Epiphanio along with his brothers Carlos and Augustine decided to leave their ranch in Ojo de la vaca. I think that's how you say that anyway to head towards the via a real Dave Santa Fe.

However, when they were along their way, they were visited by a tall woman wearing a black Tepelo and a black net over her face. What's a Tepelo? I think it's like the little hat that goes with the thing. Oh, like the like the little veil in the inner hat, the inner veil hat. I think so, but I'm also taking a guess.

So two of the boys were riding in the front of the wagon when the spirit appeared on the seat between them. Oh, she just appeared by the way like in between them like what's up guys? Hey, how's it going? She was silent and continued to sit there until Epiphanio finally turned the horses around and headed back home at which time she said, I would visit you again someday when

you argue with your mother. Well, what sounds like a that sounds like a parent story. That sounds like. Yeah, absolutely. No story. Yeah, yeah. First of all, the kids didn't freak out. They just kind of turned the horses around.

It also sounds a little bit like the haunted mansion. When you're in the seat, a ghost will follow you home and you move to the side because that shows up in the mirror next to you. Yep. Yep. That's a great little effect. Um, that would fuck me up too.

If a ghost was just like right here, I would I would we would get in a car accident. I would you wouldn't just turn the car around and go home like these boys would be okay. I wouldn't be okay. Surprise. Yeah. Well, La Llorona has been heard at night wailing next to

rivers by many and her wanderings have grown wider following Hispanic people wherever they go. Her movements have been traced throughout the Southwest and as far north as Montana on the banks of the Yellowstone River. Where's my kids? All the way in Montana. And Pete, the Hispanic people believe that the weeping woman will be with them always following the many rivers looking

for her children. And for this reason, many of them fear the dark and past legend from generation to generation. Interesting. Well, okay. So this is La Llorona for you to me. This this has a list like a multi-leveled cautionary tale. Right.

So we have the story of the parents and be good to your kids, but also be good to your like kids. Be good to your parents or else, you know, you'll get your ass down in a river. You yeah. But I mean like seriously and also there is the multi-level of like stay away from rivers at night. Yeah, it's a cautionary tale as well.

So there's a lot built into this that I feel like it has that sort of vibe of oh yes, the creepy mom's going to come get you. If you're bad, that kind of thing that's built in there, but also like the other layers to it. So I feel like I get why this is something that has existed for a while because it's it's much easier than being like, why do I have to behave because I said so, right? It's like because this ghost girl going to kill you because

last time some kids fucking disobeyed their parents, their mom drowned them and now she's a ghost. I mean, yeah, that's kind of the moral. Yeah, what was the name of the place where that where the one that showed up next to them in the on the seat was? Oh, they were on their way to a village. They were down Oh ho Devaka. Yes.

Does that mean eyes of the cow? It's possible. I never looked up the translations of the name of a place. I'm just throwing that out there. I mean, I imagine back in the time, you know, maybe like naming villages after what you're good with. Maybe like the village was like very heavy and cow product or had many cows.

I don't know. Yeah, I'm the village of dead kids. The village of dead by the by the river. That's where that's where the butcher grew up, right? Actually, isn't there in the name of like some fucking isn't there some place that's just like similar to the La Llorona that's like with dolls? Oh, there is a doll like island dead kids in the river kind of

thing. Yeah, it's like in the swamp. I want to say it's out in like Louisiana ish area, but I could be misremembering for some reason. I think it's in Mexico, but you might be right. But I think I know we talk about dolls hanging from trees and nail to shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's a weird. Reminds me of this Japanese ghost. Actually, I forget the name of it, but it's like it comes to when you're in a bathroom stall and asks you if you want like a red cape or a blue cape or something like that. And if you say a red cape, it like slices your back skin off and like makes a cape out of it. Oh, or if you say blue like because you're like, oh man,

that kids or it's like slices you a bunch and you get like red red all over you and then the blue one is like, oh, you think that's going to be the good one, but then it just like strangles you to death like you get approached by this ghost and you're like, well, I'm dead one way or another. How do I want to go? By the way, Mexico has some pretty fucked up scary stuff. America's got some pretty fucked up scary stuff.

Japan is the weirdest. It's it's yeah. It's really weird. Well, the reason for a Japanese ghost is super scary is because a lot of the way the Japanese believe ghosts is that you're not able to understand what they actually want that their their wants are so alien and past you that it's just horrifying just weird as fuck.

Yeah, that's how I feel. That's why that's how I feel about that bathroom style ghost. I'm like, what? Yeah, exactly. Like what is what points this serve? All right, they're supposed to be in schools too, which is like fucked up. Oh, yeah, that's yeah, that's true.

A lot of Japanese ghosts are very like young and weird. Yeah. All right. The next the next kind of creature. This is not necessarily a ghost. This one is more of a creature and this one is called the Duende. If you want to follow along D U E N D E.

He's actually this particular creature is in a bunch of different folklore. He's an Iberian folklore, an American folklore and Filipino folklore. The Spanish term Duende originated as a contraction of the phrase Dueno de Casa or Duende Casa, possessor of a house and was originally conceptualized as a mischievous spirit inhabiting your house.

Now, like a legit version of Dobby kind of their way creepy you're looking if you look up like a weird. Yeah, I've already there's some there's a picture by Goya Duende Citos. It's it's there's fucking God. So depending on who you're talking to what they actually do is it varies from from kind of belief system to belief system.

So I'm just going to go through a story from San Pedro folklore. So this focus is more in Latin American folklore itself and you can see why this thing is a little weird creepy and the drawings of them are bizarre. So this this story is from 25 years ago by a person by the name of Angel Nunez. It starts with do not go to the bush to cut fire nor look for coconut husks or El Dueno de Monte will get you.

This is a common threat in the 40s and 50s which mom would use when she needed the children at home for some chores rather than going to the bush. The children of course preferred going to the bush for the thrill of some adventure. Can we cook again again going back to the previous scary story right. Yes.

Yes. There was clearly a time period in the world itself where rather than parenting it was much easier just to say like if you do that the monster will kill you. Yes. I think that's time is still now. I mean you're right. You're absolutely right.

But I feel like I think this is the time there were there was a lot of like little villages in the middle of the woods so people could go wandering out wild animals could get lost they get swept up in a river. Yes. I feel like kids wisened up over the years. Yeah to these games and so parents had to come up with more creative things but like yeah this is the equivalent of the

scary story of your face will stick that way. Yes which I was told by the way as a kid. So was I you were so was I don't make faces your face will stay that way. Yep. Exactly. I was told the one about where you jack off and your hands get covered in hair.

I've heard that one. I was never told that one. No one told me that no one. No I feel like that was a problem. And I was like really like fucking what seems weird as hell. I was like I was like I don't buy it. I'm gonna test that. I'm gonna test that.

Yeah. I'm gonna run some experiments. I'll let you know what happens. Yeah. I'll keep you posted grams. It's also important to know that El Duende has been been around since the very least mid to late 1700s. So this is a folktale that's been around for quite quite quite

some time. The children of course preferred going to the bush for the thrill of some adventure and not listening to their parents. It was not like it was not that they liked cutting firewood but hunting for bird nests and raiding the eggs was a thrill in and of itself because at this time good God there was nothing else to do. So it also meant it also meant drinking fresh coconut water

or hunting for cocoa plums or sea grapes which that sounds fucking delightful. Right. Great times. Great times. That sounds like something you do in Candy World. That doesn't even sound right. Candy World.

You said Coco Blossoms. It's like not a real Coco plums Coco plums is even worse. That's more. It sounds more like a cartoon and sea grapes. Yeah. Sea grapes. That sounds like you put grape seeds in water and they like sea monkeys.

All right. You know that's a bad. That's a bad. That's a bad line of thought. I was going to say I don't know how how we got. Let's let that one go. All right. A trip to the bush could also run you the luck of killing

some wild bird or a bush hog or even a deer. Now that was an indeed and then the ends that that sentence was with with that now that that was indeed a thrill. I feel like our wild hogs fucking dangerous though. They will gore you to death. They will you know that's what happened to what's his name Robert Baratheon. Right.

That's true. That's how that's how he died. Allegedly killed by a by a board allegedly or poisoned. Who knows. They do say bush hogs. I don't know if there's a difference but I can imagine it being a parent who living in an area where there's a lot of that kind of wildlife and having your little kids go

out there being gored by a fucking wild hog would be the top of my concerns. So have you seen that video of that little gnome in the woods. I've seen so many videos of little gnomes in the woods dude like and in houses. Have you seen videos of them caught in houses and stuff. I feel like this is that well that's that's literally kind of like what they are.

Well let's continue here. So how could mom's funny threats about El Dueno de Montes scare anyone and keep him out of the bush. El Dueno de Montes I'm just going to call him El Duendo from here on out was another name given to El Duende. God damn it. Those who saw him said he was about three feet tall again short and wore a wide brimmed hat.

Some times that short. That's like it's like weird like a yeah. Yeah. It's like for a little weird creature. Sometimes he wore a red hat and animal skins for clothing. Dad said that El Duende protected the animals in the bush and would get very angry when little boys killed birds without a reason.

Mom said he said one could kill a bird if he would eat it but to shoot one with a sling shot with a shoot one with a sling shot just to prove one's talent was wrong. El Duende was a daytime creature and would roam the bush and watch you mysteriously if you were killing animals. Sometimes El Duende would get tired and sit at the foot of a tree and fall asleep. He would transform itself into red clay.

Anyone spotting it would think it was some Maya artifact but if you took it home he would escape during the night. Therefore you can bet your sweet lip that if we found a clay figurine in the bush we would not even touch it. So that's where my mind as like just a person be like okay what were they finding in the woods that their parents didn't want them to bring home like what does that deter them from other than stealing things.

Shit like like animal crap dirty shit like you know you're in the woods like you're gonna be like mom I brought this and it's just like a big ass wet piece of dead wood that has like worms and shit in it you don't know to infest the house kid dude I used to live right next to wilderness and I would just go do dumb I would just be like dude look at this mud mom and she'd be like get the fuck out of here. What are you fucking doing I brought a bucket full of mud

home. I'm gonna go through it and watch it dry up if she told me to fucking 3 foot tall goblin in a fucking wide brimmed hat was going to like haunt me the rest of my days if I brought blood in the house I would never do that shit again. I love doing these episodes with you guys so much God damn love the crazy shit when we do this stuff common sense. Yeah but he specifically sounds like a clay figurine.

So maybe that's a problem I mean that's a maybe they're dirty maybe they've always got fucking black widows in them or some shit I don't know maybe maybe in the fucking South American jungle minor artifacts got to be fucking dime a dozen right. Yeah I guess it depends on where you live you could probably find a lot of like just left over like who doesn't have an arrowhead or two chillin yeah you're right you're right it's

possible. In case you hear that it's my automatic litter box. So what would happen if he caught you in the bush doing bad things well for one he would take you to his dwelling which was a spot deeper in the woods probably a cave but there was a way to escape him I like how like he just skips how like they don't talk about how he would bring you to the dwelling he just would he just would bring you there and you

just he just punches you like in dark yeah like you just do the new area do you're out yeah but there was a way to escape him he only had four fingers and no thumb so if surprised by him you could hide your thumb and in the palm of your hands and he would think you are one of his and he would leave you unharmed. In this respect Elduende was just like the Sissimito another folklore character in San Pedro most of the evil characters

are scared away if you made the sign of the cross with sticks or even your fingers but Elduende was not an evil character so he was not scared away by the cross in fact Elduende was a friendly character it only punished you if you were killing too many animals or doing mischief in the bush like jerking off I guess he would mean by doing mischief in the bush that's just my interpretation my personal interpretation he would be frequently spotted especially during the Lenten

season and especially on Good Fridays Elduende was identified by a piercing whistle and that was his weakness anyone whistling in the bush was a target of an attack by him that is why dad used to say never whistle while you're in the bush or you'll be calling on the duende to attack you. 25 years ago if anyone saw a strange man in the village and he would ask you to follow him you can be sure that no one did for the fear that he could be the infamous Elduende.

That's fucking weird yeah it's weird because it covers like don't don't follow strangers because they talk about him walking around on the village which I feel like is just good advice in general but that he's also not a bad character and that he's like a good guy yeah I feel like they never stick to landing with these cautionary tales yeah I always come up with a great like spooky image like the scary lady by the water who's going to kill you yeah yeah the fucking little gnome man

little gnome man but like then they're like well what's he doing there it's like he he protects it yeah so be nice or he's going to snatch your fingers off or something and they're like you're like what why they're like never mind don't worry don't do it bye don't bring those fucking figurines back home okay bye it's like you can feel like oh my god it's the Elduende look I'm one of you and then it's like oh you're right now there you're hiding you're hiding your

thumb you're one you're one of that's like what the kids made up to like make the scary less like the story less scary so right they added on to it like yo fuck your mom dude bring home whatever fucking clay shit you want just give him a fucking four sign and he's out protected bitch and some of the pictures of him actually have him having a thumb as well so it's weird it's like an old Mexican version of stranger things yeah and again Elduende that that whole thing is like

is a mix and it's also got to keep in mind too he's everywhere he's an Iberian line American Filipino folklore so like I'm sure a lot of them are mixing and and like what he actually does very it's like a Spanish it's like a Spanish language story yeah yeah all right Elduende Elduende so we've got one more shorter one before we get into the the one I'm excited just talk about because of how weird he is and that will cover the form that we plan on covering for this

particular episode that's this one is a it's kind of like the Spanish version of or at least the Latin American version of like a vampire this is Tlahuel Poochie I'm I forgot to get the shit out of that. Tlahuel Poochie? Tlahuel Poochie blood drinking sorceress of Mexico oh shit okay yeah let's go let's do it wait so this is sorceress a blood drinking sorceress so I do have other options besides La Llorona yeah well this isn't this is this one's not really a ghost

so like you could actually possibly bang this one fine okay I'm interested why is that where we're at why is that what we're doing that's where we started that's where we started I'm just keeping it I'm just keeping us full circle full circle no no this is I don't want to be a part of this circle okay let's keep going all right in rural Tlaxcala so Tlaxcala Mexico the vampire witches known as Tlahuel Poochie how do you spell this what is that doesn't sound like you're saying

it right how do you spell this TL AHUE LPUCHI that is exactly what it sounds like you're saying that's the name I'm sure he's going to look it up like how do you pronounce it there's going to be some voice that's like Tlahuel Poochie I really I'm literally I'm doing that right now I need to know yeah let's just figure out how to pronounce it Tlahuel Poochie Tlahuel Poochie Tlahuel Poochie Tlahuel Poochie I'm trying to miss oh it's apparently it's Tlahuel Poochie Tlahuel was close

I was close yeah I was close Tlahuel Poochie you just did like the like slo-mo yeah oh yeah I was doing the like word by like letter by letter Tlahuel Poochie Tlahuel Poochie all right okay so as I said they come from Tlaxcala Mexico the vampire which is known as Tlahuel Poochie are much fear perfect keep going thank you thank you Tlahuel Poochie at least a hundred legends of Tlahuel Poochie exist the Tlahuel Poochie was a person believed to possess magical powers

including the power to transform themselves into one of several animals and in that form attack and suck the blood of humans does it sound a little familiar boys this is sure a video game Bible this is a this is a game document design document pitch more specifically sound familiar to episode two we're talking about the skin walkers a little yeah yeah yeah right right that's all the same that's all the same shit right there that's the same yeah they and much like the skin

and much like the skin walkers the more power that the they could be of either gender but they're usually females and the females are way more powerful than the males apparently they yeah that yep 100% who are considered to be more blood thirsty and evil of the two as I was saying is that is that Sir Wallace yeah I had to bring Wallace in because he's he's getting a little too unruly it's alright he's adorable elements found in Tlahuel Poochie can be traced to ancient Aztec

goddesses their archetype was further modified to include influences from the witches of Spain when the country was converted to Christianity the witches of Spain sure yeah is that something I'm supposed to know about is that like a specific no I feel like this is it all seems to me very like patriarchal especially Christianity came in like a Christian Catholic society is very much seems like oh there's a lot of evil women and the women are the worst right

everyone so you know learn your place women like it says to like it was further modified to include witches for it with influences of which is from Spain when the country went Christianity route so the the the witch aspect or at least like that kind seems to have been added later in their lives so the 12 Pooches are born into their fate they cannot transmit or teach their powers to others so that's unlike other vampiric kind of lore especially out this way where

you can like other vampires can make vampires of their own their independent agents of evil but will do the bidding of higher evil forces such as the devil whoa nice how you know they're extra they got that's direct access they will only listen to higher evil forces the devil they got that dead devil on the speed dial they got that red phone in their house that they're like what's up devil what kind of bad shit you need me to do bro you got any of those demonic silencers you let

the amityville place borrow so it sounds like they kind of like started with a creature and they were like oh yeah that's the witches from the fucking anti God yeah pretty much let's say that's pretty much how they kind of came this the modern understanding of what 12 Pooches are at the very least kind of came into being when the when a 12 12 Poochie is born it cannot be distinguished from an ordinary infant differences do not emerge until puberty because of

course puberty when it turns bright red and gains to when the blood flows freely at which point a little nicky fangs no at which point they're supernatural powers such as shape-shifting suddenly manifest nope Jack ready for this next sentence Jesse no no for females this often occurs with the onset of the men's this nope nope not okay I'm not okay with the power of this is this is 1000% old priests trying to scare young people 100% this is exactly

what this is this is just period this is just like yes this is like what is it called now you're not supposed to call it PMS anymore PMS is outdated I don't I don't know I have no clue yeah I don't know all I know is exactly like yeah it's it's exactly like women are evil and they bleed from the vagina no talk to them yeah this 100% is is is the idea of like oh watch out for those young menstruating women they're evil they can't control their emotions so they're witches

that's exactly what this is this is just like the witch trials and Salem and all I like young girls are trouble you got to burn them in the state it's it's really interesting to that you bring that up because like one of the things that I thought of is like it's really it's really interesting to think of the similarities between the folk lords of different countries around the same time that they were both happening you know like though the witch hunts were happening at the

same time that 12 poochies were happening and they serve similar purposes but the differences in their lore are minor and it's cool that that like it's evil obviously the time but it's cool to see that there's a common thread that runs between all these different folk lords around the world it's interesting that this one is like no explanation it's just like oh it's just a bad right right right but did the devil's in there just a little bit he's the boss right and

of course so when the 12 poochies born it cannot be distinguished like I said from ordinary infant when the powers manifest the 12 poochie of both sexes begin to have a lifelong uncontrollable urge to drink human blood like a typical vampire would like you do yeah right of course I thought you were speaking directly to me I was like like I do well yeah just like Mathis right okay cool they will drink the blood of any human but have a marked preference for that of infants

between the ages of three and six months but no younger they probably younger no younger than three and six months you know but no younger than brand new basically it's like when you pick when you catch a small lobster and you have a throw back because it's not done growing like I will be back next month after you that's really honorable to that they're that they're being sustainable with their baby sucking they prowl about at night particularly between the hours

of midnight and 4am but will operate during the day of their blood craving craving is extreme 12 poochies are not out every night but only when they experience their uncontrollable blood urges which ranges from one to four times a month I like that's very specific they are more for one to four times a month they are more active during rainy and cold weather I can't okay what what you gotta you gotta let me know what you're thinking I don't it's it just it just

seems like it is using a woman on her period no but what it what it seems like is it's using every possible example of early I don't say early man because that seems like prehistoric but you know what I mean like like early like like not civilized but more like industrial age ish well it's it's it's it's where the farming stemming from the the medieval period of like the church controls everything in your life this is that that idea of just like there's a problem and this

is our solution to it and our solution by modern standards is freaking insane and so in this case you have examples of like mood and depression and like a teens growing into adulthood and anxiety and all the things that come along with becoming an adult and all the stresses and then them being like no but it's cuz you're a witch though right like oh you're having a bad like it's a rainy day and there's you're having a bad mood here they take your responsibility out of

it it's like right oh man yeah you're you're acting like a real tla poochie right now yeah we bring that back yeah I'm gonna bring that back what a real tla poochie right now yeah gotta add some stank onto it when you say it yeah but you're right you're right hard to yeah let's let's finish this up let's keep going with a 12 poochie here finding a 12 poochie to be among them causes families a great deal of unhappiness and shame the will the will to go to great lengths to cover

it up to avoid being ostracized by the community they will go to a great lengths to cover it up it said to 12 poochies cannot attack members of its own family unless they reveal their secret although 12 poochies cannot transmit their powers to others of their own volition if they are killed their powers go into the killer this place of the family in the position of reluctant of reluctant accomplices so it's if you kill them you become a 12 poochie which you're also like sounds

kind of awesome so it's all it's like don't tile don't bother your family with your period but you also can't bother your daughter for having your period and you also can't let everybody else in the village know because it'll bring shame yeah and it's like don't talk about it just killer though you're gonna turn into a monster so you can't do yeah don't don't kill her well that seems like the tacked on bit at the end right where it's like right right where it's like yeah

no this is a problem and you as a parent should deal with it but like don't like if she becomes a vampire killer don't like killer just you know sculled her for right having a poochie tell her to shame it hide it yeah hide essentially yeah hide the shame exactly so that's really what it is no for sure as we said earlier or as I was talking about earlier the can they can shape shift so my question to you boys is there is a common animal that these things turn into wolf

what do you think it is well for snake will for snake will for snake for Jesse I think it's like if we're like going along with this like weird like it's your period probably like a loud bird or a bat some some kind of obnoxious creature a blood sucking that's I'm going goose alright actually Alex you are the closest what damn it the most common animal into which these peacock or transformed into was a turkey boom wait what they would be commonly be turned into turkeys

that's how they shape shifted into turkeys but it's also known in stories to be they would also turn into possibly fleas cats dogs and buzzards I would never all nothing on earth could get me to turn into a fucking flea me either fuck that I'm out but that's a great way to get to animal spook but that but that'd be a great way to to say your blood thirst be a flea that's the worst animal spook imagine the middle face is on that animal spook between a human

and a flea what is the middle that's some gross shit but yeah turkeys turkeys was their most common thing to do the dumbest bird in existence just another roast on like ladies right absolutely yeah what is it what is this thing called again the Tla Poochie to L to L to L Poochie I'm giving it like a Southerner like stank on it now to L Poochie guy who plays Steve Merkel when shape shifted they are limited to the abilities of that particular creature and cannot make it

perform in magical ways with one exception that they can make the flea can sing they can make turkeys fly wow so fuck yeah I don't they're like an RPG creature they can just be like I'm a turkey except except extra bonus feature this out I can get out of here I suspect into flight when in animal form they give off a luminescence or a phosphorescence that is a telltale sign of who they actually are they steal into a home a steal into a home as a mist sometimes luminous again

kind of like a vampire that we know that seeps under doors and windowsills or through keyholes or they crawl in as an insect once inside they shape shift into a turkey or a buzzard and hypnotize the occupants into a sleep so they can carry out their tasks I just for me the you have some practical monster powers at least yeah to me though like the image of a late night on a full moon and this creepy miss is falling through under your door as materializes yeah as the

moonlight comes through the windows and highlights your in your room and as the mist comes together and solidifies before you sits a turkey a glowing glowing turkey and the turkey looks at you and it's like a hippo turkey yeah over time you're like oh god and you're hypnotized by the turkey turkey just pecs at your neck and just drink some blood it's great that is the weirdest shit I've ever heard I don't know that that is like a row that is like a roast come to life that is fantastic

I actually love it man it's so good the tall pooch you also have hypnotic power over individuals and cause them to kill themselves primarily by having them walk primarily by having them walk to a high place and jump they might kill or injure domestic or and farm animals and could ruin crops again which kind of shoe horning another excuse as to why either animals are killing their wildlife or a particularly bad crop rotation or something thus many type of misfortune

were attributed to the work of these witches for obvious reasons to tell Pucci lived incognito in the communities belief in the tale Pucci is widespread in Mexico and continues to this day in rural areas. Cases of tell Pucci attacks have been recorded in modern times some resulting in the trial and execution of the alleged vampire as recently as 1954 the state of Tlexcala passed a law requiring that infants reportedly killed by witchcraft had to had to be

referred to medical authorities while in almost every extended till Tlexcala family there will be reports of multiple blood suckings over the course of generations the accusations of blood sucking witchcraft that results in trial and execution historically have not been common and have declined considerably since the late 19th and 20th centuries. Is there anything magic about what happens when you get your blood sucked or is it just no they just drink your blood.

Feeling good and the last the last known execution of tell Pucci was a woman that occurred in how how late when do you guys think the last execution of a woman was 1999's where was it. It just says the all I have here is the last known but again think of it's probably it's in Mexico Tlexcala probably 1999 1974. Once again Alex you were off by one single year. 1973 was the last time a woman was put to death for being

accused of it's all Pucci which is now I feel like a bad person because I thought it was more recent. All right. But still though that's the 70s is still like not that long ago like God damn and they just killed somebody for being a witch. Did they talk about how it was done and like the circumstances for the sake of like being able to cover a few of these things that didn't go super into detail about

everything. So no I don't have any details on why I'm sure you could find it though. It's like a modern day witch trial that's crazy. Yeah. So the awful to be stuck caught up in that. Oh my God agreed one hundred percent. All right. The last one the one I'm most excited for because the weirdest is the M L sombrero. What L L sombrero. Okay. Yeah. If you want to look up to make sure I'm spelling saying it

correctly it's no I feel like I feel like we all understand the concept of the hat probably probably a dude wearing a hat a guy like yeah wearing a hat. Sure. Like so the L sombrero is in the folklore and of Guatemala where he's most famous L sombrero is a legendary boogeyman figure who also appears in other Latin America countries such as Mexico. He is also known by other names such as Zizimite Zipit Zipitio and quite simply the goblin but generally appears as a short

male dressed in all black. He wears a thick black shiny belt and black shiny boots that click when he walks on his head he wears a large black sombrero hat. He often has a yes. I think this I think David Blaine might be one of these very possible. He often has a horse and will braid its mane and tail. His favorite occupation is to court young ladies who have large dark eyes and long black hair which he likes to braid for her. He will serenade and play his

guitar for her but will also play soil on her plate and she will have problems eating and sleeping. Why the fuck wait what you said the last thing that you said seems so weird. He's like dating or dating or dating her and then he's like and is this like he throws it on to their plate. He will serenade her and play his guitar for her but will also place soil on her plate and she will have problems eating and sleeping like on to her roast chicken just on to her plate dude just like some

soil on her plate. All I'm saying is it doesn't take a magical creature like if I was out having a wonderful dinner with someone and then they just grabbed a fucking clump of dirt. I would have problems eating it and I would be like laying up in my bed at night being like why the fuck did that happen. Why in the middle of a wonderful eating. Yeah why did that happen. God he was he was it kind of cute. He could sing. He plays guitar so weird. That's a betrayal. It is a betrayal.

His favorite time to appear is at dusk when he can sometimes be seen leading a line of four mules around the city or its urban districts. When a girl responds favorably to his advances he will tie his mules to her house and begin to serenade her by singing and playing his guitar. Sometimes he will even dance for her. It is like that MMO character who has too much inventory. So he has four mules. He's following him around. It is said by some residents of porquilla vieja

and la recon recollection districts in la antigua in la antigua Guatemala that when there is a full moon he can still be seen at times wandering through the streets. I still don't understand the lesson. I get the lesson here. So so what this is this is like a a dark of the sexy man. It's a dark mysterious man who will do anything he can take care of you and he he's flirting with you but he only is like attracted to and when you say like when you describe

this person you're describing sort of like a very attractive like young Hispanic girls kind of what you're describing for the fucking dirt bit. No no no I'm not saying like every that's not what I mean like you know what I hear everyone loves eating dirt. No what I'm saying is like it's the idea of saying to the two young women young girls that like this guy if this dude becomes attracted to you only bad things will happen to you right. So what it does is it takes

it tells young girls you know don't be modest I can answer yeah be modest don't you know be coy around men don't like flirt with dudes observe the cultural norms yeah right like don't let dudes touch up on you don't do any of that stuff and basically it's another obey your parents allegory or if you don't bad shit will happen to you that's kind of what it's getting at. Yeah we're actually going to go through two little stories and then at the end they're actually we

I was able to find the lesson specifically he was created for which Jesse is pretty much spot on so these stories in the lesson actually comes from a man named Evan Evans just so people know where I got these particular stories from and let's first talk about Susana one legend of L some brown tells of how a young attractive woman named Susana from a lot like that reclose on by the strange and her spirit Susana was a daughter of a woman who was the owner of a

local store. She was very pretty with long dark hair and big hazel eyes. One pleasant summer night she was sat out by her on a balcony watching the stars come out when she was approached by a rather short man dressed in all black wearing a large black sombrero hat. He was carrying a silver guitar slung over his back. Very stylish. He stood below her balcony looking up to her and he sang and strummed his guitar and she fell under his spell. Luckily her mother looked out and called her inside but from that moment on Susanna could not get the strange man out of her mind. In fact he would appear out of nowhere either in the house or outside and begin playing his guitar and singing to her. Sometimes he would begin to braid

her long dark hair while he appeared helpless to stop him or while she appeared helpless to stop him rather. Strangely each time she was given a plate of food it was found to be contaminated with soil. It made no difference who prepared it or who served it to her. It still became contaminated preventing her from eating properly and her health began to suffer. Eventually her worried mother cut her hair and took it to the church and asked the priest to soak it with holy water and pray over it. The priest did as he asked and after a few days the strange little man stopped bothering her. What is the deal with the dirt? It's like a way for her to suffer. It's kind of like his punishment. Of all the fucking bad things that a man can do to a woman out there. Is like weirdly starved her?

Sprinkling a little bit of fucking dirt in her food is like a weird ass thing. Am I off base on that? Is that like super weird? I find it really weird but I mean at the time that it was happening maybe not so much like I don't know. That doesn't scare me. Right but it's not supposed to be a terrifying thing. It's supposed to be like hey you don't want this bad stuff to happen to you. It's like fur on your hands. Like hair on your palms. It's not terrifying. It's just a bad like what a weird ass thing to happen. It's something that a parent would say they're not trying to destroy their child. They're literally just trying to make them do the thing they feel is right. Yeah but like hair on your hands I'm like obviously I don't want hair on my hands because it'll be a

telltale sign that I've been jacking off. I don't want to go buy the water because the woman's going to drag me away and kill me but like cigarettes I don't smoke because they're like it's going to turn your lungs black and you're going to die of cancer. You know what I mean? Like that's a reason that's like a warning. That's a good reason you shouldn't do something but like so many people smoke anyway that I feel like people would just be like oh it's a little dirt. God made dirt. Dirt don't hurt. Dirt don't hurt. Or is it like a magic dirt that saps away your life? No I think it's just a lot of dirt so it makes you not want to eat the food like it makes the food unappealing so you waste away. Yeah exactly well actually this last this last story

is just a short of the last one we'll show you what happens if you don't ever break a spell. So another legend tells of how one village girl went out one night to sit on her balcony and enjoy the light of the full moon. She was surprised to hear the sound of a guitar playing and a soothing voice singing a beautiful serenade. Remember me. Looking over the balcony she saw a strange dark squat figure in a large sombrero hat. Why you gotta be squat. I didn't write the story. No reason. Yeah it was wearing a large sombrero hat playing a silver guitar while singing up to her. Struck by the music and singing she listened but was disturbed by her mother who heard and knew who was coming out there and came out and called her in quickly. However it was too late for she had

fallen under his spell and every night the strange man in the big hat would appear in serenade her keeping her awake all night long so that way she couldn't sleep. One night he climbed the balcony and entered her room and began to braid her hair as she sat spellbound. Tradition says that once he finishes the first braid she would become his bride for eternity but that never happened in this case. Although she was under his spell unsombreron likes to keep moving from one girl to the next and he grew bored with her and moved on to another victim. Although he has them under rather although he has them under his spell rather than marry them he prefers to throw stones and dirt in their food so they cannot eat and slowly starve and die of a broken heart.

I see what's going on here. This is what happened to that poor girl and do you want to give you what you think the lesson is and then I'll just read what the lesson supposedly is. It's never it's just like that's never as good of a deal as it seems like. That dude's gotta have girls on the side. He's too good to be true if he shows up in the middle of the night with this. Yeah the too good to be true is kind of like the lesson that I feel that I would walk away with from this as well. Sure. The legend of El Solbreron is a warning to young girls that moonlight and music can easily be used by men of bad intentions as a means of seduction and to remember and uphold the traditional family values and the standards. It's like I was saying it's a warning. It's a

parental warning. It reminds them that courtship has certain rituals and rules that should be obeyed and followed rather than fall for the charms of mysterious strangers on dark nights under a full moon's light. There you go. There you go. Not bad advice. I guess. I guess. It's obviously super outdated. It's just what I find fascinating. I don't know. I don't think the idea of being wary of like creepy dudes showing up and being like I love you. Let me take you away. I feel like that is always good advice to be like watch out for this guy. Just just take stock of your fucking situation and see if there's really love here. You know. Yeah of course. Don't let the braids and the shiny belt and the little guy in the big hat. Don't let the size of a sombrero on sombrero trick.

It's just interesting to see like what kind of like weirdly improvised creatures people made up to teach the lessons instead of just teaching the lesson. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's what I always find fascinating about these things. And the same thing with like skin walkers when we covered skin walkers was like they exist. You know like we want them into exist as weird cryptids. But like you can see the roots of where these things came from and why people are too stupid. People are too stupid to just not do dumb shit. They need to be lied to to be scared to be scared straight like that TV show. Yeah. We're too stupid to make a good decision on our own because you know why we love braids. We love shiny belts. That's the type of shit that we're all about. We can't love

having your long hair braided. I do. I do. I do. I do. It feels great by strange squat men under the moonlight. I don't like to wear it out but having my hair braided and rebraid it all night long feels like a great relaxing time to me. I don't know. I don't believe that. I don't know if I trade it. I don't know if I trade it for dirt in my food every time. I'll be like what are you I'll be like what are you doing. No. What are you doing right now. Let me see your hand. I'm just putting no putting dirt in your food. No. No. That's right. I order Uber Eats. You go stay in the bathroom. I just want to eat. I know you're driving. I'll put food. I'll put dirt in the food. I'm the one with the job. I know. All I do is stay outside your window

and play guitar all night. You're homeless. Where did you get those clothes? How does that horse like you? What do you feed it? God damn it. Dirt. Everything likes dirt. My horse likes dirt. He braids his horse's hair. It's good enough for my horse. It's good for you. I don't know why he's like turning into Christopher Walken. Yes. That was fun and just like that an hour and some odd minutes is already done boys and that's the four that I decided to go with. God bless us everyone. Beautiful. I felt like we had a lot of very heavy intense episodes these past few months. It was time to lighten it up with something silly and something fun and still something in my opinion very interesting because again it's that whole exploration of

these creatures and why they were made up and how weird they are. You got your typical scary ghost lady who's going to kill your kids and then you have like a dashing goblin man who will serenade you and feed you dirt. I've got a couple weird ones in my pocket that I could pull out. Now that I've heard these I'm like rethinking what I want to do for my crazy The Alex episode. I've been trying to hit that crazy. I thought the Beatles was going to do it but you guys thought the Beatles was dumb. That's not what I mean. I just feel like it didn't blow you away the way I wanted it to so I'm still trying to find that crazy story nobody's heard of. I'm chasing that dragon. All the stories you've brought forward that

to mom should one is my favorite I think just because it's just unanswered questions That's definitely a night time that you could just go down a hole the whole night. Yeah 100% but that wraps up this particular episode Jen so I can't you know I can still ask the question who would you date? You had to pick one. I'm going to go personally with the witch the blood sucking witch. I would go with the sombreron because I feel like I could use a little less food so I'm alright. I'm a millennial. I'm sticking with the ghost who kills her kids. I feel like that's very on brand for me. I don't. How is that on? No kid. You shouldn't have kids when you're a millennial. Okay got it. That's all.

And then she'll take care of that for you. Yeah I mean look I'm not saying she should kill any kids. I'm just saying I'm 30. I don't have any kids. This is a good match for somebody's trying to date a water witch. I'm going with the blood sucking witch because first of all she could turn into a turkey which is kind of crazy. And a flighted turkey too of all things. That's true and if worse comes to worse I can kill her and get her powers. That's right then you could be the turkey man. Right. I can sneak into your house as a mist form up as a turkey. You'll know it's me but it'll be too late. I'll be like Mathis what the fuck I told you not to do this. And then I'm going to be like I'm going to jump off the cliff. That's it yeah. He's gone.

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