Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 135 - (20)22 Alex Mysteries Part 2

Episode Date: January 13, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:57 As always, I am one of your hosts, Mike Martin, joined by the Leon Kennedy and Claire Redfield of LA. Oh, I'm Claire. I don't care what anyone says. I'm Claire. I was gonna say I'm Leon, so it's good. We're all good. We all get one, all clear. That was perfect. That was excellent.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Excellent. Yeah, welcome back to the Chiluminati Podcast. You should know if you listened to last week's episode, this is out of our hands already. So, whatever Alex does, just it's up to his email him, blame him, tweet at him, listen, read at him. I've just been into symbology a lot.
Starting point is 00:01:32 What? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Twenty two, twenty twenty two. This is not episode 135. This is episode twenty twenty two part one part two. The Revenging.
Starting point is 00:01:48 This is part two of part one of a two-parter that became a surprise two-parter right in the midst of itself. Two's, guys. Two's. Two's on two's. Right. Two's on two's on two's. Yeah, two's on two's on two's. And if you have too much money, head over to patreon.com slash chiluminati pod where you can get rid of it on our behalf.
Starting point is 00:02:11 And it will help us out and it will keep our show rolling and it'll keep the laughs rolling in to your ears, which you guys probably like. And this shamelessness literally made my eyes water. You know what? It makes me lots of money each month. And I like that about it. So head over to patreon.com slash chiluminati pod and you can keep this show a floating right along.
Starting point is 00:02:36 That's all I'm saying. I'm excited. I'm excited because it's a good show. I'm excited because I started off doing this as a cute idea. And I thought these were going to be like short, concise, quick. You know what I mean? Short, concise vibes. And five hours later, here we are. And instead, yeah, we're instead, we're in part two of part one. Right. And next week.
Starting point is 00:02:57 So next week is part one of part two, right? Part one. Is that part two? Part one. How many more do we have of these? Wait, there's a part two. There's a part two. This is the end of part one today and the beginning of part two starts next week. There's a part two and and and maybe it'll finish the very next, the very same week.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Who knows part two to twenty, twenty, two tiny mysteries. There was a part one was going to be one through eleven. And then it ended up being a little longer than I expected. And now it is part. How many do we get? How many do we get through in the first one? Six. Six. Oh, my God. Yeah. You know, it's a. It's a first or clean, remember?
Starting point is 00:03:40 And that was a list within a list, within a list. If you think about it, which is also in a list of episodes, two. That was what you're doing is you're creating a podcast representation of what the fourth dimension looks like. Yes. Yes. And speaking of representations of things from the fourth dimension, I'm going to tease that there have been some mysterious trail cam entities captured this week in the news. So if you want to head over to patreon.com for real and become a part of our
Starting point is 00:04:13 little mini so that's the mini so that's coming out this week. I'm going to talk about some wild. One of them is like going to make Jesse laugh a lot. And the other one's going to make us all go. Oh, before before we we get to this, I want to say at the top here, if you want to get like weird vibes and you have like a free week or free weekend, totally unrelated, they have not paid me to say this, but I'm in the thick of it.
Starting point is 00:04:37 So now I'm forcing it upon you two and the audience as well. Go on Netflix. Oh, I know what you're going to say. So we can get real weird with it. Go watch Silent Sea. I think I've never heard of watching a man fall in love in real time on Twitter last night or whenever that was, I'm going to pitch you the idea. I'm going to pitch you really quick. Here's that. Here's elevator pitch.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Pitch me. It is a Hollywood executive. Some indeterminate time of the future and water on earth is drying up rapidly. The people of earth are desperate to try and survive and stuff, but it's very obvious that the richer you are and the more important you are to society, the more water rights you have. They're little cards and everyone's trying to get like a gold card or probably a platinum cards.
Starting point is 00:05:20 They can get more water, right? OK. And, you know, there's various weird diseases and all these different things going on. It's it's pretty much a hellscape on earth. Meanwhile, an expedition was sent to the moon and this one girl's the main character's sister was on that expedition. Something happened. Everyone died. Everyone died on the moon. And now a group is being sent to the moon to get back a sample of something
Starting point is 00:05:43 that is up on the moon that is very important. And she is part of the team going to the moon to go retrieve this. And I will simply say here's here's the best way to describe how they shoot the show because it is like a mystery slash sci-fi thriller slash like maybe horror. I don't know. Here's a great example. It doesn't end up to be like a pebble, right? Here's here's a great example of how they shoot this show,
Starting point is 00:06:08 which sums up perfectly. It's so good. The main character, the main woman is walking down this hallway and it's like a creepy like, you know, flickering lights and the whole crew is there walking with her. And she notices down a stairwell, a pitch black stairwell. And she turns to face it and the music is like, wow. Like it's weird and she's looking at this and you're like, what the hell's down that stairwell?
Starting point is 00:06:29 What is this? And the camera then is from the bottom of the stairwell looking up at her. So now she's like in a little black square and it's like really weird and like what is going on? And then, you know, one of those cuts where one of her guys is like, hey, anything what's going on? She's like, oh, nothing turns to walk away. But the camera is still down in the hole of the stairwell looking up
Starting point is 00:06:48 and then slowly moves behind one of the walls. Like, was that someone watching her or is that just a camera? It's that kind of cinematography. It's so I do like that. That does sound really, really good. Yeah, it's not what you said. And I want to see Yellow Jackets. I heard Yellow Jackets was really good. All right, guys, I watched in Kanto. That was really great.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Hey, I mean, you know, if I if I had to pick one movie off the list of movies that you have a fucking scene, I don't think I would have picked in Kanto, but I hear I hear it's delightful. Yeah, it's very delightful. It's very cute. I mean, I hear it's not a generational trauma. It's I'm sure that's literally that was the whole movie. Have you guys seen the Bob and David sketch about rooms, the musical? No, it's about like a house where the rooms sink to each other.
Starting point is 00:07:32 That sounds great. Yeah, I watched. I didn't see the whole in Kanto, but I saw like a little bit and that's what reminded me of any way. Content warning today, guys, no spoilers. There's going to be adult themes, graphic violence, murder, sexual abuse. So please be kind to yourself and proceed at your own risk from here on out because you are now in boom, adult waters. We've got more dark as the show is going on.
Starting point is 00:07:56 You know what? This we definitely we're getting like not brainwashed, but radicalized. The more we the more we stay here, the more we're like, look, we can only do happy aliens so much before the kids are going to get interested. From now on, we've got to do all violent alien abductions and we got to do all the things where we will murder each other. Like the kids are going to need more of that. You've got to follow the numbers sometimes.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I just like to play violence. I just like to plant a little dream in everyone's heart. You know what I mean? Shoutouts to care eleven dot com, Rollingstone dot com, the verge dot com. A.W. Naves on medium, the Denver Post, you slash unresolved mysteries. And of course, the real one, Wikipedia dot com, which would be a rough list of sources for a journalistic article. But as always, I want you to know I see the episodes that I write for the show
Starting point is 00:08:46 as a sociological exercise or a cultural study that more and more so that than being something that's 100 percent accurate to history, you know, and while it may not always be from a confirmed source, rest assured that I am indeed a smart and well-reasoned human person and included every piece of information that I only agree to thinking about it. Matter like that. I'm just saying, you know, I want you to understand the spirit with which I'm approaching this.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I like to keep Jesse. Don't don't say my name like this is my fault. You're in charge. This is this is you write this ship, right? This ship. He is at the helm and I have my hands have been bound and I am thrown in the break. I can't do it. Sometimes you got to acknowledge
Starting point is 00:09:30 what's fun about this this information stuff. You know, you got to keep it lighthearted. Anyway, number seven, house fire. Let's take a second to talk about a bunch of kids who tragically burned to death in a house fire or did they? Oh, oh, the plot of Little Hope. Yeah, sort of. OK. So, look, this brings us to no, actually,
Starting point is 00:09:50 fuck Little Hope, can I just say that? I don't care who wrote that. You know, it's not, you know, I'll respect whoever wrote it. You're not a bad writer. You just took a swing and you and you missed. It's a bold. It's a bold one. Is that that? Is that that like Man of Medan game? Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Is it OK if I spoil it? Dude, you it's a dream. It's a dream. Oh, no, it's a twist. It's not even a dream. It's not even a dream. It's like a crazy man's delusion, which is like even worse than a dream. Anyway, don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:10:21 This is not a dream. This is not a delusion or is it? Sometimes I wonder. Yeah. Yeah, we we are in Fireville, West Virginia. It's Christmas Eve. The year is 1945. The Sotter family home burned down in a house fire. OK, George and his wife, Jenny,
Starting point is 00:10:36 lived in the house with nine of their 10 kids with them, but only four of them were able to officially escape the blaze. So they walked out of the house with only four of their nine fucking kids. However, the bodies of the other five children were never found. And for several reasons, I'm going to get into right now to this day, relatives of George and Jenny Sotter are still out there
Starting point is 00:10:59 who are convinced those five kids survived and continue to search for evidence of what happened to them all these years later. This is a legendary story. Well, man, this is the difference between being positive and listening to this podcast. I when you said that, I wasn't like, oh, they must have survived.
Starting point is 00:11:16 I was like, they killed those other kids and the house fire was clearly the distraction when they buried those kids out in the woods somewhere. And they were like, oh, no, they died in the fire. That's what I thought. No, that's for Mathis to do over slowly over four episodes to like make me aware, not only of just the depths of human depravity, but also just societal problems that have plagued us
Starting point is 00:11:36 that we will never escape from over hundreds of years. I can't wait to do John Wayne Gacy next, everybody. It's going to be great. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That is like a song today. There's a song that Sufjan Stevens does about John Wayne Gacy that like makes me feel bad when I hear it. All right. Attention, residents of Salt Lake City
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Starting point is 00:12:58 Here we are. We're back in the house where the kids burned alive in the house, keeping it light, keeping it light. Maybe they're not dead, though. That's the thing. And their family for years and years and years has been keeping this dream alive. So, you know, this I take it with a grain of salt,
Starting point is 00:13:14 but I ask you to approach this with some an open mind. According to the official story, the fire was caused by faulty wiring, OK? But pretty quickly, George Sodder started having lots of questions, like if it was an electrical fire, how could the Christmas lights have stayed on during the fire? Because it was Christmas Eve.
Starting point is 00:13:32 How did the ladder that went missing the night of the fire end up 75 feet away in an embankment? And why did the telephone guy tell them their phone line had looked like it was cut rather than burnt through? And who was the mysterious thief that they arrested for cutting it days before? You know, why is there no identifying record
Starting point is 00:13:53 of who this man was? And why would a thief cut a utility line during a burglary? You know, they found they found a man who they arrested a man for a burglary who cut the phone wire. You know, it's pretty and he, you know, just little things were starting to add up for George that made it feel a little weird. And then a few months later,
Starting point is 00:14:15 a bus driver comes forward saying that that night as he was driving his bus past the Sodder house, he saw people throwing, quote, balls of fire at it. And if he had come, what? Yeah, he said he saw people throwing balls of fire at the house. If he had come for earlier, George Sodder might have connected it
Starting point is 00:14:32 with the thumping that he heard that night on the roof. Like this guy told him he saw the balls of fire and he was like immediately was like, that was the thumping that I heard that night. I wasn't sure what that was because nobody told me those fucking balls of fire flying at my house. That's what his wife heard that night.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And he was thinking about it again once the snow melted because his youngest daughter Sylvia found a small green rubber ball-esque thing in a bush nearby that he said looked like a, quote, pineapple bomb. And once things started picking up again, more and more people who came to stare at the fire that night began putting two and two together
Starting point is 00:15:09 and remembering things from that night that were kind of weird. Because remember, at the time, none of them knew that there was like five missing kids and that maybe they should be looking out for these kids, right? They were just there being like, oh, my God, what the fuck happened? What is this fire?
Starting point is 00:15:22 They weren't like thinking like, what about the mystery of the missing kids? Because there was no mystery yet. One woman said that she saw a car with Florida license plate roll up to her rest stop, which was between Fayetteville, where the Soldiers lived and Charleston and served breakfast to the kids.
Starting point is 00:15:38 And another said that she saw the missing kids watching the fire from inside of a car at the scene, but didn't think anything about it at the time because she thought maybe they were just safe and in the car, you know what I mean? Like she didn't know that there was like the possibility that they could be in someone else's car, right? And then sufficiently suspicious at this point,
Starting point is 00:15:59 they hired this guy, C.C. Tinsley, great name. He is a private investigator who discovered that a man who had earlier threatened George Sotter, George Sotter's home and his family, he said, you're gonna have a fiery death because George Sotter was talking shit on Mussolini, which immediately put me on George Sotter's side. Yeah, he had gone him.
Starting point is 00:16:20 That guy who said that to him was also on the coroner's jury that decided that the fire had been an accident. And he heard from a minister in the nearby church that the fire chief, Chief Morris, confessed to him that he found a human heart in the fire, which he then buried in a metal box in the woods. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:40 He put me, then he buried it in a metal box? Yeah, so things get even weirder from here because George Sotter confronts Chief Morris about the heart and he actually takes him and C.C. Tinsley out to where he buried it, digs it up for them, okay? But when the funeral director checked it out and revealed that it was actually just a hunk of beef liver in the box,
Starting point is 00:16:59 Chief Morris was like, listen, you got me. I felt bad for you. I wanted to give you closure to prove that your kids were dead and I fucked up. So that's on me. And so that really fucking sucked. And then in 1949, like four years later, they redugged through the dirt at the site.
Starting point is 00:17:18 They found a piece of human bone. But after testing, they revealed that the bone had never been burnt before. Like it had never seen flame and was from someone who would have been a little older than the kids were at the time. So it was just ruled a fluke. And for some reason,
Starting point is 00:17:35 Tinsley said they came from a cemetery in Mount Hope, which was 15 miles away, but he had no explanation for how or why they would be there or how he knew that actually, which was super weird. But he said it was just like dirt from over there that had moved there. I don't know if that was shady or he just like never put forth an explanation,
Starting point is 00:17:52 but that was the situation there. In 1952, the Soldiers put up a famous billboard where the house once stood. This is something you might have seen a picture of if you looked up this mystery online at any point in your life. It's a pretty popular mystery on Reddit. It eventually became a local landmark and many more tips and sidings have been reported since.
Starting point is 00:18:10 But the last one that I want to focus on, which I thought was interesting, occurred in 1967. So like over 20 years later, when Jenny received a photograph in the mail postmarked from Central City, Kentucky, of a young man in his late 20s or early 30s, but who also looked a lot like their missing son, Louis, who was only 10 at the time of the fire.
Starting point is 00:18:33 The picture is online if you want to see, if you look up Louis Sotter. Though it probably has a wilder effect if you knew what the kid looked like when he was younger, you know, but I don't even know what he looked like. There's like a low res photo of him. So I don't know how accurate it is, but it came with a note that freaked out Jenny Sotter,
Starting point is 00:18:52 which said, Louis Sotter, I love brother Frankie, little boys, A90132 or 35. I don't know what that means, but that's what the message said. Oh, yeah. Anyway, the family kept looking without much to go on, eventually coming to the conclusion that maybe the Sicilian mafia was behind it
Starting point is 00:19:13 and that they took their kids back to Italy for some payment that they believed had, they believed they had come into them from George, but George died in 1969. And though some of the family is still around fighting for the truth today, Sylvia Sotter packs in the little girl who found the pineapple bomb looking thing who was like,
Starting point is 00:19:30 she was the last one of the siblings to have been like the youngest one, the last one alive. She was only two years old when the house burnt down. She died in 2021 after quote, a long illness at the age of 79. And even her obituary, if you read her obituary, it mentions the fire and all the names of all 10 of her brothers and sisters.
Starting point is 00:19:51 So if you want to go look up the obituary for Sylvia Sotter packs, then you can do that. And you can read a little sweet story about how she never stopped thinking about all her siblings, even when she was like a nice old lady. And that is the Sotter children mystery. What happened to those kids? Where did those kids go?
Starting point is 00:20:09 Look, I still have my negative Jesse view that those kids were killed before. The fire was like set to make it be like, no, what happened to our kids? The thing is, it would have to be a real hot fire to burn away any evidence at all of any skeletons. And they looked pretty thoroughly, you know what I mean? And so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:34 And I don't know, like some of those things, like the picture of the kid, like what is that? Just like a nut sending them like messing with that lady. Yeah, I mean, there are nuts. Yes, there are nuts. Benjamin Franklin was trolling people until after they died. Yeah, I guess. I've seen just like a lot more low profile
Starting point is 00:20:51 than what Ben Franklin was doing. Well, yeah, some people have, you know, people just like to fuck with people. I mean, there are people that do that. I remember there was some story about some guy on YouTube who like said he was, he like started tormenting a family that was like, had like an unsolved murder of like the mom or something in the family.
Starting point is 00:21:12 He was like, I did it. And then the cops came and he was like, I was just fucking around. I'm just a fucking asshole. Sorry, sorry, sorry. But yeah, that's the Sutter Children mystery. Pretty interesting one. Lots more to read on that one too,
Starting point is 00:21:23 if you want to like go deep. But that's not like the reason that I didn't make it into a full episode is because a lot of the stuff beyond like the core story, a lot of the time just, it's so hard to like actually say. You know, I was being cute earlier and being like, you know, I'm all about the story and I don't care that much about how accurate the facts are.
Starting point is 00:21:39 But like, I like I say, I'm not trying to fuck you around. You know what I mean? Like sometimes it gets a little too far away from something that I like want to say on a microphone. Sure. So it's a little shorter, but yeah. Anyway, number eight, 200 pound pillow. You took that one so seriously.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Yeah, I just, you know, it's, you know, I'm done. I have scruples. The 200 pound pillow is number eight. It sounds like a lot. It sounds like a hassle. I bless it. I bless it. Yeah. I wish I was free, I wish I was free of that burden.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Let's head over to a story in Mathis's wheelhouse. Don't know if you've ever heard of this one before. For all I know, we've done a whole episode on it that I forgot about. But this one takes place on August 27th, 1979, 20 miles from the North Dakota border near Highway 220 in Warren, Minnesota. County Sheriff's Deputy Val Johnson
Starting point is 00:22:31 set it down Highway five when he saw Bright Light to the South where the 220 is. At first he thought it was some kind of crash plane or like a balloon or whatever. But then he realized that something was happening different spatially than he thought. Like he thought he was looking at something in the air and that's not what he was looking at.
Starting point is 00:22:47 The thing smashed through his front windshield almost, bashed its way up and like bounced over the front of his car. And it said that it hit him like a 200 pound pillow. And when it hit him, he kind of passed out. And there's an actual radio call that you can see. But I thought it would be more fun if you guys read the radio call.
Starting point is 00:23:08 So Jesse, you're gonna be the operator. And Mathis, you're gonna be Deputy Johnson. But don't worry, I made it so easy just like I did the other day. All right, where are we doing this? Oh, I see, okay. 407, what's your condition? I don't know, something just hit my car.
Starting point is 00:23:25 What's your condition? Are you okay? I saw him attack my car. I heard the glass breaking in the locks. The brakes locked up. I don't know what's going on. So yeah, that was great. I liked that.
Starting point is 00:23:35 A lot of drama in that one. Yeah. It really gave it my all. It's very Twin Peaks vibes. Any agents out there, you can contact me at www.gmail.com. Agents, I don't know how this all of you would think works. Mr. My.
Starting point is 00:23:50 That would be the most exciting day of my life. You wanna join with the agents? Come on, you gotta get out of there. Oh man, listen, just give me matrix power. I'll take matrix powers. Right? You can do it. Anyway, according to police reports,
Starting point is 00:24:03 both Johnson's watch and the clock in his squad car stopped for about 14 minutes. Johnson's teeth were fractured at the gum line and his eyes appeared to have, quote, mild welders burns according to the report. But probably the coolest thing about this is that you can actually go visit this squad car today in exactly the same condition it was
Starting point is 00:24:23 when it got hit by whatever it got hit with that night at the Marshall County Historical Society Museum in Glendale, Minnesota. And speaking of that car, that squad car, apparently they brought out experts from the Ford Motor Company in Honeywell to like investigate, because that's how serious they took this.
Starting point is 00:24:43 This was like a weird fucking thing that happened for reals. And nobody could make any sense of it. One of the guys from Ford said that, quote, the cracks in the glass collectively were unlike anything I've seen before. Isn't that nuts? I guess, I mean, do they, did I miss the part where they explained
Starting point is 00:25:05 how the cracks got there? Literally just the object that flew at his car and hit him, like sort of like came right at his car, bounced up, like knocked off like the front of his mirror, the front of his, what do you call it, headlights, like bounced up onto the hood, bounced once, smashed right into his windshield. And then he like,
Starting point is 00:25:26 And it wasn't like a deer or anything? It was like an object? It was like an object that he thought was actually far away in the sky when he was looking at it and didn't realize that it was like right next to him. Interesting. And it did a bunch of crazy stuff. And so they brought in experts, nobody has any idea.
Starting point is 00:25:42 And while nobody knows, for sure what he encountered that night or what happened to him, it is Johnson himself who has the best take. And I'm going to let Mathis read that. He seems like he's sort of, you know, moved on from his scary times as a police officer and is kind of mellowed out.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Upon reflection, we've come to the conclusion that perhaps the creator has made other things we can't readily see or readily identify. And perhaps this is one of the things we encountered on the road. So he's just like, God did it. Yeah. God did it.
Starting point is 00:26:11 He's like, yo. He's like, all right, all right, all right. I guess you got to get through life however you can. That's just a crazy hot take. It's like, you know what? It could have been anything, but I actually respect it, honestly, because he's like, you know, I could have said it was a deer.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I could have said it was anything. I could have said I hit it like a tree. But no, he's like, look, there's probably things out there that God made that we'll never understand. I'm like, you know what? That's pretty, all right. I like that. I mean, if you had like the trauma of something like this
Starting point is 00:26:43 where every single person in the world just like thinks you're crazy. Yeah. You know, like, you know, that's possibly the best mindset that I can think of. Absolutely, yeah. And that is the story of the war in Minnesota, UFO. How about that?
Starting point is 00:26:59 And there's just nothing, it's like a baby, like a little baby. It's like the alien that shows up in the Jetsons in a little UFO. He's like, oh, hello, dum-dum. That guy. Yeah, the little green dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:13 Exactly. What the hell is his name? I don't know. Hello, dum-dum. Yeah, I just don't remember his name. Yeah. He's got big balls. Look up Jetsons alien.
Starting point is 00:27:22 What is his name? Gleepglor? No. Jetsons pet. Oh, the Great Gazoo. The Great Gazoo. There we are. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Yeah, look, another one of those mini mysteries because they're like the bigger mysteries that I like to cover in a whole episode. But I do less of them. I do less. Yeah, they're smaller. You know what I'm saying? Mini mysteries.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Genius. All right, number nine. Tiny mini mysteries. Number nine of 22, Blind the Wind. We're making good progress, good progress. Let's head back to Germany, specifically to the town of Wilhelmshaven. Sometime between 1982 and 1984,
Starting point is 00:28:02 when a man called Darius S, that's a shortened abbreviated last name for privacy, was listening to a radio show called Music for Young People on the local public radio station, NDR One, very 80s, Germany. Everything about it for young people. Music for young people. Music for young people.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Music for the enjoying of young people to dance to and listen to on the idle times. With the resting or listening to it. All I can imagine is the Mike Myers Sprockets character. Yeah. And he would, so he would listen to this show and he would record songs that were being played onto cassettes so he could like re-listen to it.
Starting point is 00:28:41 This is like something we all used to do. You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. It's called making a mixtape. You do it for yourself and love ones. Yeah, and it's a very personal act. To him, the tapes were precious, like I say. He listened to them a lot for years and years
Starting point is 00:28:57 and one of those tapes, the one that's of interest to us, is simply called Cassette Four, which has some then new but now familiar faces on it like some band like the Cure or XTC, but a list of songs he liked to call, but also a list of songs he liked to call his Unknown Pleasures, which were 25 like deep cut songs that he'd stockpiled over the years that were like,
Starting point is 00:29:21 you know, those songs that they're on the radio, but you know, over the years they get played less and less while some songs, you know, live 20 to 30 years. One had wonders. Yeah, well just songs that didn't make a big splash. Let's put it that way. But he never, but, you know, they never, they never entered the zeitgeist.
Starting point is 00:29:40 One of the songs in particular had captured the imagination of Darius and his sister Lydia, and which I'll share with you guys right now so you can listen to the song and tell the people what it sounds like. Okay, so here is a link to the song. And just give us a little play-by-play of how it is. You won't have to listen to the whole thing,
Starting point is 00:29:56 but just kind of, you'll get it. It's pretty clear what kind of vibe it is. Links to our song. What the hell? It's like the Beach Boys or something. Okay. Is that, am I not correct? To me, slower.
Starting point is 00:30:08 To me, it's like- No, it's definitely not the Beach Boys. To me, it's like very 80s, like sort of like New Wavey, like something that would be on the Vice City soundtrack. Yeah, Vice City for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can definitely see that. Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 00:30:22 But it's very like, kind of generic sounding, kind of like maybe not an English speaker talking, I'm not sure. Like what do you think, describe the singer to people. Like a deeper voice. It's kind of in the same vein as like a, imagine like flock of seagulls, but with a deeper voice. Like that kind of-
Starting point is 00:30:46 Like that guy who looks like Gile from Street Fighter. Yeah, like it definitely has a hard 80s vibe of just like, there's a crappy synth that's like, bop bop bop bop bop in the background. And then it's just like a, almost like a cure level of the song, it seems like it's about depression, but I'm not really sure what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:31:05 But it has that vibe of like- What do you think he's saying, by the way? That like, that line that he repeats. Not a clue. No clue what he's saying. I could not even guess. So the name of the segment, number nine, it's called blind the wind.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Cause that's what some people think he said. So people say, think he's saying like the wind. A lot of different theories about what he's saying. It was English is what I was listening to. Maybe. Hold on. I think so. I think it's English.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I just think it's got like a slight accent on it that kind of, the way, you know, like how the, the strokes do speak English, but like the way that he just kind of says the lines without worrying whether you can really understand what he's saying. Right. Has that kind of vibe to it.
Starting point is 00:31:49 There's a lot of, if you go online, there's a lot of guesses as to what the words are to this song. But yeah, very, pretty low vocals in the mix. Pretty like, actually just like kind of like amateurly mixed in general, kind of low, sounds like a demo, you know what I mean? But anyway, in 2007, Lydia convinced Darius, and I'll put this on the subreddit if somebody reminds me,
Starting point is 00:32:07 it's called blind the wind, like the wind, you can find it on YouTube. Anyway, in 2007, Lydia convinced Darius to let her put a clip of it online, thinking that the mystery would quickly be solved, but there it languished in sub 10K view purgatory until 2018, when a 16 year old kid from Brazil called Gabriel da Silva Vieira, Vieira, Vieira.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Gabriel da Silva Vieira finally posted it to some mystery-minded Reddit communities, eventually drawing the attention of Wang's Tales from the Internet, Wang's Tales from the Internet show, and becoming a full-on viral sensation. Everybody knows who Wang is, you guys know this? No, I don't, but I can easily find out. Yeah, he's like a, I bet you a lot of people
Starting point is 00:32:47 who listen to this show know about Wang's Tales from the Internet. He's like a guy who sits in front of his webcam and like tells you about mysteries. I'm sure everybody knows this type of channel. Eventually, somebody emailed Lydia for the full version of the file and turned around and leaked it in full online,
Starting point is 00:33:03 which is why we can listen to it today, but nobody on earth, not even the DJ who probably played it on the radio in the first place, who was a guy called Paul Baskerville, by the way, has any idea who it is that wrote or recorded this song, exactly what the lyrics are, or if it's possible that a radio single of it is sitting somewhere in one of Paul's stacks of over 10,000 vinyl records,
Starting point is 00:33:23 just like this, that you sort of build up as you are like a radio producer, right? So there could be like an official version of this somewhere in his collection, but other than meticulously going through this collection, which I don't think he's into, that's the only possibility. Are you sure this isn't one of those like fake Beatles things?
Starting point is 00:33:45 No, no, this is a real thing, because- This is a real, are you sure it's a real song? And not just a song that was recorded, then recorded over on a tape, and then put it online. I guess I'm not 100% sure, but the amount of like scrutiny that this song has been through for it to not be- But just no one knows where it's from,
Starting point is 00:34:02 no one can figure it out? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Paul does say he played songs that snuck over from East Germany over the wall sometimes, because it was the 80s, so there was still the wall up, but nobody's even really sure the voices on the track sound like they're German, you know? Almost maybe like it's like a British person, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:34:20 It's all just one big lung shot, theories and sightings At one point, it was said that the track was, quote, the B-side of a demo tape, whatever that means, the B-side of a demo tape doesn't really make sense to me. Why would you have a B-side on a demo tape? It's not like a single, I mean, I don't know, whatever. It doesn't mean, it doesn't matter. From a German band who broke soon after that,
Starting point is 00:34:42 called Dinah Lekayen, like a band from that time called Dinah Lekayen, that maybe it was like a demo of theirs that got played on the radio sometime, but according to various people who look into this, that's not a super, like, likely one anymore. Another person said they were supposedly friends with an obscure German band called Isirks, who released the song as Check It In in 1982.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And maybe they're saying, check it in. I don't know about that though. The lead singer- I'm looking up Check It In song. The lead singer is dead, but other than confirming that the band did exist at one time and that their lead singer did in fact die, nothing else can be proven about their connection
Starting point is 00:35:23 to the track because this song doesn't seem to exist anywhere. Isirks, check it in. But that's what they say. I'm deep into the comments of this video right now. Yeah, that's what they say. I think these are the lyrics you're talking about. This sucks. If you go to YouTube and look up Check It In song,
Starting point is 00:35:40 the first thing that appears is a one Billigan viewed video for the chicken song. The chicken song. Nice. Billian views. Some videos are so popular that if they sound like a video that you're looking for, it will show up before the video you're looking for.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Yeah. Oh, yeah, there you go. Like the wind. You came here running. Take the consequence for leaving. There's no space. There's no tomorrow. Yeah, there is somebody who claimed it online,
Starting point is 00:36:08 but it's not theirs. Another lead on YouTube says that the song possibly played on the looping in-store music at the Whole Foods where they worked in 2003. They said they recognized it, like, exactly from that mix. But they tried to reach out to the company that programmed the Whole Foods radio station. Weren't able to contact them, so that's unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:36:30 But yeah, almost 40 years later, it's just crazy that any piece of media out there could exist. They can't be traced to at least some sort of definitive origin, but for something to have been played to so many people in such an official capacity, having no record of it at all is pretty frustrating, pretty amazing, pretty mysterious. It's not the only piece of lost media out there,
Starting point is 00:36:50 but it's an interesting one. And I think if you like stuff like what we do, looking into lost media is like a very adjacent sort of like pursuit for people who want that late night up at 2 a.m. researching feeling. So, I just love you. There's a theory that I'm reading right now that I think is super interesting,
Starting point is 00:37:13 and it seems feasible to me, but I'm just gonna run this by you because I think this is great, this is so neat. All right, due to the singer's voice, I believe it's definitely Eastern European, and I believe the band is from Hungary for two reasons. One, the song's lyrics are often interpreted as dark and hopeless, a place you cannot escape.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Hungary, during this time, 1982, 1984, was under communist control and fits the lyrics very well. I researched this and found out that many punk and new wave bands from Budapest, or Budapest, as Marvel would say, their demo tapes were sent to Western Germany in hopes of success. This is also backed up by a few NME articles about punks being locked up
Starting point is 00:37:57 as they did not meet government perversion standards with older music. They're all from around 1984, the same year this song is purported to have existed. So, I think that's pretty interesting. It could have been from like beyond the wall. Yeah, I can definitely back up the Eastern European vibe,
Starting point is 00:38:16 as I have a lot of relatives from that part of the world who sound like this. Interesting. I like that there. I think that's super interesting. There could be tons of lost music that we'll never know about, simply because of the time period. There's a great episode of,
Starting point is 00:38:29 I can't remember if it's Reply All, a radio lab or something like that, that's exactly this. There's a song and they go really, really galaxy brain deep to find out the song. I'm not gonna spoil whether they find it or not, but you should check out, I think it's a Reply All. But that's number nine, that's Blind the Wind.
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Starting point is 00:39:53 Currently this must end by six, three, 24. Extra charge for miles over 20,000. Residency restrictions apply. Take delivery by 531-23. Jeep is a registered trademark. Up next, a mini mystery. That's not about an event or a person, but rather a magical, almost flubber-like substance.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Flubber? Starlight, sort of, sort of. Not like in the same way, it doesn't have the same properties as flubber, but it is as amazing as flubber. Yeah, just as good. Yeah, starlight is an intumescent material, which means it swells when it is exposed to heat
Starting point is 00:40:30 and increases in both volume and density, which makes them great for applications involving protection from high amounts of heat. Okay, so it's like a heat protection material. However, starlight is especially famous due to just how insanely effective it is, thanks to a demonstration on the BBC show Tomorrow's World, so this is a very real substance,
Starting point is 00:40:51 where they showed an egg which stayed raw and even cold enough to easily be touched directly after spending five minutes in the flame of a blowtorch, and can also prevent a blowtorch from causing any damage to a human hand. What? Yeah. And that was not even close to the end of starlight.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Starlight has also easily withstood a plasma torch, normally used to cut through 18-inch thick steel. It can render warheads, which can usually hit over 900 degrees Celsius in less than 10 seconds, incapable of rising above 40 degrees Celsius, and has even been said to have weathered lasers that produce temperatures in excess of 10,000 degrees Celsius.
Starting point is 00:41:39 So I need to cover my whole house in this stuff. Yes, starlight is definitely real. That is not up for debate, but what exactly it's made of is not public knowledge. Though we do know it was originally the invention of a hairdresser and amateur physicist called Maurice Ward, who first discovered it sometimes in the 70s or 80s, and that according to Dateline NBC
Starting point is 00:42:02 and The Telegraph in London, though I'm just taking this quote from Wikipedia, quote, it is said to contain a variety of organic polymers and copolymers with both organic and inorganic additives, including bore rates and small quantities of ceramics and other special barrier ingredients up to 21 in all. Perhaps uniquely for a material claimed to be thermal proof, it is claimed to be not entirely inorganic,
Starting point is 00:42:28 but up to 90% organic, 90%. Oh, yeah. Also, according to Maurice Ward's youngest daughter, Nikola, starlight is also natural and edible, and both dogs and horses have eaten it without getting sick or having any negative impact on their health of any kind. So let that sink in for a minute. That's so weird, okay.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Ward allowed tons of tests on starlight over the years, but never let anyone retain any samples to prevent reverse engineering, turning down requests from everyone from Boeing to NASA until he died in 2011 without ever commercializing starlight. However, in 2020, BBC Online reported that a company called Thermoshield LLC bought all his notes and equipment
Starting point is 00:43:18 to try and make something similar out of the information they find there, and in 2018, a YouTuber called Nighthawk in Light tried to make it from scratch, just tried to make starlight after noticing the similarity in properties between starlight and those low-key, dope, like, black snake fireworks, like the one from South Park.
Starting point is 00:43:39 You know what I'm talking about? Those little ones that are like a little pill and you light it, yeah. He said he noticed that it was similar to that, and so he was like, I'm gonna try and fucking make this shit. He made a formula incorporating cornstarch, flour, sugar, and borax
Starting point is 00:43:55 that can handle some pretty serious heat sources, but it wasn't the same and it wasn't nearly as stable as actual starlight, but he was on the right track, and those were the ingredients that he was using, which is crazy. And that's the story of starlight, a mysterious and mostly organic edible substance
Starting point is 00:44:12 that can withstand the heat of weaponized laser beams. I want some. Isn't that insane that that's real? Like, without a gout, that's real. Isn't that nuts? I can't figure out, like, Star Wars shit. He let people test it though, right? Yeah, he let people like do heat tests on it and stuff,
Starting point is 00:44:31 and he bring it. But not keep the sample. He didn't give them, yeah, wouldn't let them keep the sample and wouldn't let them know what he did to make it. And there are records of those tests? Yeah, there's literally one of them was on the BBC. Fascinating. I would love to know what the overall result like,
Starting point is 00:44:47 you imagine if they have records of the tests, there could there has to be some kind of like, we backtraced it. It's very possible. I was reading online that somebody thinks it might have like. Got like vanished and like black ops. Sure. Got like, yeah, I can see a government being like, we're going to give you a ton of money.
Starting point is 00:45:09 You shut up and we'll take this from you. Hey, you never shared the secret of this till your death. That's so crazy, right? Like how strange? Yeah, that type of thing is very possible in this situation. You know, that's just my conspiracy brain. There's no like evidence of that. It's not even necessarily conspiracy brain
Starting point is 00:45:25 because the government is known to do that all the time. I'm just I'm just saying I don't have any reason to believe that in this specific case, sure. That just seems like one of actually the more realistic, I think, like options that probably happened. Yeah, but fascinating, right? Just absolutely insane. Uh, all right.
Starting point is 00:45:43 And here we are at number 11. Of 22. Is this the end of part one? Maybe. Perhaps. Yeah, no, it is. What do you mean, maybe? Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:45:55 This is officially the end of part one. This is the last. This is the last case. This is the end of part two, part one. This is the end of part two, part one, part two. Yeah. Yeah, because next week is part two, part one. Part two, part question mark, question mark, question mark.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Yeah, true. It could be part two finale. It could be part one. Who knows? It could be part two, part one of the three parts. You never know. It could be anything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:19 This one is called Metropolitan Designated Case 114. This sounds like right out of minority. I know, right? This this you have no idea how great you probably have heard of this. But this is if you haven't, this is the craziest thing ever. This next one, we may have lightly touched on before. I cannot remember. Not nearly at this level of detail, though.
Starting point is 00:46:38 So you'll be glad I did do this, regardless of whether you've heard it before, because this literally. Seems like a fake story, even though more than any of the other ones that I ever tell you, this one is totally 100 percent no question well documented and true, except there's a big mystery at the heart of it. So have you guys heard of Glico? Glico. Yeah, I guess their full name is Izaki Glico Company.
Starting point is 00:47:02 But if you saw the logo, you'd probably recognize them. They're a snack food brand. They make stuff like pretz, Pocky, those weird pudding cup, like pudding cups for grownups, things that look kind of like flan. Anyway, they're 100 years old in like a month's time. They've got that really famous ad of the running guy with his hands up from Dotonbori in Osaka, which has been there since like the thirties. It's like a landmark.
Starting point is 00:47:28 And their current president and CEO, Katsuhisa Izaki, has been in that position since 1982, including on the night of March 18th, 1984, two years into his term, when mass kidnappers armed with guns, which are a relative rarity in Japan, walked into the house with a set of spare keys while Izaki, who was 42 at the time, was taking a bath. Apparently, they had just been over at his mother's house next door first when they forced their way in, tied his mom up, gagged her, took her spare keys.
Starting point is 00:47:58 And then similarly, when they dragged him naked out of the tub, they also tied up and gagged his wife and his daughter. And they took him naked and dripping wet, shoved him out the door, put him into a car that they had waiting outside and they all fucking left. And from there, they took him to a secret warehouse that they kept by the docks along the river in Ibaraki Prefecture and demanded an insane ransom of one billion yen, which is about nine million dollars, as well as two hundred and twenty pounds
Starting point is 00:48:30 of pure gold bullion, which immediately made this into a huge national news story. Round the clock coverage, company president kidnapped, especially since compared to the dystopian wasteland that is America. The crime rate in Japan is insanely low and most cases are like open and shut. Like in 1983, there were twenty seven kidnappings in the entire country of any kind in the entire country of Japan. There are only twenty seven kidnappings and of all the murders that happened, which were very few, ninety seven percent of the murders were solved in 1983,
Starting point is 00:49:03 which to me is like impeccable. Yeah, it's crazy. But nevertheless, even after locking down Osaka and putting up roadblocks in junk, they came up with absolute diddly when it came to the Glico CEO. Luckily, however, Izaki was able to escape unharmed from the warehouse on his own, stumbling home after sixty five hours and the ransom was never paid. But a few weeks later, on April 8th, a letter postmarked the previous day from Osaka as well was sent to the Mayanichi and Sankai newspapers,
Starting point is 00:49:35 which are in Osaka, as well as the Hyogo Prefectural Police. No stamp, zodiac style with the name Katsuhisa Izaki on the envelope. And now Jesse's going to read us the full text of that letter in English to wet our whistles for this little mini mystery. Ready? Yeah. All right. I'm in this again. All right. Two Japanese police fools. Are you stupid?
Starting point is 00:50:01 There's so many of you. What on earth are you doing? If you are real pros, try catching me. There's too much handicap. So I will give you a hint. There's no fellows in the Izaki Izaki's relatives. There's no fellows in Nishinomiya. Sure. Nishinomiya Police. Sure. You went you went for it.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Yeah. You know, sometimes you got to try. There's no fellows in flood fighting corps. Car I used is gray. Food was bought at Dai A. If you want a new info, beg for it in the newspaper. After telling you all this, you should be able to catch me. If you don't, you are tax thieves. You're like kidnapped the head director of the Prefectural Police.
Starting point is 00:51:00 So I'll fucking villain. This guy is a bond villain. Yeah. And from this point, over the next 18 months or so, the National Police Agency of Japan would receive over a hundred nasty taunting letters like this from the criminal group. Each one signed Kaijin Nijuichi Menso, which translates roughly to something like the monster with 21 faces. Yeah, that's that's a hell of a fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:51:28 That's great. Yeah, I love it. Not only is this an awesome super criminal name, it's also probably a reference to a detective novel from 1936 by Japanese mystery writer Edogawa Rampou, which is actually just a pseudonymous rough Japanization of Edgar Allan Poe and the real author's name is Hirai Tairou. But the book is called The Fiend with 20 Faces, and it's about a Armistead Lupinesque
Starting point is 00:51:53 gentleman, thief, master of disguise slash Nemesis character, who is the nemesis for the private eye Kogoro Akechi. And while it seems pretty scary at first, it's actually more like a kids mystery series where the detective is like gone for the first half of the book and the boys detective club like track him down and then they get like caught up and then Akechi's back and he saves him and like takes the guy down. That's like kind of the the formula for those.
Starting point is 00:52:20 But yeah, around the same time that first letter went out out in front of the Iizaki Glico company offices, six cars were mysteriously set on fire. And about a week later, back at the warehouse where they were keeping Iizaki, somebody found another note threatening Iizaki along with a container filled with hydrochloric acid, making it clear that things had really only just begun. And it seemed that more than just bizarre sums of money, what the monster was after was to bring their victims to their knees.
Starting point is 00:52:49 And that's exactly what they did next, because their next step was to contact various news outlets all over Osaka and playfully informing them that, hey, you know, all the that Glico product out there on the store shelves that you have all over the country. Yeah, well, thanks to us. Some of it is laced with cyanide. Goodbye. My God. And so just like that, entire country is in panic. Glico products are like, you know, Nestle products here.
Starting point is 00:53:14 They're everywhere. Glico products were pulled from every store. Huge chains were destroying all their surplus, unsold items. People were returning shit that they already bought and took home to the tune of about twenty one million dollars. Yeah, as you can probably imagine, the only thing that was lower than morale were the stock prices of Glico, which is totally real. That's not just a joke.
Starting point is 00:53:37 And you know what the most fucked up part about the whole thing was? Tons of tests were done on all the delisted Glico food, and no one found a single trace of cyanide anywhere. There was no cyanide. I was going to say a little earlier, I wonder if they just called it in to fuck with like their profits. This is like razor blade snapples kind of vibe. Yeah, exactly, exactly like that.
Starting point is 00:53:57 But that's not I was afraid of that as a kid. Yeah, me too. Not even close to the end of the story. Letters were still flooding in four or five times a month, absolutely dunking on the national police, taunting them with frustratingly obvious clues. But now they were targeting another snack in candy manufacturer, the even older one hundred and twenty two year old
Starting point is 00:54:16 Morinaga and company who famously started the Japanese Valentine's Day tradition. I forget what they're called. Kyaku Chakos or something where the women give men chocolates on Valentine's Day started in like here. Yeah, I'm down. Yeah, it's it's literally like the Morinaga. That's like a it's like the KFC Christmas thing. It's like they have these chocolates that you buy and you give them to dudes.
Starting point is 00:54:43 That's their thing that they're famous for. But while they're famous for a lot of things, but while they said that the main reason they were moving on from Glico was to give the CEO Izaki a break after living in shame for so long. But I'm also going to have Mathis read an excerpt from one of their letters to draw us a better picture of their vibe. And I kind of I'm a strong couple quotes here together. So bear with me. OK.
Starting point is 00:55:06 In our group, there's also a four year old kid every day he cries for Glico. It's a drag to make a kid cry because he's deprived of the candy he loves. Anyway, Japan is getting hot and humid and we're headed to Europe or one of those places. Let's bring Paki, the traveler's friend, delicious Glico products. We're eating them to see you in January of next year. Yeah. So basically they were like, oh, man, we're we're totally ruining this guy's life. Let's just give him a break.
Starting point is 00:55:34 And you know what? We got a kid with us and he likes Glico stuff and he wants to eat it. So let's go ahead and put it back in the store. Glico is all around like literally that's what that's what they're doing. Like some fucking true Doctor Evil shit. But yeah, almost immediately after that happened and they like broke up with Glico, Morinaga gets a call demanding they pay the monster with 21 faces, what would be about four hundred thousand
Starting point is 00:55:57 dollars in US dollars. And understandably, Morinaga is like he got a better deal than the other guy. Yeah. Well, they're like just cold call threatening them and they're like, no. So another letter goes out to the paper and here's another one for Jesse to read. To moms throughout Japan in autumn, when appetites are strong, sweets are really delicious. When you think of sweets, no matter what you say, it's Morinaga. We've added some special flavor. The flavor of potassium cyanide is a little bitter.
Starting point is 00:56:34 It won't cause tooth decay. So by the kid, by the sweets for your kids, we've attached a notice on these bitters sweets that they contain poison. We put 20 boxes in stores from Akata to Tokyo. Yeah. So I know Jesse's putting on a voice there, but I think it's the right voice. Oh, yeah, that's right up. Oh, yeah. Perfect. Yeah. This time, though, it was real.
Starting point is 00:56:58 There really was cyanide. They really did find choco balls and angels pie and angel pies was scary then. But now hilarious labels on them that read, quote, danger contains poison. You'll die if you eat this signed the monster with 21 faces. And if that's like a Batman, I know I'm saying this. Yeah, I know Gotham City. And if that wasn't wild enough, they say also next time there won't be any labels and there's going to be 30 boxes.
Starting point is 00:57:27 So literally same fucking thing happens again. Glico, Morinaga gets a Glico'd now. Absolutely bodied. The products are boycotted, rejected by all major retailers. Their stock fell by almost 25 percent. And now letters start going out to tons of other companies asking them for money. And some companies did comply, but nobody ever completely retrieved the money. None of nobody ever actually came to retrieve the money.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Though there were a few close calls, including one time at a train station in Tokyo, where officers lost sight of a fleeing subject near one of the drop off points. According to the police, this was not as fun as I'm making it sound in this story at all. In fact, horribly, tragically, Superintendent Yamamoto from Shiga Prefecture was so embarrassed and ashamed of his department's performance that on the night of August 7th, 1985, a little after a little year and a half or so after this whole thing went down, he walked into his backyard, dumped a bottle of kerosene all over his body and burned himself to death in shame.
Starting point is 00:58:30 No, that's not going to do you any good. Yeah, you know, you're just going to get really burned and die. And, you know, shortly thereafter, whether or not the reason they gave is true. Here is what they said about the situation in the last letter they ever ended up sending. This one's for Mathis to read. And, you know, maybe maybe superintendent Yamamoto made a difference. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Don't let bad guys like us get away with it. There are many more fools who want to copy us. No, career Yamamoto died like a man. So we decide to give our condolences. We decided to forget about torturing food companies. If anyone blackmails any of the food making companies, it's not us, but someone copying us. We are bad guys, which means we've got more to do than bullying companies.
Starting point is 00:59:15 It's fun to lead a bad man's life. And with that, they never were heard of heard from again. In the time to lead a bad man's life. What the hell? I love being a bad boy. D.B. Cooper, but the Japan version. And they didn't get any money. They left. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:59:35 In the time since that letter was received. Oh, that's very Japanese. In the time since that letter was received, not even a single arrest had ever been made that there were 125,000 suspects interviewed. Everyone from Yakuza to North Korea to some kind of crazy inside job by Izaki or one of his employees, nothing ever even came close to a lead. And in fact, there were only two leads of any kind in the case ever that weren't just clues written in the letters, which may or may not have been
Starting point is 01:00:02 lies, obviously. The first one was a nondescript man in a Yomiuri Giants cap who was seen placing a glico chocolate onto the shelf around the time of the cyanide scare. And since he showed up on a security camera, that guy was known as the videotaped man, which is a fucking cool ass. Very detailed. Yeah. And the second clue was a man from the train station who got away. The same event that the superintendent burned himself alive over
Starting point is 01:00:34 was police were pretending to be employees of another one of the companies that they targeted Marudai headed to one of the drop off points with a bag of money. On the train, they see a man acting suspiciously because they also have costumed officers watching the like the drop off happens. So they have like a couple that's actually cops on the train. And they see this guy who's acting really weird on the train. And he's they they sort of like based on how he was acting, they sort of felt like he was there to do what they were doing,
Starting point is 01:01:04 kind of just keep an eye on the drop and make sure it wasn't shady or something for the for the whoever was actually going to pick it up. And they were like waiting for a flag on the like on the train from somebody to drop the money, but they never the flag never came. So they had their eyes on this guy and basically the Fox, the cops called him the Fox side man. And if you look at the sketch they made, I can totally see where they're coming from. Just look up Fox. Just Google Fox side man.
Starting point is 01:01:32 You'll see it's like a police sketch of a Japanese dude. And anyway, this dude showed up again during another handoff involving the House Food Corporation. So it's pretty likely that this guy was involved in the actual crimes, but he got away again and once the letters and crimes dried up, they eventually just had to stop looking and, you know, it's a place where not a lot of serious crime happened. So they were kind of eager to move past it.
Starting point is 01:01:57 And so that's kind of what happened. I know this is going to be this is going to sound like a trope, but for some reason in my mind, one of my favorite tropes, especially Japanese tropes, yeah, is this the guy. If you look at this dude, if you look this guy up online, he looks like the dude who like goes home to his family and his wife is making some kind of like delicious bento thing for him. And his kids are studying something.
Starting point is 01:02:23 And he's like, you have a good day. And he's like, very much looks like a salad. I had a very good day. Yes. And then he leaves the next morning and is like, goes out to his car and puts on a ski master. So like, that's who this guy looks like. I to love to live a bad man's life. Exactly. It's crazy looking.
Starting point is 01:02:40 So they stopped looking for him. That's the Glico Morinaga case, as it's more commonly known. And if you want a deeper look, if that has captured your imagination in the year since I first heard about this, there was a huge deep dive into this, a podcast called the monster with 21 faces. I have not listened to it. I don't know how good it is, but the website seems pretty in depth. Lots of scans, lots of photos, lots of letters
Starting point is 01:03:03 that are like associated with the different episodes they're doing. It seems really in depth. So go check it out if you want, it's at the monster with 21faces.com. It's great. It's a really good website. And with that, we've reached the end of part one, the halfway point of our show. We did it. Halfway point. Two thirds way point question mark. We don't know. Two fifths part.
Starting point is 01:03:24 We don't know. We don't know. One third. You have to come back next week to find out. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, that's it for us this week. We're off to do a Minnesota, which has some amazing articles, I think, coming slash videos. I think I know what Alex is doing. I'm really excited for it. Jesse said he has something that hooked him right away, and I've got something silly as always.
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