Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 147 - Encounter with a Skinwalker

Episode Date: April 6, 2022

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Yeah, this is not a good one, huh? Between the two of us. Aren't you the Chandler and aren't I the Joey? No, I mean, it's accurate. Yeah, I just feel like I've been boxed in to being the Chandler. My entire life. Let us know in the comments if you think we're the Chandler or the Joey. That's this week's chill comparison of the week.

It's a fun bit. I enjoy it quite a lot. It's one of my favorite things. Chandler and Joey, what makes them the LA version? Like, versus the New York version. Yeah, like, you know, like, what's the, what makes them the LA version? That's a good question because they're not very New Yorkish, I feel. Well, you know what? I'll tell you this.

Joey does end up going to LA in Joey, the spin-off show. So maybe does does what the fuck is that guy's name? What's Chandler's name? Matt LeBlanc. No, that's Joey. Chandler Bing. Chandler Bing. What is his name?

Matthew Perry. God damn. Perry. Perry. We got there. They're both named Matt. I didn't even think about that. OK.

All named Chris. All right, let's back to one. Matthew Perry. Does he ever show up on Joey? I would imagine no. I don't think so. Matthew Perry was going through some stuff, dude. That's a no way on Joey.

He's still going through some. I mean, he's not, he's not. He's better than he was. I saw him at a doctor game one time and he was bright red, but I think he's doing, he seems at peace now. Surprisingly, I have seen all of Friends. So at least. Yeah.

Multiple times actually. I asked you were there for you a follow-up question to that. What about Seinfeld? I have seen a couple of episodes of Seinfeld. Oh my God. All right, all right, all right. But I've seen all of the office. Is that work?

That's fine. I'm not as mad as I am about Friends. I'm actually kind of disappointed you saw all of the office. Like if you'd have said I saw like 90% of the seasons, I'd have been like, all right, my man. I checked out all of it. I saw all of it. I checked out around the whole season.

Seven, six or seven. I was out of there. Yeah. Yeah. I would have been like, all right. Once Michael Scott's out of the picture, it's like that's really where the series should have been. To me, the finale was the wedding.

Let's be real. Yeah. Yeah, that was good too. Let's be real. That was another one. This is real? Yeah. Alex.

What? What? The money we make on Patreon. It's true. It is real. And not unless we spend it on crypto. Well, that's true. Yeah, let's go.

Okay. Let's turn all of our Patreon earnings into NFTs. All right. Perfect. Crypted NFTs. You know what I'm saying? We'll ruin the world. I know some of our show.

Yeah, I know some really good artists. Amanda Flagg, you know, she made our pins. We'll steal some of her art. NFT UFO. Yeah. Well, we'll get some of her art that she did not make for us and steal it and turn it into NFTs. I do all the art and I just make a like UFO.

And then we just color it differently. And we sell 10,000. I like that. On the blockchain. Yeah. That sounds like a good sound business decision. In every single one. It's a different.

It's a different aim. There's a little aim in the window of the UFO. Guys, that's that NFT. How about UFO? Am I right? That's the new shirt from Chaluminati. It just says NFT, more like UFO. And then anything that says Chaluminati podcast.

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The finest website. All right. For today's episode, everybody, we are doing something we thought we did a lot earlier, but apparently it's like almost been a couple of months since we've done one of these. And it's always feels weird when I revisit the idea. I love this. This is like, I don't even, if the show is just us reading shit, I would be all over it.

No way. We definitely did this recently, right? It was in February. Well, last time we did one. That's recent for us. Recent for, it's almost two months. It's been almost two months. We could go a few more. Almost a week into April, Jesse.

We could go a few more months before I have to read the English language. All I want to do is I love the things that people write us. Like the, the depths to which people know us now, the weird bullshit they send us to read. I love it. It's, it's, it's a delight every time. Yeah. And I, there was a ton of stories this time around.

I couldn't get them all. And I don't even know if we're going to be making it through all of these. But with, without further ado, let's just jump into the first one, which is simply called the little ghost girl or the little girl. Nicky Gooner X 49. Oh, shit. Maybe her X-Men name. That's a hell of a name.

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I'm from a family who have several members who claim to see all sorts of weird and quirky things. And previous to this, I'd listen to the stories, smile and nod and think, give up daytime drinking, Janice. Oh my God. That feels like a very Jesse line. You're up there. I'm drinking Janice. Yeah.

Prior to this incident, I've had I've not had any weird sightings. And even after this, I would call myself an open minded skeptic. Anyway, when my son was at primary school, we live in the UK. So he was seven years old. I don't know what the equivalent would be in the US. A seven like first grade. Yeah, we just call it school. Yeah, school.

And it sucks. And it's probably underfunded. But we do leave our kids there. Yeah. Yeah. We entrust them to the state's hands. And it's done us well so far. Yeah.

He had a school disco in the evening. That sounds super fun. I never had a school disco. I had school dances where I stood over by the bleachers and watched my crush dance with her boyfriend like a cream. That came out way. That's pure. That came out way.

That's pure, Mathis. Question. Do you ask anything about this? We're like, dude, don't ask anything about this. Question. How many franchises of KFC did you own? Wow. The more I learn about you, Mathis, the darker your story becomes.

And I'm worried, man. Yeah. Oh, man, you want to hear a really, you want to tangent to a really embarrassing story. Don't stop him, Jesse. Let him talk. I was young. I was in the eighth grade.

And I had this mega crush on this girl. And she danced with me at the dance. And I was like really excited. And I wanted to like thank her. So I'm 12 or like 13, mind you. So I gave her a dollar. That's like a thank you for dancing with me. That's kind of whimsical and romantic.

You know, like, but I didn't tell her why I gave her the dollar. I just gave her the dollar. That is none of the things you just said. In the same, in the way that like one of those guys in Rome who like accosts you regardless of how well he knows you because you're a beautiful woman, it's romantic. In that way, that's I don't think it's romantic. I think that's assault.

I don't know. Okay, hold on. Hold on. I would agree. It's not romantic. I would not agree that it was assault. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're just paying her like a comedy whore.

It's like, it's you're like a little sheepish clown handing her the little rose. You know, you have to. I cannot even. Your feet, your feet are together. That I would keep. I would take that story to the grave. I wouldn't share that.

Your feet, your feet are. It's been out in the public eye for a long time. I have no shame. Your other hand behind your back and a little bow as you extend the hand. Straight forward. Did you say it?

No, I think I told her I fell into the dollar and I wanted to give it to her. And like that was. That is. Boy, I don't get to the point. I don't know. It was like 25 years ago. You know, the story is the story is a lot less crazy

considering you have like a life and like are dating a person and like have like animals that you take care of and you aren't like a psycho killer. Right. Like it's a lot. I can take the story easier, but I'm letting you know if you were like, I've been living on my own for seven years,

I would be like, all right. Well, it's all checking out now. I feel like I need to defend myself. I wasn't a psychopath. I was just autistic. That's really all it was. I just it's the opposite. Sure.

Understood. Understood. I'm just saying I'm trying to put. I'm trying to save you. I regret. It was Shakespearean. It was Shakespearean. It was Shakespearean like when everyone dies in Hamlet.

He's in eighth grade. You know what I mean? I'm like 12, 13, I'm a kid. This is this is what it was. To quote the pardon, I just watched. What a double thrice ass you were. Yeah. My aunt used to not get on the roller coasters

and she would just watch them go by and that was enough for her. That is totally different. One of those is fear slash stomach based and the other is a girl dance with you and you were like, have a dollar. It's crazy. I mean, I bet you if you had a box of chocolates, you would have gave her that instead.

Yeah, I didn't have any money. I just like next. That was my mom. That's the only reason. Such a I swear. I thought you're going to be like 20% of his weekly income. I was really into she danced with me and then I got like a little boner.

I was like those stories instead. You're like a weird. That would be a way weirder story to tell on the pot. That would have been every eighth grade person at a dance. Trust me on that, bro. Trust me when they those day, those kids like I don't know what to do right now. What do I do?

Yeah, that's a comedy bit and like a HBO show. Whatever happened to Mavis. That is like a cry for help. Anyway, the seven year old in primary school had a disco in the evening. Yeah. So she went to a disco in the evening. It was around October time.

So it was dark for around 5 p.m. And the disco was at 6 p.m. So the school was dark. The village we lived at the primary school was very old and had been there since the late 1800s and was the center of our village. So I dropped my son off at the disco, took him to the hall and was walking back

through the dark school to get back to my car. As I walked back past the classroom with a completely closed with with a completely closed at one and patio. Oh, you're saying to read the rest of the sentence. To the side, I saw a little girl around my son's age just standing on the patio. I haven't mentioned before, but the school disco was for Halloween.

So the kids were in fancy dress. So the fact this little girl had a long old fashioned dress on and looked old worldy at that point didn't strike me as odd. I stopped smiled and asked if she was okay. She shook her head in response, but didn't speak. Getting concerned. She was wandering around the school in the dark on her own. I then asked her, where's your mom?

Lovely. She simply raised her hand and pointed behind me. I turned around expecting to see a harassed mom searching for her child. But all that was behind me was the wire fence in the churchyard with church and gravestones. Oh my God. Yeah, that's like out of a horror movie. Straight up like movie shit.

Yeah, I spun back must have only looked behind me for 10, 20 seconds and the girl was gone, completely disappeared. I looked 360 degrees and she was nowhere. And the school was on a large enough building plot that I'd seen her even if she ran, but there was nothing. As I said, the patio was closed off behind her by a solid wall. I virtually ran all the way back to my car and took my sister with me when we picked up my son at 730.

Years have passed and I still don't know what to make of it. I wasn't scared at first, but after I was a little creeped out, the girl was as solid as you or I, and I would be able to pick her out of a lineup. Her image is so imprinted. A little aside, in the early 1800s before the school was built, the land had several houses where the poorer, larger families lived. And at one stage, sadly, an outbreak of disease

swept through the village and a lot of families lost loved ones. Those people are the ones buried in the church yard she pointed to behind the school. As I said, it was a strange occurrence in one I don't mention often, but one I can't quite explain. Well, you're welcome to share this. And that's it. That's just a little opening test teaser of a story.

Solid, believable, like, you know, no sort of like weirdly cinematic like coincidences required for this one. Yeah. And I'm just going to say I used to go to like rehearsals at night at my school because I was in the theater department. And so I would often have to like walk across the campus at like 10 p.m. You know, what long after everybody was gone, like maybe to go pick something up from the shop or whatever.

And it is not a friendly place. No. A school campus at night like a college campus. Maybe you're all right. But like. Because you can always at night are just hit different when they're empty and it's dark and it's creepy and everything echoes. And it's just.

And most college campuses kind of like you can walk through them. You know what I mean? It's not like a fenced off little jail that looks like a like a neighbor. Like it's weird in there, man. So I could totally I could totally see this being a thing. Very, very scary. All right, Alex, you're going to take the next one. Good sir.

Yeah, easy peasy. This one's called the Patupio Rehe and it's by far lap. Kia Ora Kuto. Greetings. After listening to the latest podcast, I felt obliged to mention another cryptid or rather famously supernatural being known in New Zealand as the Patupio Rehe. Patupio Rehe are generally known as the fey or fairy folk here in New Zealand.

They go by many names, mainly due to the tribal variation, regional Maori language dialects or differing myths relating to them. Patupio Rehe are characterized as generally having physical features such as hair, skin completion and I maybe skin complexion. And unlike the indigenous Maori, light or fair colored skin, red, blonde or light colored hair, green, blue or light colored eyes. Patupio Rehe are generally of average human height, though some stories have them likened to tall giants or even at small pixie like heights.

Again, tribal variation, et cetera. So wow, so really a lot of variation. Yeah, that's a huge variation. Imagine you're coming across like seven foot tall pixie. But maybe they maybe they come in all shapes and sizes like Pokemon legends arceus. Patupio Rehe have both genders and seem to have longer than average lifespans. Sometimes they can be immortal. It is said that the Patupio Rehe feared the sun, light and fire and so ate their food uncooked.

It's very vampire like almost. Yeah, kind of like golemy, maybe. Some stories say that the Patupio Rehe were in New Zealand long before Maori arrival, living in another plane of existence or spiritual realm and mainly keep to the forest and mountain areas. Patupio Rehe were often only seen or heard on misty nights and tend to stay away from humans, hiding just out of sight behind the trees or just beyond flowing waterfalls curiously peering out. Okay, interesting. So kind of like vampire, ghoulish, big foot vibes kind of. Yeah, kind of.

It's very unique. That's what I liked about a lot of the New Zealand cryptids, especially the crap. I forget the name of it. The one that we all thought was the favorite, Tani. The Taniwa, which is not pronounced Taniwa, but I'm bad at it. They're all like really interesting mashups of a few different things. Yeah. And I like that this one very seems very like like ancient, like just very like. Like, you know, there's a bit of a tradition to it, but it's also like maybe an accurate description of something that's out there. I like that.

Yeah. Despite their chosen separation, many tales speak of the interactions between Maori and Patupio Rehe. Traditional Maori tattooing was said to be taught by a Patupio Rehe elder to his human son-in-law, as well as the art of weaving fishing nets and the teaching of forbidden tapu magic. It is safe to say that Patupio Rehe were generally seen as beings or creatures to be fearful of or that they were tapu. This is where the English word taboo comes from. Oh, that's interesting. So it's kind of like, like, you know, just dark, right? Like a cult stuff.

I like that. It's kind of like the idea of, you know, I don't know, sort of a New Zealand version of like, you know, like how it is with the like the elves in the Witcher or something like that, where there's like an elder species that has like communion with humans and stuff and are adjusting to the fact that there are humans kind of deal. I don't know. Kind of interesting. Patupio Rehe are said to be able to speak to Maori. However, they did have their own language. They would speak Maori to lure humans away, children and adults with their voices, songs and flute playing, sometimes appearing to beckon people over, leading them into the mists, never to be seen again. However, some would return, often women nursing a child they had

with the Patupio Rehe and this child would grow with some features of their feather, such as colored eyes, colored hair or fair skin. These children were known as Ukehu. See, that's super like fairy like that. That part's like super fairy, like disappearing into the mists and having like this kind of like changeling like child. Very bizarre. Yeah, but that's also like this is these these all these details are present in other like cultures around the world. Like, you know, they're like almost tropish. It's really kind of interesting. Those types of things. Like, I don't know. I mean, this is this is like, you know, as an American, like very similar to like the things that we have in the Appalachian

trail, like the types of stuff that go viral on TikTok all the time. Yeah, stuff like that. Or even just like a skin walker. But also like I love that there's like a culture to them and that they have like society and community of their own. As a person of Maori descent, it was not uncommon to have the fear of Patupae Rehe drummed into me from a young age. I remember our childhood home had a large tree out the front next to the driveway that my grandparents would warn me not to climb. This was because Patupae Rehe would rest there and would take me away if I disturbed them. Besides this warning probably being a way to make sure I didn't hurt myself, my elders strongly believed in this and would prove it by showing me where the Patupae Rehe

pooped. Oddly enough, at random times of the year, I can't wait to hear what this is about. Oddly enough, at random times of the year, a white, bulbously round donut poop would appear in and around the base of the tree. This would look as if to dry out, go chalky and be gone the next day. This poop was proof that the Patupae Rehe were around and resting in that tree. I was forbidden to disturb it in any way and traditional karaka, which are like incantations or prayers, sorry, incantations or prayers were performed to remove the poop. The Patupae Rehe that rested there never attempted to take me or my cousins, so they were left alone and the tree was there to rest when they visited. The poops, however, did stop when the tree was cut down and I never saw

the poops again. That is so fucking weird. That is interesting. Was it like maybe it was a fruit or something that fell from the tree? It could be. I mean, I don't know. It's interesting that it got chalky and disappeared, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I also had an Irish granduncle who was a staunch believer in the fairies and often said he had little Maori fairies in his garden. My aunt lived with Grandpa Khan with her husband, his son, and my younger cousin. My aunt told my grandparents about the Maori fairies, and though they initially didn't believe Grandpa Khan's stories, they did once my cousin started playing with these Maori fairies. I remember my cousin telling my aunt, who was his mother, that the little girl with red hair wanted him to go with her,

but he didn't want to. This coinciding with my hearing my cousin yell, leave me alone and go away earlier in the day while she was in the kitchen overlooking the empty garden. My aunt told my grandparents and not long after my grandfather with his entourage of elders herded out of their vehicles and into the garden. I don't know not to cut you off, but like what could be creepier is like what if it was just like somebody trying to kidnap the kid? You know, like that does my thought. It's like somebody on the other side of the fence, maybe or just like, yeah, trying to like lure them. Yeah, I mean, come over. Yeah. But I mean, that squares super hard with like also like the traditional more like Irish type of fairy, like yeah.

Anyway, where did I lost my spot now? Oh, yeah. Sorry. My aunt told my grandparents and not long after my grandfather with his entourage of elders heard out of their vehicles and into the garden. Now, Grandpa Khan, my Irish granduncle was out and didn't know about the coven of Maori elders banishing the fairies out of his garden until later that night when he went to feed them, Grandpa Khan would leave a saucer of cream every night for the fairies. I believe it's an Irish custom. And yet somehow he knew something was off upon my aunt telling him what had happened earlier in the day. Grandpa Khan fell into a rage and kicked my aunt and cousin out like they did to my fairies. He yelled at them while they were shoved out of the house. So I was told my uncle

managed to settle his father, but if they eventually moved out after the incident and Grandpa Khan would pass not long after. Damn. Many people still believe in Patupai Arehe today. Some stories speak of that, seeing them playing on misty days in the forest or protecting their sacred areas, making them still tapu even now. The many stories of Hunua Falls are worth reading about if you get the time. We have a tribe here called Ngai Tuhoe who have many Patupai Arehe stories. This tribe are also known as Children of the Mist as their tribal lands are in the heart of the Uruwera forests, a very misty forest. Pardon my pronunciation on this if I'm butchering it. And somewhat strangely, contrary to Maori customs, there is a children's show starring Patupai Arehe teaching kids about

the Maori language. Dude. Okay, rationalizing the existence of creation, rationalizing the existence or creation of Patupai Arehe is an interesting subject in itself. The strongest theory that I've come across is that Patupai Arehe may have been a way for early Maori to understand albinism. The lighter skin, pale hair, eye color, and light sensitivity being common traits of albinism. However, this doesn't explain the poop. I thought I have my suspicions that it may have been some weird puffball fungi we didn't know about. Who's to say? Anyway, thank you for taking the time to read this. Though I like to think I am a rational thinker, a man of science. In fact, I am culturally bound to these beliefs. And I would without a doubt be the first person

to chicken out if someone was to dare me to mess with the Patupai Arehe. There's just some things you don't mess with. P.S. And this is a this is a tip for this. The word that you were saying the other day, Taniwa, right? Yep. But how do you pronounce it? That's the real question. The pronunciation guide that they included is links to a broken link for me. But I want to I want to give it a shot. Oh, here it is. I got it. Oh, yeah. Taniwa. Say it one more time. Taniwa. Well, there's like an F. Oh, well, there you go. Yeah, I'll send you the link so you can teach yourself one day. I have many family stories of it. My my grandfather's sister lived on a lake that had one that would often save the

children that swim out too far. My tribe has a founding story that were that there were two fire Faniwa. Is that how you say it? Yeah, that's that's pretty close. Two fired Faniwa erupted our sacred volcano to warm up our chief who was cold stuff like that I can share at a later time. Pretty interesting stuff. That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. I thought just like another New Zealand cryptid right after we do it. It was like a really yeah, it's a neat one. I like it a lot. I love the idea of like having a founding story that's unique to your own tribe. That's like kind of neat to me. I like that a lot too. For this next one, Jesse, they specifically requested you to read this one. Me? Yes, sir. I love this. Oh, I didn't give you the name of this

one. Oh, well, my bad. Probably for the best. The dream is called the naked dream for Jesse. So probably the best. I don't know who this is. The Reddit name is Jen and Tonic. Great. Lovely. All right. I had this dream about a year ago, but remember it like it was last night. I was extreme. It was extremely vivid and one of the most detailed dreams I've ever had pretext pretext needed, huh? I am a voluptuous woman. Oh, no. I'm a voluptuous woman with a standing joke in life that I would have cleavage in a turtleneck. Not like this. Not like this. I'm just watching this watch. I'm just watching this wash over Jesse as he's reading it. Yeah, me too. I was ready. This is exciting for him. I feel, you know, that give a Michael Jackson

where he's eating the popcorn from Thriller? That's how I feel right now. I, oh boy. All right. Where was I? Sorry. In the dream, I am fully new. I'm fully nude sitting. I guess it is called naked dream. I'm fully nude sitting at a corner table in the mall of my childhood, people watching. I'm wearing an egregious amount of jewels and my hair and makeup are done to perfection. It's like Lady Godiva. Yeah. No one seems to care or notice my newness and I don't seem to be embarrassed at all or try to be covering up. Mostly I'm just contently drinking a Diet Coke and people watching. An older woman approaches me and states I needed to cover up as very upset. An older woman approaches me and states I needed to cover up and as very upset,

this brings attention from other shoppers and is, I guess, is very upset. Whatever. I think I look at her deadly eye and say, I'm wearing a full face and a lash. What the f more do you want? And I woke up. Let me know what you think. And yes, this is actually fine to read on the pod as it makes me laugh every time I think about it. Can I blow your mind? Oh, I'm going to totally ignore. I'm totally going to ignore the nudity part. Actually, I'm not because nudity is a sign of vulnerability. I love the literary like tea up that this dream is. You know what I mean? Yeah. But the jewels, right? Jewels are a representation in dreams of what's valuable and important to you. And the fact that you were layered with jewels upon your naked body, sitting in a mall,

which if you have dreams about malls, this is totally, this is the one I know the most, dreams about malls because I've had many dreams about malls. It represents you wanting to acquire something or obtain something of value that you need in your life. So you have a dream with your like in a mall. It means that there's something in that dream that you want, right? It's like the Amazon.com of your subconscious. Yes. Here's the thing though. You're in the mall people watching covered in jewels naked. To me, this says that you are very content. You're in a place where you want a bunch of stuff, but you're covered in the things that are valuable and important to you. And you're exposing yourself. You're vulnerable to the rest of the world. So you are

like in a content chill place and this lady comes up to you and it's like, how dare you when you're like, lady, give it the program. I'm doing all right. I'm letting you know. I think that's, I think that's what it means. I think it's, it's, that's why you enjoy it. And it's not like a terrible dream because you, it shows you just how happy you are with where you're at right now. It's almost like you're brain empowering yourself. Yeah. Absolutely. I love that. Look at that. Look at that positivity. That was a great interpretation of a dream that I was excited for. Russi, Russi, Jesse to read. Russi was very excited to read it. It's like the end of a Mega Man episode.

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Get on board at Miro.com with three boards free forever. That's M-I-R-O.com. This next one is called the Russian UFO by Small Moist X. Small Moist. Love that rapper. It's my favorite rapper on SoundCloud. Hey all, long time listener, short time writer. Before I start, I wanted to thank Mathis for being a bit of an inspiration with someone with ADHD and hope you guys enjoy this. Hell yeah, man. Neurodivergent people unite. Don't let that shit stop you. Do whatever you want. You can use this for the podcast, no worries. I grew up in a small town in Russia called Zelanograd. It's a relatively new town created in the 1960s. Originally, it was a small closed town since it

was reserved for institutes and research labs, and the only people living there were the staff. My family moved there right before I was born around the year 2000 after the town was open to general public. Even though the town became more open, it is still a hub of scientific research to this day. My friends and I used to sneak into old abandoned underground research facilities. This is fucking stranger things. That just sounds like a kid's dream come true. I would have loved to have something like that in my town I could have gone and explored. Abandoned Russian science facilities in your hometown? That sounds so wild. That would have been fun to grow up. No? No, Jesse, you're saying you wouldn't have enjoyed that as a kid?

Look, as an adult, that's dangerous. As a kid, I definitely would have gone. I'm no fool. But as an adult, I'm like, no, thank you. That's how I get like rabies. No, I'm good. That's your very primary concern. Yeah, rabies. I mean, like, what else would you get there? I don't know if somebody living there murdering you. No, that's the radiation would have killed them long ago. The upside down. If he gets sucked into the upside down. Okay, fine. A gorilla with a human brain who just wants to love and he wears like a big diaper that he poops in hugs you to death. He's like, I just want to love you. Yeah, I want. What is this in the reference to? Is this a joke you're just making up? Or is it referencing just a general

pulp? I mean, like, look, I thought of gorilla grom. That's why I was a little hellboy. You know, like, you know, we're in that round to be in media methods. You don't get it in the mix. You haven't seen enough TV. It's called cultural context. Okay. I've seen a lot of 90 day fiance. That helped a lot. That's true. Something. I don't know. I'm not sure what it helped you do. Get through the day, I guess. It literally helped me get through the day. We have to move on here. Yeah. Ever since I was a kid, I've struggled with insomnia. So I spent a lot of time sort of staring at the ceiling and doing nothing. One night, I think I was around nine at the time. I was trying to fall asleep and suddenly notice some strange lights. At first,

I thought I was dreaming, but then realized I was awake. At first, I saw a bright red light filling my entire room, sealing the wall across from the window being completely covered by it. After about 30 seconds and changed to either yellow or green. And before anyone says it, my window looked towards the inside area of the apartment block and there was no way any traffic lights were there. That's when I got curious and got out of bed to look out my window. In front of my window, there was a playground and a bit further, an apartment building about the same height as the one I was in. About 20 meters above it, I saw three lights in a horizontal line just sort of floating there, completely static. I kept looking at it for about five more minutes

when with no warning, it suddenly shot up directly into the sky at an acceleration that now is an older person. I realized is impossible. Whoa. There was there were no jet traces or any sound. I didn't think of it much as a kid thinking it was a weird helicopter or something and finally managed to go back to sleep. That exact event occurred for maybe four or five of the next days and it was exactly as described before. I didn't think of trying to do something different, but to be fair, even now I have no idea what I could do to maybe change the outcome. Afterwards, I never saw those lights again and only remembered them a few years ago. This is far from the only strange occurrence I experienced living there before moving to Europe

when I turned 14, but I think I'll save those for next time. Thank you all for reading. I hope you enjoyed this strange Russian UFO story. Yeah, that's it. Cool. Anyway, I don't know. I like the fact that it's kind of your typical UFO experience. It sits there and it hovers and it doesn't do anything. It just kind of zips off on its own. 90 percent of the people who see UFOs, it's usually something along the lines of its hovering or it's doing this little dance in the sky and just doing its own thing before it zips off. Sometimes it floats really slowly and then goes over the horizon. It's interesting because you're seeing these at a time where I imagine drones weren't really around. There's not a huge amount of drones in the year 2000.

Right. Were drones a thing in the year 2000 actually at all? I mean, they had been. Or consumer drones. Laboratory city or whatever, maybe. You know what I mean? But I don't know. I like this story because of the idea that it happened five days in a row. By day three, I would be losing my mind. The first day I would be like, that was crazy, but it was probably not what I think it was. The second day it happened, I'm like, oh my God, maybe this is what I think it is, but it's probably not going to happen again. So whatever. And then the third day, I would be like, I need to call the FBI. I would be like, I would be like fucking freaking out.

Yeah, I would do. I'm done. I just, that's every night I go outside to take my new puppies outside and every night I look into the sky hoping I just see that. That's all I want to see. I would be so content if that's the experience I had. You think the aliens would look out the window and like, that's a good boy. Yeah, but he's saying it to me. That's what I meant, obviously. Okay. Well, all right. I couldn't, I'm bad at that. You're like a little cute. You're like a little cutie for the aliens. Yeah. A little cutie with a little cuties. It's like when you see like a, like a wolf cub and like a mountain cat hanging out together. And it's like, oh, that's how they see you and your dogs. Yeah.

Yeah. Like two, two mammals hanging out. If freaking glip glorp came down from the space and scooped you up and you got put into what is essentially a pet habitat. Yeah. But it's like, you know, got grass, a nice house. You get fed every day. You don't have any neighbors. Yeah. It's just kind of you and maybe somebody else who's living there, but your life is amazing. You just get looked at every so often an exam. Sure. Would you want that? I would say yes. That sounds nice. You would do that? I would. I wouldn't do that. Yeah. You know, good glorp. Um, razzmatazz. I don't care who freaking abducts me, but if like, if they gave you a perfect, let's just say they gave you a perfectly like content life, would you take that? You had

to be their pet. I really, I really like earth though. Here's the thing. I probably, I'm a simple guy, you know, abduct me. You can get earth entertainment and all that stuff. That's true. I mean, I know, but I like, I have a lot of relationships like abduct me, do whatever you want. I would love, I would appreciate that. I give you a dollar nervously and then you can drop me back off at home. God fuck you. But like, but like real talk, like I would want to go home. I would, I would be happy to be up there. I would be like, wow, this is insane, but I would be like very, very horrified. I mean, I've been in a foreign country for like just a couple of days and it's like pretty hard to understand how far away my house is.

You know what I mean? Like it's pretty like a wild thought sometimes. I think how far away from home you are, you know? I don't know. I think being in space, it would be like being, it would feel suffocating the way it would feel to know I was at the bottom of the ocean. It would be scary. Interesting comparison. I like that. What about you, Jesse? Would you, I feel like you're also in the same boat. You would say no. Yeah. No, I'm all right. Why do you look so? Okay, but you're on the spaceship. It's real. What, and you're, and you're given the chance to live in the zoo or go home.

Oh man. It's like we're, it's already real. If it's already real and the aliens like you get to live in the zoo. Yeah. It's then I would want to represent like, whoa question. Day and day. Is there a breeding program in the zoo? Oh, you know, if it's graze, definitely. They want to maintain their zoo human population. That doesn't sound like a lot of like, as they call them. They got to keep taking care of their humans, as they call us. If that means I can stop actually working and just like, you ever see those fat gorillas in the zoo who just sit there like, if I could just do that, oh my God, I'm in. I could stay in those for hours. I love that. That's the offer. That's the offer they give you. You're gone from

everybody you know on earth, but you get the fat zoo gorilla. I'd be fine. I'd be fine. I wouldn't. There's too much I want to do. No, I'd be all right. I get to go to space. There's, I'd be the only, I'd be so fine with that. I'd be like, my parents would understand and everyone else f them. They'll find someone to replace me on the podcast. It don't matter. Irreplaceable. But that's the finale, dude. You get abducted. Jesse out of all three of us is the one abducted by aliens. I would actually phone call you. Not a text. I'd be like, I'm going over to spaceship. And they'd be like, this is Zipzorp. Get my kiss. Okay, Jesse, you're the most skeptic of us all.

Goodbye. Yeah. I just never knew what happened to him. Yeah. Our podcast like stops being like a weekly variety, like paranormal show and becomes like a murder podcast for just about Jesse. Yeah. Yeah. We have like experts like it sounds like Zipzorp is actually a real alien. We can tell like his voice was not made by human vocal cords. Then we have somebody like a different YouTuber come and show that it can be faked by like deep faking voices and they don't even be fake. That would be the greatest irony of all is if Jesse's disappearance was ruled fake because it was like a hoax from skeptics. Yo, speaking of that, can I just say if you want to have a weird watch that's super fun on Netflix is a documentary called Trust No One.

And it's about a the largest cryptocurrency theft in Canada, which is why I originally watched it because I was like, I got to know what Canadian cryptocurrency theft is like. All I'll say is it's about this dude who makes like an exchange and then he goes to India and dies and everyone's like, okay, well, can we get our money out at least? And his wife is like, I don't think I know about this guy. Yeah. I don't know how to access it. And everyone's like, does that dude just steal our money? Is he alive? And that's the premise. I will say it is 90% an excellent documentary. And then like all documentaries, the last 10% is like, oh, like, you know, there's never a satisfying ending in documentaries ever, ever. And so it's been like a couple and each one is

like ledge like remember the Jinx when they like that it actually was satisfying and you're just like, yes. Oh my God. Yeah. It's like one in a million, one in a million. But there is a group in this documentary and one of the guys wears a wolf mask and he's like, I've uncovered this. I know where he lives. I know that he is alive and I've uncovered. It's incredible. Or do they like, do they warp his voice? Oh, his voice is warped. He's in a wolf mask that looks like one of those like he's like from a cyber punk game. It looks like, dude, it's crazy looking. And he has a rabbit mask in the background, which makes him better. Dude, that reminds me of the Deathloop wolf mask party. Dude, I'm telling you, it's so crazy. And then there's like a doodle

is an LA who kind of is like a wacky guy. There's so many characters in this thing. And they're all just like, yeah, we just got into crypto. This one dude was like, I'm going to put four, I need to move to Canada. So I'm going to put $400,000 in crypto, then pull it out in Canadian dollars when I move to Canada. And he put it in, tried to take out five seconds later and it didn't come out. And that's how he knew he was getting scammed. He was like, oh, my God, it's crazy. That's what happens when you have an unregulated market. No, I mean, like that's his story. It's like they recreate it and it's, you know, whatever. Oh my God. I don't know the details of the story, but I think a couple of weeks ago, somebody lost $600 million. That was in a video game.

Yeah. And the video game. Okay. And, uh, yeah, I don't want to, like, I don't want to say we all know who that person actually was that lost the money. Yeah. But they may or may not have used to work at YouTube. So I don't know why I'm seeing that. All right. Jesse, you actually are taking this next one as well. What is this? A dream and a sequel. A dream and a sequel. Oh boy. That's what, yeah. By Perzl. Perzl. Hello. This is a dream I had several years ago, but now I still remember the details of it fairly vividly, which is very rare for me. The reason why this dream feels special enough to tell is mainly the fact that I remember it. So I think, you know, that's good enough for me. Normally I remember that I've had dreams to be twice per year, but I never remember any details

from them. With this one, I could recall it when I woke up and have not forgotten it since then. I originally dreamt this when I was around 25, I believe, which would be six years ago now. Damn. I can't remember a dream that I had two months ago. Really? I have, like, a couple dreams that have stuck with me. There's, like, five dreams I've ever remembered in my life. I would agree to that. I would say I have about five, but, like, none of them are this detailed. One time I shot my friends with a harpoon gun underwater. That was a dream I had. Hell yeah. Mine was, you know, mine was I was, I was drowning a baby as when I was babysitting them. What is happening to you? I'm dead. I'm dead. Fucking serious. I was a teenager and I remember I was drowning a baby,

but then I, like, realized I was dreaming. I was trying to wake myself up. I can't, here I am, like, I killed my friends in a dream and you're like, so there I was, drowning a baby. Like, you can't keep doing this. I'm trying to give you outs and you're like, so there I was, killing children. Like, what? I just have, like, my teeth fell out once. I was falling one time. I had a mall dream, which is why I know about the mall dream stuff. There's a girl that I liked and she was in a mall and I tried to grab her and I couldn't ever see her face. I always have hotel. Oh God, that's horrifying. Yeah. That's like inception or no, internal sunshine. Yeah. I always have hotel dreams. That's the ones that I remember. They're always in like a weird hotel that I have

the sense that it's on fire, but I don't know for sure that there's fire anywhere. But I think about it. Had one dreamer got stabbed in the gut and woke up with a stomach ache. That was pretty memorable. Oh, yikes. That's weird. Oh man. The dreams where you just get shot point blank and you just like I've never been shot point blank in a dream. Never. Oh, my dad shot me in my dream. He could also fly and he was like trying to find me flying around like Superman with a pistol. You know, like minding your own business in like fucking China somewhere and some dude in Metropolis has an idea and one second later, he's like, dodge this. I can't. That's basically what the matrix becomes.

The idea that you travel fast at the speed of like just pull out a pistol is one of the funniest things I've ever thought about. Superman with a gun. But he can like pull the trigger so fast it would be like a machine gun. That would go to slag. He speaks in the gun at the speed as much as I know about actual guns then. The NRA presents an association with DC Comics. Superman with a gun. Lex Luthor is fucked. I feel like that was definitely after the death of Superman when they had like 18 Superman comics and they were all different. I was definitely one. That was Superman with a gun.

I felt the Earth holding a gun. I was the I was the last son of Crypt Gun, Crypto Gun. My parents were venture capitalists who transitioned into the crypto lifestyle in 2021. Mathis is broke. I shot my broke bank robber in the head at age 10. I just thought it was funny. My dad could fly and shot me with a pistol. I hope somebody fucking draws that. That's so funny. Superman with a gun. What a great image. All right. He can shoot people in a single shot. Truth, justice in the American way. He can shoot tall buildings with a single gun. Yeah. He keeps rescuing his gun like he rescues Lois.

Now I'm just imagining him shoot the gun and then stand next to the person who gets shot like it's coming for you. He holds them in place once he shoots it. Superman with a nine millimeter pistol. We did it. I still can't believe we got this project done so fast and so well. When I'm in New York, I'm in Chicago and I'm in LA, but we're making it happen in Miro. Together. Our best work just happens faster on Miro's collaborative online white board. No more scheduling meeting after meeting for work that could happen from anywhere. Whether it's getting design feedback here. Mapping timelines here.

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Here's the dream. It started with me standing on the edge of a soccer field. It was the town I had been born in and moved away from when I was five years old. I still knew that this was the same soccer field and I knew it despite what my mind told me was a mountain on top of it. Okay. All right. The mountain was a great cube and without any question about it, I simply hovered up the side of the mountain, hovered up the side of climate. Yeah, great. When I reached the middle of the cube, a large section was cut out from it. In true dream fashion, I have very specific visual of how this looked. Imagine if you were to view this cube mountain from the side. If the mountain was

put on a three by three grid, the middle block and the block to the right of it were gone. Or number five and six, if you imagine your keyboard numpad as a three by three grid. I'm looking at it right now. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That's a great comparison. What actually made this odd, however, was that the soccer field had been moved up from the ground below into the cutout area of the mountain. It even seemed to have gotten an upgrade since I last saw it. It had seating around the edges and those sports arena floodlights. It was empty, however, and looking onto it from the side of the mountain, I felt like something was missing. After that, I simply hovered up further to the top of the cube mountain. I saw a simple playground,

a few platforms to jump between, a net to climb up, to climb on, and a small zipline for kids, much smaller than myself. I even saw some trash strewn around empty juice boxes and empty bags of candy for the most part. I then saw four small sleeping bags and at the side of them, I jolted awake with the realization I had dreamed this dream before when I was much younger. Whoa. I wonder if that is real or like a real moment and you thought it was a dream because it's a memory. What's interesting about that is the idea of the mountain, right? Well, arenas, any type of sports arena, anything is always about struggle and conflict, right? That's like the general notion. And then a mountain is about obstacles and overcoming that stuff. But the idea of the

playground and seeing the sleeping bags and seeing, it's like a memory of childhood and youth and like, you know, all the good times that you had maybe before the struggles and the obstacles. I don't know. That's interesting. Well, let's continue. Yeah. What I remembered from the chronologically first dream was that I was very young and at the same soccer field and at the same cube mountain. I floated up the side and came to the cutout portion where the soccer field now was placed. A man was standing in the middle of the field. He was dressed in a cowboy coat and hat, which immediately placed him as my grandfather in my mind as he was the only one who wore that kind of stuff in my life. Okay. His back was turned to me. He didn't move shortly after I

ascended the mountain at the top. I met three friends who the four sleeping bags. These are my dream friends who have no real counterpart. We played in the playground, ate some candy and drank from our juice boxes and eventually went to bed in our sleeping bags. At which time I have a memory of jolting awake being just five years old in my bedroom. That's where it ends for the dreams. That's fascinating. And then there's a little bit at the end and I'll save that for a hot minute. That's fascinating because it's like a follow-up to a dream, which I think is very rare, but also the follow-up could just be the memory of that dream incident, right? Like the idea that you have moved beyond the innocence of like hanging out with your friends and doing all that stuff.

And the man in the cowboy outfit that you place as your grandfather, cowboys usually in dreams are like the macho dude. They're like a representation of masculine masculinity. And so it's possible that that's how you saw your grandfather as like the tough guy. And maybe that's why you also placed it there. It's like he was what you thought like a man was at that time. And so yeah, maybe the reason why he's not in the second dream is because like you are now representing the grandfather role. Like if you have the dream again, look at yourself. Are you in the cowboy outfit? Are you a cowboy now? Yeah. And yeah, I don't know. I think it shows the idea that the soccer field now is more, there's more to it. I think it's like the soccer field

matured, right? Like more is happening to it. So this, the cube could be representation of your life and the struggles and things you overcome and how you easily surmount the cube and like you get up over it, but like, you know, you're older now. I don't know. There's a lot to work with there, but I'm curious what this last paragraph is because I see the first four words and I'm, all right, here we go. I can't believe aliens would abduct me twice and implant the same bad dream into me twice. You'd really think they had better quality control than that. Either way, I don't think this dream means anything. I don't think any dreams mean anything. Well, that defeats the whole purpose of me. What I think happened is my brain dream up a short dream

twice from the perspective of two different times in my life. At the time I was deep in the paint of Kingdom Hearts and a classic way of telling stories is the series deliver a mysterious cutscene. Then five years later, put the origin that cutscene into the actual game. Ouch. Maybe Tetsuya Nomura abducted you. Maybe. Anyway, this is obviously fine to read in the podcast, even despite it being on the longer side. Cheers. The thing that's most interesting is the cube to me. Yeah, me too. Yeah. It's such a cool visual. I think honestly, I think the cube bit might be the Kingdom Hearts bit. Like if you're saying I was playing a lot of Kingdom Hearts, the idea of that cube and the way that Kingdom Hearts is told, that may, like sometimes we take things that we

love and put it in our dreams because it's like on our mind. And so that could be, like Alex many times when we do dream interpretations, Alex does like, yeah, no, this, this is probably actually more accurate because it's like, this is what you were doing that day, you know, and it's possible. It's very possible that most of this is just like, you really like Kingdom Hearts. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. Like the big cube. I mean, that's very video game. I don't know. It feels, yeah, it feels video game to me. Yeah, especially because the cube is squared, you know, it's a three by three. And so you visually recognize that. And that seems like a battleground mechanic, like, you know, like a chessboard that you would see in, you know,

when Kingdom Hearts actually had like a plot, that kind of thing. No, it does not. All right. This next one was amazing. Oh God. Oh God. All right. This next story is the last story, Alex. It's a long boy and it's all yours. Yeah, I got you. First of all, shout outs to Kingdom Hearts fans. I talk, I bring shade, but I play Metal Gear Solid. So who am I to talk? Anyway, also nonsense story. This next one's called potential. She needed the bathing suit to breathe through her skin, Alex. It blew my mind. Trust me. It blew my mind. But that's not even, that's not even the mist, like. Yeah, that's like Tang. I can't go down this road right now. Potential Skinwalker by Upset Player. Hello. I want to start this off by explaining the title.

I'm using a nickname for the creature in this memory because I've heard that mentioning it by name in any fashion can summon it to you. Not that I'm too worried about that because I live in the middle of a small, busy town, but still better to be safe. Now for other notes, I have posted the story elsewhere, but I felt I should include it here too, because I've just recently found the podcast and it sounds right up your alley. Also, this is okay to read on the podcast, and I have no problem with you guys interpreting this as what you think it is, because I have no idea and I'm new to the supernatural world. Welcome. Welcome. Okay. I'm trying to understand what a small, busy town is, and I'm trying to wrap my mind around that. I guess it's just.

I would imagine it's like a lot going on. Yeah, like maybe it's like in the center of a very like, like, like a center part where a lot of highways kind of crisscross through. Like, there's a little town in Texas, Dayton, that's like, it's a small town, but it's busy because it's a lot of like travel kind of coast through that area. All right. There you go. Now to get into the real bit of this memory. The beginning of this takes place about five years ago when I worked security for a state park in Indiana. I'd worked for the park for about three years at this point and had never noticed anything strange like this before. I'd never even heard of anything like this at all in the nearby towns either, except for a few older men who just wanted to scare people.

It was the beginning of fall and the campground was still open for a few more weeks. It was late into the afternoon and we weren't terribly busy in the park itself, but our in was packed for a wedding reception that was happening the next day. I had worked nights the last week and was looking forward to the three days off I had coming up and this had been a relatively easy week though and I had been training a new security guard. I'll call him JJ. He was a nice young college student who was studying at the local university. He'd come to work at the park to help further his education. We just checked on the gatehouse closest to the campground where we got a call over our handheld radio. I responded and asked what was up. The in's manager came back with a

message about a young boy going missing from his group while they had taken a hike on the trails. His family had just returned to the inn without him and immediately noticed he wasn't there. Spooked. They reported it and we were called up to go look for him. I said we'd be on our way to the inn to meet with the parents ASAP and we left the gatehouse. It took roughly 15 minutes to get to the inn. I know time doesn't seem important, but it comes into play when we find out just how long this kid was missing and the kid's parents were waiting for us. We did a routine round of questions. Where do you think he went missing? What trails did you take? How long were you gone, etc. and found out what the boy had been wearing that he was eight years old and where they thought

he dipped off the trail. With the new information, we went back to the security building, a roughly five minute drive from the inn to get our trail authorized, our trail authorized vehicle and some medical supplies in case the kid had been hurt took maybe 10 minutes to get ready. At this point in the afternoon, it was starting to get a little darker and we had maybe three hours to find the kid before we'd lose most of our visibility. We were also getting worried about temperature. During the day, it had been a nice 50 degree day, but with the sun going down, it was dropping fast. If we didn't find the kid before we lost visibility completely because even with flashlights, it's hard to see in the woods after dark, especially the densely packed areas, we were

sure he wouldn't make it through the night. We hurried out onto the trails, racing the sun, and pretty easily found the trail the family had taken earlier that day. We started at the top and slowly made our way through the whole thing, calling the kid's name the whole time and making sure to look as closely as possible for any clues. Around an hour and a half in, we finally found something. And the briars along the edge of the trail was a kid sized jacket that had gotten stuck. Immediately, we jumped off the four wheeler and looked for other signs. After a 10 minute search, we found a small set of boot prints leading away from the jacket and further into the woods. We went back to the four wheeler and grabbed our flashlights and med supplies before following

them. We walked a good 20 minutes into the brush calling for this kid the whole time and following his boot prints. This is when Jay stopped and asked me if we should split up a little to make our circle a little bigger since it was just the two of us looking. I agreed, we stabbed a small knife into a tree so we knew where we'd started from, and he went left while I took right. Q another 15 minutes of walking and yelling, the sun has gotten lower and I've had to pull out my flashlight just to be able to see through the growing shadows. I'm beginning to lose hope and we know we have only a good 45 minutes before we have to go back and at least call for reinforcements with better gear before coming back out. And who knew how long that was going to take?

It could be too late by then. So I trudged on. I went maybe another five feet before I heard what sounded like a child crying not too far ahead of me. Thank God. I remember how my heart started beating rapidly. I called his name again, but he didn't reply, just continued crying. So I changed strategies. Insert kids name. My name is insert my name. I'm here to help you. Are you hurt? This time I heard, yes, please help me. I walk faster towards the voice. Where are you? What's hurt? I'm here. Walking faster. What's hurting? I need to know so I can help you better. I'm here. I felt like he was just around a tree in front of me. The voice was so clear and sounded so scared. I opened my mouth to call out to him again, but was interrupted by my radio crackling to life.

It was Jay. Hey, I found the kid. We're almost back to the four wheeler. We're almost back to the four wheeler. Where are you? My whole body froze. And I remember how cold everything around me suddenly felt. I know it must have only been seconds, but it felt like minutes that I stood there frozen. And I heard the most frightening thing I will probably ever hear in my life. And the reason this event sticks in my mind, even though it's been years since it happened, from right behind, it sounded like this kid was whispering into my ear. I'm five, six, I can tell you an eight year old that is that tall. I can't tell you an eight year old that's that tall. Aren't you going to help me? Every nerve in my body was suddenly telling me to bolt,

and I cannot tell you how quickly I ran out of that area. I didn't look back. I just ran. I wasn't even sure I was running in the right direction until I'd found the tree we dug the knife into. When I got to that point, I grabbed my radio and called to Jay to start the engine to be ready to drive. I never slowed down. And as soon as I burst through the trees and bushes, I jumped into the passenger seat and yelled at Jay to hit the accelerator. He did. And we peeled off that trail. We didn't slow down until we reached the actual black top and were more or less forced to slow down. From there, the rest of the trip was silent until we reached the in. We dropped off the kid with his parents, received thanks for finding him and went back to our

building. I never remember the trip there or what we told his parents. I don't remember the rest of that work night or really driving home. I was just trying to think about what had just happened to me. Had I almost died? What the hell was out there? Why did it sound like a kid? What did it want? I didn't know and I wasn't sure I wanted to know. The following week was filled with nightmares and uneasy days at work. About a month of this, though, after about a month of this, though, I quit and shortly after moved out of that city to a smaller one about one and a half hours away. I tried not to think about it much and eventually moved on and the nightmare stopped. Since then, I've gotten a loving boyfriend who I've moved in with and plan to spend the rest of

my life with. There you go. A new wonderful job. And it almost completely forgotten about that event. But a few weeks ago, Jay decided to throw a party and invited me and my ESO to it. I hadn't seen him or our friends for a while and he decided why the hell not. After a few too many drinks and some jokes, our job as security for the park was brought up since Jay's now working for the local PD. We laughed and joked about a few things that happened that night when Jay brought up that happened when Jay brought up that night. He asked me what I'd seen out there because I'd never said anything to him about it and refused to answer his questions about it. I said I wasn't sure. Must have been some weird mangled cougar or something and shrugged it off, not really wanting the memories to come

back. But then Jay said something that brought them all back in vivid detail. Yeah, must have. I remember it came out after you. It was pretty deformed and gross looking for a cougar though, might have had mange. Thank you for reading this. If you got this far, I'm a big fan of the podcast and I've already binge listened to most of it. Can't wait for Alex's JFK series and more histories, mysteries from Jesse. I also have several reoccurring nightmares not associated with this if Jesse or anyone else would like to interpret them. There you go. That's like, yeah, go ahead, Jesse. I got chills. Here's the thing. I got chills at the end. That was like a like spooky campfire story. Right? That was great. That's how it comes off. Yeah. I almost wanted to like, I'm going to

Google this. Is this a story? Is this like a campfire story? But I don't want to Google it because they don't want to ruin it for me. That was great. That was like actually very well read and told. That was fantastic. Solid. I love it. It's like very typical skin walker encounter if those things are real. And I yeah, that when I read that, I was like, this is cool. It's like an SCP or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, very much so. Well, thank you everybody for dropping all those stories. We couldn't get to all the ones that I grabbed today, but I'm sure there'll be another episode a couple months in the future. We are going to head off to patreon.com slash Luminati pod to record our mini-sode. And don't forget May 26th, if you can get to Austin, Texas, live near Austin, Texas or at Austin,

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