Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 156 - The Kentucky Cannibal Part 4 - FINALE

Episode Date: June 8, 2022

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what I thought was going to be a two-parter that ended up turning into a three-parter that forced its way into a four-parter. You did like, you like, okay. You were like, I don't know if I should just end this right now or here's three other fucking unbelievable things that you guys will definitely want to hear. Should I do it or not?

Okay, well, that is going to continue today because God, man, his life is fucking crazy. And we're going to continue with the story of Boon Helm. So in this final episode of the story of Boon Helm, aka the Kentucky Cannibal, we will observe with great interest, Boon's extremely violent and equally ridiculous last few years of his life,

where even his very last moment of life, the last breath he lets out, seems to be tailor-written for him by a Hollywood author. It fits too well, much like we said, Tommy Patera's life almost fits to a movie. Boon Helm's life could either be, would be like a dark comedy, I feel like.

If it was to be made into a movie, I think it would be like a dark serial killer kind of comedy with just how inactive this man is. Like a Coen Brothers movie? Yes, sure, yeah, like a Coen Brothers movie. They did that recent Adam Sandler one, right? What? No?

What Adam Sandler one? Oh, the one where he was serious, uncut gems, that's the one. That was Coen Brothers? No, that's the safety brothers. You were there, you were there. I was, there were brothers involved. I just heard there were brothers involved.

Yeah, that's true. Brothers were involved. But yeah, before that, we actually must, we gotta rejoin Boon when we last left him. Being run out of Salt Lake City by the very Mormons who just hired him as an assassin to kill two Christian landowners, they believed were encroaching

into their God-given territory of the Comstock load mine, which was a recently discovered silver mine. What they assumed was a man who'd been so adept at killing that he'd never get caught, ended up being a man who drew the shortest line between himself and his target before pulling the trigger and killing whoever was supposed to be put in the ground.

And after Boon had returned back to his employers, after gunning two men down in the middle of the street, expecting a hero's welcome, money, women, and a life of luxury, only did he find that he got run out of town because there were still laws in Salt Lake City and Boon didn't kill his targets quietly or subtly. And so after that,

Boon was very quickly run back into the wilds of Utah. Fucking Mr. X over here, just dsh, dsh, dsh. Fucking insane person. What did he think it was? What do you think the job was? The job was to kill them. They just didn't give him explicit directions to do it subtly.

That's like a bit from Terminator 2 when he doesn't understand human slang. Yes, he's walking and dead. Yeah, he did his gun into all of them. Or Batman and Robin when he didn't understand human slang. She's out. She's running because I made the ice.

I am Mr. Freeze. Get it? I saw that movie in the drive-in with my family. It was a good film. That says a lot about you. What? Wait, what does that say about me? You saw in the drive-in. It says a lot about getting quaint upbringing.

I love that. I love that about you. At a quaint. Your regular Beaver Cleaver. Yeah, I think that's great. Yeah, yeah, we'll go with that. It was a typical Beaver Cleaver lifestyle. So with Boon heading back into the wilds of Utah,

we kind of fall into a sort of silent period with Boon Helms' known history. We know he survives, but what he does during this time in the wilderness is sort of unknown. Though from his history of how he survived before, I guess we can kind of deduce it wasn't really sitting by a campfire

and singing Kumbaya. He was probably robbing, killing and eating whatever he could get his grubby little paws on. Tam. When Boon does pop. Editorial license. Yeah, definitely. That's my assumption.

We don't know. He's fucking disgusting little mitts. Listen, I am just, you know, I picture Boon as like a wild man who doesn't actually ever bathe. His sticky little fingers. When Boon does pop back up in history again, it's with an encampment of day night vigilantes

waging war on the new nation. It's highly unlikely that Boon stumbled across them and was able to work his way into their ranks naturally. So the assumption that historians have made about it is that Boon still had some allies left maybe amongst the Mormons who were able to put them into contact with these folk, assuming that their violent war

in Boon's violent lifestyle would form kind of like an unholy union of sorts. And he'd maybe get like put on a path that was more suited to his family. Just a violent unholy union. Who the fuck are these Mormons that are like, you know, brother, it is pretty cool that he did kill those two men.

I would say that's fairly badass. Like, what is, why would they still like him? I mean, this is all assumption. We don't have records. We just, I don't, you know, it's just like what people kind of are assuming. And I like, historically, I think we look at as like culturally look

at Mormons as like, you know, super nice, not drinking sodas, that kind of thing. But like historically, in order to claim their spot of land in the United States, Mormons like tore it up. They were like, you wanna, you want, no, it's our land now. You get off and we'll kill you. Like that kind of stuff. Oh, I guess.

Which reminds me a small correction from last episode. I said that Joseph Smith was still alive. He's dead at this point. Yes. He never made it to Salt Lake City. He never made it. He got killed. Did you not see Book of Mormon?

He got killed in like a violent like village fight. When he got shot. I did not see Book of Mormon. On his way to Salt Lake City. Yeah, yeah, he got shot. That's, yeah, I completely mixed that up. Please. You guys ever heard the Beach Boys song

about Salt Lake City? No. No. It's a little bit of a bummer. I don't know, look it up. That's really okay. They're like, yeah. They're like, Salt Lake City.

It's pretty, it's weak, man. It makes it, it doesn't sound fun. Even with that small like little note, I can definitely hear the Beach Boys in that. You know, it's got that haunting. Salt Lake City. Yeah, that haunting like carried tune. I don't like it.

Check it out. Check it out. Well, while he was with the militia, it seemed like the Mormons were right for a time that he did sort of fit this lifestyle. Alongside this militia, Boone would soon reinforce his already racist belief, belief with those who his spouse loved for the Confederacy.

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at Inspiresleep.com. And now kind of a small trigger warning for some people in the next bit of an explanation of what Boone was doing at this time. While it was common for the militia men after defeating a village of native people to rape the native women and pass them from man to man to, quote, unquote, improve their morale,

Boone seemed to have a much bigger interest in torturing the women that found their way into his captivity. The soldiers noted that whenever a woman got passed off to Boone, there was little left for the next man to enjoy and he mutilated them too much to be beyond recognition. And this noted example in particular is why in the last episode, I pondered if Boone actually was like the true definition of like a serial killer,

one who does it more for the pleasure aspect rather than the impulsivity reasons. Moreover, if these stories are accurate, then Boone would seem to fall into a mixed category of process killer when he had the safety of doing so and product killer when time was short and his survival was more important. For those who don't know, a process serial killer

is one who drives his or her sexual pleasure, usually sexual pleasure, from the process of brutally torturing and controlling their victims until they die. Well, product killer is one who wants what comes after the kill. They don't take any pleasure in the actual murder. They want the body or the valuables or whatever it is that they're after afterward.

And my amateurish opinion, notably, obviously, is that Boone was wholeheartedly a process killer inside who was forced to be a product killer when the wilds forced him to do that. Is it possible to transfer between the two? Like... Yeah, that's what I'm... Yeah.

Have you ever heard of Jar Jar Binks? I mean, just the way that... The wise... The way that you talk about it in the beginning is the things he does, like he's already a brutal human being to begin with. And he's clearly self-centered and selfish. And so the idea of him killing a person

to eat them to live to him makes sense because he's trying to stay alive and he's the most important person in that situation. And so all the things he does in order to stay alive in that initial thing is because I'm looking out for me. And is there a certain point, perhaps, while killing and eating or whatever, where you're just kind of like...

I just murdered that person. Like, that was wild. I kind of want to see what that was like. You know, like that kind of thing where suddenly you're now like, oh, I'm into the intricacies of what just happened. Like, I cut that person's leg off and he was fine. He lived.

So like, can I hurt a person? You know what I mean? Yeah, well, you're right. Because a lot of serial killers do go through that ramp-up situation. And almost always a serial killer's first kill is accidental. Or at least they've set themselves up

to where it's so much easier for the accident to happen. And once, like you said, they have that happen, that triggers that release, and they realize how much they love it. That's usually what triggers them falling into the phase of a true serial killer. And if we look at Boone, you know, we look back at the first episode

when he was a kid who had to be, who would beat people to death and had to be pulled off. He was clearly enjoying the violence, even as a kid of just the process of beating somebody ruthlessly and inflicting pain upon them. And if anybody got in the way, he went out of his way to go beat the people

who pulled him off the person. He was beating. Either that or he was just like real dumb. Like, just really did not care. You know what I mean? I'm sure that's a huge part of it. I mean, again, he was getting into lots of fights. I'm sure he got knocked in the head a bunch of times too,

which is very typical for a killer. But yeah, Jesse, yes, to kind of go round back to your point. Yeah, killers can waft back and forth and discover new things about themselves when they make that first cross. They first crossed that line. And I do wonder if the first time he ate somebody or kept that guy alive,

another like flip switched or switch flipped in his head. And now he had something new that he was like, I love this. Yeah. I mean, it's just the more I think about it, the more it seems like a guy who, when you talk about the way he suddenly was like, oh, I'm gonna torture people.

It seems like in his mind, the torture is the experiment of like, oh, I cut off that guy's leg and I was gonna eat him a whole like, what are the pain thresholds? What is it like when you do this? It's like, you know, it seems in his mind, like a totally normal thing to do

because he's learning, right? But in reality, it's like, you're a butcher, bro. You're terrible. It's also like for him less about being a connoisseur and more just about like the power that comes from like the definite win that is killing someone. Well, you know, it's the same vibe as the like Nazi doctors who would torture and hurt people in their mind.

They're like, I'm doing this for science, but also I really like doing this. You know, like it's that they can justify it. Mangala is like such a perfect example of that. Yeah, they can justify the terrible things they've done because in their mind, they're like doing it for a better thing, but also this guy just kind of like enjoys it.

He likes it. And it doesn't hurt that he constantly is getting away with everything. He just keeps slipping through the cracks and he has no consequence for this man's actions. He's starting to feel invincible, but he's still within the militia. He's obviously extremely violent

and too violent for the people he's working with to the point where eventually the militia removed him from a lot of the group's assaults and activities and would send him out with one other scouting partner for expedition scouting missions for days at a time just to get rid of them and just separate him from the army. Eventually the solitude and lack of camaraderie got to Boone

and he decided to simply abandon his post one day and wander back into the wilds to head back toward Oregon where the wistful memories of being a bandit king in the streets drew him like a siren song. Ah, I loved it when I used to be able to kill people and not get in trouble for killing people. Literally like that. Not even that, but he missed like the money

and the power that came with it and not like being beholden to another army. Yeah, it probably felt like his fucking glory days vibes. Yeah, bingo. That's exactly what it was. He was very wistful for his glory days. And for whatever reason, another feather in the cap of serial killers,

he was able to convince his scouting partner to dip with him that very same day and bring him along on the trip to Oregon at all with him, which also to me feeds into that. Boone is a very clearly a narcissist because he needs a source. He needs a supply to feed off of. This man lives and dies by his reputation.

He likes being seen for the monster that he is, which is why when the militia separated him, he's like, this sucks. Nobody's like, like being odd at how crazy I am or how all the stories he tells people when he goes into town. And so this guy, he was able to convince this guy to come along with him

and now he's got like a lucky number two that'll like worship him all along the way. The bandit life suited them for a while until the winter once again began to settle in. And it seemed Boone had finally learned his lesson. The duo eventually made their way to a small outpost called Antler Creek where they spent their ill-gotten gains on food,

drink and a warm bed, while filling their ears with the local rumors which miners passed through and how long ago. It's like one of those like, you know, stop and sleep for a night or two and keep moving. It's here in Antler Creek that the two of them learned of a small French mining crew that had just passed through Antler Creek

with a ton of gold dust, which is what the two of them were after because gold dust was, gold dust was worth a lot of money and way easier to carry than bars, nuggets and other things. And the crew was on their way to Quesnal Forks for the winter along with another pair of miners heading the same way. And I think you're gonna love these names by the name of Irish Tommy and W.T. Collinson.

You know what? I didn't think you knew better than Irish Tommy but when you broke out the W.T., I knew all bets were off. Those are like red, dead-averse O.C.s. They're like a little bit too colorful cowboy character names. D&D Cowboys names. Amazing. Now Boone is partner, new of their next target

and left before long to catch up with them before they got to Quesnal Forks. They wanted to catch them and rob them before they got to stow away and be safe for the winter. Unfortunately for the French crew being led by and by the man of the name of Suckalosky. I'll do the S.O. Suckalosky?

Suckalosky was leading the Frenchman crew. My name is Penis Suckalosky. He's Frenchman though. Oh no, okay I'm out. Yeah, he's French. So he wasn't French but the other two men in his crew were French. Oh, okay, no, you're right.

He's me, Penis Suckalosky. And then it's too French guys. Like he's the crazy name, no? Well unfortunately for the Suckalosky. I don't know. Suckalosky was actually the only English name that's Suckalosky. Suckalosky was...

I keep interrupting yours. No, he's a beat. He's no worry. He's no worry. Don't be Americans always interrupt my beats. Suckalosky was actually the only one in the crew that spoke English. The two Frenchmen did not speak a lick of English.

So that's the guy that's good. So they couldn't make fun of him for having the last name Suckalosky. And more notably to Irish Tommy and W.T. Collinson, they were extremely slow walkers. Irish Tommy has a six gun with a big green, like diamond shamrock on the side. Absolutely.

And he wears like extremely colorful clothes. He looks like an end game character. W.T. has a monocle. I don't care why or how he has a monocle. He's like an oil baron in battle armor is what he is. Yes. He's a fucking Borderlands boss. Yes, yes, absolutely.

Well, Suckalosky and his Frenchmen crew were slow hikers and they were ready to set up camp well before Irish Tommy and Collinson were. So in the campsite that they chose was Alex. And the campsite that Suckalosky and the Frenchmen crew chose was not safe according to Irish Tommy out on the open and they could still make more progress if they just kept marching.

So Tommy and Collinson continued for three more miles before they set up their own camp themselves way more hidden and way more safe. This would only spell doom for Suckalosky and crew because late at night, as they were winding down for the evening, Boone is wacky, walked into camp, guns a blazing. All three of the men were killed

along with all of their horses and mules. Whoa. Yeah, they didn't have any attempt at like words with these guys. What the fuck is going on? Boone and Boone and his and his, we don't have a name for this guy. So we're just calling him Boone and his buddy.

The sheer audacity of these motherfuckers. Yeah, they pocketed as much of the gold dust as they could but ended up with over $30,000 worth of gold dust and valuables that was just loaded on the mules and the horses and not wanting to stick around the crime scene for long because obviously it was a hot crime scene. They went and became a pirate with it

and they took the treasure off road and buried it a good ways away with the intentions of coming back for it weeks later after all the heat has died down around the fresh murders of three miners. That's like a year's salary in today money. I know. And it was, yeah, I'm curious what that was in like,

oh man, let's look real quick. $30,000. 1850, we'll just say to now, that's over $1.1 million in cash basically is what we're looking at. That's so much money. All just buried on the side of the road. As for the bodies though,

they didn't bother even hiding them. They just left them out, splayed open to rot in the wild only to be discovered the next day. In fact, you can actually go see their graves. They're still marked to this day that the people who were, the three people who were killed by Boone Helm.

One of them was, Sokolovsky, I think it was, was Jewish. So he couldn't be buried in the cemetery. So he got his own special grave and he got his own special ceremony to bury him back then, back in that day in the 1800s. Irish Tommy and Collinson, however, only learned of the fate of these three men the next day

after they'd arrived in Cuesnel as the three corpses were carted into town after they had arrived. Yeah, maybe I'm just dead in my soul now because of how much just utter despair has come from all these murders. That makes me so happy. But I think that from now on,

if you just made all the names this silly, that I would be less, like it would be less of a bummer for me to sit through these like horrific tales if everybody's name was like fucking the Irish Tommy and shit. Also, you know, it used to be almost 200 years ago, you know, where there's been enough history and time between these horrific things

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the bandits who committed these murders might still be close or worse, still looking for them to find and rob them next. But the mysterious culprit wouldn't be mysterious for very long. Boone's own reputation was no longer working in his favor. And now the inevitable wave, but now having become the inevitable wave of his demise.

Within hours, word of the infamous criminal and murderer, Boone Helm, having left Antler Creek, swaffed its way into Quesnell in the town very quickly mustered up a $700 bounty for the capture of Boone. Many assumed he'd head toward the water. And when the posse had been mustered, that's the direction they went.

While Irish Tommy and Collinson made a decision to continue down the path they intended to try and put as much distance between them and Boone Helm as possible, purely out of fear. And they pushed for days with no sign of Boone or his murderous companion the whole while. And as they had finally felt they'd put enough distance between them and the town,

the muzzle of a double-barreled shotgun was shoved into Collinson's back for a Boone's voice. While Boone's voice grumbled, put your hands up. Tommy and Collinson were robbed. But in a very rare case when it comes to Boone Helm, their lives were spared. When they were finished robbing both Tommy and Collinson, Boone simply commanded, quote,

get down and don't look back while Boone and his partner walked off. Collinson would go on to wonder or suspect that they may have been out of ammunition, but I'm not entirely sure about that knowing Boone's penchant for violent slaughter. Boone seemed to love to kill no matter what. So even if he was out of ammo,

I wonder why he decided not to just like end their lives there, knowing Boone's history. It's just curious that he got to live to tell the tale. So this one of Boone's victims, actually, you know, we have firsthand experience with it. Coffee sip. The next time we know of Boone and his friend were when they arrived across the border

from US to Canada in Victoria. Did you just like fucking made it? The schedule got out of there. I need to ask, I need to ask, I need to ask, is there a Kentucky in Canada? No. Yeah, Kentucky, BC. Do you think before we get to the end of this episode

that we will make our way back to Kentucky? I don't think it's going to happen. I'm almost convinced it's not going to happen. What are you, Alex? What are your bets? There's going to be some other reason that he's called Kentucky. It's going to like end up at Kentucky Fried Chicken or something like that. Kentucky Cannibal is so far.

He's going to turn out to be the kill the colonel or some shit. Like, like, I don't know what the fuck is going to happen. All right, we'll see what happens. So yeah, he kind of goes silent again after this robbing and he pops up weeks later in Victoria, Canada. Now, it's here his reputation had not quite yet caught up with him. And once again, the two of them had a place to rest, relax and do their favorite thing, drink.

And without skipping a beat, Boone fell back into old habits, running up a huge tab at the local saloon. And when the bartender came looking for the money Boone owed, Boone simply replied, quote, don't you know, I'm a desperate character. Get out of my fucking face, boss. This, however, did not phase the bartender, who simply sent a boy out to go grab a sheriff by the name of Blake. While the town themselves may not know and may not have known

who the name Boone Helm was, Sheriff Blake had heard that who was in town and knew of the rumors that followed that name. He knew he had a serious criminal on his hands. While he had known of Boone, he also had no evidence that would hold in court. So when he went to arrest Boone, which he did, he could only legally hold Boone for three days before Boone was brought before a judge for his unpaid bar tab. And Blake did the only thing he could think of doing.

And he sent men out. He sent men out across the border to see if they could get a proper extradition request from the USA to hopefully get Boone in proper custody and put away for a life. What over that? Well, no, he not over the unpaid tab. The sheriff knew of Boone's history. He just had no evidence. This is like they're trying to bring down Capone.

They're like, you know what, we're just taxes. Just get him in prison. They're trying to bring down Capone, except it's just like a fucking dumb ass. It's crazy. This is crazy. He has no evidence of crimes in Canada. He knows of the rumors because the rumors have made their way from from traders and miners across the border. All right, there's rumors of this man going around doing terrible stuff.

And everyone's just kind of like, you know what? Invite him into town. Maybe he'll kill some people for us. The locals hadn't heard of it. The sheriff had. Like the locals weren't really aware of Boone at this point. Oh, my God. You also have to give him this is the Wild West.

News travels way slower than it does now. And only like you don't know what's rumor and what's not. People are making up shit about themselves all the time to sound way more badass than they actually are. That hasn't changed. That shit's still going on. Exactly. Humans are being humans 200 years later. And so we had three days. He had three days.

He sent out men on horseback hoping to let the US know, hey, we've got Boone Helm, this guy who's murdered a ton of people. Do you give us an extradition request? And he's yours because they got to do it legally. And for three days, Blake sat and watched Boone rot in his cell, who had quickly gotten himself a lawyer under promise of a big payday when he was released and his lawyer and Boone's lawyer went by the name of Mr. Bishop. Once I can't miss the ship.

This is the most well written story I've ever heard in my entire life. It's fucking stupid. It's insane to me. You think it's better than Tommy Pateris? Much better. Tommy Pateris was great, but this story has got character names. Tommy Pateris had to work. He was disciplined. He had skills. It makes sense why he was so successful.

He was trained to be a killer. He spent his life becoming a murderer. This guy just was like this. Comments failed up to serial killer. It's hard. It's impossible to think that this guy got as far as he did. This guy sucks. It's great trying to forget this man for a reason, I think I'm trying to forget this man.

So once those three days were over and men had not returned from the U.S. with the next tradition crew request, it was brought before a judge. Blake empty handed beyond the crime of an unpaid tab. And with the blustering arguments of Mr. Bishop, Boone was essentially given the harshest punishment he could receive for money owed. He was stuck in jail for four weeks unless he paid a fifty dollar bond. That's all it took.

The funny part was Boone was fucking broke. He had spent everything he had in town on drink and women and was unable to pay the fifty dollar bond while his lawyer slowly came to the realization that he had no money to pay him. Now. And now, though, Sheriff Blake received a reprieve. He had four more weeks to hear back from the U.S. for extradition and he'd finally had hope that he would have enough time

to get Boone properly behind bars. During this time, Boone would be put on a chain gang and sent to work mining and chipping away at rocks and shit for four straight weeks. And those four weeks came and went. And on the last day, Blake had to hand back every weapon. Boone had had confiscated from him and watch him strap all of his arms back on. He's absolutely insane. And watch as Boone left town, a free man come on a word from the U.S.

for extradition on eventually, however, crazy. Sheriff Blake would hear word and it was exactly what he had hoped and expected. It was a letter for extradition that found its way into Blake's lap three days after Boone had been sent free. This is like the end of usual suspects. This is insane to me, though. This is like he's the luckiest idiot that ever lived. I can't believe this guy sucks going because during those four weeks

of chain gang imprisonment, Boone had been put who had had became very close friends with another man by the name of Dirty Harris. Cool. No. Cool. A real dirty Harris became extremely close. We talked about this already a little bit. I teased about him in the end of last episode, because I was going to just blast through this. Right.

Dirty Harris was so close with Boone that he considered Boone his brother at the end of their imprisonment together. They were released on the same day and met up outside of town where Boone learned that Dirty Harris was the owner of a pack train that had been kept running while he was locked up, not wanting to leave his newfound brother behind. Boone was actually able to travel on this train with him, planning to head back to Antler Creek to unburry the $30,000

in valuables that were waiting for him. But unfortunately for Boone, he wouldn't be able to cross the border before running into a familiar face, W.T. Collinson. W.T. Collinson was in Sumas, which is a part of Canada. And instead of keeping his head down this time like he did last time and leaving this time, Collinson alerted the authorities and the British put together a hunting crew to go out and arrest Boone for proper extradition to the U.S.

And so Boone was immediately forced again into the wilderness from the train, unable to spend time in the town. And this time he planned to go alone, but Dirty Harris would have none of it. Boone was. Sorry, Dirty Harris. You can't keep saying Dirty Harris. I can because I like the name. But Dirty Harris.

Shoot. Dirty Harris. Make my afternoon. Tommy W.T. Collinson. To Dirty Harris, Boone was his brother now. And if that meant leaving his own, his well-owned train behind, then so be it. And after all this time, Boone still had no idea how to survive in the wilderness. And now he was leading Dirty Harris to live in the wilds.

In the meantime, this guy, dude, he sucks. Once again, history loses touch with Boone at this point. The next time he pops up is weeks later toward the end of the British attempts to find him. As they were days as they were days away from ending their hunt, they stumbled on a familiar sight to us at this point. A thin, malnourished, exhausted Boone whose clothing hung from his limbs and with Dirty Harris nowhere in sight.

Much like before. What the fuck? Much like before Boone simply gave himself up willingly. And when asked about where his partner was, he replied, quote, Why do you suppose that I'm full enough to starve to death when I can help it? I ate him up, of course. No. I don't even know what to say.

This guy just never he got his cake and he ate that shit. Yeah, yeah, it's name had a name, that cake. And he ate it. It was it was the only thing he was the only thing that was tasting of those he ate. You know, the little Barry, he little Barry. Oh, he didn't. He just murdered him. Yeah, he ate the the miner that he shot from the hill. Remember, the guy shot in the head.

Yeah. And then he ate Burton and then he ate Dirty Harris. Oh, yeah, Burton, Burton's a survivor. Burton's got a lot of meat on his bones. Yeah. Yeah. He really wanted to preserve Burton. So yeah, it makes sense. Yeah. Dirty Harris became meal number three. And we will never know if he got to do what he wanted to do with Burton,

where he kept him alive over the course of days. We don't know if it was similar like where maybe Dirty Harris just died in an accident and he just didn't let the corpse go to waste. Like we don't know he never Boone never elaborated on what happened beyond that. Because basically from this point on, Boone, once again, gave himself up. He didn't resist. He assumed that, you know, this was it.

He was done for if he didn't give himself up because he was in the wild. And Boone was actually finally 100 percent caught. And the U.S. was going to extradite him back where he would live out the rest of his days rotting in a prison and likely hung. If you tell me that this motherfucker breaks out of prison and eats a man named Ken Tucky, I'm walking off of the show. No, Alex, don't put that out there. No, I'm walking off of the show.

I didn't even think about that. Oh, no, Ken Tucky. I'm a little did you know I hid the title from you and that it's two separate words of proper noun and the next few weeks through horseback and train rides. Boone was watched over by a bunch of guards, but one singular one who much like the guards from before kind of grew friendly with Boone, sharing cigarettes, swapping stories, drinking whiskey. But unlike the one from the mental facility,

he never felt the need to take off Boone's handcuffs or give him an Iota of freedom because Boone's reputation was so well known at this point. And so through horseback and ferry over the course of weeks, Boone's Boone did end up being extradited back to the US into Port Townsend, where it was to be his final home among many other criminals. In fact, the prison within Port Townsend was notoriously overfilled with way more prisoners than the guards could reasonably keep track of. And watch over something Boone noted instantly come on.

Just wait. Within days, Boone had acquired himself a knife and spent each night digging away a small secret tunnel just under where he slept. Eventually, Boone was able to slip out and it would be three days before they even noticed he was missing and a whole extra day before they found and realized there was a hole hiding all under the rags shoved into the corner of his room. I can't.

He out and he do framed and he do frame. I just I can't. I don't know. I don't know how to I don't know how to like respond to this. The man. He's not a good man, but hell is he let alive? Holy shit, I can't get over it. It there's more.

This is more this is more. This is the gambler. It's not so much more weird. This is the song to get a person. No, it's what? This is the gambler. The gambler. This is we're barreling toward the end of the story here,

but there's still more to go. Now, not only had he dug a tunnel under his own cell walls, the tunnel extended past the building and under the exterior prison walls as well. Oh, bro, it was a huge tunnel. So clearly his mining experience gave him a little bit of know how to get him out of there. And apparently, according to the to the records,

the tunnel was super tiny, like only he could have fit through. Like, I imagine it was one of those ones where he did need to like let his breath out. He's like, what the fuck, dude, it's nuts. And Boone was once again a free man. And with four days head start, the prison decided that there was no way even on horseback that they were going to be able to catch up to him. And so they let him go.

I hate this guy. You have to keep in mind, too, at this time, I believe I'm correct. You feel free to email me at shillimanati.com to let me know. I'm wrong. Yeah. But I believe at this time it was still legal. Like it wasn't like an extra criminal offense for prisoners to attempt to escape because freedom was like a natural impulsive man, according to the law. Yet we can do a quick Google.

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He got out when it used to be legal. They got good. God bless in the US. I'm now I'm like, I have to look that up now. You wanted it bad enough and he did it. Eventually it became a felony. He would have died himself. He could do anything. I say, God bless him.

But now guess what? Boone's back in the wilderness. Boone's back, baby. Boone is back in the wilderness. And as far as we know, Boone once again took up to his normal shenanigans of being a robber and murderer, surviving in the wilds for the best, the best as best as he could. As you would, as you would, of course, as you would.

But Boone had become much more paranoid as the past months and years had gone on. And instead of being more confident about approaching, I was going to say, wild bandits approaching bandits out on the roads or attempting to murder somebody and take their camp, he hid never using a fire to warm himself at night or cook food, finding small hidden away enclosures or or more particularly sleeping under haystacks of fields he found on his travels.

Eventually his wandering would find him out in Florence and. Not a lawman, not a bounty hunter, as he worried, but a rancher stumbled across poor old Boone Hill, who at this point, popping up in history again, looked malnourished, exhausted and beaten from trying to survive in the wilds by himself. For God knows how long that man's name was Ken Tucky. No, though, that would be amazing if it was.

No, this man's name was Mr. Brandian. Say that again. Mr. Brandian. Brandian B R A N D I A N. Oh, he's a Vulcan. Yes, he's a Vulcan, correct. Brandian. Yeah, Mr.

Brandian was the man that kind of like stumbled across him and saved him. He felt pity for him and offered him a retreat. Mr. Brandian took Boone under his wing back to his huge ranch. And it's here Boone realized Mr. Brandian was extraordinarily wealthy. Not only that, but he had a respect for people who were the way you would call a cowboys, I suppose, warriors of the Wild West, people who sought and appreciated their freedom more than anything else.

Cool. And for that, he enjoyed Boone's company. He offered Boone a soft, warm bed. They played cards every night for weeks, swapped stories, drank expensive brandy and whiskey and genuinely enjoyed each other's company. Boone was living in the lap of luxury, all because a rancher stumbled across him while he was powering in in a in a what do you call it, a haystack? I fucking hate the course of a night.

This is the part that blows me away the most of his stories that through all of this, he then stumbles across a what is essentially a multi-millionaire. And it's nuts that he was able to even just. Like he doesn't sound like he smooth talk this rancher. It simply seems like the rancher was like had respect for this guy. And that was the that was really the end of it. Um, it's it's kind of nuts. But that wouldn't last long because Boone grew bored after some time.

Grew bored. This is the part this is the part that kills me. And this is the part, another example, in my opinion, that points to Boone just being a serial killer because he was completely safe. This man had no intention of turning him over to the law. He enjoyed, like I said, he enjoyed spending nights with Boone. Everything about Boone's company he liked. And this was this was very, very strange to Boone. Again, he had some of the best food, best drink.

He could have anything he want. And this guy never asked him to work once. He literally just wanted Boone to hang out. And that's all all he wanted. But there was too much temptation. He could have all of this. I hate this guy. And too much temptation for what?

That's what I was saying. Boone, Boone saw all of this and decided he could have it. This could be all he did. You already had it. He was living in the life. Oh, my God. This is like hearing like I ran all these KFCs.

But you know what I needed? Murder. Like, bitch, you had everything you needed. So frustrating. Oh, my God. Dude, I can't wait. There's still some more to go. How?

So after the night after a night of drinking and playing cards after the rancher went to bed, Boone grabbed his bowie knife, snuck into the man's bedroom, straddled him and pressed the boot, the bowie knife against the man's neck and slid it from side to side. Why? Killing him. Dude.

Killing the man in his own bed with a pool of blood building underneath. God, yeah. Damn. He just murdered. He just murdered him for no. There was at least it's interesting. Again, another interesting to look at. It's interesting because Boone, at least as far as we know,

has kind of rationalized most of his murders. I had to eat or I had nothing else or I had no money or I needed a horse. Everything was rationalized in some way. This one seemed completely out of nowhere. And this seems like to me as somebody who's like really read a lot about serial killers is when a serial killer has a cool off period after they got in a kill, you know, they kind of put it away. The urge is done.

But eventually the urge rises back and it becomes an uncontrollable itch for these people. And it seems like no matter how good his life is, this man needed to kill. It was just something he enjoyed and something he liked to do. Right. And so and so he did. And he pocketed as much as he possibly could, took a horse and rode off into the wilds again and off he went.

And, you know, when you kill somebody that famous and that rich, it doesn't take long before the authorities end up figuring it out. And soon in another posse was sent out to look for Boone, a man whose reputation followed him, a man who's known, who's known escape from the prison had become more common knowledge and a man who had been supposedly seen wandering in this territory from rumors and they eventually caught him again. And then he was greased.

And so he slipped out of their hands and down into a pile of bacon and a shelter and off to prison. He got taken again, this time with the intent of hanging from the gallows at the end of his trial. But Boone had one last trick up his sleeve. His last card, he knew he could only play once and then it would be useless again. Remember, Boone had siblings, many of them. And over the years, he did attempt to keep contact

with those he found at least valuable. And one of the ones he kept regular contact with was his older brother, who had become rather successful, owned his own mining company and had quite a bit of money. His brother went by the name of all techs. Dude. Text, man, old text, baby. Oh, well, he texts.

It's like you tease the names and then they ended up being fucking exactly what they sound like, both of them. Well, Boone sent out a letter to his brother, old text, telling him that he needed to head to Florence to get him out of this jam before the trial started and that he'd been in a lot of trouble and he wanted to try and turn his life around. And like a doodleful brother, old text responded, arriving in Florence with his own small posse of people

a month before the trial was even scheduled to happen. An old text threw a ton of money, built one of the best legal teams that he could in the area and through a lot of a lot of arguing and courtroom shenanigans, he was actually able to get Boone out of prison. What the fuck? Yeah, he was I don't know. It's like it's nuts that he but you want to know why wanted it bad enough.

So we just gave it to him. He no, he did what he did what honestly, you know, any Holly Hollywood script would do. He came with a ton of money and he greased a ton of palms. He paid off officers, judges, old text just paid everybody off with all the money he had made from owning a very valuable piece of land early on in his life. And all the people paid off meant no witnesses showed up for Boone's trial.

Nobody was able to testify against him. And by the end of the trial, they had no choice but to let Boone go. Money literally scooted through Boone. And Boone had promised his brother that he would return to Idaho with him, work the mines, become an honest man. And with the money he would earn, he would buy himself his own piece of land and reintegrate himself back into old Texas family. He'd be able to be his brother again.

And when they were on the road, only a few days in, what do you think Boone did but leave? Oh, my God. This motherfucker, dude. He had no interest in being with anybody he wanted to be alone. He wanted to be wandering the woods, doing the only thing he cared about. Robbing and killing single player video games. Literally, this is all he wanted.

And this pissed off his brother, where his brother essentially said, forget it. Like he no longer from that point on, like refused to speak about Boone for a long time because Boone basically used him for everything he had just to escape. Only to go back to his bad habits once again. Come on. He went back to the roads, being abandoned, heading over the border into Montana, where he hoped to find new opportunities

and new horizons to rob new feet, people a new and build another wealth to his own name. He was yeah, Montana, the land of riches and promises. And there he was able to build a small reputation for himself. Eventually, however, Boone, his own reputation, got him notified. A group called the Innocence working within Montana, an organized crime group had gotten word Boone had made their way into town. Come on.

The leader of the Innocence, Boba Fett, nobody. Oh, no. Yeah, OK. No, no, the leader of the Innocence, who nobody actually really knew, except for the higher ups, wanted to have an interview with Boone. They sent a messenger sending a cryptic location and time to meet. And that's where he would they would be the head of the Innocence would meet with Boone, have an interview with him and essentially decide

if he would offer Boone the opportunity to join the Innocence or not. Innocence. In this part of Montana, I can start with rebels, right? In this part of Montana, it was well known the Innocence were really the word the law of the road that they always were able to skirt past the law. Or if they were in jail, they always ended up getting out way sooner than they should have. And getting to deal with it and basically poaching innocent ground, which is what Boone was doing, robbing people on their

like in their territory, the show got their attention. He had no idea because he's just Boone. And he's just like, I'm robbing, I'm killing. It is like he's applying without realizing he's applying for a position. And so Boone had a curiosity, figured out, why not? Let's see what this is all about. And when he arrived for the meeting, this is where Boone learned that the head of the Innocence

was actually the sheriff of the town. Are you kidding me? No, we do things a little differently around here. I'm on him. His name was Henry Plummer. OK, that's like the most normal name in the whole fucking story. Yeah, so far. Yeah.

Um, he he was the head of the Innocence, and essentially he gave Boone two options. He could join the Innocence and work for him, or he could walk a free man with the implication that he wasn't going to be allowed to walk a free man. Oh, because the sheriff was going to either take him in as a prisoner for being a murderer and make it look good for him or get him to work for him and make and the plan his initial plan was to make Boone like his enforcer to go out and like break knees and shit.

And when accepted. And for a while, he worked as his enforcer. He went out, broke legs, got extremely violent and basically took care of the more violent jobs that the Innocence needed to get done doing. But eventually, as Boone always did, he crossed the line and killed somebody he wasn't supposed to. And this would be the actual final time Boone Helm was arrested.

He was not getting out of this one, especially with the head of the Innocence being in charge of the law of the area. Except soon he did. And maybe to your your pleasure, he didn't. He did not actually fucking. Finally, Jesus Christ spent. He spent six months in prison waiting for his trial, which eventually did happen.

And his sentence was to be sent to the gallows. On the day of his execution, it wasn't being done by any professionals where the town was that he was being held didn't have proper gallows. So they made a makeshift gallows for the three of them, put them on boxes and one at a time were kicking the box out from each one of my God. The first one wasn't Boone. And as they kicked the box out, the neck didn't snap. And for 15 to 20 minutes, according to records,

he struggled and strangled, dying a slow, agonizing suffocation death. Fucking Christ. The next one, however, was supposed to be Boone. Now, I the first one, by the way, I just want to throw this out there. It's a character I mostly skipped over, because it's not important. But the first man who got killed, his name was three finger Jack. Just because it had to be.

He's not extra from a fucking pirate movie. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Boone, however, was having none of that. He had no interest in having a slow, agonizing death. And so when it so when it came time to kick the box under, Boone simply shouted, kick away, old fellow, it's my turn next. I'll be in hell with you in a minute. And then followed up with every man for his principles.

Hurrah for Jeff Davis. Davis, let her be. Oh, I swear to God, I thought that's what you just said. I was like, I know Jeff Bezos. He was the first time traveler and he is me. Hurrah for Jeff Davis, let her rip. And he jumped off of his box. His neck immediately snapped, Jesus.

But in a final act that can only be that can only be written. I said by Hollywood, as his body swung back, he knocked the third prisoner off of their box and not hard enough where his neck snapped and the third prisoner got sent off his box for 20 minutes, was forced to strangle and struggle the decks because Boone's body. Even in death, he fell upwards. Real.

And that guy's name was Ken Tucky. So in the end, why is it called the Kentucky cannibal? Because that's where he was born. That sucks. That sucks. But boys, that is the end of the tale. Oh, my God, I love Kentucky cannibal. Wow, that was an adventure that I didn't know that I needed.

But holy shit, I'm so glad we went on that adventure. I can't believe you were like not going to do a whole other episode. What I was. Yeah, I was mostly going to skip through his malicious stuff, the dirty Harris stuff, because but, you know, I, you know, I'm glad you wanted more. I'm fucking believable. All that I love his man.

Something about his death is like the first perfect note for just a man who failed and like you said, the God and in success is a whole life. And at the very end, even in his own death, he just took somebody out in the worst possible way. I believe that he pulled that. Like this guy sucks. This guy sucks so bad yet. Everything about him is like comically amazing.

Like it shouldn't. The things that happened to him shouldn't happen to people. And yet here we are like, yep, this guy was a terrible person. But here's another wacky adventure he went on. And you're just like, oh, my God. And I got to a point in the research where I was just like, he dug out of prison. Are you kidding me?

Like he's in the exact same way that Clint Eastwood did in fucking escape from Alcatraz, the exact same way. Oh, man. But again, it's so interesting because he's such a fascinating character, but he's a nobody in history. Like he doesn't make a splash because. He didn't like the way America saw like itself, like Billy, the kid did or wasn't romanticized in any way.

Right. He was just a monster who couldn't be caught. Well, there's nothing boogie man. There's nothing romantic about chance. If that makes any sense. Like people love to have the idea that like something somewhere cause causes like good things to happen to good people and bad things happen to bad people and that kind of thing. And in his story, he's a bad person that incredibly good things happen to

repeatedly. And it's such. And but he doesn't like he's every time he has an opportunity to better himself, he squanders it. And I think that is another reason why people are like F that guy. And he's like not talked about because it's it's there's no moral to be gained from his life. He just kind of sucks. Again, the fact that he got taken in by this richer answer

who is willing to give him let him live in the lap of luxury was like fuck it. And he's like, that was fun. Slit his throat. Take what I can back into the wilds I go where I belong. And it's every the image of like every time Boonhelm went into the woods with anybody and then he was only ever found by himself every time. Just like scrawny and dying. How many like he went into the woods four or five times and was found scrawny and dying almost every single time.

It's nuts, but I'm so glad we did that story. It did not think we would get like a four parter out of it. That was super fun. Thank you guys so much for for listening. I hope you guys enjoyed next week. We'll do something lighter and then the next big topic I'm going into kind of just to give a teaser is stay in the realm of true crime, but not do a serial killer.

Well, I'm going to revisit something we did in the in our the the the 20s. Episode twenty six, I think it was. No, no, episode twenty six, four years ago. I think I really am ready to properly revisit Missing 411 in a way that I just I didn't have the resources to tackle. Yeah, my mom was just talking to me about this episode like today. Yeah, I was redo episode. I want to re talk about missing 411.

I want to do a much deeper dive on it. So that's going to be something I'm going to be working on for a while. But next week, we'll do something way more light, way more fun. Maybe Alex will do something. I don't know if he's got to be able to maybe bring something. I've definitely got some stuff on the on the burner. We'll see. We'll see what happens. I'm how life is crazy, you guys.

Yeah, no shit, man. I'm with you. But we're off to go do a mini-sode on patreon.com slash shilluminati pod where you can get all kinds of fun exclusives and maybe just maybe you'll get an exclusive sale for the Mothman plush before anybody else gets them. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. OK, goodbye, everybody. Bye.

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