Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 164 - Missing 411 Part 1: The Soft Reboot

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Starting point is 00:00:25 Yup, juice! Toyota, let's go places! Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Chiluminati Podcast, episode 164, as always So, again, what about pizza makes me have crazy dreams? Maybe it's all in your self-conscious, maybe you associate pizza with crazy dreams, so you go to bed and your brain gives you those crazy dreams. I can go out there and I can get an article that tells you that most of those alien sightings are F-A-K-E fake.

Starting point is 00:02:16 I mean, it's true, though. You know what I'm saying? I don't want to end up on the conspiracy side of pizza dreams, but I think I'm there. And I'm going to let you know, I have evidence now that cold pizza does not equal pizza dreams. But- It's none of the hot pizza bubbles your guts. If it's like late and I haven't eaten all day and I'm like, oh man, I'm hungry and I

Starting point is 00:02:38 order pizza and that shows up and it's a nice hot pizza and then I go to bed. I get it. Within like two or three hours of that, dreams, not just dreams, crazy dreams. Those little yellow cheese fumes creeping, curling into your nose. Is it the cheese? Maybe it's like the cheese sauce meat con. You know I'm going to get pepperoni. It's a fact.

Starting point is 00:02:57 Could it be the crust? Do you get the same place almost every time? No, no. All right. If I eat pizza late, it's whatever's open and I'm never actually ever concerned about where I'm getting it from because I'm like, I just want something that isn't a burger. On Beard Bros the other day, we were literally like, why does pizza even have crust? What?

Starting point is 00:03:15 Because I thought you'd be eating tomato soup and cheese. No, no, no. I mean, okay, first of all, first of all, if we're going to be real, I have to go back. You mean like outer edge crust? There should be two words for the things that are crust on pizza. One is the handle and one is the plate, right? I'm not talking about the plate. I get it.

Starting point is 00:03:35 You're talking about the handle? Yeah. So you're talking about like the Midwest style of pizza, where it is. Yeah, like a Detroit or a Chicago style or even like a Sicilian. There's like a, this very specific style that is like, if you look up Donatos, or yeah, exactly. That's exactly what I'm talking about. Cassano's or Marion's pizza, like all the Midwestern Italian named places where it's

Starting point is 00:04:00 flat and there is no edge and it's cut into squares that's, yeah, it's like a Sicilian. Oh, no. Okay. That's different. This is a, this is a whole other thing. This is a bar pie. This is a, this is a totally other situation. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:04:12 That's what I'm referring to. Like it doesn't have it. It's like, yeah. Right on. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:04:20 This, this toppings up to the edge. Yes. Like we have a, we have a, we have a spatula, you know, it doesn't, you don't need the handle. And honestly, it's just, it's, it's just big pizza. What's fun about those is that the outsides, there's a little bit of crust and that's fine, but the insides are like toppings and it's a perfect square and it's like, I don't know how to hold this. My hands is greasy and nasty.

Starting point is 00:04:39 Eff it. Delicious. Delicious. You can crack it in half like a little cracker, probably do, you know what I mean? But then it kind of drips in the middle. And most of those things have like cracker thin crusts anyway. The crusts are always super thin on those. I'm a handle man.

Starting point is 00:04:53 I like a handle on a pizza. I'm sorry. I'm just going to go out there. Give me that handle. Keep my hands clean. I'm not going to, I'm not trying to hate. It's got to, it's got to be a good, if you're going to have a handle on a pizza, it can't be like,

Starting point is 00:05:04 Pizza Hut. Right. It can't be like garbage crust. I agree there. I need that crust to be delicious. I need to be like an old man, tossing five minutes before like a proofed bread. Yeah. But so you live in LA where like those kinds of options are all over the place all the

Starting point is 00:05:20 time anywhere you go. You say that, but I stand on the firm belief that while it is difficult to get many types of foods around this country, you can always find a homemade scratch ass pizza from some dude named like Sal or Vinny or like Scarabucci. I don't even know some guy, the three, the three pizzella. Yeah. Yeah. I promise you, you can find something in your town.

Starting point is 00:05:49 There's always some, it's not Pizza Hut or Domino's or Papa John's. There's some guy named like Fat Tony who is straight up making a pie and it looks like the rundown dump and you drive by it all the time and you're like, I don't want to go there. Tell me that's the place to go. That guy is like. And speaking of taking a chance on something that you've driven by a million times, head on down to patreon.com slash Luminati Pod where you can get a big slice of our pizza pie by helping us keep our doors afloat and keeping our lights open.

Starting point is 00:06:23 And you know, there's a lot of great stuff. We just launched a second show called Rotten Popcorn where we talk over movies that you maybe probably haven't seen before. I hope so. And you're willing to broaden, you know, some well curated films to broaden your cinematic rock bottom. If you want to like deepen your rock bottom, you want to widen your foundation. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:44 That's a great like spin on what I said. Head on over to patreon.com slash Luminati Pod where you can watch a 90 minute movie, or at least us talking about a 90 minute movie that somebody made for $500 or something about Sasquatch. Suburban Sasquatch is a masterpiece of a man's individual vision. If you're one of those people who doesn't call in friends and dark souls, this is the movie watching experience for you. Let me tell you, if you let him solo her, this one, this buds for you, pal.

Starting point is 00:07:16 I liked it. Very good. Yeah. That's very nice. patreon.com slash Luminati Pod, the website. I'm really excited to see where that phrasing ends up in like another year or so. Okay. That said.

Starting point is 00:07:31 What? Oh, hey, no. One last thing I want to put out there. Two things, actually. More shilling. Hey, guys, if you want more plushies, go to the yeti.com slash Luminati and go sign up for like their little plushy newsletter. We sold out of our first two runs.

Starting point is 00:07:44 And if you want, if they're going to make more runs, they need to know that there is a demand for more of the plushies. While we're on this also, while that Mothman plushie is fantastic, one of the best plushies I've ever seen. Period. True. Give us your thoughts on what you want next. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:59 What would you want to add to the Mothman collection? What is the coolest thing you could think of? Yeah. Is it like a cute chupacabra? Is it like some sort of Jersey devil? But is he in like a meatball sub? He's like, I got a sub. Let's license the old game.

Starting point is 00:08:18 Let's get a plushie of the old game. Let's license it from the publisher. Yeah. Do you want a plushie bean boy? Yeah. I would do it. Oh, man, yeah. We got to do a plushie bean boy.

Starting point is 00:08:27 Should we do locally sourced, delicious East Coast beans? Should we have a bean boy and he has a zipper and in the back you can store your nugs. Just put it out there. Oh, I love that idea. Just put it out there. I love that idea. He has like a little like a union suit, buttons on his butt and he's like, pull it down. He's sticking it in his butt.

Starting point is 00:08:49 Yeah. Yeah. I think that's where you would have to put it. Yeah. That's the only place it belongs. Every year the podcast is over and we've got like a baked bean company instead. That's where this is leading us all eventually. They're going to catch me at the border and I'm going to have a shootout with police because

Starting point is 00:09:04 they found my stash in my little bean boy union suit, butt flap. But seriously, guys, we'd love to put an item in the store that when we go and we check the warehouse and see where 410 of them have gone, that they seem to be missing. And speaking of missing 410, it is time for missing 411. It's almost time for missing. We also have live show merch that we're selling now, everybody. Please go buy our live show merch. When we did our live show in Austin, a little bit of the merch wasn't able to make it in

Starting point is 00:09:38 transit in time. So we've been working on getting a store up for it and there is now a store up for it that you can go buy the beanie that we were going to sell as well as the t-shirt that we're going to sell. That's at chilluminati.limitedrun.com. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. I'm just I'm this is I'm just getting this coming over the wire.

Starting point is 00:09:55 There are 410 pieces of merch in the warehouse as people are buying and they're going missing speaking. Thank you, Alex. Thank you very much. Time out. I need to know. Why do you keep saying 410 and not 411? Because it's the next one.

Starting point is 00:10:10 I'm setting them up to Al-Yupit, but it feels like a weird Al-Yupit like, there's 410 and now you had 410. Why did you say there's 411? Speaking of 411, we're on 411. Why not do that? You're giving it to the people. It's time for the new. It's time for missing 411.

Starting point is 00:10:30 It's time for the new. Before it was 410, it's 2,008, 2,008, 3,008, you know what I'm saying? Not at all. I don't actually. You've lost me completely. You guys remember that song? Yeah. I was young.

Starting point is 00:10:47 Right? Place. Yeah, I'm aware. Yeah, exactly. That song that's like, Laheim. Yeah. Do you remember when Will I Am was an X-Men? Dude.

Starting point is 00:10:56 He really was. He was. What X-Men was he? I can't even remember. He was like one of the Nightcrawler guys. Yeah, a teleport guy. He teleported on to Sabertooth's hands and died. I forgot how that went down.

Starting point is 00:11:11 Anyway, yes, Alex. Sabertooth, guess where he was going to be? He was like, and there, dead. Yeah. He was alive for 410 minutes and then he went missing. And speaking. Speaking. Hey, guys, way back in the day, within our first year of doing this, back in 2018, in

Starting point is 00:11:30 the mid-20 episodes, we did a topic called Missing 411. We did two pieces, two episodes on it, and really they were just kind of stories overall, some of the missing 411 stories that have happened over the years, and at the end of that series, I said one day, I will return to this topic because there is so much to talk about. Well, fast forward almost five years, and here we are with Missing 411, kind of a soft reboot. We'll call it like a DC soft reboot that when this is over after the next two episodes,

Starting point is 00:12:00 the next one is another soft reboot. All the multiverses collided, and now we're like setting out again. I guess so. But, you know, in the DC way where you just cancel the movies. Is this our phase four? Is this? This is our phase four, exactly. This is our phase.

Starting point is 00:12:14 Wow, this is our phase four. Yeah. We have our statue that we'll never explain called the Green Stone. Listen, I believe that eventually I'm going to make an episode that explains what I was talking about. Eventually, I'm going to make an episode. Just like Marvel. Eventually, you'll get there.

Starting point is 00:12:29 Yeah. I believe that I will. I have hope. I have hope that I will. God. Imagine the next episode features you. Venture hand in hand through scenic red rock landscapes and discover breathtaking exploration. In Kanabuta, fall in love with small town charm and let adventure reignite your romance.

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Starting point is 00:13:26 Smith's, fresh for everyone. Well, before we move forward, last time, like I said, it was just kind of a bunch of stories. This time I'm going to take a different approach. It's going to be two, at least episodes, maybe three. In this first episode, we're going to talk about kind of a little bit of a rehash of what Missing 411 is, as well as talk about some of the stories that we didn't talk about the first time around. So for that, Jesse, just for this episode alone, I need you to open your mind, remove

Starting point is 00:14:04 the skeptic pants and throw on that believer thong. Right. So take my pants off. We're just going to open our mind as to what this could be. Right. No, I'm ahead of them. I'm ahead of you. And then next episode, we're going to talk a little bit more of who this particular

Starting point is 00:14:17 person is. So it's really created this Missing 411 phenomenon and David Paulides. We'll talk a little bit about them today and we'll talk about what the actual scientific theories could be and some of the new information that has come forward since we did our first couple of episodes in 2018. There have been two movies and he has written a ton more books on this subject. So with that, let me just quickly clarify our sources moving forward. Pretty much all of our sources on this topic come from David Paulides, the guy who kind

Starting point is 00:14:49 of created Missing 411. In that, all of his books have been used in various ways from they're all titled Missing 411. So I'm just going to skip Missing 411 of the title because there are 10 books he's written. Eastern United States, Western United States in Canada, North America and beyond the devils in the details. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

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Starting point is 00:40:21 GRAM 1500 bathroom. about Sea sauna in silms. Anthony So we're surrounded by nature. I mean, it is. It is. Yeah, that makes that makes sense.

Starting point is 00:40:52 It is. If I it is one of these more southern parts of Alaska, but it is still if you scroll out all mountains and greenery. And yeah, wow. But very much not the like, I don't know, like scenery that I was imagining very much more like long lines of sight, wide open mountain sides, you know what I mean? OK, so not, you know, it's not right on the water. Yeah, it's on a lake and it's like above and it looks like there.

Starting point is 00:41:23 I mean, here's the thing. If we're talking about cave systems, I could totally see there being a cave here, you know what I mean? Yeah, sure. Although it's like what to what Jesse was saying about like, you're just gone. Like, it doesn't really look like it would be that easy to disappear right here. I look completely agree or disagree. Sorry. This like if you look at this, there is there's the city,

Starting point is 00:41:47 which is on the Cape of or whatever it is, the Gulf of Alaska and the Northern Pacific. And then straight up there are, you know, Bear Lakes and all sorts of different things. But then just miles and miles and miles and miles of just rugged terrain. Yes, it's beautiful. And yes, you can see. But I know if you let me there, I would die.

Starting point is 00:42:09 I'm just know that I would be dead. If I got lost out there gone, but I'd find you, you know, you'd be dead, but I'd find you. I don't know. I mean, like, I don't know. I mean, I don't know. You know, I have never been there. I'm looking at like six pictures, but yeah, it's it's pretty vex. I see how it could be vexing that somebody would just disappear here.

Starting point is 00:42:29 Yeah, again, I'm with you. I can see how it could be vexing compared to like, you know, other cases that we talked about where it's just thick woods fucking everywhere. But let's move forward. Still, even in on top of all those things that they did to search, they even put dog teams out there from the Alaska search and rescue dogs to cover the mountain attempting to find Paul sent. But nothing of value ended up being found by the canine canine search teams.

Starting point is 00:42:54 So to kind of over it, Paul Paul Limitier disappeared in an area where there had been hundreds of runners, an area that had a very well marked trail and an overlook near the summit where there can be no mistake in which direction Seward and the finish line is located. The summit area has very little foliage, lots of rock and dirt and boulders, an extremely comprehensive four and a half day search for Paul failed to find him or any evidence that he was on the mountain. Yet we know for a fact that he was 200 feet from the summit

Starting point is 00:43:21 at around 545 to 6 p.m. on July 4th. Like my dude summited, you know what I mean? Like he summited. Yeah, he summited. He was at the top. Paul actually saw the direction that the race officials were walking down the mountain. He knew the correct path to take. He was less than two miles from his family and from safety. How do we know that? How do we know?

Starting point is 00:43:40 Because he was at the summit of the top. And it would be like, how do we know what he knew or thought at that point? Well, he was just seen and he was there and they had an interaction. So he saw them go the other way. How do we like, you know, I mean, there's no way to know that he knew that that was the direction to go. I guess he would know that is what you're saying. Right. I'm just saying soon. He knew it before running the marathon.

Starting point is 00:44:02 And if he was, if he summited and he saw them going down, I imagine they would have. I absolutely would imagine that a person in the right state of mind, 100% could figure that out. But if you're hurt in any way, like this guy potentially was, just imagine like you're in a car and you have to go to the bathroom really bad. You don't give a shit about anything around you about you're just looking for a bathroom. And if you're hurt, if you have you ever gone for a long walk or something,

Starting point is 00:44:31 you have like, I don't know, like a blister or something. You no longer are focused on anything but like, just go, God, I can't even go get my coffee and not feel bad when I have a blister. That's what I'm saying. So like, I don't I don't know. I don't know what could. Yeah, I it's it's hard. I agree. It's the the circumstances again.

Starting point is 00:44:54 And this tends to be the case with a lot of these missing four one ones is that there's always something that you can kind of point to and be like, well, if that didn't happen, we would likely wouldn't be here. And that would be leaving the man behind who is in his late sixties, no matter how good a shape he's in on a mountain trail alone when your job is to be a spotter and a timer. Should you not be? That's an old dude. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:45:17 Yeah, it's a whole exact. That's a whole ass, dude. And granted, they did the best search that they could. Everybody was involved. On top of the line, fleer technology was being used. They were trying to find this man and they couldn't. But also important to keep in mind is that as the searchers were going forward, they were met with really bad weather, fog, rain, the snow.

Starting point is 00:45:38 Canines had a hard time getting a scent on the trail. And it was then confirmed that Paul had poor eyesight. He was the last runner on the trail when he vanished. And while utilizing the fleer, they couldn't find Paul, even though he stood at a six, two and 250 pound frame. Paul wasn't a small man. But it was also snowing then. It snowed after it get dusted.

Starting point is 00:45:58 It dusted afterward. It did like a snow dusting. So a heat thing would have had trouble finding stuff in snow. Would he not correct me if I'm wrong? Would he not stick out like a sore thumb on Fleer as a warm body amongst many cold? I mean, if he's dead, that's a cold ass body. True. If he is dead, then yeah, he's done. Like if he died from exposure.

Starting point is 00:46:17 I mean, what are we saying? Like somebody, how fat, how soon after was that Fleer? Two days. I mean, he could be well dead then. And he could be. And then it wouldn't pick up anything. Yeah. So are we saying in the 200 feet from the summit that he like fell in a hole? I mean, he could have fallen on his way down the mountain, possibly.

Starting point is 00:46:36 He could have fallen anywhere. He could have hurt himself. I mean, there's so many things that could happen. Remember, they gave him 90 minutes to get back. So I assume they expected it was still going to be a heck of a go still. It takes seconds for trouble to happen. So if he has trouble seeing and he's potentially hurting some way, he's having struggles and he has to get back down. Sometimes going down the mountain is a little bit harder than going up

Starting point is 00:47:01 because you have to like balance yourself a little because, you know, it's steep. And so, you know, he's not a young guy where you can just run down. I don't know. I mean, I don't know. But that's that's right. That's it. That's that's what I want. You know, I don't know. Like there's enough there to say they definitely were in the wrong and they definitely contributed to his disappearance. But the circumstances, the landscape around it,

Starting point is 00:47:23 them, you know, breaking out everything and they couldn't find him. And this man was like, you know, not a stranger to marathon running. It's weird. It's very, very weird. But anything can happen in the wilderness, too. Like he literally could have fallen into a fucking hole. He could have hurt or twisted his ankle and then a fucking tiger like a mountain lion took him out or something after, you know, at night or something. Who knows? But no one heard him screaming for help.

Starting point is 00:47:49 But he wasn't that far away from town. He was. I mean, he was about two miles out. You can see town from the summit and it's close. Yeah. Yeah. So that's our first story. Just to leave it out there a little bit, I can see it both ways. I can see it both ways. Next up, we're going to talk about a woman who went missing in 1966, a woman by the name of Amy Jackson, who disappeared

Starting point is 00:48:13 in Deer Creek Campgrounds in Sequoia National Park. She was 18 months old at the time of her disappearance. She was barely over a year old. So Amy Jackson and her parents traveled from their residence in Upland, California to the Deer Creek Campgrounds in Sequoia National Park for a weekend of camping. The family arrived on Saturday, August 13th and quickly established camp after the family had eaten and relaxed.

Starting point is 00:48:38 They entered their tent and went to sleep. Sometime during the night, little Amy left her parents tent without being heard and somehow walked out into the darkness. Her parents didn't hear her leave the tent and they had no explanation how she could have done this. The National Park Police were called and they quickly sent out blood hounds and aerial support to look for Amy. We're pretty sure the searchers were probably thinking

Starting point is 00:48:58 like what the researchers were told on this case, how far can 18 month old really walk out into the mountains? But I want to put out there an 18 month old child to any wildlife. Probably looks like a delicious snack. Yeah. At the end of the first day of searching, commanders were so disturbed by not finding any evidence of where the girl was located and the blood hounds inability to pick up a scent that the National Park Service didn't call their own special agents and they called the FBI for assistance instead.

Starting point is 00:49:27 The FBI summoned additional helicopters, ground searchers, equestrians and volunteers all looking for this young girl. The search and rescue was occurring approximately 25 miles east of Porterville at the 7000 foot elevation. The Tulare County Sheriff had also asked the FBI for assistance as they couldn't find a trace of the girl in the story. The parents continue to tell seemed implausible at the time. Three years later, almost the same scenario would play out again again in the same park.

Starting point is 00:49:55 Paul Pauli notes. Imagine almost 400 searchers scouring the campsite and surrounding area and not finding a single trace of an 18 month old girl. I again, I in my note here is if she got if she left in the middle of the night, that's when fucking predators are out. You know what I mean? Anything could quickly scooper by the neck.

Starting point is 00:50:16 And, you know, it's awful thought to think and I'm not saying that, you know, I hope this is what happened. But if anything, grab this girl by the neck, she's not going to make a noise and she's going to be carried off to wherever the hell the animal is going to take it. Yeah. It's a little it's a little creature, you know, unfortunately. Law enforcement, regardless, remained perplex. On the fourth day of the search, a Kern County special rescue team made a disturbing discovery,

Starting point is 00:50:40 as is explained in the August 18th and 1966 article in the Arizona Republic, quote, a crack Kern County special rescue team found the 18 month old girl's body at the base of a large rock uphill from the Deer Creek campground. The same article also states, quote, the body of little Amy Jackson was found yesterday about eight tenths of a mile from where she disappeared four days earlier at a campground in the rugged Sierra's north of here. Now, you probably understand why the Kern County sheriff had called the FBI. A little 18 month old girl disappears at night from a tent.

Starting point is 00:51:13 Searches and bloodhounds find nothing in the family states. They never heard her leave. That's immediately very, very, very suspicious. The search is probably covering everything downhill because that's where 90 percent of all children go when they are missing. I don't believe he's tumbled down. It's like water. You know, they're exactly. One misstep and she's going to go downhill.

Starting point is 00:51:32 I don't pull Paul leads, doesn't believe that anyone truly believed a young girl as young as Amy could walk uphill that far in a rugged region in the middle of the night at that elevation with chilly temperatures. Now, where do you boys stand on that idea that an 18 month old wandered uphill? And it seems like how capable is this kid? That's a good question. Eighteen months old. Like you're not super capable, but you can walk.

Starting point is 00:51:57 You know, maybe walk, maybe. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if a kid could not even a mile at I think that I mean, you have to imagine young kids can do all sorts of insane things. And so I know you see footage of kids like parkouring out of their crib and stuff. So I mean, yeah, true, true, very true. I can see how it is possible.

Starting point is 00:52:26 Do I think it is likely? No, I'm with you. But again, all this. The conceit of all this is we are saying here's a bunch of missing people. They disappeared in really crazy, weird ways. And then the logical leap then is like. They were taken. Something terrible has happened.

Starting point is 00:52:49 This is there's a lot of conspiracy foot. And it's like maybe or just some really awful luck. Maybe I don't know. And I feel like that's where this is all leading. It's like these crazy people disappeared. And that's because the government kidnapped them for experiments with big forts and aliens. Like, OK, OK, all right.

Starting point is 00:53:11 There's a we'll talk more about that next episode for sure. But there is there are multiple beliefs that it might be some sort of unknown creature could be government abducting its own civilians. It could be weird steps into dimensional rips that that teleport you across the mountain. I know. Well, bonkers leap. All right, I know that's what we're supposed to be today, but it's like mind open. All right.

Starting point is 00:53:34 You're right. You're right. Like Dr. Strange opened the third eye. Right. Take the makeup remover onto your forehead and remove the little skin cover that you use for your third eye. Thank you. Thank you. Let it open right up. I can say very much that he's doing. Yeah, it's working right now.

Starting point is 00:53:51 It's freaking me out. I like it. I didn't realize your third eye was purple. It's a contact lens. Don't worry about it. OK, I'm jealous. I'm very jealous. And I would like to talk to your optometrist, mystical optometrist, because I'm looking for one sunglass, one sunglass. Yes. And I am.

Starting point is 00:54:16 I got to stop doing that. We've got to move forward. So one of the implications that the FBI put forward is that she may have even actually climbed a little higher and fell off of the boulder that she was found at the base of implying and then moving further that she died from exposure after perhaps knocking herself out or becoming severely injured. And many of the articles that Pauline says he reviewed stated that the sheriff believed that the girl may have even been kidnapped,

Starting point is 00:54:41 which is why they called the FBI in the first place. And maybe she was several other articles stated that a three mile radius around the camp had been searched prior to finding the finding of the body. And nothing suspicious was found, a typical result on many of these cases that are considered missing four and one adjacent. It would be useless to file a Freedom of Information Act request with the FBI regarding this case, Pauline's claims, since they never release any information on an open case, and this at least the time of this writing remained open.

Starting point is 00:55:13 In his past missing four and one books, Pauline's claims that he repeatedly stated that the FBI had a very large filing cabinet with cases that feature unusual circumstances and unusual findings, as in this case. I watched that show. And honestly, I yeah, not only is it the ex files, but also I would believe that. I mean, we've learned how many times that they've denied UFO government agencies. And then that came forward. If they had just a file of like weird disappearances.

Starting point is 00:55:40 Yeah, I would totally 100% buy that that does that would not surprise me at all. Literally, like are we talking literally, literally, I would not be surprised if they literally had a physical room with like just like a maybe not a file room, but just like on like cases that they just don't have an explanation for miscellaneous or what literally the ex files. No, God damn it. No, I just think it's what you're describing. That's the premise of the show. I guess, I guess I got to be.

Starting point is 00:56:08 I got to come forward. I've never seen the ex files. What in the I guess this is where I've been cornered. Are you kidding me? I have to come forward with the truth. I've never seen you know, which one of us is the Mulder and which one of us is the Scully of LA? I Scully is the girl, right?

Starting point is 00:56:23 And she's the most skeptical. Yes. All right, I got it. Yes. Ah, my chair just broke. I almost fell backwards onto the ground. Did you do that with your mind powers? So sorry. So sorry. It's I got to watch it.

Starting point is 00:56:38 I saw something I've always been meaning to do with everyone listening right now. I haven't seen this whole part out, Dean. And you should edit this part out. I've seen it in Dean. I've seen an episode. And well, I think I've seen an episode because I had it from people. Dean, don't do it. He thinks he has a memory.

Starting point is 00:56:56 Good. No. I have a memory of a man sitting in the back of the car surrounded by like cigarette smoke. Cigarette smoking. Man, I don't know anything about like a weird. Were you playing Mass Effect? Were you playing Mass Effect? No, but I have played Mass Effect.

Starting point is 00:57:10 OK, all right. All right. It's confirmed. Rotten popcorn ex files. It's happening. OK, back to the topic. That's about all we know of the disappearance of this young girl. The local police and local law enforcement to this day still believe that it was an act of kidnapping

Starting point is 00:57:25 and potentially something nefarious happening. But with lack of evidence and no reason to suspect anything else, it's basically gone down as a potential death from exposure after she wandered off into the wilderness in the middle of the night. But we will not. They think kidnapping. I would just imagine nature. Yeah, I think I'm with you on that.

Starting point is 00:57:44 It's hard. This is another weird one. Because, again, wandering uphill is also kind of fucking weird. And for for a barely one year old, you know, a little over one years old, you got to remember, she's not that old. But still, you know, man, it's weird. So I will concede in both of these situations that it's. A bit like there's some element of it that makes me go, huh, right? Like, I will say that.

Starting point is 00:58:11 But I believe that the thing that's really going to take my third eye from, like, open to, like, maybe I got four eyes somehow. I don't know how the eye thing works, but the thing that will take me to the next level is if the metadata. Is very convincing. That's the thing that I'm starting to, like, realize is like this alone is like a slightly mysterious disappearance, something with the running guy, like, slightly mysterious disappearance, like that is somewhat run of the mill,

Starting point is 00:58:40 right, but is also a little bit like looking at the pictures. Right. I'm a little surprised, right? And like that makes me go, Oh, wow, it's really you can really see far from the summit. I want to put forward that while taking at, you know, taking these stories on their face value, I agree. Almost, you know, majority of the ones I read anyway, all I feel like can be pointed at something relatively natural happening. What David Paul leads and a lot of the people who, you know,

Starting point is 00:59:04 follow this thing for one, one positive is what you're ignoring is there's a pattern. And now we'll talk about the pattern more next episode, because there's multiple patterns I'd like to talk about from the missing, you know, from the caves across America to the government bases and whatnot. But there are other patterns that they talk about are things that we've actually discussed in the past in terms of numerology. They say the person with the first letter S went missing on the same month at the same time in the same park as this person with the first name of letter S.

Starting point is 00:59:33 And it matches. And if you just go through, but that's hard to kind of again, that's hard to really pause it in my opinion, pause it forward as an actual like pattern when you have so many missing people going every single year that, of course, if you go looking for a pattern, your brain, the human brain is consistently looking for patterns all the time. So that's not enough for me to believe, but it is something we will talk about in the next episode.

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Starting point is 01:01:36 we'll just do one more story before we move on and end this episode with a new fresh reminder as to how the missing 401 cases go. This is the disappearance of a young boy by the name of Lawrence Sullivan, who went missing on October 16th at 11 a.m. in Round Mountain, Nevada at again, he was three years old. The location of this disappearance is Mount Jefferson in the Toyabe National Forest, just seven miles northeast of Round Mountain, Nevada, a lot of missing little kids, a lot of little kids that go missing.

Starting point is 01:02:10 Round Mountain is located 150 miles southeast of Reno, has a population of just less than 2000 and is in the middle of the Nevada desert. Mount Jefferson is located on a small mountain range that rises to an elevation of 11,900 feet with areas of heavy foliage and large trees. On October 16th, 1930, Lawrence Sullivan was riding with his uncle John Sullivan on a small trip for his uncle to examine a potential prospecting site in Jefferson Canyon. They were driving from Lawrence's residence in Manhattan, just south of Round Mountain. John was a gold miner and inspecting an area up the canyon near the 7,000

Starting point is 01:02:46 six foot a 600 foot elevation point where the road stopped. John parked the car and told Lawrence to stay inside as he hiked the small hill and examined the site. Again, we can kind of point to this is maybe the mistake that he made by leaving a three year old inside a car at the big one. That's a pretty big mistake. John reported that he walked to the top of the hill, looked back and waved at Lawrence and then went to the other side.

Starting point is 01:03:08 John returned to the car after a short inspection of the site and found Lawrence wasn't inside. A search was made of the surrounding area. There wasn't a lot of large timber in the immediate area, but he didn't see the boy. John left the area to obtain more assistance. Now, you should take note of something important. Lawrence knew exactly where his uncle was at. He looked at him and waved by confirmed by his uncle.

Starting point is 01:03:30 The boy knew what direction to walk him if his intent was to leave and find him. The area where Lawrence vanished is very rugged in parts and he vanished in a valley surrounded by steep mountains. So again, I point one point this out and kind of highlight this. That is he just decided not to wander in the right direction. All it would have taken was a tumble. Searches from Taunup, Manhattan and Round Mountain, along with sheriffs, deputies and soldiers all assisted in the effort to find Lawrence.

Starting point is 01:03:56 Searches initially were looking up the valley in downhill and they found nothing. One searcher went slightly up a northern valley and found Lawrence's cap and unusual find as it was uphill from the vehicle. Volunteers and deputies continued to comb the valleys where they had found the cap and still found nothing. It was during this entire event that John, searchers and family were consistently yelling Lawrence's name and calling for him and not receiving a response. There was wild speculation in the community and newspaper at the time.

Starting point is 01:04:23 It was actually printed that some felt an eagle may have taken Lawrence as they found his cap in a canyon as they found is the cap in a canyon a mile away from the car, but they hadn't found tracks. So yeah, they they just assumed, I guess, an eagle swooped down for a free meal and took three year old away. So a lot of stuff happening concurrently with each other. You know what I mean? But I must stress this, this is our last one. The likelihood of an eagle is as likely as any other insane thing

Starting point is 01:04:55 that you can think up. And I think that's what makes these so believable and easy to get into the mystery behind it. Three year old is a big boy. I agree. That's a big boy for an eagle. But that's what I'm saying. Like if you can buy into an eagle, then you can easily buy into the idea that more something more nefarious or like because you just said, fair eagle. Yeah, fair. That's boys too big for an eagle.

Starting point is 01:05:20 It must be something else. And then that's how you can get off on to all sorts of crazy things. Yeah, again, the cap was found in an alley like a mile away from where they were found. And past the cap, they did actually find small footprints. Bloodhounds had supposedly tracked the boy up a canyon and then suddenly lost all tracks. Searchers were upset and nervous about not finding Lawrence and summoning the assistance of a local Native American tracker.

Starting point is 01:05:47 On October 20th, 1930, an article in the Reno Evening Gazette had the following description of the search, quote, Oscar Mike, Indian tracker, picked up the trail where others said it had been lost. And it was believed that a mountain lion might have seized the wonder and followed it up a precipitous cliff forming the walls of the canyon, towering 500 feet high. The trail led up the face of this almost impassable wall to a beach or a shelf scarcely wide enough for an eagle's nest.

Starting point is 01:06:14 You should have. Well, now we should keep the perspective that this was a highly dangerous place for searchers, dangerous to the extent that they were using climbing ropes for their safety and the tracker stated that the boy had traveled through this area. It was at this point that the first full day of tracking by the Native American ended in the second day, brought a surprise. The same Reno Evening Gazette article had the following, quote, the final dash was up a steep, narrow draw extending a few hundred yards

Starting point is 01:06:38 from the main canyon. Joe Clifford was leading in the finishing sprint. The article has further descriptions about the dangers of the area and then finishes as follows, quote, at last, the overhanging gnarled limb of the mountain of Mahogany barred the trail sheltering the baby who was curled up under one protruding bow as an ox yoke circles the neck of a steer. Man, then 30s language is wild. God, Ernest Hemingway, right?

Starting point is 01:07:03 This shit, what the fuck? Jesus. Searchers stated that any sudden movement by the boy could have broken his neck, but that he was asleep when found. He awoke when searches started to prod him. The boy was found at six 30 p.m. Lawrence had scraped knees, torn clothing and scratches all over his body. He was slowly taken off the mountain to a hospital where he fully recovered. Now, one of the dozen newspapers I reviewed for this that Paul Leeds,

Starting point is 01:07:29 rather, I'd reviewed for this story had one mention of about Lawrence making a statement about ever what happened to him. And that's kind of where the mystery lies. The Gazette has one more quote saying, the most remarkable thing of the entire affair, according to Dr. Macleod and others, is that the boy survived the bitter cold nights as the temperature dropped to nearly zero at the point where the child was found. The elevation is nearly 9000 feet, according to estimates

Starting point is 01:07:54 made by the United States Survey Office in Reno. So they found him. It was one of where he disappears, a three year old disappears and is found over a mile away, 9000 feet high, curled up in a ball. Still alive. How much how much time has gone by? Four days, I want to say it was that. Let me let me see if I can find. I mean, it's possible for a kid to wonder over four days, a mile away.

Starting point is 01:08:18 Let's see, the 16th to the 18th, so two days. I can see it happening in two days, but it's less. It becomes less and less likely the shorter amount of time that. But I mean, like I could wonder a mile and not even mean it. You know what I mean? Like it's not it's true that far. The fact that he survived is also like super cool and super unique that he was able to do it. I mean, that's I'm glad he survived.

Starting point is 01:08:40 It's just I wonder what what happened. You know, again, he was three, so I wonder if the memory is even there. But it's a bummer that we never got an interview with this guy, like what happened, how it went down or or any of that stuff. It just it's just I wonder what happened. I mean, the fact that he had no animal marks means no, he wasn't at least carried away by something. There was no claw marks or bite marks.

Starting point is 01:09:01 That's probably why he's alive. Yeah, it's just interesting. It's another one of those things where just like weirdly disappeared and weirdly found in an area that a three year old I would have a very hard time getting to. Then not impossible, but that's about that. And that, gentlemen, is where I'm going to lay the stories down. We could keep going through little stories, but I think this is a nice like lukewarm dip back into familiar territory

Starting point is 01:09:27 before we do something a little bit different than we did in episode two. Give us a hand. What's coming? What's coming up? Well, I kind of gave you a hint a little bit. We'll probably do one or two more stories just as a refresh, but we're going to go through what the the missing four and one beliefs are. What they think is actually going on here in terms of conspiracy, potentially paranormal or interdimensional. And then I want to talk about the new information that's come out

Starting point is 01:09:51 since the years that we've done it and what has been released since and maybe talk a little bit about the documentaries. I still have one more I need to watch. So I want to watch that before this week and next. Do you have a total number of missing people? You said that before, I think you did. No, he's from just like out of his books, just like in like the missing people in the forest that we have no sign of.

Starting point is 01:10:13 I think it's thousands a year. I know it's very, very hot. One thousand six hundred individuals go missing into the United States National Parks every year. OK, there you go. We will return to this next week, everybody. Thank you so much. I'm very excited to return to the world of missing four one one after some time away from it.

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Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 164 - Missing 411 Part 1: The Soft Reboot

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