Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 166 - The Coronado Group Abduction Part 1: Re-Education

Episode Date: August 20, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:20 And new movies like Babylon starring Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie. What do you say we coming for my close-up now? A whole lot of new. Paramount Plus. Stream now. Hello everybody and welcome back to the Chilluminati Podcast, episode 166. I am one of your hosts, Mike Martin. Join by none other than the Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy of LA.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Have I done that yet? You have, but that's fine. Oh, I have? You're Rob Briden and Stephen Cougan. Rob Briden and Stephen Cougan? What? That's who you guys are. Stephen Cougan is such a weird...
Starting point is 00:01:16 I've never heard anybody call him Stephen Cougan. Well, that's what this list calls him and that's what I'm using right now. That's very pretty. You and Cougan. I don't know who these people are, but they bicker and do impressions at each other apparently. You definitely know who Steve Cougan is. I'm looking at a picture of him right now.
Starting point is 00:01:32 You do. I believe you. You don't, you do. Oh, gotcha. That makes more sense. Alright, Jesse knows him. Yeah, who's who? Come on, you gotta pick.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Here's what I need to know about Mr. Cougan. Hamlet 2. Yeah. I'm sorry, what? Hamlet 2. It was a sequel to Hamlet? Just take some time. Go watch the movie Hamlet 2.
Starting point is 00:01:53 I didn't think there was much sequel bait at the end of Hamlet. Yeah, Hamlet 2. Don't watch it. Alright. I mean, I'll look it up. That's for another day now. That's not what this podcast is for. I mean, he's in a bunch of different stuff, but like, you know...
Starting point is 00:02:05 I'm gonna go with Rob Bryden because I stand... I identify with the country of Wales. I feel connected to Wales. I've never been there. I just want to, real bad. I think I would vibe with Wales. You want to be there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:19 He's Welsh? I want to go to Wales. I'm Rob Bryden. You're Steve Cougan. Perfect. Here for it. They have such a beautiful bromance, the two of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I love it. That was another easy one. No arguing as to who is who. You all filled your roles perfectly and I can only agree because I know nothing. For people who are not into weird indie films, he was the Roman dude in Night of the Museum. He was the little Roman figure. Yeah. Never saw that movie though.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I would have pegged you for a guy who saw Night of the Museum 1. For sure. For sure. Makes sense because I only saw, you know, Back to the Future 1. He was uncredited as having a cameo in Hot Fuzz. Does that help? I haven't seen Hot Fuzz. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:02:56 He actually played Laurel in the Laurel and Hardy movies. Isn't that crazy? Oh my God. That's wild. Well, what a coincidence. What a wild coincidence. You've never seen Alan Partridge? You've never seen 24-hour party people?
Starting point is 00:03:10 No way he's seen any of these movies. I don't even, that doesn't ring a bell. There's no way. There's no way. It doesn't even ring a bell. No. Despicable Me 2? I've never seen any Despicable Me's.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Does that include Minions? It does include Minions. No, but I know every video game in existence instead. So, you know, that's just the trade-off. All right. Yeah. Like, you know. There you go.
Starting point is 00:03:34 That's a trade-off. Yeah. Come on, Jesse. Now, all of us can work at Blockbuster Video for six years like me. Yeah, exactly. But we're trying, you know, we're re-educating me over on Patreon with the Rotten Popcorn Show. You know, we're watching good movies.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Look at that segue. You ever feel like you're working with, like, another Laker? You know what I mean? Like, you're all set for the slam dunk, and they, somebody else has to lay it up and throw it up into the air and slam it down just like you will with your subscription at patreon.com slash chilluminati pot, where you can not only get access to that new show that Mathis was just talking about, Rotten Popcorn, where we watch movies that are not movies that Mathis hasn't seen, but really just movies that no one has ever seen.
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Starting point is 00:04:31 You get access to our mini-sodes, which we record every time we record an episode. It's a wonderful place to be. It's a great website. Yeah, we got double mini-sodes hitting today because last week I had a thunderstorm hit while we were recording. So we couldn't get the mini-sode out. Isn't that crazy? It's a double feature.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Isn't that crazy that that happened? Weird what I was talking about, and then a weird weather event comes around and makes it difficult for me to finish my job, one of the many different things that cause missing 411 to happen. That happened to me on Scary Game Squad. Oh, that's right. Yeah. That thing.
Starting point is 00:04:59 That was weird. That thing on SGS that happened to you guys with that. That turned me into Dale Gribble for like a week. He's like, they're after me. You know, this week I'm actually very excited, though, because we can now tell everybody we have a live show coming, actually. Oh. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:05:14 That's right. Well, follow us over at twitter.com slash Chiluminati Pod, but at the end of October, as tends to be the case with this show, we may or may not have a Halloween live show happening over in the LA area somewhere in the last week of October. So again, follow us at Chiluminati Pod over on Twitter, and you'll see when the date goes live. Of course, we'll announce it officially next episode as well. We would love to see you.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Come join us for... I'm not going to spoil it, but there was something we were very, very excited to do at our last live show. And unfortunately, due to some tech issues, we couldn't do it. And it upset all three of us tremendously, because it was going to be absolutely hilarious. Well, it's happening this time. You don't want to miss it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Yeah, we're doing it. We got an advantage. We got this locked up, baby. Yeah, baby. I'm super excited. More at our disposal than the target across the street this time, baby. And the live shows are fun. They're different every time.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And everybody has a great time and laughs and gets drunk. So it's a good time. This one will be all ages, I think, as opposed to the last one, which was 21 plus, but you'll get all the children. Thank God you said that, because I was about to be like, my butt is ready to be pinched. But I will tell you, the show is certainly not fit for seven-year-olds. Just so you know. Neither is my butt.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah, exactly. And you're a child listening to us like, what the fuck happened to you? Like, why do you want this? Like, go play Fortnite. Go jump around. You can play Goku in Fortnite alongside Rick from Rick and Morty. And like. Goku whips out the red lightsaber and cuts someone down.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Right. Can I tell you? I literally there's a video on Twitter somewhere where guys like this game is amazing. It's him flying in on the Dragon Ball cloud as Chun Lee. He jumps off and pulls out a red lightsaber and kills a guy. And I was like, the future's here. The future's here. That's the craziest thing I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:07:10 That's insane to me. I love it though. Gene Park was talking about the multiverse, or he was talking about the metaverse and he was saying Fortnite is the metaverse. Yeah. It's already there. Yeah, it's there. Might as well just go play Fortnite.
Starting point is 00:07:21 I agree. Boys, I'm actually very excited for this episode, though. You know, we had kind of a, I was, you know, we'll say I was a little disappointed with the revelations of missing 411. People were talking about how you were really hurt and they were like, Jesse and Alex are trying to like bring him back from the brink. And I was like, it doesn't mean everything's made up, man. Come on.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah, I know. Just but that one topic, you know, you might still have, he might be out there still, dude. Yeah. Don't worry, man. He might have just been busy with other people's prayers. Come on, man. And I wanted to do, you know, the plan was to immediately start jumping into our next serial killer series of Jeffrey Dahmer, but we're going to put that on hold for something
Starting point is 00:08:00 that I want to be one part, but may end up being two parts. We're diving back into a world people have been dying to go back to for a long time now. It's time to go back to aliens, more specifically, the Coronado abduction scenario that happened in 1994 in Hotel Coronado. No way. I thought you were talking about like Conquistador. I was like, what the hell in, in San Diego? Yeah, it's a Coronado Island.
Starting point is 00:08:28 Correct. Yeah. Yeah. Correct. That one. Dude, this place is fucked up. On this, there was a UFO conference. Everybody was there, including the president of the United States himself, Bill Clinton.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And he was at the UFO conference. Yeah. He was giving a speech over at the UFO conference. You got to remember Clinton was always and always had been like very into UFOs, very. Hillary too, actually. Yeah. She was talking big game on late night shows leading up to the election. And what makes us so interesting is that multiple people on the very same night all
Starting point is 00:08:58 had very different, but still alien encounters in a hotel that was surrounded by the Secret Service and then not everybody experienced, which we'll talk a little bit more about in terms of. Whoa. So everyone saw something different. Yes. But what's interesting about it and we'll talk more about it when we get to it is what they all experienced are still common like abduction scenario.
Starting point is 00:09:23 So for instance, one room had a gray. Grays were there. What? In another room. You can't say one room had a gray. Grays were there. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So one abduction scenario in this hotel had grays. Is this like escape rooms or like, is this looking to go to a hot house and it's like. We're talking about hotels at night when they went to bed. This is the room with a bed. Yeah. They like appeared in the room like bright light. They appeared. People became paralyzed and abduction scenario things started taking place.
Starting point is 00:09:53 One room had like a very typical gray encounter, but another room had an encounter with if you remember talking about them way back in the day, the praying mantis aliens that we had spoken about way back in episode, I believe this is going to be my favorite episode ever. This sounds insane. It is a fascinating tale, which again, we will get to the drinks. What? I got it. And then there's a bunch of other, other encounters as well that hold a little bit.
Starting point is 00:10:20 I don't want to, I'm jumping ahead. I really want to talk about those things, but we'll get to them when we get to them. So this was in 1994. Before we talk about anything else, let's of course talk about our sources, two books in particular that we ended up using for, or that I ended up using rather for this encounter. First is the book by Jacques Vallée dimensions, a casebook of alien contact. Oh, well, Jacques Vallée. I mean, I mean, you got, you got your, you got your.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Your first like real taste of Jacques Vallée on the alien documentary that we watched around popcorn. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It is, if you are into ufology at all, this is one of those must read books to like on ground level alien stuff, because Jacques Vallée goes less on like the physical existence of aliens and more that that dimensional reality kind of explanation as to where they come from.
Starting point is 00:11:10 The like mushrooms version of aliens. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's a great way to explain it. Like the mushroom versions of what these things might be. The other book we ended up using as well is Coronado, the president, the secret service and alien abductions written by Yvonne R. Smith, who is the therapist, the therapist that worked with all of these Coronado victims, I guess you can call them or people who experience stuff here.
Starting point is 00:11:32 And so her book has all the medical files that you can, you can look at. They're all like scanned in photos of evidence of them actually, you know, having gone to the convention and she kind of goes through each case. And it's important to know about Yvonne specifically is that she is a hypnotherapist, of course, specifically. She became working began working with people specifically with PTSD in the late 80s. And in the 90s, she kind of fell into like they're the people who have had abduction scenarios and approached it from a PTSD angle of, you know, maybe family trauma or abuse
Starting point is 00:12:08 that caused these people to believe that they were being abducted by aliens because the brain's way of masking the truth of what happened so you can kind of move on with your life. But she particularly is like highly like I just want to talk about she's got her degree from the California Hypnosis Motivation Institute, the only accredited institution in the United States for hypnotherapy accredited by who Dr. Strange. She founded the Close Encounter Research Organization, later renamed the Close Encounter Resource Organization and has kind of been involved in the UFO world from the early 90s onward.
Starting point is 00:12:47 If again, if you're interested in this case specifically, I would highly suggest this book even for just like the historical context and some of the newspaper clippings and the medical examination. We have like photos of the wounds on some of these people and the object that was taken out of their of their wounds like little scoops which were found to be a weird glass with a fibrous material around it and nothing more, very weird stuff and we'll get to that. I promise. And that might be episode two because we need to rewind even further.
Starting point is 00:13:18 The last time we talked about aliens in this in this regard was episode like three or four something like first batch episodes and we talked about this regard. Yeah. What we talked about in that time, maybe you kind of remember a little bit was the 12 alien species theory. Oh, yes. Sure. Which is where we got the Mantis people and the tall whites and the other racist aliens.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Yeah. I want to go through in a little bit more detail than last time what these 12 races are because we see a bunch of them in this situation all in the same night. And I just want to re-talk about all these and depending on how much time we have left, we might. But yeah, we got to start. So we're done. You've already announced this is a double episode.
Starting point is 00:13:57 It might be a double episode. It depends on how long it takes us to get through these races of aliens. No rush. We need to go quickly because they're all fake. But yes. No, no, no, no, no. This is all very important because the abduction scenarios that happened at the Coronado Hotel, each one correlates very, very similarly to those specific races.
Starting point is 00:14:16 So for instance, the gray encounters had were more about the star seed program, the high bridge that they have been creating. In fact, a lot of what ends up happening through the hypnotherapy is a lot of these people who were abducted that night end up coming forward with abduction scenarios that they had no idea of throughout their childhood. And it all kind of weirdly connects. But again, we're jumping ahead a little bit. So let's start with the 12 alien species theory.
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Starting point is 00:15:50 For those who don't remember what it is, it's the idea that visiting Earth itself is that there are 12 distinct alien species. Some of them have reached out and worked with governments officially. Others are just swinging by and doing what they want. And then there's a theory that Earth itself is kind of this control planet for these aliens. And it's more like a gas station pit stop that they come by, get what they need, and kind of leave. We're in the boonies, so they don't, we're not super important.
Starting point is 00:16:21 But the 12 alien species, you'll definitely have heard of some. I bet you the rest you probably have forgotten at this point. So let's start. Is the gas station part of the theory? Us being the gas station? After we talk about the alien abductions themselves and why they may have happened or what was causing it. I'm not sure that theory of like, maybe they were just here to piss off the president.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I don't like the gas station theory. It's not a fun one. Well the idea of us being a zoo, fine. Us being like a testing ground, fine. Us being like a prison planet, fine. But the gas station theory just seems weird, because like in my mind it's like, yeah, we're going to go down to the gas station and pick us up a six pack of humans. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Like it's very weird. Yeah, you're exactly. I don't like that. The contract that the grays signed with Eisenhower back in the 40s is they had 650,000 allowances of humans that they could take. But they may not actually be holding to that and may be doing whatever they want, because according to President Bill Clinton himself, if we were at war with any of these aliens, we wouldn't be around to be talking about the war with the aliens.
Starting point is 00:17:24 So you know. Well, yeah. Exactly. So, you know, what are we going to do? We can't like force them to stick to their word. What are we going to do for them? And the big thing too is, you know, one of the reasons they may even be taking us is because we're one of the very few races out there that can like we can feel emotion that
Starting point is 00:17:40 a lot of these people are a lot of these aliens are super intelligent, but they're like a mix of technology and biology and they don't really have the ability to feel emotions. They're all purely intellectual. And that's a reason that we're like a hot spot as well as because we're dumb monkeys, but we feel a lot of emotions and they're trying to figure that out. Why it's important. There's, you know, no real solid. Why it's important.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah. Why it's important that we can feel emotions and what do they want from that? Like, what is what is it that they want out of that? Is it just because they can no longer feel it and there's a curiosity there? Is it something that's very rare in the universe as a whole? Emotions. Emotions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:18 The ability to have feelings, you know, and as opposed to being what these things might be, which is a mix of maybe machine, like again, the grays are theorized to be mostly machine at this point, but we're going on a Mathis alien tangent. So we're just, we'll start at the very top. They're all Vulcans. The galaxy is filled with Vulcans and we're there to Captain Kirk them be like, maybe it's, it's possible. It's very possible.
Starting point is 00:18:40 We don't, we don't know. And that's what's so frustrating about it. Yeah. I'll be bones. Just you have emotions. Damn green, blooded bastard, right? And Kirk just sleeps with all of them. So they clearly have like, at least that's not what Kirk does to Spock.
Starting point is 00:18:55 He sleeps with Spock. That's not what he does. I don't know what Captain Kirk is, but what if it was? We don't know that. Yeah, we don't know. I'm not against it. I'm not against it. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:08 I love it. Let's start at the top of the list. It's list of 12 aliens with the most familiar, the grays. You don't remember what we either the general is all general consensus theories. Of course, there's a million different ones out there, but there's, these are the most regularly believed is that the grays come from a star system known as the Zeta Zeti reticuli, which is a star system located somewhere in the southern celestial hemisphere and are thought to be one of the alien races that are in current contact with Earth.
Starting point is 00:19:36 They're about according to them. And again, the information that comes from aliens can be suspect, but they supposedly come from a little over 40 light years away. And they're basically our closest practical neighbor, the closest intellectual species near us, but they are the ones that, you know, they're not the neighbor that you want hanging around. Is that true? According to them, that they are the closest species to us.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I thought it was Alpha Centauri was the closest, but there's no one there, huh? Is what they're saying. Yeah, I don't know. They're saying is like the only ones here, they're the, they are the closest intellectual have you seen contact, Mathis? No. Oh, that is real one that we need to go. I know this is, I'll be in LA soon enough.
Starting point is 00:20:18 So yeah, the tangent that like, I just want to tell you guys really quick because it's been on my mind. And now we're talking about space. I was watching, uh, like basically a scientist, like give a talk about space travel and how if you could travel as fast as light and that kind of thing and he's like, look, I'm just going to do the math for you. Yeah. So he did the math and he was like, okay, so if it takes four years to get to another
Starting point is 00:20:45 planet at the speed of light, that's four years for us. Yeah. Now for the person moving. The person moving, I think it was like 63 days, something like that. Crazy. Yeah. So time travel is real, but just in the forward direction right now. And that's why I think you need to like think about the perspective there that if someone
Starting point is 00:21:05 could travel speed of light, them getting to us wouldn't be all that, you know, if they could, they could do it very quickly, but that's assuming anyone can travel the speed of light again. Just exactly. Like there's no way like mathematically it is possible, but practically and scientifically either it is impossible or we just haven't figured out that sign. Yeah. That's why scientists like wormholes because it's simply easier.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yes. You just puncture the fabric of space. And apparently they've confirmed it can be done. We just don't want the tech to do it. Like we don't know how. Exactly. Again, but if we had millions of more years to figure it out, maybe, maybe there's something out there that has figured it out.
Starting point is 00:21:40 We don't know. But the bad guy, like the grays rather are kind of like the generic bad guys of the aliens. We don't know what they want. They're the tall humanoid with the big eyes. Guys, because they're the ones that tend to have the most close accounts of the third kind. They were pretty chill. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Well, Steven Spielberg kind of sugarcoated it a little bit. Whoa. Whoa. Do you think he works with them, Mathis? Real talk. Do you think he works with them? Do I think Spielberg workers with them? No, but I do believe he probably has more and he got was given way more information than
Starting point is 00:22:08 we we are allowed to believe when making that movie with the people he was in contact with to make that movie. So I think you may know a little bit more. I do. But the grays are the ones that kind of treat us like like cattle almost. We're there to be scooped up, to be implanted, to be milked for seed and, you know, eggs. You're obsessed. Like like.
Starting point is 00:22:27 No, that's just the grays. That's not me. You're obsessed with being milked for seed. And I'm like, you know, that phrase has lost all meaning to me. You're obsessed with being milked. Just milk me, daddy. Just do it. Just fucking do it.
Starting point is 00:22:37 I don't do it. Yeah. They're the ones that typically swing down to earth. Your car goes dark. They just kind of pick off the people in the back alleys and like take them away. And then, you know, put them back with missing time, sometimes like miles up the highway where they were actually taken. That's the typical gray scenario.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Now the the grays themselves, again, we don't really know what it is they want out of us. We figure it's DNA or a hybrid program, especially with some of the people who have had supposedly been brought up to breastfeed their star seed child that star children. Yeah, that we that they, you know, aren't aware of because the memories are kind of wiped every time. And in fact, one of the people at the Coronado, the Coronado abduction scenario had that very thing happen where she already had a star child. She had no idea and they wanted her to breastfeed it.
Starting point is 00:23:28 And the theory is they're looking to like keep that human contact, maybe, you know, kind of build that emotion between the parent and the child so that when they do get old enough, they can slip them into earth without being detected because star children really look just kind of like humans. That's really all they look like. Can't you remember that? Come on, you know, you don't remember this. Oh, I remember.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Look, I for years worked an overnight shift listening to Coast to Coast AM. So that's what I say. I absolutely know what you're talking about. I just there's a whole Coast to Coast episode on this, by the way. You're George Knapp actually interviews Yvonne Smith in that episode. Well, if you want to go, go, go listen to it. You can not do that. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Don't do that. It's from 2014. It's kind of a stay right here, baby. Well, after this, yeah, after this, after this. So that's, you know, that's the grace that's up and down to the grace. Questions, comment, concern, gentlemen about the grace. We all understand the grace, right? The grays are the the intro to algebra of aliens.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Exactly. If you if you know anything about aliens, you know the grace. That's pretty much the alien. Yeah. Yeah. So now we go with the deeper cuts. The next on the list is we're going to talk about our the Sasani. The Sasani are hybrids that are particularly common across the cosmos, supposedly, and are believed to be of the alien races in contact with our very planet.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Some even believe that we humans are actually genetic hybrids ourselves, which is can be contributed to the grays, the reptilians, as theories that go back and forth. But that we were just apes that were kind of scooped up. They fucked with our DNA a bunch and then humans were created. And that's kind of like how we got the evolutionary boost pushed forward. And the Sasani are supposedly a hybrid that was developed not only by reptilians, but also gray human hybrids.
Starting point is 00:25:20 So it was kind of like a group project between these two species. Their development was apparently supposed to be found necessary after the grays mutated themselves through genetic genetic experimentation to a point where they could no longer reproduce using conventional means. And that's why they're here fucking with humans. See, it all connects. They they. So, yeah, this is fan fiction, but please. No, it's not. This is actually very true.
Starting point is 00:25:48 The aliens have landed on earth. Actually, this is very true. Missing. This sounds like made up. This sounds like the twelve theories, the twelve race theory. No, no, no. This sounds like someone was like, bro, we got reptilians. We got grays. I'm going to make a new thing so I can write my own book on this new garbage. Like this is I'm fine with the fact that they're like, well,
Starting point is 00:26:09 the reptilians and the grays got together. No, stop. It happens. There's a whole government system out there that we're not aware of. If you subscribe to the twelve aliens. So what you're saying is it's Jupiter ascending is what you're saying. Yes, it's all Jupiter ascending. That is the most accurate movie in the history of movies. Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:26:24 That movie was created as soft disclosure, Jesse, where they're trying to prepare the human mind for the reality of our world. You know, the Wachowskis. Yeah, I want to know this all the time. No, but like, again, I don't necessarily subscribe to the twelve alien theory. The twelve alien species theory. But it's important because if aliens are truly if these these creatures exist for one minute, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:49 we posit that they are interdimensional or something and they kind of attach to our consciousness, if one believes in these theories, I can see that that might be the form that it ends up taking for these particular people, because that is what they are familiar with or expecting or what have you. But that's we'll talk about that later. We still got to talk about the Sasani. So the Sasani after being produced by the grey
Starting point is 00:27:11 by the reptilians and human grey hybrids, because the greys had mutated themselves so far, they can no longer bone and produce children. The Sasani were only a no longer bone. What was that? You said they could no longer bone like a true scientist. Yeah, they couldn't. Yeah, that's what we are here. We're true scientists. The only thing that the grays were actually doing at the time
Starting point is 00:27:29 and still are is cloning cloning works, but they can no longer genetically actually reproduce. So you're kind of like stuck on the same generation of grays for whoever knows. How are you? Are you a Raylian? Did you convert to Raylianism? This is me. I finally converted after talking about Raylianism. I keep getting ads, so I decided to click on one and I saw the truth. I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Bring on the alien gism all over the place. Hi, everyone. Mathis is lying right now. Don't don't believe that. Don't I don't want any one of the audience to be like heard, Matt, don't join. I'm not on that side. It seems like they have a lot of sex. I will say that is true, actually, but not with aliens, which is what I want.
Starting point is 00:28:09 So or they're getting ready. They're probably practice for something. Maybe they got like a like a tantric sex guidebook made by aliens. I do believe that actually is part of the vibe. I'm in there. You know what? Maybe I will we'll recheck with me next week and see if I actually went that route. I got a trailer for you to watch. Yeah, they do. And it's phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:28:27 So, yeah, they they didn't want it like again, the genetic variation and the genetic code being repeated over time is not what they were looking for. So Grace kind of went that way. Basically, they came to Earth and convinced a few people to share genetic information with them. And from this genetic crossover, the universe was blessed, quote unquote, with an entirely new type of being the Sasani, who are, in a way, like our, I guess, kind of like alien cousins. They're like our cousins, genetically, partially and Stargate vibes.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Yeah. Yeah. I haven't watched Stargate, but I'm going to assume. Yes. OK. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll take that. I'm fine with that. That makes sense to me. He's a lot from a guy who hasn't seen the film. So the Sasani, after being created, partially by human and partially by the Grace, instead of being put on Earth, they got the grand prize. They got their own fucking planet.
Starting point is 00:29:19 They got given their very own planet to start their new life on from them. The genetic crossover, like they I guess it was unique enough or valuable enough where keeping them on Earth wasn't really that viewed as safe or whatever. But yeah, they gave them a new planet and they were able to free Rome and evolve into the best beings that they could be. And much like us on Earth, they were then left alone to evolve on their other planet. The Sasani have a stronger connection with their higher selves. Some believe to be their psychic where psychic abilities tend to come from
Starting point is 00:29:50 and are believed to be where humans will one day be or evolve to be. Although these Sasani are specifically millennia ahead of us in terms of like their evolution and humanity's consciousness and awakening. So that's the Sasani. They are basically better humans. They are a better version of what we will eventually be that have been given their own planet. And honestly, it sounds like I would love to visit that place.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Sounds kind of cool. So that's a Sasani. Any questions, comments or concerns of the Sasani boys? Who? So many everything. But but I have to in order to get through it, I have to accept it. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you kind of have to accept this is happening right now. We are in the alien universe. We are we are deep in, but we're only two knuckles deep.
Starting point is 00:30:31 We've got 10 knuckles to go. OK. So here we go to the next one on the alien list, the Arcturians. You remember talking about? Wait, I got a question about the Sasani really. Yeah, yeah, please. I don't know if I'll be able to answer it, but I'll do my best. Yeah, yeah, who who named them? That's what they were dubbed.
Starting point is 00:30:46 That's a good question. Why are they called the Sasani? Maybe they named themselves after years of evolutionary freedom on their planet. Is there like a like we are called the Sasani? Well, again, yeah, these are all that they're supposed to be contacting with in contact with Earth. So the Sasani, when they reach out to us, call themselves that. But where that name originated, was it given to them by the reptilians
Starting point is 00:31:08 or the gray human hybrids? Or was it something they named themselves after evolutionary time on their planet? We don't know. Maybe it's we have no idea what the what the origin of that name is or what it could be. It could be anything. It could be anything. OK, the Arcturians of all the species that are believed to inhabit the Milky Way.
Starting point is 00:31:26 These are what are we considered the most ancient and wisest of all these 12 species. They're said to be one of the alien races also in contact with our planet. And you can kind of think of like if a good example that they give. And I'll use here, too, is like if Yoda could be assigned a species, this would be them because of just their wise, not the way they look, but the wise ancient nature of their existence. They're around for a long time. They're very, you know, apparently very peace driven.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Apparently, theirs was the very first system to be given the gift of life in our galaxy. And all of the other species ourselves included may actually be descended from the Arcturians themselves. They have mutated and evolved over time and now actually exist in multiple different forms. But the main race of Arcturians stands at about five feet high, green skin, large eyes that can, quote, see right through you. So yeah, they look like you're kind of typical big eyed aliens,
Starting point is 00:32:22 but they're not as short as grays. They just have the green skin and the big ol eyeballs. They are a peaceful race that is highly skilled in psychic use. You know, they don't really do physical combat, but they're very good at manipulating a mind or mental warfare if need be. But they are, yeah, they're the more ancient race that's kind of just maybe they were the ones that went across the galaxy and seeded life that gave rise to all of these species.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And we are simply the youngest of the many species throughout the Milky Way Galaxy in terms of what is descending from them. That's the Arcturians. Pretty straightforward, pretty simple. Where do they come from? We don't know. We have no idea what the name of their planet is. We just know that they visit. They don't they don't give specific information as to exactly where they're from. Each individual species tends to be a little some are more free
Starting point is 00:33:18 and some are more shielded about their origins, their intent. The grays are very open, but the grays also have contradicted themselves multiple time. And sometimes their actions don't really line up with what they're saying they're here to do. So it's also hard to take anything at face value because we don't know that no or can possibly know the motivations of these of these creatures of these species out there in the galaxy.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Now, the next one you both remember, it's a very simple one. The Nordics, these are the white supremacy aliens, six foot tall, long blonde hair, beautiful people, finely toned bodies, white supremacy aliens. Yeah, yeah, it's literally called the tall whites, bro. I mean, yeah, I'm with you. I hate that. Yeah, it's, you know, some believe this is where the inspiration for the Scandinavians got their like the inspiration for their gods came from where like Thor came from,
Starting point is 00:34:09 where these interactions with the Nordics way back in the day. And so the Nordic, you know, they the the deity system that they kind of fell in and in with is more molded after their encounters with these creatures. And while the grays get a lot of a kind of attention when it comes to alien sightings here, the Nordics are a species that come into contact maybe as much or as regularly as the grays do themselves.
Starting point is 00:34:34 But unlike the grays kind of leave behind traumatic experiences in these horrible, like, you know, very confusing memories, these guys are the ones that are more interested in the well being of the human race, way more than the grays are, at the very least. And some eyewitness reports that have come in contact with the Nordics have actually seen grays in the same craft as the Nordics. Which what are they doing in there? Like serving them like?
Starting point is 00:35:02 Yeah, they only seem passing. Because usually when you get taken up by a ship, you know, no matter what the the race is, usually you're you're very restricted on where you can go. You're kind of brought somewhere and you're locked in so you only get glimpses of stuff. But is it like a caste system vibe? Like is it like they're subservient?
Starting point is 00:35:18 So that's actually the one of the leading theories is that the grays themselves may actually be created servants or slaves to the Nordics. And that's why they are more by a more more technology than than biology in terms of the grays. They're like more cyborgs. You don't think it's like. I don't want to say subtle racism.
Starting point is 00:35:38 It is like the space white guys are the good guys. Yeah, and the people and the grey people and everyone else, the Flatwoods, Monster, whatever, they're all those are all the bad guys. And it's the space white men. They are going to save us. That's like, I don't know, it has a weird vibe to it that I'm not. I'm not. Other peaceful aliens.
Starting point is 00:36:00 We're going to talk about that. And it's the idea of Nordics existed before before racism. I don't think so before racism. But we will say that Hitler and the Nazis really took and like co-opted the idea of like these these Nordic creatures. And obviously, over time, since then to their own lore has been warped by our own people to be more and more fitting racist stuff. So it's 1000 percent important to be very aware that, of course,
Starting point is 00:36:29 racist stuff is being co things are being co-opted by racists and so on and using as a messenger to push their own message. It's just there's legends of like perfect people that come from the heavens. Like, so I get it. I understand it. But it like just the way the story is told is like, well, yeah, as much aliens and the only good ones are the white aliens. It is a very like white man's burden vibe to it.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Of like, it's we have to take we have to take care of the galaxy. Yeah, us white aliens have to take care of the galaxy because they can't take care of themselves. And so we're going to fly down there and put the federation. I mean, not wrong, not wrong to kind of warp it back to what Alex brought up. But yes, that is a possible explanation is that their caste system, they are created and that's why they lack empathy or emotion
Starting point is 00:37:18 because they were created to be kind of this ideal butler servant species for the Nordics themselves. And maybe why the grays themselves are looking to change their own DNA and interpret more, you know, human DNA into them, simply just to make it to bring themselves closer to almost Pinocchio. You know, I want to be a real boy. I want to be not just this machine servant. It's Jeep four by four season.
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Starting point is 00:38:52 The next up on the list are the Pleiadians, which come from a bright star cluster, according to them known as Pleiades and are one of the beings in the Milky Way that also very closely resemble humans themselves. They're thought to be one of the alien races that are in contact with our planet. And you could be sitting in a room with the Pleiadian and not even know it that they they're just that human looking. A major difference between us and them, though, is that they are particularly sensitive to the psychic energies that are constantly streaming
Starting point is 00:39:22 across the known universe. And this means that the best way, though, if you want to reach out to one and you want to meet in a Pleiadian, the theory goes and the method is meditation, meditation with the singular focus of meeting a Pleiadian. And people have said through that meditation and sending out that signal because they are so sensitive to the psychic waves of the universe is that Pleiadians occasionally do show up and do respond to these wishes or the I can't call it, but this meditation and intent, the psychic call.
Starting point is 00:39:55 So if any of you can meditate out there and you want to meet a Pleiadian, apparently they're very nice, please do. I can't I've tried to meditate. I just I can't do it. But I've never met one before in all my travels. Maybe you have, though, and you don't know. That's very true. Yeah, I have had some magical interactions in my life.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Exactly. Oh, let's see. Yeah, and we've all had some magical interactions in our life. It's part of, you know, being alive, make a question if our reality is truly there. Perhaps it's a thin veneer that we nearly need to pierce through with the assistance of drugs. All right, let's move on to the next set of aliens here in our 12, this 12 species list, the Yael, Y-A-H-Y-E-L. There's been a lot of talk about which race will be the first to officially disclose their presence to earthlings.
Starting point is 00:40:37 And one thing that a lot of UFOologists and alien experts seem to believe is that the Yael might be the very species to make themselves known first. They are one of the alien races that are in contact with our planet and are known to be kind and loving and have been touted as the best beings to make first contact with due to their advanced and harmonious relationship with technology, something that obviously here on earth we are fully indulging in whether our civilization is ready for what that kind of technology brings us socially or emotionally or not.
Starting point is 00:41:14 I mean, look at just what Twitter has done, you know what I mean? But they are species that are harmonious with their technology. Typically, whenever an invention or a piece of technology comes about, it ends up coming about as a weapon before anything else and then eventually gets given to civilians as more like a peaceful, like a peace thing. GPS is a good example of that. And then we take care of our needy second, where the Yael are the opposite. Their invention served their society first and weaponry wasn't something that
Starting point is 00:41:47 was their major focus. The Yael know. Space hippies. Yeah, they're very much space hippies. Exactly, that's a great way to look at. I'm here for it. Yeah. They're probably the ones who are like, we bring you drugs.
Starting point is 00:41:58 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, man. Man, those ones from Toy Story. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Oh, the drugs. The Yael themselves know that we are not necessarily the friendliest beings out there. So they take their time making themselves known by easing their way into our psyches
Starting point is 00:42:16 with friendly UFO sightings such as the 1999, March 1997, citing the Phoenix lights. What? They were the greatest claim that they were responsible for. They claim this? That's their claim according to the people who have met with them. The people who met them? Yeah, they claim that they claim.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Some of the claims that the Yael have claimed that they are the ones that claimed responsibility. I'm glad we got there because you said they claim they did this. I want to let you know. We're assuming that these things are real in this part of the episode. This is they claim they did this. We are playing the role of believer here. And so in the role of believer, they are the ones that are responsible for the Phoenix lights.
Starting point is 00:42:59 They gave what? Thousands of people across the U.S. in Arizona. A huge spectacular light showing the sky. And there's still video out there of it that's really old and really like, you know, VHS late 90s of what you can see the lights in the sky. Like that's the Phoenix lights happened. That's what it was. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:18 We can't. I would love to say aliens. And I personally maybe even believe that it may have been, but we don't know what the Phoenix lights were. But the Yael, the space hippies. Yeah. And that's what that apparently was them. And they're they're taking really slow because they don't want us to start
Starting point is 00:43:31 throwing bombs or something at them, I imagine. Now we get to move on to one of my favorites, the Anunnaki planet X. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. You do know the Anunnaki. I do. I mean, I know this. I know they're real.
Starting point is 00:43:44 If the graves are like your base level, the Anunnaki are like the next step down, I think in terms of like down the iceberg. We're like that YouTube video where it's like the alien iceberg. Exactly. What's the name of that? What was the name of the human cousin ones? The Sasani. So do you think the Sasani and the Anunnaki have like sort of like linguistic similarity
Starting point is 00:44:03 in the names? No, the Anunnaki suck their assholes. Yeah, these are not good people. These are not good aliens. I mean, they are planet X, bro. They're related, right? The way, well, we'll talk about who the Anunnaki are and where they come from. So the Anunnaki specifically, a really good example is like,
Starting point is 00:44:19 what did we do when we colonized planet Earth? That's kind of what the Anunnaki do now. And that's what they apparently did to Earth when they arrived on Earth. They came from planet X, aka Nibiru, an almost mythical planet that some scientists believe rotates around our sun on a very wide elliptical orbit. And when it comes back, we're all doomed. And it goes so far out into the expanses of space before coming back in for a close shave with our sun.
Starting point is 00:44:49 This crazy elliptical orbit is what makes it present so hard to prove However, the presence of the Anunnaki have been noted down in texts that date back to the Mesopotamian cultures. Jesse, they are believed to be one of the alien races in contact with Earth, like all the others. Aliens. Yeah, that's all you need. Yeah, just aliens.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Aliens. On Nibiru's last brush with the planets of our inner solar system, it actually crashed into another rock. And the resulting collision collision created a planet that we now call Earth. They may be the origins of where this planet even came from. And while their planet was here for a few of the Anunnaki, when their planet was here, a few of the Anunnaki, you know, kind of like jumped off their world and went to our planet and onto ours in search of a yellow element that they coveted called gold.
Starting point is 00:45:42 They simply wanted the gold out of Earth. So if you they called it gold, why is gold so valuable? Like in our system gold, too. What was that? They know it as gold as well. Well, we it's the yeah, they what's the I don't know if they call it gold, but we call it gold. That's like the element they're here for.
Starting point is 00:45:59 They're like stripping and taking the planet. I would say gold is an alien word. I was like, OK, yeah, no. Yeah, I would love it if if like, hey, if you're out there and you're like an Anunnaki guy and you write books and stuff. Give us some sort of like BS about how why is the elemental symbol for gold AU, but it's called gold and just make up a thing about how that's what the aliens called it. I people would buy it.
Starting point is 00:46:23 People would buy it, bro. Just put it out there. It's true. But that should also that's also part of, you know, answers for people who believe in this particular theory that gold in our in our world is so valuable, not because it's like useful for healing or any of that shit. It's because the Anunnaki desire it. And so we desire it.
Starting point is 00:46:42 And they are they technically the reason we work our day to day sock, you know, our day to day jobs working our asses off all day long. Isn't, you know, because we are trying to improve our society. It's simply that we are forced labor for the Anunnaki on some level. And we are simply trying to produce what the Anunnaki want so badly, which is gold. And that is why we kind of exist in a society that has formed like us. If you believe that the Anunnaki are the reason our planet even exists or not. Now, you may notice that they're even in this list of 12.
Starting point is 00:47:16 There's multiple different theories as to how we came about. All of them different and in line with a different species. And that's because every single one of these alien species gives different answers as to their history and a reason we can't really trust them if they actually exist. OK, Anunnaki out of the way. Are we ready for the next one or my this one's like it's a short one, but it's fun. You said the Anunnaki were your favorite ones. I know, but these are fun because they're so fantasy like.
Starting point is 00:47:43 And I like I just really quickly want to interject because I had to look this up. Yeah. Gold production in the universe. Gold is thought to be produced in supernova nucleosynthesis from the collision of neutron stars. That is the coolest shit I've ever heard in my entire life. I love that. I love that gold is neutron stardust. That's actually awesome as hell. Is it rare then?
Starting point is 00:48:15 I wonder and considered, you know, in the size of the universe. I wonder if it's a rare current astrophysical model suggests that a single neutron star merger could generate between three and 13 Earth masses of gold. Jesus. Damn, that's crazy. That's still like a model as hell. So sick. That's yeah. That's so cool. All right. Hey, you know what?
Starting point is 00:48:36 Gold, I thought it was going to be like, oh, it just looks pretty. That's why people are like now that I know it's neutron stardust. Maybe there is something we don't understand about it. I might need to get me a big hunk. Yeah, a big hunk of gold and start running some science experiments on it. That's that. That's awesome. Oh my God. That's cool as hell. The next race we're going to talk about are the Alpha Draconians.
Starting point is 00:48:57 You remember? You shut up. Yeah. I think we did talk about them in that episode. This literally is Jupiter ascending. These are the bad guys that like this is absolutely what this is. Shut up. The Alpha Draconians actually came before the Anunnaki for the exact same reason. Minerals on our planet that they wanted,
Starting point is 00:49:18 and they were stripping our planet of it before the Anunnaki swung by. They're standing up at up to 22 feet tall. These crazy looking monster aliens are made up of pure muscle and genuinely just resemble dinosaurs or dragons. You can imagine that they were very unhappy when the Anunnaki showed up and took over, but they are still active in our planet with puppets placed in high echelons of government as they bide their time in an attempt to take over from the Anunnaki once again. So they are just waiting for their opportunity to flip the script on the Anunnaki and take
Starting point is 00:49:52 Earth back for themselves. They were here first. They really, they really, my God, that entire movie is like. Soft disclosure, baby. I mean, I almost believe like this is, I feel like they found a webpage that listed all this stuff and they included it, but. It's not hard to find. There's a list out.
Starting point is 00:50:12 There's many lists out there. Everything he says so far, I feel like is from that Jupiter ascending crazy, crazy that I still think about that movie. Not a good movie. It's following us all the time. It's following us everywhere we go. I say Genome, like way more than I want to. We have to do a rewatch of that for a rotten popcorn one day just because.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Oh, my God, since it's so similar, it's like the fucking. I know it really is like very similar to this. All right. These are one of the more, I would say the second best known right next to Grace on this list, the reptilians. They are, I would say Alex, maybe you disagree, but they're up there in terms of like equally knowable in terms of like your layman. I don't even think they're necessarily like it's cool that they fit into this myth.
Starting point is 00:50:55 But I think the famous of reptilians goes beyond UFA, UFO, UFO, like freaks and goes way into like, you know, a whole other type of paranormal sort of person. Like people who believe like the government is reptilians probably don't miss. I believe some people think they live inside the earth instead and are like, you know, just sort of like prehistoric creatures. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:23 So that that brings up a good point is like some of these aliens or a lot of these alien species are also recognized and known outside of this theory, like grazer, you know, gray encounters happen to people who don't believe or even know about this theory. So while you're going to get the reptilian and gray description, you're getting them in context of this theory. There are other theories that the reptilians were the first terrestrials and lived on this earth and underground and they still kind of exist and stuff. But in in context of the 12 alien theory, that's not the believed theory of what they
Starting point is 00:51:54 are. Actually, what the reptilians are in this particular, you know, in this particular theory is that they're also genetically engineered bipedal workforces created by the Anunnaki who were there to work the earth before anything else really happened. So the reptilians are like the grays of the Anunnaki? Yes. In a way, yeah, it's a good way to kind of look at them. They were just like a slave force for them.
Starting point is 00:52:16 Again, we know them as reptilians. They're scaly standing to about the size of a human being and they were driven underground by the Anunnaki where they are still said to reside today in a network of complex underground tunnels. But they are not believed to be from earth originally. There's another one where the reptilians are believed to be the first inheritors of earth and aliens swung by and this story, the grays took up some apes, you know, did a lot of years and years and years of like genetic modification, kind of had a war with the reptilians.
Starting point is 00:52:47 One. And then we were allowed to kind of propagate on earth as the reptilians were driven underground and both stories, though, the reptilians end up getting driven underground via combat. So that's kind of like a linking a linking thread between both versions of their origins, so to speak. You got you got following right now. Alex looks a little confused. Let's make sure, you know, we got you on the same page.
Starting point is 00:53:09 It just just reminded me so much of like Doctor Who right now. I got it. This is like, yes. This is like we're getting like into the depths of like some like Dragon Riders of Pern type, just like, you know, just like a long fantasy series lore. Like this is starting to sound a lot less like a theory and a lot more like like a like, how could this be a theory? Well, if you're if you're the adventurous type, you know, there are stories that the
Starting point is 00:53:32 entrances to their caves and tunnels are all over the deserts. And then you could theory that it's all true. All of this is one theory. Yes. In this 12 alien races theory, the things I'm going through are all supposed to be fact. The the biggest money they had a giant kegger at this hotel and humans showed up and they were like, oh, I'm going over this because when we do go over the Coronado, we talk about Greys, the bugs, reptilians, all these things show up to different people all in the same
Starting point is 00:54:03 night and they all have wildly different experiences. It's nuts. It's like a monster mash of stories. That's what I was saying. What? I was at a hotel and President Clinton was there and I had two Jews, but I was in my room. But I had to meditate. I know this is insane.
Starting point is 00:54:20 And we're not saying the Coronado, the Coronado Coronado experiences fall under the 12 races theory. But the easiest way to get all 12 of these races in your head is just by going through the theory so that you can at least recognize them when we talk about them in terms of the experiences next week. Oh, baby, it's like an old school aliens episode. This is I'm like, I feel like I'm raining in a lot of things here. We got to try and keep focused here. Thank you to butcher box for sponsoring this episode.
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Starting point is 00:56:43 in every box for the life of your membership plus $100 off your first order. That's butcherbox.com slash chill with code bonus 100 to claim this deal. So the reptilians themselves, like I said, if you're adventurous enough, you supposedly, you know, there's entrances to their tunnels and caves all around earth. You might even see like a skeleton hanging on a stick as a warning not to enter these tunnels as like their way of making sure nobody trespasses. But if you do, the stories are you just don't come back. You don't know what happens.
Starting point is 00:57:16 You just disappear into these places and then you're gone. Bye bye. Missing 411. Maybe. Who knows? Anyway, probably not. But maybe something. But maybe something.
Starting point is 00:57:26 All right. Next up are, I don't remember. I think we talked about them in our first episode, but it's been so long. These are the Nomos. N-O-M-M-O-S. Nomos. Jesse looks baffled. These are.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Nomos. Humans. It sounds like one of the things that like someone would call someone in Harry Potter. It's like, don't hang out with the Nomos Potter, you know. It's like the first bit of like your mama joke. Yeah, all right. No mama. These alien species chose to interact with certain tribes on earth
Starting point is 00:57:59 that they just happened to kind of get along with better. The Scandinavians, you know, had the Nordics. The tribe of indigenous Mali in northern Africa had the Nomos, who hailed from the brightest star in our sky, Sirius. The Dogons, which is another species of alien that apparently interacted with the earth. The Dogons. The Dogons. New centuries before modern science caught up that Sirius is actually made up of three
Starting point is 00:58:23 stars and they even knew how long it took for Sirius B to go around Sirius A. Wait, this might be the name of the tribe. Let me just double check. Dogons. Oh, yeah. No, the Dogons were a tribe. This is an actual group of people and these are the people that interacted with the aliens. So according to my research here, I just lost where I had.
Starting point is 00:58:44 There it is. That the Dogons themselves, new centuries before actual modern science, that Sirius was made of three stars and they even knew how long it took for Sirius B to go around Sirius A. People believe that they were millennia away from inventing, obviously they were millennia away from inventing devices powerful enough to see Sirius close up. So it makes, for some wonder if that's why they believe they had visitors from this section of the galaxy, galaxy specifically the Nomos, who informed them of all this stuff, which is why they knew about it.
Starting point is 00:59:13 That all clicked. We settled on that. Sure. Because now we're going to talk about Jesus Christ. Oh, nope. I knew that was what was coming next. Nope. Sonata, also known as Jesus Christ, who was the commander of the Ashtar Galactic Command
Starting point is 00:59:30 Flying Saucer Fleet. Shut up, shut up. Can I finish this please? Is this from Rogue Squadron? I think I read this. No, no, no, this is, this is, this is our history. This is very important to who we are as a human species. So Jesus's real name is Sonanda.
Starting point is 00:59:43 He is the commander of the Ashtar Galactic Command Flying Saucer Fleet, known as the Airborne Division of the Brotherhood of Light. That is what his Galactic Fleet is known as. In addition, a person by the name of Lorraine Altieri had revealed, has revealed the names of and channeled information from some of the other prominent beings who, she says, travel with Commander Sonanda, Pallas Athena, Ashtar and Vrillain on the saucers of the Ashtar Galactic Command Flying Saucer Fleet.
Starting point is 01:00:12 The people who fly in that fleet are Alef Nero, who's the main commander, Aaron Alage James, sub commander of one of the wings of the fleet. Aaron James? Alage James. Aaron Alage James, who's the sub commander of this fleet. James? One of the wings of the fleet. James, J-A-M-E-S.
Starting point is 01:00:34 The earth name James. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a person. He's somebody that visited earth and kind of looks human. He's working with a human from earth in this wing. And the human's name is Miss Megan Sebastian, who's visiting earth to raise the consciousness of humanity and uplift the vibrations of planet Gaia and Agartha,
Starting point is 01:00:56 also known as Megha or Meg from Alcorn, contributing to the stability and peace over the planet Olm and the princess slash prayer maiden of the planet Anova. You get all that. This is very important. Megan is a very important person. She's right now here raising the vibrations of our system. Understood?
Starting point is 01:01:17 Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. This might not matter in the Coronota episode, but it might not. It's just, we're so deep into this, we're going through the rest of it. It might not. Yeah, might not matter. The other person flying around with them is a Corten,
Starting point is 01:01:30 who's a captain of the Flying Saucer, the fleet communications officer in charge of maintaining subspace communications for the fleet. His name is Michael Tecumseh Martin. There's Esola, a captain of the Flying Saucer, Starship number 77. Merku of the planet Alcorn, sub commander of one of the wings of the fleet.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Soltec, captain of the geophysics science survey flying saucer known as Phoenix. Voltra, the space psychologist who monitors the vibratory level of humanity. Kla La, master of force dynamics. Haton, who monitors events on earth for the galactic hall of records at the galactic core. And the lady master Athena,
Starting point is 01:02:12 the twin flame celestial wife of Maha Chohan. Altairi teacher that the lady master Athena often personally accompanies commander Sonata on board his command flying saucer. This is the movie Eternals. Again, soft disclosure. That's all it is. It's just soft disclosure as the Eternals.
Starting point is 01:02:32 So that is all people who are known and kind of fall in line with the no most people who've come, you know, visited and there's a whole fleet kind of watching over the planet with all these people. And the reason we know all of these names is because Lorena theory channeled all that information via a higher vibrational being and gifted us this information on earth
Starting point is 01:02:52 so that we may start to align ourselves with those who are beyond us in technology and psychic evolution. I cannot, and I mean this in the nicest way possible, believe we wasted any of our life on that. The fact that I'll never get those minutes back. No, this is information that has now gained your brain. I'll never get those minutes back.
Starting point is 01:03:12 And now I know that Spaceman James admiral of the second fleet of the Acadians or whatever eff it. I hate it so much. I hate it so much. I've never hated anything as much. No, you guys, we just have to, this isn't the first time I'm gonna let you know. We just have to, this is on the side of your apology.
Starting point is 01:03:29 The Greenstone is a more viable story than that. Listen, we are going in the deep, the deep, deep, deep theory world right now. That is a person who needs genuine help and has been allowed to speak about aliens when they need someone to actually talk to. Like really to, like medication, something. That is nonsense.
Starting point is 01:03:53 I'm so upset. I'm so, I, oh my God. I don't know that, just, you know, I got to cover my own ass at this point. I don't believe in this theory. Jacques Valet doesn't believe in this theory, but it's just a fun. If I knew it was this easy to just convince people,
Starting point is 01:04:04 I'd be like, yes, well, I communicated with Zorgobloff, the 12th commander of the 13th legion of the space. Dude, that's a fake name, not like Kla-La. Kla-La and Zorgobloff are best friends. What do you mean? Oh man. Zorgobloff. My head hurts.
Starting point is 01:04:18 This is like, I had the counterbalance last week, man. I needed to go the opposite direction. I ain't to rebuild my faith in the mysterious. It just feels so much like the sword of Shinara. Like it's just, it's just, it's literally just like a book. Like there's no, yes, like it's like, I'm starting to like track like character growth. Like what's going on?
Starting point is 01:04:38 Like what's going on? Well, you know character growth next week, just we'll be using this list of aliens as a frame of reference when it comes to those other aliens. Genuine question, genuine question for Sonata is Jesus. Sonata, yeah, commander Sonata. How do you feel about the, of the astragalactic command flying fleet,
Starting point is 01:04:57 the airborne division of the brotherhood of light? Right. So does that interfere with any sort of like first contact scenarios or anything where it's like, is there any prime directive where you've now created 2000 years of religion? Well, I mean, is that upsetting to you? Or why do you feel about that space commander?
Starting point is 01:05:13 You're going to have to talk to the space commander specifically about that. I'm reaching out. I'm setting out sonic vibrations. No, that's going to attract the other one. That one's going to attract the nice ones. Space commander. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:23 We just got to track the nice ones. Well, okay. In this, in this, this theory, there is a giant galactic civilization that's just giant galactic government. And we are supposed to not be being fucked with, but there are aliens that either are not part of the galactic federation or not.
Starting point is 01:05:39 No, just like, just a part of the, you're correct. And like a part of their law system is not to fuck with other species that, you know, they have no, they have no control or power over. Like they, we are supposed to be left alone until we're ready. We're just, if we blow ourselves up,
Starting point is 01:05:54 then so be it. We blow ourselves up. We're just, you are, there is, according to this government system, a prime directive life belief, but that the grays don't obey it and a few others don't obey it. Like it's just something that is ignored.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Right. But the tall whites do for sure. They're perfect. They don't do anything wrong. Yeah, they definitely do. They're perfect. There's nothing wrong with them. Well, that's the thing is like,
Starting point is 01:06:13 why are the Nordics coming anyway? Well, the theory there is that while most of the Nordics do obey that law, there are some of those that think that the danger is too great, that they just, somebody needs to get there and pass along the actual message
Starting point is 01:06:25 so that humanity can kind of wake up and steer away from the way the grays are kind of taking us. Because they don't want to go after the grays because it'll start a huge galactic war. And that'll mean deaths of billions and billions and billions of lives. And they don't want that either.
Starting point is 01:06:39 So they're trying to play the political game instead of the war game of like feeding us information to help us wake up, while the grays and reptilians are kind of breaking the galactic agreement. You know, there's a lot going on out there. You're doing a great job. They've been really killing it
Starting point is 01:06:51 the last few thousand years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Waking up humanity. They're doing great. Yeah, the people that the Nordics tend to choose are just not the most trustworthy people. Isn't that so funny how that always works? It's a weird judgment problem.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Weird judgment problem. Those tell why it's a rascals. Okay, last, last but not least, on this list of the 12 alien races are none other than the blue. Avians. Yeah, the blue meanies. The blue avians, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:19 like dead ass, like dead ass, the bird from Breath of the Wild. There. Well, they're also known as the space alliance and have been known to be. That is a war hammer race. And don't even fuck with me. The space alliance.
Starting point is 01:07:35 They are there. They are supposedly have been visiting since the ancient Egypt times and have been said to be involved with the construction of some of ancient Egyptian architecture, not all of it, just some of it. And they are to be,
Starting point is 01:07:47 they look like eight foot tall, blue, humanoid bird creatures. They tend to speak telepathically and tend to make introductions through dreams using a form of sign language. They may even use light through physical touch to communicate as well. But we don't really know.
Starting point is 01:08:03 They will typically make physical contact after they have been invited to appear in the physical reality. I invite you to appear. I invite you blue, any blue avian, even the asshole blue avian, I invite you to appear. Come on down.
Starting point is 01:08:20 Come out to the coast. We'll have a good time. Now they get they, they only will come into the physical reality via invitation. And when they arrive, they tend to arrive in giant blue spheres of light as a form of transportation
Starting point is 01:08:33 and can teleport at will to our planet. Unlike the various other different alien species, these do not abduct humans in any way and do not seem to have any intention or invasion. They simply want to have an open conversation with people acting as guides to human ascension and spiritual evolution. So they're kind of like...
Starting point is 01:08:51 Thought you were going to say an open relationship. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're kind of like, you know, they're they're the the another kind of like space hippies. But to me, they are more neutral than anything else. They're just more interested in conversation than giving us a positive message and trying to steer us in a general direction.
Starting point is 01:09:08 We're like a curiosity to them in a lot of ways. Now, you might be asking yourselves, I didn't hear anything about fricking mantises and bugs. Well, that's because the mantises and bugs fall under Nomos as the Nomos are like multiple they're all kinds of different types of aliens that form. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, that's that.
Starting point is 01:09:25 That's that's all that matters. But that, boys, is the rerundown of something we haven't covered in almost five years. One that is hopefully a little bit more detailed and involved in the last time we talked about this, the 12 alien species that are, I guess you would call them most well known to 12.
Starting point is 01:09:43 That was 12, baby. That was 12. You just forgot. You just forgot some of them because they were minor characters in the plot. And they're less important. Alpha draconians were really, really quick. Alpha draconians, the Pleiadians were really fast.
Starting point is 01:09:57 You know, they're basic stuff. God. And if you decide to look into some of these species outside of the context of the 12, each one of these has a vastly different origin or history. If you look at them as individuals outside of the context of this really fantastical space government multi-war political world
Starting point is 01:10:15 that this has put them in. They still, a lot of these exist outside of this, especially the Greys and the Reptilians. But we will not be worrying about the Galactic, whatever, in the next episode. The only thing I need you listeners to remember are just the species themselves. And what their general MO is,
Starting point is 01:10:33 as we'll be looking at that in detail in the actual Coronado experience next week here on Chiluminati. And that's where we'll wrap this episode up, gentlemen. There we go. Thank you so much. Yeah, we're done. We're already over an hour.
Starting point is 01:10:45 That went, that took longer than I was expecting. I was, I was ready, man. I was ready to move into the. Episode one, part two. Let's do it. I'm ready. Let's do it. We'll be back next week with some more aliens.
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