Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 179 - The November Halloween Special

Episode Date: November 19, 2022

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Starting point is 00:01:00 Getty of LA. Whoa! Jesse and Alex. Yeah, alright. Stop! My mom will shoot! Yeah! Hey!
Starting point is 00:01:09 You knew it! I know! I heard this movie until today. Well, there's probably a reason for that. I can't imagine it's good. 1992, baby. It's like if I told you that there was a bulldog that existed with the legs of a panther. Like, you'd have to go see it.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I mean, is it one of the... I gotta go see this. Like, you should at least see it once. It was during that time period where it was like, alright, we're gonna pair up Dane DeVito and all Schwarzenegger and like, oh yeah, let's get an ape and a man or like a dog and a guy. Yeah, it was like low key Freak Show resurgence, but we were like too polite to say it was Freak Show.
Starting point is 00:01:44 So I was like, yo, what about like a guy with muscles and an old ass lady? Let's go! Yeah! What is the plot? Can you give me the plot synopsis real quick? Stop and mom will shoot? Yeah. From what I remember, I believe Sylvester Sloan was a cop and his mom was like, oh, it was
Starting point is 00:02:00 that kind of thing, but also the mom was a badass secretly, that kind of vibe. Gotcha. She was like, if you hurt my son, I'll kick your bottom. I believe that was the show. She comes to live with him and she like gets mixed up in his life in like an impossible way that would get her killed in real life in like five seconds. Sure. I got it.
Starting point is 00:02:21 And the sweatband on her head and the AR in her hand certainly. Stop! My mom will shoot. Yeah. It speaks to what the movie might be like and the actress from the Golden Girls. It's one of the Golden Girls. Yeah. The old Golden Girl.
Starting point is 00:02:32 The old Golden Girl. The old Golden Girl. I seem to recall that at the time people enjoyed the comedy stylings. I don't know. I think she's great. She probably still holds up. I bet you it still holds up. Golden Girls?
Starting point is 00:02:43 Golden Girls is like one of the best TV shows that's ever been done. I'm talking about this film. Oh, yeah. No, this movie's not going to be one. They're not going to like throw this one on and be like, every year we should watch this. Is this a movie we should watch on Rotten Popcorn that you can get at Patreon? No.
Starting point is 00:02:59 What defines a movie we should watch on Rotten Popcorn? That's a great point. That's like whatever. Yeah. Is it just whatever? Yeah. It's whatever I feel like for when in front of your face is honestly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Which we need to, we need to do that soon. We got to schedule this month's watch boys. We got to, we got to do Step Monster. Let's just watch this stuff. We planned on doing it last month. We got to do Step Monster this month. It's an hour and a half movie. It won't take long and a violin saves the day is all I remember as a child.
Starting point is 00:03:23 What? And remember that scene scared me. I was a young boy and I remember being very horrified. We're just like reliving his like life like some sort of like trauma like I'm scaring his child. Yeah. Well, what else did I put in front? That's like the first movie that I watched as a kid that I've put in front of you.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Come on now. The rest of our movies I wanted to see. The more things that we watch, like the more psychic powers you gain in the present from like unlocking. Yeah. That's exactly how it works. You don't know it, but I'm opening my third eye with each film like slowly cracking it. And just like he's opening his third eye, maybe you should open your wallets and head
Starting point is 00:04:00 over to patreon.com slash Chilminati pod. The only website that there is and get some stuff that you want to have. And it gives us the money to make the show. That's how it goes. That's what you should do. Go have it. And the movies that we're talking about there on there, you're going to like it. That's a website.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Is that the Alex Guarantee? That's an Alex Guarantee, please. Trauma product. And if you're a patron of the chosen tier, t-shirts codes went out today. So the brand new t-shirt that launched on Chilminati that'll be running until the end of the year. You mean everyone on Patreon got it for free just now? Everyone in the chosen tier got it for free.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah. The chosen. That's who I meant. That's the only people I'm ever talking about. That's why they're chosen. I try not to. I try to keep that subtle, you know, to keep the facade going, but it's not that subtle when they're called the chosen tier.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Well, fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah. The new t-shirts dropped. Go to Yeti.com slash Chilminati. It's the air hypnosis magic eight ball t-shirt. It's available for about two months this time around. Please go.
Starting point is 00:05:09 It's fucking incredible. It's like we had a like a TV show on in the nineties and this is like a throwback shirt from like Hot Topic for it. Yeah. Like a Nickelodeon Invader Zim kind of style of show. It's phenomenal. So please go get that and check it out while you still can. Beyond that, I don't think there's anything else we need to chill.
Starting point is 00:05:26 So I just want to say, hey, guys, this is a belated episode. We had a very busy Halloween. We were traveling for, I was traveling for the live show and then we got back. We were in the midst of doing Dahmer and then there were some scheduling issues. We finished Dahmer last week. So we all owe you our yearly Halloween special on this ripe day of I think for you guys, it's November 18th. I don't know who that was.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Thank you. That was you. You set the mood and I'm feeling spooky scary now. I that was no mood was set there. Maybe Dean can add some echo into the background. It's because of your Patreon support that Dean can edit and Dean's trapped here now listening to us live. Just add silence.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Just like crickets. Like sharp. Today, we've got a bajillion stories since the last week. The last time we did reader stories was July. So it has been since July since we've done listener stories. It's Halloween time. I know it always feels like way sooner than that. And there were a ton on the subreddit, including a dream updates on a couple of old stories
Starting point is 00:06:32 and a bunch of new stories that stretch from out of body to ghost sightings and other things. That's how you know you got a good podcast is when there's now lore just from the fucking fan stories. Yeah, exactly. And for all of you who are like, how fan reading stories, they're not real, dude. If you listen to Atlantis with any actual interest, I'm going to spoil it. That's not real either. So let's just go in and imagine that these are real.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Whoa, you the believer? I know. I know. I try. I'm going to go one step further and suggest there may even be a few other episodes that aren't entirely based in truth. It's true. It's very.
Starting point is 00:07:10 I mean, Greenstone is not one of them. That's just. Yeah. We're any of those stone based? I think those are historically accurate. I don't know what you guys, you guys, you guys have so little faith, but it's crazy because one day when it all pays off, you guys are going to not only hand me the key to the city, but the key to your hearts.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I mean. Com slash. Be there. Be square. No, but anybody who doesn't know our editor, Dean, he lives in England. Imagine one day this is just a long plot and Dean shows up with the Greenstone and the sword, and he's just there to finish the episode and end the podcast. He's definitely a lot.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I need. I need you to know, Alex, that I bought a book on audible to listen to while driving around. Okay. You should have been listening to the podcast. Illuminati pod. Yeah. Well, I'm on it.
Starting point is 00:07:53 So I live it. But when it's called one prophecy fails and it is a very famous old book, I got the like old, old version. There's two versions of the audio book, the new ones garbage. It literally is about a group of like, you know, extreme cultist types that are told the end of the world is coming and then it doesn't happen. And then what happens after that? And it turns out spoilers for cults, um, they get more and more adamant it will happen even
Starting point is 00:08:23 though they're told repeatedly and those dates never occur. And all I'm saying is the lesson I've learned from listening to this book is that Alex, you've created a cult of the, of the Greenstone waiting for the Greenstone and you're like, it's true. When it happens, when they pay off occurs and we're over here like, yeah, yes, yeah. You're a monster. You're listening the right way when it comes to cults because cults that set definite dates, even if they keep assigning definite dates, eventually that will wear away at support.
Starting point is 00:08:49 The most successful cults are the ones that leave the end of the world vague and it can be whenever and that's exactly what Alex has done. Not only with the Greenstone. He's a monster. Redstone. He's a monster. He created a redstone out of the blue just so we would have an enemy. It's like you created a devil.
Starting point is 00:09:05 If I create, if I created it out of the blue, how come I have three books about it sitting on my bookshelf? Show us the books. Show us the books. Show us the books. I love them in person. Where's the proof? I'll see the books.
Starting point is 00:09:17 I'll show you the books. Hold on. Man's getting, he's getting up. He's leaving right now. He is left. He is going to a bookshelf. He is looking through books. He's pooling.
Starting point is 00:09:26 All right. I think he threw some books behind the bookshelf. He has three books it looks like. He's looking them over. He put one back. Nope. He grabbed a random third one. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:09:36 All right. Here we go. It looks like chaos, but perhaps. Yes. Go. I can't wait. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Let's see these books. That's the green stone. It's called The Green Stone. It's the book I saw when I was there. And then. The Chronicles of Meonia. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:54 All right. I don't know what that could mean. That could be anything. That's just a title. The Seven Swords. That's fantasy book. That's a fantasy book. That's not real.
Starting point is 00:10:02 One book titled The Green Stone and two books that are like Brandon Sanderson or something. Fire. That's a sequel. That's the sequel to the one you just showed us. What does it say? Graham Phillips, authors of The Green Stone. I hate this. I hate this whole.
Starting point is 00:10:19 You can't. There is no. There is not a thing as an historical piece of anything that has. A sword with lightning bolts on it. It doesn't. Until now. Oh, damn it. I didn't know those were novels were involved too.
Starting point is 00:10:40 It just looks like knock off like Shinara books like you would see. Have you ever heard of the Diamond in the Ruff? Yes. This is pretty rough. That's from Aladdin. Yeah. You are correct. Imagine the next episode features you.
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Starting point is 00:11:30 We can overcome any challenge. Like when we left our interior lights on and our battery died. Like when we left our interior lights and it what? Good thing Geico's got emergency roadside service. It's available 24 seven on the Geico app. Good thing Geico has emergency roadside. Now we feel very relaxed. I feel a bit tuckered out actually.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Am I still supposed to be repeating after you? No, it's a manifest car insurance made easy. Go to Geico.com. Happy belated Halloween special, everybody. We got some of your stories here. Alex, after he's done taking a smoking from his Gandalf pipe, he's going to be. I'm going to assign the very first story for you, Alex. You know, you're going to you're going to warm us up.
Starting point is 00:12:11 And the next one is Jesse's blowing out a smoke ring. That's a giant ship. Yes, the ship went through the ring and now the sails have gone up. And those sails are going to bed. People on that ship. Yeah, these they're doing a little shanty. They're like, is that where the music is coming from? Wow, amazing.
Starting point is 00:12:27 The captain is the bean boy. He's just sat there doing licensed music from the 1960s film to 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea by Disney doesn't make sense. Is it good? I've never seen that movie. Is it worth seeing? It's good. You know, we should do it on Rotten Popcorn.
Starting point is 00:12:41 It's a perfect Rotten Popcorn movie, whatever it is. All right, all right, I'd be down. It is, though. It's great movie. This one's called Out of Body Vision. It's by Bleak Victory 316, which is all I could ever possibly look forward to regarding the Green Stone. Firstly, I totally consent to this being read on the pod.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I'm not entirely sure what this was, whether you can call it a vision, sleep paralysis, or a dream. But when I was only four years old, I had what I can only explain as a conscious awakening. Hell, I felt that when I took my first mushroom dose. How could you explain anything like that at four years? Yeah, I don't remember vague. We'll get there.
Starting point is 00:13:15 We'll get there. But I wonder if they mean it's like the first time they became like, you know, they have memories. I'm going to say no. I'm going to say this is different. I don't think this is like they became aware of. Four is very young. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:26 You know what, though, I could talk when I was four. I remember vague memories from before this time. But any time I remember them, they always play out with everything being gray and a constant reminder that I was not in control of my body at that time as if I was viewing someone else's memories. Sometime when I was four years old, I'd apparently went to sleep on my couch
Starting point is 00:13:44 in my old living room. And the first memory I have, which I can feel I can call my own is this vision of many different flashing images, some rapid and some slowed, including people I hadn't met yet, places I hadn't been yet, all of which are clear to me now,
Starting point is 00:14:00 and biblical images, including the famous painting of Jesus on the cross, the latter of which I simply chalk up to my grandparents, taking me to church often. After the images subsided, it was as if my vision came from clouds. As white, gray, cloudy things in my vision separated, went to the sides of my vision before leaving entirely.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And what I saw when they separated was none other than my living room shown from the top corner near the TV. Specifically, if you're looking at the TV, it would be top left of it. With the Today Show on TV, my mom sitting in a chair next to me having finished folding towels
Starting point is 00:14:34 and me asleep on the couch stiff as a board. That sentence right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was the feathers stiff as a board? No, it has a pinchonian beauty to it. Anyway, my vision gets closer and closer to my head, slow at first, but gradually speeding up. By the time it's close enough
Starting point is 00:14:51 that I feel I could have reached out and touched my forehead, I snap awake, eyes as open as I could make them and breathing heavy like I had held my breath. My mom looks over at me and in a calm voice simply says, you okay? You look like you've seen a ghost. I told her I was okay and simply went along with the day,
Starting point is 00:15:10 not sure how to put it into words. What is it for you? When you go about your day at four years old, what are you doing? When you... What were you considering? I went about my day as a four year old. What, to go throw food?
Starting point is 00:15:21 Poking my finger into my butt and mushing up some clay. Yeah. That's what I was doing. Fascinating way to praise it. It's just funny. Like what are you deliberating even when you're four years old? Right, well, yeah, like when the next... Maybe, but you know what?
Starting point is 00:15:32 Ray Bradbury, when my friend met Ray Bradbury in a bookshop in San Pedro, California back in the day. Oldest bookshop in Los Angeles. Ray Bradbury just creepily leaned over to him and whispered into his ear that he remembered being born. So... Ray, well, okay, yeah, that's very straight.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I think he was told me that story before and it's very weird. Anyway, shout outs to Andrew, wherever you are. I haven't told him in the 18 years since either, but it has stuck with me ever since and in listening to this podcast, it has reminded me of it. You woke it.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I'm still not sure what to make of it so hopefully if you cover it on the pod, you can shed some light on it. Thanks for reading. P.S., I'm adding this for Mathis' sake because it's crazy, but something I believed a bit as a child. My dad named me after his best friend, Pat,
Starting point is 00:16:18 who died in a car accident and maybe I am the reincarnation of that man in some way. I've always had a crack in the middle of my forehead. You can feel with your finger after all. So maybe that's how Pat got in. Okay, so I don't... First of all, why is that added for me? Why is that for me?
Starting point is 00:16:36 Do I know this, Pat? I don't, well... You just love a freaky story. That's true, I do love a good freaky story. You love when it goes from nine to 11. That's true, I do. Is he implying that his body, his four-year-old body was soulless until this moment
Starting point is 00:16:52 when his soul inhabited his body for the first time? I think he's saying that at four, he had this moment of awakening saying that perhaps there was more than just what he knew to be reality, is what he's saying. And that potentially opens him up to seeing previous lives or previous points of time, that kind of thing. Do you think his mom fish-bowled him at like four, accidentally?
Starting point is 00:17:15 I think that... Like a bubble boy? Yeah, like a bubble boy. I would... I mean, everyone's different. But I would think that really what this is, is like every other time I think of the past when I was very, very young,
Starting point is 00:17:29 it's when he talks about flashes and seeing it. To me, that seems like shards of memories that may or may not coexist together. And they can be blended together. And you, things that you're told you did, suddenly become a memory of something, even if you don't remember it. If your parents told you enough,
Starting point is 00:17:49 then it's a reality, that kind of thing. I don't know. Yeah, yeah. I would... I have no clue. It's a fascinating story, either way. I've always been fascinated with out-of-body experiences in general, I remember for a long time in high school,
Starting point is 00:18:01 I've tried to do it, and I could never do it. There's a story by Borges that's like... I forget what it's called. Maybe it's called the Aleph or something like that. I might be getting my wires crossed on that. But it's like a fixed point under a random staircase in some house where is the sum hole of... You can kind of get the entire knowledge of the universe
Starting point is 00:18:24 if you align with it in just the right way and notice it and catch it. And maybe something like that happened. Maybe you just had a moment of pure oneness where you radiated through the universe like a baby four-year-old tuning fork. You weren't being broken down as an equation. Your equation was being written.
Starting point is 00:18:46 It's just funny because it's like things for my own future that I've realized were part of this vision as I've gotten older and Jesus on the cross. It sounds like a mix between mushrooms, a cave from Willy Wonka and like, you know, I don't know, just like some fucked up shit, but I don't know what could cause that. Like a psychedelic experience as a four-year-old,
Starting point is 00:19:06 maybe you had some DMT in your system. Fascinating. That's true. I don't know. Well, I would love to know if in a follow-up, what going about your day as a four-year-old meant. I'm very curious what you had planned for the rest of your day.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Jesse, this next one's for you because you read the original story that this one is based on. Okay. You'll remember as you... Seeing horns update by the Jamaicanese nerd. Hey guys, saw that you read my post about the horns. This is the person who could see horns on people
Starting point is 00:19:36 because of the scenes. The horn vibes. Right, right, right. And one more clarification on things. So here I am. Sorry, it took so long. Master's degree in animation kind of eats up my time. Awesome, by the way.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Yeah, it's a fucking six. Congratulations. Also, don't feel bad about my screen name. I'm Jamaican and Japanese. I thought it'd be nice combination of words. I love it. Anyway. Here are a few things about the horns
Starting point is 00:19:59 that I didn't make clear enough, especially now that I had an extended conversation with my great grandma, who for simplicity, we will call Nana from now on, about him before she passed. Firstly, the horns aren't exactly negative. More so, they're meant to be seen as sort of like Atlas holding the sky.
Starting point is 00:20:17 A burden on the body and mind that's spiritually represented by a set of horns. So no, Mathis wouldn't have big ones just because he bargained with Satan for power. The random sex stuff, however, is a different story. Right, right. Random sex stuff. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:20:32 You would have horns because you're a pervert. Right, yeah. What, is it perversion? If I'm horny for aliens, we have yet to see proof it exists. Yes, yes. Yeah. All right, well. 100%.
Starting point is 00:20:43 All right, well, I'm not. You're like, I'm attracted to nothing. I'm attracted to a concept that's beyond even my own knowledge at this time. So imagine if we find out it is real and it is so beyond my own knowledge, even my expectations, my high expectations are blown away.
Starting point is 00:20:57 What if it's just like a can of creamed corn, chemically, physically, in every way except it has the mind of like mega minds inside? For the sake of just saying, at least I went through with it, I'd have to go once, but then I'd be done. See how big his horns are, folks? Massive horns.
Starting point is 00:21:12 My Mathis horns are right here. I don't have to work too hard for him to show you. Also, by the way, I can see them over video, though it's faint, but not pictures for some reason. I think it needs to be a physical presence of the person that has to be seen, and representations like pictures don't really have a soul behind them if that makes sense. Which if I may be like, hang, but movies are just
Starting point is 00:21:36 many images played rapidly next to each other. So I don't understand why. Yeah, it's very, very confusing. You can see faint, said faint. Maybe the demons have like a high, they prefer a high frame rate kind of thing. Yeah, like maybe they just need it. Okay, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And a single shot, people pose. So maybe they're pretending to be who they are. Rather than on film, you can catch glimpses of their reality. You're that guy who gets hired early in the cult to make my bullshit sound believe you. Yeah, I'm the guy who's gonna start asking questions, and be like, hang on, hang on. Yeah, maybe there's a green stone in all of us.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Maybe, maybe. It's been here the entire time. All right, secondly, they aren't all represented by Ram's horns, rather Ram is the more typical of the look. Some have deer horns, or antlers, for those who want to be anal about terminology, or a rhino horn. What do you think we have?
Starting point is 00:22:30 You, you have. Like each individually, what do we think we have? You just have two boners. You have like a rhino horn, but it's just dicks. Two ivory boners. Alex has the same type of horns as like a pan figure. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You have little pan horns.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Mr. Tumnus? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Me, giant elk, like stag, like huge moose horn, moose. It's just like massive moose antlers. All right, yeah, I wonder. With like a, like a layer of snow. Each go watch a YouTube video with all of us in it
Starting point is 00:23:06 and let me let us know how massive I need to know. Do I have bigger horns than math? That's all I care about. Thank your horns are never going to be bigger than mine, baby. I need to follow up. We're going to follow up. I don't know about bigger, but they're definitely different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Touche. I didn't get a chance to ask my Nana what each meant before passing or I did and simply forgot because it was a three hour conversation at that point. But I do know that there are at least four types of them. Lastly, there is the most important piece of information that I only want Alex to read out loud. Oh, all right, that's for you, Alex.
Starting point is 00:23:46 The horns of sin and weight weigh heavy on us all, but the thing that weighs heavier is all the money in your pocket when you haven't subscribed to patreon.com slash Tulum & Adi Pod. God damn it. Where you can unload that heavy burden on those who could use it to continue to bring quality entertainment and information about loads of different paranormal topics
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Starting point is 00:24:22 I didn't. It's the long game. I mean, if you want to say I did in the way that, you know, the tribes worship the God on the Mount, sure. Then yeah, I did it. As if, as I did every brand deal ever made, Jesse, as I've done every brand deal ever made. It is known.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Oh, great one. It is known. So I guess with this story done, the only request I have is, I want to know what our horns look like. Yeah. I want you to see videos of us You can't say you can see our horns
Starting point is 00:24:49 that not tell us what our horns look like. We need that follow up. I want to know what we even if you just have a sort of like, half-hearted vibe from us, I would love to know what you think our horn is. I would like it if we could. Hold on. Can we all pose really quickly?
Starting point is 00:25:05 And then we would like it if you would draw the horns that you see on us and post that photo. Just like screen cap. Matthew, screen cap. She can't see it through photos. She said this. It is in the story. I'm saying that they haven't said nothing yet
Starting point is 00:25:21 about, because they said when I see you, so I'm saying based on what you've seen of us on the image, draw the stuff. Oh, I see what you're saying. All right. I'll take us a screenshot here. All right. Dean's going to be in this picture too, everybody.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Don't worry. You can tell me what Dean's horns look like. Here we go. Done. I can't wait. All right. Save. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Horn. Horny image. I want to know. I want to know what my horns look like. I need an email to send it to just tell me what you need this and post it, post it on Reddit. Say, what do our horns look like? In America, it's estimated that 4% of people in prison
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Starting point is 00:27:35 Ghost encounters during travels by hard luck Finnegan. I like that name a lot. This is genuinely my first interaction with Reddit. So my apologies if I misstep somewhere. And you got the name hard luck Finnegan on your first interaction? Amazing. That's yeah, well, that's actually incredible.
Starting point is 00:27:49 That's Nat 20 right there. This is genuine. So I've been a huge fan of each of the fellows for quite some time, and especially the amazing combo that is Chiluminani. Damn right, we are amazing. I liked it from the get go, but the deal was sealed when I was driving on a densely forested rural
Starting point is 00:28:03 highway at night listening to the episode feature or listening stories about the skin walkers. Oh, that was one where like the deer like stood up awkwardly and like the guy who was on a motorcycle. Yeah, it was fucking scary. That really resonated with me. So I finally decided to share my stories in hopes they'll return the favor in some way.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I'd be delighted and honored if any of them were on the podcast. Well, you can be both delighted and honored, sir. The first story takes place in an old luxury hotel in British Columbia. I'm not sure if that's OK to throw the name on here. So I'll leave that out for now. I was about six years old and my family
Starting point is 00:28:33 decided to travel the area for a summer vacation. This hotel was hosting a lavish brunch event in one of the opulent ballrooms, and my mother was quite keen to go. So we all dressed as best we could in the middle of a trip and made our way to the event. I remember there being a lot of very fancy options available that I, six years old from rural Montana,
Starting point is 00:28:50 had never actually heard of. But hey, they had fancy bacon and eggs. Honestly, that's all you really need in a breakfast. That's my vibe at breakfast even to this day as a 34-year-old man. Doesn't even need to be fancy. Just like, slap it on there. I'm eating it.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Exactly. Yeah. Anyway, at some point during the meal, nature called and I needed the bathroom. I asked to be excused and ventured off in this huge venue alone to take care of business. No big surprise, I quickly got lost. I made my way to a short hallway with stairs leading up
Starting point is 00:29:15 parallel to the hall. I vividly remember the bright red carpet with white trim on the floor and leading up the stairs. The walls were dark wood panels from the floor to about three feet up, then glossy white painted to the ceiling. The lights were brass sconces with milky white glass. There was only one door at the end of the hall,
Starting point is 00:29:32 and unfortunately, it was not the restroom. For being in, for being the middle of summer and with a large public event occurring not far away, there were a few things off about this hallway. It was remarkably cold and there was no sound from the crowd. Add these unsettling factors to the increasingly urgent matter at hand and you've got a kid ready to panic. Fortunately, down the stairs came some form of rescue.
Starting point is 00:29:53 A gorgeous lady in white came halfway down the stairs, stopped and locked eyes with me. I remember noticing that she had green eyes, same as mine, and she was wearing something akin to a bridal gown. Without a word from either of us, she simply gestured back down the hall and to the right, leading me to the restroom. I took off, took care of business and returned to our table.
Starting point is 00:30:11 Keeping an eye out for the helpful lady to thank her, I never did see her again, but the event stuck with me, especially after recounting the details with my mother much later when she told me, oh yeah, that was when you told me the pretty lady with no feet showed me where to go. Rosalind Lutess. Yeah, I don't know that reference.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Please inform me. Oh, Mathis. It's from Bioshock old timey Soda Fountain. Oh, it's just been a long time. I've played Bioshock. What's it called? Bioshock Infinite. Yeah, I played it.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Okay, it's just been a long time. It's a hard time to remember that. Also, just to point out, classic lady in white that has no feet kind of ghost sighting, this is like one of the most common types of ghosts to come across for some reason, is just like the lady in white. Classic weird thing for a kid to say, right?
Starting point is 00:30:57 Not too much really points to it being specifically a ghost story from that, but my own curiosity brings more to the table. I've since revisited the hotel and asked staff about some of the details. So quickly wrap this one up. They don't run multiple events at once, so not a bride for a wedding
Starting point is 00:31:12 while the brunch was scheduled. The hallways do not have air conditioning, air conditioning unless unexplained cold. And other guests have reported similar interactions over the years. I'm sure there is a more reasonable explanation, but I like the idea of a friendly ghost lady guiding lost kids to the toilet.
Starting point is 00:31:30 You know, I like that too. I don't like that idea. You don't? OK, if you were like, if you were a little kid and you were in a hotel and you were like, put mom, what if I get lost on my way to the bathroom? And you say, don't worry, here's the deal.
Starting point is 00:31:44 If you get lost, a ghostly bride with no feet will show you your way. OK, no, that would that would prime me to be scared. But if this is a random encounter of like having a ghost, I much rather have an encounter with a ghost that is trying to help rather than one that's trying to scare me. All right. OK, in that context, sure.
Starting point is 00:32:02 All right. Yeah. If anybody told me that if I got lost, a ghost was going to guide me, I would be frightened. There's no question. Yeah. All right. The second story is much shorter. On another trip with just mom, dad and I, about 11 years old, we stayed in a historic hotel in Rapid City, South Dakota.
Starting point is 00:32:16 We arrived quite late and the only restaurant open was a takeout pizza place. We got a simple pepperoni pizza and headed back to the hotel to have dinner, watch a bit of TV and go to bed. Sometime in the middle of the night, I woke to the sound of the pizza box shuffling around. I figured dad got a bit peckish
Starting point is 00:32:30 and snacked on some leftovers. In the morning, we found the pizza box standing on end on the desk, not the table we left it on. The curtains had been fully opened and a cushion was off of the chair we left it on. Upon checking out, mom asked the gentleman at the desk if people often reported spooky things in the hotel. He brought up a notebook and said,
Starting point is 00:32:48 only in two particular rooms. We don't advertise it because we want to keep the accounts as genuine as possible. Would you like to tell your story? We did and found that many similar interactions occurred in the same room according to the notebook. That's the way to do a haunted room. That if you are genuinely believe your room
Starting point is 00:33:03 on the hotel might be haunted, take note, people. You don't tell that she actually let them come to you. Yeah, the story. I love that. Um, and the final story I'll share for now happened closer to home here in Montana. A popular tourist attraction here is the old state prison and dear law stuff going on in Montana. Yeah, apparently.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Some TV shows have featured it and they even have offer overnight ghost hunts, which is remarkably fun. But this occurrence didn't happen during the hunt. My buddy and I decided to make the trip over for a random daytime visit just for something to do on a weekend in October a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:33:36 He had never been and I had told him some of the interesting stories about its long history. I'm an avid history fan. So Jesse, if you read this, thank you dearly for history's mysteries. Thank you. Anyway, we got there around noon and started our self-guided tour.
Starting point is 00:33:50 I had borrowed a very nice DSLR camera from a photographer friend to take some pictures. We went through most of the prison, which is quite eerie when you're the only one is there without much happening, but still enjoying the day. When we went into one of the solitary confinement wings, we noted it was significantly colder than the air temperature outside.
Starting point is 00:34:07 As we went deeper in, my friend asked me to take his picture in one of the cells. We had been taking pictures all day in all different lighting conditions with no issues. But this specific time, the camera made a bunch of strange noises and took way too long to process the image. When it did finally display the image on the screen,
Starting point is 00:34:22 it was just black with a white dot. I thought I must have changed the exposure setting or worse broke the camera. Checked all the settings, they were right where they should be. Took a picture of the hallway and it came out fine. Tried the cell picture again when my friend was still in the cell, strange noises again.
Starting point is 00:34:37 This time the image displayed a strange blurred double exposure with two instances of my friend blurred together, but the cell was fairly clear. We skedaddled pretty quick from that wing and finished our tour, taking more pictures with no further issues. We came back for the ghost hunt years later with our own gear and had some interesting happenings,
Starting point is 00:34:54 but nothing as odd as that creepy camera issue. To those, if you want the story for the show, I'll happily email you the picture. Well, yeah, I would love to have the picture if you wanna throw it our way with your friend's permission. This obviously you don't wanna make it public, but for our private eyes, hell yes. I hope anyone who reads these finds them interesting.
Starting point is 00:35:12 I know there are probably some reasonable explanations out there, but hey, I put some effort into figuring them out and ultimately I believe, I want to believe. I have a few other stories and some for my grandpa as well, but these were the more interesting ones. From what I've seen, this seems like a great community and I'm eager to get involved, thanks for reading. Well, welcome to Reddit.
Starting point is 00:35:28 For your first ever Reddit post, that was phenomenal. Great job. Yeah, that was like Maiden of Blackwater. What's that called? What? What are those games called? Maiden of Blackwater. The game where you take pictures of the ghosts.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Do you mean Fatal Frame? Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, yeah, yeah. I know what you're talking about now. Anyway, great stories. What? I honestly, my favorite out of that one is just the hotel one,
Starting point is 00:35:51 because the air of believability with the hotel being like, no, we don't make it public, but we do collect stories. Would you like to share it? So that's really neat. Some of the more interesting ghost things are typically simple things like that with things standing on end or being gently moved.
Starting point is 00:36:06 So I love it. Hopefully when we go on our ghost hunt, which by the way, I meant to tell you boys before we started recording, I shot an email off to the place in Texas that we're talking about. That's like four hours from me where we can stay the night and do ghost hunting.
Starting point is 00:36:19 They specifically rented out the ghost hunt. Is that the old whorehouse? I think so. The brothel, yes, yes, yes. Oh my God, this is my dream. I shot an email off. I really hope we get an opportunity. Can you imagine if we pick up some sex EVPs, like for real?
Starting point is 00:36:32 Dude, oh yeah. Imagine if it's all in Jesse's room. I am absolutely going to be like, leave me alone in a room. I'm gonna sit there and be like, hello, are you, I want- Just sitting there in like, just a banana hammock waiting. I want to like, just hear a ghost be like,
Starting point is 00:36:49 hey, good looking. Like I want, I want a spectral spirit from beyond the grave to just be like, looking good. And I'll be like, thank you, what? I love that. I'll let you know when we hear back. I hope we get to, I hope that's where we get to go. That'll be amazing.
Starting point is 00:37:06 It'll be a nice, and it's a nice easy trip for all of us. So all right, the next story is all yours, Alex. All right, this one's called My Doppelganger Story by The Wizard Beard. This story is fairly mundane compared to a lot of the stuff I've heard on the podcast and read here, but it's okay to read on the show or share if anyone finds it interesting.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Well, guess what? The Wizard Beard, you're about to be put on blast. Last Saturday evening, I headed down to my local grocery store for some soda and snacks for a game night with friends. I go to the store probably two or three times a week and always park in the same spot unless it's taken, which is fairly far from the entrance.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I do this because it's next to a cart return so cars can't block my view from that direction when I leave, and it's typically less crowded with pedestrians, also because I'm a creature of habit. When I pulled into the parking lot, I saw my spot was taken by a car that was identical to mine. I drove a four-door red 2014 Ford Focus sedan. The only difference I could see was the license plate frame
Starting point is 00:38:04 and it was pretty dirty and needed to wash. It was about 8 p.m. and there were no other cars parked near that spot. I didn't think much of it beyond, huh, that's odd, and parked a few spots away. I got out of my car and started walking to the store and I noticed a man walking away from the store who was looking down at his phone
Starting point is 00:38:20 and carrying a grocery bag. I glanced at him and then did a double take and stopped. He looked exactly like me. I'm a fairly distinct, if not unique looking guy. I'm about six feet tall, significantly overweight, wear large glasses, and have a very long, bushy brown beard with some gray starting to creep into it.
Starting point is 00:38:38 We all, yeah, we all join you on that club. See, we all are. Mm-hmm. At the time, I was wearing black shoes, grayish green cargo shorts, a Fallout New Vegas T-shirt, and a plain red hat. Good video game taste, my friend. The man walking towards me was matched.
Starting point is 00:38:52 My height, build, beard, and glasses exactly as near as I could tell. He was wearing black shoes, gray cargo shorts, and a red hat. He was not wearing a Fallout New Vegas T-shirt, but he was wearing a shirt with a power armor helmet from the Fallout game series. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:39:10 He was looking at his phone as he walked past, not noticing me. I was kind of dumbstruck and didn't say anything, but I just stared at him, rudely thinking back as he got into the other red Ford Focus and drove off, probably to a game night with his friends. While my mind started going through the possibilities of time loops, bleeding alternate realities,
Starting point is 00:39:27 hallucinations, and other mathis-leaning theories. I take that as a compliment. Thank you. Fair enough. I know that it was probably just another handsome beard aficionado with a common car and good taste in video game apparel. Still had me reeling for an hour or two, though.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I hope I see that guy again mostly because I wanna know if he'll be as weirded out as I was, or if reality will collapse when we meet. Delightful little story. That's a great story, and I love it too, because it's one of those things where if you look at the grand picture of Earth, eight billion people now, as of yesterday, I think.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Yeah, right on the dot, by the way, yeah. How many people cross each other's path infinite times every day? Eventually, somebody is bound to bump into somebody that probably looks very similar to them, who drives a car that's exactly the same as theirs with minor differences, and even to the attire. Like, I wanna believe doppelganger as well,
Starting point is 00:40:21 but at the same time, you could just be the coincidence that happened that day amongst eight billion other people. Like, crazy coincidences that blow your mind don't happen that much, but everybody has 15 stories. You know what I mean? There's always something that's just, whoa, this person. Like, how many times you ran into somebody that you know from somewhere that's,
Starting point is 00:40:47 and you're like not anywhere near where you know that person. Another country, or like, yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's fascinating, but also, we've had some doppelganger stories on the show before, and everyone is just like, the one that sticks with me a lot is the one from The Tree, where the fat down hit his head.
Starting point is 00:41:04 That one's a fucking weird one. I hope I never run into my doppelganger if they're out there, because. I would love to see that. I'm all over the internet. I got doppelgangers. You, yeah. Fat, nerdy, red hair guys are everywhere.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Did you guys see that Cyberpunk 2077? Yeah, have you played Cyberpunk 2077? My mom, I swear to God, years ago, was like, you need to start changing how you dress, because everyone wears the same stuff for you. She's like, everywhere you go, you look like everyone else. And I was like, yeah, we're pretty homogenized
Starting point is 00:41:29 over here in the gaming world. We love our hoodies and t-shirts that say like. It kinda comes with a job. If you don't do that, it's usually long hair and a beard too. Like, it's one of three varying options for white gamer men. We don't take care of ourselves. That's the vibe.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Yeah, yeah, there you go. Jesse, the next one is in your hands. The next one, the haunted village by little flower Therese? Therese, Therese, like Therese? I just want to make sure, because I didn't know everything's lower case. Yeah, yeah. And it could have been little flower Therese.
Starting point is 00:42:06 I don't know. What about little flower there, special edition? See, exactly. I like that one way better. Special edition, some. Special edition, the flower there. Special edition. I've been making my way through your podcast.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I'm on 38. Oh, man. Man, you are. So you are in like the primitive era still of like what this podcast would become. It's only downhill from there. And I've heard that too. Peak the Tommy Patera.
Starting point is 00:42:36 So far, we've asked for listener stories. I know that it was a long time ago, so I'm not sure if you still take them. We definitely do, but if you still do, here's one for me that you have permission to use if you wish. She'll catch up to this in a couple more years. In about two years, she'll be here.
Starting point is 00:42:55 It's kind of short. So maybe just for people who are interested in read. Anyways, I love the podcast. I'm not sure if I believe, but the banter is amazing. Thank you. I'm an Alex listener. I have ever heard one of the security guards from her last show.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Yeah. From every show. From every show. Man, that was a really good show. Like, thank you, security guards. When I was a teenager, I interned at Old Sturbridge Village, a kind of living history museum in Massachusetts. Got out in Massachusetts.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I miss you, baby. To give some background, most, if not all of the houses were moved to the site of the museum village. They weren't built there originally. Docents, I guess that's the right. Docents do not pretend to be from the time period. However, we did dress in period clothing and demonstrate period activities.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I went to many of these as a child in New England, where you go. Selenia Williamsburg. Yeah, you walk in, you're watching them turn the butter, and they're talking to you like they're from them. They live there and all this stuff. Yeah. So the, because I'm dumb, a docent is what exactly?
Starting point is 00:43:59 Like a museum. No, like a museum helper. Yeah, they're all right. So they're not the actors pretending to be the people from the time period. They're dressed up to like facilitate all that stuff. Yeah, one time I smoked weed with a Ben Franklin in Boston. That sounds right.
Starting point is 00:44:17 That sounds right. Ben Franklin would have smoked weed with you. That sounds like the most Ben Franklin you've ever heard. That was kind of like, that was kind of like my in. That was like my dude. Can you imagine smoking weed with Ben Franklin while helping him write his almanac to troll the dude's dead dad for like?
Starting point is 00:44:32 I don't have to. Oh man, that's so good. Westworld, East Coastworld. Finding your perfect home was hard, but thanks to Burrow, furnishing it has never been easier. Burrow's easy to assemble modular sofas and sectionals are made from premium, durable materials, including stain and scratch resistant fabrics.
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Starting point is 00:45:56 I suck out every year. We were in one of the lower rooms of the town house at the end of the green. Underneath the house had a modern basement and the door to that basement was behind us and to the side as we did the demonstrations. If you went down to the basement stairs, the basement was not rectangle.
Starting point is 00:46:16 If you're standing on the stairs to the left is a turn that you cannot see around until you get to the bottom of the stairs and would have to turn around and look in that direction. That's a hell stairs. That's demons live there. Demons live in these stairs. That's just like every staircase from before like 1890.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah, that's where we go to hide. Let's just make them scary and dangerous for no fucking reason. How about that? How about they just go up to your knees? Waiting for idiots to come downstairs and kill them. Yeah, no thanks. I don't only know what was over there other than storage.
Starting point is 00:46:48 The basement didn't really have much in it though. I'm 90% sure that it was only accessible, it was the only accessible door to the basement. It was probably two or three in the afternoon and the light was on, not your typical spooky basement. To the right, as you're coming down the stairs, the basement extended a little ways and there was a set of sinks clearly visible from the stairs.
Starting point is 00:47:11 My boss gave me the butter churn and told me to go into the basement and wash it in the sink. Your boss was Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Land. I haven't seen that movie, but I know the reference. I'm washing it when I see my boss who was in period garb come down the stairs and go around the far corner on the other side of the stairs.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I can't remember if there was a mirror above the sink or if hearing her coming down the stairs made me look over my shoulder. I finished washing the butter churn and bringing it back upstairs where my boss was still in the demonstration table talking to guests. They walk away and I ask her why she came into the basement.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Surprise because I had not seen or heard her go back up the stairs. She said that no one had gone to the basement. She was still standing basically in front of the door in this small room, so she would have noticed. All of a sudden, I was aggressively distraught. I don't know if it was teenage nonsense or hormones or what,
Starting point is 00:48:13 but I absolutely lost my cool and started bawling at work and needed to go outside. I had never done something like that before, including the time I actually locked myself in a pitch black basement at a different house on site and my candle blew out. Literally like a trailer from a horror movie. Next.
Starting point is 00:48:31 I don't think my boss was very happy with me, but she made sure I got to my parents at the end of my shift. God bless. After that, I don't think I was ever stationed in that house again, but I talked to some of the other staff about it. More than one person said they had paranormal experiences
Starting point is 00:48:47 with that house. Several said they saw a lady going out the upper window when the house was either closed for the night or before it was open in the morning. Oh, looking out, not going out. I was about to say going out the window. One told me there was a painting of the woman who had lived there in the house
Starting point is 00:49:06 and convinced me to go with them to see it. They wanted to know if the lady I had looked at or seen, if it had looked like her. I did get up the courage to go, but unfortunately I had not seen the woman on the stairs face. We all wore bonnets and she had been looking away for me. I just saw her dress and that woman was descending the stairs
Starting point is 00:49:28 and walked out of sight around the corner. I didn't look closely because I assumed it was my boss. Another staff member told me a story about how a tax collector, maybe a guy who committed tax fraud, possibly he was both. Wow. This was over 10 years ago, so bear with me.
Starting point is 00:49:45 He hung himself in the attic when he was found out and that you could see the worn place on the beam where the rope had swung. He eventually convinced me to go with him to look at it and there was a worn piece on the beam, but it was also a 150 year old house so it could have totally been fucking with me. I tried to Google it,
Starting point is 00:50:08 but since then OSV has started doing a Halloween program and it's hard to find anything other than that. I did find a comment on Facebook about the townhouse where a guy named Greg Hill said he saw a ghost in that house and when he worked there, but I think he must have worked there at different times. Shut up, Greg Hill. Someone also told me that the Freeman farmhouse
Starting point is 00:50:33 was haunted by the ghost of a woman who had lived there and I think they said died of tuberculosis in the front bedroom. Even if that's just a guess, that's a good guess for the time period. Yeah, sounds right. No idea if that's true, but there's my story looking forward
Starting point is 00:50:46 to continuing to listen to the podcast. Thanks. See you in 150 episodes. Yeah, I hope you enjoyed it. What is, I'm now gonna know, what is episode 38? She's 38 episodes in, what is our 38th episode? Great question. I'm gonna figure that out right this time,
Starting point is 00:51:02 but I never saw any ghosts when I went to these places as a kid, though I really, really wish I had. But if you work there, you might be more prone. True, true. Oh, she's just starting, that's the Kitchy's Keyline Pie episode, it's episode 38.
Starting point is 00:51:18 That's a good, that's a good- It really is. Oh, that's a classic. That's a very classic of the podcast. Okay, we've got one last story and as always, I have to have a dream for Jesse to interpret. So this I'll read to you, Jesse.
Starting point is 00:51:29 Sit back, enjoy it. It's this quick dream, simply titled The Bicycle Dream by Trainer Cat Lady. Hit me, hit me. This is your future wife right here. I love the name of the dream. I had a dream last night where I was apparently coming home from work
Starting point is 00:51:40 and the dream started as I approached one of the main intersections on my route home. Only instead of being in a car, I was on a bicycle. I remember it being very dark, even wet, like it had just snowed or rained as I approached the intersection. And as the light turned green,
Starting point is 00:51:55 I tried to push on the pedals, but they wouldn't go. So stuck where they, that I almost pushed myself over the handlebars. Of course, this being a dream, the only course of action I could think of was to dismount and carry the bike over my head and cross the intersection.
Starting point is 00:52:13 I remember feeling proud that I carried it over my head. I think there's an army man that has that. Probably, yeah, yeah. But as I started walking down the street on the other side of the intersection, I didn't realize it at the time, but had become late afternoon, early evening. It was quite bright out.
Starting point is 00:52:29 I also noticed that there were very few cars on this usually very busy road. And as I looked back to where I came from, I noticed there were a lot of abandoned bicycles littered over the road in random spots. But there was an occasional car that drove past as if nothing was wrong. The dream ended when I actually saw someone walking
Starting point is 00:52:46 toward me on the sidewalk and I commented something like, huh, that's weird. Look how many bikes there are in the road. The guy just looked at me weird and I woke up. I haven't ridden a bike in probably 25 years and my job is way too far away to ride a bike. So what gives? Why bicycles and why were they all over the road?
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yo, I got this. This is so, this is actually, there's a crazy version of this. And then there's like the really simple version. I remembered all you doubters out there. Jesse has a degree in dream. I have no such degree. Dream therapy and crystal adventures.
Starting point is 00:53:18 He's 100% qualified. I do have a degree in crystal adventures. That's true. So right away you said there was an intersection and an intersection is obviously about choice, right? That makes perfect sense. That's usually what it's synonymous with. A bicycle is usually synonymous with balance.
Starting point is 00:53:38 And you have to be balanced to be on that bicycle. So you have this sort of like balance, meeting choice, right? And then everything locks up. And it feels like this is one of those dreams that's you working shit out, right? Where you're like trying to live your balance. You hit a choice in your life. You lock up and your reaction to the lockup wasn't like,
Starting point is 00:54:02 well, I guess I'm going to abandon my bike like everyone else here. All the other abandoned bikes in the area, which is a symbol of indecision and reticence to make that choice at the intersection. That's exactly how I feel whenever I look at a fucking big ass pile of bikes. You picked your bike up over your head.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Walk that shit through the intersection. Like nothing's going to stop me. Even if the bike won't move, I'm going to get through this. And then on the other side, you're like, damn, that was a lot of bikes back there. And you had that sort of revelation to yourself. And then the person in your dream, which is probably some form of your subconscious was like,
Starting point is 00:54:39 yeah, all right. Like you work through it and you got, it wasn't a big deal to you. You didn't even stop to think about it. You picked up the bike and kept moving. And I think that makes like a lot of sense. I would say there's another version of this. A lot of the time people think bikes are synonymous with love
Starting point is 00:54:56 and relationships because of two wheels. I don't know if I buy that, but hey, it could be a love dream. You could be like in a relationship and then you're carrying that relationship, you know, past a point of indecision. I have no clue. It's like a Bob Dylan song. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Well. So yeah, yeah, but it makes sense to me. I hope that brings clarity and PC to you. Yeah. Put your name again, trainer cat lady. Maybe Jesse is the love that you're destined to find. That you're carrying, you know what? I need to be in a relationship where I get carried
Starting point is 00:55:28 the entire time. This is all just fate. Bring the two of your lives together, crossing the weave and the tapestry of time. And next live show, I hope you see that. I've often said, the problem is, is I've said, if I was going to be in your dreams, you would know. Like I'm going to like.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Pennywise the plan. Yeah, I'm going to like Pennywise my way into your dreams, but also a lot of my projector, but also, you know, like a little, a little less deadly, a little less surgery, more horn. I'm imagining eat my little brother when I'm too young to know if it's real. Yeah. Twitter, Jesse's horny.
Starting point is 00:56:01 So maybe dream Jesse will be horny. Whoa. Twitter, Jesse is not horny at all. Do you agree with that, Alex? I do remember you tweeting about the red heads that you wanted to show up at the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, look, it didn't happen. It's very clear red heads, but nothing to do with me.
Starting point is 00:56:20 It's fine. What are those? What are those things sticking out of your head, dude? I don't know. I can't see them. Oh, never mind. Never mind. You, I'm not, I just must have been a trick of the luck. Can't see them. Happy patreon.com slash Chaluminati Pod.
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Starting point is 00:57:03 Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Anyway, me and my wife were sitting outside indulging on our porch one night, enjoying ourselves. I needed to go to the bathroom, so I stepped back inside and after a few moments,
Starting point is 00:57:16 I hear my wife go, holy shit, get out here. So I quickly dash back outside. She's looking up at the sky in the fall. I look up too, and there's a perfect line of dozen lights traveling across the sky. So I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:57:35 I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:58:07 I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to get out of here. I'm going in the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom. I'm going to go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Hey, what's wrong? What's wrong? I just got passed over for that big promotion. They told me I needed a graduate degree. Then you should do what I did and check out the University of Northern Colorado. Who? The University of Northern Colorado. Their graduate school and extended campus offer over 100 flexible, career-focused graduate
Starting point is 00:58:43 programs online and in person. Really? The University of Northern Colorado? Really? The Graduate School and Extended Campus at the University of Northern Colorado.

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