Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 182 - The Darkest Disney Urban Legends

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Starting point is 00:21:00 or a sight, or a voice, and suddenly you remember a thing. And Disney is just being like, remember that last time you liked churros? Yeah, they're right over here, baby. Come get a churro. Other than not knowing that it's there, right? I think most people just don't realize that that's happening all the time at Disneyland.

Starting point is 00:21:17 But like, other than that, it's no different than the way that they make a building look like it's a hundred years old or that they make a futuristic thing, look like a futuristic thing. It's just another element of that artifice, which is pretty cool. My best advice, don't go to Disney while high.

Starting point is 00:21:36 Until you've gone a couple of times. I'm like, no, I'll let you know. One time in Cars Land, I thought the sky was fake. And it was like, the mountains are fake and the buildings are fake. And I'm just like, is the sky fake, bro? Like, it got me. You were on it, it got me.

Starting point is 00:21:54 That was just weaned that to you? It got me, dude. Yeah, I don't know. I was just like, I thought, cause everything else was fake and I recognized it as fake. I looked up and the sky looked fake to me. And I was like, is that fake too?

Starting point is 00:22:05 It's fucked up. And I was like, no. And I'm like, it looks like- Cars Land, Cars Land is fucked up because it has like a fake natural formation at like the actual horizon, like a drawing. It's crazy. When you, like way in the distance, yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:16 Let's, here's an episode idea. The three of us do mushrooms together and then talk about what we see on the episode done. Honestly, that'd be like a five episode 500 or something very like- Episode two, you mean episode two, Andre? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You want me out there in a few weeks

Starting point is 00:22:30 and be fucking- The last episode of Chiluminati, promise. We go out into Joshua Tree and never come back. Oh my God. The last episode of Chiluminati Pod is only available on a flash drive, buried in an alternate dimension where the Beatles never broke up.

Starting point is 00:22:46 All right, next, Urban Legend. Another clever way that Imagineers improve your experience involves lying to you directly. For example, have you ever walked all the way across the park for Space Mountain and then immediately decided to do something else when you see that it is gonna take 75 minutes to go on the ride?

Starting point is 00:23:09 And then later when you finally do go on, the wait is like way shorter than the 75 minutes that it says. So actually there's a lot more going on there than you think and there's more than one reason that it's happened. Can I take a guess? Can I take a guess before you go?

Starting point is 00:23:21 Sure. My guess is they may change wait times when the line does start to get big to avoid that disperse the crowd. And then when the line does get to a more manageable level back to quote unquote truth. Yeah, well actually the truth is almost never there. So check this out.

Starting point is 00:23:37 Sure, fair. So literally we're talking around the basic obvious thing which is that when you're gonna walk into a line and you see that it says 75 minutes and then you get in the line and you did not wait 75 minutes before you get on the ride, that's just good. That just feels good.

Starting point is 00:23:53 Yeah, everybody is like, oh, that wasn't bad at all. Oh, that made it more fun maybe. It creates a feeling of like pleasant surprise that is manufactured, right? But it's actually a little deeper than that too and Mathis was kind of touching on it. Here's a quote from the website Touring Plans which aggregates and estimates accurate theme park wait times

Starting point is 00:24:14 based on like user data, kind of how like Waze does for driving. So here's a quote from them. They need to build a buffer. If something goes wrong in ride operation, it's better to aim the wait time high. They need to be careful about guest satisfaction. Humans are much more likely to be happy

Starting point is 00:24:30 if they wait for less than you tell them they're going to. Compared to if you make them wait longer than you told them, than if you told them. If I wait 20 minutes more than what you posted, I'm going to be really upset. If I wait 20 minutes less than what you posted, I might actually be pretty pleased that I got luckier have more time than I thought.

Starting point is 00:24:52 They need to control crowds. High wait times can discourage guests from entering a line and send them somewhere else instead. That makes sense. All that makes sense. And that's, I never would have thought something like that. You know what I mean? Like just like, yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:07 Someone could, two people could wait 40 minutes, but if somebody was like I said expecting 16, somebody was expecting 15, totally different. There is something kind of creepy about the idea that they're just like taking something that should be like straightforward and like manipulating you with it a little bit. Certainly.

Starting point is 00:25:22 For your own happiness for sure, but it's still weird. But they actually, so this website actually crunched these numbers and came up with some like charts that show how like the actual waits go versus the posted wait times. So I'm going to just give you the link if you want to like scroll down and look at that.

Starting point is 00:25:38 And you can actually see the spread on it like over time and how it looks and stuff. And it's pretty consistent. Like it's pretty weird. Oh yeah. That's like dead consistent, like big Thunder Mountain Railroad is very consistent.

Starting point is 00:25:52 Yeah, consistent through the whole thing pretty much. It's like a little bit longer. Yeah. Yeah. Weird. Yeah, look at Haunted Mansion. Like you can also tell what the popular, like it's a small world has a way less weight

Starting point is 00:26:05 than Haunted Mansion, for example. Yeah, it makes sense. Cause it's a small world, it fucking sucks. I mean, that's a horror, that's a horror ride. Yeah. You will walk out scarred for life. I have to ride it every time I go because it was my grandmother's favorite ride.

Starting point is 00:26:18 So it's like a for you. Small world was your grandma's favorite ride? Yeah. Her favorite ride. It's her absolute favorite ride. I don't get it. You know, she died when I was eight. I'll never get it.

Starting point is 00:26:27 So, you know, but I don't, I don't. Why? Maybe, maybe it's better when you're like stoned. That stares. There's a sun. No, I'm sorry to God. There's a sun that like hypnotizes you as you go through. I only know the Florida one though.

Starting point is 00:26:39 Is the California one the same? The one I think is even older. It's literally the California one is literally something they made in New York City for the World's Fair. And then they took it apart and built again in Disneyland. And it is like, the reason I like it is because it's like the most 60s thing that there is. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:26:59 You are a man out of time. Yeah. It is beautiful. It is like a beautiful thing. Is it extremely annoying that this song plays over and over and over again? And if you get stuck in there, you can let's do it for 45 minutes straight.

Starting point is 00:27:08 Of course. Of course. That would drive me literally insane. But you know what? Like I read like, if you can, if you can read Gravity's Rainbow, you can fucking go on. It's a small book.

Starting point is 00:27:17 What the fuck is Gravity's Rainbow? It's a really complicated book. Let's put it that way. By a really complicated man. All right. You really tried. Next one. We're going to be talking about

Starting point is 00:27:32 the question of security in the park and something called Disney Jail. This is the thing that people talk about all the time. It's been parodied and lampooned and styled on all over the place. Everywhere from itchy and scratchy land, episode of The Simpsons, to creepypastas on Reddit.

Starting point is 00:27:50 But what the fuck is Disney Jail? So to get us started on what people maybe think Disney Jail is, here's a quote from Mathis Tereed right now from Reddit user Epicurus23, which I found that I thought was pretty, a great little story. I have to drop it in Twitter.

Starting point is 00:28:05 I apologize. In college, I was talking with some friends who frequent Disney in California. One of my other friends mentioned how cool it would be to go to Disneyland High on LSD. Not sure if he was serious nor am I endorsing using drugs. They warned him against doing that

Starting point is 00:28:19 and proceeded to tell us a story about how they had friends who did just that. They dropped LSD and went to Disneyland. Unfortunately, they didn't hide it very well, acted all irresponsible. Very irresponsible. They didn't hide it very well, acted all goofy and strange and were caught and detained.

Starting point is 00:28:35 They told me that if Disneyland security catches someone in the park on LSD, they take you into custody and lock you in a special room. The room is completely bare except for a chair and all the walls are bright white and blank except one. They sit you in the chair facing a wall with a giant picture of a frowning Mickey Mouse staring at you.

Starting point is 00:28:54 Then they leave you there for hours. Does anyone know, does anyone who's ever worked at Disneyland know if there's any truth to this? Does Disneyland have a special mental torture room where they put high people in? Being in a room sober with nothing but a giant frowning Mickey Mouse face staring at me would be enough to freak me out.

Starting point is 00:29:11 I can't imagine how bad that would be for someone tripping. And apparently the story was told into this person in 1997. So if it's true, it would have occurred sometime in the 90s or earlier. Yeah, I mean, I have to say, like going to an amusement park for the purpose of being like, well, we're gonna get wacky.

Starting point is 00:29:28 Like, don't do that. I've never heard of going to Disneyland on any hallucinogenic is a good time. I've never heard anybody say, dude, I got higher than I've ever been in my life at Disneyland and I had a great time. I've never heard anyone say that. Don't do that.

Starting point is 00:29:44 Yeah, don't do that. If you are high all the time and you go to Disneyland while you're high, who cares? Don't get uncomfortably high at a place like Disneyland. You're gonna end up spending $400 and you're not gonna do anything. That's what's gonna happen. You're gonna eat like a big ass cookie.

Starting point is 00:29:59 That's like what's gonna happen to you. Cause yeah, everybody's gonna look like a big ass cookie when you go if you go on LSD. So fucking don't go on LSD. Watch a video of somebody on LSD before you go to Disneyland on LSD. But here's the question. Is Disneyland, is Disney Jail a real thing or not?

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Starting point is 00:31:12 Toyota, let's go places. Is Disney Jail a real thing or not? That's the question. The answer is, it sort of is. But it really is more just like a place where they take people who need to be processed or held up for a minute before either just being released back to their group,

Starting point is 00:31:34 maybe with a ban on them for doing something, depending on what they do, or if they really fuck up, they can go to the police station straight from Disney. So it's not really like a jail. But rather than give you some boring old stories about it to read, I figured I'd get some stories from celebrities

Starting point is 00:31:50 who've been to Disney Jail from insidethemagic.net. So here's another one. Here's a story for Jesse to read here from Blake Lively. The Blake Lively. He's married to Pink, right? Or was? Blake Lively is a woman who is married to Ryan Reynolds. Wait, nope, different person, yeah.

Starting point is 00:32:12 I thought this was a country story for some reason. She's from Gossip Girl, I think. I can't remember if that's the answer. I grew up going to Disneyland like twice a week. My mom would take me out of school and take me to Disneyland, but I was banned from Disneyland for a year because I went to Disney prison.

Starting point is 00:32:28 You get a stamp when you leave the park. If you spray hairspray on it, you can transfer them to someone else's hand. So we go downstairs in Disneyland. It's all white rooms. Everyone is, oh, I guess you tried to do that. You tried to like transfer the thing. I don't think you can do that anymore,

Starting point is 00:32:48 but that was a thing like 20 years ago. No, now they take your photo and everything, yeah. So we go downstairs in Disneyland. It's all white rooms. Everyone is dressed in all white. The furniture is all white and they just interrogated us. It was really scary and traumatizing. Yeah, that's what I think.

Starting point is 00:33:06 I think that's the real version of like the frowning Mickey face is just like, they make it a little bit serious seeming so that you don't do it again. But also Tony Stark himself, Disney's golden boy, Robert Downey Jr. got sent to Disney jail when he was young for smoking weed on the Skyway. He said, amazing.

Starting point is 00:33:28 He said, I was brought to a surprisingly friendly processing center, given a stern warning and returned to, if memory serves, one very disappointed group chaperone. You had the head wobble to go along with it and everything. You were really going, you were following the character there. Very impressive. It's the only time I've sailed through an impression

Starting point is 00:33:46 without getting any sort of criticism. So I appreciate it, guys. But yeah, so he told the same story basically, except he was stoned. So he was just like, yeah, I went to this weird ass room and got in there and then my dad was mad at me or whatever. And that's what would really happen if somebody was on drugs in Disney jail

Starting point is 00:34:06 is they would just be like, oh, that was weird. That sucked. Luckily it wasn't like real jail where potentially I'll stay here forever because I smoked weed. But yeah, Disney jail is real. It's really at Disneyland, but like most stuff, it's much more boring and mundane than it seems. No one has to write apology letters to Mickey

Starting point is 00:34:25 while they're there, which is another thing people say. Goofy doesn't walk around dressed in a prison guard outfit like some people say. And there is no giant sigh of frowning next to Mickey face to torture. Imagine that that was real. And you caught caught on LSD or mushrooms and you just had to sit and look at that face.

Starting point is 00:34:43 Absolutely. Just I imagine that you really disappointed me, Memphis. That's my greatest fear. I'm sorry, Nick. I'm sorry. Can I have powers at least? Yeah, I'll never do it again. Can be a power ranger.

Starting point is 00:34:57 But yeah, so that's so that's Disney jail. Next one, speaking of the Skyway, if you don't know what the Skyway is, it's a pretty. I think it was filled in 1994. They like got rid of it and stuff. But it used to be this thing that was like an aerial gondola on wire. Sometimes they have these at like zoos or botanical gardens

Starting point is 00:35:18 or something. I'm sure you've seen something like this where you kind of like get in on one station. It's like a ski lift to nothing. You just go up and then you go straight across like a big aerial space from a high angle. You can like look out and see everything. Then you go back down to another station.

Starting point is 00:35:32 That's the Skyway. They were there when I went in like 2018, 2019, somewhere on there. No, there's still there's no way. No, they've been gone for like 20 years because they literally used to go straight through the middle of Matterhorn Mountain, like open hole through the mountain and they used to go through.

Starting point is 00:35:49 But they they closed that up like in 1994. And I'm fucking way wrong. But if I'm talking about the inside of Matterhorn Mountain. What is one other piece of trivia that you guys know about the inside of Matterhorn Mountain? Do you guys know? I don't know, really. I'm not a Disney guy.

Starting point is 00:36:09 This is one of the most popular pieces of Disney and trivia possible. Is the guy pulling himself in there? No, no, no, no. No, is it that it has the old they have like old crap in there? They used to like old parts from other rides. OK, so you're so you're right. You're getting close.

Starting point is 00:36:26 So so so here's what the deal is. The story that everybody repeats in bits and pieces across the Internet is that. It's a very tall building, Matterhorn. If you think about it as a building, it looks like a mountain, but it was completely built. So it's a building. And in order to build a structure that high in Anaheim,

Starting point is 00:36:43 the story says Anaheim's height restrictions are such that you can't build a building as high as the Matterhorn in Anaheim unless it is a sports arena. So what? What? So what the story says is that because of that, to get around a loophole, they built a basketball court high up in the attic of the Matterhorn mountain to exploit this loophole.

Starting point is 00:37:08 And that's like, you know, wrote in like Disney legend across the world. That's not real. There's no according to Snopes. This is only partially true. Yes, there is an area to shoot hoops up at the top of the Matterhorn. There is a basketball hoop and a backboard,

Starting point is 00:37:25 but it is not even as big as a regulation half court. And it's extremely homemade looking, kind of made piecemeal from old parts. And its existence has nothing to do with height requirements. Those weren't even the thing until the seventies, which was over a decade after the Matterhorn was finished in 1959. And really, no lawyer would have let Disney get away with some type of bullshit like that.

Starting point is 00:37:49 They were like, let's see your sports arena. And they're like, it's a half court basketball court inside of a mountain. They would be like, who can go in there? Literally no one. OK, fuck you. Actually, what happened was if you don't know this about the Matterhorn mountain, you might not even because I think they stopped doing this for a long time.

Starting point is 00:38:05 And maybe they're finally done with it for good. But for a very long time, one of the things that used to happen at Matterhorn Mountain was two human mountain climbers would scale the outside of the real mountain, like the building with mountain climbing gear. And they're dressed in like later hosin and stuff. And they'd like go up there like old, like, you know,

Starting point is 00:38:25 I'm like, climb the Matterhorn mountain. Have you guys ever seen that? No, that sounds I would be. That sounds very unsafe for a while. They had Mickey and Minnie do it with like playing his voice over the speakers and stuff. But originally it was just like how they had the mermaids in the lake and shit, like just like actors

Starting point is 00:38:43 that that was their job was climbing that thing once or twice a day, right? And basically one day, somebody got really bored because up there, a lot of the times, just like when Tinkerbell flies in the fireworks show and stuff, you just end up not being able to do it, but you have to stay on shift in case you can do it because it's like too windy or it's raining or whatever.

Starting point is 00:39:01 So they want to have you there just in case it can happen. But you just have to kind of sit there. So, yeah, so they're up there. They're up there in these in this break room and they just have to wait sometimes. So one time one guy got bored and he went to the fucking Home Depot and he got a fucking half court basketball hoop

Starting point is 00:39:15 and he built it and it's like is up there. And sometimes people can go see it when a ride breaks down. Kelly, I think, saw it one time because she had to walk down off the Matterhorn, which is pretty cool, kind of a rare thing. And there's something I watched, like a thing on Disney Plus recently about the parks and they have like everybody's name

Starting point is 00:39:31 scratched into like a little board up there who's up there or something like that. That's cool. So can they can like employees go up there and like shoot hoops if they wanted to? I believe that it is still a place that people can go. I don't know how you get up there.

Starting point is 00:39:45 I don't know like who's allowed there. I know that it stopped being used as much because eventually they built like a ride building in break room for the Matterhorn. That's like more modern, but it's still there. And it's like a legend. And it's like it's so known that like people talk about it in the same breath as Disneyland pretty much all the time.

Starting point is 00:40:02 And that kind of goes for this next one, too. And that's because the evidence for it is all around you so frequently when you're at the park sometimes that you just sometimes have to ask yourself, after seeing it, you know, you see it, you look in the bushes, you look around, you ask, is Disneyland home to a colony of feral cats? Is there a giant colony of feral cats at Disneyland living there?

Starting point is 00:40:25 I would not be surprised if there was. I'm going to say Disneyland Anaheim. Yes, 100 percent there is. I'm not going to say that that extends to the swamps of Orlando, but I'm going to say this. I found my favorite website of this entire episode today, and it's called DisneylandCats.com. It's a great website.

Starting point is 00:40:43 According to them, cats member sightings, which is what they call the cats who are at Disneyland. Very cute. Very cute. And it is not that like not real of a name. Cats member sightings have been going on since the park, since the park first opened in 1955. Imaginers went into Sleeping Beauty Castle, the centerpiece of Disneyland

Starting point is 00:41:03 to try and figure out what they were going to put inside of it. Eventually, it became like a kind of walkthrough storybook attraction with special effects that were pretty cool. But when they first went in there to see what the hell they were going to do and get a glimpse, there were like dozens of flee infested feral cats living in there already. Like almost immediately when the structure came up, just because I don't know, like I don't even think that Anaheim was that populated at the time,

Starting point is 00:41:29 but somehow they got in there. And here's a quote for Jesse to read from DisneylandCats.com about what happened. It became clear that something needed to be done about the cat. But Disney, Disney Company knew they couldn't exactly eliminate the problem without considerable uproar from the guests. The immediate solution was to adopt all the cats to cast members, ensure them good homes and so free up some viable real estate.

Starting point is 00:41:58 They dealt with the flea problem as quickly as possible to. Meanwhile, being an outdoor thing, park with lands meant to simulate rustic situations. Disneyland had developed a bit of a rodent problem. While the irony was lost on no one in the company, Disneyland had mice running around and we're not talking about Mickey and Minnie. So glad they explained that. Yeah, there were also still plenty of feral cats on the property

Starting point is 00:42:24 who hadn't set up shop in the castle. The cats were smart and realized they found a device that could the cats were smart and realized they found a decent hunting ground on the property that was free of all the typical dangerous stray cats have to face. They were able to emerge at night to a relatively empty park and they could hunt in peace. Yeah, so base. Yeah, that's that.

Starting point is 00:42:48 It's crazy. Yeah. So basically what they did, they figured the cats aren't hurting anybody. They had these mice like running around anyway. So what they did instead of trying to kill a bunch of cats, they just leaned into it. They set up a couple feeding stations around the park to sort of hint at where the cats should sort of settle so that they would be out of the way of like very high traffic areas.

Starting point is 00:43:09 And they captured all the cats, spayed and neutered them and then let them back out into the park as conscripted feline mouse exterminators complete with staff meals and medical insurance for all their diseases. Apparently there are around 200 cats living in the park at any one time. And if you're wondering where some of the feeding stations are, some have been spotted near the Rose Court Garden near the Disneyland Hotel. If you know where that is, the Hungry Bear Restaurant in Critter Country,

Starting point is 00:43:37 which is next to Galaxy's Edge, have you ever been over there? And the Taste Pilots Grill, which is like a big hanger at California Adventure next to Soren. All those places are hot spots for Disney cats. And even in the daytime, sometimes you can catch them there. Please do not touch them or bother them or do anything other than just look at them from afar and enjoy that these other that enjoy the cats members from a distance. How about these cat members are truly making Disney their reality, dude?

Starting point is 00:44:02 Yeah, that is that is it. I mean, being a stray cat, I can't think of a better fucking deal than living in Disneyland. Yeah, safe. That's what I'm saying. That's not bad. That's not a bad time. Food everywhere, I'm sure. If I got fed and medical insurance to just live in Disneyland and kill mice, I would do that. Yeah, exactly. I'll do that job.

Starting point is 00:44:21 That'd be fine. Put me in one of those little fucking cabins in the lake. I'm in there. I'll go. Give me a little fire. On a Huckleberry Finn Island, which we will revisit, by the way, don't even. Your challenge, if you choose to accept it, is this. Let's go. Let's go. Show up on day one.

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Starting point is 00:46:24 zapier.com forward slash resources forward slash podcasts to learn more. Next one, though, Last Green Circle, urban legend of the show today, a little bit like the Denver Airport in that it's simply just something sinister sounding that really just requires a little bit of clarification before you start to realize that it's just like kind of just something inconceivable to the average person. But once upon a time, the story goes, Walt Disney was walking along through Tomorrowland.

Starting point is 00:46:57 You know, he was very known for just getting on foot and walking around the park to experience it from the guest perspective. It's like one of the things he's famous for. And one day he was walking along and his eyes landed on a cowboy who was walking along. He was a cast member cowboy from Frontierland, but he was in Tomorrowland because he had to walk there to get to Frontierland. And it bugged him, it bugged Walt because it broke his immersion a little bit.

Starting point is 00:47:24 And he felt like it would be distracting for guests. And so he decided to do something about it. He drew up plans for a network of secret tunnels that crisscross under Disneyland for getting around and doing secret nefarious things away from the eyes of unsuspecting park guests. That's the story that goes online. And that's why they say that there's tunnels under Disneyland. Uh, the reality, though, is that Disneyland was way too small

Starting point is 00:47:52 and completely closed in around it on all sides. So there's no way that they could do something like that at Disneyland. And while there are some interesting backstage areas of Disneyland, you can see if you're really looking for them every once in a while. When there's like a show happening or something, they'll open some gates when you get off a ride and have you walk through a little bit of backstage to get back to the park sometimes or something like that, right?

Starting point is 00:48:15 But the real deal is that the tunnel system never really got off the ground until 1967, when it became central to the design of the giant double Disneyland Magic Kingdom in Orlando, Florida, which is part of the Walt Disney World Resort, which houses over 390,000 square feet of backstage tunnels, which are big enough for large vehicles to pass through and are mapped out like a fast travel map from fucking World of Warcraft or something. There's like messages on the walls that tell you where to go like like a game.

Starting point is 00:48:55 It's crazy. And the other thing that's absolutely insane about them is that they're not really underground so much as they're like the ground floor. So they're so like the whole Disneyland is a swamp Disney World. They built a floor above it. That's underground tunnels. And then they built the floor above that, that is Disney World that people walk on. So the tunnels are underneath that underneath, but they're not underground.

Starting point is 00:49:21 So they really did get off the ground if you're following my pun. But yeah, it's it's it's it's stunning to think about. It's like it's like Dr. Evil. The entrances are all hidden in plain sight all around. You can even visit some pieces of it during official backstage tours that they like curate for this purpose. And you can actually are led in there by cast members. You can actually see it.

Starting point is 00:49:49 But it's also well integrated in the park. You would never even notice it unless you were looking for it. And also, according to Disney Fanatic dot com, these special branding rules do not apply in there. Like mascots are allowed to take their heads off in the tunnels. Face characters can like cuss and slouch and like just like, you know, like get there. So you mean the coolest place in the park? Yeah, that sounds like to me.

Starting point is 00:50:12 They play non Disney music out of the speakers, too. Like they play like regular music. Are there like little restaurants down there, like a whole mini Disney city? There's there's there's little there's little rest areas and stuff everywhere and places to eat. And if you need a haircut or you need freshening up to get back up to Disney's rigorous hygiene and cleanliness standards, you can go to Kingdom cutters with two K's, a cast member only full service salon,

Starting point is 00:50:37 which is pretty pretty crazy. That's crazy. That's cool, though. And at the center of it in the tunnels, and perhaps the most movie like thing in this little thing is the Command Center, which is literally like the room at Jurassic Park. Like it's like a big room where all the screens are and you can see all the stuff and you can control everything just like that. But for Disney, it's like a real place.

Starting point is 00:51:02 And that's like all operated by the frozen brain of Walt Disney. We'll get to that when the double blacks. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's next episode. For sure. The main point that I'm making with these tunnels is that and the thing that is so crazy about this Disney World. I've never been there. Disney World is big. Yeah, you've never been to Disney World.

Starting point is 00:51:20 I have no I have almost no interest in going, but I do kind of want to see it. Really? Would you go to Epcot Center and get drunk with 100 percent? I mean, go to Disneyland for like our world for, you know, fun reason. I would do that. I would do that in a heartbeat. But I it's not like to me like I'm not like a Disney boy. I don't love to like go be Disney guy and like wear Disney ears and like go. Right. But like, what if we went to Epcot and drink around the world? That sounds great. I'm there. I would go to any of the parks.

Starting point is 00:51:47 I'll go on the fucking avatar. First ever official to Luminati meetup has come to Epcot. They're drinking around the world runs this world. Every for every restaurant, a cryptid or paranormal theory. Each one as we visit and drink. Yeah, a cryptid that math is what I have sex with in each country around the world. So this has got to be at least one has got to be at least one at least. It's like an Animaniac song that like was banned from the airwaves.

Starting point is 00:52:13 But yeah, Disney World is very big. You probably can't comprehend it if you haven't been there. It's like Las Vegas, but it's one place. And people maybe don't realize how much it takes to do something that nice on that scale. And while they'd rather not think about that at all, which is what Disney really tries to do and just help them not think about it at all. The things that like poke through the backstage

Starting point is 00:52:41 and the the resources that are required to do that stuff, it just feels sinister by nature of its scale. It seems like you're like if they can do this, how can they not just have a private military? You know what I mean? Like it's like it's like crazy to think about the resources that these companies have. But that's basically the theme for Green Circle Beginner. Urban Legends is just look how much money Disney has.

Starting point is 00:53:04 And yeah, they do this weird shit that they that people think they do. That this is the reason they were able to buy Marvel Studios. Yeah, but there's no way there's no way that like. A city could have smell smelletizers all over the city. But Disneyland has them everywhere. Like out of curiosity is I mean, we will get to it. But, you know, the the the place where people can live, Disney Street. What the fuck is it?

Starting point is 00:53:30 You know, that Disney we can own a downtown Disney or you can own a house and live in the Disney neighborhood, like the really rich houses. God, it sounds like that fucking weird Disneyland. Starting valet that Disney's Golden Oaks neighborhood. That's it right there. So they have a whole Disney's Golden Oak as homes who live there. It's in Florida, Orange County. Wow, it is a literal neighborhood own run and is Disney.

Starting point is 00:53:59 Every house is themed in some sort of way. I was in this like a I didn't know if we were going to maybe I don't know if they would start a pump and smells in a people's house. This is fucking. It's a great question. I'll drop in the zoom. Yeah, that's interesting to their home page because, you know, Epcot itself was actually originally and you can go watch a fucking defunct land on it or whatever.

Starting point is 00:54:20 But originally Epcot was going to be like a city of tomorrow, like a perfect self contained city that ran and people were going to live there and work there and be there. And that was going to kind of be what Epcot was until Walt died. And they just changed into like a neat sort of like educational world theme park, which I think is a cool idea, too. But it's like very small in scale compared to that. But yeah, Disney's a company that has the capability to do this stuff.

Starting point is 00:54:42 They have a whole neighborhood, Golden Oaks. It's on technically Disney World property. It is on Disney World. So think about that. What? Gold. I'm looking it up. Gold. I like it to you in the zoom chat. Disney, Golden Oaks, luxury custom single family homes, dude. So weird.

Starting point is 00:54:58 It is a bizarre. It's like just real rich people stuff. Yeah, it's all real rich people and really huge houses that live on Disney. You're all it looks like an officer's housing area in a military base. It's really weird. Yeah. And then like the description of the homes are like fantastical. Set at the end of a winding road amid scenic landscapes of native plantings,

Starting point is 00:55:19 the Carrollwood neighborhood offers a private setting in the northernmost enclave of Carrollwood Reserve. Is this in California? No, it's in Orange County, Florida. What? Then why is there there's a gold? Oh, never mind. There's a bunch of golden oak things in California. And it's giving me all California because I assume you live in California.

Starting point is 00:55:38 Yeah, right. Right. But here we are now. We're moving on into the blue square intermediate section of our list. These are less proven and possibly untrue or fictional rumors, but with details based in reality, as we know it, like green circles, slightly more interesting older brother. And who is I said, I said one more link. It's the three available homes starting from six point eight million

Starting point is 00:56:04 to eight point eight million all the way in Canada, all the way to nine point five million, six bedrooms, six bedrooms, six baths, seven and a half bath. All right, I got to get out of there. I'm not going to live there or be there. No, no, never, never, never. It's just fascinating to me. Yeah. So we're blue square. Next one, we're up in the ante a little bit almost immediately

Starting point is 00:56:27 to a legend on the scale of secret societies. If you do some Googling, things that will probably come up are Club 33, which I talked about in the Minnesota after the last Disney episode. It's the elite IRL secret club and lounge spots within Disney parks around the world reserved solely for its roster of the world's most powerful and wealthy people, which, as we know from the Coconut Grove episode, is just not a recipe for, you know, keeping the power out of the hands of the rich.

Starting point is 00:56:57 There's something passively insidious about having a secret society, even if the point of the secret society is not to control the world. It just provides a private space for things to happen with between powerful people, and that's not good. But that's one thing that'll come up if you Google Club 33. The other thing that will come up is the fact that Disney and many others were part of the anti-Semitism heavy motion picture alliance and that he was kind of a, you know, known and documented anti-Semite,

Starting point is 00:57:24 which more than some secret conspiracy is really just part of the countless and damning evidence all around us all the time that racism is still a fully real and harmful problem in the world today. Maybe you're thinking of the same thing I'm thinking of, pervading all aspects of the world around us right in front of our faces. OK, whatever could this guy, whatever could you be talking about? Whatever you're going to be talking about. And you have to look at it.

Starting point is 00:57:48 You have to say, you have to say it's here. It's in front of us all the time, including fundamental parts of our culture, our history, our government, and we will never defeat it and it will never be behind us as long as dumb, shitty people with money can have power and it should not be ignored. However, oh, that is not a conspiracy theory. Totally off topic, though. Man, graduation was a great album, right?

Starting point is 00:58:09 Everybody, it's it's it's a bittersweet album in this context. Oh, what context you're referring to context? But if you persistently Google even further and you click the more results button a few times and really get to the meat of things like Lois Lane, you might start to hear rumblings of something called the S.E.A. Or the Society of Explorers and Adventurers, which is hard baked into a surprising amount of places in the Disney parks and involves a group of wealthy world travelers and interesting business

Starting point is 00:58:44 people who've been marauding across the globe on romantic, globetrotting excursions of the human spirit for over 200 years and are known to be the owners and operators of many different attractions and businesses within the Disney theme park world. Sounds cool. On the one hand, you could call these people the Disneyland Illuminati, but on the other hand, you could call them an ingenious invention of Imagineers featuring the most lively and well developed characters

Starting point is 00:59:11 you can possibly create in a storytelling environment where everyone is gone and the world is frozen in time forever for park guests to explore without anybody there. Either way, this is the secret history of Disneyland, which you can only glean dark soul style from the physical evidence of it in the design of the parks and the records of it that exist online in the history of time that, you know, in places that no longer exist. Like this great article that I found at sfgate.com. Basically, as they explain in the article,

Starting point is 00:59:42 the whole thing started with a restaurant called The Adventurers Club, which used to be located on Pleasure Island at Walt Disney World, but was raised and replaced when they swapped Pleasure Island for Disney Springs in 2008. If you know downtown Disney in Anaheim, Pleasure Island was kind of like that, but it was like edgy and kind of like nasty in a way, not like in a like porny way or something, but just not so worried about kids. It was geared towards adults is what it was.

Starting point is 01:00:10 It was like not a theme park, it was just a place for adults to go spend a shitload of money next to Disney World in Florida. In this restaurant was a sign claiming that Pleasure Island was actually founded by a dude named Pleasure, which is kind of like a theme for the SEA. Maryweather Adam Pleasure was this millionaire sailmaker who loved to quest into the unknown and see new things and discover mysteries. And The Adventurers Club kind of served as a watering hole slash headquarters for the group. I had all kinds of like animatronic things on the walls and stuff

Starting point is 01:00:42 that would happen all the time and it would have secret rooms and like potions to drink and in character storyline stuff would be happening all around you. And the whole deal was that it was New Year's Eve every night. It was like a New Year's Eve party every night. And characters would like hand you things and get you involved in the action. And at the end, if you stayed to watch the countdown at midnight, they'd shoot fireworks off the roof of the restaurant. That's cool. And yeah, apparently people got so into this shit

Starting point is 01:01:08 that they started corresponding with the actors in character. And eventually they started a newsletter for people to subscribe to. And it had this secret greeting that you could say, which I'll drop in the chat for you guys to try out right now. Secret greetings. This is the secret SEA greeting. Congolous. Congolous. Yes. And if you ever pop into Trader Sam's at Disneyland at the Disneyland Hotel, which is a bar that's tiki themed

Starting point is 01:01:33 like the Jungle Cruise or something, you can still allegedly order a Congoloush off its secret menu. And while you're drinking it, you can go on the walls and read some adventures club letters from two members, Samantha Sterling and Fletcher Hodges and Samantha even gets a stocking hung up behind the bar at Christmas. So it's like really they're thinking about this. Have you have you done that before?

Starting point is 01:01:55 Have you ordered a Congoloush? I did not know about this at all until like a couple days ago. Oh, cool. I think it's just really interesting. Like, yeah, if you really quickly, if you want a deep dive, Pleasure Island, just, you know, if you're like, oh, I'm interested to learn more. There's a video. Just Google it. It's called Yes, their world, the rise and fall of Disney's Pleasure Island. And yo, fascinating stuff.

Starting point is 01:02:18 It's like 30 or so minutes and it is super interesting to see everything that happened at Disney's love love adventure. Yeah, love a theme park documentary. And yes, the world is like the OG defunct land. It's like pretty damn good. Yeah. But yeah, that should got leveled in 2008, dropped off for a bit. But in 2011 at this sort of educational museum style thing at Tokyo Disney Sea called Fortress Explorations,

Starting point is 01:02:47 these pop these puzzles popped up. If you solve them, you'd be invited to become a member of the SEA. And then in 2013, they have this much less ghostly mystic manner. Which was, excuse me, opened at the Hong Kong Disneyland version of the haunted mansion. It's called Mystic Manor. So it's like they can't really do ghosts and stuff in China. That's like not really have their culture is not really allowed. So it's kind of just more like a like interesting, mysterious manner.

Starting point is 01:03:15 And in that ride, the storyline has the Explorers Club rather than the Adventurers Club. It's like it's counterpart and it ties directly to the SEA through the owner of the Mystic Manor, Henry Mystic, and even includes a bunch of stuff from the Pleasure Island restaurant in the ride. Oh, that's cool. And on the Disney Cruise Lines, the Oceaneer Lab Kids Club area is a recreation of the 1898 Deep Sea Diving and Research Vessel

Starting point is 01:03:40 owned and operated by SEA member Captain Mary Oceaneer. And there's a couple other places that you can find SEA stuff all over Disney history, too. In 2006, SEA member Harrison High Tower of the High Tower Hotel is the setting for the Twilight Zone Free Tower of Terror Tokyo Disney Sea. Barnabas T. Bullion was added as the owner of the mine. That's the setting for Magic Kingdom's 2013 Big Thunder Railroad revamp. And in 2015, they added the Jungle Navigation Co.

Starting point is 01:04:13 Limited Skipper Canteen to Adventureland in Magic Kingdom. And it was revealed to be owned and operated by none other than Dr. Albert T. Falls from that one waterfall joke from the Jungle Cruise. And now that character is canonized by the Jungle Cruise movie with Emily Blunt and the Rock, and it has a secret SEA meeting room. And you can order a congelouche for dessert. And speaking of SEA members in movies later that same year, when Disney Springs added a hangar style bar based around Indiana Jones's

Starting point is 01:04:46 snake owning pilot friend, Jock Lindsey, they included Samantha Sterling's passport in the decor and heavily implied that Jock himself was a member. Do you remember that guy, Jock? No, he's the guy that when Indy's running out of the jungle right at the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark, he like runs into a plane and he's like, what? And he like pulls a snake out of the plane and he's like, that's my pet snake, Reggie.

Starting point is 01:05:13 And he's like, I hate snakes. That guy. Yeah. That guy is a member of the SEA and in the and then finally, in the new like PC version of the Jungle Cruise that they did, where they like plusted up during the pandemic and like took out all that like weird race of shit, like with the like colonial explorers and the like black servants and shit. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's all out of there.

Starting point is 01:05:37 All the people are now replaced by SEA members, and it seems like the whole plot of the ride now centers around an SEA expedition being waylaid in the jungle and like and wrecked. And like there's an artist called Rosa Soto Dominguez, who you can see her art in the line of the ride. And later in the ride, the monkeys like get into her paint and like fuck up the paint and are messing with her paint as part of the ride. And that is the Spake Secret Society that owns Disney

Starting point is 01:06:08 attractions all over the world, the SEA. Pretty interesting. Amazing. Yeah. And then I got one last blue square, intermediate, urban legend for you today before we close out, just because we're kind of getting on in time here. And I want to want to wrap this up. Yeah, I know. I want to wrap it up. And I want to save an equal number of dope shit for next time.

Starting point is 01:06:30 That's even just much more raunchy and bloody. Than this episode. But along the same lines as the SEA, if you think of Disneyland as a type of IRL open world video game like Westworld, if you kind of think about it like that. Is it possible that there are like secret side quest lines hidden in Disneyland? Like an ARG kind of thing.

Starting point is 01:06:59 Yeah, sort of. Yeah. Mom, I would say it's possible. It reminds me, I just shout out to Jenny Nicholson on YouTube. She's amazing content creator. She did like a four hour breakdown of Everland or like something. Oh, Evermore. Evermore, which was supposed to be that whole park of like LARPing, essentially. The adventurous club, but yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Starting point is 01:07:19 So I would say it is possible. Though, I feel like we would have heard so much more about it if it like people would have been blowing it up if it was true. The side quest thing. Yeah, there are side quests. I feel like it would have become very popular very quickly. Well, let me tell you this. The answer, the short answer is sort of and maybe fully yes.

Starting point is 01:07:39 Oh, OK. All right. I don't know how that works, but I'm going to do it on the one hand. On the one hand, the one that is like a sort of answer is something that you guys probably already know about. It is something called Hidden Mickey's. Yes. And if you love Disneyland, you probably already know about this. But for the uninitiated, here's a great summary from ABC News about Hidden Mickey's from Mathis to read to explain

Starting point is 01:08:03 succinctly what they are to everyone. Hidden Mickey is a partial or complete image of Mickey Mouse that has been hidden by Disney's imagineers and artists in the designs of Disney attractions, hotels, restaurants and other areas. The most common in the most common image is an outline of Mickey's head formed by three circles, one for Mickey's head and two for his ears. The classic hidden Mickey. Yeah, when I was at Disneyland a few years ago, like I said,

Starting point is 01:08:27 we saw a few of them. They were sweeping leaves into the pot into the shape of Mickey Mouse's. Oh, that's very cute. Yeah, it was hilarious. Yeah, it was very cute. Like little Mickey Mouse ears and little Mickey Mouse's everywhere. I also sent you guys a little link to like a photo dump of a couple hidden Mickey's for you guys to look at.

Starting point is 01:08:45 And so you can tell the people about just like how they kind of are. Yeah, it was like a shelf with like paint all over it. And then there's like a green Mickey Mouse head that then has like a paint leaking stroke that goes from the bottom of it. One built into a Tiki Tower. A totem pole. A totem pole. I couldn't remember the name of it. It is I don't know, I'm sorry.

Starting point is 01:09:09 I don't I don't actually see it in this one. I'm trying to look at find it in this one. In the in the great in the in the totem pole. Yeah, the totem pole is it's right under his like arm. Yeah, it's right there. You can. Oh, yeah. OK, I'm done. There it is. Yeah. Yeah, so great is in the shape of one we saw. Yeah, I saw like the great one Dalmatian with one and there's some rocks

Starting point is 01:09:30 that have the shape and looks like Stephen Tyler is wearing a Mickey. And yeah, there's even in cement, there's like cement imprints. Yeah, and in one of the caves for Indiana Jones, it looks like there's one. And even some of these some of the fake Ivy, which I imagine is that that Italian restaurant they have. Yeah, some of the fake ivory is probably ivory. Some of the fake Ivy. See, we both did something wrong. Probably. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:09:59 Yeah. See, some of them are like really hard Lego bit. The Lego one's cool. Yeah. There's like, yeah, there's some easy. Some of them are very difficult to see. Yeah. So if this was a side quest, the reason I say this is a sort of answer. It's a fun diversion for a couple hours, if you want to. Or it's like, you know, a great thing to fantasize about making an Instagram about or whatever. But I feel like it's the equivalent of the like

Starting point is 01:10:23 one of those things called the the Korok seeds. Yeah, yeah. And like, it's just kind of like a non-direction. It's like a directionless sort of background quest. It's not really a side. Imagine find all the hidden Mickey's and you just get a giant golden Mickey mouse shit. Yeah, that's kind of how it works. Yeah, fun, but not motivating, right?

Starting point is 01:10:46 However, a few weeks ago, something crazy popped up in my feed, which is the impetus for this whole episode to check this out. Basically, this guy, Chris Provost, who runs the channel, Provost Park Pass, was exploring Pirates Lair, which is on Tom Sawyer Island, which Jackie, Jesse talked about earlier. So we're going to live. Yeah, yeah, in the middle of the park. The Pirates Lair was added during a 2007 revamp of the island, capitalizing off whatever the third Pirates movie was called.

Starting point is 01:11:16 And without realizing it, he caught a random painting on the wall in his video. I was like, what's that about? And one of his commenters, MagicMartin666, who I am not 100 percent sure is not Mathis mentioned that it looked kind of like the code from the Sherlock Holmes story, the adventure of the dancing man. So I don't know if you're dancing man. I am a I love I love Sherlock Holmes, so coincidentally.

Starting point is 01:11:44 Yeah, great Sherlock Holmes story. One of the only ones with Americans in it. And he solves the mystery. Yeah, so it's it's what Sherlock Holmes. That's his deal. That's almost guaranteed. He solves all the mysteries like Batman in that way. Yeah, I don't know.

Starting point is 01:11:59 You were like, he solves the mystery in that one. Yeah, that was about where he finds the mystery. No, but OK. Basically, the code matched up perfectly. It's these little bone men that you can see and they're like they literally are like different. Different like skeleton shapes meant to be different letters and it decoded to a message.

Starting point is 01:12:24 And I'm going to send it here. And this is going to be for Jesse to read. And he's got to you got to read it like a pirate because it's pirate stuff. Each answer we have in three identical. Oh, that's where it ended. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. I'm sure there's more. It just says that first mate.

Starting point is 01:12:44 He's having a bout of discovery. Well, you can't send the rest. Just the identical letters. Answer be having three identical. Three identical. And then first mate Alex fell overboard and I didn't get the rest. Well, it said each answer be having three identical letters. This implied more riddles.

Starting point is 01:13:02 And pretty quickly, he set off to work, found the next step in dead man's grotto nearby with another riddle for Jesse to read. This one was written out on the wall. So hopefully this one doesn't get cut off. I don't know what happened there. We pirates face a sea of troubles. Our dying breaths are only. What do you think the answer is?

Starting point is 01:13:26 It never remembered has three identical letters in it. Three identical answer have three identical letters. We pirates face a sea of troubles. Our dying breaths are only. Bubbles, bubbles, it's bubbles. Hey, so there's bubbles is the answer to that riddle. But that's the only riddle that he found. Interesting.

Starting point is 01:13:48 He thinks that it's because they never finished putting them in. But I secretly think that he just has not found them yet. And it's not looking hard enough. And this was first posted to me. I saw the post on November 21st. So this was not that long ago. No, it's possible. It's possible that you could be the one to solve the mystery on Tom Sawyer Island.

Starting point is 01:14:08 Pirates mystery, because it says each answer be having three identical letters. And that sounds only like one answer with three identical letters. Yeah. But also does a rhyming scheme. So bubbles was easy when you just think troubles, you know what I mean? So like, I feel you. But we do this, but it does have three letters.

Starting point is 01:14:25 And I think maybe we can. I think there are more, right? They would put something like fake and not done up in Disneyland. Not in Disney. Yeah. So I end this episode with an invitation for you to go to Disneyland and look around and find things that are that are secret in history. And you, maybe through the help of the Shlumanati podcast, can solve the mystery of Tom Sawyer Island.

Starting point is 01:14:47 If you do that, you get to take Alex's place as host. Yeah, that's true. You have to make the Greenstone part three. And with that, we come to the end of part one with part two of Disney Urban Legends coming soon with much, much more hardcore black diamond and double black diamond legends. But before I go as a teaser for today's mini-sode, which you can get again at patreon.com slash Shlumanati pod, I'm going to be talking about a couple of the various secret rooms and secret like secret rooms and like off menu things

Starting point is 01:15:16 that can happen at Disney parks. So come be a patron to hear that right after this. Thank you guys so much for watching. We love you guys so much and we'll see you next week. Goodbye. Bye. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the Shlumanati podcast. It's always I'm one of your hosts, Mike Martin joined by the

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Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 182 - The Darkest Disney Urban Legends

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