Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 185 - Christmas Cryptids Around the World (AKA Mostly Germany)
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Hello, everybody. My name is Mike. I'm one of your...
Wow, I almost opened like a YouTube video.
I've been recording YouTube lately,
and I haven't done that in so long.
Hey there, gamer guys and gals.
It's me, Raptor.
Sorry, it has been so long since my last upload.
My mom is in the other room, and I have to be very quiet.
Welcome, welcome back to the Shulum Naughty Podcast.
Episode 185, as always, I am one of your hosts.
You know, today I'm just going to be Michael Martin, as always.
But today, I am joined by none other
than the Jeff Goldblumen Will Smith of LA.
Whoa, we did a little weird, a couple of weird ones before.
So let's get back into something.
I didn't want to do a nice chill one like this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, we're in that weird spot
between Christmas and New Year's.
Mathis, have you seen Independence Day?
Yes.
Okay, then it's, you know what? I'll allow it.
I saw it in theaters, and then we had it on VHS.
All right, my question for you, Mr. Fosyani.
Yeah.
Have you seen Independence Day?
Are you? Everyone's seen it.
That movie is like, it's certainly a classic something.
Are you Will or are you Jeff?
And see, in a long time ago, back in 2020,
before the slap, I would have said that you were,
without a doubt, the Will Smith and I was the Jeff Goldblum.
Now, I would say we're both Jeff Goldblum.
Good answer. Will Smith's dead to us.
Good answer.
Good answer.
Science over war, world peace forever.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good answer. I like it.
All right, we're stuck with two Jeff Goldblums.
You know what? You're not stuck with two Jeff Goldblums.
We're blessed with two Jeff Goldblums.
I mean, only one of us here has gotten to hang out with him
and maybe arguably pretend that you're his friend.
So.
Dude, loved it. Big fan.
Big fan.
Have you introduced him as your friend, Jeff Goldblum yet?
You text him all the time, like, hey, what up, Jeffy?
How you doing?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He probably doesn't remember.
What'd he call you?
What would he call you? I can't remember.
Jess.
He gave you like a nickname, didn't he?
It's just my name. He just called me Jess.
Oh, okay.
He didn't like say anything weird.
Yeah.
No, yeah, all right.
He just called him Jess.
He called him J-Sex.
He called him J-Sex.
You got to hang out with Jeff Goldblum
while he wore leather pants, even.
That was a wild trip.
I feel like no one told him he was going to do that.
I felt for that man.
He was like thrust upon.
So like, I'm going to sit here for how long
and play Jurassic Park, the computer game
that I don't care about at all.
I also want to shout out Michael Martin.
Hello, it's me.
What?
He's just, you know.
He's dropping the, he's dropping the, he's dropping the SN.
He's just trying it on, you know what I'm saying?
The SN?
The SN?
The screen name.
You're not, you said, I'm Michael Martin.
You said, I'm, you know what I'm saying?
Oh, yeah.
Well, well, well.
You didn't get on me for being called Jess.
All right, Michael Martin.
You guys said I'm Mike.
It's I'm one of your hosts, Mike Martin.
Now you just say Mike Martin, not Michael Martin.
I don't say Mathis on this podcast.
Why are you, why are you informed?
Why are you, why are you Michael today?
That's always been that, dudes.
You guys are just only noticing it now.
No, no.
You introduced yourself.
I've never said my name is Michael.
Because I told you, because like,
I don't know why today I went with Michael Martin.
I don't know why my brain made that jump.
Michael Martin does sound kind of like a guy
presenting a case, like a litigation.
Yeah.
Okay.
But what if I told you I'm Michael Martin, Jr.
Does that change what I am?
Am I still a litigator?
Now you're like a, like a folk painter.
All right.
I'll take, I am a junior.
I'm a junior.
You only paint landscapes,
but you always have the same woman in every landscape.
Yeah.
Like just like,
woman or is she like always like very visible?
Oh no, she's hidden in some.
Yeah.
She's like, she's like,
when how Hitchcock puts himself in all his movies.
Yep.
Yep.
You're like the M. Night Shyamalan of paintings.
In 1998 and an episode of Antiques Roadshow,
one of your paintings was valued at $6,000.
Oh, I'll take it.
That's one that I ever expected any of my art to be worth.
In 2022, it's still $6,000.
He died during the civil war
when he accidentally shot himself with the rifle.
Yeah.
He accidentally shot himself with the rifle
through his balls.
And then he got his wife pregnant
with the, by hitting her in the belly
with his, his bullet that went through his balls.
People said it couldn't happen,
but it was the first case that proved it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's why everyone thinks you could get pregnant
from a toilet seat.
It's true.
Yeah.
And speaking of things that people think are made up,
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You really can.
This is not a joke website.
You can go there, you give us money
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That sounds like a joke website.
I'm not going to lie.
It is a joke website.
That's the new slogan is a, it's not a joke website.
That's how it goes.
You can get ad free episodes.
You can get like a 15 to an hour long mini-sode
after every episode.
They're really fast.
They're mini-sodes.
The past four of them have been over a half hour each.
I think two of them were over 40 minutes.
They were to fucking regular episodes.
When we do finally, yeah.
When the compilations finally catch up to those,
that's going to be a chunker, bros.
They're only going to be able to have like two.
I'm not going to put a two hour episode of mini-sodes out there.
It's going to be a chunker.
Although some quality is a little bit better than others.
Admittedly.
Admittedly.
We always bring our S tier game.
Oh, we bring an S tier.
And sometimes you go on a 25 minute rant
about like ridiculous stuff, you know, whatever.
Yeah, yeah.
That sounds like the podcast to me, baby.
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Okay.
Yeah, boys, we're in that weird time period right now
of like after Christmas, before New Year's,
everybody's feeling kind of, you know, a little lazy,
still a little relaxed.
Maybe some people don't even go back to work.
And I could have done that.
You know, I could have said, you know what?
We're not going to do an episode, mini-sode compilation.
But I said, no.
Wow.
We're going to do an episode.
And here we are.
But we're going to keep it light.
We're going to keep it fun.
Hero.
Today, we're going to take a look at some.
I have 10.
We might do a little more.
But 10 of the weirdest Christmas slash New Year
cryptids that exist.
Specifically New Year cryptids?
Mostly Christmas, to be fair.
Mostly Christmas cryptids.
All right.
All right.
They operate until January 1st.
And then they leave.
So, you know, we've got some weird ones.
I think Jesse, I'd be curious how many of these you guys know.
Jesse, I know you know at least one of these.
I think you did a Cosson Crandor on there.
Is it Santa for all points?
Santa's not on there.
I'm going to blow some fucking minds.
I'm going to blow some fucking minds.
Is it the Yule Cat?
Santa has origins prior to being called Santa Claus.
So.
Santa Claus?
No, we're not going to do Santa.
You did pick.
You did hit on one slash two there with the Yule Lads, though.
We'll talk about the Yule Lab.
I know about the Yule Lab.
The Cranky's going to be on the list.
Cranky?
Well, yeah, he's actually the first one on the list.
No, the Cranky's.
The much more famous.
Oh, no, no, Cranky's.
I just did Cranky.
Like, Cranky's.
Christmas is the Cranky's?
Apparently, like, the ones we did last week, the.
I can't remember the name of the two dudes anymore,
are like mega famous.
And one of them was in Drop Dead Fred, which, like I said,
I've bizarrely seen.
What?
Yeah, remember the two English actor duos
that we talked about last week and one of them was dead?
We got roasted on the forums about, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were like, they don't know them?
Rick Maillol.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thank you, Dean and Aide Edmanson are our,
thank you, producer.
Yeah, they are apparently very famous and.
I don't know why we're expected to have
this, like, extremely British knowledge.
I just don't have it.
I wish I did.
You did.
I don't know why we were the Cranky's.
Well, I don't I don't know why anybody expected me to know
that even Dean didn't know the goddamn Cranky's.
We should have had the Cranky's at Coxconn for the last one.
We should have had a lot at Coxconn.
All I'm going to say is, we should have a lot at Coxconn.
We should have a lot at Coxconn.
Benjohn.com slash Chulmanepot.
We should have had a lot at Coxconn.
All I'm saying is, we can't expect to be expected to know it,
but we have come on here and been like,
rough, rough, twi, and dive.
So really people expect us to know all sorts of stuff.
You know, but I don't even know what that reference is.
That's to tell you.
It's just British TV.
It's like a British TV show about weird animated animals.
The only British TV show I have seen is Doctor Who
and the QI show at at Alex's house.
That's it. That's it. That's all I've seen.
You are the weakest link. Goodbye.
Is that count?
Because it came to America.
You didn't watch British episodes of the weakest link.
No, I did not.
No, but she is British.
So that's true.
Like Toast of London, like those kinds of like,
have you ever seen I.T. crowd?
None of that?
No, basically is Matt Berry.
Have you ever just like, you know, wait,
I have seen the British office.
That's not Matt Berry, but like, OK, that's actually surprising.
I saw that first before America office.
I'm actually that's actually very surprising.
Yeah, I liked it quite a bit.
It was quite good. I saw it in high school, weirdly.
OK. OK.
But that's today's not about that.
And today isn't about that.
The Majestic 12 documents might be real.
And we'll talk about that in the actual minisode,
because that's insane.
You know, we got we got a list to go through.
The first one's going to be one that we've already talked about.
So we'll do it very, very quickly.
And that's obviously none other than Krampus.
We did an episode 19, I think, is our Krampus episode.
If you want to feel like how long this podcast has been going.
Four years ago, we are one month away
from our five year anniversary in February, which is fucking nuts to me.
You know how we can tell we were bored in February five years ago?
The podcast. OK. OK.
Diamond, diamond, diamond.
Yeah, yeah, there was no OK from you, Alex.
This is Diamond Diamond.
That's Jesse's first response was how often I was like,
just once every two weeks to start, man,
we'll see how this goes first.
And now you're stuck.
Now you're in 185 episodes in with no end in sight.
The tunnel just keeps getting deeper and darker.
You know what? I like it down here.
It's cozy to honestly.
I love it a lot.
So obviously, if you don't know Krampus is he's basically a goat like
looking demon from mythology, Germanic mythology, specifically,
who shows up at Christmas time not to give kids presents,
but to pick them up, put them in his bag and spank them with a bunch of sticks.
Usually the shit out of them, beat the ever living shit out of them.
People still celebrate Krampus all over the world today.
People dress up as him and do all these things.
Celebrate. Is that the right word?
They're not like, we love the Krampus's vibe.
We appreciate what he does.
Well, I think a few of them now, other than scaring kids,
they do give out like candies and stuff at the end before they go away.
You know, they they they are terrified Krampus.
Yes, they gentrified Krampus a little bit.
Yep. And they've come to smacks to shout at one bad kid
and throws the other kids a bunch of fucking candies.
But they have to watch the bag to get smacked. Yeah.
Out of the three of us, who would have been the one to get B?
Me. Let's not pretend.
All right. I like. All right.
I agree with that answer. I'm a good boy.
Yeah, I got my Sega Genesis the year that I asked for it
because I was so good the whole year.
That's all my dad gave me a Sega Genesis
that he bought out of some guy's car for a hundred bucks.
My parents told me I had to wait for a super.
They were like, a super Nintendo is coming.
Your uncle read about it.
So I had to wait two years for a super Nintendo.
Your uncle that works at Nintendo.
I don't. I did find out later.
My uncle was like a hard.
I learned about Warcraft for my uncle.
I watched him play Warcraft orcs versus humans.
I was like, it's his fault.
He was a big nerd, except he's not at all.
He was like, you know,
he then dictated the rest of your life from that moment on.
Orcs versus humans.
Oh, I'm so hyped about cataclysm.
Yeah, that was it, really.
We we did an episode on Krampus, like I said, a long while ago
in that we look a little bit deeper into the origins of Krampus.
So go listen to that.
But we also then put the theory that he might it might be an alien
also because that's really, I had no rules
on the kind of episodes I was going to do.
I was just back then it was a crazy show idea.
Yeah, today way more organized.
All right, way less crazy.
But yeah, that's that's Krampus.
I he's a he's a cool dude.
I like Krampus quite a bit.
All right, let's move on to the next one.
Whoa, you can't say Krampus beats children.
Pretty cool, dude.
Pretty cool, dude.
I have him at my Christmas.
I have nothing to fear. Goodbye.
Exactly. I have nothing to fear. Goodbye.
The only people who are afraid of Krampus
are the people who got problems.
You know what I'm saying?
I just watched our producer like lose his soul for a moment.
Unless that was fun.
So the next one we're going to talk about is one I had never heard of.
And I'll be curious if you boys did.
Frau Perkta.
Frau Perkta, the Christmas wit.
Perkta?
Perk, P-E-R-C-H-T-A.
I'm assuming that's how you say it. Perkta.
Is that the German name for Elsa from Frozen?
Uh, yes. Good joke.
You got him. You got him.
He was like, I don't know.
Thank you, guys.
I have seen bits of Frozen.
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I want you to know this.
I didn't know who this was.
I went to go Google it.
And the very first line on Google is,
don't f with Frau Perkta. Got it?
What are you? I don't know who this is.
What are you about to tell us?
Frau Perkta.
I'm about to tell you here.
Terrifying Christmas witch.
Oh, shit.
This comes off of...
Yeah, this is...
This is actually your...
I think you're looking at the source of this,
of my, like, bulk of information here.
Why does she look like this?
Burrowsofthedead.com.
Thank you very much.
Frau Perkta isn't as well known as Krampus, obviously.
But this Christmas time,
goddess slash witch thing,
she's still kind of scary as shit.
She's a staple in the Alpine regions
of southern Germany and Austria.
Where is Krampus from?
Oh, Germany. He's German.
He's Germanic as well.
Germans.
Germany and Iceland, dude.
What's going on?
Those are the two countries we look at today
and go, what's wrong with you?
Is everything okay?
They're in touch with the fucked up shit
in their souls in a way that we are not.
And I have to look up to them for that.
Like, Frau Perkta, real talk.
She looks like the grandma of one of the blockheads
from Gumby.
Terrifying.
And that fucking Rasputin.
It looks fucked up.
It's terrifying looking.
She looks like the vacuum from the brave little toaster.
It's fucked up.
I don't know what to tell you.
Oh, my God.
It's fucked up.
I have seen that movie so many times.
That movie is horrifying.
It's actually genuinely scary.
It is.
It's a scary fucking movie.
That movie is so scary.
According to the book Old Magic of Christmas
written by Linda Ridesk,
Frau Perkta was also known as Berkta or Bertha
and has also been called Spinstubenfrau.
Spinstubenfrau?
Spinstubenfrau or Spinning Room Lady
is what it translates to.
She's usually depicted with a beaked nose
made out of iron, dressed in rags,
carrying a cane sometimes,
and generally resembles a decrepit old crone.
But this crone is a dangerous lady
as she carries a long knife hidden under her skirt
at all times.
Oh, shit.
She's the fucking monster from Don't Look Now.
Yeah.
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She also bears a resemblance to the Scandinavian goddess
Friga, and both of them share one obsession,
spinning specifically and domestic neatness generally.
So spinning is like spinning yarn, you know, thread,
that kind of thing, not like spinning in a room.
When I originally read this, I was like, what do you mean?
She was just like...
Records?
No, I pictured her in a room just spinning in circles
and I did not understand what they meant.
It took a few weeks.
DJ Frau Perkto!
She's like exercising hard.
She pulls in guest DJ Shaq as he walks in.
I'm a police officer!
She's a pretty judge-y character about the state of your home
for someone who also kind of just dresses in rags.
And legend has it that you'd better get all your flax spun
by the 12th night, which is January 6th.
Yo!
As I was saying, she goes into January.
Anyway, quote, for when the Christmas season was over,
it would be time to set up the big upright loom
at which time you must have enough thread
to warp it and start your weaving.
And what's Frau Perkto's punishment
for those lazy ladies who haven't finished all their weaving?
Quote, in Germany, Austria and Switzerland,
there were numerous tales of Frau Perkto trampling
and even setting fire to the half-spun fibers.
So she just ran in, knocked it over, stomped all over it
and sometimes was like, you know what, fuck you extra and burned it.
I don't think I like Frau Perkto very much.
I feel like she is made up to keep women in line,
which is not, which I don't like.
Well, you might be a bad vibe.
You might be wondering what she's going to do
if not only is your flax not spun,
but your house is not clean because she loves a clean house.
I imagine she's going to stab me with their fucking knife.
And also, what if you forgot to leave out
her traditional bowl of porridge for her?
This is the most German shit I've ever,
like it is like delicious cookies.
This is like multiverse Santa.
This is like Santa's of the multiverse.
Well, this is instead of...
Tell me at the end of this, like, yeah,
she's, I would put her for multiverse 666, all right?
Yeah.
Because, yeah, sure, stomping on your, you know,
thread is garbage and setting it on fire extra mean.
But if you leave your house dirty
and don't leave out her porridge,
she'll rampage through your whole house
and by the end of it, she'll smash into your room,
disembowel you and replace your guts with rocks and straw.
So first off, that is...
That is like a true detective season.
But also, that is actually 100% right.
This is a cautionary tale to women to be like,
you better clean, you better spin,
you better not cause any trouble, or else you'll be disemboweled.
That's exactly what this is.
It's crazy.
Don't make any noise, clean up your place,
or we'll cut you all the time.
Land porridge ready to go at any moment.
I don't want to see salt even near it.
Other legends have her in association
with the legend of the Wild Hunt as well,
saying that she flies through the night sky
attended by an army of lost souls,
including demonic looking Perkton,
her army of servants who are visually nearly indistinguishable
from what we know as Krampus.
So she flies around things like Krampus.
This is like Grendel and Grendel's mom?
Yes!
Let's throw this out there.
There's like a men in black style agency,
funded by the patriarchy,
and they want to keep ladies in line.
The queen is Frau Perkta and her agents all look like Krampuses.
And the Krampuses have a side gig where they spank little kids in sacks
because they're demons from another realm.
They have a side gig. They need some money.
That's how they gas up.
The monsters need the screams from the kids in Monsters Inc.
So if we use that science,
you can say that the Krampuses are the soldiers of Frau Perkta
and we need Dr. Who to save us, and that's it.
Here's the thing.
I love that.
I love that it's like,
oh yeah, Krampus is out there in Germany causing trouble,
but it's not Krampus got to worry about.
It's Krampus' mama.
Oh, I love the hierarchy of like...
We got like a whole fucking story being written before.
Oh my god, yeah, this works like Cloverfield.
I'm also going to...
I'm going to send you a quick screenshot here of another creature
that is sometimes associated with her in stories,
though they're not like very commonly, but occasionally.
And these are called the Stregel.
There you go.
That sounds like a cookie.
It sounds like a delicious cookie.
In many places, such as Switzerland.
Hey!
All right, if you want to know...
I'm just going to read right off of this.
Imagine Alex Fosiani with horns.
Imagine I was...
Oh no.
Highly covered in fur.
Imagine I was hired to train Hercules
to be the best that he could be.
And...
That's your voice by Danny DeVito.
And I'm voiced by Danny DeVito.
Oh my god.
Except I'm also like half Ferengi for some reason.
Yeah, you do got a Ferengi vibe.
You're not wrong.
This is also related to her?
Yeah, sometimes they're seen right...
Like she rides with them as like pets and stuff.
These are her little minis.
So this is like the majestic 12 of Christmas
is what we're looking at here.
So these guys are seen in Switzerland
and Perk the rides with a throng
of demonic looking helpers known as Stregel.
They're seen with Perk the...
How big are they?
I don't know.
They look tiny to me.
But these are basically the pets of the Krampuses.
Wait.
So Krampuses have Pokemon is what you're telling me?
Before you interrupt me let me just lay it out real quick.
So
Frau rides with Perk the
who are the things that look like Krampuses.
And these are the things that are known
to ride with the Perk the.
They ride a throng of demonic helpers.
Like the Perk have these things in throng
so I'm going to imagine they're not like super big.
I'm going to imagine that they're on like
Chewbacca style bandoliers across.
They pick one off and throw it like a grenade at someone?
Yeah.
They just rolls out and just goes.
These little fuckers love to partake of the feast offerings
that are left out for them on Christmas
by people hoping for Perk's blessing of wealth
and health in New Year.
Just chowing down on porridge.
Yeah, literally.
And in some places these guys get to dole out
themselves and aren't terribly discerning
as they rob all bad children
and tear them to pieces in the air.
What?
I like that she's like delegating responsibility.
You guys have got a whole kingdom
of creatures she runs.
It's hilarious.
So you're telling me there's no way to tell
where Frau Perk it was on
January 6th? No, we can't tell you. We don't know.
It was the final day.
It was the final day. Perhaps
the White House didn't leave out the bulge.
That guy with the horns was really...
Oh, he was one of the Perk's.
Maybe it was a Krampus.
Or he was a straggle maybe.
He could have been a straggle too.
That's true.
He said he couldn't eat because he was a vegan
or some shit.
Some victim noise.
That's all I remember.
But I just want to say also
during the topic
I saw Krampus between last week and this week
and that movie was
Mid.
It was okay.
I felt like a lot of lost potential was had.
It was a lot of building
to some cool-ish scenes.
Some really cool creature designs and then it was over.
I think that movie has more potential
the bigger your own imagination is.
Yeah, maybe.
How willing you are to accept the...
There's so many things that could have done with that.
The one in the movie, does it dress like Santa?
Does it wear a Santa outfit?
The reveal of him at the end is he's like
paying looking Santa like a mummified version almost.
It's like all
withdrawn and shit and he's got horns.
He looks fucking cool.
Do you think Krampus wears Santa a lot?
I mean, yeah.
No, I don't think he wears Santa garb often.
I don't think he would be.
I think of him on media.
You know how people draw the moth man
and little green men all the time?
I feel like when people draw the Krampus
he's dressed like Santa most of the time.
If he's smoking a doobie, he's also dressed like Santa.
He's like standing there waiting for Santa
and then he turns around and he's like
like that kind of thing.
Yeah.
He looks like the Chupacabra dressed like Santa.
He looks like dead ass.
And just so you're aware, the army of souls
that follow us in the sky are the souls of unbaptized children.
Well, there you go.
So these things are like pro-Christian
for some reason?
They're like, we won't touch them
if you bless them with the water of the god.
The one true god
who we believe in.
Yeah. Legend has it.
If you hear the wind and thunder roaring and rumbling
through the mountains on Berkthal knights
you're really hearing the sound of Perkta
leading the wild hunt.
I'm sorry. What was that? What was that last bit?
So the whole thing,
legend has it.
No, no, no, I'm sorry.
Berkthal knights.
V-E-R-C-H-T-L knights.
Berkthal knights.
In more modern times
she's kind of more known as Mother Hall
who's a winter goddess
whose name means shining or bright.
So again, they're gentrifying her.
Her association is with Epiphany
or the shining night on which
the Star of Bethlehem shone down.
Her dual nature is expressed in the fact
that there are both evil or ugly Perkton
and pretty Perkton
both of whom you might find in a typical
Perkton lough
or Perkton run in the Alpine regions of Europe.
The pretty Perkton are all well
and good, but honestly
the evil Perkton are way cooler
looking overall.
There's some weird overtones.
This is how the tall whites
are like low-key racists.
Some people are ugly
and they're worse objectively
than pretty people.
Can we get a movement to bring back
Old Frow Perkta back
and not this nice Mother Hall version of her?
I want the guy who starts off the special edition
Jabba's Palace theme song.
I'm looking for it.
I need to get on the internet right now
and write the people making the next Witcher game
and be like, this is a quest line.
You gotta get the scene there, man.
You fight one of the dudes
and then it's like, oh, but there was a mother.
Like, oh, come on.
Look at guys running around.
That's perfect. That's super great.
Well, that's our first creature.
There you go. That's Frow Perkta.
Next up is one that you may have heard of
called the Bellsnickel.
Do you know what the Bellsnickel is?
You said May, but I...
The reason I say May is because fans of The Office
may recognize it as the person
that Dwight dressed up as
in one of the mid-seasons, like five or six or something.
After my time.
And he dressed up as the Bellsnickel
for the holidays.
You can take a look at this thing. He's the guy who wears like...
He's got twigs in his hair
and he's all kinds of weird looking.
He's a crotchety, furclad Christmas gift-bringer figure
in the folklore of the Palatinate region
of Southwestern.
You guessed it, Germany, along the Rhine,
the Saarland...
They got like different traditions in each house.
Yeah, they got so many Christmas people.
Time out. Time out.
Time out. I just...
I'm so...
Every one of these is just another version of Alex.
Look at this photo.
It's another version of Alex.
This is not good.
This is how Alex wrapped in a fur coat kind of vibe.
How come all of them are like...
Alex's perfect smile.
I don't like that half of them are in blackface, guys.
What's up with that?
What do you want? This guy's not in blackface, is he?
No, why? Like, about half of the ones that I'm seeing
are in blackface.
Oh, I'm not looking at one that's that. I don't know.
Oh, that's soot. Cause it comes down the chimney.
Oh, yeah, okay, yeah.
What are you, the fucking Dutch government?
Are we trying to...
Are we realizing that we started a podcast with a cryptid
who just over time has had to change his identity?
If there was ever a cryptid, Alex is a cryptid.
100%.
I'm no more cryptid man.
He literally just did the smile.
It's not how identical that looks when you do that.
It sucks.
It's like crazy, dude.
Someone just saw you in their visions
and drew you. It's incredible.
All right. The bells nickels,
a crotchety fur clad Christmas gift bringer
out in that area, I told you about.
Germany along the Rhine,
the Saraland, Audenwald area
of Baden-Wuttenberg.
The figures also preserved
in Pennsylvania Dutch communities
and Brazilian German communities.
The bells nickels related
to the other companions
of St. Nicholas. Again, multiple companions
for Santa out here
in German speaking Europe.
He may have been based off an older
German myth, Nekt Ruprecht,
a servant of St. Nicholas and a character
from Northern Germany. Unlike
those figures though, bells nickel does not
accompany St. Nicholas, but instead
visits alone and combines both
the threatening and the benign aspects
which in other traditions are divided
between St. Nicholas and the companion
figure. This guy shows up, beats
the shadow of your kid and then gives him a playstation.
Yeah.
And he's wearing questionable
face makeup.
Bells nickels
a man wearing furs and sometimes
a mask with a long
tongue, which we've seen. He looks like
that's what he looks like. He really does.
That's an amazing way to
straight up. That's what he would describe him.
The mask with a long tongue,
I find that fascinating because that's also
seen on I've seen in modern
crampus, I would call it celebrations,
but like, you know, festivals
or wherever and just like that same mask
with a really long tongue. Yeah, I know the one.
He is typically a ragtime
timeout. Yeah.
This is the most important thing you've ever
so we're all aware of the
amazing Kurt Russell film, the Christmas
Chronicles. Well, you
clearly aren't aware of the sequel
that came out in 2020.
Christmas Chronicles 2 or whatever was called
the enemy, the villain of
that movie is the boy
from Deadpool 2
and his name, he's
the bell snickle. He's Bell Snickle.
That's hilarious. He's the bell snickle.
I never even heard of the first movie, so I don't
fucking know. The best part is, is he's wearing a leather jacket
and he just looks like a young kid in a leather jacket.
They really went all out. Which is the bell snickle.
Yeah, the bell snickle. He's not a
typically very ragged and disheveled man
wearing worn, wears torn
tattered and dirty clothes and carries a switch
in his hand to which he beats naughty
children, but also pockets full
of cake, candies
and nuts. Pockets full of cake.
Candy and nuts.
Who is this deranged man?
I reach into my pocket young man and grab my nuts.
He puts it all in his pocket
and then he walks around for 25 years and then
it comes in.
You gotta bring snacks.
Well, there is a first
hand account of this guy.
A first hand 19th century account of the
bell snickle, not just kidding, it was the bell
snickle tradition. Happened in
Maryland, U.S.
particularly Allegheny County.
It can be found in Brown's Miscellaneous
Writings, a collection of essays
by Jacob Brown, who was born
in 1824 and
of a writing of a period around 1830
Brown says, quote,
we did not hear of Santa Claus. Instead
the tradition called for a visit by a different
character altogether.
He was known as Kris Kringle,
bell snickle and sometimes
as the Christmas woman.
I don't know why that's weird.
He's sometimes known as Kris Kringle,
which obviously would turn into
Kris Kringle later, and bell
snickle, they're both the men and then, but
sometimes he's known as the Christmas woman.
Children then not only saw the
mysterious person, but felt him
or rather his stripes upon their backs
with his switch. So you don't even get to see
the guy. He's invisible and just fucking
wax you without you being able to see him.
Definitely not their parents
quickly hitting their children and hiding it behind
their back, claiming it was the bell
snickle. Is that a
thing? I don't, what, the parents
hit them and hide it? I don't know. That's not
part of the bell snickle. This is the 1830s.
Anything could be happening in 1830s.
Listen, I know we got to be careful how we talk about
these things on here, but there are
elements of the Christmas tradition, even
in America, where, you know, we say one
thing's happening, but really, in the
end, it turns out to be the parents doing
something behind the kids backs. This is an 18
only podcast. If you clicked on it, you know
it. So I didn't say what it was.
I know I just, I just want to know.
I want you both to know.
It took me a second
to realize what you were talking about, because
to be honest, I thought you were saying
some really mess. I was like, what are you
saying? I was like, what are you saying?
I was like, what are you saying?
I was like, you made
sound way worse.
Okay, but we're all on the page now
and we know it's not whatever the fuck
you guys were thinking it was, and it's
definitely just what I think it is. I just
want to make clear that everyone at home
listening. We're all on the same page.
I'm not afraid anymore. We have Dean here.
You can edit anything. Magic can happen.
In fact, last week, he did what we asked
him to do. He did what we asked him to do
last week. He did what we asked him to do.
His British voice showed up and said
Chiluminati podcast over Alex's wrong
show call out during the Patreon
segment. So thank you. We appreciate
your good editing.
Subscribe to Super Beard Brothers.
No, subscribe to Chiluminati
on Patreon because that's how we pay Dean.
Jesse Cox.
The annual visitor would make his appearance
some hours after dark, thoroughly disguised,
especially the face, which would sometimes
be covered with a hideous, ugly
fizz. Generally wore
what? P-H-I-S.
Fizz? P-H-I-Z.
Fizz. What is that?
What the fuck is that? Is that a fizz?
That's what maybe.
You know, I don't know. No, what? No.
I'm looking it up. A fizz is a person's
face or expression.
Okay. So what?
Fizz.
I can't believe this is a quote.
Plus enough to paste his fizz
on the cover of Time Magazine.
We need to talk like that again. We need to get back to that.
Yeah, it just means face.
Yeah, he was covered by a hideous...
It says covered by a
hideously ugly fizz,
aka face. Generally wore a female
garb, hence the name, ah, Christmas
woman. Sometimes it would be a...
Do we mean like a mask maybe? Yeah, well
they said sometimes he wears a mask with a long tongue
and all that, so that's... maybe that's what they meant.
And
yeah, sometimes it would be a veritable woman,
but with a masculine force in action.
Again, this is from a book from 1830.
He or she would be equipped with
an ample sack about the shoulders
filled with cakes, nuts and fruits
and a long hazel switch,
which was supposed to have some kind of charm in it
as well as a sting.
One hand would scatter the goodies upon
the floor and then the scramble
would begin by the delighted children
and the other hand would ply the switch between
the backs of the excited youngsters
who would not show a
wince, but had it been
parental discipline, there would have been screams
to reach a long distance.
So he doesn't even hurt them when he hits them.
They don't even know he's hitting them until it's too late.
Very strange.
So yeah, you know, that's the bell snickle.
A quick overview of that particular
Christmas character has
flavors of crampus,
flavors, flavors of
Santa. Before you move on,
I need... I went down a rabbit hole
that I'm not sure I should have.
Fizz
isn't fizz. Fizz is
a shortened form of fizzog,
which is a shortened form of...
Visage? No, no.
It's a shortened form of fizzogamy,
which is
the study of
outward appearance, especially features of the face
to determine temperament.
So they were like,
let me see that fizzog of yours.
That's very fucking weird.
Yeah, that's insane.
Fizz?
Fizz become face?
I don't even like...
Bro, I have no clue. Yeah, fair enough.
Yeah, he's still celebrating
in weird ways all over the world.
Did he roll with... like he rolled alone?
He rolled alone. He showed up on his own.
He threw all the candies on the floor
and then he would hit the kids as they were scrambling.
That's fucking hilarious.
I know, it's great.
And then it's super funny. How do they make
that part of the legend?
I don't know. He fucking throws the candies
on the floor and then he smacks the kids.
Let me ask you a question. If you were a child
and you don't go for the candies, do you get smacked?
No, no, no, no. He's hitting...
He basically throws all the candies on the ground
and then he will hit only the bad kids as they scramble.
Go for the candy?
Even the good kids, the good kids he ignores
who are going for the candy, it's the bad kids.
It creates an easy target.
It creates an easy target.
It waxes them as they're going for it.
They don't feel it. They can't feel it either.
Do you think he did that to begin with?
He went in there and he smacked the kids
and then eventually he was like, it's not funny anymore.
I feel like this all started from a weird
1700s perv that
then built a legend around his action.
Also, what was the 1700s candy?
That hard pack.
Enjoy, kids.
The hard molasses.
An orange. Just like a fucking orange.
Like half orange.
It's kind of dry because it's been sitting
in a fucking dusty counter
for a week.
Getting all covered in bug shit
and whatever.
Merry Christmas. Here's a gross orange.
All right. Next one.
Have you boys heard of Hans
Tropp, the cannibalistic
Christmas Scarecrow?
Is this also Germany?
Let's find out, boys.
And this one, big shout out to Steampunk Librarian
for the info on this one.
There is some sexual salt.
If that is something you don't want to hear.
So, this guy
is a weird, bizarre
creature from
Alessay Lorraine
and it's very interesting
because we have the legend, but we also have
plenty of information on the historical figure
from which the legend sprang.
This story went from a man
having a dispute with the Catholic Church
to being a boogeyman
who eats children.
And this guy, the guy who's based off of
a man by the name of Hans von Trotha.
Hans von Trotha.
He's got like a very Game of Thrones
coat of arms, honestly.
It's really cool. I like it a lot.
Yeah, it's a really cool looking dude.
So, the legend is multiple
in its core.
The milder version of the legend
claims that he was a black knight
that stalked the Palatinate region
much like the bells nickel
and that he was used as a threat
to make children behave.
And of the Jungfernsprung, however,
he then gains
a much more sinister reputation
as a man who stalks a maiden through the forest
causing her to fall from
rock formations,
the rock formation known as Maiden's Leap
which she miraculously survives.
Quote,
Once a maiden ventured into the forest of Don
to pick berries. When she was far away
from home, a man suddenly burst
out of the thicket, probably the robber baron,
Hans Troth from
the Stine Castle. The man clearly intended
to rob the virgin of her innocence
so the young maiden gathered up her skirts
and took to flight, but the villain came
ever closer to her. In her panic,
the young lass failed to watch where she was going.
All of a sudden, she found herself
panting for breath at the edge
of the precipice with the houses of the town
far below. Without stopping
to think, the young maiden fell over the abyss
and now the miracle happened
because her skirts ballooned out
and let her float down gently. She survived
the leap entirely unhurt
and ever since, at the spot where her foot
had landed, a spring has
flowed. That's like
the stuff, like more
I guess you call it aggressive version
of this guy.
And this, that was like in the 1800s
or so on and that particularly
was pulled from, oh god,
the Westfaltz Journal
Sagenhoftfelsen der Joggensprung
which was from 2013.
So German, this is still German
of course. This episode is called
Germany's complicated relationship
with Christmas.
Literally, like all the horrifying creatures
kind of, for Christmas specifically
sprout from that area.
After that, the story seemed
to take a turn for the much, much worse.
An article on Ripley's
website describes trap as being
the worst of the anti-Santas.
It's said that at one point, he
stabbed a child, sliced him
into tiny pieces and cooked
him eight his flesh.
So you know, probably
I would say give him the worst anti-Santa tag
after that. I don't know how much he gets
much more worse than stabbing and eating
a child.
But again, the Ripley's believe it or not
doesn't check their sources. So take that with
obviously a grain of salt.
A pathios article delves into some medieval
satanic panic and describes the legendary
figure as being a quote
cruel man of great wealth
who acquired his wealth not through hard
work, but from acts of magic
and packs with demons. He himself
being a man who worshiped Satan.
And I can tell you from firsthand experience
that nothing happened. This is also fake
because I tried the same thing
and it didn't fucking work.
Magic is specifically spelled with a K
because old timey magic.
Sweet.
This whole thing of this cruel man seems to be
the source of actual fact
because this is what led to what he calls
great battles with the church and the pope
and was eventually excommunicated from the church.
Everything he owned was taken
by the church and he was shunned and
banished.
He would eventually seclude himself in the woods
where he invested even more time in black
magic, supposedly,
which made him lose his mind and caused
a taste for human flesh.
He then enacted a plan in which he dressed up
as a scarecrow so they could snatch kids
as they came through the fields.
Using this ploy, he was indeed able to nab
a young shepherd that he dragged back to his shack
where he set to butchering and roasting him.
However, before he could take
the first bite of sweet child
flesh,
God struck him with lightning and he died.
But God didn't stop him from killing
the kid though.
God was excited to get that kid in heaven
because he wanted to hang out with them
but after the act was done, he killed
the guy.
The article then goes on to say that it was after this
that trap became a hooded scarecrow that it would abduct
naughty children and carry them away into the forest
never to be seen again.
But there is some truth behind all this.
Hans von Trotha was a 15th
century knight in the Palatinate region
who was in possession of multiple
castles and political positions.
Some time in the 1480s
a dispute arose between von Trotha
and the abbot of Weissenberg Abbey
over some contested property.
At the peak of this dispute
von Trotha dammed a nearby river
which flooded fields and meadows
in like an act of
I guess dispute
I don't know what you would call that
or why he would have done it.
After complaints by the abbot von Trotha
ripped out the dam and flooded
the town of Weissenberg as well as their economy.
It's believed that this was von Trotha's
plan the entire time.
The war between von Trotha and the abbot
continued for years before von Trotha
was finally called before Pope Alexander
VI but von Trotha
maverick that he was didn't go
he refused.
This was a serious screed to the pope instead
which eventually led to excommunication.
While the people directly in charge
of von Trotha disavowed him in public
they still worked with him even going so far
as to send him to the French royal court
during the Italian wars.
Apparently he was a very good diplomat
which seems at odds with his inability to find
a compromise with the abbot.
While he was at the French court
he was even awarded a chevalier d'hue
knighthood by the king so he became a knight
while he was in the French area.
All this he did die in 1503
at the ripe old age of 53.
Legitimately a
final fantasy villain character.
Yeah, just bizarre.
I know.
After he died all the
sanctions against him were lifted
and he was given an appropriately
Catholic burial.
So as soon as he were died they were like
alright we'll take him as one of our own now.
So yeah von Trotha was a real
guy who was a fucking asshole
you know
damned up the river as a
means to piss off the abbey
and then flooded the whole fucking city afterward
like Jesus Christ.
That's insane. Nuts.
But yeah and then from there
his cannibalistic like
rumors were kind of grew from there
but there you go there's the cannibalistic
scarecrow also another weird German
Christmas person.
Next up is Pierre Fautard
which is French
father whipper or old man
whipper. He's a character
who accompanies Saint Nicholas on his rounds
during Saint Nicholas Day
December 6th dispensing lumps of coal
and or you guessed it
beatings to naughty children
while Saint Nicholas gives gifts to the well
behaved. He is known mainly
in the far north and eastern regions of
France and some in south
Belgium and in French speaking
Switzerland although similar characters exist
all over Europe obviously
you can immediately see
the comparisons between himself and Krampus
and Beltsnickle. This whipping father
was said to bring a whip with him
to spank all the naughty children
who misbehave. So honestly
what would you prefer a wooden switch
or a whip to beat you?
I don't
think that I would take the whip.
I feel like I would have taken the wooden switch too.
I feel like a whip is like
I feel like this could be like a trick
you know what I mean?
We know a whip would hurt.
But like a switch to a wood ass switch?
That's got to hurt too though.
Well but nobody
is actually getting their ass beat. It's just all
like none of this actually
happens. They didn't name this after
a person right?
Yeah no this isn't he's not based off
of as far as I know. Like does somebody come into town
dressed as this guy and actually whip children
no way right?
I don't think it's a regularly practicing nowadays
for my look at it
very again admittedly very quickly
the latest I can see is they were talked about
yeah I don't
I don't think so. I don't think anybody dressed
up as them
mostly because like the stories we're about to get into
the couple of them are extremely violent
and I don't think that that parents were doing
that but I also don't I mean
if they were celebrating with him
I could see people dressing up as him instead of
Krampus because he's essentially the same
character
just like given a different name you know
but here's some of the most weird stories
about him one of the most popular stories
about the origin of Pierre Fautard
was first told way back in
1252
an innkeeper or butcher in other versions
captures three boys who appear
to be wealthy and on their way to enroll in a
religious boarding school along with
his wife he kills the children
in order to rob them one gruesome
version tells that they drugged
the children slit their throats cut them
into pieces and stood them in a barrel
Saint Nicholas discovers the crime
resurrect and resurrects the children
after this Pierre Fautard
repents and becomes Saint Nicholas's
partner a slightly different version
of the story claims that Saint Nicholas
forced Harry Fautard to become
his assistant as a punishment
for his crimes so either way
the dude netted a lifetime job
after killing three kids by Saint Nicholas
Saint Santa came and was like you know what
I'll take you into my wing
you will punish kids for some reason
I'm still going to allow you
to physically hit children
even though you killed three of them
but you're gonna do it under my watch
another story states that during the siege
of Metz which was a city in eastern
France in 1552
an effigy of King Charles V
was burned and dragged through the city
meanwhile an association of Tanners
created a grotesque character
also a tanner armed with a whip
and bound in chains who punished
children after Metz was liberated
the charred effigy of Charles V
and the character created by the Tanners
somehow assimilated into what is now
known as Pierre Fautard
events surrounding the city's liberation
and the burning of the effigy coincide
with the passage of Saint Nicholas
hence Pierre Fautard became
his quote-unquote bad cop
counterpart
he actually did show up in the 30s
in the United States under the translated
name father-flog
or spanky
I'm sorry what was it
translated to father-flog
or spanky
that of course
America would do that of course
would be like all spanky
1930s America
was father-flog
or spanky
that sounds like 30 gangsters
he needs a new agent is what he needs
hey it's all spanky time of year
almost identical to the original
french personification
father-flog had nothing to do with Christmas
and also had a female accomplice
named mother-flog
the tool doled out specific punishments
for specific childhood crimes
example
cutting out the tongue for lying
so they just
America just didn't restrict them to Christmas
they're like they're gonna come at any point
this guy never relax
he's always working
he's got that mindset
he's there
I just want a basketball for Christmas
alright this next one
is a group
of creatures that Jesse is known
rather well these are
Icelandic in nature
the 13
Yule lads from Iceland's
own mischievous
Santa Claus
they are very very weird
and incredibly entertaining
and I'm excited to talk about them with you
so Icelandic children get to enjoy the favors
of not one
but 13 father-Christmases
called the Yule lads
these merry but mischievous fellows
take turns visiting kids on the 13 nights
leading up to Christmas
on each of those nights children place one of their shoes
on the windowsill
for good boys and girls the Yule lad will leave candy
if not
the Yule lads are not subtle in expressing their disapproval
they will fill the shoe
with rotting potatoes
god damn
ain't that a good time
it's harmless I like it
I buy this these are real
while the kids may enjoy 13 Santa Claus
visits they also have
to contend with a creature called
Greela which we'll talk about
as a separate creature immediately after these boys
I just want to say Alex
every single one of these
again you are the most
you are like our Christmas miracle
every single Yule lad is a version of you
I love it
alright well let's talk about each one
very quickly
so these are all pulled from the Smithsonian
um
in this particular I'm at Smithsonian magazine
for this
this is the 13 Yule lads
the first one is sheep coat clod
he tries to suckle yous
and farm his sheep sheds
that's his thing that's like his defining personality trait
that's what he does suckles on sheep's tits
that's his thing
that's it that's what he does
they're like their own they're like the seven dwarves
but
hang on let me get you a quick like
picture so you can I'll
I'll post it in the uh
oh great okay this is a very quick
picture of all 13 of them
go watch the animated version of this
very thing right now
there you go those are the 13 of them
yes
alright next up is gully gawk
gully gawk also likes a very particular
thing and that's the foam
from buckets of cow milk
he likes to scrape it off the top
and steal it just get that
so far I'm nothing else so far I don't
have a lot in common with these guys
all right all right I disagree
I got the beard I'll say you know
if you had the opportunity to suckle from a sheep's
tit would you do it I think he would
just to try
just to try
I'd have to know at least I mean
yeah exactly and that's how I feel about having sex
with cryptid so okay I understand
okay stubby
is the third one
stubby yep stubby
stubby hey guess what he guess guess what his thing is
he eats he eats thumbs
no he's short and steals food from frying pans
oh that's me
he loves fried food dude he's a fried food guy
that's me he steals food from frying pans
while I'm frying food you have to guess this next one
yeah what is this guy do spoon liquor
okay I'll figure it out let's see
spoon liquor
he loves
to lick a spoon
god damn you are good
but what spoons is my question
and a spoon with stuff on it he likes it
he loves to just like
he likes the dirty spoon it's not about getting
his tongue into a smooth middle
it's about all those treasures left behind on the silverware
yeah he loves it yeah yeah
all right next up also one you're gonna have a hard time
guess them get uh this is
pot scraper a.k.a.
pot liquor
now pot liquor when my dad makes
like collard greens
is a delicious beverage that I like
to shoot with vodka or soju
oh yeah that juice
yeah but pot liquor
in this case I gotta imagine he just
he's similar to spoon liquor
you you are correct with one
extra difference between the last two other than
stealing and eating the food he will also
steal the unwashed pots he takes them from
he takes the pots he takes the pots it is
he loves them so they just really don't want you to leave
any mess anywhere no phone
loud hide those titties
sorry ladies is
bowl liquor
surprise surprise he steals
bowls and of food from under the
bed specifically and
back in the old days Icelanders used to sometimes
store bowls of food there convenient for
midnight snacking
they really didn't like it when people licked
their stuff I think
finding out about the Icelandic people
there's more
oh yeah next up is door
slammer
he stomps around and slams
doors keeping everyone awake
oh I see
so you don't want to be like any of these guys is the idea
correct
now you have to know the translation of this next word
well hold on ok go ahead
the next word you should know I mean I think
you should know right
alright well let's see this next one is
skier gobbler
he gobbles all his skier
he loves yogurt dude
the Icelandic yogurt skier
yeah he just eats up Icelandic yogurt
alright I can't blame him
sausage swiper
sausage swiper is one
yep
that's I mean
he loves stolen sausages
that's my brother actually
my brother on Christmas
he'll eat like
four pounds of sausages I don't even know how he does it
this next one
named window peeper
this is the me
this is the you
I wouldn't want to be Alex and not be window peeper like
this is the George McFly of the group
yeah
he likes to creep outside windows I get that reference by the way
and sometimes steal the stuff
he sees inside only sometimes
sometimes
he's like window shopping thief
he's like a window stealer
yeah I just think he likes to he's like a voyeur
but he's not just a voyeur
he also might steal sometimes though
the thing that he's looking at
it's true
we have three more
door sniffer
he has a huge nose
and an insatiable appetite
for stolen baked goods
so he sniffs the door
and like sneaks in and takes your goods
this one I'm like whatever on
this one
this next one is absolutely you
this man's name is meat hook
matches up any meat left out
especially smoked lamb
okay well meat hooks okay in my book
yeah right that's pretty good
meat hook can hang out
he can use my house as his base
you can come over anytime
he can sleep if he wants
honestly this is the guy who became CEO of butcher box
he's got a store at somewhere
yeah
last but not least of the 13 year lads
is the candle beggar
he steals candles
after items way back in
in olden times
basically an iphone yeah
I need you to know the funniest part about this
and I think this is the best part about the yule lads
you can imagine the story
sitting down around a fire
to tell the kids about the yule lads
and they're like papa
what are the yule lads names
and you say them
well first there was
sheep coat clawed
and his friend
golly gock
and they're like what were the others
and you're like uh stubby
look at the others
spoon liquor
and then it just like devolves into just what they do
they don't have names anymore
he's like his eyes are darting around the room
as he's desperately nervously sweating
until you ran out of shit that to lick he moved on
this one sniffs the doors
yeah just looking at the room like
one takes candles
and this one makes meat hooks
the wax that shit with hot commodities
and there was candle beggar and he's gonna steal our candles
he loves candles yes yes
I love that
there was also the yule cat
I love the yule cat he's my favorite one
also known as yola cotorin
at butcher day
a huge ambitious cat who is described
as lurking about the snowy countryside
during christmas time
and eating people who have not received any
new clothes to wear before christmas eve
you better get new clothes on
or the cat is gonna eat you
he is also
he is a pet of grila and her 13
yule sons
though referred to as an ancient tradition
written accounts of the yule lad have only been
located as recently as the 19th century
the threat of being eaten by the yule cat
was used by farmers as an incentive
for their workers to finish processing the
autumn wool before christmas
the ones who took part in the workers
that worked on adults
well you know I'm sure kids
were out in them fields as well
doing a lot of childhood
labors in the 19th century
imagine telling a 25 year old man
yule cat
there's this cat out there and he can sense
if you have new clothes
I'd be like okay grandpa
let's get you to bed
if you don't have new clothes
it isn't like a punishment against you for making it
if you don't have new clothes
he eats the person without new stuff
you have to have new clothes
there's almost like a
you're supposed to give stuff to the homeless as well
but if you don't
then homeless dudes dead
you're like telling your son
see that guy over there
he's not going to be there tomorrow
we don't buy him a new outfit
because this cat is coming who's very hungry
it's even like just buying a sock
like new socks
here's the fucked up thing
here's the fucked up thing
if you do this
monster
what does the cat eat?
nothing he's a supernatural cat he'll be fine
there's always going to be someone who doesn't
get something new
there's always those lesser than you
that's heavy oh shit
this I'm saying
oh yeah I know
the ones who would take part
in the work prior to Christmas
were rewarded with new clothes
and those who did not would get nothing
and thus be preyed upon by the monstrous cat
the cat has alternatively
been described as merely eating away
the food of ones without new clothing
during Christmas feasts
and the perception of the Yule cat as a man eating beast
was partly popularized by poems
of Johannes Erkotlum
as well as the rest of the folklore
it's so much weirder to just wake up
naked though
I know I know it is
and the last of this family
of Yule creatures is Grilla
Grilla is an ogre
who lives in the mountains of Iceland
like Krampus and Mary Lwyd
she is a Christmas monster
and only appears around
Christmas time
the stories about her in Iceland vary
some say she is kind of just like a boogeyman
who enjoys scaring people
others present her as a much darker entity
saying she murders children
and eats them
in Iceland she is as famous as the mother
of the Yule lads
and as the Yule cat as a pet
known thing
Grilla is very similar to Krampus in many ways
while Santa brings good children presents
Grilla has an unsatiable hunger for naughty children
and she is always grumpy
like Krampus she'll kidnap kids
in a sack
she then brings them home to cook them alive
and turn them into a stew
she won't kill them first like the cannibalistic scarecrows
she cooks them alive
like Santa Grilla has helpers
her sons known as the Yule lads
they are usually much less cruel than their mother
she pranks on people during the Christmas season
all that obviously depends
on the version there are some tales
of the Yule lads as homicidal
child eating monsters
Grilla also has a
giant cat named the Yule cat
which we just talked about
Grilla is married
to her third husband
named Lepelui
third husband
she's had two previous
Lepelui who lives in the
lava fields in a cave
this historic area is rife with supernatural
mischief according to folklore
due to its unique natural castle formations
and traditional tales of it being the place
of Satan himself
where he landed when he fell from heaven
and then
that's cool as shit
damn it's fucking sick
but that's her
she's just kind of like a Krampus analog
who's a little bit more violent in some of the stories
and
I had three husbands
if you want to know what her husband looks like
it looks like the dude from Harry Potter
the guy with the beard
perfect I love him
you know what dude you know what I'm talking about
Hagrid yeah it looks like Hagrid
Hagrid okay alright
and our next one and our final one
is have you heard of
Mary Louis
the zombie Christmas horse
what
the zombie Christmas
horse yeah yeah yeah
Mary Louis
also known as Gray Mary in English
is a Welsh zombie horse
that visits people's homes and pubs during the Christmas season
many Welsh
believe that the ghost horse brings good luck
in the new year
and traditional
the traditional people let the horse into their homes
which sounds like a horrible
horrible fucking idea
I don't know why you would do that
the week between Christmas and New Year's
is the time
when the Mary Louis comes to visit
usually at night
usually six people act out the tradition
one member would hold a horse's skull
while some of the others
carry a sheet over the group
to give the appearance of the ghost horse
this thing is awful looking
I know
the remaining members of the group
tie colorful ribbons around the skull
and use them as reins to leave the horse around
while the towns people sing Christmas carols
and Welsh traditional songs
the horse walks through the town
when the horse entered a house or bar
the horse would try to attack the residents
the people leading the horse would restrain the horse
from attacking children
most of the chaos, although portrayed as terrifying
was all in good fun
the guests were often rewarded with Christmas desserts
to thank them for bringing good luck
to the house
the horse represented bizarrely good luck
this is just like
a seed for a creepypasta
is what this exists
it really seems like it
way back in ancient practices
she was celebrated
it was typically celebrated on New Year's Eve
specifically since these ancient times
people have then kind of expanded it
have created a festival during this festival
of lights signifying birth and hope
and good fortune
and she's like the rebirth of a dead horse
in these more modern festivals
that help represent her
that's pretty much it
the zombie horse in her group
will just knock on doors
asking in song to be let in
the song is sung in Welsh and it's pretty much the same
with a few variations which we can actually
I can maybe add this in Dean
maybe you can edit this in
in this moment as like a little
not the whole thing but just a little taste
here's a version of it gentlemen if you want to hear it
I'm going to listen real quick
this literally looks like somebody did a babality
on a blood-borne boss
this thing is absolutely
bedraggled looking
so scary truly
we'll get a nice little taste in the episode
for everybody there and a nice little Christmas taste
what's fascinating about this
is that it isn't just singing
they would walk up to the house
sing and then
you would have to sing back
why you can't let them in
and then you would have basically a rap battle
about why they're allowed
the last bit I have here is once the traditional
opening verses are sung
which by the first verses of that song
were meant to be sung by Mary Louis
the horse
Mary Louis and company are answered by those inside
with challenges and insults
a battle of wits known as
punco ensues where riddles, challenges and insults
must be exchanged in rhyme
if the zombie horses party
wins the punco
which can be as long as the creativity
of the two parties endure
the merry party enters with another song
and is given drinks and treats
so the people carrying the horse
win the rap battle they get
food and fucking drink dude
I don't know how many people listening have played this
but if you played the newest Assassin's Creed game
Valhalla
in that game characters
have like rap battles and it's like an ancient
art form where they sit there and they're like
like rap and rhyme with each other
that is pretty much what this is
that's fascinating I love that
that is nuts
it's truly
like very
like hauntingly
I don't know something about this custom
really grabs me in a romantic way
I love it too and that is the
if it wasn't for the terrifying horse skull
everything about this is charming as hell
yeah the horse skull makes it even better
it's like a build up quest or something
it's so weird
but this creature is still out there
so if any of you out there have a knock on your door
and a zombie horse starts asking to be
let in with a rap battle
prepare your greatest wits and retorts
and hope to fend it off lest you need to give it food
and drink and last day
is actually tonight on the night of us recording it
so best of luck out there
as you know it's already been gone
this is also like the long
if you don't know the creepypasta long
horse
yes I know long horse
it looks just like long horse
yeah that's unpleasant
that wraps up our little relaxing kind
of holiday in between episode
of some weird Christmas
creatures out there
that's kind of all of them that are worth noting
for the most part
we're off to go do a mini-sode where I'm the only one
bringing a topic from last week
because I have Kostakos's
Top 10 Weirdest UF
Encounters of 2022
that we're gonna go through but we're gonna open
with the recent tweet on
Christmas Eve from Christopher Mellon
who then puts out this big fucking blog post
don't do it on this episode
we gotta do it on the mini-sode
that maybe the document of the majestic 12 might be real
we're off thank you guys so much for listening
goodbye
hello everybody
welcome back to the Jaluminati podcast
as always I'm one of your hosts, Mike Martin
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no
Neo and Trinity
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never will let me just tell you right now
that there's two
Leon Kennedy and Claire
I'm telling you I think he literally
just looked up famous duos
and he's been going through the list
ever since
I'm trying to dig deep
which one of you is
Dick Powell
your name's Jesse Cox
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