Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 187 - Valiant Thor Part 1: Jesus was an Alien

Episode Date: January 14, 2023

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Starting point is 00:01:56 988's Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. Hope has a new number. Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Jaluminati podcast, episode 187. As always, I'm one of your hosts, Mike Martin, joined by the fry and lauri of LA. Hey, Jesse and Alex. Now, there's a question. Hey. Now, there's a question.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Well, a bit of fry and lauri, you know what I'm the, you know, there's a question. Which one's fry and which one's lauri? Um, who's Stuart Little's dad? Stuart Little. Oh my God. I've seen that movie. Stuart Little's dad and the guy from QI. The guy from QI.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I'm more of a Stuart Little's dad. Let's not pretend. I really don't. I would have said the opposite. Is that weird? I know who I am. Yeah. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:03:05 I was going to say the opposite, but then I realized deep down, I know what I am. A mouse father, because I can't raise any kids, but a mouse I could handle like a rambunctious precocious mouse who wears pants. I could handle that in a New York brownstone teaching them how to sail like your daddies taught you how to sail. All right. Yeah. I didn't know if I was going to continue or if that was where the thought ended.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Nope. That's where that's where the thought ends. No, I get it. He's a mouse father. Yeah. He's a mouse daddy. Yeah. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:03:58 I'm telling you, but every time you sign up for Patreon, you only get to choose one of us to be daddy for. So you got to choose why. Don't do that. Don't do it. Don't make them have to choose between us. You're going to. If you watch this, this month's rotten popcorn, you're going to find out how your own grandfather
Starting point is 00:04:14 can become your daddy. Just real quick, what are I forgot that movie was a thing elf. That was, that was, I felt like, I felt like I ate shrooms and just like went in another place for like an hour and a half. Can I just, this is for a teaser for everybody. Can I just get like your briefest, like favorite scene in that movie? The main is when the camera turns and the elf has a gun and that's all I'm going to say.
Starting point is 00:04:39 That's all I'm going to say about it. It is. It comes out. It's just insane. My favorite one is when Santa wakes up and he's sleeping in the room with the, the dead body outline. That's right. My favorite is the fact that there is at least a 15 minute plot point about a piece of tape
Starting point is 00:04:55 on a door that is, they go to that, like 10 times, it's madness. The mom, the mom who was just a whole other thing, which by the way, don't watch this with your kids. That's all I'm going to say. No, no. Don't even watch it. Don't just. This is all about Nazis.
Starting point is 00:05:13 You should skip this one. That's my advice. No, you definitely should. This was maybe one of my favorite movies that we watched together. This was a truly upsetting, arguably a snuff film. Arguably a snuff film. Arguably a snuff film. I don't, I don't know if I agree with it.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Right. That's the problem. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. That's the, that's the big problem. Oh, did you see? We finally got that horns picture boys.
Starting point is 00:05:40 I know I shared it with you, but we haven't talked about it yet. I, I love it. Yeah. Remember that, that reader story that says they can see horns and you, we told them like picture. I thought you said horn picture. Yeah. They drew the picture.
Starting point is 00:05:51 They drew the picture. I, I, I am concerned, but also very impressed about mine personally. Well, you have three because you're extra horny. Well, Alex has three with a fourth nub and poking out. Well, that's cause Alex is, you know, horny, but balanced. I'm beyond. You're beyond that way. I'm beyond.
Starting point is 00:06:07 I have two very average horns and frankly, I'm here for it. Yeah. You're like, I don't know how you got the most normal out of all. What can I say? I'm the most normal. That's what people turn it for. Jesse, the most normal Cox. That's true.
Starting point is 00:06:20 That's what they're here for. And you were called out on Twitter. Did you see that? For being a liar? Who? What? What did I lie about? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:06:28 My Cox and Cren d'Or live a redheaded, which told you they, that would wanted you to come and join her. Coven and was like, all into you and stuff. She said the ritual, because she said ritual. You were like, I'm out. Yeah. No, I absolutely she she wanted me to join a coven and I was like, that sounds like a trap.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Let me honest. That's exactly what you asked for. Last episode. So, you know, it seems like a taste change, people change. Okay. So you came to the next. Life show ready for a covered, but a hundred episodes of the show later. of the show later, maybe I am.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Yeah, we change about this. We change you for her. That's going to be like one of those things where Bugs Bunny gets walked into the kitchen and they put him in the nice big bathtub. And then they fit it with nice white wine and aromatic carrots. And on you and he's like there, yeah. He's like, yeah, a little warm in here, Doc. And Jesse's just happy feet up.
Starting point is 00:07:21 This is the best. Coven I've ever decided to be like that. What we do in the dark episode about the witches is when they get kidnapped, Laszlo. I have not I'm not seeing it. I don't know you're talking about. I don't even know what that is. You know what?
Starting point is 00:07:33 Look it up. OK, I'll look it up at some point. All right. Well, I've got to broaden your your horizons even further today, Jesse. We're going to open your eyes. It's twenty twenty three. Our first episode of twenty twenty three don't even know what I don't even know. I know, man.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I you know, and that is honestly the key to life right there, Alex. I appreciate that thought. It's twenty twenty three. And while twenty twenty three is probably going to be the year true crime part two, there's also going to be crazy shit still. Is that right? It is. And today's a crazy shit episode. I don't want to start twenty twenty three on a downer.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I don't want to make people feel vulnerable and afraid as a new year births them into this earth. Instead, I want them to be filled with wonder and curiosity, you know, that childhood aura that we all lose around thirty years old or further depending. And that's why I've made a list of twenty three mysteries. Just kidding. Yeah, it's a twenty three twenty twenty three and part one mysteries or whatever the fuck we called that. I can't believe that was a year ago already, by the way.
Starting point is 00:08:33 We're we're about to be in our fifth year next month. Next month is our five years of this. Yes, sir. You're only as young as you say you are. Yeah, damn grandma has said she's thirty nine since she was thirty nine. She still is thirty nine in. So the past couple of episodes have really kind of had my brain turning. A lot of alien stuff has been kind of put in front of me recently. I have also come across a bunch of alien stuff in the past week that your
Starting point is 00:08:59 poor text messages have been filled with me ranting and pictures. And I think it's justified. It's some pretty good stuff that article. I see. But can we just the first article I'd sent you with that awful alien face sat on the front of it? Yeah, that's the problem with UFO reporting right there. No one is going to take that article, no matter what is written in it. Seriously, with that goddamn picture,
Starting point is 00:09:20 it's like it's like in the Phoenix lights where the mayor came out and he was like where he had like the fake aliens with them and stuff. And then later exactly, he like recanted everything. But because he did that, it was like ruined forever. Yeah, exactly. See, that's the kind of thing that happens. But the Calvin the Calvin photo is I mean, that's been around for about a year now. But it's it's kind of like showed up and shushed very quickly.
Starting point is 00:09:45 So that's something I'd love to talk about later. But we're going to talk about something a little less. How do I say realistic without making it sound like fake? It's fake. OK, no, we can't go that way. Because today is all about Eisenhower's not his first meeting where he signed the Treaty of Greta, which is the treaty between the Greys and and the humans were, you know, as we talked about the treaty between the Greys, the humans is called Greta.
Starting point is 00:10:12 That's, you know, we talk. That's that's where the M.J. 12 stuff happened, you know, that kind of thing. No, in fact, there were multiple more meetings that Eisenhower had with aliens. And today we're going to be talking about the time Eisenhower met an alien by the name of Valiant Thor. If you're about to tell me this is a one of those tall whites,
Starting point is 00:10:33 I'm going to lose my mind. Valiant Thor is not a tall white. He is a Venusian. The hell's a Venusian from Venus. Bro, damn right. Correct. I've heard of Valiant. I have I have heard of Valiant Thor. I don't really know the story. I all I know is that he talked to the president. That's the main he did. The main thing like he talked to Eisenhower.
Starting point is 00:10:53 It was a lot of yeah. No, that's exactly what it's like. He said that thing came up and bet me. You got it. Nailed it. That's exactly what it was. Yeah. If you have questions, Jesse, now's the time to put them forward. Maybe I can help you out. But yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:07 The words of the news. Even ask. I didn't tell you where to start with. You're. Why does he have the name of a Marvel Comics mini series? Yeah, I get there. Or did Marvel Comics steal his name and use it as inspiration? I have a feeling they were probably thinking of the Asgardian. Right, right. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Well, your first question should be, where's the story come from? Why in the hell are we talking about it? And who is the person telling the story? And that's where I say, don't worry, our sources are extremely legit today. Oh, the first and main source that we're using for this is a book by the name of Stranger at the Pentagon written by and I kid you not, Dr. Dr. Frank Stranges. Dr. Stranges.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Dr. Stranges. Yes, correct. And that is Dr. Stranges and his book on four. Does that sound like a Marvel mini series? Dr. Stranges is his name and he died in 2008, born in 1924. This is the man who claims to have been a friend of Valiant Thor personally. He knew him directly. Valiant Thor's friend, Dr. Stranges, Dr. Stranges, correct.
Starting point is 00:12:15 And you might, but was was Stranges there for the meeting between Valiant Thor and the president? No, good sirs. No, that was Tommy Stork. He was hanging out with Iron Man and Captain America's. There was only one. There was only one witness to this, a man by the name of Jerry Light. And he witnessed it. Dr. Light.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Doctor, no, no, he wasn't a doctor. Just a man. Yeah, no doctor. Make a man. And Jerry Light was able to witness this, not physically in person, but by an out of body astral projection where he watched the meeting. Dr. Stranges, astral projected to the. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Jerry Light astral projected to witness the meeting between Valiant Thor and President Eisenhower. Dr. Stranges met Valiant Thor separately and became very good friends with him over time. Is that all? Do we got that all set up? Yeah, and Hulk and Iron Man and they became the Avengers. And Hulk and Iron Man. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Incredibles, Hulks. Stranger at the Pentagon is the main source, as well as a very wide amount of internet resources, particularly a Nick UFO dot org, which I will link you to later. Don't go there yet. I'm saving that for a minute. We're going to go to the doctor's. Yeah, Dr. Stranges homepage.
Starting point is 00:13:35 That was Dr. Stranges website. And it's the thing he found it on his own. So very quick about who this man was, who wrote this book, who claimed friendship with Valiant Thor was born 1927 and died in 2008. And he was a very religious man, so much so that he was going to the preschool. Crap, it literally left my mind. My brain secular, secular school is going to secular school
Starting point is 00:14:01 where he was, you know, very much on his on the road to becoming a priest. And through his time there, he started getting curious about UFOs. Is that what a secular school is? I think that's the wrong word. Whatever I'm messing up with the name of the preschool. Seminary school. A seminary. How to become a priest. Seminary. Yeah, seminary.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yeah, correct. Seminary. Secular seminary to complete opposite of each other. Everything secular, you know, I wish the priest non-religious. I don't know, non-religious, you know. Either way, he was he started questioning UFOs. This is during like the the 40s and 50s when things in the UFO world were getting really, really popular.
Starting point is 00:14:40 There are a lot of supposed sightings and a lot of potential government conspiracies happening. And instead of like his other students amongst him laughing at it and making fun of it, he gripped his attention. He said there had to be something at the center of this. Now, he didn't give way to his religious beliefs and belief of UFOs. In fact, he believes and says he was told that Jesus Christ himself was an alien and not the alien that we talked about in that other
Starting point is 00:15:07 episode where Jesus is leading a fleet of ships on his own. No, no, no. Jesus is God made flesh, but also an alien and God is real. Can I tell you something out of all the wacky things we talk about in the show? The longer I live, the more I'm inclined to believe Jesus was an alien because I don't know any humans out there preaching kindness and loving one another. It's just I don't think it's a thing we do. So I'm convinced it's an alien.
Starting point is 00:15:35 He's like, I bring you peace. I bring you love. And yeah, we were like, none of that here. Thanks. So yeah, I believe it. Dr. Strange's wrote a lot of books, videos, lectures, audio CDs. And in fact, he sold all of these again. Stranger Stranger at the Pentagon is one we're using. But to give you a taste of some of his writings outwitting tomorrow, angels,
Starting point is 00:16:02 Millennium Seven, spacecraft over Earth. Are these disco records? Is that what you said? No, these are his books. Oh, damn. OK, well, the UFO conspiracy and there's there's not to UFO secrets and bases exposed. So there's a little smorgasbord of the books he's written over the many years. And in true fashion, if you want to order one of these, I'm going to link you now,
Starting point is 00:16:26 boys, there's an order form you have to print out and mail to his to his wife or was, you know, widow now. And you can see all the books right there. There's a Spanish edition that costs a dollar extra. And you can still buy these absolutely right now. But look at the UFO websites fall into two categories. Hurts to read with neon green and in like black background or boring. This looks like hypno space out.
Starting point is 00:16:56 This looks like hypno space outlaw. Yeah, all of them made on GeoCities all among GeoCities. Yeah, 100 percent. This looks like it's compatible with the Sega Dreamcast browser. That's you know what? That's actually like weirdly accurate as that like blue green color that they like used for all computer stuff before 1999. Yeah, if anybody wants to see this, by the way, NICUFO dot org.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And you can just check out the website. Click on the order form and just like look at that sucker. There's a literal like like what do you call those JPEG images from Microsoft Word of what I think is a fax machine on this thing. Do you see this? Yeah, it's like a clip art. It's like a clip art. It's it's like it's exactly what you would expect a website like this to have.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Also, the old branding for Visa and Mastercard from like the. Yes, like a couple of brandings ago. Now, I don't know if this she's still taking orders or not. Oh, this is just in Chatsworth. That's not far from it. Oh, really? You guys are like close. Well, it's a PO box, so we don't know exactly what we're going to do.
Starting point is 00:18:01 But the PO box for it is very close. It's not that far from here. Yeah, the Strangers of the Pentagon book self published unsurprisingly. It was the first book after he went self published. The previous book he wrote, Saucer Mania ended up being a huge bomb. And like did not sell it all. Strangers and Saucer. This is all Marvel.
Starting point is 00:18:21 And Saucer Mania. Are you trying to see some of this to the multiverse of madness? Are you trying? Are you trying to tell me that this might be made up? Because I did a lot of work on this. All right, this is a lot went into this. Yeah, no, I don't believe that you would come to us with the fake name Dr. Strangers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And it is Dr. Strangers, dude. Valiant or OK. I don't know. Or their book, UFO, whatever it is, Alien Mania. I mean, you'd make that up. Saucer Mania. So as I presented to you that in the Majestic Twelve episode we did just a few weeks ago, the one of the first times, if not the first time human contact with aliens
Starting point is 00:19:06 was when Eisenhower left that night, which he did leave, like he actually left Palm Springs disappeared for a night for a supposed dentist appointment, which, by the way, there is a dental dental records of every time he serviced like the president or whatever because they're like meticulous about this. And on this particular night, for whatever reason, there's no record of the dental thing happening. Regardless, again, that doesn't mean he wasn't doing anything
Starting point is 00:19:31 government related and secret and using it as a cover for that. Just I'm not I'm not implying that means the aliens are real in case there's somebody out there being like he believes I want to. I believe not necessarily this story. Anyway, I believe some things, but not this one. Yeah, exactly. Um, that wasn't the first time aliens had arrived at Earth. In fact, they've been visiting our planet for centuries
Starting point is 00:19:58 with the first reconnaissance exploration voyage that confirmed that there indeed was life here on the third planet from the sun. They were out looking for life and they found us. They watched us as we kind of grew and evolved. They watched and trying to figure out what to do with us to observe us, to intervene and help us. They actually did intervene a few times where they beamed pilots out of their ships to save their lives.
Starting point is 00:20:29 Now, if you ask me for or this particular gentleman for an example, I can't give you one, but Valiant Thor told him this. So why would he lie? Why would he self publish a book like this question? You know, solid defense though. He got me there. Yeah. Why would Valiant Thor lie?
Starting point is 00:20:49 No, no, no. Why would Dr. Strange's lie? Oh, oh, I mean, I have a lot of reasons for that. Dr. Strange's money sell a book. Yeah. No, are you trying to tell me this is one of the guys trying to
Starting point is 00:21:00 make a buck off a whole UFO thing? I would never. I would never. I'm not going to touch it. I'm not going to touch it. I would appreciate that. Um, so this is all things they've been visiting Earth for quite some time, but it's in 1945 that the Earth itself ended up becoming surrounded by 100
Starting point is 00:21:17 spaceships in order to protect the fragile atmosphere which surrounds it because a chain atomic reaction could easily have resulted because of the separation of elements in the air. When we bomb, when we use the nuclear bomb, that was a real life worry, by the way, of like, it sets off a chain reaction. It's supposed to like, you know, never ending explosion that wipes everybody out. That was like a concern of Oppenheimer and so on.
Starting point is 00:21:40 But it didn't happen. They were able to like didn't stop like he found a way to like, you know, no, that's the problem is it did not stop him. Um, but UFOs, a hundred of them surrounded Earth and protected our atmosphere from that, preventing us from being destroyed and many other problems. A ripple effect, so to speak. I'm pretty sure that's just an episode of Stargate as she won, but like, no, no, this is this is the factual story of Valiant Thor who landed on Earth and
Starting point is 00:22:06 went to go see the president and then lived on Earth for a while, which we'll get to, don't you worry. Uh, this is what they considered the first aerial physical display of their existence to try and show us simple creatures here on planet Earth that they are real, that they are not a, that we are not alone in the universe. And obviously that didn't really work. You know, there's most people still didn't believe and, you know, I don't know where those hundred saucers were in the sky, but I don't think anybody
Starting point is 00:22:35 saw them is the thing. I don't think there was any actual eyeballs that saw any one of the hundred of them protected. Why are we even, how did we even, how do we know about? Well, let me tell you how we know about all of this. I got you in March six on March 16th, 1957 in Alexandria, Virginia, one of the leaders considered the fight, one of the finest leaders of the planet Venus self-described operating under the direction of the central control
Starting point is 00:23:05 and who had been chosen to make the contact with us as well as direct this project of his landed his craft and was immediately met by two police officers who for whatever reason immediately drew their weapons and pointed them at a legal alien. Welcome to earth. That's kind of, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. And especially back in the fifties, right?
Starting point is 00:23:25 Like, yeah, it's scary, but because he is one of their finest leaders and he is a talented diplomat, he initiated a thought transference quickly convincing the police officers that he meant no harm. And he was ushered into the back of their talk this way out of a ticket. Amazing. Not only, you know, he's psyched. Is there other details on that? Or is that just magic?
Starting point is 00:23:48 Like what? Well, my mind couldn't understand. You couldn't understand. Oh, it's too beyond your simple. You tell me that alien that alien watches Rick and Morty. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's a galaxy brain. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Pickle Rick, man. Yeah. Pickle. Oh, shit. Okay. All right. And so he got in the back of their control patrol car and in a kind of like he didn't in a kind of cliche way.
Starting point is 00:24:10 He more or less was like, take me to your leader. He really was just like, can you bring me to your president? And they did. They crossed over to Washington, D.C. And they were met by the secretary of defense along with six of his staff members soon police from every district and agency all joined in trying to claim their right to escort this supposed alien to President Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Starting point is 00:24:35 He would they would give him the argument because he's just so popular. I want to show the president. No, I want to show the president. No, I want to show the president. Yeah. No, I know what that's like. Little rascals episode. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Are you serious? Three stooges show the president an alien. Goes to poke his eyes, but then he puts his hands up. Right. He blocks it. He's like, well, the valiant Thor was a man in control. He didn't want and need any of them to help him. And through what the author calls quote unquote, his own version of the power
Starting point is 00:25:14 of positive thinking, he was basically able to mentally make them all go away. He was just like mental transference. He dismissed them all and he literally just walked past through security posts followed by an Air Force captain. He just was just, you know, we're if this is a true story, by the way, I just want you to realize how fucked we are. If one alien can land and just thought and control everybody with very little effort, walk right up to the president and no issues.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Like, yeah, I guess that's true. I mean, that's true. Yeah, no matter. We're already aware of how doomed we are. So that's true. That's very true. Uh, obviously, uh, everybody around him was like thrown into a kind of a panic, almost like a chaos.
Starting point is 00:25:56 They didn't know what to do with them, but they couldn't really stop him because he was just mind forcing them not to. And he wanted to go meet the president because he had a direct order from the Space High Council. That's like the UN of space to go introduce himself. Yeah, basically, you kind of, yeah, more or less. Uh, and though the his order and decree was not written in any earthly languages, he gave the power through his mind to properly translate
Starting point is 00:26:23 any inscribed messages he handed them. Captain Gould, and it's important to know that that's not his real name for the sake of this man's privacy, asked him to remain and after downing, after downing two plain bourbons, he said to himself, my God, why couldn't have had this happened on my day off? What? Wait, OK, wait, who drank the bourbons? Captain Gould.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Captain Gould drank. He took him in because he followed him in and then he was just so stressed out that he shot two fucking bourbons and asked why it just had why couldn't have this happened on his day off? Why is that in the historical record? You want to know what's even better? We have a picture of Valiant Thor. We have multiple pictures of Valiant Thor of people who were so excited
Starting point is 00:27:09 they just started to take because they didn't they were like it's an alien, it's an alien, and they were taking pictures of him. Now, it's important to know that much like the Nordics, these Venusians are human looking, not tall and white and blonde. In fact, this guy looked slightly purple, according to the book, but they look like humans. Obviously, our photos here are in black and white, but I'm going to give you the first very plain photo of Valiant Thor and it's not like a speck
Starting point is 00:27:36 in the distance. It's a very close up photo of this man. Great. There you go. That's Valiant Thor. That's a dude. That's a human. No, it's Valiant Thor.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And if that even if that doesn't convince you looks like James Bond. This is Valiant Thor writing on his tablet that I just talked about. His writing tablet. Yeah, it's future tablet in a in language you don't understand. Which one is Valiant Thor? The guy holding the tablet. Duh. Oh, you mean that newspaper?
Starting point is 00:28:05 No, no, that's a tablet. What the fuck are you talking about? All right, we're continuing. I feel like this is you're making up words for things. I'm not. I promise I swear to your purple skin. Supposedly like slightly purple. All right.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Thank you. That's okay. So he's just he just looks like young Chris Cooper in a suit. Yeah. Yes. Exactly. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:28:30 So that's just that's Valiant Thor marching by the security straight into the White House. The door opened and suddenly six armed guards led by Valiant Thor to what appeared to be an elevator. It went rapidly to the bottom most level. Maximum security was in place and after transferring to an underground train, they sped toward the White House. Six officials, six armed guards and three secret service members
Starting point is 00:28:54 escorted him and he just kept picking up more and more and more dudes as he kept going. They all escorted him to the office of President Eisenhower where he would meet the president for the very first time from behind the desk. The president rose while the secret service men remain nervous and supposedly uneasy. This is just the first five minutes of X-Men 2.
Starting point is 00:29:15 No, this happened before X-Men 2. Okay. This is this book came out in the 70s. Yeah, I know. 1976. Wait, did X-Men 2 copy this book? There you go. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:29:25 My name is Kurt Wagner. Obviously, as the president reached out his hand, or rather Valiant Thor reached out his hand to shake the presidents. The secret service men drew their revolvers immediately in reaction to him reaching for his hand forward and pointed them all at Valiant Thor, which at this point in the book, I just want to be a point out this. The author calls him Vi now.
Starting point is 00:29:48 V-A-I. That's like like arcane. I mean League of Legends. That's like a nickname like a nickname. V-A-I. Vi? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:57 He just uses it such casually and expects you to understand what he means. Vi. I don't know why. It's very bizarre. That's short for Valiant Thor. I just don't know. I had written I need to like for some reason he just switches
Starting point is 00:30:06 from use going to Valiant Thor to Vi and then that's he never says anything. How does Valiant Thor become Vi? We'll find out. Don't you worry. I've got I've got you. He hasn't even met the writer of this book yet. He hasn't even like this in the timeline.
Starting point is 00:30:18 We only know this because of remote viewing. Right. Exactly. We only know that this occurred because somebody remote you did. Yeah. Thank you very much. That's almost like they just imagined it.
Starting point is 00:30:28 If you think about it, right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to give you boys the conversation that happened and one of you needs to be Eisenhower and one of you needs to be Valiant Thor. It starts out with the president and goes back and forth from there.
Starting point is 00:30:44 So who wants to be President Eisenhower? Of course, you know, we have suspended all rules of protocol. I have a good feeling towards you. Please, sir. What is your name? He replied. Valiant. And where do you come from?
Starting point is 00:31:01 I come from the planet your Bible calls the morning and evening star. Venus. Yes, sir. Can you prove this? What do you constitute as proof? I don't know. Will you come with me to my ship?
Starting point is 00:31:21 And Eisenhower said no. He actually said directly, my friend, I cannot come and go as I please. There are others to be considered. There are committees to be consulted and security measures to be adhered to. Please spend time with us. Let's get better acquainted.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Learn more about one another. And perhaps real soon, we shall see that ship. So he turned him down and he offered him a place to stay and he would be immediately led to an apartment that was given to him where Valiant Thor would then spend the next three years living amongst us and learning all about it. I'm going to give you another picture of Valiant Thor. This is a picture of Valiant Thor, Jill and Don and those
Starting point is 00:32:05 two are part of his crew who came with him on the ship. He did not arrive alone. He has a little crew of people, but we'll worry about them a little later because they also look like humans. Here's Valiant Thor, Jill and Don and Valiant Thor is. Wait, wait, wait, never mind. Never. I mean, so this is just the same picture again, right?
Starting point is 00:32:29 This is different. No, this is the same picture. Are you sure? This is the bottom. Val and friends. Okay, but at the bottom, it's the same. It's just it. No, no, this is not.
Starting point is 00:32:40 No, no. For people who are curious, Mathis sent us one photo, which was a wide shot where it was of the tablet. This photo he just sent us is the exact same shot except closer and the tablet is very clearly written notes. It's just there's a pen clip to it. Here's Valiant Thor and more of his friends. Valiant Thor is the one on the far right.
Starting point is 00:33:02 This just looks like who is this Taylor? Why does he have a three piece suit on? It's the fifties. It's the fifties. He's from fucking Venus, bro. Yeah, but he very quickly like started wearing human clothing to blend in with us. I see.
Starting point is 00:33:20 I see. I see. Yeah. So he just he was like, well, I better get a fucking outfit on. Well, before they took Valiant Thor off to his apartment, another man burst in and it turned out to be none other than Vice President Richard Nixon. Oh, damn.
Starting point is 00:33:40 No one. Valiant Thor when he saw him. Nixon met Valiant Thor. Yeah, obviously, dude. Okay. All right. And Valiant Thor immediately saw to Nixon to be very sharp, quick witted with fixed eyes and amazing aptitude towards speed
Starting point is 00:33:59 and proficiency. He really just he got a great vibe off of Nixon. You can't see it, but it doesn't happen very often. But Alex had to lean back and just rub his eyes really deep. It's just so bold to be like and and he was meeting the president and then he turned around and Richard Nixon walked in. That's right. Valiant Thor was talking to Eisenhower and Nixon.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Would you like to read their first encounter, gentlemen? Would I ever? It starts with Nixon and then just go back and forth from there. I'm just going to hear an Alex Vassiani Nixon. I'm very ripped out of the book verbatim. Very excited. You have certainly caused a stir for an out of towner. The vice president smiled as he continued.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Of course, we are not totally convinced of anything just yet, but sufficient to say we are checking and double checking everything you say and do. When Sergeant Young from Alexandria radioed in and stated that you had just landed in a flying saucer, we thought he continued Sergeant Young had flipped. Say, were you in on that UFO flap over Washington? You certainly had us all in a dither.
Starting point is 00:35:06 You were if you were almost like the author was really desperately trying to prove that the flap happened and was writing his own evidence for it. I'm just it maybe. I don't know. He's not flap that real flap. Remember that? Remember that very real flap?
Starting point is 00:35:21 I as the vice president of the United States do decree that that flap was real and I have a question about it. Well, he assured us that he went on Valiant Thor answered the question by basically saying the planet had been under scrutiny for centuries well before the 1945 atomic bomb blast and with his special letter still in the slightly quivering hand of the president. Remember that the tablet that had the language that he gave
Starting point is 00:35:45 the ability to understand or read. He was immediately requested to follow the secret service back the way had come to the Pentagon and into a beautifully furnished apartment where he would spend like I said the next three years of his life. He lived in the Pentagon. Valiant Thor lived in a in a furnished apartment inside the Pentagon.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Yeah. How come the the alien tablet with nonhuman writing has a seven on that? I mean, valid point because you see a seven. Maybe seven is like an alien residual psychic energy from that honestly that makes photograph into my ideas. Don't do this. During his time there.
Starting point is 00:36:23 He kept complete contact with his starship and many occasions throughout he would just teleport himself in and out of his quarters whenever he felt like it exercising what he called quote unquote trans imagery to cause the security guards to visualize his face on a non existent ID badge. Doctor who didn't invent the psychic paper. Valiant Thor did. Maybe Valiant Thor was just doctor who now see that if you
Starting point is 00:36:53 would have said this is they this is the guy who inspired doctor who I'd be like, oh, I get it because he's human. But no, you want aliens got a suit. He's warping in and out of the White House. He's warping in out of the Pentagon. Yeah, he's he do whatever he wants. He's an alien from Venus. And if you're if you're wondering like, hey, dude, we've got
Starting point is 00:37:12 pictures of Venus. Why don't we see anything? How can they live on that hostile land world? Well, it's because he lives on there. There's their species lives underground. Right. That's just immune to the gravity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:23 Well, there you know, I don't know. Alien built really heavy gravity on Venus. You know, well, it just and he also goes on to say that lots of life forms live this way on many, many planets underground and out of the harsh conditions where they've grown to evolve. It also became apparent very quickly that Valiant Thor could speak any language you wanted as French, English, Spanish, you name it.
Starting point is 00:37:45 The man could speak it and it didn't have to. He could speak everything. Yeah, because of the translation circuit in the TARDIS. Oh, yeah, obviously. It works psychically. Like I said, he was able to maintain contact with the ship in his apartment and he was constantly kept informed of the growing world tensions of Earth as he as he stayed here.
Starting point is 00:38:05 And during his time, he put it had his uniform through put through rigid tests of at the time, rigid tests of like the 1950s government to see exactly what this thing could handle, what his uniform was made out of and attempted to penetrate the material with a diamond drill bit, but it snapped under pressure, acid rolled off the uniform and then burned a hole in the floor and they fired a high velocity rifle at the uniform that failed to pierce it.
Starting point is 00:38:33 The report to the president read quote physical appearance, soft, so soft silver and gold lustrous fabric unknown weight six, six ounces total, including boots, cut, close fitting like a tunic, no cuffs, pockets, buttons, zippers, clips or hooks, RTX dash, RTX T dash two tests, indestructible like a silver and gold morph suit that's invincible. Yes, sir. Pretty much just like a gymnastics outfit.
Starting point is 00:39:02 I want I got to reiterate. Lots of people fully believe that this is a hundred percent real. Lots of people believe lots of stuff. I know, I just want to put that out there. I'm just putting that out there. And in an interview he did back in the 70s when asked about what Valiant Thor felt like. He said when he shook his hand, this is Dr.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Strange's when he straight when he shook his hand, he had the grip of a man, but baby soft skin. I never want to hear that phrase, the grip of a man, but with baby soft skin. That is the creepiest thing anyone has ever said. The grip of a man, but with baby soft skin. That's psycho killer stuff. The grip of a man, but with baby soft skin.
Starting point is 00:39:50 Johnson's baby powder available now, but they weren't done testing this thing yet. The Colonel Colonel God again. Remember that wasn't his actual name for his privacy. Escort Colonel God, gold, gold, gold, G.O.U.L.D. Sorry, my bad for his privacy. Colonel God. He was a bright set.
Starting point is 00:40:07 He was a very like easy. He was very excited to run these tests on the uniform and he escorted violent violent Jesus Christ. What is going to call him a Thor for right now? That's when somebody messes up in his uniform to another room where he was going to perform one more test at what looked to be to Valiant Thor, a laser instrument of some sort and the laser upon command aimed a fine line of
Starting point is 00:40:31 intense light amplification by stimulated emissions of radiation and the Colonel began his discourse that this device contained a crystal synthetic ruby in which atoms when stimulated by focused light waves amplify and concentrate these waves, then emit the beam. That's American technology. Yeah, stars. He's explaining this to the alien who's like, tell me,
Starting point is 00:40:54 what have you got here? Well, more or less, he was very excitedly explaining what it is because Valiant Thor, when he walked in, when he saw it, like I said, he looked at the laser instrument amusingly. He was very like like a little smirk on his face. And as he was excitedly explaining what this machine does, that excitement very quickly gave way to utter dismay because the Ray was being totally ineffective against the uniform.
Starting point is 00:41:18 It's like a scene out of a really terrible television show. It's just like, why don't we have laser guns yet? You know? Yeah, I mean, if we've got this like ruby focused like ultra wave that is supposed to be stronger than bullets that they tested on this thing and acid that melted through the floor, by the way, I just want to love that. That was like one of the tests was just do you think you could
Starting point is 00:41:38 still get killed from a bullet? Like would it just like boing right into your body or just like boing right into his body? I bet you that uniform has like advanced kind of like kinesthetic energy. It's like he's like gambit built into a suit. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Where I feel like we're riding. I feel like we're adding a little bit to this. Yeah, I feel like we're just adding our own. Are we adding to the lore in a way? Are we making it better? I don't think we're making it anything. I think we're just kind of doing. I think it's free free play on the free freestyle.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Yeah, we're yes. And this guy's legend. Well, not to be completely dejected by the failure of his new test, he then went on to very excitedly explain how how powerful the United States had become since we learned how to split the atom gave him gave valiant Thor a lesson in atomic fusion, which I imagine valiant Thor probably already knew, but was being polite enough to listen, you know, about it.
Starting point is 00:42:30 And then he went on to state all that chain reaction of nuclear fission is set off by a neutron bombardment in the atoms of a aura charge of plutonium or uranium isotope with an atomic weight of 235. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's I don't know. That's just, you know, that was what he was telling valiant Thor all about it and the national secrets, scientific
Starting point is 00:42:48 principles at the heart of our most valuable national secrets. Yeah, well, I mean, it's an alien. What are you going to do? They can already destroy you. It's an alien. What are you going to do? Can you imagine if this was just fucking real? Can you can you like, what would you do?
Starting point is 00:43:02 Like somehow that this was just real. If this was the reality of aliens having visited us, it was valiant Thor. I probably just jump out off a building. Dude in a suit who chilled in an office in the Pentagon with mine powers that just like here's the here's the thing. If this isn't just photos of like a made up like he just chose photos and said it looks like Tony Curtis.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Yeah, if this isn't just random photos of a dude and he's saying this is valiant Thor. If this is a guy they brought into the White House still even that is shocking. They're like just a dude. Yeah, this looks like a dude and he's an alien. And they all believed him and Nixon's like, I just wanted to see if you want to drink like if that was you that's fucking
Starting point is 00:43:45 ballsy, bro. Yeah, so ballsy dude like a dude just showed up. That's still I need to apologize. By the way, it's not the book he wrote wasn't Saucermania. It was called Saucerama. My bed Saucerama. Yeah, now I'm talking about I want to eat. That was the book that got him to self-publish after that.
Starting point is 00:44:05 It's a weekend pasta festival in the countryside. The time was drawing near that Dr. Strangest was going to actually get to meet valiant Thor. At the time, valiant Thor was actually working closely with somebody that he calls Nancy Warren. She was one of only Nancy Warren. Sure, we know her as Natasha Romanoff. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:26 No, Nancy Warren goes out of his. If you know the late night talk show circuit, everyone talks about Nancy Warren. Yeah. Oh, man. Obviously he goes out of his way to specify that she was one of only a few since his arrival at the Pentagon and whom he was able to discern an honest and open heart because she was
Starting point is 00:44:46 one who loved the Almighty God, her country and her fellow man and that and so valiant Thor trusted her and spoke with her often and she began to formulate a plan where she could introduce valiant Thor to who else our main star attraction, Dr. Strangest. Timeout question just like real question. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. All right. Thor respected her.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Yes, sir. Because of what? Can she? Yeah. Yeah. She respected her and was able to open up with her and had trust with her because because she had an open heart. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:21 Was honest. Yeah. And loved the Almighty God, right? Her country and her fellow man. All things that aliens give a shit about. Right. Yeah. No, I don't value Thor as a fucking Christian.
Starting point is 00:45:32 He's well because Jesus is an alien. Right. From Venus. So he just but I don't know if he's just from Venus. Well, then why would he care? Why would he? Why would this alien? Well, he responds to the High Council.
Starting point is 00:45:46 He was the High Council cares. Right. Yeah. You forgot about the High Council already. They love a God fearing human. They love them. Yeah. They were like, oh, we can control these people.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Yeah. Love when somebody is religious to the Christian. Well, yeah, because because God is is everywhere. He created the universe. He created aliens and canonically accurate. Jesus is the way. Yeah. No way.
Starting point is 00:46:09 You get it now. That would be fucked up. That would be actually if if like in five years aliens land and they're like fucking like all crucifixes and shit. How crazy would that be? Here's even more. Think about that. You know how you think about like when aliens land.
Starting point is 00:46:24 What would that do to world religions? At the end of the day, you think like, well, if God can create people, God created an alien, right? Like that kind of thing. But if they landed and they were like, hello, fellow believers in Christ, my name is Glormach. If they landed and like hit us with that, that would now that would be mind blowing.
Starting point is 00:46:43 I would be like, I would just like, I got to go to church. Well, it was time in Nancy's mind that valiant or meet Dr. Strangest and she took him to one of Dr. Strangest lectures slash serve religious services that he conducted at the National Evangelistic Center, pastored at the time by Dr. John Mears in Washington, D. C.
Starting point is 00:47:14 So he, he took her to like a, I just imagine it's just like one of those like mega preacher, like trying to make it big, but never really gets out of the small stage he has in the small town. Like that's the kind of guy he is. I vibe with that strangely enough, the, the photographer in New Jersey who took those pictures of valiant Thor had actually given the photographs of him to Dr.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Strange and he had been displaying them at his lectures had ever since. So he was already aware of valiant Thor that, that he was around. He was preaching the word of valiant Thor, I guess in a weird way. And that's at the end of everything that was done at the end of the service.
Starting point is 00:47:55 She was unable to grab his attention right away because what was he doing? Well, he was super busy signing copies of his book. Saw Sarama. What the? This is like who like from whose point of view is this written? Uh, I guess technically Dr.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Strange's technically because he wrote the book technically. Yeah. All right. Yeah, but the information. Okay. So the information he's relaying comes from valiant Thor, but it's told to him and then he writes the book like a biography kind of, I guess that he wrote like more of like
Starting point is 00:48:28 what he was doing here and why he was here, you know, what should we get to over time? Don't you worry? Well, to get his attention, she decided to do what most government officials do. She flashed her Pentagon ID and that got his attention instantaneously. They were able to very quickly borrow the pastor's study
Starting point is 00:48:44 room and then she asked him, uh, if he would like to meet the man in the photographs that he was using and what did he say? Well, of course, why would he not want to see an alien and meet the alien? And so she simply said, then you have to follow my instructions to the letter to which he replied he would and she told to told her to meet, uh, told him to meet her at
Starting point is 00:49:07 the curb in front of her hotel at eight a.m. The next morning, the curb at the front of coming up to get you. I don't want to know what hotel it happened at. You don't get to know the Waldorf. You don't get to learn or what street or where this corner Ritz Carlton. Anyway, yeah, he was staying at the Ritz Carlton and so
Starting point is 00:49:28 she left and went off and in the next morning he he arrived and she was right on time. And on that time, when they met up, they began to discuss the journey of the aliens and life in general, which to him would prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is truly life in God's universe. If you don't, so, you know, again, all reaffirming that God is in control.
Starting point is 00:49:57 And Jesus, I feel like we already have an answer to that though. Like if if you believe in the universe, we're already proof of life in the right. Am I crazy? I mean, are you trying to make sense? He's like finally proof of life in God's universe. Like wait a minute. Time out.
Starting point is 00:50:14 What I don't really know. I think it means like aside from us, right? Yes, I think it's basically exactly what I think it's basically exactly what we were joking about, right? Yeah, finding out that God is like a constant in the universe beyond I guess Earth. It's so it's so upsetting to me that how absolutely fake this all is like it is plastered with just some of the there's no
Starting point is 00:50:48 way an alien would be like. Are you a believer? That's very important to me. I mean, do you believe in the Lord Jesus Christ our savior? You know, that's again, if God is is the universe then I would love to know why Jesus would be the savior of Venus. Now, if he has a story, if there's evidence that Jesus resurrected to Venus and he's like, yo, I'm here to save the Venetians.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Like maybe that's his. What if that's Jesus's thing? What if that's his like? He's like the Messiah creature and he teleports. Now that's interesting. I want more of that story. Planet to planet saving the people. That's his whole thing.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Well, that's the other. Yeah, that's the other super hero captain. Yeah, the first. The first Avenger Jesus Christ. The first Avenger. Yeah, strangers. The first Avenger like that. So the next as they met at 8 a.m.
Starting point is 00:51:44 They hopped in a car and they headed straight for the Pentagon. They drove through security. But instead of taking what he says is like the normal route to the Pentagon, they took a strange left and drove through some strange areas where guards looked at his identification badge and visualized what it was supposed to say against a more crazy psychic paper stuff. He would then be picked up handcuffed and thrown into jail
Starting point is 00:52:07 somewhere was his belief that any minute that they were going to realize he's a fraud and take him away, but it didn't happen. He did not get picked up and thrown into jail. He instead walked right into the Pentagon up to the front door of this apartment and as the door opened and he walked in, there were other men standing there. But weirdly, the three other men in the room were completely unaware of his presence and apparently could not see him.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Only the later find out the reason was Valiant Thor has the power to cloud minds and render fucking Professor X them and he rendered them oblivious to their entire hangout session. There were just three dudes chilling in case you're wondering why there's no witnesses at all, right? They can't see him. Were they frozen X meant to chill in there? Three dudes.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Yeah. Yeah, they were just standing there. You know, government crony dudes in suits. I imagine he doesn't really go into detail. He does describe one man that walks by. He looks. They said he was about six feet tall, 185 pounds with brown wavy hair and brown eyes, you know, but when he looked into
Starting point is 00:53:14 the room, he really got nervous because he said when he looked in, it looked as though as he was looking right through Frank and that made him really nervous, but he didn't have time to get too nervous because as soon as that happened, that's when Valiant Thor stepped forward, reached out his hand and said, Hello, Frank, how are you? So then he gave him a joint and he was like, come here, sit on the comfy couch.
Starting point is 00:53:37 We have some talking to do. And that's when I put on some Jefferson Starship and that's when he reached out and grabbed his hand to shake it and again describes what he said was surprised to feel the soft texture of his skin like that of a baby, but with the strength of a man. I told you that was just the way he described it. A man, just the hands of somebody who's played Nintendo Gamecube for 15.
Starting point is 00:54:05 He says that his grip was an example that silently testified to his power and intensity. He could tell by his handshake. I love watching. Just I don't think Jesse's mouth is closed the whole time. Just and how we're in intensity, everything that you just said there again, just clip it. Take it out of context.
Starting point is 00:54:26 Insane. Insane. I'm going to read the next bit verbatim from the book because it's just the other hand of a man, the skin of a supple little baby. There was such power and intensity in that little baby hand. Like it's just crazy. I will continue him.
Starting point is 00:54:43 And this is all from the book. His voice was very strong and mellow. It was filled with purpose and character. I again looked around the room to see whether the other men would say or do anything. They were still working as if I weren't there. I noticed that he was wearing the same type of clothing as I when I asked if he possessed any other clothing.
Starting point is 00:55:02 He said that he had given several officials a garment so that they could run tests on it. He then proceeded to a closet and produced a one piece suit that glittered as the sun which streamed in through the window hit the fabric. I thought that it looked like liquid sunshine. I asked him about the material from which it was made and he answered it is made of a material not of this earth.
Starting point is 00:55:22 The general appearance of the suit was all one piece even down to the boots. It contained no buttons zippers or snaps. I asked him how it held together. He demonstrated by holding the front together and passing his hand over it as if to smooth it out. I could not even locate the opening. It was held together by an invisible force sweet.
Starting point is 00:55:42 That's like what a beautiful description of this man. Do you think this is just like a fake a book all about the man he was secretly in love with. You know what the more you write the more I'm like this is some erotic. All right. I'm reading to you right now. A supple hand caressed my body.
Starting point is 00:56:00 He is becoming kind of like a Mr. Gray. Yeah, it's a little bit. He has like mind slaves in his apartment and Pentagon like what's going on here? Well, you asked earlier like what if he did all this? What was his point? Why did he come to earth was his well?
Starting point is 00:56:14 I can finally tell you what is the point of all of this? He told he told Dr. Strange just directly that his purpose in coming was to help mankind return to the Lord. Yeah. No, that checks out. So he's an angel. No, he's an alien.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Yeah, he's an alien follower of Christ. He went on to explain that humanity at this moment was further away from God than ever before. Yeah, but there was still a good chance if man looks in the right place and he told him that he had been here with which intrigued the with intrigued Dr. Strange and is told that he had been involved as a private investigator for some time, even working at times on loan to
Starting point is 00:56:58 some of the government agencies. He learned that the science of fingerprints with the impressions of the lines and worlds on the inner surface of the last join out of each finger on the human hand. He told me him that all earth people were thusly marked since the fall of Adam in the Garden of Eden during the very dawn of civilization as we know it today. I don't know what I had to do a fingerprints, but I just
Starting point is 00:57:22 wanted to get that out there and I didn't know how else to do it other than just read that verbatim as well. It sounds like it sounds like something that was written in a time when that sounded like way more sci-fi than it is today. Like it sounds like like they're oh, they do use fingerprints. It's like, you know, I don't know, like seems like somebody thought fingerprints were like super high tech at the time. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it was the 50s.
Starting point is 00:57:44 It was 1957. So, you know, that's it's all like brand new. He goes on to like push him a little bit asking him kind of like weirdly giving giving valiant Thor like, are you actually a like a religious believer test discussing the merits of Jesus Christ, how Jesus gave his life freely so that we could all as humanity enjoy the benefits of eternal life. He questioned him about a Bible on Venus and he assured me
Starting point is 00:58:10 that a personal unbroken fellowship with the author did not necessitate the printing of a book. Oh, they're so close to God that the whole species. No, the whole species every venusian right is so close to God. There's no need for a book because they're basically akin to God for a book. I see.
Starting point is 00:58:30 Here's the thing. I would question that if I was I'd be like, you know, I'd be this is this is one of those like Captain Kirk. What does God need with a starship? This is me. I would be like in this guy's grill like hold on. You don't have a Bible. Well, then it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:58:46 There's no need. There's no need. This is a trap because he did. They chat. No, no, no, no, no, no, this is a trap. I got that God to God direct connect that face. I could rock that this is convinced me that if I was an alien, I was going to go to a world.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I would 100% learn about like one of their major religions and be like, oh, yeah, no, I'm totally in on that. And then I wouldn't. That's the easiest way to control the masses. Why? Why are you trying to control the man? So I'm an evil alien just like this guy. Oh, you're evil.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Just like this to this guy. I don't you know what? I believe he's real. I believe him now. You think he's like the talented Mr. Ripley of the whole. He's going to get us all to buy into a monorail or something. This guy's up to no good.
Starting point is 00:59:31 I don't like him. Well, you know, Valley of Thor found it amusing that there were so many people on this planet theologians and so on that were attempting to discredit both Jesus and the Bible. The very, you know, one of the things out here that a lot of people say is like, if God is real, why are so many bad things happening? You know, where's all his blessings and his gifts and the
Starting point is 00:59:55 very God that many assume here on earth that is dead, you know, no longer exists on Venus lavishes them with the good things all the time. And perhaps humanity in time will permit the spark of divine light to once again, illuminate their troubled hearts. No, no, that's what I got out of all of my readings. The Bible is that if you just believe then you get good things. I believe that's how that works.
Starting point is 01:00:21 If you just submit and believe, you get good things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what that sounds like. Exactly. Faith, right? But there's a little bit more to Jesus that we got wrong and what happened after Jesus's death here on earth. Sounds sounds like it. He actually pressed on to Valley and Thor asking what he
Starting point is 01:00:39 thought of Jesus Christ. And Valley and Thor said, quote, I know that Jesus is the Alpha and Omega of yours and everyone else's faith. He today has assumed his rightful position as the ruler of the universe and is preparing a place and a time for all who are called by his name to ascend far above the clouds to where his power and authority shall never again be disputed. Is this more or more horrifying to me by the way?
Starting point is 01:01:03 Like you get a planet and you get a planet. Scientology is similar, right? I mean, I just I have so many questions about. So Jesus rules the universe. Yes, he is the ruler of the universe. Okay, so the reason we are not in the universe Club of Jesus is because all the non Christians. And is that and does universe Jesus have a preference?
Starting point is 01:01:35 Does he like Methodist more or what is he? How does he feel about Catholics? I mean, that's tough question to answer when God is an alien. I just I mean, like, you know, is it like denominational? Is there a physiology? Yeah, Southern Baptist. How does Jesus work? Can we ask him that question?
Starting point is 01:01:53 Or does he is he like Jesus welcomes everyone? No, because when when he was told that what I just said, Frank's own heart began to burn and tears filled his eyes. Right. He knew that he spoke in eternal truth when it came to God. Why is it so weirdly religious? Well, it's it's weird to me that it would be. No, it's happening.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Okay, so, you know, there's a reason like this topic came up because of JFK and JFK stuff led to Castro, but also alien stuff. And then it all kind of backtracked to this stuff before it could get to the JFK alien stuff. But the big thing is this is happening today. Like this is a time where UFOs really hot and crazy and all over the place. And you kind of have two thoughts in terms of religion, right? Those who don't believe in those who are already saying they're not
Starting point is 01:02:41 UFOs, they're demons or they already exist. It's them. These people are trying, I think, in my mind, trying to take something that might scare them, that might be bigger than them, that they they're not sure what it is and trying to just simply integrate into their beliefs so that they can rationalize it away. That's just that's my own pet theory, at least partially. It feels like a little propaganda E where it's the idea of during
Starting point is 01:03:02 this time period, the 50s, 60s, 70s. There was that time period of like, oh, yeah, we're starting to see space and we're starting to think outside of planet Earth. And what are the ramifications of that? And is there life out there now? We're now at this time, too, to further that point. We're also now at the point where Operation Paperclip is getting us to space. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:03:21 We have Nazi scientists littered in our government like von Braun, right? Reverend von Braun, he's in there and he's like getting us to the moon. And for some people, I think it's just, you know, like that's where space is like right in front of us for the very first time. It poses questions that are uncomfortable that people have to face. And a lot of the time that uncomfortableness was like science. You can see it happening right now. Science is king and there and that becomes a pushback.
Starting point is 01:03:49 And so now just like during this time period, it was like, well, sure, maybe we're going to space and you all like science. But what if the aliens are into Jesus and science was wrong? And it's very similar to like right now. That's cool. Then then you're cool. It's very similar right now when it's like science, science, science. And then vaccines are killing us.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Yeah. And science is evil only through Christ. They're like, okay. All right. Sure. Yeah. As I'm saying, like I see so much of what's happening in this story. And a lot of when we talk about this time period, just moderately being repeated
Starting point is 01:04:23 today with the UFO sightings once again, kind of getting crazy. But now we have the government kind of like acknowledging that it's no different. It's no different than saying the earth revolves around the sun. Liar stone this dude, you know what I mean? Like it's except except over the years becomes less and less like kill people and more like propaganda. And his next part goes exactly to what you were saying. Jesse is like, well, okay, now space is in front of us.
Starting point is 01:04:51 What if there's other life out there? God said, you know, our Bible says we're the only ones that we're like the center piece of everything we're made after him after his image. And so when he did press him on other life, he did. You know, he did press Valiant Thor. And this is supposedly what Valiant Thor said, quote. There is life on many other planets of which the people of earth know nothing. There are more solar systems for which man has not given enough credit to God.
Starting point is 01:05:17 There are many beings that have never transgressed the perfect laws of God. Man does not possess the right to condemn the whole of God's creation because he himself has broken the perfect laws of God through disobedience. Here's the thing. Jesus fucking take out the God stuff for a minute. Take out like you broke everything else about that is kind of beautiful and sad at the same time. Like it perfectly sums up the human condition.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Just remove the bit where he's like you pissed off God to see more guatto. Yeah. Yeah, everything else is like, yeah, you know what? Maybe we don't deserve to be part of the the galactic community. And like, maybe we do have to work out our own shit. And like, like all of that checks out. And it's like, yeah, but no, you just don't believe hard enough, which is what what came out.
Starting point is 01:06:00 What came out first? The day the Earth stood still or this? Oh, I don't know. When the day the Earth stood still would be the 51. OK, so OK, so that's absolutely what this is. Yeah, a holy God version of it. It's literally somebody was like, what if the exact same thing that happened in the day the Earth should still happen
Starting point is 01:06:20 except it was a Christian and I'm not and I'm not trying to like and I want to put this forward to like I'm not trying to shit on Christianity or anything like that, this particular story. One of the reasons another reason I really like focused on this particular story is because it's been covered a lot out there in the worlds of podcasts and videos and articles, but it's always from the angle of like, what if it's real without really talking about without actually without really talking about in detail, the really religious and like,
Starting point is 01:06:48 I think kind of like almost a frayed man's angle from this who is also trying to make a ton of money. And I think that's way more important because it's all wrapped and inevitably in indecent and separately wrapped in religion and to look at the valiant store story without diving into the religious angle is doing the story into service period and silly and it's goofy and it's clearly a work of fiction. But it's, you know, people look at this because aliens and they're like,
Starting point is 01:07:15 oh, it might be real, that kind of thing. And it's just important to look at the facts behind everything. I actually love what you brought up earlier, Alex, about like the previous things that would have come before this. I just went to go look because I was like, when was War of the World and book form that's late 1800s. But then you have like audio drama and stuff. But then also you have things like in 1912, a princess of Mars, right?
Starting point is 01:07:41 You have all these books and ideas of what space is and all of it, like Princess of Mars, like all of it's a little erotic, a little like sexy alien ladies. And so, of course, you're going to have the like on Venus, we are religious as a shit and Mars. We don't talk to those people. They're awful. But Venus, we're right with Christ.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Like, and you can see kind of like pushback of it and selling it. You have a built-in audience. Like, you know, when you talk about, oh, yeah, the jobs we do and the things that we do, everyone talks about like a built-in audience. Like if you're trying to sell stuff to like a religious community, you have a built-in audience of people who want to believe that Jesus is hanging out with people on Venus. Yeah, and another thing we're actually going to get to here is like,
Starting point is 01:08:27 there's a part of me, too, that thinks Frank kind of made a very has-at-at half-assed attempt at making his own kind of cult and one that were like centered around him and he was special in all these things. You just didn't have the oomph, the pizzazz that a lot of other cult leaders have. He's very boring. You can go listen to his interviews and he's got that nerd voice. That you just can't get rid of.
Starting point is 01:08:49 And like, he just didn't have that onstage charisma. And I say that because if things went slightly differently for him, I can see this man, we've done so many true crime things on cults and serial killers. I see echoes of it in some of the writing here and I'm going to get to that like in just a minute. He, when he, when he was, when Valiant Thor said all of that stuff about the disobedience of God and whatnot, the next concern
Starting point is 01:09:13 for Doctor Stranges was what would he, what would Valiant Thor do if the military decided to prevent him from the leaving on the day that he was appointed to leave? And Valiant Thor calm and smiling simply said, Frank, do you remember one day after Jesus arose from the dead? He had gone in search of several of his followers. They closed themselves in a locked room and suddenly they saw Jesus standing in their very midst above them.
Starting point is 01:09:37 He smiled and looked over to then over to the Doctor Stranges and said, need I say more? Why would he know about the backstory of Earth Jesus? Does Jesus like brag about all of his exploits? It's all part of the plan, bro. This is one time, bro. It's all part of the lit. It's all part of the lit.
Starting point is 01:09:54 They showed up at a meeting, dude. They thought I was dead, but I wasn't dead, dude. It was amazing. We could see other Bibles when we unlock the secrets of this one. Right. But his meeting was about to come to an end and Doctor Stranges was about to leave. But before he left, he said one last thing.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Valiant Thor said one last thing to him. Please keep your faith and leave the same way that you came in. Continue to seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all other things will in time be added to you and yours. Goodbye for now and God bless you and keep you always. Okay. To Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night. Obviously to Doctor Stranges, he left shattered in a good way.
Starting point is 01:10:40 His heart was full yet heavy. He didn't know what to do with this information. He was astounded, but also heavily encouraged that everything he believed in was reaffirmed. He began to wonder who'd even believe him once he began to tell this story. It's too crazy for anybody to believe even considered not repeating the story to anybody.
Starting point is 01:10:59 But of course, the more he thought about it and more importantly, the more he prayed about it, the more he felt felt that this was too great a blessing to keep to himself. Right. And so he began to pour forth the interplanetary knowledge that he was able to attain from Valiant Thor, not only about God in science, but obviously also about Frank. He actually stated Valiant Thor stated to Frank that his book
Starting point is 01:11:24 Sasserama could not have been written without heavenly guidance. And that's where I was like my first red flag after reading this book. I was like Sasserama is the most God like book ever written better than the Bible. I was like, oh, this was your attempt to get sell so many more. This is like Sasserama. You have to read Sasserama.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Oh, God. I've got it's admit you have got to read Sasserama. His instructions via via via God dammit. I keep saying Valiant Thor's instructions were to leave Washington, D.C. No later than March 16th, 1960, which was exactly three years after the day that he landed his ship, three years at the moment after his meeting that there were less than three months during
Starting point is 01:12:14 which he could confirm confer with scientists, politicians, military, military men and so on. And they all of course missed his point entirely. They were all filled with self ambition and cared little for the pressing needs of mankind, which is so if you have a literal alien living in the Pentagon for three years, do you like you really would just disregard everything he said? Why do you even have him live within the Pentagon?
Starting point is 01:12:39 Three years. Why doesn't he just say what he has to say in like a few days and go? It's just like weird internet mysterious details that barely makes sense. It's so weird. It doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. Valiant Thor brought about his best efforts to try and bring
Starting point is 01:12:55 about an end to the sickness and disease that plagued the planet, but was met with resistance and refusal from our God. I told you once aliens, we don't want it. I don't trust the government anymore. You must. I got to read Sasawama. God, he's the only one that has the truth. He was told and by he I mean, of course, Valiant Thor was told
Starting point is 01:13:15 over and over again that his presence and his ideas were a threat to the political and economic structure of the world. That sounds like Nixon. Now I believe it. And even certain religious leaders were also fearful of losing grip on the people in the event that his presence was admitted on an official level. So see, he's even wrapping in other religions to pull from their base.
Starting point is 01:13:39 He's starting to write the idea of like, I have the truth. Do you remember when we when we did way back in the day that three-parter on that serial killer where his dad was a preacher in like the early days and he like splintered off with his own version of Christianity that he tried to rally and just kind of failed doing. That's what this feels like. He's trying to tap into that UFO fervor to build his religion.
Starting point is 01:14:03 It's like a very interesting way of getting to become a mega preacher, I guess. It's very bizarre, very J.R.P.G. I guess the valiant Thor all this was so super disheartening. The administration failed a layhold of such information that could change the course of human activities for the good because of economic reasons. You know, money and capitalism drove us away from from saving
Starting point is 01:14:29 being saved by the religious aliens. Obviously, security regulations were super tight. It didn't really matter because valiant Thor could come and go as he please. And they played and valiant Thor would disappear and teleport out to go meet Dr. Strangest over the next three months to give him all of the information that he was to foretell.
Starting point is 01:14:53 And that's we'll pick up next week with the last part of valiant Thor and his meeting and planetary interactions. I love this. Yeah, dude, it's a two-parter. I'm not going to start. Hey, start 2023 without a two-parter. And well, he's going to, you know, Nixon is still got some part to play.
Starting point is 01:15:14 There's some secret CIA files that we'll talk about and obviously more pictures of valiant Thor. In fact, we'll be talking a little bit next time about some flying saucers that were photographed over Africa. I'm going to give you a quick teaser of that right now. I'm ready for this. I'm ready for this story to kick it up into like scary. Don't get like it's not good.
Starting point is 01:15:36 I mean, I don't know if it'll scare you, but it might it might scare you a little bit. But again, it never really took off. His his whole attempt never really took off this. This looks a couple drops good stuff. That's not an egg. That's a flying saucer over South Africa. Chili Crips sauce poured over a fried egg.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Yeah. Well, next week we'll talk. We'll begin with all where the meetings began, how it all went down and photographs of flying saucers over buildings throughout talking about the Vatican's time machine on the mini so sign up at patreon.com slash Illuminati pond. Thank you guys so much for listening. We appreciate you.
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