Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 192 - MODERN DAY ROSWELL

Episode Date: February 19, 2023

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meeting less and doing more. Get on board at Miro.com. The first three boards are free. Forever. That's Miro.com. Hello everybody and welcome back to the Chiluminati podcast episode 192. Boys it's our fifth anniversary today. We'll talk about here in a second. I am one of your hosts Mike Martin joined by the Vic Reeves and Bob Mortimer of LA Alex and Jesse. Oh man. Oh that's sweet. Why am I definitely Bob Mortimer? I think I'm Bob Mortimer. Honestly. You think I'm slick enough to be slick Vic Reeves? I think anyone would be. Vic Reeves. You know these guys? I don't know these guys at all. I have no idea who

they are. They were also known as Reeves and Mortimer where a British double act consisting of Vic Reeves obviously. They have written and starred in several comedy programs on British TV since 1990 with Reeves having made his first TV appearance in 86. They have often been referred to as the modern day more common wise. There you go. It's a sequel. Today is a sequel. It's the 90s reboot. I have to ask who is the audience you're trying to reach with? Are we trying to build a British audience? Is that what we're trying to do? Maybe. We are. We have a big British listenership actually. There's no other explanation. That's the only one. Do we have like, do we get

market analysis that said we really got it? Yeah I went deep. But only like 45 to 55 year old Brits. We need to bump that. We need to bump that. I'm gonna, yeah I'll give you like we, we actually have like, we're all. People who know who Bob Mortimer is. I think, did demographic. I don't know. Maybe. I think Dean knows who Bob Mortimer is. So that's fine. I think anyone will agree that I'm the Bob Mortimer. Yeah. Here's the thing. Bob Mortimer is looking like a little more slick than Vic Reeves. According to this one. Slick. Yeah, like modern look. Either way. I don't see. I will say this. I don't. It's not out of slickness that I'm making this assertion. No, sure, sure, sure. I'm just saying if like,

if you're going for like the goofier one, I don't know what, why do you choose Mortimer? Do you like the name Mortimer because it's goofy? All right. All right. No, he's just weird. He's a weird guy. The thing that I, that I just like about this, that I'm going to say this as an American and you know, my taste is, is preferable. Reeves and Mortimer is way better than the fact they call them Vic and Bob. Yeah. Yeah. Vic and Bob. Yeah. If you look online, they're known as Vic and Bob. No, no, no. Reeves and Mortimer is way better. No, I don't know. Mortimer and Liza is kind of neat. Mortimer sounds like some kind of performing animal is what it sounds like. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. In that context. And aren't all men just apes, performing apes?

Think about it. Put that in your brain. That's my whole, that's my whole brand, to be honest with you. Performing apes. Yeah. I'm like, when the orangutan, he takes the sunglasses from the person and puts them on. Yeah. You're that Pokemon. Uh, orangutan. Oh man. I forget his name. Oranguru. But to be fair, boys, what I was trying to get to initially is London is our number two city. Just straight up London? London. It's in our top 10. What's number one? Unknown. Meaning people probably use VPNs or something. Aliens, dude. It goes unknown. London, Chicago, LA, New York, Seattle, Toronto. So London number one. Just the city of London. The UK, yeah, just the city of London. The UK accounts for 11.1% of our total listenership. But that,

I would assume, is almost the full 11. 11% and the point one is the rest of the UK. 11% is just London, I would bet. Well, our top cities, London is our number one. If it's number one, I have to imagine all 11 is right there. Places where it is, places where my lifestyle is in no way diminished or changed by moving to an entire different country. Yeah. Yeah. The other point one is like, I don't know, nodding them, burming them, something like that. I wish I could look at like a detailed breakdown of like where in the UK people are listening. Probably a big circle around London. Probably just like a circle around London. But if we could get like where in London, do you think we could

get into like, you know, where the rich people live in London and then they could pave stuff? I think most people in London can't even get where the rich people live in London. All right. All right. Last question. So our number one, our number one country is US, our number two is UK, our number one city is unknown, and our number two is London. What do you think are like alien satellites, bro? That's fine with me. I'm fine with that. We'll be talking about that here in a minute. But what do you think, boys, are number like on the bottom of the list that I that I'm given number 20 city and number 20 country like bottom of the top 20 city. Are they the same? They're not from there. Not the same. No. They're not. This city

is not in that country. City. I'm going with Dallas, Texas, and country. I am going Luxembourg. I'm going to go a city Buffalo, New York, that country. One of the northern European ones, let's say Finland. All right. Interesting guesses. You said Dallas first, Alex. Dallas is actually in our top 10. It's number eight. Goddamn. Luxembourg isn't even in our top 20. Jesse. I don't think it's in many top 20s. That's very, very true. Jesse, you said the top 20 smallest countries. For country, Finland. I think it's on there. Finland is in our top 10. They're number 10. They are number 10. What was the city you said? The Finns are with us.

In your city was what? You said Buffalo, New York. Not even on the top 20. But our 20th city is Brisbane. Shout out. In our 20th country, the Philippines. You know what? I was going to say that probably somewhere in like Southeast Asia, because that also shows up a lot. Yeah. 19 is Japan. Really? That's hype. That's 0.3% of our listenership, but it's probably like U.S. soldiers stationed over there. But what if we get the Japanese audience and then somehow get paid to go to Japan and then I can eat a hamburger from a vending machine? I'm with Jesse. While drinking some glass coffee. That's not what I want to go there for.

I'm out. I was out after he said hamburger. I want fish. Make Japan so popular. It's where we go do our Halloween special every year. That'd be fucking, Halloween of Japan would be sick. Question of the day for our Japanese listeners. Now, what if we went for that, that dick festival? Yeah. That's where we belong. Yeah. Question of the day for our Japanese listeners. Are you Japanese? Yeah. Yeah. Are you on a U.S. army base?

Or are you a citizen in Japan? Let us know. And if you're a citizen in Japan, are you an American who moved to Japan because the anime titties were too delectable? Or were you actually Japanese and just get to enjoy anime titties every day? You know, they're never going to admit to that. So just be like, did you enjoy the culture? Just say culture. Have you seen the thumbnail I did? Did you not see the thumbnail I did recently for Dark and Darker with the most enormous anime tittie girls in the world? I don't. I don't watch the internet. No, I don't go there. That's fun. You know what? I don't also watch our Patreon.

You don't watch our Patreon? Well, that's good because I do. And I can tell you that it is the center of what makes everything at Chiluminati go. And if you like our show and you like the idea of us doing more things, I just sent an email to someone just now. I'm not going to tell you who, but it was a step forward for the brand. Let's put it there. So you know what? If you want more things like that to happen, more cool things for you to be able to watch, do, see, be at, head on over to patreon.com slash Chiluminati pod where not only do you get ad free episodes, you also get a mini-sode after every episode that sometimes is just irresponsibly long. Sometimes it's, they're supposed to be 15 minutes. Sometimes they're stupidly long.

I feel like the past two months in particular, we've had like one or two 15 minute ones and everyone else has been long. We've really been loosening it up. Yeah. I don't know. I know I'm going to say that and then this one's going to be like 14 minutes, but like, you know what, whatever, it's a good mix. It's a good mix. There's also Rotten Popcorn, our movie show, where we have tons of movies. We just talked about it just a second ago. We're watching Stargate tapping, tapping on the movie show Rotten Popcorn. We're watching Stargate. Papa Mathis is going to learn. That's what's going to happen. And you can do all that stuff right now. Not to mention some fine art, Papa Mathis. Yeah. Can I write brand as Papa Mathis?

I knew you were going to be like, I like Papa Mathis. Papa Mathis of the Chaluminauts. Oh, Papa Mathis of the Chaluminauts. Now you're, now you're a sex cult guy. All right. There's a Netflix doc already in the making about you. In another universe. That's what I'm doing. But see, my sex will be great because there's no end of the world. It's just about the sex. And as long as we're having sex, the end of the world is pushed off another day. That's a terrible one. It's coming to Papa Mathis' house. Yeah. Well, not in this universe. Not in the universe where I'm running that one. Yeah. But not this one. I'm not, I'm a taken man. I'm sorry.

Yeah. All right. Let's, I'm not, let's join my calls. Yeah. Yeah. Where it's airplane themed. It's called the cox pit. I welcome everyone. I'll be your captain this evening. Airplane themed? Airplane themed cult. The cox pit. I'll be your captain this evening. What kind of things are there? Rule 34 airplanes. I want you to go ahead and rule 34 airplanes right now and learn. We just like flights. It's like an airplane with a dick. No. So it's, is it sexual? This is one of those really long, one of those really long fuel refueling things in the front. That long nose cone. Yeah. In Zoom, boys. Here's a link. That's the letter N.

You just dropped the capital N in the chat. I am typing. I'm hitting control V and N is. And for anyone wondering, it's literally just a capital N. I don't know what you're doing. I don't know. Okay. Here we go. That's just preference. Click on that. Don't make me click on this. What is this? Click on it. Yeah. It's just airplanes fucking. Yeah. Is this your call? That's not what we're about. We appreciate airplanes and it's related to my cards. Okay. Here's how Miro works. See, it's amazing. What's everyone doing at David's desk? Ever since marketing started using Miro's collaborative online whiteboard,

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Get on board at Miro.com with three boards free forever. That's M-I-R-O.com. All right. I like the U.S. Navy one. She's got huge jeans. Yours is just the airplane fan club, basically, is what it is. It just sounds like it's about to do it. But it's not about the sand. What was that? It just comes along with having the last name Cox like it does all the time. Yeah. I mean, like, yeah, it's what you get. Yeah. Okay. Well, thank you, Patreon. We ended up here. It's my fault. Honestly, though, but really honest to God, thank you, Patreon, because, boys, we have been doing this for five years on the 18th on Saturday, which is the day I'd like to put this episode up just because it is our fifth year. Yeah, five years. We marked the five-year

half a decade. That's fucking asking the hard questions. Sometimes the questions nobody wants. Finding out the answers to the big secrets. Like the Green Stone. Saying disgusting shit about cryptids. I don't know if we say disgusting things as much as we just say true things. Your truth is different from mine, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Before we begin today's episode, what is one thing you have learned or how is part of your actual being changed? Thanks to this podcast. I'd like you to start with Alex. I think that thanks to the support that we've received. God damn it. Shalu and Adi Bond. That I'm able to make searching the unknown my real job. There's not been one thing that's happened to me in my life that's been more

creatively inspiring and exciting than getting the money for everybody. The money has also been absolutely transformative in a way that is really just, you know, more than like sending me to the next tax bracket is just like really showing me that I should do more stuff that I really like. Yeah. Yeah. It's nice not to be at poverty level. Yeah. I'm just saying like it's nice that I'm making a good living off of doing something that I really respect and think is cool and that is neat. That's all. Well, what a heartfelt answer, you know? I appreciate that. So my turn. Yeah. Yeah. Jesse. I learned a lot of the bitches. The covenants that want to take me in. We learned that we learned

that that is not true. First off, that's not true. I made a call out and redheads left. They weren't even around. But more importantly, what I learned was about myself and how that I could have known someone for years and never know that they willingly tried to sell their soul to Satan for abilities and powers. Yet even knowing that I can still remain in a podcast with them for years and it'd be fine. Acceptance. You know what? I learned a lot about myself, really. I appreciate that. I learned that I'm a giving soul and kind and accommodating to the insane needs of others. All right. All right. We're helping out. And the better we get to know, then the better we get to know math is the more sensitive. Right. That's what today is all about, actually. That's

what today's episode is all about. I know we said we were going to do Wild West Cannibal. But today, I just felt like I needed a decompression episode because it's now or never. It's now or never. This past week has been insane and I want to scream and I'm certain the people I've been screaming at are sick of it. And so I need to scream at you for at least like an hour or so. And you all know where this is going. You know, you all have been prepped prior to this episode as to what we're talking about. But before the government comes out and throw some water on it, the past week in terms of, well, sort of, we'll get to that because the wording they're using and then the wording the news is using is different. Then that's why I'm

like, what is going on? Anyway, UFOs have been being shot down out of the sky after the Chinese balloon incident, which was a Chinese balloon that was not something weird in like a UFO. It was actually a Chinese balloon. A few days later, we picked up a UFO in Alaska, of which I think avoided getting shot at or like was it moved weird or something. That one is a particularly unique of the three. Then we got another one over Canada that we shot down, followed by another one over Lake Huron that we shot down, and of which we can find the wreckage for zero of them. We don't know where it is. We've been looking. I've been following trackers showing the grid patterns. Airplanes are actually moving in those areas and where they're looking. And this is all very,

very important because we are essentially living through what I would consider our modern Roswell, not because it's aliens, but because it's all the same exact shit that we talked about. It's a flap with a capital F. Yeah. When we did our Roswell trilogy, go re-listen to that. It was in like a long time ago now. But a lot of the same things that happened then are happening now, with the government coming out with a couple of different announcements very, very quickly that contradicted each other. A few days of weird silence and press conferences that answered nothing. And then all of a sudden narratives are coming together. But still, there's some differences between what the government is saying and what media is saying. So with that all kind of put

out there, I want to talk about these three UFOs, the weird UFO flap, why it's happening right now, and what we think about it or kind of our takeaways from it. I'm just going to say out of curiosity because I've been screaming at you via text all week long. Oh, yeah. So I'm more curious about your thoughts first before I start diving into more of the nitty gritty details that some people might not know. The reality for me is that it feels very, like, scary in a way. Yes, absolutely. None of the answers feel good. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, like, common sense says that it's probably not aliens, right? Like, just based on probability, right? But like, sure, exactly. Yeah. That's like something I can't even there's no way to process

that right now. There's no like the idea that it might be being from another world visiting us and we're making contact. Like, you know, that's that's beyond the realm of like something that we can get our minds around right now, because like my friend was saying the other day, they could be tiny, they could be psychic water, they could be fucking, there's a million question marks when it comes to extraterrestrials or extra dimensional beings or whatever. It's not really worth thinking about, but the other things that it could be, you know, the terrestrial things that it could be, whatever it is, it represents some sort of political strife, right? Yeah, whether it be a threat to our safety or some sort of anti upping by, you know, a nation like China or Russia,

trying to just like so discord in the world of Western politics, you know, there's a there's a lot of things that it could be that are really plausible sounding that make me feel very like not not sleeping well. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. I get it totally. And well, we'll talk about what we know about each individual one here in a second. But I agree, like for the most part, the answers are not pleasant to think about one way or another. The what's interesting, well, you know, to give to maybe to put your distress at a little these the lake here on one, I think is the one we only know definitely what it was, or at least have a very good idea of what it was. People think because they the cockpit audio

of that jet that went by it flew by it. And he says it in the audio, I'm going to call it a balloon. You can definitely see strings hanging from it below. That's from the New York Post, like two hours prior to this podcast being recorded. So it's new. I think that's a bold definitely. Well, some people say I think it's I think it's good to say you could see something dangling from it, right? Yeah. Well, the kind of thought is that because this is the octagonal one is that it might have been an octagonal ice fishing net that wasn't properly staked down and blown away in heavy winds is the current theory that's being tossed around. But but people are people are like, I hope that's not true, because we dropped an eight hundred

thousand dollar on eight hundred thousand dollar worth of missiles on the down the thing to take out a tent. If it is, it is two sidewinders. Yeah. But you know, it was in within our already, it's you know, it's within our airspace. It's not identifiable. It's got to come out. It's got to go. It's got to not be in our airspace like whatever the issue with the again issue with the story is that the core of where that tent story came from, the tent it being a tent was from 4chan. And so and there's actually information of that contradicts the timing of which one that would have happened where the ice net blew away. So again, it's muddied. It's muddled. But yeah, regardless, before Babel, Jesse, what about you? What are your thoughts at the moment?

I am not concerned at all. I'm not stressed or worried. I do think it's problematic. So you know, starting immediately with the first thing was a balloon. It was very obviously a balloon. You can see the various solar panel things underneath it, which is hilarious at the moment that the same people who say solar power sucks are also like this solar power machine could go forever. And the sun was making this Chinese object that was going to destroy America. And you're like, did you say solar power suck though? Like so it's a threat to the or is it good? It's good when China uses it. But whatever, at the same time that that's going on, there are these three other things. And I think the fact that it's three other things that are smaller,

and they don't know what they are, they still shot them down. And what's interesting is that the descriptions make them very, you know, they seem like miniaturized UFOs the way they describe them, which I think is interesting, right? But with all that said, still they're moving like 20 miles an hour. They are not trying to like get out of the way. There's no sign of intelligence in them. It very obviously could be babies, babies, anything, right? Like if you can travel through dimensions or space, you could evade a sidewinder missile, right? But apparently not. So to me, that rings more as being less Chinese government and maybe more. There's a lot of corporations and companies that do wacky stuff and don't tell anyone who could easily be that as well.

That's what the government said is like it may be private. It could be private is what they're, what they said in the last public kind of just press and briefing. And what's interesting about it, of course, is that once again, the government does themselves no favor. They shoot these things down and then are like, yeah, we're going to go recover the stuff and then we'll let you know what's up and everything should be fine. We'll give you some heads up on this. And then the next thing they're like, so it may never be recoverable. It looks like we'll never find it. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You shot it down specifically over certain places so that you could recover it. And now you're not, you can't recover. So to me, that's where, okay,

now that's worrying because that is where conspiracy comes in and where people are like, well, why, why can't we do this? And then my mind is like, okay, if it wasn't governmental things, it was private, why would they keep it secret if it was private? You know what I mean? Like, that's what I'm saying. What about private enterprise? Like, oh, is it because a lot of private enterprises have their hands in government? Like that kind of, again, while all this is going on, just to, you know, while we're talking aliens, a reminder in Ohio, a straight up train crashed. Yes. And released toxic chemicals that if you watch videos online. It's fucking horrifying. Animals in the area are dead. People live there. There's this woman, there's this video where she,

it's like on the news, she raises chickens, she has chickens in her backyard. All the chickens die. And it's like, bro, if the chickens die, that's like canary coal mine shit, like get out. We're going to be hearing, this is going to be a documentary on this crash. No one's talking about that right now. Because yeah, because the government is doing everything they can to tamp her down on how bad it actually is. It's all, it's all UFO stuff at the moment. And that's another thing. Yeah, exactly. And that's another thing that's kind of feeding into this is like, is it being used as a distraction? And I think, at least partially, yeah, absolutely. Is that the main reason? I don't think so. But I think it is absolutely the reason

it's being blown up like it is right now. All I'm saying is, this is where Jesse Cox conspiracy comes in. All I'm saying is a few months ago, there was a big to do in Congress about trains and unions and all of that. And in the last week and a half, we've had three train crashes, or maybe at least two. I think one might be a car that flipped over or a truck, but whatever the case may be, major leakages from trains. And a lot of it is because those companies did some real slick awful things. And if I was in government, I certainly wouldn't want people to know that I kind of let that happen. So I know that's very valid and logical. To make you even more mad, Obama put forward and wanted to make a lot to redo all trains breaks

from 2016 onward or whatever. And guess what didn't happen? Exactly. Hey, guess what didn't happen? Anyway, but we got to talk about UFOs. Literally the movies unstoppable. So with that all laid out there and kind of having an understanding of that, the reason that we are picking these things up out of nowhere isn't because it's out of nowhere. So after the Chinese balloon, basically, NORAD, which is the basically the combined efforts of Canada and the US and their shared airspace and their their permissions to like shoot down enemy objects over both airspaces, their radar basically can pick radar. The things with radar picks up fucking literally everything. So they have to create a gate, you know, a program that

filters out a lot of garbage so they can only get the stuff that's useful. After the Chinese balloon kind of floated overhead, they loosened up some of those restrictions on NORAD so they could on their radar so they could pick up more objects. And now that's why we're suddenly bing, bing, bing, we're picking up different things in the sky. So that gives you the reason it's happening. However, way back in 2017, 2016, we Christopher Mellon, Lou Elizondo, which, you know, again, we said we've make I particularly have mixed feelings about on him. Big Renaissance. Yeah, but Christopher Mellon way more, you can kind of like take way more seriously when they met with Congress with the initial meetings of things that they wanted to talk

about with UAPs and UFOs, the more secretive stuff. Basically, their big thing is like they're in like they kept trying to make it make it important impression to Congress that there are things in our sky all over the place and they've been there forever and you need to look like put more money to it, look into it, figure out what these things are. And they basically waved them away and disappeared. And that's why Mellon, he says, put forward the 2017 infamous UAP video, the one from the gimbal that got caught on camera and the other ones because they kind of just brushed them to the side. And so we instead of like kind of just trying to go about it more politically is just fine, we'll get the videos out there and just let the public

know and it kind of worked. It kind of may not have made as big a splash as I would have liked, but that's also 2017. Political tensions were really, really still high and only getting higher and hotter. It was not a main story. So now Christopher Mellon made a big post on his website about the recent things and he is talking about the importance of the need for these things to be kind of like loosened so that we can pick them up. He also talks about how like another thing that the press is ignoring is the complete bipartisan agreement on that major sweeping law that funds UFOs. Like it was not a one or two Republicans or one or two Democrats working with a majority of both sides. Both of them came together and it was fully, fully bipartisan

to give a reminder. Seems pretty damn real. It's very, very real. So what that does again for refreshers for everybody out there. This new law that was passed provides greatly enhanced authorities and resources in the AARO, which is the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office. That's the news office that is specifically for UFOs and stuff and UAPs in the sky. And that now directly reports to the leaders of the Defense Department and the Intelligence Community, no middleman, where people can fiddle with like the information or just bury it like it was prior. The organization's unusual name is intended to clarify that its purview extends to anomalous objects regardless of their location, i.e. land, air, undersea, and space. So it's just

all encompassing. That's why it's got a weird name. The mandate, it also mandates a review of all intelligence documents involving UAPs from 1945 to present. And for those who know their Roswell lore, Roswell doesn't happen for two more years. The reason 1945 is important and it'll be a topic we cover one day is the Trinity UFO crash, which is the UFO crash that came before Roswell that happened in the testing sites of the nuclear weapons we were using that has been very much buried, very much ignored, and kind of not talked about. And then Roswell happened, and then they couldn't hide it. So we're going all the way back to the Trinity UFO year and what the government knows about that. This new law also requires DOD, DHS, and the IC to identify any nondisclosure

agreements related to UAP and provide those to the new AARO office, which is again why we're suddenly seeing hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of UAP sightings that like they've gone way, way up and got off to look up his name. But a commander in the Navy says this is not new, that we've been seeing UAPs in the sky almost every day for two years, like two years straight. From 2020 on. What's fascinating about this is we exist in a world, I think we don't think about the world we live in all that often, but what truly is... No, we definitely don't. Every day, all the... Oh boy, this is going to sound like crazy conspiracy, but all the cell

phone towers, all the radio waves from a freaking radio, all of the things, we're bombarding with all this stuff. Yeah, I mean, dude, can we just talk about the freaking Chinese balloon and all the people who are freaking out about the Chinese spying on us and then they open up TikTok? Yeah, I mean, look, that's like everything. Same thing when you see people who are like, I don't want you spying on what I do on the internet and your literal internet service provider is already doing that, so they know you're looking at porn, you dirty dog. But like, China, there's that. China and the United States are spying on each other. They spy on private citizens of each other's countries constantly. That's the baseline.

There is, even if you just think about it, we have the world we have because, one, we all spy on each other, so we know in advance what threats are. If we weren't spying on each other, that fog of war, that's how people get killed. Which is why I find it hard to believe that we did not know that that fucking balloon was on its way into our fucking place. We definitely, we definitely did. We wouldn't have done anything until people, it was the same balloon or three other balloons flew over the country three times during Trump. They did nothing, but they didn't see it either, or they say they didn't see it. Either way, China's not over there blowing up our stuff. We definitely have a spy stuff.

And then you have all these things in the sky that are monitoring stuff, which is why air traffic controllers have such an insane job, right? And then above that, you have all these satellites. This past week, there was a thing about a Russian satellite, I think, where the Russian satellite, they were terrified that if they destroyed it in space, all the debris would just wreck all the other satellites. There's so much stuff going on, and we don't think about it because we're kind of in our own shit, dealing with our own stuff and our own community. There's all these other things. So when we get a taste of that, we're like, oh, oh, yeah. And then it becomes a little bit shocking and jarring to us. And suddenly we're doing conspiracies and everything.

Sure, there can be conspiracies. I mean, I have a lot of questions about, I'd love to know more about how everyone be spying on everyone and how they wanted to send shit unless people on the ground saw this thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, it's like, we'll continue through the laws here in a second, but that point kind of like tangents into another like thing that makes this whole situation very confusing. When it was a Chinese balloon, we screamed it was a Chinese balloon from the goddamn day we knew what it was and never stopped calling it out. These, for whatever reason... Well, we probably asked them and they just said, yeah, that's us. But like, these, for whatever reason, we have nothing. They won't say if it's a drone.

They haven't told us anything. Which is more important. Did you see the video I sent you guys last night of the senator coming out of the briefing and what he was saying about it? Now, granted, let me just lay that question out. The problem is that with that video and I guess, I think it was today or maybe it was last night, a general was talking about this as well. And it's all the fact that I think people hyperanalyze verbiage and usage of words. And this dude said something along the lines of like, these are not, like these ones here are not, uh, aliens. And people were like, so what about the other ones, bro? If you're just saying these aren't, and it's like, oh boy, here we go. It's like that kind of thing where now everything is being said

because they didn't tell us anything. And they clearly weren't honest with what they knew. The general said he wouldn't answer if it was extraterrestrials or not. He said that was a decision for the intelligence communities below him. Just saying. And I'm saying, but that's important because he didn't say no. He said, I'm not, I can't answer that. I don't know. And that keeps people, that does fuel the fire. A hundred percent. Even people like me who try to temper their expectations. I cannot help but hear that and go, why did you say it like that? And all it does is continue to lower and degrade trust in a government that already has extremely low trust, which is why everybody's saying like maybe it could just be, that could be the goal.

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realize. Like it's been going on forever. Exactly. And that is like duh. Yes, the U.S. A.P.s have been in there forever. Yeah, we have stuff. We've been talking about on this show every time that damn dude flies over L.A. Jack Skellington. That dude's been on over L.A. numerous times. Of course this stuff goes on all the time. But this and this is where I go back to every episode where we ever have like Bigfoot or cryptids. We have now the technology to capture this stuff for the first time where they're just like, oh, yeah. Oh, geez, it's been going on for a while. So now every time I see a blurry photo of Bigfoot, I'm like, bullshit. No, not real, because you can't tell me that we can shoot. But what about the clear ones that you're like costume?

Yeah, well, that's fun. I want you to genuinely think about this, though, because that's how it is on like for people, blurry photo, garbage, fake, crystal clear photo, hoax. There's no there's no sating the people that are going to be skeptical. And that's good to a degree. We need people to keep temperature of the room. Crystal clear is because you can see the fact that he's wearing like a Dr. Zayas mask. I don't know, man. That photo we saw of the last Bigfoot didn't look like a fucking suit. It looked like a mask, dude. It didn't look real at all. You know, all right, all right, all right. Anyway, we're getting off topic. But the but it's like, yeah, this has been going on for decades. And yes, a majority of them are not going to be alien.

They're going to be any number of things in the sky, whether it be private, whether it be spy balloons, whether it be trash that has just gotten scooped up and pulled into the jet screen. See, this is the problem, though. And I don't know if it's a fallacy because it case kind of true that if even point zero zero zero one percent of them could be an alien, then well, you're literally leading exactly to where my sentence is going, which is right. But there is about five to 10 percent of these reportings according to what the government has let us know that cannot be explained the way they move, how fast they move, that kind of thing. But yeah, the majority of things are going to be unfortunately really boring garbage, you know, or that falls into the idea of

if we can't explain it, it must be X. But I'm not but that's I'm not falling into that fallacy, though. If you are, I'm saying the general like community of paranormal. No, it just means we can't explain it. It moves in ways that physics shouldn't be like physics don't apply. There's a lot of things that they do where they hover the recordings of the especially during the Cold War in the fifties and sixties of the UFOs going over the nuclear sites, fucking with electronics, arming the nuke and then shutting it down and leaving. We have documents of that happening, and we have documents of from Russian government. The same thing happened around the same time, like a couple of days later. But but those are the ones that are like fascinating doesn't mean

it's aliens doesn't but we don't know what it is. In that, which is why these laws are so important and it does this law does two more things. It directs the new office, the ARO office to develop a UAP science plan to assess the sometimes mysterious and mind bending capabilities being reported as well as a collection plan to leverage America's vast technical intelligence apparatus to determine where these objects are coming from and their capabilities and possible intent. This aggressive UAP investigation is like this is what we've been needing to do for a long, long time. It's I'm glad it's happening now, but at least you know they're really throwing a lot of fucking money at this. And then finally, this law again fully bipartisan provides a secure process

for anyone who has signed an official US government secrecy agreement related to UAP to come forward and reveal that information to the ARO and to Congress regardless of the level of classification without fear of retribution or prosecution, which is like the big one, which is why, you know, so many didn't get reported back in the day because it was just like the government went out of its way to make UFO sound silly and it worked like UFO the word UFO had to be returned by the government to UAP because UFO is such a poisoned term. It's because that's what they wanted it to be. It's so American that like all the things that happen like this are from people being like, let's just tease it. Let's just make people hate it. Let's just in bad faith undermine it

so that it goes away. You know what I mean? That sucks. Right. It's yeah, because now it makes it difficult to talk about this thing and make it as serious as it should be. It's hanging over your head right now. It's hanging over your head right now. It's been hanging over my head for such a long time, Alex. You have no idea. But I just mean like even on our podcast where we talk about UFOs and Bigfoot having sex and stuff, like the alien stuff, it's crazy that your stuff seems crazier than my stuff. You know what I mean? I'm talking about all this dumb made up internet bullshit that's definitely fake and weird and it's all kind of like, oh, let's enjoy it. Yeah, yeah. The Valiant Thor is not real. I'm sorry, guys. Valiant Thor was not an actual alien.

He didn't come from God. But the idea but the idea that like they are real and the government's covering it up is like beyond all that crazy, never true, you know, the stuff that, you know, only weirdos talk about. I think still that if the alien if the government rather knows aliens exist, one, it's one of two things. One, they simply know and know nothing else. They haven't been contacted. They've just got enough evidence from them to make a conclusion that that's not from Earth. Or two, they genuinely just don't fucking know period, which I'm more apt to believe with how our government works that they genuinely just have zero idea. But instead of being transparent with their citizens and being like, we don't know, they just keep bouncing it and using

weird vague words and terms and like sort of saying we don't know. But also it's national security threat. So if you know it's a threat, how do you also not know what it is? I don't know. You know, it's fucking annoying. And, you know, to that, I want to read a little bit, a little very small snippet of Christopher Mellon's post. And we'll remind you who he is in a second. But he basically says the lack of media coverage of the UAP issue and congressional UAP legislation over the past two years is now causing many to view the recent incidents over the last two days as something sudden, new and different, perhaps even shocking, when in fact, Congress to its great credit has been keenly aware of the issue the last few years and has been taking

extraordinary steps to get the intelligence community and the DoD to reveal what it knows and diligently investigate these prolific intrusions into some of the nation's most sensitive airspace, like our test ranges, air bases and nuclear facilities. And, you know, that's also true. The media, maybe like if this has been going on, the media has never fucking covered it and the Ohio thing might very much be the reason they're actually doing it now, you know, they're actually putting it into the front. But Christopher Mellon, again, goes on to say this and I also agree, I very much doubt any of the objects recently brought down by the USA Air Force have an extraterrestrial connection. Most are probably balloons. However, the object that reportedly

interfered with US fighters over Alaska is highly unusual and may prove to be a Russian or Chinese electronic warfare or spy platform, or perhaps, albeit unlikely, a probe placed there by an extraterrestrial species or a subterrestrial species. Although most UAP- That's a wild thing to say. Well, that's why he said highly unlikely. He said it's highly unlikely. Yeah. Although most UAP likely have conventional explanations, some demonstrate capabilities that seem inexplicable, inexplicable without reference to a more advanced nation or civilization.

And that's where, like I say, like Jesse just said, like there's a hand, like a group, small percentage that are just non describable. But the one over Alaska is different because it's fucked with things. It did things to our equipment. It did things to our planes. And then we shot it down and we can't fucking find it. You know, we don't know where it is. So we have no answer or we found it and nobody, the government's lying. But I, you know, it could be either fucking or it's either one. And again, this is all, this is all fact because we just recently talked about might have been in a mini-sode of the Amua Mua. Remember the giant thing that it's trajectory makes no sense. And Jesse was going through the article and stuff.

Yeah, like, yeah, like that was very recent as well, where like the way it arrived made no sense. And the way it left made no sense. It didn't fit any of the scientific things. The only theory they were put forward about that was like gases heating up on the potential asteroid and like exploding and sending it off course, but like there's no, they don't have like a hard evidence for that. It's just kind of like thrown out there. Yeah, it's very, very bizarre. And that's kind of where we're at in terms of government law with where we're at in our acceptance of this shit. Um, I just, it's, uh, man, uh, I'm just going to stop babbling and put it to you, uh, now, but I don't, there's just, I have like nine thoughts all competing desperately to come out of my mouth.

All right, one at a time. Just give me, Jesse, with having heard all of that, do you feel that this in Alex, uh, that this recent event, that even the Alaska one might be something that we don't understand? Or do you think it also could potentially be a spy drone or something? I don't, I think it's clearly Earth made. Again, I, everything that we've seen and heard and that's been discussed, the things they are sharing. And last again, this is one of those like, well, of course they're telling us lies. Um, it doesn't seem like it has any of the capabilities that, you know, when you're talking about they flew over nuclear silo and they did some stuff and then zipped away or, you know, they were tracking a thing and then it vanished, right? When, when you

see those things on video or you see like, you know, a plane's targeting system and then suddenly it's gone. That's different than this is just the thing and it's moving and they're like, we can't really tell what's going on up there, but we shot it down and, but it doesn't. We do and they did for both of these objects, flybys to get eyes on it first. Everything was seen first. I like, looked at first and it's still weird that if we identified it, we did flybys, we looked at these things and they're benign or trash, then why the fuck did we fire $400,000 sidewinder missiles at every one of them? Well, you know, if they are benign, which is the word they've used, why the fuck are we blowing them the fuck up? But if they are extraterrestrial or cyborg robots or whatever,

why are they out there just like, yeah, we shot down another thing. Don't worry about, don't question it though. It's nothing, right? Like if it's aliens, I'm going to take that, right? It's like, I'm going to run with that. Okay. I agree with you for the most part. Like, I don't think these are aliens. I will preface it. However, it's weird to think that these things, just because they're from another civilization, are indestructible, especially if they're unmanned probes that are simply sitting there stationary and observing and that's all they're there for. Why? Like we, if we have, they could believe blowing things up if the aliens are real and they've been showing up since we started making a nuke, then I'm certain like we could probably

blow shit up and maybe kill it. I just don't know if it's man if they're not there. Maybe. Yeah. I don't think, I mean, like I say, like it could be like a fucking balloon creature that, you know, floated at random into our dimension from nowhere. Like if we're willing to accept that it's any sort of alien, you have to leave the door open to infinity, right? Like infinity life possibilities, right? Yeah. But there's, again, there's that weird like balance, like you don't want to go all in though. And I would say definitely don't go all in on it, you being UFOs, but like just keep, I don't know, there's a lot to keep in mind and it all reeks of Roswell, the same shit just with new technology now instead. Yeah. But again, there's inherent problems with the whole thing,

which is why it sucks that it's so open for conspiracy because they're doing to themselves a little bit. The idea that it's just why do it if it isn't something that can affect national security in some way or air travel? Right. I think it's just a question. I think we have the money to do it. Our fucking defense budget is fucking gargantuan. Like what these, you're talking about these $400,000 missiles. But why now? Our defense budget has been huge for eternity, but only now in 2023 because because because there's a lot of global unrest happening right now. We have a lot of tension with China as much as Biden and Xi Jinping want to create a platform to do like politics going forward together as they both have stated they want to do. And I genuinely

believe they want to do. Tension is high. China is getting closer to Russia. You know, Russia is like still fucking waging a completely unjust war against the Ukraine. There's a lot of reasons why the United States should especially should be worried about things entering the airspace right now, especially just after the Chinese tried to get sneak a fucking balloon disguised as the moon across the night sky at us. You know what I mean? Like it makes perfect sense. But I think the real victory, even if, as we're saying, it doesn't really seem like these things are likely to be alien in origin, you know, in this case, except maybe that one that like was weird or the one and what's their one that like disappeared to that like. Yeah, they fired at it and missed it and they didn't

know where it went. Yeah. So the real victory is, I think the conversation around this is like surprisingly serious tone when it comes to aliens. And I think from that point of view, from the point of view of somebody who wishes that people are thinking about this with a more serious mindset and, you know, seeing people on TV who are real politicians and real analysts seriously discussing the possibility of aliens. That has been interesting. Yeah, is it extraterrestrial questions from the news is fucking weird. Even when it's not likely, as we have all agreed, basically in this case, that it's very like this is not like anomalous activity that is like definitely needs to be explained like things these craft we're doing,

except for these reports that we have in Alaska, right? And so for me, that's the thing that's the win is like, regardless of whether or not it really is, people are taking the possibility that aliens could be out there as a serious thing enough that the elected officials that are actually out there reporting on this stuff are being pressed to actually talk about it. So from that point of view, I would say, feel good. You know, I don't think I mean, that's a win. We're we're far and away, even from like a year ago, even from think about when we started this podcast and how UFOs were looked at and where we're at now, like the temperature on it has certainly changed. And I that is a win. I wholeheartedly agree. The the other thing that's

like interesting is after we started shooting these things down is that around the world, suddenly a bunch of countries were seeing things, including Taiwan, Singapore, China, Russia, and some Ukraine recently, I think today, an article came out and said they shot down six. Yeah, here it is. Six balloons shot down in Kiev, Ukraine, the Ukrainian army claims. So like they're all of a sudden, it's fucking everywhere. And it's it's happening all over the place all at once. But this is like one of those like context and content. And like, there's a it's because we're thinking about it now that people are looking for them. And so they're seeing it's like when you think about a song and suddenly it's on the radio. It's because you've heard the

song a million times. And it's kind of like bias. Yeah. Yeah. And so I think that's probably why because we're now looking for it. And more people are like, oh, damn, we should look up more, which by the way, we don't do that often. Just think about your day to day. How often do you just look up? Just put that in your pipe, smoke it a little bit. Let me know what you think. Cause just like how often do we look down? Like how often do we like stare at another person's shoes or like whatever? You know what I mean? We don't we don't stare up. We're all caught up in our own shit. And this goes to show just another off tangent topic thing. Hey, I know a lot of people think like, oh, people are looking at me or oh,

my like, oh, I'm looking weird. But no one, everyone's in their own damn head. Nobody gives up. No one cares. We don't know what happened. We don't look, we don't look up to the sky, let alone at you. You know what I mean? Everyone's doing their own thing, trying to make it through the day. And this is another example of until we take the time to think like, oh my God, there's so much stuff going on around us. We don't think about it. And that's why it's so interesting. We're here to see politicians and news reporters and people talk about UFOs and aliens and the concern in the country and do it seriously. It's fascinating to watch. It really is interesting. It is, it's very interesting to watch. I'm surprised Biden hasn't said anything about it yet. But

I think he has to be careful what he says right now. I, you know, that's probably very tense. Oh, so the White House, they had a press briefing yesterday or maybe it was early this morning. I don't know. I heard it coming into the office today, but it was a press briefing about it and all their quarters there when they talked about UFOs, they all laughed. So that's the problem, man. Like it's like, it's nobody takes, it's so poisoned and it's just nobody wants to talk about it. What's it going to take? Literally, then people will not believe until a spacecraft lands, aliens walk out and say, take me to your leader. And even then I would bet there's a huge chunk of people who believe it's an op by the government to cause us to look away. Like that's just where

it is. And that's just where we've been for years now. And I don't think it's going to happen. There's an even today about five hours ago, according to this, the US is now saying, we may never recover any of the debris of the things we shot down. They're right now being now that's crazy to me like that. That's weird that they'll never, they'll never. That's so. Yeah. Okay. Let's just assume it's a net. Okay. Let's assume it's a net. You know, you hit it with a missile, the net's gone. Right? I guess. Yeah. I mean, again, why if it was a net, why would we shoot a sidewinder missile at it? No, we didn't know. Isn't that we flew by it? We had pilot's eyes on every one of them.

I know. Everyone was seen. Yeah. But I just think that they're saying it still could have been a net. That's what I'm saying. But it also, it also doesn't make, I guess I don't understand the logistics of the military with this, because in my mind, if you're doing a fly by, you're like, okay, this is something. All right, we're going to scramble Navy if it's over water, or we're going to like get a helicopter, something else. They closed the airspace for a few hours. Do you remember that? Right. That's what I'm saying. Like if, and I get why they do that, because you're firing missiles, right? But still, there's a lot of weird. Yeah, it doesn't make a lot of sense. And that's the problem is because they aren't open and honest about what they're doing.

And they're like, well, secrets, you know, we got to like, for military intelligence, like all you're doing is making it worse, way worse. Second guess, everything you're doing, cut that shit out. Well, there was so much criticism about the Chinese balloon getting shot down that I think they probably just wanted to save face and just be like doing the thing that people want right now, which is to shoot down the fucking thing in the sky. Yeah. And they did whatever it was, they definitely shot the fuck down. It's, there was a shit. I lost it. I'll find it. It's an article I wanted to reference, but I don't want to talk about it until I get it. Oh, so the other thing that we could talk about, the other thing

is that so I sent you boys last night, a video of a senator after they were coming out of their classified briefing. And again, like Jesse said, people hang on to the weird way, what they perceive to be rather the weird way he phrases things. I don't necessarily think he phrases it weird. The three things that I walked away from from that particular video is one, he says, he says multiple times, they just need to come out and tell the people what they know and stop hiding what they actually understand and know and let them in on it. He then followed that up by saying, if the people are confused by what's happening, then we're all on the same page. And then he goes to say, at the very end of the video,

which I said before, this has been happening for a long, long, long time, and people just don't know about it. And at the very end, the weird ominous lock your doors tonight line, which is what people are like, what the fuck does that mean? People say it was a political play. I think that might be right. But it feels like Republicans are always trying to scare the shit out of you. Exactly. Yeah. And that's kind of where I'm at. That's just good for any of, if America is afraid, the Republicans are happy. But also, let's be clear, the guy you're referring to, I have his name off the top of my head is Senator John Kennedy. And he is cuckoo. Is he? Oh God, I don't know him very well. So he's he's he definitely has a lot. I

don't look up some of the things he said in the past. He's not. Yeah, he's not very fair. I will to cover my own ass. There were many other senators interviewed and they all said similar things. He's the only one that said, though, lock your doors tonight. That's why it like bizarre. But everything else that he said is is equivalent to all the other senators in what they said is like, just inform the people, tell them, stop hiding whatever the shit is. Right. When I say that when I say that he is like, he's notorious for taking these little too far. So that makes sense. That's the last line. That's the thing he does. Yeah. And so him as being the person's like lock your doors, you know, expected, he's he's playing loves doing

that stuff. So, you know, agreed. Okay, that makes sense to me now. Like if he's like kind of guy that likes to push the envelope a bit. But yeah, seven hours ago, the US came out and said that the debris may never be recovered because they can't find it. And that's kind of where that's at. So, like, I don't know, man, but the reason that's important is because that goes against another official that said some of their debris was already being transported. So two different, we have totally two different fucking things being said, which again, fucking resonates is like Roswell, it's just frustrating. And I just need to scream all of that out, get it out of me, like just offload it onto you, get your feedback so that I can stop. It's the classic feeling of

we'll see, right? Well, that's the shooting part is like, I feel like if we're not going to hear like if they know what this is, even if they have a better idea and they're not telling us, then we'll never know because the government is just never going to tell us the truth, like consistently held off, always keeping everything close to the chest and never letting the public know exactly what's going on, but only do but doing things like setting up the ARO and doing all these weird things and looking back and all the way back to 1945. It's not a unified body, you know? Definitely not. So I just need them to, I just like, like I said, I don't think they're necessarily aliens either. I just need them to come out and like clarify to the best of their ability what

they think is going on. So I'm not left because this is where conspiracy is bred. This is where it breeds like rabbits is this like insistent non transparency with the people and people who just can't control themselves are going to fill it all in with everything they already believe to be true anyway and find it, find reasons why this is more evidence as it is. And I just was like, I want it to be aliens. I'm not taking this as it being aliens. I just need them to come out and say what the fuck it is. Don't you wish that they almost like, don't you almost wish they didn't tell us till they knew more? Yeah, that's the other thing too. It's like, do we, if we shoot things down out of our sky all the time, why are we only now we're learning

about it? And they, it's like, just shut up about it. Just shut up. Unless you're going to fucking say something, you know, it's like, it's like, I almost want the cover up now. You know what I mean? Just cover it up. Yeah, man, let me continue doing my own research. It's just covering up to stop us from getting pissed off. And the stuff that gets out there, if they're likely trying to cover up, if it's a cover up, it's a cover up for the Ohio incident. You know, I mean, that's what it would be. That's a whole other, that's a whole other type of cover up, right? I'm talking about like, maybe they should just not tell us about things in our airspace that they've shot down until they have the debris and

they've had a chance to look at it. And if they can't recover the debris, maybe I just don't need the UFO in the atmosphere inside my brain space to think about all the time before I go to bed. You know what I mean? Yeah, maybe I want to come in. Maybe I want them to hide the evidence of aliens coming to earth. I don't know. Maybe it's easier that way. If you want to lose yourselves out there in a more of an alien rabbit hole and kind of want to know what the government may or may not be hiding from us or believe or think that's happening. I urge you to go all the way back to 1947 and go ahead and read the FBI report that talks about how interdimensional beings may be around us at all given time. Check out Project Blue Book. Start there. And also check out the new

comic by James Tinian Tinian, the fourth blue book, which is a comic about Project Blue Book. Oh, that's awesome. I was going to say it's hilarious, but no, that's actually like a great guy who does a department of truth. So get hype. Yeah. So there's right now, literally hour ago, it looks like Time Magazine has been updating and posting about this. The title under their science column is not everything is a spy balloon or UFO. Here's what else is flying in our skies. And it's them just going through the fact that like, yeah, so this is completely unprecedented that America just doesn't go to shoot down things in its own skies. Excuse me, all that often. And it also brings up the fact that maybe this is a little political too, because Biden didn't

immediately shoot down the balloon. Now, in order to avoid blowback, they're just like, if we see someone shoot it down, like just preemptively shoot it down. But one of the things that gets super interesting is they say that, and this goes back to what we've been saying the entire time, they also raised troubling questions about just how much hardware is flying around up there, what its origins are, and what its intent hostile military scientific benign might be. Just how do we distinguish aerial friend from aerial foe? We've entered this new phase and we're shooting down whatever the radar can see. What does that mean exactly? And then they literally just go on to say, you know, there are things up there all the time. And it's everywhere and

we're surrounded by it. And they are, there's constantly stuff in the sky. So, you know, I know, I know, it's like, if there are aliens adds the more that we're being just watched, maybe we're just a curiosity, a weird little zoo planet or something where the view chilled, because if we're shooting them down and they're not like moving, guess my guess is if they're alien, they're unmanned probes. You know what I mean? That would be what they are. I don't know. I don't know. And that's where we're going to leave it. I know, you know, we are, we are living through modern disclosure in the most fun way. Yeah, go ahead, Jesse, blow my mind. All this after the quantum ship, by the way, no, all after the quantum entanglement engineering

breakthrough. Oh yeah, I got you, my man. Get ready for this. What if the reason why they can't find the records, because there's no records, you just disappeared. They fired on it and it zipped away. And that's why they're like, oh, no, no, we shot it down. That's what happened to the other. We have, well, that's what we know happened to the octagonal shape one is they fired a sidewinder, they missed it, and then it vanished. Do we know that though? Do we know that? No, we don't know anything because the government won't tell us. They need to, God. Yeah, I'll leave you with that. Enjoy internet. Guys, if you need to help Mathis, if you want to help Mathis, hit the patreon.com slash Schumann.com. I'm going to be telling you about Stone Age tools. I'm on

so many meds, you guys pay for my meds. I'm going to find you some Stone Age tools to talk to you about. It's a mystery in Kenya. We're going to talk about it on the mini show. We'll see you there in just a minute. All right, guys, thank you so much. Bye. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the Trilluminati podcast. As always, I'm one of your hosts, Mike Martin, joined by the I don't know who they are. There's two. What? Terrence Hill and Bud Spencer. No. Neo and Trinity. No, I don't understand and I probably never will. Let me just tell you right now that there's two Leon Kennedy and Claire Redfield. I'll tell you, I think he literally just looked up famous duos. Cheech and chalk. And he's been going through the list ever since.

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