Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 198.5 - Jesse and Alex are SICK Minisode Compilation Special
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Well, my little joy of an arts and welcome to me self.
Hmm.
Hello, boys.
Hello, boys.
We're 94 and 95.
We're real close to 100, which is nuts.
I hope we don't not notice that it's 100.
No, no, I'll be aware when it's 100.
I promise.
I know you guys got some real cool stories.
So I'm going to start real quick.
Great.
Gentlemen, the alien topic is coming back to the forefront of
of conversation.
Again, people are thinking about it.
Not only that, but there's been another rash of sightings across
the board.
And today I'm bringing you one of those sightings.
A triangular UFO filmed over Ontario.
Now it's nowhere near the quality of the picture that we looked
at last week was, which was an incredible photo, by the way.
But it is it is interesting.
It could be a drone.
It's hard to tell with the way it moves.
And because there's a couple of lights that seem to move up front
and like sit in front of it like a point.
I'm going to link you the video here in zoom chat.
And, you know, they're filming with their phone the best they can.
It's hard to get a focus on something that high up.
But if you can skip through, it's only a couple minutes.
There's no, you don't need to watch the whole thing because
it's constantly them just trying to like follow it.
It's like an older couple.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
There you go.
It's pretty much just it's pretty much just here.
Yeah.
At forty nine ish is when like other lights show up.
Oh, yeah, right there.
Yeah.
And so the way what we're looking at here just for our listeners,
it's like, as you're typical, it's a really high up object that
could be a drone could be some sort of plane could be a plane.
The thing is, it's like three red lights in a triangle around
though a little bit.
Yeah.
Well, the thing is, it's three, three lights in a triangle
in the center of the thing is blinking red.
And then at some point, two smaller white lights tend to
move up front.
And the further the video goes, Jesse, as you watch,
they get further and further separated from the craft.
It's interesting.
I'm not saying it's alien.
Obviously, I wanted to be alien really bad, but it's just
another interesting UFO sighting that could be a number of things,
because worth noting again, another triangular shaped hovering
looking object that's not making any noise is just going above
them.
It's definitely giving me a different feeling while global
tensions are so high.
Yeah.
Agreed for sure.
It's definitely like activating my paranoia, like my paranoia
reflex a little bit.
But this is that one.
Ontario, by the way.
Yeah.
Oh, this is Canada.
Yeah.
Oh, that's real.
Canadians wouldn't lie about that.
They've never.
I don't think they'd ever lie about aliens.
Yeah.
Bigfoot all the time.
Aliens never.
Well, I guess we'll find out.
I mean, we're about to have this press conference and there's like,
it's like a public hearing, right?
Like you can sit in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's supposed to be tomorrow at 9 a.m.
That's just going to be like a circus.
I don't know what's going to happen.
You know, I'm expecting, in reality, I'm expecting what always happens.
Very little is learned and they're vague about everything else.
That's where we don't get to answer anything.
And we're still left with the same questions we were last time.
They said they were going to come out and like release a report about it.
That checks out.
I'll give this.
I'll give this clip like the craft, like the tree that's there.
Like it's very like a branchy, dry tree with no leaves on it.
So you can really see the detail as it passes.
And it's like, it doesn't look keyed.
It doesn't look fake.
It doesn't look CG.
I mean, that doesn't mean much in these days where you can just make
shit look real with CG, but like if that's CG, that's some good CG.
That's not bad.
I'll say that.
Yeah.
It's it's weird because we don't have a specific date or time rather for
when this was filmed.
We just know it was from a couple that was walking out in Ontario
and they were the sunset.
So it was the end of the day other than the UFO explanation.
There's a bunch of people online who have an equally crazy conspiracy
theory that I love and they believe it's what's the kind of bizarre
UFO special military class of aircraft called a TR-3B, which is believed
to be a secret spy plane that is said to be triangular shaped and some
believe powered by anti-gravity technology gleamed from a downed alien vehicle.
So that's another crazy conspiracy that people have.
That's the thing is is I'm more apt to believe that that might be a drone
of some sort.
It's just it's weird shape and the weird lights that kind of join it that make
it kind of looks like a little buoy.
It like it doesn't look.
Yeah.
It looks like it's like a little like I could like with one finger push it.
Yep.
Yep.
That's it really does.
It looks it looks interesting.
That's all I got.
Again, everybody aliens next this time next week.
I'm sure I'll be talking about how disappointed I am again.
But until tomorrow, I cling to the happiness that hope brings me.
I hope that everything I hope you have that.
I do.
I do.
And then I'll be sad tomorrow and we'll be back to square one.
That's tomorrow.
Yeah.
It's tomorrow because today they could actually tell us tomorrow.
Yeah.
Tomorrow.
They won't.
Schrodinger's.
What the hell happened to you Alex?
United States.
Schrodinger's official United States press conference.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I don't know what to call you.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm hit me man.
What happened?
I'm just ready for like a truly surreal thing to happen again.
Like everything that's happening lately just feels like it's not
really happening.
It's crazy.
Is it is it?
Is it coincidence that I love that the press conference happened
yesterday about the UFOs that I linked to the same day I did a bunch
of mushrooms?
Probably not.
Oh, not a coincidence.
I probably I probably willed that into being very interesting while
I was puking from being so dizzy.
Hell yeah.
Just like a true psychedelic explorer.
Dude, I didn't think mushrooms would trigger my motion sickness,
but I learned something.
Oh, that's just poison.
I just took too many.
I well, I ain't touching those suckers.
I'm good.
I had a I'm done.
Okay.
Alex hit me and Jesse.
Did you see before we go into this?
Jesse, did you see it happen to are you a witness to the let Alex
just tell the story?
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
So today we did a video on Jesse's channel with scary game
squad that was like the same as our normal shtick.
We are four of us.
We sit down.
We watch scary games play.
And you know, one of us usually playing one, but we tried like a
new thing where we were going to look at legitimately scary videos
and we admittedly just kind of did it by the seat of our pants
in the moment, just throwing whatever videos and Davis just
like wasn't having it like he wasn't meeting us on the level
of like this could be real.
He was treating it like a film festival of horror films made by
Liars.
Right.
And he was like enough because a lot of those online are sure,
but he was just calling it out and fun with it.
Yeah.
So I was like, listen, give me a second chance.
Let me let me like, like show you the true goodness and we'll see
we can scare.
And I found I found a list of things that like some of them are
real.
Some of them are hoaxes that are very scary.
Some things are like like Jesse brought that back rooms video.
Have you ever seen that?
That's like not real, but it's just scary.
Yeah.
Back rooms is a terrifying cool little piece of fiction.
I love it.
And I grabbed a bunch of great stuff.
But the last one I wanted, I almost put it in as a troll.
The last video.
Yeah.
This is like after like an hour of recording and the last one I
did was like as a troll, it was like, I was like, well, this isn't
even a video.
It's it's more of audio.
Okay.
And it is a archive of a very, very famous broadcast that
happened in the 90s that was on coast to coast AM with with Art
Bell.
Right.
So if you don't know what that is, that's like a late night
midnight show where people call in and talk about aliens and big
foot.
I would love to do something like that one day.
That's so cool.
Yeah.
Call and show at some point.
That'd be great.
That'd be a paid.
That's definitely a Patreon goal.
We'll need that.
Instead of Q&A, it's calling.
Yeah.
Let's do it.
12,000.
You think 12,000 we should do a once a month little call and
show.
I would love that.
I would love a call and show.
Shilluminati hotline.
Open lines.
They go to discord and then we have one of the two.
Not line.
Bring them in one at a time.
Yeah.
Shilluminati line.
I love it.
Oh my God.
1 800 Shilluminati.
Is this the there's been a bunch of cool calls on that show.
Is this the one where the guys like the phone got like cut out
multiple times?
Yeah.
So he's like, I just got let go from area 51 on medical leave
about a week ago.
He's like, they're not aliens.
They're extra dimensional beings.
And by this point, Davis is like getting scared because if you've ever listened to
this call, this guy is like afraid for his life.
Either he's like a real good actor and it's like a hoax put together by Art Bell,
which is what some people have said in the past.
But the whole deal was he was like, they're triangulating me.
I have to talk fast.
This is crazy.
They're going to find out and they're going to shut us down and he's talking about it.
And then right in the middle of that, it's famous because literally the broadcast goes
off the air.
Yes.
I'm like a full minute.
There's dead air on the radio.
It's not the call.
It is the literal broadcast on the radio.
It's dead.
Like no, which reminds me of a little bit of when we covered the crash of Corona Roswell.
And they would go to the news stations and they were like, you know, according to the
guy who witnessed it.
They were like taking all the footage and stuff.
So yeah, that kind of matches up.
If that's something that happened.
Yeah.
So we're watching that and I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm pointing out in the moment like, and listen,
this is like really the recording.
You can hear the like dead air, like the buzz from the from the amplifier on the dead air.
And then the music started playing for the like station restart.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
This is our bell.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that song starts playing and then it like stops and Jesse's like, is the song supposed
to stop?
And I was like, no, and I like grabbed my mouse and I was like, the mouse isn't moving.
Oh, no, the mouse isn't moving.
And the computer was completely frozen.
And I was like, this is insane.
What is happening?
And then, uh, I mean, listen, I work in the business of computers and video games.
I've never seen this happen to monitor ever.
I've seen a lot of.
First of all, this is the computer that Jesse's talking on right now.
This is like a top of the line.
It is never production level computer.
It's like a like this is a this is the one in his office in his studio is a nice computer.
And it and it crashed in the way that like if a computer got hacked in James Bond and
like the the screen gets all like it looks like jigsaw hacked the computer.
You know what I mean?
Like it's like all like it like turns dark and like shit like like fades down like the
icons like drip and it looks like almost like when you're trying to convince somebody
that they broke their screen by like putting a like a like a high res broken screen image
on it, you know, and then the other screen did the sad face and just like everything
turned off right like it cut out right at the moment in the broadcast where that's fucking
crazy.
Yeah.
Where the where the extra dimensional beings are coming and the computer was like, bye.
And everyone was like losing their mind and the entire time I'm just like, we lost all
of that footage.
Yeah.
We lost the footage.
There's like a five hour there's like a five gigabyte corrupted file.
So we're gone.
Totally corrupted.
So we have the audio.
We have the audio.
So I don't know.
We're going to see what we can do.
But I want to try and at least recover that moment because it was so wild.
So spooky.
That was like the most coincidental, like crazy thing that could have happened.
It's like lightning striking twice.
That's what Davis said in the moment.
That's nuts, man.
Like because that phone call is super famous.
I encourage everybody if you've never heard it, look it up.
You'll immediately find it.
Like you probably could type in Art Bell, the call and you'll probably pop up like.
Yeah.
It's from like the 97 or something.
And like, I know it was kind of like like on episode 150, when we had Pat on and we
talked about ghosts and we talked about aliens and I went to that psychic woo wee
woo spot when it came to that.
But that's like, I'm not going to lie, aliens are real.
Like I kind of maybe believe they might be more interdimensional than they might be
like physical things from another planet or the way they can and they know how to
travel technology is incomprehensible makes sense.
Like it very much makes sense to me to me again, that they might be extra
dimensional because just there's so much, there's so much we don't really
understand about our galaxy and the way physics really works.
When it breaks down to a quantum level, I just, I just think maybe I need you to
understand for the listeners, for you, Mathis, this computer is never once in the
three years I've owned it and upgraded it and changed out pieces and kept it top
of the line. Not once has this thing ever crashed. Never.
It's a real nice one.
Crash my fucking computer.
Come on, government.
I'm going to, this is going to go to Patreon and then it's going to go public like
crash my computer.
I've it's never happened and I'm I want it.
I was so upset not because it crashed, but like because we lost an hour's worth
of footage. I was like, you know what?
Maybe we'll do a deep dive on that one day if we can.
I'll try to do as much research as I can about that call that person, see what
they can find if there's anything out there.
I'm sure tons of people have already done it.
So I'm sure somebody's tried to, I'm sure somebody's tried to debunk it too,
because it is such it's smacks of like a publicity stunt because of how crazy it is.
But man, it doesn't seem fake.
Yeah, no, that's the thing.
Like you hear his voice and he truly sounds panicked.
He truly sounds afraid.
He loses the call multiple times as well.
And yeah, he's trying to like explain that they're not.
I wonder like a I wonder if I would believe it, dude.
I would believe it.
I want to be worth doing an episode about those like classic radio call ins,
especially like the guy who's flying over Area 51.
Those kinds of things.
The dude is kind of creepy 9 1 1 calls.
Yeah, that maybe work because then we could do to Australia.
Yeah, yeah, literally.
Yeah, I can I can definitely put that together.
That's a fun episode.
Yeah, I bet that could be fun.
That's nuts, man.
Oh, that's crazy.
You think? No, no.
Then my question is what do you two personally believe happened?
Do you think it was just a wild coincidence?
Like that's just an insane coincidence that happened then in that moment.
I think I had 18 things plugged in my power supply
and it probably died for the first time ever.
But with that said,
could have been an alien.
I don't know.
I was so I was so wiggled out by it that I like saw my neighbor.
I like drove home because we always record
scary games while in the middle of the night.
And I drove home and it was like midnight or something.
And my neighbor came around the corner
like I was like walking from the street.
And the moment I saw him, I just had to tell him about it.
And I was like, dude, and I like scared the shit out of him.
I just had to get it.
I got to get it out there, put it in the world so you're not living with it.
I felt like a crazy person.
I felt like Sam Dillon at the Mountains of Madness.
That's another one you got to watch.
I haven't seen it, but I do know the reason horizon, Mathis.
No, I don't want to ask me.
I don't know that I want to watch that again,
but like it's definitely I want it to scar you like it to scarred me.
Let's just play Dead Space instead.
You know what?
Hands down.
When the remake comes out, everyone come on over.
Let's just play.
Yeah, how down specials.
SGS with me around.
I can be brother, the cousin.
What it was, I cousin.
Oh, cousin, like the live show.
Yeah, yeah, we just live show.
What if we just played it all together
and had the greatest time ever?
We didn't even record it.
Holy shit. So fine with that.
Like, I'm totally cool with that.
What if wouldn't that be messed up and messed up
to pry the people of premium fucking selfish of us, bro?
I don't know. So selfish.
Well, that sounds crazy.
Let me know if anything else happens.
Have you had a last before we go?
Have you had any more weird ghostly
happenings in your place, Alex?
Or is that kind of like come to an end?
No, it's not come to an end.
We still hear stuff all the time,
but it's now at the point where like, I don't know.
Like it's freaking me out because like it happens a lot more.
Like earlier today, Kelly was talking to me on the phone
and she thought I was in the house.
Like she thought I had like got home
and was hearing me in the house talking to her
while also she was on the phone with me,
but I was like, not home.
You know, just like weird stuff like that or like a weird like
like I say, it's always it sounds like someone's just in the other room.
Like it's not explicable.
It's not like real.
Like it doesn't sound like somebody's like, hello.
I am like, it's just like I'm alone.
And I realize I'm alone
when I start hearing something in the other room.
And I'm like, oh, I wonder what Kelly's up to.
And then I'm like, wait, she's at work.
And you go in and check, does it stop?
I mean, it's never like I go in there and I'm like, ha.
But it's like I hear noise and then I'm like,
oh, someone's in the other room and that just is like it enters my mind.
Well, I'm like, you know, writing or something over here.
And then I realize I've been alone for five hours
and no one is in the other room and it just sends a chill down my spine.
I hope I experienced that.
I wasn't with a week.
I was there, not a damn thing.
I know, because I want it too bad.
Man, there's too much energy in the house.
There's too much. It was too.
It was too much commotion, probably.
Yeah, probably.
Well, thank you guys so much for listening
and thank you for supporting us on Patreon.
We'll be back next week with another mini.
So or the week after, I think we have to take next week off
because Alex is gone.
I'm pretty sure I'm in Canada.
Yeah, yeah. So we'll have something else for next week.
But yeah, we'll see you guys next week.
Thank you guys so much.
Goodbye. Stay Gold, Bonnie, boys.
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Hello my little chilluminats.
Welcome to...
Boo.
It's good to have you back, Alex
because last week all Crandor did was...
What the fuck?
What the shit?
It's what he's known for.
The great...
Was he the new Coke that I needed?
So that I could...
He was like a pixel Coke.
Pixel Coke.
Yeah, I don't even know what that is.
I want to eat that.
I want to have that.
It's grape flavored Coke.
What?
Yeah, dude.
It's not good.
Why?
Just Google Coke Pixel.
Here's the thing.
I love Welch's grape soda.
It's not that.
It's Coke that's flavored grape with Coke.
It's not good.
Coke Pixel?
What the fuck are you talking about?
I swear to God, it is like...
Yeah, okay, yeah.
Limited Edition Pixel Flavor.
Coke made for the gamer.
Like...
It really is.
It's like purple and teal.
Yeah, it looks dumb.
It's not good, dude.
Oh, it's called Bite.
That's right.
Yeah, B-Y-T-E.
Oof.
Coke Zero Bite.
Coke Zero Bite.
Hey, gentlemen,
we got to get into the haunted house business
because the Conjuring Home has sold for 1.5 million.
We need to just go do a haunted house.
You boys, I need you to find a place in L.A.
I've got two places in mind.
I'll send you the details.
You gotta reach out to them.
You gotta confirm, get me out this.
Send us the stuff
and I have a literal team here at the office.
I will get them on booking it
and flying Mathis out here
and then we will do it
because I'm tired of waiting.
I want to see you tower in the dark.
Me too, I want to do it.
I want to go to this house
and sit in a room and be like,
fight me guys.
Dude, I had...
I had another weird fucking thing happen to me last night
and it's fucking...
It's wakened me out.
Well, it's like little weird things
keep happening around the house.
And again, last night I was on the couch with Jess.
We were waiting until bed time's rolling around
and all of a sudden we hear
what sounds like a cardboard box fall off the counter
and it sounds like a weighty cardboard box.
You do have animals though, yes?
That's what I'm getting at.
It's like my cat always knocks things off.
It's like his thing.
He likes to knock things off the counter.
So I immediately both look up
and we're like Oliver and we look around
and Ollie is sleeping next to us on the side of the couch
and Blaze is our other cat
and he's sleeping in his tree
and the dogs are in their crate in bed for the night.
I get up, I walk over
and there's the box with like hot glue in it
that fell off of the crafts table.
And I don't know why.
And I can't tell you if it was super close to the edge
because I didn't see it.
It hadn't falled all day or the day before.
It wasn't being used in like two weeks.
So I don't know what, why, how, what.
I don't know, I don't know.
And it's very, it's like those things where it's like.
Genuinely freaked you out.
It didn't, yeah, I wouldn't say it scared me,
but it's like, yeah, it puzzles me.
It's very, very weird.
And it looks like that.
That's the second thing that has been knocked over
where both cats could be accounted for
and there was nothing near it.
And I don't know why.
And it's, I'm not, it's.
I'm gonna say squirrels, rodents.
Yeah, maybe a possum in my house.
Yeah, like yeah, I don't possum in your house, yeah.
I'm gonna say you have latent psychic abilities
that you don't know how to control.
Oh God, do you think Satan actually gave me powers?
And I just didn't tell me to wait a month.
I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say hard no on that one.
You're just waiting around for him to show,
you're waiting for him to like show up
and give you an instruction manual
and you just never tapped in.
Yeah, maybe, oh, cause I took mushrooms that one time now.
And I just, I just, like the big no.
Yeah, yeah, like exactly.
Like when Rogue kisses that boy,
that was you taking mushrooms.
Yeah, exactly.
Or when I become, I'll become dark Phoenix.
Oh yeah, there you go.
I'll say, I'll kill, I'll kill the world.
I don't know if I'm gonna do that.
Solved, good job.
Yeah.
So that's it, I got just like weird little things.
It's all I really wanted to talk about that
and we could have made 1.5 million
if we just sell Haunted House.
Who bought it?
Just someone?
Let's see, I can actually find out for you.
Just like someone who wants to live in a beautiful house
and doesn't believe in ghosts?
Maybe, let's see.
A home in Rylan that is now the legendary series
Peer-Ber-Ber, located in the community of Baraville.
That's so funny, cause that's my town.
That's where I'm from.
I lived in Baraville before I moved.
Wow.
Yeah, yeah.
The harrowing account following,
okay, who bought it?
Okay, sold, they were paranormal investigators, bought it.
So they're gonna turn it into a museum, huh?
Cory and Jennifer Hynes and Joe out of it
and sell it to a network like we live here
at our dumb house.
Oh, that's a good idea too.
Yeah, I don't know, they flipped it.
They flipped it?
Yeah, now a new paranormal enthusiast,
Jacqueline Nunez, who has agreed to buy the home
for the 1.5 million, which is 27% more
than the initial listing price.
What the fuck are you guys up to in Rhode Island?
What is going on over there?
That is Rhode Island stuff.
That state is fucked.
Don't go to Rhode Island.
That state is so screwed.
I had a good time when I was there.
I gotta be honest.
I had a great time.
It's a weird little state,
but that's where I grew up is Rhode Island.
And I just remember in college when, what's this fuck?
The pitcher from the Boston Red Sox started that game studio
and basically bankrupted the state
because it took loans.
Yeah, her chilling.
Thank you.
Yeah.
And and I just remember I remember I was just started going
to New England Tech for a game design and that they the
graduating class the year before had all basically been hired
for 76 studios or Studio 78 or whatever they called themselves.
And then they went under like a year later
and everybody lost their job.
That game they made is actually a good game.
It's not bad.
Everyone says I remember it was actually a pretty good game,
but it's super weird.
It's super weird, but it's pretty fun.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, that's all I got.
Who takes next?
Well, go for it, Jesse.
Sure. Hey.
I know we often talk about like what's out there in space
or potentially underwater in the deep parts of the ocean.
But hey, looks like it looks like we're still discovering
parts of the world you can like walk to what today in the news.
This is a today thing.
Researchers in the UK and Germany using laser technology
discovered ancient cities in the Bolivian jungle.
Believe me, new ones believe to be built sometime between
five hundred and fourteen hundred AD, and they've been just hidden
in nature for centuries.
No one's just no one's got to look the dense vegetation
concealed it from above so no one could see it.
And I guess on previous surveys of the area,
people just didn't go there.
But this group of researchers using an airborne laser technology
were the first to chart it out.
And I actually have photos for you, gents.
That's like my greatest dream is to like go somewhere
no one's ever found in like thousands of years.
Yeah, that'd be really cool.
These are two of the photos of the laser guided.
The first. Wow.
Yeah, the first photo, you can see what it looks like from above,
which is why no one found it.
And then the second photo, you literally can see
the pyramid and then the roads that are built.
And you can see a complex.
Yeah. Yeah. And and perimeter.
Yeah, you can see the whole thing there.
And they were saying that.
Their their findings published in the journal Nature
show proof of a permanent settlement in the area from pre Hispanic times.
The settlement features towering terraces covering 54 acres
and equivalent of 30 football fields and 69 feet tall pyramids.
A vast network of reservoirs,
causeways and checkpoints spending several miles was also discovered
within the findings that that they shot with this laser.
Apparently, this whole thing challenged the notion
that the Amazon was untouched or pristine,
but rather was the home to like an urban setting of indigenous peoples.
And they're just a quote here.
They said their monumental structure is just a mile apart,
connecting by 600 miles of canals, long race, causeways,
connecting sites, reservoirs and lakes.
So this was like an actual place where actual people lived
and just the forest ate it up after they were gone, which is awesome.
Says a lot about nature, man.
Like it's fucking nuts.
Yeah. It's crazy.
I thought that was super interesting.
Just saw it today and I was like, oh, look at this.
So yeah, I would love to I would love to like check in in like three years.
Yeah, I'm actually concerned because they discovered this
that what's going to happen is that this part of the jungle,
the rainforest, we're already losing so much.
People are going to very similar to if you have ever seen what Chitzenica
and Mexico look like 100 years ago versus today,
they literally dug out the entire complex, the whole fucking thing.
Yeah. Yeah. Like they couldn't it looked like a mound of dirt.
They dug it out and it was all of these amazing
pyramids and structures and stuff, which is very cool.
But they straight up like destroyed the land to do it.
And so I'm a little like, I wonder what's going to happen to the Amazon.
But it is fascinating as sort of like a archaeological discovery.
So that's pretty neat.
That's super cool. Unbelievable.
Like I said, I'm excited.
Like Alex said, I'm excited to see kind of where we're at in a few months.
Yeah. For years.
What do you got, Alex?
So I tease this lightly.
I said I'm talking about JFK.
And the reason that I am is because I am officially chosen
what the first JFK episode is going to be about.
And OK, OK.
And it's going to it's going to be kind of like a
irrefutable type of episode, which I like.
So it's going to be it's going to be a Jesse proof JFK episode.
I'm here for it. It's going to be I'm going to call the episode
Jesse and JFK, actually, because it's too perfect.
And I'm thinking about it.
Don't just have an end up on a some sort of wanted poster.
You'll see. You'll see. You'll see what I mean.
But just to just to give like a soft preview of what that episode is
going to kind of be like, I have a memo to read
for you guys that was from November 25th, 1963,
which is three days after Kennedy was assassinated.
It's a Justice Department memo.
Nicholas Katzenbach, who is the acting AG at the time,
wrote a memo to Bill Moyers, who was an aid of LBJs.
And this is this is word for word with that memo says.
And I'm just going to read it to you and you guys can draw your own
conclusions from that, which is going to kind of be the theme of the first episode.
November 25th, 1963 memorandum for Mr. Moyers.
It is important that all the facts surrounding President Kennedy's assassination
be made public in a way which will satisfy people in the United States
and abroad, that all the facts have been told and that a statement to this effect
be made now. One, the public must be satisfied that Oswald was the assassin,
that he did not have Confederates who are still at large and that the evidence
was such that he would have been convicted at trial.
Two, speculation about Oswald's motivation ought to be cut off.
And we should have some basis for rebuting or rebutting thought that this is
thought that this was a communist conspiracy, or as the Iron Curtain Press
is saying, a right wing conspiracy to blame it on the communists.
Unfortunately, the facts on Oswald seem about two pat, two obvious Marxist,
Cuba, Russian wife, et cetera.
The Dallas police have put out statements on the communist conspiracy theory
and it was they who were in charge when he was shot and thus silenced.
Three, the matter has been handled thus far with neither dignity nor conviction.
Facts have been mixed with rumor and speculation.
We can scarcely let the world see us totally in the image of the Dallas
police when our president is murdered.
I think this objective may be satisfied by making public as soon as possible
a complete and thorough FBI report on Oswald and the assassination.
This may run into the difficulty of pointing to inconsistencies
between this report and statements by Dallas police officials.
But the reputation of the bureau is such that it may do the whole job.
The only other step would be the appointment of a presidential
commission of unimpeachable personnel to review and examine the evidence
and announce its conclusions.
This has both advantages and disadvantages.
I think it can await publication of the FBI report and public
reaction to it here and abroad.
I think, however, that a statement that all the facts will be made public
property in an orderly and responsible way should be made now.
We need something to head off public speculation or congressional hearings
of the wrong sort.
Nicholas Katzenbach, deputy attorney general, item is restricted.
Interesting.
So that's just a real document.
And I think there's a couple of ways that you can read this document.
I'm interested what you guys how it's landing to you, because I think you can
take it as sort of just like a very generic memo that's like,
let's not let this get out of hand, right?
But it also has this vibe of like, there is something here that we don't
want the public to discover and that it should be very clear, very fast
and very quickly that it's obvious that it was Oswald who did this
and we want to put all speculation about that to bed.
I truly I still truly stand by the theory that Oswald did take
shots, he made his attempt and one of the one of the Secret Service
got spooked when the first shot happened and he accidentally pulled the trigger.
Like that is something that there's a lot of evidence toward and hopefully
we'll look at that when the JFK series goes against to that point.
But yeah, I think that's probably what they don't want to discover is
that the killing shot may have came from one of their own.
But I think Oswald also did hit him with a bullet that didn't actually
like necessarily kill him right away.
Yeah. So you're saying that there may be some genuine sort of not mundane,
but like just sort of like less conspiratorial reasons.
Yeah. Yeah.
Imagine if that was actually the case that would have destroyed the nation
in a business like a really, really rough way back then.
And Oswald, I am in the boat that he was taking shots.
He was trying to kill.
I don't think he was like a plant or any of that shit.
I just think he was I mean, he was going off to the USSR at the age of 19.
Attempting to give himself over as an agent of like a double agent.
Right.
Thing is, he had nothing of value for them.
Like he just got sent back home.
So he definitely was.
I definitely think he was.
But I just think.
So how does this hit your ears then?
It makes sense.
I think it's my ears the same way where like there's something
that they probably don't want us to know.
Well, like, do you think this memo is a smoking gun?
Or do you think it's just like a more to be a smoking gun?
I don't think it's too.
Yeah, I don't think I think it's it's more into the evidence pile
that there's something being hidden.
But again, it's hard to know what they're implying without seeing the document.
Sure. What do you think, Jesse?
I mean, I have all the plausible things that could have happened.
I think Mathis's idea, to me, makes a lot of sense
because it's also something you wouldn't want people to know about.
It's embarrassing because yeah, it's embarrassing.
And so you'd rather come up with a way to try to explain it.
But there's also just a lot of other factors
that are unexplained in that version of the story.
You know what I mean?
So there's like a lot of things that it's just again,
it's a mystery that there's a reason why it keeps coming up over and over again.
Yep. You think there's still a secret to be found?
Real talk. You think there's still something hidden?
Like I would be absolutely
stunned if there was anything insanely secret that they're hiding.
I think it's something more mundane.
It's something that if we ever get like an official report
when we all see it, we'll be like, oh, yeah.
All right. You know.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, we'll see if you're still singing that tune.
When my JFK series, my alternating on and off JFK series,
finally uninterrupted begins soon soon.
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To minisode number 96.
To minisode number 96.
To pull episodes away from minisode 1100.
Oh.
What's gonna be the 100?
I don't know.
Did we already decide?
I feel like we already made a decision.
I remember we were doing 69 jokes.
What's 100?
Oh, we're almost at episode.
I mean, if you think about it,
we're kind of close to episode 200 of the main show.
I don't want to think about that.
Here's what I want to think about.
How about for minisode 100?
And you guys can feel free to shoot this down.
What if it is 100 minutes long?
What are we gonna do for 100 minutes?
I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know, but what if, as a large,
what if minisode 100 is 100 minutes long?
And it never comes off of Patreon.
Each of us brings five articles.
100 minutes.
This is a workable idea.
I think this is very workable.
Each of us brings 10 articles.
100 minutes.
25 articles.
Yeah.
100 minutes long minisode.
You know what?
I'm not against it.
That's all I said.
I am against it.
I'm very against it.
Okay, if the minis, if minisode,
how many, how many episodes is that?
What, till then four?
Yeah, we're on 96, right?
This is 96 right here.
Okay.
If minisode 100 is 100 minutes long,
I, we have to wait a little longer
for me to put out a JFK episode, but I could do it.
If I have the time to prepare a 100 minute long episode
of Chilumnati as a mini-sode, I'll do it.
Episode 100, 100 minutes long.
All right.
Well, I'm not against it.
I know Jesse is, but he's being unmoved.
I've never been more against a 100 hour,
100 minute episode.
Okay.
100 hours you say?
It's gonna feel like 100 hours to me, that's for sure.
Get ready for the best time of your,
the best 100 minutes of your life.
That's gonna be the title.
Jesse, just stream as we're recording it.
That's what it's gonna be called.
I'll just like play team fight tactics or something.
Well, I don't believe that you're not playing.
I don't believe that you're not playing
team fight tactics right now.
If you told me you were like vampire survivors.
V-Rising or whatever, yeah.
V-Rising is great, first of all, it's very good.
Boys, I think one of us, maybe all of us
have to go sign up to be a priest.
What?
Do you just go fill out a form and bam, you're a priest?
I think that they need us to.
And I think we're qualified to do it because...
Who are they?
The Catholics.
No.
This comes from May 28th.
This is from insider.com, May 28th.
Yeah, burnt out Catholic exorcists
complain they face long lines of possessed people
and little support from bishops.
Here we go.
A survey from a Vatican approved religious university
in Rome found that Catholic exorcists feel overworked
and under supported by bishops
according to the times of London.
Italian, what?
I said, ugh, sounds like bishops to me.
There's a lot of demons happening.
Yeah, always hiding behind the other chess pieces.
I know what it's like.
Italian exorcists spoke to researchers
at Regina Apostolorum's 16th annual
exorcism course in Rome,
attended by 120 participants, the Times reported.
The course attracted a significant crowd
thanks to Pope Francis' support of exorcism,
the paper said.
He has previously spoken about helping those
who are possessed by evil per the times
and made exorcism an official Catholic practice
according to the independent.
The conference's exorcists said
that they needed more support from psychologists
to determine whether people are mentally unstable
or demonically possessed, the Times reported.
Yeah, because that's a lot,
that's like a new rule that showed up
in the think of the 50s or 60s.
Again, my history might be a little off
that they no longer can perform like exorcisms
on possessed people until psychologists have ruled out
it's a mental illness
because they too many freaking people died
from mental illnesses when priests were trying to exorcism
and so they like starved to death
or all these other things
because they were actually experiencing like seizures
and true mental illness.
So yeah, they can't do exorcisms without.
I think I'm against this now.
Yeah, Father Giuseppe Bernardi claimed
to have performed a nine hour exorcism
on a woman who hurled abuse in Latin and assaulted monks.
The woman's father thought she was suffering
from a psychiatric problem,
reported the Journal of Vincenza,
but the mother and later Bernardi believed
she was possessed by demonic influence.
Bernardi said that he had to seek help from psychologists
to determine whether she was disturbed or possessed,
but did so without the help of the church.
The lack of support from bishops is a grievance echoed
by other surveyed exorcists
and they complained about receiving little help
in exercising the long lines
of Catholics claiming satanic possession.
And it goes on and on saying COVID-19
has made it really hard
because there's not enough people out there.
Italy alone has 290 exorcists
and they were 37 in Spain, apparently.
Yeah, many of the potentially possessed people they see
in Spain have spent time
with new age spiritual or meditation groups.
So everybody out there doing yoga
and listening to new age humming music,
simply opening the doors to say stop.
New age humming music.
Yeah, that's not what it's called.
It sounds like the hallmarks
of careless spiritual behavior.
Yeah, obviously.
And you're gonna unlock the door to Satan's dick
and you're not gonna get powers.
Is it gonna do that?
Yeah, well, new age humming and meditation.
What qualifies as new age humming versus normal humming?
I think if you're humming with like Enya in the background.
If you're like,
That song is a classic.
And you know what?
Definitely a gateway to Satan, for sure.
Yeah, that's gonna get so vast.
Absolutely by Enya.
Yeah, that song is by Enya.
Can I, this is another detour,
but it's fucking happening in my house, by the way.
This is another.
Nothing's happening to your house.
Nothing's happening.
So last, another mean, me and my girlfriend
were hanging out in our living room last night.
The cats were with us.
We heard a large loud bang come from the kitchen.
It sounded like a box hit the ground or whatever.
She looked at me and I looked at her
and she simply said,
I don't, she just looked at me and said,
I don't know what the fuck that was.
So I got up and I looked,
there's nothing on the ground.
Nothing got knocked over,
but it was loud and clear as day
and there's zero evidence at all.
And I just, little things keep happening
that are just frustratingly,
like just fairly explainable,
like under some very peculiar circumstances,
but not.
You feel like it's too close together.
Suddenly become very active, let's say.
Yeah, I feel like one thing is happening a week.
It feels like kind of like something around there.
It's so weird.
Just another update on you.
Something like, you need to get a camera ready.
You need to get like.
Yeah, yeah, no, I know.
And I know where I would like set it up,
but like, it just, it was just a noise.
Like, I guess I just,
I guess I should just set up like my camcorder or something.
Do you have a motion?
Do you have like a motion program?
No, but I could get one.
Maybe one you can set up with a webcam to just.
Yeah, I mean, I can't imagine they're expensive.
I would love to see what happens.
I would love to see.
I would love to see.
Never voices, never knocking.
It's always just, it sounds like a,
like I have the pressure on the bed,
which I haven't had in like two or three weeks now.
And things like falling off the shelf
and now like just like a banging noise.
Do you have a K2?
I don't feel scared.
No, I don't have any of that shit.
Unfortunately, I gotta get a break.
Are we gonna have to go to your own home and do it?
Maybe I took home something from Alex's place.
I don't want.
I hope you took everything from my place.
I don't want to have to go to your own home
and be like, there's nothing here.
You're crazy person.
I want to go to your own home.
The activity, if it is truly activity,
it's not enough to be like, let's do a ghost hunt.
If I start seeing things, then we have an issue.
Oh, then I'll show up and be like,
oh, you're giving, you're freaking out my friend.
Fight me ghost, get out of here.
Yeah, yeah.
God.
Yeah, that's it.
That's been weird, man.
It happened last night, a noise.
So ghost corner update.
That's what we got.
So it's your ghost corner.
Still the same things, has it lessened?
It's just sounds like.
Sounds, yeah.
Yeah, like, I don't know.
Like I hear like people moving around in my house a lot,
like not like bangs, but I hear like somebody moving,
like walking around in my living room is what I hear.
That's weird.
See, that would scare me if I heard like footsteps.
Yeah, it's like, it's like not just like a sound.
It's like somebody is over there doing something
and I don't know what it is.
So it feels like somebody's looking through my records
in the other room.
Maybe doing this podcast and starting
to draw some shit in, man.
Maybe it's finally starting to work.
I wish it was aliens and not ghosts.
I want to be abducted.
Baggers can't be choosers, man.
And let's be honest.
Let's be honest.
You're a beggar when it comes to this.
Dude, I am a beggar.
You know what?
I embrace it, you know?
Cause like when the aliens do eventually take me,
they're not, they will never have had
a more willing participant.
Just so weird.
It's just such a weird sentiment.
I love it.
Whatever, I embrace who I am.
I love it.
All right.
What do you guys got?
Anybody want to go start doing exorcisms?
Is that we're going to leave that?
I think we should try and actually do,
when we do an investigation,
we should try and do some sort of a cult ceremony or ritual.
I want to try and summon a succubus.
I want to exhaust every avenue of like trying
to contact the supernatural.
You know what I mean?
I'm not writing anything off.
If something works, I don't care what it is
because if it is something paranormal, right?
It could have a paranormal origin.
You know what I mean?
We got to be thorough.
So bring it all on, you know?
It's like if Zach Baggins can do it for 26 seasons
and still be alive, we'll be all right.
We're definitely going to hire a medium.
Like don't worry, we're going to do this right.
But yeah, don't worry, it's going to happen.
I'm going to try and get Davis to come too.
That would be awesome.
Okay, here's what I got.
First of all, we're going to have to take this article
with a little bit of a grain of salt
from a website called Oddity Central
by someone called Spooky.
The ad on the page is like taking up one third of the screen
and it's like a one-handed like telescope night vision scope
and the caption is the creepiest gadget ever.
But according to this article,
dissociative identity disorder is something
that's similar to like the closest thing we have
in real life to the like multiple personality disorder
you see in like a movie, right?
Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's very rare and apparently it happens in childhood
as the result of severe trauma.
There is some of this in Moon Night recently,
if you saw that,
leads to the development of two or more identities
that control a person's behavior at different times,
leads to memory gaps,
can lead to difficulties connecting with people around you
because your reality is constantly shifting
and you don't know what to believe.
But apparently this guy named Leonard Stockel,
Stockel, not sure, he's from Munich.
He was taking his A levels
and while everybody else was studying,
he was so stressed out
that he was like having nervous breakdowns,
he started having memory loss
and he had to go to seek medical help
and eventually was diagnosed with DID.
He says, he's 22 years old.
He says he has 10 identities, four-year-old Kovu,
eight-year-old Hector, 16-year-old Anna,
17-year-old Cosmo, 18-year-old Ash, 19-year-old Jesse,
21-year-old Leo, 23-year-old Billy,
24-year-old Liv and 26-year-old Red
and that he is not in control of when they take over,
which means he can't have a job
and they all have different motivations,
so it's hard for him to go out into the world
and trust that he's gonna be okay.
Apparently he has a partner named Massimo
who gets what's going on,
but he says that it gets really weird at home
when he's a four-year-old and he's with his partner.
And he also hears a quote from him
about how difficult it is
because some of the personalities
have different preferences than him,
so here's a quote from him.
One of the alters hated him at first, talking about Massimo.
He's now trying to be pleasant, but it doesn't always work.
We have a very young alter that has met him,
but it can be difficult for my boyfriend
when there's a younger person fronting
whilst we are together.
Pretty crazy.
That's fascinating.
But also, this guy, he looks at them as,
he has a kind of a positive outlook.
Here's another quote from him.
He says, they're my family, my best friends, my team.
I wouldn't even be able to live without them.
Every one of us has our own wishes and interests
so we can share them with each other.
I would never choose to live without the other alters.
Pretty interesting.
Take that with a grain of salt, but it's pretty interesting.
Yeah, DRD is one of those,
again, kind of just like fascinating mental illnesses
because we know so little about how it actually works.
We just know so little.
So it's always like, you know, I'm always,
like, I don't know what's the word.
I'm always cautious to talk about it
because I don't want to speak for a place of ignorance.
I don't want to say wrong science.
I don't want to like cultivate some sort of understanding
about it other than that.
I just wanted to report on the fact that there is this person
who it's said that he has it
and that he has 10 personalities.
And I just think that's kind of surreal to think about.
Yeah, I feel like, you know,
you don't just make your life so hard.
Well, there's like, the brain is so interesting
that we know so little about it.
Like, have you ever heard about that one person
who like got hit on the head
and started speaking another language?
Yes, yes.
That's an older story.
It was like spontaneous French knowledge, right?
Yes, but like, how?
You know what I mean?
Like, how?
That's fascinating. That seems like fucking magic
to me actually.
Maybe there's like a collective unconscious
that we're all part of.
And you know, you just attuned your little dials
a little differently and well, now I know French.
You got somebody else's iCloud login.
Yeah, it's a matrix, but it's the Bezos matrix.
It's so weird. The Bezos matrix.
What the fuck?
Jesse, take us out.
I leave you today with a story
that is pretty much designed for the both of you
and not for me, but I'm surprised we haven't talked about it.
From today, terrified witness tells of creepy dog man
prowling in woods and prairies.
Described as having the head of a German shepherd.
The dog man creature has been reportedly seen
across the United States and Canada
in terrifying encounters.
So I guess this story takes place in Ohio
and basically this dude says they are real
and as real as it gets and they are dangerous.
So let's just go through this.
Okay.
This dude who will not be named,
he doesn't want to be named, says Voldemort.
I've always loved nature.
I love the woods. I love hiking, camping, fishing.
On this occasion, I was by a lake
for 15 minutes with all the sudden,
this overwhelming feeling of dread came over me.
I switched my head lamp on to turn around,
I guess it's nighttime.
I switched my head lamp on to turn around
to start back up the riverbank
and right behind a big sycamore tree,
I saw what looked to be a very large animal
kind of kneeling beside it.
As I locked eyes with it, I completely froze.
I knew I was definitely seeing something there,
but my mind couldn't process it.
What was I looking at?
It didn't make any effin' sense.
I kept saying to myself,
animals aren't supposed to look like that.
Right as I was thinking this,
it's as if the thing read my mind,
stood up and made itself perfectly visible.
You know, the monsters your parents told you about
that you told you that weren't real and couldn't hurt you?
Well, I've heard of the dog man before,
but I never really took it seriously.
These things are perfectly adapted killing machines.
I don't know where that comes from,
but that's what he said.
These are perfectly adapted killing machines.
The way the arms and legs looked,
it looked like it was perfectly adapted
to walk on all fours as well as two legs.
This experience has torn a huge hole in me.
Another guy, they quote, from Georgia,
said that he saw something very, very similar as well,
and that potentially could be the same dog man.
He said it was a genetically mixed identity,
a genetically mixed entity of man, wolf, and primate.
He added, I spent 21 years in the army all over the world
in three different theaters of war,
and I've barely slept since I saw this.
That's how much of an effect it had on me.
It was an enormous canine-type creature.
I can still taste the fear in my throat and my own vomit.
I was six feet tall, or I'm six feet tall and 250 pounds,
and this thing dwarfed me.
At least seven foot six, maybe 350, 400 pounds.
As a former college and semi-pro football player
and powerlifter, I know about big people
and about strength and musculature,
and this was no normal creature
that evolved somehow in that environment.
I can promise you this.
It is not something anyone would want to encounter twice.
Another witness who saw this thing said,
there aren't many things in the world that would scare me,
but simply put, I've seen some shit in my days,
but nothing prepared me for that.
I recall there was a search when I was a young man
for someone who got stuck in a storm drain
or something like that,
and we saw something very similar back then.
I wish we hadn't.
So that's pretty much-
I wish we hadn't.
Yeah, and basically it's these two stories
of this creature heading potentially south
for the winter or summer, I don't know what the hell he's doing.
Off to Texas, come say hi.
I'll be here cooking barbecue.
I guess it's Georgia and Ohio.
So you would imagine there'd have to be a Tennessee,
a Kentucky, Tennessee.
Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, I would imagine.
I'll put a well-turned-into-the-wolf man
who's going back to his homelands to feast upon humans.
It has the vibe of somebody who really wants to be
like a talking head on a documentary about this.
Yes, yeah.
Absolutely.
Because it's like a dude from Jaws
who tells that story, you know what I mean?
It's like a very specific like,
yep, we encountered this guy, terrifying witnesses,
tell of dog men.
Well, thank you, Jesse.
And thank you all for supporting us here
at patreon.com slash chilluminati pod
as we barrel toward mini-soaked episode 100.
We'll be back next week.
100 minutes of mini, baby.
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100 minutes.
No, what if we don't?
What if we don't do that?
100 minutes.
100 minutes long.
With every guest we've ever had all on at the same time.
Don't make promises you can't keep, Mike Martin.
No promises I can't, I won't make promises I can't keep.
See you guys next week for mini-soaked 97.
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