Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 202 - Modern Day Rosswell: The Best UAP Footage EVER

Episode Date: May 7, 2023

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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Julio Bernati podcast, episode 202. As always, I am one of your hosts, Mike Martin, joined by the Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis of LA, Alex and Jesse. Uh-oh. We're back across the ocean. We're back in America for this one? Possibly in Las Vegas. This is tough. Possibly in Hollywood. This is tough, because I've got, like, the Jerry Lewis goofs, but also that Dean Martin swagger.

Yeah, that's a question. It's a tough question. You have to answer it. This is a question you are... Leave it to the audience. Yeah, this is going to be blowing up the servers on the Julio Bernati subreddit. So you better go... Yeah, which one of us is the Dino of the group?

Well, and honestly, we've got to remember over at Spotify now, because, hey, if you guys listen on Spotify, first of all, follow us on Spotify. But there's now comment sections on episodes on Spotify stuff. Yes, there are. So you can answer there. And I could put up a poll and I'll see you can answer it that way. Yeah, Spotify is becoming like... They're trying to YouTube-ify, I think, the audio entertainment sphere. We'll see how it goes.

Feel free to leave a thank you for the Green Stone. Yes. Dude, there is no... There's no middle ground on how the audience feels about the Green Stone. They love it or they despise it. And now it's done. So, like, whatever. Yeah.

Now I'm free and I never have to talk about it again. Is that right? Well, you're stuck because there's minisodes now that are going to be having bits and pieces of story about it. Isn't that right, Alex? That's right. That's right. And you can get all of those minisodes at patreon.com. Which is a great website that you should go to to help us keep making this show for you.

And especially episodes that aren't about psychic questing in the English countryside. But also, if there's enough demand, I promise that there's enough out there information-wise for me to scrape at least nine or ten more episodes together. So, if you ever feel either way about it, please head over to patreon.com. There's art, there's pre-sale, on merch, on tickets. You get ad-free episodes. You get our new show, Rotten Popcorn, where Mathis someday will finally watch the X-Files. That's the next one.

And more. You made me such a promise via text last night. I'm excited. It was your birthday. Happy birthday. It was my birthday. It's happening. 29 and holding.

Not moving an inch. And holding. Hold on as long as you can, bud. Hold on as long as you can. I'm trying, man. I'm trying so hard. My grandma says she's 39 every year. And she just stopped at 39.

I might be the same way, honestly, when I get there. I'm at 37 now. I stopped at 26. So, it's like, it's cool. Why 26? You seem 26. Thank you. I agree.

Thanks. Yeah. It's all, it's all, it's a mental game. Until I'm the Crypt Keeper status. And then I'll be 46. I stopped at 69. Nice. Bam.

And I stopped at 16, which also, which explains why I want to fuck every alien that kind of comes into the show. I remember when I was 16 and I was obsessed with having sex with aliens. It's a life. It's a life. It's a life. Right of passage. It's an eye-opening realization, you know, when you realize what you're meant to do in

this world. You suddenly, chemicals that weren't there before are coursing through your body. Flow. And it was when the internet, I was 16 when the internet was like a baby. It was new. You could go anywhere and see anything. Any amount of clothing on aliens that you wish. Man's squish of glass and anus and bleed.

Two girl, one cup. I don't, what is? Meat spin. Three aliens, one saucer. This thing, actually, this explains everything, actually. Lemon party. There's so many, there's so many things out there. So many things that I had to see with my own two eyes because I was young, naive and

believed anything my friend sent me to go. You're like Mathis GPT of all the like original porn memes. A blue waffle. You know, that's a classic, a gross one, but like a classic. We are a show for adults. If you're a child, please turn yourself off. If you're an adult, go to patreon.com slash Luminati pod. I don't know if this is a show for adults.

I just listened to what we talked about. I don't think this is for adults. We're just going to go to patreon and one of the new patreon benefits is just going to be Mathis listing off like raunchy stuff he remembers from like before 2006. Man, I have a story about how I racked up like a $200 bill on my mom's phone because I was calling 1,900 numbers. And that's all going to be, I will interview him. Mathis tales from the crypt on patreon.

How much, how much, how much will you pay? I didn't talk to anybody. I just listened for like a minute and then I would hang up. That's a genius idea. We need a tales from the crypt for Mathis. I'm super down. My, my life is fucked. I'm really good at the Socratic method.

I can really get it out of him. I can get him talking. Yeah, it's really difficult. Put me on a stage. I'll do the same thing. Like it's kind of the same vibe. You put me on a stage and I just lose semblance of any shame. Yeah.

Let us know, let us know how much you would pay for Mathis tales from the crypt. Put it on the $20 tier. All right. Yeah. I'd sell my, my past for $20 a pop. I believe it. Yeah. Yeah.

There you go. Perfect. That's easy. Uh, yeah. I have a while. Did I tell you boys about the time I gave a girl a dollar for dancing with her in eighth grade? Yes. Yes, you did.

I, I just can't believe how open you admit to this nonsense. Cause it's, it's like, it's so weird cause I don't care. Like it doesn't matter to me. Like I was 13. Yeah. Maybe. So that was like 20 some odd years ago for one. And again, Jesse, remember that picture I shared with you?

It's that kid. That, that kid is my man. I went through a lot. I'm going to let you know. I got, I got shoved in a locker for real. Yeah. I was going to say, I was never at bully in school, but I, I'd bully you. Everybody got a shot at me, man.

Everybody got a pot shot. And then you go to sex ed with all of your biggest bullies. If I, if I was in school with you and I heard you gave a girl a dollar to dance with, I'd be like, dude, yo, we gotta hike that guy's underwear up or something. She was my crush and I was, I want to be like, man, that meant a lot to me. So I, and I found the money my mom gave me for snacks and I gave her a dollar. She didn't, and she asked what for, and I said, I found it. I didn't tell her like why.

So she took it. She took it. I can't believe Jenna, Jenna, if you're out there somewhere and you're weirdly listening, I'm very sorry. I hope we get a message from Jenna and it's like sweet. Like, you know what? I hope so. I got that dollar and I invested it in a lottery ticket.

I won $40 million. Like I won. Oh man, if that, if that happened, I don't know how, first of all, why aren't we married? That dollar is like, I can explain why you're not married real easily. I can too. Don't you worry. Uh, yeah, my, my, my life was wild, man. My life was wild.

Uh, my, it's, it explains why I am the way I am, Jesse. And I think it all makes more sense to you at the more you learn. I think it's endearing. I think it's good. I think it's funny. I think it's hilarious. I think it endears the audience to you. Also, I just wanted to point out just cause it's fun for me right now that this call

is called Chilluminati podcast instead of podcast, which is like, it's just a dumb mistake, but it's funny to me right now reading it that it says Chilluminati podcast here on the call. I didn't realize I did that. I just, it's, it, it means nothing. No one can see it. No. You just, it's just for us. It's just for us here on the, on the, on this side of the screen.

But you might be seeing our faces in minisodes moving forward at the, at a higher tier because people have been begging for it. I don't know why they want to look at our faces, but. Mathis wants me to clean my house. I'm going to become a, I'm going to become a vtuber just. I can't even see anything behind you, man. The window is so narrow. It's actually a very clean house except for the multiple cans of water in the background.

Yeah. Water. The recyclable water. Anybody is my birthday this week, which means I didn't do shit very much. But didn't mean I don't want to bring you guys an episode. And there's something I've been meaning to talk about in the minisodes the past few weeks that we just haven't gotten to. We got sidetracked by AI and then last week we just didn't have time.

So I figured might as well talk about it as sort of a pseudo part two, even if it isn't really a part two to our episode from a month or two ago of the modern day Roswell. We're living through like a modern day Roswell because since that episode, so much shit has happened that it's worth kind of covering. I think even the videos that have the one that we that came out last night that Jesse sent the chat, which is a wild one to talk about. We're talking. It's really good.

Though the one where the pilot's driving by and that weird UFO kind of zips by him and he's opened up more about that experience and let go put out more a bigger, longer video of it. So much has happened. But the big thing we can really start with is that the the open Senate hearing that we talked a little bit about in the Minnesota happened. And there was a few useful things that came out of it. We're not going to go over the videos we talked about in the Minnesota already.

We will mention that three videos were released, one of a top down view in a non combat zone in the Middle East of the silver orb moving at a high rate of speed being tracked by a drone camera. And you can watch it kind of zipping around. It's they blurred out all the telemetry. So it's very difficult to figure out exactly how high it is. And then the other two were over water and it looked like IR or like black and whites, like whatever those visions are that the military uses of an object way out there moving very

weirdly, hovering and then zipping back and forth. And then doing what most people describe UFOs doing when they see them in the sky before they zip away, just moving in ways that don't make any damn sense. And then the other thing was they released a graph showing hot spots where a lot of UFOs are seen, along with a pie chart of the shapes and types of UFOs that are seen most commonly, which is it's such a weird looking graph when you know it's coming from the Department of Defense. It's so a college in a weird way, the way you look at it, the way they pie charted out,

but it's like over 50% a majority. It's academic. It's so college bro. It almost just doesn't look like what you would expect the I would expect like the government to give us a piece of paper. You mean it looks like a project like 51% or or this and this. This and this. This and this.

Yeah. It was made for the general public to be able to ingest, I think, easier, which is not something I expected the government to do at all. Are you trying to say, well, we'll wait. We'll wait till we get there. Sure. Who does the graphic design on this stuff? Do you think?

Is it like an intern? An intern? Yes. An intern. 100%. Somebody fresh out of college. If you're the intern who just, I don't need any classified info. I just want to know if you're the intern who does the classified details, like the documents,

if you do those charts and stuff that are going out to the public, hit us up. If you're listening to the Chilmonadi pod, let us know. I want to know what it's like to be a graphic designer publishing for the government. You know, recently top secret details on the chart. It's fun. It's, it's fascinating. The, the, but the other thing we kind of learned and we didn't talk about in the Minnesota is we learned that the, for one reason or another, the DoD is really slow rolling, getting

Arrow everything that they've requested. They still haven't gotten their full funding yet. There's still only three fucking people working at Arrow, which we have more people that work for Chilmonadi at this point than there are people that work at AARO. Yeah. And the files that have been requested still haven't been sent over by the DoD, which they should have by now. And that came out during the hearing as well is that for whatever reason, they're really

pushing back on giving Arrow what they're requesting and that's slowing Arrow doing their job, which is to go back to 1945 and begin re going over all of the crashes, sightings, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And there's a lot of, again, rumors and potential reasons as to why coming from people that are relatively trustworthy and others that are dubious at best. But a lot of it seems to be the thing I keep hearing again and again is that there are people in the government, a lot of them, that don't want this topic to go much further because they truly believe it's religious.

It's demonic in some way. It's not aliens. It's Satan. And this is not something we should be messing with and whatnot. And if that's true, that's infuriating, but I can also see that being true. But then there's the other side of things from Chris Mellon, people that I put a little bit more trust in that are just like, the reason it's taking such a long time is because the truth is so much weirder than the public is ready to hear.

There's more to it than just nuts and bolts aliens zipping across the galaxy to come see us, that it might be interdimensional or some sort of reality-based thing or some sort of thing that we as humans just can't sense properly. It's more wooey. The woo is around the corner. I'm really starting to get into that mode. I'm starting to get that vibe from the stuff. I'm a man with feelings, sentimental.

I miss my family. I moved all the way to Texas from Massachusetts. I miss them dearly. But I'm also a tech-savvy guy and I also don't go out to print photos. When was the last time you went out and printed a photo? Exactly. You're lying to me if you say anything other than I haven't because I swear to God, I just haven't.

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Like, which is wild to me. Going back to what you were saying about, you know, religiousness and, like, I think that most religious people will be fine if it was, like, an alien showed up from Alpha Centauri, right? Because if God created us, then God could create everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's not from this realm. Yeah.

But if it's multiple realities and multiple levels of existence, that stuff's going to trick people. That's going to blow people's minds. Yeah. But even then, I'm curious, like, I feel like religion should still be able to, for the most part, accept that as well. God is everywhere, all the time created, everything that he created, the layers of reality, the layers of whatever.

Trying to convince, like, middle America, though, you know what I mean? Like, I can convince Mathis in a second. Yeah, fair. Or the older generation, especially. Yeah, it's a very, like, Christian-centric version of this because there are many other religions that we totally find, like, yeah, all right. But I think the problem that we have, at least in the States, is that our version of Christianity is, like, very warped.

And somehow, the dude who was, like, give up all your possessions and treat people well is now rich, is successful, and means to have God's favor. And, you know, like, this weird, like, there's... The prosperity gospel is what it's called. Yeah, yeah. But there's also a long line of, like... They made, like, a way for rich people not to be evil in the Bible somehow. Well, there's also, like, when you talk to somebody who's Christian, you have to also

ask them, what version of the Bible do you follow? Is it the King James, the classic Christian, the Catholic... And they all have different interpretations and different wording... Western Bacon Bible. Sure. I mean, but the thing is, is that our version has, especially in the evangelical community, warped to this thing where it's like, it is this, this is doctrine, vaccines are bad, the earth is, like, dinosaurs are fake, like, that kind of thing.

And those are the people that I would be concerned about if they were told, like, yo, there's another layer of reality on top of ours. I'd be like, all right. Yeah. You better watch out for them. They're about to go crazy. Yeah. And I can, I agree.

That can shake, I can see that shaking a lot of their foundation. It's fascinating. Yeah. It's fascinating because, like, yeah, like you said, Jesus was the exact opposite of that. And, like, the Bible, as someone who grew up and was raised Catholic from age birth to 18, 19, before it was finally over, like... I was raised Christian. I, like, you get it.

Like, it's a totally different story than what we see the modern sort of religious part of this country talk about. It's wild. The Bible warns about how Satan or that will be, is there to trick you, to coerce you, to pretend to be something that he's not. And if you, if you look at it from even just that perspective, those who have been aired into the way of wealth being the way of the Bible, couldn't that just be Satan pulling them gently?

I've literally asked that question. Why no one asked that. But the thing is, is because... People do. People do ask that all the time. They're just, like, they sound crazy. I mean, people, you know what I mean? Like, people, like, why no one stops to think, like, maybe I'm wrong, but they, we've talked

about this before. People don't like to think I'm wrong. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Like, they don't like that. No. You can't, you can't get anything done if you think you're wrong. I'm not saying it's a cult either.

It's not. But it's that cult mentality of, you have to, once you admit to yourself whatever you've believed is wrong, it shakes the foundation of who you are. And that can be too much. It makes you into a zealot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

People would fight back the idea that, you know, there's a lot of outside influence on the world. Like, there's another reality. Yeah. The millions, they'd still be scared. And that's the problem. And the reason why I'm worried about that is this is a country where 90% of the decisions we make are somehow either held up or controlled by this very small 30% of the population maybe.

And that's, that's tough because that's the people that I'm like, I think most people in America would be like, yeah, it's, it's chill. Like I'm, I'm high right now. So like it's chill. But what if Ozimandias, what if Ozimandias is right? You know, what if, what if aliens making themselves known is the thing that's going to unite us? And the reason that, and the reason that we're like covering it up is because we, you know, you know how like people go to another country and then suddenly they realize, especially

Americans, they realized they're like not the main character of their, of the world anymore. Like they learn that there's like lots of different cultures and you got to fit in and you know, whatever. Hopefully. Yeah. Hopefully that's what you learn. Like what if the alien existing is that thing?

Like, like the governments have decided that we're all going to be like at peace together and want to cooperate because there's aliens now. So maybe they're trying to control us and keep the world order the way that it is. You know, I mean, I'm getting into crazy territory, but like, you know, what if it's the opposite? You know, I mean, like, I'll take that crazy thought and run with it for a second here because I mean, that is another, there's so many theories out there. So just, you know, I prefaced this when I say this is a theory, it's because there are a lot of thoughts that are very similar to what you got.

What we're all having as well is that, you know, the idea of capitalism and the way we live our lives doesn't necessarily fit how we as humans naturally want to live in the first place. We're very communal based kind of species. And there is on that Chris Mellon idea of, you know, the slow roll is kind of coming along in a way because it's a little weirder. The lot of thought out there is that the Eastern style of religion of like Hinduism and Buddhism and all that stuff is way closer to what actually might be the reality of our situation and

how reality actually is than the Western look of like this high, like higher archie of like God and this, that and the other and in a much more strict single character kind of feeds into it. I'm not saying it's true or not, but that's something that's out there that's that, you know, if, if reality is just something we cannot comprehend and it, and it makes sense because it would mean, I mean, capital, like I love, listen, we exist in a capitalist world. I, I, I'm successful in a capitalist world, I'm not stupid. I'm grateful for the show.

But at the same time, like capitalism does ruin a lot, like it ruins a ton and it eventually will run its course. And a lot of the time when capitalism is at the brink of collapsing, it's socialist policies that save capitalism, never capitalism policies that save like socialism. You know what I mean? And so it's just not, I think that's, yeah, the natural way of our life or what we believe to be the natural way of our life collapsing under the realization that reality is much stranger is definitely a worry, I think on some level.

It's true. I mean, I don't think that anybody should be able to stop this information from getting out there though. As we get to the video, as I feel like we're getting to a point where it's harder and harder for them to keep it under wraps, but, but with that, but with that said, using sort of like the devil's advocate here, which I'm sure I'll get a message like devil's advocate, same, same, same, Scully, Scully's advocate. No worries.

Yeah. A Scully's advocate. I get that. Even though I haven't seen the series, I do get that thinking of it this way in that imagine cars that can fly. Everyone's like, where's our flying cars? Well, we were promised flying cars that kind of stuff. Imagine flying cars.

Melissa Etheridge really wants to know where the fuck those flying cars are. Imagine flying cars. Great concept. Very cool. Now that you have cars that can fly, how on earth do we create sky lanes? Oh yeah. Levels of flight. When you see in Star Wars, for example, and they're on course on, you see like the

lanes of cars flying in the sky. How do you manage that? How do you say, Oh, well, this is a lane and that's a lane. Like how do you can, and it's that kind of thing that I think if this is all real, if there are aliens in their hands, are you saying these are like nuts and bolts, physical planet to planet? Yeah, there's, there's things that, that as a governmental body to figure out, we already exist in one space, right?

To add additional stuff to that, create so many, it's, it's like cloning. Like we can clone. We know we can clone, but the ethics of we cloned a person. Now that's a whole other, and it's these kinds of things that, that same thing with AI, yeah, same with AI. It's, it's these kinds of things where it's like, not only philosophical, but also, also, also morally and ethically things we need to think about. Like it's philosophy basically.

And if you're going to expose the vast majority of the world, and I'm going to, let's be honest, the vast majority of the world is not ready to sit there and have a conversation about flying cars, let alone aliens from space or an alternate reality. We can, we can't even get fucking electric vehicles to be mainstream. So like, yeah, yeah. So we, you know, for what we are as, you know, we think of ourselves as like intelligent, again, we're just like, we're like glorified apes.

Let's be real. Monkeys. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Outfits. That's the other thing, Chris, not to interrupt you, Jesse, I just to throw this in there for context too.

There's like, what if the truth of it is that also that we have been being very like, like a control group tampered with, not because we're important, but because we're something just so much bigger and grander than we understand. That would also destroy people's conception of a God because we've been created via science, not via religion. But again, but like, this is one of the things that always upsets me about the fragility of religion sometimes. So it's like, if I was a believer in this like omnipotent omnipresent God who knew

everything, I would be like, oh, yeah, okay. So we were created by this other thing, but who created them? God did. And I'd be like, I would get there and I'd be fine in the end. And I, and I always think that when people are just like, if I'm religious, I'm going to go crazy if I hear that I was created in a tube. It's like people are created in tubes frequently and they can still be religious. Yeah.

Like think about, think about COVID, think about like when we, the, the, the zeitgeist was assaulted by the idea, the concept that a deadly virus was sweeping throughout the globe and causing deaths. You know what I mean? Like think about how you reacted to that news. Think about like, you know, it was kind of a slow burn. I'm one of the ones that had lost somebody to that shit. Like, I know it's insane that people are like, it doesn't kill.

I'm like, bro, it's more than four times deadly than the normal flu virus. Well, that aside, that aside, I just mean, like even, even without the like people that just like flat out, you know, refuse science, right? Like just you, the, the fully intellectual free thinker, right? The genius, whatever. Oh yeah, I'm just saying like, it's a lot to grapple with. And I didn't, for example, handle that news and that situation exactly how I thought that I would.

And I think like a large reason that we're scared is just because it is going to put us into a situation that's beyond our prediction. You know what I mean? And I don't know, I don't know what is like worse news or better news. I don't think it actually is possible to tell that. I just think like a large portion of why the secrets are there is just to avoid uncomfortable questions. I think that's partially, I think that's, that's, that's holds a lot of truth.

Speaking of uncomfortable during that first, that March, that first March of COVID for three weeks, I had to use paper towels to wipe my ass. So just, you know, remember that, remember that stores had nothing in them. The only toilet paper I could find was like a vanity toilet paper that jokes are in on them. And I bought with a floor that were left and they were like thick regular paper. But I was like, God, it's the only thing I can find. You got it.

And yeah, there was a panic. There was, and no matter what, anytime there's a major changing anything that upsets anything of a normal daily routine, there's a panic and people get upset and get worked up. And it takes time for us to sort of get in this groove and accept things. And that works against us too. Oh yeah. Right.

Especially here in the States today and many days this week, there have been mass shootings and we're just like, other day in the news. Dude, there was one in my town and in the town over from me within a week in Texas. Yeah. I don't think this would happen with aliens though. I don't think we would just like not care about aliens. No, but I'm saying like, it would shake the world though.

I mean, it would shake the world obviously. Yes, but it's one of those things where humanity, our whole deal is we are designed to adapt. That's what we do. Like that's what sets us aside from every other animal that exists in this planet is we adapt and overcome every single time. We, like most animals have a habitat. They live in a certain place and they do not leave that place.

Or if they're like a bird, they move between them because they know they couldn't leave there. We are like, let's close more clothes. Is it? Yeah, yeah. Right? Like we're like, put on air conditioning. Like we adapt so well and that's also mentally we adapt.

And again, sometimes it's bad. Sometimes like guns were like, that's life. And then sometimes it's amazing things and we're like, wow, we have the ability to literally find stuff on our phone at any point in time. And 20 years ago, you could not do that. We just, we just internalized it too. Like, yeah. Oh, yeah.

People from other countries getting mad because I don't text them back within five minutes. You know what I mean? Like that's just the reality of life now. Like that's so inconceivable. I remember I used to date a girl from Germany, uh, when she was in Germany and it was like hard for us to like communicate because we had to like figure out when we could both do it and it would be like sometimes a delay or

sometimes the internet wouldn't be good enough, like totally different. And we just internalize it. And if we can do it in fiction, if we can understand multiverses. Maybe we can do it in, maybe we can do it in reality. You know what I mean? Like maybe that like think tank thing about prepping our brains is real. You know what I mean? It's, it's God.

It's such a, it's another feels, it's not like a question to dive into now, but it's, it's an interesting thing to think about. It's like, were we ready for constant, instant global communication? No, no, no as well. You know, look at how I used to smile all the time, remember? Remember smiling. I used to put my phone down. Remember?

Yeah, I do. No, I was always a gaming addict though. I was always in front of something, but like it goes back to what we were talking about when we started the show about, uh, on the Patreon doing a VOD version of those shorter episode bits, the idea that we sat around and were like, God, should we do that? Yeah, like that's, it's because it's nice to let your guard down and not have to just be on all the time or like looking to camp like, and that's part of it.

And, and the people listening right now who want that stuff should understand that like that's putting on a show every time. Rather than just having a conversation between friends, we're now on a different level and it's that, it's that kind of thing where now I have to like put on an outfit, you know, it's, it's, it's a lot. Yeah. Yeah. And I know that, that, that there's going to be someone like, well, that's what

we want. Like, okay, you say that, but you know, there's small things can make big changes. Absolutely. That's the point I'm making. Absolutely. And, and with these, with these things, whatever they are, yeah, you know, there was a time I actually thought that humanity would be fine. If we realized what it was, humanity would be fine.

But the more I got into the subject and the more I started being like, I don't know if this is necessarily like nuts and bolts, like aliens from another planet anymore, then I was like, Oh yeah. No, I don't think humanity could handle this. Or if they're like a water, or if they're like a water people that have always been here, that'll be scary. Also, what if it's more than just one thing? What if it's all of the above?

We're living in Star Wars. Yeah. Speaking, speaking of water people this week, a big article was posted about the sentience of octopi. Oh, they have to be man. Those things and how they are truly like on our level almost of sentience where they, the thought I had the entire time was like, are they terrified of, I'd be terrified living under.

Like, if you have that level of sentience where like stuff's always coming to get you to have to live in like a cave, I'd be like, nah, bro, I couldn't do it. Apes chimpanzees and stuff. They're like 2% away from us in DNA. What if octopi are like 2% away from whatever's deep down that actually lives there? Yeah, exactly. That's exactly the type of thing.

They're like the chimpanzee to the, to whatever sentient life lives way beyond we can explore. You would have figured, see, like that's one of those things where after we polluted enough of the ocean, you would have figured they would have been like enough, you know, but are we getting anywhere near where they live? We've, we've explored 2% of the ocean total. I mean, it may not be, did we, the biodiversity of the ocean. We're ruining the hell of that destroying like the reefs and everything.

Yeah, but maybe they don't even like, maybe that doesn't affect them anymore. Maybe they just have filters, like we'd be reef monsters and they're like way down the trenches. Maybe they have space faring. If they, you know, yeah, like maybe they can like teleport and they have filters and they don't even like need to worry about the water getting dirty because they have like maybe they're us and there are twins and we're also blue and maybe they have waves.

Okay, so it can be anything hilarious. You bring that up because that's the other only like big theory I can I was going to bring up is like, there's also some people on online is like, they are us, we are them kind of thing that they may exist outside of time or have figured out how to move through time in a weird way. Cause space and time are, as we've talked about million times, not really real in the sense that we understand it to be. Now you're back in the green stone.

Yeah, yeah, but I honestly, if they're like them being time traveling humans in some way is to me the least likely, I think scenario for it to be, if we are saying this is something out of not within the realm of our own creation. Honestly, honestly, anything that we're talking about right now is the craziest thing that's ever happened in the history of mankind, regardless of what you're talking about. Yeah, people live through UFO mania in the fifties, but nothing like this. Anything, if it's anything having to do with space, if it's anything having to

do with another dimension, if it's anything having to do with time travel, anything about any of those being real, it's the thing that is defines our life on this planet as a species immediately. Yeah, and I wonder too, like a lot of this is coming forward because private companies are now starting to look into getting to space and it might be just like one of those things it's almost like a given that they're going to see something at some point. I don't know that it's possible because we got SpaceX and there's another one.

Does I know there's the Mars group that is attempting to like put together a private company to fly to Mars? But the difference is attention when they do something successful. Yeah. The difference is they aren't out there trying to like explore the cause. They're not star trekking. They don't have that kind of money. Yeah.

Yeah. Their thing is like, how can we get our billionaire founder and his new moon base? You know what I mean? Like, they're not doing anything. It's not. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, it's true.

Which actually, you know, we can just segue right into that to the videos that have popped up over the past couple of weeks. I we should just start with the newest one, the one that Jesse sent to the text message last night. That was your birthday gift last night. It was mine. Yeah, it was a great birthday gift. Thank you so much.

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I'll pop a cap. I'd what I'm learning so much. It's not my good. It's not my pistol. It's not mine. Uh, I don't want it's gonna scare me. I don't even like touching it. It makes me that actually.

No, that's man. That's a lie. Uh, years ago, someone sent me one of those like BB guns, except it's bright pink. So like, I have a gun too. Technically, that's kind of storage in a storage locker somewhere. I have to remember in the middle of the woods and there's kids coming to your lawn. You can start popping my neon pink BB gun to be like, get off my lawn.

You crazy kids time. Crisis gun. He has two versions. So I don't have a gun too. It comes with a holster that you can put on your waist. So you can like put it in a holster. Mine has no BBs. So like that's probably bad, but it looks nice.

Mine's a light gun virus light. It says for girls on it. My God. Now I need to see this. You got to bring, I know you can't bring it to a live show because it's a BB gun. Oh, God, I wish you could take that into a live show and do something with that. No, no, no, I know you can't. It's a BB gun, but I suppose we can pose with it like Lee Harvey Oswald.

There is a photo of me out there. Oh, I'm not like Lee Harvey Oswald, but there's definitely a photo of me being like Bond looking cool air quotes. I don't know how cool. I don't know how cool you're looking. Jesse, why don't you explain to us the video that you shot off to us last night, what it is of, where it came from and what we're looking at. And for people who are looking for it, Dean, I'm going to give you a link to the

to that so you can grab it and send it to me as part of the package. So I don't lose it, basically. OK, so this video is one that was posted to Reddit. It may still be on the front page. It was posted a day ago. It's on our UFOs. If you really want to see it, it's pretty good. And it's titled Amazing Footage of Selenical UFO Film by Drone in Hungary.

So, and one, it's like, basically one of the best videos I've ever seen of any UFO, and that's why I think it may not be UFO, but also it's so well, like it moves in a way that I've never seen anything move before. Yeah. Right. May not be alien. It's definitely UFO. I don't know what it is.

It's unidentified, but it's so. Yeah, good. It's something all right. And it's crazy looking before we move on to that. There's I want to give you a comparison photo for another cylindrical UFO that was in filmed in Connecticut, Fairfield, Connecticut, specifically. And there's a comparison you can compare side by side right there. And you can see the shots of the one in Connecticut compared to the one in from Hungary.

It is absolutely the same thing. Wow. Whatever that is, whatever that is, that's what they all are to me. Wow. That's the exact, it's the exact same thing. Yeah. When I saw that, it makes sense. It makes sense why people think it's a disc.

If it. Yeah. So this is like a classic. Why people say it's a cigar. Yeah. This is your classic Tic Tac cigar, cylindrical shaped UFO. And the way it moves in the video is it's just like, it's going at a ridiculous speed and it dips down, then like straightens out and dips down again, straightens out.

And you can leave the shot where the drone took it, which was far away. And then a zoomed in version that's tracking it so you can see it up close, you can compare it. It is, if this is what people are seeing and we're finally seeing it and like, this is awesome. This is like fucking cool shit. It is such high quality that the zoom in is clear. It is something that is done at 60 FPS. So it looks like it's moving and you can see it move and see it dip through the clouds. And it looks like.

You see it. Yeah. It looks like a real thing, not like a fake BS, unless this is the greatest CG in the world. No one's debunked it yet. They pulled off the greatest, which it could be. It is amazing looking and it could be the greatest CG in the world, just to be real. You always that chance. Of course, there's always that chance, but it's just the way it interacts with the actual clouds

and the way it's moving through the environment. It's there, it's present, size makes sense. The wide shot, it's very, very small, almost indistinguishable. The close up is like the best way to describe it is from the angle we have. It's either a completely flat disc and we're only seeing one part of it and sort of like a 2D playing kind of thing, or it's like a giant flying metal cigar. I'm not sure which it's incredible looking. It's wild.

Could it be anything? Sure. Could it be alien? Sure. I have no idea what it is. The way it moves is insane. That's what gets me about it. It's like it looks so real.

There's no apparent mode of propulsion. There's no propulsion system that you can. There's no contrails. There's no fire or heat that you can see. Now, granted, we don't have like an IR sensor would have been awesome to have it, but it's just thrown. It looks like there's at least some logic to it. Like it's definitely not like, let's say like debris.

No, it's moving and moving in a particular fashion. It gets crashing. It looks like it's in control of itself, whatever it seems like it's made by technology. You know what I mean? It doesn't look like magic totally. It looks like it could be. It feels like there's some sort of consistency to it. I don't know what it is.

It doesn't look like any sort of propulsion that I know of. I don't see any propulsion from that at all. Yeah, just has the vibe of like they're being logic to it, which is kind of weird to say, but I don't know if you know what I mean. No, I know exactly what you mean. There does seem like an intelligence is maneuvering it, even if it's like an AI or a machine guiding it somewhere. Because the other thing that I posited in the text yesterday,

was that it might be like the only thing I can think of is that maybe it's like a cruise missile or a missile of some kind, but it moves in a way that I've never seen a missile move ever. But we also have that also when I came across the photo of the Connecticut one, I don't it doesn't there's nothing they were shooting missiles over Connecticut. That looks like that. So it looks like a fucking train. It looks like a like a choo choo train out of control on no tracks,

like flying through the sky, doesn't it? Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it's a good way to describe it. Honestly, yeah. Yeah, I don't know how to describe it any better than that. Looks like a like a fast motion choo choo train, like a model choo choo train. I don't know why I'm saying choo choo train, but a model train. Keep it going. I like it. Just going down the tracks.

I'm trying to look at the high chart from last time as well, because I'm trying to see where the UAP hotspots were. Hungary was one of them. But yeah, some people are saying maybe it could be like a misguided, like Ukraine missile or something. But again, there's the comparison to the Connecticut one. It looks exactly the same. It looks fucking identical.

And it looks like a smooth metal with no corners. It just looks like a frickin pill. It's so, so bizarre. Yeah, which is like so consistent with like 50 years of sightings. What, Jesse, are you reading something? You look lost in the research right there. So there's a video on YouTube of this dude going through some of this footage. And OK. Yeah, it's like comparative.

I'm trying to figure out what the point is. It's not in English, so it's very hard. But it's it's this comparative of just trying to figure out if it is, in fact, real or something that was layered or CG. And it definitely, the more high res you get it, the problem is it starts stuff starts artifacting. Because yeah, if you're upscaling artificially, the it's just the computer can only do so much.

Yeah. And so there's some shots where it looks like, oh, that is clearly put in there because it's brighter and shinier than everything else around it. But that's also that I'm watching them upscale it right now. So like, I don't know that that's as a guy who wants them to be like, it's actually just some sort of fake thing. The more they mess with it, the more it looks fake, but it's also because they're messing with it.

So I don't I don't know. This shout out to Dean, who just dropped us a link as well. Yo, of the same another sighting in Colorado of ninety five home video. You can hear their kid in the background as they're zooming in. And it looks like a camera from ninety five, but it's still pretty clear. Similar of another tic tac that looks like that. Similar crash. Except that is like a real like it's less a tic tac and more of a flying blunt.

I wish that's what it was. It looks like a train, man. Like it looks like it looks like a little train. I don't I don't like I don't understand. Are you mean the way it moves? It looks like a train. Even it literally looks like a like a CG model of if you and I'm not saying this in a way where it looks computer graphics.

I just mean like if you somehow had footage of a train from a far distance going down like a crazy track and then you just like digitally removed the track. And the and the train was like silver. That is exactly what it looks like. Yeah, I can see that. Gentlemen, I found it the raw 4K footage. This is what we need. This isn't the close up.

This is the raw. This is amazing looking six seconds long. Oh, my God. That's so good. You know what? I'm so impressed. Yeah, holy shit. That's real, man.

That has that. I mean, that has to be real. That's insane, man. Holy shit. The best part about this is on the Reddit post, besides the fact that everyone on R slash UFOs is being like, you know, normally I want to leave this subreddit because all it's usually trash, but this one's good. Besides the fact that everyone's losing their mind, one user who is user

six, seven, eight, nine, nine, zero, six, five, five, who I guess is the original poster said this video displays for the five observables, observables. Yeah, I read that. And literally the only one not present is traveling between different types of environments, medium transportation is not visible. But the object is seen behind clouds, low visibility, the object shimmers with a metallic surface. The object is seen making multiple sharp turns at a very high speed, instant

acceleration, and the original uploader stated it may no sonic boom. So, you know, when it should be considering the speed and the object is calculated to be going roughly 1800s, 1800 kilometers per hour. And if you look at this because I don't know how fast that is. And if you look at the MP4, that's the big 4K version, I saved it in everything. That thing is like, it is moving so quickly. It's moving faster than jet planes, dude. That is an amazing image.

Like that six seconds is incredible. Look at the way you can even see how it comes out of the clouds almost directly down almost like a, it's like a 75 degree angle the way that they come down. 1200 miles an hour, it's moving. Holy shit, it looks different than I thought. Got goosebumps, man. Oh, this is everything I've ever wanted to just see on camera birthday. But the crazy thing about this is you could say, awesome.

Maybe it's a bird or maybe it's something that doesn't look based on the angle of the camera and where everything is in the shot and how it interacts with the clouds. It is not one of those things where it's perspective based. Not at all. It cannot be. No, because you can see the sun hitting it and then it dips off into the clouds right there, which are clearly higher than the hills, I guess you would call those maybe a mountain.

Holy, that's like this is the unless it unless it's light. Because it does at if you watch six seconds video, it does kind of come out of the middle of the clouds on the left, zip back into the clouds. Like it came from somewhere. I don't know what direction it was. But yeah, man, unless it's like a weird light artifact or something, but it's it clearly, it clearly qualifies as a UFO. It looks like real footage.

Yeah, I'm not a videography like expert, but if that's a light artifact, that's fucking wild. Yeah, whatever this is, like whatever it could be in the possibility of whatever it is, it 100 percent qualifies as like a legit real UFO. And this is it looks wackier than I ever expected. No, this is it looks about what a tic-tac. I expected a tic-tac to look like like. But we never see them.

We never see them move like this is movement. That looks impossible to do. It looks alien. It looks unreal. Yeah, because it's it's a 4K fucking cameras and nobody can be like, this is all I've ever asked for on this entire show for 200 episodes. When everyone's sending us like, this is Bigfoot and it's grainy as shit. You're like, here's UFO.

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Don't worry, you get used to it. Okay. Well, all right. There it is. How do you, Jesse, does this change it? Like, how do you just impress by it? I'm curious what your thoughts are. Oh, I mean, like, again, I'm not going to sit here and be like, that's an alien.

No, obviously. I'm not six. Right. Done to your head. What do you think it is? I have no clue. I couldn't tell you. All I know is that it is a thing.

In my head, that is a thing that exists, right? Like, I am sitting here trying to find people. You think it's a physical object moving through space? I'm like, trying to find people in this subreddit who are like, that's fake, that's BS. Yeah. And I can't find any. And even the people who are skeptical are like,

I don't know what that is. And this is, I'm looking for a reason to be like, this is fake. But I don't have one yet. And if it's not fake, that means it's real. And if it's real, that means that it's something. It is fake. And he did make it. He did a great fucking job being able to make it, like,

getting it to interact with. Yeah. And if, yeah, if it is fake, it's brilliant. Yeah. Do you think that it's a physical object moving through space that you're looking at, Jesse? I don't know. I don't know.

I need to watch it again. It is, like, because it moves so quickly. And when you, like, pause it, it's this bright light. And I don't know if that's just because that's what it is. But it looks like, because when it gets toward the end, though, like its angle is changing. It's not the same shape going all the way down. It literally seems like it's turning to, like, follow the sky.

You see, it's like, it's horizontal in the beginning. And then it's slightly angled at the end as it's moving toward into the cloud. It also appears to be trying to stay in the clouds as they move. Yes. Which would make sense if it's always trying to stay out of site, if it's intelligent or being driven by computer or whatever.

It's fascinating. Whatever it is, it's fascinating. And anyone listening right now, hopefully we'll link this or stick it in the description or something because this is like, yeah, we got you. Genuinely fascinating. Imagine if you didn't have a camera and you're one of the people who gets who sees this and it's for goddamn five

seconds and you now have to tell people you saw. I wouldn't have ever noticed it at all. Yeah. But imagine you are one person who notices it and now nobody like trying to spread the story and you just lumped in with everybody else is like, yeah, okay, whatever, you know, like, but now we have the video and seeing that thing move is cool. That's actually one of the things that I'm that I'm interested

in is the original poster posted this thing about it. And the problem I have is that why was the camera there? What could he just be getting like background footage? My understanding is this particular person who caught it is also a YouTuber, like a relatively well-known one out in wherever he was understood like all those things make me ask questions. Like why was there?

Why was the camera there? What was the purpose of it? Oh, it's a YouTuber. Well, what is a YouTuber gain from like those make me be like, okay, a little sus. I want to take a look at his channel because if we can get a look at his channel, maybe we could if he has a lot of just like B roll footage of nature with his drones because this is

drone footage, then that would make sense why he might just be letting getting just background footage or a time lapsing or something along those lines. That makes sense to me. I just don't know what kind of footage he makes. God, if we go to his channel and he's like, I'm a CGI guy. I'm gonna be so fucking mad. He says they're saying at least I'm reading on the Reddit that

the YouTuber is Hungarian and that they in the video aren't saying it's real and they think it's a swallow. But I, you know, I don't know. I don't know for sure, but like the link to the video is here. So the guy who caught the video says he thinks it's a bird. He thinks it's a swallow. But like, I don't know. What is it?

What is he educated in bird law? That's the question. We're how high up is that bird? If it just appears into the clouds, right? I don't know. That's weird to me. It doesn't look like a bird, but I don't know. Maybe this guy knows something.

I don't know what's crazy. Whoa, this video is two years old. So why is this brand new on interesting? Maybe people just found it. It's possible they just came across it. Yeah, I'm not sure, but I think that I think that it's interesting that that's two years old. I think that it's interesting that it's it's popping out because

it's dated 2020. If it's two years old, it makes me believe less that it's a CGI thing and more that it might be real. I feel like you would have come forward at this point. Well, it's tough, you know, like I found trying to do some of the more out there, like big alien stories language barrier. If you don't have the ability to like, you know, get somebody who fluently speaks a language to help you, like figure out

what the fuck is being said. It's like hard to get a big picture and spread the word on something in an effective way. Yeah. And, you know, I can't confirm from this that the guy says it's a swallow because I can't speak Hungarian. I can't. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out.

Even the even the tags, even the even the metadata is in Hungarian. This is Alex. You linked us. If you go to the seven minute, eight minute, two second mark ish. Yeah. Is that a totally different? Take tech.

I don't understand what we're looking at. This looks like the 4K footage, but just with like some. But it's not moving the same. It doesn't dip out. It doesn't. It's like it disappears in the clouds differently. It's not it's not the it's slowed down so you can follow it with your eyes.

I think this one is just the same 4K footage that we looked at before, but just he puts a circle around it and it's clearly slowed. It also has some filters like it doesn't look like the same footage, but it definitely is. It definitely is like the same footage. I can tell that it is just from the. Yeah, it's just his his footage that he has.

It does look a little. It doesn't look as cylindrical for all the comments. It seems like the guy is basically saying like we don't know what this is because everybody. Yeah, of course we don't. That's what's interesting is this guy explaining it is. I couldn't tell you what this is and if it's a bird that bird is a badass that dude put on a fighter pilot hat was like

let's go like honest to God. I don't like it doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, it's so weird. But I love it. I think it's really cool. Some of the comments are like even if it's terrestrial, it's still in technology.

We don't understand. That's yeah. Even if it's from here, it's something that I cannot explain. I love this footage, man. Holy shit. This is so good. It goes. It's like the best footage I've seen maybe barring the pilot

who buzzed by a different looking UFO that we shared a couple weeks back, which is kind of made the rounds at this point. What's this other video you sent me, Alex? I said some footage of swallows. Oh, OK. I don't think that. I mean, that seems pretty. Different.

I don't know. I mean, there's there's similarities. Sure, but they're flapping like crazy, too, though. So I don't know. Yeah, that's the thing is unless this is a swallow where its wings are at side and it's zooming along, these swallows are moving fast, but they're also just like flap, flap, flap, flap, flap. Yeah, they're all zipping around and they don't hold the same smooth

tic-tac shape that that thing does. Yeah. I don't think it's a bird personally, but I mean, like Jesse said, I look at some footage of a swallow, you know, if you're listening, like I'm just using I just pulled like a random piece of footage of swallows, but maybe if you find a piece of footage that looks more like the tic-tac goes goes shared on the subreddit and we have a look at it.

We got that other stuff that Dean sent us another tic-tac one as well. So like there's there's a lot and then the comparison to the Fairfields Connecticut UFO that looks exactly the same. I don't know if Connecticut has swallows that zip around, but maybe they do. It sounds like a place that would, but I don't know enough about birds to tell you.

But I have another video I want to share with you as well. This is this is posted less than a day ago. This comes from Chatham County, NC, North Carolina. It's it's law enforcement that caught this video and it is about a minute of weird dancing lights in the sky. They he said it was somewhere between 10 and 10 to 20,000 feet in the air in altitude and three people, including the supervisor sat and watched them and then called RGU to see if

they had anything on the radar and they said no. So this is this is cops. Cops, police officers. So no real reason to fake this. This is literally from yesterday. This is submitted 17 hours ago. And you can see in the early part is like one or two lights. But I mean, if you don't want to go through the I suggest

watching the whole minute and then nine seconds of it as you're going to see more appear and they they form a very familiar shape that many people tend to see when these encounters happen. See him slowly separating. Yeah, like this this definitely looks like what I would call intelligent motion again. Yeah, there's going to be more lights that show up though.

Yeah, I've been watching it and now there's like three. Yeah, so they said it lasted over an hour and it went from two started at three lights and went up to five and you're going to see all five show up. Oh, yeah. No, yeah, there they are. It's extremely dark. Yeah, it's it's late at night.

But I this is I mean, they probably like that hard to see because see they form a triangle. Yeah, they totally do. And then they start to kind of move around a bit. It looks like and they said this one for an hour. It looks like a formation, no doubt. Yeah, you know what the worst part about this footage is? Someone is clearly shining a flashlight or something up at

them. Yeah, they're trying to figure it out. Yeah, it's really disturbing the footage, but I will say for most of it, I was like, it could be flares. It could be whatever. But the last five seconds, maybe when like a giant try like five thing triangle shows up, whatever that is, it's cool looking.

I don't know what it is, but it looks cool. Yeah, no, it's it's it's again. Another one of those just kind of fits what most people tend to see and apparently what apparently the hungry UFO footage there's another object that can be seen very briefly. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. You see it go back and forth. It zips over the mountains and then it kind of makes an L shape and goes back. Yeah. And then but it's like us in the real raw footage is like barely

a second long. It's it's slowed down so you can see it. It goes womp and then it just goes you think and then it zips off and the light catches it at one moment where you can see it light up and you can see the shape. I want to go back to that raw footage now and see if I can see it there. That so that one's whatever that is.

It seems so close to the ground and like that seems very tiny. In fact, I would say that's probably I wouldn't put that in the same category. That might be an artifact. Okay. That almost like discredits the footage in my mind. It almost makes it look almost more birdlike. Yeah.

It's going to be bottom left as soon as you get play. You're actually going to see it in the clouds for a second. First you're going to see it move. You're going to see it kind of twinkle down and then you're going to see it over the mountain. Oh yeah. Totally. So it comes from the clouds.

It zips toward us first up on the upper right of the hill. It kind of disappears and then we see it again. Bottom left. Yeah. So the mountain in the bottom left. Yeah. Call it a mountain but it will you'll see it with there at like right about three seconds just before three seconds.

Yeah. And then you see it again at four or five. Yeah. And then it bounces back. But before that right when you hit play like before the one second mark on the upper right in the cloud area you can see it kind of come and disappear before it zips shows up again. You see what I'm talking about.

Yeah. See that that makes me like I don't know man. It's almost discredits it right. There's something it's yeah there's here's the thing it could also be based on this image compared to the original footage. Yeah. Someone clearly went in and upscaled this in some way in

order to make it visually easier to see the object. Oh yeah. Maybe that is part of what's going on down there. I think it's picking up other things as well. Maybe are you looking at the raw footage with the of it though. Yeah. I'm looking at the raw footage going back to the guy's original footage and it's very clear that the big MP4 is either

the guy did something to his footage or this footage is one of them is altered in some way. I don't know which one. Okay. And I think it's the one on the on the inside the video that we're looking at. It looks treated. It looks like it's the one that's tracking it.

The big the big one looks raw. Yeah. The big one feels raw to me. I let me look at the size of the file. It's 82 megs for six seconds. It's pretty that's pretty chunky pretty big makes sense for a raw file especially 4k. It I don't I don't know that other thing on the on the left

hand side it's weird the thing that zips through the clouds in a very clearly cylindrical shape is still very that blows me away still like no matter what may be on the left hand side which is still funky to me because it comes out of the clouds into the clouds and then it appears only by the side of the mountain before it kind of makes an L turn very sharp L turn and zips off out of view but it's the thing in the sky that's very clear that for that six seconds that's that I

don't know I don't lose that this part doesn't make me less impressed the more I look at it this like second additional footage. Yeah. The more I look at it the more it seems like it is a visual sort of like a thing where it looks like because the frame rate it's like it's closer to the camera than than we actually perceive it to be and I would say it's probably like bugs like

a firefly or something like that like that the thing in the sky is something different but those things they're not even the same size you can even tell yeah there's closer to the ground and and one of them if you just like if you go back to that second footage and at three second two seconds actually when it goes across the small one like it's closer to the camera than it is the mountains and it's 100% a bug I would absolutely believe that to be above.

Yeah, I can I can believe that for sure it's a top it's just the top like just the frame rate picks it up and the upscaling it makes it look like a blur rather than a bug but I would say it's probably a bug like it's like a firefly or something really wish I didn't know it was there. I like makes me but it's important to know that it's there you know what I mean it's true yet sure it just makes me less willing to jump on that original tic-tac because it seems

kind of similar to it in some superficial ways visually so I don't know a little bit but yeah but at the same time they're both just like weird light that's hard to tell what you're looking at looking at that close-up footage. It really does not look like it's some kind of living creature I'll just say that yeah no no no I don't yeah I agree I don't think it's a it's a living creature at all apparently to also the might be but not the kind that we know right.

The US was also tracking another weird mobile in yesterday I don't know if you saw that too yeah that just came out as well I didn't see that I'm I also to add the more I've been like doing the research recently I'm more believe the things that we shot over down over our own US was dumb trash or their own technology government's technology at this point I fully believe it was something weirder we would not have heard about it yeah I don't know what that was about it makes

me feel weird to think about it actually it makes me like wonder like what the fuck is going on in a larger way. Yeah we are going to be getting another public hearing in June it will be a congressional public hearing again so the first one is congressional the second one was Senate this one will be congressional again and really what they're looking for is more info the stuff again the stuff that they've requested they haven't gotten as they were supposed

to at this point and really hopefully they get the funding that they need but there's you know the past that's like just a week and a half's worth of videos over the since since the the Senate hearing it's crazy I feel like more more videos like this are needed like more drone captures of weird things this is this is this almost feels like the holy grail of the UFO video if it wasn't for maybe the weird thing in the bottom left yeah that's it and this is what this is why like

doing this stuff is there was a hype there like oh my god it's amazing and then if you just stick with it yeah long enough you're like okay we gotta think about it some inconsistencies some things that don't make sense but like it's still phenomenal footage but it's nice to be like alright let's bring it down to earth for a minute let's like take a moment just for a second let's think about it could be an animal but it can't be it can't be perfect right it can't be

just like flawless there's gonna always be some reason to doubt there's a you know before we wrap this episode up the last thing I wanted to talk about was that you know Christopher Mellon and a few other people that are like in at these hearings testifying at these hearings and talking to the people at the hearings is also apparently another another branch of the government that is not working with Arrow at all is the Air Force and the Air Force apparently is also not

sharing information with the presidential team that we learned that last month prior to the hearing that info wasn't being shared and there's now speculation that if that there might be a crash retrieval like program at the Air Force that they don't want anybody to fucking know about and one of the reasons put forward is for them like the military everything's a weapon so once they know we have this the rest of the countries are going to be zooming after it and trying

to get it and do all the stuff but if they don't know and we keep it secret we can keep trying to reverse engineer this shit if that's what they're doing and we don't know because they're not cooperating with Arrow or the Dept. Department of Defense and nobody really knows why except for a bunch of rumors that are slipping out that interesting only be taken at face value depending on who you're hearing it from. Yeah I vibe with that wouldn't wouldn't surprise me wouldn't

be surprised me if like this like government branches CIA and FBI are notorious for never communicating and hating each other and like things things that are like amount to people fucking up and being dumbasses is like what is most convincing to me every time wasn't wasn't all of that after 9 11 put under the Department of Homeland Security purposefully so they could talk and communicate which is why we have so many leaks and things now cuz so many people have information and actually

at the moment I think the government is like we need to cut way we really screwed up everyone's walk around with top secret documents and like I know yeah well yeah that was a recent like revelation that some schmuck in Massachusetts some 21 year old had access to the like some of the weirdest classified information because they don't keep track of that shit yeah when they asked they were like cuz they're like he's 21 why does he have them like well age doesn't determine

who gets class like classified clearance but also everyone apparently I guess the problem is is things are being classified for reasons like like if you and I were in the government and we say we were going to lunch and we're going to talk business at lunch we'd have to classify that email to each other over which is crazy yeah that's insane and it wouldn't surprise me and then if but if there's weapons involved I would not be surprised that's even more lockdown and like sure

if they're trying to reverse engineer something if they got a crash retrieval I can see them being able to just wanting to figure out how the like reverse engineer how they move because that would change the base of power on the earth if we could if we had vehicles could move like that and like be controlled in that manner and zip around and go underwater and go in the air and it would be so scary we would never get that first wind yeah it's over it's over if we can figure

it out so it wouldn't surprise me if the Air Force for example is not sharing this information with literally anybody you mean the Space Force bro oh I know a man I wish the Space Force was a thing like everyone else yeah take money away from them and give it to Arrow please like we don't need Space Force okay we don't need to commoditize fucking space right now we're just trying to figure out what reality is we don't know if we need to commoditize space right now we

don't know what's going on it's true yeah yeah I don't know man it's like I did so much more we want to talk about but I want to talk about rather than we want to talk about but we're already over the hour mark I just want to leave final thoughts where do you think how do you feel about where we are as like in terms of like just UFO activity happening like what are your thoughts on how how much the activities like kind of kicked up is that do you feel it's group or like

hysteria being kind of like for formulating and on a more generalized consciousness like people are just seeing things because they're scared and that's kind of what happens during war times it certainly seems to be shifting away from ridiculous to realistic yeah I don't know beyond that what specific facts seem to be true or not and you know this is a drum I beat a lot on the show we talk about UFOs but it does in fact seem like something may be going on beyond what we're being

told and if it was my money if for my money I would say it's either something that another country is working on that we don't have which would be so scary if that's true yeah or something that we like the government itself has no idea what it is I'm more apt to believe that because I mean we people have been seeing these things move like this since the 50s if it's another country you feel like it would have been more prominent in their military at this point used

yeah Jesse what about you I question whether it is more is happening or we're just catching more because there's more ways to record and see but also I'm always fascinated by the actual fact that every time there are drum I want to say nuclear tension like every time there's like drama on a world stage yeah even but not like war but just anything anytime there's like diplomatic tensions or an attack or even like positive things things that could be anxiety or stressors

for people more of this stuff is seen be it paranormal or extraterrestrial or whatever more is seen and I wonder again if that might be an us thing you know like the human brain sees what it wants to see sometimes and yeah oh yeah that could be a factor as well so yeah I don't particularly know I just know that all of it coming together the way it has there's very clearly it is a time if you're like out there looking for UFOs or whatever this is clearly the time to be

looking so the technology and the more we can get on video like this the more we can say it's not a hallucination that people are having because we have visual evidence of it I for everybody listening I highly suggest you go check out this been particular the tic-tac UFO footage I will endeavor to make sure the link is in the description but if you are listening or whatever yeah you need really crazy it's not it's a it's the best tic-tac footage that exists period

end of story it is six seconds long but somehow at Ford like this is you could blow it up on your TV and just like look it's that clear yeah it's not go watch it I'm curious to hear thoughts about it in the comments as we wrap things up and we're going to go off to do a mini-sode we owe you a mini-sode from last week anyway so we'll go do it right now head over to patreon.com slash Illuminati pod to jump into the correct $15 tier to get those mini-sodes along with the ad-free

episodes the art and all that good shit that can be found a wonderful website and if you want maybe soon I'll draw some personal stories out of Mathis is live for him to go I'm down it has to be called Tales from the Crypt that's so funny I love to do that I don't know how long that series would be but we'll do my I'm curious it doesn't matter like we'll we'll milk it for as long as it's worth too long is the answer well we're going to wrap the things up here thank you guys

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a brand new episode we'll see you then goodbye bye bye anyway me and my wife were sitting outside indulging on our porch one night enjoying ourselves I needed to go to the bathroom so I stepped back inside and after a few moments I hear my wife go holy shit get out here so I quickly dash back outside she's looking up the sky I look up to there's a perfect line of dozen lights traveling across the sky you

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