Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 21 - The Moon/Mars Coverup
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Hello gentlemen, and welcome, welcome back to Chilu and Addy Podcast.
We are now on episode 21.
As always, I am one of your hosts, heck legal.
We're legal to drink, but we've always been legal to serve.
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Regal, 21 years old, baby.
What more do you need?
You're totally regal.
Get your purple colors out.
Come on, baby, royalty before you.
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I don't know what this character is.
Not a fan.
I'm a little nervous.
I don't like the monster lady from Monsters Inc.
Oh, yeah.
What's her name, Rosalina, or something like that?
I have no idea.
Rosalina.
That's it.
There you go.
She's Rosalina.
From Nintendo there.
As always, though, I am one of your hosts, Mike, and as always, I'm joined by Jesse and
Alex.
And today is an exciting day.
You guys have been begging for it.
We've dipped a little bit, but they've still been relatively grounded episodes on things
that are funky, but have an actual history to them.
But we're going out.
I want your tinfoil hats on.
I want your conspiracy theory jackets on.
And I want your chiluminati underwear tightly wrapped around your torso.
And I want your pants.
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I see you.
I wear you.
So I don't, but I will.
But today is a special episode because we're going back.
We covered a little bit.
If you remember, gentlemen, let me take you back a few, a few months to some of the earliest
episodes of chiluminati, a better time, a better time prior to the Tommy Patera trilogy,
prior to the true evil.
Yeah.
Before we knew what was like before herald the doll before herald the doll, which by
the way, he's still sitting over there.
He's done nothing, nothing at all.
I have not removed the tape off of his mouth.
However, give it time.
Oh, Jesse's going to get something right now.
Where he's going to get something.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can't see another thing.
This is another thing that happened.
Well, he's been getting sent a lot of things as well.
Oh, yeah.
This right here, this creepy football, supposedly football from the first Thanksgiving.
It's terrifying.
Maybe that's a little crack open at cox con.
Yes, we should.
We should just get the dirty on us, right?
Just bring us things.
Yeah.
Let's import that.
Let's see how they do.
This is from another land.
But we covered initially, I think it was like episode three or so, two or three.
We initially covered hollow moon, and then we discussed hollow earth pretty close to
one another back to back.
And there were a lot of things.
And if you've seen DC's Aquaman, you know the hollow earth theory.
Totally true.
It's true.
I've never, I haven't seen Aquaman yet.
It's totally true.
I don't know what that means.
I have not seen that movie.
I am now convinced to see it based on that.
I don't know what that is.
It's part of the film.
I'm just saying.
Totally true.
Well, I'm going to tell you that there are specular, there are bits and pieces of both
of those theories that are true.
But the most, most of it, I'm going to tell you is wrong.
Not because science proves it wrong, because the whole while, the moon, the moon and Mars
and even some other planets in our solar system have been in holding alien life there.
In this whole time.
And this whole time.
And NASA and the government has been covering it all up.
And we're going to talk about why.
Let me take you away from the land of truth and honesty and bring you to a land of extra
truth and extra honesty.
Yeah.
Question.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Is this stuff you guys actually believe?
Me?
This?
You want to do it?
Can I?
Well, usually we have one of these things where you guys are like, this has got to be real.
And I'm like, oh, this is stupid.
And I'm curious because this stuff I actually know about, I think it's fascinating, but
I do not.
I will say I do not, I don't think, but maybe I don't know where we're going.
I'm open to whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's dive in and we can give our final opinions at the end.
Okay.
I'm just saying.
Like I said, while the hollow moon and the hollow earth were incredibly convincing arguments,
none are going to be as convincing as this.
But where do we start?
How far do I bring you back?
Let me bring you back to 1976.
The year we got the photo of the monkey face on Mars.
Oh, the face on Mars.
Yeah.
The classic.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was one of the tabloids.
They put it as the monkey face on Mars.
I don't know that.
Call it a monkey face.
Well, it was just, you know, the tabloid to me, I'm thinking like Ray Bradbury, like
Martian Chronicles alien face is what it looks kind of like a robot face, like a blank robot
face.
Yeah.
A little humanist, a little bit.
You can like your paradigm could easily kind of create a human face out of it.
But everyone knows this photo.
And if somehow you don't know this photo, just go, go to Google and just Google face
on Mars.
It's like going to guarantee you the first thing that pops up.
It's so famous.
Yeah.
You shouldn't know it.
But this photo is actually just one of 18 photos that were taken on that particular expedition
to cover that part of Mars known as Sidonia or Cydonia.
I don't know how you pronounce it.
Sidonia as in the Knights of Sidonia.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I've also seen it written with a K as in instead of a C. So I don't know if it's
supposed to be pronounced Cydonia, but I call it Sidonia and I'm sorry.
Sounds fern to me.
Um, most of the image, most of the images were of good quality.
And by that, I mean they were about 876 standard quality, which means about 820 feet per pixel.
So each pixel on that photo was, was gigantic swaths of land.
So how big is this fucking face?
Right.
Well, big, very, very, very big.
And then the rest of the photos were actually worse and they were about 1800 feet per pixel.
So those, the faces we see of the face on Mars are actually of the higher quality kind.
These were mostly used to study the surface of Mars and its landscape, but little did
they know what they truly discovered was evidence of alien activity on Mars itself.
And the first step toward unraveling the great NASA cover up of not only aliens on Mars,
but also moon, the moons around Saturn as well, and Venus.
Dennis Rodman.
Elvis.
All of them.
They're all aliens.
So, so before we get to the cover up, what I'm about to say won't matter because it's
a cover up.
So clearly they have time to fake photos.
Of course.
But those of you who are curious, what it's been many, many years since we found this
picture of a face on Mars, what clearly they must have gone back and in fact they have.
They went back in 98 and in 2001 with much higher resolutions, they literally have a
satellite up there called like the Mars Global Surveyor.
It's gone back repeatedly again.
Could all be part of the cover up.
It's all part of the cover up, man.
Or they have much higher quality photos now and literally it's just like a Mesa.
A mountain.
Yeah, it's just a mountain.
But the, the fascinating thing.
They probably weren't looking in the right place.
No, NASA's photoshopping the photos.
Yeah, clearly they're photoshopping the photos.
But the fascinating thing has nothing to do with what it is, right?
It's, it's like just a Mesa.
Like you would imagine like a, like a bluff somewhere.
But what's interesting is that there are many of them and they're all positioned in
between this area that I guess was right along where an old ancient ocean would be.
And so at some point in time, there's a massive ocean on Mars and it's gone now, whatever
that'll happen.
And this would have been like beachfront property.
And basically, I saw something like this on the early Google images, like off like Florida
area, like lower East coast, where there was like forms in the Google mapping underground
that looked like they were buildings before like a flood came.
That's some interesting shit.
Yeah.
It's, it's, it's real fascinating to see that at one point Mars had water and there
definitely was probably 100% life that lived on Mars.
I don't know if it was like, yeah, I don't know if it was like alien, like, hello, but
stuff was going down and I'm much more fascinated with like, what happened to Mars, man?
Well we can talk about what happened to Mars if you'd like, yeah, that's what we're going
to get to.
So let's all, and all of everything I say is going to be factual.
So don't worry about it.
And there's actually, you know, I think there was a one point, a meteor, a meteorite that
we had discovered or had landed that actually held like, like a single celled, like either
or there are many people who believe the destruction of Mars is what prompted the population of
like Earth with life.
Like the thing where it like hit Mars and like a chunk came off and gave us our first
microbes and whatnot.
Yeah.
Even the moon.
People think that the moon was part of whatever nonsense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, we're actually going to talk about our moon a little bit here.
You know, there's like, like Jesse's already discovering there's a lot we could dive into
and like really extrapolate, but we're going to just talk about one thing, the truth.
So when you say that, I don't believe you.
The less I believe it's the truth, man, you can't convince me.
So shortly after the release of these photos, two computer scientists by the names of Vincent
De Petro and Gregory Molinar took them and digitally enhanced them with a computer technique
that they themselves had actually developed.
Again, this is all seventies computer tech.
Keep that in mind early eighties at the very, at the very latest.
So what they developed and that the technique they used, I didn't really deep dive into
it other than the fact that they were computer scientists at the time and they just digitally
enhanced them the best.
This is like on a cassette tape or something.
Yeah.
Like this is like old school, you know, digital quote unquote enhancement.
But what they discovered was that not only did the landmass itself seem to form a humanoid
like face, but the face also appeared to have details like pupils, teeth and even a hairline.
And I will say, if you go look at the photos and I, you know, I was, I was looking at them
as they were talking about them and I was researching them.
You can kind of maybe see like a hairline.
I don't see pupils per se and I don't really see teeth, but I can kind of see where they
see a hairline.
So it looks, it looks like a hairline and more like a, like a pharaoh's hat.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I agree.
It's a much more that, but I see where they were, where they were.
They have more data on, they have more data or they just enhancing just enhancing the
NASA photos.
All they did was like scroll in a bunch.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
It's not that high tech.
No.
It's very blurry and, you know, the intense, it's so blurry and pixelated, there's a lot
to left up into your imagination.
Again, 1970s science more or less, but those images, as far as Vincent and Gregory go as,
you know, as far as this story goes, that's where their story ends.
They've served their purpose.
They digitally enhance some photos, thought, oh, that is kind of interesting.
And that was more or less where they left it.
Again, those images obviously were released and enter the man who would perpetuate the
theory from here on out.
And even to the today continues to do exactly that.
A man by the name of Richard C. Hoagland, who would come onto the scene and turn the
entire world on its head, or at least that's what he would hope.
He had never seen the newer, more enhanced photos from, he had seen rather the newer,
more enhanced photos from Vincent and Gregory.
And while certainly bewildered and impressed by the face on Mars, Hoagland was more blown
away by what he claimed to see a few miles south of the monkey face on Mars.
Good old Richard here saw mile long pyramids surrounded by a fortress like structure and
exposed honeycomb of floors and a main avenue surrounding a possibly town square of this
Mars ruined city to the south of this face on Mars.
Town square.
Town square, honeycomb like levels, pyramids that are miles long.
And you can actually go ahead and Google that as well and you can go look up the images
for it.
What are these?
There's a much larger photo than what most of us see is just a very close up of the face.
But there's a much bigger photo and if you go down, look south.
It's called the Sidonia pyramid complex.
Yes.
And yeah, I'm going to chalk this one up to 70s technology, but still it's, you know,
it's fascinating to dream Richard in a fascinating to dream.
You say dream Richard says science.
Richard is the name we always use as the royal name for everyone together.
Richard.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Listen Richard.
Listen Richard.
Don't be a dick rich.
Don't be a dick rich.
Don't be a rich dick.
Also don't be a rich dick, which is clearly not what he's trying to go for as he's desperately
trying to bring out the truth of the matter to the man masses.
I don't know if this is the same photo or the old photo or what, but it's like it's
showing like a zoom in of the of the plateau.
That's the face.
And like when you zoom out on it, even now, it still kind of looks like a face.
I mean, when you zoom in, you can see the features and that it's not a face.
Well, one could argue that the face is there because of the time of day that the pictures
were taken and the shadows cast on the actual mountain caused it to look like a face or
it's just a face.
Aliens made that we'll get into.
So this this information itself, if true, would be utterly groundbreaking.
It would make headlines everywhere.
Everything would be turned on its head.
But if there's one thing I've learned about good old Richie Hoagland, it's that every
time he suddenly discovers something, it's even more mind blowing than his previous
discovery.
Has to be.
This wouldn't be the only thing that he would discover.
Rich is a modern mastermind.
He's a genius.
We'll talk about schooling a little later, but this man is quite intelligent.
But if there's a it's it's it's let's go on to the next thing he discovered.
Hoagland then went on to show that not only were these discoveries all important, but they
were also connected in a way that he had not initially realized, taking a compass, a calculator
and the five inch by five inch printout of the digitally enhanced picture.
He shows a series of mathematical relationships between the face, the supposed ruins of the
city and the mile long five sided pyramid that he ended up discovering.
Afterward, he describes that all of the key angles in the city and the pyramid point directly
to the face, while other landmarks seem to correlate to the sun's rising during the
summer and the winter solstice, of course.
But this would only be the big of Mars of Mars.
What the?
You're not are you are you not already convinced?
So yeah, he's saying the math.
What do you say?
Yeah, oh, you're trying to look at the math.
Yeah, good luck.
But yeah, basically what he's saying is he he drew a bunch.
The way I interpreted it by looking at these mathematical equations is he literally just
drew a bunch of lines that seemed to him at the very least important and deduced from
these lines and quote unquote equations that the city and the pyramid are pointing at the
face and then the other points of the city and then the rest of the points of the pyramid
have something to do with the winter solstice and the sun's rising.
This is like the JFK Abraham Lincoln back and to the left back and back and to the left.
This is this is crazy.
Are you telling me that you don't believe scientists Richie Hogan here?
I'm not saying that I don't want to say that because I'm open to whatever.
But I just am.
This is I don't immediately look at this and think math.
Well, that's why you're not seeing the truth.
Alex, you're right.
You're right.
I got to open your mind more.
I got to I got to believe harder.
Jesse, are you believing?
No.
Okay, so we'll continue then.
Maybe I was wrong.
No, for me.
I haven't convinced you yet.
Are you sure?
This is all actually happening.
Am I sure?
No.
Are you sure Jesse that you don't believe yet?
I definitely don't.
I am a long time listener of the many things Richard C.
Hogan has been on.
So I'll simply just say I didn't believe then I don't believe now.
Well, maybe maybe later, maybe some of the other stuff.
So as you may imagine, all of the stuff that again should be groundbreaking, should be
mind blowing, has not turned the tide of the media government or outside of his niche
following at this point, anybody really in the public.
But he wasn't done yet.
For years, Hogan would continue to study and obsess over the ruins on Mars and what it
means for humanity.
And fun fact, in 1976, he was actually the one to start the writing campaign named the
shuttle The Enterprise after his favorite show Star Trek.
He started that whole writing campaign to the president to get the first shuttle named
Enterprise.
That totally worked.
It did work, actually.
It actually was his claim to fame for a while.
But perhaps his biggest discovery would come in the early 90s.
The 80s were all about those mathematical equations, but the early 90s began to see,
I guess if you don't believe that he had jumped the shark yet, this might be your jump
the shark moment for our dear boy, David Hogan.
Clearly the world hadn't fully accepted his findings, but that didn't stop him.
He continued to obsess and study everything that he could, working and reworking his own
mathematical equations on the photos from the 70s.
What he discovered was that the photos actually held complex geometric patterns whose, quote,
purpose seems to introduce us to a set of equations opening up a whole new window of
physics, end quote, which Hogan refers to as hyperdimensional physics.
And in an issue of Omni Magazine, he actually goes further to explain, quote, these will
provide a fundamental connection between the four forces of nature, end quote, which would
then allow us to tap into an energy from potentially wholly new dimensions, bristling
up against our very own.
What?
What?
So does this, this is because of the way that the things are oriented in the photographs?
In the photographs that we took, those equations, the geometric patterns of not only the photographs
on obviously how things are positioned, but his own mathematical equations, he then discovered
that these are actually hidden equations that will open our world to a whole new window
on physics, which would let us tap into the four forces of nature on Earth and then possibly
tap into potentially whole new dimensions for energy.
This is crazy.
Does, does, is there, has any research been done into hyperdimensional physics?
Hogan has been.
Is he, is he like funding studies?
Is he, I mean, I don't know.
I wouldn't say he's funding studies.
He's, he's not doing much else than writing books, more or less.
Does he have money?
Like, is he rich?
I can't.
I actually didn't search into if he's a rich man or not.
I'm so interested in like whether he's like a crazy guy who's like using his resources
to like find his own answers, like Terence Howard, or if he's like, like, like if he's
like a con man, I think maybe your second one's a little closer.
My second one.
You're, you're the latter.
My bold new theory on Hogan.
But who knows?
Maybe he's right.
Maybe these are the aliens laid out some complex.
It kind of reminds me of like a little mass effect ish where like the aliens lay out these
complex equations and stuff for humans to eventually discover and unlock the potential
and interdimensional energies and the forces of nature here on our planet.
It's been there right in front of us the whole time.
It only took him 30 years to deduce it.
But that's, you know, for a genius, that's not that long.
So why would they cover something so world changing up?
Let's let's get into it, baby.
So unfortunately for Hogan, the media, scientists and governments of the world did not take
him seriously.
And his theories were being heard by just a small minority who basically believed
everything he said.
But if we've learned anything by now, if that nothing stops the hoax, in fact, Richard
Hogan wrote a book on Sidonia, the Sidonia region of Mars titled The Monuments of Mars,
a city on the edge of forever.
Did you read this book?
God, I excerpts of it, but God, no, not the whole thing.
I did not go out and buy that book.
I'm sure it's 80 pages long.
In the book, however, he dips to prove his theories that he's right.
Instead of kind of leaning on science, which you should, you should, yes,
generally, instead, he dips into Sumerian mythology to show and draw
lines between the pyramids on Mars and those of Egypt to assert the following six claims.
One, alien astronauts set up a base on Mars.
Two, those alien, those alien astronauts who set up a base on Mars then came to Earth
and abducted our evolutionary ancestors and brought them back to Mars.
Three, they then took those creatures that they abducted on Earth and created a race
of highly intelligent alien human hybrids, which lends credence to what we covered
in the hollow moon, hollow Earth theory where star children are being or we're
being abducted and creating star children and alien hybrids.
Perhaps it's been going on since the inception of very humanity itself.
Four, once those hybrids are complete, bring those hybrids back to Earth.
Five, be their tutors, teach them the finer points of civilization and how to
operate peacefully, which we've clearly failed.
Six, in the final point.
Are we the, are we the guy?
Are we the...
Oh, oh, don't jump ahead on me.
Left, six, they then left a picture of us behind on Mars so that one day we made
rediscover it and rediscover where we came from.
That's right, that we are actually the aliens on Earth.
So point of order.
Real quick, just, just throwing this out there.
Don't, Jesse, just open your mind.
Hold on.
Why would an intergalactic space faring civilization put the base on Mars instead
of on Earth?
Well, I'm glad you asked that.
We're going to talk about that here.
Okay.
Two, okay.
Why would they then go to Earth, kidnap people, bring them back to Mars?
They're not people, they're just like, like monkeys more or less.
Sure, but why not do all that?
It seems like there's a lot of travel and a lot of like, uh, in between is, are
they saying, I would love to ask Richardson Hogan, if he thinks that aliens
have like a bureaucracy, but they're like, well, article seven, section nine says
we can't actually go to Earth.
So we have to do this whole thing off of the books.
Well, let me bring them back.
Well, let me ask you this.
When you go to a convention, right?
Do you go into the hotel where the convention is that's filled with thousands
of people, or do you get your own room uptown a little bit so you can descend
upon the convention when you're ready?
You know what I'm saying, Alex?
You know the answer is I go to the convention.
Like I don't, I don't stay way uptown.
The convention, I want to go down there because I, like the aliens want to be
like, what up?
Well, well, well, uh, to your first point, uh, Mars and actually our solar system
was not quite what it once was.
Mars was actually a bustling planet filled and teeming with alien life.
Cities.
When, when is the theory on this?
Because when men were apes, Mars was still dirt.
You could be wrong on that though.
No, I am not.
If there was, if there was an organization committed to making it seem
like there was never a civilization on Mars, if you think about it that way,
it's possible that what we know, what does this organization gain from
keeping us dumb to that fact?
Uh, a mass panic on earth.
What would destroy civilization?
Yeah, no, wouldn't it?
If mass panic on earth and, uh, and, and just people kind of over, like what is
what, you know, people who believe in God, what does that mean?
Religion would be turned on its head.
I think it would.
I think it's more, I think it, I per, I do personally believe, whether I
believe this stuff or not, I do personally, if, if it came out, like the
level of conspiracy involved with this is so grand and on such a high scale,
it's impossible to be a cover up of this level.
It does, it literally government cover ups are exposed every day because
people are idiots.
Well, here's the thing, Jesse, no, no, here's the thing, here's the thing.
What if we are figuring out what if we have seen the proof?
Yes, we have interacted with aliens, but theirs.
But the government's job is to spread so much misinformation that they let all
this crazy kooky stuff go out there that it is impossible now for us as people
to separate fact from fiction.
Wait, wait, wait.
Listen, listen, I'm not disputing the fact.
I like maybe no one knows we're humanity.
Like no one knows the missing link aspect of humanity separate back from fiction.
Yeah.
Like, all right, sure.
Maybe aliens did come and like make us it.
That's not what I'm saying. That doesn't even matter in this scenario. What I'm saying is
there
the
the idea of
All of this that that the aliens would set up a base on Mars come to earth pull guys off of earth come
Then like train them send them back
But then stay on earth to teach them to be a civilization which is
Insane because why would they just build the base on earth and teach them there?
Logistics of the aliens civilization are so backwards. How are they the ones that taught anything? Okay?
Well, okay counterpoint. What if the reason that they're not they don't set up a base on earth or whatever or any of that stuff?
It's because we're kind of like a zoo to them
Well, they well sort of prime directive like half prime directive they mess with us in the back make a side
Yeah, they totally avoided the prime directive what if but what but if they don't have it
What if they're just treating us like a science experiment?
What if we're one of thousands of other alien species out in the universe that aliens are just kind of
Playing with their experimenting with but that's not
That's like that's not what they did is not an
Experiment what they did is they were like we're going to teach you and make you into a civilization
Okay, but in an experiment people watch you and they watch you forever
They're still watching right the assumption is then that they're still watching so so again again
Do you know what our asteroid belt is to get back to the Mars thing?
The assumption is
That 4.2 or whatever million years ago when men were still ape um however long they they came
The problem with any of this is that it doesn't
consider
Galactic timelines it literally is so earth-centered and full of poopy that it's literally just like they came
To get some apes in Africa mind you the vast majority of the world completely uninhabited why they were just like
You know what we're gonna build our base on Mars still still crazy to me
But then no matter what we have a base here. Well, no matter what no matter what
The matter what the planet Mars. Yeah, the whole idea that it was bustling with like life. It's
Geologically impossible
There's the other. Geologically impossible. Okay. Oh, well while while that made true
There's still the other theory that
What while Mars wasn't teaming with life what the asteroid belt is is a destroyed planet
That was destroyed during a solar solar system war between now that shit. I'd buy yeah
I'd buy that and that our moon was actually the moon of that planet
And then when that planet was destroyed due to the war that they had those who who went to Mars to set up a base
Either the moon itself drifted drifted naturally to earth and got caught in our on our gravitational pull or the aliens themselves
Nudged the moon in our direction because it would help facilitate life guys. I've been doing the math and I've been doing the research
Okay, okay, I know now truly what happened and I did you can read about it in my new book called war of the ancients
it's
Simple there was another planet called planet X and this planet was was
Filled with many cultures and many civilizations and a war broke out and they destroyed themselves and part of the planet
It exploded and molten orb and became the moon to our earth and those who fled the planet became the first citizens and civilians and
Cultures on planet earth done see how easy that is
It sounds right to me. It sounds like it could be easy. It sounds like it could be right
It sounds totally plausible, but we had evidence the pyramids on Mars the honeycomb structures the main road
We might be thinking about this
Totally incorrectly like we could be bacteria in the world of aliens like maybe they don't come here because to them going from one
Planet to the another is like
Thinking like they don't even need to do it like oh it could be true
We could be we could be you know that game. That's like
What's it called dreams whether you could just like create?
Skate yeah, yeah, we might we might just be a fucking illustrator file
simulation that's then why set up a base on Mars that all I'm saying is
Why do the one like all this to me is is a dude trying to connect dots to make a drawing when like
They're just isn't an image there
Right like it of course well they went to Mars when they did this and that's why they're pyramids on Mars
I mean, they're no pyramids on Mars. Well, what's the truth? Why don't we why don't we have record of this?
Well, let's get into it shall we well first of all let me just say if that plot sounds really familiar the aliens and all that stuff
That's because it's kind of the plot of 2001 a space Odyssey. Yeah parent thing saying it's not like an old
It's not like he created it. He clearly plucked it elsewhere
But he says he says he did a lot of things that he did a lot. He certainly says he did a lot of things
He says he invent he designed the pioneer plaque
Pioneer like you know the one that like Carl Sagan and everybody like made that he also
He also says he's the one that came up with the idea to drop a feather and like a hammer on
The moon at the same time because of gravity is like as bad as it is
They should drop at the same rate right when in fact
He wasn't the one to come up with that idea and that was actually like somebody else within NASA who came up with that idea
And it's cited in source. He also said he came up with something else that he didn't do and it's cited in a source
It's that somebody else did it and it's ridiculous
But but but you might be asking yourself the question as Jesse said
Certainly then if it's just that simple like if it's just a bad picture
All NASA needs to do is send out another probe to Mars and take newer a real pictures a real picture
To truly clarify what was there and you'd be right
Except NASA and the government as a whole is doing everything in their power to hide the truth
The Mars observe the Mars observer probe scheduled to snap new pictures in 1992
Famously failed just as it entered the orbit of Mars
But is it so simple as a technical failure or did NASA sabotage their own vessel to hide the truth from us?
No, because that was 92 and in 98 in 2001 they did but maybe the base
Maybe the base is on Mars because we can't get there
Maybe that's what the that's also true
The other the other leading thinking is they planned four billion years ahead
They were just like in a couple or million a couple million years
These guys are really gonna want to come see what we're up. Yo, the face was the finish line my dude. Yeah
Well, so the other the other theory like the theory that goes along with that is like what if I want to shake you
Shake you shake the idiot out of you. I just want to like
This is how we learn
This is how you make a bunch of idiots. This is so frustrating for me. It's so
What if what if during in 1992 NASA wasn't fully convinced that there were aliens there and that they did try and get some pictures
And then they actually got shot down by an alien force
And then the further attempts to take pictures there and out now knowing the truth
They were actively sabotaged by NASA or photoshopped or filed mis in correctly contact Stanley Kubrick before it's not right
Exactly, and they but they still have to keep sending out probes. Otherwise the public will get suspicious
Right because why would we ever stop going if it's if we're discovering stuff exactly so
Then of course the US isn't the only country that attempted this during the 80s and 90s in the 80s
The Russians sent two unmanned probes to Mars Phobos one and Phobos two the first of which failed before it ever reached Mars
It just kind of went kaput's on trend transit while Phobos two arrived in 1989
It actually took photographs and then suddenly quote
expired in one of the pictures that did make it back to earth from Phobos two however
There is a cigar shaped shadow that can be seen on the surface of Mars, and this is true
You can actually go look at this picture from Phobos two from 1989
And there is a cigar shaped shadow over Mars. However
While one could one could explain the irregularly shaped
Shadow as the natural satellite moon of Mars called Phobos that is already irregularly shaped and its shadows just being cast
It could also be a cigar shaped UFO vessel that shot down Phobos before it finished its job
And it would it wouldn't be the first cigar shaped aliens exactly heard of yeah, that's true
It wouldn't be the cigar shape to further help
To solidify that the government is trying to hide things there were two two letters from the government sent to NASA in the
60s that were uncovered that do say should they ever discover evidence of alien life or whatever that they would keep it
What do you call it?
secured
Classified classified it's a word there we go
Yep, they would keep it classified and away from the public that is actually true that actually did get sent out
But at the same time that is from the 60s and 70s and who knows if that's still holding true to this very day
I mentioned it on on the show before I can't remember
But there was some report about a think tank that decided that the way to do it with aliens is to like
Learn about them keep it secret and then like slowly introduce it into the public zeitgeist from all
Yes, yep exactly to do it via movies and comic books to get the idea of aliens not to be publicly accepted fully first
That way chaos doesn't spread fully amongst the people but
Back to good old David Hoagland here
That wasn't still enough people were still not convinced in 1992 not enough not enough to convince us still Hoagland was not done yet
In 1996 he held a press conference in DC to unveil 30-year-old suppressed evidence
Revealing artificial structures in the moon and Mars photos of astronauts walking among lunar ruins via leaked NASA and Soviet pictures
And he did hold that press conference and he did show those photos of
extraordinarily blurry
undecernable
maybe pictures of the moon and Mars and
nothing more that was new but he was
Going out of his way to truly convince us that
There we actually had photos of the Mars folk
Or should I say our astronauts walking around a lunar Mars on top of that
There are on off the record off the record accounts of
Astronauts who walked on the moon saying they were surrounded by aliens watching them that when they landed on the moon
spacecraft landed miles away from them and they could see figures in the distance
Watching them that is that is there is huh?
Who said this? Oh shit. I wrote his name. I have a name. I can find it really quickly
It's actually we're John Glenn John Glenn is one. Yeah, it's weirdly not uncommon for astronauts to talk about
Yep, John Glenn the famous sightings of unidentified bogeys including John Glenn's fireflies
And the luminous particles seen on many a space flight
But typically dismissed as wet blanket NASA cover-up artistry such as chip chip to paint
And there's there's one there's one
Audio recording of a space shuttle guy coming into orbit and he's like there's something coming up on our side
Yes, I've heard that like it's so crazy. Yeah, that's what keeps me on the edge of like believing is like having hearing like
Astronauts who go off the record and be like no dude. There's like crazy crazy stuff. Yeah
I'm so weirded out by that like I don't know what that is like
How could you be an astronaut and then turn around and just like go full lie? You know what I mean?
Yes, what's the point? Yep. I agree like a
Why I would take this whole theory as you know with a grain of salt the size of Georgia
There are the things that that do make me question and make me wonder and it's those
It's those firsthand accounts of of those. Yeah
The idea that something is on the moon or that something is on Mars is the idea that I'm willing to swallow from from this
But you know, it's I mean when the you know, the more what do you call it?
Like the more like resolution the idea has the more like detail it gets the harder
It is to like convince me of things but like man like the things that astronauts have said the
Consistency between reports that are unrelated that type of stuff always freaks me out
Were you the ones that linked me the the filed video or the audio file of the of the pilot that that was in
That's definitely something that was linked to us at one point that we probably sent to you. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, that that was wild to the one with the with the not the pilot
I think it was in a stewardess on an air lingus flight or something like that
They had something come up crazy on their wing and then somebody else had another pilot had also radioed in or oh, yes
Yes, I remember that. Yeah, yeah, that was that was really really cool
Well, this this goes back to the thing and I think it's fascinating about the vast majority of
Extraterrestrial whatever it is that we do yes, it's that
There is some stuff and this is why out of all things we talked about. I'm like, all right. I'll listen
There's some stuff that you know
There are only so many people have gone to space
They're only so many people who have actually looked at the stars and not just like been on earth
So when they say stuff you have to be like, okay, I'll listen to this
But with that said
The topic we're talking about is not that right. It's just not that
Well, maybe not to you Jesse. All right
It's all a cover-up. It's all the same the same people who are out there saying I saw
I'm part of NASA and I saw space men are the same people covering up the fact that there's stuff on it doesn't like there's no
There are disconnects. Absolutely. It's a strategy. It's a strategy. It is like that's that's imagine you get an email every morning
If you're like an ex astronaut from some black ops
Place that tells you here's what you say to the press today. Here's what you do today
Like there's like maybe there's a strategy there, you know, you never know
Well, one of the questions Jesse brings up
Why?
Jesse, you know, you love this don't even pretend. I just oh Alex
Oh, Alex, you're a monster if we ever ever end up doing this in a studio
I want I'm gonna have like a little note of how many times Jesse reaches over the desk to just slap Alex
I'm like mr. Smith like I'm going to Washington right now for all the crazy people out there
You guys owe me
You guys owe me I read all your emails. I read all your emails to the ones you send to the Chuluman Audi one
Oh, man, there's some good ones. I love you guys so much
So so Jesse's one of Jesse's questions was okay
Why us then like what what makes humans special and David Hogan being a man not David Richard Hogan rather being a man
To have an incredible intelligence. Well, how's that answer for that as well?
extrapolating from the ambitious claims of
David Hogan and the not so original motive behind the alien stalking NASA and why why are alien stalking NASA?
Well, it's quite simple humans are violent
They're warlike species and all we do is look for a reason to kill and once we
Develop not only the technic technology and I think I've mentioned this in previous alien episodes to split the atom and nuclear power and true mass destruction
Outside of that. We were now actually leaving earth
We were starting to explore the stars and that immediately set up a red flag for the aliens in that that now this this
Destructive species who does have harness the power of pretty destructive pretty nasty weapons now. We have to put them on our radar
They're not giving us a choice. So
These these missions that NASA been sending up as I said earlier actually just decoys to keep the population
Under the impression that we are still exploring space
Meanwhile, we are rendezvousing with aliens to make sure and ensure the government at the very least that we are
Not destroying one another and are not doing anything to have the aliens feel necessary to come down here and annihilate us in turn
To wipe us out and start fresh because if we get too nasty and we get too destructive
They don't want to deal with that did Rod Serling write this theory
Did who did Rod Serling write this theory Rob Sterling? I don't even know who that is. He's the Twilight Zone guy
He's like oh, yeah, I've really watched right the Twilight Zone man man's influence
It's like it's I don't know this this this idea to me is so
This one seems like Jesse always talks about how you know stuff seems like
Sort of self-centered on the part of humans. Yes, the one where we're just too bad-ass to let
To be allowed to live is is the most like this to me. This is like the Tom Cruise
like like version I
I think I agree. They keep jumping onto the side of airplanes and
Guys guys if you've gone too far if you if you guys just bonus
Chiluminati bonus episode go look for the trailer for the mummy that got uploaded by accident with no with like half
It's audio missing and you're gonna hear Tom Cruise screaming his lungs out with no
Reverb no, it's great. It's so good
It's one of my favorite and then you're gonna agree with aliens. You're gonna you're gonna wipe us out. You've gone too far. Yeah, yeah
Oh my god
Well, as I said, you know
Deviating a little bit away from Mars and focusing on the moon. What about the moon the moon there are cities on the moon
What if what if the moon isn't what we think it is?
What if the moon actually has an atmosphere is teaming with life to this day and everything
We're seeing is just kind of deserted wilderness that that that the aliens don't want us to see but there are actual eco
Domes on the on parts of the moon that we have never seen that are actually just well
Didn't China just land on the dark side of the moon though
China did. Yeah, actually. They really yeah, they just landed specifically on the dark side of the moon. Yep
You know, so they're definitely covering it up not humans a satellite of theirs. Oh my god, okay
I was like, yeah, there's a manned flight to the moon that I miss. No, no
But like a row here to pause it that the moon is hardly the desert that the lunar wasteland that NASA would want us to believe
It is all it's made of cheese
The moon is actually rather pleasant with a saffron colored sky
Vegetation animal life in certain temperate zones not all temperate zones
Snow-capped mountains covered with timber lakes rivers alien communities of varying sizes and natural anti-gravity
Monorails that bring people from from place to place on the moon
Do I have your attention? I'm interested like I want to visit it. How did they how do they know that like?
How do they have evidence to show monorails?
Well, the blurry photos of something
They don't
They don't
The evidence of this is a abductees being brought to the domes on into the communities on the moon and being shown
What true life here is before the abductees is being returned back to earth. I'm dead serious
One is Adam Adamanski. He was actually abducted by UFOs that looked like Nordic aliens like the Nordics that we spoke about
Okay, I wish you could see Jesse's face
listeners it's just it's a mix of disappointment that
I'm even saying these words and dare I say wonder a
Little bit of a childlike wonder sparked in his it's just keep going. I'm in let's do this
I've grabbed in for this one as for the cratering of the moon
They posit that a theory apparently out of all the heavenly firmament explaining that those familiar features are in fact the handiwork of
Sophisticated weapons used in a terrible war involving the moon which took place less than 30,000 years ago
Apparently taking a cue from you know Star Wars in George Lucas this high tech
These high-tech weaponry's were the very the very same tech that destroyed the planet that created the asteroid belt
The same things that are cratered the moon and was was heavily used during the solar system war amongst other aliens
That's why the moon looks like what it is. That's why it's so cratered aliens crashing in and using like an intergalactic paintball
That's what it was a paintball game and they ballerina our solar winner takes earth. Yeah, that's that's what the war was
They're playing for pinks. Yeah. Oh
God that'd be actually you know what I'd be okay with that if that was the actual truth
Aliens were like playing a game of war battle bots
Yeah, battle bots for earth for possession over earth and then we they can do with the with the creatures of earth whatever they want to do
I'm there. I'm for basically the plot of Mortal Kombat from what I'm hearing
That's actually
Fight over the earth realm. Okay
That's that's that's unfortunate. However, not only the moon and Mars hold alien life
NASA also might know the number of moons and planets in the solar system are inhabited by people with superior technologies
Not unlike the the bottle tech and they're the bottle job of Vesuvians
Which is like the the domes and stuff human saternians
Venous Venus Venus Venusians
Venusians there you go
Saturnians and Martians who spoke perfect
unaccented American English for those they abducted from what of course. Yeah the Martians they spoke perfect unaccented
American English are they saying are they saying that it's humans living in these places?
No, we are we are descendants from the Martians. Remember they they messed. I see. I well
I mean, I guess what I'm asking is are these more
Experiments that they're encountering or these more over these are so these are more non experiments in their accounting
These are coming from reports of those who are being abducted from earth to be shown
These domes by the aliens by these Nordics or Venusians or Saturnians or what have you and there's being tore it around and
Typically what these abductees are told that they is that they have been chosen to represent
Either the Nordics on earth and to spread the truth of what that they come in peace and that all this technology is real
Then then nobody ever listens to them because they sound crazy. They do sound crazy. That's unfortunate. That's a really good
That's a really good
Cover-up technique that they're employing
It's interesting that the aliens never abduct scientists
They typically always abduct kind of just the whole bunkie in the middle of nowhere people
That's why that that's why the astronaut thing is so convincing to me is because I to me
I feel like astronauts are basically fucking scientists like they're like, you know extremely educated about
physics and space and just like science in general and I feel like you know
That's that's a big convincer for me
Yeah, I'm with you. I'm actually with you on that for sure. I think most people could be
Part of the other theory of all these being abducted and stuff is that the aliens are also giving warning to them saying things that they
They can hope that
They that these people who are being abducted and bring brought back to earth are gonna help keep the superpowers in check
So that they don't go insane with military since if we ever bring our military to space that can lead us down a path of
complete and utter annihilation
If we end up trying to bring weaponry into space so that these people being abducted are supposed to be I guess
profit-like figures for the aliens to to bring peace to our nations or stop our superpowers from
From going to ham on the flip side supposedly aliens are already working with our government
So those two don't really kind of mesh those two ideas don't really kind of mesh unless that's what the government wants, of course
It's all about levels all disinformation man. What's exactly all about changing man, baby. Yeah, pretty much pretty much
There's another thing the exposed by a gaggle of whistleblowers here in the in the UK on Britain's
Angela TV
Alternate on something called alternative 3 which is a plot hatched that was largely fictional and actually drawn from a
fictional like a mockumentary that aired on on the TV what the idea was was alternative 3 was to take all those
People in power who have money wealth influence and to bring them into the safety of bunkers scattered throughout the earth
And then the world would be destroyed
Everybody would be wiped out save those selected few and then things would start fresh again
And then the aliens would come to earth and there'd be kind of this co-mingling this peace brought between the two people
Alternative one and two were similar ideas, but not to the extent that alternative three was brought to
While in while true alternative three was a satire a mockumentary a fake
Entertainment piece there are those who believe that this was actually put out because there's truth behind it
And so a book was written casebook on alternative three
Conspiracy century Jim Keith expertly debunks the poorly done science fictional hoax and then proceeds to demonstrate over the course of
159 pages that the British production was actually fiction based on fact that alternative three is
Right about one thing smart money is on the end of the world and those with money and influence will be saved for the second birth of humanity
Just like the movie 2012 I
Never seen it. There's like one ship and they all like Vi for
Position and like basically the Illuminati
Yeah, if you're super talented super smart or super rich you can get on board. That's pretty much it
And while it may sound insane that this alternative three there is there is precedent for it
In fact, have you guys heard of biosphere two? Yeah
Yeah, it is a biosphere in Arizona where a bunch of scientists are a bunch of people donning Star Trek jumpsuits sealed themselves on inside a domed
Ecosystem to see if it would work
And the biosphere
Authoritarian leader was a South a Southwestern cultist who initially described the experiment as the next phase in human evolution a
Preparation for humankind's inevitable migration to Mars. I'm sorry. What?
Yeah, that was the the I thought biosphere was funded by like a
Cultist let it know what the in fact the biosphere in an authoritarian leader was a Southwestern cultist who initially described the experiment as the next phase in human
Evolution, yeah, it is owned by University of Arizona now, but originally it did not start. It was just a private enterprise originally
I
Run by a cultist. Yeah, Southwestern cultist biosphere biosphere one was was hurt
According according to them. Yeah, according to them. We biosphere one is our planet
And by us we tear biosphere two is proof that dome cities will work. Yep, and they do work
Yep
How about that cultist not anymore it was it was it was run by a cultist. He's the one that started the whole program a
Cultist
Yeah, I don't know that I believe this he's a pretty crazy guy
His name is John P. Allen. I I was reading about this one day
You can look it up
What what no biosphere biosphere one is earth keep that in mind when did when did this happen one of the first?
What
Wow, I only know about the the actual scientific missions, I know oh
Yeah, he's a crazy person. Yeah, 2011 is when the University of Arizona bought it. Oh
Well, but hold on
No, we'll see there's biosphere to originally constructed 1987 to 1991
Yeah, there's a joint venture with John P. Allen and a bunch of other people but
From 91 to 93 a bunch of medical doctors and researchers lived in it and John P. Allen was not involved
No, he was in he was involved in the initial he just built. He just built. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Oh, you guys had me thinking that there was like a cult leader inside the thing make money or just when it was built
Just when it when it first came to be I don't
The veracity of these claims I question but all right
I'm gonna let you guys it's scientific now the point the point being a biosphere two isn't necessarily the cult leader and all that stuff the
Point being biosphere two is evidence that alternative three could be a real thing that bio bio
Spheres by dome cities like like Alex said can't work. There's a rainforest in there, man. It's crazy
It's in the desert. There's a there's a rainforest inside. Yeah, so like the point is like that's the proof that alternative three could happen, but
more or less that is the general coverage of the giant cover-up happening on Mars and the Lunar City in
That is everything that is that is happening there now what has happened in the past how we came to be
Hollow Earth and hollow moon technically still true
They still give they still give credence that there is a hollow earth and that there is a species in the hollow earth
And there's a better land there and all that good stuff and that some of the people that get abducted by aliens don't actually leave the planet
They actually just go to the center of the earth. We've covered that a little bit here
But the our solar system is teaming with alien life. We are just kept none the wiser because of Photoshop
Lying miss filing of paperwork government conspiracies and all that nonsense to hide
I would love I would love something that I believe to be central to my
Understanding of the world to just come crashing down. I think to me. That's why
Ideas like this are so attractive granted Hogan does a piece of shit. The guy doesn't yeah
Yeah, oh, let me let me clarify that I completely forgot to go over that part cuz I wanted to say for the end Hogan has no education
He never graduated high school. He he's just a guy who saw pictures in my opinion
If we want to get real saw an opportunity to yeah make himself the center of something and then
For following that found a way to make money off of it. He's written books. He's written in other books
Clearly he's still active today. I think his last interview was somewhere around 2015 2016 like he's still around. He's still doing this
This is all he does
But if you want to know that if you want to argue the veracity of
Day of Richard Hogan himself. There's not any he really doesn't have any he's a pseudo sign a lot of scientists call him
Pseudoscientist he's just a he's just a guy who as Alex said earlier was just kind of connecting dots and lines and seeing something
That wasn't really there
He especially lost me like I could almost buy a little bit like he sees
He sees him set like maybe some ruins like the pictures are really hard to tell
But once he started talking about the mathematical equations that lead to interdimensional energies and stuff
I'm like, alright
I just don't get it because you could take that picture from another angle and all the numbers will be different
Yeah, exactly. That's also true. That's also a hundred percent true
The aliens would have had to predict that we were gonna send a satellite right and hit it from that angle and all this other stuff
Or or maybe the aliens expected we were never gonna see it and we just caught it by chance like who you could always say
That's the thing with conspiracy theories, right? You can always say or this and you can't really disprove it
That's what makes them so compelling for a lot of people
Yeah, I mean I I feel it. I
The I don't really respond that much to the idea of cover-ups like
I think a lot of people get excited about like the idea of cover-ups
But like mm-hmm just the idea that that something like that could happen is exciting to me
And I'm just ready for that piece of information to come out like I always think like if I was just at like a Laker game
And then an alien just came in just came down in just among like
20,000 people and just dunked on
Yeah, that's that's when LeBron like his his his hollow his holographic cover-up dissipates
And he's like a Nordic gray or something his skin blows off and his skeleton is just like like platinum bones
And he just walks and he's an alien. I've been I don't know go ahead
I would love it too. I've been I've been knee-deep in alien stuff for the past couple of weeks
Obviously this a little bit lighter, but I've been reading
Closer counters of the fourth kind which actually just goes over the MIT hosted alien abduction conference back in the
Early 90s written by a physicist not by anybody at like not by some hack
He's like an actual doctor
Which is really interesting because he's talking he talks more about it like the case studies and in the similarities between
Between some of them and then going from that and then going into this it's just it's just such a 90 degree turn
So the problem with all this is that it's like dangerous and that
To delve into the world of conspiracy theory. Oh, yeah on such a level where you're like don't trust scientists
Because they're lying to you. Oh, that's that the
Like the slippery slope on that is something that we see now in reality where it's like don't trust scientists
News is just all working together like us. Yeah, and once you get into that then
There's no turning back real everything is fake and only as few select people are the ones who know the truth
And you have to trust them and it's like five nine times out of ten those the people grifted near ass you dummy
Yeah, those are the ones are those are the the the rich of C. Hoakland's who are like
Making claims that they helped make the pioneer plaque or like they're the ones who?
coined important phrases throughout hit like of course they're just gonna lie to you because
You don't believe the people who are telling you the truth
That's all and it's a it's dain. It's dangerous to go down this route
It is that's not to say that government hasn't lied before it's not to say that scientists haven't screwed up
It's not to say that there there could be aliens out there who are like I'm gonna go dunk on the brawn
It's not to say that's not true
But the minute you're like it's all a lie to cover up the conspiracy that there's a Mars base
Like once you're there, it's you're ready to you could believe anything. Yeah. Yeah, agree
That's dangerous. It's a bit in my it's a very clear line
You do not cross it because like you like Jesse said you lose all concept of reality at that point
Anything is possible to the point where?
You are you you've lost it's this like it just says dangerous. I think you can just leave it at that
It's very dangerous. Yeah, it's okay to do what we do
Well, we just fucking laugh at it and make fun of it
But you know me and Alex at at least that the three of us hold a little bit of a stronger
Hope or believe that aliens are real and even Jesse believes like aliens
There's very good chance that aliens are out there, but don't cross the line of of
Believe believe educated people. Yes, believe educated people
Which is why reading the Close Encounters of the fourth kind book which is written by a fucking physicist and as well and like co-authored by another scientists is
infinitely more interesting to read because everything's being presented as a science and a fact and there's speculation and there's not like
Aliens are doing it. It's it's just looking at the what they have for evidence and that kind of thing
Which is what makes things like project blue book way more interesting than these conspiracy theories
Because that's like actual government research going in. Yes, that stuff's fascinating where it's like the government said this or
Scientists said this and you're just like oh
Okay, like there is no cover up here. It's they researched stuff and it turns out
There might be something and that I think it's fun. That's that is cool
But for fun shit, I love doing this stuff too because it's hilarious and it's great and who knows you never fucking know
maybe one day we'll see we'll see
Alex courtside watching the Lakers as breaking news happens. The roof opens up a tall tall white
Emperor of the Zinthar Empire jump in and just don't see it's honestly. I'll take the I'll just take the tickets
You don't want to see a tall white dunk on the bottom. I don't know if I can handle it, man
I don't know if I can handle it. I
I'm gonna be real. I think even in basketball the tall whites would suck. Yeah, we already learned we already learned Larry Bird got bodied
Larry Bird is one of the greatest basketball players ever to live don't don't get it twisted but imagine
Imagine you're looking at the basketball game and then a dude materializes on the court everybody in this place sees it
That's the thing that's exciting to me. That was Space Jam. We've all seen it before they were cartoons
Space Jam was a documentary doing
Cartoon of Michael Jordan's in it guys. Come on. All right. Use your brains. Let's get out of here
Thank you guys for listening. That's the end of episode 21 of Chilluminati podcast. We love you guys
So much can I have it? Can I issue a question to the listeners?
Just it's equally your podcast hit me hit me back on Twitter guys. Should I do the Trump theory? Oh
The time should I go deep on it? Should I just?
Take it more seriously than I should I will say this and I let the viewers obviously the listeners answer for themselves
I'm very curious, but I will say this. I did a little tentative research
from reading it and
Already it begins to fall apart once you put a micro like a like a microscope on a microscope
You put under a microscope the book that they reference the one that dissolves the presidency and all this other stuff
It's actually like the reverse of what's happening today
Congress actually in that book dissolves the presidency because the president is looking into the corruption of Congress
So to save themselves. They just dissolve the presidency
Whereas it feels the opposite is what's happening right now, but he swore he was gonna drain the swamp and queue in on QAnon said
It's coming. Yeah, WG1 mega something. Maybe I'll do maybe I'll do a QAnon slash Trump time travel one. We'll see
I
Need to find I need to hit you guys or something. I need to like really blow your minds. I hate it needs to happen
I'm gonna get you I'm gonna get you and I want to be like do you believe in you like I do and I'm like idiot
I made it up. It's gonna happen. I'm gonna get you. I'm gonna get you. Have you uh, have you guys heard of missing 411?
No, what is that? That's gonna be our next topic that I'm doing missing what this book this book
I got it from one of our researchers. She has access to a library
This book is out of print. It hasn't been in print since 2012
It's about missing people that go missing in the same woods like every year the government has acknowledged it
It is it is an actual thing that is happening and they don't do much to save it and you can actually look
I'll show you boys. Oh, is this like in the woods in the back of national parks see?
Yeah, yeah, this is cool. Oh, this is cool. Missing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this is cool. I
Yeah, there is there is I think I like I've seen this or maybe I don't know you guys think you can if you have Amazon Prime
I'm pretty sure you can watch it for free. Oh shit. You want a preview?
Missing 411. This is gonna be this is one. I'm like deep diving into it may be a multi-parter. I'm very pumped for this one
I might go in this is gonna be cool
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This was just a math this episode. This was a math that goes crazy. I like that episode. I had a fun time
Yeah, it was a good time. It was a good time. So we'll be back sooner rather than later
Is there anything else I'm missing? Where's that everything?
Think we're good. I think you got it. Yeah, that's it. Cool. We love you guys. Thanks for listening. Peace out. We'll see you next episode. Peace out. Bye. Bye
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