Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 21 - The Moon/Mars Coverup

Episode Date: February 1, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:28 Caesar, love them back. Hello gentlemen, and welcome, welcome back to Chilu and Addy Podcast. We are now on episode 21. As always, I am one of your hosts, heck legal. We're legal to drink, but we've always been legal to serve. I thought you said regal, and I was like, wait, what does that mean? Regal, 21 years old, baby. What more do you need?
Starting point is 00:01:14 You're totally regal. Get your purple colors out. Come on, baby, royalty before you. Well, I don't like this voice. No, I don't know. I don't know what this character is. Not a fan. I'm a little nervous.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I don't like the monster lady from Monsters Inc. Oh, yeah. What's her name, Rosalina, or something like that? I have no idea. Rosalina. That's it. There you go. She's Rosalina.
Starting point is 00:01:37 From Nintendo there. As always, though, I am one of your hosts, Mike, and as always, I'm joined by Jesse and Alex. And today is an exciting day. You guys have been begging for it. We've dipped a little bit, but they've still been relatively grounded episodes on things that are funky, but have an actual history to them. But we're going out.
Starting point is 00:01:54 I want your tinfoil hats on. I want your conspiracy theory jackets on. And I want your chiluminati underwear tightly wrapped around your torso. And I want your pants. Do we sell chiluminati underwear? No, but we need to. So if you coming soon to anybody wants to sponsor us or coming soon, call us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Let's do it. Let's do the undies. I hear you. I see you. I wear you. So I don't, but I will. But today is a special episode because we're going back. We covered a little bit.
Starting point is 00:02:24 If you remember, gentlemen, let me take you back a few, a few months to some of the earliest episodes of chiluminati, a better time, a better time prior to the Tommy Patera trilogy, prior to the true evil. Yeah. Before we knew what was like before herald the doll before herald the doll, which by the way, he's still sitting over there. He's done nothing, nothing at all. I have not removed the tape off of his mouth.
Starting point is 00:02:50 However, give it time. Oh, Jesse's going to get something right now. Where he's going to get something. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You can't see another thing. This is another thing that happened.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Well, he's been getting sent a lot of things as well. Oh, yeah. This right here, this creepy football, supposedly football from the first Thanksgiving. It's terrifying. Maybe that's a little crack open at cox con. Yes, we should. We should just get the dirty on us, right? Just bring us things.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Yeah. Let's import that. Let's see how they do. This is from another land. But we covered initially, I think it was like episode three or so, two or three. We initially covered hollow moon, and then we discussed hollow earth pretty close to one another back to back. And there were a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And if you've seen DC's Aquaman, you know the hollow earth theory. Totally true. It's true. I've never, I haven't seen Aquaman yet. It's totally true. I don't know what that means. I have not seen that movie. I am now convinced to see it based on that.
Starting point is 00:03:49 I don't know what that is. It's part of the film. I'm just saying. Totally true. Well, I'm going to tell you that there are specular, there are bits and pieces of both of those theories that are true. But the most, most of it, I'm going to tell you is wrong. Not because science proves it wrong, because the whole while, the moon, the moon and Mars
Starting point is 00:04:09 and even some other planets in our solar system have been in holding alien life there. In this whole time. And this whole time. And NASA and the government has been covering it all up. And we're going to talk about why. Let me take you away from the land of truth and honesty and bring you to a land of extra truth and extra honesty. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Question. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Is this stuff you guys actually believe? Me? This? You want to do it? Can I?
Starting point is 00:04:35 Well, usually we have one of these things where you guys are like, this has got to be real. And I'm like, oh, this is stupid. And I'm curious because this stuff I actually know about, I think it's fascinating, but I do not. I will say I do not, I don't think, but maybe I don't know where we're going. I'm open to whatever. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Let's dive in and we can give our final opinions at the end. Okay. I'm just saying. Like I said, while the hollow moon and the hollow earth were incredibly convincing arguments, none are going to be as convincing as this. But where do we start? How far do I bring you back? Let me bring you back to 1976.
Starting point is 00:05:10 The year we got the photo of the monkey face on Mars. Oh, the face on Mars. Yeah. The classic. Yeah. Yeah. That was one of the tabloids. They put it as the monkey face on Mars.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I don't know that. Call it a monkey face. Well, it was just, you know, the tabloid to me, I'm thinking like Ray Bradbury, like Martian Chronicles alien face is what it looks kind of like a robot face, like a blank robot face. Yeah. A little humanist, a little bit. You can like your paradigm could easily kind of create a human face out of it.
Starting point is 00:05:40 But everyone knows this photo. And if somehow you don't know this photo, just go, go to Google and just Google face on Mars. It's like going to guarantee you the first thing that pops up. It's so famous. Yeah. You shouldn't know it. But this photo is actually just one of 18 photos that were taken on that particular expedition
Starting point is 00:05:58 to cover that part of Mars known as Sidonia or Cydonia. I don't know how you pronounce it. Sidonia as in the Knights of Sidonia. Yeah. Yeah. But I've also seen it written with a K as in instead of a C. So I don't know if it's supposed to be pronounced Cydonia, but I call it Sidonia and I'm sorry. Sounds fern to me.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Um, most of the image, most of the images were of good quality. And by that, I mean they were about 876 standard quality, which means about 820 feet per pixel. So each pixel on that photo was, was gigantic swaths of land. So how big is this fucking face? Right. Well, big, very, very, very big. And then the rest of the photos were actually worse and they were about 1800 feet per pixel. So those, the faces we see of the face on Mars are actually of the higher quality kind.
Starting point is 00:06:52 These were mostly used to study the surface of Mars and its landscape, but little did they know what they truly discovered was evidence of alien activity on Mars itself. And the first step toward unraveling the great NASA cover up of not only aliens on Mars, but also moon, the moons around Saturn as well, and Venus. Dennis Rodman. Elvis. All of them. They're all aliens.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So, so before we get to the cover up, what I'm about to say won't matter because it's a cover up. So clearly they have time to fake photos. Of course. But those of you who are curious, what it's been many, many years since we found this picture of a face on Mars, what clearly they must have gone back and in fact they have. They went back in 98 and in 2001 with much higher resolutions, they literally have a satellite up there called like the Mars Global Surveyor.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It's gone back repeatedly again. Could all be part of the cover up. It's all part of the cover up, man. Or they have much higher quality photos now and literally it's just like a Mesa. A mountain. Yeah, it's just a mountain. But the, the fascinating thing. They probably weren't looking in the right place.
Starting point is 00:08:00 No, NASA's photoshopping the photos. Yeah, clearly they're photoshopping the photos. But the fascinating thing has nothing to do with what it is, right? It's, it's like just a Mesa. Like you would imagine like a, like a bluff somewhere. But what's interesting is that there are many of them and they're all positioned in between this area that I guess was right along where an old ancient ocean would be. And so at some point in time, there's a massive ocean on Mars and it's gone now, whatever
Starting point is 00:08:30 that'll happen. And this would have been like beachfront property. And basically, I saw something like this on the early Google images, like off like Florida area, like lower East coast, where there was like forms in the Google mapping underground that looked like they were buildings before like a flood came. That's some interesting shit. Yeah. It's, it's, it's real fascinating to see that at one point Mars had water and there
Starting point is 00:08:57 definitely was probably 100% life that lived on Mars. I don't know if it was like, yeah, I don't know if it was like alien, like, hello, but stuff was going down and I'm much more fascinated with like, what happened to Mars, man? Well we can talk about what happened to Mars if you'd like, yeah, that's what we're going to get to. So let's all, and all of everything I say is going to be factual. So don't worry about it. And there's actually, you know, I think there was a one point, a meteor, a meteorite that
Starting point is 00:09:27 we had discovered or had landed that actually held like, like a single celled, like either or there are many people who believe the destruction of Mars is what prompted the population of like Earth with life. Like the thing where it like hit Mars and like a chunk came off and gave us our first microbes and whatnot. Yeah. Even the moon. People think that the moon was part of whatever nonsense.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Yeah. Yeah. Well, we're actually going to talk about our moon a little bit here. You know, there's like, like Jesse's already discovering there's a lot we could dive into and like really extrapolate, but we're going to just talk about one thing, the truth. So when you say that, I don't believe you. The less I believe it's the truth, man, you can't convince me. So shortly after the release of these photos, two computer scientists by the names of Vincent
Starting point is 00:10:13 De Petro and Gregory Molinar took them and digitally enhanced them with a computer technique that they themselves had actually developed. Again, this is all seventies computer tech. Keep that in mind early eighties at the very, at the very latest. So what they developed and that the technique they used, I didn't really deep dive into it other than the fact that they were computer scientists at the time and they just digitally enhanced them the best. This is like on a cassette tape or something.
Starting point is 00:10:36 Yeah. Like this is like old school, you know, digital quote unquote enhancement. But what they discovered was that not only did the landmass itself seem to form a humanoid like face, but the face also appeared to have details like pupils, teeth and even a hairline. And I will say, if you go look at the photos and I, you know, I was, I was looking at them as they were talking about them and I was researching them. You can kind of maybe see like a hairline. I don't see pupils per se and I don't really see teeth, but I can kind of see where they
Starting point is 00:11:12 see a hairline. So it looks, it looks like a hairline and more like a, like a pharaoh's hat. Yeah. Yeah. I agree. It's a much more that, but I see where they were, where they were. They have more data on, they have more data or they just enhancing just enhancing the NASA photos.
Starting point is 00:11:28 All they did was like scroll in a bunch. Yeah. Pretty much. It's not that high tech. No. It's very blurry and, you know, the intense, it's so blurry and pixelated, there's a lot to left up into your imagination. Again, 1970s science more or less, but those images, as far as Vincent and Gregory go as,
Starting point is 00:11:46 you know, as far as this story goes, that's where their story ends. They've served their purpose. They digitally enhance some photos, thought, oh, that is kind of interesting. And that was more or less where they left it. Again, those images obviously were released and enter the man who would perpetuate the theory from here on out. And even to the today continues to do exactly that. A man by the name of Richard C. Hoagland, who would come onto the scene and turn the
Starting point is 00:12:11 entire world on its head, or at least that's what he would hope. He had never seen the newer, more enhanced photos from, he had seen rather the newer, more enhanced photos from Vincent and Gregory. And while certainly bewildered and impressed by the face on Mars, Hoagland was more blown away by what he claimed to see a few miles south of the monkey face on Mars. Good old Richard here saw mile long pyramids surrounded by a fortress like structure and exposed honeycomb of floors and a main avenue surrounding a possibly town square of this Mars ruined city to the south of this face on Mars.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Town square. Town square, honeycomb like levels, pyramids that are miles long. And you can actually go ahead and Google that as well and you can go look up the images for it. What are these? There's a much larger photo than what most of us see is just a very close up of the face. But there's a much bigger photo and if you go down, look south. It's called the Sidonia pyramid complex.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yes. And yeah, I'm going to chalk this one up to 70s technology, but still it's, you know, it's fascinating to dream Richard in a fascinating to dream. You say dream Richard says science. Richard is the name we always use as the royal name for everyone together. Richard. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Listen Richard. Listen Richard. Don't be a dick rich. Don't be a dick rich. Don't be a rich dick. Also don't be a rich dick, which is clearly not what he's trying to go for as he's desperately trying to bring out the truth of the matter to the man masses. I don't know if this is the same photo or the old photo or what, but it's like it's
Starting point is 00:14:00 showing like a zoom in of the of the plateau. That's the face. And like when you zoom out on it, even now, it still kind of looks like a face. I mean, when you zoom in, you can see the features and that it's not a face. Well, one could argue that the face is there because of the time of day that the pictures were taken and the shadows cast on the actual mountain caused it to look like a face or it's just a face. Aliens made that we'll get into.
Starting point is 00:14:26 So this this information itself, if true, would be utterly groundbreaking. It would make headlines everywhere. Everything would be turned on its head. But if there's one thing I've learned about good old Richie Hoagland, it's that every time he suddenly discovers something, it's even more mind blowing than his previous discovery. Has to be. This wouldn't be the only thing that he would discover.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Rich is a modern mastermind. He's a genius. We'll talk about schooling a little later, but this man is quite intelligent. But if there's a it's it's it's let's go on to the next thing he discovered. Hoagland then went on to show that not only were these discoveries all important, but they were also connected in a way that he had not initially realized, taking a compass, a calculator and the five inch by five inch printout of the digitally enhanced picture. He shows a series of mathematical relationships between the face, the supposed ruins of the
Starting point is 00:15:23 city and the mile long five sided pyramid that he ended up discovering. Afterward, he describes that all of the key angles in the city and the pyramid point directly to the face, while other landmarks seem to correlate to the sun's rising during the summer and the winter solstice, of course. But this would only be the big of Mars of Mars. What the? You're not are you are you not already convinced? So yeah, he's saying the math.
Starting point is 00:15:53 What do you say? Yeah, oh, you're trying to look at the math. Yeah, good luck. But yeah, basically what he's saying is he he drew a bunch. The way I interpreted it by looking at these mathematical equations is he literally just drew a bunch of lines that seemed to him at the very least important and deduced from these lines and quote unquote equations that the city and the pyramid are pointing at the face and then the other points of the city and then the rest of the points of the pyramid
Starting point is 00:16:20 have something to do with the winter solstice and the sun's rising. This is like the JFK Abraham Lincoln back and to the left back and back and to the left. This is this is crazy. Are you telling me that you don't believe scientists Richie Hogan here? I'm not saying that I don't want to say that because I'm open to whatever. But I just am. This is I don't immediately look at this and think math. Well, that's why you're not seeing the truth.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Alex, you're right. You're right. I got to open your mind more. I got to I got to believe harder. Jesse, are you believing? No. Okay, so we'll continue then. Maybe I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:16:58 No, for me. I haven't convinced you yet. Are you sure? This is all actually happening. Am I sure? No. Are you sure Jesse that you don't believe yet? I definitely don't.
Starting point is 00:17:08 I am a long time listener of the many things Richard C. Hogan has been on. So I'll simply just say I didn't believe then I don't believe now. Well, maybe maybe later, maybe some of the other stuff. So as you may imagine, all of the stuff that again should be groundbreaking, should be mind blowing, has not turned the tide of the media government or outside of his niche following at this point, anybody really in the public. But he wasn't done yet.
Starting point is 00:17:40 For years, Hogan would continue to study and obsess over the ruins on Mars and what it means for humanity. And fun fact, in 1976, he was actually the one to start the writing campaign named the shuttle The Enterprise after his favorite show Star Trek. He started that whole writing campaign to the president to get the first shuttle named Enterprise. That totally worked. It did work, actually.
Starting point is 00:18:00 It actually was his claim to fame for a while. But perhaps his biggest discovery would come in the early 90s. The 80s were all about those mathematical equations, but the early 90s began to see, I guess if you don't believe that he had jumped the shark yet, this might be your jump the shark moment for our dear boy, David Hogan. Clearly the world hadn't fully accepted his findings, but that didn't stop him. He continued to obsess and study everything that he could, working and reworking his own mathematical equations on the photos from the 70s.
Starting point is 00:18:32 What he discovered was that the photos actually held complex geometric patterns whose, quote, purpose seems to introduce us to a set of equations opening up a whole new window of physics, end quote, which Hogan refers to as hyperdimensional physics. And in an issue of Omni Magazine, he actually goes further to explain, quote, these will provide a fundamental connection between the four forces of nature, end quote, which would then allow us to tap into an energy from potentially wholly new dimensions, bristling up against our very own. What?
Starting point is 00:19:06 What? So does this, this is because of the way that the things are oriented in the photographs? In the photographs that we took, those equations, the geometric patterns of not only the photographs on obviously how things are positioned, but his own mathematical equations, he then discovered that these are actually hidden equations that will open our world to a whole new window on physics, which would let us tap into the four forces of nature on Earth and then possibly tap into potentially whole new dimensions for energy. This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Does, does, is there, has any research been done into hyperdimensional physics? Hogan has been. Is he, is he like funding studies? Is he, I mean, I don't know. I wouldn't say he's funding studies. He's, he's not doing much else than writing books, more or less. Does he have money? Like, is he rich?
Starting point is 00:20:02 I can't. I actually didn't search into if he's a rich man or not. I'm so interested in like whether he's like a crazy guy who's like using his resources to like find his own answers, like Terence Howard, or if he's like, like, like if he's like a con man, I think maybe your second one's a little closer. My second one. You're, you're the latter. My bold new theory on Hogan.
Starting point is 00:20:29 But who knows? Maybe he's right. Maybe these are the aliens laid out some complex. It kind of reminds me of like a little mass effect ish where like the aliens lay out these complex equations and stuff for humans to eventually discover and unlock the potential and interdimensional energies and the forces of nature here on our planet. It's been there right in front of us the whole time. It only took him 30 years to deduce it.
Starting point is 00:20:55 But that's, you know, for a genius, that's not that long. So why would they cover something so world changing up? Let's let's get into it, baby. So unfortunately for Hogan, the media, scientists and governments of the world did not take him seriously. And his theories were being heard by just a small minority who basically believed everything he said. But if we've learned anything by now, if that nothing stops the hoax, in fact, Richard
Starting point is 00:21:20 Hogan wrote a book on Sidonia, the Sidonia region of Mars titled The Monuments of Mars, a city on the edge of forever. Did you read this book? God, I excerpts of it, but God, no, not the whole thing. I did not go out and buy that book. I'm sure it's 80 pages long. In the book, however, he dips to prove his theories that he's right. Instead of kind of leaning on science, which you should, you should, yes,
Starting point is 00:21:47 generally, instead, he dips into Sumerian mythology to show and draw lines between the pyramids on Mars and those of Egypt to assert the following six claims. One, alien astronauts set up a base on Mars. Two, those alien, those alien astronauts who set up a base on Mars then came to Earth and abducted our evolutionary ancestors and brought them back to Mars. Three, they then took those creatures that they abducted on Earth and created a race of highly intelligent alien human hybrids, which lends credence to what we covered in the hollow moon, hollow Earth theory where star children are being or we're
Starting point is 00:22:28 being abducted and creating star children and alien hybrids. Perhaps it's been going on since the inception of very humanity itself. Four, once those hybrids are complete, bring those hybrids back to Earth. Five, be their tutors, teach them the finer points of civilization and how to operate peacefully, which we've clearly failed. Six, in the final point. Are we the, are we the guy? Are we the...
Starting point is 00:22:54 Oh, oh, don't jump ahead on me. Left, six, they then left a picture of us behind on Mars so that one day we made rediscover it and rediscover where we came from. That's right, that we are actually the aliens on Earth. So point of order. Real quick, just, just throwing this out there. Don't, Jesse, just open your mind. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Why would an intergalactic space faring civilization put the base on Mars instead of on Earth? Well, I'm glad you asked that. We're going to talk about that here. Okay. Two, okay. Why would they then go to Earth, kidnap people, bring them back to Mars? They're not people, they're just like, like monkeys more or less.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Sure, but why not do all that? It seems like there's a lot of travel and a lot of like, uh, in between is, are they saying, I would love to ask Richardson Hogan, if he thinks that aliens have like a bureaucracy, but they're like, well, article seven, section nine says we can't actually go to Earth. So we have to do this whole thing off of the books. Well, let me bring them back. Well, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:24:09 When you go to a convention, right? Do you go into the hotel where the convention is that's filled with thousands of people, or do you get your own room uptown a little bit so you can descend upon the convention when you're ready? You know what I'm saying, Alex? You know the answer is I go to the convention. Like I don't, I don't stay way uptown. The convention, I want to go down there because I, like the aliens want to be
Starting point is 00:24:31 like, what up? Well, well, well, uh, to your first point, uh, Mars and actually our solar system was not quite what it once was. Mars was actually a bustling planet filled and teeming with alien life. Cities. When, when is the theory on this? Because when men were apes, Mars was still dirt. You could be wrong on that though.
Starting point is 00:24:58 No, I am not. If there was, if there was an organization committed to making it seem like there was never a civilization on Mars, if you think about it that way, it's possible that what we know, what does this organization gain from keeping us dumb to that fact? Uh, a mass panic on earth. What would destroy civilization? Yeah, no, wouldn't it?
Starting point is 00:25:20 If mass panic on earth and, uh, and, and just people kind of over, like what is what, you know, people who believe in God, what does that mean? Religion would be turned on its head. I think it would. I think it's more, I think it, I per, I do personally believe, whether I believe this stuff or not, I do personally, if, if it came out, like the level of conspiracy involved with this is so grand and on such a high scale, it's impossible to be a cover up of this level.
Starting point is 00:25:48 It does, it literally government cover ups are exposed every day because people are idiots. Well, here's the thing, Jesse, no, no, here's the thing, here's the thing. What if we are figuring out what if we have seen the proof? Yes, we have interacted with aliens, but theirs. But the government's job is to spread so much misinformation that they let all this crazy kooky stuff go out there that it is impossible now for us as people to separate fact from fiction.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Wait, wait, wait. Listen, listen, I'm not disputing the fact. I like maybe no one knows we're humanity. Like no one knows the missing link aspect of humanity separate back from fiction. Yeah. Like, all right, sure. Maybe aliens did come and like make us it. That's not what I'm saying. That doesn't even matter in this scenario. What I'm saying is
Starting point is 00:26:31 there the the idea of All of this that that the aliens would set up a base on Mars come to earth pull guys off of earth come Then like train them send them back But then stay on earth to teach them to be a civilization which is Insane because why would they just build the base on earth and teach them there? Logistics of the aliens civilization are so backwards. How are they the ones that taught anything? Okay?
Starting point is 00:26:58 Well, okay counterpoint. What if the reason that they're not they don't set up a base on earth or whatever or any of that stuff? It's because we're kind of like a zoo to them Well, they well sort of prime directive like half prime directive they mess with us in the back make a side Yeah, they totally avoided the prime directive what if but what but if they don't have it What if they're just treating us like a science experiment? What if we're one of thousands of other alien species out in the universe that aliens are just kind of Playing with their experimenting with but that's not That's like that's not what they did is not an
Starting point is 00:27:32 Experiment what they did is they were like we're going to teach you and make you into a civilization Okay, but in an experiment people watch you and they watch you forever They're still watching right the assumption is then that they're still watching so so again again Do you know what our asteroid belt is to get back to the Mars thing? The assumption is That 4.2 or whatever million years ago when men were still ape um however long they they came The problem with any of this is that it doesn't consider
Starting point is 00:28:15 Galactic timelines it literally is so earth-centered and full of poopy that it's literally just like they came To get some apes in Africa mind you the vast majority of the world completely uninhabited why they were just like You know what we're gonna build our base on Mars still still crazy to me But then no matter what we have a base here. Well, no matter what no matter what The matter what the planet Mars. Yeah, the whole idea that it was bustling with like life. It's Geologically impossible There's the other. Geologically impossible. Okay. Oh, well while while that made true There's still the other theory that
Starting point is 00:28:53 What while Mars wasn't teaming with life what the asteroid belt is is a destroyed planet That was destroyed during a solar solar system war between now that shit. I'd buy yeah I'd buy that and that our moon was actually the moon of that planet And then when that planet was destroyed due to the war that they had those who who went to Mars to set up a base Either the moon itself drifted drifted naturally to earth and got caught in our on our gravitational pull or the aliens themselves Nudged the moon in our direction because it would help facilitate life guys. I've been doing the math and I've been doing the research Okay, okay, I know now truly what happened and I did you can read about it in my new book called war of the ancients it's
Starting point is 00:29:35 Simple there was another planet called planet X and this planet was was Filled with many cultures and many civilizations and a war broke out and they destroyed themselves and part of the planet It exploded and molten orb and became the moon to our earth and those who fled the planet became the first citizens and civilians and Cultures on planet earth done see how easy that is It sounds right to me. It sounds like it could be easy. It sounds like it could be right It sounds totally plausible, but we had evidence the pyramids on Mars the honeycomb structures the main road We might be thinking about this Totally incorrectly like we could be bacteria in the world of aliens like maybe they don't come here because to them going from one
Starting point is 00:30:23 Planet to the another is like Thinking like they don't even need to do it like oh it could be true We could be we could be you know that game. That's like What's it called dreams whether you could just like create? Skate yeah, yeah, we might we might just be a fucking illustrator file simulation that's then why set up a base on Mars that all I'm saying is Why do the one like all this to me is is a dude trying to connect dots to make a drawing when like They're just isn't an image there
Starting point is 00:30:57 Right like it of course well they went to Mars when they did this and that's why they're pyramids on Mars I mean, they're no pyramids on Mars. Well, what's the truth? Why don't we why don't we have record of this? Well, let's get into it shall we well first of all let me just say if that plot sounds really familiar the aliens and all that stuff That's because it's kind of the plot of 2001 a space Odyssey. Yeah parent thing saying it's not like an old It's not like he created it. He clearly plucked it elsewhere But he says he says he did a lot of things that he did a lot. He certainly says he did a lot of things He says he invent he designed the pioneer plaque Pioneer like you know the one that like Carl Sagan and everybody like made that he also
Starting point is 00:31:38 He also says he's the one that came up with the idea to drop a feather and like a hammer on The moon at the same time because of gravity is like as bad as it is They should drop at the same rate right when in fact He wasn't the one to come up with that idea and that was actually like somebody else within NASA who came up with that idea And it's cited in source. He also said he came up with something else that he didn't do and it's cited in a source It's that somebody else did it and it's ridiculous But but but you might be asking yourself the question as Jesse said Certainly then if it's just that simple like if it's just a bad picture
Starting point is 00:32:07 All NASA needs to do is send out another probe to Mars and take newer a real pictures a real picture To truly clarify what was there and you'd be right Except NASA and the government as a whole is doing everything in their power to hide the truth The Mars observe the Mars observer probe scheduled to snap new pictures in 1992 Famously failed just as it entered the orbit of Mars But is it so simple as a technical failure or did NASA sabotage their own vessel to hide the truth from us? No, because that was 92 and in 98 in 2001 they did but maybe the base Maybe the base is on Mars because we can't get there
Starting point is 00:32:45 Maybe that's what the that's also true The other the other leading thinking is they planned four billion years ahead They were just like in a couple or million a couple million years These guys are really gonna want to come see what we're up. Yo, the face was the finish line my dude. Yeah Well, so the other the other theory like the theory that goes along with that is like what if I want to shake you Shake you shake the idiot out of you. I just want to like This is how we learn This is how you make a bunch of idiots. This is so frustrating for me. It's so
Starting point is 00:33:20 What if what if during in 1992 NASA wasn't fully convinced that there were aliens there and that they did try and get some pictures And then they actually got shot down by an alien force And then the further attempts to take pictures there and out now knowing the truth They were actively sabotaged by NASA or photoshopped or filed mis in correctly contact Stanley Kubrick before it's not right Exactly, and they but they still have to keep sending out probes. Otherwise the public will get suspicious Right because why would we ever stop going if it's if we're discovering stuff exactly so Then of course the US isn't the only country that attempted this during the 80s and 90s in the 80s The Russians sent two unmanned probes to Mars Phobos one and Phobos two the first of which failed before it ever reached Mars
Starting point is 00:34:05 It just kind of went kaput's on trend transit while Phobos two arrived in 1989 It actually took photographs and then suddenly quote expired in one of the pictures that did make it back to earth from Phobos two however There is a cigar shaped shadow that can be seen on the surface of Mars, and this is true You can actually go look at this picture from Phobos two from 1989 And there is a cigar shaped shadow over Mars. However While one could one could explain the irregularly shaped Shadow as the natural satellite moon of Mars called Phobos that is already irregularly shaped and its shadows just being cast
Starting point is 00:34:44 It could also be a cigar shaped UFO vessel that shot down Phobos before it finished its job And it would it wouldn't be the first cigar shaped aliens exactly heard of yeah, that's true It wouldn't be the cigar shape to further help To solidify that the government is trying to hide things there were two two letters from the government sent to NASA in the 60s that were uncovered that do say should they ever discover evidence of alien life or whatever that they would keep it What do you call it? secured Classified classified it's a word there we go
Starting point is 00:35:16 Yep, they would keep it classified and away from the public that is actually true that actually did get sent out But at the same time that is from the 60s and 70s and who knows if that's still holding true to this very day I mentioned it on on the show before I can't remember But there was some report about a think tank that decided that the way to do it with aliens is to like Learn about them keep it secret and then like slowly introduce it into the public zeitgeist from all Yes, yep exactly to do it via movies and comic books to get the idea of aliens not to be publicly accepted fully first That way chaos doesn't spread fully amongst the people but Back to good old David Hoagland here
Starting point is 00:36:00 That wasn't still enough people were still not convinced in 1992 not enough not enough to convince us still Hoagland was not done yet In 1996 he held a press conference in DC to unveil 30-year-old suppressed evidence Revealing artificial structures in the moon and Mars photos of astronauts walking among lunar ruins via leaked NASA and Soviet pictures And he did hold that press conference and he did show those photos of extraordinarily blurry undecernable maybe pictures of the moon and Mars and nothing more that was new but he was
Starting point is 00:36:36 Going out of his way to truly convince us that There we actually had photos of the Mars folk Or should I say our astronauts walking around a lunar Mars on top of that There are on off the record off the record accounts of Astronauts who walked on the moon saying they were surrounded by aliens watching them that when they landed on the moon spacecraft landed miles away from them and they could see figures in the distance Watching them that is that is there is huh? Who said this? Oh shit. I wrote his name. I have a name. I can find it really quickly
Starting point is 00:37:13 It's actually we're John Glenn John Glenn is one. Yeah, it's weirdly not uncommon for astronauts to talk about Yep, John Glenn the famous sightings of unidentified bogeys including John Glenn's fireflies And the luminous particles seen on many a space flight But typically dismissed as wet blanket NASA cover-up artistry such as chip chip to paint And there's there's one there's one Audio recording of a space shuttle guy coming into orbit and he's like there's something coming up on our side Yes, I've heard that like it's so crazy. Yeah, that's what keeps me on the edge of like believing is like having hearing like Astronauts who go off the record and be like no dude. There's like crazy crazy stuff. Yeah
Starting point is 00:37:57 I'm so weirded out by that like I don't know what that is like How could you be an astronaut and then turn around and just like go full lie? You know what I mean? Yes, what's the point? Yep. I agree like a Why I would take this whole theory as you know with a grain of salt the size of Georgia There are the things that that do make me question and make me wonder and it's those It's those firsthand accounts of of those. Yeah The idea that something is on the moon or that something is on Mars is the idea that I'm willing to swallow from from this But you know, it's I mean when the you know, the more what do you call it?
Starting point is 00:38:37 Like the more like resolution the idea has the more like detail it gets the harder It is to like convince me of things but like man like the things that astronauts have said the Consistency between reports that are unrelated that type of stuff always freaks me out Were you the ones that linked me the the filed video or the audio file of the of the pilot that that was in That's definitely something that was linked to us at one point that we probably sent to you. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, that that was wild to the one with the with the not the pilot I think it was in a stewardess on an air lingus flight or something like that They had something come up crazy on their wing and then somebody else had another pilot had also radioed in or oh, yes
Starting point is 00:39:16 Yes, I remember that. Yeah, yeah, that was that was really really cool Well, this this goes back to the thing and I think it's fascinating about the vast majority of Extraterrestrial whatever it is that we do yes, it's that There is some stuff and this is why out of all things we talked about. I'm like, all right. I'll listen There's some stuff that you know There are only so many people have gone to space They're only so many people who have actually looked at the stars and not just like been on earth So when they say stuff you have to be like, okay, I'll listen to this
Starting point is 00:39:50 But with that said The topic we're talking about is not that right. It's just not that Well, maybe not to you Jesse. All right It's all a cover-up. It's all the same the same people who are out there saying I saw I'm part of NASA and I saw space men are the same people covering up the fact that there's stuff on it doesn't like there's no There are disconnects. Absolutely. It's a strategy. It's a strategy. It is like that's that's imagine you get an email every morning If you're like an ex astronaut from some black ops Place that tells you here's what you say to the press today. Here's what you do today
Starting point is 00:40:26 Like there's like maybe there's a strategy there, you know, you never know Well, one of the questions Jesse brings up Why? Jesse, you know, you love this don't even pretend. I just oh Alex Oh, Alex, you're a monster if we ever ever end up doing this in a studio I want I'm gonna have like a little note of how many times Jesse reaches over the desk to just slap Alex I'm like mr. Smith like I'm going to Washington right now for all the crazy people out there You guys owe me
Starting point is 00:40:54 You guys owe me I read all your emails. I read all your emails to the ones you send to the Chuluman Audi one Oh, man, there's some good ones. I love you guys so much So so Jesse's one of Jesse's questions was okay Why us then like what what makes humans special and David Hogan being a man not David Richard Hogan rather being a man To have an incredible intelligence. Well, how's that answer for that as well? extrapolating from the ambitious claims of David Hogan and the not so original motive behind the alien stalking NASA and why why are alien stalking NASA? Well, it's quite simple humans are violent
Starting point is 00:41:28 They're warlike species and all we do is look for a reason to kill and once we Develop not only the technic technology and I think I've mentioned this in previous alien episodes to split the atom and nuclear power and true mass destruction Outside of that. We were now actually leaving earth We were starting to explore the stars and that immediately set up a red flag for the aliens in that that now this this Destructive species who does have harness the power of pretty destructive pretty nasty weapons now. We have to put them on our radar They're not giving us a choice. So These these missions that NASA been sending up as I said earlier actually just decoys to keep the population Under the impression that we are still exploring space
Starting point is 00:42:07 Meanwhile, we are rendezvousing with aliens to make sure and ensure the government at the very least that we are Not destroying one another and are not doing anything to have the aliens feel necessary to come down here and annihilate us in turn To wipe us out and start fresh because if we get too nasty and we get too destructive They don't want to deal with that did Rod Serling write this theory Did who did Rod Serling write this theory Rob Sterling? I don't even know who that is. He's the Twilight Zone guy He's like oh, yeah, I've really watched right the Twilight Zone man man's influence It's like it's I don't know this this this idea to me is so This one seems like Jesse always talks about how you know stuff seems like
Starting point is 00:42:48 Sort of self-centered on the part of humans. Yes, the one where we're just too bad-ass to let To be allowed to live is is the most like this to me. This is like the Tom Cruise like like version I I think I agree. They keep jumping onto the side of airplanes and Guys guys if you've gone too far if you if you guys just bonus Chiluminati bonus episode go look for the trailer for the mummy that got uploaded by accident with no with like half It's audio missing and you're gonna hear Tom Cruise screaming his lungs out with no Reverb no, it's great. It's so good
Starting point is 00:43:31 It's one of my favorite and then you're gonna agree with aliens. You're gonna you're gonna wipe us out. You've gone too far. Yeah, yeah Oh my god Well, as I said, you know Deviating a little bit away from Mars and focusing on the moon. What about the moon the moon there are cities on the moon What if what if the moon isn't what we think it is? What if the moon actually has an atmosphere is teaming with life to this day and everything We're seeing is just kind of deserted wilderness that that that the aliens don't want us to see but there are actual eco Domes on the on parts of the moon that we have never seen that are actually just well
Starting point is 00:44:09 Didn't China just land on the dark side of the moon though China did. Yeah, actually. They really yeah, they just landed specifically on the dark side of the moon. Yep You know, so they're definitely covering it up not humans a satellite of theirs. Oh my god, okay I was like, yeah, there's a manned flight to the moon that I miss. No, no But like a row here to pause it that the moon is hardly the desert that the lunar wasteland that NASA would want us to believe It is all it's made of cheese The moon is actually rather pleasant with a saffron colored sky Vegetation animal life in certain temperate zones not all temperate zones
Starting point is 00:44:47 Snow-capped mountains covered with timber lakes rivers alien communities of varying sizes and natural anti-gravity Monorails that bring people from from place to place on the moon Do I have your attention? I'm interested like I want to visit it. How did they how do they know that like? How do they have evidence to show monorails? Well, the blurry photos of something They don't They don't The evidence of this is a abductees being brought to the domes on into the communities on the moon and being shown
Starting point is 00:45:22 What true life here is before the abductees is being returned back to earth. I'm dead serious One is Adam Adamanski. He was actually abducted by UFOs that looked like Nordic aliens like the Nordics that we spoke about Okay, I wish you could see Jesse's face listeners it's just it's a mix of disappointment that I'm even saying these words and dare I say wonder a Little bit of a childlike wonder sparked in his it's just keep going. I'm in let's do this I've grabbed in for this one as for the cratering of the moon They posit that a theory apparently out of all the heavenly firmament explaining that those familiar features are in fact the handiwork of
Starting point is 00:46:04 Sophisticated weapons used in a terrible war involving the moon which took place less than 30,000 years ago Apparently taking a cue from you know Star Wars in George Lucas this high tech These high-tech weaponry's were the very the very same tech that destroyed the planet that created the asteroid belt The same things that are cratered the moon and was was heavily used during the solar system war amongst other aliens That's why the moon looks like what it is. That's why it's so cratered aliens crashing in and using like an intergalactic paintball That's what it was a paintball game and they ballerina our solar winner takes earth. Yeah, that's that's what the war was They're playing for pinks. Yeah. Oh God that'd be actually you know what I'd be okay with that if that was the actual truth
Starting point is 00:46:51 Aliens were like playing a game of war battle bots Yeah, battle bots for earth for possession over earth and then we they can do with the with the creatures of earth whatever they want to do I'm there. I'm for basically the plot of Mortal Kombat from what I'm hearing That's actually Fight over the earth realm. Okay That's that's that's unfortunate. However, not only the moon and Mars hold alien life NASA also might know the number of moons and planets in the solar system are inhabited by people with superior technologies Not unlike the the bottle tech and they're the bottle job of Vesuvians
Starting point is 00:47:27 Which is like the the domes and stuff human saternians Venous Venus Venus Venusians Venusians there you go Saturnians and Martians who spoke perfect unaccented American English for those they abducted from what of course. Yeah the Martians they spoke perfect unaccented American English are they saying are they saying that it's humans living in these places? No, we are we are descendants from the Martians. Remember they they messed. I see. I well I mean, I guess what I'm asking is are these more
Starting point is 00:48:03 Experiments that they're encountering or these more over these are so these are more non experiments in their accounting These are coming from reports of those who are being abducted from earth to be shown These domes by the aliens by these Nordics or Venusians or Saturnians or what have you and there's being tore it around and Typically what these abductees are told that they is that they have been chosen to represent Either the Nordics on earth and to spread the truth of what that they come in peace and that all this technology is real Then then nobody ever listens to them because they sound crazy. They do sound crazy. That's unfortunate. That's a really good That's a really good Cover-up technique that they're employing
Starting point is 00:48:44 It's interesting that the aliens never abduct scientists They typically always abduct kind of just the whole bunkie in the middle of nowhere people That's why that that's why the astronaut thing is so convincing to me is because I to me I feel like astronauts are basically fucking scientists like they're like, you know extremely educated about physics and space and just like science in general and I feel like you know That's that's a big convincer for me Yeah, I'm with you. I'm actually with you on that for sure. I think most people could be Part of the other theory of all these being abducted and stuff is that the aliens are also giving warning to them saying things that they
Starting point is 00:49:24 They can hope that They that these people who are being abducted and bring brought back to earth are gonna help keep the superpowers in check So that they don't go insane with military since if we ever bring our military to space that can lead us down a path of complete and utter annihilation If we end up trying to bring weaponry into space so that these people being abducted are supposed to be I guess profit-like figures for the aliens to to bring peace to our nations or stop our superpowers from From going to ham on the flip side supposedly aliens are already working with our government So those two don't really kind of mesh those two ideas don't really kind of mesh unless that's what the government wants, of course
Starting point is 00:50:05 It's all about levels all disinformation man. What's exactly all about changing man, baby. Yeah, pretty much pretty much There's another thing the exposed by a gaggle of whistleblowers here in the in the UK on Britain's Angela TV Alternate on something called alternative 3 which is a plot hatched that was largely fictional and actually drawn from a fictional like a mockumentary that aired on on the TV what the idea was was alternative 3 was to take all those People in power who have money wealth influence and to bring them into the safety of bunkers scattered throughout the earth And then the world would be destroyed Everybody would be wiped out save those selected few and then things would start fresh again
Starting point is 00:50:50 And then the aliens would come to earth and there'd be kind of this co-mingling this peace brought between the two people Alternative one and two were similar ideas, but not to the extent that alternative three was brought to While in while true alternative three was a satire a mockumentary a fake Entertainment piece there are those who believe that this was actually put out because there's truth behind it And so a book was written casebook on alternative three Conspiracy century Jim Keith expertly debunks the poorly done science fictional hoax and then proceeds to demonstrate over the course of 159 pages that the British production was actually fiction based on fact that alternative three is Right about one thing smart money is on the end of the world and those with money and influence will be saved for the second birth of humanity
Starting point is 00:51:42 Just like the movie 2012 I Never seen it. There's like one ship and they all like Vi for Position and like basically the Illuminati Yeah, if you're super talented super smart or super rich you can get on board. That's pretty much it And while it may sound insane that this alternative three there is there is precedent for it In fact, have you guys heard of biosphere two? Yeah Yeah, it is a biosphere in Arizona where a bunch of scientists are a bunch of people donning Star Trek jumpsuits sealed themselves on inside a domed Ecosystem to see if it would work
Starting point is 00:52:19 And the biosphere Authoritarian leader was a South a Southwestern cultist who initially described the experiment as the next phase in human evolution a Preparation for humankind's inevitable migration to Mars. I'm sorry. What? Yeah, that was the the I thought biosphere was funded by like a Cultist let it know what the in fact the biosphere in an authoritarian leader was a Southwestern cultist who initially described the experiment as the next phase in human Evolution, yeah, it is owned by University of Arizona now, but originally it did not start. It was just a private enterprise originally I Run by a cultist. Yeah, Southwestern cultist biosphere biosphere one was was hurt
Starting point is 00:53:10 According according to them. Yeah, according to them. We biosphere one is our planet And by us we tear biosphere two is proof that dome cities will work. Yep, and they do work Yep How about that cultist not anymore it was it was it was run by a cultist. He's the one that started the whole program a Cultist Yeah, I don't know that I believe this he's a pretty crazy guy His name is John P. Allen. I I was reading about this one day You can look it up
Starting point is 00:53:53 What what no biosphere biosphere one is earth keep that in mind when did when did this happen one of the first? What Wow, I only know about the the actual scientific missions, I know oh Yeah, he's a crazy person. Yeah, 2011 is when the University of Arizona bought it. Oh Well, but hold on No, we'll see there's biosphere to originally constructed 1987 to 1991 Yeah, there's a joint venture with John P. Allen and a bunch of other people but From 91 to 93 a bunch of medical doctors and researchers lived in it and John P. Allen was not involved
Starting point is 00:54:35 No, he was in he was involved in the initial he just built. He just built. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Oh, you guys had me thinking that there was like a cult leader inside the thing make money or just when it was built Just when it when it first came to be I don't The veracity of these claims I question but all right I'm gonna let you guys it's scientific now the point the point being a biosphere two isn't necessarily the cult leader and all that stuff the Point being biosphere two is evidence that alternative three could be a real thing that bio bio Spheres by dome cities like like Alex said can't work. There's a rainforest in there, man. It's crazy It's in the desert. There's a there's a rainforest inside. Yeah, so like the point is like that's the proof that alternative three could happen, but
Starting point is 00:55:20 more or less that is the general coverage of the giant cover-up happening on Mars and the Lunar City in That is everything that is that is happening there now what has happened in the past how we came to be Hollow Earth and hollow moon technically still true They still give they still give credence that there is a hollow earth and that there is a species in the hollow earth And there's a better land there and all that good stuff and that some of the people that get abducted by aliens don't actually leave the planet They actually just go to the center of the earth. We've covered that a little bit here But the our solar system is teaming with alien life. We are just kept none the wiser because of Photoshop Lying miss filing of paperwork government conspiracies and all that nonsense to hide
Starting point is 00:56:01 I would love I would love something that I believe to be central to my Understanding of the world to just come crashing down. I think to me. That's why Ideas like this are so attractive granted Hogan does a piece of shit. The guy doesn't yeah Yeah, oh, let me let me clarify that I completely forgot to go over that part cuz I wanted to say for the end Hogan has no education He never graduated high school. He he's just a guy who saw pictures in my opinion If we want to get real saw an opportunity to yeah make himself the center of something and then For following that found a way to make money off of it. He's written books. He's written in other books Clearly he's still active today. I think his last interview was somewhere around 2015 2016 like he's still around. He's still doing this
Starting point is 00:56:47 This is all he does But if you want to know that if you want to argue the veracity of Day of Richard Hogan himself. There's not any he really doesn't have any he's a pseudo sign a lot of scientists call him Pseudoscientist he's just a he's just a guy who as Alex said earlier was just kind of connecting dots and lines and seeing something That wasn't really there He especially lost me like I could almost buy a little bit like he sees He sees him set like maybe some ruins like the pictures are really hard to tell But once he started talking about the mathematical equations that lead to interdimensional energies and stuff
Starting point is 00:57:24 I'm like, alright I just don't get it because you could take that picture from another angle and all the numbers will be different Yeah, exactly. That's also true. That's also a hundred percent true The aliens would have had to predict that we were gonna send a satellite right and hit it from that angle and all this other stuff Or or maybe the aliens expected we were never gonna see it and we just caught it by chance like who you could always say That's the thing with conspiracy theories, right? You can always say or this and you can't really disprove it That's what makes them so compelling for a lot of people Yeah, I mean I I feel it. I
Starting point is 00:57:55 The I don't really respond that much to the idea of cover-ups like I think a lot of people get excited about like the idea of cover-ups But like mm-hmm just the idea that that something like that could happen is exciting to me And I'm just ready for that piece of information to come out like I always think like if I was just at like a Laker game And then an alien just came in just came down in just among like 20,000 people and just dunked on Yeah, that's that's when LeBron like his his his hollow his holographic cover-up dissipates And he's like a Nordic gray or something his skin blows off and his skeleton is just like like platinum bones
Starting point is 00:58:34 And he just walks and he's an alien. I've been I don't know go ahead I would love it too. I've been I've been knee-deep in alien stuff for the past couple of weeks Obviously this a little bit lighter, but I've been reading Closer counters of the fourth kind which actually just goes over the MIT hosted alien abduction conference back in the Early 90s written by a physicist not by anybody at like not by some hack He's like an actual doctor Which is really interesting because he's talking he talks more about it like the case studies and in the similarities between Between some of them and then going from that and then going into this it's just it's just such a 90 degree turn
Starting point is 00:59:08 So the problem with all this is that it's like dangerous and that To delve into the world of conspiracy theory. Oh, yeah on such a level where you're like don't trust scientists Because they're lying to you. Oh, that's that the Like the slippery slope on that is something that we see now in reality where it's like don't trust scientists News is just all working together like us. Yeah, and once you get into that then There's no turning back real everything is fake and only as few select people are the ones who know the truth And you have to trust them and it's like five nine times out of ten those the people grifted near ass you dummy Yeah, those are the ones are those are the the the rich of C. Hoakland's who are like
Starting point is 00:59:52 Making claims that they helped make the pioneer plaque or like they're the ones who? coined important phrases throughout hit like of course they're just gonna lie to you because You don't believe the people who are telling you the truth That's all and it's a it's dain. It's dangerous to go down this route It is that's not to say that government hasn't lied before it's not to say that scientists haven't screwed up It's not to say that there there could be aliens out there who are like I'm gonna go dunk on the brawn It's not to say that's not true But the minute you're like it's all a lie to cover up the conspiracy that there's a Mars base
Starting point is 01:00:27 Like once you're there, it's you're ready to you could believe anything. Yeah. Yeah, agree That's dangerous. It's a bit in my it's a very clear line You do not cross it because like you like Jesse said you lose all concept of reality at that point Anything is possible to the point where? You are you you've lost it's this like it just says dangerous. I think you can just leave it at that It's very dangerous. Yeah, it's okay to do what we do Well, we just fucking laugh at it and make fun of it But you know me and Alex at at least that the three of us hold a little bit of a stronger
Starting point is 01:00:58 Hope or believe that aliens are real and even Jesse believes like aliens There's very good chance that aliens are out there, but don't cross the line of of Believe believe educated people. Yes, believe educated people Which is why reading the Close Encounters of the fourth kind book which is written by a fucking physicist and as well and like co-authored by another scientists is infinitely more interesting to read because everything's being presented as a science and a fact and there's speculation and there's not like Aliens are doing it. It's it's just looking at the what they have for evidence and that kind of thing Which is what makes things like project blue book way more interesting than these conspiracy theories Because that's like actual government research going in. Yes, that stuff's fascinating where it's like the government said this or
Starting point is 01:01:43 Scientists said this and you're just like oh Okay, like there is no cover up here. It's they researched stuff and it turns out There might be something and that I think it's fun. That's that is cool But for fun shit, I love doing this stuff too because it's hilarious and it's great and who knows you never fucking know maybe one day we'll see we'll see Alex courtside watching the Lakers as breaking news happens. The roof opens up a tall tall white Emperor of the Zinthar Empire jump in and just don't see it's honestly. I'll take the I'll just take the tickets You don't want to see a tall white dunk on the bottom. I don't know if I can handle it, man
Starting point is 01:02:23 I don't know if I can handle it. I I'm gonna be real. I think even in basketball the tall whites would suck. Yeah, we already learned we already learned Larry Bird got bodied Larry Bird is one of the greatest basketball players ever to live don't don't get it twisted but imagine Imagine you're looking at the basketball game and then a dude materializes on the court everybody in this place sees it That's the thing that's exciting to me. That was Space Jam. We've all seen it before they were cartoons Space Jam was a documentary doing Cartoon of Michael Jordan's in it guys. Come on. All right. Use your brains. Let's get out of here Thank you guys for listening. That's the end of episode 21 of Chilluminati podcast. We love you guys
Starting point is 01:03:07 So much can I have it? Can I issue a question to the listeners? Just it's equally your podcast hit me hit me back on Twitter guys. Should I do the Trump theory? Oh The time should I go deep on it? Should I just? Take it more seriously than I should I will say this and I let the viewers obviously the listeners answer for themselves I'm very curious, but I will say this. I did a little tentative research from reading it and Already it begins to fall apart once you put a micro like a like a microscope on a microscope You put under a microscope the book that they reference the one that dissolves the presidency and all this other stuff
Starting point is 01:03:42 It's actually like the reverse of what's happening today Congress actually in that book dissolves the presidency because the president is looking into the corruption of Congress So to save themselves. They just dissolve the presidency Whereas it feels the opposite is what's happening right now, but he swore he was gonna drain the swamp and queue in on QAnon said It's coming. Yeah, WG1 mega something. Maybe I'll do maybe I'll do a QAnon slash Trump time travel one. We'll see I Need to find I need to hit you guys or something. I need to like really blow your minds. I hate it needs to happen I'm gonna get you I'm gonna get you and I want to be like do you believe in you like I do and I'm like idiot
Starting point is 01:04:18 I made it up. It's gonna happen. I'm gonna get you. I'm gonna get you. Have you uh, have you guys heard of missing 411? No, what is that? That's gonna be our next topic that I'm doing missing what this book this book I got it from one of our researchers. She has access to a library This book is out of print. It hasn't been in print since 2012 It's about missing people that go missing in the same woods like every year the government has acknowledged it It is it is an actual thing that is happening and they don't do much to save it and you can actually look I'll show you boys. Oh, is this like in the woods in the back of national parks see? Yeah, yeah, this is cool. Oh, this is cool. Missing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this is cool. I
Starting point is 01:04:53 Yeah, there is there is I think I like I've seen this or maybe I don't know you guys think you can if you have Amazon Prime I'm pretty sure you can watch it for free. Oh shit. You want a preview? Missing 411. This is gonna be this is one. I'm like deep diving into it may be a multi-parter. I'm very pumped for this one I might go in this is gonna be cool Yeah, please do if you guys want to get ready if you viewers want to get ready for that as well in the meanwhile We've got all kinds of different episodes in the works. Thank you guys for watching Pimp our stuff first if you listen to us on iTunes, we're almost at seven hundred five star reviews and I do Yeah, push us past seven hundred views on ice tunes
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