Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 212 - The Return of Davis!

Episode Date: July 17, 2023

Jesse's EU excursions continue, so this week we bring in the handsome and charming DAVIS! Patreon - http://www.patreon.com/chilluminatipod MERCH - http://www.theyetee.com/collections/chilluminati Special thanks to our sponsors this episode - EVERYONE AT HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD PROMO CODE FOR ALL - CHILL GhostBed - http://www.ghostbed.com/chill HelloFresh - http://www.hellofresh.com/chill50 Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Art Commissioned by - http://www.mollyheadycarroll.com Theme - Matt Proft End song - POWER FAILURE - https://soundcloud.com/powerfailure Video - http://www.twitter.com/digitalmuppet

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Well, hello everybody. Welcome back to the Chilimonani podcast episode 212 as always I am one of your host Mike Martin today joined by Alex Fasiane alone But we have a special returning guest one that I actually haven't been part of an episode with you this guest filled my seat when I Yeah, yeah, yeah fan favorite guest never seen Mathis Get Mathis never approved guest. Nah, it's true. Never approved. You just kind of just jumped on. And they said, Davis is taking your spot. Sweet. I said, by job might be in jeopardy. I was a little worried, but not still here.

Uh, yeah, welcome back to the show, Davis. I know the last time you were here, you guys talked about like coconut beach or what? Cognitive growth. Yeah, that one. Which was coconut beach or what? Oh, he me in that grove. Yeah, that one. Which coconut was so fascinating. And that, yeah, that was a wild episode. Who brought that episode for? Who's episode was that? Is it Alex? I brought it for Davis, because I thought he would like it.

Yeah, well, you know Davis well, I'm assuming he did. Well, I did. Well, and it was great because I like, when he approached me, and maybe I said this in that episode, like I was like, I mean, I'll be on it. I just don't, I don't like a big believer in stuff, so I might not like actually be a fun person, but then you're like, I got something.

And it's like, oh shit, I know those exist. I know like people that have gone to them. You like immediately became like, a full on conspiracy theorist about this like one because it's true. They just start getting alt-right videos on YouTube again. Dude, I am the Star Wars pipeline. Dude, I was like, I was like, as a non-fan of the last Jedi,

it was wild how quickly those videos spiraled into like, I don't like where I'm at And then I discovered like I got back on Instagram and then like discovered that people do Lord of the Rings memes as though It was a modern movie and like it was like so joyous and then a couple started coming in there like oh that's not that's all that's off color I don't i don't know what i'm yeah i'm sure legolas wasn't anti trans bro literally i got like an anti trans one i was like uh... they're only the the like joy of this is gone

so how quickly that happens yeah if something sapt away well now you know you're educated that the podcast is more than ghosts and oh yeah no and i was telling you and I've been Alex and Jesse know cuz I bug him I'm now listening through it from the beginning. So I'm like on episode. I'm on episode 22 So I'm way I got some words to go but 60s or 70s audio balancing is handed off to Alex and it's a lot better It's not a I mean the worry like a overly audio file person so that's good

It's fine like So it's fine. Like the, it's just so interesting that I can, if the base is a little bit low and the treble. So yeah, I don't even know. There's a couple episodes where I think Alex is quiet and Jesse's really loud. So when he cackels, it like blows your ears out. That's like one or two episodes. It shouldn't be, shouldn't last all that long.

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Anyway, yeah, this is gonna be a bit of a lighter episode. We haven't done a listener stories episode since fucking November. It's been since 2022. It's like impossible. It's like, it makes no sense to my brain. It genuinely does not. But I wanted to preface the episode before we're getting to that talking a little bit about,

because people have been begging me to talk about it. We got to do a little alien update because the government news that came out yesterday, we don't have to harp on it. We were just talking about it for like 45 minutes before the fucking turn the cameras on. Right. But for those who are following the grush

as Alex is actually like coined it, the grush era of the UFO world as we've now moved in. It's a different vibe. Yeah. You know, one of the biggest problems is, you know, the people in government that are like touting it are, you know, politicians, I'll politicians are hard to believe,

but some of them are a little bit more hard to believe than others. Now we're looking at it. I'm just very, very light way of putting it, by the way. Yeah, absolutely. You know, I try to be as accommodating as I can. But now we have a new bill being put forward. This one by Schumer out in the Senate.

That's modeled after the bill or the amendment or whatever it was about the JFK disclosure stuff that was put forward a long time ago. But this is all about UAP, UFO, and like crash retrieval programs or whatever. But the big thing is in this bill, we for the very time, see the government use and define what the word, what the term NHI means, which is, which stands for non-human intelligence. And this has heard now very commonly amongst non-government courses. Correct. Yeah.

Something that's been, you know, if you listen to any of the public hearings with the AARO in Congress, a lot of the time, or the Pentagon being asked by the press, a lot of the time you hear them ask about extraterrestrials or aliens. Those are the terms they use in every time, if you listen to their answers. It's always very specific about what they say, about no evidence of extraterrestrials or aliens. But non-human intelligence is a much more broadly defined term. And what that means is, according to the bill, which is section 12 of the bill, a non-human

intelligence, this is the term, this means any sentient intelligence, non-human life form, regardless of nature or ultimate origin that may be presumed responsible for unidentified anomalous phenomena, or of which the federal government has become aware. It's like the UFO of entities. Right. Yeah, really. It's like the same exact thing is calling something a UFO, but it's about like a thing.

Like a like a, like a, they say they literally say regardless of origin or ultimate origin or whatever, meaning it doesn't fucking matter, not alien or extraterrestrial. There's something that's not-human and sentient. Because there's also the theories that they're in our ocean, that they made me aren't extraterrestrial, but they fucking bent on the earth way longer than we have, and they've just been under our water, and we can't get to them. Because we, well, you saw what happened when we cut the budget and send somebody down to the Titanic.

It doesn't really go all that well. It takes a lot of money to send somebody down to the Titanic. Yeah. Doesn't really go all that well. It takes a lot of money to build the sub to, yeah. We do not have that biome conquered. There is no, we are not, we are not adroit in the water. We are. Yeah. At the depth that the Titan was at, if they had been alive,

there was only like one or two vehicles in the world that could get down there and make an attempt to get them. Like it is beyond our capabilities to go very deep. I think James Cameron spent 10 years funding and like creating the sub that eventually allowed him to go down to the Titanic. He was talking some, he was talking some trash on that. That was crazy.

I didn't even say, I can't, I don't, yeah. Yeah, I do remember, remember we were talking about the sharks like a year ago or so They like said like oh we found out finally like that all the sharks in the ocean like the big sharks when they breed We didn't know what the fuck was going on with those sharks and we found out they all like meet in like a fucking deep water like Elden ring Like Cthulhu cave underneath the ocean where they all just have like a fuck party and then they like come back I'd say they figured it out

Yeah, dude. I it's one of those like facts that I'd never like Looked into because I kind of like the mystery, but when somebody's like Like I think it's great white sir. Just sharks are like they just go somewhere and we don't know Where they are is like makes sharks even fucking scarier than they already are where you're like, what do you mean they just go somewhere we don't know? What do you mean? What does that mean? Right. And it's crazy. Go just out and fucking. You just go deep enough and we can't get to you.

So they have like a shark sion from like Matrix. It's just like, that's like exactly what's going on down there. That's like Lauren's fishburn is like, yeah! And they're like, who, who, how do we find out? What happened? Who, which which of the sharks fucking I mean I don't have Who ran them out? What shark talked No, I don't have the article in front of me But it was like something like that. So think about how sharp a shark think about how smart a shark is And then you know we eat sharks literally

for breakfast sometimes. Like, sharks are, we have, we are much more advanced than them. So imagine if there was a species that was as advanced as us or more advanced than us that lives down there. Think about how a droid they would be. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's really wild to think about, honestly.

And it wouldn't, it would make sense. Like, even if they're not necessarily from the planet, but if they just need to hide from us, the water is where you would go. The monkeys don't go in the water. We can't get down there. It's too cold. Going back to what you were talking about

with regard to this new disclosure thing, it's exciting because it's coming from Chuck Schumer. Right? That's what's exciting about it, especially because this is like main stream, it was reported on the video. NBC picked up, you're times picked it up. But because he's not here,

I'm just gonna swing in and do this for him, and I'm sorry, man. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you. We wouldn't be a Chuluminati episode if somebody came and shat on my dreams. Yeah, so what Jesse said in the chat when we were talking about this was basically that,

like, Schumer is basically doing this to like, call their bluff and make some people who are kind of crazy. Like the other people that have been talking about this a lot are like, Marco Rubio, who is like a huge chav, a piece of rotten salami just sitting there. Just a shitty, shitty, not listen to this guy guy who should probably not have his job. I think you know, if you're not gonna be- I think if you're gonna be- I fuck Carl Sinconson talked about UFOs too and I made me like want to get crazy. It's just, it's just a, it's just one of those things that like, I feel like cynically

that a lot of these sort of like more pundit based news networks that are sort of right leaning. I think a lot of the time to appeal to a broad base of people that want to like get into like lore, they align a lot of the time shamelessly with conspiracy theories. Sure, it's an easy and right. Yeah, and it's just like what Davis was just talking about, about like not liking how Luke Skywalker's character develops in the last Jedi can lead you to like,

I don't like Asian women, or like whatever like fucking weird ass place that you end up that's like awful, right? And so, you know, I don't know, like Chuck Schumer kind of, if you look at it from just perspective. Let's not pretend Chuck Schumer's like the best politician ever in this industry. He's just legit, not at all.

He's just, his credentials are legit, right? His track record is like, he is a real politician who seems to be knowledgeable about his job and like kind of could have a job like this, right? Which is enough for me, right? And I'm just saying cynically from Jesse's perspective that him doing this could just be kind of being like, all right, let's hear it.

Sure. And that's always possible. And it would be, to me, it's a weird move because up until now, it hasn't really been being covered by any mainstream things. I know you're saying it's more, try to gather the people on the weirder sides of the news. It's becoming very convincing for us

is why it's worrisome. Literally, thank you. Yeah, that's a great way to put it. It's becoming more believable to us, but that makes us put the brakes on because we know how easy it road. It leads, I mean, go back a couple months and go listen to the Majestic 12 episode.

That's all about the dangerous road, like believing in these things can quickly lead you if you're not doing your due diligence. If Schumer is looking at this and he doesn't have inside knowledge on this and he doesn't believe it, it's like watching smarter, smarter people getting, like, to win with you and on.

Whether Jesse's right or, you know, I'm right and this is like the real deal, it doesn't matter because this is still exactly what we need, regardless. If this is an op and this is us getting radicalized to QAnon, like through some weird back-to-our-way, some sort of like crazy conspiracy. I swear to God, if in a few episodes,

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Like 10 to 10 to anybody thinks I'm rational, all right? We all know I'm not. I think you are. I mean, like you do your research, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know, I know. Like, that's the scary thing about this. I think more than anything is that I'm starting to feel like something's actually happening. Yeah, that's why it's gotta come out.

It's not ever fading away. Like people think it's gonna fade away instead of more things keep happening instead. We're just talking about the guys that set out to disprove quantum physics. And then they won the Nobel Prize because they ended up proving quantum physics. Yeah, that's what I want for this now.

I don't care. I've been saying this now in every episode that we yell at each other about this. It's like's what I want for this now. I don't care. I've been saying this now in every episode that we yell at each other about this, is like, I need the alien titty. I need like, I need somebody to be like, this is real or here is a picture of it. Like, I need like that to come out at a White House briefing. I want it to be an official channel confirming something.

People already, dude it in the deeper circles that I tread through every once in a while. People already saying that the government acknowledging it is the start to project blue beam. If you don't know what project blue beam is, it's a conspiracy theory. The idea is that the government's fake and alien UFO invasion to create a new world order with government thing.

You can literally track that theory back to its origins and know exactly how much of a fake it is and how much of a bullshit thing it is. But the more rodent in 1980s for DC Comics. Yeah, literally. But yeah, I mean, that's the whole problem with this right now is like, please try to disprove quantum physics of alien conspiracy theories.

Please, because at this point, it's dangerous. I've been told to read Twitter every time I share something, like the people that I keep sharing are not always like, trustworthy. And now I share this and it's like, all those people are just very quiet. And they're like, good, I can watch. I'm curious who's gonna vote in which direction

when this comes up. I'm very curious who's gonna vote for it and who's gonna vote against it. Yeah, and it's just, it's such an unknown. Like, I know, it's crazy. And it's metaphysical, like, it's a comedophysical threat. It's crazy. And if we can go to the science side thing,

the other thing I wanted to cover is Avilobe update. So, Avilobe is a Harvard PhD physicist that went out into the crash site of what was believed to be the first interstellar meteor that came into our solar system. It crashed in the Indian Ocean in 2014. And over the past few years since 2019, he's been gathering people to fund and get an expedition out there so that he can kind of scoop the floor and try to find bits of this thing.

So he either can prove that it is an interstellar meteor because there is even scientists who didn't believe that. Or what he potentially believes that it might be a probe, something that was fired off millions of years ago from a civilization far away that just eventually kind of crash landed on our planet. But literally, it's a voyager. Yeah, like essentially. So he went out there expecting to scoop hope.

He was hoping for somewhere between five to eight spherials, which were like point three milligram sized things that you could barely see with the naked eye, but on the electric, on under electronic microscope, you can really see these things. Davis, you wanna say something? How big is this thing? The meteor? The meteor?

The meteor, yeah. You can, I don't remember how big they believed it to be, but the department of defense was able to, was the one to track down where it crashed, and I don't know how big it was supposed to be, but I don't think it was like, it was like, it was, it was like, are we talking like, car size, bigger, smaller, no. I would imagine smaller than car-size. Because it would have caused like a title wave. Yeah, it would have been awful.

Yeah, I think it's not that big, but big enough to track on instruments. Probably, yeah. I don't like follow this that much. Do we track meteors and like collect them when they land and like study them? Sometimes, or, sometimes if they're, but we track them all the time in our solar system

and most of the time we probably ignore them because we now know what they're made out of. I've heard of dysphoria. What? What? What? What? What?

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What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? What? system to be able to hit that trajectory at that speed from the distance. He's also the Umul-A-Mula guy, right? Yeah, he's the Umul-A-Mula guy who wrote a paper and successfully disproved the the the initial theory as to why it left the planet, which was wrong and was accepted by you know scientific journals or

whatever. Is it so hit the ocean? Is it like on the ocean floor? Yeah, so how are you gonna find that? So, they know where it crashed. Saddle like imagery and stuff. They can see where it crashed through the department of defense working with him. They were able to narrow it down to like a very particular area. And he set up a grid and they went out there

with a boat, a crew, and all these things and started going through the grid one at a time with a dragnet and a dragnet with a camera on it and other equipment and looking for it. And when he finally, I think it was like within the first week, he came across his first spherial, which narrowed it down the area. And he was actually able to, over the course of three weeks,

find it, and instead of getting five to eight, they got over 50 of these things. He's, are spherials just like parts, like spherials? Yeah, so the way when the meteor hits the water at the heat in the angle it hit, basically as it explodes these things are running through the water and rotating rapidly and the rapid cooling of the water with how hot it is, turns them into like perfect steers. Think about like liquid metal splashing. Yeah, so he went down there with the drag net, was able to pull stuff up and was able to,

they pulled up a little wire at one point, but they were able to determine it was probably man-made, just because of what it was made out of. A lot of volcanic ash was down there. How deep is this ocean? I have to look how deep they went. It was the Indian ocean. I'd have to look. I don't know exactly. That's cool. I like to see the interesting matters. i don't know the matters but does it does it like fuck up the life and stuff doing these magnets uh... i don't think so they just kind of pulling it across the sand on the ground

it's not like this huge thing that's scooping everything that's fucking up a coral no it's laying no no no it's laying directly down on the sand being pulled in has like a magnetic stuff so it can pull things out of the sand. Is it like, does it have some, what do they need money? Like can't they, do they not have the cash? So they need the money to go out there.

So now they're back, they came back a couple of weeks ago. And a few days ago the update was they kept some for themselves to study. And then they sent them off to three separate universities to be studied by other scientists. Two in the America and one in Germany, it's like Harvard, Yale, and then something else. I can forget the Germany one is.

And they're going to start looking at it and kind of figuring out what these things are made of. It's the one they haven't done that yet. So lobe has. Lobe has. And, but he's, you know, other people need to verify. It can't just be one guy. He wants like multiple labs. But what's fascinating fascinating is what Alex just said after looking at it

It's like 80 something percent iron. It's got titanium in there And it's got other bits that he say are you typically used in semi conductor production But you know take that with the grain of salt the big thing is is there's no nickel found in it and on earth That's unheard of you cannot find iron without nickel also mixed in due to the way heat and explosions and how its formed happens. And the only, when we create iron stuff here on earth, we have to purify the nickel out of it

in order to use it because nickel weakens iron. And so, in that holds true to us, much as we've been able to study outside of the earth and the planet, like just where there's iron, there is nickel. Except on these spherules, all of the ones he studied so far, zero percent nickel and any of them. It implies manufacture. Yeah, that's as a, is an implication is that it was manufactured somewhere. It was, the nickel would have been purged out of it.

He was also able to date the thing to 4.5 billion years old that Asteroid was or the meteor was. So if it was a probe, it's a probe from billions of years ago across the universe that just hit our planet one day. If that's true. if that's the case. Regardless, it's not that it's just a four- Still, $1 billion like pool cue ball that's been flying across,

that's fucking cool. It's fucking cool shit. And because he's able to find it, he's trying to get back out there in 2024 because he wants to go to the end and see if he can find literally whatever is left of the thing at the end of the trail they found and find it. Are they thinking that there would be one large prime piece? Yeah, he thinks there's one big hunk.

The hunk, yeah. Yeah, and we're talking like, I would guess football sized or smaller if anything's left, but that's what he wants to go find. Now that he knows, and he's been able to verify the pack that it took, he can now try and find the end of it and hopefully find the mother load of whatever it is. Even if it's just an interstellar meteor because that's the first time when we've had interstellar meteor that we know of.

It's just, it's just, whatever's going on, it's very interesting. Whatever that is. Yeah. I know people are like, it's just, it's just to go. Whatever's going on, it's very interesting. Whatever that is. Yeah. I know people are like, it's just, it's the same as always, but it's not. The past three to five years have seen so much more progress than the past 20 something years that I've been heavily into.

And a lot of legitimacy. All of it. Like a lot more legitimacy this time. In the people who are questionably legitimate, becoming more legitimate the more we learn, like Pablo's are. Pretty weird. It's wild. Pretty weird.

It is, and that's your alien talk for the day. We have some stories. Yeah, we have some stories to read, and some update on one that we read last time in November that I'm excited to get to. That was in November? No. Dude, I'm telling you. Yes, the last one. No. Listener stories we did was in November.

We had to have done that part of the listener story more recently. That might have been a mini-sode. Yeah. Because damn, no way, that was before Christmas. Yeah, I, I, I, that, it's crazy. I don't talk to me. I know time flies. When it was Crendor.

We did Unit 7, their Crendor. Maybe it was when Crendor- Oh, when he was here a few weeks ago. Yeah, maybe. I don't remember. Anyway, I don't know. But we're going to do some stories. And you know, this light little taste of a story at the very top.

We'll give that one to Davis. Davis, this one's all for you to read. How's your reading? Are you like above a first grade level? It is, but now that I'm- We'll see. Actually, we're all about to find out. It's not about to find out.

We're all about to find out. If you don't have it open, I can give it to Alex. No, I got it's open. You want me to just go for it? Yeah, go for it. This is a title and all. Grim Reaper took my cousin by Trippie Game or 420. Very, very trustworthy name, honestly.

It's just already, it's sort of is like a caveat in a name, just like, you know that tweet? I do drugs. So whatever, that means to you. You know that tweet that's like Moons Live, and then it's like load shotgun. Oh, yeah No, I'm haunted. Yeah, Moose haunted what? Moose haunted. That's like green Reaper took my cousin has that energy Yeah, Green Reaper took what all right My cousins and I got bored one night around Valentine's Day 2009 and decided to ghost hunt

We were ages sixteen sixteen and twelve. I don't know what you're hunting with but uh first we were just no hang on Davis if you were going ghost hunting what would you take? Oh my god I wouldn't because I don't but it's like that. Does Buster? I don't like I guess if you believe silver like isn't silver uh not for ghost. How about a K-2 me? I just I think of like a voc Silver is like a as a like supernatural Metal honestly if you are like in a world yet you need one of those

If you're in a world where supernatural exists having silver on you is like almost always good You're right. It a lot of supernatural hate silver. That's true But if you were to with your everyday stuff grab you like your most important tool you would you Davis Dean my dog So that I can actually like do it, but yeah, I guess I gotta go pro now, so I probably go pro it, but that thing is I Don't have like how do you fight? I? Don't believe in them, but if you did believe them, what do we have that could fucking do anything to a ghost? I don't think most ghost hunters go into it

believing they're gonna like... I guess, because it's hunting, I assume hunting, is it just ghost sighting? No, you're trying to go ghost. Yeah, but not dealers, maybe a little fold out chairs. See, now you're trying to go like a ghost time. Now you're starting to think like a ghost time. I'm just like like what is bird watching but but for fucking what it is what it is what bird watching but stupid you are correct. Bear box yeah oh yeah the spear box all right

go ahead Davis continue ages 16 16 12 at first we were just playing around and didn't think we'd actually get a response but to our surprise we did multiple responses to multiple questions I asked the spirit wanted to sit in the chair. I was in and the response was a deep scary grouse saying, no, freak us out or freaked us. Oh, the fuck out. But we kept going. Found out there was a spirit that loved Robert. Don't know who that is.

Anyways, my cousin shines a flashlight near a wall. Probably to set it. I don't know. My cousin shines a flashlight light near a wall probably said it uh... my cousin shines a flash light near a wall and doorway swearing he's seen something move past the doorframe uh... and as he did the tallest darkest perfect fucking shadow of the grim reaper appeared on the wall you think it was one of those darkest perfect fucking shadow

i've never seen a shadow that I like thought about that but yeah When I say perfect, I mean there were no blurred edge lines like a shadow would normally have those high anti-aliasing and you can make out the hood Scythe and the crow on its shoulder standing with its hand out like it wanted us. I know that the grim reaper had a pet crow Would I think I didn't know that is that like from disc world? Are you sure you saw the grim reaper? Crows are like part of that whole death thing, but I just a cursory Google image search of grim reaper. I don't oh Okay, there's one in the background of one picture. Okay, but it doesn't oh no the so the black hologram grim reaper Could have could have with hologram crow you think trippy gamer 420 was tripping a little bit or maybe I am seeing Oh shit this one is a like a crow that it's like flapping its wings and it's turning into smoke. Oh shit It's it's not based on just Google search

crows are sometimes imagery that is associated with it all right we're in the house ten seconds of research we told my aunt about it but she didn't believe us and thought we were lying so we brushed it off they moved from the house to one across town later at that year that same year well that September my cousin

uh... turn thirteen was hit and killed by a car across town later that year, that same year, well that September and my cousin, turn 13, was hit and killed by a car not even an eighth of a mile from his house. Oh. So is that, so we're assuming here that the grim reaper was like the moth man, and that he showed up to tell you of an abat event to come, but we stopped there to take the kid's soul quite yet.

Marked the soul My condolences for your cousin. Yeah, my my condolences as well and next time you see a perfect shadow without any feathered edges I love the photo. That's I am What is that even mean? What does what even mean? I just have never I've never thought about shadows I like sometimes shadows look spooky, but I've never thought about shadows. I like, sometimes shadows look spooky, but I've never thought of like, the idea of a perfect shadow. Well, usually, right, with shadows,

like there's a lot of angles and distance elements and atmospheric elements in between you and the light. But if you're in the dark, if you're in the full dark, and you have like a light source, and you're putting it like, you know, if you hold your hand between the table and the flashlight or whatever, you can get some pretty crisp lines on your shadows.

But- So then he's like one, like a single powerful light source. Yeah, but like what I believe they're saying here, what Trippi gamer 420 is trying to say here, I think, is that this was like almost like uncannily different than how a normal shadow stuck out to them. Yeah, okay. Okay. That's what I believe. Yeah. Well, this one's all yours. Okay, I don't necessarily agree with the title.

I am with you to be honest. Okay. This is Drugs Are Bad by Corvidae 5 Creation 5. Or I'm gonna Corvidae's creations maybe? Oh, maybe. Yeah, speaking of crows. Anyway, here's a story you can read on the podcast if you like, contains psychic phenomena.

When I was a kid, like 11 or 12, I got strep throat as you do. Went to the doctor, got a prescription cough suppressant and some antibiotics, took my meds and had a nice bowl of tomato soup for lunch. If this was me personally, I would also be watching the price is right at this time. Oh, yes.

Yeah. 20 minutes later, I get violently dizzy and kind of throw up a little in my throat. I staggered halfway through the bathroom, then the nausea subsided, and I was so sleepy all of a sudden that I turned around and keeled over into bed. Mom checked in on me and was like, you okay? And I told her what happened, and she was like, you okay? And I told her what happened and she was like, well, try to sleep it off. You'll be fine, Patrick. Get on the back and find.

Next thing I know, I'm standing behind her as she sat at the family computer, typing an email to grandpa, and I read it over her shoulder. She was describing how I was sick and the meds hit me like a truck. I felt unreasonably guilty for being out of bed and reading stuff That's none of my business. So I kind of wandered off through the wall Later I woke up in bed and told mom about what happened. She said I was never there She definitely would have noticed me shambling around the house Turns out the meds interacted with a chemical found in all deadly nightshade plants

To me those are still a member of that family and people in certain medications should be careful about that. And I had a fucking out of body experience. Oh, like, wait, what? I didn't want tomatoes in night. You should not eat tomatoes when I had cough suppressants. Mathis is like, oh, whoa, wait. Bro, I just thought you never, you never want to do that. Definitely not going to go by. I was want to do that You're like what's the

go by? Yeah, yeah, I can I get what's that dude that's so crazy what was that? anyway I coded moms and tired. I'm just googling in the background furious typing. I coded moms and tired emails are her word for word and she was like, okay, that's creepy but didn't make a big deal about it. Never had tomato soup again, have yet to repeat the experience

with any other drugs, and I've had weed and major surgery since then. That's a good sentence. Yeah, right, damn. I haven't had any other drugs, and I've had weed and major surgery since then. Very weird. I like that one.

So was the letter actually happened to the email? Yeah, the email was real. They're saying the email actually happened, they actually saw it, and the mom was like, that's weird, but then kind of left it. And I'm just like, why is that people's reactions when weird things happen? Just be like, oh, weird.

And not be like, wait, what? Then try to find out more about it. There's a term that i learned recently that i like uh... thought terminating phrases like synchads hands are like if these these these things that don't have just cognitive dissonance dissonance is like uh... the mental frustration or like anxiety that you get from holding to opposing

viewpoints and rather than seeing this stimuli that would radically alter the way that you perceive the work, like your entire world view. It's a new term for you. It would cause ontological shock. Yeah, it would just, it's just simpler to like fucking shut that down and move on.

So it's probably because like, if you have to like think too hard, you're going to explode in your head. And so's probably because like if you have to like think too hard you're going to explode in your head. And so you're just like well he's sick and he's on drugs even though that's an explain how he knew exactly the thing. It's funny because like we talk about this a lot on the show is it's a very similar thought process with cult members and serial killers. The idea of having to look and recognize what you what you believe what you've done not correct, and then having to like essentially dismantle yourself in that way.

You'd have to rebuild with this new version of reality that you're not familiar with. And it's interesting that it reminds me, remember the story I told of my friend when he was 16 years old, saw a UFO in the car with his dad and his sister, if not, quick story, on his way home from high school or from somewhere with his dad and his sister. If not, quick story. On his way home from high school or from somewhere with his dad and his sister in the car, they were driving. They see something moving very erratically in the sky like in directions that didn't make any sense and only two or three seconds later zipped off.

And then the dad and the car said that everybody just see that and all the in he and his sister said, yeah, they saw that and they were like weird, but then kind of like, put it aside. Never again brought it up. And then it reminds me that same friend who I game with multiple times a week had another goddamn UFO sighting and I'm mad about it.

So he was in, so now we're fast forward. He's not 16. He's like 37. He has, he has three kids. His wife is gone with two of the kids and he's in the backyard with his youngest pushing him on a swing And they live near an airport and the kid loves airplanes So he's always looking up in the sky and pointing at airplanes as they're always flying by and then at one point

Uh, he said he noticed to some was just like looking up in the sky I wasn't saying anything but was just looking up and fascinated with something and so he turned around and was trying to see What he saw and he sees this this little in the sky as daylight, not at night. And it's moving in like a straight line, but at a really weird speed. So my thought is, oh, he's seeing a satellite because they usually move in a straight line at a really weird speed.

And he goes, after I watched it for a couple seconds, it took off at a 90 degree angle at a speed I could not explain. And I was just like, I hate you. Because it's an, and he's like, I don't know what to make of it, but it was this, I just, I had another one. And I'm like, what the fuck? And it's, but he's also left with like, what do I do about it? He's like, that's a bad, really good one. I'm looking at the fucking sky, bro. Dude, I look at it every fucking day.

I didn't know you could even see satellites with the naked eye. Yeah. So they look like stars and they just move in a really, that's usually a straight line and kind of a slow steady motion. The same thing with the ISS, you can actually look up where the ISS is and you can see it in the sky when it comes by. Crazy, okay.

Yeah, so you know, this is weird like, yeah, I think Alex is right where you just can't explain it. So you just kind of like, you just gotta move on, or Davis. Like you can't change your worldview. What are you gonna do about it? You just kind of protect yourself by just deciding like, well, that's where the podcast.

That's where the invisible GTA, like barrier to the outside of town is where I can't walk anymore. You know what I mean? You're just like, that's the end of the map. Like I care. Yeah, it's done. I can't go any further. Oh well, my brain won't allow me. If I go farther, I will go insane. Sorry. Like,

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Nightmare Mayors by Kelsey A. Faustis. Hello! That's I love that Faustis last time. Yeah, that's cool. Just wanted to say hi, long time listener, first time poster. Anyways, I was with an ex at the time, and I was around 23 to 24 years old, I'm now 26, when I had these terrifying nightmares. So I just wanted to post them,

and these dreams are in order for when I had them, and they happen three nights in a row. So just so you know, Davis,x a jesse rather is our dream interpretation uh... individual during these list in her stories that's your job now uh... you're gonna interpret this you have some sort of training in this or just no no no no the only need is to be online entertainer

i have seen joseph in the amazing technical dream coat several times so pretty good. That's actually pretty good That's more that's more credibility than I am inception. I'm not seeing that right dream skate. I see inception I could do it. Yeah, dream scape. Yeah, what's dream skate? Oh Wait till you come to Los Angeles my friend. That's a great popcorn Dude that would be a great movie for you because it deals with like, it's like inception, but in the, what early 80s and not as good, but like dream warriors and government conspiracies. It's literally, huh? Exactly. It's like what I imagine something like MK Ultra is about.

I don't you worry. You're gonna get that four-parter. Oh, okay, you guys finally do that because you talk about it. But we deep dive into that and make everybody real depressed. That's a rough one. Yeah. Anyways, it would fit that, your guys' popcorn thing.

Yeah. Yeah, MK Ultra is a nightmare in and of itself. But this is like a fun movie to watch, when I'm out there, when we can rock and popcorn it, when I'm out there for that movie. Yeah, damn it. Yeah, cool.

Anyway, she goes, continue to go. I usually don't dream at all, so I remember these dreams, but I remember these dreams to this day. The first one is called the Cow Dream. So the dream starts out with me watching over this guy, kind of like a fly in the corner type of thing that dude didn't know I was watching,

but he was on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride at Disneyland. Oh, you guys know that, right? I know it well. Is it, is it, is Jack Sparrow still in that one? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. They put him in it, right? They put like an is is Jack Sparrow still in that one? Oh, you see they put him in it right they put like an Extremely realistic Jack Sparrow robot in amongst the like robots And so he would be weird uncanny sometime like he moves like way too smooth. It's weird. Oh, no

Oh, I kind of want to see that now. I don't think I went on that ride when I was down there last time It's it's a classic ride you gotta go. It's a great post lunch. Get out of the heat, chill ride. Yeah, that's real. Yeah, that's a good tip. As he was going down the river, the boat stopped in the middle of the ride and the dude got out and started walking towards

these maze of hallways. In the hall, wait, now we talked about Disney stuff all the time. Isn't like the back area of like Disney like a giant tunnel and system and like always and stuff. So there are a few tunnels at Disneyland. The big tunnel system is underneath Disney World, which is actually built on the second story of a building where the first floor is all tunnels.

So that's crazy. But there are yes, some tunnels underpire to the Caribbean. I will say this, I was listening to some rumors back in the day that there was at one point going to be a nighttime scary version of Pirates the Caribbean, where one point the ride goes down a different direction behind the town and it's like scary. That's the best thing I've ever heard anything like this, but I don't even know if that's true. So, well, it should be, and they should do that, and they're, because it sounds like a really cool idea. In the hallways, you could hear people moaning, and for some reason, cows mooing. All right, maybe this is not in the tunnel. Is it the Diablo deal?

The secret cow level, yes, you found it, dude. It was through the carriage of the carer being ride. I could tell that there is livestock on that ride. That's true. There's pigs, there's mules, there's like, really? Yeah, that's not living, not living livestock But like okay, but no there would make sense to hear these sounds got it

I could tell that the guy was uneasy about the whole thing But keep kept walking all the sudden the guy stops because he saw a cow at the end of the hallway The dude freaked out and ran into the nearest room which was a bedroom He shut the door behind him, but as he looked around him, the cow was in there. He quickly panicked and tried to run again, but the cow got him and pinned him on the bed. I'm, how do you think the cow did that? Like with its hooves, with its horns?

I don't know, what do you mean? There's no horns on a cow. Oh, pinned it, like it could just have sat on them. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's all it needs to do. They're heavy as hell. They're real big. Oh my god, the cow started to sexually molest the guy

and soon the cow transformed from a regular cow to a weird anime cow. I think we're just realizing you might be a furry. Is this just like a bit? I don't think it is a bit, because then they go legit. This was my dream in parentheses. I mean, you're following that.

The now anime cow was still the less than the guy, when all of a sudden more men and cows went into the room and Orgie started. As I was watching this all unfold in front of me, I remember panicking myself because I wanted to so badly run away from everything, but then the dream restarted itself. The guy was back on the boat and I was still watching him. I started screaming at the top of my lungs for anybody to listen because I knew what was about to happen

and I didn't want to see the cow wargy again. I finally woke up and I didn't go back to sleep that night. To this day, I still hate the sight of cows, especially the Pokemon Miltinge. I mean, I just think your subconscious was done holding out of the secret that you were a furry. And is this trying to make you come to the realization that you are a cow furry?

Is that what you call, yeah, just a furry cow. That's your first sonar, is a cow. Yeah, I guess like, because it's like why shows like Star Trek are great where they take things and they like separate, they make them different names for things that are real so that you can see it from a different viewpoint. Maybe this dream, because it's not you, this guy, your brain's like, let's make you see somebody else go through this because it's actually you, but if it makes it you, you're

not going to like, not, you're not, you're gonna like, nice. You're not gonna like get it. So like, yeah, maybe like, the guy is her and it's something there. I'm gonna go with that and I'm gonna assume this person is now. I'm gonna say this. Let me, let me, let me take a crack at this really quick. Okay, okay, you've got an idea. An anthropomorphized cow is just automatically quite a Freudian image right there's something weird about it like the fact that the cow squirts milk out of

its like crotch area there's something you think that was part of it you think there's a lot of milk squirt and happening I'm just probably I mean an account orgy right and I'm just saying like there's something like like like pervertedly sexual about that right right? Like, in a way, like, visually, there's something about the other squirting milk that's like similar to, like, human sexuality, right? The cow is like, kind of, in some ways, like a giant walking titty, right?

And I think, can you keep, just keep, can you just keep describing it? I just think, I think that what this dream could be is fear of your own abilities to create. Like, I think the fear here is that this is capable of occurring within your own imagination. I think that's what's, I think that's what's so upsetting about it to you is that you made this.

Like you, these dreams on your brain, it's you. I think that's made this. Like, you... I think, right? These dreams are your brain. It's you. I think that's what this is. I think you, I think to interpret this, what was on your mind is that you are frightened of your own thoughts.

Your own things that are occurring to you are your sort of background occurring thoughts are horrifying you. That's my feeling. I like that. Isn't it wild that you, you know, your dreams can thoughts are horrifying you, that's my feeling. I like that. Isn't it wild that you, you know, your dreams can scare and surprise you, but it's you making up the dream anyway,

so shouldn't you know what's coming? Yeah, exactly. Interesting. I think that thought. Interesting. Smoke. Dream too. The devil.

I was sleeping on my boyfriend's now ex house when I had this dream. Later. Starts out, sorry. I said later dude. The dream starts out at my boyfriend's now ex-house when I had this dream. The start's out. Sorry. I said later, dude. The dream starts out at my grandma's house. I was in the bathroom feeling good about myself. I was getting ready when my cousin came in and said,

well, you look happy. I responded back with, I am. I think it's because I prayed for the first time ever last night. I think that really helped. Now, the notes, I'm not a religious person, so this was weird for me. Before my cousin could respond, I felt this feeling of verboding come over me.

The bathroom door slammed shut and I felt these hands on me, and next thing I knew, there was a cow pinning me against the bedroom floor, and I didn't know what to do. No, I was at my boyfriend's now ex's house on the bed next to him. I was awake, but couldn't move, and my ex was next to me sleeping.

I looked over to the side of the bed and saw this dark figure peering over the bed. Now was it, I'm curious, was it a perfect shadow with a siphon of crow on your shoulder? He telegraphically, I think you meant telepathically. But I love the idea of this thing telegraphically. Like, it would be sweet. Or what? Telegraph, you you're right telegraphically with like Morse code Yeah, it was maybe designed He telegraphically told me so you want to start praying now I'll show you what that can do to a person He then grinned from ear to ear and opened his mouth wide all I saw with blackness in his mouth

I still couldn't move and I was terrified. I tried screaming but nothing came out. I looked down and I saw this demon trying to crawl up my legs and I knew that I was about to be eaten. I was screaming, crying, and even calling out for my mom. But then I was suddenly able to move my foot and I woke up in real life. I was at my ex's house and how I woke up was in the exact position that I was in my dream. I didn't know what that dream was in the exact position that I was in my dream. I didn't know what that dream was about, but I knew that dark figure was the devil himself. I again didn't fall asleep again that night.

Okay. Okay, I like this one. I can't wait. Yeah, you got time. Yeah, I do. Ready? You ready for this? Ready for that high-level shit right now?

Hit it. Okay. I'm ready, man. Let's go back to what I was talking about just for a minute about your own mind, your own thoughts sort of like being something that maybe you're not ready to completely grasp, you know, you're ready to be not grasp but like reach out and own, let's say. And in this case, let's talk about religion. I don't know what your relationship is with religion.

I'm not gonna presume, but I'm gonna assume, just from the text, that the sentence where you say, I'm not a religious person, so this was weird for me, is you sort of underlining the fact that you're religious, to us. And I'm gonna take that to say that you raised religious maybe. Yeah, like maybe you are anti-religion now in a way, like how sometimes I feel like maybe I don't want

to be Catholic right now because of how weird it was. Yeah, and that's an interesting idea, because at 37, I still, being raised Catholic, Catholic is all about guilt, baby. That's the whole religion. Yeah, exactly. And I still a lot of Catholic guilt that fucking comes up for random shit.

And I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonna say, this is what you're doing, but this is just me interpreting this paragraph of text. So I'm gonna go with that, and I'm gonna say, what this dream is about is you saying, you in your brain thinking to yourself, you know what, what if religion is scary

because I might get something out of it? Like maybe, what if religion is scary because I might get something out of it? Like maybe what if what if what if a religion is like Secretly appealing to me. That's part one of the feeling right like I prayed for the first time and I really helped and then number one I want to say that the second half of this dream is is sleep paralysis I want to say that you were awake during the second half of this, but that the brain often hallucinates outside of unconsciousness sometimes in your process of waking up if you do it wrong,

which can happen sometimes. Yeah, or night terrors. She woke up sitting up or something. Night terrors, you can also hallucinate, but also move around. The fact that they said that they were in the same position when they woke up makes me feel like this was actually happening in the room while you were conscious.

Yeah, but to continue the thought, then though, if you're hesitant and you're like, maybe I am into religion, right? Then you're like, oh, but then the devil is real. You know what I mean? Yeah. Maybe the reason I'm not religious is because even though I think it would help me, it would mean that the devil is real.

I did tempted. But maybe it just means that the devil is real also. Maybe the reason I don't wanna subscribe to religion is because I'm afraid that it would make the devil real as well. How about that? I like it. I definitely think there's a guilt theme

that can be Extracted from these the two of them I don't I don't think that my interpretation of this one is not as like it's specifically religion based but there is like How do I describe this like you ever like find out the truth about, and so you're like, all right, I can't do it, but there is some, you learn a truth about something and you don't want to engage in whatever that is, but that thing offers you comfort and you miss, I guess nostalgia is based in this.

You long for the time when you could do that guilt-free, or you could hide in it, but you know that if you try it again, it's bad. A lot of times after a relationship, if you're not finding love, you have that X or that hook up friend, and so maybe you call them up, and then it just starts the shit again and it's

Yeah, just reopens pin it or yeah, it could be like anything where it's like you just you sort of like long for the comfort of Ignorance maybe for you but you know you can't because you know now and so you can't have it so ignorance is bliss and once you get rid of that ignorance You can't ever close your eyes to it again. I'm full yet Yeah get rid of that ignorance you can't ever close your eyes to it again. I'm full. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I don't know, maybe there's something there. Well let's see if this final dream of hers wraps up this trilogy and makes a full story.

The last one is called demonic doll. I was sleeping in my access house once again when I had this dream. I woke up in my dream and I knew that instantly something was wrong. I was already panicking and couldn't move. I looked over and saw that my hand was hanging off the bed And there was this doll sitting in front of my hand. It was a normal looking doll Let life life-sized like Annabelle doll from the movie, but I knew that it wasn't that itself wasn't normal My figure my figure I think she oh my finger had twitched and I accidentally touched the doll

I tried to move my hand away, but I couldn't I looked back at the doll and it grabbed my arm and started to pull me. I was sliding off the bed and I could do nothing about it. I started screaming, crying, calling for my mom, anything to try and get away from the doll. But I could do nothing and nothing was coming out of me. All of a sudden, I gained control of my body and quickly pulled away from the doll. I woke up in the real world and again was in the same position I was in real life that I was in my dream. After that, I started to jokingly say that it was my

excess fault for my dreams after doing some googling. I realized that I had these things called walking awake nightmares. Yeah, like night terrors where you wake up in your dream and have a form of sleep paralysis. Damn, Alex, you nailed that last one. Yeah. It's a form of sleep paralysis. You can get these from loud noises. Well, my ex at the time was slightly overweight and snored like a freight train. Like you could hear him from the other side of the house with all the doors closed. He was that loud.

Ooh, that's rough. So it was his fault the entire time. I soon broke up with him, not because of the dreams, but for him saying that my father didn't love me and the dream stopped ever since. Well, that sounds like a different nightmare that we could talk about in the chat. Just that trickle, that one little, that one little.

Little, yeah, that little piece of plot right at the end. Those are my dreams and I hope you guys enjoyed. Love y'all. Yeah, that was great. You kind of gave us the solution Alex came up with. So, you know, feel vindicated. Yeah, the doll, I feel like the doll is like, I was awake and I was not asleep. Yeah.

Like, I don't know. So, it's just a scary doll, right? We're just gonna do two more. Let's skip the next one, because it's already, it's a bunch of dreams. Yeah. But I'd like to do the one after that, and then end on the update of something that we covered in the past.

Okay. So, Davis, the one that spears of the frozen cemetery, that's for you big boy. Okay, yeah, sorry, just, I was, No, you're fine. Re-read through the last one again. I do think like, there is like, even with the last one, I'm like,

maybe it had to do with the boyfriend the whole time. Like, there's like, with the third one too, the idea of like, her not wanting to do a thing and being dragged into it. I don't know, there's like a, kind of like how if you don't do something, if you don't make a choice, sometimes the choice is made by other circumstances, and with a cow not not wanting to like look at it and with the second one. The dark man who's like you want to pray? I'll fuck you up. It was saying himself. Yeah, just like I don't know. Maybe there's a like you can't hide,

you can't be ignorant from this thing and then it was like well the boyfriend was a dick about it and I broke up with him and they went away. It's like, maybe it was like, you had some lingering issues with your boyfriend and the breakup is what, I don't know. Maybe it's a doll, a brain of a boyfriend. Yeah. The brain is a crazy thing. So what you're doing with your daughter?

Literally was your boyfriend and in another way, maybe it was in your mind. Yeah, we're gonna skip the one that we, the next one, which was another dream and go down to Spears of the Frozen Cemetery. Okay. By combination any 4858, it's not really any combination if you then give the combination. Yeah, it's true actually.

Silly goose, hello, just to get it out of the way at the top. I'm a huge fan of the pod and he all been a massive inspiration for me to get into YouTube and film. It's gotten to the point now where I'm almost monetized and just got my first movie deal as a character and a fantasy film. You're already more, you're much more than us already. Wow, congratulations. How long is that you? Yeah, hey, I want to be in whatever Spider-Man films coming out. So I have, you all, to partially thank for motivating me and making those stressful and dark days better. So thank you. Anyways, onto my story as it's kind of long. In September of 2022, I began production

of my own original series on YouTube called Chasing the Extraordinary, where I and my co-host slash cameraman, slash good buddy, go out and look for evidence of all things cryptids, paranormal, and so on. As all good YouTube channels start, you know, you and your buddy, that's all you got, I can make them cool shit. We're both open-minded skeptics whenever it comes to anything within this genre of hobby

and take every piece of evidence we collect with a grain of salt. In October of 2022, and then later in March of 2023, we went a collective five times to an area of Colorado called Central City to film in reportedly one of Colorado's most haunted cemeteries, the Central City Cemetery. To give you guys a bit of perspective as to how this area is laid out, allow me to briefly explain it here for story's sake. As you can imagine, it snows a lot in Colorado, so the cemetery is always covered in at least a foot and a half of snow. The cemetery rests on the side of a hill, stretching from

the top to the bottom of the hill. The hill it rests on sits in a sort of bowl surrounded by the Rockies. There are no houses near the cemetery, the closest one being about a ten minute drive away from the area. At the bottom of the the hill there is a section of the cemetery called the catholic cemetery uh... where there is an old the the their own special section where there is an old mausoleum we call the dome literally it's a twelve foot tall by ten foot wide double

twelve inch by ten inch dome i i like was like wait are the double things it would make sense to be it would be like Zoolander size. That once held the body of a Scottish woman in it until she broke out and later buried in Scotland. Holy shit, and was later then used as a sort of storehouse for bodies when the cemetery was over capacity. Wow, that's really creepy, this is an old 1800s cemetery, so I guess it was just a different time.

The top of the hill has the Knights of Pithius, part of the cemetery, which is sort of International Secret Society type group, which is its own rabbit hole to go down, if you're interested. Perfect for days, I'm interested. Yeah. We investigated the whole cemetery,

but began our search each time in the Catholic cemetery, portion of the cemetery, where we got two EVPs on two separate occasions. Is that, is that stand for something I should know? Electronic voice phenomena. Yeah. It's like an audio recording that can't be explained the source from a ghost.

Yeah, that you didn't hear at the time, but only got picked up on that. You've definitely seen this in like a ghost show. Yeah, I was like, EVP sounds like I should know what it means. EVP on two separate occasions. One in October of 2022, while sitting in the dome, where my co-host asks, could you make that thud sound again? Do you remember us?

And about six seconds later, gets a response that's clear as day, which sounds like a breathy. Yeah. Or I guess. Yeah. The second EVP was in the area we dubbed the Grove. A small patch of trees about 500 feet from the dome. My co-host in True Horror movie fashion asked, is this a place you can rest? To which a voice seemingly whispered, no. While I will admit in the recording of the second EVP, I cannot confirm if the speech being heard is 100% a no. While I will admit in the recording of the second EVP, I cannot confirm if the speech being heard is 100% a no. However, I and many other people, friends, strangers, audio specialists, etc., all collectively

agree that no matter what it's saying, there is definitely speech that can be heard that is neither from I nor my co-host. The last compelling piece of evidence we collected was during the same night in March when we recorded the second EVP in which we had filmed strange balls of light uphill in the trees of the Knights of Pithius, part of the cemetery, before we even began our investigation. In the video, which I'll provide a link in timestamps for below, we see several faint balls of light that we couldn't get to show up on film. However, one of the balls gets extremely bright and then disappears. To us, it looked like if you had a ring light on some small circular light on a dimmer

and just quickly set it to the brightest setting and then back down to off. When we went to investigate the area about six hours later after we got the rest of the footage we needed, just to make sure it wasn't people or that there wasn't some kind of lawn light that we were mistaking as something a bit more extraordinary than we thought, it had also just snowed, so if it was people we would be able to see their tracks in the fresh powder. Upon investigating the area where we saw the lights, we did indeed discover a very small rectangular and dim lawn light, but concluded that there was no way it was the same light we saw earlier that night. Seeing as the lawn lights we saw, it wasn't... Seeing as the lawn light was particularly... it was partially buried in snow, and the fact

that it's so dim and short, it couldn't have possibly been the light we saw. It wasn't even the right color to be the lights we saw, considering that it was bluish, and the lights we saw were bright white and circular. You also couldn't see it from where we were seeing as we were looking uphill from the Catholic cemetery. We also didn't see any footprints or tracks in the snow in this area of the cemetery, so we knew it couldn't have been people with a light. We also concluded that these lights were weirdly high up in the trees. In the footage, you can't see see it but there's a four foot tall fence that

uh... parameters that part of the cemetery and these lights were appearing above the fence in the trees we estimated that the balls of light we saw had to have been approximately a minimum of seven to nine feet off the ground in the trees way too high to be from a person or that dim little on light possibly some strange phenomenon coming from this place at least we certainly thought so but do you guys think

uh... i do i'd love to yeah i think you think i think something i'm i am i do love to know your thoughts are left in your thoughts here's a link to my video and time stamps uh... balls of light at twenty nine fifty five first ebp at seven yeah so you know the length some. Yeah, yeah, so you can go to the link. There's a link I just again head over to the the subreddit just look up for the user combination any 4858 You got the link there. He's got them all marked you go check out pretty pretty interesting foot and check it out

Yeah, yeah, so this clever clever a promotional plan. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got me in that one. I was like all right All right The last one though that I'm gonna hand over to Alex, I think needs a preface, because I think we spoke about this, because this is an update to an older post that I think we spoke about it in a mini-sode. Yeah, this was about basically,

are we gonna, does it do a catch up in it, or should I give background on this? I just give a quick background. There's no real catch up in it? Or should I give background on this? I just give a quick background. There's no real catch up in it. Basically, there's an Alexa that has been picking up some, like you could listen back to the things that trigger your Alexa. And the question is whether or not the things

that are being heard on the Alexa as the triggers are EVPs or not. Yeah. And they're pretty convincing sounding. If you go back and listen to the original posts, that shit is the thing. At least from the point of view of a lay person, very convincing. This is called, My Mother is contacting me through our Echo show. Hey, all. First is is gonna be a long thread. Second, I wanna say thank you for all the comments on my previous post and people talking about it after being on the pod.

You all have some valid theories and I hope what I posted today will debunk them. So let's start it off this way. Some audio that wasn't posted but was fucky, I listened to that again and I think it may be me so I will not waste your guys' time with it. Next. I can appreciate somebody who can recognize something that's too questionable to use

as evidence. Next, I'm a registered on the Amazon Alexa, but haven't done the voice setup thing. Here are some screenshots to prove it wouldn't pick up my voice at the bottom of the audio clip on the app. Yeah, some screenshots linked to it again. You can go find this on the subreddit. Yeah, so those were two things that people were saying, or at least this thing about them being registered on the Alexa is one thing that people were saying.

There are some screenshots of the Echo app where I was clearly talking, this alone doesn't disprove everything that has happened though. So some stuff is clearly them talking. The Echo has not gone off in that way since then, I've tried to contact my neighbor as it may have been picking up noises from them. No response until about a week later

when I realized somebody has just moved into that apartment. It was vacant at the time. Some people also said that it may have been my sister's voice on the phone that caused the really weird distorted audio. I have audio of her voice so you can hear the difference. We had a falling out so all I can get was an older voice mail.

So you have an old voice. You can hear some voices. Yeah, to hear. So that's hear the difference. We had a falling out, so all I can get was an older voicemail. So you have an old voicemail. You can hear some voices. Yeah, so here. So that's in the post. Also, some have said that it was the TV on and the background being picked up. I have audio of us talking to the echo with the TV on. I also have audio of the TV being played

in the background and being picked up as background noise. Some have even said it was just picking up our voices from the other room. So here's the audio of me talking about the experience and the living room, and here's me talking about the experience in the living room, and here's me talking about the experience in the bedroom with which the echo is located. So you can hear the difference there for yourself. And honestly, I think that the person that was responding to this was somebody who listens to these for living.

So going back and listening to these, there's two sides to this. So it's kind of interesting. You might want to go see the responses to that other post so that you can get this a little bit more clearly. But this is interesting. I have been trying to debunk this and I have no explanation. I hope you guys can really see that I'm trying my best to debunk this as well. I really think that the audio picked up by Echo for the Dino, what time is bedtime is actually what Alex said. I know, but now it's bedtime. Yeah,

me too. Dyno. Yeah, I know what time. I know, but now it's bedtime. Yeah. It makes a lot of sense, and it fits perfectly. I still haven't been able to fully understand the Echo play for headphone, but the time that this went off, my girlfriend was home alone with her headphones in. Length, I honestly don't know. I don't know what it's saying because it's too fucked up to really try and make sense of it. And if you go to this post, everything is like hypertext. You can actually go listen to all the clips they're talking about. I love the discussion and the questions. This has been super intriguing to me and I appreciate you guys waiting so long for an update. I got busy with work and then the legend of Zelda tears

of the kingdom launched law. I know this is a super antelgeye-mact, and I hope this further proves the entirety of the previous post. If it is my mom or a spirit, time could work differently, where it could be one year for us, it could be 15 minutes to them, we just don't know. My mother could be trying to contact me right after her passing in her head, but it's been a year and a half of our flow of time.

I loved hearing it on the pod, and my GF was just excited here at Covered. I would love to pick Jesse's brain, though, with him being sceptical at all. Anyway, I'll end it here. Thanks once again for reading was just excited to hear it covered. I would love to pick Jesse's brain though with him being skeptical at all. Anyway, I'll end it here. Thanks once again for reading guys. And if there are any further occurrences, I will update you all.

So, on that post, taking a look, there are not a lot of comments pushing back on what he rebutted, which is fascinating. But there's just, so if anybody hasn't seen the update, I would go check it out, like Alex said, he hyperlinked everything so you can go listen to everything. And if you have other explanations, I update, I would go check it out like Alex said, he hyperlinked everything so you can go listen to everything. And if you have other explanations, I mean, I'm more interested to hear other people's

explanations and more potential debunkings if it can be done debunked at all because it is very weird audio. To listen to him, Dave, so if you haven't heard it, after this you should go listen to it. It's very creepy. I haven't, but I like, I mean, one of my problems with ghost stuff is that they're relying on the same old, like, bits, and I, not, doesn't make me believe it more, but I find it more interesting when modern technology, or like more modern technology is used. So the idea of an Amazon Echo being like a device for this kind of thing

is just immediately more uh... interesting to me than it was way more appealing with the housing rods though we could do some dousing rods that usually tends to work there's a in in charades office there's in i think it's an amazon one of those things and it will occasionally like we were there one weekend doing work and just sort of playing christmas music and it was not christ Christmas music and it was not Christmas time and it was fucking

Horrifying spooky spooky spooky and that shit can make people think things are haunted that shit is just weird just technology glitching in happens Yeah, but that's it. That's our read listener stories What so that was November so like another six months. We'll do this again I can't believe that it's been that long. It's crazy Well, yeah, cuz usually it was, we did it every couple of months for a while, but honestly, the past year or so, we've been doing a lot more bigger like series, so just not a lot of room for this stuff,

but having Davis here, nice light, chill episode, perfect reason to go read some cool stories. Thank you for joining us, Davis. Davis, you have all kinds of shit going on. Fucking pimp that shit out. What do you got going on in your world of entertainment well first of all it's always pleasure to be here uh... and now that i'm listening through it i'm excited to like uh... pierce the billion keep learning it's yeah so your eyes will be open

there's like it's wild it's wild and it's given me uh... new world views i'm still like highly skeptical of just about everything because like... You should be. You should be. Yes, correct. But it's really interesting and it's weird. I think somebody, I think it was Jesse in one of the episodes or one of you guys were talking about how like alien stuff, some of the more outlandish stuff has the same like energy that like religious stories have where it's like It's just science-based stuff for whatever and it's still needing people to be important and all these like things and it that like perspective is been really like interesting to think about how like

Maybe a lot of supernatural. It's all maybe it's all actually cut from the same Similar cloth and it's just something that's interesting to think about and I agree man I think like Jesse uses that argument and I know you're like that point later on is just it's an interesting thought experiment like what if they're all tied together where if they're not individual things but all just partly said part of the same cloth that are just peaking through in weird ways. Is it the Fibonacci's? What, isn't it like a magic number? Where it's like, it just, it appears a lot. It's like, that, but it's like a story version where it's like similar themes that have like, different, whether it's gods or aliens,

like, it's the same basic structure expressed in pre-advis. Preception, our perception dictates the context right some of the earliest UFO encounters are like not little green men but weird airships that don't make sense with hairy monkey dudes in suits it with big noses and just stuff that we don't see anymore so you wonder if that was being seen was that because in the 1910s that was the best way the human brain could like a malgum together what was happened or was that the bigfoot nineteen tens that was the best way the human brain could like a malgum together what was happened or was at the big-foot's landing bro it's popular

yet there's like uh... fuck what is it called the big foot invasion in pennsylvania that happened through uf o flap alixin uh... we'll get it don't be we will cover that one day that is an actual thing that happened the uf o invasion of pennsylvania there's a that's a term I learned about on like, saw bones, like mass something event, mass whatever, but it's like. Mass, who's the notion of that? Mass hysteria.

But like I think it was like what they attribute to that weird like dancing phenomenon. I think there's a lot of things on the dancing episode, yeah. But it's like the idea, yeah, it's like, people have a massive shared reaction, but what is happening is based on the morality or the pop cultural elements of the time. Like dancing was sort of seen as a forbidden thing, and so people being maybe frustrated with

the shackles of society, they were just like, fuck it, I'm'm gonna dance. I don't care and like I feel like there's some semblance of that Energy in like that where they're like monkeys in the shit like everybody like kind of all has the same Pop cultural reference for what an alien might be so they all see it like yeah, it's like they self-suggest What they see my boy you're on the path. You don't even know it You're on the path and you're well you're well down the path it's so interesting there's no like real answers but maybe because there's no answers it's like why I like open into movies now I got about it where I'm like I

want to just chew on it for like what I'm and even though you go looking for answers go in like in terms of quantum mechanics we end up with more questions anyway, and it just makes you think, yeah, okay, the universe isn't exact. Reality is very flexible. It is a very wobbly thing. Yeah. Uh, oh, but things to pimp out.

Uh, yeah, yeah, sorry, yeah. The Star Wars Old Cannon Book Club, uh, it's new, it's awesome, we've got a bunch of episodes. It's Patreons. It's Davis and it's Jesse, and we're going through Star Wars in order the old stuff from the beginning and If you're thinking like oh, it's gonna be old and whatever no, it's like it's so

Fascinating. It's so interesting and relevant to modern Star Wars surprisingly It's surprisingly now especially now with the on and everything. Yeah, it's mind blowing and we got a Patreon for it. That's Patreon, is it just Patreon? That's w-o-c-b-c-patreon.com. Yeah. You can support us there. There's like watch along. A lot of cool stuff coming out, so that's the big one.

Warpzone is my YouTube channel that I do sketch comedy, pop culture stuff with my buddies. So check me out there. I do have socials. So I don't really, there's been a lot but. I've known you now for a while, not nearly as long as Alex,

but I've never known you to be very active on social media at all. I just, I'm an in person. You love to see it. You got it guy. You're a good energy, yeah, you gotta be there. It's too much to, I can't keep my brain doesn't work though. Maybe we'll go for coffee when I visit if I can wake up at eight o'clock I'll drag your ass out about don't worry. I know yeah, or like we can I'll just bring the coffee to you Oh, look at that. Oh

I'm gonna be so treated so nice in my life. All right. I'm sorry to hear that no one's ever ever made you coffee Damn, not even Alex when I was there dude Dude, what? Yes, I did. Dude. I know you did, huh? How could you do this? Uh, tune in. That's right. We're down. That's right, we're down.

We're down. We're down for 15 more minutes of this. Uh, yeah, yeah, we're gonna go do a minute of this. Right, guys. Thank you guys so much for supporting us. We'll be back next week with another episode. Uh, Jesse will be back next week, and if you are at all on Twitter, he'll follow our ChulmanidePod on Twitter or any social media, and you'll get a little preview as to the insane, oh no, shit Alex, you've got next episode,

don't you? Chronicles of me and I continue next mini-sode also. So, I don't want Jesse to miss any of the white knuckle moments. So, yeah, no. We'll be back anyway. We have so much we appreciate you. We love you. Be my wife for sitting outside the building on our porch

one night and join ourselves. I needed to go to the bathroom, so I stepped back inside and after a few moments I hear my wife go, holy shit get out of here! So I quickly dashed back outside and she's looking up the sky and fall. I look up to her and there's a perfect line of dozen lights traveling across the sun. 1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1-1.5-1-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5-1.5- Thank you.