Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 222 - Indrid Cold Part 1: Intergalactic Man of Mystery

Episode Date: October 8, 2023

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I'm pleased or I will. As may the wind and the wind be at me. Hello everybody and welcome back to the Chaluminati podcast episode 222 as always I'm one of your host Mike Martin joined by the the Vic Reeves and Bob Mortimer of LA I feel like I've been Bob Mortimer before. Have you? Oh? Well, I feel like a Bob Mortimer again. I can't remember who I've said and who I might who have not said anymore at this point It's it's come to the point where it's just it's all born together It's your time it's time for a new era of weird,

inexplicable duos that you have a like insanely deep knowledge of. Yeah, I'm gonna have to dip into some of some other obscure knowledge. Yeah. And you know, that's so, that's so Bob Mortimer, you know what I mean? Yeah, you know exactly. That's so Bob Mortimer to me. I'm excited to dive into today's episode, but first we have to chill right

at the top because we all know within 30 seconds, you all stop listening. We have a live show on October 18th, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a,, have a nice weekend. It's not on a Thursday, so that's always nice. I'll post a food guide for the patrons. You can hang out, have a nice little weekend, jam out. You know what I'm saying? Stay for a day or two, it's Los Angeles, it's the best city in the world. More importantly, it's the Jesse Cox,

black and orange party. Show up, we're black, we're orange, combine the two. See you there. This is it. Let's have it happen, folks. Orange is the new black. But orange and black is the new Cox.

Listen, you sure you don't want to do everyone in the entire theater wears a full ghost face. No, no, I'm the cause of it. I don't want that. You think I'd be sick as hell. Alex is big scream. Alex is big scream. Like this kid. I would not, I don't want anyone to spend $29.99 on Alex's big scream. Alex's big scream. Like this kid.

I would not, I don't want anyone to spend $29.99 on Alex's big scream. Do not do Alex's big scream. Alex's big scream is an unlicensed, unavigualized. The fact that you say that means people will 100% be like, Alex said don't, but like, what'd it be funny if we did? If you come dressed as ghost face, you better have some fucking orange on there. That's all I'm fucking saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. You better. What is this on there that's all I'm fucking saying yeah yeah yeah

You better what was this like threat that you're giving out? I'm very confused I'm not I'm not gonna say who I'm gonna fight when I when I when I get to the theater He all the ghost faces and he want to go space Alex is fighting all of you at once. I'm gonna do it I'm gonna go I'm gonna have that special was up version of the mask from a scary movie. I'm coming after everybody. Can we like, can we charge per person to watch that fight? No, but we can't charge per month on patreon.com slash to the Luminati pod where when you give us money,

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And I want you all to know that you should not get a hotel in downtown Los Angeles. You should get a hotel in downtown Los Angeles. You should get it outside of downtown Los Angeles and take a car there when you come and you'll have a much better time. Go to the east side, go hang out over there, go hang out in West Adams. Go hang out, go hang out over by me,

go to Venice, California. Yeah, go to Venice, California. Go get an Airbnb with six of you and go hang out by Jesse and, uh, you know, get thrown out of your Airbnb onto the beach. If you see me, you can shout and I'll be like, we're drinking. And then you'll pay for it. There'll be like, guys, I saw the, he'll be like, I saw the frog man.

I can show you where I saw the frog man at the drive-thru for. I'll blow your logo. Yeah. Oh, God. You'll have it. It'll be be you become part of the Chilimani history forever. Patreon.com slash Chilimani.com. For forever, which is a history you never, you definitely want to be a part of, rather. We have, oh yeah. I don't know.

What happens if you're part of Chilimani history? You would run the risk of getting canceled eventually when we all go down for something we can't even understand yet. Excellent. I love me. No, not, not, Jesse's left. There are many years of demon. He's got possible deniability on this whole show.

We don't, we're not even sure he's on the show. Somebody could have paid $10,000 at any point and change his opinion to whatever they wanted. Yeah, and actively ruin the show apparently. You know, it's a, it's a thing we have to be very cautious of. Just me. Speaking of, you know, time passing. This is an episode I think kind of like opens up with a reminder of how long we've been doing this as we tend to do.

And just so you know, this is going to be a two-parter going in. So gentlemen, I want you to reach back into your memories just for me. This episode is that harsh reminder that we've been doing this for far longer than it feels like we've been doing it. But if you remember, nearly five years ago, episodes 28, 29, 30 were our trio of Mothman episodes. It's lingered since then for five years. The final episode of that trio was less about the Mothman though and more about another kind of paranormal event creature that occurred around that same time and place, that of the mysterious alien visitor known as Indrid Cold. The man who he had decided and the man he decided to reach out to and the author of our primary source

for the episode, a man by the name of Woodrow Darren Berger, who wrote none other than visitors from Lannulose. This is your book. Woodrow? Let's be Woodrow is such an old man. Woodrow W. Darren Berger. Woodrow. Lannulose.

Lannulose. Well, we'll talk about that in a more probably part two than part one here. But just so you know, like this book, when it was written, it was written way back in like the, pretty early, it was like the 60s, I think late 60s, I'll double check. But when this was first made, only six copies were actually printed. It took years before they were, somebody was able to get the rights of the book and actually do a mass printing of this thing. Isn't that like before the Mothman was cited? Wasn't that in the 70s?

So, uh, well, this event takes place in the 60s. I did, yeah, no, this was all around the same time, right? I'm trying to remember, actually, when did Mothman, uh, pleasant, whatever it is? Point pleasant? Pleasant, whatever it is. Point pleasant? No, it was about two weeks. This all occurred about two weeks prior to the Mothman sightings, which happened on November 15th of 1966.

And this all took place in the beginning of November of 1966 as well. Also important to know that this is a forward in this book and another familiar name in the Chiliminaadi lore, a man by the name of John Keel. You all know John Keel because he wrote Mothman Diaries, was heavily involved in the Mothman thing.

And a fun fact I learned, the reason he was even in the area at the time of this wasn't for Mothman, wasn't for the UFO sightings or the injured cold. He was actually there because there was a woman who had written to him and claimed that she owned a cat with wings. So he got catfished by a flying cat? Yeah, literally. And when she got there, she owned a no cat and said she gave it to a boy because the wings had fallen off.

She gave it to a boy? Yeah, she's gave it to a boy. So he got like, he got like rejected from like a like, sort of like personal level and that you didn't even get me. Yeah, I'm like a weird professional level. We also talk about how once the cat no longer had wings, she was like, well, I don't want it anymore. Yeah, no, no, no. What kind of owner is that? That's terrible.

It's kind of a bizarre. This is all happening in like that same two weeks span too. It's all very, very strange. Do you guys remember much about Indred Cold at all from like our first episode and our only episode on him? I know that he's a lizardly folk. I know that he's got lizardly. Not lizardly, but it's kind of like a weird pale,

slimy man with red lips is what I remember. You're describing men in black is what you're describing. But it's not that it wasn't... That hot, he was tan, he he wasn't signing. He was normal. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, big alien vibes though like he doesn't he He's not right. He's tall like he's proportionally. He's weird He can speak through psychic language right? Yeah, we got to let Pathy look a lot of other aliens He came on the road in that like craft and like he came straight down. I remember that. Yeah, you got to let Pithy look a lot of other aliens. He came on the road in that like craft and like came straight down I remember that. Yeah, you remember that stuff. You just remember he was a man and black

She wasn't just a lizardly a lizardly sort. I'm positive. He wasn't a lizardly sort I'm gonna let you know we've never once in this show said he was a lizardly sort Yeah, you know when venom you, you know when Venom like licks himself, he goes a little too wild. That's like what I'm imagining. Indred cold is. Indred cold. You've got a very different image of who Indred cold is. I don't know why it was.

It's probably some like, it's probably some creepy pasta painting of him from like 2004 that I saw on live journal that I'm like, that's like burned into my brain. That tricks out. Before we dive in, the question I always like to ask is who is the person that's kind of the focus of this? Woodrow Darren Burger being the main person who wrote the book, who was kind of the main focus of where we got a lot of our information.

And the thing with Woodrow Darren Burger by a lot of people, like kind of people around this time I guess, or just like any every man, there was nothing really special about his upbringing, There was nothing really special about his upbringing. There was nothing really traumatic about his upbringing, not much as like super known about his every day, but it seemed like he was just a normal working man that really had nothing special in his past that would indicate, maybe this is like his way of dealing with trauma. It doesn't mean that that didn't occur, of course, but in all research that I've been able

to do, we just don't have anything of that to kind of like point at to say, Hey, maybe this is what's causing it. That's how I feel about his like venom lizard. Yeah, yeah. Well, that's different. Yeah. You know, that's just there's not any research that doesn't. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. There's no evidence that JFK Jr. didn't rise and go walk off and live in a small town in Alabama. And then the other day, the same thing happened. And then the other day, the same thing happened. And then the same thing happened. And then the same thing happened.

And then the same thing happened. And then the same thing happened. And then the same thing happened. And then the same thing happened. And then the same thing happened. And then the same thing happened. And then the same thing happened. And then the same thing happened.

And then the same thing happened. And then the same thing happened. You know, Mothamin hasn't shown up yet. The bridges have yet to collapse. This is very early in November. The night of November 2nd, 1966, to be exact. In this night, began as any other for our kind of focus of our story, Woodrow Darren Berger, a seemingly every man who was a, who was a traveling like sewing machine salesman for a living as far as I could tell. And he worked in a factory as well. He kind of had like, it seemed like two gigs.

On this particular night, he was traveling on the Interstate 77 as he did nearly every day. He was surrounded by the usual sights and sounds about all two familiar highway. His mind was probably preoccupied with the events of his day, plans for tomorrow, or maybe even comforting thoughts of his home, going home to wife, Mary Edna May, which is such a, I like such a small town woman like, like just like house wife name Mary Edna May. I don't know, it's not about it that just rolls off the tongue nicely. It sounds like she makes a mean like gooseberry pie.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've never had a gooseberry pie. Have you? Is it real? It's an old world taste. What would you say? A gooseberry tastes like. Yeah, what? It's a lizardly sword, it's there. Yeah? No, it's bitter. It's not like, it makes sense why it's not one of the main berries that gets around.

But it's like, have a bad name or, like, what if it's sugar with it? Yeah, I mean, okay, any berry, right? Like any berry especially, they're very bitter fruits. Any just a little bit of sugar, a little lemon juice, cook it down, that's you're gonna get a nice little jelly out of it. I don't know. Gooseberries, I haven't really, like, I've had it once before.

You haven't really like Gooseberry experimented. Like you're not the Gooseberry Thornton. No, I don't have like a gooseberry, like a working gooseberry. Not the gooseberry Baron yet. Now would you say a gooseberry is more akin to like a raspberry or a blackberry or like a cranberry? You don't know it yet Jesse, but you sound a lot like injured cold right now. Like a red car.

Now what would you say a red car is more akin to? I don't know. It's like a red little berry. I guess kind of like a red car. Now what would you say a red car is more akin to I don't know It's like a red little berry. I guess kind of like a cranberry. I don't know why is it called gooseberries to goose eat them? It's a very in-depth questioning of what a goose is. Yeah, what is what do you I don't know these things? I don't know. I had one. I ate something. It looked like grapes Okay All right, well, you get back to the story at hand here. I went there in Burger, driving on the highway, thinking of daily events, you know, back into

the scene. And as the rolling hills of West Virginia were sweeping by, something out of the ordinary began to take shape. At first, there was lights of a truck that came up behind him and rushed up on his car, but quickly passed by him, only to just be another vehicle. But within moments of that truck passing by, however, lights of another truck seemingly peered behind him, rushed up behind him in similar fashion, however, as it approached closer. This truck didn't simply drive by, but from the dark expanse above, it wasn't driving behind him, but flying.

An unidentified flying object came up from behind him, ascended over his vehicle with precision, and shortly zipped the head about 100 feet. It slowly and eventually slipped ahead about 100 feet before settling down. As Darren Berger himself through the car in park in Sure, Fear and Panic. Thank you to Talkspace for sponsoring today's episode and you know by now I am an absolute warrior for mental health. It is so imperative to how well you're taking care of yourself. Listen, if you go to the doctor or the dentist or the

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It didn't land like upright Kerosene lamp. It was actually horizontal and more looking like kind of like that bow tie shape of like a, you can actually see it, boys, can you see this on the cover? Yes. It looks like, I wanna say kind of like, like if you, this is so stupid.

If a lemon was modified so that if you stood it on its long side, you could sit it straight up with like a flat little end on the two tapered ends, that's what it looks like. If you roll the lemon till it was like, kinda flat like a football, and then you added like feet, like from a couch on either side of the lemon

and but it kind of is like more like the consistency of like a bon glass like it looks kind of like a it has like a fancy rolling pin you would kind of get it like a you know what looks like a vase your 12 year old made in art class it looks like it looks like a big it looks like a big piece of kelp like like the like a big piece of kelp like like the end of a piece of kelp. It looks so what's that one Pokemon hold on show back Chobay? Belle Belle flat what's the what's the Pokemon that kind of looks like a flower? Bulbasaur. No the one that has like the yellow head. Oh weeping Bell. Yeah he's like oh no it looks like. Okay we're gonna miss your bill of Pokemon Bell. Yeah, he's like, oh no, that's what it looks like. Okay, we're going to the whole world. The Mr. Bill of Pokemon, yeah.

Yeah, I don't know. Oh, sorry, me Alex. The Moth Man of SNL sketches. Oh, no. I hope the listeners have a very vivid image of what the thing looks like. Oh, no, it's vivid. That's, no, is actually just me realizing how old

the Mr. Bill sketch is on Saturday Night Live. Oh, well, yeah,, yeah. Oh, no. How old is that sketch? Oh, I got to say 80s. Okay. Well, before I was watching, I guess. All right. So, I guess that this craft came up behind him, zipped ahead, and while Darren Berger brought

his vehicle to a cautious stop, he could only watch in a mix of awe and trepidation as this bizarre and extraordinary craft made a gentle landing about a hundred feet on the road ahead. The sight itself was baffling enough, but what happened next would change the trajectory of Darenberger's life permanently. The craft, having now fully settled, opened of a door where there seemingly was none, not to reveal a creature, but a man, not some alien with tentacles or multiple eyes, but a simple man who could easily blend into any crowd here on Earth with ease. While his immediate physical appearance drew no curiosity, his attire, however, was certainly

not from any earthly fashion catalog. This will be the thing I think you remember him being slimy for. It wasn't really slimy. What were you going to say Alex? I just gave the impression that his that inside his mouth, which he never opened. He had a long slimy venom like tongue that and licked his own eyeballs with. Yeah, just to keep him moist. Yeah, of course. The the clothes he was wearing shimmered, a blue metallic suit beneath a lustrous overcoat that seemed to both absorb and reflect the surrounding moonlight. He maintained a large, welcoming smile and kept his arms crossed

with his hands both neatly tucked up into his armpits. It's a very important point he makes for whatever reason, but yeah, he's got his arms crossed and he's like this and he's just smiling. Yeah, as you do Like the creeper from DC comics. I don't know who that is. Do you think it'd be better if instead of a suit? He had like Spenders and he held him like he was an old time like oh, I don't know nothing about Lawyer in right do you think that'd be better? You think that's what it was? Oh, well, I may be injured cold We don't how did he how did he hold it was he like his arms crossed and both of his hands were neatly tucked into his armpit so like Remember Mary Catherine Gallagher

Exactly that's what I was thinking as well. Yeah, I Need a star S&L. He was there for the Will Ferrell years. He saw it. He knows it. I guess Tyler. Molly Shannon. Yep. Yeah, I remember that movie, Othling, well, the man himself stood around five foot 11, weighing

somewhere between 185 pounds according to, according to Woody, which I'm just going to call him Woody from now on. Sure. Yeah. So, like, you know, kind of tall, skinny, but just going to call him Woody from now on. Sure. Yeah. So, like, you know, kind of tall skinny, but the man's strange attire in demeanor only held Woody's attention for a moment in time before there was a knock on his window from the strange man who had approached from the ship. And as the window, as he rolled the window down without moving his lips, this man introduced himself simply as cold.

Yes, this was obviously none other than injured cold of the title's episode. The episode's title, rather. We sure he wasn't just low, like cold, like chilly. I'm cold. I'm very cold. That's why he had his arms tucked into his mouth. Yeah, the dude was just cold.

It starts freezing here. He wasn't smiling. He was fucking his face muscles were constricted because he was, go, go, go. Well, though his mouth smiling or constricted, whatever you wanna call it, did not move from its position.

His voice or rather his thoughts resonated very clearly in Darren Burgers' mind. This is kind of the first string of similarities between other alien-like encounters, obviously. Indered cold with this blue gleaming uniform that shimmered under the faint highway lights, maintained steady eye contact with Darren Burger, giving off a sense of profound and bizarre ancient wisdom. Kind of like this guy who just stood with authority, I imagine, when he mentions it like that. Just kind of stood like without really any wavering, I suppose. The nature of their conversation was as unique as the circumstances that had brought them

together. Telepathy, a concept mostly relegated to science fiction here on Earth, was the chosen mode of communication. Every thought from Indred Cold radiated clearly, but not without asking first. Indra did ask as the windows rolled down through vocals asking if he would prefer the conversation to be vocal or to be telepathic and sensing how nervous Woodrow was, Woody was, cold then made the decision to go ahead and make it all telepathic. Every thought radiated clearly and piercing directly into Darenberger's consciousness,

and there was no room for pretence or deception according to him. Their minds were, in that moment, a sort of shared realm. To Woody, it shocked him, and while it left him confused and frightened, Indred cold repeatedly informed Woody to not be afraid, almost understanding every time those emotions rose how afraid he was. And Indred, for all intents and purposes, seemed simply curious. He was asking questions about humanity, and Woody described this conversation the way it was happening, the way it felt, as though there was a tingling in the front of his face or head, that there was a weird tingling

sensation when the telepathy was happening, which I think is kind of a unique detail that we don't get a lot from people who experience this telepathy communication with grays, for instance. Indra's questions ended up showcasing a profound curiosity. To him, he was curious what the distant lights over the, in the road were, asking if that's where humans gathered and what it was. Woody understanding that he was speaking about the city in the distance answered exactly that, that it was a city and it was where trade, work, and people lived.

Indra'd asked if Woody worked for a living to which he said yes. And Andrew explained he did as well and that he was what was known as a seeker. That was like his job from where he came from, a seeker. Andrew, perhaps surprisingly, wholly understood simply replying that his people call, uh, an injury rather, I, uh, let me rephrase that there. Andrew's perhaps surprisingly wholly understood what Woody was meant, talking about the city and the distance, calling it a city, and then said to him that his people have similar places as well, but they're not called cities.

They're simply called gatherings, gathering of folks. Gathering a focus? Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm just, some just a country alien. How do we all just sit around the fire, bust out a slice of Mama Gleep Gloves' Gooseberry pie. Gooseberry is actually from a different planet. Yeah, that's why they're called Gooseberries.

It's spelled like, it's like Beetlejuice. Right, right, right. Beetlejuice. Goose. Goose. Goose. You know, you guys. Andrew went on to say that the illumination

and the city and the distance symbolized like human innovation, societal structures, and possibly even their struggles and triumphs. He was just kind of taking this in from a distance. He quiz would grow about their purpose, their origins and their significance. And perhaps sensing Woody's continued anxiety, Andrew then went on to say to him

into telepathic form, quote, Mr. Darenberger, look at me, I'm the same as you are. I sleep, eat, breathe, and bleed even as you do. And in that, it seemed to actually kind of bring Darenberger's or Woody's kind of high anxiety down a little bit to continue this conversation. During this conversation and this continued questioning, the ship injured had stepped out from was hovering about a 50 to 100 feet above Woody's truck

while they conversed. After he had walked away from the ship, apparently the ship had lifted off and then went over to his car and just hovered over it for some reason. And unlike, say, an abduction scenario in the style of the grays, while the ship hovered and injured spoke with Woody, his truck never shuttered down. He was, it ended up be running fine. He didn't have any black of memory or blank moments of time.

Everything seemed to operate wholly normally. And so much so that there were cars still driving by him. It was still late at night and not many, but he did note that there were vehicles that passed by. And they didn't stop, everyone just kept going? So we'll get to the other sightings that people do claim that they saw them and they went to the police.

Like we have police reports for all this stuff. And while there was fear and anxiety still within Woody, he never felt like he was in any true danger from this moment on. And the conversation continued to flow. It became evident that Injured's line of questioning wasn't merely out of alien curiosity, but there was a deeper intent, a desire to just understand the very ethos of humanity. His questions became a little bit more specific, peculiar. He asked about things like why humans are at war with each other a lot of the time,

why this seemed like humans are always so angry at each other. Things that a lot of abduction scenarios end up passing along like peace and love and stay with your fellow human and stop blowing each other up and stop ruining the planet. But instead of him passing those messages along, he was actually just kind of curious as to why the humans acted like they did. And Dernberger couldn't really give a great answer because he was a fucking every man who worked in a factory in a small town.

It's just kind of an interesting way of imagining an alien kind of coming down and being like, what's up with all of that? Like, you know, like we're always talking about how silly it is that we're so centrally located towards the middle of these like legends and stories and theories about space and Earth always being like a farm world or like the special development world. But I love the idea of Indra had called just coming down here and being like, how can you guys haven't figured out all this like bullshit? What the hell is wrong with you guys? Like, he has nothing to do with it? He has no he's just a chill guy who likes

Barbecues and hanging out and he's just wondering why everybody's not just playing guitar all the time Just a small town alien He just brought a pie by he just finished making it. I don't know to stand all all this jib jab happening in the streets of the cities these days I don't know nothing. That's exactly it. All I know is my what Ma'an Park hole told me I Do love the website jibjab.com My simple Southern lifestyle gives me a proclivity for simple cartoonish animations. I like when they put my face on the cartoons. I said, I never said those things and yet there is my mouth speaking them loud into this world.

What's wrong with you humans? How did you do this? And on a birthday card for all occasions. How did you do that so so magically? You know, you called this transformed into a fascinating character. I'm really enjoying where he's going. Well, I thought he was a lizard guy, so this is all new for me. No, yeah. Well, then after he likes his tongue, he sticks it out, likes like an eyeball or something. Uh, but I mean, like hilariously, like that idea of him just being this like seemingly small town doesn't get why humans are like this is kind of like the perfect way to describe

him, not that he's like from a naive small town, but the way humanity acts toward each other to him makes no logical sense. Everything about how humanity acts in there, always trying to kill each other, all this stuff seems very curious to him and he doesn't quite understand why things are the way they are. And we'll talk more about that as his encounters with Andrew Cold continue. Yeah, questions about human interactions, emotional expression, societal norms, and even our aspirations started pouring in to Woody's brain.

Woody, while initially taking a back, found himself answering as if he was the chosen representative of the entire human race. And he doesn't mean that he actually was, but he almost felt like he wasn't built for this. Like, this is not where, like, he's doing a poor job answering this guy's questions because Indra just isn't getting, it's not making any more sense for Indra, the more Woody tries to explain it. And the way he said it would work is it so the thoughts would form in his mind

and just like without really any effort. And when he heard him talking to him, it felt like it was his own thoughts happening but in a different voice, very, very fascinating. But a mix this, oh sorry, Jesse, were you gonna say something? Nope. Okay, amidst his barrage of questions,

Andrew started revealing small tidbits about his origin as well. He painted a kind of cosmic picture of a planet by the name of Lanyulose nestled within the distant starlit realms of the Ganymede galaxy. And if you that sounds familiar because Ganymede's also a moon, we'll get to that. The Ganymede sector is a quiet, down-home portion of the galaxy. And Lanyulose is like America when it was first born. The vivid imagery that was pouring into Woody's brain was a vast green landscapes, architectural

wonders that defy gravity and a society that thrived on mutual respect and advanced knowledge that made land your loaths sound both alien and familiar simultaneously to what a year. This conversation, as deep as it may seem, only lasted about 10 minutes before without injured giving any sort of sign, the ship that had been hovering above them now moved forward back about 50 feet landed without cold-making any notions. And when the conversation was done, cold simply turned and walked back to the ship. But not before, Indra told Woody

to report this encounter to the local officials and that this wouldn't be the only time that they cross paths. Then within the ship, a doorway, the same one that opened when he left opened again, and a second figure seemed to be standing on the inside, reaching out to help cold up before the door closed and the craft flew off.

Initially, he thought maybe they were opening and shutting the door, but later experience, he learned that's not exactly how it works. So he's just assuming that the person was maybe helping cold back up onto the ship. He's not entirely sure. And yeah, and then this little caracene thing flew up into the sky and zipped off,

making a weird fluttering, warbling sound as it flew off into the distance. So, even remember the sound it made. Kind of a weird little encounter that definitely left our Woodrow absolutely shaken. As injured colds, oh yeah, sorry, if you're about to say something, cut me off, Dean can edit it out, don't worry about it. Okay. As injured cold spacecraft soared into

the inky expanse of the night sky above, leaving only a transient glimmer and twig, Woodrow Darenberger found himself alone again on that desolate stretch of interstate 77. The stillness of the night was almost palpable, save for the faint hum of distant cars and the rustling leaves carried by a gentle autumn breeze. But the world around almost palpable, save for the faint hum of distant cars and the rustling leaves carried by a gentle autumn breeze. But the world around him felt different, as if he had stepped out of one reality and into one entirely another one, which we can kind of describe as if we believe this for what it is, kind of ontological shock. You've got to have that moment where your world no longer makes sense and things that no

longer make sense happen in front of you. You saw it. You interacted with it, and now you're like, what the fuck just happened? His hands, which had been gripping the steering wheel the entire time with the intensity born of nervous anticipation, now began to tremble slightly. His heart started racing, and still processing the gravity of what transpired, it almost sounds like he began to have the beginnings of a panic attack, or an anxiety attack. He took a few deep breaths, trying to calm his racing thoughts in the adrenaline that were coursing through his veins. He looked around, half expecting to see some sort of residual

evidence of the encounter, a footprint, some mark on the road, or some unexpl explainable sign in the sky, maybe, in some like godly showing. But there was nothing. Only the road ahead, illuminated faintly by the headlights of his vehicle, and some like godly showing. But there was nothing. Only the road ahead illuminated faintly by the headlights of his vehicle and the familiar surroundings of West Virginia's rolling hills. He started the engine back up and felt a myriad of emotions. There was awe certainly from having witnessed something so profoundly bizarre and other worldly, and there was fear and inherent reaction to the unknown. But surprisingly, there was also a sense of purpose and clarity, perhaps instilled by

colds words, or perhaps emerging from deep within Daringberger himself. But the drive home, which usually felt pretty routine, was now a journey filled with introspection. Every turn, every mile, and every landmark prompted reflections not on just his encounter, but on life, existence, the vast uncharted cosmos cosmos and what we just don't know as a people. And upon reaching his home in mineral wells, Woodrow faced the challenge of trying to articulate the inexplicable. How do you share such an experience without sounding fucking crazy?

He decided the first thing he would do is confide in the person he trusted, his wife and family. And as the words poured out of his mouth, he could see the play of emotions on his wife's face, concern, disbelief, fear, and perhaps a hint of curiosity or wonder. His wife was trying to grapple with the enormity of what he was saying and was supportive, if not worried, was her husband's life in danger, were these beings real, was he hallucinating, were they going to return? Were they from the government? The household that night was a bov. It was a buzz with whispered conversations, speculative discussions, and an undeniable

undercurrent of anxiety. The tremors of his own hands, he reclames, didn't really even stop until 3 a.m. rolled around. And it's around that time, the way he says it in the book, I'm kind of just describe it a little bit less so. It sounds more like he was able to bring his tremors to a stop by being able to finally rationalize what was making him tremor. He basically said to himself that it was the telepathy and the unexpected visit that were making

him so shaken and so anxious. When I think that might have just been him being like, again, rationalizing it away and maybe being like, you know, trying to make sense of what it was. Sure. Regardless, that night he was able to go to bed and fall asleep pretty soundly when he woke up the next morning, the only thing he could think of was the spaceship. The next day and the days that follows, the incident on interstate 77 became more than just a personal experience.

Darren Berger's accounts would reach the ears of neighbors, friends, and local media. And soon, there would be reports and curious individuals that would end up knocking on his door, seeking to hear firsthand about his own experiences. But that wouldn't happen immediately. As 8 a.m. on November 3rd rolled around in 1966, he tried to maintain a semblance of normalcy. He left his house for work as usual and entered state interstate 77. He was still extremely excited about the experience he had just had, if not a little trepidaceous

and anxious about what would happen to him. And his employer would notice it. He walked in and he just wasn't able to maintain a fully normal persona the whole time. I'm just imagining that he just like met Matthew McConaughey out on the road. And he was like, hey man, it's crazy out there. You know, like there's so much more to this life while you guys just fighting. All right. You know, like, he just like met this dude out on the road and he's like, this guy, man, he's just like so crazy.

He was like floating dude, you don't understand. I just feel that vibe from him, I don't know why. Yeah, I mean, it's actually not a bad comparison because of the way. Yeah, I imagine if you like randomly stumbled across a super celebrity that like you weren't expecting to. Hey man, I'm from, let me tell you something, I'm from a land you loose.

You know what I mean? Oh, land you loose is what I call my own special happy place. You know what I mean? Oh, that new loss is what I call my own special happy place, you know what I'm saying? Just so you know too, the ship that you kind of woke up thinking about, the one that was on the road, he describes as somewhere between 45 to 60 feet long and 12 to 20 feet high to give you an idea of like, how big the ship, the guy,

the engine cold kind of stepped out of was with the employer noting that he wasn't able to maintain his normal workflow. He had, he approached Darren Berger and asked him if anything was wrong. Did he was he sick? Was there anything that was happening in the family? You know, just making sure everything was good. And dear old Woody was bubbling with anticipation. He even says himself, and his, and even says himself, so himself in his book

that he was just itching to tell somebody that there was too much on his mind and it was just he needed to tell someone. And so when his employer asked, almost without prompting, he just started regaling the tale of what happened last night, everything from the ship landing to the telepathic conversation to the questions being asked. And initially the employer laughed at him at first, but soon realized that if he didn't believe him, at the very least, would he seem to be being very earnest about the story? God bless that man. Like honestly God bless that man. Yeah, like he was just, he dealt with it. And at 10 a.m. that morning, a man by the name of Glenn Wilson, a producer from WTAP TV in Parker'sburg, West Virginia, came to the store

where he was working and asked him if he would be willing to tell the story to the public. Without giving much thought to the publicity that would follow in that interview, what do you agree? Instantaneously, he would go on the air and he just felt like he had to tell people that this was happening, that these people from another planet had visited Earth, that this might be going on everywhere. Like he just, he felt like he had to tell people. And so at 2.30 p.m. on November 3rd, he did go to the TV station.

It was met by the station personnel, as well as Larry Murphy from Parker's Burg news, Sergeant Plum from the city police, Sergeant Vandeviner. Oh God, Vandeviner. What? Vandeviner. Vandeviner.

Vandeviner. There we go. Vandeviner. That's a hell of a name. Van Wilder. Yeah, Van Wilder. I'll type it for you so you know, it's Vandeviner that right there.

Vandeviner. Okay, yeah, Vandeviner. Vandeviner. Vandeviner. that right there. Van Deviner. Okay, yeah, Van Deviner. Van Deviner. Van Deviner. Yeah, whatever. He was a sergeant from the state police and a reporter from Parker's Berg Sentinel and Air Force Sergeant and several other people

that he did not know, recognize, or even understand why they were there. And from 2.30 till 6 p.m., they all questioned the shit out of him. He explained everything just as it happened in complete detail and then each man in turn would ask, would start questioning him. So they all just went around the room and they all got their turn. During this day of November 3rd reports of seeing the same ship on the night before were

coming into the city and state police as well as the radio and TV stations. So the first question he had is why are they so interested, but he learned through this questioning that other people last night reported seeing the exact same thing. Not a conversation with a man, but a similar looking ship that was zipping across the highways and heading for Parker's Brook. One family in particular, Mrs. Frank Huggins and her son Frank, daughter Susan, had stopped their car and watched the ship very shortly after he'd left the spot where the ship had stopped me. So after the ship took off within a few minutes, another

family actually saw it zip past them, a woman and her two kids. They say they watched it for approximately five minutes until it left going toward the city of parkersburg and then another boy Driving on the same highway had the shocking experience of having the ship hover over his car in China brilliant white light over it Way more akin to like a normal, I don't want to call it abduction scenario because that doesn't always happen But remember we watched an x-files where his car got shuttered down and a light beam down on it and stuff. Yeah, yeah. That kind of thing happened, but he has no missing time. The light kind of just shipped, kind of fired down its light and then ended up just zipping off on the highway beyond that.

And after that happened, he took off super quickly and immediately reported it to the police. And then two truck drivers were stopped on the same highway by the same ship on the same night, but refused to give their names for publication, although they did report it to police. So there are police reports about it, but they refuse to give their names publicly. So it's not, it's not like a hoax, basically. At least people saw stuff at the very least. Like, who knows if injured cold did actually step out and the further stories that we'll get into actually did happen, but there are police reports of the same night of people seeing something in the sky flying towards the city. And these are reports that were given night of night of.

Night of. Mm-hmm. Okay. That he's learning of the next day through these questionings with the... Understood. Yeah, yeah. I'm trying to figure out if it was like they question them and then suddenly a bunch of reports, you know what I mean, but if they're night of all good. Those two men also passed their story along anonymously to John Keel, the obvious the

New York author who wrote Mothman prophecies and so on. He's involved in this in some fashion. He's much more of a paranormal, like UFO Hunter kind of guy, interested in the weird stuff. So he kind of gets roped into this because again, he was making his way to town to meet a woman with a cat with wings that didn't have wings.

And now he's kind of just here. Dude, that is, where's Neve at, dude? We need Neve. Who's Neve? Neve is the catfish guy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, yeah. I don't know that show well enough, but I know exactly

I've never known him. Yeah, yeah, let's see that. I've seen a couple episodes of that show. He's the Aston of catfish, bro. You know, that's an excellent. The caston. He's the cat wings of catfish, bro. Yeah. At 630 rolled around, he eventually was able to leave the TV station. He's gonna keep going. I just don't know where to go with that. That is just so funny to me that he's like, this girl was like, I have a cat with wings and he was like, really? And then she got there and she was like, I gave it to a boy because his wings fell off, sorry. Yeah, yeah.

Like, oh, it's like, you know that guy fell. Can you imagine being him? You're like, how many times do you think this happened to John Keel? Why, he's like, why did I let myself believe? Again. He goes back to that very ex-files office just like piles of tapes and a bat closet which is a poster that says I want to believe. That fits for John Keel.

But yeah, he left the TV station at 630 and went directly home where he was met by several friends as well as a large crowd of people that he had never seen before. They all wanted me to tell, wanted him to tell a story again. And they met, and he met with several people where they had seen the ship sometime after 8 p.m. people who didn't report it to the police also now saying like, oh, I saw the ship, or I saw the ship, everybody in all these people outside of his home.

Keep in mind, he went on a public TV station, gave an interview in a kind of small town. It did not take long for people to figure out who he was and where he lived. And it starting on this night, every night people would show up, park outside of his house, sometimes talk to him, most of the time just to sit and watch the skies and wait and wait. And just wait to see how bad it fucking gets. Yeah, he met some people that would tell about seeing the ship after 8 p.m. in the night of the incident.

And he had people literally staying there talking to him until 2.30 in the morning when he had to ask them to leave because he had worked the next day. He's like, can you guys please just go home? I have to go to bed, like Jesus Christ. Just look at my hot McConaughey like, all right, all right, all right. This is all within 24 hours.

Like the event happens 24 hours. He had a public look. He reported to the local authorities. So in your rational mind, you're like, definitely, whatever this is, something seems to have occurred between a bunch of strangers

that they all say happened. What more curiously for me is, he does report it to the local authorities as, you know, Indra Cold asked him to and it ended up getting attention of any names people, sergeants from the state police, Air Force people, local, local politics people, local police force, like this little report ended up bringing in a lot of people to question him and it's kind of bizarre if it's not real or something didn't happen.

Why people from like the Air Force and shit showed up. I can maybe understand state and local police showing up, especially if they all got reports that night, but I understand why they made the Air Force showed up and like local reporters showed up and like more bigger names and eventually NASA, and he drops names, he drops names. He's not just like, and then NASA showed up,

he's like, no, city police, sergeant, Vandevinder, and all this stuff, like everybody's being named. So clearly something, at least, was being reported to the point where some attention was being paid to it on some level. It doesn't mean maybe it wasn't like, okay, maybe it was a plane, right? Maybe it was a test pilot plane or air force something.

Sorry, go ahead, Jesse. No, no, so what you're saying is that at least on a base level, all these organizations showed up. The reasoning behind it, Jesse. No, no. So, so what you're saying is that at least on a base level, all these organizations showed up. The reasoning behind it, we don't quite know. Could it be that they were like, oh, we caught something on radar and that was weird or could be there a lot of reports that people saw something. So just send a guy to go check it out. Pretty much. Just kind of how it seems like it was enough of a stink bird and at least send somebody to take a look at it. But that's until as he was talking to strangers till 2.30 in the morning when he eventually

went to bed, he woke up the next day because like you know, you're normal every guy, he had to go to work. He had to pay the goddamn bills. He had to make sure he got to work the next day. Do you think, Andrew knew this? Do you think they have work where he's from? They do have work where he's from, but he did. Remember, in the initial thing, he asked him, do you think they have work where he's from? They do have work where he's from, but he did, and the initial thing,

he asked him, do you work? And when he said yes, he goes, I too have a job, I'm a seeker. Like he, he, he, Right, but like, is it one of those things like Star Trek where, you know, they have a job, but like everyone's taking care of, so like they do for a long time. I've got a job, I got a job, man, I'm a seeker.

Yeah, like, yeah, I'm a seeker, dude. I go out on the road, not find people like you, and I see, you know, I'm telling them. I. I go out on the road, not find people like you, and I see just, you know, I'm telling them more, like on the dot, if I tried. Like when we get to the land you lose lifestyle, and there's a, we know this, the lifestyle. Oh baby, do you know this? I can tell you what it's like to live on land you lose,

what people do on land you lose. That's incredible. That's gonna be part two, it's the land you lose, like details, so to speak. So on November 4th, he went to work, like he always did. However, November 4th was going to be another interesting and bizarre day for Gerald Woody. As it was on his way home from Pomeroy, Ohio, with a friend of his, by the way, in the car of which he gives no name, they were traveling south on Highway 7 toward Parker's Burke again when a slight tingling

sensation began around his forehead, like I explained earlier. Very quickly, he knew it was injured cold because he had had this familiar feeling prior, or the last time he had that telepathic conversation. And so, in the moment, he said that what he said, he just didn't want to receive him. Though he ignored him, that tingling sensation never went away. He goes, I didn't want to talk to him, but the feeling kind of just-

Oh, no, dude. Literally, I don't like that. But the feeling feels gross to me. Can you imagine just like a wee- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hello, hello, answer, please, hello, hello. So he gave in and finally what he calls answered him. He like let the thoughts in.

The gentleman that was riding with him knew that was something was wrong as he later told Woody that he also had some weird feeling in his face, but didn't know what it was. So like there was no active allowing him in. The thing that you'll learn and we'll talk about more in part two is that telepathy has to be fully consensual between both sides. Like for it to happenpathy has to be fully consensual between both sides.

Like for it to happen, it has to be an act of nice trust and consensual, which for me, of course, I'm like, well, what does that say about the grays who try to have telepathic contact and it's always broken and weird? Maybe they're trying to force telepathic contact and that's why the messages are always so fucking broken and bizarre because it's not consensual,

they're just trying to like ram their way into your head and be like, I'm gonna give you a message, listen. With Indra, he made it very, like from moment one, he like, you wanna talk with our lips with our brains? Like, hey, I just have some questions. I'm just a dude. Dude, he's just like, he's like the woke version dude. He's just, he understands the power of consent.

Yeah, exactly. He gets it. Third eye is wide open. So his friend obviously didn't allow injured cold to contact him because he had no idea what the fuck was going on, but cold was telling Woody that he needed to slow down and drive very carefully. That his ship was directly over the truck and they were following him from a distance where he couldn't be seen.

So like he was around. He was just how have run and follow him around, I guess. And how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how Carefully hey drive carefully. Can you please just drive carefully please just drive carefully? Are you sure?

Andrew isn't my father. I mean, you know, it's gonna say. I guess it's gonna drive care. It sounds like when you got somebody in your, it was related to you and your parents. Dad, every time I go stop at a red light, he holds onto the car like I'm in a slam into everything. My mom, my mom always grabs the fucking, she always grabs the fucking like, yeah. The old shit, and the old shit.

Yeah. Yeah. She's like passive aggressively signaling that she thinks she's gonna die and I'm like you serious? Try for 20 years. As a second contact and it's had it's happening, what he tries to explain what it feels like. He tries to put into words how this telepathic communication feels. He says it's not pain, but as though he was hearing his own voice with his words. He said it's very hard to explain because previous to this, he knew nothing of mental telepathy. This is all very new to him. So he kind of

is like, it's just more of a forming and bubbling in his mind out of his control that he understands to be injured, I guess. It sounds like it sounds like his inner monologue is getting hijacked by an external source. So it sounds like he's talking to himself and his brain. Yeah, it is. And it kind of fits with injured cold, I guess. At this point, it's not really questions that are happening anymore,

but instead injured cold is info dumping as to where he comes from. Right. He's like, I don't know what the exacts of the conversation because he doesn't give the exacts like back and forth of the conversation, but he learns that cold is from a planet called Lannulose, much like before, said it was located close to the galaxy of Ganymede, although Woody then came to kind of believe that Mr. Cold gave the wrong location for their own safety.

And he believes that because Ganymede is like a moon around Saturn, I believe. And he thinks that maybe Cold was just kind of like lying a little bit. Yeah, about where he came from for his own. Hey, man, I know I said I came from Lanylose, but I'm actually from the solar system. And I'm sorry, I led you on, man. Still Lanylose, the planet is still called Lanylose. It's just like where it's at. He's not entirely sure.

It's like Brigadune, he kind of just, he doesn't want anybody to know quite exactly where it is. Yeah, right. He continues to explain that Lannulose, much like Earth, is kind of the same as ours, on almost every way. They have woods, fields, streams, and even oceans as Earth does.

He also continued to say that they had taken, that entered cold, that actually taken samples of our own vegetation, even that of some animals. And with very few exceptions, these were the same as what they had. So they're like Earth. Like what?

It's kind of like Earth. And the animals are kind of the same. No, I don't know if he, no, so here's the thing. I don't know if he meant like, we have cows or that, it's like genetically kind of similar carbon-based life form like DNA.

I was gonna say like on a level, everything is taste like chicken vibe where it's kind of like, I think it's cloning it down. It's literally like calf. It's literally like the same as how Star Wars does it. Yeah, with the rank or sauce. Yeah. But I think that's it. Like, with, with rank or sauce. Yeah.

But I think that's it. Like, it's like, all life is kind of from a similar, at least from where he's from. It's very similar. So while they might not have cows, they might have something that tastes similar to cow or an animal that might be kind of like a cow. I don't fully know.

I'm just kind of just makes sense. It just makes it. Okay. Yeah. Just makes sense exactly. He also kind of put forward that, hey, injured cold was also married. He had two sons, eight and 11 years old, and that his wife's name was Kimmy, pay IMI.

So they have the concept of marriage and wives and all of that. Yes, but when we go again, when we get to part two, there's some stark differences between earth civilization and landy and low civilization. I would hope so. And then since the previous time that he spoken with or the previous time from, I guess like a year back or so,

he also had a new daughter, a new child, a baby girl had been born to them, and her name was Kimmelis. How are they born, did he say? I would assume he are like very human-like from what I understand of their anatomy from further in the book. So they're humans but from space.

They really do, they look a lot like humans. There's just a difference in like, I guess like there. Well, I don't want to spoil it too much because it's really all about their so society and like how they live their lives. It's very interesting. Yeah, and he also goes on to say like Mr, Mr. Cold continued to say that their time wasn't exactly like theirs.

They don't have four seasons. They only have three planting, harvesting, and cold. Those are their three seasons. So I guess it's pretty like old-timey farmer-esque in a way if they just have planting, harvesting, and cold season. And in their three seasons, their life spans are a little longer than ours. The life expectancy of somebody from Lannulose

is anywhere between 125 to 175 of our earth years as we understand it. So they live a little longer than we do by a few days. Kind of a Bible vibe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Anunnaki, bro. Oh, yeah, bro. And as the concessions, I mean, I'm, bro. And as the conversation's going on,

I mean, I'm not going to be right. You want to be a whole ass fucking one day. I love to talk about that shit. But not today. Today is just injured cold day. But as the conversation kind of came to a close, he gave a forewarning saying that, hey, when I end this telepathic communication,

you're going to feel like a bit of a shock. So just be ready. It's not going to be painful. It's going to be kind of like a sudden feeling. And while he was listening super intently to every word you said, he had begun to think questions to ask him when he told me he was leaving. So just as Woodrow was leaving, rather just as Woodrow was asking questions, Indra's like, gotta go. See you later. Have a good time. Got it. I ain't answering any of that. And he broke contact in that small little.

It's like you made it weird, man. Come on, I gotta go. Yeah, you made it a little weird. No, that's too far. And while there was a bit of a, you don't know me like that, brother. A small shock to that, when it broke contact, it also left a slight throbbing pain in his right temple, which dissipated within a few minutes. But it left like a little bit

of a weird little headache, I suppose. And at that moment, obviously, he decided, I'm not going to tell anybody this, but I did, but he did reveal this to the NICAP at the next meeting they had with him. The NICAP, he, I forget what that stands for. I didn't write it on my script. NICAP. National Institute National Investigation Committee on Aerial Phenomena. That's what it is.

The, the, that ended in, so one of the, it was, I think it was the pre-blue book, project blue book. This was between 1957 and 1969. The NICAP, the National Investigation Committee on Aerial Phenomena, he reported to them. So these people are also involved in this story, that these, this federal basically pre-project blue book group of, of, of officers, I guess, were reaching out to him. And he did, like I said, he did pass that along. After his televised interview, his story was getting picked up by local news media,

as well as UPI and API, which spread his story all over the fucking world. His telephone began ringing constantly and they were not even able to have a peaceful meal anymore. All of this just 48 hours after the incident. Think about that. One day you're just a normal dude heading to work. The next day your street is filled with cars, your phone rings day and night.

Everybody wants you to tell the story or ask you questions about the story. You have government people reaching out, you have government like Ariel, phenomena people reaching out. Your life of peace is gone when you were just a small town dude. Well, the problem is I'm not a small town dude. Nobody's going to fucking come get me because I'm going to hop on a month of zone. I'm not a small town dude nobody's gonna fucking come get me because I'm gonna hop on a microphone I'm not a small town dude. You're literally from The smallest microphone now. They're in a microphone now. It's too late like they know I'm gonna grab it into the microphone the instant I have an opportunity to do right right and that's why they didn't do it before because they knew you'd get to this point

Yeah, they're they know how credible we are I was a kid I wasn't thinking about aliens. I was thinking about power ranger powers. So like I was just, I was fair. I want some of those. I wasn't even in the same ballpark at that time. Wait a minute. Whoa, I mean, to be fair, the rangers, the Zio crystal

or whatever that thing is called, that's an alien crystal. That's true. I mean, yeah, that's alien power. Yeah, and Rita Rapulsa was like on the moon. She got sealed up on the moon. Which is literally moon men. Yeah, that's real. She was in a dumpster on the moon. Yeah, that Rita Rapulsa was like on the moon. She got sealed up on the moon. Which is literally moon, man. Yeah, that's real. She was in a dumpster on the moon.

Yeah, that's true. All right, well, you know, maybe I was always in aliens. I'm gonna get to sign. Maybe I am like injured cold's offspring. I just don't know it. That's a great thing to walk within your heart, honestly. Just, you know what, nobody, nobody look into that. Well, as the phone was ringing,

they were getting calls from Washington, New York, California, Texas, letters from all over the world. People were coming from all over to their house to watch for ships. They would even come as early as 5 p.m. Eat their dinner in sandwiches, into the car, and have coffee in their cars, and sit for hours watching the sky. Like, what else are you going to do? I guess so. Like in 1966, what else has happened in after work? What else you got going on? And as much of the sales work was done in the evenings, his wife and children were left alone almost every evening. Marjorie was, which is what his wife's name was quite frightened of the

ships, but was more upset and frightened by the crowds of people that ended up gathering in the yard. And every night, there would be as many as 25 to 30 strangers come to their door after he would come home from work, which would sometimes be super fucking late at night. They tried to be patient with them, even inviting them into the house to talk with them while the wife made coffee by the gallons and made cookies endlessly while talking to them

till sometimes three or four in the morning. And this is what I say when EFOs can ruin people's lives, this is what I mean. Like this man didn't ask for any of this. They needed to have podcasts at this time and this guy would have been okay. And even when I'm to admit that he, they let this get wildly out of hand,

that turning no one away, that was actually interested in the story until one night, uh, when, uh, when he came home from work super late, there were so many cars parked on the road as far as you could possibly see and in their yard that was fully parked for the cars that he had to call the police to get them to clear out the yard. And they estimated that there were about 150 people in the street and in his yard just clogging it up. And the police did come to clear the people out, but most of them when the cops were gone, fucking came back. Like when

the cops were like, all right, get away, get away. And everybody's clear and the cops left, people then filled up the blank spots again until the usual three or four in the morning. And this went on for a few months, like this wasn't just a day or a week. This went on forever. And that the stress passed on to his family. His son, who was seven years old, was getting bullied relentlessly at school. The children called his daddy a liar. Alien boy, alien boy, a lion boy alien boy Alien boy They were calling his kid a liar and bullying him so bad that the wife went in to talk to the schools and teacher to get them to do something

Which did help slightly But he became the kid became so nervous as did their daughter Tanya who was four years old at the time They wouldn't even go to bed because they were so afraid of all the voices they could hear outside. Elliott Boy. Lannula, so why don't you go back to Lannula? I can see it, dude. You're typical 19, what else are the kids going to do? And this eventually led to both the kids having nightmares and screaming during the

night. They were like eventually led to like night terrors. They were being relentlessly bothered. And being a salesman on commission, this is, I felt so bad for Woodrow for this. Because he was a salesman on commission, his work slowed down to a standstill. He was recognized everywhere he went.

And people would call him pretending to be interested in buying his merchandise to the point where he would drive as far as 40 miles or more to make a sale only to get there for the people to want to see and talk to him about UFOs and actually having no interest in buying anything, wasting his entire time, gas money, and all of that. Like, he couldn't sell shit. People were just using it as excuse to get him as like a personal guest in their house

so they could fucking talk to him. And so his finances depleted. They eventually had to break into their savings, which ended up being depleted. And after they dwindled down to nothing, they had no choice but to move. They sold most of their furniture and moved into a summer cabin that belonged to the wife's family, thankfully. And they did manage to hide from the public for about a month. After about a month, it started up all over again.

Their home was now in the banks of a little of the little Kenawa river, and the crowds found them when several UFOs were cited over the river directly behind their house. So the way their house was found is because the people were seeing UFOs in the woods near where they were living, they would come out to investigate or check it out and they stumbled across their home and found out who was living there and that word spread and all of a sudden their home was being fucking overrun again. The parkersburg papers carried the story of the sighting and people started coming there and found out where people lived.

So basically the story of UFOs made it to the paper first, which then led people to the woods where their summer cabin was and then they discovered that that's where they had moved. So it's kind of weird that that's how they end up being found, but like it's, it just kind of happened that way. The story circulated around that the ships were coming to see him and that they got, really got the crowds coming out. They got so bad that it was actually impossible, it became impossible for him to leave his house to go make sales. It was so fucking clogged up, which is heinous.

So they moved again to Vienna, West Virginia, right in the middle of town, almost kind of like hide-and-plane sight situation. He said that they kind of felt safe there, until that they were visited by a TV crew from Germany who wanted to make a TV documentary about their experience. They talked to several people who backed up the story with their eyewitness reports of seeing the spaceships while visiting with me, and after this, they moved again because the TV station fucking brought attention to them. This time, they moved to Cleveland, in the heart of town, where the time of, where, this

is where he ended up writing this book, and he was virtually left unknown, except for a very few close friends that knew where he lived and where he was. So he actually found peace, but he had to move four fucking times to find the peace and he moved to Cleveland where people basically I imagine just didn't give a shit. I don't know Cleveland at all, so. Cleveland rocks, dude. I know that because- I would go there.

I think it's nice. Is that weird to say? I've never been. I've never been to Cleveland. I like the Midwest. I don't know. I mean, the only say? I've never been. I've never been to Cleveland. I like the Midwest. I don't know. I mean, the only Midwest place I've been is like Indianapolis.

I've been to Cincinnati. That's basically the same as Cleveland, right, Jesse? Um, no. Pretty much exactly the same place, right? If you've been to one place, you've been to them all? Mm. No. The reds are the browns, right?

I mean, yeah, you know what go to Ohio say that Give it give it like the reds are the bros bangles the browser roughly the same thing as a Steelers fan I agree they're both trash. So yeah To give you an idea to these four moves all took place in about a month and a half. This wasn't a long period of time. It was between November 4th and a little bit after Christmas, like a little bit before Christmas, rather, where these four different moves happened. And eventually Christmas came and went.

And shortly after Christmas, he began getting visitors again, but not by the local, like local people eager to get a story. Instead, he started getting visited from people of note, Captain Bruce Parsons of Coco Beach, Florida, police department, formally the chief police, uh, police chief of Parker'sburg, who said he was also a security guard for national aeronautical space agency. He, uh, who listened to his story and then invited him and his family to go visit Coco Beach and tell that story to the head of NASA. So he's getting invited out to Florida to tell these people the story.

At this time, they were being, that's crazy. At the time, they were being visited nearly every night by so many people that were, that they were glad to go away for a while for a rest and vacation. People started visiting his house again. Though because he was in a city, it was harder to clog up a street, but they went, they said, fuck this. Let's get out. Let's go to Florida and like, let's just get away from the shit.

I just, I understand that wholeheartedly. So for one week, they went out to Coco Beach and were escorted on a tour of the, of the complete Cape Kennedy base while they were there. So we on a tour of the, of the complete Cape Kennedy base while they were there. So we got a tour of Cape Kennedy while there was a time during that time. He told the story to a man who was introduced to him simply as Charlie, the headman of NASA. He was interrogated every night for five days. And after listening to his story several times, he was told that he had told them that he

had told them nothing that they did not know already. So for five nights, he was interviewed by people at the air base in NASA, and when he told the story to everybody, basically they're like, all right, you're not telling us anything new. So you can get on out of here, which is so weird. A strange thing to say to anyone though.

Right, like he's like, that, hey, you're not telling us anything we don't already know. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know if that's like weird or not, you know what I mean? Like I have no idea. This is like valiant Thor. This is like valiant Thor where I'm like, really? We actually have like police documents of like people reporting sightings at the least. Valiant Thor, we have a picture of Congress and somebody being like, that's him right there. That's Valiant Thor, just a man sitting in a chair. So after he said that they told them basically, they told them, he told them nothing he didn't

know already. At that point, Woody kind of like became sure to himself anyway that clearly they must have known what planet he was talking about. Clearly they must know about Lannulose already and must know about all these other people and that this is just extra information that they are gathering for whatever purpose. And several other people had told them of the same kind of experience that he had and he asked them why they would not release this to the public. And he was told that if he did or if they did release it, it would cause. And this is going to sound familiar to our recent conversations about disclosure. If they did release this information to the public, they told him it would cause panic.

Women would commit suicide, throw babies out of windows, jump under trains, and more, and that this kind of panic could sweep across not just the United States, but the entire world. Of course, Woody did not agree with them at all, and he still doesn't, he claimed by the time of the writing of this book. And what their reasons were for covering up their investigations, he had no idea, nor could he think of any logical or valid reason for doing so. But of course, if this is all true, and there's a million reasons they could put out, like

they're not telling him about what actually went down. Several weeks that he'd been there, a Mr. Harold Skin of Space Age Communications Incorporated tried to confirm that he had a visit with Bruce Parsons. Rather tried to confirm they had a visit there at Coco Beach with a man by the name of Bruce Parsons and what he told him, but they would only tell this guy that he was that yes, he was there, but gave him no details. So there was like an external attempt to verify these things by again, by a man by the name of Mr. Harold Salkin of the space age communications incorporated.

And when he did reach out to the government, they were like, yes, he was here, but we're not giving you any details. And that's where they left it. Yeah, very bizarre. Are these confirmed like, yeah, we know he reached out to the government. And I mean, yeah, you can, like again,

with all these things, these people did exist. We have their names, but we have no paperwork other than the police reports that we can easily attain. These, the government did not release anything to the public regarding this at all. We just know that these names were involved and we can confirm that these names were, were interested in his, uh, in his story, which is like Betty and Barney Hill. They had a very similar kind of experience with the government where they brought Barney in and they questioned him for like a week straight, if you remember.

Definitely, definitely legitimizes it in someone. Yeah, so the Hill's had a very similar experience with the government. I'm not saying it makes it true, but it definitely legitimizes it. It means probably that the government has something else that they're working off of that they're maybe trying to compare it to or something. You know what I mean? Some reason why they're interested. And then at that point, he was then again,

sent a questionnaire in the mail from the Air Force. What? Meanwhile, a questionnaire. And I see a P once again, the National Investigations Committee on Aerophone and Omnog also began investigating his story separately, sending a team of subcommittee people from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania consisting of consisting of six men under the supervision of a Mr. William Whitesal and a Mr. Kevin D of Belprey, Ohio.

They questioned dozens of people who told them of us of seeing a very similar ship that he had seen on the same night in the same general location, yet they made no release of the story for several months and then when they did release it, they played it down as much as possible. And I took special note of this in particular because this sounds like the videos that were released in 2017 that they refused to acknowledge for a couple of weeks and then when they did acknowledge it, it was very quietly and downplayed like fucking crazy. And this is also something that did happen. They did question him, he did give him this information.

At least we believe him, he gave that information, but they made no public report. When the questionnaire came in from the Air Force, he filled it out and then never heard from the Air Force again. He talked to and then never heard from the Air Force again. He talked to several other people who got the same treatment from NASA, NICAP, and the Air Force, the people that they were questioning as well to, you know, about the sightings they'd seen. And all of them say they were thoroughly investigated and then dropped. NICAP even hired Dr. On who's on who's orders?

Exactly. Yeah. But why would he know that he's a civilian? I mean, how do we know that it was dropped? Well, he's saying they were never reached out to again. Like they just, they got the questionnaire, he sent it back and then it was just ghost town. He never heard from them again.

And same with everybody else who answered the questions. They went through the investigation and when the investigation was done, they heard nothing. Nothing. So you don't mean, so you don't mean that we know when the investigation was done, they heard nothing. Nothing. So you don't mean that we know that the program was closed? I just know for a fact that the program didn't close. Well, I just mean like we know that the investigation of that specific event closed for some reason.

We just know that they got more. We assumed that the NICAP did what Blue Book would be doing a few years later, or prior to it, rather, whenever that was, which is they probably wrote it down somewhere and marked it and then left it alone afterward. And then did nothing with it because it, you know, we didn't really get heavy, heavy UAP UFO research until post a blue book post this in more modern-ish day A-tip, I would say, as the first maybe program that we could point to to say maybe they were trying a little bit. But yeah, so basically, when I say dropped, it means they just never reached out to again.

They did all this stuff. They he gave over in the information and then was completely ignored. And I see a P even hired a man by the name of Dr. Jenkins, a well-known local psychiatrist to examine him to see if his brain had ever been damaged or if he'd some ever suffered from epilepsy. They gave him, they gave him, they gave him an EEG test. Yet though when those results came back from the clinic, they were negative proving that

he was perfectly sane and sound at least when it comes to physical damage to his brain. They refused to release the test results of the public, however. And one of the NICAP members even told him not to talk to anyone except NICAP, but he then told him, I would talk to whom I pleased, when I, when he pleased, and they were super angry about that response and then never spoke to him again. So he was like, the NICAP was like, only us, only talked to us and he was like, go fuck yourselves and so they were like, that's not how we wanted to work. This is like another, this is like the other Chaluminati bingo card is like the disappointing

like, now, fizzle out of a UFO side of being a car. It all just goes the same same exact thing. It becomes like someone gets obsessed. Someone like their life falls apart. I don't know. It's just it's so sad that this is how it always ends because it. It really does feel sometimes like I'm going crazy.

Like it really does feel like like I'm going crazy like it really does feel like There's somebody's hand the fucking dude in the x-files like He haven't really met him yet, but I mean you've seen him, but you you haven't met you cigarette man Yeah, like it's such a perfect like It's such a perfect like Metaphor for like what yeah of what the feeling is behind all the shit that makes people go so pretty. He's got to, so out there.

Imagine, like, this is winning. I know. He's not rich. He lost four houses. He's had to move multiple times, sell his furniture, run his money, dry. Like this has literally destroyed his life in like two months. And would you trade the show? Would you trade the show to be this man?

To know. Yeah. You said yes, so quickly. It means there's so much more to our planet than just fucking. But then if you came back to the like we could never have you back on the show and you would have the answer. No, no, no, no. Question.

All right, let me let me. Well, you just want to be on the streets holding up the end is nice. Let me ask you a real question. Like this is the real one. You are told by Nor Norgborg the alien. Mathis, oh, man, I will tell you and show you the secrets of the universe. I will let you know that you're not alone and I'll give you your place in all of it. Okay. But you can tell no one ever. And if you attempt to tell anyone, the

words will not leave your mouth. You will not be able to write them down. You can never share anything. Only you will know what you do it. Yep. Doesn't have to think about it. It doesn't even have to think about it, bro. Wouldn't you? It doesn't even think about it, bro. Like if that same offer was laid at your feet. Wouldn't it drive you crazy that you had all the answers and you couldn't choose?

Yes, oh, I would absolutely lose my mind. I would go insane. But, man, I would feel... Sated. Okay. I would be like, I would never have to have sex again. Well, that mean that's a direction to take care of. Oh, yeah.

There you go. You heard it here first. There you go. You've heard it here first. Actually, not the first time you've heard this here. It won't be the last time. It's the real last time you heard either. I promise you that.

Yeah. You haven't heard this here first or last. And there's a lot. Like, he eventually goes and speaks with like, Harold from the NISCAP gives a story and stuff. At one trip from New NISCAP, gives us story and stuff. At one trip from New York to Washington, DC, they saw what this UFO bright lights in the sky following them.

He actually reported to the Air Force, reported it to several newspapers, and the Air Force actually got back to him saying, it was just a Russian satellite breaking up in the sky. Don't worry about it. And all Woody says about that is he simply goes, what? That is the stupidest explanation he heard. It followed them for a hundred miles along the highway and was still going strong when they passed through New York City. So he's like, that sounds insane. That makes no goddamn sense. You're lying to me. So at this point, I feel like Woody's like

already lost whole trust in the government at this point, but he's still reporting it to them. He's doing the best he can to like actually carry this on as the best he possibly can do while still maintaining contact with the government and trying to keep, I guess you would call it like a respectable attempt at reporting these things and like trying to not go into the land of crazy town. He's not going to any conventions. He's not going to any like book signings. The only, When he writes this book, only six copies end up being printed when it ends up happening.

He's not making a lot of anything off of this. It's definitely not a plan. Right, exactly. It's definitely just wild. And so time would pass. And he would continue to have these weird questions of people would ask him like from governments and stuff. But eventually, and all this time, injured is not where to be seen.

He came those first 48 hours and then he kind of disappears for a couple of months or so, but it wouldn't be the last time that injured cold showed up. While he was still living in mineral wells, for instance, he came home very late from work in one night and it was super cold out and the usual crowd of watchers had already left. He parked his truck by the side of the house and as soon as he opened the door of his truck, he heard injured cold say, don't be frightened, Woody. It is it is injured. And my friend Carl. What? He brought a buddy. He brings a car. Carl K. A. R. L. Carl. Just another like Kimmy. Just another one that's another guy. So he out of his truck from work, went inside to find that they were kind of just

waiting on the back porch for him at that point. You know, they were already there just hanging out. He invited him into the home, but they refused saying they didn't want to awaken his family or frighten them, very considerate of, of Andrew Colton, Carl. And though it was super cold out, they went and sat on the back porch and talked for two hours. It was like, all of buddy is visiting and surprising you with a, like, a beer in hand, being like, grab a seat. Friend of the show, Andrew Cole.

Yeah. Come on on. It's like my ex-girlfriend's dad, there used to be a Jehovah's Witness priest that would like, or like preacher or somebody that would come by the front door, or like once a year to sell him, like a bible or something like that. And he would like invite him in like a debate him for like a couple hours and pour him a drink. And it became like a thing that they did every year. Same vibe.

Fascinating though. I could find that being very enjoyable. Cause I imagine it wasn't like an angry debate. It was just a very interesting debate consistently. Regardless, they chatted outside on their back porch in the cold weather for a couple of hours. And it's here that we actually learn even more about Lannulose itself. Here, we learn that the, that he tells Woody that on their world of Lannulose,

there's never been any kind of war in their world, and that they didn't even understand the word hate. Hate doesn't exist. They don't understand it at all. They are taught from childhood that all people are brothers and sisters and it doesn't matter where they're from, who they are or what color they might be. Now, I'm about to say something, but you're going to give me a chance to explain it because it's not maybe what you think it is. All right, I'm going to let you say it, but I disavow anything that might come out of your mouth in advance.

No, no, no, no, no, it's fine. He goes on to explain that everybody on land you lose, every creation beyond land, land No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no as we'll see with Andrew Cold, when he explains what their concept of God is, it's not really the Christian God, though Woody does his best to make it the Christian God, if that makes sense. It's almost like he's trying to rationalize what they term as God with what his idea of God is on his planet under the terms of Christianity, which he grew up. They believe there's only one God who's the creator of all worlds in life. They believe that God loves one as much as the other, and that God's love, there's no discrimination.

You know, stuff that we've heard plenty of times. They truly live in the belief that everyone is equal. They believe man's sole purpose on any world is to serve God and to help one another. There's only one that denomination of faith on their planet, and they simply call themselves God's children. Indra told them that they were not superior to our own intelligence here on this earth, only in the sense that they have learned to serve God and to live longer with love and understanding, and that their spaceflight was simply due to a longer study of space research.

They just been around longer. They just put time into it. Yeah, They just been around longer. They just put time into it. Yeah, they just been around longer. They spent more time doing it. Great. They spent hundreds of years according to Indra Cold conquering gravity in the knowledge of bending distance and space. Now that I also pulled is interesting because he uses the word, obviously gravity, but the knowledge of bending distance and space.

I think we haven't really verified until very recently, but the knowledge of bending distance in space, a thing we have under verified until very recently, but this book was written in 1967. And it kind of squares with what we've been saying about weird like what Grush was saying about the propulsion of those craft. Right. At that point, cold cold is more interested in hearing of Woody's way of life. So he tells him of their way of life. And it seems so much more complicated than theirs when he begins to way of life. So he tells him of their way of life. And it seems so much more complicated

than theirs when he begins to speak of it. Woody told him of their different religious beliefs, which baffled him completely. He couldn't, and he did his best to explain it to them, and he just couldn't. He couldn't make it make sense to them. And he realized that the end of his explanation, Woody sat baffled too. He doesn't understand why everybody is so separated because of these beliefs. And when he finished telling him of all their different beliefs and unbelievers, he was really mixed up about it. He said, quote, I'm not a Superman. Indra said, I can understand why you can't understand our religion. Woody would then reply. Yeah, so Indra was just like, I'm not a Superman. I don't understand all this stuff.

Like it's a song from like that. It's like a song from like the mid 2000s that's the that's the theme song for uh scrubs three doors down I'm no Superman woo exactly what it is yeah so when he tried what he couldn't really tell him why they have wars why they couldn't get along with their neighbors let alone try to explain why we can't live why we as as a human species can't live in peace with different parts of our world thousands of miles away. So Woody became so confused trying to explain it all that he asked him to tell him why that we live in fear of hatred, why humans are so different.

And what he said in return was that it was the inability to communicate with each other. That words alone are not enough. That we have to show each other. We are concerned about one another. He said that if the people of our world had telepathy, that we could understand each other better. We've all had thoughts that we could not put into words or said something that was taken differently than what we, the way we meant it. And he's also said that everyone on this earth has the ability to use telepathy.

We've just never learned how to use it. We can learn it because it's easily taught in some of our people already have it. And even though he had been using telepathy, he still did not understand it completely. I mean, he, I mean, Woody. So he asked Andrew. What about buzz? I know. And so we asked Andrew to explain mean, Woody. So he asked Andrew. What about Buzz? I know. And so we asked Andrew to explain it to him.

I got that. You got that. Guys, Mathis has seen the Toy Story films. I know. Oh, like just the first three. I haven't seen the fourth one. That's, that's okay. I haven't seen that one either.

I think I've. So when he asked Andrew to explain how telepathy works, after Inter had explained it, he still didn't understand it, but it's still harder for him to put into words, but he tried. And so I'm going to read directly from the book what he tried to explain as telepathy. Quote, mental telepathy or thought transference, as they call it, is very simple. It is merely the ability to release your thoughts and to do this, you have to trust the person or persons you are talking to for you actually, for you actually to open your mind to let the other person look into it. You just think what you want them to know and the thoughts are transferred into the other person's mind.

Andrew told me that the impulses from a person's mind are stronger than any radio signal known, but you have to know how to direct them and control them. You also, as the receiver, have to know how to relax your mind and let the thought or words form in your own mind. It does sound hard to understand, but it does work for with them I can communicate as easily as I can speak English. I have met two people here on Earth that I have to a certain degree learn to receive their thoughts. You cannot force your thoughts on another person. They have to be released and flow out. You have to learn how to release and relax your mind,

and this is done by mind exercises, what I imagine is meditation. They have taught me how to do this. It was easy, and I learned to do it quickly. I believe everyone here on Earth could learn just as easily. End quote. To give you an idea of how this man also writes, it is very matter of fact sentence after sentence, a lot of repeated words. It's a pretty dry read if you grab this book, but it's a pretty quick one.

So that's like how we, that's how injured kind of explained how telepathy works. Almost like a freeing to let your thoughts kind of just happen and enter the eighth place. Free your mind! But like the person you're trying to think the thoughts do have to be open to them as well, and you have to like let the thoughts enter.

It doesn't make any goddamn sense. And Woodrow would he also said the same thing? He couldn't make no sense of it. But it worked with Indred because when Indred is a practiced man. It makes perfect sense to me, man. So no matter who you are, or what you are, no one can read your mind without your consent. That is kind of like the main

sticking point. Without the full cooperation of both parties, mental telepathy or thought transference is utterly impossible. You just can't do it without two people being willing. Nobody, including these people from space, can read your mind according to, without your help and consent according to Woody. If everyone here on Earth could use telepathy, it would be easy to see there would be complete understanding between everyone. This in itself would stop wars and hatred for once. You can learn to understand a person. You can learn to love them.

Transmitting your thoughts is easy once you know how. It's almost like daydreaming. Does anyone else see the, no, go ahead. Sorry, does anyone else see the faulty logic in this? Which part? A lot of human beings think something far different than what they say. And a lot of the time, if you were to like,

I don't know, hear a person's thoughts, talk with them, like, you know, I imagine that that wouldn't necessarily be great all the time. You might suss out all the meanos. If you guys. You know, if you guys. You know, if you guys.

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according to him, know because you can immediately sense and know deception when it's coming from your mind. Again, so just putting this out there, you're at home with your beautiful misses. And she's like, baby, just this made me look fat. What's your brain gonna do to you right there? You're gonna say, I would lock a slice of delicious gooseberry pie, and I'm gonna go to the kitchen

and get it right. He's an extremely human problem. Because none of that exists on Lanylose. None of this problem exists on Lanylose. Oh, so you're saying on Lanylose, everyone looks great no matter what they wear or they just don't care. There's no, yeah, there's no sexual hangups on Lanylose, okay?

There's no way to change. And Alex is kind of right, we'll get to this next week. Everybody, unless they're doing something formal is naked on Lanylose. I told you man, Lanylose is a little different, you know what I'm saying? They have no shame, this is the body they were given, this is what they have, so be it. And that's how it goes. I'll come a cat, I ain't, I know what I'm saying? They have no shame. This is the body they were given. This is what they have. So be it. And that's how it goes.

I'll come a caddy. How come a caddy ain't got an outfit on. Yeah. What the hell's that about? Yeah, exactly. Lanylose. Lanylose. You just friendly out in Lanylose. But yeah, so that's kind of like, yeah, so yeah, you can lie, I guess, but you would be able to be told. You can lie.

Like, it'll be, people can tell, but you can also just choose not to answer. But also this weird, this weird judgmental thought that you're immediately happening doesn't happen on Lannulus. People don't have hatred and this weird like- Don't believe that.

Other feeling of bizarre judgmental perception on other people of Lannulus. No fights on Lannulus, only orgies. Yeah, basically. Though honestly, you're not wrong. We'll get to that next week. It's the Rayleigh. We're almost done with this episode, boys. We're almost there.

We're almost there. And then we'll leave, we're gonna leave off as dear old Woody heads off to Lannulose for a visit himself. He's trying to meet, he's trying to find Andy, knock it left behind. And knock it left behind, absolutely. So yeah, transmitting your thoughts is easy once you know how, it's almost like daydreaming completely relaxed, and just letting your thoughts drift to the one you're thinking of.

The people from space did not always have the ability to use telepathy, Indra would tell them. They have a legend of how their world not only was populated, and how telepathy came to them through God. Are you ready to hear the origin story of Lannulus? Well, I mean, obviously it's about time. In the beginning, a spaceship crash landed on Lannulus.

Don't it's past humans, bro. Oh, dude, you're late because supposedly from Earth, yep, according to legend. Yep. The space travelers male male and female, immediately started working to repair their ship. One was named Adam and the other of a. Ava. They were one was named Wally. That's just a pet. They worked for several years trying to get their ship repaired enough to fly. They began quarreling among themselves

and how to repair the ship, and they eventually became so angry at one another that they started leaving the group with their families to make their own way on this planet they clearly were not getting off of. Finally, when no one was left to repair the ship, they were all trying to just to make a living at what we now call farming, but apparently Lannulus is a different term. And these individual family groups began to get very lonely and realize the futility of the anger that had separated their party. They began thinking more and more of their friends wishing they could talk to them but

not knowing where they had settled and being afraid to travel too far from their home. All they could do was wish and think of their friends and hope to meet them again someday. Their wishes to communicate with their friends became so intense that one time a man realized he was hearing the thoughts of a man whom he had been closely associated with. Their thoughts eventually would draw them together, realizing what their intense desires had accomplished for them, they gave thanks to God, and concentrated on the other people of their party. And that was the beginning of mental telepathy.

Those guys with the red and blue own names, the red and yellow own names. Yeah, you got it. That's what lives on Lannulose and Eminem's are from there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Amazing. They look like the spacious. Realizing that God had given them the chance to come together again, they devoted their learning of God's way and credit everything to God.

This is the reason these people are religious, as we call it. Indra told them that their world was guided by what they call the guiding council. This council is comprised of representatives from the different worlds belonging to the intergalactic circle. Each planet elects their representatives, the number depending on the population of their world, and are elected by popular vote of the people. This intergalactic circle is beneficial in that all planets receive the benefits of sharing and all new developments in the fields of technology, medicine, engineering, and more. The Guiding Council studies each world's problems no matter what kind and recommends a way for them to overcome them. They cannot use force of any kind in any way,

but because of their ability to understand each other, there is always a way to find the cause and cure for any problem on a planet. At the end of their talk on their back porch, he invited them to take a ride on his ship, and at this particular moment he refused. He did walk back to the ship with them, which was about 1,000 yards behind their house and back of a large barn, and he stood and watched, both injured and carol get back on the ship and bid them goodbye, and saw them quickly disappear into the night sky. But a seed had been planted in a woodrow, Darenberger. To see Lannulus was his own eyes, to fly on a spaceship that defied physics, how could anyone say no to that twice?

And so next episode, as we begin our finishing, he goes with them, dude. As we begin part two and the final part of injured cold, Darenberger himself will board the ship and fly to Lanylose to experience. I cannot wait. Self and meet a couple of humans who left Earth decades ago to live on Lanylose. And all the time out, time out decades ago. Yep. 40 years prior to this. Well, of course, it was a mere decades.

And of course, good Lord. Dr. O'Darrinberger would also get an offer to move to Lanylose permanently. But we'll see how that's all hidden. Big, titty alien wife. Dude, I would be like, take me away. If I vanish one day, I went to Lanylose. Okay. Maybe not, maybe not.

I shouldn't put that out there. If I vanish one day, make sure I haven't been killed first. And if I haven't been killed, I probably went to Lannulose. Check, check Lannulose. Got it. Guys, make sure I haven't been killed. But then, right out to Lannulose, bring the Gooseberry pie.

Yeah, yeah, that's fair enough. I, there'd be a lot of naked people there. I love that, I love that. I love to hear that. And that'll be where we end. Part one of our two part. Revisit of Indred cold and much more detailed, in-depth look at the life of this man after his interaction with Indred and the weird, bizarre, both good and bad things that happened to him. They're just like us, these naked aliens. They're

just like us, except they don't have hate or war. They're just like us. So weird. They're just like us except they don't have hate or war. They're just like us so weird. They're just they're just What's the weird the woke mind virus? Yeah, this is the future of the world. You won't do it. Oh my god. This is where all the Vax people go. No dude No, we know what conspiracy is. This is where all the anti-vaxxers are. I hope you enjoyed this revisit Andrew cold We'll be back next week with the finale. I'm very excited to tell you guys all about what land you lost. Looks like the food to eat, the people he meets. Oh, the food to eat. Oh my God. It's gonna have like rank or saw some calf. Oh, it's great. It's fucking great. Uh, there's so much cool shit. So that'll be next week. Thank you guys so much for supporting

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