Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 236 - The Dulce Facility Part 2

Episode Date: January 28, 2024

The FINALE of the Dulce Facility is here! Mike, Jesse and Alex learn all the details about the rebellion staged at Dulce Base... MERCH - http://www.theyetee.com/collections/chilluminati Special thanks to our sponsors this episode - All you lovely people at HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Get 55% off of Babbel - http://www.babbel.com/chill  Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Art Commissioned by - http://www.mollyheadycarroll.com Theme - Matt Proft

Hello everybody and welcome back to the Chiluminati podcast, episode 235. I think. Is it 35? It's 35 or 36, either one. Anyway, I'm one of your hosts, Mike Martin, joined by the Mandalorian and Grogu of LA, Jesse Cox and Alex Fasiani. Hello, boys. That's incredible.

I have always thought of Alex more of it Grogu. So that checks out look I'll be honest. I wouldn't mind living Grogu's life Yeah, I just will you round in a little floating carriage and feed you frogs. I can eat I can just like fuck shit up Yeah, there's debate over how smart I am like I can just do whatever I want want. Like I'm just inside my own little, you know that little, you know that movie orphan where the girl ends up being like an old lady. She's like ends up being like a like 45 year old con artist. Spoilers by the way for that movie.

Oh yes, but I did not see that movie. That's okay though. Whatever. Nobody's missing out. Like go read the article about the real story. It's way better. That's what I feel like Grogu is. Like like like Mandalorian is like imprinting on grogu because grogu is like. Like a chihuahua like he's got the face of a baby right he's like soft he's gentle but actually he's like seventy five years old and he's like.

I can use the force. Like him and Luke are like, what's up, man? And like Luke, Luke like, Luke like understands what Grogu is. He's like, Grogu, we are equals. And like, and that's how Grogu is. He's like, you have to choose between being evil or good Grogu.

And Grogu, like when, whenever, Din Jaren shows up, he's like, ha ha ha ha. Like it's a totally different guy. Because it's like a, it's like a, like a up. He's like, like, it's a totally different guy. Because it's like a, it's like a, like a pet. He's like a little pet. Yeah. He's like code switching. Grogu, Grogu wears armor dog. Oh God. That's not, wait, how did you get so deep into this analytical? I'll tell you this. I didn't write it down. That's no shit. You didn't write it down. And I stand correct that he is the most grogu amongst us.

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Jesse couldn't let go of his morals for very long. He will compromise himself rhetorically. That's because no one paid. I'm not going to compromise myself for free. for free that was the demo run you know how this works you gotta give them the good stuff I gave them a little bit they got a little bit of it and I'm gonna let you know you can get more baby that was the PlayStation magazine demo disc the PlayStation yeah you gotta get the demo disc the one with Metal Gear Solid on it no dude I'm an AOL demo disc I'm an

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Okay, boys. It's part two today. Do you remember last week? Do you need a? How could I forget? Yeah, you know, the Dulce facility. How much of a... how much of a... The Dulce de Le. The Dulce facility, as I may have said early on. Last week in the part one of this two-parter of the Dulce facility, what that was was really just kind of a breakdown or a kind of a general idea of what this place is, the floors that are kind of have,

that it has with the different species on it, and what is kind of going on in there, along with a few notable names that were able to provide, quote unquote, and I say provide with heavy quotations, this information after being in the actual base itself. But today, as I promised last week, we're gonna talk details. We're

going to talk intrinsic details as to what is actually going on at that base. The rebellion that I talked about that we briefly mentioned last episode, including the name of a reptilian that helped them form the rebellion to get out of there. And how our dear- S'boba. I mean, hold on to that. Ceboba. Hold on to that. You may be not.

This is a, and then the end, we're talking about how he gets out. And then we're going to talk a little bit about how maybe Dulce does exist, but it's much closer to an Area 51 style thing where Area 51 was denied to exist for a long time until they eventually admitted it. Dulce may be similar in that it may actually be just not like a huge alien base, but a military base where maybe they test technology. And a lot of this story is padded with a lot of nonsense purposefully so that nobody worries about what actually is happening in Dulce, New Mexico. And I don't know if you guys have gone to the subreddit since last week, but two or three people who live in that area talked about all kinds of shit that actually happens out there in Dulce. It's interesting. I don't know if you read any of it, did you?

I caught a bunch of it. I feel like saying that it might be more like an Area 51 situation is kind of like a loaded thing to say because. I mean, an Area 51 situation in that it exists and I'm leaving it at that. No more than like, I'm not saying aliens are there or technology is there. Only that it is a government facility that truly actually exists. Yeah. You know what? I'll take that.

I'll buy that for a dollar. I'll buy that. I'll take that. I'll buy that for a dollar. Good. That's a reference for a buy that for a dollar good What that's a that's a reference for a movie. I haven't seen I don't know Robo cop you still you haven't right? Yes That's right. That's right. I've never seen Robo. I played the game though And it was really like I'll play the ps5 game instead. Yeah, it was good. He's like that's probably good Don't give me that look Jesse and do anything wrong. I Robo cop isn't really necessary cinema. It's I'll tell you this. I'll say this Robocop is a 10 out of 10.

And that's all I'll say. You don't have to watch if you don't want. But if you don't like 10s, then you know that I don't know what to tell you. You've never seen Red Foreman shoot a man's entire body off. The fact that it hasn't happened to you is shocking. Yeah, I haven't seen that. But I also didn't watch that 70s show. So but hey, you knew who Red Foreman was.

So that says all you need to know. It's true. I did. The best scene in Robocop is the one where the guy gets shot in the in the van and he runs into the toxic waste. And then the toxic waste like goes through the van and he climbs out the back of the van. And he's like a toxic waste zombie now. Oh, and then like 10 minutes later, he's like, oh, yeah. It's great. Oh, that's awesome.

Yeah. He gets hit by a car and like shredded into pieces. Yeah. Robocop fucks. And and it's like a satire.. It's great. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. He gets hit by a car and like shredded into pieces. Yeah. Robocop fucks. And it's like a satire. It does sound like fun. And I'll have to watch it. I'll have to watch it. Put on the list of things to see what I hang out with you guys

when I go. Yeah, exactly. We'll watch it when I get down there. Today, though, it's not Robocop. It's the Dulce facility, a much more interesting topic for conversation. Or they're building Robocop at the Dulce de Leche base, which sounds pretty sweet to me.

Does indeed. So last week was kind of an attempt to put together. Time out. Time out. OK, all right. Go ahead. No, I couldn't see this. This man looked directly to camera.

He was like, it sounds sweet to me. And then stared at the camera for 30 seconds of uninterrupted eye contact. Mathis moved on like it was nothing. But then- I have to man, there's nobody can see this other than us. I can't let that slide. What's the point of doing this

if we can't have the time of our lives? This man literally made a Terrible pun and then looked at me because math is moving on looked at me for like Sometimes when you want to laugh you got to follow the advice of Britney Spears. You know what it is You got to work bitch Remember that song No work bitch by Britney Spears. What else you want to know that song? No. Work, Bitch by Britney Spears. What else do you want to talk about today?

Dolce bass. Yeah, Dolce, Dolce bass, please. So, last week, I kind of put together a general idea from multiple sources, from various people who have heard things, who have read things, who have seen things, but only one individual claims to actually have been within the Dulce facility, to actually have seen its floors and actually know what's operating within there. That man is the man we mentioned last week, a man by the name of Thomas Edwin Costello. Today, we're going to go over pretty much all the details he gives out. He has supposedly pictures, the Dulce papers supposedly come from him.

There was only ever one interview that was leaked and I could only find it on the website orachmedia.net. So just understand this is some secret deep down hidden information from the government that's totally filled with truth and don't worry about questioning any of it. It's just chilling on a.net. It's just chilling on a.net somewhere. Using that Frodo and Samwise Gamgee security method. Really?

Descending that in the most unexpected of places. It looks like a GeoCities website, as most of these sources typically do. So we're going to look back real quick at who Thomas Edwin Costello was. This man was an allegedly a former security technician employed by the Rand Corporation and Thomas claimed to have worked deep... The Rand Corporation for Marvel Comics? Yeah, yeah, that exactly. He also claimed that he worked deep within the bowels of the Dulce facility, a place so secretive that its very existence is the stuff of legend. The early years of Thomas painted a picture of an ordinary man with a very, how he claims an extraordinary destiny as a young sergeant stationed at Nellis Air Force Base in Las Vegas, Nevada. His life was just typical military

fare, his role as a military- Point of order as a human being in this life. If anybody tells you that it's their destiny to do anything, just peace out. What if they just say they were going, they feel like they didn't realize they were going to have an extraordinary destiny? That's the exact situation I'm describing. You should get on a Greyhound bus out of that town ski dattle the figure of town stay home Don't give up your home. Maybe buy some residencies and settle down settle down in that town and live in a land where you know your destiny is extraordinary. I don't know I don't know about that

He had a role within the military as a military photographer photographer. However, that might be sociopath No a military photographer photographer. However, this might be sociopath. No, not. But he says being a military photographer gave him top secret clearance and that literally led him into the world far removed from the mundane normality that he was accustomed to. Is the logic on that just like, I mean, somebody's got to take pictures of the secret stuff. It's kind of. So I think you get it pretty much me. Yeah. That's how to take pictures of the secret stuff. So I think you pretty much me.

Yeah. That's how it seems like. And that's how I be Shaq. Yeah. Thomas's journey into this world of the insane began when with a transfer to West Virginia, where he trained in advanced intelligence photography, working inside a mysterious underground installation, his clearance was elevated to T.S TS4, a level that basically was like the secrets beyond secrets, beyond secrets, the stuff that even

the president doesn't know about super secret tech coming from quote unquote the brightest minds in the country. I thought you had to pay Elron Hubbard like $30 million to get that high up. Well, he's dead now. No, no, no, no, no. It's fine. All you got to do is watch one episode of Guys Oh, he's dead now. No, no, no, no. No, it's fine. No, all you gotta do is watch one episode of, uh, guys, I know it's South Park.

I just want to let you know an old man moment just happened there. I just got the name of South Park. I know the name of South Park, and I was gonna say, you just gotta watch one episode of South Park. But what was about to come out of my mouth was, you just gotta watch one episode of those boys in Colorado. There's a young Whippersnappers out there in the snow holding it down and saying all those swears.

I don't know what I don't know why instead of just saying South Park, I was like, got the boys in Colorado. Like somehow that was where's my nephew, Derek could get me a world as as you age, your brain just changes and you can no longer remember things as I like, I remembered it. And it was, it wasn't like I forgot it thing. It was literally I just instead was like Go ask them boys and Colorado like somehow that was the same you're that dude in Napoleon Dynamite. It's just like That's right, I'm learning a new language thanks to Babbel. And thanks to Babbel for sponsoring today's episode.

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It was in 1971 that Thomas's career took a pivotal turn. It's in this year that Thomas was offered a position within the Rand Corporation, serving as that said, security technician. He was located to California, where they had a significant presence, and a security clearance reached brand new heights, upgraded to what else? But security clearance Ultra 3.

So he went from TS4 to Ultra 3? Yes, he went from TS4 to Ultra 3. Yes, he went from TS4 To Ultra 3 correct. They got a new guy who came up with the names of the levels in between Maybe well in his early 70s, you know what were comics in that era? Like what were comics like in the 70s early 70s? Could they write something like this? Yeah, I mean look where Rand was at iron fist in the 70s was like this? Yeah, I mean, look, where Rand was at Iron Fist in the 70s was like the time when it really shouldn't have been a white guy doing a bunch of real cool stuff. Rand, I'm curious, corporation. Yeah, Rand Corporation is real.

No, the Rand Corporation is a real thing, but he's talking about Danny Rand. No, I know he's talking about the Iron Fist. Yeah, yeah. Well, I saw the Rand Corporation, which is a very real corporate. That's a very real thing that may or may not be just as bad as the Danny Rand story from Netflix. So like, you know, it's like, isn't it like, isn't it like a think tank? It is.

And some of the shit that comes out of there is truly awful. Yeah. Surprise. Oh, so again, he supposedly had to work there. He's hired as a security technician. His new security clearance is Ultra 3, which basically paved the way for what was about to happen a few years later. Because in 1977 would mark the year that changed Thomas' life forever.

He was transferred to Santa Fe, New Mexico, and his role evolved into something unprecedented. As a photo security specialist in the Dulce installation, Thomas was responsible for the maintenance, alignment, and calibration of a vast network of video monitoring cameras throughout an underground complex so secretive that its purpose was known only to a select view. Obviously, the Dulce facility. And upon his arrival in Dulce, Thomas, along with several other new recruits, was subjected to a chilling indoctrination. They were introduced

to what Thomas later referred to as the Big Lie. The claim that the facility's subjects used for genetic experiments were irreversibly insane and that the research conducted was for medical and humane purposes. That is what he considers the big lie. That is not true. Okay. As Thomas settled into his new role, go ahead, Alex, please. That's just not the big lie that I'm familiar with, but that's for him.

No, we're in a different time. They're in a different time. Remember, this is coming out like in 2014, this interview is... Oh, no. This interview is leaking like in the 80s or 90s, I think. We just know it went online in the 20, in 2014. So, you know, just not quite the same as what we know right now. As Thomas settled into his role, the facade of Dulce began to crumble. His job, escorting visitors and maintaining

surveillance, brought him face to face with some of the facility's darkest secrets. The base he discovered was a hub for joint alien slash US government operations, a fact that was as exhilarating to him as it was terrifying. In his initial encounters with extraterrestrial beings, greys and reptilians alike, while thrilling, dangerous equally so. Yet, as he delved deeper into the labyrinth of Dulce, he realized that the reality was far more sinister than he had even come to believe on his own from just his interactions. The facility, shrouded in secrecy, was a place where ethics and morality were abandoned in the pursuit of unspeakable,

scientific, quote-unquote, objectives. Thomas Edwin Costello's time at Dulce Base was marked by an escalation of disturbing discoveries. But none more so than his experiences on the sixth level of this multi-leveled complex, infamously known as Nightmare Hall. Level six of this giant multiplex, he's dubbed Nightmare Hall. This is what the heart of this Dysouse facility is supposedly like, a place where the most unimaginable experiments were said to occur far beyond the scrutiny of the outside world, held to no rule or law. As Costello navigated the corridors leading to his clandestine level, the air felt would grow thick and he immediately had a sense of foreboding. The doors to Nightmare Hall would open to reveal a labyrinth of laboratories and holding

cells, each unveiling a new, horrific experiment being done. According to Costello, Nightmare Hall housed a series of extensive laboratories where genetic experiments were conducted by a mix of human and alien scientists. These experiments were not just on animals but on humans as well. He described seeing human-animal hybrids – we talked about that last week, animals, biologically engineered creatures that defied nature's laws. Some resembled mythical beasts, while others were grotesque amalgamations of a species.

You think like a chimera, and then you think like, what's that fucking anime? Shit, alchemist, full mental alchemist, where like that dog daughter, like horrifying amalgamation, like that's what I think of. Don't just talk about it, that never happened and it's not something to ever think about. Oh yeah, right, sorry, sorry. He would recount to in this interview, rooms lined with tanks that were filled with an

amber liquid where embryonic forms would like floated, connected to life support machines. Some tanks held would appear to be fully developed humanoid forms exhibiting physical characteristics alien to any known species on Earth. A chilling aspect of Nightmare Hall, as per Costello's accounts, involved the use of abducted humans as subjects for these experiments. People who vanished without a trace from the Earth's surface found themselves in the clutches of the Dulce facility. And Thomas spoke of encountering disoriented and frightened humans, kept themselves awaiting their turn in the experimental labs for whatever diabolical experiment they were going to be subject to next.

So, a lot of the alien abductions they're saying is basically they're being brought to Dulce facility, whether it's the grays taking them, or maybe's government psyops taking them off the streets. And I believe if I remember correctly, missing 411 sort of alludes occasionally that maybe the people going missing are being shipped off to government facilities, including things like the Dulce facility. Yeah, the tunnels that mysteriously match up and then they go down a slide that leaves them all the way to the Dulce base. Yeah, exactly, exactly. But if you take the wrong slide, you're gonna end up in the back room, so just be careful. But yeah, he's saying all kinds of horrifying shit are being done here and the people who are abducted, this is where they fucking end up. These individuals he claimed were subjected to the genetic manipulation,

often resulting in painful and irreversible transformations. He recounted the despair in the eyes of these captives, a haunting reminder for him of the human cost that he could never forget of this facility. The sixth level also housed advanced technologies that were far beyond any known human capabilities or inventions. Costello mentioned devices capable of just simply manipulating DNA on their own, machines that could alter the very

essence of a living being, and technology that allowed for the creation of life forms designed to specific specifications, which is one of the one things I'm like, oh, hey, we kind of just talked about that when we talked about the grays and that genetic, that dude that was a geneticist who made that post supposedly with heavy quotes and a pinch of salt. Like famous Reddit post, yeah. Yeah, exactly. One of the most disturbing revelations for Thomas was the existence of a technology that he simply dubbed a soul transfer machine The hell is that?

He described a process where consciousness was transferred from one body to another was transferred from one body to another, effectively allowing an entity to just change bodies, prolonging their existence or acquiring new physical forms. You know, the beginning of X-Men Apocalypse. Yeah, sure. You know, dude. Yeah, of course. I didn't see that one.

Was it bad? It's not worth seeing, but that's the plot. Okay, well, there you go. Uh, well, don't they do that in Days of Future Past? They put Wolverine's consciousness back in time. They do that in many things because it is the most sci-fi, tropey, sci-fi trope that ever was. In fact, you know the lovely movie Stargate, right?

Of it, yes. So Stargate, that film, I'm just convinced 99% of modern day sci-fi comes from that movie. Like when you look at people on Facebook and they're like, we just need med beds. They're gonna get us med bed I'm like that Stargate if You look at like the soul transfer that Stargate if you look at traveling through wormholes that Stargate Is that soft disclosure? It's a good question. I'm glad someone asked it. That's good I mean media could be being used in soft disclosure.

I want to watch Stargate now. That would be... Stargate's great. What if the soft disclosure was none of that, but Star Wars has been soft disclosure all along? Star Wars? I watched Stargate recently. I'm just saying.

The best part of that is that, you know what, not even... We should watch it on this show. Just so I can show you the best part of that movie is all the character names. When you realize what every character's name is, it becomes even funnier. It's so good. That's what I'm talking about.

That I want to watch Stargate. But what Jesse, but what if soft disclosure is none of that? But soft disclosure has been Star Wars the whole time. That's not true at all. If soft disclosure is Star Wars, I'm disappointed in the aliens already. I would get religion. I would get religion if Star Wars was real. Fair enough, fair enough. Yeah, the overarching theme in Castella's description of Nightmare Hall was basically

just the utter disregard of any ethical boundaries. Anything was allowed as long as it was in the pursuit of knowledge and power, and basically all that had eclipsed any moral considerations that anybody was doing here. The scientists and beings working in these labs, whether motivated by curiosity, duty, or darker desires, participated in activities that were not just scientifically audacious, but just simply morally bankrupt. And for Thomas, for Costello, Nightmare Hall, like discovering this place, was his turning point.

The atrocities that he witnessed there said he said haunted him forever and propelled his decision to become a whistleblower. The burden of carrying these secrets was too immense, he says, but Thomas believed the world needed to know the truth about the dark underbelly of the Dulce facility. So, you know, that's the turning point for this man overall. In the depths, however, we'll talk a little bit more about the actual, he claims, were the aliens that were living there and their interactions. Because we talked a little bit about last time, but in the depths of the Dulce base, according to Costello, lay secrets not just of advanced technology and on ethical

experiments, but also of just interactions with extra-trustral beings. These accounts provide a vivid depiction of the various alien species that purportedly collaborated with humans in this facility. The most frequent one encountered are obviously the greys. In Dulce Base, as per Castella's account, where the greys and these beings, known for their distinct large head and dark almond-shaped eyes, were often seen working under the direction of human scientists in other species. Thomas described them as a somewhat subservient and engaged in various technical tasks throughout the facility. The grays were involved in many of the genetic experiments he claims, handling intricate procedures that required

precision and skill. Castello noted that despite their advanced technology and intelligence, though, the grays seemed to lack emotional expressions, carrying out their duties with a mechanical efficiency. They kind of just were like the subservient collaborators, essentially. The grays ended up being here in Dulce. It's just so funny how the grays just kind of just were like the subservient collaborators, essentially the graze ended up being here in Dulce It's just it's just so funny how the graze just kind of like Phil Whatever role they're like goombas. They're like the fucking they're like just They're the alien goombas. Yeah, it's like little There's whatever they're like little Lego guys. I don't know, like whatever they need to be, like the foot soldiers, they're the grays.

Or like, if it's like, you know, there's like a spaceship and there's a bunch of different species on there and one of them is the trash guys, you know it's gonna be the fucking grays. But the grays are also the only ones that are like, the grays are also the only ones that are out there like jerking people off. That's what I'm saying.

Does that sound like a job you wanna have? But why give it to the grays? If they're like these subservient biomechanical people, why are you giving them the orgasm machine to use? Why not use it like with the reptilian? Because if you're an a- it's the same thought as why don't most people want to go off and like jerk off a cow? Right. Listen, I am a proponent that the farmer should dress up as a cow for the cows own mental stimulation. No, I'm just saying the same reason why people aren't trying to like, they see us as cows. Get in line to help dolphins and pregnant each other. You know what I mean? Like it's to them, we would be weird. It'd be weird to do it wouldn't be hot. That's true. That's true. Yeah, we're the animals to them. Yeah. We're the strange creatures, but they got psychic powers.

So like make me see something that's not real, make it more fun. But if you're not going to, I mean, like, listen, I'm not saying that has to be the like a barrier to entry. If you can't do that and you still want to take me, I'll go. I'm just saying if you can give me a mental image bonus on top, that's all. Like make it more enjoyable. Then we've got the reptilians. These guys are kind of known as the dominant force within the base.

They're more formidable and commanding than the greys by a long shot. And Thomas described these beings as having an imposing stature with scaly skin and an air of authority. They were the true overseers of the more critical and sensitive projects within Dulce. Their reptilians, as portrayed by Costello, were not just another alien species. They were politically and militarily powerful as well, exerting considerable influence over the operations of the base. They appeared to hold a higher rank in the extraterrestrial hierarchy and were often involved in high-level decisions and negotiations. Thomas recounted witnessing meetings between human military leaders and reptilian representatives

often discussing matters that seem to go beyond mere scientific collaboration. He hinted at a complex alliance with Earth's own governments deeply entangled in a web of interstellar politics and power plays. Reptilians are basically the commanding ones. Within the reptilians, among them, there was a particular subset of reptilians, also known as the Draco, which in other alien lore, Draco and reptilians are totally separate. Here, reptilians and Draco are a subset of reptilian.

These beings were described as even more enigmatic and powerful, possibly the ruling class of the reptilian species. The Draco were seldom seen, but were believed to be the puppeteers orchestrating much of what occurred not only in Dulce but in other similar installations around the world. Castello's description of the Draco conveyed a sense of ancient wisdom and formidable power. He speculated that they might have been involved with Earth for much longer than any other extraterrestrial species, possibly guiding

the course of human evolution and history itself. These guys are explained as having smoother scales, a little paler in their color, not bright green like a typical lizard. They look a little bit different, but they're, again, the ruling class. They're the reason they've been here forever, man. They've been here longer than we were, even things. Then then, of course, we've got the ethereal beings that we kind of hinted at last week a little bit. In addition to the greys and the reptilians, Castello spoke of encountering other less tangible entities. These beings were harder

for him to define, often appearing as ethereal or semi-transparent. Their presence in the base was one of the most closely guarded secrets with only a few high-clearance personnel aware of their true nature. So even Thomas having an ultra-3 level classification, he wasn't even allowed to know what their true nature was. He just kind of encountered them occasionally. He tried to figure out what their origins and intentions were, but he could never figure it out. But he sensed that these ethereal beings were of significant importance to the activities within the facility itself. Their interactions with the physical world were limited, but when they did engage, it

was with a purpose that seemed to transcend the mundane concerns of the base. Whatever the fuck that means. Thomas' words sometimes are a little bit on the vague side. But yeah, these ethereal creatures are kind of just like Around don't laugh Thomas's words are vague for his own safety Okay, whistleblowers got to look out for themselves and sometimes you can only leak in a safely an interview to oric media net So, you know, I understand So there you go There's like a rundown of the majority the major races really just three of them now granted

We have stories and supposed sources say Nordics and all of them were in there as well, but according to Thomas, this is the only things that he saw while he was there. And he's the only one that claims to be from the base as a whistleblower who worked there. So, if you're gonna take anybody's word on this for fact, it has to be Castellos. However, we have no evidence, obviously,

beyond the Dulce papers that are heavily contested or whether are like actually real or not. So then we move into the era that Thomas Castello talks about the kind of the conflict and revelation that he has, where he begins to build this rebel alliance. See, Star Wars may have been soft disclosure. He builds a rebel alliance, dude, to fight back against the evil empire of dull safe

It's still fuck Star Wars was right all along. There's never been another story about a Plucky band of rebels. No, it's only Star Wars. Yeah, no only start you heard of a movie brand new movie fresh idea It's called Rebel Moon. Oh Shit, I have heard of it. I have not seen it. Yeah. I want to watch and then make the angriest video because I know I'm gonna hate it. I know I'm gonna hate it. I love Sucker Punch. So just kidding. Should we watch it together? I would love to watch that movie. It's X Snyder. I'm assuming all style, no substance. It'll be garbage. Like gorgeous cinematography, plot that makes no sense.

Yeah, they should make a movie. He should make a movie about Douce Base. So Costello's like tenure at Douce Base, or Douce facility, whatever the fuck you wanna call it, was not just like a journey through the physical depths of a secret facility, but also became a descent into a moral best sick twisted mind of its creator. Oh fuck dude.

Oh air hypnosis. He would definitely have been there at Dulce facility doing some weird shit. He's like I just got back from Argentina. Did you know the eight ball is different there? He's like, I just got back from Argentina. Did you know the eight ball is different there? It's just like, you know, the torture and then the drugs, because he made the eight ball machine and then the drugs. I remember the whole bit. Is there a ball? Is there a drug?

Or you call a speedball in drugs? I don't know. I don't get to many drugs. Sorry, don't worry about it. You've never sounded like you said it. Educate me. I want to know what it's got anyway. I sounded more like a narc in your life than right now. So don't worry about it. Yeah, this moral quandary for Costello really drove him from this point on.

The realization of what truly was transpiring within the walls of the space, far from the eyes of the public and under the guise of national security, shook his very beliefs. And day by day, as Thomas navigated the complex network of Dulcé's levels and interacted with its unusual inhabitants, he began piecing together a disturbing picture. He observed the treatment of the human subjects and the alarming nature of the experiments,

the ethical lines that were crossed in the name of it, blah blah blah, advancement, collaboration, the usual with extraterrestrial beings beings became increasingly apparent to him. Thomas' conscience was deeply troubled by the plight of the human subjects, many of whom seem to have been abducted from their just regular lives, only to find themselves in the grip of the nightmarish reality of Dulce facility. With the screams that echoed in the hidden chambers of the base, the look of despair in the eyes of the captives, and the secretive discussions he overheard among higher-ups all pointed

to a sinister agenda far beyond mere scientific research. And haunted by what he had seen and learned, Thomas covertly reached out to a few like-minded individuals that he had come to know over his time working within the base. This group comprised not only of sympathetic human workers, but also a few alien enemies. Several metahuman participants, including Professor Xavier. That would be fucking sick. Particularly though, they were from the lower echelons of the reptilian cast who seemed equally disturbed by the direction of their leader's actions. Don't you laugh, Desi? How dare you doubt?

I'm not laughing. How dare you doubt? I would not laughing. How dare you doubt? I would never doubt the caste system of the reptilians. Right. Clearly, they've had millennia to work on it. And it's working out great for them. Clearly. They're in control of our military. These clandestine meetings were fraught with danger. The basis security protocols were stringent with surveillance and monitoring at every turn. A mere whisper of dissent could lead to severe repercussions,

yet the group was driven by a moral imperative to expose the truth. In the narrative recounted by Thomas Costello about the Dulce facility, there is a figure that comes to, that we actually get to learn the name of. The reptilian that you said was Subulba was a name. Ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha. Hidoa. His actual name was I'm sorry, I'm looking this up. How do you spell that? Yeah, I got you. Hang on. I'm going to copy paste this for you.

You can't just say it. I'm just going to tell you a secret. S S H H A A L. That is the name of a Bacurin from the Star Wars universe. We just call him Hal for short, you know, shall shall we dance? You might be saying what would a what are lower caste members of the reptilian species? What do they do at the Dulce facility?

What are your guests? What do you think lower caste members were tilling species specifically? So there's still so there's still like a high class among the other species. But we're talking about like the lower end. So maybe like an assistant or like a walker. They walk around with like a little pad. Yeah, middle management types. Gotcha, gotcha.

People who take meetings that their bridge bosses would like to skip to do fun reptilian golf tournaments and things. Honestly, they'd probably enjoy if that was the case. Because the lower echelon of the reptilian cast, this man was a janitor. Okay. Shal was just a janitor. Okay, because that fucks me up because I would have imagined for sure that the graves would have been the janitors.

Right? No, yeah. Yeah, see, I had that thought too when I was like, wait, but I thought they were, I don't know, maybe the cast system, it's just the way it works there. Yeah, Sshall was a reptilian janitor worker, and he kind of emerges as an unlikely but key participant in the covert resistance against the base's clandestine activities. Here is a more deep, like we're going to go over like a more detailed look at Sial's involvement as per Castello's account. I had to look this up really quick.

So I wanted to look this up because I was trying to figure out like who would serve as the lowest cast. I think it's very similar to cobalds and dragons. Well yeah, because you got the Draco, the Reptilians and then these guys are probably like cobalds. Yeah, little like the Goons, they're like little trashman dragons. Yeah, the cobalds. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, according cobalt. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, according to Costello's account of his experiences, he mentioned meeting the reptilian janitorial worker

just while he was working. And he met him, bumped into him. They kind of had a conversation and things kind of led to how they both don't like how certain things are happening here. The reptilian named Shaw, according to Costello, was part of the lower caste reptilian species working at Dulce and was sympathetic to the plight of the human workers and the victims of the experiments being conducted here. Costello's involvement was significant because it suggested a complexity

and diversity of opinions and attitudes among the reptilian beings that Costello initially thought wasn't true. He thought all the reptilians just hated humanity. So meeting Shaw and meeting the lower castes, like, oh, you guys are just as oppressed as us humans here. There's a common portrayal of them as a uniform, like they could see them as like a uniformly malevolent and dominating species of the reptilians. Even the lower castes saw the kind of iron fist they ruled with.

Castello describedal secretly formed, he described how Shal helped him secretly form a group of like-minded humans and other reptilians who were disillusioned with the activities in the base and willing to support the human-led rebellion. The inclusion of Shal in Costello's story, shall we call, just brings kind of an interesting dimension to Dulce base and I kind of wish that he had

mentioned other names as well and what they did because he mentioned that shawl was key in bringing on other reptilians. But I would have loved to know more about them. We just don't learn anything about anyone else other than shawl and that he was a janitor. And that's all we know. The pivotal moment for the both came when shal directly ended up approaching Costello, and this was highly unusual and risky for any reptilian to do, given the strict segregation and the rules against fraternization within Dulce. You know, the strict you do not talk unless you're only doing like working with somebody at an appointment or research otherwise, if you fucking stay away, don't talk to anybody.

They were afraid for information sharing, I imagine, or something along those lines. But it was in this when he approached him that he gave the, he told them all about his awareness and disapproval of the basis activities which began forming this clandestine group. Shaw revealed to Costello also that he had actually already formed a small secretive group of reptilian workers who were disturbed by these unethical experiments and this group, while limiting their capacity to effect change due to their lower status, would end up being crucial as well in providing information and support to the human-led resistance effort. So yeah, Shaw had like a spy network within the reptilian hierarchy that would feed him information that he would then feed to a Costello that

informed the rebellion group they were forming at the time. The alliance between Costello, Shaw and others was very dangerous. Communication had to be super discreet and meetings were held in secrecy due to the omnipresent surveillance and the risk of punishment as previously mentioned. And Shaw and his group risked not just their positions but potentially potentially their lives as descent was not tolerated within reptilian hierarchy. Shal's comp... Yeah, yeah. Like he truly says, like he says that he was risking his life, that they could kill him for this if they ever found out. Whether you, you know, whatever that fucking means is no evidence, obviously, but hey, you know, the guy was risking his

life and I salute the solar to shaw. You gotta respect it, yeah for sure. Yeah I respect this man. He uh shaw's contributions ended up primarily being in that information with the connection of his spy network. He provided insights into the activities of what the higher ranking reptilians were doing, their movements within the base and potential opportunities for the human resistance to swing in and gather evidence before other uh eyes came into a room that had been recently emptied or something.

His role was also pivotal in demonstrating that descent existed among the alien ranks, challenging the monolithic perception of the reptilian species that Castello previously had. Charles Fate, however, during the uprising and subsequent crackdown within Dulce facility, is not really clearly detailed by Castello's account. His involvement in the events leading up to the rebellion paints a picture of Crossbease's collaboration driven by a shared sense of moral outrage and a desire for change, but what ends up happening to him is just kind of left out. We don't know. The story of Shawl as part of the base narrative for Costello kind of just like adds another layer of like storytelling complexity and more ambiguity and maybe even confusion to the story.

But I don't know if this man is truly making it up, which obviously I think he is. I don't understand the point of bringing up this character and making this character. And then just like not at all finishing the story. You know what? Sometimes you just sometimes you just fall in love with an OC and you just gotta- He just don't want him to die. He's gotta let it ride for a little bit. You know what I mean? You gotta let it be what it is.

You think Shal was like Thomas' OC? He truly fell in love with this character? It's the only one with the name. It's the only one with the name. It sounds exactly like when I made a fighting game when I was 11 years old on paper and I just drew it with my hands when I was like super into Mortal Kombat trilogy That's the name of a character that I would make shawl with like two with like two of each letter Except for the L. Yeah, like come on. Yeah. Yeah, very yeah

But this alien name X Sephiroth X and I it was really cool dude. He had a huge sword, bro really cool dude. He had a huge sword bro. Uh, the we gotta move on. Uh, the rebels, as they might, uh, as we should call them devised a plan from this point on to bring the realities of Dulce facility to the light of the public. Thomas Thomas was given his role in security, played a pivotal part in gathering evidence. The very documents and photographs that would later be known as what we mentioned last week, the Dulce papers. So the Dulce papers are things that he just scooped from the base before he left, according to him. Do you need a relink to that? The Dulce papers, by the way, I got you. Don't worry. I would love one.

Yes. I have that at the ready. Don't forget. It's at bibliotechuppliades.net. Dot net, baby. Off limits. Slash especially off limits. You see that? Oh yeah, at scooped from the base, supposedly.

So while you're looking at that, those are all government papers, quote unquote. They're playing with these Dulce papers, I almost said Dulce again. Their plan was to leak this information to the public, to reveal the existence of the base and its egregious violations of human rights and ethics. And they hoped that public outrage and scrutiny would force the powers behind Dulce to cease

their operations or at least bring them under regulation. That was like the goal, which is kind of a weird, a weird like goal, I guess. I just don't know why he didn't take pictures of something. I mean, there's the number one question. He was the photographer for a while. Yeah, like the man was camera ready for a long time. Yeah, it's just up. Anyway, before we move on, I also want to give you a quick list of other bases

that are all operating in similar styles, or at least where they're located, as well as a tunnel system that connects all operating in similar styles, or at least where they're located, as well as a tunnel system that connects all of them. Like Disney? Like the Denver Air Force? Yeah, it's across states. So in Utah alone, Salt Lake, Lake Powell area, Dark Canyon, Dogway Grounds, Modena,

Vernal, all of them have exits as well. These are all entrances and exits to the area. And he says that Mount Arculita, Arculeta, or Mount Shasta is a major site of alien elder race, reptilian race in human meetings. That's pretty close to us. There you go. Beginning in Cleveland, Grover, every president in US history

has visited Tello City. Truman was supposed to have visited the lower realms as a high archon on earth. He was supposed to have met the king of the world there and given the keys to the USA, quote unquote. Mount Arculeta has a shuttle system that connects with other bases that moves through Mount Shasta and connects these other bases across the state and across states and cities. I've never been more convinced that the internet was a mistake. This is the ramblings of a madman.

Are you sure? What you're saying right now, any other time at any other point, if anyone had said this publicly, they would be laughed at. This is goofy level now. We are full goof. You're denying the truth that the government's hiding from us, Jesse. Well, after Grover Cleveland,

after Garfield went to go visit the king of the earth and give him the keys to the United States, like that is nonsense. I mean, you say what you would. Yeah, I can't. I don't know what to tell you. I will say what I will. That's utter garbage.

Prove it's a lie. Prove to me it's a lie. Jesse, go ahead. You know what? And that is the inherent problem with all this. I simply can't. Exactly. That's how we deal with facts here. We prove we we they're true until proven false. Yep. Now, he had Ultra 3 level clearance and he had heard rumors suggesting of lower levels

that he needed Ultra little 7 level clearance to access. He does say he wasn't able to get there, but he did hear a lot of talk and he did say that he saw elevators that were quote unquote off limits unless you had Umbra or higher security clearance at the base, which is even higher than ultra. T.S.4, Ultra 3, Umbra. Yep, you got it. This is like worse than Xbox. This is like worse. This is worse than Xbox.

What sucks about that? What sucks about that is that like T, that is that there's T3 and there's T3R. Those are real security clearance things. There's phased and then there's national agency check things and Xs. It's partial true and then throwing in things like I'd umbra level like Suddenly it's it's like you know, I think it's showable. It's the same thing is shawl. It's like a little too edge Lordy I'm going to post a snippet of the interview. I want one of you to ask the question and one of you to read.

Can you give me more information on the reptilian race? What do they do on the sixth level? The area called Nightmare Hall. The worker caste does the daily chores, mopping the latex floors, cleaning the cages, bringing food to the hungry people and other species. It's their job to formulate the proper mixture for the type 1 and type 2 beings that the Draco race has created. The working cast work at the labs as well as at the computer banks. Basically speaking, the reptilian races are active at all levels of the Dulce base.

There are several different races of aliens that work on the east sections of Level 6. That section is commonly called the Alien Section. The Draco are the undisputed masters of the 5, 6, 7 levels. The humans are second in command of those levels. I had to argue with one large draconian boss frequently. His name is difficult to verbalize. Karsh Fasth. I actually called him Karsh and he hated it.

The draconian leaders are very formal when talking to the human race. These ancient beings consider us a lower race. Cars called me Leader Costello, but it resused in a sarcastical way. However, the worker cast is friendly enough as long as you allow them to speak first. They will answer if you address them.

They have very cautious beings and consider most humans to be hostile. They always seem surprised when they found many of the humans were open and trustworthy. There is no fraternizing with the aliens off hours. It is forbidden to speak to any alien race in the halls or an elevator without a clear business-oriented reason. Humans can talk to humans and aliens can speak to aliens, but that is as far as it goes. At the worksite however it's different. There is free speech in the labs. The

camaraderie found in the labs also reaches the computer bank section. In those areas everybody talks to anybody. I think they're sharing memes. Is that what's going on? I don't know if the alien memes are very funny. However, everything changes the minute you cross the threshold of the camaraderie found in the labs. Oh wait, cross the threshold of the hall. Instantly, all conversations become strictly formal. Hard as it was. Several times, I had to arrest someone simply because they spoke to an alien. It's a strange place. And that is one answer to one question out of like 20 to 30 questions. And he just said that he just spoke that definitely not a written line.

Definitely spoke that out to a person who asked him, formulated it in that way. But, uh, you know, that's to give you an idea of how this man kind of gave information out, but it gives a very detailed idea of how the reptilian caste system. Do you feel more educated? I feel like I have more information in my head, but they're about as educational as song lyrics. Okay. That's a very nice way to put that.

Yeah. So, all right, we're done with just like listening to his, we'll go back to the actual outline of the show here. And we're moving into the ensuing chaos of the rebellion that was about to happen. Before the group could enact their plans, disaster struck. Somehow the base's higher authorities got wind of the brewing descent and a crackdown ensued, swift and brutal. Castello described how in an act of ruthless efficiency,

a military strike team entered Dulce, targeting not only the human conspirators, but also any alien entities that were seen as collaborators. The corridors of Dulce, once the silent witness to covert atrocities, now echoed with the sounds of gunfire and panic. It was a kill on sight. Like I said, their lives are at risk. He was right. Like the military came in and start putting people down. Thomas witnessed the fall of his co-conspirators one by one, though not of Shtar-a-la, because we don't know what happened to him. The rebellion ended up being crushed right then and there, but it only solidified his resolve to now escape and take the truth to light. So they couldn't even get a rebellion off the ground.

The rebellion was formed before they could make any action, they were found out and they were crushed. So now his only goal is to get the fuck out and get information out so we can share it with the people so that maybe something can be done about this facility. So in a harrowing flight from the base, Castello managed to evade capture, and with him he carried the evidence that he had gathered, a testament to the unspeakable acts committed within the walls of Dulce. The burden of these secrets and the trauma of what he had witnessed would haunt him for the rest of his life. And Castello's story, as he told it, is one of a man who despite the overwhelming odds, chose to stand against the juggernaut of hidden powers. His account of Dulce base, a facility shrouded in mystery and horror, challenges the very limits of our understanding of morality

and what humans are capable of. Gentlemen, do you see what the government is hiding from us? Do you see why we have to fight back? Starting to glim- I think I'm starting to glimpse it. Yeah. I don't see the why yet. Because there's horrifying things happening in there. That's why

Duh duh. Yeah, but basically the why is because the government can't stop it So they're like well, we might as well just join in sure. Yeah, but but then at the same time They're like we're also racing for alien tech and They're like we're also racing for alien tech and we're also keeping this other side of it quiet and also like The more you add the more impossible it all becomes how dare you fair So while people are being gunned down this military strike team moving with Ruthless efficiency through the Dulce facility Thomas made his decision in the midst of midst of the chaos, he realized his only option was to flee. His intimate knowledge of the facility's layout, coupled with the confusion of the assault, aided his escape and avoiding being shot down dead.

He navigated the maze-like tunnels, avoided patrols and surveillance, driven by a desperate instinct to survive and tell the world what he'd seen. As he made his way through the lower levels, Thomas encountered scenes of desperation. He saw other staff members and beings caught in the crossfire, struggling to comprehend the sudden outbreak of violence in a place that, despite its sinister nature, had always been meticulously controlled.

Castello emerged, finally, from the Dulce base, not as a triumphant whistleblower, but as a haunted survivor. Burdened with the heavy weight of his experiences, he had witnessed the brutal suppression of a rebellion that sought to shine a light on atrocities hidden beneath the surface. His escape marked the beginning of a new chapter, one filled with paranoia, being pursued, and the moral obligation he now carried to reveal the truth to the world about what our government

was doing. The documents and evidence he managed to smuggle out, the Dulce papers, became his legacy, a testament to the courage and horrors associated with one of the most enigmatic and controversial conspiracy theories of all time. The story of the uprising and its crushing defeat within the Dulce base, as narrated by Castello himself, leaves us with a chilling portrait of resistance

in the face of an overpowering shadow authority. It's a reminder of the lengths to which such powers might go to preserve their secrets and maintain their agendas and control the human population with a fist like Iron Fist and regardless of any ethical or human cost. Estello was a hero and a whistleblower who now found himself in exile. He narrowly escaped the deadly purge at Dulce. Estello found himself a man on the run carrying with him the secrets of one of the most secretive installations on Earth. He was aware that his life was now constantly in danger, that he could never

again lead a normal life. In his exile, he released the Dulce papers hoping to shed light on the atrocities. The papers filled with descriptions of advanced technologies, alien species and horrific experiments sent shock waves through the UFO and conspiracy theory communities at the time. The story of Thomas Edwin Castello and the Dulce facility base remains one of the most enduring and controversial tales in the conspiracy theory library. Skeptics question the veracity of his claims for good reason, pointing to the lack of concrete evidence, in the absence of records confirming his employment or even his existence. And believers, however, view Thomas as a courageous whistleblower where the military wiped out his past and pretended he was a nobody while

making fun of him and performing covert psyopsis on him to keep him confused and paranoid. Do you hate when people do that? I do. Wait, so you're telling me time out. Let, let me get this straight. I could go around like right now on this podcast. I could announce that I in fact served four tours of duty. Well, I was a well decorated soldier. I was in Vietnam, the Iraq war and the war of 1812. I have been involved in many top secret things.

And here's the thing. I'm not a fan of the war. I'm not a fan of the war. I'm not a war and the war of 1812. I have been involved in many top secret things. And here's the thing, guys, I saw the Dracos and the Greys, but you just have to trust me on this. All the evidence was lost and my military record was was expunged because the government is trying to silence me. No, you're one step behind. I'm actually very important. No, he brought. Don't look it up because there's nothing to look up.

The records have been. He brought the Joseph papers, though. He's got 25 pages of documents. Do you have 25 pages of documents? I just documents. I mean, I have 20. I know what behind me. I'm pretty sure I do.

What kind of documents? Who, you know what? The government. Government illustrations of alien test tubes with test tube babies in there? It just all seems very convenient for fakery. That's what I'm saying. Like it's so specific and to say like,

this is the greatest secret man has ever kept. And I'm on the run. Question, this dude dead or alive alive I think he's dead now if I remember correctly let me check I want to know how he was killed by the Dracos is what I'm assuming I assume he was right no no no so I don't know why I'm looking I know the answer to this there's no evidence the man existed Oh, this is the real top secret stuff. This is the tip. I'm going to let you know.

This is the tip. I believe the story more now. This is the tip. I believe it more now because he didn't exist. I'm like, you got me over here. I mean, like, why did he exist? Like, huh, I don't got me even more. That's amazing.

So wait, the guy, we don't even know he existed Yeah, well, that's the thing so like, you know as we look over the decades of people who've done research into this They first look to see if there's any records of Dulce facility these Dulce papers where to come from They start looking into the sky's background And then they realized they couldn't find anything and they couldn't find any evidence that a man by the name of Thomas Costello even fucking existed Fuck yeah. He was wiped dude.

Fuck yeah. I'm telling you, what have you done? Wiped him from the record. The Draco's got him dude. I'm done. I believe now more than the Draco's got him dude. Fuck it. Like we only know this cause of the leaked interview

this guy had with somebody that is on oricmedia.net. So, you know, I don't know. Does that make it more believable? And people would say, well, why release it to, to that website that no one believes you. You believe there's a thing that's the one they forgot to get. They got all the other sources. They had all the other things.

Yeah. Yeah. He absolutely is just frozen. Let's hang 10 for a minute. Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to get froze. They tried to stop me, but I'm back. I was saying that's the one they mean to get froze, they tried to stop me, but I'm back. I was saying, that's the one they forgot to get.

That's the one they like, of all the websites, that's the one they forgot to cleanse and that's why the interview exists there. Because the Draco's got him, dude. What? The Draco's got him, dude. It's surprising they didn't see oricmedia.net but they got bibliotechappliades.net. Oh, they got all of them. Yeahia.net, but they got bibliotech-y- bibliotech-a-pliades.net.

Oh, they got all of them. Yeah, they went through, they got them all, except for that one, because that's... That was, wasn't important. No one's going to that website, so they didn't even notice. Now we're taking a microphone and blasting the truth. Costello's whole hope is happening right now. Dude, we're the last... You know what? Actually, never mind.

Draco's, I don't know shit. Well, listen, if you want to want to yeah, like you shut my door I'm I'll serve I for one welcome being an alien pet. I don't give a damn I'll just I'll be a smile. I'll like do little tricks. You tell me to like yeah speak I'll like start to get his burger dress. What better I eat from both all the time I fucking eat from dogs bark. Yeah. Dogs bark. You make a little bed in a bowl, and then you like watch me as I poo. Like, if anything, I'm in the dominant position.

What if they give you like a little girlfriend, but it's not like a human girlfriend, it's like a robot they made that's like to just like say you, you know, like, hey, hey, hey, it's a little robot. What do you mean, say it? Uh, I mean, like, it's weird, but to be honest. Dog's hump, what do you want them to or not?

Humans are gonna be the same way. You're being kept as a pet, you need some sort of. I mean, to be honest Don't hump one you want them to or not humans gonna be the same way you're being kept as a pet You need some sort of honest. I wouldn't care because I probably they probably get me fixed right? Oh, that's true I never thought about that. So I'd be like ownership it's just it's just responsible pedo spade and neuter dude It looks like do you think they have their own version of like wheel of fortune or whatever and then they have to like spade new to their pets or what up what show Welcome back to

Yeah, their host Bob's yes, no, er is uh He's like get your pet Hey, don't do that This is like a picture of some humans that are just like happy. Yeah. Well, and that's it boys It's in for Dulce facility. The two-parter is done calm Thomas Costello story is out there There's a lot more if you want to go read his interview anybody who's interested all the questions are answered in that Unnecessarily overly detailed way. There's so much we had to just kind of like gloss over so if you're interested It's worth a read just for the fun factor

But yeah, we're done. That's it. Dull State Facility is done. We've talked about it for years. I'm so happy it's over. And it was super fun. I was super excited to talk about it. And I just forgot about the man not existing. That was just like complete mind playing. That's the best part. I love it. Yeah. Fuck yeah. It's so funny. All right. We're off to do a mini-sode for patreon.com slash Luminati pod as we always do. Thank you so much for everybody who's been supporting us over there by the way. It's been amazing to have you guys just supporting us for so long. We've gotten a video mini-sode for all those up the

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