Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 250 - Project Serpo

Episode Date: May 19, 2024

Mike, Alex and Jesse head back into the world of totally real and not made up at all secret government projects, this one about a Grey Alien Exchange Student Program.  MERCH - http://www.theyetee.com.../collections/chilluminati Special thanks to our sponsors this episode - All you lovely people at HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Talkspace Stamps.com Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Art Commissioned by - http://www.mollyheadycarroll.com Theme - Matt Proft

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everybody and welcome back to the Chiluminati Podcast episode 250 boys episode 250 we made as always I'm one of your hosts Mike Martin joined by the Klaatu and Helen of LA Jesse and Alex. Klaatu and Helen? Yeah. I feel like a Klaatu. I think I'm a Klaatu. From the day the earth stood still?
Starting point is 00:00:44 You got it butter butter butter. Butter? I think that's From the day the earth stood still. You got it butter, butter, butter. Butter? Just call me butter? I think that's what I was hoping to hit out. You got it butter. You got it butter. I'm just in Texas too long. Cause I want to spread you all over my toast. Oh my God. Happy episode 250, my new nickname. That's just Alex from now on.
Starting point is 00:01:02 I hope that just takes over Alex. Like I hope I'm just butter Fosciani now. We're just gonna call you butter from now on. Yeah. Because you so smooth. Yeah. And creamy. Alex butter.
Starting point is 00:01:12 You gotta hit that like foghorn leg horn that. And you melt when hot. Yeah. Melt so nicely all over my buns. White bread. If I'm being real, I'm duck fat. I'll just let that. I'll just let that land. I don't really know. Do you spread duck fat on toast? Yeah, no, I do.
Starting point is 00:01:33 He's grossed out, but I do. I really do. I don't know if I would like that. What does it taste like? It tastes like a better version of butter, bro. There's lots. Look, there's like a better version of butter, bro. There's lots, look, there's lots of different kinds of mysteries out there. Let's put it that way. There certainly are. There's lots of different kinds of mysteries out there and you should try DuckFat on toast.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Or if you don't want to do that, head on over to patreon.com slash ChaluminatiPod where you can try supporting us with money because it helps us make the show the way we want instead of having to like worry about SEO and dumb crap like that isn't that cool it's it's the duck fat of patreon it really is it's it's not really expect it's not what you'd expect but when you go on there and and you see that ad free episodes you see the mini mini so it's all those. How many are there that that are not out? So many about almost two years worth. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:02:29 Let's there's 52 weeks in a year. We're talking 100 episodes. Some of them are like as long as episodes, like no bullshit. It really is a problem. There's no way we could actually catch you up. If you're listening right now and you're not on page, you're on your way. But you're not. You'll never catch up. If you're sitting there and you're like at the end of the Chiluminati and you're like, do I listen to the whole thing over
Starting point is 00:02:50 from the beginning? Fuck that. Go on Patreon and listen to 100 episodes of the show that you haven't heard before. Or, or, or listen to the episode again, then go on to Patreon. Do listen to them both at the same time. Or buy one in each year. Buy five Chiluminati t-shirts. That's another thing you can do. That's great. That's another good way. But there's also a rotten popcorn show on there on the Patreon that's like Mathis showing us his like disgusting menagerie of movies that he keeps in a drawer and us
Starting point is 00:03:23 trying to show him what real art is and speaking of real art Mel studio melectro the greatest like monthly art that you can get online it's so sick it has such a vibe it's really cool shit she always does something that I don't expect and it always looks awesome and you too can have all those things and more and what do we say we were gonna change the ten thousand dollar tier two? We said we're gonna change it to something cool. Listen to the last episode to find out. It was like something. It was something that you it was something that
Starting point is 00:03:56 you wanted. Something like let's go on a road trip tricking everybody into paying for a vacation that will film in return. I don't remember what but it was some kind of it was something it was like very exciting. Yeah, it was some kind of paranormal barbecue vacation. I don't know. It was in the range of travel and or owning a house. Yeah, it was like one of those. Yeah, one of those things. Yeah. I'm gonna have to interrupt for a second and say, I need to step up. I see ants on my floor and I'm on the second floor of my house. So I just need to figure out where the fuck they're coming from. My man's got an infestation.
Starting point is 00:04:25 No, there's like it's not like a fuck ton. I see like three or four and I can see a little trail and they're going into my closet, which has zero food. So I don't know cinnamon up those holes keep selling Patreon because with your Patreon, I can buy cinnamon to get the shit out of you with your Patreon. You can help him not have ants. Yeah, we can.
Starting point is 00:04:44 We can cinnamon up math. This is holes today at patreon.com slash Slum Naughty Pod, where you can stop the ants from crawling into our hosts' actual homes just by supporting us with your money. I don't have ants. Jesse doesn't have ants. He lives in a great, he lives like by the water. It's very ant unfriendly. It's very salty over there. Not a lot of stuff for ants. I'm going to stay on this topic until we find out whether or not math is his house is infested with ants. He is gone from sight. I see his he has left. I only image that I see right
Starting point is 00:05:17 now pajamas. What is that? The only thing I see in his room is a giant UFO poster and the're coming in the window, motherfucker. Hang on. Okay. They're, oh, he's, he went, he's gone. They're coming in the window. It feels like- He doesn't help.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Go to patreon.com slash fumblinati and help him fortify his windows from the ant invasion. They have heard inside, he's got the good sugar and they're trying to get in there. Send them in up that boy's holes. Yeah. They have, they have heard the word is spread to the call back to the colony. The Queen has a bloodlust for human flesh and Mathis is going to pay the tax. She has decreed not a joke.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Mathis must be feasted upon. Yeah, they're going to get the boy. Those are the Scouts that two or three help us out. We got a we need you on patreon. Please. The real question is, are they ants or secret government drones sent to spy on him because he knows too much. Sometimes he makes me feel like I'm on the Muppet show in real life.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And then he uses the webcam screen as like, like a, like a, like a camera lens. He came in, he like spun her at first. He was wearing, he revealed first that by coming into the background with his butt to us that he was wearing Santa pajamas. And then he like did a spin around into the chair, picked up his headphone said they're coming in the windows motherfucker and then spun out of the frame in the other direction just now came back. I don't know what he's doing now. Walked by spun his chair 360 for no reason on the case went to the window We can't see what's going on. Although I will say there does appear to be a giant hole in the wall
Starting point is 00:06:51 Yeah, do you see that? It's a perfectly circular. I don't know what that is. Is it cat something for cats? I think it might be a cat home. I think it might be a cat home. I don't know what's going on there He's really he's really got like a vibe going on right. He's now showing us ground cinnamon. He's got it. I cinnamon the window. All right. Now hold on timeout timeout. So how you do it? Yeah, you did it. All right. What do you mean? You cinnamon the window and I sprinkled cinnamon all along the edges and then I shut the window. Yeah, that's perfect. Ants hate cinnamon. That's my old wives remedy that I got for you. You know, if you were a real son of a bitch, you would go out and buy a shaker of cinnamon sugar and put it on the windowsill. So those bastards would be like, let's go boys. And they'd all die.
Starting point is 00:07:39 That's the worst trap you could do. Does cinnamon kill them? No, they just. Oh, I don't know. I hate it. I just think it'd be brutal to be like, you want this sugar? That's like giving them like it's like giving them like a addictive drug that will kill them. That's spice. I think I got the scouts. I think I caught it early because there's only a few of them. And I like stomped on the ones that are well squished. I'm glad you handled it.
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Starting point is 00:09:39 Just go to Stamps.com, click the microphone at the top of the page, and enter code CHILL. Thank you so much to Stamps.com for sponsoring today's episode. I can't wait for the message. Just like they just stalled for so long and nothing was talked about. Real episode starts at 3741. I don't actually even know what the topic is today, which is like. No, none of you do. It's a great surprise for me. one. I don't actually even know what the topic is today, which is like, no, no, none of you do. It's a, it's a great surprise for me. Is the surprise that there is no topic and that you're just going to try to episode two 50, we're not doing anything.
Starting point is 00:10:14 You're going to try and trick us into like not starting the show for as long as possible with as many like weird things that happened around your house as possible. That's like, oh, that's a great, like April fool's like thing to do. Hold on. Sorry. My cats are having a war. Hold on. I'll be right back. Got to go. Got to get up. Sorry. No, it's episode 250. And a bunch of stuff has happened in the world of the UFO world. Many things that's really interesting, like the most recent thing with the, what do you call it? Lou Elizondo and Greenwald Black of Black Vault, who's a guy who FOIA documents over 20 years basically, and just stuffs them in the Black Vault online so you can go over them,
Starting point is 00:10:50 just kind of keeps them from public. And the whole time he's always said that Luella Zondo's con man, he's lying about ATIP, he's lying that he was never in charge of it, all that, you know, that he was ever in charge of it. And then a few days ago, Greenwald got in one of his FOIA requests, an email from within the Pentagon, some higher ups that not only mentioned Lou Elizondo as head of a tip, but also Lou Elizondo handing over a tip to the next person who would take it
Starting point is 00:11:14 over, which was Tippedin, uh, and confirming that he was going through all the right procedures to do so. And so Greenwald has now sat with two separate Pentagon pieces of information from the Pentagon FOIA requested that say two totally different things. So one way or another, we know the Pentagon's lying about Luella's on in one way that the emails are fake that he just got or whatever, or the other things are lying. And then he got confirmed later on that day from the DOD that that email that he got, he was not supposed to get. That was a slip up. That was not supposed to be given to him
Starting point is 00:11:46 by the FOIA, FOIA, whatever. What's the legality on that? If it's out, it's out? It's too late now, yeah, it's out. It's out there. Yeah, that's their fucked up. They fucked up. It's out.
Starting point is 00:11:56 That's out there. Wow, okay. Nothing they can do about it now. Oh my God. It doesn't prove everything Lou has ever said is true. That doesn't at all mean this, because Lou Elizondo has made some wild claims out there and I do not necessarily believe, but does seem to add to the credibility that he was in fact head of a tip and that he in fact did resign and hand it over to somebody like he had been
Starting point is 00:12:19 saying. So it's just weird, crazy cool stuff like that. And then quantum stuff, which we're going to talk about the mini so later this after this one about the warp drive kind of scientific discovery, which is really cool. But in, in, in celebration of that, we're doing back to back alien episodes, they're not a part one and a part two, they're going to be totally two separate topics. This week is all about a topic that we've already kind of covered
Starting point is 00:12:41 in depth Roswell, but not Roswell specifically, but the secret government project that followed Roswell known as Project Serpo. Are you boys at all familiar with Project Serpo? Is this the folder and the filing cabinet filled with alien stuff that was moved around What? since the 40s?
Starting point is 00:13:04 We kind of touched on it in Battelle No, this came around 2005 from 40 anonymous emails that there's no way to prove are remotely true. Oh Delightful. Let's all right Buckle up. Yeah It takes things that it starts in the story starts in the 40s Of course, like it kind of starts way back. We can even go all the way back to like the Thule Society and proto Nazi Germany. And it kind of technically starts there.
Starting point is 00:13:31 But it's just like a long history that's not really relevant to anything, anything that's actually happening here. And then next week we'll have a special guest with us that we'll be covering the Travis Walton abduction in depth next week. So if you want to watch a movie that's related to that fire in the sky, I believe it's what the movie is called. Yeah. Have you ever seen that? I have seen bits of it, but I haven't seen the whole thing. I watched it in college for some reason. I don't remember why.
Starting point is 00:13:57 That movie is based on the Travis Walton story. And they made the abduction scenario as close to like, as he described it as possible. So it's like a really unsettling abduction scene, which is what I've basically seen of the whole thing. So if you want that, that's going to be next week. It will have Aaron Hansen of the Game Grumps joining us for that. He has a, he'll have like, he has like, I guess he's seen a UFO on the back of a truck at some point in Florida. That's all I know. So let's go. We'll see what that's about. I'm very excited. Let's go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:25 So love a good personal story. Yeah, I'm excited to see what that's about. But this week is Project Serpo, all about Project Serpo. And if you don't know what Project Serpo is, well, don't you worry. I'm going to guide you through this incredibly real, totally factual, not at all made up for some reason story that has basically two main sources. The two main sources I'm using are a book called Secret Journey to Planet Serpo, a True Story of Interplanetary Travel by Len Casten.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Planet Serpo, really? Yeah, yeah, you got a problem with that? The planet's called Serpo? The planet is called Serpo. You do have an issue? It sounds like a lubricating oil from like 1936. You had to go buy, yeah. A Serpo lubrication oil. They 1936. Had to go buy. Yeah, they had to go buy to get to make your track.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Do you make your tractor fucking run or some shit? I don't know. Lube up your tractor made by Mengele's family at the time, because they owned all that farm equipment back then. Historically, lube up your Mengele brand tractor with Serpo oil. Am I wrong? Is it not Mengele who had the family who owned and created all that farm equipment that then had to like rename their farming equipment after not like after World War Two? Oh, I literally I do not know. You're
Starting point is 00:15:32 saying that like I learned that the same time I learned about World War Two. Like I have I don't know what that is. Yeah, Mangala. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He had a farm. That's exactly what it is. He's farming his whole family and farming a queen like they had Yeah. Yeah. He had a farm. That's exactly what it is. He's a farming, he's like his whole family and farming a coin. Like they had to like, that was their whole shtick. That's not what we're talking about today. That I don't know. We're talking today about project Serpo. Serpo is not an oil that you lubricated your 1930s robot with. No project.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Serpo was an agreement between the U S government and an alien government where we would send 12 of our best off the planet Serpo for an industry for an amount of time which will get to where they would essentially be like what do you call it? What do you like? Stargated like no like students like a trans transplant students. Oh, like a like a like a exchange. Yes, yes, like an exchange student.
Starting point is 00:16:23 That's pretty much the gist of Project Serpo. So we'll get to it, because we're really not starting in Project Serpo. We're rewinding back to Roswell. We're starting in New Mexico, 1947, after the sun has dipped well below the horizon. In the long shadows, quickly give way to night. A rancher by the name of Mac Brazel
Starting point is 00:16:42 is making his rounds when he stumbles upon a site that would forever change the course of history. You should all remember this from the Roswell series, but he scattered across his sheep pasture amidst the tumbleweeds and cacti saw a wreckage of twisted metal and strange symbols. It's unlike anything that he had ever seen before. A technological marvel that seemed to defy explanation. The air crackled with an eerie energy and a sense of otherworldly awe washed over him and amongst the wreckage were bodies, beings that lied about. Now, the word of the flying disk crash spreads quickly like wildfire
Starting point is 00:17:17 through the small town of Roswell. Locals gather, whispering in hushed tones. Newspapers launch articles before they are forced to correct the article by the government. The military quickly arrives after a couple days, their demeanor tense is secretive, and they cordon off the area, shooing away curious onlookers and confiscating any evidence that they could find. The official story, released to a skeptical public, claims it was a mere weather balloon that had malfunctioned.
Starting point is 00:17:41 We're all very familiar with the story, and I think we all know that even if you don't believe as alien, it might have just been a foreign piece of technology spying on us. It definitely wasn't a fucking weather balloon. Regardless of what the government said, though, the whispers persisted, fueled by eyewitness accounts of unearthly materials, indecipherable markings, and even rumors of alien bodies being whisked away under cover of darkness. And then the shadows, a clandestine operation, is immediately set into motion following this crash. The recovered debris is transported to a secret facility where scientists and engineers work
Starting point is 00:18:15 tirelessly to unravel its secrets and if you believe this is true are still trying to figure that shit out to this day. The truth, they discover, is far more extraordinary than anyone could have imagined. This wasn't a weather balloon, but a spacecraft, a vessel from another world, and it carries within it the potential to reshape our understanding of the universe and reality. So this is from 2005? Yes, the origin of the story is from 2005 from 40 emails anonymously sent to the individual who put this all together essentially.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And they're still hitting us with the weather balloon coverup story? I genuinely don't know. Yeah, I guess in 2005 they're talking about it for sure. I don't know if that's the case still today. I imagine it is. I just got like a great idea for an episode of Chiluminati that's just all about weather great idea for an episode of Chiluminati. That's just all about weather balloons.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Like an episode of- Literally like an educational episode about weather balloons and how exactly they work. It should be about what weather balloons actually are and all the things that people have said are weather balloons and whether or not they could be weather balloons. Okay. You know what? Put that episode together and let me know when you're ready.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Yeah. I don't know why it's so common. I mean, you would have to start with every conceivable type of weather balloon, when they were used, how often they were used, how many existed, then where they were used. And if any were used in the vicinity, like books have been written on the subject that like, good luck, buddy. Yeah, it would be like a six or seven part of a two parter of an eight part cryptography. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. This would be no, this would be very straightforward. No jokes about this.
Starting point is 00:19:51 Well, this would just be about weather balloons. OK, no, if you say so. After this 1947 crash, there was another 1949, which we also talked about the crash at Corona. It happened in 1949 when another mysterious object plummets to Earth, this time near Corona, California. The military response is even more secretive this time, with the wreckage quickly whisked away to a hidden location.
Starting point is 00:20:12 That's not that far from here. No. Oh, yeah. How is how far away is Corona from where you guys are in LA? Yeah, it's like a little bit past Disneyland. Yeah, like two hours. That's actually not not even not even like an hour. Yeah. OK. Yeah. You guys may be a man not accounting for traffic. We can totally. Yeah, that two hours. That's actually not not even not even like an hour. Yeah, okay Yeah, you guys maybe this man not accounting for traffic. We can totally yeah, well, that's true. We could totally go there That's cool. We should I mean, we'd probably be escorted off the military base very quickly, but it'd be cool to go
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah, we go to Miguel's and get a trash burrito at least. Oh, yeah, Brita. What do they call? I don't know I didn't ever heard of it a trash burrito sounds good besides The government obviously trying to keep it secret. Rumors obviously still leak out and whispers of another alien spacecraft, this one intact and containing living beings. The government, of course, denied everything, but the seed of suspicion was already planted. Two crashes in two years. And for a lot of people, this is hard to dismiss as a mere coincidence. And behind closed doors, the government establishes a brand new project,
Starting point is 00:21:06 one shrouded in secrecy and fueled by a burning desire to understand these otherworldly visitors. They call it, quote unquote, Project Gleam, a code name chosen to reflect the glimmer of hope that this encounter could bring to humanity. The aliens are held in a secure facility, their existence known only to a select few, and scientists and linguists are working tirelessly to try and establish communication with the one living being that they had been able to whisk away. Now, going forward known as EBE1. And what they quickly learn when they finally able to make some sort of communication with him is that while yes, he was part of the ship and knows how the ship works, he was actually
Starting point is 00:21:43 just an engineer and he has no idea why they were here at Earth at all. He was just, he just survived the crash. He was there to make sure the ship ran and then that's it. So he had no good- So he was bad at his job is what you're saying. Like he was actually- He's bad at his job and gave us no good information. Right, right. Yeah. The aliens are, the bodies are also held in a secure facility and they're hoping to just try and unlock the secrets of this advanced technology and knowledge they'd suddenly had at
Starting point is 00:22:07 their fingertips. Is the story that this dude is EB? I'm gonna call him EB. Yeah, EB. EB-1. Is EB still alive? We'll get to that but uh I okay we'll get to that. Just let the story take you for a minute here. I'm letting I was just you pause this this story project Serpo as well is also supposedly the in for this in the the true inspiration for Steven Spielberg's Close encounters of the third kind and that he was directly involved with project Serpo and got access to documents of what actually Spielberg yeah now We do know he had a jail and Heineck with him and that he knew about project blue book But apparently also knew about project Serpo.
Starting point is 00:22:47 So throw that in there. So yes, in the depth of the secret facility, the lone survivor from the Corona cash crash became known as EBE1 or EB1 as the alien was designated was a being of extraordinary intelligence and resilience. Despite the trauma of the crash and the strangeness of its surroundings, it seemed to very quickly adapt to its new reality at the clutches of human hands. I imagine we're not keeping him in the most luxurious of confines, probably being kept in like a cube. Scientists and linguists flocked to the facility, eager to communicate with this visitor from a supposedly another star system. And at first, progress was slow. But E.B.
Starting point is 00:23:25 One, with its innate curiosity and desire for connection, proved to be a remarkably cooperative subject through a series of intricate diagrams, gestures, and eventually a rudimentary form of communication. E.B. One revealed a wealth of information about its home planet named Serpo. It described a world both familiar and alien, a place of two. Yeah, go ahead, Alex. Yeah, yeah. I just like the description. That's all. A world both familiar alien makes me think of that Guardians of the Galaxy movie where it's like
Starting point is 00:23:53 suburban 80s earth, but they're just like animals. Yeah. Yeah. Hang on to that thought. Minus the animals, minus the fact that it's all animals. So just just 1980s suburbia 1980s, you know, keep that in mind. Yeah. So yeah, they got the rudimentary language set up in he started talking about Serpo. They started learning about Serpo and like I said, both familiar and alien has two sons unique flora and fauna in a civilization far more advanced than humanity here on Earth.
Starting point is 00:24:25 EB1's cooperation, though, didn't stop there. It provided insights into the advanced technology that we had recovered from the wreckage, explaining the purpose of various devices, and even demonstrating how some of them worked. It was like a crash course in alien engineering, you can think of it. He was just fine. He was totally fine just explaining of explaining how things work, which, you know, you would think the government would have maintained that knowledge in some way and, you know, applied
Starting point is 00:24:51 it to all the other things that they, you know, have supposedly recovered and can't figure out if it's a secret baby compartmentalization. It's all part of the design, bro. They're covering it up. Yeah. So he provide insight and advanced technology explaining the purpose of various devices,
Starting point is 00:25:06 even demonstrating how some of them worked. But perhaps the most significant revelation came when EB1 expressed a willingness to facilitate further contact with his home world. So he's like, yeah, we can, I can reach out. Yeah, I'll call home. No problem. Let's chat. So it's, uh, EB1 spoke of an exchange program, a chance for humans to visit SERPO and learn from its advanced civilization. Do you see the end of close encounters of the third kind? Yeah, no, I get it. Wait, so you know what? I'm gonna let you,
Starting point is 00:25:36 I'm gonna let you do this, but I right. All right. Sherpa Sherpa. Pardon me. Sherpa. Pardon me once to ask you. I'm a Sherpa. I'm your Sherpa. Pardon me once to ask you, is this a thing that we're planning? But pardon me also knows that you're about to say, it already happened. And I hate that.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Damn right it already happened. Damn right it already happened. And I'm going to tell you all about it. You know what? You know what? I got yelled at on Reddit for blocking you and your story. How dare you? But right now I wanna say for the record, no fucking way. Keep blocking me bro, it's part of the charm.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I need you to keep my ego in check. I can't, no, I need to hear this. I need to hear this nonsense. We started with 40 emails that there's no way to prove are true. So yeah, yeah. If you buy into this, you should probably go to the lands beyond the ice walls of Earth. We have another one.
Starting point is 00:26:32 They bring another ship. And you know what? No, I'm going to shut up and let you go. Go. We're only at the part where he's willing to facilitate communication with his whole planet. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Okay. Okay, okay. Okay? Okay. So yeah, it spoke of an exchange program, a chance for humans to visit Serpo and learn from its advanced civilization. And this was a turning point, a moment of unprecedented opportunity for the human race as a whole. The government initially hesitant eventually did agree to the proposal.
Starting point is 00:27:01 They saw the potential benefits of such an exchange, a chance to acquire new technologies, expand their knowledge of the universe and perhaps even forge a peaceful alliance with an extraterrestrial species. The seeds of project Serpo were sown a bold and audacious endeavor that would push the boundaries of human exploration and challenge everything that we thought we knew about our place in the cosmos. And I even have like, there's, we're not going to go through it all,
Starting point is 00:27:28 but there's like little journal entries that we supposedly got pictures of. I have a list of all the things they brought on their journey for supplies as well that we'll talk about. It's a really it's fun. That's 1949. This idea quickly takes place as they talk to E.B. over about a year or two.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And now we're going to move to 1954, about five years after the second crash. And in 1954, the Cold War casts a really like kind of new ominous shadow over the world of another potential hot war. But behind closed doors and the highest echelons of power, a different kind of conflict is brewing, one that could alter the course of human history forever. President Dwight D. Eisenhower,
Starting point is 00:28:05 a man known for his calm demeanor and strategic mind, finds himself facing a decision of unprecedented magnitude. EB-1, the alien ambassador from Serpo, from I should probably tell you the Zeta Reticuli system, of course, has extended an invitation for a human delegation. Yeah, the planet Serpo is within the Zeta Reticuli system. Jesse, you look very confused. I'd like to help. Is Zeta Reticuli the binary star system? I'm going to look this up.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yeah, yes, it is the binary. Because remember, his planet has two stars. So yes, that he reticulates the binary star system. I feel like, I'm going to look this up to verify it. But I feel like those are technically newer stars than the to verify it, but I feel like those are technically newer stars than the sun. Maybe I have no idea. Actually, that's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:28:50 I wonder when we learned that too. I just want to point out for the record, they're faster and better than us in this story. They became a society faster, better and learn to travel faster than us. Hey man, all it takes is a species not willing to bomb themselves out of existence every 20 years or so, you know It might not take much if you where would humanity be if we weren't at war all the time, you know What kind of fucking like pro war machine speech is this pro war machine? War machine. It's an anti war machine. We'd be in so much further along without war
Starting point is 00:29:22 I'm saying that's why these guys are better than us because they might not have war They might just be pure scientific beings. I do have a lot of questions. According to Wikipedia, Zeta Reticuli, 39 light years from Earth, and it has many asteroids, but doesn't appear to have any planets. Although the first alien and the movie Prometheus took place there. So soft disclosure, baby. So there you go.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Disclosure. You think that planet with that naked white skinned, like marble statue, like big giant nose, man. That was Serpo. I mean, well, one of them was earth, I think, but I don't know. It doesn't matter. For me, this is a great movie to get high and just watch the first half. I've actually never seen Prometheus. Dude, let's do it on rotten popcorn. That would be, I'd love to. You get scared.
Starting point is 00:30:07 We owe Jesse a video. Apparently we did not give him. I don't want to watch that weird birthing scene. I'm all right back to President Dwight D. Eisenhower. So yes, EVE is the alien ambassador from the Zeta reticular star system has extended an invitation for a human delegation to visit the home planet Serpo.
Starting point is 00:30:24 It's a gamble a leap of faith into the unknown, but Eisenhower ever the visionary that he was, sees the potential rewards outweighing the risks. And in a clandestine meeting at Edwards Air Force Base, you remember the rumor of we talked about Eisenhower going to meet an alien on the Air Force Base before? This is that alien? This is one of the, it's one of the explanations that this is what the same is There's a there's also there's many different explanations and actually different he was a serp weegee
Starting point is 00:30:51 This is some say Eisenhower made this is where the contract was made where Greys could go and abduct alien Abduct humans at an X number per year that they're supposedly breaking, but we can't stop them anyway But this is another explanation as well for this. I was just saying breaking, but we can't stop them anyway. But this is another explanation as well. I was just saying, uh, that what if like, you know, like how we were talking about how aliens like sometimes maybe are like a being that like we think what they are and then that's what we see them as. Yeah. Yeah. What's that? That's from a sorry, those are the sorry mass effect. Yeah. Like what if this, what if this, uh, story is like,
Starting point is 00:31:23 it's all one being, but it's like, everybody, everybody saw what they saw. You know what I mean? Like just. How do you know your red is my red dude? Yeah, exactly. Maybe Eisenhower saw a Serpian dude and maybe the guy watching them meet saw. You think the Serpians are like your Serp-oans?
Starting point is 00:31:40 Serp-weegans. Ooh, I like it, Serp-weegans. Hopefully they don't get too mad about us calling them that. In a clandestine meeting here at Edwards Air Force Base, Eisenhower and a select group of advisors met with what they were now calling the Ebens. E-B-E-N-S. It's just kind of what they co-named them. That's Ebens worse.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Incredible. Incredible. So they're there. Oh yeah, so they're now the Ebens. They're there with a delegation of even. So Jesse, that answers your question. He reached out to his planet. They sent a ship with evens to arrive at the Air Force base
Starting point is 00:32:13 and meet with the president. And now you might be asking, what do they look like? Well, they look like what you expect them to look like. They have large heads. They're kind of short, large almond shaped eyes, slender bodies. They exude an aura of just like intelligence. So your typical grace. They look kind of short, almond, large almond shaped eyes, slender bodies. They exude nor of just like intelligence. So your typical grace, they look like your typical grace. So this then goes against the common notion that grays are
Starting point is 00:32:33 subservient to tall whites. Correct. This is a totally different take on what the grays are. And the only place in any UFO like lore or history where this is how the degrés are described. There's no other place that describes the grays like super nice and like come hang out on planet Serpo. The negotiations are supposedly intense, the stakes for humanity are just very, very high, but after hours of intense discussions, a tentative agreement is finally reached. The Eben's will provide the means for a small group of humans to travel to Serpo. In return, the humans will share their knowledge of Earth's culture, technology, and history. It's a cultural exchange, that exchange student situation.
Starting point is 00:33:20 A diplomatic mission that could pave the way for a new era of cooperation between two vastly different civilizations. But the risks are undeniable. The journey to Serpo, 37 light years away, will be long and arduous. The evens motives are still kind of unclear, and there's no guarantee of the astronauts' safe return. Yet Eisenhower believes the potential gains are too great to ignore. So, the decision is made. Project Serpo is a go.
Starting point is 00:33:47 The government initiates a top secret program to select and train a team of astronauts for this unprecedented mission. They are chosen not just for their physical and mental fortitude, but also for their diverse skill sets and unwavering curiosity. We're talking scientists, engineers, linguists and soldiers, all united by a shared sense of adventure and a thirst for knowledge. The training is rigorous and demanding, supposedly pushing them to the human limits of endurance. The astronauts learn to adapt to a simulated alien environment that they've built for
Starting point is 00:34:16 them, grapple with complexities of even language and culture like a prep program, and prepare for the unknown challenges that will await them when they finally do land on this distant world. When you say language and culture, is the implication then that instead of the aliens that are like, I'm talking to you in your brain, these dudes mouth move and they're like, hey, it's me even one. Yeah. Well, there's a little bit of vocal, but there's a lot of telepath stuff, like a lot of they'll touch their heads
Starting point is 00:34:45 and like images will happen. But they- How do you train that then? They, I don't fuck, dude, I don't know. What do you put them in a room with an EB, EB man and let them just like touch the head? I guess I could be, like you don't have a linguist then. But they also, remember, there is a written language
Starting point is 00:35:00 and like a vocal language as well that they were taught. Like, cause that's part of leaving just like, I don't know. How do you teach somebody? I'm sure somebody who listens to our podcast can answer the question. How do I, how do you teach somebody telepathy? Just let us know. It's eliminate pod at gmail.com. I mean, if you could, it would have been done already. I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:35:17 or they're being kept secret from the, from us by the government for our own. Something I couldn't get. I couldn't think of anything. I mean, you almost you were working on it. Yeah, man. My brain. I saw it.
Starting point is 00:35:31 I saw it. I saw it. And bro is pushing. Yeah. So the decision made project surplus going. They've got, yeah, all those groups of people, engineers, linguists, scientists, soldiers and the training of their both to let telepathic communication, physical communication. We're talking to also just endurance tests, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And as the launch date finally approaches, a sense of anticipation and trepidation fills the air. The world remains oblivious to the monumental event about to unfold, unaware that a group of ordinary humans are about to embark on an extraordinary journey, one that will forever alter our understanding of our place within the universe. And they also started calling this project also project crystal
Starting point is 00:36:07 night, but we will continue to refer to it as project circle for now. But it's another code name that they layered on top of it is project crystal night or K and K and I. You know what? I like it. Yeah, that's cool. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:23 All right. It's like a comic book now, too. Absolutely. Yeah. All right. With the green light from the highest office in the land, the covert gears of Project Serpo began to turn. The task was monumental to prepare a dozen humans for a journey into the unknown, a voyage that would test their limits and challenge their perceptions of reality. The military combed through its ranks, seeking individuals who possess not only the physical and mental fortitude of astronauts,
Starting point is 00:36:49 but also the intellectual curiosity and adaptability of explorers, scientists, engineers, linguists, medical professionals, and even a few soldiers with specialized skills were handpicked for this extraordinary mission. And trading began in a secluded facility, hidden away from prying eyes. It was a crash course in the bizarre and the unfamiliar. The astronauts in training dubbed the SERPO 12 delved into the intricacy of even language and don't shake your head, even language and culture. Their days filled.
Starting point is 00:37:16 It's true. Days filled with strange vocabulary drills, simulated social interactions. Can you imagine that being put in a room and there's like, there's a couple of humans just dressed up as aliens, and they're like, okay, in this social situation, this guy spilled his drink, and you accidentally farted and get farting on the planet can get you killed. How are you going to get out of it? And I don't know. Maybe it's like an improv situation.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Can it get you killed? Like we don't even farting on the planet can get you killed. I'm practicing my improv. The implication they have butts is also new to me. True, true. They shouldn't have. I don't think they have. They're not supposed to have. They shouldn't have butts. They're not supposed to have butts. Yeah. That's common gray knowledge.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Why did they use the name Serpo if they were going to like you repeat it so often? It's just such a bummer. The Serpo 12, they can be called like the chosen. The Crystal Knights do exactly. That's what I was going to say. be called like, the Chosen. The Crystal Knights, dude! Exactly! That's what I was going to say, they could just call them the Crystal Knights. Exactly! Done!
Starting point is 00:38:10 But no, they're the Serpo-12. Is Final Fantasy soft disclosure? I think it might be! Oh my god! Fuck! So yeah, they get to delve into the intricacies of even language and culture, doing those simulated social interactions, and even attempts to decipher their enigmatic writing system. Physical conditioning was equally
Starting point is 00:38:29 intense as the astronauts prepared for a gravity environment different from Earth's in an atmosphere with a unique composition. They spent hours in centrifuges, accumulating their bodies to the g-forces they would experience during space travel. They practice wearing bulky pr- don't, don't. You got a problem? The science checks out, Jesse. You got a problem? That's how science works. I mean, I guess I have a question about the Serpian's space travel capabilities. Yeah. Is this- Hang on to that thought. You know what? I'm going to be honest. What I love about this is it's so completely like every other space travel is like we got aboard spaceship and we blasted off into space and it was like we were barely moving and suddenly another world.
Starting point is 00:39:12 This one's like no dude. G forces. Yeah, that's how you know it's really sick. That's why you know those 40 anonymous emails were from a true source. He mentions G forces. They also practice wearing bulky protective suits designed to shield them from Serpo's harsh radiation. But the most challenging aspect of the training was the psychological preparation.
Starting point is 00:39:34 The astronauts knew that they were venturing into the unknown, a world filled with unfamiliar sights and sounds and sensations. So they had to learn to trust their instincts, adapt to unforeseen circumstances, and maintain their composure in the face of the unknown. Through it all, a sense of camaraderie and shared purpose grew among the Serpo-12. They were a team, bound together by a mission that transcended national borders and earthly concerns. They were the pioneers of a new frontier, the first humans to step foot on another world.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I can't imagine being one of the Serpo-12. I'd probably be trying to ask them to change it to the Crystal Knights though. The Serpo 12, dude. I think if this is real, I think- Like there's the Majestic 12? The Majestic 12 sounds way cooler. Yeah, way cooler. But that's because it's like-
Starting point is 00:40:17 And that's been around since the 80s. Yeah, the Serpo 12 is like- Serpo 12 is 05. It's almost copying it. It's kind of lame, yeah. So yeah, they got a bound by camaraderie doing a, get to do this new frontier. And as the training intensified, so did the excitement anticipation. The launch date drew closer and the world remained blissfully unaware of the
Starting point is 00:40:35 extraordinary endeavor about to unfold. The Serpo 12, the chosen few, stood on the precipice of history, ready to embark on a journey that would redefine humanity's place. Now, the year is 1965. We push forward a good 10 years, or a good like 12 years rather. The world is a powder keg of political tension with the Vietnam War escalating and the Cold War threatening to boil over. But in a remote corner of the United States, a secret mission is about to launch after 12 years of preparation. One that will change the course of human history in the SERPO-12, the hand-picked team of astronauts
Starting point is 00:41:10 have completed their grueling training. Why did it take so long? 12 years? I can imagine, dude, training to go live on another planet that's just genuinely alien, it's radiation everywhere, you have to learn a language, social customs, all kinds of shit. But 12 years is a long time to that's why they call it the Serpo 12, bro. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:41:34 I'm back in. I'm back in yet. These guys all hand-picked have completed their training. They're as prepared as they can be for the journey ahead, which would be a 10-month voyage to a planet orbiting a binary star system. 37 light years away, Serpo, the home planet of the even. So there you go, Jesse. It's going to take 10 months for them to fly 37 light years
Starting point is 00:41:54 with the technology that was given to them by the EV, the evens, you know what the phrase you said before, similar yet alien or whatever you said is exactly what I described this Everything you're saying is like your brains like okay. I get it, but yeah, it's it's totally different from every What's insane to me is all the other alien things we've talked about When I hear this story, I'm like well this can't be real because all the other alien things we've talked about which is making my mind hurt I like, well, this can't be real because of all the other alien things we've talked about, which is making my mind hurt. I have broken you, Jesse. It's happened six years in your brains. Like, well, that can't be real because all these other alien things are the really
Starting point is 00:42:33 because all these other alien stories. Yeah. You didn't even know it happened, man. I did. You got me. This is a long con. You got 250. I special, baby. It was a special day today. I'm going to write this in my diary later. Here's your diary. Jesse accidentally admitted his brain thinks aliens are real. Only the kind that sounds real as opposed to the fantasy ones. Right. The kind that is so futuristic.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Like the problem with this is it seems so of the time that instead of being like they traveled through a wormhole and they ended up in the... It was like, no, no, no. They blasted at high G force for 10 months. That's crazy. So lasted at high G force. So 12 years of training made sense. So yes, excitement, apprehension, all mingling in the air as the launch dates around the corner, the astronauts clad in their silver spade suits, bid farewell to their families and loved ones. They know they're embarking on a one-way trip for X amount of time, which we'll get to in a second, a journey into the unknown with no guarantee of return,
Starting point is 00:43:31 even if they even say they will be returned. And their sense of duty and thirst for knowledge, though, outweighs all their fears. And in the dead of night, under a blanket of stars, the Eben spacecraft ascends upon the designated landing site and it's a site to behold. Again, this apparently is another the inspiration for Close Encounters of the Third Kind. It's a gleaming silver disk that seems to defy gravity as it hovers silently above the ground.
Starting point is 00:43:55 The astronauts board the craft, their hearts pounding with anticipation, and the spacecraft's interior is supposedly unlike anything they've ever seen. It's sleek and minimalist with no visible controls or instruments. The evens with their serene expressions and gentle demeanor quote unquote, guide the astronauts to their seats. And with the gentle hum, the spacecraft lifts off,
Starting point is 00:44:15 leaving behind the familiar world of Earth. The astronauts gaze out the porthole windows as the planet shrinks to a tiny blue marble and then disappears altogether. They are now alone, hurtling through the vastness of space on a mission that will test their courage, their resilience and their faith in humanity's potential. Uh, two things. Before we move on,
Starting point is 00:44:40 I do have a list of supplies that earth sent them with to take on their journey to, uh, the new planet. Secondly, something that for some reason, I guess they never thought to ask because it kind of becomes apparent to them later. They don't know how long they're going for. They just said for a time or let's go and they would be swapped back. How long do you think they were there for? I mean, a 10 month trip. Other than the 10 months, how long were they on planet planet Serpo? I'm going to say based on the 12 year investment plus 10 month trip.
Starting point is 00:45:09 At least minimum five, six, eight years. I think days. I think days we got two extremes, five to eight years, days, and they were like 12, 12 years. And all right, it was a nice weekend visit. Go home. No way. Let's see. Let's go. We'll see what the answer is. 30 days. First and foremost, I've got a list of supplies. I'm not going to go through all of them.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Obviously, it's a huge, huge list, but this was submitted to the email network on April 3rd, 2006 by Anonymous as Posting 18, which I imagine means 18th of the 40 that he eventually got with the following message which was attached to the person who received it, Victor, the following information pertains to the equipment our team took to planet Serbo. All of the military equipment was real, at least back then. And by real anonymous, evidently means that it was operational. Like it worked. Evidently the information was included in the debriefing documents. So first and foremost, they got to bring a bunch of music, baby.
Starting point is 00:46:05 They brought a fuck ton of music. We got things like Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, the Kingston Trio, Brenda Lee, the Beach Boys and Bob Dylan, the Beatles. All of these are the Bing Crosby, Dinah Shore, as well as some classical music like Mozart, Handel, Bach, Schubert, Mendelosson, Rossini, Strauss, Beethoven, Brahms, Chopin, Tchaikovsky, and Vivaldi. And obviously they brought patriotic United States music as well, and Christmas music.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Why Christmas music? Is it like just, was it supposed to be like the best of what we have? Like I understand like some of the best composers. I understand, I just don't understand the Christmas music. Is it like weird? I don't know, there's no any other holiday music in there. Yeah, don't understand the Christmas music. Is it like weird? I don't know. There's no any other holiday music. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Why do we pick Christmas? That's a weird vibe to me. I don't know why that's the vibe. That's that Simon and Garfunkel. That makes sense. Everybody loves trying to bring them seek like this is a covert Jesus operation. We're trying to like, is this like some missionary? I don't know, man. They also brought there's other the last three things for music.
Starting point is 00:47:04 They brought Indian chanting music, Tibetan chants and African chants. These last three for the intended benefit of the even hosts, it says in parentheses, which I don't know what the fuck that even means. Then they brought clothing, a bunch of clothes. Obviously we're talking obviously their space suits, 220 pairs of socks, 18 hats, 112 pairs of underwear. Just to give you an idea of how specific the list is. And it's like a long list. And then a bunch of fabric for repair and stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Then they got metal equipment, portable x-ray machine, a hundred pre-packed medical kits for advanced trauma care, 1,200 food testing kits, because they don't know what kind of food they're going to have after they've run out. Yeah, they brought two years worth of food, by the way. That's about all they brought was about two years worth of food. 10 months way. Like that's about all they brought was about two years worth of food.
Starting point is 00:47:45 10 months journey. They knew they had a 10 month journey there and back. So why only two years of food giving them four months of extra food makes no sense to me. I don't get it. Where would they store it? If the ship was the alien ship, how big was like the big, big silver disk, like a big silver disk in the fridge in the frie. I mean, look, yeah. Okay. It must have been a big disc. Here's the thing. Also important to know, like these ships, there's something about them that's like they're bigger on
Starting point is 00:48:14 the inside than the outside. There's like when we that specific to this story, though, you can't just add other alien lore when we've already gone against alien. I'm calling you on this. No, no, it doesn't go against it. I think Lazarus has mentioned it before, but it's in another a few others where like they can go into the ship, humans go into the ship and they, if they don't immediately feel nauseous, they slowly become nauseous. And there's like the inside is just spatially bigger than the outside of the ship. I understand what you're saying. Yeah. And that's in reference to previous alien lore. This is
Starting point is 00:48:47 an entirely new story with no evidence that it's bigger on the inside. That's what they say. They got sick when they would go on the ship and it's bigger on the inside. That's what that's these people said that yes, but I'm not giving you the entire book. I'm cutting off a lot of shit. So like, yeah, okay. This is bigger on the inside and they got to bring all this shit the even on their even ship. And again, the when people would go on these ships, they would get nauseous because it's just
Starting point is 00:49:07 like something about it being bigger. Maybe they move into like a parallel pocket dimension. I don't know. That's like a D&D thing as far as I'm concerned. They've got testing equipment there. You're talking like geological testing equipment, chemistry testing equipment, radiation, military, biology, all kinds of shit. You've also got miscellaneous stuff like blankets, weather balloons.
Starting point is 00:49:28 I don't know. They gave them 50 military weather balloons. I don't know why. See what I'm saying about the weather balloons. There's something going on. Thank you so much to our long time sponsor, Talkspace. In May is mental health longtime sponsor, Talkspace. And May is Mental Health Awareness Month. And Talkspace, the leading virtual therapy provider, is encouraging people to talk it out in therapy. We get it, man. I get it especially.
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Starting point is 00:51:55 ammo and a bunch of other fucking shit tanks of nitrogen gas and miscellaneous gases for cutting equipment oxygen these dudes they equipped these 12 people for war. And I also don't, I guess if they get there and the Eben's decide to kill them, but I'm like, you think the Eben's would understand that they're bringing military equipment because it's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:19 They drop them there, yeah. It's weird, it's very, very weird. I don't understand. They also sent them with 75 military-style sleeping bags again There's only 12 people does that just mean like shitty. That's a good question I guess that's a question for military listeners as a military-style sleeping bag Good or bad you would imagine have to be good because it would need to be able to handle whatever temperature The soldier has to sleep in I don't know. Yeah, so there's that they also sent them
Starting point is 00:52:43 This is where I even I was like, all right, dude. They sent them with vehicles, 10 military style combat motorcycles, three military M one five one jeeps, three military trailers. This literally is Stargate is what this is. This is literally where where do they store the fuel? Where's the fuel? Oh, they got sent with 1500 gallons of fuel for all of the above items. Bullshit. That's it. No bullshit. How big are on the inside is this thing? Dude, they also got one military lawnmower. What is that?
Starting point is 00:53:18 What is that? You know, you got to get there and they got it. They're going to make their very first HOA on even, and they're going to go there and Serpo the hell out of that place. Great. Good stuff. Serpo. But the last of this is they got food, about two years of food. We're talking sea rations, 25 prepack containers, a thousand gallons of water, 150 military survival food kits, 16 boxes of various alcoholic wines, gum, candy, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:53:55 And then the last bit on the list, it just says miscellaneous items. The team members took 2,000 pounds of various other items that are just not listed. So, you know, couldn't tell you. Other cool things that we got, though, is we actually have specific numbers about Planet Serpo now. All kinds of things.
Starting point is 00:54:14 In the third email, it was sent that the statistics of the Eban planet was collected by the team, and this is the data that was given. It's not a lot. The planet itself is 7,218 miles in diameter. It's 5.06 times 1024 in mass. I imagine weight. We've got the distance from both at suns 96.5 million miles and 91.4 million miles because the binary star system. Two moons surface gravity is 9.6 m per second meters per second I imagine. How is what's ours?
Starting point is 00:54:48 9.8 so it's two less nine yeah there's 9.6 so it's theirs is just a little less than ours. Their rotation period so a day is 43 hours for them and an orbit around their binary star system takes 865 of their day days. The tilt is 43 degrees, temperature minimum 43 degrees with a maximum of 126. Distance from Earth 38.43 light years, planet name Serpo. So there's a basic rundown of the planet itself. So now you know it's definitely real now. Yeah, definitely real. So, uh, yeah, they got a literal like fleet of vehicles, military, like, like just fucking arms armed to the teeth for 12 people. It's crazy. Yeah, they're inside the ship at this point. They're humming around in space
Starting point is 00:55:36 and they're on their way their 10 month journey off the planet to Serpo. The journey to Serpo was unlike anything the astronauts had experienced in their training simulations. The even spacecraft powered by an unknown energy source traveled at a speed that defied conventional physics. Time seemed to warp and bend around them. The stars outside blurring into streaks of light, which is just hyperspace from Star Wars. I'm into that. That should be real. I'm glad to hear that's real. You know, I bet you, yeah, if you do have to do, like, yeah, they would have to blur, I would imagine. After what felt like an eternity, the spacecraft began its descent toward Serpo. As they peered through the porthole windows, the astronauts were greeted by a sight that took their
Starting point is 00:56:18 breath away. Serpo was a world of stark contrasts, the vast desert stretching towards towards towering mountain ranges, two suns, one larger and brighter than the other hung in the sky, casting a perpetual twilight glow over the landscape. And the spacecraft landed softly on a vast plane, kicking up a cloud of dust. The astronauts eager to explore this new world, donned their protective suits and stepped out onto the alien soil. The air was thin and dry, the gravity slightly lighter than Earth's, but the most striking aspect was the light, which was a constant subdued glow that bathed everything in an ethereal luminescence. The evens, who had remained silent during the journey, for 10 months the evens didn't
Starting point is 00:57:00 fucking say anything by the way. They fucking dead silent. What does that even mean? I don't know how I feel like I would go insane. Yeah, like what? Wait, they had to start. They had 12 of them. The 12. So they did the 12.
Starting point is 00:57:11 So they existed, but the evens were just did their things and kind of ignored them. They the evens that that flew the shit were supposed to guide them. The evens that that flew them from Earth to Serpo essentially just stayed quiet the whole journey. Oh question. Then did EB1 stay on Earth? No, he went home, but he didn't say nothing to the people that he convinced to go with it. I
Starting point is 00:57:31 Apparently not so I I imagine maybe if I was one of the the Crystal Knights, I would have been Freaked out this guy was like, yeah, come on. We're taking back to our planet Then maybe you get that's what it'd be like if I said hey guys Let's go get lunch and then we got in my car and I was silent the entire time. I just drove you in a direction you didn't know. The other thing too, is like publicly the government dissolved their public identities of the team members so that like they were just going by three digit numbers for a very long time. And that was known as being sheep dipped. Um,
Starting point is 00:58:02 so all the members were sheep dipped. That's a good phrase. Which is very bizarre. Again, there's a lot of weird things in prep that are kind of just like, the book is long. If you want to read Secret Journey to Planet Serpo, it's about 300 pages and there's a lot in there. And it starts with like Nazi bases
Starting point is 00:58:19 and like project paperclip taking them on and all that shit. But it's like,'s it's insane. They also talk about in the memo that they learn of an interesting incident that occurred after the aliens have been taken away. The military tribal team decided to enter the craft. Remember I told you that they walked in and felt like sick when they walked in. Yeah. One person described very specifically that when they stepped into the spacecraft, it felt like they were on a rocket ship to hell.
Starting point is 00:58:45 What the hell does that even even mean like it got hot. It just like they know just like it was they didn't feel good. I don't know. I don't know what it means. That's just what he said. I just thought it was an interesting quote that I forgot to tell you. And I wanted to tell you. That's all I got on that. There's no details. He doesn't. He does not extrapolate. He doesn't go further on any of that shit.
Starting point is 00:59:04 So they're on Serpo. Yeah, I couldn't find it very quickly what I was looking for. So oh well. Yeah. So these guys who remained mostly silent. I stayed silent on the journey. If EB1 was there, I would imagine maybe spoke to them. I would hope he did regardless as they step out of this out of the spacecraft. They greeted the the evens greeted the astronauts with a series of clicks and whistles their faces conveying a mixture of curiosity and warm welcoming. Boys can you give me a rendition of what you think
Starting point is 00:59:31 that sounded like put you on the spot. All right. One is just chewing tobacco. I was trying to do weird ASMR, but like that's the best I got. Yeah. Yeah. A little munching noise. All right. Well, that is, I hope everybody who's listening to this feels like they just stepped on the planet circle themselves that they're, I love you guys. Thank you. The human team armed with their rudimentary understanding of the even language
Starting point is 01:00:16 responded in kind, their voices echoing across a rather barren landscape where the ship had landed. The Edmonds led the astronauts to a nearby settlement, a cluster of low-lying buildings carved into the rock, and the architecture was noted as simple yet elegant, blending seamlessly with the natural environment. The interior of the dwellings was surprisingly comfortable, with soft furnishings and a warm, inviting atmosphere. And over the next few days, the astronauts began to explore their new home. They ventured out into the surrounding desert, marveling at the strange planet life that
Starting point is 01:00:47 thrived in the harsh conditions. And they observed the evens going about their daily routines, their movements graceful and efficient, which is the exact opposite of how they described in every other encounter with the gray, where they're robotic and awkward. I just think of Betty and Barney Hill when the alien didn't know what to do, the gray didn't know what to do with the zipper on her dress and it was just like awkwardly like just vexed. Yeah. The astronauts even got to sample the local cuisine, a strange concoction of unfamiliar
Starting point is 01:01:11 flavors and textures was all we really got out of it. It was a time of for them, they were in the honeymoon period. It's wonder and discovery, overwhelming, a chance to witness a civilization that had evolved along a completely different path than humanity's. The astronauts were filled with a sense of awe and humility, realizing that they were mere guests in this alien world eager to learn and understand its secrets. The initial wonder of arrival soon gave way to the realities of living on an alien world, however. The astronauts, despite their rigorous training, found themselves facing a multitude of challenges.
Starting point is 01:01:45 First, the thin atmosphere made breathing difficult and the constant exposure to the binary sun's radiation required them to wear protective suits whenever they ventured outside. That fucking sucks. The 43 hour Serpo day disrupted their circadian rhythms really badly, leading to sleep disturbances and disorientation in the food while nutritious was bland and unappetizing causing digest. Surely 10 months in space would have changed any circadian rhythm they had.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the fair fair. Sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. I there's so much that I'm like holding back right now. I don't know. Let it let it. There's other me's holding me back, but please continue. You would think it did, but I wonder maybe the ship was like tailored to be to the comfort of humanity so that when those, you know, when they took them on, they didn't, you know, weren't immediately. That explains why the aliens weren't talking.
Starting point is 01:02:33 They were pissed off. Like we got 10 months of this bullshit. Ten months of this goddamn nonsense. I get it now. I get it. Never mind. Yeah. So the 43 hour day threw him off.
Starting point is 01:02:42 The food was bland and gross. And despite the even friendly demeanor, communication remained a barrier, hindering their ability to fully understand the alien culture. However, the astronauts persevered, driven by the curiosity and determination. And they established a routine dividing their time between exploring the surrounding area, learning the even language and documenting their observations. They set up a makeshift laboratory, analyzing soil samples, studying plant life, and even attempting to communicate with local fauna.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Over time, they began to make progress. Their language skills improved, allowing them to engage in a more meaningful conversation with the Ibens, and they discovered underground water sources, easing their concerns about hydration. They even managed to cultivate a few earth crops, adding much needed variety to their diet.
Starting point is 01:03:24 As their understanding of Serpo grew, so did their fascination with the Eben's way of life. They observed a society that was communal, peaceful, and technologically advanced. The Eben's had no concept of money or social hierarchy, instead value and cooperation and harmony. Yes, Jesse? Dude, I wasn't going to say nothing. You stopped yourself. I'm going to get a message, Jesse, keep interrupting his flow. No, no, this is me. I'm letting you. I'm inviting you. I just want to just put out there to any scientist. We have a lot of actually really get a message, Jesse, you keep interrupting his flow. No, no, this is me. I'm letting you. I'm inviting you. I just want to just put out there to any scientist. We have a lot of actually like really smart people.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Listen, I just want to ask this question. So thankful. Thank you for keeping us in check. In a world where you are double sun radiated to the point where you can't go outside without a suit, how and where do you grow earth crops? Just going to put that out there. That's my question that I have to ask. where do you grow earth crops? Just going to put that out there. That's my question that I have to ask. How do you grow earth crops?
Starting point is 01:04:09 That's it. I'll leave it at that. I'll leave it at that. The sun, bro. The sun just does it. Two suns. Sun glasses. Highly radiated. That's like a bonus in a video game. Just put sunglasses on the seeds, bro.
Starting point is 01:04:20 Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. Blue light filter. Calm down. Maybe radiation won't affect it. Gunners. But then aren't you eating radiated plants? Look, I just well, they're technologically advanced. Okay. And they did set up a temporary lab. So maybe they were growing the food in the lab where it was away from the sun.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Yeah, like Matt Damon in the Martian when he pooped in the potato, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Exactly like that. They were figuring this out. He did that. That was real. That was real. A hundred percent. Yeah. Over time. They were making progress language. He did that. That was real. That was real. A hundred percent. Yeah, over time, they were making progress language skills improved allowing them to engage with the evens more. They got water, etc.
Starting point is 01:04:51 And as there's this understanding of Serpo grew, so did their fascination with the evens way of life. They observed the society that was communal peaceful and technologically advanced. The evens had no concept of money or social hierarchy. Their technology will not always comprehensible to the humans was clearly far more advanced than anything on Earth. The astronauts witnessed marvels that defy their understanding, transportation devices that levitated effortlessly, energy sources that
Starting point is 01:05:14 harness the power of their suns, and medical instruments that could heal injuries and diseases with astonishing speed. They were given access to the Eben's vast libraries filled with knowledge that spanned millennia Despite the challenges though the astronauts felt a growing sense of connection to this alien world and its inhabitants They learned to appreciate the even simple yet profound wisdom with their respect of for nature and their unwavering commitment to peace They began to see Serpo not just as a mission objective But as a second home that's the place where they could learn and grow as individuals and as a species.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Like Avatar. Yeah, that's nice. However, their time on Serpa was not without its tragedies. Two of the astronauts that went on the journey ended up dying. One, as far as where it seemed like it was just an accident, like they were working on a piece of machinery and they just kind of got an accident.
Starting point is 01:06:06 The other one got sick and was unable to recover and they died, which makes no sense because they did say that they have medical things that could heal diseases and injuries very easily, but maybe humanity is, you know, human biology is not what their ship's built for. Yeah, so they lost two astronauts to this journey and it was a stark reminder to them of the
Starting point is 01:06:25 risk that they had undertaken. But even in grief, they found strength and they honored their fallen comrades, vowing to continue their mission and bring back the knowledge that they had gained to Earth. They knew that their journey was not just about the exploration, but the constant thing they looked to, which is a brighter future for our species. As time passed, they realized they weren't sure how long they were supposed to be here. Days turned to weeks, weeks turned to months, months turned to years, five years, eight years, ten years. Stop.
Starting point is 01:07:00 What the hell? And it wasn't until 13 years of living on Serpo. One more year. Would they finally go home? Yeah, one more year. What made them, what made them, what are they going to do? What made them say now we're going home? Well, it just seemed like that was the time, that wasn't their choice.
Starting point is 01:07:17 The Eben's were the ones that were like, okay, you're done. I just go home. Because they said you were going to do an exchange for a period of time. They re they didn't get a period of time. And then evens are just when they, they said that was enough. Like you were here enough. They took them back to earth. So the evens, the evens on earth stayed here for 13 years. No, no, no, no, no. The evens went back with the Serpo. The earth, the people from earth lived on Serpo for 13 years. And then after 13 years, the evens are like, okay,
Starting point is 01:07:44 time to go back. People on earth had no idea if they would come back. They were not in commune. Is that how long we had EB-1? No, EB-1 left with them and went back to Serpo. No, no, but I mean, like, how long do we hold EB? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to like, was it 13 years? It was 11 years for EB-1.
Starting point is 01:07:58 They was with us for 11. From the crash to 19, no, he was with us for longer than that. Hang on, he was crashed in 1949. Project Serpa was five years after that. And then they did 12 years or 11 years of training. So he was with us for about 17 years. I mean, all right, like, I guess it really doesn't matter in the end.
Starting point is 01:08:17 I'm curious why they were like time to go. Wait, so two people, maybe a person died and they were like, you guys gotta go home. Maybe, yeah, maybe the deaths were like died and they were like, you guys got to go home. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe the deaths were like, even it's like you guys have to leave now. But apparently the evens had grown fond of their human visitors, but were preparing to send them out with a farewell ceremony filled with bittersweet emotions. The astronauts, their hearts heavy with both gratitude and longing exchange gifts
Starting point is 01:08:42 and promises of future contact with their alien hosts. And after a long ceremony, they boarded the ship, what was rest of the Serpo 12, and began their 10-month journey back home. The even spacecraft once again defined the laws of physics to traverse the vast difference between the two worlds in a matter of months. The astronauts, weary but exhilarated, watched as the familiar blue marble of Earth grew larger in the poor hole window. Their arrival back on Earth was shrouded in secrecy. Of course, the government fearing the
Starting point is 01:09:11 public's reaction to the news of extraterrestrial contact orchestrated a covert operation to retrieve the astronauts and sequester them in a hidden facility. The returning seven were greeted not with fanfare. Not seven, returning seven, returning ten. Sorry. Holy shit. I was about to say, hold on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Yeah. A bunch of other people died, by the way. No, they're turning 10 were greeted with not with fanfare, but with isolation and intense debriefings. The astronauts forever changed by their experiences on Serpo struggled to readjust to life on Earth. They had witnessed wonders beyond imagination, encountered a civilization vastly different from their own and experienced the loss of two of their
Starting point is 01:09:48 comrades. Imagine going live. This is real. Leaving an Earth that's like Cold War, Vietnam War war torn, moving to a utopia of just peace and harmony for 13 years and then coming back to Earth and having to be like, this sucks. Would you I'd be like, take me back, please. I don't want to be here. I live in a radiation suit, please. I would be I would go live in like a geodesic dome in the middle of the woods at that point. Like, fuck that.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah. Painting your walls of memories of Planet Serpo. Yeah, they're intense debriefings changed forever. Seeing the amazing shit that they saw. And over the next few years, the astronauts would slowly share their knowledge and experiences with government officials and scientists. They provided detailed accounts of even culture, technology, history, filling volumes of classified documents. They brought back samples of alien plant life, recordings of even language and even a few artifacts of their advanced technology. But their journey had taken a toll on their health.
Starting point is 01:10:47 The prolonged exposure to SERPO's radiation had caused a variety of ailments from chronic fatigue to organ damage. One by one, the astronauts were slowly passing away, their bodies weakened by the extraordinary adventure that they had gone on. Their legacy, however, would live on. The knowledge they brought back from SERpo sparked new avenues of research and development, pushing the boundaries of human understanding. Who could ask for anything?
Starting point is 01:11:32 The seeds of a new era of technological advancement were finally being sown and the possibilities seemed endless. The return of the SERPO-12, well, 10, to Earth marked the end of an extraordinary chapter in human history. They were heroes, albeit unsung ones, even to this day, whose daring mission had pushed the boundaries of exploration and expanded our understanding of the universe. In the secret facility where they were debriefed, the astronauts recounted their experiences in meticulous detail.
Starting point is 01:11:52 So that's how, like, we supposedly have, like, a really deep understanding of these people locked away somewhere. They shared their knowledge, they had gained the insights, they had gleamed from the civilization far more advanced from their own, but their tales were met with a mixture of fascination, skepticism, and fear.
Starting point is 01:12:07 The government, while intrigued by the possibilities, was also wary of the potential implications of revealing the truth to the public. The Cold War was still raging, and the idea of alien contact could easily be weaponized or exploited. And so, the story of Project Serpo was buried, hidden away in classified files
Starting point is 01:12:23 and whispered about in hushed tones in the corridors of power. The astronauts sworn to secrecy lived out their lives in relative obscurity, their extraordinary experiences forever etched in their memories and nothing more. And in 2005, decades after the mission's conclusion, an anonymous source calling himself anonymous, began leaking information about Project Serpo online. He claimed to be a retired government employee with inside knowledge of the program. His emails filled with details of the accounts and alleged evidence sparked a renewed interest in the Serpo story. And the information provided by Anonymous was met with both, you know, people who fully bought in and believed, and also everybody who, you know, spit on it and said it's dumb.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Some saw it as confirmation of the long held beliefs. Others dismissed it as a hoax or disinformation campaign. Regardless, Project Serpo is one of the more obscure, but still relatively powerful topics in UFO lore. Is it still a good chunk of people who believe this is real? But you might ask, did anything dramatic happen? Nope. It came home. It quietly died of old age, the government has all the secrets that they said, and that's all we know. And that is the end of Project Surfer.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Thank God. Questions? So we just stopped, did we stop talking to them? Did we, are we still best buds? They went home. They're tired, dude. We don't know because they crashed out. We don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:43 We will, I imagine we might be, we must still be in contact with them, but nothing else has been leaked. So I don't know. It's real weird because it wraps up like this is a story that ends. Yes, it just ends. It just there is no like and we have been working with them ever. So it's like everyone involved dead. Everyone who was any knowledge of it gone. The aliens on their home.
Starting point is 01:14:03 We like like it's just wrapped up. Yep. Just wraps up presidents are informed on it to this day. We have we supposedly I'm looking at like there's a 1981 briefing as well for President. I'm freaking what's Reagan who is being read in about all this stuff. He gets cut.
Starting point is 01:14:21 We have like here. I'll read through this. But here I'll have you boys. This will take us out here. Here we go. This is three. There's three parts in this. Oh God. It's so long. No, we're not going to, this is so long. No, nevermind. That's six pages long. I'm not doing that. Uh, it's so long, bro. And it's all nonsense. Yeah. Fuck that. One of the quotes is, okay, this is just amazing. That's Reagan, by the way,
Starting point is 01:14:43 who said, and the amazing is all cat. Okay. this is just amazing. That's Reagan, by the way, who said that? Cool. And amazing is all cow. Okay, this is just amazing. Yeah, exactly. Okay. But that's it. Like we had this exchange program and as far as we know, everything else is locked down. The government's hiding it from us. Project Serpo, everybody. Definitely not made up by a person having a lark in 2005 firing off this information. And it actually took, you know, it took to a certain level.
Starting point is 01:15:10 It became part of a lot of people's beliefs. So boys, final thoughts on projects are before we're out of here. Man questions. Anything I can answer for you. So we first heard about this when, what year was the like, like the emails are from 2005 and they were like being published in real time or what yeah yeah so there's it was a website that is up now that's been taken yes it's been basically being uploaded on the internet since 2005 pretty much like straight away it's a project serpo.org i think is the website serpo.org sorry serpo.org great
Starting point is 01:15:41 beautiful website name what i want to do is draw a line from this story to show how it has reverberated through pop culture and stuff. But really, all the lines are through other better stories and just lead to Serpo, which is just kind of like- Also because this was released in 05. That's what I mean. The lines come from the movies first and then to this.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Yeah, the word, that's exactly what I'm saying. The word I want to say is just kind of like pastiche, sort of like cliche. That's the only thing that's unfortunate about this. I love the premise of these emails and I love the idea of it being like a meta- that's like released over time. I think that's awesome. Why did you go with such a generic story, man? Right? Like why couldn't you have like made it more exciting? And the thing is, if you read the book, the secret journey to planet Serpo, he has so many, just like, uh, he's like, he has a reference. Here's what this means. Like a lot of, uh, just what do you call it?
Starting point is 01:16:41 Index and footnotes, but none of it really does anything. Like it doesn't add or actually clarify anything. It's just like he just like explains like what the area looked like more in a footnote. Like it's just like useless. But you can go find it online. Super cheap. It's like 13 bucks. If you want to read it, feel free. It's I mean, if you're a UFO guy like me, it's at least worth having in your book
Starting point is 01:17:03 collection just to have it because it's just one of those books. What is the name of this book again? Secret Journey to Planet Serpo. Okay. No problem. I'm very, very interested in the hit. There is a guy, Richard C.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Doty, Dottie dotty. Yes. A former security guard, the air force special investigations unit. Apparently this all came out right before a book came out. What year it might be secret journey to Planet Serpo. 2006. Okay. So yeah, that happened right after the emails were starting. So yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:50 Yeah. This is like right. I'm sorry. I'm like trying to read through this Wiki. Hey, how dare you figure out this is a griff? Okay. No. Secret Journey to Planet Serpo publish date was 2013.
Starting point is 01:18:00 So this is apparently it all started in 2005 with email from request anonymous to a mail list. You followed your mail list, um, claim to be retired government guy with top secret info, like everything you said investigation, uh, believes that anonymous is Richard C. Doty Doty. And this is because he was trying to hype up the book that I believe is about this exact. That would make sense. Richard. I'm literally like reading Wikipedia is right now trying to figure out like what
Starting point is 01:18:33 the background information is. Cause that's a story right there. The book is called, uh, the book published, um, April 21st, 2005 is called exempt from disclosure by Robert M Collins and Richard C Doty. And it is so, I mean, this is a thing. I don't know. This is exactly about the same story, but it's interesting. No, but here's my, here's you want to, here's you want to, here's my insane thought. Cause Doty, I know the name and he's one of those guys who's like a little bit, I would consider reliable for the most part overall. But there's there is in my research for Project Serpo, the idea that this is actually a misinformation like
Starting point is 01:19:13 book to combat Dottie's release of his book to just muddy the waters and just make it look more insane. So whatever he's saying just looks fucking crazy because this is coming out so far the same right around the same time that I yes, I've heard that before. So like, yeah, I'm it's why people know better than me. Please let me know. I'm straight up just reading a wiki right now trying to get more info. The government would be one bit like the Pentagon being the one that's trying to like muddy the waters.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Well, we do know that the Pentagon obfuscates all the fucking time. But like, yeah, I don't know. I can't there's no way to prove that this is misinformation. It just is interesting because I did. Dottie book has nothing to do with. He's a lot more, uh, his book is a lot more where is it here is. Yeah. It's a lot more about like a propulsion systems, um, out to be air warp drives, wormhole space-time bubbles. It's like more about the potential scientific ways of how like like or how they do this and stuff. And admittedly, this is the exact op like this is again, the opposite so different
Starting point is 01:20:10 from what the other information you have for the last 249 episodes been talking about that. I'm like, come on, I already don't believe any of this because it's it doesn't fit. So I don't know. That's leaked out of the government. Do you think the truth is going to be more similar to the lore or do you think it's going be, like when we finally. If I was a betting man, my guess is that what we're dealing with, if we were to say it is something else, otherworldly or whatever,
Starting point is 01:20:35 it's probably closer to the indifferent attitudes that they seem to have toward us. This idea that we're not, they're not nice to us or anything like that. They more treat us like wild animals are captured, you know, whatever it's more neutral I think that's closer to the truth than project serpos like Fucking hand in hand and let's go to Zeta reticuli and live on their planet for 13 years. Fair enough. Fair enough Sure fucking crazy to me, but it's a hilarious story and I love it
Starting point is 01:21:01 That wraps up this week boys. We're off to go to a mini-sode. Next week, we talk something that's a lot more potentially real. The Travis Walton abduction is one of my favorite just scenarios. There's like five people involved. It's not just one guy. It's a fascinating story. And the movie's worth a watch. Should they watch it before or after? Yeah. I mean, either or you don't need to watch it at all. In fact, if you'd rather get the actual story first, listen to the podcast, then you'd rather get the actual story first, listen to the podcast, then watch the movie, because the movie obviously fictionalizes some things for the sake of entertainment.
Starting point is 01:21:31 So yeah, up to you, but you can do either one. But that's it, thank you guys again. We will see you next week. We appreciate it, we love you. Goodbye. Bye. Bye. Anyway, me and my wife were sitting outside
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