Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 250 - Project Serpo
Episode Date: May 19, 2024Mike, Alex and Jesse head back into the world of totally real and not made up at all secret government projects, this one about a Grey Alien Exchange Student Program. MERCH - http://www.theyetee.com.../collections/chilluminati Special thanks to our sponsors this episode - All you lovely people at HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Talkspace Stamps.com Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Art Commissioned by - http://www.mollyheadycarroll.com Theme - Matt Proft
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Hello everybody and welcome back to the Chiluminati Podcast episode 250 boys episode 250 we made
as always I'm one of your hosts Mike Martin joined by the Klaatu and Helen of LA Jesse
and Alex.
Klaatu and Helen?
Yeah.
I feel like a Klaatu.
I think I'm a Klaatu.
From the day the earth stood still?
You got it butter butter butter. Butter? I think that's From the day the earth stood still. You got it butter, butter, butter.
Butter? Just call me butter?
I think that's what I was hoping to hit out.
You got it butter.
You got it butter. I'm just in Texas too long.
Cause I want to spread you all over my toast.
Oh my God. Happy episode 250, my new nickname.
That's just Alex from now on.
I hope that just takes over Alex.
Like I hope I'm just butter Fosciani now.
We're just gonna call you butter from now on.
Yeah.
Because you so smooth.
Yeah.
And creamy.
Alex butter.
You gotta hit that like foghorn leg horn that.
And you melt when hot.
Yeah.
Melt so nicely all over my buns.
White bread.
If I'm being real, I'm duck fat. I'll just let that.
I'll just let that land. I don't really know.
Do you spread duck fat on toast? Yeah, no, I do.
He's grossed out, but I do.
I really do. I don't know if I would like that.
What does it taste like? It tastes like a better version of butter, bro.
There's lots. Look, there's like a better version of butter, bro.
There's lots, look, there's lots of different kinds of mysteries out there.
Let's put it that way.
There certainly are.
There's lots of different kinds of mysteries out there and you should try DuckFat on toast.
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something it was like very exciting. Yeah, it was some kind of paranormal barbecue
vacation. I don't know. It was in the range of travel and or owning a house. Yeah, it was like
one of those. Yeah, one of those things. Yeah. I'm gonna have to interrupt for a second and say,
I need to step up. I see ants on my floor and I'm on the second floor of my house. So I just need
to figure out where the fuck they're coming from. My man's got an infestation.
No, there's like it's not like a fuck ton.
I see like three or four and I can see a little trail and
they're going into my closet, which has zero food.
So I don't know cinnamon up those holes keep selling Patreon
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just by supporting us with your money. I don't have ants.
Jesse doesn't have ants. He lives in a great, he lives like by the water. It's very ant unfriendly.
It's very salty over there. Not a lot of stuff for ants. I'm
going to stay on this topic until we find out whether or not
math is his house is infested with ants. He is gone from
sight. I see his he has left. I only image that I see right
now pajamas. What is that? The only thing I see in his room is
a giant UFO poster and the're coming in the window, motherfucker.
Hang on.
Okay.
They're, oh, he's, he went, he's gone.
They're coming in the window.
It feels like-
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They have heard inside, he's got the good sugar
and they're trying to get in there.
Send them in up that boy's holes.
Yeah. They have, they have heard the word is spread to the call back to the colony.
The Queen has a bloodlust for human flesh and Mathis is going to pay the tax.
She has decreed not a joke.
Mathis must be feasted upon.
Yeah, they're going to get the boy.
Those are the Scouts that two or three help us out.
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The real question is, are they ants or secret government drones sent to spy on
him because he knows too much.
Sometimes he makes me feel like I'm on the Muppet show in real life.
And then he uses the webcam screen as like, like a, like a, like a camera lens.
He came in, he like spun her at first.
He was wearing, he revealed first that
by coming into the background with his butt to us that he was wearing Santa pajamas.
And then he like did a spin around into the chair, picked up his headphone said they're coming in the
windows motherfucker and then spun out of the frame in the other direction just now came back.
I don't know what he's doing now. Walked by spun his chair 360 for no reason on the case went to the window
We can't see what's going on. Although I will say there does appear to be a giant hole in the wall
Yeah, do you see that? It's a perfectly circular. I don't know what that is. Is it cat something for cats?
I think it might be a cat home. I think it might be a cat home. I don't know what's going on there
He's really he's really got like a vibe going on right. He's now showing us ground cinnamon. He's got it. I cinnamon the window. All right.
Now hold on timeout timeout. So how you do it? Yeah, you did it. All right. What do you mean?
You cinnamon the window and I sprinkled cinnamon all along the edges and then I shut the window.
Yeah, that's perfect. Ants hate cinnamon. That's my old wives remedy that I got for you. You know, if you were
a real son of a bitch, you would go out and buy a shaker of cinnamon sugar and put it
on the windowsill. So those bastards would be like, let's go boys. And they'd all die.
That's the worst trap you could do. Does cinnamon kill them? No, they just. Oh, I don't know. I hate it.
I just think it'd be brutal to be like, you want this sugar?
That's like giving them like it's like giving them like a addictive drug
that will kill them.
That's spice. I think I got the scouts.
I think I caught it early because there's only a few of them.
And I like stomped on the ones that are well squished.
I'm glad you handled it.
And I hope that that was funny enough of a bit
that it stays in the episode.
If not, yeah, Dean gets to decide.
Dean gets to decide.
Dean gets to decide.
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I can't wait for the message. Just like they just stalled for so long and nothing was talked about.
Real episode starts at 3741. I don't actually even know what the topic is today, which is like.
No, none of you do. It's a great surprise for me. one. I don't actually even know what the topic is today, which is like,
no, no, none of you do. It's a, it's a great surprise for me.
Is the surprise that there is no topic and that you're just going to try to
episode two 50, we're not doing anything.
You're going to try and trick us into like not starting the show for as long as
possible with as many like weird things that happened around your house as
possible. That's like, oh, that's a great, like April fool's like thing to do.
Hold on. Sorry. My cats are having a war. Hold on. I'll be right back.
Got to go. Got to get up. Sorry. No, it's episode 250. And a bunch of stuff has happened in the
world of the UFO world. Many things that's really interesting, like the most recent thing with the,
what do you call it? Lou Elizondo and Greenwald Black of Black Vault, who's a guy who FOIA documents over 20 years basically,
and just stuffs them in the Black Vault online so you can go over them,
just kind of keeps them from public.
And the whole time he's always said that Luella Zondo's con man,
he's lying about ATIP, he's lying that he was never in charge of it,
all that, you know, that he was ever in charge of it.
And then a few days ago, Greenwald got in one of his FOIA requests,
an email from within the Pentagon,
some higher ups that not only mentioned Lou Elizondo as head of a tip,
but also Lou Elizondo handing over a tip to the next person who would take it
over, which was Tippedin, uh,
and confirming that he was going through all the right procedures to do so.
And so Greenwald has now sat with two separate Pentagon pieces of information
from the Pentagon
FOIA requested that say two totally different things. So one way or another, we know the
Pentagon's lying about Luella's on in one way that the emails are fake that he just got or
whatever, or the other things are lying. And then he got confirmed later on that day from the DOD
that that email that he got, he was not supposed to get. That was a slip up. That was not supposed to be given to him
by the FOIA, FOIA, whatever.
What's the legality on that?
If it's out, it's out?
It's too late now, yeah, it's out.
It's out there.
Yeah, that's their fucked up.
They fucked up.
It's out.
That's out there.
Wow, okay.
Nothing they can do about it now.
Oh my God.
It doesn't prove everything Lou has ever said is true.
That doesn't at all mean this, because Lou Elizondo has made some wild claims out there and I
do not necessarily believe, but does seem to add to the credibility that he was in fact
head of a tip and that he in fact did resign and hand it over to somebody like he had been
saying.
So it's just weird, crazy cool stuff like that.
And then quantum stuff, which we're going to talk about the mini so later this after this one about the warp drive kind of scientific
discovery, which is really cool.
But in, in, in celebration of that, we're doing back to back alien
episodes, they're not a part one and a part two, they're going to
be totally two separate topics.
This week is all about a topic that we've already kind of covered
in depth Roswell, but not Roswell specifically,
but the secret government project that followed Roswell
known as Project Serpo.
Are you boys at all familiar with Project Serpo?
Is this the folder and the filing cabinet
filled with alien stuff that was moved around
What?
since the 40s?
We kind of touched on it in Battelle
No, this came around 2005 from 40 anonymous emails that there's no way to prove are remotely true. Oh
Delightful. Let's all right
Buckle up. Yeah
It takes things that it starts in the story starts in the 40s
Of course, like it kind of starts way back.
We can even go all the way back to like the Thule Society and proto Nazi Germany.
And it kind of technically starts there.
But it's just like a long history that's not really relevant to anything,
anything that's actually happening here.
And then next week we'll have a special guest with us
that we'll be covering the Travis Walton abduction in depth next week.
So if you want to watch a movie that's related to that fire in the sky,
I believe it's what the movie is called. Yeah. Have you ever seen that?
I have seen bits of it, but I haven't seen the whole thing.
I watched it in college for some reason. I don't remember why.
That movie is based on the Travis Walton story.
And they made the abduction scenario as close to like,
as he described it as possible.
So it's like a really unsettling abduction scene, which is what I've basically seen of the whole thing.
So if you want that, that's going to be next week. It will have Aaron Hansen of the Game Grumps
joining us for that. He has a, he'll have like, he has like, I guess he's seen a UFO on the back
of a truck at some point in Florida. That's all I know. So let's go. We'll see what that's about.
I'm very excited. Let's go. Yeah.
So love a good personal story.
Yeah, I'm excited to see what that's about.
But this week is Project Serpo, all about Project Serpo.
And if you don't know what Project Serpo is, well, don't you worry.
I'm going to guide you through this incredibly real, totally factual,
not at all made up for some reason story that has basically two main sources.
The two main sources I'm using are a book called Secret Journey to Planet Serpo,
a True Story of Interplanetary Travel by Len Casten.
Planet Serpo, really?
Yeah, yeah, you got a problem with that?
The planet's called Serpo?
The planet is called Serpo.
You do have an issue?
It sounds like a lubricating oil from like 1936.
You had to go buy, yeah. A Serpo lubrication oil. They 1936. Had to go buy.
Yeah, they had to go buy to get to make your track.
Do you make your tractor fucking run or some shit?
I don't know.
Lube up your tractor made by Mengele's family at the time,
because they owned all that farm equipment back then.
Historically, lube up your Mengele brand tractor with Serpo oil.
Am I wrong? Is it not Mengele who had the family who owned and created all that farm equipment that
then had to like rename their farming equipment after not
like after World War Two? Oh, I literally I do not know. You're
saying that like I learned that the same time I learned about
World War Two. Like I have I don't know what that is. Yeah,
Mangala. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. He had a farm. That's exactly
what it is. He's farming his whole family and farming a queen like they had Yeah. Yeah. He had a farm. That's exactly what it is. He's a farming, he's like his whole family and farming a coin.
Like they had to like, that was their whole shtick.
That's not what we're talking about today. That I don't know.
We're talking today about project Serpo. Serpo is not an oil that you lubricated
your 1930s robot with. No project.
Serpo was an agreement between the U S government and an alien
government where we would send 12 of our best off the planet Serpo
for an industry for an amount of time which will get to where they would essentially be
like what do you call it?
What do you like?
Stargated like no like students like a trans transplant students.
Oh, like a like a like a exchange.
Yes, yes, like an exchange student.
That's pretty much the gist of Project Serpo.
So we'll get to it, because we're really not
starting in Project Serpo.
We're rewinding back to Roswell.
We're starting in New Mexico, 1947,
after the sun has dipped well below the horizon.
In the long shadows, quickly give way to night.
A rancher by the name of Mac Brazel
is making his rounds when he stumbles
upon a site that would forever change the course of history.
You should all remember this from the Roswell series, but he scattered across his sheep pasture amidst the tumbleweeds and cacti saw a wreckage of twisted metal and strange symbols.
It's unlike anything that he had ever seen before.
A technological marvel that seemed to defy explanation. The air crackled with an eerie energy and a sense of otherworldly
awe washed over him and amongst the wreckage were bodies,
beings that lied about.
Now, the word of the flying disk crash spreads quickly like wildfire
through the small town of Roswell.
Locals gather, whispering in hushed tones.
Newspapers launch articles before they are forced to correct the article by the government.
The military quickly arrives after a couple days, their demeanor tense is secretive, and
they cordon off the area, shooing away curious onlookers and confiscating any evidence that
they could find.
The official story, released to a skeptical public, claims it was a mere weather balloon
that had malfunctioned.
We're all very familiar with the story, and I think we all know that even if you don't believe as alien,
it might have just been a foreign piece of technology spying on us.
It definitely wasn't a fucking weather balloon.
Regardless of what the government said, though, the whispers persisted,
fueled by eyewitness accounts of unearthly materials, indecipherable markings,
and even rumors of alien bodies being whisked away under cover of darkness.
And then the shadows, a clandestine operation, is immediately set into motion following this crash.
The recovered debris is transported to a secret facility where scientists and engineers work
tirelessly to unravel its secrets and if you believe this is true are still trying to figure
that shit out to this day.
The truth, they discover, is far more extraordinary than anyone could have
imagined. This wasn't a weather balloon, but a spacecraft, a vessel from another world, and it
carries within it the potential to reshape our understanding of the universe and reality.
So this is from 2005?
Yes, the origin of the story is from 2005 from 40 emails anonymously sent to the individual who
put this all together essentially.
And they're still hitting us with the weather balloon
coverup story?
I genuinely don't know.
Yeah, I guess in 2005 they're talking about it for sure.
I don't know if that's the case still today.
I imagine it is.
I just got like a great idea for an episode of Chiluminati
that's just all about weather great idea for an episode of Chiluminati. That's just all about weather balloons.
Like an episode of-
Literally like an educational episode
about weather balloons and how exactly they work.
It should be about what weather balloons actually are
and all the things that people have said are weather balloons
and whether or not they could be weather balloons.
Okay. You know what?
Put that episode together and let me know when you're ready.
Yeah. I don't know why it's so common.
I mean, you would have to start with every conceivable type of weather balloon, when they were used,
how often they were used, how many existed, then where they were used. And if any were used in the
vicinity, like books have been written on the subject that like, good luck, buddy. Yeah, it
would be like a six or seven part of a two parter of an eight part cryptography.
Like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This would be no, this would be very straightforward.
No jokes about this.
Well, this would just be about weather balloons.
OK, no, if you say so.
After this 1947 crash, there was another 1949,
which we also talked about the crash at Corona.
It happened in 1949 when another mysterious object plummets to Earth,
this time near Corona, California.
The military response is even more secretive this time,
with the wreckage quickly whisked away to a hidden location.
That's not that far from here.
No. Oh, yeah. How is how far away is Corona from where you guys are in LA?
Yeah, it's like a little bit past Disneyland.
Yeah, like two hours.
That's actually not not even not even like an hour.
Yeah. OK. Yeah. You guys may be a man not accounting for traffic. We can totally. Yeah, that two hours. That's actually not not even not even like an hour. Yeah, okay
Yeah, you guys maybe this man not accounting for traffic. We can totally yeah, well, that's true. We could totally go there
That's cool. We should I mean, we'd probably be escorted off the military base very quickly, but it'd be cool to go
Yeah, we go to Miguel's and get a trash burrito at least. Oh, yeah, Brita. What do they call? I don't know
I didn't ever heard of it a trash burrito sounds good
besides
The government obviously trying to keep it secret.
Rumors obviously still leak out and whispers of another alien spacecraft, this one intact and containing living beings.
The government, of course, denied everything, but the seed of suspicion was already planted.
Two crashes in two years. And for a lot of people, this is hard to dismiss as a mere coincidence.
And behind closed doors, the government establishes a brand new project,
one shrouded in secrecy and fueled by a burning desire to understand these otherworldly visitors.
They call it, quote unquote, Project Gleam, a code name chosen to reflect the glimmer of hope
that this encounter could bring to humanity.
The aliens are held in a secure facility, their existence known only to a select few,
and scientists and linguists are working tirelessly to try and establish communication with the one living
being that they had been able to whisk away. Now, going forward known as EBE1. And what
they quickly learn when they finally able to make some sort of communication with him
is that while yes, he was part of the ship and knows how the ship works, he was actually
just an engineer and he has no idea why they were here at Earth at all.
He was just, he just survived the crash.
He was there to make sure the ship ran and then that's it.
So he had no good- So he was bad at his job is what you're saying.
Like he was actually- He's bad at his job and gave us no good information.
Right, right.
Yeah.
The aliens are, the bodies are also held in a secure facility and they're hoping to just try and unlock the secrets of this advanced technology and knowledge they'd suddenly had at
their fingertips. Is the story that this dude is EB? I'm gonna call him EB. Yeah, EB. EB-1.
Is EB still alive? We'll get to that but uh I okay we'll get to that. Just let the
story take you for a minute here. I'm letting I was just you pause this this story project Serpo as well is also
supposedly the in for this in the the true inspiration for Steven Spielberg's
Close encounters of the third kind and that he was directly involved with project Serpo and got access to documents of what actually
Spielberg yeah now
We do know he had a jail and Heineck with him and that he knew about project blue book
But apparently also knew about project Serpo.
So throw that in there.
So yes, in the depth of the secret facility, the lone survivor from the Corona cash crash
became known as EBE1 or EB1 as the alien was designated was a being of extraordinary intelligence
and resilience.
Despite the trauma of the crash and the strangeness of its surroundings, it seemed to very quickly adapt to its new reality at the clutches of human hands. I imagine we're
not keeping him in the most luxurious of confines, probably being kept in like a cube. Scientists and
linguists flocked to the facility, eager to communicate with this visitor from a supposedly
another star system. And at first, progress was slow. But E.B.
One, with its innate curiosity and desire for connection, proved to be a remarkably
cooperative subject through a series of intricate diagrams, gestures, and eventually a
rudimentary form of communication.
E.B.
One revealed a wealth of information about its home planet named Serpo.
It described a world both familiar and alien, a place of two.
Yeah, go ahead, Alex. Yeah, yeah. I just like the description. That's all. A world
both familiar alien makes me think of that Guardians of the Galaxy movie where it's like
suburban 80s earth, but they're just like animals. Yeah. Yeah. Hang on to that thought.
Minus the animals, minus the fact that it's all animals. So just just 1980s suburbia 1980s, you know, keep that in mind.
Yeah.
So yeah, they got the rudimentary language set up in he started
talking about Serpo.
They started learning about Serpo and like I said, both familiar
and alien has two sons unique flora and fauna in a civilization
far more advanced than humanity here on Earth.
EB1's cooperation, though, didn't stop there.
It provided insights into the advanced technology that we had recovered from the wreckage, explaining
the purpose of various devices, and even demonstrating how some of them worked.
It was like a crash course in alien engineering, you can think of it.
He was just fine.
He was totally fine just explaining of explaining how things work,
which, you know, you would think the government would have
maintained that knowledge in some way and, you know, applied
it to all the other things that they, you know, have supposedly
recovered and can't figure out if it's a secret baby
compartmentalization.
It's all part of the design, bro.
They're covering it up.
Yeah.
So he provide insight and advanced technology explaining
the purpose of various devices,
even demonstrating how some of them worked.
But perhaps the most significant revelation came when EB1 expressed a
willingness to facilitate further contact with his home world.
So he's like, yeah, we can, I can reach out. Yeah, I'll call home. No problem.
Let's chat. So it's, uh, EB1 spoke of an exchange program,
a chance for humans to visit SERPO and learn from its advanced civilization.
Do you see the end of close encounters of the third kind?
Yeah, no, I get it. Wait, so you know what? I'm gonna let you,
I'm gonna let you do this, but I right. All right. Sherpa Sherpa.
Pardon me.
Sherpa.
Pardon me once to ask you.
I'm a Sherpa. I'm your Sherpa.
Pardon me once to ask you, is this a thing that we're planning?
But pardon me also knows that you're about to say, it already happened.
And I hate that.
Damn right it already happened.
Damn right it already happened.
And I'm going to tell you all about it.
You know what?
You know what? I got yelled at on Reddit for blocking you and your story.
How dare you?
But right now I wanna say for the record, no fucking way.
Keep blocking me bro, it's part of the charm.
I need you to keep my ego in check.
I can't, no, I need to hear this.
I need to hear this nonsense.
We started with 40 emails
that there's no way to prove are true.
So yeah, yeah.
If you buy into this, you should probably go to the lands beyond the ice walls of Earth.
We have another one.
They bring another ship.
And you know what?
No, I'm going to shut up and let you go.
Go.
We're only at the part where he's willing to facilitate communication with his whole
planet.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay. Okay, okay. Okay? Okay. So yeah, it spoke of an exchange program,
a chance for humans to visit Serpo
and learn from its advanced civilization.
And this was a turning point,
a moment of unprecedented opportunity
for the human race as a whole.
The government initially hesitant
eventually did agree to the proposal.
They saw the potential benefits of such an exchange,
a chance to acquire new technologies,
expand their knowledge of the universe and perhaps even forge a peaceful
alliance with an extraterrestrial species.
The seeds of project Serpo were sown a bold and audacious endeavor that would
push the boundaries of human exploration and challenge everything that we
thought we knew about our place in the cosmos. And I even have like,
there's, we're not going to go through it all,
but there's like little journal entries that we supposedly got
pictures of.
I have a list of all the things they brought on their journey
for supplies as well that we'll talk about.
It's a really it's fun.
That's 1949.
This idea quickly takes place as they talk to E.B.
over about a year or two.
And now we're going to move to 1954, about five years after the second crash.
And in 1954, the Cold War casts a really like kind of new
ominous shadow over the world of another potential hot war.
But behind closed doors and the highest echelons of power, a
different kind of conflict is brewing, one that could alter
the course of human history forever.
President Dwight D.
Eisenhower,
a man known for his calm demeanor and strategic mind, finds himself facing a decision of
unprecedented magnitude. EB-1, the alien ambassador from Serpo, from I should probably tell you the
Zeta Reticuli system, of course, has extended an invitation for a human delegation. Yeah,
the planet Serpo is within the Zeta Reticuli system.
Jesse, you look very confused.
I'd like to help.
Is Zeta Reticuli the binary star system?
I'm going to look this up.
Yeah, yes, it is the binary.
Because remember, his planet has two stars.
So yes, that he reticulates the binary star system.
I feel like, I'm going to look this up to verify it.
But I feel like those are technically newer stars than the to verify it, but I feel like those are technically
newer stars than the sun.
Maybe I have no idea.
Actually, that's a good idea.
I wonder when we learned that too.
I just want to point out for the record, they're faster and better than us in this story.
They became a society faster, better and learn to travel faster than us.
Hey man, all it takes is a species not willing to bomb themselves out of existence every
20 years or so, you know
It might not take much if you where would humanity be if we weren't at war all the time, you know
What kind of fucking like pro war machine speech is this pro war machine?
War machine. It's an anti war machine. We'd be in so much further along without war
I'm saying that's why these guys are better than us because they might not have war
They might just be pure scientific beings.
I do have a lot of questions.
According to Wikipedia, Zeta Reticuli, 39 light years from Earth, and it has many asteroids,
but doesn't appear to have any planets.
Although the first alien and the movie Prometheus took place there.
So soft disclosure, baby.
So there you go.
Disclosure.
You think that planet with that naked white skinned, like marble statue,
like big giant nose, man. That was Serpo. I mean, well,
one of them was earth, I think, but I don't know. It doesn't matter.
For me, this is a great movie to get high and just watch the first half.
I've actually never seen Prometheus. Dude, let's do it on rotten popcorn.
That would be, I'd love to.
You get scared.
We owe Jesse a video.
Apparently we did not give him.
I don't want to watch that weird birthing scene.
I'm all right back to President Dwight D.
Eisenhower.
So yes, EVE is the alien ambassador from the Zeta reticular
star system has extended an invitation for a human delegation
to visit the home planet Serpo.
It's a gamble a leap of faith into the unknown,
but Eisenhower ever the visionary that he was,
sees the potential rewards outweighing the risks.
And in a clandestine meeting at Edwards Air Force Base,
you remember the rumor of we talked about Eisenhower going to meet an alien on
the Air Force Base before? This is that alien? This is one of the,
it's one of the explanations that this is what the same is
There's a there's also there's many different explanations and actually different he was a serp weegee
This is some say Eisenhower made this is where the contract was made where Greys could go and abduct alien
Abduct humans at an X number per year that they're supposedly breaking, but we can't stop them anyway
But this is another explanation as well for this. I was just saying
breaking, but we can't stop them anyway. But this is another explanation as well.
I was just saying, uh, that what if like,
you know, like how we were talking about how aliens like sometimes maybe are like a being that like we think what they are and then that's what we see them as.
Yeah. Yeah. What's that? That's from a sorry, those are the sorry mass effect.
Yeah. Like what if this, what if this, uh, story is like,
it's all one being, but it's like, everybody, everybody saw what they saw.
You know what I mean?
Like just.
How do you know your red is my red dude?
Yeah, exactly.
Maybe Eisenhower saw a Serpian dude
and maybe the guy watching them meet saw.
You think the Serpians are like your Serp-oans?
Serp-weegans.
Ooh, I like it, Serp-weegans.
Hopefully they don't get too mad about us calling them that.
In a clandestine meeting here at Edwards Air Force Base, Eisenhower and a select group
of advisors met with what they were now calling the Ebens.
E-B-E-N-S.
It's just kind of what they co-named them.
That's Ebens worse.
Incredible.
Incredible.
So they're there.
Oh yeah, so they're now the Ebens.
They're there with a delegation of even.
So Jesse, that answers your question.
He reached out to his planet.
They sent a ship with evens to arrive at the Air Force base
and meet with the president.
And now you might be asking, what do they look like?
Well, they look like what you expect them to look like.
They have large heads.
They're kind of short, large almond shaped eyes, slender bodies.
They exude an aura of just like intelligence. So your typical grace. They look kind of short, almond, large almond shaped eyes, slender bodies. They exude nor of just like intelligence.
So your typical grace, they look like your typical grace.
So this then goes against the common notion that grays are
subservient to tall whites. Correct. This is a totally
different take on what the grays are. And the only place in any
UFO like lore or history where this is how the degrés are described.
There's no other place that describes the grays like super nice and like come hang out on planet
Serpo. The negotiations are supposedly intense, the stakes for humanity are just very, very high,
but after hours of intense discussions, a tentative agreement is finally reached. The Eben's will provide the means for a small group of humans to travel to Serpo.
In return, the humans will share their knowledge of Earth's culture, technology, and history.
It's a cultural exchange, that exchange student situation.
A diplomatic mission that could pave the way for a new era of cooperation between two vastly
different civilizations.
But the risks are undeniable.
The journey to Serpo, 37 light years away, will be long and arduous.
The evens motives are still kind of unclear, and there's no guarantee of the astronauts'
safe return.
Yet Eisenhower believes the potential gains are too great to ignore.
So, the decision is made. Project Serpo is a go.
The government initiates a top secret program to select and train a team of astronauts
for this unprecedented mission.
They are chosen not just for their physical and mental fortitude,
but also for their diverse skill sets and unwavering curiosity.
We're talking scientists, engineers, linguists and soldiers,
all united by a shared sense of adventure and a thirst for knowledge.
The training is rigorous and demanding, supposedly pushing them to the human limits of endurance.
The astronauts learn to adapt to a simulated alien environment that they've built for
them, grapple with complexities of even language and culture like a prep program, and prepare
for the unknown challenges that will await them when they finally do land on this distant world.
When you say language and culture, is the implication then that
instead of the aliens that are like, I'm talking to you in your brain,
these dudes mouth move and they're like, hey, it's me even one.
Yeah.
Well, there's a little bit of vocal, but there's a lot of
telepath stuff, like a lot of they'll touch their heads
and like images will happen.
But they-
How do you train that then?
They, I don't fuck, dude, I don't know.
What do you put them in a room with an EB, EB man
and let them just like touch the head?
I guess I could be, like you don't have a linguist then.
But they also, remember, there is a written language
and like a vocal language as well that they were taught.
Like, cause that's part of leaving just like, I don't know.
How do you teach somebody?
I'm sure somebody who listens to our podcast can answer the
question. How do I, how do you teach somebody telepathy?
Just let us know. It's eliminate pod at gmail.com.
I mean, if you could, it would have been done already.
I'm just saying,
or they're being kept secret from the,
from us by the government for our own.
Something I couldn't get.
I couldn't think of anything.
I mean, you almost you were working on it.
Yeah, man.
My brain.
I saw it.
I saw it.
I saw it.
And bro is pushing.
Yeah.
So the decision made project surplus going.
They've got, yeah, all those groups of people, engineers, linguists, scientists, soldiers
and the training of their both to let telepathic communication, physical communication.
We're talking to also just endurance tests, all that stuff.
And as the launch date finally approaches,
a sense of anticipation and trepidation fills the air.
The world remains oblivious to the monumental event
about to unfold, unaware that a group of ordinary humans
are about to embark on an extraordinary journey,
one that will forever alter our understanding
of our place within the universe.
And they also started calling this project also project crystal
night, but we will continue to refer to it as project circle
for now.
But it's another code name that they layered on top of it
is project crystal night or K and K and I.
You know what?
I like it.
Yeah, that's cool.
All right.
All right.
It's like a comic book now, too.
Absolutely. Yeah. All right. With the green light from the highest office in the land,
the covert gears of Project Serpo began to turn.
The task was monumental to prepare a dozen humans for a journey into the unknown,
a voyage that would test their limits and challenge their perceptions of reality.
The military combed through its ranks, seeking individuals who possess not only the physical and mental fortitude of
astronauts,
but also the intellectual curiosity and adaptability of explorers, scientists,
engineers, linguists, medical professionals,
and even a few soldiers with specialized skills were handpicked for this
extraordinary mission. And trading began in a secluded facility,
hidden away from prying eyes. It was a crash course in the bizarre and the unfamiliar.
The astronauts in training dubbed the SERPO 12 delved into the intricacy
of even language and don't shake your head, even language and culture.
Their days filled.
It's true.
Days filled with strange vocabulary drills, simulated social interactions.
Can you imagine that being put in a room and there's like,
there's a couple of humans just dressed up as aliens,
and they're like, okay, in this social situation, this guy spilled his drink,
and you accidentally farted and get farting on the planet can get you killed.
How are you going to get out of it? And I don't know.
Maybe it's like an improv situation.
Can it get you killed? Like we don't even farting on the planet can get you killed.
I'm practicing my improv.
The implication they have butts is also new to me.
True, true. They shouldn't have.
I don't think they have. They're not supposed to have.
They shouldn't have butts.
They're not supposed to have butts. Yeah.
That's common gray knowledge.
Why did they use the name Serpo if they were going to like
you repeat it so often?
It's just such a bummer.
The Serpo 12, they can be called like the chosen.
The Crystal Knights do exactly. That's what I was going to say. be called like, the Chosen. The Crystal Knights, dude! Exactly!
That's what I was going to say, they could just call them the Crystal Knights.
Exactly!
Done!
But no, they're the Serpo-12.
Is Final Fantasy soft disclosure?
I think it might be!
Oh my god!
Fuck!
So yeah, they get to delve into the intricacies of even language and culture, doing those
simulated social interactions,
and even attempts to decipher their enigmatic writing system. Physical conditioning was equally
intense as the astronauts prepared for a gravity environment different from Earth's in an atmosphere
with a unique composition. They spent hours in centrifuges, accumulating their bodies to the
g-forces they would experience during space travel. They practice wearing bulky pr- don't, don't. You got a problem? The science checks out,
Jesse. You got a problem? That's how science works. I mean, I guess I have a question about
the Serpian's space travel capabilities. Yeah. Is this- Hang on to that thought. You know
what? I'm going to be honest. What I love about this is it's so completely like every other space travel is like we got
aboard spaceship and we blasted off into space and it was like we were barely moving and
suddenly another world.
This one's like no dude.
G forces.
Yeah, that's how you know it's really sick.
That's why you know those 40 anonymous emails were from a true source.
He mentions G forces.
They also practice wearing bulky protective suits designed to shield them from Serpo's
harsh radiation.
But the most challenging aspect of the training was the psychological preparation.
The astronauts knew that they were venturing into the unknown, a world filled with unfamiliar
sights and sounds and sensations.
So they had to learn to trust their instincts, adapt to unforeseen circumstances, and maintain
their composure in the face of the unknown.
Through it all, a sense of camaraderie and shared purpose grew among the Serpo-12.
They were a team, bound together by a mission that transcended national borders and earthly
concerns.
They were the pioneers of a new frontier, the first humans to step foot on another world.
I can't imagine being one of the Serpo-12.
I'd probably be trying to ask them to change it to the Crystal Knights though.
The Serpo 12, dude.
I think if this is real, I think-
Like there's the Majestic 12?
The Majestic 12 sounds way cooler.
Yeah, way cooler.
But that's because it's like-
And that's been around since the 80s.
Yeah, the Serpo 12 is like-
Serpo 12 is 05.
It's almost copying it.
It's kind of lame, yeah.
So yeah, they got a bound by camaraderie doing a, get to do this new frontier.
And as the training intensified, so did the excitement anticipation.
The launch date drew closer and the world remained blissfully unaware of the
extraordinary endeavor about to unfold.
The Serpo 12, the chosen few, stood on the precipice of history, ready to embark
on a journey that would redefine humanity's place.
Now, the year is 1965. We push forward a good 10 years, or a good like 12 years rather. The world
is a powder keg of political tension with the Vietnam War escalating and the Cold War threatening
to boil over. But in a remote corner of the United States, a secret mission is about to launch after
12 years of preparation.
One that will change the course of human history in the SERPO-12, the hand-picked team of astronauts
have completed their grueling training.
Why did it take so long?
12 years?
I can imagine, dude, training to go live on another planet that's just genuinely alien,
it's radiation everywhere, you have to learn a language, social customs, all kinds of shit.
But 12 years is a long time to that's why they call it the
Serpo 12, bro.
Never mind.
I'm back in.
I'm back in yet.
These guys all hand-picked have completed their training.
They're as prepared as they can be for the journey ahead, which
would be a 10-month voyage to a planet orbiting a binary star system.
37 light years away, Serpo, the home planet of the even.
So there you go, Jesse.
It's going to take 10 months for them to fly 37 light years
with the technology that was given to them by the EV, the
evens, you know what the phrase you said before, similar yet
alien or whatever you said is exactly what I described this
Everything you're saying is like your brains like okay. I get it, but yeah, it's it's totally different from every
What's insane to me is all the other alien things we've talked about
When I hear this story, I'm like well this can't be real because all the other alien things we've talked about which is making my mind
hurt I like, well, this can't be real because of all the other alien things we've talked about, which is making my mind hurt. I have broken you, Jesse. It's happened six years in your
brains. Like, well, that can't be real because all these other alien things are the really
because all these other alien stories. Yeah. You didn't even know it happened, man. I did.
You got me. This is a long con. You got 250. I special, baby. It was a special day today.
I'm going to write this in my diary later.
Here's your diary.
Jesse accidentally admitted his brain thinks aliens are real.
Only the kind that sounds real as opposed to the fantasy ones.
Right.
The kind that is so futuristic.
Like the problem with this is it seems so of the time that instead of being like they
traveled through a wormhole and they ended up in the...
It was like, no, no, no. They blasted at high G force for 10 months. That's crazy.
So lasted at high G force. So 12 years of training made sense. So yes, excitement, apprehension,
all mingling in the air as the launch dates around the corner, the astronauts clad in
their silver spade suits, bid farewell to their families and loved ones. They know they're embarking on a one-way trip
for X amount of time, which we'll get to in a second,
a journey into the unknown with no guarantee of return,
even if they even say they will be returned.
And their sense of duty and thirst for knowledge, though,
outweighs all their fears.
And in the dead of night, under a blanket of stars,
the Eben spacecraft ascends upon the designated landing site
and it's a site to behold.
Again, this apparently is another the inspiration for Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
It's a gleaming silver disk that seems to defy gravity as it hovers silently above the ground.
The astronauts board the craft, their hearts pounding with anticipation,
and the spacecraft's interior is supposedly unlike anything they've ever seen.
It's sleek and minimalist with no visible controls
or instruments.
The evens with their serene expressions
and gentle demeanor quote unquote,
guide the astronauts to their seats.
And with the gentle hum, the spacecraft lifts off,
leaving behind the familiar world of Earth.
The astronauts gaze out the porthole windows
as the planet shrinks to a tiny blue marble
and then disappears altogether.
They are now alone,
hurtling through the vastness of space on a mission that will test their courage,
their resilience and their faith in humanity's potential. Uh, two things.
Before we move on,
I do have a list of supplies that earth sent them with to take on their journey
to, uh, the new planet. Secondly, something that for some reason, I guess they never thought to ask because
it kind of becomes apparent to them later.
They don't know how long they're going for.
They just said for a time or let's go and they would be swapped back.
How long do you think they were there for?
I mean, a 10 month trip.
Other than the 10 months, how long were they on planet planet Serpo? I'm going to say based on the 12 year investment plus 10 month trip.
At least minimum five, six, eight years. I think days. I
think days we got two extremes, five to eight years, days, and
they were like 12, 12 years. And all right, it was a nice
weekend visit. Go home. No way. Let's see. Let's go.
We'll see what the answer is.
30 days.
First and foremost, I've got a list of supplies.
I'm not going to go through all of them.
Obviously, it's a huge, huge list, but this was submitted to the email network on April
3rd, 2006 by Anonymous as Posting 18, which I imagine means 18th of the 40 that he eventually
got with the following message which was attached to the person who received it, Victor,
the following information pertains to the equipment our team took to planet
Serbo. All of the military equipment was real, at least back then.
And by real anonymous, evidently means that it was operational. Like it worked.
Evidently the information was included in the debriefing documents.
So first and foremost, they got to bring a bunch of music, baby.
They brought a fuck ton of music.
We got things like Elvis Presley, Buddy Holly, the Kingston Trio,
Brenda Lee, the Beach Boys and Bob Dylan, the Beatles.
All of these are the Bing Crosby, Dinah Shore, as well as some classical music
like Mozart, Handel, Bach, Schubert, Mendelosson, Rossini, Strauss, Beethoven, Brahms, Chopin,
Tchaikovsky, and Vivaldi.
And obviously they brought patriotic United States music
as well, and Christmas music.
Why Christmas music?
Is it like just, was it supposed to be like the best
of what we have?
Like I understand like some of the best composers.
I understand, I just don't understand the Christmas music.
Is it like weird?
I don't know, there's no any other holiday music in there. Yeah, don't understand the Christmas music. Is it like weird? I don't know.
There's no any other holiday music. Yeah.
Why do we pick Christmas? That's a weird vibe to me.
I don't know why that's the vibe. That's that Simon and Garfunkel.
That makes sense.
Everybody loves trying to bring them seek like this is a covert
Jesus operation.
We're trying to like, is this like some missionary?
I don't know, man.
They also brought there's other the last three things for music.
They brought Indian chanting music, Tibetan chants and African chants.
These last three for the intended benefit of the even hosts, it says in parentheses,
which I don't know what the fuck that even means.
Then they brought clothing, a bunch of clothes.
Obviously we're talking obviously their space suits, 220 pairs of socks, 18 hats, 112 pairs of underwear.
Just to give you an idea of how specific the list is.
And it's like a long list.
And then a bunch of fabric for repair and stuff.
Then they got metal equipment, portable x-ray machine,
a hundred pre-packed medical kits for advanced trauma care,
1,200 food testing kits,
because they don't know what kind of food
they're going to have after they've run out.
Yeah, they brought two years worth of food, by the way.
That's about all they brought
was about two years worth of food. 10 months way. Like that's about all they brought was about two years worth of food.
10 months journey. They knew they had a 10 month journey there and back.
So why only two years of food giving them four months of extra food
makes no sense to me. I don't get it. Where would they store it?
If the ship was the alien ship, how big was like the big, big silver disk,
like a big silver disk in the fridge in the frie. I mean, look, yeah. Okay.
It must have been a big disc.
Here's the thing. Also important to know, like these ships,
there's something about them that's like they're bigger on
the inside than the outside.
There's like when we that specific to this story, though,
you can't just add other alien lore when we've already gone
against alien. I'm calling you on this. No, no,
it doesn't go against it. I think Lazarus has mentioned it before, but it's in another a few
others where like they can go into the ship, humans go into the ship and they, if they don't
immediately feel nauseous, they slowly become nauseous. And there's like the inside is just
spatially bigger than the outside of the ship. I understand what you're saying. Yeah. And that's in reference to previous alien lore. This is
an entirely new story with no evidence that it's bigger on
the inside. That's what they say. They got sick when they
would go on the ship and it's bigger on the inside. That's
what that's these people said that yes, but I'm not giving
you the entire book. I'm cutting off a lot of shit. So like,
yeah, okay. This is bigger on the inside and they got to
bring all this shit the even on their even ship. And again,
the when people would go on these ships, they would get nauseous because it's just
like something about it being bigger.
Maybe they move into like a parallel pocket dimension.
I don't know.
That's like a D&D thing as far as I'm concerned.
They've got testing equipment there.
You're talking like geological testing equipment, chemistry testing equipment, radiation, military,
biology, all kinds of shit.
You've also got miscellaneous stuff like blankets, weather balloons.
I don't know. They gave them 50 military weather balloons. I don't know why.
See what I'm saying about the weather balloons. There's something going on.
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They also were sent with 24 military handguns, 24 military M 16s, six M sixes to M forty grenade launchers to military
sixty millimeter motor tubes of 30 rounds a hundred military
air burst flares five thousand rounds of point two to three
ammunition for the M16 five hundred rounds of forty five
ammo and a bunch of other fucking shit tanks of nitrogen
gas and miscellaneous gases for cutting equipment oxygen these
dudes they equipped these 12 people for war.
And I also don't, I guess if they get there
and the Eben's decide to kill them,
but I'm like, you think the Eben's would understand
that they're bringing military equipment
because it's like, yeah.
They drop them there, yeah.
It's weird, it's very, very weird.
I don't understand.
They also sent them with 75 military-style sleeping bags again
There's only 12 people does that just mean like shitty. That's a good question
I guess that's a question for military listeners as a military-style sleeping bag
Good or bad you would imagine have to be good because it would need to be able to handle whatever temperature
The soldier has to sleep in I don't know. Yeah, so there's that they also sent them
This is where I even I was like, all right, dude. They sent them with vehicles, 10 military style combat motorcycles, three military M one five one jeeps, three military trailers.
This literally is Stargate is what this is. This is literally where where do they store the fuel? Where's the fuel? Oh, they got sent with 1500 gallons of fuel for all of the above
items. Bullshit.
That's it.
No bullshit.
How big are on the inside is this thing?
Dude, they also got one military lawnmower.
What is that?
What is that?
You know, you got to get there and they got it. They're going
to make their very first HOA on even, and they're going to go there and Serpo the hell
out of that place. Great. Good stuff. Serpo. But the last of this is they got food, about
two years of food. We're talking sea rations, 25 prepack containers,
a thousand gallons of water, 150 military survival food kits,
16 boxes of various alcoholic wines,
gum, candy, blah, blah, blah.
And then the last bit on the list,
it just says miscellaneous items.
The team members took 2,000 pounds of various other items
that are just not listed.
So, you know, couldn't tell you.
Other cool things that we got, though, is we actually have
specific numbers about Planet Serpo now.
All kinds of things.
In the third email, it was sent that the statistics of the Eban planet
was collected by the team, and this is the data that was given.
It's not a lot.
The planet itself is 7,218
miles in diameter. It's 5.06 times 1024 in mass. I imagine weight. We've got the distance
from both at suns 96.5 million miles and 91.4 million miles because the binary star system.
Two moons surface gravity is 9.6 m per second meters per second I imagine.
How is what's ours?
9.8 so it's two less nine yeah there's 9.6 so it's theirs is just a little less than
ours. Their rotation period so a day is 43 hours for them and an orbit around their binary
star system takes 865 of their day days.
The tilt is 43 degrees, temperature minimum 43 degrees with a maximum of 126.
Distance from Earth 38.43 light years, planet name Serpo. So there's a basic rundown of the
planet itself. So now you know it's definitely real now. Yeah, definitely real. So, uh, yeah, they got a literal like
fleet of vehicles, military, like, like just fucking arms armed to the teeth for 12 people.
It's crazy. Yeah, they're inside the ship at this point. They're humming around in space
and they're on their way their 10 month journey off the planet to Serpo. The journey to Serpo
was unlike anything the astronauts had experienced in their training simulations. The even spacecraft powered by an unknown energy source traveled
at a speed that defied conventional physics. Time seemed to warp and bend around them.
The stars outside blurring into streaks of light, which is just hyperspace from Star
Wars.
I'm into that. That should be real. I'm glad to hear that's real. You know, I bet you, yeah, if you do have to do, like, yeah, they would have to blur, I
would imagine. After what felt like an eternity, the spacecraft began its descent toward Serpo.
As they peered through the porthole windows, the astronauts were greeted by a sight that took their
breath away. Serpo was a world of stark contrasts, the vast desert stretching towards
towards towering mountain ranges, two suns, one larger and brighter than the other hung in the sky, casting a perpetual twilight glow over the landscape.
And the spacecraft landed softly on a vast plane, kicking up a cloud of dust.
The astronauts eager to explore this new world, donned their protective suits and
stepped out onto the alien soil. The air was thin and dry, the gravity slightly lighter than Earth's, but the most striking
aspect was the light, which was a constant subdued glow that bathed everything in an
ethereal luminescence.
The evens, who had remained silent during the journey, for 10 months the evens didn't
fucking say anything by the way.
They fucking dead silent.
What does that even mean? I don't know how I feel like I would go insane.
Yeah, like what?
Wait, they had to start.
They had 12 of them.
The 12.
So they did the 12.
So they existed, but the evens were just did their things
and kind of ignored them.
They the evens that that flew the shit were supposed to guide
them. The evens that that flew them from Earth to Serpo
essentially just stayed quiet the whole journey.
Oh question.
Then did EB1 stay on Earth?
No, he went home, but he didn't say nothing to the people that he convinced to go with it. I
Apparently not so I I imagine maybe if I was one of the the Crystal Knights, I would have been
Freaked out this guy was like, yeah, come on. We're taking back to our planet
Then maybe you get that's what it'd be like if I said hey guys
Let's go get lunch and then we got in my car and I was silent the entire time.
I just drove you in a direction you didn't know.
The other thing too, is like publicly the government dissolved their public
identities of the team members so that like they were just going by three digit
numbers for a very long time. And that was known as being sheep dipped. Um,
so all the members were sheep dipped.
That's a good phrase.
Which is very bizarre.
Again, there's a lot of weird things in prep
that are kind of just like, the book is long.
If you want to read Secret Journey to Planet Serpo,
it's about 300 pages and there's a lot in there.
And it starts with like Nazi bases
and like project paperclip taking them on and all that shit.
But it's like,'s it's insane.
They also talk about in the memo that they learn of an interesting
incident that occurred after the aliens have been taken away.
The military tribal team decided to enter the craft.
Remember I told you that they walked in and felt like sick when they walked in.
Yeah. One person described very specifically that when they stepped into the
spacecraft, it felt like they were on a rocket ship to hell.
What the hell does that even even mean like it got hot.
It just like they know just like it was they didn't feel good.
I don't know. I don't know what it means.
That's just what he said.
I just thought it was an interesting quote that I forgot to tell you.
And I wanted to tell you. That's all I got on that.
There's no details. He doesn't. He does not extrapolate.
He doesn't go further on any of that shit.
So they're on Serpo. Yeah, I couldn't find it very quickly
what I was looking for. So oh well. Yeah. So these guys who
remained mostly silent. I stayed silent on the journey.
If EB1 was there, I would imagine maybe spoke to them. I
would hope he did regardless as they step out of this out of
the spacecraft. They greeted the the evens greeted the
astronauts with a series of clicks and whistles their faces
conveying a mixture of curiosity and warm welcoming. Boys can you give me a rendition of what you think
that sounded like put you on the spot. All right.
One is just chewing tobacco.
I was trying to do weird ASMR, but like that's the best I got.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A little munching noise. All right. Well, that is,
I hope everybody who's listening to this feels like they just stepped on the planet circle themselves that they're, I love you guys. Thank you.
The human team armed with their rudimentary understanding of the even language
responded in kind,
their voices echoing across a rather barren landscape where the ship had landed.
The Edmonds led the astronauts to a nearby settlement,
a cluster of low-lying buildings carved into the rock, and the architecture was noted as simple yet
elegant, blending seamlessly with the natural environment. The interior of the dwellings was
surprisingly comfortable, with soft furnishings and a warm, inviting atmosphere. And over the
next few days, the astronauts began to explore their new home. They ventured out into the
surrounding desert, marveling at the strange planet life that
thrived in the harsh conditions.
And they observed the evens going about their daily routines, their movements graceful and
efficient, which is the exact opposite of how they described in every other encounter
with the gray, where they're robotic and awkward.
I just think of Betty and Barney Hill when the alien didn't know what to do, the gray
didn't know what to do with the zipper on her dress and it was just like awkwardly like just vexed.
Yeah.
The astronauts even got to sample the local cuisine, a strange concoction of unfamiliar
flavors and textures was all we really got out of it.
It was a time of for them, they were in the honeymoon period.
It's wonder and discovery, overwhelming, a chance to witness a civilization that had
evolved along a completely
different path than humanity's. The astronauts were filled with a sense of awe and humility,
realizing that they were mere guests in this alien world eager to learn and understand its secrets.
The initial wonder of arrival soon gave way to the realities of living on an alien world, however.
The astronauts, despite their rigorous training, found themselves facing a multitude of challenges.
First, the thin atmosphere made breathing difficult and the
constant exposure to the binary sun's radiation required them
to wear protective suits whenever they ventured outside.
That fucking sucks.
The 43 hour Serpo day disrupted their circadian rhythms really
badly, leading to sleep disturbances and disorientation in
the food while nutritious was bland and unappetizing causing digest.
Surely 10 months in space would have changed any circadian rhythm they had.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's the fair fair. Sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt.
I there's so much that I'm like holding back right now.
I don't know. Let it let it. There's other me's holding me back,
but please continue. You would think it did, but I wonder maybe the ship was
like tailored to be to the comfort of humanity so that
when those, you know, when they took them on, they didn't,
you know, weren't immediately.
That explains why the aliens weren't talking.
They were pissed off.
Like we got 10 months of this bullshit.
Ten months of this goddamn nonsense.
I get it now.
I get it.
Never mind.
Yeah.
So the 43 hour day threw him off.
The food was bland and gross.
And despite the even friendly demeanor, communication remained a barrier,
hindering their ability to fully understand the alien culture.
However, the astronauts persevered, driven by the curiosity and determination.
And they established a routine dividing their time between exploring
the surrounding area, learning the even language and documenting their observations.
They set up a makeshift laboratory, analyzing soil samples, studying plant life,
and even attempting to communicate with local fauna.
Over time, they began to make progress.
Their language skills improved,
allowing them to engage in a more meaningful conversation
with the Ibens, and they discovered
underground water sources,
easing their concerns about hydration.
They even managed to cultivate a few earth crops,
adding much needed variety to their diet.
As their understanding of Serpo grew, so did their fascination with the Eben's way of life. They observed a society that
was communal, peaceful, and technologically advanced. The Eben's had no concept of money
or social hierarchy, instead value and cooperation and harmony. Yes, Jesse?
Dude, I wasn't going to say nothing. You stopped yourself. I'm going to get a message, Jesse,
keep interrupting his flow. No, no, this is me. I'm letting you. I'm inviting you.
I just want to just put out there to any scientist. We have a lot of actually really get a message, Jesse, you keep interrupting his flow. No, no, this is me. I'm letting you. I'm inviting you.
I just want to just put out there to any scientist.
We have a lot of actually like really smart people.
Listen, I just want to ask this question.
So thankful.
Thank you for keeping us in check.
In a world where you are double sun radiated to the point where you can't
go outside without a suit, how and where do you grow earth crops?
Just going to put that out there. That's my question that I have to ask. where do you grow earth crops? Just going to put that out there.
That's my question that I have to ask.
How do you grow earth crops?
That's it.
I'll leave it at that.
I'll leave it at that. The sun, bro.
The sun just does it.
Two suns.
Sun glasses. Highly radiated.
That's like a bonus in a video game.
Just put sunglasses on the seeds, bro.
Gotcha.
Okay. Yeah.
Blue light filter.
Calm down.
Maybe radiation won't affect it.
Gunners. But then aren't you eating radiated plants? Look, I just well, they're technologically advanced.
Okay. And they did set up a temporary lab.
So maybe they were growing the food in the lab where it was away from the sun.
Yeah, like Matt Damon in the Martian when he pooped in the potato, right?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Exactly like that.
They were figuring this out. He did that.
That was real. That was real.
A hundred percent. Yeah. Over time. They were making progress language. He did that. That was real. That was real. A hundred percent.
Yeah, over time, they were making progress language skills
improved allowing them to engage with the evens more.
They got water, etc.
And as there's this understanding of Serpo grew, so
did their fascination with the evens way of life.
They observed the society that was communal peaceful and
technologically advanced.
The evens had no concept of money or social hierarchy.
Their technology will not always comprehensible to the
humans was clearly far more advanced than anything on Earth. The astronauts witnessed marvels that defy
their understanding, transportation devices that levitated effortlessly, energy sources that
harness the power of their suns, and medical instruments that could heal injuries and diseases
with astonishing speed. They were given access to the Eben's vast libraries filled with knowledge
that spanned millennia
Despite the challenges though the astronauts felt a growing sense of connection to this alien world and its inhabitants
They learned to appreciate the even simple yet profound wisdom with their respect of for nature and their unwavering commitment to peace
They began to see Serpo not just as a mission objective
But as a second home that's the place where they could learn and grow as individuals
and as a species.
Like Avatar.
Yeah, that's nice.
However, their time on Serpa was not without its tragedies.
Two of the astronauts that went on the journey
ended up dying.
One, as far as where it seemed like it was just an accident,
like they were working on a piece of machinery
and they just kind of got an accident.
The other one got sick and was unable to recover
and they died, which makes no sense
because they did say that they have medical things
that could heal diseases and injuries very easily,
but maybe humanity is, you know,
human biology is not what their ship's built for.
Yeah, so they lost two astronauts to this journey
and it was a stark reminder to them of the
risk that they had undertaken.
But even in grief, they found strength and they honored their fallen comrades, vowing
to continue their mission and bring back the knowledge that they had gained to Earth.
They knew that their journey was not just about the exploration, but the constant thing
they looked to, which is a brighter future for our species.
As time passed, they realized they weren't sure how long they were supposed to be here.
Days turned to weeks, weeks turned to months, months turned to years, five years, eight years, ten years.
Stop.
What the hell?
And it wasn't until 13 years of living on Serpo.
One more year.
Would they finally go home?
Yeah, one more year.
What made them, what made them, what are they going to do?
What made them say now we're going home?
Well, it just seemed like that was the time, that wasn't their choice.
The Eben's were the ones that were like, okay, you're done.
I just go home.
Because they said you were going to do an exchange for a period of time. They re they didn't get a period of time.
And then evens are just when they, they said that was enough.
Like you were here enough. They took them back to earth.
So the evens, the evens on earth stayed here for 13 years. No, no, no, no, no.
The evens went back with the Serpo. The earth, the people from earth lived on
Serpo for 13 years. And then after 13 years, the evens are like, okay,
time to go back. People on earth had no idea if they would come back.
They were not in commune.
Is that how long we had EB-1?
No, EB-1 left with them and went back to Serpo.
No, no, but I mean, like, how long do we hold EB?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm trying to like, was it 13 years?
It was 11 years for EB-1.
They was with us for 11.
From the crash to 19, no, he was with us for longer than that.
Hang on, he was crashed in 1949.
Project Serpa was five years after that.
And then they did 12 years or 11 years of training.
So he was with us for about 17 years.
I mean, all right, like,
I guess it really doesn't matter in the end.
I'm curious why they were like time to go.
Wait, so two people, maybe a person died
and they were like, you guys gotta go home. Maybe, yeah, maybe the deaths were like died and they were like, you guys got to go home. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe the
deaths were like, even it's like you guys have to leave now.
But apparently the evens had grown fond of their human visitors,
but were preparing to send them out with a farewell ceremony
filled with bittersweet emotions. The astronauts, their
hearts heavy with both gratitude and longing exchange gifts
and promises of future contact with their alien hosts.
And after a long ceremony, they boarded the ship, what was rest of the Serpo 12, and began
their 10-month journey back home.
The even spacecraft once again defined the laws of physics to traverse the vast difference
between the two worlds in a matter of months.
The astronauts, weary but exhilarated, watched as the familiar blue marble of Earth grew larger in
the poor hole window. Their arrival back on Earth was
shrouded in secrecy. Of course, the government fearing the
public's reaction to the news of extraterrestrial contact
orchestrated a covert operation to retrieve the astronauts
and sequester them in a hidden facility. The returning seven
were greeted not with fanfare. Not seven, returning seven,
returning ten. Sorry.
Holy shit.
I was about to say, hold on.
Yeah.
Yeah.
A bunch of other people died, by the way.
No, they're turning 10 were greeted with not with fanfare, but with isolation and intense
debriefings.
The astronauts forever changed by their experiences on Serpo struggled to readjust to life on
Earth.
They had witnessed wonders beyond imagination, encountered a civilization vastly different
from their own and experienced the loss of two of their
comrades. Imagine going live. This is real. Leaving an Earth
that's like Cold War, Vietnam War war torn, moving to a
utopia of just peace and harmony for 13 years and then coming
back to Earth and having to be like, this sucks.
Would you I'd be like, take me back, please. I don't want to be here. I live in a radiation
suit, please.
I would be I would go live in like a geodesic dome in the middle of the woods at that point.
Like, fuck that.
Yeah. Painting your walls of memories of Planet Serpo. Yeah, they're intense debriefings changed
forever. Seeing the amazing shit that they saw.
And over the next few years, the astronauts would slowly share their knowledge and experiences with government officials and scientists.
They provided detailed accounts of even culture, technology, history,
filling volumes of classified documents.
They brought back samples of alien plant life, recordings of even language
and even a few artifacts of their advanced technology.
But their journey had taken a toll on their health.
The prolonged exposure to SERPO's radiation had caused a variety of ailments from chronic
fatigue to organ damage.
One by one, the astronauts were slowly passing away, their bodies weakened by the extraordinary
adventure that they had gone on.
Their legacy, however, would live on.
The knowledge they brought back from SERpo sparked new avenues of research and
development, pushing the boundaries of human understanding.
Who could ask for anything?
The seeds of a new era of technological advancement were finally being sown and the possibilities seemed endless.
The return of the SERPO-12, well, 10, to Earth marked the end of an extraordinary chapter
in human history.
They were heroes, albeit unsung ones, even to this day, whose daring mission had pushed
the boundaries of exploration and expanded our understanding of the universe.
In the secret facility where they were debriefed,
the astronauts recounted their experiences
in meticulous detail.
So that's how, like, we supposedly have, like,
a really deep understanding of these people
locked away somewhere.
They shared their knowledge, they had gained the insights,
they had gleamed from the civilization
far more advanced from their own,
but their tales were met with a mixture of fascination,
skepticism, and fear.
The government, while intrigued by the possibilities,
was also wary of the potential implications
of revealing the truth to the public.
The Cold War was still raging,
and the idea of alien contact
could easily be weaponized or exploited.
And so, the story of Project Serpo was buried,
hidden away in classified files
and whispered about in hushed tones
in the corridors of power. The astronauts sworn to secrecy lived out their lives in
relative obscurity, their extraordinary experiences forever etched in their memories and nothing
more. And in 2005, decades after the mission's conclusion, an anonymous source calling himself
anonymous, began leaking information about Project Serpo online. He claimed to be a retired government employee with inside knowledge of the program.
His emails filled with details of the accounts and alleged evidence sparked a renewed interest in the Serpo story.
And the information provided by Anonymous was met with both, you know, people who fully bought in and believed,
and also everybody who, you know, spit on it and said it's dumb.
Some saw it as confirmation of the long held beliefs.
Others dismissed it as a hoax or disinformation campaign.
Regardless, Project Serpo is one of the more obscure,
but still relatively powerful topics in UFO lore.
Is it still a good chunk of people who believe this is real?
But you might ask, did anything dramatic happen? Nope. It came home.
It quietly died of old age, the government has all the secrets that they said, and that's all we know.
And that is the end of Project Surfer.
Thank God.
Questions?
So we just stopped, did we stop talking to them?
Did we, are we still best buds?
They went home.
They're tired, dude.
We don't know because they crashed out.
We don't know.
We will, I imagine we might be, we must still be in contact with them, but nothing else has been leaked.
So I don't know.
It's real weird because it wraps up like this is a story that ends.
Yes, it just ends.
It just there is no like and we have been working with them ever.
So it's like everyone involved dead.
Everyone who was any knowledge of it gone.
The aliens on their home.
We like like it's just wrapped up.
Yep.
Just wraps up presidents are informed on it to this day.
We have we supposedly I'm looking at like there's a 1981
briefing as well for President.
I'm freaking what's Reagan who is being read in about all
this stuff.
He gets cut.
We have like here.
I'll read through this.
But here I'll have you boys.
This will take us out here.
Here we go. This is three. There's three parts in this. Oh God. It's so long.
No, we're not going to, this is so long. No, nevermind. That's six pages long.
I'm not doing that. Uh, it's so long, bro. And it's all nonsense. Yeah. Fuck that.
One of the quotes is, okay, this is just amazing. That's Reagan, by the way,
who said, and the amazing is all cat. Okay. this is just amazing. That's Reagan, by the way, who said that? Cool. And amazing is all cow.
Okay, this is just amazing.
Yeah, exactly.
Okay.
But that's it. Like we had this exchange program and as far as we know, everything else is locked
down. The government's hiding it from us. Project Serpo, everybody. Definitely not made up by a
person having a lark in 2005 firing off this information.
And it actually took, you know, it took to a certain level.
It became part of a lot of people's beliefs. So boys, final thoughts on projects are before we're out of here.
Man questions.
Anything I can answer for you.
So we first heard about this when, what year was the like,
like the emails are from 2005 and they were like
being published in real time or what yeah yeah so there's it was a website that is up now that's
been taken yes it's been basically being uploaded on the internet since 2005 pretty much like
straight away it's a project serpo.org i think is the website serpo.org sorry serpo.org great
beautiful website name what i want to do is draw a line from this story
to show how it has reverberated
through pop culture and stuff.
But really, all the lines are through other better stories
and just lead to Serpo, which is just kind of like-
Also because this was released in 05.
That's what I mean.
The lines come from the movies first and then to this.
Yeah, the word, that's exactly what I'm saying. The word I want to say is just kind of like pastiche,
sort of like cliche. That's the only thing that's unfortunate about this. I love the premise of
these emails and I love the idea of it being like a meta- that's like released over time. I think that's awesome.
Why did you go with such a generic story, man?
Right? Like why couldn't you have like made it more exciting?
And the thing is, if you read the book, the secret journey to planet Serpo,
he has so many, just like, uh, he's like, he has a reference.
Here's what this means. Like a lot of, uh, just what do you call it?
Index and footnotes, but none of it really does anything.
Like it doesn't add or actually clarify anything.
It's just like he just like explains like what the area looked like more in a footnote.
Like it's just like useless.
But you can go find it online. Super cheap.
It's like 13 bucks.
If you want to read it, feel free.
It's I mean, if you're a UFO guy like me, it's at least worth having in your book
collection just to have it because it's just one
of those books.
What is the name of this book again?
Secret Journey to Planet Serpo.
Okay.
No problem.
I'm very, very interested in the hit.
There is a guy, Richard C.
Doty, Dottie dotty. Yes. A former
security guard, the air force special investigations unit.
Apparently this all came out right before a book came out.
What year it might be secret journey to Planet Serpo. 2006.
Okay.
So yeah, that happened right after the emails were starting.
So yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is like right.
I'm sorry.
I'm like trying to read through this Wiki.
Hey, how dare you figure out this is a griff?
Okay.
No.
Secret Journey to Planet Serpo publish date was 2013.
So this is apparently it all started in 2005 with email from request anonymous
to a mail list.
You followed your mail list, um, claim to be retired government guy with top secret
info, like everything you said investigation, uh, believes that anonymous is Richard C.
Doty Doty.
And this is because he was trying to hype up the book that I believe is about
this exact. That would make sense. Richard.
I'm literally like reading Wikipedia is right now trying to figure out like what
the background information is. Cause that's a story right there.
The book is called, uh, the book published, um,
April 21st, 2005 is called exempt from disclosure by Robert M Collins and Richard
C Doty. And it is so, I mean, this is a thing. I don't know. This is exactly about the same
story, but it's interesting. No, but here's my, here's you want to, here's you want to,
here's my insane thought. Cause Doty, I know the name and he's one of those guys who's
like a little bit, I would consider reliable for the most part overall. But there's there is
in my research for Project Serpo, the idea that this is actually a misinformation like
book to combat Dottie's release of his book to just muddy the waters and just make it
look more insane. So whatever he's saying just looks fucking crazy because this is coming
out so far the same right around the same time that I yes, I've heard that
before. So like, yeah, I'm it's why people know better than
me. Please let me know.
I'm straight up just reading a wiki right now trying to get
more info. The government would be one bit like the Pentagon
being the one that's trying to like muddy the waters.
Well, we do know that the Pentagon obfuscates all the fucking
time. But like, yeah, I don't know.
I can't there's no way to prove that this is misinformation. It just is interesting
because I did. Dottie book has nothing to do with. He's a lot more, uh, his book is
a lot more where is it here is. Yeah. It's a lot more about like a propulsion systems,
um, out to be air warp drives, wormhole space-time bubbles. It's like more about the potential
scientific ways of how like like or how they do this
and stuff. And admittedly, this is the exact op like this is again, the opposite so different
from what the other information you have for the last 249 episodes been talking about that. I'm
like, come on, I already don't believe any of this because it's it doesn't fit. So I don't know.
That's leaked out of the government. Do you think the truth is going to be more similar to the lore
or do you think it's going be, like when we finally.
If I was a betting man,
my guess is that what we're dealing with,
if we were to say it is something else,
otherworldly or whatever,
it's probably closer to the indifferent attitudes
that they seem to have toward us.
This idea that we're not,
they're not nice to us or anything like that.
They more treat us like wild animals are captured, you know, whatever it's more neutral
I think that's closer to the truth than project serpos like
Fucking hand in hand and let's go to Zeta reticuli and live on their planet for 13 years. Fair enough. Fair enough
Sure fucking crazy to me, but it's a hilarious story and I love it
That wraps up this week boys. We're off to go to a mini-sode. Next week, we talk something that's a lot more potentially real. The Travis Walton abduction is one of my
favorite just scenarios. There's like five people involved. It's not just one guy. It's a
fascinating story. And the movie's worth a watch. Should they watch it before or after?
Yeah. I mean, either or you don't need to watch it at all. In fact, if you'd rather get the actual
story first, listen to the podcast, then you'd rather get the actual story first,
listen to the podcast, then watch the movie,
because the movie obviously fictionalizes some things
for the sake of entertainment.
So yeah, up to you, but you can do either one.
But that's it, thank you guys again.
We will see you next week.
We appreciate it, we love you.
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