Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 258 - Project Pegasus with Guest itmeJP

Episode Date: July 28, 2024

Twitch streamer extraordinaire itmeJP joins the boys this week as they breakdown the secret government project known as "Pegasus" MERCH - http://www.theyetee.com/collections/chilluminati Special thanks to our sponsors this episode - HelloFresh - http://www.hellofresh.com/chillapps All you lovely people at Patreon! HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Art Commissioned by - http://www.mollyheadycarroll.com

Hello everybody and welcome back to the Chiluminati Podcast episode 258. As always, I am one of your hosts, Mike Martin, joined by two people from LA who don't matter, Alex and Jesse, and our very special guest, Twitch streamer extraordinaire, one of those who drop frames the MCU crew and so much more, the man, the myth, the legend, Hitmejp. What's up, my man? Welcome to the show. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for having me. Uh, I would say the now defunct MCU crew cause Jesse killed the show.

Jesse killed the show. You killed the show. Jesse. I don't even know this. Holy shit. Jesse killed the show. He joined the stream one day and he's like, guys, uh, can we curse on the show? No, Jesse didn't say that. I'm at, I'm generally asking you to, can we curse? And I was like, I was like, that's so weird that Jesse asked that he's doesn't seem like that type of guy. No, no, no. Just now the whole bit's done. Now, Jesse joined the call and he said, I'm fucking done. It doesn't, it just doesn't hit the same. That, uh, that did not happen. I didn't kill the show. I believe Marvel cinematic universe did. This is all, and then, then he went and started

a new podcast You got have you heard of his new podcast the dodging Cox podcast dodging Cox. That's a great name I'm dodging Cox all the time, bro. It's a really good name for the podcast. Why you do this? Why you do this? I see I'm already glad I have you on already glad I have you on uh We usually have a question that Alex proposes, but it's when we ask all of our guests whenever they jump on But I'll leave it to you, Alex, to put the question forward. I'm not going to assume your familiarity with our show, but I think you could even just probably guess from our vibes, just from the five seconds that we've been live together

already that math is the crazy one. I'm the kind of just out there kind of stoned one and Jesse's the one who doesn't believe that anything is real. Okay. So in your, in your, in your own life, in your own relation to the paranormal, the unsolved, the unexplained, where, where do you land on that spectrum? Huh? Well, Jesse believes none of it's real. That's what you said. He's very skeptical. Let's say, yes, hardcore, hardcore. If there's facts, he's what you said. He's very skeptical. Let's say yes hardcore hardcore If there's facts, he'll believe the facts debatable. I think I would probably I think I would skew on Skepticism

Thank you in terms of where I lie on kind of the those three points on a grid I guess do you have like a one thing that like where that all goes out the window? Like I do about like Bigfoots. I just I just kind of feel like they're out there, even though I know they're probably not aliens for me, like even though I know they're probably not out there. Yeah, like I feel like maybe they are like I feel like they are. I mean, I've never I haven't thought about it too much. I would say I guess I definitely believe that there's alien life in some form. I don't necessarily think it's like little gray men, but there's gotta

be something out there. Like the universe is too big for it not to have something else in it. I vibe that. Sounds heavily on the Jesse side of things. Very, very heavy, Jesse. I'm just here for the stories, man. I like, I like what happens. I like the lore. Sure. But, uh, the other part of the question that we always ask, cause this is always, this sometimes pulls out stuff that you never expect, but do you have

like that one time in your own life? Like that one time when something went down that you just have no idea, or is there like a family story or like on Griselda always tells the story of the fucking man in black that ran down the stairs that one time or whatever. Well, a lot of, uh, I wouldn't say that it, it stems anywhere in reality, but it definitely stems. I have a very active imagination, uh, and coupled with a older brother who was, uh, we were dicks to one another growing up.

Um, outside my window in my childhood home, there was a tree and the tree had a branch that would skew upwards at like a 45 degree angle and downwards at a 45 angle right in front of the window. So it formed a K and so my brother it formed a K at night when because we had lights hitting it from the street light like a silhouette so my brother informed me that that case stood for kill JP. Oh shit. Someone was going to eventually come through that window one night. And I was like seven or eight or something like this. So like I had no other reason not

to believe them. And oftentimes when I would be going to bed around nine or 10, one of my parents would be out front watering or moving a watering hose in the garden right in front of my window. And so there were many nights where like, I would see the shadowy figure move in front of my window with the words that my brother informed me about what the case stood for.

And it did not go very well. Kill JP. That's so. Echoing in your head. I love that. It was something I wish I could have done to my little brother when I was younger. It was a fun troll that I think eventually after three or four years I was like, ah, this is all bullshit. But for a while there. I really missed out on torturing my brother for three or four years, I was like, ah, this is all bullshit. But for a while there, I really missed out on torture my brother for three or

four years. When you, when your kids, you and your brother just want to fight. Yeah. The main way people get over fear is just like by getting bored of being afraid of it. Yeah. That's pretty funny to me. Over exposure.

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Is that exposure therapy idea? But I know that vibe. Like I, I, once I'm, I had like a fever of like 101 degrees and I was home from school and I heard like straight up like dudes walking on my ceiling on my roof. I didn't know what it was. And it was like really freaking me out. And I like called

my mom on the phone at work to ask what was going on. Like back when we had landlines and I like thought I was waiting to, for my mom to answer the phone and I like auto dialed 911 in my brain. Like I typed in 911 and was like, they were like, what's your emergency? And I was like, I clicked the button, my bad, bye. So it's like, I don't know. Like I don't know what motivated my body to dial 911 instead of my mom's phone number, but I don't know.

They were just guys working on the roof, but same deal. Yeah, yeah. Imagination is, is oftentimes the scariest aspect, I think to a lot of things, which is why the movie long legs is a five out of 10 thumbs down. Didn't have a good time. Math is with the hot take. That's one of those things where around, I would say like around this time, they start spinning up, um, advertising for, uh, like the October movies, the spooky movies. This is the worst time for me to watch TV or streaming or anything that has like ads

before it because I don't that I don't really go and watch a lot of horror films or anything like that. But when I do the act of imagination kicks in. So like, I know everything that happens in long legs because I'm an idiot and go, I go and read the synopsis of it or like a hereditary. I know everything that happens in hereditary. Yeah. So I read the synopsis. And so like you live in my head, the scenes that happen in that film are probably a hundred times worse than they actually got.

Yeah. Because I won't actually watch the film. Hereditary is pretty fucked up. I'll tell you that. I don't, yeah. I don't. Yeah. Oh, hereditary is fucking. I love that movie. No, that movie is one of those movies that like for 30, 40 years will still be like, yo, no, that sucked. That's in my brain. Permanently. Yeah. Hereditary is like, um, it's the horror version of two girls, one cup. Yeah. Tell me I'm wrong. Cause that's what it is. I mean, there's a lot of movies like that,

like hostile comes to mind. Also the horror version of the goats. I've seen, I actually seen hostile. I know what you mean. Okay. All right. I was trying to think of a literal analogy as to why two girls, one cup was similar to the threat. Cause it's like, once you see it, you're like, that's there forever. Now fair. Got it. No, I got it. That's not cup was similar to the thread. Cause it's like, once you see it, you're like, that's there forever. Now. Got it. No, I got it. That's not, that's in the brain.

I can't get rid of that. Like, it's kind of the modus operandi of this podcast is to fill your brain with nonsense that you can't unlearn. And I would rather this be a show where when people listen, they're entertained for an hour or so, and then forget it. So in like a few years, we can just go back into the exact same topic again. They'll be like, this is great. That's my hope. There are topics in our early library.

I'd love to tackle with the resources and research we have now brings us to our main, our main topic for today. Everybody. I'm very excited because the government is just entirely filled with infinite secret projects that supposedly happened with fascinating whistleblowers that come forth to talk about them. And today we're very specifically talking about the government project known as project Pegasus, which we learned through almost its entirety by a man by the name of Andrew Basiago. Now I do you know or have you ever heard bossy? I go.

He is the mortal enemy of Alex Fossey on. Yeah, I was going to say he's like my like he's me with like a goat. But I have a I have a beard already. So it's weird. But like he's he's the shaved version of you. Yeah, but he has mutton chops. He shaved and bald and he has a like third eye in the middle of his forehead that opens when he shoots powers out of it because he's evil mortal enemy.

When, when I show you a clip of him later in the show, uh, he is basically a 1970s politician in today's day and age to this point, like the way he looks, like you'll see what I mean when, when you see pictures of him, he's still around still, uh, and was running for president as early as 2008, which we will also cover. It's a fascinating, fascinating guy. Before we get to any of that, as always at the top of the episode, shout out to the sources that I used to kind of just put this episode together. Andrew boss, I'll go wrote a

few books, I only used one of them, the discovery of life on Mars, which is written by him. Fucking boring as hell. Everything this man's interviews, I've listened to about three of his interviews, they god he's just so boring He takes some insane stories and somehow makes them tedious to listen to It's an actual talent. I congratulate him for that And then obviously just a bajillion different articles online and discussion this man has a kind of a weird little like I wouldn't say cult But conspiracy following about what he's done

And if you don't know what project Pegasus is the kind of elevator pitch for you here is that project Pegasus was built to harness power beyond quote unquote human comprehension, to shatter the boundaries of space and time itself. What to, to travel through time, to travel temporally, physically, spiritually, along with being able to see different points in time while keeping your body here in the present day, not through remote viewing, but technological breakthroughs being kept from us by the government. Yeah.

So far, so good. You in? You know what I'm in this. I know this is going to be complete nonsense, but I'm sold. Let's go. So far you're like in the realm of like a call of duty season plotline. Yes.

This is all claimed to be 100% factual and it's a lot. There's a lot to kind of take in here. I love fringe and this sounds like fringe. Yes. Yes. It's so let's go. Well, Pegasus sounds familiar. It's because it was in Stargate SG-1 Season 10 as an episode.

10? The Pegasus Project was Episode 3 of that season. Oh my, is this when they fought Anubis and his alien fleet when they arrived to defeat? That's just the film. Or was this the Ori? This is very important to me as a fan of Stargate. This is the one where they visit Atlantis to find new clues about the location of Merlin's intro to Stargate Atlantis, bro. I mean, is this the episode where they have the, is this like when Star Trek, they, the enterprise goes to SG one to be like, please go watch this series.

The enterprise does not go to SG one. That does not occur. What are you talking about? I don't know any of the references. Got never seen it. I was like, what in the fuck are you talking about, man? I was thinking about both. Yeah. Can I say I had never seen SG one.

So I have no idea like if that was even an important episode, if it did lead to because there was a Stargate Atlantis. It was. Yes. It's like the vibe of like you and your friends in middle school filming like a sci-fi like short short subject for fun and then like each episode is like one of those that has like a Hundred million dollar a hundred thousand dollar budget. Oh, yeah hundred million dollar budget. It's the best show ever million dollar I was like that the acolyte no very expensive

Yeah and at the heart of project Pegasus was Andrew Basiago himself a Yeah. And at the heart of project Pegasus was Andrew Basiago himself, a self-proclaimed indigo child who claims to have lived not one, but multiple lives through the corridors of time. And there's so much that Andrew claims to have happened in his life that he can't, I couldn't, I condensed what I could to put a cohesive story together here as to what he claims to be true. He says that he was chosen for his extraordinary abilities and potential, and he was thrust into this world at the age of six. What? Okay, hold on. All right. His life just started at six.

Like at like six years old, they scooped him up and brought him into the project Pegasus and he was with them for many, many, many years. Wait, so how did they find him? His father worked for, uh, the military space and, uh, like air and space stuff. Here's the thing though. There's no public record anywhere of who this man's father is at all. Wait, so is this kind of like 11 on the hit TV show, paranormal activity, stranger things, stranger things. Yeah, but that was based on the hit TV show, paranormal activity, stranger things, stranger

things. Yeah. But that was based on the Montauk project. Remember? Right. But same thing. He's like, he's like, Hey, my boss, what's up? I'm writing you an email.

My kid is weird. Just in case you want to know. No, this kid was snatched up, dude. No, no. Alex has a better dad sold out the kid standing of what happened. We're going, it's not like 11. It's like one, dude. No, no. Alex has a better dad sold out the kid standing of what happened. We're going, it's not like 11. It's like one dude. I was just, this is my little elevator pitch of what we're about to get into became the monster. Oh, spoilers. Jesse. Yeah. Sorry, Jesse. Come on, man. Spoilers. Geez. Isn't that show? How old is that show? 10 years old. It's so old that all the kids for this last season are in their twenties. Yes. So

like in an interview, Millie Bobby Brown said she started when she was 10 and she's about to turn 20. And now she has a family. Yeah, she has family, kids, grandkids. It's all happening. And you might've heard the term Indigo child. All I knew really about Indigo children was from the video game Indigo prophecy before I put this fucking first off, that is not even remotely the same thing. No Indigo prophecy is not Indigo children. At the end of Indigo prophecy,

there is an Indigo child that he is saving a little girl that he has to run on the Side of a building with to keep him safe. So indigo prophecy is about an indigo change And cage level still remember David is the same indigo bugs. This is the same thing with the bugs chasing Yes, the bug that's the bug game. That's one where he's fighting glowing aliens at the like does the spin the bugs like yeah That's pretty good game. That's a pretty good game. It's it's it might be one of the best games ever made. If you haven't played it play that game.

Only good David cage game. It is a game where you are both the criminal and the cop trying to chase the criminal. And it's insane that that's what it is. Yeah. And that's same thing for heavy. No, that's heavy. And heavy rain is like that same exact thing. A criminal chasing himself.

Right. But one of those is heavy rain. And the other is literally one of the best games ever made. I don't care what anyone says. I love that. You go prophecy slap. I played that game in one sitting when anyway, we got to keep going, but yeah, Indigo children. That's all I knew it from. And, uh, I, I need to look up what Indigo child was. And I've just kind of ended up at a rabbit hole. And I learned is that Indigo children, there's a,

it actually cropped up in the new age movement during the 1970s. This concept began to emerge that would kind of capture people's imaginations. The idea of an Indigo child, which was a term coined by a woman by the name of Nancy Ann Tapp, a parapsychologist and self-proclaimed synesthetist, which is somebody who's claims they have synesthesia where they can like see sounds and taste colors and that kind of thing. Obviously there was no way to prove it or not. It was all just what she claims.

I would have so many questions. If there are one of you listening right now, I want you on the show. I wanna ask you. Pharrell says he's one. Did you know that? Does blue taste like blue raspberry? What's the vibe there? I feel like in or maybe JP can tell me if I'm wrong But I think in order to be a twitch streamer you have to be an indigo child might be true Yeah, that might check out. No, that's more satanic cult like oh really, you know

We all had to go to the meeting you didn't like the satanic cult invite Jesse when you got partnered they didn't say Oh, no, I yeah. No, I'm in dude. dude I did the whole thing we had to like yeah give up something you love Is that where you pick up the jacket from? Yeah, our varsity jacket why I never got one Yeah, the twitch hoodie back at conventions were there that secret twitch area you can get through That's why you had to be part of the club. They're being real clever with bleed purple, but like I felt like it was really obvious. Oh my God. Oh, I never even put it together.

I felt like it was pretty obvious. Yeah. Now you did. Yeah. Purple color of royalty, Twitch single-handedly taking like, we are the monarchy of hell. Like it makes perfect sense. Did you hear me say Pharrell is a cynesthese? Pharrell?

The Pharrell? Yeah. According? These cynis the Pharrell the Pharrell. Yeah. According to him, according to him, he is. There's like a famous video with him and Maggie Rogers, where they're, I think they both claimed to be one. Yes. And he like found her during a, some college thing where he was listening to students work and they both just like vibed super hard. And then like, he freaked out.

It was like, yeah, you don't need help. This is a fantastic song or something. You can go watch the video. It's actually pretty cool. But they both claim to be that. But by the way, by the way, just for the record, one, I wonder if that affects his ability as being in the musical field.

Two, I just want to say for the record, hey, hi, we were joking about, uh, devil worship in Twitch. Wink. All right. Moving on guys. It was just a joke. It's not happening. And we were just playing around.

It's just a pocket. It's not real. Right. It's just a coincidence that we all are Twitch partners. All four of us. It's true. Yeah. It's just a coincidence that all of us, we would never like, come on,

come on. That's so stupid. There's no, or fame and internet, internet fame and mediocre internet. What sucks is they're actually a guarantee. There's someone who's like, oh my God, finally they let it slip. Their eye, their eyelids blink the other way, bro. I haven't heard from him in years, but there was this guy who would send like email after email about how plants are literally double taking over planet earth. Oh, I remember that guy that got real racist real quick. Yeah. Oh, that shit. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Plants were racist. Well, it had to do with, it had to do with the color of your skin and how much sun could get through. It was crazy. It was, yeah, it was a lot. It

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And she associated these children with an Indigo aura, which she claimed she could perceive through these kids, hence the name. Her ideas didn't really go further than that, and it wasn't until two other women, Lee Carroll and Jan Tober, who kind of took that idea and then started just cranking out books and lectures, and the concept of Indigo children

really gained kind of a foothold in the 90s and early 2000s, and that's how it got more popular. Not really via Nancy herself, but these two others who were like money and then just started cranking shit out about it. You know who I absolutely blame for this? It's success in the nineties and early two thousands, uh, art Bell and George Norris absolutely convinced the two of they did so many episodes on Indigo Children that made it seem like, yo, this is a thing. Absolutely blame the two of them.

A hundred percent. Just any, any sort of like, uh, yeah, that just, uh, then I messed up and miss our belt. I miss the old shows so much. Big agree. Big agree. It's certainly just X-Men though, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In a lot of ways in a lot of ways, they weren't like mutant superpower kids. They were just like, I mean, you know how the, you know, the mutants that like on a comparative scale of cool mutants to like shit mutants, they're all shit tier mutants. They never have any cool. There's a little bit better than humans. Ones that can like infinite spaghetti meatballs or something.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and to Nancy, to her, to go to that, Jesse, she often would say they were more possessed, they possessed more of like an extraordinary intuition, a really deep well of empathy, and a wisdom that was like, seemed to be much beyond the age of the child, like just fell way more wise. And sometimes they were gifted with like,

an exceptional intelligence or creativity. Nothing like crazy powerful. That stuff didn't come until the other two, Lee and Jen, us, Jan rather, stepped in and started, you know, making Indigo children something much, much, much more. There's a, there's a moment I think in this time period, I don't know if it's these two women who were involved. There's a moment where like Indigo child and star child have sort of like a Venn

diagram crossover. A little bit. Yeah. It's like, it's like, who knows? Are they alien kids though, bro? You know what star children are JP? Do you know what star children are now? Okay. A star child is a gray alien human hybrid who's planted on this earth. Mostly look human. You really don't know. Okay. As like a sort of like peaceful integration of what will be two races coming together. And they're like, and then there's some people out there who think star children are, you're an extraterrestrial spirit inhabiting a

human body, but they're always like extraterrestrial related. Okay. Either way you're from outer space in some fashion and you're just better than other humans. Yes. And a indigo child is your just by being from out of, or being from outer space. No, no powers. I mean, you're just like, uh, you, you have, you would potentially have like

the same thing as an indigo child where you're just like a little more heightened in every way. No way to actually have to show it off and prove it in any way. Yeah. You're just like that cross hybrid between an alien and a human. That's going to eventually be how we all hang out together in the future. Like that's the vibe. And so at some point they both kind of became the exact same thing, really, which is very strange, but yeah. And moving now we get to move on to Andrew Basiago himself, who's says he, like he's in between Gen X and Boomer

in terms of when he was born, but he claims he's not borderline Gen X, but he's one of the very first generation of Indigo children that were being born in this era, saying that there were many of his generation being born. That means between, that means just between Boomer and Gen X is the Indigo children?

Yeah, I guess so. According to him, this was in an interview I listened to. Like if you're like 50, five what? Yeah, I guess. Like I don't fucking know, dude. What would you call an Indigo adult? Like, what do you, what do you mean? Like millennial child? We call what I mean, if they're all there, they're no longer Indigo children. Those kids are 50 gold Indigo old man. Yeah. Into very old into gold man. Yeah. And the gold man. Yeah. That's like some, that sounds like somebody who would be standing next

to Blackagar Bolt again in the- You know, I wasn't gonna, I was gonna let it slide, but that's, the Indigo children sound a lot like the Inhumans, just saying. I'm not- Their powers are just as stupid, yeah, no. Humans with latent powers that need to be activated, that were implanted in them by aliens.

Did you know Alex's favorite comic book character is Black and guard? I think that's Jesse's least favorite. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's true. Yeah, that's crazy. So that's what we mean when we say, are you a Jesse or an Alex is just, what do you think of black bolt? What's your opinion on black? You're a bolt. I mean, I'm a big black bolt fan, so maybe I'm, I'm the interim between the Jesse and Alex. I just,

I'm just glad to know that I am NOT insane Yeah, he's cool. Yeah, see there you go got cool stuff going on. He's neat So does Andrew Basia go his cool stuff started happening when he was actually very very very young According to Basi ago his early years were marked by an abrupt departure from normalcy at the tender age of six years old by an abrupt departure from normalcy at the tender age of six years old. He claims to have been recruited into this program, this government program, shouted in secrecy by his father, who he claims was Raymond Basiago and claims was an engineer that was involved with classified government projects. Again, as far as I could just find in my research,

I could not find any evidence that this man exists in any way. Wait, not even like a birth certificate for Raymond Vasiago? No records. I couldn't find records. Literally fucking nothing. Like I could find nothing. When you say he was recruited, what does that mean? Yeah. Well, let's we'll talk about it. Well, I got, I got all that. Don't you worry. Yeah. He states that his father introduced him to Project Pegasus and encouraged his participation. And this didn't happen out of the blue either.

According to Basiago in an interview from nine years ago, as he was preparing to run for president. This is during when he was getting ready to run for president. Of what? President of what? To the United States of America. In 2008, remember? That's what he said. I said that earlier. Yeah. He was running for president multiple times by the way.

Like I guess it didn't clock that this guy. Oh, okay. So he's like that kind of he's like the dude. One of his platforms he runs for is that teleportation is the greenest to a civil civilian form of transportation that we can create. And they already have the technology and it'll it'll help global warming. That checks. I mean, yeah, if it's true, it checks out.

It's not bad. If it's true, it's not bad. If it's true. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. This reminded me, I was about to say during the nineties, uh, way off topic,

but this guy reminds me of during the 90s, this was a dude named Bo grits who would run for president and he ran on the platform of God guns and grits. And I just want to let you all know that that's what I think of every time anyone says third party. I'm like, both grits, dude. So in this interview, uh, he talks about a couple of the examples as a kid that gave his father, like the idea to help, like put him into this program. Um, one of the examples given is that one night when his dad was in his cellar working on one of his projects in his workshop that he, uh, he went to the workshop without his father knowing because he said he heard his dad talking. And when he went down there to figure out what his dad was talking about or who he was

talking to, he quickly came to realize that his dad wasn't talking, but he was hearing his father's own thoughts. Whoa. Fuck. Another example he provides is, I'm gonna provide the audio clip. I'm hoping you can hear it. If not, I'll just cover it with the written description

I have, but here we go. Can you hear this? He also came out of the cellar one time into our rec room, which was on the ground floor of the house. And he saw me, it's not levitating, but just causing several of my small toys, like my alphabet blocks and some pinker toys, to hover three feet off the ground.

What I had done is picked them up and placed them about three feet off the ground. And I was not only causing them to hover, but some of the toys were actually orbiting around each other in the way that our earth orbits the sun. And that was the other example he gives about- Sounds a lot like X-Men, though. You know what I mean?

Like sounds a lot exactly like the things you see in X-Men. But he's so fucking boring. Like the man is just describes these things as so matter of factly. So it was at this point his dad's like, well, I know exactly where to bring my child. Project Pegasus and this initiative, Project Pegasus delved into the realm of insanity, theoretical possibilities of time travel and teleportation and much, much more. Basiago describes being whisked away to hidden facilities and subjected to rigorous training regimens at six at six, all Jason born shit, huh?

Like Jason born shit. Like more, more like I would say like 11 from stranger things, but less cruel. That's what I'm saying. You know, um, um, kind, I guess all those kids in that room, he he's no 11. He's like a four, but yeah, I'm with you. Is I was, was the lower number mean they more powerful? I never got that. No, it was just the kids that got there first. Okay. Okay. Like one was the oldest one. Yeah. Got you. Okay, okay. Here's the first one. Yeah. Yeah. All this was in preparation for the extraordinary experiments he would be a part of for the years and over a decade. He was part of this moving forward. According to his own accounts,

his immersion into the world of project Pegasus commenced with a clandestined meeting in a nondescript hotel room. A group of unfamiliar adults, their faces he could not remember. And among them though was his father, Raymond Basiago, who as he recounts had orchestrated this entire pivotal interduction. And in any other situation, I would be calling the cops. The dad just go into a nondescript hotel room with his six year old child for some men for him to me that he can't fucking remember.

He goes on to describe that the room itself was a stark contrast to the familiar comforts of his childhood home. It was sterile, devoid of personality, hummed with an undercurrent of covert operations, he says, whatever the fuck that means. I don't fucking know what that even means just so it was like sick had like neon red lights running lights like what are we talking about yeah i don't know like he's setting up a movie scene guys with clipboards he was informed of his selection for the top secret government initiative a project so classified

that its existence was unknown to anyone in the wider world and anyone at all really And really anyone other don't even try to look it up. You'll never find it You really won't there's very little out there other than his own books. There's no yeah, okay sure sure Are they free so that the message can get out there? There is there is one of them that is free on the internet archive. So yes, and that's the discovery of life on Mars, which was like the one I read. And he put it in, he made it free, right? By choice.

I didn't look to see who made it free, so I can't comment on that. I don't know. The adults, Ibasiago kind of recalls, explain that prod the projects and objectives with a mix of scientific jargon that he didn't understand and veiled promises of a brighter future that he'd be a part of. They painted a picture of a world where the constraints of time and space could be manipulated, where humanity could transcend its limitations and explore the vast expanse of not only the

cosmos of space, but its own history via traveling through time itself. And for him as a young boy, he said this was just an, he had an insatiable thirst for adventure and curiosity, curiosity. And he was just completely in, but again, he's six, you know, I don't really know how much he really understood what was being told to him. Could he read? Ye can you read it? Six? It's been a long time.

Do you think because he was so powerful mentally that he can levitate stuff that he could, like he doesn't need to read that books read to him? He can read their thoughts at least. He could hear thoughts. So he probably at least heard them. Like the language of humans leaves a psychic impression on the paper that he can just read without knowing what the letters mean. Yeah. Maybe here's the author's thoughts. Yeah. May I? May be. Oh, shit.

I don't know. When he goes talking about the tests he was put Yeah, they have maybe. Oh, shit. I don't know. When he goes talking about the test he was put through, he said they were both physical and psychological designed to assess his suitability for the rigors of time travel and teleportation. The evaluations he claims range from like, we're talking endurance trials to complex cognitive assessments, all aimed at ensuring that he was super special enough to get through sent through time and space over and over and over again. And if you ask him where the headquarters were, he could not tell you.

He said they were, he was always shrouded in mystery, never allowed to see where they were going hidden away from prying eyes, uh, that he just could not bring you to even if he wanted to, uh. But it's here that he started getting introduced to some of the enigmatic technology that underpinned project Pegasus, things like the chrono visor and the quantum access device. Yes, Jesse, you mean the chrono. How many descriptions? Like from the Vatican archives.

Hello. Don't you know about the chrono visor? Chronovisor. That hellboy used to stare into the past. You know, I don't know. I would love for the two of you clearly do to explain it. That's one of those helmets that they are advisors that they wear at the poker table with the green. Right? Yeah, that's all. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

If you look, if you look through it from the inside, it shows what time it is. It's a Google glass. It's just like a Google Glass. These devices that according to Basiago, these devices were the keys to unlocking the mysteries of space and time, enabling him to eventually embark on extraordinary journeys through history and across the cosmos. Now, the Chronovisor, as he describes it, was a device that allowed its users to view events from the past or the future. He said it resembled a large television screen, but instead of

broadcasting conventional programs, it displayed scenes from different points in time. He claims to have witnessed historical events firsthand through the chrono visor, which will, you know, like all the historical events that every time traveler should go see. Abraham Lincoln giving the Gettysburg address and the declaration of independence being signed all that good stuff. You get to watch it on the TV. It's just a

TV that gets to it's like fucking Rick and Morty's like, what do you call it that cable that he lay watch or whatever it is interdimensional cable, but it's just time click a doodle or whatever. Yeah. Dude is Rick and Morty soft disclosure. Basically dude, if you drink the Szechuan sauce, that's what opens your third eye bro. Is McDonald's soft disclosure? Basically, dude, if you drink the Szechuan Sash, that's what opens your third eye, bro. Oh, damn. Is McDonald's soft disclosure? I'm gonna keep moving. The quantum

access device on the other hand was a teleportation machine, a small one. Basiago alleges that this device used quantum entanglement to transport individuals instantaneously across vast distances, and even to other planets. He recounts being teleported to various locations throughout history as well, including ancient Rome, the Civil War battlefield of Gettysburg, and more using a different piece of technology, which we'll get to in a moment. But with this piece, the quantum device, he even claims that he traveled to Mars on multiple locations

describing the planet's barren landscape and encountering extraterrestrial life forms. Through the chronovisor? No, the chronovisor, no, no, no. The quantum device was the teleportation thing. And he just literally actually went there with his whole physical self? Correct. With other people as well, which we, again, don't you worry. Interesting.

I thought you meant he teleported his consciousness. I understand now. No, no. Who? No, no. He physically teleported himself his whole ass body went. But that's later on in his like teen years, early days in Project Pegasus. He describes them. Don't laugh. This is very serious and very true. And we're with Harry Potter important things to the public.

Thank you. The the public, the public project. Pegasus, as he describes, was like a world other than the whirlwind of training that he was going through. He claims that he had from the age six up, he was groomed for a life of secrecy and intrigue built to be almost like a time bandit or a time spy. Like that's our time Lord. I'm toward a time Lord made me, um spy. Some sort of time lord? Some sort of time lord maybe?

Where the boundaries of reality were always constantly blurred for him. He existed in kind of a nexus point of all places at all times. He describes other fellow child participants as well. A diverse group of young minds allegedly also handpicked for their unique abilities and potential.

All Indigo children. So it's the Umbrella Academy. Yeah, yes. I mean, yes. It's many different things within many different comics. Together, they embarked on a series of adventures, sometimes solo, sometimes paired up, sometimes as a group. And Basiago says as a young boy, sometimes the Green Lantern would show up and do a team up with them.

I'll be fucking sick if you fucking did. He claims to have grappled with this weight of extraordinary experiences over his lifetime. He describes feelings of isolation and confusion. It was hard for him to kind of like talk about his experiences with anybody else because nobody really could understand them other than him and the kids that were going on these trips. He recounts moments of fear and anxiety as he confronted the potential dangers and even ethical implications of what he was doing over time by time traveling and teleporting to these other things. And these things would slowly weigh on him to the point where at the end of his experience with Project Pegasus, he would leave so he could whistle blow on it and bring all of the

truth forward. Just kind of give you a tone of like what he was feeling. How old was he when he left? He was in his twenties when he left. I don't know his exact age because his last final trips were around 1920. As far as like he recounts, which again, we'll get to despite these challenges and like this kind of weight on his shoulders as he consistently brings up, he claims to have persevered through it all and driven was driven by more of a thirst for knowledge and a sense of duty to the projects, kind of

overall objectives of a better future. He paints kind of a picture of himself as a young boy transformed by his experiences and a child prodigy thrust into this world without really an understanding of what he was about to be doing. And as he matured within the project, his role allegedly evolved from that of a mere participant to a more active and potentially even influential one. He describes being entrusted with greater responsibilities, leveraging his unique firsthand

experiences with the Chronovisor and quantum access device to inform the project's research and development efforts. He also claims to have played a crucial role in calibrating the chronovisor, ensuring its accuracy and depicting historical events across vast stretches of times. So he was able to just make it better. He recounts meticulously studying past events witnessed through the device, identifying patterns and anomalies that offered valuable insights into the nature of time itself. And he experiences, his experiences of teleportation also allegedly proved invaluable in the development of the quantum access device. And he describes working alongside engineers to refine the technologies, targeting systems and safety protocols, ensuring safe and efficient passage

through space and time. We get to the point where Basiago introduced the third piece of technology, the one that would teleport him directly to Mars multiple times, a place called the jump room. This is the room where he would physically teleport across space. Does he look baffled that like another thing was introduced? It just sounds like the movie time cop. Now it sounds like John Claude Van Damme movie time cop, where they go into their little time cup spaceship and then teleport through time and then end up in different, like it just, so what, so when you, when I say the jump room, what do you, what are

you imagining in your head? This thing looks like a little star gate. It's straight up star gate. I'm imagining the danger room from the X-Men except like it gets really bright and then you're gone. And then it's that thing again that we were talking about that one time of how the fuck do you get back?

Because they never think about that shit. Like same thing with Range 4 Charlie or Range 4 Harry or whatever. It's like they all went on these trips, these teleportation trips, and it's like how did they return back to Earth? And it's just literally like, how about that? And that's it, yeah, yeah, this is it, Yeah. And then they do that. Yeah, that's crazy.

And that's it. You never get an answer. Well, you're both wrong. Uh, the chamber he says is akin to a colossal shower stall. It's extremely unassuming. Um, but it was the key. This is the TARDIS. This is the TARDIS. Yeah. What, what does he mean by shower stall? Just like a normal shower, like a normal shower. I would imagine like a rectangular, tall telephone thing. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's exactly how I imagine what he means.

Is it bigger on the inside? No, it's not. Um, he said the walls of the jump room were adorned with shimmering panels that hummed with energy. Uh, and as Basiago steps inside, the panels would then ignite with an intense luminescence, Jesse, a bright light, which enveloped him in a tingling sensation. And in the blink of an eye, he would be transported to the target location.

So it's basically what I said, just, just smaller. Yeah. Yeah. It's less Stargate, more teleportation, Star Trek vibes. Yeah. Yeah. Way more Star Trek. Yeah. Yeah. It's less Stargate, more teleportation, Star Trek vibes. Yeah. Yeah. Way more Star Trek. Yeah. His inaugural teleportation with the jump room propelled him to the desolate planes of Mars. There he would encounter and talk about how, whoa, wait, timeout, timeout, timeout. Alex, are you thinking what this actually is?

What he entered a thing and then just was teleported to Mars. Oh, you mean like, is it like he's on drugs or like he's in a VR? Is it like a certain movie based on a novel? Oh, like John Carter of Mars? Yes. The finest, one of the finest films ever made. Is this just John Carter? I've never seen John Carter on Mars. So something that me and Jesse can agree on is that John Carter is the last masterpiece of our of our modern age. John Carter slaps, dude. I don't care what anyone says. I love John. Have you seen John Carter, JV? No, I was thinking. Yeah, I was thinking you're going to say like doom or something, Jesse, not John Carter. No, John Carter critically panned special effects by Pixar. Was John Carter with John Cena?

No, no, it was it was Friday Night Lights. It was Friday Night Lights was the main guy. I can't remember that guy's name. Oh, it's it's Disney trying to create their own Star Wars before they had Star Wars. And the movie flopped because they did not know how to market it. Wait, are you talking about Riggins from Friday Night Lights? Who? Who? The kid like the like cute kid who's like kind of got like Gambit energy.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was Riggins from the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm blanking on the actor's name. Yeah, for some reason, True Detective also. I just can't remember. Yeah, yeah. Huh? No, I never I've never seen John Carp. It is. Imagine a guy from like Civil war era. That's when it was written. Like, Oh really? Is that old shit? And, and he ends up teleported to Mars and he gets caught up in a

Martian revolution. I think it sounds sick. It's, it's, the movie actually good though. Or was it like, just like, it's directed by Brad Bird or something like that. I think the story is Edgar Rice Burroughs who invented Tarzan also like do rules. Like it's it's sweet. Like, Oh, Andrew Stanton. It's not Brad Bird. It's Andrew Stanton. But the actual special effects are by Pixar and will impose in the movie. Oh, damn. I did not know that last bit. Correct. So yeah, he gets teleported.

Going to Mars is an inaugural use of the jump room. The jump room. The jump room. As Basiago gets there and starts surveying his surroundings, he knew he was going there. They didn't just like throw him in there and he just appeared in Mars. It was like, oh, I guess I'm here.

No, no, he knew this is where he was going. And he realized that as he looks around, Mars is not too dissimilar looking, at least in terms of like landscape to Earth At least according to him bar bearing everything looking red just space Mountainous, what was that? Is it just space or do you travel in time to Mars as well? Good question both he does this is just now But there is a point in time according to him that he jumps to Mars in the future

Which is where he would meet the extraterrestrials. Oh. Did they ever talk about like timelines and like messing stuff up? He kind of keeps that kind of vague and not really. Okay. All right. Okay.

No, not, not particularly. Does he mention how he gets back from Mars when he jump room dude? Oh, I think the quant, he holds onto this quantum device and that gets him home from my understanding Okay. Okay, cool. Nice. I got enough to make a ps3 game. Yeah, we're good Yeah enough to get enough to run a ps3 game. Yeah, he talks about the Martian landscape a bit in his interviews He said is very barren. I kind of had a ruggedness to it towering volcanoes yawning canyons that scarred the planet surface

While a profound quote-un unquote stillness permeated the air by basically just desolate. It's very much using very flowery words to describe desolate. What year was this that he wrote this information? He wrote all this information. No, but like what year? Oh, talking about the Mars stuff. This is you're looking at like the 90s, 80s-ish, late eighties, early nineties. I think this is his book. Interesting. Yeah. Okay.

Trying to see if we knew about the actual, yeah, like how much we knew about Mars. I honestly don't know what our Martian like a landscape knowledge was in the eighties. I feel like we must've seen it before we've been there, right? Like we must have. Yeah, I think, yes, I think they were pictures. I think we've, we've known about it by the time this had come out. Oh, sure, sure, sure. I'm talking about like detail wise. No, I think I, yes, he had seen pictures and I know he sees pictures about certain things because we're going to reference that in a minute. Beyond that, like he just continues to talk about how barren it is.

But then he goes on to say that beyond the barrenness of the planet, there are things that aren't being shown in images to the public about Mars. We're talking reminiscent ancient ruins that bear enigmatic symbols and hieroglyphs that are etched upon the faces of these ruins. Vast dust laden planes stretch towards the horizon and their surfaces, he says, are pockmarked with craters and canyons and these ruins throughout. And then there's the heat, what he calls the awe inspiring Olympus Mons, the solar system's most colossal volcano. He talks about how that cool that looks in person.

So yeah, there's obviously like ancient aliens lived there at some point as well. And some point in the future, there are also going to be aliens there. That's so funny that that's like the vibe with Mars, like every like writer is like, there were people on Mars, but no longer. Yeah, yes, very much. It's really, really like a trope for some reason. Interesting. Despite like, and these talks about the hazards of like, the rarefied atmosphere that pose respiratory challenges, he talks like he

wasn't wearing safety gear, and that he kind of just went as himself, like without any like space suits on. So did John Carter, dude. So did John Carter. But John Carter was like naked, dude. He could just like, they had different gravity. It's true. And he could jump really far because of the different gravity. Yeah. He was, he was like Superman on Mars. He was like Goku without the weights. Yeah, dude. It was on his second excursion to Mars that he would be joined by a partner by somebody else who was also an Indigo child raised in the in the project Pegasus, just like him, somebody who had special abilities, just like him, that everybody within this podcast knows. Oh, Alex Fasciani.

Hold on. I am now. I need to know. I had a guess, but you mean we know them? Not know them personally. We know them as a, as a person. Like we didn't know John F. Kennedy. Oh, we're guessing.

Okay. Who is it? He went with none other than a young Barack Obama. I believe, you know what? I believe all this now. Oh my God. Oh my God. Barry went to Mars. Absolutely. This just went from like typical like Mathis finds a crazy guy who pretends like he was in the military episode to like, to like, this is now like, I don't even know where we're at now. Like now we're just like in like this guy's crazy ride. Like this is not even is the implication.

Like, oh, when did this story come out where he said Barack Obama Obama's presidency. So this, all right. This is either, this is rough because this either is a he's like Obama was there. And that's, you know, why he got a bunch of crimes that I saw B suddenly really racist. Like there's like, we are in doesn't get racist. It doesn't get racist. I'm just saying though, like we're in that spot where he's like, how else could he be in charge? Because he was part of the secret experiment. He went to Mars and he says future power. I ran for the president too. And I didn't win.

What does that tell you? Yeah, what does that tell you? Why is he chosen? Not me. Like that's what, you know. The only thing he says is Barack Obama isn't his actual name. His real name is Barry Sotero. Okay.

Okay, all right. But it was changed in project Pegasus like many because they can't, you know, especially since he was going to become president. And they went with Barack Obama. That's what they changed it to. Yep, that was what they went with. Yeah. Yep. He was, was he Barack Sotero? He just says Barry Sotero is all he says. So I don't know. Okay. Barry Sotero. He doesn't give any, any, he doesn't

elongate on if he meant Barack with Barry or not. Just, just for the record, just for the record, his name was Barry. Yep. But then the government, yeah, he chose. Barry. Then he wrote an autobiography of his own life. Like I mean, entire life story. That's what I'm saying. Like Barack, I thought Barry was his nickname, but you're telling me that the, like the man changed his name from Barry and he just was like, you know what?

Americans love him to throw Hussein right in the middle of that and then run for president. I mean, it doesn't make any fucking sense, but top of mind, Jesse, you know, maybe the government already decided that Obama was going to be president. So it didn't matter what his name was going to be. He got put into office and yeah, it was subliminal. Uh, voting is what they call it. Subliminal. Yes.

Subliminal voting. That's all it took. They see his saying and they, they it's top of mind, right? Cause of, uh, politics. So then they check it. Right, right, right, right. When they set this plan up years ago, back in the nineties, it's all in and what you can think about.

Yep. Yeah. Yeah. Barry Sotero, Very Sotero. Very Sotero. Yeah. Uh, this claim that he had like encountered Obama was part of this. This Tori, this story took such a hold on like a subsect of the public that the white house hadn't had officially had to respond to the claim. So this sounds right. An article from the wired and it's back when he was addressing the claim says,

officially, the White House says Obama never went to Mars. And then they say the White House, I know, I know, it's official. And then the White House said, quote, only if you count watching Marvin the Martian, Tommy Vieter, the spokesman for the National Security Council tells Wired. With his P34 modulator. Yeah, yeah. But that's exactly what the secret chrononauts want you to believe. Barry, get back here. Our invasion of Earth begins at sunset.

Barry Hussein Sotero, we are placing you deep into cover as Barack Obama. They'll never expect it coming. Um, funnily enough, this group, Obama wasn't the only one that was making this weird voyage as Barry Sotero. The 19 year old Obama was one of 10 youths selected to secretly teleport to and from Mars, forming a band of interplanetary sort of teen titans. This again is from Wired. Regina Dugan, the director of DARPA, was also another supposed member of this group going

to Mars. And it was taking place between the years of 1981 and 1983, and Obama is supposed to have visited Mars twice by way of teleportation chamber from the jump room. bossy I'll go who was another chrono not as they deemed it went on to tell the website that exo politics that the website was called exo politics. Obama quote, walk back to the jump room from across the Martian terrain. To acknowledge his comrade Obama is said to have told Basiago. We're here, apparently with some, with what he says, uh, with what Basiago said is some sense of fatalism in his, in his tone of voice.

Like Han Solo look at me like that as all I can do for an Obama profession. That's all I can do. No, no, dude, I'm impressed. You went for it. You gotta give it a shot. You might as well. Your dogs got hype when you did that Barack Obama. Yeah, they were like, is that the president? Everyone knows dogs voted Obama back in the day. I would want Bark Obama.

Big with dogs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So apparently he said, we're here with a sense of fatalism to it. I don't know why. What does that mean?

I don't know. I just implied like that, like there's some like drama between Obama and Mars He was deadly serious. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah fucking here. It's not known What exactly Obama did on Mars while he was there? I think he smoked weed and he inhaled hot Yeah, weed I think pretty sure held it in for a long time and then he was high for several hours That's where I got the tan suit. He went to Mars to buy His Taylor Martian. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I was so weird. According to boss Iago, all we know is that his mission was a perilous one. The CIA wished to quote

established a defense regime protecting the earth from threats from space, as well as a legal claim to territorial sovereignty, making Obama, Obama, maybe he was there as something of like a Martian, like a diplomat or something to like, kind of like trying to establish a human presence on the planet. Okay. So what you're saying to me is anyone who said anything shitty about Obama really that man was out there establishing intergalactic communications with other species and y'all Oh, him. Thanks is what I'm hearing.

He'd be a safe from Romulans. And I appreciate it. Yeah. Oh my God. Is he Zephyr Cochran? Is he our Zephyr Cochran? Kind of is. You just went, all you had to do was walk in one small step into the jump room.

Yeah, that was it. All you had to do was walk in one small step into the jump room. Yeah, that was it. Apparently, uh, one of the other chrononauts retired army major ed dames is allegedly have told a young Obama that simply put your task is simple, uh, uh, is to be seen and not be eaten. What? Yep. Simply put your task is to be seen and not eaten.

Simply put, don't get your ass eat. Or do. I mean, if you're into it, I'm not going to judge. What the fuck is going on on Mars? I don't know. Mars gets down. Yeah, no shit. Like, clearly. Why are people getting eaten on Mars and by what?

I don't know. They don't fucking say. He never fucking says. Maybe he says it in another book that I did not read. Like, I don I don't understand. I don't know what the fuck he was doing out there That's just not where I thought we were at with Mars like based on anything that you has said thus far I didn't imagine that there was gonna be like maybe it's a joke. Maybe it's like one of those things where he's like don't get eat Because like the aliens are vegetarians or something. You know what I mean? Sure. Maybe sure maybe they are Because like the aliens are vegetarians or something. You know what I mean? Yeah, maybe. Sure. Maybe they are. Regardless, Basiago, this like through the jump chamber, he got a lot of experience in that coupled with

him being a prodigy and indigo child or an indigo teen now, I guess at this point, um, uh, this expertise coupled with his still youthful perspective on everything, allegedly position positioned him as a trusted advisor to many of the project's leaders. He describes himself as a bridge between scientific minds leading the research and the project's directors grappling with the ethical and philosophical ramifications of time travel and teleportation. He recounts advocating for the creation of a comprehensive ethical framework to govern the technologies.

Allegedly he argued that time travel missions should be undertaken with extreme caution and only for clearly defined purposes, such as gathering historical information or preventing catastrophic events from happening. He also reportedly expressed concerns about the potential for paradoxes and unintended consequences urging for thorough simulations and risk assessment before deploying into the jump room. Ah, I have a question. Yeah.

How do they simulate? How do they simulate the effects of a paradox? Fantastic question. Okay. Good. All right. Yeah. That's all I got for you.

Sorry. Yeah. Thank you guys. He says they use the chrono visor and studied the chrono visor a lot to prepare for these missions. Oh, so wait, hold on. It's chrono visor. Like when, uh, Dr. Strange was like, I looked into the future and there's only one way for us to win. Like that kind of, I'm sure. I think actually, yes. I think you might be right. I think maybe the more

important question is how does he view time paradoxes? Like, is it the back to the future paradox or is it the multiverse theory? This is why you never want to write time travel into your plots because you just you have to define so much. Yeah. And then it just becomes just chaos that you can no longer control. So low comes in and just says, it's just story. Just chill.

I feel like. If he was talking about, I feel like traveling back in time is so much easier to think about than traveling forward yet traveling back in time has more paradoxical problems while traveling forward. You can just bullshit the entire thing, but it's like the future doesn't exist yet. So like there's, yeah, it feels like traveling forward, you can just bullshit the entire thing, but it's like, the future doesn't exist yet. So how, like there's, yeah, it feels like traveling forward in time is like almost meaningless cause it's like almost impossible that you would end up in the same future that you, yeah, like would end up in if you waited, right?

Cause there's so many variables to travel in time, then maybe that's what's supposed to happen. But yeah, then you would be there at the time you would travel forward into it. Right. Make any sense. Yeah, it gets all fucked. With his influence continuing in regards to teleportation and time travel, he also claims to have been the champion for safety protocols that went beyond simply ensuring

a subject arrived at their destination in one piece. He says he was pushed for extensive medical and psychological evaluations prior to any teleportation attempts to identify and mitigate any potential risks posed by the stresses of transdimensional travel on the human body and mind. He also advocated for limitations on travel distances, arguing that the further one trap ventured, the greater the chance of unforeseen complications arising from distortions in the space time continuum.

Additionally, he obviously yeah, obviously. Additionally, he reportedly called for a complete ban on any attempts to teleport living beings to uncharted territories or potentially hostile environments, arguing that the risks of sending someone into the unknown was just simply too great. He believed that uncrewed, like frozen to believe that uncrewed probes should be used for initial scouting missions for any new destination, ensuring a baseline level of safety before allowing human subjects to

venture there. So, you know, common sense safety protocols for technology that definitely exists. He also further alleges that he played a key role in the development of any new improved versions of the chronovisor and shit that came along. He was very much part of that stuff. And he, and some of the fun places he teleported to during all this stuff, he was at Gettysburg. He claims that he was, he transported back to Gettysburg, Pennsylvania on November 19th, 1863, and got to listen to Abraham Lincoln's Gettysburg address. As you would do as everyone, as every cool person would do. Yeah. And this was one of the journeys that he would, that was just like an experiment.

He wasn't supposed to do anything, get involved, take anything. He was supposed to just get there, listen to the Gettysburg address and then get back. Like just make, just see if it could work. Sure. Yeah. He, uh, he, he counts his trip in detailed and vivid memory. He describes being ushered into a nondescript building into into the jump room, and inside they entered that brightly lit area, blinking lights. They were told that this is the, they kind of talked about the jump room safety protocols

before the process of teleportation happened, which he always described as disorienting and unsettling. And after they arrived at their destination, he said he found himself amidst a throng of people gathered near a raised platform, and he recognized Abraham Lincoln standing right in front of him. And he just talks about what it was like to be there. What do you recognize from the dollar bill? How did he recognize? Well, how did he recognize his ass?

Is there even a fucking picture of his ass anywhere? There is like one, right? Or what? Abe Lincoln? Yeah. Yeah. Abe Lincoln. Yeah.

But we have like, I feel like you would know Abe Lincoln. If you saw him, you would see the mud and chops. Although I guess everyone else would kind of look similar. Yeah, I guess it's true. But Abe Lincoln was like notoriously tall, wasn't he? Did he ever mention like, how they handled the different garb that he would wear when he would travel like this? Like, did he go? when he would travel like this like ready to go. Yeah. I'm dressed up as he said. So here's the thing. He says he felt uncomfortable because his attire stuck out compared to everybody else.

So clearly the answer is no. They just sent him back and like sent him back in his normal fucking clothing. I imagine they took away like his wristwatch and shit. That's like clear technology. But beyond that, like he said, it's he's like, I felt out of place because my clothing just didn't belong in the time period. Like, okay, so, okay, whatever. The other place he talks about having gone is Ford's theater, because he was there during the assassination of President

Abraham Lincoln as well. Well, that he was sure it was all part of the project, the secret government project again, there to just kind of gather information. He said the atmosphere, he was close enough, but not within the box itself to see the shooting. So, you know, just bizarre nonsense. He didn't try to stop it? No, he did not.

It was another one of those information gathering like missions. It was to observe, not interrupt. Right, exactly. It sounds like an observer from French, really. Sure, but you also did say that they, you said they'd stopped catastrophic events if necessary. Yeah. And I imagine ones that like aren't supposed to happen.

I don't understand what he means by world ending events, probably like the observers. Oh my God. Just like umbrella Academy. So he looks into the future shirt and he says, this is about to go down. And then he goes and handles it. Or, or ones in the past that need our, our time traveling intervention to prevent, which is why they didn't happen in the first place. But did they already occur or they are about to happen in the past? Think 18, maybe like 1801, a giant comet is crashing into earth.

It's going to destroy all of humanity, But time travelers know about it happening already existing. How would they know? And they go back to stop it because. It already stopped. I don't fucking, listen, this is why I don't write time travel in it. And if it doesn't exist, then how would they know to go back and stop it?

No, they stopped it from happening. So like, they like, maybe they broke the comet up. I don't know. Right, but by stopping from happening, it never existed. So how would they know in the future that it happened? No, it happened. They just stopped it by like blowing up the comet instead. Not letting me write. So then it never happened. But maybe they, okay. So maybe they have a tech.

How would they know? This is multiversal theory is what you're trying to say, Jesse. That's the answer. Yeah. I'm saying it doesn't, it doesn't clock. The new thing was created when they went back and stopped it. Yeah. Hyper time is what we want. Yeah. So there's also timelines where they just didn and stopped it. Yeah. Hyper time is what we want. Yeah. So there's also timelines where they just didn't. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm my brain hurts. I don't feel like what's the point if that's how it goes? Like, why are you giving us a good question? Make any goddamn sense? Good question. I don't know. I don't know what I mean. I spent a week reading about this bullshit.

Please stop pulling at the strings. It's all held together with duct tape, hope and spit. That's all I got, man. It's all he got. Oh God. And as the years went on with his active participation within Project Pegasus, he claims that he became increasingly disillusioned with the project's objectives and methods. He describes this growing sense of unease and ethical discomfort as he witnessed the potential for these technologies to be used for nefarious purposes instead of the utopian outlook that

he was promised. He also recounts- Like Timecop. I've never seen Timecop. I just don't understand the reference ever. I'm going to keep saying it because everything we talk about on the show is slowly becoming Timecop. He also recounts- have you seen Timecop, JP?

Oh yeah. Van Damme's classic Timecop. It's fantastic. He also recounts instances of internal corruption and power struggles within the project, which further eroded his faith in its leadership and goals. As a result, he claims to have made the difficult decision to distance himself and leave project Pegasus seeking to expose its secrets and warn the world of its potential dangers to the world.

Oh, I mean, it's a good thing the government doesn't care enough to stop him from doing that. Well, yeah, what's even crazier is that after he left, he still claims that he time travels. And so that implies one of two things. He stole a device from the project that allows him to do so the jump room or something, another technology that didn't talk about like a new secret, like portable version of the jump room. Or is someone is sneaking him into the jump room. But it's like, why and what's the point? I don't understand.

It is not talks about it. Insane. He just, he just does, he just glosses over that. Is it like the watches in Avengers? Maybe. Were they synchronized and go through like, he just, he's like, I don't need the whole pad. Just the watch will do. Yeah, maybe, maybe that's what it is.

So he's just like, so I traveled to the future and he doesn't explain how anymore don't need the whole pad just the watch will do yeah maybe maybe that's what it is so he's just like so I traveled to the future and he doesn't explain how anymore after he leaves the leaves it do like kind of kind of up in the air as to how he's doing it and it's kind of bizarre because I just don't he went out to such lengths to describe the project in its tech and now that he's out of the project he almost wants to keep that plot line part of his story but without explaining how he's doing it, it really, it kind of makes no sense. Not that much of this makes sense in the first place. But he said at this point, his departure was a huge turning point in his life and he was

left for years, grappling internally and emotionally with the implications of his experiences, wrestling with himself with the ethical and moral complexities of what he did with time travel and teleportation, and he describes a period of self-reflection, kind of soul searching as he sought to try and reconcile with what he just went through his entire life and with his newfound understanding of the potential dangers for these technologies, which is the reason we didn't get a book about this until way, way, way, way later.

And so driven by the sense of responsibility and desire to warn the world, this is where Basiago claims to have embarked on a mission to expose the truth about Project Pegasus. He alleges to have reached out to journalists, researchers, government officials, sharing his firsthand accounts and providing evidence to support his claims. However, his efforts were met with obvious skepticism and fucking people just ignoring his messages outright. What do we know? Do we know when he left? He claims he left in like the mid to late 80s.

It was shortly after his trip with to Mars with Obama a few years after that. So that was like 80s late 80s or so. Okay, is when he left and then he spent the next essentially like 10 years, you know, getting over it before he would start writing, you know, trying to do interviews and writing books and planning his presidential campaign. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think Barack Obama got the idea from him? He was like, if he can run, I can run. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. You're telling me this dude ran. Well, you mean Barry, Barry, Barry, Barry. Yeah. So Tarot. Yeah. This real name. You're telling me this dude ran. Well, you mean Barry. Barry. Barry. Barry Sawterio.

Yeah, Sawterio. Yeah. His real name. You gotta call him his real name. Now that we know it. Yeah, we might as well. So he began, obviously, despite the setbacks of like trying to reach out to media and media just saying go away, he persisted regardless, believing, according to him, that the world

had a right to know the truth. So he published articles, gave interviews, spoke at conferences, sharing his experience with anybody he could get to fucking listen to him. And then that's how he kind of started his like cult-like kind of public figure that like within like the depth of conspiracy theory, like he started stirring about and he started getting as most people do, ardent supporters and mixed with staunch critics. Lots of people hailed him as a whistleblower and a visionary for a potential future that our earth could have, while others labeled him as a fraud and

a con man, which makes, you know, I will make no judgment. I'm here simply to produce the facts. Over time, his story gained more traction, attracting the attention of a wider audience and his claims resonated with those who believed in the possibility of time travel and, of course, secret government projects. He became kind of a symbol of hope for those who felt marginalized and disenfranchised by I would say the US government, and it makes sense with his story of the bright future that he's fighting for and the utopian world that he believes this technology give us if only the government would make it public and stop using it for

nefarious purposes. His story, after he leaves, beyond the public claims, we know that Basiago is and was an actual attorney specializing in environmental law. That's extra, extra embarrassing. Isn't that what RFK specializes into? I don't know. Actually, I have no idea what RFK specializes into. Does that mean he's an indigo child too? Is that where he got the brain worm?

It could be. Dude, it's the brain worms from the boys. Is that a star child? Yo, it's just like the Goal Bro. It's Stargate the goal bro. It's dark. S G one brainworm was a goal. Yeah, man. He's a goal. Is that what those owls are too? Other than running for office. He also, I just

want you to know, like he ran for president. The last time he ran for president was 2016 under what party independent. How old was he? Or is he, uh, he was born in a 1967. Oh, okay. He's not that old. So he's like 50, 58. No, cause remember he was scooped into this at the age of six, man. 59, right? What am I thinking? No. Yeah. So I had something like that. I think you're somewhere around there. Is he running in 24? I'll vote for him. No, he's not running in 24 as far as I can see. No, yeah, so I had something like that. I think you're somewhere around there. Is he running in 24? I'll vote for him You know, no, he's not running in 24 as far as I can see no 2016 was the last time he ran it looks like okay And he has authored Beyond that he's authored multiple books including the one that I mentioned before the discovery of life on Mars

And then the other book called Andrew boss Iago the autobiography of a time traveler Man, can you imagine writing that as like at the top of a document that you're about to write? Yeah. Alex Fossiani, the diary of a time traveler. And then I go. So I'm going to end this with a very clip. What he puts forward as the abstract of his book slash paper, the discovery of life on Mars. So he opens it. It's just a little paragraph, but he goes, the first line is there's life on Mars. Evidence that the red planet harbors life and has free hands was discovered by the author by the author being him

by examining NASA photograph PIA one zero two one four, which I went and found and I have for you, which I'll link in the group chat here on a side. Wait, so, so his entire basis is because of he's been to Mars. Nobody believes that he went to Mars himself, but this is his evidence. Okay. So the evidence is this. Oh my God.

Yeah. Didn't bring anything back using a publicly available picture as I can't wait to see what you're about to say about this image. Yeah. It's a pretty low res. I got to say. So this is a westward view of the West Valley of the Columbia basin in the Gusev crater that was taken by the Mars exploration Rover spirit in November of 2007 and being back to earth.

This photograph has been the subject of public speculation since January, 2008, when what appeared to be the figure of a woman, a human, female woman, female of a human female was found jutting from the edge of the plateau. What I'll give you about, give you a second to see if you can find it. If not, what I'm like at full zoom and I can't see shit. They mean a human female. What is it? Is it that gray shit you said on the left side? He says yes the figure human fail female was found jutting from the edge of the plateau He didn't give a sign. Is it just this little gray shit right here?

I gave you another link that is another part of the book that has an assumed in picture of what he's speaking about. Where in the fuck is that in the picture? Where's that? Yeah. That's where's that image? No fucking clue. I do not know. No idea. Oh, it's the far right side of the photograph. Okay. You've got it. There you go. Far right side. I'm looking at this photograph. Maybe it's like super tiny. It's probably mega tiny. I couldn't find it. I tried, but I couldn't find it. He goes on to say, the figure was quickly dismissed as a natural rock formation produced by wind,

water, and time. But the author, again himself, and other researchers in the Mars Anomaly Research Community, very respectable, believe that it was either a statue or the fossilized remains of a humanoid being on Mars. Intrigued by this anomaly, the author subjected PIA 10214 to further photoanalytic scrutiny and discovered that the photograph contains other images of human and animal life forms that constitute the first evidence of life on Mars. I must stress to everyone at home, how absolutely insane it is to think that scientists wouldn't be the first people to be like, there's a body on Mars. Like I, I know everyone wants to believe in coverups.

Literally they backed over a rock. Like this is all over the news. They backed over a rock on Mars and discovered in the rock was pure sulfur. And they were like, Oh shit. And they told everyone instantly. They were like, yo, we discovered sulfur on Mars, dude. That's a, I'm just letting you know. Scientists are not the same as like government officials. They would be like, body, bro.

There's a body right there. Like they immediately, they would wrap themselves out. Are you kidding me? They'd be like, they're trying to cover it up, dude, but there's a body right there. Like they immediately, they would rat themselves out. Are you kidding me? They'd be like, they're trying to cover it up, dude, but there's a body on the, on Mars body, bro. I can't trust the Mars anomaly research community. Yeah, absolutely. I feel like they're lying to you. I found a higher res version of the picture and I'm trying to find this figure and I just, yeah, I'm looking for it too. Oh, I do see it said it's in the far right. No, it's in the far left. It's in the far left. Oh, it's far left. I see it. I found it. It's definitely it's like right on the edge.

He's referring to himself in the third person, this entire paper in this paper, the author presents his initial data related to the discovery of life on Mars in PIA one zero two one four in five areas, namely evidence of humanoid beings, animal species, carved statues, built structures, and dead bodies. Life on Mars consists of intelligent bipedal hominids capable of carving statues and building structures in a variety of animal species that exist that once existed, he says, yeah, he puts both there or that have never existed on earth. Why the fuck would they put a statue in the middle of nowhere? Like there's nothing else around. Why would there be a person in the middle of like a desert that's fossilized above ground?

Well, it looks like that there's a cliff, right? So like what's on the what's underneath it? Like you think that's the top of like a tower with like a person on top? Yeah, I could see that. Also, there are many other images just looking at this that you could say that is the fossil of a body if you wanted to. Like there's one on towards like the middle right down towards the Rover on the first sort of a cliff face down into the valley where there's the thing. It looks like a dude's got like the Chewbbacca. That's what he's saying. Jesse,

that's what he's saying. The more you look at this picture, the more you see other things. Wait, couldn't you just do math by looking at this image to see how far away that would be to see the size of what that 100% and the math that's like, that's like a little tiny gnome child if that's the way. He goes on to say that the predominant species was, is reptilian. Sure. He also addresses frightening content and definitional constraints that individuals in Mars anomaly research confront when evaluating this first view by human civilization of life forms and ancient artifacts on another planet. He concludes that the discovery of life on Mars marks an apocryphal moment in human history when for the first time human beings from Earth have encountered biological organisms living

elsewhere in the cosmos. This entire 41-page paper is written because of this one photograph. Outrageous. So this is less of a, we discovered life on Mars and more of a look at this picture by saying there's life on Mars. It makes everything else. I tell you true. Yes. Yeah.

That's why that's a way closer way to look at it. And that way you can look at all these pictures. And like you said, Jesse, you can look at all those rocks and you can, your brain can eventually put together some bones because pareidelia is an actual goddamn thing. Yeah. And it just seems like you would have to ask what motivations would he have for pushing life on Mars so much. Cause he said, I've been to Mars and I hopped in cities with

aliens and saw volcanoes and shit. And so it's like, see, I'm not lying. Don't forget Obama and Obama. Right. And Barry was there. Barry knew. Has anyone ever asked Obama about this I know you said they asked the White House White House. Did he ever say it? He never responded to it

Okay, I bet you I bet you Kimmel did or something. I have not seen anything about Obama directly responding and God I wish he did. Yeah The fact that the White House had to actually say something is insane Yeah, the fact that like the it was oh it was Oh, wait to sure. It happens more than we, we know. Right? Yeah. Yeah. You're probably right. It probably does. Um, and he's still out there today, actively still doing the stuff. Um, you can even look at his, uh, web archived 2016 presidential site takes a minute to load if you care enough, but there's a link for you there. Um, if you would give a shit at all. Uh, but, uh, yeah, that's where

our story of this ends. He's still pushing as though it is real and true again, part of his, his platform is making public teleportation technology to combat global warming. No Obama run on that. I don't know, man. I don't know. Hope and change could have meant so much more back then. How does teleportation actually nevermind? No, I get it.

Teleportation would be green. Although, although it brings up another moral quandary, is it teleportation similar to Star Trek? In which case, are you the same you after you teleport? It's like ship a thesis conversation with vision and white vision. Oh shit. That's what I'm saying. That's why people wouldn't do it, dude.

Wait, this guy looks, I don't want to, he looks way more normal than what I was. Yeah. But the blurb, the blurb is like saints row. Yeah. Most people that do this are not like crazy hair, like a man like it's that's the, this YouTube link I gave you, this is the one of the interviews I listened to. This is what I mean by it looks like a 70s or 80s politician in like the 2000s still. Like he just looks like a boring man. And the thing is he's a boring man. Like the way he describes these things is like.

The person that he's talking to seems more out there than him. I love the old man also kind of constantly giving him confused blinks. They keep cutting away to the old man in the interview and he's like, I don't know what he's talking about, but I'm fucking stoned. So bizarre. He's just a normal looking dude. He doesn't look fucking crazy at all. Like if you man in the interview and he's like, I don't know what he's talking about But I'm fucking stoned so this is a normal looking dude He's not fucking crazy at all

Like if you just looked at him and was like he's running for office you like yeah, that makes sense. I guess so bizarre Yeah, and that ends our story. However of Andrew bossy. I'll go and project Pegasus the real identity of President Obama and our trips to Mars. You gotta look at his, you gotta look at his Facebook page. Holy shit. Oh, I'm finding you in looking at his Facebook page. This is great. Look at that. Look at that.

Oh my God. Holy. Oh no. This is incredible. Holy shit. Look at all those photos. The profile pic, the fucking like. Yeah.

His previous jobs all listed. Former chrono not at project pezzas. former chrono not at project. Peds is former chrono not at Mars jump room program, 1980 to 1984, baby. So many weird, so many weird ones. He was on a show called the Martian revelation in 2020 and they have a bunch of thumbnails for it and it's honestly like, how does this? It's crazy. It's just crazy. I am so mad. Is that Marsha? It's like Angry Birds. Look,

look at this. Look at that image. I just post. I don't know if that's going to load. I must. Again, again, a little racist. They made him green, green alien. They made him. They picked a terrible Obama photo and made him green. It green alien. They made him a more, they picked a terrible Obama photo and made him green. It's a, you know what? And you can just see on, on, on, uh, Basiago, he can see where he just took the eraser tool and just made a you under the rest of his body and got rid of the rest of it. I'm unsettled that I'm actually still logged into Facebook. I must stress to you, if you ever ask why would people do this? Why would they sacrifice part of their life?

And like, why would they put them to, cause you get to put yourself in a weird ass art like this, where they straight up just like Photoshop themselves with the aliens and stuff and look cool like that. People will do anything to look cool. That's not even the main character of a story that a small subset of people believe is real. Yeah. He's got all these images of him, like with Mars and like a star, the Martian revelation star gate. Oh yeah. And that is a taste for you, JP of what you illuminati is chaos. I'm just lost. He's lost in this man's Facebook page. Now this guy's Facebook dude,, this, look at this image.

Hawaiian dolphins and the multiverse. Yep, that sounds about right for this man. I've never seen something that looked more like a GeoCities photo in my entire life. Look at that woman's name who's presenting it. Joan Ocean, obviously. Joan Ocean, holy fuck. With artist John Luke Bazoli.

Dude, this is crazy. Oh God. Dude, I'm reading these, I'm reading these pages and it's like somebody asked him on his page if he thinks that Trump's going to win in 2024. And he writes this response through Michael Petrovich. It says Andrew de Basiago writes, yes, I think Trump will win in 2024 because Biden is viewed as utterly demented and absolutely incompetent, especially on the economy and by allowing 10 million or more migrants to invade the country.

This has allowed a bizarre illness to pervade the country. I myself was sick with it for all of January. So COVID is a migrant thing. I told you brother conspiracy thought always leads to weird racist. Like every time, every time, like I stopped at 2008 with this guy. I was like, you know, basically I'm saying that's it. That's all I need. Oh, little did I know.

Posted like his entire campaign, uh, in 2016 of all the different things that he's running on, like banning fracking is environmentally unsound cold fusion is the new source of affordable clean green energy. Defending water is a human right and public good. Love it. I'm moratorium on nuclear power, making Detroit a center of electric car making, preparing for disaster from global warming, protecting human beings and their environment, protecting the legality of self-reliance. Okay. See now, now, so like he started, I was like, I'm with this guy.

I like it. I like it. Now he's like, and we're going to get real weird. It's like, I'm not driving. I'm traveling, protecting the nation's forest from fire, reducing the toxicity of everyday living. All great. All that sounds so much fun.

Ah, and then achieving teleportation based transport. Yeah, there you go. Thank you. There you go. Achieving when he says reducing the toxic toxicity in my mind, I'm thinking, oh yeah, like fast food and getting it like like additives and guarantees like vaccines. Yeah, they're terrible for you. He wants to legalize weed. You know, I'm sure he does. But that was 2016. This was 2016. Andy, you're right. He did. We did get the 2016.com. Yeah, that's the 2016 website. And then now he's now it's different.

Now we got a mysterious illness. Uh, yeah, very, very how quickly that all happens and spirals out of control. Why did he run if he knew he wasn't going to win? Didn't he go to the future? But it doesn't sound so it doesn't sound like, no, actually phenomenal question. Because I think it's a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,

very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, how quickly that all happens and spirals out of control. Why did he run if he knew he wasn't going to win? Didn't he go to the future? But it doesn't sound so it doesn't sound no, actually phenomenal question. Cause I was like, well, he didn't take the chrono vision. So he didn't really, but no, he couldn't just fucking teleported himself there.

You think that by running, he act actively triggered a potential future. And that's why the people who are running the simulation have to come back and start messing with the sliders to try and find a back in normal. So my God, dude, that's exactly what it was. He tried to run knowing he would win because he saw a future. And then the current people in the time travel program came back and stopped him. Well, if by him running in 2016, that means that he'd lost and Trump won. Right?

Right. So do you think Donald Trump has a time machine? Well, these are the questions we need to ask. Oh, okay. So hang on. Yeah. I don't know if I was going to say the same thing, but there is a very deep conspiracy theory about, uh, Trump and time travel and his family. Yes. Is this true? Yes. Yes. Yes. It is something What? Something that I haven't gone into me. And I was like, it is about Baron and like, which is the same as have you seen back to the future too? I was going to ask, is it about Baron? Oh my God, it's lining up and make I hold on. Hold on. I need to math this out. Hold on. This is important. You've seen back to the future to Mathis. No, I've only seen the first one.

Gentlemen, gentlemen, I have a request. I know this will take a long time, but, um, on Wednesday, October 30th, can we make our episode that can we do that? We can do a Halloween live show this year. Cause fuck that would be, I would love. Oh my God. I would love for the, God. I would love for the the one we do right before the election to be the about the Donald Trump time. Are you kidding me? Oh, that's yeah. That's your, uh, that's your go and vote. That's one of the craziest things

I've ever heard. I love this. I yeah, right. I know I'll note that down. You want to come back for that one, JP? I'm on board. Oh, do you think that's why he hates Obama so much? Cause the two of them are time travel rivals. Oh, why is this all coming together? I don't understand how this is all coming together. You're doing better writing than Basiago. You got to take it out. You got to, you get, you're out writing the, you're out writing the master. I love this. Yeah. You could take this and run with it. You might be onto something. Jesse, I can't believe that there was a conspiracy where he's, of course there is. I just can't believe I didn't know this till now. No, wait, hold on.

Does that mean them? If the, what about the whole Mars thing? Is it just time travel or has Trump also been to Mars? I don't think Trump's been to Mars. The time travel conspiracy with Trump has to do with, uh, something called Baron Trump's marvelous underground journey, uh, which is somehow tied to this. But this is a text in like, don't do this bit. No, we can't.

Yeah. Okay. That's the only trailer. That's the only trailer you get. That's the only trailer you get. That's the only trailer. If you want. Yeah.

You're going to have to wait. I'm going to put the episode together. You know what? Can I, can I tell you something even more funny during the eighties and nineties, someone named Baron would contact, uh, newspaper outlets to tell them stories about Donald Trump. And everyone assumed it was just Donald Trump putting on a voice, but what if bro, here's your little visual. Here's your little visual teaser. And this is an image from the book. And it's supposedly also it is actual like Donald Trump's kid, young Baron Trump as well. Like it's supposed to be maybe him and he's time traveling

or something. What? Why is this show never ending? You know what I mean? Like this is infinite. Shit like this is everywhere. there's a little person in his left and his left arm. Oh, oh, there is a little person in his left arm. Right. Is that a dog?

That's a dollar. If that, cause the dog is on the far right. That's the Buddha. That's Siddhartha, bro. That's Siddhartha, man. That's the, that's, oh my God. What the hell is this? You literally sent me someone's drawing of one of the like

sages from Legend of Zelda. I don't know what I'm looking at. The number of a trailer. Yeah, that's all you're getting. That's all you're getting. That's incredible. That has to be your, uh, your, your podcast thumbnail for that episode is this. Oh my God. Absolutely. Oh, we have to do this right down the calendar. This must happen. I've never been more invested.

Oh my God. Yes. That's so yeah. I'm surprised you didn't know about that. Honestly, Jesse, that's like something around. Why would I know about that around since when I stumbled across it was when Trump was running for president the first time like 2016 Yeah, he's been around for a long fucking time. It's wild

Yo, I'm gonna say crazy people You wild but like I enjoy you I'm here for it. The picture is so good. It's such a beautiful drawing. It's very it is it's It looks nothing like that child Well, I don't when he was little maybe when he was little, little, when he was younger, this was supposed to be when he was younger, like compare it to like back before you got in a feud with him. Jesse. Yeah.

That's it for our episode today. Thank you, JP, for joining us in, uh, coming along on a crazy journey. As I enjoy bringing many of our guests along, where could people find you? Uh, they want more of you. Sure. Uh, yeah, I'm, I'm kind of everywhere is a, it me JP. You can find me on Twitter or I guess X, uh, as they call it, YouTube, Twitch, all the places, uh, just search it up and you can find me pretty simple. All right. P MCU crew. Thanks, Jesse for, yeah, Jesse killed it.

I, what he killed it. Just don't kill him. See crew. Just love MCU crew. We're going to have to get a time machine. Thanks, Jesse for yeah, Jesse killed it. I what he killed it just don't kill him see crook Just love MCU crew gonna have to get a time machine. We were just talking about doing something for Deadpool We're gonna have to get a time machine. He's doing Red Hulk. You gotta be careful. He's turning into Red Hulk. Oh God be careful. No Careful, we're off to go do a mini-sode for everybody over at patreon.com slash human iPod. Thank you guys so much for supporting us We appreciate you. We love you. Bye. Bye

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