Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 274 - Bigfoots 5 Toes ft. Jacob Wysocki

Episode Date: November 17, 2024

Jacob Wysocki from Dropout join the boys as Alex teaches us all about Bigfoot hunting and safety, ZACH! MERCH - http://www.theyetee.com/collections/chilluminati ZocDoc - http://www.zocdoc.com/chill HeroForge - http://www.heroforge.com All you lovely people at Patreon! HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Show art by - https://twitter.com/JetpackBraggin http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro NOTES Jacob's Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/jacob-lawrence-wysocki Night Raiders BTM Photos: https://mothership.sg/2020/12/btmm-2020/ The Legend of Boggy Creek Movie Clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEvbmZoD8Us Grassman MonsterQuest Clip: https://www.history.com/videos/grassman-sighting Mande Burung Expedition Photos from Jon McGowan: http://www.thenaturalstuff.co.uk/india/mande_burong/photos.php

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I am one of your hosts Mike Martin today joined by oh shit I forgot their names. Bubbles, Blossom and Buttercup of LA. There we go. The what? The Bubbles, Blossom and Buttercup of LA. Come on you don't cartoon knowledge. The Powerpuff Girls? Powerpuff Girls. So we're all three of knowledge the powerpuff girls powerpuff girls

So we're all three of us are powerpuff Alex Jesse and special guest. Yeah, welcome to the show Hey, you better watch your mojo Jojo Buttercup is the mean one. She's green. I'm Buttercup today. I'm Buttercup. Yeah, you had a Buttercup kind of day today. I had a Buttercup day. I'm Buttercup. Burn this place down.

You kind of just sat down. You're like, today was horrible. It's just fucking the corn. Is that the green one? Yeah. Yeah. Which one's the stupid one? Well, Bubbles is the emotional one. She cries a lot.

Alex then. In blue. For sure. Alex. That's me. All right, Blossom's like the team leader. Like the... That'll be Jake. I'll step up. Yeah, that that's a special guest that I can't say yet. Yeah. Wow. And I'm like the scientist that birthed all three of you with weird chemicals. Hard professor. Oh, God. Professor X. No. No. What's his name? He has his name is a pun, but Napier. His name is Professor Mick Napier his name is professor Nick Nick Napier. Uh, okay

Single Second of anyone's time. Let's welcome Jacob to the show today Jacob is a comedian and actor from La Mida, California aka the South Bay of Los Angeles He starred in movies and television opposite the likes of John C Riley Keegan Michael Key Scott Aukerman Aubrey Plaza ring a bell the likes of John C. Reilly, Keegan-Michael Key, Scott Aukerman, Aubrey Plaza, Ring a Bell. You've probably seen him do live improv or sketch comedy around Los Angeles or heard him on one of the many podcasts he's done sometime in the last 15 years, or you probably had a class with him at UCB or something like that if you're one of those kids in LA who knows where Byrd's is.

He's the guy who puts his hand in that blender in that one webcam movie, Unfriended. Most recently, you've probably seen his excellent short film, Tundra Rave, or formed a new parasocial relationship with him through his fan-favorite appearances on the dropout streaming service where my boy is crushing it. See him this Sunday, the 17th, 1 p.m. at Vulture Festival in East LA, or check out his parody songs on SoundCloud. Link for those is in the description of this show. And also, I should say he's a good, good man who I've known since I was like 16 years old and I love him very much in a real human way.

Jacob Waisaki, welcome. Simply was up, dude. Can you send me a copy so I can send that copy to every PR person that I ever interact with for the next 15 years? That rocked. Yeah. I feel woefully underqualified for my own show after that. I mean, you are. OK, well, what the fuck, Jesse?

We started this together on day one. How am I unqualified then, too? But here we are. Yeah, somehow we've all made it. Now, part of the reason why we actually show today is because organically, without knowing that we are old pals, more than a few listeners grabbed that clip from a few months ago where you're kind of justifying your choice of Bigfoot as the cryptid you want to blaze with most. Oh, hell yes.

And came to us on our subreddit and said, these guys are long lost brothers. So first question I want to ask you is- Little do they know? Yeah. I want what do you think it's weed? Why do you think it's weed and apes for us? What do you think that is? Is it the physical resemblance? Why is it weed and why is it apes? You know I think it's weed because of Southern California and that's not neither of our faults. I'll take that guilty as charged on that radical. Yeah radical placement theory there Yeah apes. I think it's uh, I think we get get like how good it is

Yeah Maybe like Like have a little bit of a longing. Yeah, we're smoking at the highest at the best of our intelligence Yeah, the bigfoot that has like weed growing out of its fur, like naturally. Sure, sure, sure, yeah. We're actualized. Like a mossy weed out of their own fur.

Yeah, pluck a nug. Ooh. I'll lean into the ape thing. I don't mind. Pluck a nug. That could, we could, god, I gotta write that down. There's something we could do with that. Just naturally, I think it's what most people spend the most time at a zoo looking at.

That's true. I think, I think when you think about the spread of a zoo and the time spent organically, people spend the most time at the at the apes or the monkeys. And then you got probably a bear would be like second or whatever. But I think there's just something about it where you're like really clued in and you're like, it's just so not that different. Yeah, I used to get ape and bear a lot. Now I kind of have left the bear behind. I'm kind of just kind of like an ape guy now in general, other people's minds.

I don't know, that's just what is reflecting back at me. Wait, wait, where do we, where does this conversation, wait, what? What do you mean? I know exactly what you I know exactly. You are just an ape. Yeah, dude. Like I'm just saying, like in the public perception, right? People give me back ape all the time. Nowadays, people just tell me, oh, you're like an ape. I just get you look sickly.

People like, dude, you look like an ape. I post a picture of a monkey I post a picture of monkey go go to the official Chibati Chibati account. I post a picture of a monkey They say why is Alex in that picture? Hey that's it happen. He's not wrong that yeah, it does happen. That's it That's just real. Okay. Yeah. So anyway, so I asked this question to every guest. Where do you actually stand on this stuff? Like in our personal lives, you're somebody that I like sort of turn to as like a more in tune

kind of spiritual type of guy but like what do you say? Are ghosts real? Are aliens real? Are cryptids real? Are the conspiracy theories you believe? Where do you land on those on those topics? Well, I guess the I should start with the most obvious thing, which is I think science is fake. Always has been. Always will be. Yeah, totally. Science is the most fake thing ever. No, I, you know, I, I think I like, am probably farther on the side of believing in fun things more than most people. I often interact with people who or find myself in situations with people who believe a lot more strongly than I do or or or they've

burrowed into a tunnel much deeper than I could ever imagine burrowing as far as like a special interest. Yeah, but I think it is fun to entertain all ideas and all possibilities and cryptids ghosts specters ghouls curses and all that stuff. Smithy. What up buddy? He's just doing his thing. He's just a dog. Yeah, he's just gotta be a guard dog. He heard you're about to spill the truth about UFOs and aliens. It's like

don't do it. Don't come for you. Don't do it. Yeah. So I guess what I'm trying to say is I believe and I think it's really fun to believe. I definitely have some boundaries where I'm like, yeah, I'm not going to really go deeper than I than I am here. Like, I don't really think I believe in vampires, really. Yeah, that's Yeah. Yeah. But that also at the end of the day feels weirdly kind of almost hypocritical or like a little strange to be like, I believe in the big hairy ape. I believe in the Fay, but like, I don't believe in vampires. So that's like in of itself, I create my own problems where it's like, if I'm not believing in it at all,

how can I believe in some? People kind of like have made a little mood ring using us as the thing. Jesse's very staunchly like a skeptic. Math is, especially with aliens, but with a lot of stuff is very much more all in. And I'm kind of like Tony Shalhoub in Galaxy Quest. Like I'm just kind of like, I just enjoy the notion of it.

You know? Yeah. And so I, yeah, I don't know. I feel like most people fall into one of those three categories. Like if you believe it and you don't really care whether it's true, I feel like that's something. I feel like that's different than being like, you know, you wake up every day and Bigfoot is sitting there in the woods waiting for

you. If you can find them. Yeah, I definitely don't need to prove it. I don't need to make my art about it. Like, uh, like I don't need to. I think there are people who are like, like I've met people who like believe in a way where they're like everything I do outside of, well, let me say that again, like all of my leisure is dedicated to like making sculptures of Bigfoot. Right. And like high art.

They're radical and they look amazing. But it's like that's what you're spending your entire and I feel like that's there's a calling there. There's a signal that speaks to an amount of time. Yeah. Yes, and you cannot deny to amplify that signal. You simply have to. I don't feel that deeply about these things. It's more fun.

It's a novelty. Stories are cool. My dad always did a great job of being like, well, what if? What if? What if the rocks were put there by this or whatever? So I just try and chase that what if. Yeah, I vibe that. It's for culture.

You got to. Somebody's got to at least entertain it, I feel like. So what about personal stories in the family? Do you have your own that one time? Or are there any good family tales that you remember that you want to talk about? I always ask this because there's always some gold. For sure, for sure. I don't think like, I don't think that I've ever had like a shared experience with like my mom and my dad in a way.

But I, there's one that, I think the thing that convinced me is the thing that I have is like the earliest memory of something spectral happening is that me and my good friend Justin Gardner were hanging out in my garage and I saw something and it was like a green glowing man who was uniform and had like a hard hat. And he was essentially like floating from my left to my right, past my view, walking down the driveway. I saw this very, very clearly. I was probably 10, 11 years old.

I went to Justin and said, "'What did you see?' went to Justin and said, what did you see? And he described green man, uniformed, hard hat, moving left to right. Same exact scientific. I did not leave the witness. I did not leave the witness. And that like, that's just stuck with me for years. It stuck with me for years and one time this was like maybe like. You know. I'm like that was like 10. I'm like 10 years old. You weren't doing much.

Yeah. Is what I'm making sure. Yeah. I wasn't like accidentally too skipped up on Mountain Dew or whatever. But like there was a Thanksgiving or Justin was around visiting and I must have been like 25, 26. And we brought up that experience and my mom revealed and this had never been revealed before, but I lived behind a power plant substation and in the 80s a dude was electrocuted working on the lines. Oh Jesus Christ. Oh my god. Hardhat uniform green transformer like it all was talking about electricity. Me and Justin both just like kind of fell

silent and like had those goosebumps and it it was just like, whoa, whoa. That's the kind of ghost story I want to know. That's the kind of ghost story I want to have where it's like the detail, the history corroborating history detail. I love that. That alone would have me forever going what if for sure. For sure. And like that's it truly is the crux of it all and uh it keeps the what if going um and I've had I would say a handful of other strange experiences that were you know not as like vivid or apparitional but like pretty trippy and pretty wild um my neighbor was a ghost hunter for

a while and you take me on a couple of calls, which was always really excellent. And that seems for the most part. Yeah, for the most part, pretty neutral. You pretty have like a neutral experience. And yeah, I figure like most of them would be like pretty much nothing. Yeah, there was one experience where it was like really weird. And I like I was like really weird and I like,

I was like, we gotta go. Like it's time to leave. Well, first of all, the plate, the, the like, she called us, it was in Palace Verde's. It was in that like, kind of like the Pedro side of things, which will be, uh, yeah. Yeah. Like if you are from there, it's like on the big long PV drive, it's like closer to San Pedro than to the rich people side of

things, right? Yeah. But it's still like a pretty nice house. I'm trying to think of the best way to make this story brief. We go in, she tells us about some stuff. The husband's left the brother's left Um, she's the only one left in the home because of what's been going on. We set up a couple cameras in different rooms and Uh, I specifically like Was like don't tell us anything

Let me just walk through the house set up the cameras. So we set up a couple cameras walk through the house There's one part of the house that 10 degrees colder. Just frigid. That's a big jump. It's a big jump and it felt dense and nasty and it was like hard to walk through and it was bad and it was gross. Of course, that's the area once we said,

start telling us the story, this was the problem room, was the room that was cold, was the us the story, this was the problem room. Was the room that was cold, was the room that was dense. She was kind of kooky though, and something felt like slightly off. I do remember checking the cabinets for if she was like a pill head, nothing spicy. Yeah, okay.

It's a bold thing to do, but I appreciate the... I mean, you have to take every avenue to like disprove this stuff, you know? So that area was really dense, and it was like very clear that like this place was like kind of unsettling, and it definitely had driven two grown people out of the space.

That's crazy to me. The cameras were still rolling, and we were taking pictures. This guy particularly was really into orbs. He really believed in the orb of it all. So he was really into flash photography, looking for the orbs. The last straw was she had pulled up all of this really nice Italian tile in the foyer living room area and exposed the bare concrete.

And she was kind of looking at it. And she was like, start taking pictures of the concrete. Start taking some pictures. She's like, do you see the skulls? This swirl, it kind of looks like a skull, right? And I was like, OK, OK, OK, OK. And then she was like, no, take pictures like this. And then she was trying to point out what she saw in the picture from the

camera and all that stuff. And then she had us like step back and was like, no, take like a wider picture. And she said, I'll never forget. Can't you see, can't you see through the, isn't the concrete invisible to you? Can't you see the pit, the pit where this, they fed the little girls to the snakes. like, you know, you're invisible to you. Can't you see the pit? The pit where this they fed the little girls to the snakes. Gotta go. It was just like,

yeah, but it was like unrehearsed and true. Does that make sense? Like, yeah, she was very genuine. She met like a like a monster movie person. Yeah. Yeah. That's and I was like, yeah, like somebody like to like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm

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girl to the snakes, dude. And I will say I'm out. That's it. Yeah. I will say being from that area, like every really truly scary thing that's ever happened to me in my hometown has happened within like a square mile of that stretch of that seven 11 right there, like right at the end of 25th Street. You're like, that is to me the scariest part of the entire San Pedro. And I don't know, there's something wrong with it. I mean, it's crazy.

I mean, did you tell Jacob you've got like weird ghost shit happening with you, Alex at all? I haven't really talked to him about it, but like, yeah, like in our house, like I was telling these guys the other day, like this, if you can see the green lantern omnibus over there, the like big, thickie one, like dust cover of it. The other day while I was sitting talking to Kelly just shot up, like I

would say two inches straight up. And I was like, okay, I'm sorry, we have to go look at this. And we tried to pull it down and it was tough to do it. It like, I don't know how that occurred. It truly felt super. Yeah. And we've been hearing sounds and stuff, but I like, it's weird now because we have the dog and like there's he's barking at stuff all the time, but there's something going on. But it's not the same as the ghost dude. shape, but they see what we don't.

Yeah, that's true. Sure. I never know how they perceive reality compared to us. Yeah. I never, uh, I never distrust something that a dog, like if a dog doesn't go somewhere, it immediately scares me. Don't know what you're like, Oh, you don't want to hear. Okay. That's the problem is having cats is like they walk on to invisible things all the time and you just never know. You know, like that's just scary. You're just watching something with wide eyes and there's nothing there. Pretty close to where you were at.

There was this mansion that everybody used to go to when we were kids. I forget what it was called. I don't want to like put it on blast in case it's trespassing to go there, which it probably was. But everybody used to go there and like see things. And it was like maybe like five minutes, 10 minutes drive from where you're talking about in pals Verde is like, people drive onto the thing I saw, like a horse disappear. I saw, like, a dog come out of nowhere, like, five

dogs, five or six dogs, like, came out of nowhere and, like, came to our car and, like, like, grouped around our car. Like, really weird stuff. My dad got chased off that property when he was a kid. Uh, you know, all kinds of crazy stuff. That's very bizarre. There is, I mean, there's always lore in the kid. Uh you know, all kinds suicide out of the storm drain pipe. Like it was very beachy in that. I did feel like there was all these sort of weird stories that like some of them were true and some of them were not and some of them were half truths. There's something about that area. I think it's just that it's like so many kids. It's like it feels like the Gooney town. It's really a unique place. Honestly, like if you if

you are in Los Angeles and you've never been to Palos Verdes, you should go. It's really a unique place, honestly. Like if you are in Los Angeles and you've never been to Palos Verdes, you should go. It's pretty weird. It feels like the south of France. You haven't taken me there, right? I've never been there. We went pretty close. We went to the Bell, which is like right there.

Ah, that's good enough. But yeah, I appreciate you talking about your personal experiences. That's a cool thing and I'm always- Of course, it's a blast. Yeah, I'm always glad that we asked because everybody's always got like one or two weird things. Like blast. Yeah. I'm always glad that we asked because everybody's always got like one or two weird things. Like you never know.

I was never going to expect you to say, I saw a, like zapped to death power station worker at my house. Uh, but that's, that's great with somebody else as a witness as well. Like that's crazy. Like, yeah. But with that, with that part of the show out of the way, Jacob, you might not know this. But this episode that we're doing right now, the five toes of Big Feet to the other foot, is actually part six of a larger eight part meta series, which our fans and my co-host absolutely love and truly do not just humor me with. I'm gonna go too far into it but what this bit supposes is that like what if numerology type shit? I'm sorry Jake. I know you're like really best like one of his best friends but I apologize anyway. I like to see you guys

squirm I get it. I like to make people I like to make people think. Thank you so much to ZocDoc for sponsoring today's episode and I'm gonna say something that's very important but seems kind of obvious to most people getting checked up by doctors. A good idea. I understand, you know, there are some things in life that are okay to like let go and not worry about as much like trying a new type of milk or I don't know, mixing up with a new takeout spot. If you're like me and is autistic, you don't like to change out what you eat every day.

You know, maybe that's something I can worry a little bit less about. But the one thing I won't worry about is my physical health. And as much as I don't like talking to people on the phone, ZocDoc allows me to actually set up doctor appointments without having to talk to anybody. It's pretty nice.

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That's it. That's zocdoc.com slash chill, z-o-c-d-o-c dot com slash chill. I use ZockDoc. Hey, I think you should try it too. Yeah, okay. So each one of the eight episodes in the cryptic cycle of episodes that I'm doing

has a special word associated with it that starts with the letter H. So far we have had hidden in our madcap UFO episode, it's had Santel on it, who you also know. Heavyweights, which was all about mysteries involving the WWE. Horse, which was about the weird conspiracy surrounding the Denver airport and the big blue horse out front.

Head, is an unexpected trilogy about the dream realm, and Hello, which was all about the Zodiac killer. So that was the last, that's what's at five, right? So now- Zodiac was the last one we did with the H series. It's been a while. Yeah. Hello, this is the Zodiac speaking. Today's episode, which is about Big Feet is associated with the word huge on account of the feet. And next time, next episode that I do is gonna be called him again Which I'll keep secret exactly what that is for now along with the final episode in the sequence hero All together these episodes have a common thematic through line

Which once you identify it can probably help it determine not only what the last two episodes identified it. I got it I got you figured out. It's you **** with us and it's driving me crazy. You'll see. We'll see which that's the line. I almost yearn for the green stone days. It's the through line is making up as you go along. No, no. I've got this. Some people have already guessed it as a matter of fact. As a matter of fact. Uh but no one has guessed what the no some people have guessed what the next two episodes are.

No one has guessed what the larger thing is that I'm building to. What do you, what do you guys actually think I'm building to? Genuine guess. Do you actually have a guess what I'm building to? Mental break. Mental break.

You mean like what the last episode is? Yeah, what do you think this is all about? Why am I doing this? Saying you're gonna quit the show. Why am I doing this saying you're gonna quit the show? Why am I doing this? Don't worry about don't know don't worry about probably the real reason yeah, like Genuinely the man wants to know someone tell him why he's doing this. Why am I doing this? It's an ocean but besides that's not what today's about.

Today's about chilling, today's about being carefree, and that's why there's no better place to look than the official magazine of the 1987 Chaluminauts Kids' Course, Summer Investigation Course at Angeles National Forest, Chaluminauts Magazine, which I just so happen to have right here. Isn't that awesome? What? Yeah, I showed to us.

Can you show it to us? No, because it's- Can we look at it? It's 40 years old, the July 1987 issue. It's offscreen. It's in a automated page turning conservative thing, so I can't bring it onto the thing. I can't bring it onto the camera because the light- Because every time it turns the page, it just is like, Trump.

The light will hurt it, so I can't show it on the camera, but just trust me, it's there. Oh, that is true about the light. I forget about the light every time it turns the page, it just is like Trump. The light will hurt it. So I can't show it on the camera. But it's just trust me. It's there. Oh, that is true about the light. I forget about. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. And it still has some pretty good information in it about the star of this week's proceedings, the Big Feet themselves. Yes, it's finally time for the other foot to drop on this loose mini series about the five toes of Big feet, which as you know, is a word I made up that means more than one big foot, but that strangely also seems to

appear in this 37 year old magazine. Isn't that weird? Uh, anyway, dance with English language is a fascinating calling this a mini series when the second episode is like two years after the first one is. It's a mini series. Generous. I hate to correct you, but a loose, a loose mini series. Yeah, it's loose. All right. It's loose. The loose mini series.

Two years loose. It's a loose mini series. So anyway, here's Jacob. He's going to read the intro to this article, which only has a byline of staff to remind us what the five toes of Big Foot actually are. So I'm going to drop those in right here into the chat. First let me say what a true honor it is

to be a part of a series. God bless. It's always been a dream of mine. Yes, welcome. I'm gonna take it from the top. Yeah, and then I'll give you, it's gonna, it ran out of space, so I put another one at the bottom. Hey Zach, thank you for subscribing to Chalumin.

Chalumin. Chaluminoz. Chaluminoz. Yeah, Chaluminoz. Sorry, it's a cold read. Hey, Zach. Thank you for ss. It's a cold read, not my strength as an actor.

Hey, Zach, especially when there's fake words. How fucking dare you? Hey Zach, thank you for subscribing to Chaluma Knott's Kids Corp Summer Investigation Course at Angeles National Forest. Before we unleash you into the lakeside campgrounds for a weekend of full-on radical far-out forest mysteries that will shatter your tiny child-sized minds, Zach, we're going to go over some of the main things you'll need to know to conduct fully sanctioned verifiable Kids Corp grade investigations. First, let's review the five toes of Bigfeet, just in case we're fortunate to encounter one in the world's many Bigfoot variables.

The first toe is, what is it? This means, this means that first and foremost- He really threw you into the deep end of the pool, my man. The first toe is, what is it? This means that first and foremost, you need a physical description of each big foot. And yes, Zach, it really is just as simple as what does it look like?

What is it? Is the big toe of big feet? The next toe, AKA toe two, is what does it do? Just like the second toe of the foot has a loose limber quality to it, so does this broad category that's meant to describe each Bigfoot's identifying behaviors. What world, what would, mm-hmm, fuck you Alex, what would your second toe be if you were at a Big Feet? What would your second toe be if you were a Big Feet? What would your second toe be if you were a Big Feet, Zach? When we asked your mom and dad, they said it would be

reading comics and skateboarding like a little frigging maniac. The third, or middle toe, of Big Feet is a little clunkier name-wise. But this toe tries to answer the question of why is it? You see, some big feet are said to be naturally birthed creatures, but others are said to have more paranormal origins. So wherever the foot may hail from, let's make sure the shoe fits when it comes to its supposed origin.

Right Zach? The fourth toe is the anchor toe of Big Feet, which answers the question, who saw it? This reminds us to explore real world accounts from actual witnesses who claim to have seen these noble beings, and who may have a unique perspective on things based on their experience. And finally, thank God, then we have the total which balances out the first toe, because they are on opposite sides. This toe doesn't ask, what is it? It asks, what is it really in a real reality where big feet don't actually exist. Sometimes, knowing the mundane explanation for paranormal phenomenon can help understand, can help us

understand it better, whether it ends up being real or not. What about you, Zack? Are you real or not? What an interesting question it becomes the more you think about it, right? Or are you thinking about your favorite thing to read? Alpha Flight number 45? Wow. Shit. Who the hell is Zack? So I guess the magazine used to like personalize a little bit to the magazine for fun.

Is it a deadly premonition rat? The National Chaluminati Magazine. Yeah, I guess you could like fill out- Or in this scenario, Yeah personalized Bigfoot guide. Yeah to a kid named Zach that not only knows about everything he likes but also That his parents are involved in this scenario. I didn't realize that was in there. Just my best acts in 87 80 frame I could that anybody could think of not me. I didn't think I didn't realize that was in Zach... It's the most 80s game I could... that anybody could think of. Not me, I didn't think of it. I didn't realize that was in there, that's my bad. Anyway, they review lots of other stuff at the beginning of the magazine to get all the

kids ready for camp, but let's just skip all that for the moment, get to the main event. What is Alpha Flight 45? Alpha Flight is a comic book from Marvel Comics. And to get to the main event, the article about Big Feet, which starts, as always, with the camp song, which I'll have Jesse read for us now. Oh, I get to read a camp song? Lovely. Yeah. Wow.

Does it have a tune, Alex? No, it just kinda rhymes. It just kinda rhymes. I bet you'll fall naturally into it. Oh, oh, I bet you'll fall naturally into it. Oh! Oh! Shaluminat's Kids Corp Summer Investigation Course with Tree and Lake B-side! We will not leave one rock unturned, your mysteries cannot hide! The big feet in your forest, the thing below the lake, no matter which tier of the camp we subscribe to our

third eye is wide awake Oh Chaluminauts kids corpse over investigation course through though we seem odd we're the pride of good like patreon in one big Chaluminati pod is that an ad? Did you just make me do a fucking ad? that is so weird that's such a weird name for a lake. They probably renamed that sometime in the 90s. Anyway, now that the ritual is complete, let's get on with the big feet, shall we? Starting with.

Good job, Deb. See, by the way, that was also a cold read. Phenomenal job. Yeah. Shout outs to all the no-one's that I force everybody through on this show. The first part felt very, it felt very Taoist. It was very like, you know, uh. Yeah, it was very friendly. I was trying to summon

channel whatever the song was going to be, but nothing came to me. So you kind of got it. I kind of nailed it. Your mysteries cannot hide. So, uh, yeah, let's, uh, let's kick off the list with number five, because remember the first four were way back in episode 171 in September of 2022. The Bukit Timah Monkey Man is the name of this big feat. And also I want to say 1987 was a long time ago. So shout outs to Wikipedia, the Cryptid Wiki, Mothersip SG. I use those to confirm this entry's old ass information,

which happens to get so weirdly anachronistic sometimes that I wonder what time period this information is actually from. I don't know. Maybe the authors of this information just want us to use our imaginations and have fun, but also want to use modern resources to do their research, whichever one it is.

But here's Mathis with the first two toes of the Bukit Timah Monkey Man straight from the guide. What two toes of the Bukit Timah Monkey Man straight from the guide. What is it? The Bukit Timah Monkey Man, or BTM, is an upright, bipedal ape with gray fur. The creature usually grows to between one and two meters tall, sporting a monkey face and often smelling like rancid ape urine. Just like you, Zach! And what does it do? According to most accounts, the BTM is mostly seen close to its forested home territory, but has commonly been known to venture close to human civilization for reasons of survival,

like combing through the trash for food or walking alongside roads for safer travels. So far indistinguishable from like just like a, like a guy out on the street who's going through the trash in most ways for the most part. So that's, that's what is it and what does it do and here's Jacob for the next two toes. I think we're making our guest work more than we ever have this episode. I love it. I'm ready for it. I'm a professional. Why is it the BTM hails from the 1.6 square kilometer Bukit Timah rainforestforest Nature Preserve, which is surrounded on all sides

by urban development and lies only 12 kilometers from the city center, and is regularly walked by visitors with plenty of opportunity to see it in action, who all commonly describe a beast who is fiercely territorial but largely keeps out of the way if unprovoked. According to some versions shared in both fiction and supposedly non-fiction accounts, the BTM is also immortal, and there may be only one of them ever to have existed throughout time.

Though little is written about its actual mythical or biological origins or its purpose on this earth. Who saw it? The legend of the BTM as it appears today largely stems from the accounts of Malay elders as far back as 1805 and Japanese soldiers who came through the area during World War Two, all of whom describe a similar visual and behavioral pattern to the one described above.

Yeah, so thing has been in the area, but it's really weird. It's really weird because this this if you you look at this on a map, like on Google Maps, you go to the Bookit Timah Rainforest Nature Preserve, it's literally in the middle of straight up civilization. It's in city and it's just a big piece that's just completely untouched in the middle of super overdeveloped Asian city. So it's weird that in a place so man-made that there's like a Bigfoot that's been around for 225 years or 220 years.

It's 12 kilometers from the middle of the city. The whole nature preserve is only 1.6 square kilometers. So obviously it's been in this area before the preserve, but it's almost like somehow it was preserved to house the Book It Tim O'Monkey Man if he's an immortal. But that's just one way of looking at it, right? Also, before I get into the last toe, I grabbed a couple of accounts of the creature for you guys to read from the internet. So first one's for Jesse I got it from the cryptid wiki. It's supposedly from an anonymous 48 year old cab driver who lived in the neighborhood nearby called serangoon at the time of the encounter

So that's your that's your character. It all checks out. Um, hey When driving my taxi past the fire station on upper Bukit Timah Road in the middle of the night I hit what I thought was a child really a cigar read. Yeah Hey, I was a child Can't believe that Ran out in the middle of the road. I was on the carb on it It was on the carb on it and then snarled at me It was like a monkey but so big it ran off injured covered in blood

Turns out wasn't that fucking immortal Alex and holding its arm which was broken one time I was on my way to my mom's uncle's funeral and we were all in a car dressed in suits and this guy was like riding on a bike and Another car like right behind us clipped him and he like fell over the bike and just completely ate shit and was wearing Also a suit and he got up and we were like, oh my god, are you good? And he was like, I'm fine. I'm fine And he was like all bloody and he just kept biking and he biked away and I'll never forget that and then he showed up

At the funeral. It was was crazy he wasn't at the funeral he just is in my memory. What else did you expect him to do? Just like put the bike down and just sit? I thought he needed to go to the hospital like for the way he went down I thought he needed to go to the hospital like immediately he looked like he fucking died. He looked like he was just like, I'm good. We were just like, do you need- I love the idea of him sitting there just be like, I need a minute. We were like, do you need a ride? Like, are you good? Uh, I don't know. Maybe that was the Bukit Timahmonkey man.

BTM. Next one's for Mathis who will be reading a quote from an anonymous 65 year old retiree from Bukit Ronyang Who has memories of the creature when he was a kid? Like his best friend he went out in the backyard just played with him every day the smelly monkey man Not exactly We were always told as children when in the kampong not to go near the forest at night due to the monkey man Of course, we never saw it ourselves But it was always some uncle or friend of the family who had seen it once we were shown these footprints near the forest road and I remember the strong urine smell Whenever we heard shrieks coming from the jungle we would tell each other don't disturb the monkey man. So if you were in this specific

Sector of the preserved rainforest and you smell piss Look out. So you see footsteps and piss. But you know, it is interesting that this they say don't go to the forest at night because of the monkey man because as we've seen with a lot of these cryptids that we do on the show, almost, I would say 80% of them exist. Just to be like kind of a warning like a like a like a cautionary tale. Yeah, like a little like a little rule to follow for kids. Don't go near thin ice, tides, be careful of that kind of shit.

A preventative force. Exactly. And that shit worked. Before you could Google that shit, that shit worked. And then finally for the most recent sighting, which occurred in 2020, comes a quote Jacob's going to read from a Singapore night trekking group on Facebook called the Night Raiders who supposedly encountered the BTM while out testing their paranormal detection gear. Also warning, these guys say BTMM instead of BTM, so prepare your ears for that. Here you go. This year, one of our equipment specialists, Alfie, followed this particular group for

a mission and also to test his paranormal equipment in his particular jungle During that particular night they witnessed BTMM and our specialists managed to capture in a split second He said BTMM this time is really huge BTMM is another type of mystery creature called Bigfoot. Some people says it's a folklore. Some say it's a Jin, spelled D-J-I-N-N. Whether it is, whether you guys think that the photo is genuine or not,

it is for your own opinion and imagination. At least we aware that BTMM is still around. Cryptic. Cryptic haunting, haunting language. An account and a philosophy. Yeah. It's not for your own opinion. Whether you think it's genuine, it's for your own opinion and imagination and we are aware that he's around. Believe what you want, he's out there. And then here's a link to the post, which I'll give you guys so you can actually see the photo evidence that they give of this thing I mean it's not nothing but you guys can have a look and you're not

nothing it's not nothing it looks kind of like a grim reaper like it looks like Elden ring that's clearly some sort of a lich creature rather than an ape. Yeah, it's embossed a little bit. Okay, well. Yeah, exactly. I mean, this is the this is where we this is where the people who believe fail because they **** present **** like this and it's just like, come on, bro. Come on, bro. Who are you **** fooling? Now, you understand my pain with his entire show. How dare you?

I want to, I'm like, yeah, look, I'm open to the idea, but every time we get any bit of evidence, it looks like this. And you're just like, yeah, there's a lot of garbage evidence out there. There is that woman who says she like sucks the dick of big foot and hangs out with him. I would have loved to have seen footage of that. Nothing. Yeah. Didn't exist. When I zoom in, it's pretty, pretty right there, but you know,

like I see, I definitely see a figure. Yeah. I definitely like see, like, like something there. I wouldn't say that I immediately see that and think, Oh, that's an ape, like a monkey that genuinely looks like a skeleton, like sculpture with like fabric over it. I don like a skeleton sculpture with fabric over it, I don't know what else to say. But finally for the BTM, I'm going to read the pinky toe myself. What is it, really?

The one obvious glaring factor to consider when debating the BTM's existence is the rather large local population of monkeys in the area, most notably that of the crab-eating macaque, which other than being only 38 to 55 centimeters tall, bears a striking resemblance to BTM's alleged appearance. But really, it's up to you to decide, Zack. So what do you think? Could someone really make such simple mistakes? Does the BTM exist?

Do you? Does the Earth itself exist? Who knows? Have a banana! How old is Zack? Why are we doing this to this poor kid? I don't know how old Zack is. He's just... It's like when you buy an old record and it says, This is Tony! on the front or whatever and it's like, you know, I don't know, Zack's probably 45 years old today. You're asking a child if he's real!

Well, you didn't. Obviously the Chino-Naut magazine did. The publication did. Yeah, I didn't do it. Right. Right, right, right, right. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say like maybe maybe it's maybe give it to him young and let him spin out it when they're young and then they like they they don't worry about that **** when they're adults. Like yeah, I thought about all that stuff and found out I was insignificant and I just like

went to high school. Honestly, that's the true power of like the not to do and shit. All I was gonna say is interesting how all different versions of Bigfoot seem to smell like piss. All of them. Uh, the SWAT, the Florida Swamp Man one, like every version of Bigfoot for some reason, just smells awful. Bigfoot's is stinkies. They're all little stinky boys. I don't think they're like, it doesn't seem like they're bathing. No, no, no, but I feel like it's part of their, I'm sure they have access to a natural river. Like it's probably good for me. I feel like it's part of their, like maybe it's psychic. Like maybe you just smell it. Do we have to do a deep dive on when bathing became like a thing?

Like when people decided, oh, I feel like for a long portion of human history, people are like, nah, when I get wet, I get wet. But then at some point, they were like, dude, water makes you clean. They're like, hold on now. I feel like it had to be a long time ago, because I've seen animals take baths. Yeah, so when was the moment?

Yeah, I don't know. I would guess before. You've seen what take baths? Just like animals in general are like, I better clean this off because I'm dirty. For the purpose of taking a bath or for the purpose of something else? Like, OK, like for example, if my dog goes and gets

like some bullshit on him because he's rolling around in the grass, right, and there's like some water, he might go in the water and get it on him and shake off the stuff. Well, sure. Because it's probably either sticky or weird or like, I understand the concept. I'm just saying like, when was the flip where it was like, Hey, we should take a bath on the regular instead of just whenever you feel a little gunky.

I think thousands of years ago, I think like people have been going on. I just, yeah, that's a deep dive. I want to go on because it is kind of interesting that you could say, oh, it's weird that this guy doesn't, you know, all the ape men don't bathe. But in theory there was men men who didn't bathe for quite some time. So it probably is just a natural thing, you know, I think that should be the weird thing about them. I'm not hating on it. I hate on it. I didn't say it was bad No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no I'm saying it's just

Bigfoot it's a weird thing to say about maybe when like a big foot smells another big foot They're like communicate like they're talking like maybe they can change their scent Yeah, really a lot like maybe they maybe that's the you know People say Bigfoot is in the center sent for when they're like horny. Yeah. Like maybe it's just like really powerful pheromones. I want to adjust. I want to adjust my statement here for maximum conspiracies. Uh, just putting this out there in the world, you know, you need to be able to smell the pheromones and things to communicate.

So why would they cover themselves with things that smell like pee? Here's your answer. There's something else in the wild that's stalking them and that's the only way they can hide. It's like predator. Yeah. Got it. They're hiding from it's just like predator.

Yeah. Who, who, who watches who feeds the big feet anyway. There you go. You're welcome. There you go. Reddit have fun. Yeah. One thing I forgot to mention is that after each of the entries in the guide, there's always like a little extra activity called the foot

note which is a pun but there's also an extra layer of fun that they add to the edutainment aspect too, right? So, here's the first one. It's called footnote number one keeping you on your feet. Oh, okay. Look, it's one of those multiple choice ones where the answer is just written upside down at the bottom of the page. So let me just, I'll read you it and then you guys can answer the question. Wow, okay, okay.

Here we go, ready? You think you know a lot about mysterious beings from Singapore, Zach? Well, can you guess the correct name of the familiar spirit from Malay folklore whose name translates to Great Spirit or High Ghost, which it earned from its useful ability to transform into a physical copy of its owner and do undesirable tasks? Is it A. The Merlion? B. The Alibi Shade?

C. The Hantu Raya? Or D. Yangon Pandang Belakang? I want it to go with D or D Yangon, Pondang, Bella Kang. I want it to be the last one. very badly. That name rules. Yeah. A is Merlion. I just want to hear Alex say B again. Yeah,

for sure. Yangon, Pandang, Bella Kang. I'm probably butchering it but that's what I think it is. Uh so, which one do you guys think it is? ABC or D? I would hate it if it's the alibi one that sucks It's too on the nose. It's too sick. I'm going with D D, Jung, Gang, Pen, Dang, Bella, Kang. So it's actually C the Hantu Raya Young, Gang, Ben, Dang, Bella, Kang is actually the name of a movie about the Hawk tour the Randa

Yeah, the Hawk tour random The paw network is this brand new podcast? Is this Cryptid day pookie? Does it have a Cryptid pookie? It's been a big year for this Cryptid. 2024 was a huge year for this. Hontureya, yeah. But here's the thing about Hontureya.

Hontureya, even though it's got a huge podcast, loves to be paid for its work with an offering of yellow sticky rice, eggs, roasted chicken, rice flake and a doll. And if you end up hiring one to serve you, you should take that exact offering pretty seriously, because if you don't, it's been known to come after your beloved family members instead, and as such is sometimes blamed for death during childbirth. Oh, pretty hardcore for a... Wait, and... Okay, then.

Zach must be. And what do we have to leave out for this, for this spirit? You have to leave out. It sounded. Sticky. Bomb. Yeah, kind of, kind of tasty. Yes. Yeah. Sounds. Yellow sticky rice. Eggs, roasted chicken, rice flake, and a doll.

Sounds. You know what? For some reason, understand it all. It all clicks with me and I'm I'm here for it. This thing. This thing you don't get it. It's not expensive to save your family. This thing can do your farm work for you. If somebody's

coming to look for you at the house and you don't want to talk to them, you leave this guy there instead. It's like a it's like a man crow. It's like a it's like a man crow for yourself. Okay, cool. That's one big foot down. We got three big

foot left. That guy hire a book and we hire that guy. The hunt to Raya. It's it's a Malay thing. So like, it's like the Malay. Does she does she do this? I don't think so. I think she's a is Hawk to on on on only cryptic fiber. Yeah, only on there. Fuck. She's gonna close her account because she's gonna be made the Secretary of State or something. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Anyway, we got one big foot down. We got three big feet left. What did we think of the Bukit Timah Monkey Man? Did it, is it worthy of the name Big Feet? Is he an exciting varietal? I think, I think he sort of a little bit, but like, it seemed like average man sized. Didn't it just kind of give like an average Joe average, average feet,

average Joe foot. Let me, let me wrap this. Uh, only cryptids is an SCP. It is. Yeah. It's an SEP four one zero six6. Yep. A whole ass article about it and everything. Yes, but it says it's been taken down from the dark web by the SCP because you know. What's an SCP? Sorry, what is that? SCP is for the internet at large. SCP is kind of like a, uh, ooh, they're doing weird conspiracy things. The Federal Bureau of Control. It's a government organization that controls like all the mystery things around the world. It's a collection of like really fun fanfic and, uh, like, uh, there'll be a list of SCPs and you can claim one as yours,

then write the story of what it is. It's all over the place. Yeah. It's neat. Meta, meta fiction. Yeah. Yeah's neat. Metafiction? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Interactive metafiction. And then people will build off of it. It's neat.

Now it's time for number six. The Falc Monster. Oh, boy. I know this boy. Yeah. The Falc Monster. The Falc, F-A-L-K. F-O-U-K-E. The Falc Monster.

This rock. So far, they've all been new. Like you haven't heard him before? I've not heard. I didn't hear of it. I've never heard of MTB., the Falc Monster. This rocks. So far they've all been new. Like you haven't heard them before? I've not heard. I didn't hear of them. I've never heard of MTB and the Falc Monster is also new. Yeah, we're going to, I always try to, I always try to find the ones that are the most cinematically interesting.

They say FTB, BTM. Friends to benefits. Shout outs to falcmonster.net, add EXCEL on r slash unresolved mysteries, Skeptoid podcast, and Encyclopedia of Arkansas.net for helping me verify all this information. And then I've got Jesse here for you with the first two toes of the Falcmonster. Here we go. What is it? The Falcmonster or Boggy Creek monster, as it's sometimes called, is a huge, hulking bigfoot type creature who has long, dark, reddish-brown hair,

ranges from 6 to 10 feet tall, weighing anywhere from 250 to a staggering 800 pounds. It's also known to smell pretty gnarly, like a skunk or a wet dog, and most importantly, it's giant. Big, stinky, three-toed, Harry Oshers-style feet. Okay, uh, and you know what? Look, you smell bad too, Zach, but at least you don't have bright red eyes the size of half dollars like he does. Give him until he's legal enough and then he will. What does it do? As we'll see later in our eyewitness account, the Falc monster is one tough customer, a nocturnal hunter. It's been known to swing its arms around madly like an insane gorilla as it gallops around its home territory of Falc in in Miller County Arkansas, about 15 miles outside Tex Arcana. If you encounter something matching this description, steer clear. It's been known

to brutally attack humans even while inside structures, and seems extremely hard to discourage once it's decided your threat even with guns Have you ever fired a gun Zack? will Sacks got a lot to think about So the main thing is this thing also smells like shit this thing's huge Yep, and the special thing about the fowl monster that everybody always talks about is that it's got like Hairy like if you can imagine ostrich feet, it's like that but they're like mammal.

They're like mammalian ostrich. Some people draw it with like straight up. Are you saying the way in which they bend or are you saying like the bottom like the actual foot. like a three, like a velociraptor or something. But the leg is like, it's a monkey, but the leg itself is the leg of like a man. Yeah, and I've seen fan art with the reverse leg and all that too, but I believe that what they're saying is that it's a monkey that has hairy, mammalian, three-toed ostrich feet that smell like shit. Huh. Yeah. See, I thought this was going to be just based on pure judging a book by its name. I thought this was some sort of Falconian as in a bird. I thought there was going to be some sort of anthropomorphic bird thing because it was called the Falc monster. Sure. Now I'm quickly realizing that Falc is just a place.

Yeah, but it does have, it does kind of have birdie feet in a way Look, you weren't birdie. Mammoth eat. I don't know where Here's Mathis with the next two toes Thank you so much to hero forage for sponsoring today's episode before I even get into why I love here for so much their 10-year Anniversary sale is still going on the sale ends on November 30th and you're looking at up to 20% off of all physical miniatures The sale ends on November 30th and you're looking at up to 20% off of all physical miniatures 50% off of digital products. Listen, if you're a nerd tabletop RPG guy like myself You have a 3d printer at home and maybe you don't want to buy the physical products Everything that they have is on sale, but the sale ends on November 30th there

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There's no real consensus on exactly how the Fouke monster came to be, and even though the sighting that put this creature on the map only occurred in 1971, subsequent research has shown accounts of consistent, though less publicized encounters with the creatures of a similar description in the area as far back as 1851 Isn't it weird that everyone from then is dead now Zack who sought in? 1971 Bobby and Elizabeth Ford were reportedly attacked by the creature in their home when he reached in at Elizabeth through a living room

Window with a big hairy arm Bobby and his brother Don Ford chased the monster away by firing at Bobby and his brother Don Ford chased the monster away by firing at and hitting it with a hunting rifle seven times, even though the bullets never drew any blood. Supposedly in the aftermath, the house was said to have been surrounded by three toed footprints and broken vegetation, heading off into the woods. This kicked off a spate of sightings over the next 15 years, which continue to this day. Have you considered what role you'll matriculate into on your red 15th yet? Zach only three years of camp left. What is happening? I don't know.

I'm starting to worry less about these big feet and more about what's happening at Zach's home life. We're all a little worried for Zach, but he's gonna be okay. Unfortunately, in looking this up, I found that other than easily fakeable footprints and trust-me-bro style stories, there isn't any reliable physical evidence for us to look out for the Falc monster, but that's easily remedied. The first, here I go with the pinky toe. What is it really?

As we covered above Zack, no primates of any kind are known to be found in the area around Texarkana, so it's probably not a mundane primate species being mistaken for a supernatural one. And ever since it was seen by a 14-year-old boy out squirrel hunting in 1955, the creature's description as a giant reddish-brown beast who sniffs the air, walks confidently towards humans and doesn't react to birdshot when fired at, has most commonly been attributed to a misidentified black bear, which has a very similar description, especially when on high alert.

So last time we did a Big Feet episode, we talked a lot about the black bear, because if you look at a map, and this is true, if you look at a map of Bigfoot, heat, sightings, like, and then you just overlay that with where black bears are at, it's pretty much one to one, right? Black bears, like when you think about them in your mind, you think about them as like, on four legs, you think about them doing all this stuff. But if you really follow and look at footage of black bears they do a lot of standing Especially when balancing on trees they sit on fucking logs and the other thing that's crazy about bears in general

Is that they are one of the few? Creatures that is known for sure to like to sit and like regard nature. So bears kind of can be seen in some kind of weird zones. Like if you're like walking through the woods and you look and you see like a bear, like kicking back on the log and like enjoying the view, like that feels very human. You know what I mean? It feels very manlike. And so a lot of Bigfoot stories can maybe be attributed to misidentified black bears. That's the the Falk Monster. Bobby and Elizabeth Ford.

Like their their story is absolutely crazy. I really like the the footnote for this one, because it really will will will get into it. We'll get into it right now. This is for Jacob to read. Footnote number two, the Bigfoot screen. this one because it really, we'll get into it. We'll get into it right now. This is for Jacob to read. Footnote number two, the Bigfoot screen. 15 years ago in 1972, Charles B. Pierce's docudrama horror film, The Legend of Boggy Creek was released in cinemas and features real testimony

and recreations based on eyewitness accounts by many people who supposedly actually saw and interacted with the fuk monster in person. Included with the issue on the $20 tier is an exclusive video cassette featuring the theatrical cut of this classic work of big feet journalism. Also, since you're in the $20 tier, your mom said it'd be cool if we called you Z-Man. Now, you okay, if we called you Z-Man from now on,

okay, Zack, sorry, I mean, okay, Z-Man. So big, big developments for Zack, for sure, for sure. But obviously obviously we don't have the VHS that came with Z Well, that's right Z man I don't have the VHS tape that was included with this magazine the magazine was just sent to me loose and a padded shipping envelope So I don't know where the VHS is but if you will indulge me Let's include a link to this short three minute montage of the movie that I found online. I we can like cue it up together and like live react to it like Mystery Science Theater and I'll watch it together. It's just like a somebody like restored it to 4k. What is happening right now? It's just like three. It's just like three minutes. This is real. This is real. This movie is real. Don't worry, this is a real movie. Three, two, one, go. So loud immediately.

Paluma Pierce production presents. Palula, I kind of love that name. It's pretty great. The Legend of Boggy Creek. This movie is actually kind of a hit. It has two sequels. Check the shotgun shell. Look at this.

Why would you think you shell out when that thing is standing right there? The guy is talking is the real guy. He's switching it up to a different type of shot dude and you're seeing like a dramatization of it I had my rifle I believe I could have knocked him down he's another like practicing shooting or something newspaper and television coverage resulted in nationwide publicity he'd get the same reception that's every like that's our reaction to everything in skinwalker ranch we talked about anything that shows up people just grab their guns and just start shooting it yeah and in this case in this case it didn't do any damage and he just kept

coming just like the giant wolf on skinwalker ranch or the goblins from uh fuck what was the name of that initial Hopkinsville yeah. Yeah Hopkinsville Goblin, exactly. I just don't think I'm gonna outrun this thing, you know? No, no way. Yeah this thing is uh, this one is like, one of the bigger ones I believe. Maybe not, maybe I'm missing. Like, how would you chase after it? Does this little boy on screen have a name? I think it's Zack. I was about to say are we watching Zack right now?

Is this Zack like getting ready to fire his gun? This is Z man, dude Get out there Z man. You can't shoot him It kicks already went down. Oh Did you see it go down on his knees? I love that noise. That shotgun went to fucking dislodge that little boy's show. Oh yeah, here he's going for the window. He's back!

He's creeping now! It's coming out of the porch, man! Oh, and now it's daytime. This is really, like, if you have a chance to watch this, I watched like half of this movie. Such a vibe. 1972 documentary. You can find it on YouTube.

In fact, yeah, it's like it's like it's like that fucking shitty ass movie that you made us watch about Bigfoot except it's like real. You mean suburban Sasquatch? Yeah, dude. Yeah, that shitty movie. Yeah, an amazing movie. That movie sucked, man. But yeah, this movie looks beautiful.

It's like shot on film. It has like really good cinematography. And if you have a chance, I really recommend The Legend of Boggy Creek if you're really into the Bigfoots. I think it's probably like the coolest thing you can watch if you're like into Bigfoot legit, like I don't know if there's a sick of rec. It looked like just from like a cool place

to film a movie standpoint seemed pretty cool. Wooded, boggy, like truly spooky and odd, yeah. Do you think like maybe this was just like one of those like prehistoric bird miss like situations where it's like not a Bigfoot at all but because people just like it's all it's kind of like just like part of Bigfoot is just kind of like umbrella term was the word I was struggling to find where it's just like now something I didn't understand in the woods.

So like the feet thing, the talent thing is really like really sticks out with this guy with me. And I'm just, I'm just thinking like, I just feels like some big bird that you didn't quite understand. Yeah. You thought it was like maybe like a, like an ape man, because you never really looked all the way at it. And it would make sense. It was like quick and you're like, well, when the things you don't know in the wood is Bigfoot, you know, I don't know. Yeah. And if it reached in the window with an arm, yeah. I know, you know, it's funny you should say that because, uh, you know, you kind of, you're kind of talking about almost like the Loch Ness monster, right?

How people are like, is it a plesiosaur from like the dinosaur era, like somehow still alive. And it's like kind of similar sometimes with Bigfoot. But we'll look a little bit closer at that now when we, uh, you know, uh, kick off the second half of the second half of the long awaited Bigfoot duology with number seven, the grass man, the grass man sounds like every one of us actually. If you know about Bigfoot, you probably know about The Grassman.

Chopless. I love the name on The Grassman. Without getting too far into it, he seems like he's gonna be pretty chill. Shout out to the Cryptids Wiki, the Perry Tribune, Astonishing Legends, History.com, which I use to verify all the information in this old kids' magazine that is very real.

Here is Jesse with the first two toes of Big Feet. Grassman. What is it? The Grassman or Ohio Grassman or Kenmore Grassman or simply Orange Eyes is a fairly standard North American Bigfoot varietal, though sometimes it's said to be the largest member of the family. It's described almost as a gorilla that stands up straighter, ranging in height from 5 to 10 feet and ranging in weight from 300 to 1,000 pounds. This one stink has been described as smelling like rot. The black brown hair on its head grows so long you can barely

make out its neck. It has big deep set glowing red orange eyes and has supposedly been heard growling with heavy breaths and cry of a- and the cry of a baby. Boat. All right. And the scream of a woman. Are you a baby? Z man didn't think so. Wait, so this thing does, it goes baby cry, woman cry growl. Yeah. All right. It's been heard doing all this.

They can do it all. This guy's got range. Um, what does it do? These apes have sometimes been seen hiding in caves where they stash the crudely butchered dog and deer corpses they get when they go hunting, but are more known for the strange teepee-like structures they build from the long Ohio grasses. Said to be both extremely aggressive and supernaturally strong and travel in groups of five or more through the area around the village of Minerva in Columbiana County, Ohio.

Why did I ever leave Ohio? This is what they're saying, this is what the grassmen are asking. Yeah, I can give you like 12 reasons why people leave Ohio. This is what they're saying. This is what the grassmen are asking. Yeah, I can give you like 12 reasons why people leave a lot of it easy off the top of my head. I like the fucking sound of this guy, this grassman, man. He's fitting right in. He's got all the sauce. He's got all the sauce. He's chilling with his homies. He's got the pack mentality, which I, you know, feels very true Sasquatch to me. I don't think there.

I had to be one of these. I would want to be this guy just for the record. This area of Ohio is like between, I want to say Akron, but it's right along the border with Pennsylvania near Pittsburgh and it's straight up forest. There's nothing there. So if there ever was going to be a grass man, he would definitely hang out in that spot. Yeah. There's nothing in Minerva. And I love that this this guy has like

things. I love that he like builds little like bigfoots. Like, that's the that's like how all the stories go with this guy is like you you people tell it on Reddit or something cuz this guy's one of the more popular ones like people claim to see this guy a lot. Like, uh, they'll be like, I was walking through the woods and then I saw a little hut and I got so freaked out because I knew there was one. I must stress for the record, this, the skeptic side of me, I just want to point that one time in high school in Ohio, senior year of high school, myself, I've

explained the story a million times and I'll say it again, just for the record on this episode, myself and one of my friends took two girls out to go camping, obviously for the purposes of, you know, nature. Getting to know each other, right. Like one of them black bears walking around looking at nature. Anyway, the four of us were out in the woods, we're all being like, definitely not drunk teens, and we were being very able to do homework, very upstanding. Yeah. And at a certain point, as we were setting up the tent, very upstanding. Yeah. And uh at a certain point as we're setting up the tent, four dudes just walk out the woods looking like they walk out the woods and have lived in the woods and they're like, so y'all camping here? And from that point on we were no longer camping there. So I'm just saying there's just dudes

who live in the woods in Ohio and it's like a thing. And so if you find something built in the woods I would absolutely believe that's like a thing. And so if you find something built in the woods, I would absolutely believe that's just a guy rather than like the grass man. You think it's just you think the grass man is just like an explanation for like guys off the grid in Ohio? I mean, I'm sure. Oh, Roranjai. Yeah, yes.

I fundamentally because I think it's the first time we've seen in the history of us doing this where it's like someone constructs something. For Bigfoots for sure. Like usually it's they, we don't, we have no evidence of them ever existing. Just random sightings. This one's like, they leave behind homes. Yeah, these ones and a couple other ones do things like this too, which is kind of interesting. Like I don't, like when you get deeper into the woods of Bigfoot, you find that they have like societies. Some of them have like alien connections depending on which authors you follow. Right. What is that? Us imprinting, imprinting on like our ideals onto them. Like, well, there's five of

them. Surely they're a family. You know, I, you know, very well could be. I've seen a rival, you know, I know what's up. I know how to, you know, some things as we'll never understand the feet, big context. I think the smells are like talking. That's what I think. I think they talk with their mouths to communicate with us, like how cats learn to talk, like how to learn how to meow, like, you know, cats don't meow. Is that what you're saying? Like the dog will be like, I recognize your scent, but more, more like how professor X and Jean Grey talk, but just, but smells.

But it smells? Psychic stink? Is that what you like? Psychic stink? Yeah. Hell yes. I think they can talk like in real time by smelling. That is a way in which everybody else communicates though. Like, that's what I'm saying. Let us let us not forget that aside from humans, dolphins, and maybe an octopus or something, there's nobody's really figured out language. So, that is how a

majority of beings communicate with like body language and their **** weird, their weird juices. Yeah. So, at the ultimate, as the ultimate druid, maybe the, maybe the Bigfoot is just the other side of the human coin. You know what I'm saying? What? So, is this like the, this the It is Akron. Jesse's from Columbus, by the way. So it's between Akron, south of Youngstown, and then kind of closer towards Pittsburgh, right on the border with Pennsylvania. And it's just kind of forest and grassland there.

Most of Ohio is just forest and grassland. There's high grasses, but there's also trees. But the long grass is characteristic of the area, which is how they make these huts, supposedly. If you Googled Minerva, you would see it's kind of like what you imagine, small town USA when you think of like the one road with everything kind of on it. It's that vibe.

Everything looks like it's from 1950. Old school. Why is it? Though the grass man as we know, it emerged from the woods in 1978. Well, documented sightings go back as far as 1869. Many Big Feet related sources refer to an indigenous tribe in the 1700s, possibly the Delaware tribe, leaving offerings in the area for beings known as the Wild Ones of the Woods.

And while there are some references to similar stuff, we've found in the culture of other tribes in other parts of the US, this one's just not specific enough to nail down. Who saw it? In the summer of 1978, Evelyn and how, is it Cainton? Cainton. Or Clayton. Cainton. Cainton.

Were dealing with the discovery of the family German Shepherd's body with a broken neck just a few days before when their grandchildren came in screaming with tales of an ape man going through the trash in a gravel pit outside. Over the new few weeks, it kept returning to the house and terrorizing the Cain family with footprints constantly being discovered around their home and a horrible smell descending upon them. While they hid inside for safety. Of course, they stink.

Later they even saw two of the creatures cresting a hilltop a ways off. These sightings resulted in a media circus in the grass man became one of the most famous big feet in the Midwest. As all these things do, they always become some huge media fast back then. Grassman is like synonymous with Bigfoot to a portion of this country. Like grassman is one of the bigger ones. Uh, and uh, yeah, it's really, it's really interesting. They basically, the way the story is often told from a storytelling standpoint is they tell the story of the kids come in, they say, hey, there's this thing in the pit.

They look and they find it. They go see what it is. It's a Bigfoot and they start to try and discourage it. It doesn't really care about them try and discourage it. It doesn't really care about them like trying to discourage it. They fire, you know, like all kinds of they try to get rid of it. They try to scare it away. It's not it's completely undeterred. And then they realize after the fact that also it was probably the ape that killed their dog a couple days ago is like how they always reveal that, but I just did it in the correct order. This, when he read this, I just couldn't help but think like of Bigfoot like seeing like native indigenous tribes and like mad chilling and like having a relationship.

And like. Yeah. And that's why like those like, it was like, I don't know, you hear about it pretty much like at every, you know, nomadic tribe ever, there is some sort of like Bigfoot lore. And then like colonialism came around and Bigfoot was like, these guys are kind of lame. Yeah. And they like started dodging. These guys are like, fuck these guys. It's just so funny though. Yeah. The guys who,

the guys who like hunt and gather and like have small tribes are pretty chill. And like we have common stuff to talk about, like the guys who like hunt and gather and like have small tribes are pretty chill and like we have Common stuff to talk about like the seasons and like earth. Yeah, I swear these guys smoke me out, dude Why are you dressed bro you've. What is that a logo? The hell? Why does he sound like Raul? Before I move on to the pinky toe, let's check out this clip from I believe the show Monster Quest.

Oh, it's a good source. I think it's the show Monster Quest. I don't know what show it's from because they don't actually say what show it's from. But it has some footage of a grass man sighting by a man called Don Keating in 1992. I would watch the first 45 seconds or so and then skip to about 120 if you don't want to just watch a bunch of talking heads. But this is just footage that we can like kind of talk about. You can kind of see it. I think honestly, it's pretty good for what it is that's what i'll say about this this for what it is a bit there at the end for what it is like yeah yeah it's from 1992

right like it's i mean it's like a qualifier that isn't really that great i'm just saying it's like a video recording from 20 to 32 years ago like it's pretty good considering that was great the sound effect that just comes in when you see a little white blob moving across the back. Yeah, you can barely see it. The biggest issue I have with this is one, what's the purpose of the filming? Why was a camera rolling? Two, the very obvious person walking in the background, why does the camera then immediately move away from that? This guy's a big foot hunter. A lot of questions. This guy's a big foot hunter. So he was, he was there to, to find it. So, but he saw something and then turned the camera

away. I don't think he saw it. Sounds like shenanigans to me. I don't think he saw it in the moment. I'm not sure what the story is there, but it's very, like, it looks like something in the background, but it just could very well be a dude. Like, I don't know. Like, the zoomed in pic is so fucking blurry, it's like almost comical. They got like seven people talking about this white blob? Yeah, like for real. They got like eight talking heads on this? It feels like just a guy in the background, but they caught on camera.

Yeah, I don't know. Casey Malisitz. But yeah, that's one of the most famous clips of the Grassman, one of the most famous Big Foots ever. And we used to play cards with these motherfuckers, and now they won't even talk to us. Come back. Come back. Some of us are chill, I promise, Big Feet.

I have heard one argument. There was a guy that I met, really cool dude, and he had a bunch of land in eastern Oregon and he had like trail cams on it, and he presented me photos of Bigfoot and photos of fairies. I'll address the latter first in that they were the most real piece of convincing evidence I've ever seen for something in the supernatural. It was completely unexplainable and I left confused and jaw dropped. But all of the Bigfoot, all of the, I should, I should email him and get a, I'll see if I can get a pic.

All of the Sasquatch stuff was like so clearly bunk and like, no, and like you're looking for something out of nothing and like rose my skeptic meter. And I, the fairies blew you away with the big foot was sus. The fairies was one of the most real things I've ever seen captured on a photograph. I'm not even being like, I'm not even doing a bit, I'm not being silly. It was a small humanoid creature with wings radiating pure golden light in the middle of the forest.

Oh fuck. What the hell? I just wanna experience a fraction of what you've been around, have people that have been around, friends up. Good God. So, so, but he's showing me all the Bigfoot stuff and I put, I was like, man, this is kind of like, not like this all just kind of seems like a deer's ass or like something falling and he just was like they're tricksters they're

tricksters they they know how to manipulate the camera yeah they know how to like they know how to like make it more blurry the footage like and they're teasing us and like it's funny to them they're inside and that's kind of what this video reminded me a little bit of is that guy's angle of like, well, they're ne'er do wells, they're they're nasty little tricksters. So that's why he knew it was going to be bad evidence. He got me so good. It sucks when we have a lot of video footage things that we'll watch on this show. That looks awesome. I don't know if it's real or not. But like, from a

video, that's really cool looking. And you'll see something bizarre or like a person talking to someone and they'll be like, there was a person in the room, but the camera shows no one, that kind of thing. Very interesting stuff. But then you'll see stuff like this and be like, we gotta, we gotta stop giving this like, this is, this sucks. This is, this shouldn't be here. This is on the same level. We should do a show about it. The least, least evidence out there is for Bigfoot for some reason. Like Bigfoot is such a crazy one to me because it's so popular.

It's probably most likely like you were saying a bear or some type of other, like if you just, everyone at home, Google bear without fur or bear without hair, that's weird looking. And you know, there's all sorts of crazy animals that could look different ways. Dozens of hairless bears like that's an anomaly Right sure, right. How many I feel like it should be real it when I think about when I think about big feet Where I think about like one of the other like the like the Jersey Devil

One sounds like a real creature that exists on earth and the other one sounds like the Jersey Devil You know what I mean? Like The Bigfoot makes sense to me logically. It feels like it could exist more than most cryptids. Some, like biologically. Isn't that weird? I don't know. Here's the pinkie. But there's no evidence.

I think it's because we also already have gorillas and apes and monkeys around, so it's easier for our brain to look at the next bigger monkey thing that's kinda close to us and be like, yeah, I can see that happening. Yeah. But if they are super intelligent, you never know. Like they could be totally on top of it. They also could all be part of the same phenomena, the trickster phenomena, they aliens, big feet, hauntings.

He thinks it's something that shows us what we want to see. He, he, he says, he thinks it's something that showing us what we want to see. He he he says he thinks it's something that's showing us what we want to see by reading our mind. It plays with our on our consciousness when it presents itself, whatever it is. Yeah. Yeah. Or he knew like nobody

will hit smart enough to be like, it's too blurry. I'm just too far away. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got it. I got him. I'm so good. I'm 61 yards away. We're perfect. Uh okay. Uh, here's the grass man's pinky toe. What is it, really? Despite any real physical evidence

of this Big Feet's existence, the most likely reason why the locals would continue to perpetuate this rumor is that over the years, a large portion of the area's tourism economy has been based around the creature, with the nearby area hosting multiple Big Feet themed festivals,

research conferences, nature events, not to mention the multiple films and television shows based on the creature. There's no obvious animal besides the generally likely black bear who could be mistakenly identified as the Grassman, but a grainy photo isn't enough to say this thing isn't a hoax either. I don't know, Z-Man, sometimes it just seems like people have to be dishonest if they want to make money in this world. He's learned a lot of lessons this guy.

Yeah, this is this is one story of Zach. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's actually it's grown up quick all through all the through the course of one Bigfoot seminar. Here's the footnote number three for Jacob to all the through the the course And when you get it right, that'll be the perfect chance to try your classic catchphrase. Custom response removed for vulgar language. Ready? Is it A, the octo-squatch? B, the Boston bah-hoo-ma-gosh.

Bah-hoo-ma-gosh? Bah-hoo-ma-gosh. Yeah, bah-hoo-ma-gosh. The Gosh. Yeah. Bahuma gosh. See the abominable swamp slob or D the baseballers ape. Yeah. Which one of those is fake? Correctly pick the fake one. Yeah. Correctly pick the fake one. Is it the octo squash, the Boston Bahuma gosh, the abominable swamp slob or the baseballers ape?

I want to say Boston Bahuma gosh. That sounds like something Alex would definitely make up. swamp slob or the baseballers ape. I want to say Boston Bahuma gosh. That sounds like something Alex would definitely make up. Well, I mean, I did live in New England for the first 30 some odd years of my life and I've never heard of the Boston Bahuma gosh. That's pretty good data. I also not seen a lot of movies, so you can't really trust me. That is one of these ballers. Ape feels so fake to me, the most ridiculous of these. So, you can't really trust me. That is 100 baseballs. A feels

so fake to me but some of these are so insane that like the fakest is real. Yeah, I'm going to say 100% it's see because the word I don't see being used to describe one of these guys. Slav stands out to me as an I'm going to be a jerk. Jesse's going to see. I'm going to lock in D. D. All right.

According to the article, the correct answer was D. The baseballer's ape is not a real big deal. Bingo, baby. Yeah. The OctoSquatch is insane. I hate it. I was going to say, let's talk about the OctoSquatch for a second.

Yeah, what? I ended up doing a little looking into the Octo Squatch for a second. Yeah, what? I ended up doing a little looking into the Octo Squatch just because we gotta know what the deal is, right? One night in the summer of 1961 in Vizcaya, Spain, a truck driver named fucking Archimedes Sanchez was driving through these crazy roads you see in the Basque Mountains until his high beams landed

on a strange form at the base of the embankment across the road that left him and his partner speechless. Here's Jesse with a quote from the Cryptids Wiki about Archimedes Sanchez. I was googling Boston and Bahumagashian, it's a thing alright. It's a thing! That's wild, I've never heard of it. Sanchez would later describe this as a three to4 foot tall hairy octopus with a shaggy coat of rust colored hair.

The creature hastily covered its round glowing eyes with one of its four tentacles like appendages, but remained unable to move, caught in the truck's headlights. Neither the truckers or this creature moved from what the men estimated for several minutes. Fear got the best of Sanchez and he ordered his comrade to attack it with a jackhammer they had and he was met with refusal. Sanchez decided to make his move. He threw the truck into reverse then drove straight towards the entity, stopping mere feet in front of it. Sanchez repeated this

several times, but never exited the vehicle. After a while, another truck passed by and the driver may not have seen it as he did not slow down or turn around. They eventually reached a standstill, neither man was willing to escape the vehicle, and the furry being was either unable or unwilling to escape. It was near midnight, and they realized there was nothing more they could do. They finished their run and left it behind. By the time Sentra's revealed his story, all evidence of the creature was long gone. The OctoSquatch. What the hell was that?

What the hell was the fucking OctoSquatch, bro? At least it's a better story than the Boston Bob whatever the hell that guy is I don't like him. What the hell was the fucking Octo Spy, bro? You know, at least it's a better story than the Boston Bob whatever the hell that guy is. If you go to that Wiki, it literally is like, some time ago, it was reported in the Boston area that an ape man was there. There was no evidence. Like, that's it. That's the entire Wiki. That's pretty much what it feels like to look up any of these big feet in some way.

It's true. That's very true. Well, back in the day, there wasn't. It's true. That's very true. There wasn't a lot going on. News was doing. Yeah. They're like an ape man, perhaps. Perhaps. And that's where it ended. That's the whole story. And then it persisted for a hundred years. I mean, as we've learned, they were making up new stories. My favorite one is the one that's like ancient Egyptian city in the Grand Canyon. And it was like a real new story. A single marine soldier guarding the entrance. With an M16. Keep it secret, yeah. Keep it secret.

All right, with that strangeness out of the way, let's finish this thing, baby. It's time for number eight, the Mandaberoong. The Mandaberoong. Shoutouts again to the Cryptids Wiki, theindependent.co.uk, and the naturalstuff.co.uk for helping me corroborate this stuff. Here's Mathis with the first two toes of the Mandabarung. What is it? The Mandabarung has been described as an Indian Yeti, a large ape-like creature with thick

black brown hair who is commonly mistaken for a man at a distance and once again this thing stinks to high heck. They are mostly seen around the tropical rainforests of Garo Hills, very near to the Bangladeshi border and grow to between 7.5 to 9 feet tall and weigh around 650 pounds and has been described as appearing fairly similar to the extinct Gigantopithecus genus of great ape. What does it do? The Mondae barong is bipedal, on two legs, and unlike the grass man who builds structures among the high grass, these big feet build on open ground and even though it has immense strength, for the most part it's shy and harmless, keeping to itself and foraging for bananas, tubers,

berries, tree bark, and crabs to stay fed, especially in late fall, early winter. However, Z-Man on- Hey, don't look at me. However, Z-Man on, however, Z-Man, on January 18th, 1999, one villager was approached by a Monde Barung in the woods who forcibly made the man suckle his breasts No one sure why exactly

But the man was quoted as saying quote the milk was sour with a mixture of bitterness See, I would have just done it willingly. It would have been no forcing Where else are you gonna get an opportunity not only see a giant ape man, but also suckle from their teat. Never. It'll be a once in a lifetime opportunity. Say yes. Staring into his eyes and him staring at you and you trying to figure out. I want them to understand how thankful I am for the opportunity. You just try to figure out what it wants.

It trying to get you to understand that it wants you to suck its titty. Only able to speak in drones, giving you the titty. It like, just it's so wild to think about somebody sucking a big foot's nipple, like meeting on a road at night. The funnier it is. I don't know, man. Did you not see the last Jedi? I did see the last Jedi. When is that? He sucked from the titty titty milk of the giant like creature there Yeah, you know what that was this a small detail you forget about that. I did I genuinely did forget about that

You've only seen 12 movies so you got them in there and memory all committed I used to work a blockbuster video I've seen every move Yeah, you know Luke Skywalker suckling the tit of a giant like water creature. Yeah, you guys watch Sasquatch Sunset I believe there's some suckling and only shit. No, what is that? Now? We have the grapes of wrath Sasquatch Sunset's like an indie movie that was filmed in yes in Oregon with like Jesse Eisenberg Where oh yeah Yes, they have no dialogue. It's just. Yeah. Yeah.

We have to watch that for all I forgot that exists. Yeah. I got to see that. It's like pretty fucking rad. I like saw it in theaters. It was really, it kind of got me. It was beautiful. Kurt and I thought we were going to go see like a funny like monkey slapstick movie.

And then it was like, emotional. Just so much more than that. That's when Stomp the Yard was sold out so we went and saw Children of Men and we like left the theater like. It's a forever change. We're like, oh we'll see this. It's plain. Could not see a movie for some reason.

Yeah. We were like, oh let's just go. We're 18 years old. All right. This one's for Jacob, the next two toes. The word that you're going to have trouble with is pronounced. The word that you're going to have trouble with is pronounced. Gigantopithecus blacki. Why is it? Traditionally, giantantopithecus blacki. Gigantopithecus blacki. I'll take it. pick a pick a pick a pick a pick a pick a pick a pick a pick a pick a pick a pick a pick a pick a pick a pick a pick a pick a

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towards human observers. Yeah. So this is exactly what you were talking about with the bird with the falcon monster. It's like the gigantopithecus black guys literally if you look it up, it's literally like an orangutan that's like double just like in all ways the big ones orangutan. And so it's it's very similar to the Loch Ness situation where they're like, oh, it's just a prehistoric creature that's lived. So that's like one vector for Bigfoot in general. Obviously, there's like space alien vectors, and dimensional vectors and all kinds of different vectors through which Bigfoot can explain their, you know, it's all about explaining the scarcity, right? It's about explaining why you don't see these around if they're out there, right? And so that's one of the vectors is the like resuscitated, or like long surviving, ancient species. Yeah. And yeah, there there, there's lots of encounters with

this thing, but nobody ever gets attacked or anything. And actually, I went digging a little bit. I want to believe as much as I want to believe that like Big Foot is real, I also want to believe that maybe not anymore. But definitely at certain points points there were like those exception species that lived beyond major extinctions. Like totally I just I want to believe that seems cool. That's like a fun flavor for Earth to have. Yeah like like like when that like 1800 story goes into like a crack in the earth. And there's like, big plants that are giant size carrots and like, you know, like up or

something. Yes, anyway, yeah. Anyway, I went deeper into this, I found some pretty interesting encounters, like they said that there's a lot of them. So I went looking to see if I could find some cool ones. Here's Jacob again with a little more from the independent.co.uk. The team members roll off a list of sightings. In 2003, Nelbisen Sangma, a local hunter, said he had watched the Manday Burong from across a valley for three consecutive days. In 2005,

at a village called Rongri, the creature was said to have entered a hut occupied by a widower and her young child. The creature had stamped out the fire and sat down but had not harmed the woman, who was too terrified to run. Another man told them how, as a boy, he had seen the severed hairy red arm of an unknown creature for sale in a remote market. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? These things seem to be so part of the, like the way this, okay, I've been reading a lot

about Big Feet, Asian Big Feet and Western Big Feet. And the big difference for me between the Asian and the Western Big Feet is that the vibe of the Asian Big Feet is that the vibe of the Asian Big Feet is that there's people out there that know about and live in a world where these things are out there and they have harmony and society with them. And the Western Big Feet, they try to kill the Bigfoot. The Bigfoot, there's one left or whatever, or they do kill it or whatever. And the only people that have ever hung out with them over here on this side of the world

are the indigenous tribes that were here before us. And that's to me like the big difference. So like the idea of them finding a severed arm in a market for sale as if it's not a big deal is like that would never happen in an American Bigfoot story, for example. And just in case you're interested in what the vibe is like with the

Mandabrung, here is some photos from another expedition to find this thing from an adventurer and cryptid hunter called John McGowan. He didn't find much but there's pictures of what he did find and I feel like that makes it even more legit. Now does this exist outside of India like or or is it like once we kind of get into like China or Nepal or anything like that like the name changes and the lore slightly it'll be a yeah it'll be a different creature like this one is like another yeah that's another thing about these these ones is that like they have a name and they're from like a region and then people go look for it in that region and that's where it's at so that's kind of like the way these work, yeah. So this guy literally went there.

Whereas like in the Western Bigfoot, it's everywhere. It's all over the US. It's just kind of like, yeah, like I seen a Bigfoot and they call them different things, but they're not really that different in the same way. And a lot of the ones in Asia also kind of intertwined with the folklore a little more. But if you go on this website, the natural stuff and you check out his photographs, which we'll put in the show notes, there's

also three pages of like, dense language of him like on the expedition to see the Mendebarang like if you go on the left side and go to Mendebarang. I mean, it's gotta be so cool, like getting down on the ground and talking to the locals. That's gonna be so that's like It he has so many stories of talking to them and so many people said so many different things and you just you gotta wonder Like what the fuck were all those people talking about like if this thing is just straight-up fake Like what the fuck are they talking about? Like why do they have these stories? Yeah

Million there's a million things it could be. Yeah, exactly. And now, as we slide home for the day, I will read the last pinky toe myself. What is it really? First of all, it's worth mentioning that Gigantopithecus blacki's closest living relative today is the orangutan, which are commonly found in Borneo and Sumatra in similar environments, and it's easier to believe a mundane animal from today traveled 3,500 miles to India rather than an extinct species that's still alive today.

So that makes sense. Like, it could be just a mistaken orangutan. And it's not like orangutans are from the area, but they're closer than an extinct, you know, ape that we only know about from the jawbones. Yeah. And also, since I did a little extra research into this, it's worth noting that mandibarung hair samples had supposedly been collected sometime around 2008. And they were submitted for DNA testing in the United States. And it turned out to

actually belong to a goatee antelope animal local to the Himalayas, which is also not exactly here, known as a Goral. So yeah, not really sure how those got into the mix of like investigating the mandibaron, which is like a hyper regional creature. But they had the fur, they checked it, and it was goat fur. So that's where we'll leave the good old Big Feet number four. And now we'll go into our very last footnote of the night, which Jesse will read for us right now. Here we go. Footnote number four, Big Food. It's dinner time on Monkey Mountain and all the Big Feet we've covered today are invited. For this last nice little creative writing exercise. Imagine you're treating each of these noble beasts to an appetizer, a main

course and a dessert. What would they be? Use your imagination, Z-Man. And don't get so excited for camp tomorrow that you forget to listen to your nocturnal education tapes while you sleep. What? Dude, I don't know. Z-Man's got a, the the camp is rigorous, man. They really want you to be a good investigator. Um okay, so let's go through this. You gotta come up with a appetizer, a main course, and a dessert that you

would that you would serve to each of the the cryptids that we've gone over today. So, we're gonna start with the Bukat Timit, the Bukat Timah Monkey Man, the BTM. What's he get? He's the one who smells like piss. Isn't he getting like yellow? He's getting, he's got to get yellow rice and shit, right? No, that's the, that's the, uh, isn't he the one with the meal? He's the spirit. That's the other spirit that we, that, that was in the footnote. But yeah, the, the, the monkey man smells like pee. Yeah. The monkey man himself just smells like pee and he kind of like just is a kind of aggressive sort of breakfast, bacon, egg and cheese, salt, pepper,

ketchup. Um, yeah. Yeah. What makes you not grumpy? Yeah, that's good. That would, that would turn me from the book It team of Monkey Man into Alexander Luis Fosciani in like two seconds. A cup of black coffee. Yeah, we're treating them. So this isn't like what they normally. This is a treat. Yeah, you're level. You're trying to nail it. Lasagna. For the Book It team of Monkey Man? Yeah, calm them down with a

good homemade meal. Chili's bucket of bones. Hell yeah. Delicious. You know, the like little tiny things and yeah, he'd eat that. Be great. Hell yeah, he would. Fuck yes, he would. Those mini ribs or whatever the hell they are. Delicious. God damn right.

Just a bucket of bones will work. We don't have to get too crazy. Just a bucket of barbecue sauce covered bones. Yeah, we don't have to get too crazy. The Falck Monster, what do we say? This is the one that was in the movie clip. This is the one that was reaching in people's houses. Yeah. He looks like the more classic Bigfoot out of all the ones we've covered today. Pop tarts for sure. strudels this guy. What do you toast? A strudel. Yeah, that's a level up. Yeah, I'll say that. I'd make him a hungry man. Frozey didn't frozen dinner. Why is this guy getting the crap food?

And the other guy was getting like a delicious breakfast. I was getting the jack links, bro. I try to think like, you know, he eats a lot of wild food, not cooked. Give me some proper American processed garbage. Yeah. Take me to the Cracker Barrel. Yeah, I proper American processed garbage. Yeah. Take him to the Cracker Barrel. Fuck monster. Take him to the Cracker Barrel one time.

Yeah, just give him the full, like give him, let him hit lunch in kind of like a Lennar situation where it's like a really late lunch where he's not going to. He really gets the authentic. At Cracker Barrel. Yeah. It's not like, it's not about special because of like better than normal human dinner, like human dinner in general special. So you want to give him the real McCoy taking the Cracker Barrel.

It's been a couple hours. Take him in as a big foot. He's going to leave as like a diarrhea big, like a 45 year old Southern father from the table. And it'll click. His brain will be like, I'm a man now. Yeah. I'm a man. All right. What about the grass man? What does he get? He has his little hut. Don't forget. Is it too clean, like too on the nose to just give them like a nice true vegan fruitatarian sort of spread? No, I think he would love that. I think he would love that. That would that would vibe me out in a different direction from me. I would have said Ohio, bring that man a Skyline Charlie

Five Way. Skyline Charlie Five Way. Yeah, okay. I think the two of you said the same thing at the same time. This is so stupid. Yeah, gotta get that Skyline. It speaks to our cultural literacy of the Midwest. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the Falc Monster had ostrich feet, but you remembered that, right? Lastly, we got the mandibarung.

What does the mandibarung get? Indian Yeti. He makes his house on flat ground, if that helps. Doesn't. Is it mean to say I want to like have a awesome vindaloo with him just to see how they handle spice? Like you wanna just see if they can, like for science, I wanna know if like, can he take spice? Like does the ape man like he take spice Like does the eight man like throw a dosa on the side? Oh All right, yeah bonus a bonus a thing what it's called with it like delicious rice pudding

It's like a it's like a rice. Yeah, I don't know what that's called either, but that is so good I would have that meal with that man.'t know what that's called either, but that is so good. I would have that meal with that man. What is that called? The cha- I can't remember what it's called. Not cha- I can't remember what it's called. Rice care? Yeah, something like that.

K-H-E-E-R? I think so. That's right. That's fucking good. Bonus ape. Alex, Xander, Louis, Fosciani. Bonus ape. What are you gonna big food me?

What do I get? Man, see the problem is, is you're like the food guru in my life. So what the fuck do I get? Oh, eat at Joe's. Bang. I'll have that black coffee. Black coffee. Yeah.

Yeah. Give me the white toast. Not in the sourdough. Appetizer is just bread, but it's five different types of bread with multiple varietals of butter and all the different, it's like this butter was made in an old cask by a nun. Alex would be like, yes, I love this butter. I legit like butter, listen, butter, olive oil, things like that people aren't thinking about it enough you're not thinking about enough butter olive oil those

things have a taste you fools anyway yeah with that the h8 sequence continues and the first big feet duology has come to a close maybe I'll come back to it maybe I won't be plenty more big feet where that came from. Hopefully that's the last time we ever hear about Zack though. Jacob, my good friend, it has been a pleasure. Thank you so much for coming onto the show. I know more than one person is going to be psyched to see this episode pop in their feed. Please, you are welcome to come back on the show whenever you want.

But today, before we go, is there anything you want to say? Anything you're working on? You can find me on the old socials at Jacob Wysocki on all the socials across the board. Give me a follow. I post about things that I'm doing. I post about places that I'm gonna be. Cool stuff coming around in the new year,

so keep your eyes peeled. And you know, it's a real treat. It's always cool to hang out with old peeled. And it's a real treat. It's always cool to hang out with old friends. And it's a treat to be an old guy with an old friend. Old friends are hard to find the older you get. So love you, buds. Thanks for letting me be here and talk about something fun. I love you too, man.

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