Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 297: A Near Death Experience

Episode Date: May 4, 2025

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Hello everybody and welcome back to the Jaluma podcast. I can't look at my screen. I'm at 297, it's always over with Rose Mike Martin joined by the Neil Breen of LA. That's me baby. Nobody can understand me, but everybody watches me. I don't know whether they're making fun of me or they like me. You know, how are you guys, how are you doing? I'm good.

How are you doing? It's just us today, no Jesse here. Is this a first? Well, no, we did a two you and me episode. Oh, like episode three. Episode 3.5? Yeah, I was gonna say like episode two or three of the show we did one. Yeah, yeah, usually we either do like

a mini-sode compilation or we do like a guest, we grab it a guest to have on. But not this time, we said you know what, just the boys today. It's been so long. been so long it's been so long since we've done a listener story episode yeah and we're just crazy it's every time we were like well we can't do like we can't do a listener story already because like we just did one and then we look and it's been like what like four or five months or something yeah since like January or somewhere around there. Yeah, it's like it takes forever, but it makes sense.

We've been tackling a lot more bigger series lately. And so what feels like not long to us is probably because we've been doing like three weeks of Heaven's Gate or, you know, whatever the fucking series we're doing at the time is. So it doesn't feel as long. Right. And I mean, I, you know, we got another big one. We got multiple big ones, going multiple, ones coming multiple multi multi multi multi partners just ones that took a lot of work On on my part and on mathis's part coming up So this is actually kind of nice to give us a little vacay

But Jesse's off doing what I believe to be like real Chiluminati like IRL type Chiluminati shit from the pictures I saw looks like it. Yeah was that in public or was that in private? I don't want to say what it is if it's like like under blue sky. I just okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah There is some there's some uh Where he is is not a lake? It is an ocean. Let's put it that way those who get that I you know, man It always feels good when you say something and I get the reference. It's like you're suddenly so cultured Yeah, I know. It's wild. Do people feel like that all the time? It's with with me? No, in my

experience? No, I'm just a crazy wizard who does who talks about like the like, you know, the historian from Mad Max who like is just like a guy who has who read a lot. No stories. Yeah, that's me. It's pointless unless the world ends and I become like the gimp slave of Chris Hemsworth. But if I do, you know, that's fair. Yeah. There is a very specific apocalypse in which my knowledge applies. Vampire or alien. Oh yeah.

Both very, very serious. Yeah. One. I don't know which one's more likely at this point in time. What do you want? Which one do you want more is the real question. Vampire apocalypse. Vampires from Vampire the Masquerade.

As long as you, as long as you get to be a vampire. Otherwise, like, I won't know. Right. Like, that's the whole point. Right. But in reality, I just want to know what aliens do take bring on the aliens. At this point, it can't be worse than what we're doing right now. Yeah. I look. Hey, guys, if you're out there and you're just waiting for a sign, let this be the sign.

I know you guys all listen to the children on your podcast up there and the saucers. This is the sign. Come on down, help us out. Just give us a hand. Use that wisdom to make me, help me sleep at night. I need a little help. What if we discover it's just a bunch of other, like the aliens are like the grays, but they're only here to like do podcast episodes about Earth. If they were, I would support them at patreon.com slash alien podcast that we made up because that's what you should do to us. Because basically, as I just explained, and math has kind of jumped on, we are aliens compared to you guys. You know what I mean? We're weird compared to you. And so now you're supporting aliens by supporting us if you want to. Does that make sense?

I think so. Is that good? I'm going to say it does. Does that work? I'm going to go with yes and it and say it does. I usually have to talk like 10 to 15% less than this, so I never know if I'm too crazy or... Yeah, yeah, Justice is really yelling at us for something by this point already, or very

upset with the pairing I have. I've come up for the two of you. Yeah, but you know what I like I like being Neil Breen because I'm immune to criticism sense. Oh yeah criticism. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, really for him. Have you seen interviews with him where he talks about like his work? I've seen a few clips like it's pretty it's like weird because like it should seem weird to me how he is But like maybe that does mean his work has some power because in watching His work. I feel like it gives me like like like it's like I don't even need to watch the interview like I understand Neil bring the man

Intimately from from watching his work. Yeah, sure. Yeah fair fair. I guess it just don't you think? Don't you think he's exactly the guy that you expect to be making this shit? Which which did surprise me. Because like, you know, at least with the guy who made the room, Tommy Wiseau, there is a level of like, he came to a level of self awareness where he tried to rebrand the movie as like a dark comedy or something. He like didn't resist.

Yeah. Well, we're Neil Breen doesn't even seem aware. No, that that's why people watch his movies. Do you know who Bizarro is? Yes. From like Superman. Yes. Yes. Yes. Neil Breen is like a Bizarro version of Christopher Lambert from Highlander. He's like, it's like he's like as as as heightened and not maybe not Highlander one when he learns you get what I'm saying like sure when he's when he has the whatever it's called the quickening when all the yeah all the like some knowledge gestalt knowledge of all the Highlanders and stuff goes in his brain and he's like awoken and saves the world. Yep. What I want the aliens

to do to me. Yeah Neil Breen is like the. Oh, he's like me and Superman version of that. Is he just shooting out beams of anti information that he just like imagines? He just imagines the like good ends for humanity. And it's like him personally punching like dictators and like oil barons in the dick and tying up people and they're like, oh, serial killer fashion. See, it's like about him. It's like, it's like, like dictators and like oil barons in the dick and tying up people and then like all serial killer fashion. See, it's like about him. It's like a bit.

It's like he's the one he's like. Neil Breen is the guy. Yeah, like not like his characters, but the guy and unlike reality where we you and me, we're the ones today. Yeah. But speaking of looking at somebody's work through a narrow lens and trying to interpret it to our own ends. Shall we? Shall we wade into the reader stories? work through a narrow lens and trying to interpret it to our own ends.

Shall we, shall we wade into the reader stories episode two 97 listener stories? Yeah. Uh, this is quite a few ones from our discord because I always forget that there's a reader, like share your stories, part of the discord. Uh, so this is a, this is a discord heavy one. Well, yeah, at least half, I would say probably, would you say that's a Patreon discord? It is a Patreon discord. How interesting. Yeah. It's about Well, yeah, at least half, I would say. Probably. Would you say that's a Patreon discord? It is a Patreon discord. How interesting. Yeah, it's about a, what, like a thousand people or something in there? I don't know how many. What an incredible cult to be a part of.

Go in there. Go join us. We all hang out. And we won't convince you to do anything bad to yourself. Other than watch more episodes of the podcast. Just give us 10 bucks once. That, like, you know, every once in a while. Every once in a while, toss 10, 15, 20 bucks our way.

Yeah. We'll stay out of your hair. I do whatever else you want. Yeah. You take this one away first. Like, who started this? This comes from Twiggy on the discord. It's called a long time community member.

Yeah, it's called Finland spooks. Super long time listener join the discord because I recently remembered some things about my host family's apartment in Finland and wanted to share with people who might be interested during my time with my my host family's apartment in Finland, and wanted to share with people who might be interested. During my time with my second host family, and I guess this means that this person is a exchange student to Finland at one point in time, which is crazy because I country I never would have thought to like be an exchange

student for I would feel like to spend eat fish out there. It's a pretty it's a pretty wild place. Like it's pretty like nature power. Like, you're gonna go out there and be a badass, I think, is the vibe. Oh, is that what would happen? I love Finland. Would I not survive Finland wilderness? I don't know. I've never been there, but it sounds fantastic. But also, yeah, I used to date a girl who was an exchange student in America.

Pretty crazy thing to do in your life, was an exchange student in America, pretty crazy like thing to do in your life, being an exchange student. It's a huge part of your life and you go and you spend it outside of your own culture. I visited her for like a month one time over Christmas break when I was like 16 or 17. And I swear to God, it like gave me my worldly understanding of culture, like, it put me in my place culturally as an American in a way that I don't think a lot of kids get a chance to so that's pretty cool. Anyway, during my time with my second host, I digress. During my time with my second host family, they stayed at a place

that used to be an old bank but was converted into apartment buildings. There was a big vault door that no longer worked but was being used as a storage room. It was super heavy and they always kept it shut. Once I was walking out to get water and the vault door somehow opened on its own despite being fully shut and too heavy for wind to push it. I wish I could say I stayed to watch what happened next, but I dipped back into my room and hid like another 15 year old would. I had a lot of paranormal experiences there. I would see shadows through the glass of the bedroom doors.

One time I woke up to the noise of a disembodied voice screaming, although we could maybe chalk this up to sleep paralysis. I also feel like I was being watched when I was alone, so towards the end of my stay there I always stayed out late and slept over at my best friend's house or my at the time boyfriend's house when my host family left for the night. Bonus story. When I came back from Finland, I lived in this historic building in Illinois. It was an old farmhouse and I had the worst case of sleep paralysis there. I woke up to see a girl crab walking upside down towards my bed.

When she got up close, she disappeared and I can move again. Definitely not the type of girl you want in your bed. I mean, that is Twiggy. Look, don't judge another person's like you don't yuck another person's yum. You know, maybe somebody likes to be crab walked up to in the middle of the night. That someone's like desire out there. There's billions of humans out there. There's at least one out there who like that is their thing.

And going back to the haunting just for a second, like, it's a different feeling than the normal stuff, right? Like, obviously, all these things in in, in like little individual chunks can be explained away as simple things. But when you've been somewhere that you like, if you've had the experience, right being somewhere and being like totally freaked out by it even though like you didn't see like a figure or something you just you know you hear some sounds and some stuff yeah and then you then later find out that that place has been reported as haunted by 7 000 people right it's a it's a it's a creepier feeling because you're like i know that feeling of of the creepiness like, there's like this tone of creepiness that the whole place takes on. And everything puts you on edge and your brain like spins in this like, paranoid way. Yeah, I don't know what that I don't know what that is. But that to me is like the real thing that convinces people whether or not some places

haunted it's like, there's this feeling and then like normal things that are explainable start to like Kind of like snowball and you're like, okay, there's this is fucking there's fucking something going on Right. I will never forget the was it indie pop-con a couple years ago where the do everybody was having We I didn't have a single one but every including you where could have literally been like, you know attributed to something normal somebody Trying to open your door handle or whatever. Right. In the middle of the night, somebody came in, like tried my door. Yeah. And I talked about this on the show when it happened too. Yeah, exactly. But like, yeah, it's another weird thing or, uh, you know, on a more tangential way, it's like the shit I sometimes see in the sky that I don't, it's like, so,

so many of them, I, my brain and I obviously want to attribute to something normal. When they start racking up and some of the weirder ones start sticking out, you start fucking wondering. So I don't talk about on the fucking show because it's just not. It starts to feel crazy. Yeah, you start to feel crazy. Yeah, crazy. So much so much about what we perceive is not correct.

Like, not hearing anything anything like just so much of what I'm my whole life, just what our instruments as body and our mind take in from the world around us is not often accurate. So it's kind of interesting. All right. This is the next one. This was from a discord user Seladon cistern. The white light is real. My near death experience and some possible biological explanations for perceptions and death. Hi, everyone. Longtime listener, light is real. My near-death experience and some possible biological explanations for

perceptions in death. Hi everyone. Longtime listener, first time caller on the Chiluminati Ho spectrum, I would say I'm more of an Alex, but I respect the Mathises out there. I rarely, I rarely see an Alex. I like that. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, I appreciate that as well. I think this story might appeal to Jesse and his attempt at a scientific explanation for the paranormal. Well, so, so sorry he's not here. Jesse can't help you now. Thank you so much to today's sponsor ghost bed. Ghost bed mattresses are designed with cutting edge cooling technology, ergonomic support and premium materials to ensure that you are going to get the best night's sleep possible, which is super important for people like me who are just really sweaty side sleepers.

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that the huge Los Angeles fire started this month. So this is, you know, a few months ago, uh, Eton Canyon, uh, Pasadena one summer in the early 2010s, I was hiking in Eton Canyon. Locals may recognize this place as a popular hiking spot with a small stream that leads up to a waterfall. It's beautiful. Is it? We should go sometime. We literally went like, Oh, is that where we went? No, no, no. We, we literally went there. and my wife like went oh Maybe like a couple years ago like maybe like one or two years ago not even Experienced hikers would know that you can hike climb past the first waterfall to a further four or more waterfall

Waterfalls winding along the river path. Yeah, that does sound awesome Yeah, I did this hike over a dozen times with my friends as rambunctious high school teenagers, and on one such day, I was coming back from a nice hike to the second waterfall with a friend. We were very close to the end, and we came upon a razor's edge, a path of rock about 30 feet long, 3 feet wide, with nothing to the left or right. A copy of Ninja Gaiden 3, specifically made for the Wii U. A couple was walking up the path while my friend and I were coming down.

I stepped aside to let them pass, taking a few confident steps forward. And my shoes slipped on the gravel. The upper canyon was known to be dangerous. There have been around 20 deaths, many more injured, mostly due to the deteriorating granite rock on the higher path. Per day, that's per day by the way.

Just kidding. Holy shit, bro. I was gonna say, holy shit bro. I was bopped to believe you man, I can't tell new on. That day I became one of them, I slid down about 10 feet clawing at the stones, tearing up my fingertips, then fell 40 feet off of a sheer cliff. This time seemed to stretch, it was oddly peaceful.

Jesus Christ. Yeah man, that's crazy. 40 feet is a lot. That's a big fucking fall. That's like a house, that's oddly peaceful. Christ. Yeah, man, that's 40 feet is a lot. Big fucking fall. That's like a house. That's like a big house. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's like that's like that's like an office building.

Yeah. Is it? Oh, yeah. So how many stories just 40 feet do you think? Like one floor of a house is like probably like 12 to 15 feet. OK, so like three stories or so, probably then little. Yeah, maybe maybe two to three somewhere in between there. Yeah. And even then, like, that's that's that's pretty like an apartment. It's smaller than that.

That's just so high. Yeah. Yes. Leg breaker. That's death. That could be death. Yeah. No shit. Depending on how you lay it. Time seemed to stretch. It was oddly peaceful seeing the treetops sway in the wind. Then very quickly, the ground came up to meet me.

See, when you dive into a body of water, the fluid moves around you to gently bring you to a stop. But when you dive into rock, you become the fluid. I broke both my wrists, my knee, my ankle, shattered the front of my skull. Shoot. It's crazy. Yeah, that's rough.

It was this ladder injury that preceded my experience which knocked at the door of my skull. She's crazy. That's that's rough. It was this ladder injury that preceded my experience, which knocked at the door of the paranormal. What a sentence. Beautifully written. Maybe I'll have you write my scripts moving forward.

I don't do it anymore. Many people report seeing a bright white light, then dying, hearing voices, speaking to loved ones, witnessing the heavens, etc. My experience was similar but different.

As I hit the ground, the light was an instant searing white. There was nothing but white, no visual registry at all, simply just a burning whiteness beyond the likes of even staring directly into the sun. It enveloped my whole vision and I thought that was it for me. I felt my... Yeah, that... When I read about near-death experiences, I always wonder the moment... Like everybody seems to have that moment where they're like, oh, shit, I think I'm dead. And then the moment of like, wait, if I'm dead, how am I thinking I'm dead? Yeah, which is fascinating. I felt myself worrying that this was the end, it would just be me alone consumed in this ocean of white light forever. Fortunately, after what felt like maybe a full minute, it began to fade. Slowly, the light's periphery took on a bright neon green hue, which consumed the whiteness moving inward. Gradually, my vision finally returned in a delirious double vision. It was this greenness that stuck out to me, and I think many people experience a tiny facet of it in their everyday lives. Phosphenes. A phosphene is a phenomenon

of seeing light without light actually entering the eye. You'll notice this when you rub your eyes or scrunch your eyelids tightly together. You might notice little green or white visual distortions. Definitely. Yeah, to me, phosphenes feel like an extremely tiny version of white light. I wasn't able to find any really conclusive literature on the subject, which side note, I found myself in the near death experience rabbit hole due to something else I've been working on in the background. And that seems to be the most frustrating thing is a lot of the scientific studies on near death experiences are very, very, very difficult to do

because they always happen after the fact. And so you're getting a subjective experience and they're you know, they don't have like why they're going to have a near-death experience exactly. Yeah, so yeah, really There's not really any conclusive literature on the subject Maybe because a neuro cell tissue biology of near-death experience are difficult to study exactly phosphines are very common visual distortions But maybe understudied medically while a phyto ESEA or phytosia phytopsia phytopsia that makes so much better phytopsia is another light perception phenomenon associated with migraines oh yeah my

brother and my dad suffer from migraines and they see this all the time with light white lights they know yes those like those yeah they'll they'll know when migraines coming before it happens because they'll get white flashes in their eyes and my sister is similar. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Phosphine is very common to understand medically. Meanwhile, some studies on cardiac near-death experiences describe more of a traditional tunnel followed by a slow enveloping of light. It is possible this tunnel experience is brought on by something more neurological or related to the slow depletion of oxygen versus the sudden impact I had. Something else to mention was the sound. Upon hitting the ground I heard by far the loudest thing I have ever experienced.

At that moment of impact, accompanying the white light all I could hear was this intense, blaring, unwavering sound. Like hundreds of bells tolling at once at the exact same moment, but with their sound stretching on indefinitely. like one harmonious tone going on forever. Harmonious. Interesting. Yeah. It sounds almost like tinnitus a bit. Um, it felt unending, but slowly its frequencies began to die down until all that was left was a quiet ringing. Then the sounds of birds and rustling leaves as my senses returned.

Often in the movies when a bomb goes off, all sound is gone except for a ringing in the ears. This is called tinnitus. A sound is perceived by tiny hair-like cells in the inner ear. These cells are tuned to perceive different frequencies. These ear cells can die, often caused by a loud noise or injury. However, due to the way sound is transmitted into the brain when one of these ear cells dies rather than losing the perception of the sound, you instead just hear that sound

all the time as a ringing. This ringing is usually at a narrow frequency range, depending on the type of cell that was injured. What I heard was as if all of those cells all at once suddenly screamed out and blaring unison. There are often accompanying reports of sounds with near-death experiences, for example the sound of voices, a chorus, singing. Recalling what I felt, I could easily interpret it sounding like a chorus.

There was something almost strangely voice-like to the bell tolls harmonizing. Supertonitus? Yeah, the worst X-Men power. And it felt like there were thousands. Though instead of loved ones or angels, I believe it was the sound of short-circuiting ear cells as my skull smashed against the rock. To be clear, this is not my area of expertise. I study pharma, not cell death.

What I have discussed here are anecdotal explanations at best. There are whole fields on the biology and chemistry of death, which I won't get into, not to mention endogenous DMT machine elves as a student. Yeah, that that shit I don't even know. That is so fucking fascinating to me. And it's like DMT. Yeah, it's weird. What people see.

How is sometimes like people see the same things over the course of like different really, really specific, really specific things. These things are like super playful. Yeah, that's a whole separate rabbit hole. Exactly. Not like I've I've said that I will always say publicly, happily. Once before I'm dead, I would like to do DMT. That's it. I feel like I feel like that's not that crazy of a right. That's I feel like that's a fair thing.

I know plenty of people who just like do it from time to time. I can't imagine doing it once and having experience like I've read and been like, bro, I can't wait to go back. That feels life changing, even if it's all in your fucking head. I told you about the Uber driver who like went and did it was I can't remember if she did like DMT or if she did ayahuasca, but she did like something really powerful. And then she came back and she was like, I adopted a child two days ago. Yes, yes, yes. I do. Oh my god, oh my God. Maybe not what the, you know, I don't want that to happen to me. I don't want any kids.

Anyway, still I'm convinced that what I perceived might hold small pieces of truth toward the perceptions in death and dying. Sorry, this has gotten very long, so I will wrap up. I was found on the hiking trail. A rescue helicopter was called and I was airlifted to a local hospital. After many surgeries, I was put back together with several metal screws and plates.

I made a full recovery with no complications. Awesome. I'm so happy to hear that. Crazy. Just a couple of scars. That's awesome. Human body is amazing. Yeah.

Isn't it? The things the body can survive is nuts. I am extremely thankful. The hiking paths to the waterfalls were eventually walled off due to so many people falling, dying or injuring themselves. And then very recently, a combination of dry air, dead vegetation, and high winds resulted in one of the most damaging fires in LA history. Is Ian Canyon a flap?

A hidden portal? A fire and death? Who knows? Probably not, but I found it uncanny that the place where so many have been injured or killed is also where this natural disaster tore out of. Love the show and look forward to the future episodes. Feel free to use this happy answer any questions. Thanks for reading TLDR.

Dumb guy falls off cliff, hits ground, nearly dies, sees white light. Here's chorus of giant belt. Yeah, I, uh, I'm so glad you lived, by the way, like, and it is fascinating because I wonder, like you got lifted. I am. I'm assuming you didn't like flat line luckily. Cause like that would be fucking horrifying, but it is interesting. Cause like, yeah, the phosphine thing is something I've read

up about plenty of times and like, you know, as somebody who, no matter what, when he closes his eyes, he sees chaos and like of colors. And with open eyes, I see visual static at like almost like a transparent snow. So like, but I thought it was phosphine's for a while and phosphine's are Like if you yeah if you if you take your hands right now close your eyes and then mash your hands into your eyes what you see is phosphine's cuz

You're burning cells being like yeah. Yeah Yeah, exactly. It was like oh, okay. You see things and maybe that's what it is like. It's very possible I've read a lot of near death experience studies of what like, they try to explain, like what happened or what like why they've certain things happen. And it's like you like you said, even in your story, it's it's really impossible, kind of study the shit with any regularity, because, you know, people dying is not something people are

like ready to get hooked up to study about. I just want to say, likeudos for doing such an unremarkable job of describing it, if you know what I mean. I mean that as a compliment in the sense that- Oh, the writing was impeccable. Well, I just mean you took no attempt to draw conclusions from what you experienced or make it special in any way. And we're very willing to assume that that's what happens to everybody who falls 40 feet off a cliff and giving it to us in a very sensorly and like pragmatic way. I really liked that. So, yeah, it was, it was super well written. Uh, I'm glad you're okay.

Like I said, like that shit is, I can't imagine that, uh, in the, in the discord, there were a bunch of replies, uh, to a few other people who had a few near death experiences and they all say several similar things in that, like, like the discord, there were a bunch of replies to a few other people who had a few near death experiences. And they all say several similar things in that like, like they go them going from panic to sudden calm was one of the things that people remember, like so vividly because have so weird it is. And it's because the body, like literally, shots drugs you up. Yeah, yeah, it's like, boop, time to shut down. Because it's

better. It's to put you in a state of almost stasis is going to improve your odds of survival. But I can't imagine like that must be such a strange feeling of like panic, panic, panic. I'm OK. I shut it down. Yeah. Kind of kind of kind of good news, though. Kind of relief. Right. Yeah. I hear that like, thank God. All right. Um, you know, if I if I have a violent injury, this next one comes from annotate my faith on discord, a pretty hardcore discord name of, is that an invitation to you, to

fellow discord ease to annotate your faith? That's hardcore. You don't want to do that. And you don't want to let the public do that. Yeah. This one's called the vengeful spirit. I have a fun story that is not my own, but my mother's. So in the 80s, my mom and her friends lived in a 15 bedroom abandoned hunting lodge in a small town near

Yosemite. It's until dawn. Yeah, literally 15 bedrooms. She lived there for two years. The first year of her living there was with her friends and they would throw parties often. They didn't have normal running water. Excuse me. And one of the neighbors would randomly clog up the stream nearby so they'd have a hundred plus people over with no running water, but that's a story for another time, lol. That neighbor gave my mother hell, but he's dead now. The second year, my mom was the only one.

What the heck? Yeah, insane. Fuck that guy. Yeah. The second year, my mom was the only one living in this abandoned hunting lodge. However, the owner had a groundskeeper who lived on site, but he had his own little house off to the side so he wasn't in the mansion. The part of the story that makes this interesting that I haven't mentioned is this place was also haunted. I don't know when, but at some point in this house's history,

it became a tuberculosis ward and tons of people died there So my mom was living in a 15-bedroom haunted house alone I wonder it kind of makes sense in the time if it was off what I'm thinking like it probably the 1800s Because what was the common like cure for fucking tuberculosis ghosts breathe in mountain air? Yeah, go breathe in natural air. So you'll hang out with a bunch of other people with tuberculosis Yeah air. Yeah, go breathe in natural air. Go hang out with a bunch of other people with tuberculosis. Yeah. She would hear the ghosts walking around on the second floor, possibly just rats, if you're a skeptic. My family tends to believe in the paranormal.

My mom's friends all have tons of crazy stories about this place. But another thing to keep in mind is they were all on drugs most of the time. Well, your famous sounds. This is an incredible story. This is they're like, this happened. Every day everybody there was high. And for one entire year, it was just somebody living in a mansion and a haunted mansion by themselves. I swear utterly fucking blasted.

Uh, I feel it is important to share that my mom felt incredibly safe in this house. Like the spirits were taking care of her since she always spoke to them and acknowledged their existence. Nonetheless, some odd experiences that unfortunately I do not have all the details of occurred maybe, but that is not the main part of this story. My mom had no money so she was living with no electricity and still no real running water. She told me stories about how she'd paint Rush lyrics all over the walls and how much she loved it there.

I think I want to hang out with your mom. Yeah. So that's fucking awesome. How cold the winters were, how she would hitchhike all over town and how much she hated her neighbor. Yeah, I love your mom. I'm going to be her new husband. This one one day, the groundskeeper came to her and told her she needed to leave since the house was being sold.

She grabbed her stuff. It wasn't much. She got out of town. She was on her way back home to LA when she some LA when she somehow learned about what I will share next. Mom was a squatter, hell yes. The people who bought the house turned on the gas and the whole place blew up. Everyone except for the groundskeeper died. My mom and all her friends stand by the fact that the ghosts were pissed off that she was kicked out. She took care of the house, after all. The bitchy neighbor had put three massive boulders on the

driveway to the house, so the fire department couldn't come to put out the fire, and we went there a few years ago, and the bitchy neighbor's son ended up buying the property and built a much smaller house on the site. We were given permission to walk around, and there still remains of the house that my mom lived in. She has the burnt-up and charred doorknobs still, which she took when she heard the news went back. Whether you believe the ghosts who were upset about her leaving wanted revenge or that it was simply a tragic accident with no other factors at play, I hope you enjoyed this story and my mom has given me permission to share and extends that permission for this to be

read on the podcast. Thanks for reading and may everyone in the story rest in peace. Uh, my mom took some pictures. Once you went back, there's some here from discord. You can actually go check, but they seem to be not available anymore. Is that right? No, if you just, cause it's a document, uh, how do you open this shit? Control click to follow. Yeah. Does control left click on the link control left click. Okay. Oh yeah, there it goes. No, it's just not opening the link.

Oh, weird. I can say it's opening the link and saying it's not the content is not there anymore. Well, I will got you even better. Good old Gyatso will come through. Yeah. Sponsors, please. Dude, what is there? What is got so where are you guys? Are you guys like a two person office in San Francisco? Like what's the zone? Do you guys have some money, some investor money that you want to put towards PR? Doesn't that be a lot? I use you either way regularly. Good. I would love, I would love it. Okay. So let's see what we got.

There's one, there's another, this is of the house exploded. These are discord. You can literally just go scroll up and see yourself. Yeah, these are amazing these look like They're from a movie or a day do you write like really well done like yeah beautiful like boot beautiful pictures also This is last one here. Well, well composed images This one's awesome to like it looks right out of like a still shot of a movie or something So this one has a car in it which leads me to believe that there was a car on the premises that exploded in the explode. You can see it. The windows are blown out. The tie, the, the, uh,

the tires are gone, melted, destroyed. I don't know what the fuck. I mean, you can see it's like all fucked up. That is so crazy. Are we going to toss these in the show notes? Cause these are fantastic. Yeah, I'll keep them in the show notes. Yeah. Fantastic. That's fantastic too. I agree. Haunting black and white images. I just walked away that I like your mom a lot Yeah, she seems like a like a legend like a wizard All right. Here we go. The next one is the cuckoo clock from this one's from reddit. Jay, who's 1892 Everyone long time fan of the show

I feel like I may have posted the story years ago during the pandemic, but I can't remember and don't have access to my old account anymore for whatever reason. So here goes. To start, I should say that I'm more of an Alex. Look, two Alex's in a single episode today. Is it my day? Is my fortune starting to turn? Yeah, as our audience expands, you know, more of Alex's start showing up.

So too has their minds. Ooh, I'm pretty chill about everything in the paranormal realm. You know more of Alex's start showing up. So too has their minds. Oh I'm pretty chill about everything in the paranormal realm. I've seen some things in my life I can't explain but I'm not sure that I'm a hardline believer in some of the more insane stuff out there Although it would be cool if it was real as long as the theories aren't hurting anyone. Yeah agreed It's until they get inevitably racist. They're fine inevitably or like, just don't take medicine. Just die. Yeah. Spread the disease, spread the disease, die. Actually just go outside,

there's a red berry you're looking for, grab that, mix it with some lemonade, Minute Maid specifically, drink it, and just go to sleep for a week, you'll be fine. Oh my God. So around 10 years ago, my family moved to Florida to be closer to my grandfather who was sick. He was terminal and he knew that eventually his time would come. My mom would routinely go to my grandparents

house to help them organize stuff and get their affairs in order. My grandpa was also very practical and kept saying, when I go, don't keep anything, it's just stuff. And we agreed. Over the next year and a half, he seemed like he was doing well through treatments, but he took a turn for the worse. My uncle flew down to be there when he passed. One night I was sound asleep, but around three in the morning, I shot awake, unable to breathe. I sat up gasping for breath and gripped my chest, and after a minute, I was able to calm myself and I eventually went back to sleep. The next morning, I got up to find my mom sitting at the kitchen table alone. I said good morning and went to get some breakfast, and she looked rattled and told me that my grandpa had

passed in that night. She said she had woken up, not able to breathe, about two minutes before I went to get some breakfast and she looked rattled and told me that my grandpa had passed in that night. She said she had woken up not able to breathe about two minutes before her phone rang and when I asked what time it was, she said it was around 3am. I was stunned. I told her what had happened to me and she was shocked and silent. A few minutes later, my uncle who was staying with us came back from getting coffee, complaining that he had woken up in the middle of the night. My mom had asked him what time and he also said around 3am. Did he have a

did he have a heart attack? Yeah, I'm curious. Well, this is the terminal. So it probably was taken from whatever the sickness usually if you have if you usually have a terminal disease, it's like something that kills you that just yeah, yeah, maybe. Yeah, hang on. Let's see what it says. Maybe I'm just jumping with the gun here. I felt too weird to be a coincidence. And the next day, my mom was sitting in the living room wiping dust off of a cuckoo clock. And I asked where she got it. My grandpa had gotten it when he was in the military and stationed in Europe.

When he came home, he brought his handcrafted cuckoo clock for the house. It was very high quality. And my mom always loved it. She said she knew he wanted her to get rid of everything, but she couldn't bring herself to give her the clock. She took it into her closet and stored it on a deep shelf very securely behind a couple of heavy items so she could figure out what to do with it later. Exactly so many dude.

And that's what happened next. Not only 10 minutes later while we were having dinner, we hear a loud crash. We all rush in and find the clock shattered on the floor, not broken and repairable, shattered into hundreds of pieces. My mom stared at the pile and said, well, I guess that makes my decision for me and starts laughing. That's the best reaction to have to that,

to be just like, yeah, fuck, I would take it the same way, like, well, what the fuck? My grandpa was- Especially after he said that, you know what I mean? Yeah. My grandpa was a very kind, caring man, but hated sentimentality. We just figured the situation was him saying bye on the way out and telling my mom not to keep anything after he was gone. Love the show.

Keep it up. Genuine heartwarming story. Yeah, right. Yeah. It's because it is a pile of coincidences, right? It was just you who woke up at 3am gasping for breath. I've had that happen to me. I sleep apnea. Of course. You struggle. But then you mom and your uncle and people start waking up. On the same night at the same time, at the same time that grandpa goes out.

It's a little fucking weird. That's what I'm saying about the tone. Like there's like a feeling when it's, when that convinces everyone. Yeah, it's strange. I don't want a tangent here, but it's just you and me. So, you know, I'm gonna tangent a little bit here. We got time, man. But I went back, my mom got into a really bad car accident not too long ago. I was back home for a little bit visiting

and we were just sitting and chatting and talking about stuff. And we're talking about my grandmother who passed when I was eight, but I very vividly remember a lot about my grandmother even back then. And, you know, my mom was 28 at the time. So losing her mom at that time was devastating. And there were a lot of so there was a lot of weird things

that happened immediately following my grandmother's death. There was and I remember this pretty vividly. My mom and my dad were doing dishes in the kitchen, and my mom just kind of stopped and like grabbed my dad's arm and just said to him, do you smell that? And he nodded and he said, yeah, I smell roses, which were my grandmother's favorite flower for everything. She always had roses everywhere.

We didn't have any in the house at the time. And my mom nodded and she goes, yeah, I can smell it too. And that was it for that moment. And then my grandfather, not sure it was long after, while he was in bed, saw my grandmother walk down the hallway, walked into his bedroom, looked at him, turned and then left and walked down the stairs. And he got up and went after her and she was not there. The only other weird things that happened with is my mom. She would had dream about my grandmother every single night for just like conversations and whatnot.

How long? Oh God, I would say probably a year, but I'll get I'll get the exact amount of time next time seriously into oh they were they were very close very very close But she says she now she'll never forget the last dream she had of her Because they were sitting on the bed just at the end of the bed talking to each other and my grandmother said to her You're gonna be okay. You're strong and you can get through this. You don't need me anymore Wow literally, I apparently like burst into a bright white light

and disappeared, my mom woke up and she has never dreamed about her since. Straight out of the movie Casper right there. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, crazy. So it's like those little, but it's like, it could just be dreams or subconscious. Yeah.

It's being like, okay. And does it matter if it is or it isn't really? Right, but it's still fucking weird. Or you know, pile it up with all the other little things my family experienced and it's't right. Right. But is it still fucking weird or you pile it up with all the other little things my family experienced and it's just strange. Okay, this one is from Reddit user Urilla. And it's called it's called the banshee that haunted my grandfather. Yeah,

feel free to use this on the pod. Assuming my writing isn't too terrible. I thought I'd share something that might be of interest to the boys slash this sub. Back when I was younger, my grandfather, on my dad's side, owned a potato farm in Georgia. We lived a few states away, but every summer we would drive out and spend at least a week or two visiting my grandparents. For some context, my grandfather was a real true grit, no-nonsense kind of guy. Served in the military when he was younger,

worked on farms for most of his life after that until he bought his own, was religious, but didn't go to church because he thought preachers were too corrupt and not helping the community enough, et cetera, which is to say the kind of guy who didn't seem like he would believe in ghosts. He was a very down-to-earth guy, only concerned with the here and now.

And yet one night when I was probably about 10 or 11, we were having a large family gather at his house, my parents and all my father's siblings and their kids and some extended family. Shout out being 10. I'd say best age to be hell. Yeah. Uh, yeah. 1998. I have very fond memories of that year. And it was also like- Ocarina of time too. You're just old enough to be like somewhat conscious in making decisions, but also young enough where the world's problems still don't fucking matter. Big time. And like also like when you're 10, I feel like you're like a little bit less

sure what's real. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's a great way to set to put it. I think I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. You're like- Once you get teenagers and then when puberty starts, the world starts like, you start to know for sure. You start to know for sure what's happening. For the most part, most of the time. Well, when you're 10, you're like, you're like a lot of 10 year olds are like, send sent. Okay. Santa. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. What is the deal with that? You know, no, listen, if you're 10, you're listening to the show, please step away for a second Yeah, when did you stop believing in Santa? My mom is like, it's all fake. Have fun like right from the very beginning Yeah, my mom doesn't really it was like one of those situations where like My mom wouldn't go to church kind of thing, you know, like yeah Yeah, no, no, no negativity around there at all if anything

My mom made Easter the funnest holiday ever by making me Easter bunny hunts and like create it's probably why I'm on this show today is because she like basically made me ARG's to solve on Easter. But it just good but she never wants she was very much about educating me and I respect that I yeah, I can respect it. Yeah. Okay. So 10 years old, it was getting later. Oh yeah. Okay. It was getting later into the night. The adults had have had a few drinks by that point, nothing excessive, but enough that they were talking pretty freely with my mother, who absolutely is a true believer

and was in a ghost hunting group at one point. Awesome. Yeah, I've always wanted to do that. Everybody's moms are so cool. I just want to date everybody's mom. My mom's cool though. I like my mom. Your mom is cool. Yeah. I've met your mom. She's very nice and cool. The fact that she had a fucking cool ass meditation experience, I think about that still. She's probably listening to this show right now. In the astral realm. Yeah, no, she's probably just yeah she's probably astral projecting

to the recording of the show and listening to it. Fuck. Yeah. Uh, hi. It was getting later into the night the adults had had a few drinks by that point nothing excessive but enough that they were talking pretty freely and my mother who was absolutely the true believer was in a ghost hunting group at one point started asking my grandfather to tell the story about the woman in the red dress again. Now my grandfather was generally a relaxed guy, but after two or three times of her asking, he was clearly getting agitated, not knowing any better, though me and my cousins asked him to tell the story. He refused again, but this time,

one of my uncles finally pipped up, which I've never heard that phrase before. But I'm gonna go with piped up. And also, I'm gonna go ahead and say, A24, if you're listening, Woman in the Red Dress, next movie, just go ahead and grab that title. It's out, it's next. Hey, if you're mouse from the Matrix, next program.

Oh, fuck yeah. Look, look, he don't like to talk about it, but he sees this woman in red occasionally who tells him when someone is going to die Fuck that shit, dude. I hate the woman in red. What a movie idea though. 824 is like write that down write that down It's like a hot banshee Uh, he don't like to it's like it's like l fanning as a banshee or sir.onin maybe. He don't like to talk about it though, so move on. Not satisfied with that answer, my cousins and I started hounding the adults for answers, and finally my grandfather spoke up very reluctantly. He told us that it started when he was younger.

He'd had a hard childhood, he was the middle child with an older and younger brother and while not abusive his father was Unfortunately a terrible drunk and his family spent most of their life in poverty Right up until one day when he was a teenager He was sitting out in the yard when he saw a woman in a red dress From what he thought was the Civil War period if not older walking up their driveway She looked at him for a moment, then went into the house. A few minutes later, he hears yelling from inside and runs in. He thought it was related to the woman that had just walked in, but instead, it turns

out his father had had a heart attack and dropped dead on the spot. Once things had settled down, he asked his mother about the woman in red, but she said she hadn't seen anything and assumed he was just overwhelmed by his father dying and eventually managed to brush it off. Then, again, a few years later, he's in the military sitting on the porch of his house when the phone starts to ring. His wife goes inside to answer it, and as she does, he sees the woman from all those years ago again. He stood and asked her who she was. But he never got an answer. His wife started yelling from becoming side. He turned his head for a moment. And when

he looked back, the woman was gone. This is a movie. This is an actual low budget movie. An episode of the Night Gallery. Yeah. You can make this for a million dollars on one farmhouse. The call it turned out was from the older brother's wife. His older brother's wife, his brother had... The call it turned out was from his older brother's wife. His brother had just died also of a heart attack like his father. Oh, good Lord.

Yeah. Another incident a few years later when his uncle died. You think she'd give him some more leeway to say goodbye. I don't know what her goal is. Yeah, I don't know. Is she the Grim Reaper? Why is she? Why is she going to the one that's not dying? Maybe she just flew through the phone, popped out. Oh, I don't know.

I don't know. Another incident a few years later when his uncle died. This time, the woman had walked into his living room, looked at him, and then just vanished. Finally, the last one he would tell us about was a few years before. He had been sitting on his porch again in his rocking chair. He closed his eyes for a second, and when he opened them the woman was a few feet away in her red dress staring at him. He said he was filled with the strangest sense of both dread and acceptance, and after a

second of staring at her he just shook his head and felt an intense need to check on his younger brother. He walked inside, picked up the phone, and called his younger brother's house. His oldest daughter answered, and my grandfather told her to go get her mom and to find his brother. Sure enough, he'd went out earlier in the day to go get her mom and to find his brother. Sure enough, he'd went out earlier in the day to the store and no one had seen him since. They assumed he had stopped to do some fishing on the way home and lost track of time, not anything too unusual that far out in the sticks.

The truth was, though, he had a flat tire, and while walking back into town to get a tow, he was hit by a truck and killed on the spot. Goddamn. After telling us about his youngest brother, it was clear he was uncomfortable and said, that's all we're getting out of him and not to bring it up again. After a bit of back and forth, my mother did drop it and for the most part, outside of the occasional family gathering where everyone had a bit too much, the subject wasn't discussed again at all.

My mother has always been convinced that despite the fact that the woman had always been silent, this was some sort of banshee that had attached itself to my grandfather through his dad. His father was an Irish immigrant, or some Native American spirit that had come from his mother. She had been born on a reservation and ran away when she was a teen that she was less familiar with. Either way, after my grandfather passed away a few years ago, no one in the family had seen it since. I'm not sure what I personally believe about it.

I'm more on the believing in aliens than ghosts on the paranormal scale. On the one hand, I have a real image in my head of my grandfather as a no-nonsense man who didn't believe in the paranormal, outside of that I don't ever remember him ever expressing any belief or interest in it and it was always clear that the subject made him extremely uncomfortable. Perhaps it was just some weird way of coping with the deaths of those close to him or maybe he really was seeing something. Either way I just hope I never see her, I think a woman in a red dress appearing and

vanishing would start to make me paranoid. Yeah, no shit, me too. Yeah. It's an, I feel like it all did was like, this is, it's tragic that your grandfather lost his whole, you know, all the siblings in the way that he did. It's crazy.

In my mind, it's just a film that plays out over the course of this man's entire life, where he only sees her every couple decades or so. And it's this weird relationship. He maybe learns a little bit more about her every time. And just at the end of his life, he learns that she's somebody he knows or whatever. She's a metaphor for something. And then he goes in peace on the rocking chair on his front porch.

That's... Yeah. I'm trying to see if there's any sort of like death and woman in red, like representation of death. And really like the Banshee is really the one like according to Wikipedia, right? Gaylec lore involves a female spirit known as Banshee, uh, who heralds the death of a person by shrieking or keening. Uh, the Banshee is often described as wearing red or green, usually with long, disheveled hair. She can appear in a variety of forms, typically that of an ugly, frightful hag,

but in some stories she chooses to appear young and beautiful. Some tales recount that the creature was actually a ghost, often of a specific murdered woman or a mother who died in childbirth. And when several banshees appeared at once, it was said to indicate the death of someone great or holy. In Ireland and parts of Scotland, a traditional part of mourning is the Keening woman who wails a lament in Irish, which I'm not going to try and pronounce because I know that I just don't know how to pronounce it. In Scottish folklore, there was a belief that a black, dark green or white dog known as Sue Sith. See, Sue See, I don't know how to pronounce it. I'm so sorry. Took dying souls to the afterlife. Comparable figures exist in Irish and well stories. So it's something like that, right? It's like it's it's it's some it's some kind of Herald, which is kind of a Yeah, it's weird. interesting kind of spin on the average ghost tale. I wish God I just wish Google AI wasn't jammed into Google search because all it

tells me is like in various folklore cultural context, a lady in red or a woman wearing wearing red is often associated with death, particularly violent or tragic like a jilted lover like like like yeah, like a seductress. I'm looking for specific references on that. I don't see any. Yeah. You know, it's funny. I don't really know what that traces back to, but I know it innately as like a

literary image. Yeah. That's still wild because I don't know. That's like, I don't know. It's just like film noir or something like that. I don't know. And yelling like, well, who are you or whatever. And it just ignoring you and being like, no, no, bye.

It's interesting that it didn't scream though. Right. Yeah. Cause that's right. Cause in the Wiki was saying that the, uh, they typically have a whale, hence banshees are known for wailing and shrieking. If I was like writing, if I was like writing a, um, short story, a ghost story, but a Banshee, right? The twist would be that if it's from your own family or something like that, it doesn't scream at you. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

If the, if the Banshee is like a specific ghost, yeah. Like maybe the Banshee is like your relative telling you that your relatives are dying. Right. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, if you take that movie, you gotta play with that idea, you know, put on the story. The lady in red, a 24. Yeah, we can ease, we can pitch that million bucks is all we would need. Uh, a farmhouse and a cast of honestly though story the lady in red a 24. Yeah, we could ease we could pitch that million bucks is all we would need A farmhouse and a cast of honestly though the lady in red. It's got to be like if it's a 24 There's got to be like a little bit more

Like there's gonna be some paranormal. There's gonna be some edge to it. It's got to be like The red lady it's got to be like it's got to be like it's got to feel a little bit more And initially she's just a woman that wears red, but the more we learn, the more we actually see the red like tripping down where it'd be tears, like, and be like, oh, maybe the double meaning. Did you ever made a movie version of La Llorona? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, fuck. Yeah. Oh, let's get, 824, just listen to it. Like, hear us out. We could do this. I've never directed anything in my life, but I am a good dungeon master, so. That's half the battle, yeah, we could do this. I've never directed anything in my life, but I am a good dungeon master. So that's that's half the battle, man. I think. Yeah. Thank you all so much for the stories. This is delightful. We mind the discord well this

time around. It was it was nice to do. It's nice to see. Come leave us one. Come leave us one if you like this. I really like reading listener stories and I would do it more if there was huge demand for it. Oh yeah, absolutely. Because it really does it like, I don't know, like, Like a palate cleanser. It's nice. As the, as the official Alex of the show, right? Like, How dare you.

There's something really in line with what I enjoy about this type of subject matter, hearing other people tell me their stories. Because then it doesn't, we're like really not trying to say, oh, this is true. Or this is false. Really? Right? Right. Obviously, Jesse is gonna say it's false. And you're gonna say it's true. But that's not, it's neither here nor there. It's just like cultural exchange. It's really fun. It's really exciting. And we talked about a story where is your grandpa being haunted was was he

being haunted by a banshee, which is just badass. Awesome. I love that story. Incredible. If you guys, yeah, if you have a leave of stories, but also if you've ever, just out of pure curiosity, like if you've ever had the misfortune of having a near death experience, I would love to read more like firsthand accounts on that. I don't know how many of our listeners

have ever come close to one. That's a great, yeah, that's a great- A few in our Discord have had them, so I would love to hear details. What are the other ones? What are the, what are the other things we don't get a lot of stories about? I would love like, I don't need another like thing in the sky story for a while, unless it's like extremely remarkable.

Right? Yeah. I can get enough of those just from Mathis. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, like we're always talking about things in the sky. I love, I would love a vampire story. I would love like a genuine vampire story. I would love like a genuine vampire story. I would love a genuine werewolf story.

You got to like a genuine like, I don't know, fucking like skinwalker story or something. Yeah, yeah. I want I want something a little bit out of the box. I would love I would love a men in black story from like a listener, like a real the one I've been one constantly that I would say constantly in his relative, but a lot is the not dear story that sticks with people still to this day to talk about how like that fucked up people hearing that story fucked him up. Yeah. And I also do want to hear more. If you are listening, and I'm not saying you should take psychedelics, but if you, I'm not, but if you have, yeah, if you have, especially if something crazy

has happened, I would love for there to be enough accounts that we can like see similarities between the trips. That would be really neat for me. I've yet to have a trip myself where I actually see anything like truly bizarre other than like the Alice in Wonderland effect of things looking not the right size. You just gave me actually a great idea. I've been working on, we're doing like kind of a fun, me and math is kind of like collabing on a big fun, not like corner fest, but like a big situation in a couple of months. That's going to be fun. Yeah. And, uh, I was,

I needed a couple more ideas for a couple of the weeks involved and I think I just got a great one. So, yeah. Um, just get hype. The, the year we're, we're like, phase one is done. I know you guys have noticed that we're kind of like, solidifying cleaning house. Yeah, yeah, like, get ready, we're gonna announce some new merch, like really soon. Yeah, we got the we got the final, like marketing stuff today. So yeah, so like, we might be already announced by

the time this episode comes out. It might be live. It actually actually might be live. Yeah. Um, but at the very least look next week, cause next week's episodes is going to be kind of a fun one that I've been working on a little bit. And, uh, yeah, I don't know. It's just, it's a shout out to like the support on the new series have been amazing. Like the, the stuff for heaven's gate, uh, like, uh, the Jesse's like kind of one off story, Alex's last little series. I've, The numbers have been like, thank you guys for listening. Like they're just better than they on average have been. Not that we do badly at all, but like they just done really well.

So thank you for just being there and listening. It really feels like the extra work that we're putting into the episodes is like being rewarded. We've played, like these are all not listening here babbling behind the scene stuff, but like, yeah, the yeah heavens gate for instance and the other stuff have been like Months of like prep as a post like maybe a month of prep, you know It's like a lot more gears going in the background to make these things bigger Bigger than they are but I ideally still just as enjoyable

So I also wanted to bring one last piece of fan news for you guys before we leave because I thought this was kind of Fun. It's the vagina island post. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, that was from a few days ago. Um, yeah, do we get I forgot we got yeah, we had an update on the vagina island Okay. Yeah, so this is this this is a post that's called. I'm the guy that visited vagina island Which is crazy. So I'm just gonna read this is from six days ago as of this reading which was the 24th I'm the guy that visited vaginaagina Island's Rousedower 03. So I found this podcast episode four years ago, which was like 11 years after the Vagina Island experience. That's awesome.

I just listened to it again and spent the whole time laughing out loud. Teenagers do dumb shit. Still no real answers other than running into a park ranger at the state park at a party years ago who claimed to have found it and had it removed I showed him pictures to prove that it was there long before May the vagina island always be the most beautiful mystery It's awesome, dude that so we brought the vagina island guy into the into the story Yeah, it's I can't believe he found the show. That's fucking cool. So I love that

And also I just wanted to bring up this next bit Lucas 95 asked them legend Do you still carry around a wetsuit because it's humorous and rouse Dower said I wish the real story is worse I had it because my friend worked at Goodwill and Snatched a phone and we were planning on wearing them to a dodgeball tournament because it was humorous You sound like a real human, a human individual, extraordinarily human individual. Yeah. So thank you, Rouse Dower for coming out of the woodwork and showing me the

reach of this fantastic show that one now. Now vagina Island has come back to us and the license plate guy has come back to us. Yeah, that's right. And I feel like maybe another one has done. I'm just, we're just forgetting, but those two were the ones that really felt, uh, those are like almost, almost, almost, almost Bean Boy level. Like me. Or like the guy turning into math, like podcast stars.

Yeah, yeah, Math Man will always be around. Bean Boy, I'm surprised, like, was such a side little character that we created that really took on a life of its own. I love that Bean Boy. You know, I'm just surprised, surprised like how many people like made him. I know. Yeah. I wouldn't bean boy like fan stuff. Anyway, anyway, just for listening. We're out of here. Uh, thank you for being our fans.

We love you very much. Yeah. We wouldn't be here without you because of you. We get to do this and I thank you very much. Uh, we'll be back next week for the another episode here with, uh, I don't, Jesse will be back by then? If he's not, I mean, he'll still be here either way. No, next week's episode is an Alex episode. Yeah, we're back to the schedule. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay, cool. All right, hey, thank you guys so much. We appreciate your feedback, love ya. Goodbye. Hi. Hello everybody, welcome back to the Jaluma Naughty Podcast. As always, I'm one of your hosts Mike Marhen joined by the I don't know who they are. There's two!

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And it's been going through the list ever since. I'm trying to dig deep. Which one of you is Dick Powell? Me? Your name's Jesse Cox! I want your lunatic. I want my my maker. I want your lunatic.

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I want my my maker. I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic. I want your love, baby I want my money, baby I want your love, baby I want your love, baby I want your love, baby I want your love, baby I want your illuminate I want to illuminate I'm your host Mike Martin, joined by Alex and Jesse. Like a shooting star across the sky that's actually a UFO. Bye!