Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 303: The BAASS Leak

Episode Date: June 15, 2025

This week Mike, Jesse and Alex dive headfirst into the mysterious BAASS document leak! BAASS Documents: https://www.unredacted.info/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/Tic_Tac_Full_Report.pdf MERCH - http://www.theyetee.com/collections/chilluminati Thank you to - GhostBed: http://www.ghostbed.com/chill Factor: http://www.factor.com/chill50free All you lovely people at Patreon! HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Show art by - https://twitter.com/JetpackBraggin http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro

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just a quick heads up that I had a kind of very sudden loss in the family the past couple of weeks. So I am not able to record this episode. So we are not doing a proper episode this week, but what we're giving you is not a mini-sode compilation, but last week's mini-sode. And the reason we want to do that is because it's pretty prevalent in the timeframe it's being released.

It's very much of the now moment when it comes to like document leaks. Jesse was very interested. Obviously I was very interested in Alex was very interested and it's a pretty big chunky mini-sode so, uh, yeah, just for this week, uh, you know, we apologize and, uh, have one of the more or should say the newest minisode and we'll be back next week with your regularly scheduled programming thank you guys so much for your understanding and your patience appreciate you love you and we'll see you next time Hello, my little children, and I'll see you later.

Hi, guys. Welcome to the bonus show. Hello, my little children. I'll see you when I go. Hi, guys. Three. Welcome to this. Welcome to the bonus show. 332. Yeah. 332. How you doing?

Hello. How are you doing? Now, how are you doing, Jesse? You said you're so excited for this. I'm so curious what you got. I'm excited. This story popped up on an actual news site with actual news. And it wasn't like me looking for weird stuff on the internet.

This is, this is a real thing that happened and I cannot believe it's real. Um, Hey guys, for those of you out there who don't know chem trails, their conspiracy theory where people confuse condensation trails left by high flying aircraft for chemical or biological agents. Sprayed for nefarious purposes, I guess, and are secret to the public. People who believe in chemtrails will tell you that like contrails, the condensation trails, they dissipate quickly. So like these are definitely real things. And if you're wondering why anyone would do this, I guess the

government or deep state or whatever is trying to either manage the sun, do weather modification, population control. Uh, some people said it's like warfare on the public or even psychological manipulation. Um, how that would work. If you understand science and aerodynamics and literally the concept of wind, I don't know, but, uh, I will say there's no real evidence of this happening and any evidence ever provided is total BS, like absolutely complete. The only problem is, is now that cloud seating to make stuff rain or, uh, what about the

lasers like the lasers that can create storms all across America, right? Right. Jewish based lasers. I'm aware. Um, so the thing that what's, what's super interesting in this is, this is a real ass thing. Um, the Louisiana state house of Representatives cleared the way for the Senate with a chem trail bill. That's right. They passed a bill to ban chem trails. Now, how they would even do that. What are they actually? What is it actually propose you do? Well, the existence of chem trails, as I just said, is totally something that there's no like, distance of chemtrails, as I just said, is totally something that there's no, like, how would you even regulate the deep state in this scenario, right? Well, lawmakers, along with Robert F. Kennedy Jr. have taken this bill, which directs the Louisiana State Department

of Environmental Quality to record reported chemtrail sightings and pass complaints on to the Louisiana Air National Guard who I guess would shoot down the, I don't know, lawmakers removed penalties for violations opting instead for further investigation and documentation because again you can't do anything about it. What the hell? Okay. Mark Shanahan who teaches American politics at the University of Surrey in the UK, said this is total nonsense. And he said the following, the president sets the tone. And so far, Donald Trump has encouraged and enabled a circus of craziness. While US government is more about ratings and effectiveness, this disconnect from reality is set to continue. And then

Kimberly Landrieu-Cote, state representative from Louisiana said, this bill is to prevent any chemicals above us in the air, specifically to modify the weather. And then basically people are like, no, this is really important. And then a tweet about it from Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said, we are going to stop this crime. Again, this is the thing that is not happening Actually so embarrassing to like Jump on the entry of this and this guy keeps cucking himself over and over and over again RFK Like every time the man what he's in his fucking bill and all that he comes up to a microphone

He's like I chopped the head off a bear. You're like what the fuck? What are you talking about? He's like there's a worm in my brain and it died. You're like no Like the reason the reason why you know, it's all total bullshit The entire thing happening with the government right now is because everyone's a criminal yet. No arrests are being made Yeah, everyone is out there like these guys. They're they're doing. Where's the arrests? When are you going to start arresting the people like where's the deep state arrest? This is not happening. I know. Look away. It's not real. It's crazy. Yeah. The

people that are taking out the deep state are signing us up for Palantir. The **** like. Yeah. Yes. Absolutely. **** crazy. Yeah. What? I can't wait for Sauron to see what's up. Can't wait. Can't wait for Sauron to see what's up. Can't wait for the Gestapo to just come take me away. Like, it's going to happen. I've got a, I've got a tweet out there that I've left as like my last tweet of calling Elon a Nazi by directly tagging him.

I just, I just cannot stress this enough. It's not even about the chemtrails. It's about how embarrassing they made laws that do nothing. Like it's just a waste of every taxpayer's money to have these people in office and it's a waste of everyone's time and it makes you so upset. It's like, what are we doing? You can do so Louisiana of all places needs real change. Yeah. It's one of the many that need it. I just, I can't believe that this is well, you gotta write your

own trails. Yo, someone called us. I don't know what episode it was. Uh I got the comment the other night. Someone called us a bunch of soy boys. I thought that insult was gone. So, we all know that's still here. What good for what? Uh

we I don't I don't even know what episode is 200 and something because we brought politics up at some point because we're like, oh, whatever. That's fine. I don't care. what episode it was. 200 and something. We brought politics up at some point. Cause we're like, oh, whatever. That's fine. I don't care. I wear it as I've never been called a soy boy before.

It's my first time. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Guy who was, who, uh, lost his entire company and what's his face? Uh, you know, yeah, the prison planet guy. What the hell is that guy?

I've got Alex Jones. Oh my god Yeah, I was literally on one of his shows. He's like he's ruining them Masculinity hell. Yes. I'm proud of that dude. He's turning into like Leonardo DiCaprio from Django and chained at this point. Have you seen his ass? he looks like he has a little one-shot pistol inside of his like Where is your jacket fucking ozempic? Yeah, nothing wrong with that, but let's not pretend that's not like if they wouldn't be so crazy has a little one shot pistol inside of his like, fucking ozempic. Yeah. Nothing wrong with that, but let's not pretend that's not like, if they wouldn't be so crazy, I would not cut like,

I give the fuck go back X number of years. I did not care nearly enough about calling people out on their bullshit, but that's who I am. If you're stupid as hell, I'm going to be like, yo, you stupid as hell. There's no point in not doing it anymore. Literally no one above you seems to care care so you might as well fucking unleash Yeah Like if you wanna like be like you suck cuz I disagree with you. That's fine. I'm on the internet I don't care dude. Come at me, bro

Let's talk about something less infuriating Alex. You want to take it before I dive into my yeah So talking about I I wanted I knew what you were going to talk about, so I went like diving for like my own little like UFO story and I found one on High Strangeness. It's actually a reprint from an article from FSR, which is like a UFO magazine, but it's actually from a Colombian magazine called VEYA from like 76. So I think the English version is from like 77. No, actually, it's actually from the same year 76. No, well, the title says 77. But inside the magazine, it says 76. So who knows? But it's a article that

like, when I read it, there's something about these really bizarre details of this UFO encounter that I'm about to read you that just that he caught my attention. I don't think I've talked about him on the show before, but it reminds me of like a post I read a long time ago. So here we go. The UFO is described as a luminous egg shape. This happened near El Banco Magdalena, Colombia, December 21 1976. Liberato Anibal

Quintero, a cow man was roused from sleep by a thunderstorm. He felt a compulsion to go out of the house and to walk towards the cowshed some distance away. Just before he reached them, he saw a vivid beam of light which lit up the sky. As the light approached, he threw himself to the ground and crawled into some bushes. He saw that a big brilliantly lumin egg-shaped object was slowly descending, lighting up the whole area and producing an unbearable heat. It landed near the cowsheds, and a small ladder was extended to the ground.

Kintaro wanted to walk away, but he was unable to. A number of small figures, less than five feet tall, descended the ladder, carrying lights in their hands. They were white-skinned, with flat faces, very high cheekbones descended the ladder, carrying lights in their hands. They were white-skinned, with flat faces, very high cheekbones, thick eyebrows, and round, protruding eyes. Three of them were women with long hair. These little people spotted Kintero and caught him, though he knocked four or six of them

down. They seized him by the spine, and he lost consciousness. When he recovered his senses he found himself naked, inside a room with extraordinary lights, racked with pain. There was a puncture mark on his right arm, and he thought they had taken blood from him. Beside him were three of the women massaging his back and apparently trying to relieve his pain. They too were naked. He noticed that they had no

navels. His advances were cordially received, and he was soon having intercourse with one of them. This woman, who was extremely hairy and very ardent, uttered, barks like a dog, which were answered by barks from outside the room. The witness was exhausted after this, but the other two women gave him a strange yellowish stuff to drink, which completely restored his vigor. He proceeded to have intercourse with them. He proceeded to have intercourse with them also. The whole affair with the three of them must have lasted at least three hours. He felt the prick of an injection again, this time in his back, and lost consciousness. When he awoke, he was lying on the grass near the cowsheds, and dawn was just breaking.

He staggered home and told his wife and subsequently his workmates what had happened to him. His friends searched the spot, finding marks left on the ground by the object. Subsequently, Quintero suffered from excruciating headaches. His employer described Quintero as totally trustworthy. And then they have a comment from his wife who said, I'm not jealous, but after all, who would like to do what my husband was forced to do? I don't know why those bitches should have picked up on my husband, who up until now had never been unfaithful, though he's fond enough of the women. On the night when it happened, I had noticed he was already acting very strangely." And then the doctor did a checkup on him and he said,

"'Nothing in the man's story surprises me in the least. I myself have read a whole lot of descriptions lately, given by perfectly serious folk. One of them was an Argentinian doctor regarding the presence of aliens amongst us, and I have read about many further cases in the newspapers. So that's what the doctor said. Anyway, that's the end of that story. Actually, hold on to that thought because we're about to jump into something that is both weird and fascinating.

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between those aliens and the fucking bell witch. It's like so fucking weird, yeah. So these documents, the first pages, 10 pages of the documents were leaked like a month or so ago. And Steven Greer, Green Street, Green Street, not Greer, who runs Black Vault, he's the FOIA guy, we talk about him all the time. He basically said, well, I cannot confirm

these are the same. He did have a FOIAed released version of that page that wasn't in color, but in black and white. And he said through like the scanning lines, only certain scanners can look like that. And that he was able to, like at the very least look like it was using the same scanner. So whoever was releasing this is likely had the full thing. Um, some time has passed and the guy came back and cause he basically was like, if they don't start saying the truth,

I'm just going to start dropping names and dropping documents. True to his word. He came back literally three days ago after about a month or so and didn't drop just the 10 page. Somebody else came by rather. It didn't just drop the 10 pages, but dropped the entire fucking, uh, 2009. It's huge document. It's 140 some odd pages. That's the one I went through. And then they also dropped the 10 month update one, which was over 500 pages, which I haven't even tried to crack into yet.

We're just going to talk about this because basically what it sets up and what it says is basically I is what I think is truly going on. They were able to also confirm the military contracts referenced within the report. Do you have military contracts that can be dug up publicly through the military's website? They were able to cross reference them and they and they mentioned a bunch of military names. This is like this is crazy. This is crazy. What this report is if you remember when we talked about the AAR.

Oh, and I sounded like a psycho because of him. Like he didn't have title 50 clearance and he didn't look at the Nimitz case. That might be because this report is specifically about the Nimitz case exclusively for about a year and a half to two years. They did heavy, heavy investigating into the Nimitz case. So we're going to go through it briefly and just kind of tell you what's in this document as an outline. It is impossible to go through it all here. I'm going to send you boys the PDF. If you want to grab it, you can grab it. It's 140 some pages.

Yep. That's the first. That's the like, yeah, there's it's all total. It's like 700 pages. It's all total like 700 pages. There's so much fucking math in there. I can't even pretend to understand. I was trying to look at this.

It's just it's this is fake, which doesn't feel like it is. It's very it's the best fake I've ever seen. This would be crazy to say like out of all the things that I've seen, I'm going to say like, I'm going to say like, I was trying to look at this. It's just it's this is fake, which it doesn't feel like it is. It's very it's the best fake I've ever seen. This would be crazy to say like out of all the things that you've bombarded us with. This is the one where I was like, oh, this is like a great American novel of hoaxes. If this is one of the names, we've heard pop up a time and again. So the BAA SS report, the one we're going to be

talking about, just the, there's 140 page document when we'll do a full longer episode on the 500 page one eventually, stands for the Bijelo Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. This is a frontline private contractor funded by a U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, the DIA contract, under AAWSAP, which was the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System and Applications Program, which is where Luella Zondo supposedly worked. This BAASS was headed by Robert Bisholo, who previously ran the National Institute of Discovery Science and built this whole thing is built to investigate the UAP phenomena period from aerospace to biological to national security standpoint.

This document covers 2008 to 2010. What we learn is the following one. The first section is all about the building of this shit. This is where the black budget defense contractor comes in. What we learn is they built offices that had electronic locks, soundproofing and no public listing. They hired former military intelligence, FBI agents, and physicists. They built a 5,000 square foot underground vault. It's like hellboy shit. It's like hellboy shit. Yeah. What they say in the report is for recovered hardware and biological samples. And all key staff had top secret slash SCI clearances, including Robert Fijolo,

Colm Keller, how put off Eric Davis and fucking Jacques Valet. We've made so much sense now with the things he's been saying over the past few years. This is like the core structure of this thing. That's the beginning of this report. They then go on to pay the BASSS pays Mufon from Mufon. They buy real time case reports. They're allowed read-only access to the Mufon internal case management system, and they share witness contact data and physical evidence with each other with Mufon,

which is an insane thing to read. And the BAASS then also launched its own, what they called, quote unquote, rapid deployment teams, basically like their own UAP Navy SEALs that responded to high strangeness cases within hours of them being reported. This is, they're building a full spectrum surveillance and response system specifically for UAPs.

Then we go into the later in section two, where we're looking at the research and science aspects. They have full CFD, which is computational fluid dynamics and EM modeling for the Tic-Tac craft from the Nimitz report, where they have footage of all the things. Now, we learn in this section that they go through extreme lengths of simulation to try and reverse engineer how this thing moves. We're talking inertial suppression, gravity based propulsion, hypersonic maneuvering

with no heat or shockwave. They're trying to figure out how to do this. And at the end, everything that they studied, they cannot reproduce it without leaving Newtonian physics laws behind. They leave a shockwave. It disturbs the water, which is the thing they're trying to replicate that the Tic Tac did, where it went into the water without leaving any ripples.

It had no heat signature. They're trying to mimic it, and they could create the simulations of this thing doing what they wanted it to do, but again, it still left heat signatures, and it would require a pilot inside to survive seventy five G's because it goes from zero to a hundred thousand miles an hour instantly according to the report. What the **** does that even mean?

I just like it's so crazy. It's it's I just want to go look on Reddit really quick to see like is there any buzz? No, dude none. No this is and it's so crazy because this is a report with like real ash stuff in it um that mathematically you're like oh my what are we doing? I mean I have no idea if the math checks out. There's zero hype online about it but like this is actually has me being like, oh boy. So it later goes on to start referencing things like project Northern tier, which is a subset of BASS, which its full purpose is reconstructing

and studying the nuclear missile base incursions from the UAP, including Malmstrom and Minow. They're trying to figure out how that happened. UAPs hovering over silos, disabling warheads and tracked by radar and visual contact. And they're interviewing retired USAF officers regarding targeting data analysis and pattern mapping. Like this is what they're actively doing. All these things we say this paperwork and reports of these things over nuclear silos. That's what they're fucking

studying. Then they bring up project coloris, which is a Brazil thing, which is from 1977. We may have mentioned it in the most violent UAP abductions. They specifically are digging up old studies and old reports and reopening this case of a village out in Colares Brazil where civilians were having nightly encounters with these glowing orbs that would hit them directly with beams in what they deemed intelligent areas Documented burns anemia puncture wounds a few fatalities were suspected in the Brazilian military Collected medical records including from dr. Willeid Corvalo there after all this stuff, they getting it, they're scooping it up and they're putting it in their system of information.

Crazy dude. They then go out to talk about in this document, project oral history campus and blue book. Basically they're getting interviews with what they call old timers about project blue book, Wright Patterson, air Air Force Base in collecting that knowledge. They're reconstructing of an undigitized or unofficial US government UAP data that has been sitting in the archives forever. They're trying to grab what they call orphaned documents,

UAP documents that may just be sitting out there in other intelligence agencies long forgotten and not even known that are there. And they're framing Kolaris, Rendlesham, Cash, Lundrum, which is another one we'll talk about as real sisters to what modern UAP behavior that they're seeing today. Rendlesham. Yeah. Rendlesham is crazy.

Isn't that synchronicity is a weird synchronicity. Just covered what's crazy. The only thing there's like a lot of things linking here and part of me like there's a red flag popping up. That's like it's almost too clean in some places and that's worrying but also like it could be legit. You know what I mean? Like this is either the greatest disinformation campaign ever waged ever or it actually is a

really tiny government report about alien. Yeah, it's like it has reference government contracts that we were able to confirm with the FOIA documents that do exist to say, well, there is that there is a page, a cover page that says this stuff. And if this is actually true, it's from 08 to 2010. Think about how long ago that was 15 years ago that this was being studied quietly. And what it seems like from this is they're trying to create

a center place where all intelligence can be collected instead of it being scattered amongst FBI, CIA, private contractors trying to bring it all together. But let's continue with the rest of what's in this. We're not going to go into much detail. They all then they all go on to that. They didn't just study physics later on in the report. They talk about how they're researching specifically how UAPs are interacting

with consciousness of an individual interacting with it, the emotional state of the individual when they're interacting with it and the physical repercussions that happen to the individual when they encounter it. So they built field kits that included Geiger counters, X-ray fluorescent scanners, EMF RF detectors, and electron paramagnetic resonance dosimetry, which is used to test radiation via fingernail clippings specifically. Let's be very clear, just for the record on this.

It's not saying this is happening. It's saying they're testing to see what's happening. This is like a report. Like get it twisted. Yeah. Yeah, they track biological symptoms and witnesses headaches, burns, fatigues, hallucinations, trauma, and they built a standardized form for tagging it tagging it as physical evidence, psychological

reactions, paranormal features. Then they introduced the idea of their database, which is a six layer database called the Capella database. This is like the Pentagon's private UAP database of stuff. And it was Eric Davis and Jacques Vallee that came up with the model, calling it the six layer model, categorizing and tagging individual instances as one of the six following. Physical, which means there's radar or visual evidence of it. Antiphysical, disappearance, missing time,

when somebody like loses three hours or what have you. Physiological, burns, nausea, actual physical symptoms on the individual. Psychological, trauma, burns, nausea, actual physical symptoms on the individual, psychological, trauma, dreams, nightmares afterward. Then it goes to psychic, telepathic communication, premonitions, weird visions, and then finally cultural, mythic, religion, media in the area. These are all cross-indexed events across the world. They're gathering

world data and building a Capella database that is layered on these six things. That is crazy. Yeah, they weren't like building a craft database. Like that's important to note. This is not like a database of craft like situations. It's a map of how these things seem to affect human perception and interaction on every level from physical to cultural. Then there's the global ops that they talk about specifically within South America where they built foreign outreach infrastructure, a military attache is filled field investigators

fluent in Portuguese and Spanish and gained quiet access to unreleased South American military archives almost as if they're trying to get the stuff before they realize what they have in their own possession. America is basically just trying to grab it before they realize it's important. And that's very much how they talk about it. Then you go on to the talk about they stay outright, outright in the report, they say,

UAPs are real advanced aerospace objects that demonstrate the following inertial suppression, transmedium capabilities, sensor evasion, sensor evasion, and seeming cognitive slash perceptual interference. It's that like we're not saying it's aliens, but it's definitely

not us and we don't know how the fun is doing that shit. Meaning unidentified aerial phenomena are real. That's all they're saying. All three of us, even though I'm over here. Meaning unidentified aerial phenomena are real. That's all they're saying. All three of us, even though I'm over here, Johnny skeptic can agree there's 100% something happening. Yeah, that they're trying to figure out. Yeah. And they're trying to figure out what it is. Cause and that's, I think the worrying thing is something happening and they're like, we obviously

don't know what it is. And that's like, how do you not your whole job is to know what stuff is? Yeah. They go on to say that it seems us sensor capabilities and weapon platforms are more or less obsolete against these things, whatever they are. They say there was a full computational modeling of the 2004 Nimitz encounter velocity acceleration and the central fluid dynamics analysis showed the following instantaneous movement at up to 7,000 G's with no sonic boom No heat or visual propulsion signatures in radar evasion without jamming. I can't wait to figure out what the fuck They conclude that the tic-tac defies known Newtonian physics saying literal quote

Possibly demonstrated the ability to cloak or become invisible to the human eye the the They then go on to model the fact that it's tried to simulate how a UAP enters the ocean at that speed without creating any displacement sound or splash. But they came to the conclusion that everything they did was unable to create any of the following. Like at the same time, you couldn't like go into the water without leaving a trace while going at speed. That would leave a sonic boom. Like they could make it matter what going you're displacing water and it makes that bubble goes unless you're not unless you're not did discover is that right. They tested what's called dielectric coatings to affect radar simulations and they covered a sample of their own with a one meter shell of this die dielectric coating. And they showed that it actually reduces that particular target's sensibility from radar by orders of magnitude. It doesn't make it completely invisible, but it means you have to be very close

to see it if you just cover it in a one meter shell of whatever dielectric coating is. Interesting. They did discover that they could reproduce that in some way with this dialectic code die electric die electric die electric. Oh, it's here. I'll show you guys They'll don't count copy it real quick. It's this I like what page are you on? We're like towards the end. We're like at 101 ish Later on uh Hang on. Let's do this last because because I'm reading the outline I wrote out.

I'm not actually aware from the actual report report. Well, I'll probably look through this anyway. It's all good. You definitely you absolutely should. A lot of it. A lot. A lot of the report is math. I couldn't. It was late when you sent it and I was like, all right. Yeah, but I'm I need to like give it a give it a give it a once over. Dialectic coding, man man Yeah, so they say go on to say that they also built in a a and an Ancest Multiphysics simulations model they were basically trying to simulate the physical effects a UAP has on a person Including trying to like mimic radiation dose EM field exposure thermal injury and nervous system disruption They were basically, it seems like they were preparing for having more encounters with whatever this thing is. And if they could

prepare for what kind of effects that they were expected to have, they can maybe prevent it from happening. Yeah. And I mean, that's like, so that's the, the does a short version of what's in here. There's a ton of mathematical models, simulation, like grid things, like mesh models. I don't really understand. I did throw it on blue sky and on our discord, but nobody's like looked at it as far as I can tell. Ooh, baby. Ooh, baby. Summer is here. That is how I sound when the summer is here. More sun, more light, more time to do all the things

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they can't model it that alone speaks volumes for whatever this thing is. But they also have this weird system of layered, tagging it as psychic and cultural along with the physical elements that they're looking at trying to scoop data from other countries as quickly as they can. And just trying to in the nuclear based shutdowns aspect of it is like fascinating. That's like, you know what?

I realized about this. Yeah. Like the reaction is the same reaction as when the government releases a 500 page bill or he reads it. It's too big and so nobody takes the time to read it because it's too big. Really what this drop is huge. And what the cover page says like B A A S S report 08 with like a plane on it. It doesn't look anything exciting like it doesn, it looks like boring as fuck. And yeah, that's what I always say when I like do the research and the, and like I, I sound crazy when I talk

about UAP, cause I'm following paper trails that require people to spend more time that I would ever ask anybody if this wasn't my job to fucking go find and go look. I mean, it does have more info, right? But it does, it does really just so far, according to you, and your outline does seem to just kind of accomplish the same thing that this information did before, except now, which is kind of like, it's verified. Yeah, it's verified. So it's not, it's not really that there's, it's not that there's like a treasure's trove of info

that breaks everything wide open. and suddenly we can see what these are. It's just really that it's another, it's like Grush where it's just like, yes. And then we're like mice in a cage where people are walking around outside because we just got to get on with their business now because there's, there's like a big, there's a, there's a disconnect between what's going on out there and what's going on in here. And so it's so absurd because it would then it also then you have to sit with it. It's like, well, okay, what does this mean then? Right. That's like, that could be existential. It could be ontological shock.

Right. I spent years going through this. I'm over that part of it. Like I fully believe there's something going on so much so that they're willing to pour millions of dollars. And now who knows over the past 15 years to try and back engineer this case that was supposedly nothing, you know, that was supposedly meaningless and all this is like, but you don't bring on Eric Davis Jacques Ville, visual, who's a billionaire in his own right. If you're not planning on actually trying to figure this out, if it

didn't happen, if it wasn't real, why would you spend millions of dollars doing this? And there there's in the in the 500 page report There's actual and I really recommend you read through it. I'm not done with it, but they actually are there's interviews With their ground team. They are interviews where they get reports of a UAP Somebody seeing it and they send their ground team out. They have the whole thing documented in reports, the interview with the individual. They're sending a team out, the BASS team to actively investigate these things on the ground like a fucking X-Files men in black situation where you make a report and these not these government people that no other aspect of the government gives a fuck about show up and ask you questions, report it and then disappear after a couple of days and never talk to you again.

Because that's what it is. Yes. They're there for about 24 to 48, and then disappear after a couple days and never talk to you again. Because that's what it is. They're there for about 24 to 48 hours, and then they leave. And then they give their opportunity. It feels like they just kind of figure out how it's gonna go, and then that's it. And they label these things now as well in the reports from CE1 to CE5, Close Encounters Scale of one to five.

That's why Valet's there. Which also make, because Valet's there, but also they got all the Blue Book data, which is exactly what Spielberg had access to when he was making close encounters of the third kind. He was working with Heineck when he was I think we talked about this before, but like he had access to all that. So, of course, they're going to use Heineck's graph and all that stuff and bring it in and adapt it to their own database. that stuff and bring it in and adapt it to their own database. And it looks like they're trying to become the center point where anybody either private or governmental comes to with

their information and they keep it in this Capella database. It's fucking crazy. And I saying it out loud. I sat I realize how insane it sounds. What else am I left to do? There's no there's no reason to worry about that though. You know what I mean? Exactly.

Genuinely, it's just facts on a paper that seem to be real and you don't have to like think about the implications. Absolutely not. Like that's what I think because that's a fun thought experiment and like I enjoy that thing. But like we there at least in 2010, it's clear they really, they, they know they exist, but they can't figure out what they are. Hmm.

Uh, really quickly, uh, for dielectric coatings, um, according to Parker.com, uh, which is, uh, a company that, um, I guess Parker is responsible for various clean technologies. And they have all sorts of products you can buy and whatever there. But for their electric battery for cars and whatnot, they literally have a whole thing of like, what is dielectric coating? Which is great for us. Basically, dielectric coating is a thin layer of material that's applied to a surface of an object to improve its electrical insulation properties.

When dielectric coating materials are applied to a surface, they create a barrier that prevents electrical charges from passing through or across a surface. Okay. And, you know, in the case of a car, it would mess up your car if that was happening a bunch. So what's, what's also crazy. If you go into that report, I don't know if you boys have seen it, they also model, they do 3D models of not only the Tic Tac UAP, but a metallic sphere UAP to scale as though like in like an environment. And I think they even do a disc one, they like model the things.

So it's more and they show in the report report to they show the different shapes of UFOs. The bell shape is in their sphere. So they're covering all like it's everything that info we have is the real info is the point we have had for so long. This is them studying it. Yeah, not them saying these things exist. What they're saying is the stuff that we're hearing about. What I'm saying is the stuff that we're hearing about is the same stuff that they're taking seriously. That's the thing.

Yes, they're taking it seriously, but they're not saying we completely have this information. It's real. They're saying we're taking it seriously. There is a darkness we have and they really are investigating it like we think. The one they do have the information for is the Tic Tac UAP event. the same time. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. They're creating a database. That's literally the biggest part is like they have this huge database and they have different operations investigating things like the nuclear and accursions and other shit like that, which is just again, I'm not saying obviously it's not

saying it's real, but if there wasn't something to this, why would they even do this in the first place? You know, like there has to be something to it. That's just that's all I've ever said like it to me. Maybe I'm a bit step further than you boys at this point in my life. Like I don't know if I'd think they're like what they are, but I don't think they're any other country. It's just hard to get me revved up at this point, but I, I try not to like think about

it too much because it's just completely like there's so much other bullshit for me to like pretend like I have control over before I'm starting to worry about the UAPs at this point. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly, man. I'm still not convinced it's not a human asshole. I feel like there's a lot of human assholes out there that definitely could be doing something stupid. It's Hugo Drax for sure. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff in there. That's like this human asshole has tech that I don't understand, but I'm not convinced it's not some asshole. And like referencing contracts that exist and also having pages that were

FOIA'd to confirm that at least there was that. So we would have to take the black and white FOIA, remove the scanlines, recolor it completely. Not impossible, but it's a lot of work to then do it for 140 page document and then a 500 page document to like hire experts to like have it pass muster. Yeah, have names. I'm saying like unless you have like there's a mega adobe like

I don't know how you do this. Yeah, they mentioned it's possible in the and that brings up a point. They mentioned a name that no one's heard about before that is also another part of the tic tac event that people have confirmed is a real person within the intelligence community. So like there are names in there that are real that have not come up in any way before. So there are ways to go from here. Yeah, there are names in there that are real that have not come up in any way before.

So there are ways to go from here. Yeah, there are ways to go from here. Yeah, but still crazy. We'll do a full breakdown. I think of the 500 page document and specifically that stuff later on. But yeah, it's worth a read. Please go out there. I'll link it in the Patreon. Like it's 100 at least go through the 100 plus page doctor over your time. There's also some breakdowns, even though it's not anywhere else on Reddit at all in the UFO sections, people are doing breakdowns. There's one from like two days ago where a guy went through everything. So like it's happening, but it's where it always stays

out of mainstream and out of the way. Anyway, see you guys later. Yeah, we'll be back next week. See you guys later. Bye bye. Bye.