Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 306: Legend Tripping with Crendor

Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello everybody and welcome back to the Chiluminati podcast episode 306 as always. I'm one of your hosts, Mike Martin joined today by the ever weird and mysterious Alex Fasciani and the equally as confused as I am, Jesse Cox with the man sat in the middle and the special guest guest of it all. Krendor, welcome back. Hey, thanks. Glad to be here. Welcome to the show. Welcome our guest Hey, thanks. Glad to be here. Welcome to the show.

Starting point is 00:00:46 Welcome our guest, Crendor. You know, normally I concoct some sort of long winded intro for the guests. But what is this? Your sixth time? On the show now? I just, you stop counting. Seven? If you count the live show, what do we think?

Starting point is 00:01:01 Speaking of live shows. Yeah, speaking of the live show, there's literally another live show with Crendor with tickets on sale. Literally right now, if there are even any left, are there, does anybody know? So there's still some. There are a few, but it is selling very well. So reports from the front lines say that those that, wow, just all through this great energy that you're getting right now from the show, imagine but larger than life or exactly it's a two for one life Yeah, you get the you get the Cox and Crenn door and Chaluminati all packaged you get the the double feature

Starting point is 00:01:33 That way when you're done listening the Cox and Crenn door after an hour. You're like man. I'm done listening to that I wish I'd said that's something else get the good stuff Okay, so what is this what is this I think this is your sixth time on the show if I'm if I'm something else, get the good stuff. Yeah. And then, and then, and then. All right. Well, okay. So what is this? What is this? I think this is your sixth time on the show. If I'm, if I'm probably around there, quickly look, but yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:01:50 Let's, let's, let's assume it's six, uh, whatever number we decided is, uh, in honor of you reaching that many, uh, by the official Chiluminati agency guidelines, this now graduates you from a guest to a recurring character in our lore. So that's a new thing. So in honor of that, traditionally to introduce you, we would say we knighted. Yeah, we've firm. This is his sixth official appearance. Yeah, that's what that's what I saw. The Chaluminati pod.fm actual archive search and it worked. That's right. I that's what I thought. So traditionally for the big, big six, as we call it, we would simply say a number significant to Crendor

Starting point is 00:02:32 in a way only he knows about his, uh, as his introduction. So I'm going to do that now. Ready? Okay. Six. Great. So yeah, welcome Crendor. How are you feeling?

Starting point is 00:02:45 Are you guys ready for this? Does anyone else know what just happened? No, I have no idea. I kind of know. Yeah, I think I do. Yeah. Yeah. Great. How are you guys? How are you guys? How are you guys doing?

Starting point is 00:02:57 You can't just know that he can't just say that. I did. I kind of know. No, you don't know. I kind of do. Explain what just happened. I don't have to., you don't know. I kind of do. Explain what just happened. Oh, and after you, you know, you know, David Lynch, that's a quote. All right. Check it out.

Starting point is 00:03:13 Oh, help me. Help me. Help me, Mike. I need help. In charge of today's episode, it's an Alex episode. And even for Alex, I don't know what the fuck is even happening. This is a weird one. This is going to be weird. This one, just in case you don't know what the fuck is even happening. This is a weird one. This is going to be weird. This one, just in case you don't know what exactly the topic of today's episode is, which I believe I have mostly kept you in the dark about today's episode is called Chiluminati

Starting point is 00:03:36 presents live legend tripping with Crendor. Okay. So that's what it's going to be called. Uh, so yeah, the main thing today is that instead of a normal Patreon ad, which I would do right now, to raise awareness for the video episodes that you can get there, which you can see for every single new episode at patreon.com slash stupinati pod, today's episode, which features some video dependent portions, is available for all on our YouTube channel. So you can get the link

Starting point is 00:04:06 to that in the description below. There's still going to be the normal audio version like always, you're probably listening to that right now and you're not going to miss anything that you can't normally experience with your ears on the show like when I show you a picture of something or a short clip of something. It's just today's gonna have a little bit more stuff like that in it than normal so ideally though still informative and entertaining, I recommend checking out the video version if you can. And again, the link for that is in the description below. And you can just search Chiluminati on YouTube. It pops right up. But if you want the ad free version of the video,

Starting point is 00:04:39 yeah, that's we go to Patreon for this is like buying the battle pass or Chiluminati. we go to Patreon for. This is like buying the Battle Pass for Trilumina. Battle Pass Preview. Battle Pass Preview. Battle Pass Preview. You can get different skins of us. Like one of them is Mathis, but he's like being probed by an alien. That's not a skin.

Starting point is 00:04:54 That's just a fantasy. Mine's me, but it's like I'm a rat, but I have big tits also. Yeah. If you're watching this on YouTube right now. I bought that one. It was great. It's a hot, it's a hot skin. If you're watching this on YouTube right now, I bought that one. It was great. Yeah, it's a hot, it's a hot skin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're watching this on YouTube, Hey, you did it.

Starting point is 00:05:09 You made it. You're on YouTube right now. Uh, let's get into the bullshit. Now, if I had to describe how this thing is going to go, I would say that this episode is going to be like a Chiluminati version of Wario where, um, but admittedly, uh, that's not going to be helpful to that many people. And, uh, I'm basically flying by the seat of my pants as much as you are anyway.

Starting point is 00:05:28 So basically the situation is this, the powers that be at Chiluminati HQ are worried that the typical episode formats that I've been using for their mandated programming has become stagnant and stale. They're tired of the Chiluminati guide too. They're tired of my giant- Titties. Yeah, whatever I'm doing. They're tired of my giant. Hitties.

Starting point is 00:05:45 Yeah. Whatever I'm doing. They're tired of my giant rat titties. And then instead. That's a lie. Now I know you're lying. No one is some. Some say they challenged me. Some say they threaten me. Some say, by the way, it's going to be art of big titted Alex

Starting point is 00:06:01 and rap more form on there. And so I love it. I love it when shit that I make up in like two seconds, like goes down in history for like nine years. Shout outs, shout outs, like my entire career. You're like an expert improver, bro. Expert level. And that's exactly what I'm doing today.

Starting point is 00:06:17 Can we get some fan art of the New York City pizza rat on a date with Alex's big booby rat? With the gorilla, gorilla with the pizza head shaped gorilla as a waiter. Lady in the tramping it up like, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Um, that's really, that's hot. That's hot. That'll be hot with my big tits in there. Um, that's like the end of the battle pass. That's what you get. Yeah. Get some cheese on the tits. It's a spray. It's a,

Starting point is 00:06:42 it's a spray that you can use on the level. Yeah. It's a wallpaper that's like a kind of porny, like gratuitous fan image of the rat to... I want this in Marvel rivals right now. Alex rivals. What am I talking about? I've got to do my bit. I got to make up my fake premise. Okay. Look, they said the episodes are becoming stale. They're tired of my shit. They'd said, you got to come up with something new, so bold, something so crazy that it will leave people either begging for us to do another one or begging us to cancel the show altogether. And on top of that, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. They said your episodes,

Starting point is 00:07:13 which are never ever remotely the same once I'm tired of stale. They're tired of it. They said, you're not doing enough. You got to make, the Redditors, the commenters, Chaluminati, Chaluminati, the to we, we, the agency, the company. Like, yeah, I, I. Should be known of a shop. Just keep going. No, no, no, no, no. I know this is stupid. Let's keep going.

Starting point is 00:07:40 Look, you were about to buy into the lore. Is that what was going to happen right now? Let's keep going. All right. All right, all right, all right, all right. So they said do something bold, Alex. And on top of that, they also mandated that this new episode address the fact that today's audience has trouble paying attention to the same thing for long periods of time. So Chiluminata HQ is insulting our audience.

Starting point is 00:08:00 I will stand. No, no, they're not insulting our audience. They're talking about demographic data that is real about people who are the same age as five minutes ago. Don't worry about them. They're already gone. Yeah. So once I heard Jesse's episode was going to be about the evolution of urban legends and how it's our American sort of like mythology in our culture, I asked the Shaluma naughty if I could do some legend tripping as an episode. Who's your contact there? I don't know. Is it just via text messages?

Starting point is 00:08:29 No, it's a pneumatic. Remember, it's like a pneumatic. Oh, right. The pneumatic tube. Yeah, like a pneumatic tube and it just choop. Yeah. It's not in the, it's not in view from the camera, but it's like- I don't have one of those yet and I'm kind of mad about it.

Starting point is 00:08:38 Yet. I, like you had to get it, like I think about 47 years ago, but did you guys remember that Prendor is a guest on the show? Let's through this wait hold on I'm a guest yeah he's here I know he's I'm sorry he's a recurring character you're right that's right that's my bad um all right so he's pretty sure we're doing things broke they wanted me to mix it up they wanted me to keep the pace peppy and and fast I heard about Jesse's episode I asked the Chiluminati if I could do a legend tripping episode. I just said they want to keep it fast and you repeated the same line.

Starting point is 00:09:08 Have you seen the Teletubbies? It's very good. So look, they put me in touch. They put me in touch with the very same agent, A. Whitney Brown, who did all that research into the nature of magic last time that you guys let me control the show. Isn't that crazy? Except now, instead of writing from the 80s, he's writing from now. So he's going to be voiced by Krendor and he's going to be an old man this time instead. Isn't that wild?

Starting point is 00:09:30 That's wild. This good, honestly, this gives the vibes of like a crazy politician trying to like convert the masses. Yeah, this is my Mike Lindell era. Yeah, I caught that. Yeah, yeah. This is my Mike Lindell era.

Starting point is 00:09:42 We love the Jaluma Nadi. It's unbelievable. We were in Chicago, Cranador, right? Alex was the one that said he was going to set up. That's true. Compound. Yeah, I compound. Where would you say that?

Starting point is 00:09:57 I didn't read the subtext. I was right. I was 100 percent right. OK, I want to remind you all that that was a long time ago and I was right that it should be 2013 right now. So here's what's up. So here's what's up. I have some excerpts from letters from Agent Whitney Brown, voiced by Crendor. So we're going to hear some of those and then we're going to get down to business. Okay. Here we go. Bam.

Starting point is 00:10:23 Believe me, how surprised is anyone to hear my name on the podcast? But you shouldn't be surprised I'm listening to such a niche comedy show. It was required listening for my job and I hated every minute of it. Or maybe I'm just jealous. Who gives a shit, right? Anyway, I couldn't authorize the release of those papers on Patreon like you promised because they became relevant to another investigation. Besides, nobody would have read it all anyway. Rapid-fire short-form content is an objectively worse method for sharing and spreading information which inordinately contributes to the irrelevancy and degradation of facts and art in modern

Starting point is 00:11:00 society but one which we must nevertheless master in our own way, due to the waning complexity of young and able minds. So, instead, I offer a code, directions to another secret meeting, since the last couple have gone so well, simple substitution ciphers, Caesar's Shift, do them all and find the one that makes sense. R-S-W-Q-S-O-M-R-K-F-E-V-N-Y-P-C-X-I-R-X-L-I-M-K-L-X-T-Q Anyway they got me on this thing called Chaluminati Story Group which is tasked with creating a cohesive properly supported version of all main legends to propagate through popular culture so that we may affect them with small changes over time at our own discretion. of properly supported version of all main legends to propagate through popular culture so that we may affect them with small changes over time at our own discretion.

Starting point is 00:11:49 Who else would you trust with a task like that other than people like us? Anyway, if you want to get on the groove, I've included some quotes for these two goofballs to read. Make sure they do it good. They're from Michael Kinsella's classic text on topic legend tripping online link in the show notes. Can I say that every one of those paragraphs started with anyway, that's so weird. That's so weird. Here's a, here's a quote, uh, for Jesse from Michael Kinsella. By examining both the experimental and traditional aspects of legends as performances, this book

Starting point is 00:12:28 acknowledges that supernatural legends demonstrate efforts to codify and manage anomalous perceptions and states of mind, making them, at least in part, theoretically and experimentally, accessible. Supernatural legends are complex narratives that encourage extensive reenactment in their content and inspire investigations of their veracity. Intensive reenactments, specifically motivated by the desire to test the legend's truth, are known to folklorists as legend trips, ritual performances in which participants seek to pre presence seek to

Starting point is 00:13:05 free presence yeah seek to presence that phrase before like very experiences chronicled in the legend attributed presence to it you know what I mean sure yeah look I'm not the writer I don't know he's in a different world man he's yeah no this guy's real. This basically just means that part of legends and urban legends, like what you were talking about last time, the hook legend and stuff like that, is actually then going to that lover's lane and feeling scared because you're there. And now you've created a real version of that legend that you heard about, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:13:45 A great example is the, um, I think everyone kind of knows the car where if you put flour on the bumper and you stand on the railroad track or you put your car on the road track, uh, it gets pushed across and then you look back. There's the hands fingerprints on it. Yeah. Yeah. Cause that's where like kids died in a crash or something. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:02 That famous one. Yeah. Exactly. So people would go do that. They'd go and they'd put the flower on the bumper or something. Yeah, that famous one. Trying to save you, yeah. Exactly. So people would go do that. They'd go and they'd put the flower on the bumper. Yeah, so that's basically what legend tripping is. And then here's another quote from Mathis.

Starting point is 00:14:12 Same guy. Same voice. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. Legends do not exist within a vacuum, nor are they told exclusively in face to case interactions. Many people today regularly tell legends using various combinations of image, audio, video,

Starting point is 00:14:29 and text in online environments. Legend-telling online operates slightly differently than when performed in face-to-face situations, since computer-mediated communication permits tellers to instantly present various kinds of evidence and to hypertextually connect their accounts to other legends to form vast legend complexes. And that's what Alex's little complex in the woods is gonna be called the Legend Complex. That's a great name for it. That's exactly what it would be, a legend.

Starting point is 00:14:56 And when people become immersed in these legend complexes, they may participate in an online form of legend tripping. Yep, okay. So that's what we're gonna be doing live on the show today. And I've arranged a bunch of legend trips for us to go on that are all quick, little, fun, jaunts like warrior wear. Isn't that delightful? Isn't that nice?

Starting point is 00:15:18 I'm delightful. Yeah, tickled to my very testicles. Great. This first one is called like this complex. Yeah, this first one, just this is like an icebreaker. This first one is called increasingly cursed phone numbers with Jesse Cox. Yeah, I love this. And I think that I think that you should feel safe, darling.

Starting point is 00:15:39 And I go get Robert or not Robert. The other doll I have his name again. I can't remember if you need to get a haunted doll for any reason at any time for this, would that go good with this episode? Look, whatever you need to feel the right vibes, I'm not going to stop you. I can hear you. You can go. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:55 What we're going to do right now is, you know, you're I think you're safe with dialing all these numbers. If you want to star 67 them to mask your caller ID, you can. But I don't think you need to. But just to just to and you at home can follow along if you want. But today, Jesse is going to be doing this for us. First things first, we're going to call a random guy called Murray. Okay, so get out your phone, go on to your phone. There he is.

Starting point is 00:16:22 I have my phone. Mathis has his doll. You can see the doll. Everything's showing up today on this camera episode. A little bit in the back here. That's okay. That's because he gets up and moves around. Yeah, it's probably a really long time ago. We got busy.

Starting point is 00:16:35 No, that's not the that's what like the goop, the black goop seeped out of his head. That's a spirit. A new use for the whole then. That's nasty. Hmm. Nope. All right. Moving on. Mmm. Nope. All right moving on. Nope. No, okay So this first number that you're gonna dial this first number that you're gonna dial is six one eight

Starting point is 00:16:51 Six two five. Hold on. Hold on one eight six two five eight three one three This is just a guy called Murray. I don't know. I don't know what it's about. It's calling a man. It's Bill Murray, dude Hi You have reached the residence of Murray Bauman Mom, if this is you, please hang up and calling between the hours of five and six pm as previously discussed Okay This is joey five and six PM as previously discussed. Okay? And this is Joyce. Joyce, thank you for calling.

Starting point is 00:17:28 I've been trying to reach you. I have an update. It's about, well, it's probably best if we speak in person. It's not good or bad, but it's something. Sounds familiar. If this is anyone but my mother or Joyce, well, you think you're real clever

Starting point is 00:17:43 getting my number, don't you? Well, here's some breaking news for you. you're real clever getting my number don't you well here's some breaking news for you you're not clever you're not special you are simply one of the many many nimwits to call here and the closest you will ever get to me is this pre-recorded message so at the beep do me a favor. Hang up and never call here again. You are a parasite Thank you and good day Sorry, this mailbox is full. Oh, I was gonna leave a message. I was like, hey parasite here from Chaluminati podcast Just calling it That's Murray from stranger things season 3 that's just a leftover dead phone number from a promotional campaign.

Starting point is 00:18:26 But isn't it crazy how that stuff just kind of like exists forever? Oh, Joyce. Yeah. OK, that it checks out now. Yeah, I think that's Brett Gellman. I think who does that character Murray in that show. But that is definitely I believe that's his voice this time. So that's one one down one. Well, yeah, next one. Pay for one. Yeah. Uh, next one.

Starting point is 00:18:45 Pay for sponsorship. Let me know. Final season coming out soon. I know. Exactly. Get ready. Uh, next one we're going to, you're going to call yourself and this time you're going to call, you're going to talk to yourself at nine zero nine.

Starting point is 00:18:59 Hold on. Yeah. That's not my phone number. All right. Nine zero nine. Three nine zero. Three nine zero. Zero zero zero three. Yeah. That's not my phone number. All right. 909. 390. 390.

Starting point is 00:19:07 0003. And then, you know, give it a little chat a bit. Hello? Hello? What you doing, girl? What you doing, girl? Oh, nothing. Oh, nothing.

Starting point is 00:19:24 Just hanging out with you. Just hanging out with you. Just hanging out with you. Oh. Oh. I love your voice. I love your voice. So masculine. So masculine.

Starting point is 00:19:32 That's right. That's right. I'm coming to get you. I'm coming to get you. Tell me, is it me? Tell me, is it me? Do you like scary movies? Do you like scary movies?

Starting point is 00:19:40 All right, so this is actually just a diagnostic tool for checking your phone delay in real time. But most people call it an echo line, which is just like a sick name for anything. Yeah, but I think that one's cool in a way because that really is you on the other line. And if you think about it, you really are traveling through time and space to now to someone has someone recorded my am I going to be an AI in like six months? 100% Oh you You're worried about we're all fucked already. It's too late riverside has its own AI that it just feeds off of us from so yeah

Starting point is 00:20:12 Oh, and people don't know this maybe they do but at the end of every one of these when we record it gives us an image Of what it would look like if you were watching us on a computer. It's terrifying. I don't like it. It's great Yeah, yeah, it's wild. It's always like some awful pose to me, like about to throw up or some shit. I'm confused in every single one and that this is always a blur, like half a blur, right? So next time to end this segment,

Starting point is 00:20:38 the final cursed phone number, Jesse is going to call a scary clown. Now this seems cursed. The other two are fine. He's to call a scary clown. Now this seems cursed. The other two were fine. He's going to call the clown at 407-734-0254. Welcome to Verizon Wireless. Nope. Wait.

Starting point is 00:20:54 Okay. Let's try that. Let's try that. Let's try that one more. Let's try that one more time. That was the scariest clown of all. Let's try that again. Let's try that one more time. 40 was the scariest clown of all. Let's try that again. Let's try that one more time.

Starting point is 00:21:06 407-734-0254. Hello, you've reached Sprinkles the clown. I'm not here to take your call. Leave me a message and I'll call you back. Hello, Sprinkles. It's me. Say it's Wrinkles, it's sprinkles that sprinkles Taboo the clown I got your number for my friend Alex F. I'm sorry. That's too simple a Fossion And he wants you to know that he loves you in a sexual nature's way. Anyway, I just want to let you know, everyone at your Illuminati podcast is a big fan of you, Sprinkels.

Starting point is 00:21:57 Bye. Oh, so that's actually Wrinkles the Clown. That's funny, it the Clown out of Naples, Florida, who is, if you haven't seen him before, is kind of like, unironically, just a very scary clown. And calling his number is like part of his brand, to the point that people like us online call him all the time and make kind of like a legend tripping game out of it and there's a movie about wrinkles now but just in case you haven't seen it in the show notes I'm gonna put the original clip that went viral. You're gonna call me back?

Starting point is 00:22:34 Is this a real thing? I don't think so. I don't think so. Good I don't want to get a call at like 2am like hehehe. It's wrinkles. I was like no. Sprinkles huh? Watch your episode Jesse.

Starting point is 00:22:44 I'm outside, no. You hate Sprinkles, huh? Watch your episode, Jesse. I'm outside your home right now. Knock, knock, knock. So the point of Wrinkles is that people use him to scare the shit out of their kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've seen this. So the kid didn't even wake up in this clip,

Starting point is 00:23:00 but the point was to have the clip so that later they could show her that this happened and that they would threaten her with this clown coming to get her if she didn't do like stuff, you know, that she was supposed to do, which I think is kind of crazy. That would have ruined me for life. But I dropped the point of no return. You can kind of describe it to the audience real quick, but I'll also put it in the show notes. It's basically just like CCTV black and white footage of a kid sleeping in bed.

Starting point is 00:23:25 And then underneath the bed is like a little drawer where you would store clothes and it slides out in that drawer is like this dude who's wearing it. I guess you would call it a clown mask. It's like an old man mask with clown makeup, I guess. And he just kind of like almost tries to wake the kid up. The kid doesn't wake up and then he just kind of gets up and leaves. It's actually I like a horror level. I kind of love it.

Starting point is 00:23:47 It's so scary. Yeah, it's good. So scary. He yeah, I'll put I'll put some links so you guys can check him out in the show. But good Lord, that's wrinkles. And that was increasingly cursed phone calls up next. It's the Brazilian poison test with Crandoor. So this

Starting point is 00:24:12 so this is the first of three poison tests that I was originally scheduled to do. We'll get into why the second one is not going to happen in a second. This first one we're going to be conducting with our esteemed guest Crendor, and it involves a Brazilian superstition that consuming mango and milk at the same time is deadly poisonous. So of course, we've had Crendor prepare exactly that, which he will now tempt fate for with you live as he eats this deadly combination for us on camera this second. Mango and milk? Yeah. And we're going to jump cut. We're just going to jump cut to it being ready right now. All right. Look at that. We're here. We're back. We're back live and uh, yes. Cran door is about to risk death by eating a little bit of mango with

Starting point is 00:24:51 some milk right now. Everybody, everybody before he does, if this is where he dies, any final words, Cran door, anything you boys want to say to him before it's time for him to go? I'm so sure that you're going to be fine that I'm not going to say goodbye to you. I would say, listen to all my content, YouTube, friend or Twitch friend or, you know, remember me through history. That's beautiful. I just want to say that of all the people that are likely to die, my door with all of his gut issues, this definitely could kill it. This could be the one. He's going down. I don't even really eat mango that much. Great fruit.

Starting point is 00:25:28 Yeah, I love mango. All right. Here's his mango. Yeah. Yep. He's eating it. Now you gotta drink the milk. For all of our audio listeners only for some reason.

Starting point is 00:25:40 A little citrusy. Yeah. Bit of a sweetness. Yeah. That's mango. Yeah. Good old mango. Little twang. Yeah. Bit of a sweetness. Yeah. That's mango. Yeah. Good old mango.

Starting point is 00:25:47 A little twang. Yeah. A lot of fiber in mango too. Mmm. That's good. Big glass of milk. Yeah. That's a hunk in class.

Starting point is 00:25:55 Mm hmm. Makes me want to try a mango lassi right now. I wish I had one. Wait a minute. Yeah. Seems like they wouldn't make that drink if it was poisonous. If it kills you, yeah. Yeah. So there you go. He lived. He lived. He lived. So that's great. That's so good. Cause now we can get to the show. So according to street smart,

Starting point is 00:26:14 a little like, can we just get like some confetti on screen? He's alive. Street smart brazil.com says that though this belief isn't like commonly and widely held as much in modern times with facts and the internet at our fingertips, one explanation for why it exists in the first place in Brazil that I see repeated a lot has to do with greedy slave owners back in the day trying to dissuade their slaves who subsisted largely on mangoes as a staple food almost not to drink or steal the valuable milk that they were producing on the farm and inventing a horrible lie that would like stop them from doing it because they eat so much mango.

Starting point is 00:26:51 Some of the posts that I read even mention actual instances of slaves being poisoned on purpose to scare the other slaves, which is like crazy. Oh, Lord. But just so everybody knows, mangoes and milk are just fine to combine and in fact to do so and spread the word Is actually a nice big fuck you to the concept of disinformation in general So all the love to Brazil, but eat as much mango and milk as you want. It's delicious You get a lot of fiber from mango. That was the Brazilian poison test, dude Isn't it crazy how even like a couple hundred years ago people are just like Believing the most insane shit.

Starting point is 00:27:27 Like, not even that long. Yeah, a couple of years ago today. Yeah. Yeah, I would believe that today. Yeah. Yeah, come on. I'm just a little bit of a mectin for everything. I've heard. Yeah. Of course, I drink my raw milk to go with my anti vaccines.

Starting point is 00:27:43 Please do. That's my tastiest treat. I take the vaccine and I put one drop of it into a liter of water and then I drink the water. And that is this is actually the, uh, the complete opposite of raw milk. This is ultra pasteurized. My protein milk. Is that fair life? I only drink oat milk. I don't even drink like regular milk anymore. It is pretty good. He was like, does it matter what kind of milk? He was like, does it matter what kind of milk? And I was like, as long as it's cow's milk. And he was like, excellent. Yeah. I asked him, I was like, are we talking like 2% almond? Like we going home? Like,

Starting point is 00:28:15 what can I do? I was like, that's a man who knows his milks. The real, the real thing that we should talk about one day is the poisoning of like a lot of people, a lot of people, I was not aware of this are terribly allergic to milk. Like cow's milk. I'm pretty, I'm pretty lactose intolerant, but they, but they don't know it. Like they aren't lactose.

Starting point is 00:28:33 They just don't know it. And their face puffs up. Oh yeah. And they assume like, and you'll see when they stop drinking milk, their face slims down there. I did not know this. Yeah. Probably me. Who knew? know this yeah probably me who

Starting point is 00:28:45 knew probably literate hashtag probably me up next is infinite fun with Alex Fasciani and Sonic the Hedgehog guys why did you get this why did I get this because I have the fucking setup with the fucking video game emulator ready to go on the computer that's why I got this all right yeah a department of complaints I can file to up strangely no they don't so this is a HR department no no back in 1993 you don't need to spend yeah back in 1993 there was a classic video game Sonic CD that is beloved by those with excellent taste is released for the Sega CD and contains within it an entity who can only be summoned by a specific ritual and in fact to do so and to spread the word is actually a nice big fuck you to

Starting point is 00:29:39 the concept of disinformation just kidding whose essence has spread out into onto the internet and grown a life of its own. So it is said that on a moonlit night, or whenever really, as long as the time is just right, activate the sound test and use it. Lower it a little bit, here you go. Lower it? The guitar is getting a little more power, yeah.

Starting point is 00:30:00 Lower it, you say? Lower it, you say? Oh my God. Do any of you- Lower it, you say? Prendor, when you went to the Sonic concert, did they play the song? I don't believe so. And if they did, it was very modernized. It's the first listen when I went to the Sonic concert, the first half was great. It was like an orchestra.

Starting point is 00:30:20 They're like, do do do do do do. And I was like, this is not. And then the second half, they they brought out the modern rock sonic. they were like, do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do So basically what you do is you activate the sound test cheat, you use it to input a series of mysterious codes, the screen will fade to black and something almost like unbelievably scary like a character from a creepypasta will appear. Luckily for us, like I said, I happen to have the game right here running as accurately as possible on Mr. FPGA. Time out, time out, time out.

Starting point is 00:31:03 What? Is that the Death Star in the background? No, that's the Death Egg. Hello? Have you guys not, are you guys not familiar with how much they ripped off Star Wars across all of Japanese? I've never played Sonic CD. Dude, this, this is, this, this is Dr.

Starting point is 00:31:18 this is Dr. Robotnik's final solution. It's no joke. Damn. Okay. Uh, okay. So, uh, I have a Mr. FPGA here. I'm going to demonstrate this for you now.

Starting point is 00:31:27 If you get scared of Reddit horror stories a lot, you may want to look away, though in the end, I'll let Cranedor be the judge. Here we go. Here's some directions for Jesse to read that I'll drop in the chat so you guys can make sure I'm not fucking it up as I do it. Okay. Here we go. So what does it say? To view the message, first go into

Starting point is 00:31:47 the game sound test by pressing down, down, down, left, right, a at the press start screen. Okay. All right. Then set. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I still will wait. All right. We're going to go back to start screen. Down, down, down, left, right, A, down, down, down, left, right, A. That worked. Right. We're on the sound test screen. Then set FM to 46. OK.

Starting point is 00:32:16 One second. Sure. OK. Then PCM to 12. OK. Then DA to 12. Okay. Then DA to 25. Okay. Here we go.

Starting point is 00:32:31 Whoa. Spooky, scary, sad man with a... What does that say? So, according to Common Scuttlebutt, and this is pretty horrific music, according to Common Scuttlebutt, the message translates to, Fun is infinite with SEGA Enterprises and is signed Image by Majin. It was intended as a light-hearted message from the game's developer Masato Nishimura, who had also hidden his name in Shenmue and a bunch of other games. But for some unknown reason, the music in the US version of the game was changed from the original version

Starting point is 00:33:16 that appears in Japan and Europe to whatever the fuck this is. But here, if you guys want to see, here is a link to the original. And I'll take this down now so you guys don't have to listen to this anymore. But yeah, here's a clip of the original. I don't know why, and the original being the show notes for you guys too. Yo, the original rocks! I don't know what's going on, but it changes the entire tone of it, right? And it makes that, you know, Sonarck the Hedgehog or whatever the fuck you're talking about, right? It is all, it is gone on. It's is on on the dk rap. I love this this rules but it goes on

Starting point is 00:33:50 This character is so scary to people from their childhoods that it went on to be like Its own like slenderman like entity in the sonic fandom where it now stars in all sorts of weird like Fan-made horror games you can get on itch. yo and stuff like that like sonic.exe type shit. Isn't that crazy? It is entirely the music that makes it weird. The minute the picture is scared to get down, get down, get down, get down, get down, get down. It's so much fun.

Starting point is 00:34:19 Yeah. Also apparently Majin like there's another way to pronounce that that means like demon or devil or something like that too. Like like like Majin Boo, I think, right? I'm not sure about that. But like, it's something like that where like people are like, it's a devil thing. It's like signed the devil fun is infinite with Sega love the devil. That's that's kind of the vibe that creepy horror music in the background.

Starting point is 00:34:42 Yeah, that makes it a lot weirder. But now it's time for Krendor to read another bit of a letter from Agent A. Whitney Brown. Here we go. And anyway, the point is, various legends are being rated according to whether or not they're safely retrippable, if you know what I mean. Which, if they are, earns them a designation of LT. Clear, meaning that even greenhorn initiates or even those ridiculous redhorns can attempt them without agency supervision. You know, if you're a dumbass who loves to take risks for no pay, stupid artless cretins, vloggers, I mean, I digress.

Starting point is 00:35:17 Here's some more Kinsella for the boys. So I have a quote here for Mathis to read. Okay. Can we consider personal experience narratives as legends? So I have a quote here from Mathis to read Can we consider personal experience narratives as legends are the contents of modern legends really so similar to ancient ones developing any class Classificatory system remains challenging because the qualities distinguishing a legend from a personal experience Narrative or a folktale are contextual the complexity of legends and legend-telling events only adds to this difficulty, since they can appear as both memorates, first-hand accounts, or fabulets, stories told in the third person, and they can address a wide variety of topics and elicit a broad range

Starting point is 00:35:57 of audience responses. The modes of legend and transmission also vary greatly. They are recounted in face-to-face situations on radio, on television, print media, and on the internet. Due to such incredible variation, scholars have proposed a range of classifications such as belief legends, popular legends, historic legends, urban legends, and rumor legends that are often inconsistent and, in some cases, incompatible. Yeah, so it's kind of hard to categorize them,

Starting point is 00:36:27 but I think like if you really think about what's being said there and you know, I know it's a lot of words, but maybe you can go back and use your skip function on your phone to relisten to it a few times. But like, like, I think that there's something too, I think you guys can think of a different, one of those types of legends each like a belief legend that you can think of one, a popular legend. You can think of one, uh,

Starting point is 00:36:49 like Avril Lavigne being a clone, historic legend, the bread man, Napoleon urban legend, uh, the hook rumor legends. Uh, we'll talk about one in just a second that we're not going to experience today. Um, and uh, yeah, just like all kinds of stuff like that. Like, you know, you can, it's easy. Oh my God. I know exactly what you wanted Mathis to do. Yep. Yep. Yeah. It's all clicking now. Yeah. Here's a, here's a, here's another one for Jesse to read though, first, before we get into that. Current legend scholars generally do agree that the most significant feature marking a legend as legend is that it is both a form of

Starting point is 00:37:25 and channel for social behavior. Legends are communicative acts that serve specific purposes for the groups in which the legends circulate. Furthermore, they express relationships people have with allied stories, beliefs, perceptions, customs, and ideas concerning common anxieties and longings. Dutch. Wait, sorry, I didn't even read his voice. The legend primary characteristics are always, that's not his voice, context dependent and aligned more closely with those of a performance rather than a kind of text or literature and warrant studies evaluating them accordingly.

Starting point is 00:38:03 Beautiful. All right. So, all right. So, uh, what do you guys, what do you guys think about that? What do you guys, what do you guys think about taking this type of stuff seriously? Oh, I think it's fun to goof. I think like light as a feather, stiff as a board, like that kind of vibe. It's fun and it's like a little weird, but if you put five seconds to think about it, you'd be like, oh, okay.

Starting point is 00:38:26 Do you see, do you see places where like people are doing stuff like that? That's like less talked about. Like, I feel like we do it all the time. Like, I feel like even like tasting spicy chips is like a fucking on on YouTube is like kind of like your legend tripping. Or like one chip challenge. Yeah. Yeah. I think like just kind of, you know, um, but, uh, the next one, do you think I'm trying to think of what the belief one is? And I know I'll probably get some flack from corners of the internet, but do you think one of the belief legends is like, um, like, uh, touch healing? Yeah, I think so. I think like, like in a church when they're like, the demons are out of you.

Starting point is 00:39:05 Like what is speaking in tongues is like a perfect example because it's like nobody really, there's no real consensus on what it is. It's kind of like depending on where you are regionally. You're like, something about a habit. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like like, like, yeah, but like you think about that, that's probably more along the lines of like a group delusion, which can quite often happen. Like, well, you don't want to without judging, without judging whether it's real or not. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:39:29 No, no, not in a judging way. Like a scientific way. It's just more like I think like when you're in there, it happens for X, Y, Z reason. You know, like that. What's that thing where people heal is like Reiki. Well, they are like some like that. Yeah, like in the head and stuff. Reflexology is that like the foot thing where they like, they tried to like

Starting point is 00:39:49 heal things through foot pressure. Reflexology, reflexology is like, just like flexing nerves. I wonder where the line is between legend and cause like, it isn't us telling the story of, yeah, there's this guy and he can heal you with the power of touch. There are people saying they can do that. You know what I mean? Like there's a line. I just don't know where that line is. Like, there's the idea of like, or when it transforms. So when we were doing the last episode, we were talking about Johnny Appleseed. And I was like, there's no, no dude went around just threw seeds.

Starting point is 00:40:23 And then people were like, there was a guy named Johnny Appleseed, right. But he didn't do the things. The legend said he wasn't like a dude in one overall with a pot on his head who walked around with no shoes on throwing apples all over the place. Yeah. I wonder where that line is. Cause obviously Dr. Strange shooting people out of their body is not real, but there are definitely people who will say I can leave my.

Starting point is 00:40:47 You know what I mean? Like there's a line between where the legend and the spiritual is. I'm curious about that, but I just don't know. Being fake and it being real is what makes it a legend or a fact. And that's I guess. Yeah. And or who you are. Well, you know, like if you believe it's real and it's not a legend,

Starting point is 00:41:03 then that's different. But, you know, that's the best we can do. As far as speaking of belief legends, or actually like probably rumor legends, I guess, or urban legends, this was going to be this part of this episode where we did the American poison test with Mike Martin, which was going to be about a piece of urban lore that I think just kind of started because with no context, it's just kind of an unsettling experience to eat this food anyway. And that's eating pop rocks, right? Which like, if you're like, with no context, if you don't know what's about to happen, it's kind of scary because it lasts for a really long time. But more, but you know, more specifically, what we were going to do today was we were going to have math as have pop rocks while drinking coke,

Starting point is 00:41:53 which is known to produce so much gas between the two things, which both are gas producing foods that you'll get so inflated with gas that you'll blow up. Yeah. And then. Let me ask you a question. You didn't want to blow up, did you? Cause that was like the old, when I was young and I'm sure when like gen X as well, that

Starting point is 00:42:18 was the, that was the legend. Yeah. You know, like, like that was Pop Rocks plus soda and we all did that as kids and we were all fine. Yep. Yeah. But I do wonder Mentos plus diet Coke. Another one. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:42:33 Yeah. Could you cause we've seen it. You put the Mentos in there. Could you have a Mentos in your mouth, swallow that immediately drink the diet Coke? What would happen? That's the question I have. You probably wouldn't die, but it would probably be

Starting point is 00:42:44 a lot more out of your mouth. It was, I don't know. I don't know that you've done it. No, I'm saying people have that. You can probably put it in the tick tock right now. There's some guy doing it. I want to look at it. Um, eating Mentos, I don't think Coca-Cola same time. It's like right there. Yeah. The other thing that's funny about it is that like part of the story eventually for this one became that little Mikey was the one, the kid who famously likes it in the, in the life cereal commercials, that he was the one who died from having pop rocks. Yeah. I thought it was funny cause it's Mathis and he's Mike and there's little Mikey died from eating

Starting point is 00:43:26 Pop Rocks and Coke every wild. But it was such a popular story. The part that it was little Mikey that like, somebody actually called his mom crying and like apologizing for losing her kid. And she was like, he just came up from school. He's actually alive today. And he was at one point in time or maybe still is the director of marketing sales at Madison square garden. So Mike, he made it Mike. For the record, 13 years ago, furious Pete with almost 5 million subscribers on YouTube.

Starting point is 00:43:57 Yeah. 16 million views on this video did a don't try this at home diet coke Mentos experiment. He did three separate experiments. One involving having it in your mouth, one involving swallowing. He did the whole thing. And yeah, at the end he swallows it, drinks a ton of diet Pepsi diet coke, and then he's fine for a little bit. And then just all the foam goes out of his mouth. It's so gross.

Starting point is 00:44:22 Will you link me that right now? Yes. Yeah. I his mouth. It's so gross. Disgusting. Will you link me to that? Will you link me to that right now? Yes. Yeah, yeah. I love that. That's awesome. Is it shoot out like Kill Bill? Like the way I'm imagining? When he does it in his mouth, it starts exploding out of his mouth. But when he swallows it, his stomach just hurts and he has like a lot of burps. And then he pukes up the foam at the end. That is so fucking nasty.

Starting point is 00:44:45 Like now I know. Like, definitely don't do it. It seems like it's cool, but he does let out a burp that is an ungodly burp, like the burp of a man whose soul is escaping his body. Yeah. So anyway, that's not all I wanted to do as far as Pop Rocks and Coke, because for a harmless fun thing to try, Pop Rocks and Coke kind of just sucks from an aesthetic taste perspective.

Starting point is 00:45:06 I think it's just this kind of a lame way to like... I don't know, sorry, I just watched it. Yeah. I just said a man threw up and you're like, oh, I'll check that out. Dude, the worst one is the Ipikak videos from back in the day. Anyway, anyway. Oh man.

Starting point is 00:45:19 So now to replace the bad combination of Pop Rocks and Coke, which is just Coke with sugar, to replace that in the culture. I'm going to teach everybody. I was going to have Mathis demonstrate, but now I'm just going to teach everybody how to eat Pop Rocks Chaluma nasty style. Which it sounds, it sounds like something I invented. And you don't just, I cannot confirm. Hold on. I need to finish the cap this off yeah. This man, not that he didn't just like have one or two Mentos and then have some Diet Coke.

Starting point is 00:45:49 He chugged the entire bottle with numerous Mentos. More science, dude! A few times, he did it a few times. Gnarly. All right, that's why he threw up. Gnarly, gnarly, gnarly. I don't, I'm so glad that I can't play the audio of that video without ruining my video game setup because that is so nasty to me. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:46:09 Uh, Pop Rocks Chiluma nasty style. I gotta get it out there into the ether. I have to. Here's what you're supposed to do. And I'm Mathis. I know I got you to buy some chicken McNuggets for the first time in years and years. How was that? Not satisfying. Well, maybe they would have been if you had had your pop rocks Chiluminasty style. Um, here's what you do. Step one, take a huge hit of a bowl. Okay. I had Matthews packable. You can still

Starting point is 00:46:36 do that if you want. I know you're not going to do that. Dude, you light that on fire, bro. Then you grab your six piece nuggies with your sweet and sour dip, and then you open your dip and then you dip one of your nuggies in it. And then step three, take a pinch of pop rocks between your fingers and then you dust that shit like salt bay and then boom, that's Chluma nasty style pop rocks. And then I want to see you since I didn't get to see Mathis do it. I would love a video of you doing it at home. So send us, send us that on social media,

Starting point is 00:47:05 and then you'll be eating your Pop Rocks, Chluma nasty style Pop Rocks. I'm out here. So fucking weird, man. For the next week, it's going to be tiddied rat Alex and people eating nasty food. The fan art is of New York street rat and a big titty rat eating Pop Rocks and it's just red Alex eating pop rocks and a nasty style. It's just right. Alex eating diet coke and Mentos and that's just me in real life. You keep on the New York rat like a rat. This is what I do in real life.

Starting point is 00:47:35 Except I'm a giant big titty rat sharing the piece of spaghetti. They puke in each other's mouth. Yeah, it's great. All right. Well, we've gone too far. That's a beautiful good job, everyone. Next is called Bloody Mary versus Svartamadam or Madam with Cox and Krendor. Svartamadam, Svartamadam maybe with Cox and Krendor. Up next, I'm going to ask each of you to prepare your cell phone cameras, Cox and Krendor,

Starting point is 00:47:59 as we do a dueling themed yin yang of a bathroom summoning ritual featuring everyone's two favorite hosts of a podcast with the rather report Cox and Crendor. Obviously everyone here in America knows Bloody Mary is the weird mirror ghost lady who appears in the dark when you do the right steps and chant her name or if you didn't now you do. Mary has different origins and faces but here's an account from a male informant from 1984 Middletown, Pennsylvania about his fairly typical American experience with the legend from Mathis to read. Bloody Mary was a character who was murdered in the woods behind Pine Road Elementary School.

Starting point is 00:48:39 To call her ghost, girls go in the bathroom and prick their finger with the pin to draw a drop of blood. Then they press the two droplets of blood together and say, we believe in Bloody Mary 10 times with their eyes shut. Then upon opening their eyes, they look into the bathroom mirror. The image of Bloody Mary's face would appear in the mirror. She was said to have been a young girl with long hair, very pale skin and blood running down her face from a large cut in her forehead.

Starting point is 00:49:05 So that's Bloody Mary. Interestingly, not the three times. No, no. Well, that's the world. You'll we'll get to it. That's the pussy version of it. On the other end of this best. That's that's the 80s story. That's a different story than what we do today. But on the other end of the spectrum from Sweden, right comes another different version of this tale. That's ultimately probably the more traditional of them in the form of some smart, a madam, smart, a madam, I'm so sorry, sweet, bar, mad, which connects all the way back to old European mirror gazing games of antiquity. So interesting,

Starting point is 00:49:37 though, consider this quote from Sikhs ghost blog about it, which Jesse will read for us now, because this is an interesting thought that I thought was kind of neat. What? Why? There. There it is. Black Madame is the Swedish version of Bloody Mary but Swedish children are more dismissive of spirits. Their version of this game is not as scary. The traditional game involves Black Madame or in Swedish, Svarta Madame, appearing after a child stands in front of the mirror and states 12 times, I don't believe in you Black Madame.

Starting point is 00:50:13 Yeah. So now, if you caught that, it's kind of like Bloody Mary works by telling her you do believe in her and Svarta Madame works by telling her you don't believe in her. So I thought it would be cute if Crandoor went and did a modern version of Bloody Mary and Jesse went and did a modern version of smart of Adam, because he's the skeptic one, right? Gentlemen, if you would please take your phones with you to the bathroom. Boy.

Starting point is 00:50:35 Okay. Okay. So just make it dark in the bathroom. Take your phones in there. Once it's dark, start recording. Then Crandoor turn around five times with your eyes closed and say, I believe in Bloody Mary once with every rotation and then look in the mirror.

Starting point is 00:50:51 That's your mission. And then cameras on and rolling. Yeah. And then Jesse. Do I turn the light on after that or no? The, the light is just to see you out of the room after you may or may not have seen Bloody Mary. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:51:04 You, the, the time when you're going to see Bloody Mary is when you after you may or may not have seen Bloody Mary. Okay, I see. Yeah. The time when you're going to see Bloody Mary is when you open your eyes. All right. According to the legend. And then Jesse, if you would go into the bathroom, look defiantly into the mirror without closing your eyes and 12 times say, I don't believe in you, Svarta Madame, or if you want to say Black Madam, if you're worried about Sweden coming after you in the comments.

Starting point is 00:51:26 Um, and, or, you know, maybe your bad Swedish will make her not appear. Yeah. Can I use a fake Swedish accent? If you really want to talk like this, if you do it, if you do it, if you do it, you have to commit so hard. I feel like that would definitely get her to show up. Yeah. So she'd be like, no, I'm taking this full out.

Starting point is 00:51:45 So then, so then, so then both of you guys go do that, come back here. We'll play the videos in the meantime, and then you guys will come back and you'll say whether or not you saw Bloody Mary in Svartum Adam, okay? All right, excellent. Okay. So I don't say Bloody Mary, I say I believe in Bloody Mary.

Starting point is 00:52:03 I believe in Bloody Mary. Okay, excellent. Every time you turn around. Good luck, gentlemen, if you die from a young girl, I'm sorry say bloody Mary. I believe in Bloody Mary. I believe in Bloody Mary. Okay, every time you turn around Good luck gentlemen, if you die from a young girl, I'm sorry back. All right. All right I mean, I've already been poisoned Brazilian style. You're dead, dude. You're gone You're wrapped. We're in seance territory. I think they're gonna die. I don't think so. I think it's good I don't think they're gonna see anything But I think it's gonna feel a little bit scary. Like if you watch the videos, I think it's good. I don't think they're going to see anything, but I think it's going to feel a little bit scary. Like if you watch the videos, I think it's going to feel scary. I think they're going to feel like Blair

Starting point is 00:52:28 witchy. I think that's the folks. I'm back. That's great. Let's wait, wait for your results. Please withhold your results until Jesse returns from the bathroom. All right. Honestly, it's funny. You're just being like, I know you may have seen blade Mary right now, but please hold on. Yeah. We got to find out if you've seen bloody Mary or not, but just in a minute. Yeah. It's not that important. I can't imagine it's going to take him that long.

Starting point is 00:52:54 Yep. There he is. Yep. Look at, there we go. All right. Wait a minute. Now wait before don't say anything yet. Don't say anything yet. Crendor. Did you see Bloody Mary? Uh, if Bloody Mary is my own face kind of odd in the dark, then yes. That's not bad. That's better than I expected. Jesse, did you see Svartamadam? Svartamadam. Um, I may have messed up the ritual cause I lost count cause you wanted me to do it 12 times, but as long as you believe you did it 12 times, that's fine.

Starting point is 00:53:30 Yeah. That's good. I mean, baby. Yeah. I kept saying, I did one more for extra just in case. That's good. Uh, I will say your face in the camera in the dark, terrifying. It's really weird looking, but no Swedish ghosts came and got me.

Starting point is 00:53:46 Okay. In fact, I would go on a limb and say that that's what people get scared of. The face. Yeah. The face like gas and yourself up with your friends and then seeing your own fucked up face in the mirror. Yeah. Yeah. That might be it. That may be it. But that one point while I was doing it, the air conditioner went off and it made the really loud noise. That's probably we could say that was the ghost showing up if you want. That's so funny. All right. So that is Bloody Mary versus Smarter Madom.

Starting point is 00:54:14 And now we're going to play Harvest Moon Death Comes to Mineral Town with Alex Fossiani. Up next we have yet another piece of unbelievable video game internet horror in the form of the Harvest Moon games, which have been made for basically every console ever made for the last 25 years, or probably even more than that. But most specifically, since it's the game I see in the screenshots online the most about this, which makes it the best for legend tripping because it's the most like what people have seen, we're going to be using the second GBA title, Harvest Moon, More Friends of Mineral Town, which as you'll see features a girl who leaves her boring city life behind to buy her own farm.

Starting point is 00:54:58 You mean the current American dream? That's right. And actually what happens is she gets swindled into Does like a raccoon do it? No, she just, the farm is actually like a dead guys farm that hasn't been worked on for a long time and everybody who gets there to claim the farm that's cheap comes and leaves because it sucks. And so, oh, my birthday is July 14th. Number 14. That's a good birthday month of summer.

Starting point is 00:55:29 And this is, um, this is Shlop. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Anybody had Harvest Moon and Sonic CD on their bingo cards today for this episode? No way.

Starting point is 00:56:06 So check this out. This is just to set up the plot and then we'll jump forward. She's just so bored. It's like a Cathy cartoon, you know? Who needs images? She's just over it. This is on Game Boy, man. There's some.

Starting point is 00:56:23 There's some images. Look at her. She's just born in her house. No TV, big giant book on the table. Yeah. Very shiny blonde hair. Way too big. Oh, it's a newspaper. That's all right. Look at the sea. She's seeing it. Okay. Just checking out the farm. She's having a fantasy of farm life. Look at that. I just wanted to show you this because I wanted to see what kind of game this is.

Starting point is 00:56:49 Yeah, it's adorable. But yeah. It ripped off Stardew Valley. Yeah, it's not. Yeah, that's what they did. Now, this is neither here nor there though, because in this game, as and many others in the Harvest Moon series, it is said that due to a superstition among many East Asian cultures in which the word for four and the word for death are associated,

Starting point is 00:57:11 or just the concepts of them are associated because they're near homonyms for each other in their various local languages, if you check your TV on the farm at exactly 4.44pm on any day, the game will glitch out like it's been hit with a death curse, which has scared generations of pixel farmers over the years and which I will attempt to recreate for us now. But of course, what they don't tell you is that to see the time down to the precise minute, you have to buy a clock in the game of Harvest Moon, which takes several days of in-game time and strategic money grinding to achieve as quickly as possible. Probably took me about an hour and 15 minutes to do it.

Starting point is 00:57:55 But I did all of that this morning and saved the state, so hopefully when I go and load the state right now, we'll be able to get to that point. So let's do that right now and pray for rain. And yes, it's Monday, it's 320, it's almost 444 PM. I got to check and make sure my clock is here, which it is. That means my clock is installed. We're good to go. So now I'm going to speed the emulator up a little bit. We're back to our roots, boys. We're back to go. So now I'm going to speed the emulator up a little bit. We're back to our roots. We're back being players. Now I'm it's how do you know it's 44, though? So that's why that's why I had to buy the clock.

Starting point is 00:58:32 Gotcha. Yeah, it's going 10 minute show. Yeah. So I have to like guess exactly. So I'm going to go in and see what it looks like right when it hits four. Gotcha. Right. And then I'm going to check the clock. Oh, fuck. Oh, so now I'm going to just try and go out and come back. And it's early.

Starting point is 00:58:55 I'm just going to try and go out and come right back in. There's going to be 45. You screwed up. And he's so annoying. Oh, oh, right now. be 45. You screwed up, man. Be so annoying. Oh, no! Right now! All right, ready? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:09 So now I'm supposed to just watch TV at exactly this time and it should be crazy. Time's already passed! No, time doesn't pass in Harvest Moon when you're indoors. Look, that's my sock hook. No, he's right. That's my sock hook. All right, here we go. Oh, for that for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for for You know, in the sort of like scary, like boundary breaking way this is and you can scare you. But I remember getting like this with the Pokemon with the missing go or missing, though.

Starting point is 00:59:50 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was always freaky and you're like, oh, oh, that's a perfect example of like one of these things that like might be a legend trip. You know what I mean? It's like so many people did it. You reset the game. This game, I think this is the second game on Game Boy Advance. This one I think just ends eventually. But on the first game, it keeps opening and closing the

Starting point is 01:00:10 text box and it is like really annoying to try and tap out of. So usually you should reset the game I think for that one. But I think you can kind of like roll the controller out of it too. But this is the one that everybody posts screenshots of. So I thought it would be the coolest one to see in real life. Yeah, that's cool. That is very. Oh, can I do it again? I wonder?

Starting point is 01:00:28 Yeah. Okay. You can. And that's death comes to Mineral Town. Yay. So now we have another bit of letter from agent a Whitney Brown for Cranador to read. And here we go. Anyway, now they're trying to.

Starting point is 01:00:47 Oh, wait, is that the right one? Yeah, it is now. Oh, it is. Anyway, now they're trying to get me on the computer. Have you heard about this stuff? 100 years ago, legends took 100 years to coagulate. Now you can do it in eight months in the movies out nine. Can you believe it? And what if we get fucking sued? You you know someone owns the goddamn copyright that these things

Starting point is 01:01:08 now they never think of that they ever do think that do think they ever thought of that at HQ he must have a typo in his letter yeah apparently what a load of hooey anyway enjoy the Kinsella as as I, for one, did not. All right. So here's some more quotes from Kinsella. This one's for Mathis to read here. Here we go. Advancements in technology certainly offer new ways to engage with the world, but virtual

Starting point is 01:01:36 realities, cyberspace, and other computer-mediated spaces also represent environments wherein the products and processes of folklore circulate unabated. The discipline of folklore concentrates on the traditional formulas used within everyday existence to promote both cultural continuity and change. So the adaptations of these traditional formulas within online environments deserve our attention. Right. So like in the way that like technology changes our culture, the form shape and ability to understand legends also shifts, right? Which is kind of interesting. Um, and so here's another, uh, quote for Jesse to understand.

Starting point is 01:02:20 I mean, to read and understand. Hope I can't promise I'll understand. I'll be honest. Well, at least it's not about quantum quantum physics that shit just just my brain sideways I love it. I should mention there are some folklorists who have argued that no legitimate human interaction occurs online only a few years ago Larissa be all over Fiacova and Maria Yelandeskaya? Yelanevskaia? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:02:51 Investigators, sorry about that, investigated online legend telling and concluded that virtual communication, being the surrogate of the real, can only give an illusion of friendship involvement and belonging. This position is unfounded for how can anyone determine another's experience of belonging either someone senses belonging or doesn't due to the immense variety of communicative activities, sweeping generalizations like this are unproductive. Yeah. So like that's, that's the same thing.

Starting point is 01:03:21 Like it's like, it's like another way of asking the same question. Like basically if interaction online is real, can that, I guess like you have to decide whether online is real life, if you decide whether or not you can legend trip online or if legends or culture can exist online. I guess you have to decide if online itself is real, to, to, you know, make the culture the same as something like from 100 years ago, you

Starting point is 01:03:54 have to decide, yeah, like, when I'm online, that's me online, that's me there on the internet, if you know what I mean, like I'm extending my presence in the world onto the internet. Kind of interesting. I don't know. This next one is called the Red Book Candlelight All Play. So now we come to the first true all play of today's episode. Don't really be Crendor who leads you guys through this next Mexican slash sometimes

Starting point is 01:04:20 also South American spirit communication ritual. Very good. Because he's the one who I told to get himself a red book. Shout outs to the ghost in my machine, folklore bog for the great piece on this. Basically, it is most like a Ouija board or something like that where we'll each, well, you guys will be able to each ask

Starting point is 01:04:38 the spirits a question. So get one ready that's better than how are you? And typically it's not done over the internet, but going along with what agent Whitney Brown has us thinking about, we're going to surf on vibes today and we're going to give it a shot anyway, right? So step one is to make all our rooms as dark as possible. Unfortunately, every light in my house is off and my blinds are closed right now. And my webcam is just doing some kind of extra work to make things crazy.

Starting point is 01:05:10 But what we're going to do is we're going to step one, make our rooms as dark as possible. And then we're going to each light a candle, which we have prepared before the show. I have it right here for us. Tomato scented. That's fine. Tomato scented. How nice. So this one, it's, it's barely changing the light on the camera, but I'm telling you, this is flickering like a Victorian library in real life. I don't know why the light is so good.

Starting point is 01:05:36 It looks like there's like light like bleeding in from outside behind me. It's not, it's like dark in here. Mine is lit. Yep. There you go. Mathis candle is lit. Jesse looks like he's about to tell a horrifying story. And Krendor is getting there. I'm getting there. I'm getting there. Jesse's doing Deckard There was one ring, rule them all. In the beginning, man was very shitty to the elves. And to everyone, in fact. Krendor's lit, we're all lit.

Starting point is 01:06:18 I'm lit in a lot of different ways. So lit, dude. We literally watched Mathis get lit on camera there, He's getting lit. He's getting lit on YouTube right now for everyone to see. All right. No ads on this. No ads on this video or we could blur out Mathis. It's up to you. Dean have fun. Yeah, I don't care. I don't care what's in my mouth now to you. So now, Craner, you got the book? Yes. Okay, everybody. Everybody, everybody be quiet except for me giving

Starting point is 01:06:48 the instructions and Cranador saying what I tell him to say. Cranador, let's put the book flat, on as flat a surface as you can, where you could easily open and close the book. All right. Maybe that's your lap, could be. Let's move my keyboard here. Okay.

Starting point is 01:07:04 All right. And then from now on, I'm move my keyboard here. OK. All right. And then from now on, I'm going to have you close your eyes. OK. And out loud with your eyes still closed, you're going to ask the question. Red book, may I enter your game? And then while your eyes are still closed, you're going to open the book to a random page and put your finger down. OK. All right. Our eyes closed to or just just Crandoor for now. All right. What do I say again? Okay. You say red book. May I read

Starting point is 01:07:31 your book? May I enter your game? All right. Random page. Yep. Finger. Okay. Open your eyes and read the word. Get get if it feels positive, Crendor is then in the game. I feel like it does. If, but if it feels silly or weird or negative, try asking again. But I feel like that felt positive to me. I feel like it's, it's slightly positive, but it's got some negative vibes. Still. You feel like get might be like, get out. Yeah. If you don't feel comfortable, if we. Yeah. OK. If you don't feel comfortable, we got to.

Starting point is 01:08:07 We'll take it again. Yeah. Yeah. You got to do it again. All right. Red Book. May I enter the game? Steve, that feels better. It's still positive. That's positive. You feel good about. Yeah. I think yes, it makes sense because Jack Black just played Steve in the Minecraft.

Starting point is 01:08:26 Right, right. Jack Black. Everybody welcomes in Jack Black. Everybody likes him. Right, right. Everybody likes Steve. That's just good. He's America's everyone. Yeah. Great guy. Or maybe he's trying to tell you, go get Steve. Hey Steve. OK, so Cranedor's in the game.

Starting point is 01:08:41 So now that you've been accepted, you can ask your question, which you do in the exact same way. close your eyes, you say red book, and then you ask the question and then you open the book and then you put your hand down and then you open your eyes. Exactly. All right. Red book. Will I get a million subscribers responsibilities? Oh shit. Okay.

Starting point is 01:09:08 So let's talk about this for a second. What do you think that means? Maybe it means if I'm true to my responsibilities in life, yeah, and put in the work and believe in myself, then I can achieve it. Or maybe a million subscribers is more trouble than it's worth. Maybe it's a big responsibility to have a million subscribers and you don't need that kind of smoke. You know what I'm saying? That's true too. Yeah. So something to think about. Okay. So Cranedora's question is pretty,

Starting point is 01:09:35 I would say pretty directly been answered. So next we do this for the rest of us in order. So now this time Mathis and Cranador close your eyes. And this time Mathis asked the question, Redbook, can I enter your game? And then Cranador will then check the book. Oh, he's like channeling. Yeah, I'm channeling right now. I feel it.

Starting point is 01:09:59 Ready? Here we go. Redbook, may I enter your game? Different different how do you feel about you are different? That's maybe different like go to a different person maybe means try Jesse you okay? You wanted you wanted you wanted to come back to you. Yeah, I'll see if it comes back. All right Yeah, let's guide it. Let's take there. Let's take it. Okay, so Jesse this time you close your eyes red book may enter your game Red book may I enter your game? Red Book, may I enter your game? Crucial, you're crucial that I do this.

Starting point is 01:10:32 Yeah, I get it. OK, great. Perfect. Now it's crucial. Great. OK, so let's go back to Mathis, then let's try and get everybody in the game. OK, OK. Red Book, may I enter your game? Important, it's important. Okay. Okay. Red book. May I enter your game? Important. It's important. Okay. All right. He had to be first for some reason.

Starting point is 01:10:53 Okay. Then you know what I think I'm going to interpret that to mean that you guys all need to close your eyes every time that we do anything from now on. Okay. So now Mathis, ask your question. Remember to address red book before asking the questions. Everybody close your eyes and thenis, ask your question. Remember to address Red Book before asking the questions. Everybody close your eyes and then Mathis ask your question. There we go. Red Book. Are aliens watching me from the skies? Want. It's a want them to do do that said, they said you wish bitch.

Starting point is 01:11:29 I don't think this game is real boys. You're out. You're out on the game. All right. All right. All right. Eyes closed again. Eyes closed again. Eyes closed again. Jesse, remember red book, then ask your question. Red book. Did I summon the black madam to this office? Position. What do you think? Position. I know that's like diverse to me.

Starting point is 01:11:57 Okay. If you think it's if it doesn't resonate with you immediately, we have to do it again. So close your eyes. Everybody again, ask the same exact question again. This. Yeah, it's all right. That's part of it. If it doesn't make sense, we just do it again. So close your eyes. Everybody again, ask the same exact question again. This shit. Yeah, that's all right. That's part of it. If it doesn't make sense, we just do it again. That's part of it. We can do overs and seance. It has to read has to work. It has to make sense. It has to feel like it. Okay. Go ahead. Red book. Do the things on my desk that Alex made me buy serve a purpose at all. More.

Starting point is 01:12:31 More than you'll ever know. More than you'll ever know. I think it wants me to ask another question. Okay. I think it's saying more. All right. All right. All right.

Starting point is 01:12:38 Questions. Good. Red book is Crendor actually using you correctly? Succeeded. Boom. It's real, dude. This is real. I think it's real.

Starting point is 01:12:54 Yeah, it's real. This is just like church. Yeah. Speaking through the powers of God. We made it real. This was a real. I feel like this was a very successful legend. We need Alex to enter the game. OK. OK. OK. All right. All right. All right. Do you have a, do you have a candle? Do you need a candle? I'll hold my candle up for you.

Starting point is 01:13:09 So you can power. All right. All right. I'm going to close my eyes. Here we go. Red book. May I enter the game? Grown. I feel good about that. I feel good about it. I feel like it's like, hold on. How's it spelled though? Oh, that's normal. G R O W N. That's okay. Good.

Starting point is 01:13:30 I thought it was like, yeah, that would have been, I would have been out on that. Yeah. No, that sounds good to me. Okay. Okay. Okay. Everybody, everybody close your eyes. Red book.

Starting point is 01:13:42 Is it worth it when I work this hard on these episodes and put in all this effort just ultimately to make stupid jokes about the nature of reality? That. That's great. I'll take that. Appropriately cryptic for my own mission. So that's great. That feels good to me. I almost feels like they're candles before. It almost feels like they're bidding with me. Uh, yeah. Go ahead and, uh, what?

Starting point is 01:14:09 Wait, before you blow out your candles, Krendor has to ask permission for each of us to leave the game. Um, unless as a group, we all decide for science that we're happy to purposely tempt fate and possibly be haunted until we reconvene and beg for permission to leave the game. I'm already haunted by that. Damn other ghosts.

Starting point is 01:14:28 I'm asking permission for myself. Yeah, I'm no fool. All right. All right. Everybody close their eyes. Red book. May I leave the game? Puff.

Starting point is 01:14:39 You're out, dude. Got it. Solid. Bam. Bam. I'm gone. In a puff of smoke. All're out dude. You got it. Solid. Damn dude. I'm gone in a puff of smoke. All right. Mathis no. Man.

Starting point is 01:14:48 All right. This is helping. You gotta get out of the game Mathis. Oh yeah, we have to blow it up with a puff. Oh they have a puff. Yeah, here we go. Oh my God, makes so much sense. Damn.

Starting point is 01:14:58 Dude. Thank you. That must be real. Thank you Seth Godin's all marketers tell stories. Yeah, there you go's all marketers tell stories. Yeah, the red book, dude. That's where all of Krendor's secrets come from. That's how he gets that's why he's so successful. It is. All right.

Starting point is 01:15:17 So that was the Red Book Candlelight All Play. Thank you, guys. Up next, we have the legend tripping the shadow man on LSD with Alex Fasciani. Oh shit. Yeah. Uh, LSD dream emulator is a crazy game for the original PlayStation that never officially made it out of Japan, which I think is a shame because it has one of the most interesting backstories of any video game I could think of, which is

Starting point is 01:15:41 that the designer and composer of this game was a wild, like, true artist type guy called Osamu Sato, who also did a bunch of graphic design and music with his company OSD, which is Outside Directors Company, but the game was actually based on a crazy, like, decades-long dream journal of, like, words and art by one of the staff members at the publisher who was called Asmik Ace Entertainment whose name was Hiroko Nishikawa. So she made this amazing PDF that is called the lovely, what is it called? It'll say it on here. I'll give you the link to it first. It's, it's called the lovely sweet dream. And it's a beautiful PDF that you can see that has like, all these, all these like, sort of like bizarre things that happen to her and

Starting point is 01:16:39 bizarre visuals that she describes, it's laid out in a very artistic way. I believe that Sato had something to do with laying out the book as well. But what makes this game extra interesting for this type of legend tripping is that, as Mathis will read for you right now from the wiki, and the wiki, by the way, very, very good wiki. The game is random, but it has a very interesting caveat that makes it really good for this type of thing. So I'm going to have Mathis read this quote right here and it's going to explain everything to you.

Starting point is 01:17:14 Okay. LSD dream emulator is speculated to use a pseudo random number generation PRNG to determine a hidden generation value, which provides instructions for numerous numerous details of every dream sequence in the game. The speculated generation value seems to be rerolled every time certain target player driven actions are performed, including main menu idling using the in game save load system restarting the game triggering map chunks and objects during the dream, spending time in a location, et cetera.

Starting point is 01:17:46 Importantly, due to the believed usage of PRNG system, the dream generation algorithm of LSD dream dream emulator is identical on any game copy and hardware. Any dream or playthrough has been proven possible to replicate on any device, emulator or emulator by doing identical actions. The default generation for the first boot of the game also remains identical on any device, emulator or emulator by doing identical actions. The default generation for the first boot of the game also remains identical on any physical and emulated copies of the game. The identical actions and timings performed in dreams always leads to identical outcomes and exact copies of dreams for any player on any copy of

Starting point is 01:18:18 the game. Pretty interesting, right? So like though the game like changes and morphs as you play it, everybody starts in the same place, and theoretically could get to the same place if they did the exact same thing. So it's actually your unique journey through the game that randomizes the game for you. I was gonna say it's actually like from a from a from an an interesting perspective to it's an interesting way to try and get around a computer's or program's inability to be truly random.

Starting point is 01:18:49 Like that's something you learn. It's like no matter if you're creating random number of generators, it's actually not random due to the way it's generated. But if you're basing it on players actions, the one thing you can't really predict, right? Then you're random. That's kind of a way to make it random, truer random than normal. exactly. That's a really cool

Starting point is 01:19:07 Thing I feel like people could use nowadays exactly right so which is why? In all that randomness that human generated randomness. We're going to be trying to find an entity today that may or may not appear Which I feel like is a rumor. I mean, it's like a magic in mushrooms Yeah, 30 minutes ago. Well, you may not need to. You may not need to for this game. So the guy that we're looking for is called the Shadow Man, who is also known as the Grey Man or the Spy,

Starting point is 01:19:35 which I believe is based on their name in the game files, which is simspy.mom, which is just a file type. It appears during B-type days, which are non-special, even-numbered days, because some days, instead of being normal dream days, are like a video or something like that that plays on specific days. And you'll see what I mean in a minute.

Starting point is 01:19:57 He appears directly in front of the player and glides towards you in a straight line, though he is avoidable theoretically. He is sometimes seen as the villain of the game, though the game is very, you know, not narrative based in that way. Because while you can't die in the game so much as move on to the next day's dream, and you can do this by like touching certain things or like falling into holes or certain other things can happen. The Shadow Man has one of the only adverse effects on you of anything in the game, which is

Starting point is 01:20:27 that he deletes your save data for flashback mode, which you unlock after a while playing the game, and which allows you to replay memorable moments that you've encountered in the dream world. So it stands in for him maybe being able to like erase your memory, if you want to think about it that way. Like you know, he finds you in your dreams and erases your memory. So today though, for the viewer experience, we're going to be starting our game from day one with a fresh save. I'm going to be giving myself exactly 10 minutes to locate the shadow

Starting point is 01:20:59 man. But even if we don't end up finding him, Please enjoy right now a trip through one of the weirdest fucking games. Shout outs the translation by Mr. Nobody and Arcane Aria. So let's get into that right now. We're gonna load that up. And if you guys want to try and help me, here is a PDF guide. You want to try and help me get around, though it's going to be probably hard to do. And I'll give you guys some quotes as we go, depending on how much time it takes us to find him. So 10 minutes on the clock in just a minute, once I press start on the game. But we're gonna just check out the LSD Dream Simulator because this game right here is one of the most unique games I've ever played and really does feel like

Starting point is 01:21:54 you're legend tripping just by playing it. I feel like most people probably haven't seen it and have only heard about it by reputation. I love this already. I have no idea what this is going to be. Yo. I love it already. Yeah. Yeah. Developer did LSD and just made a game. No, it's the lovely sweet dream, dream diary, dream emulator. That's all it is. That's all it means.

Starting point is 01:22:29 Drugs are illegal in Japan. That's all it means. Shall I get to it? Yeah, let's go. All right. Day one, we're starting straight. And I think as a favor to you guys, I'm going to turn the shake from walking off.

Starting point is 01:22:43 Thank you. That's very good. Yes. So here we go. 10 minutes on the clock. I'm starting. We're gonna find that motherfucker. Here is a quote for Jesse to read. And then I'll walk around a bit. Accurate details of the Grey Man's spawn mechanics remain unknown. However, numerous studies have shown that his spawn isn't random and is fully dependent on the generation the player is currently in. Generation changes as the player moves,

Starting point is 01:23:19 triggers the events and loads different chunks of the map. When the required generation is reached, the gray man appears. Loading and unloading chunks of the map on purpose can be abused to force the gray man to spawn faster, although not guaranteed. Okay. All right.

Starting point is 01:23:39 So this game- Well, you move at an incredibly slow pace. You can run, but when you do, you really run. But you really go for it. Can I get up here? Can I get up on this thing? Oh, what is that? Oh, and you can look down.

Starting point is 01:23:54 What is that? You see that? Yeah, someone's flipping through. Everything's going red. Did I die? Oh everything's going red. Did I die? But now you're in like fucking like Silent Hill with a big foot statue It's like Quentin Tarantino's backyard. I was that's all a joke. I was about to make the exact same one

Starting point is 01:24:24 Give him a hand. Right there. Anybody have any idea where I may be? Oh yeah, let's see. I'm trying to find the shadow man. I know that the guy doesn't appear in the natural world it's supposed to be, but I don't know what the natural world is. Supposedly the natural world is supposed

Starting point is 01:24:42 to be like a hub world but I don't know man I don't know this is a this first of all this this PDF is almost 400 pages long which one which one the one guide that you gave yeah okay yeah yeah that's true so like I don't know where I'm looking dude I don't know where you are. I'm looking dude. I don't know where you are and you're gone. Randomly you touch stuff sometimes and you just teleport and like certain areas take you to other places. It's supposed to be like a real dream where you just kind of like stuff just sometimes randomly changes. Oh I'm running through the fields now. You're like green like Chernobyl.

Starting point is 01:25:23 This is the Chiluminati area. Oh, shadow man. Where are you? We're trying to make the television here. Please, if you could. Every time you say shadow man, I think princess is a fraud. Oh, shadow man. I'm the shadow man.

Starting point is 01:25:41 The shadow man sounds like a sleep paralysis demon. We got a shift from Chiluminati. Oh wait. I think I know where we are. Oh yeah. Father. This says father and daughter. And it's in a green background by a tree isolated from the mainland by a bridge. The lonely silhouette lies over the abyss. Demon is in the same area trying to approach them may cause it to appear, forcing a link

Starting point is 01:26:02 and scaring the living daylights at anyone who wasn't expecting it go into that building area No, oh, yeah, we say tree though, but maybe this looks like it's by a tree and a fence Maybe it's in there on that hall. I'll go inside and maybe it's on the other side be a bitch go Although this might also just lead to a shadow. Something completely different. Well, let's see. Who knows? I want this game now.

Starting point is 01:26:33 Oh, you're still in control. Oh, it wasn't even I was in control. It was just playing that audio. OK, wait, OK, that's a big bell. Oh, what was that? What is that freaking? I think even the music is generative. What does that sound? What a phenomenal like, oh, you're on the other side of the hand statue now.

Starting point is 01:26:59 Oh yeah. Okay, so I was back here before. Yeah. Okay. So I was back here before. Yeah. Oh, well it's like, what a phenomenal, like experiment for a game in such a young generation too. PS1 3D is still very new. This is really something that I could just get baked and do a lot of time. Oh, what's those guys? Hello? Are you the hat man?

Starting point is 01:27:22 Are those the villagers from Minecraft? I think they're like Japanese statues, Buddha statues. Oh, yeah. See you later. Should I touch it? Oh, whoa. Yeah. Oh, these were the Buddha men. I found it.

Starting point is 01:27:37 Oh, damn it. These guys wander the streets randomly, make a lot of noise as they walk. They're walking sounds identical to your own. They also move pretty fast. They look like statues linking them with the linking with them tends to take you into the pit I'm here oh what is that it's a chicken dog what is that I'm gonna try and get a better angle on a balloon animal I'm gonna try get a better angle on it well it's like a

Starting point is 01:27:58 statue of something person elephant isn't hell is that what that is yeah the Oh my god. Oh, oh, oh, looking at it is making you go away. Oh, you've located the giant pink elephant. This may as well be the mascot for LSD dream simulator as its most prominent and memorable entity in the whole game as well as the easiest one to find. It'll appear just above the pit and float towards the heavens, linking it with the impossibles. You'll fall into the pit before you could reach it. There you go. Okay. Well, I didn't go in the heavens, linking it with the impossibles. You'll fall into the pit before you could reach it. There you go. Okay. Well, I didn't go in the pit, but it ended my day. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:28:32 Yeah, I got like just above four minutes. What? I'm being chased by something, something like an organization. The old retired master of the small dressmaker shop is covering for me. However, I will continue to be chased by the enemies Hello. Yeah. Well, uh, oh

Starting point is 01:28:49 That must have been one of those pre-programmed days Uh-huh. Yeah, they three. Yeah. All right. All right back to it Into the world you go back to it Come Into the world you go? Back to it. Come on, Shadow Man. Hey, we're in. I feel like I could do this for like-

Starting point is 01:29:10 Alright, you don't have to go up the stairs this time, I can go the other way. Yeah, you're right, okay. Oh, what's over there? Could a kitchen with like, no, just a- Just does look like my- Like my- Whoa! Okay. No! Hello! The hell was that? I couldn't move after you saw me. Could a kitchen with like, no, it's a... This does look like my... like my... Whoa! Ah! No!

Starting point is 01:29:26 Hello! The hell was that? I couldn't move after he saw me. The blood sucker! Am I back to the pit? Oh, you're back here again. Oh, we're back to the green world! The elephant better not come back out of here.

Starting point is 01:29:37 So by the tree is the... there's a demon by the tree? Oh, right. Oh! Oh! Oh, never mind. Something linked me. What did it link me to? What linked me? Holy shit, what the fuck is this? What the hell? Green Hill Zone?

Starting point is 01:29:57 Okay, I see a tree. The bridge. The cliff. Yeah, there's the tree and the bridge! What's that? What's that noise? I think that was the bridge Under my feet wouldn't it be by the tree you can look up right there anything in the sky No You know the thing that foot you was the imp oh Yeah, it says the actual chances of the imp appearing are slim. However, it flies straight towards you and forces a link. Dude, look at that.

Starting point is 01:30:28 Tripping all kinds of legends right now, dude. You are. Oh, well, how that why that work, I don't know. That's why. That's three one. No touch three to yet. Oh, well, we're in a city now. Nice, beautiful lit. My flying your fly. Are you below? Oh, we're in a city now. Nighttime beautifully lit. Am I flying? You're flying.

Starting point is 01:30:45 Are you below? Whoa. Never mind. OK, you were, dude, what loading into the city. Oh, see you later, dude. I'm having like a real dream panic right now. What? Oh, I'm home.

Starting point is 01:31:04 Maybe the imp is gone now. Yeah. Check it. The imp still there. Oh, right. The dream imp. Yeah. You know. Dreaming. Are you here, imp? He is still there. What the fuck? This time he didn't come at you and you're going somewhere else. He's like, yeah, I'm still there.

Starting point is 01:31:24 OK. last ditch effort for Mathis to read this. There are seven different locations where the gray man can spawn. Chances of spawning is based on speculation. Happy Town, highest chance of spawning. Violence District, second highest chance of spawning. Kyoto, third highest chance of spawning. Temple Dojo, 50-50 chance of spawning Kyoto third highest chance of spawning temple Dojo 50 50 chance of spawning clockwork machines third lowest chance of spawning

Starting point is 01:31:50 Moonlight tower second lowest chance and then Monument Park lowest chance of spawning which must be where you're at now as in you must be in like Monument Park with all those like statues around they were saying that like changing it up a lot fucks fucks it up and makes the guy appear, right? So now I'm back at the pit Where's the pit at on the list? It's not on the list. Is it Monument Park? Monument Park is the lowest chance if that's where you're at. I'm leaving. Whoa, you're fast. I'm leaving

Starting point is 01:32:21 I only have like 15 seconds by my count, but I'm going to take one more minute for load times. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See, what would this be? Kyoto? Maybe. Maybe it looks very much like it just Japanese. They'll find a giant sculpture. Kyoto's third highest chance if that's what this is. Okay.

Starting point is 01:32:42 Shadow Man. Oh, shadow boy. If you can get yourself to happy town, that's the highest percent. I have no idea how to get there. I'm just sleeping. Do you know how to get to happy town? Are those the Buddhist? That's the Buddhist guys. Yeah, those are the same statues that link you back to the pit.

Starting point is 01:32:58 They'll just send you to the pit. Okay, so we don't want to go. What about if you look at the moon? Will that make you go anywhere? Nope. How do you even know that at the moon. Will that make you go anywhere? No. How do you even know that's the moon, Mathis? I just I took a guess. You just assumed me.

Starting point is 01:33:12 I am. You're right. Damn, dude. Yeah. How do you even know? Oh, that's that's Shinra. Oh, what is this an office building? Man, I feel like I could just do this for a whole episode. The mausoleum. Yeah, it's the fact do this for a whole episode. The mausoleum. Yeah, it's the fact that let's play.

Starting point is 01:33:27 I guess a mausoleum or wait, no, what is it? Oh, creaking noise. A big umbrella. What is that? Should I turn around and look? And what is that? What is that? Wait, what is that? Is that him? Oh, yeah, what's that?

Starting point is 01:33:40 Who is that? Is that the Boston Devil? Are you the minotaur? Oh, what is that? Car it the Boston Devil? Are you the minotaur? Oh, what is that? Carrying a brick of something. OK, Rick Shaw. Is this a good finale? Where is he going to put me?

Starting point is 01:33:53 Linking with the cartless Minotaur's tends to reposition you in Kyoto. Not this time. And linking with all carded Minotaur's the natural worlds were in the natural world. OK, natural world. Not on the list is where he doesn't come.

Starting point is 01:34:06 All right. Well, this was LSD Dream Emulator. The Shadow Man is still out there. You know, just like any urban legend, you never know if you're going to see him or not. Probably not. But the fact that he's out there is exciting. It is exciting.

Starting point is 01:34:21 This is available out there. This is a fan translation that's out there. But obviously, it's an old game and it requires a lot of effort to play. But thank you guys for joining us on this little journey through it. And yeah, that's the end of that segment. I just have a little bit more for you. One last letter from Mr. A. Whitney Brown here for Crendor to read.

Starting point is 01:34:42 Anyway, before I go, I'll tell you the most interesting thing I heard was about some faction of story group people splintering off with the idea of creating their own legends whole cloth over somewhere moronic like Ong's Hat, New Jersey. A link the packet I got handed on it is attached, but be warned, it is not a story group approved, so your safety and legend tripping it is not guaranteed. Dummy. Anyway, so yeah, now I'm off to investigate that before I kneel over and die working,

Starting point is 01:35:14 so expect they hear from me again sometime next year, but before he leaves, consider these final two quotes from the Kinsella about this splinters group's work, which will probably be the topic of my next report. Shit and piss, agent A. Whitney Brown. There you go. And he of course has two pieces of writing from this book. The subtitle of the book, Legend Tripping Online is supernatural folklore and the search for Ong's hat. And these two quotes have something to do with that.

Starting point is 01:35:44 And he said he'll be back with more of that next year. Interestingly, interestingly, that's for Jesse to read. This work I provide an ethnography of online legend tripping performances surrounding two enigmatic documents collectively called the ink. In Kona ink, ink, ink, ink, ink, ink, ink, ink, ink, ink, ink, ink, ink, called the Incunabula papers. Anonymously written, the Incunabula papers present a series of past accounts blurring together factual and fictional information with various elements of supernaturalism. They are transmitted through the virtual equivalent of word of mouth and prompt much debate. Since there is no consensus as to what these documents really are, although

Starting point is 01:36:34 they may seem different from other kinds of supernatural legends, people with contact with the ink and ball of papers and the communicative performances surrounding them constitute a legend complex. the ink ball of papers and the communicative performances surrounding them constitute a legend. Yep. And if you want to know more about what ink nebula means, here's Mathis and some more on that. Ink nebula is a term that generally refers to artifacts of any of an early period,

Starting point is 01:36:57 particularly books printed before 1501. Its literal meaning is cradle. And the word itself denotes the earliest stages or traces of anything. The Incunabula papers are arguably the first immersive online legend complex that introduced readers to a host of content, including what religious historian Robert Elwood has called the alternative reality tradition, which are those customs and beliefs that involve seeking out metaphysical or occult knowledge and experiences. Yeah, so imagine an alternate reality game with the goal of creating fake urban legends.

Starting point is 01:37:34 Interesting. And something that we will probably revisit again. But before we go, one last thing. You didn't think you were going to get out of this part, right? It's the Burmese poison test all play. After I made you guys buy all that stuff? Great, and I'm reading this straight out of my script. I'm excited about it too, you guys. This one's going to be an all play based on a famous meme poster that's been floating around the internet for many years, supposedly out of Myanmar or Burma, whatever makes your heart happiest.

Starting point is 01:38:05 Obviously the political situation in that beautiful place is complicated and sad. But something that unites pretty much everyone in the country is their knowledge of this meme which features poorly translated English and is rather hilariously titled, The Food That Shouldn't Eat Together. Have you guys seen this? Do you know the food that shouldn't eat together? No. I don't know what this is. That's this right here. Have a look at this. So according to this 2018 Vice article that I'll link in the show notes, even though it's kind of a folksy type

Starting point is 01:38:35 of wisdom that governs this poster, variations on them are pretty common site and kitchens across the country and sort of widely known cultural meme, if not always taken the most seriously by every single person who has one. So why don't you tell everybody what this thing looks like real quick. It's literally just a fucking grid of two pictures of food. And then above it, it'll says what horrible thing will happen. The first one is beat a pomelo and a lime together. Dead. You durian fruit in gentle bean vomit and then dead. Durian fruit and jinkle bean, vomit, and then dead. Yeah. Star fruit and chocolate, just dead. Yeah. So here's a quote from the article about it, where they interviewed

Starting point is 01:39:13 the founder of the restaurant sharkies in Yangon, which is Yee Toot Win. And he just has this to say about it. This for Jesse to read here. He said that Myanmar's geographic position wedge between China, the Indian subcontinent, and the rest of Southeast Asia means that the country is influenced by lots of ancient ways and philosophies, surrounding food from across the region. As an example, he said that the Chinese philosophy of yin foods and yang foods is knowingly and unknowingly applied locally.

Starting point is 01:39:46 One time I ordered a chicken and bitter gourd curry for lunch. Storekeeper warned me that these two dishes would bring death. I ate them both. I'm still alive. Yay, what win? Boy, I hope that's how you say that. Um, added that a few individual ingredients surrounded shrouded. The superstition are sometimes culprits of food poisoning and or food allergies.

Starting point is 01:40:11 This is Jerry products, pork and mushrooms. Maybe why there's an alarmist attitude around them, but even still, most of the beliefs are old wives tales. Uh, yeah, what when, uh, again, boy, I know that's not how you really said that dead with the laugh. We need myth busters to come visit. So yeah, get your little food combos ready and we're going to go straight down the line.

Starting point is 01:40:35 First, I just want to say for the record, by the way, what combo am I supposed to have? Don't worry. You already got, you already took care of you. Alex Fossiani made me go to a grocery store and buy a cucumber and popsicles. Yes. And that was it. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:40:50 I need you all to understand. I, he also wanted me to get a coconut, but I just went and got frozen yogurt for lunch and then I had them give me a little cup of coconut cause I'm no fool. Perfect. But what I'm saying is I bought two very phallic things and it's so LA, no one questioned it. Yeah, perfect. So Jesse is going to first demonstrate the combination of cucumbers and popsicles, which can lead you to acute asthma if you consume them together.

Starting point is 01:41:19 So Jesse, cucumber and a little bop of a popsicle. Ooh, you know what? Cucumber fresh cucumber has, has that good smell. I love fresh cucumber. It smells like a spa up in here right now. Yeah. Okay. You come to this crunchy water. Does it matter how I do this?

Starting point is 01:41:37 You just, I just want after the other. Also, I'm going to sexually eat this popsicle the rest of the episode. That's fine with me. That's fine with me. Okay. eat this popsicle the rest of the episode. That's fine with me. That's fine with me. Okay.

Starting point is 01:41:48 By the way, I got sour popsicles. There's that's awesome. Do I bite it? Do I suck it? What do I do? You, you, you did it. Now you just have a hops and now have a cucumber. Okay.

Starting point is 01:42:00 Give me a little time to marinate. You have asthma. It's happening. Are you getting acute asthma? Oh man. He's getting it. He's getting asthma. No, he's fine. Does it feel weird at all? Do you feel any sort of weird interaction between them at all? No, I mean, the sour popsicle probably was a mistake because it made the cucumber taste weird, but like, no, it's fine. Yeah. I mean, but that's fine. The taste isn't what we're after. Watch out, you're going to get choked out by the black, but they am any second.

Starting point is 01:42:29 Yeah. She's coming for me. Maybe that's what I want. So second, we'll go to Mathis. If she's like Lady D, I'm fine with that. That's fine with me too. Mathis already ate his food this morning. So in the video.

Starting point is 01:42:37 Oh, that's right. Yeah. So yeah. So in the video episode, we can play that clip Yeah, so yeah, yeah. So in the video episode, we can play that clip for the people now, which we'll do right now. I'm in the middle of a news report fund. They're breaching all this time my entire life

Starting point is 01:42:54 without me knowing it at elevators and at a secret place where they speak. They don't tell us about news passports. That's a different period of your life, so I just go in there, then fire it here, get ready, then what? This was at a VEDA. I felt crazy. But the reason I had him eat this combination of foods, which was plum and green peas by the way, was to see if a few hours later it would lead to what it said it was going to lead to, which was diarrhea.

Starting point is 01:43:26 So math is... I may have not eaten green peas and ate green beans. You ate green beans in plums? Yeah. Okay, so you didn't have green peas? I read green beans, I did not read green peas, my bruh. That's fair enough. There's peas in there, right? Like it's the same thing.

Starting point is 01:43:40 Did you have diarrhea? No. No? Do you usually have diarrhea? No. No. Do you usually have diarrhea? Uh, you know, not, not, not, not often, but sometimes. Okay. So you would recognize it if you saw it. Oh yeah. I would recognize what diarrhea. Okay. So guys, in case someone's delicious this morning though, I will say, having like a, just a, just eating a plum is nice. I saw you go back. I saw in the video,

Starting point is 01:44:04 you went back for another little hit of the plum after you had it. Yeah, it was good. So just in case anybody was wondering, even though it's not on the Burmese poison test, if you have plumbing green peas, you're pretty good. You're pretty safe from diarrhea. Just so you guys know. Um, third, for the main event, we have the Cox and Crendor reprise, please buy tickets to see us in Chicago on November 1st at Lincoln hall. Now link in the description. And today these two Titans are now going to test our

Starting point is 01:44:30 two food combinations that lead to death. The brave Crendor will be in. Why is all of the ones that could possibly kill us at some point. You gotta be careful. You gotta be careful. That's all it is. You know what? Yeah. Before we die, there's one last thing I want to say. Thank God for popsicle jokes. Um, Oh, good. What kind of bird is always had what kind of sad bird, a blue bird. Basically. Yeah. Like that's like the second draft of your, your answer. That's pretty solid. Uh, yeah. Okay. So firstly, the brave Cranedor will be ingesting the poison that is lemon and milk.

Starting point is 01:45:06 And then the rake, Jesse Cox, will consume the toxin produced by the interaction between the disgusting mixture of coconut and honey. Oh no. Gentlemen. That's weird. Not coconut and honey. Oh, that doesn't sound fucking delicious

Starting point is 01:45:19 or anything together. We're gonna do the lemon milk one, because I already got the milk from earlier. Very solid, and you get, it's a nice little hit of protein. Gentlemen, it to do the lemon milk one. Sorry. You got the milk from earlier. Very solid. And you get a nice little hit of protein. Gentlemen, it's been a pleasure knowing you. Please legend trip to your deaths. I'm ready to go whenever you give the word.

Starting point is 01:45:32 Shoot in there. Oh, he's doing it. So go for it. He had a seed in there. I got a spoonful of honey and put coconut on top of it. Three, two, one jam. He's eating it. Yep.

Starting point is 01:45:44 He's enjoying it. Oh good. I might it. Yeah. He's enjoying. Oh, good. I might die. Yeah. Delicious. Joy. Mathis. Mathis, do you feel like either of these guys looks like they're about to die? Looking at them both?

Starting point is 01:45:53 Yeah. I still look like I'm closer to death than they are. Yeah. Craner, how you feeling? Honestly, not too bad. Yeah. I can definitely tell that the reason they did it is I read and they said the milk curdles because of the acid.

Starting point is 01:46:12 Yeah. And actually felt that curdling a bit in my mouth. I get that. Yeah. One time I had a shot called a cement mixer that has used that principle. Oh, it's disgusting. It's disgusting. So what is the, why would honey and coconut kill you?

Starting point is 01:46:25 Too good. I can't tell you the amount of times I've had yogurt with both coconut and granola and honey in it. Too good. Like what's the deal there? It's too delicious. It's just, if you're in Myanmar, it's bad for you. Like you just can't, I, there's probably some sort of cultural reason.

Starting point is 01:46:39 There's probably some like obvious reason why it's included, but I don't know it. It's hard to, it's hard to get a straight answer. Like when I look online, there are a hundred million reasons why. And most of the time it's just because somebody had a coconut allergy or a honey allergy and associated. I'm mixing in the cucumber for maximum death. That's just good. That just sounds like it would be good.

Starting point is 01:47:00 I have an asthma attack while you're dying. And so with that, so ends another Chaluminati episode. Thank you guys so much for watching I'm doing weird NES tripping on the mini so don't miss that Don't forget what agent a Whitney Brown said at the beginning of the episode crendor. Thank you so much for coming, dude What should people check out if they want to catch some more of the smoke? Oh Man, you should definitely check out twitch TV, Crendor, YouTube, Crendor, YouTube, Cox and Crendor podcast. All one word.

Starting point is 01:47:30 That's a good stuff. Very good stuff. Just, you know, type in our names. All the basics. Great. So that's our show. Thanks for being here. Thanks for watching.

Starting point is 01:47:39 Thanks for listening. Mathis, get us the fuck out of here. Goodbye, everybody. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the Trilluminati podcast. Math is getting us the fuck out of here. Two, one. Terrence Hill and Bud Spencer. No. Neo and Trinity. No. I don't understand and I probably never will. Let me just tell you right now that there's two. Leon Kennedy and Claire Redfield.

Starting point is 01:48:17 I'm telling you, I think he literally just looked up famous duos. Cheech and Chow. And it's just been going through the list ever since. I'm trying to dig deep. Which one of you is Dick Powell? Me? Your name's Jesse Cox! I want your lunatic.

Starting point is 01:48:35 I want my my necklace. I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic.

Starting point is 01:48:43 I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic. I want your lunatic. I want your lucidity I want my my vagin' I want your lucidity I want my my vagin' I want your lucidity Hello everybody, welcome back to the Jaluminati Podcast. As always, I'm one of your hosts, Mike Marhen, joined by Alex and Jesse. Like a shooting star across the sky that's actually a UFO. Thanks for watching!

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Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 306: Legend Tripping with Crendor

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