Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 313: Chilluminati Live Call-In Special!

Episode Date: September 1, 2025

For LA Month, Mathas is in town and we're doing a Coast-to-Coast AM-style Live Call-In Radio Show Special with our listeners and special guests Let's Get Haunted and Spooky Foodie! MERCH - http://www.theyetee.com/collections/chilluminati Order your spiffy new TOP SECRET stickers early on Patreon! HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD (http://patreon.com/CHILLUMINATIPOD)  Cast: Let's Get Haunted - https://www.youtube.com/c/letsgethaunted Spooky Foodie - https://linktr.ee/spookyfoodie Mike Martin - https://bsky.app/profile/mathas.bsky.social Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Show art by - https://twitter.com/JetpackBraggin http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro

Hello, everybody. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the Chuluminati podcast, a very special episode, live from L.A. I have, of course, one of your host, Mike Martin. But today joined by, I would say one of my best friends in L.A., but I'm in L.A. We're in L.A. We're here. We're actually here. And Jesse. Hey, Jesse, what's up?

Welcome. Yay. Yay. Actually, if you believe in aliens. So he's here. Whoa. No, we are live. We are in Los Angeles.

It is Los Angeles month. It feels good to be in Los Angeles. It's actually the weather is not fucking horrible today. We got a lot of, we got a lot of surprise. is in store for you guys. We've got a lot of stuff going on. Um, but yeah, we're live in the studio. We're trying this out. We're going to have live callers. And just to give you guys a little, uh, instruction before we get started today. If you're listening live on air, uh, Jesse'll be here in Justin. Yeah, Jesse's on the way. Yeah. Uh, he flew in from PACs west and he's like coming from

airport to here. He interviewed YoshiP yesterday in at PACs and is now back. Yeah. He's been in transit, he's going to arrive in Los Angeles by sitting in that chair. Yep. So he'll be here shortly. It's very L.A. of him to have a, have a good book a gig like this. But how is the chat doing? It's pretty good. I'm glad to see you guys. I love that people have shown up. It feels really good. Thank you for joining us live in the in the Chaluminati studios. Yes. Look at this. We've got some guests for you today. We've got some announcements for you today. And we're only about halfway through or so L.A. Month. Like, we're not, this is not the finale by any means. So it's pretty exciting. I feel like L.A. Month never ends.

Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't. It's, like, for me, I'm always in L.A. I know. If you think about it. Um, but, uh, it's, it's great. We'll hopefully be talking to some of you guys. Uh, at the top of these episodes, I've been sort of like, uh, making, taking a second to do some announcements about L.A. Month. As you know, L. L.A. Month is just, about honoring LA. It's a creepy weird city. We've got all kinds of crazy surprises and stuff. But it's going to be fun. This month, we have been working really hard. We're trying to launch a new product. And what we wanted to do with this product is, and maybe you guys have noticed that we've been working with our house artist, Studio Melectro now a lot closer

with our branding. You guys can see that cool stuff. There's, you know, right there, where taped on the window in front of us there. Oh, yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, you can see some art of hers and all the, all the beautiful branding, and it's really cool. We've been a lot more artist forward this year, and as part of that, we also wanted to, you know, give them a way to support themselves. So, Mel, first of all, Studio Melectro, if you like her shit, you can go on Instagram or follow the link in this video or in the show notes if you're listening. to this after the fact, and you can check it out. She has a version of the rat fink where I'm, I'm the rat fink and I have big ass titties.

Yeah, of course you do. It's part of the L.A. It's part of the whole L.A. thing. If you guys want to, um... I personally improved that drawing last night in your bathroom. All of the money goes right to her. It's just to support her. So you can go buy a shirt with that cool design on it.

And we are launching a new product line called the Chluminati Office of Stamps and Stickers. And what that's all about is getting an artist Featuring their art on giant stickers That are top secret Based on episode of their choice And I'm working directly with the artists And like kind of

You know, going back and forth And trying to do something that like really showcases them Shows off our stuff And we're splitting the money with the artist Half half on it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's not like Thank you for your art now. We'll make money off of it Yeah, so that's all going to be in the the Yeti store.

The artist, I said I was going to announce the artist is it's Doris Doodles. Yeah, Doris doodles a while back at a video game convention. Was it here in L.A.? It was either here or it was in Indianapolis. It might have been Indianapolis. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a great artist. You can check out Dorie's doodles on Instagram.

That's one of the greatest parts about doing the show is we find how many more people are more talented than us and showcase them. Oh yeah. Hell yeah. And it's it's great stuff. It's going to go live for everyone on the first, but if you are on patreon.com slash Tulumati pod, you will get a little sometime in the next, before that, you will get a little link early so you guys can buy it as well.

And like I said the last couple times, Mathis has gone in and now there's the main tier is just a $15 tier. No more weird, slightly incrementally more expensive things. Forget about that. No six tiers of options. Yeah. You get the $5 ad free tier straight up. And if you want any of the X amount.

Rotten Popcorn, video episodes, all that stuff. It's all in the $15 tier right there. You get all the people who were part of the $15 tier and weren't part of the $20 tier now have like 10 rotten popcorns they can listen to. Absolutely just like a ton of stuff to go check out. So that's amazing. I think our boys has just arrived at the studio, which is awesome. We have some amazing guests today, you guys.

Friken Let's Get Haunted is back today. That's a great guest that we're going to see in just a minute. Spooky Foodie is here. We've never had her on before, but she's like an L.A. legend. Ladies and gentlemen, uh, don't, don't,

don't, don't, don't, shove it. But, uh, shove it. Yeah,

ladies and gentlemen, Jesse Cox has arrived at the Chaluminae HQ. Uh, welcome back. Welcome, welcome. Hi, everyone.

Hey, uh, we are here live. I was just telling them, sit, yeah, this is so funny that I get the, the absolute trash.

You don't get the trash. Look at these headphones. They're better, they're better. They're great. They're great headphones. There are colors on that leather that should not exist on... Look at this chair.

Isn't this your equipment? Replace it. This isn't mine. This is Maury's and he probably listens to porn while he wants you. Alex said that you would particularly want the pink headphones, so I gave you the pink headphones. I have numerous headphones. Ask your employee, Alex. Yeah.

Alex is barely important. Hilarious. I live here on the weekend. Okay. I feel betrayed. So we are here, we are out here, we're gonna, we're like, I've just been telling everybody, we got great guests today. Our stickers are going live, Patreon.com slash Chulminati pod. Are we in a three-person window?

Yeah. So let's, so let's, we're inside a recording studio at Chilomani headquarters, man. Oh, right, right, right. This is, hello. Hibonati studios, dude. So like I said, call on in. We're going to take a call right now. We're going to take one from, uh, Tink, Tink.

Get those sexy headphones on that. So let's, let's call, let's call, let's call Tink, into the chat. right now, they want to talk about a dream that they've had. Tink, Tink, are you live? Can you hear us? Are you with us? Tink. Oh, wow. Hang on. Oh, I hear you. Yeah. Wait, oh, you guys hear stuff? Yeah. Oh, that's cool. Oh, you don't hear a voice. I'll hear anything. You are on the Chulminati podcast. Can you not hear them? Oh, hang on. No, I can hear you guys. Hey, now I hear you. Yeah, Alex, I do not hear them. Yeah, yeah, you gave it to them and now I don't have them. Is it? I don't know why these headphones are so finicky.

but it should be good. Tink, Tink, I want to hear about your dream. So let's talk about it. Let's get into it. Oh, man, I've been meaning to share this for like years now. But let me just like organize my thoughts here. Zach, no worries. Jesse's mind.

Okay, so it's kind of like in two parts. The first was like a video game. And like intrinsically I knew that I wasn't myself, that I was like a buff dude, a buff white dude named Barack Obama, who was really good to killing zombies. We love that. That's, yeah, they could be a book record. Yeah.

And like, I was looking at some zombie through this, like, containment thing. He was, like, staring at me through a porthole. And it was, like, this giant monkey thing. Okay. Okay. And there's, like, this facility voice that's telling me, oh, this guy's named Mia Moser. And he's a zombie Okay

Okay And I like know Because I'm really good at killing zombies That this guy's gonna break out So I like turn around I go through some vent And I like slide down it And there's already an outbreak in the lab

You know people are zombies And then I don't remember what happens next But like there's kind of like a cut To the second part And it's like a movie at this point. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're not really straight up on me.

The viewer, you're like a camera now, right? Yeah. Yeah, basically. Yeah, it's, and I swear to God it was like letterbox or something. Like, you know, they had the black bars at the bottom of the top of the screen. I think that's letterboxing. Yeah, yeah, that's letterboxing. Yeah, okay, okay.

I think. Um, see, you, you, oh, man, okay. So this like, yeah, basically, the scientist dude is, like running around a lab and I think he's trying to get like a cure together okay and uh again the same facility voice is overhead and he

it's saying like hey mea Moser's going to be here in like five seconds you think that's what like Nintendo like when their games are almost done and Miyamoto's on his way yeah mea Moser he's like that's what he is in his angry he has a metal skeleton inside his body yeah Mozer

mea Moser no he's just like a giant zombie monkey you love to see it So let's let's talk about this. We have a lot of different imagery here. Jesse, you're the dream interpreter. Oh, I got nothing. Wait, wait. It's not done.

It's not done. We're still going. Okay. I'm still going. Yeah, sorry. No, no, no. Yeah, so me and Moser like bursts out into the lab from under the ground. And like, dude, like a deer goes flying across the screen and a gorilla runs by.

I don't know why. It's like a Dreamcast spin-off of a Resident Evil franchise. Like Code Veronica, like Code Mozer. Code Moeser, code Mia Moser. That's great. And the camera like pans over to the entrance of the lab. And it's like this big baboon wearing kind of like the armor that Winston has in Overwatch.

And he's got like a warhammer. And he's like, Mia Moser, you've got to stop but he doesn't know that me and Moses is like a zombie. So Mia Moser like punches him and he goes flying

and it's another jump cut to this aerial shot like jump cut to an aerial is so good. Yeah. And big baboon flies through like two pillars and the bridge falls on top of them. So I guess he'll like dies or something

and then it pans over yeah exactly and like this hole opens in the ground like like a door hole like a circular hole

whatever and a rocket ship flies out and the camera keeps zooming out until it comes out like an old-timey TV set and it like it pans into my body

sitting on the couch and to like the right of me my grandma is sitting on the couch and she stands up and against clap and says that was a good show oh shit my monitor and that's it that's it there worries about your monitor is you was your monitor part of the dream did you know it just it went to sleep because I wasn't incredible I was just talking okay so we have zombie we have containment facility we have for the the story by there's Yeah, there's, there's some, there's some, uh, some action sequences. We go to a camera at some point.

We have the bridge collapsing on Mia Moser, right? And, and, and we also, it was big baboon. Oh, yeah, the big baboon, the monkey, the big giant monkey. Yes. You get punched out and then the monkey chase sequence and then the bridge falls on the monkey. And then, like, big baboon is punched out and the bridge falls on top of it. I see. I see. And Jesse's dream interpretation is pizza before dinner.

Yeah, very, very man of steel. very man of steel i i uh i feel like i feel like maybe you i feel like maybe because you're not in the dream yourself really that much like you're just kind of viewing it right i feel like maybe everything that's happening is kind of like pieces of who you are you know like i feel like you're getting a lot of like you're getting a lot of like i'm inside there's like a lot of like repressed rage and like animalistic energy i feel like maybe the big baboon is up there i feel like maybe the big bag baboon is a part of you that's that's that's that's that's that's heightened and and and and wants to get out and maybe your body is telling you you know maybe mea mozer or you know

maybe i don't know maybe it's just telling you like you need to you need to lock that down you need to punch it into a bridge uh i'm watching i'm enjoying watching you like really work on trying to figure out what this means and then maybe at the end because you go back to your grandma maybe that's how you that's how your family you know maybe you'll become the maybe you'll become the next leader of your family, you know, like the matriarch passes on and now that you've mastered your emotions, right? You're now the- What you got from that? Was that? Yeah, I think you just played a lot of memories all it in like Hideo Kojima games and now it's just too much. What are you talking about? I'm just saying, I'm just saying. I think that's what it is. I appreciate it feels pretty good

to me. It feels pretty good to me. I'll, I'll say yes. Yes, sure. That sounds exactly like it. Thank you. Something to think on. Tink, thank you so much for your call. We're going to take one more call right now from Austin Gould, who is going to be talking about the men in black. Austin, how are you doing, my man? I'm good. How are you guys doing? Can you guys hear me okay? Oh, yeah, we got you.

You're on live at Just One Coast. Welcome to the Chalubidati, L.A. Bud's College Show. So talk to us about the men in black. How's it going? Please tell me about your men in black. Oh, it's great. I'm sorry, I was a little behind on the screen, but it was great to talk to you guys. I've been listening since episode one, so it's super cool.

Thank you for listening. That's awesome. Yeah. So the Man Black story is from a couple of years back when I lived in Illinois. I live out in the P&W now. But what happened was I was going to house it for like a close relative of mine. And someone was at the house a little before me, just like, you know, I watched it before I got there. And they were taking a bath.

And the way that house was set up is that like there was like a small window. You could look out and you could see the front door. and they were taking a bath and all of it's like a guy in a black pickup truck rolled up and he got out and he was wearing a black suit and he was bald and I didn't get like a question

but do you seem tall? They said he was at like average height. I also know that they're supposed to be like tail but I like didn't get that but he was like violently trying to get in the house he was like banging on the door screaming to be let in. He was like

just like repeatedly bang on the door and the person was in the tub is like a no-nonsense person though they would usually handle that themselves but they were so scared they didn't get out of the tub and they stayed there for like an hour

after the guy left and then they were like can we get more people in the house so we can like get this taken care of like just so someone's here and everyone who lived in the house was like I have no idea who that could have been like there's no one that

matches that description that we know of like that would be coming to the door, that would be in that kind of truck. And so, yeah, it was just like one of those things where, like, a guy in a black suit was trying to get into a house for some reason. No one knows who could have been or why. And then the funny part of the story, I'll preface it, that, like, this was all real, like, and it did happen, but me and my wife were staying at the house, and my wife was spooked because of just, like, the level of violence that the person was trying to get in.

and I was like, it's all right. I was taking a shower and she came and got me and she was like, someone's trying to get in the garage door. And I was like, what? And it was the same day. And I was like, what? And so I'd get out of the shower and I just like, pull my shorts on. And I'm like looking at the garage door and I can see the door handle move.

Like it's like jiggling. Yeah, yeah. That's scared the shit out of me. Holy crumb. And I was like, I, I, I, I, I'm like up on the Jesse side of things where I'm like there's got to be a logical explanation for most things

and so I was sitting there in the hallway with my wife behind me and I was like there has to be a logical explanation for this. I was like on the off chance there isn't have 9-1-1 pulled up on your phone. I'm going to go open the garage door and see what's in there.

Yeah, dude. That's what Jesse would do do I feel like. And so I had to pull him out of one. No? I would accept my death. Bald man and suit shows up at my house? Yeah, no barcode on the back of the neck, but he's got, like, no lips. We don't have that information. He wants sugar water. You don't have that information.

He could dress up like a, I don't know, like a mascot. Yeah. But then my question is, why would somebody want you dead, Jesse? What do you know? Why would someone want our collar dead? Very good question. Well, that's my next question. Did you ever see anything?

Did any weird sightings in the sky precede this visit? You know, it's like, I grew up in like cornfield. And so it was just like, you know, I used to work on the airport, too. And so, like, we had, like, a lot of those sightings, but, like, there's also military bases all around. And so it's, like, it has to be able to, like, know what's what. But, you know, I went when I, the garage door thing was happening, I went and I opened it, and we had just, like, left our cat in the garage and she was, like, trying to get in. But, like, you just get so scared when, like, something weird happens that your brain

just starts playing tricks on you. And we never found out who that guy was or, like, what he wanted? Huh? Never came back? Never happened again, huh? No, we never, there was nothing. There was, like, no follow-up. The best we got is, like, we thought it was, like, somebody, like, got the wrong address.

Like, we couldn't, like, really couldn't figure anything out. That's, like, a classic men and, like, the only thing missing from that story from a classic men and black story is an interaction where they're weirdly almost human. They kind of, like, talk to you normally, but their lips are, like, kind of missing and they have no eyebrows and they, like, have dry mouth and stuff, which is always kind of strange. This just sounds like some dude trying to break into your house. I mean, to be honest, I hope it was the men in black. Because if a door lock could stop them, I'm feeling pretty.

confident my safety. Yeah, yeah. The door lock can stop a men in black. If the men in black, they're like, you know what? Locks, dude. Well, remember, the Betty and Barney Hill abduction, they were fascinated with Betty Zipper. They were like, whoa, they didn't know what to do with it. Maybe. They would learn, all right, things open and closed. Gotcha.

Yeah, maybe. Okay. The men in black might be creations of the government, you know? Or they might not be real at all. That's also very true. Very also possible. Yeah. Guys, I just want to address this because I feel like I'm crazy. Jesse is Mike is not dead. He has levels.

It's registering on this thing. I can see that he's talking. I don't know why you can't hear him, but can you? I guarantee that when this. Hello, mutter. There's only one. There's only one. Hello, Fada.

Yeah, he's in. I want to turn that off, but it's recording because that's what happened last time. You can't change it while it's not while we're live. That is so dumb. You can like pause it, but yeah. Yeah, I don't know what that's, I don't know what that's about. So it might be cutting, like Riverside might be cutting him, which is what they're listening from. Yeah.

So I apologize for that. I don't know what to do about it. I don't think I can bring the stream down, right? I mean, you can't bring it back up if you want, but it's just up to you. Will that work? Is it worth it? Yeah, I got my mind, I'm struggling to come up with solutions. Yeah.

Why I'm wearing the worst pair of headphones. Because it matches your entire outfit. It's not using this, right? It matches your entire outfit perfectly. The top of this is going to stain this hat. That's how gross it. It is gross, like gross. Yeah.

Gross. All right, so you want me to bring down the entire stream? This is what we're doing, right? Okay, bye. Thank you so much to Hello Fresh for sponsoring today's episode. Hey, you know what? You might have heard of Hello Fresh. I don't know.

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out there in the wilderness right and uh there another show that does mysteries and hauntings and all kinds of cool stuff we've had them on the show before we talked about the ice walls then they taught me that i was like a closet of disney adult which i had no idea that's a lie the fact that you thought you were a closeted disney adult is what's crazy to me i don't know what to tell you, I just, I just, uh, spent time there. Yeah, I just, I just, I just, I know, I just, I know everything about it. I don't know, like, it's like when I was 12, I don't know why I bought a bunch of books about to Titanic, but I did. Uh, all right. Yeah. That doesn't make you, that makes you, that makes you a Titanic kid, not a Disney adult. Right. Exactly. Um, he tried to trick us. And he did

try. Yeah. I shouldn't have, I shouldn't have, I shouldn't have, I shouldn't have he tried to trick himself, I think is what the thing. He doesn't want to be one. Yeah. I shouldn't have brought the stream down. Um, let's, my prayer was answered. Okay, well, I guess it's working. I'm not shirt. Anyway, let's get haunted. Welcome to the damn show, guys. Hey, thanks so much for having us on. Hello. We're really stoked to be here. Can you hear us? A hundred percent. We can hear you. Hey, I'm in. I figured it out. Welcome. Yes. We're super stoked. So this is Ali and Nat. If you don't know, they have a great podcast that's, you know, similar sphere to us. But it's been a minute. It's been a minute since you guys have been on. So I thought it would be nice to ask.

like what's been going on with you guys like how what what kind of have you guys had anything crazy happened to you guys since uh since uh since uh we've last spoken in this in this what is it like a year or so we said yeah yeah it's been a long time i actually have something crazy that happened to me right before i joined this stream if i can share please please yeah okay so i i've been really sick lately i've had like some sort of sinus thing or whatever so i kind of like went to sleep for several days. And then I woke up today. And it was like my first day to get out of the house or whatever. And I see that there's like an estate sale going on somewhere in the vicinity. I don't know where it is. I just see all these signs. It's like a state sale this way. And like all these cars parked,

you know, for miles. And I'm like, this is insane. What is this? I've never been to an estate sale. So I'm like, what is this going to be? You know, I'm just going to go, whatever. I have my kid with me. And I'm like, hey, let's go to this thing. He's like, I don't want to go. And I'm like, well, maybe if there's a toy you like you can get it let's go and he's like okay fine so we park the car we like trudge up we go to this house it's he's set back in the woods i've never seen this house before and there are just like moving vans like people are taking stuff out of this house and i go in the house and i'm looking around and it is so creepy because this is like a situation where whoever lived there like passed away or something i don't know because it was like all their stuff was there and i'm going

through their clothes in their closet. And it's like all of these like designer shoes from like the 80s and stuff that are like falling apart. And I'm just getting super haunted vibes. And then I go into this one room. And it's like for a child, but it's like all these books from the 80s. Like whatever child was there was like a child in the 80s and then like left that room and never went back. And I find this one room that's like all these old books like antique books. Like we're talking like really, really old like encyclopedias from like. 50 years ago and stuff. And me being someone who wants my house to look like legit as hell, I was like, oh, I'm going to get these books because they're only like four dollars for this

vintage book. And if you were to go on like the resale market and try to buy these like vintage books, you know, like first edition, whatever, they would be hundreds of dollars. So I'm like, I'm right now everything's 50% off and it's $4 per each book. So I bought like literally like a hundred books and they're fucking sick ones like one of them was like Soviet, it was like photos from like Soviet Russia and like beautiful like coffee table book with like all

these really crazy photos of like Cold War era like space whatever and so I get all these books but then I'm putting them back into my house today and I just get like a really weird vibe all of a sudden I was thinking about it and I was like oh my God like

what if these books are haunted like awesome if they were Like their energy was already, because you already said it's like maybe they don't even have family because nobody took anything, right? Like it was like everything they ever owned, right? Yeah, everything. I mean, like every single thing they ever owned. And I know those books should not be for, the books that I got should not be $2 each, you know? Like I paid.

I underpaid for these things. And like, what if the spirits, I don't know. What if the spirits are like, fuck you in your library from Pinterest? Like those were our books. You know what I mean? 100%. I thought you're going to say what if the ghosts get really mad that

we only paid $2 for these books? We could have got $50 for that Russia book. What the hell? Capitalism carries on into death. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's my story.

Maybe I'm going to like, you know, burn a candle or something to get rid of it. But I was just wondering if anyone thinks I messed up by bringing these haunted books into my house. Oh, for sure. Yeah. For sure. But I'm a big fan of intentionally haunting yourself for the plot.

So I'm very excited. Yeah. Like, one time for Mathis's birthday, we bought him a doll, like a haunted doll that we, like, taped his mouth shut. And you taped his shot? No, the, no, the person on eBay was like, it speaks. So we covered its mouth. And like, it's the soul of, like, some murderer that, like, cut the brakes and killed. It's, no, it's a soul of a World War I vet who's very upset and he cuts people's breaks when they drive as long as he's in the car.

But not if you keep tape over his mouth. That's what you bought. me. So wait a minute. The implication here is that the spirit would connect to the physical object. Yeah. So in this case, uh, be it the books or be it a doll with its mouth taste shut, having the body, soul of a World War I. Yeah. Right. Whatever. Imagine imagine being a World War one thing getting your soul sold on me is your soul sold on eBay for 30 some odd dollars. Yeah. Like that's not. If I was stuck in a doll and sold on eBay, I'd be pissed. But if I was a ghost associated with books.

and my books were passed from a reader who clearly no longer read me to someone who may read me that's kind of good that's kind of good I'd be happy about that that's a good spin that feels kind of good to me when you die what object do you want to be attached to? Great question.

Flashlight. What? Flashlight? No? Only one? Not what I expected. Do you think a flashlight could be haunted and who do you think would be the one haunting it? If it's a flashlight modeled after someone famous with that face?

famous person haunted or would it be the owner that's a burden last guy to use it that's a burden they didn't think about it's dog and yeah that's got to be some tragic story wait the last guy to use it implies that multiple guys are using it like blockbuster video fleshlight yeah yeah haunted haunted eBay flashlight yeah yeah well speaking speaking of haunted eBay I started doing this thing this year for our show where I buy haunted objects off of eBay and then unbox them and in the attempt to get haunted. I'm really trying to get haunted. I've never seen a ghost, which is low-key embarrassing because I have a haunted show. So I'm really trying this year to do everything I can to hopefully see a ghost. And I just recently bought this doll house and it has the

worst vibes ever. Actually, I had to drive two hours to pick it up. I guess eBay has a setting where instead of them shipping it to you, you go to pick it up. But I did not know that. So I bought it, dropped 80 bucks on this haunted dollhouse, and then the guy was like, so when are you going to get it? And he lived two and a half hours from me. I had to take a bunch of toll roads. I don't know why. I just should have canceled the order.

But I went and got it, and it is literally the worst vibes. And I'm very excited. David Lynchian vibes. Yeah. It's so creepy. It's like falling apart. I guess it's from the 1970s. He said his aunt owned it and that he couldn't donate it because donate it.

because donating it doesn't get the ghost out of your house. You have to sell it. That's what he said. It has to be a transaction in order for the ghost to transfer to the next owner. That's a good movie script. Yeah, that's a good movie script. Capitalist idea. Capitalist, you can't just like, you know, like, why do they care about the sale?

Like, they're super obsessed with that. It made, it kind of validated capitalism for me, though, because then I was thinking about it. And I'm like, oh, so if you just donate something or give it away or you live in a society, like a bartering society, maybe you just stay haunted forever. Whereas at least we have the option to sell something to an idiot like me for 80 bucks and make them drive two and a half hours to get it. And then now you're not haunted anymore. Wait, is that why Burning Man is haunted because they don't have capitalism there? It's like just bartering. Is Burning Man known to be haunted?

I think so. The thing about Burning Man is, like, if anybody's crossing over into the ghost realm, it's the fucking Burning Man people, right? Like, they're probably just, like, tripping on LSD and acid and, like, walking into the ghost realm. They're just like, wow, this is awesome. Look at all these installations. But all I'm saying is, if I fucking die and I find out that I have to get a job and that there's, like, corporations in Ghost World, I'm going to, I'm going to alive. myself. I'm going to align myself. I'm going to be incarnating. I'm going to give birth to myself. Good God. We've got some other hauntings if you guys want. We had actually prepared two super short

sleep paralysis stories for you guys. And it kind of seems to go along with the theme of your callers so far, at least the first one, because the first one was about a dream. And some people think that sleep paralysis is just your dreams bleeding into your waking moments. So maybe this is a good opportunity to share these. Because like I said, I've never seen a good. ghost. It's embarrassing. I want to see one so bad and I think that's why they won't appear to me. It's like when you're single and you really want to be with someone, but everyone can smell the desperation on you. I think that's what's going on. I'm desperate to be haunted. And so they won't do it. But the one time I saw something kind of creepy, I had woken up from a deep slumber,

but I was definitely awake. I was not paralyzed or frozen. I was moving around. But I looked into the corner of my bedroom and I saw this giant floating eye and it wasn't an eye like a human eye. It was almost like a drawing of an eye made with black ink. What was that? Like Sauron? Like a giant evil eye? Great guess. So later I looked it up. I was Googling all of these different eye drawings and it looks exactly like the eye of Horace. Okay. Oh. Okay. And it was just floating in the corner of my room and I was looking at it and I'm laying there in bed and I'm like, okay, well, what do I do? You know, like, there's nothing to do.

You can't call 911 on a sleep paralysis demon. That's a huge sleep paralysis. Like, usually it's like a dude with a mustache in the corner like that I can't quite see, but the eye of Horace is like, I mean, the devil himself is in your bedroom while you're sleeping. That's crazy. I don't know. That's the eye of horace.

You could, you could have been a, like, I don't know, God. queen yeah maybe years ago maybe maybe hey that would be great yeah that would be wonderful if I learned that divinity that's not horror that's like I've been chosen beauty I wish at in the moment I was just like there's nothing I can do and so I stared at it for a little bit and it was bobbing up and down in the corner of my bedroom just bobbing up and down and then I flipped over and I went back to sleep because I was like well if it's something dangerous it can get me no matter what I can't really call the police. There's nothing to do so I just went back to bed. That's my

sleep paralysis story. That's an extremely calm reaction. Very cool headed. Usually I'm like I'm getting, somebody's touching me. That I was super embarrassed after that. It was like yeah, I bounced around. I tried everything I could. She just literally rolled over and went to sleep, y'all. I just I lost it. I should have manifested with arms, dude.

I swear. I don't never scare anyone. That's funny. That house was hella haunted, though, and my neighbor's house ended up burning down a couple of nights after that. So then I was sort of wondering, could it be like the Eye of Horace was warning me about this impending fire? The neighbor's car spontaneously combusted. They never figured out what happened to it. It just all of a sudden went up in flames. I actually have pictures of it.

We talked about it on our show. And it lit their garage on fire first. And I was laying in beds. This was a few nights after the Eye of Horace. incident and I'm staring at my backyard through the window and I see this orange flickering light reflecting off of one of the trees and I was looking at it for a while and I was like I can't figure out what this is maybe my neighbor's having a bonfire or something oh my god and then yeah and then I got up and I looked out the front window and I saw that there was a neighbor coming out of their

house pointing and screaming and so then I went outside and their house was just in flames. Holy shit. How close? Two doors down. Oh my God. That is crazy. It was pretty wild.

So I don't know if those two things are related or if it was just a very haunted bad vibes neighborhood. He just fucked up and he was like, you're going to pay for this. Where did she live? I don't exactly remember somewhere around. Somewhere around here. I don't have depth perception. I don't have depth perception.

No. Oh my God. What if he was trying to appear to the neighbor? and just fucked up royally. Her house is about to burn down. He's like an accidently being like a weird pervert watching you sleep. This is the wrong house. How do I get out of here?

That's why he was bombing up and down. He was trying to leave, but he couldn't figure out how. He was trying to do like cosmic map quest where you put in the date that you want to appear somewhere instead of the location or instead of just the location and just missed it by a couple days and by two houses. Outrageous. outrageous I have horse

has a really good yeah really good sleep paralysis I have a couple which one should I share should I share the one from the scary horse thing

the old person the Florida one or the Florida motel okay all of those sound whoa wait wait whoa I'm already

ruling this I was being real haunting because it's Florida and I assume it was a real person doing whatever this was that's how it feels in LA too

so yeah yeah Basically what happened is I was going to Florida for like this horse thing and I was driving there from Atlanta. So it was like a nine hour drive or something. And I was super, you know, like pent up on Celsius like energy drink just fucking driving my truck. I'm like, I'm not going to stop. I'm going to just piss in a can and keep going. Like, you know, I just needed to get there.

That's what you need is some chill energy down to come back. Tunnel vision. So I get to the hotel. and I'm staying in, what was it like a La Quinta or like a fair, no, it was a fair field. Yeah, it was like just not a haunted, cool, like a vibey vintage hotel. Like it was like a corporate team hotel. Yeah. Yes, exactly.

Youth soccer team hotel. So I get there that night and I'm laying in the bed and it's, I don't know, maybe like 10 or 11 p.m. All the lights are off. and it's me, my, like, three-year-old at the time, I think, and my husband is on the other side. So there's, like, three people in this bed. And I'm just sort of, like, drifting off or, like, trying to sleep, but I can't because I'm, like, super piped up on these, like, Celsius. And all of a sudden, I see someone standing right to my right side.

Like, it's, like, someone is standing there. And I look over, and I'm, like, expecting them, you know, I'm expecting something to happen. Like, okay, like, is this just a vision? I'm having because how did this person get into the room and I'm looking at them and as I'm looking at them like I'm realizing that like no this is not like a shadow this is like an actual person and it looked like have you ever seen the movie blow yeah with Johnny's app you know at the end when they they show like the real dude like the real blow guy's face and he's like all like fucked up and he you know it's like really blow it literally looked like that like it looks like someone who was like super bloated and they were like a corpse like but like their face was like all I don't know and they were there and I'm looking at them and as I'm looking at them I'm thinking myself like oh my god is this a ghost am I seeing a ghost right now and as soon as I had that thought the thing looked at me and it was like nodding its head yes like you're seeing a ghost with its little finger like like doing this like little weird

pointer finger like yeah you're seeing a ghost and so I scream like ah like that And my husband looks at me and he's like, what the fuck are you doing? Because we just got our three-year-old to go to sleep in the three-year-olds, like, in between us. And so I know it was happening like IRL, right? Because, like, if it was a dream and I screamed in the dream, he wouldn't have heard me. Yeah, no, I really screamed. This was like something that was happening. I don't know if it was like an overlay, like if you put a PNG on your life, you know?

Like, I don't know if it was like an overlay. onto my life or if i was like dreaming but whatever happened was actually physically happening because my husband was conscious when you screamed yeah yeah yeah so at the worst it was at the worst it was sleep paralysis but at the best you were at burning man walking between the realms and maybe you stepped on some kind of needle in florida that went into your foot and gave you a psychedelic dream yeah i mean i don't know like do you get ghosts at a fairfield end like do you get ghosts like, you know, Chase Bank. Yes.

100%. That's what people always ask. That's what people. That's what. Hell. Like people who don't die in Florida, but are bad people who get sent to Florida as ghosts. People always say, people always say, like, why don't ghosts wear, like, modern clothes and stuff like that?

They're all in Florida. Yeah, they're, like, I don't know. I mean, like, where's the ghost of the Fairfield Inn? I mean, I don't know. But maybe if there was one, it would be in Florida. Not trying to dog on Florida. Just they got to. They got a different energy.

Seems like you guys are trying to dogg on Florida. No, I am for sure. He can dogg on Florida as much as I'm just saying it's got a chaotic energy. Let's put it that way. It's got a chaotic energy, that entire state. Banks are kind of hell. I love that. All right.

Well, do you guys want to stick around for a little while and take a couple calls with us? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like that could be cool. We have one call right now from. Arturo, who saw La Lorona, La Yerona. You guys know they made a movie about La Yerona? A movie about La Yorona.

He's not a movie or the real she ghost. Arturo saw the real La Yorona. The real ghost. Yeah, so thank you so much, Arturo. Come on in and tell us about your, can you hear us? How you doing? Arturo, are you there? I can hear some, I can hear some, some, some, some, I'm here.

We got them. How's it going? Welcome. Thank you for coming on the show. Great. Thank you. Yeah, love that. Tell us about La Yerona. So I was about eight or nine years old, and we did a holiday trip for Christmas out to Mexico.

My cousins that lived out there, they lived in this sketchy farm that just out in the middle of nowhere in Mexico. and they tell me, like, hey, let's go play hide and seek. So I go play hide and seek, and I'm it, and I'm counting, and I go out after counting to whatever number, and I start looking for them, and as I go down, there's like this canyon, like in 127 hours. And I start going through there, and when you go through there, there's a river

and I start looking around because there's, you know, dead trees and everything and I'm thinking, oh, they're going to be hiding there and it's getting kind of dark and I'm just looking around and I'm trying to find them and I see on the other side of the river

and it's kind of shallow it's, you know, you can it'll go like the water goes up to your ankles and I think it's my sister because she was wearing a white shirt that day. Oh no. And I'm just like, hey, like what are you doing over there and that person's you know pretty far away just standing there and I'm just like is this my sister or is somebody else and she starts getting closer walking towards

me and I like I keep talking and like hey like what are you doing why are you on that side like how do you get our parents are going to get weird yeah yeah yeah like cut it out and she starts walking towards me but like kind of slow so i turn around and i'm looking around like like are they messing with me or something like because i was the youngest there so i turn around she's closer to me she's like maybe like 120 yards away or like a football field like linked away yeah pretty far yeah so she started getting closer and closer and from there I get freaked out because then I start hearing like that

like siren yelling like she starts going like I see horse oh my gosh what is that mean she's crying and she's like oh my children yeah I'm out oh my god as I hear that that that bellowing scream

I literally just like I feel cold I feel the chill down my spine and I'm panicking in fear. So, like, I run out of there. I go into the canyon. Like, I'm hoping for my life not to be drowned. Yeah?

And as I get back, my sister, my cousins, they're like, hey, what are you doing? Why did you go over there? They're all hiding over there. There was, like, a rundown barn. They all hit over there and left me to go over there. And I told them, like, hey, who the hell was over there? And they're like, nobody, nobody was over there.

And I'm like, somebody was over there because they were yelling pretty damn hard. And they're like, what do you mean? They're like, hey, they were saying, I'm his hijos. And it was just like echoing, like, through the canyon where the river is. And they're like, we need to go back, like, right now. Holy crow. Yeah. I would know.

Well, if I was a kid. Wait, wait, go back home or go back to where the ghost? Go back to the farm, like, we were pretty far out, and we had to, like, run back, because it was, like, a rundown dairy farm, like, the barn was broken. Like, there was just, like, like, two or three corrals that had, like, four or ten cows. It was... If I was a kid, I'd run. If I was an adult, maybe you should take care of me.

What? She just wants a child to take care of, and I'm too big to drown. You want to be the Laurona's baby? What are the conversations like in your household? Not many. When you go home, people are like, hey dude,

we've heard the podcast today. What is happening with you? That's mistake number one is they listen to the show. No, you know, they've accepted me that I am a strange man. That's beautiful. Liarona stories are the best.

They're so creepy. They get me every time. Yeah. I don't love, like, of all the hags and like scary, like witch characters that are in the Cryptok, cryptex, I guess, we want to call it?

Triptock is a TikTok. Cryptok is, yeah, that's, that's, cryptoc is like, where you do, like, really bad. Hey, guys, I got a new coin for you guys to buy. Yeah, it's a coin. No. Wait, way, I'm tired. I'll see you later, guys. I just think, I think there's something really scary about the notion of it being, like,

this sort of, like, sarcastic I'm looking for my children. Because, you know that the, if the law your own is real, she's not trying to, like, ask you where her kids are. No, she wants to kill you. She's trying to scare the shit out of you. But the fact that she decides to do it by saying, where are my children is, like, very fucked up. Yeah, it's very, very well.

She drowns you, right? Yeah, she drowns you. Yeah, she, she drowns you. And then she, she takes, like, your spirit with her as, as her own or, like, as, like, a child. I'm either way. Yeah, absolutely nuts. No, thank you. Wow.

Yeah. Very children's story. Yeah. Do you think the reason why it's scary? I've had a lot of supernatural stuff happen to me as I've gone to Mexico, like my grandma's street as a child,

I guess the street, it's called Niño Perdido, it's the lost child street. What would you name it? At that point, that did it's like, you know what? Haunt the street. Is there a street sign that says that?

He says that on a little... I want to say yes. It's in Halisco, Mexico, in Wallahara. The street of lost children. And if you go up the hill, my grandma told us a story just to not be out late at night, that if you go all the way to the top of the hill, there's supposedly a witch that lives up there. And there were some nights where, like, we're all asleep, and it's like all my cousins in one room. And we'll hear the bars on the window, they'll be rattling, like, trying to pull open by force.

that is so your grandma told you that yeah my grandmother told me that it's nuts it's nuts it just a lot of supernatural stuff it always fucks me when that old person tells me a scary story I know because it's like you're supposed to tell me no this is all fake right and then instead they're like actually don't go to the last children's street and at the top of the hill there's an old witch who will take your soul

good night you know And then I also had an alien encounter in Mexico. Your routing issue. What is going on? I need to know that. I need to know about that. I love alien stories. I'm pretty much going off what Mathis says about, like, how your mind kind of, like, it

kind of wraps around, like, reality, how you see aliens. Yeah, yeah. And it was literally Christmas Eve, like, at night, like, we were, all go into bed and I wake up like like midnight like one or two in the morning or like early in the morning. I don't know why like when I wake up. I see a very bright light in the room and I'm sleeping with my siblings. My parents are in the bed next to us and there's just a giant ball of light in the room and it's like so blinding like I can't see and I'm just like looking around everybody's asleep, I'm seeing

the ball of light, and I'm just like, what is this? Yo. And at first, I just, I thought it was like, Jesus coming to bring gifts or Santa. And then, like, and then from there, as, like, I started looking more

into aliens and stuff, then, like, I, that's when I'm like, this is, this was an encounter. Yeah. What color? was the light. Great question. The light was, it was like a bright white light.

White and orange are the most common one scene when it comes to like lights in the sky stuff. But it was, it was like in the middle of the room and it was just like so blinding. Like my eyes were watering. I couldn't look directly at it. Did you have like missing time or anything after that? Yes. How long do you remember? I want to say about like an hour because the last time I checked when I woke up, the clock.

dead like I don't know why it's just like burn into my head it said it was like 104 and then after like the ball light the clock it went to like 3 37 wow so right during the witching hour midnight to 3 a.m. Yeah that's crazy we we had some people on our show a few years ago that had experienced lights in their room and I know one guy had a yellow light in his room hovering above his bed. Another person had a green light that they happened upon. They were just walking in an apartment complex, got up to the top floor, turned a corner down a hallway, and there was just a green ball of light there. And then I know there's a trope called the red light that sometimes people have seen hovering outside their window and people think it's an alien drone that is

kind of cataloging the area. So that's why I was just so curious to know what kind of light it was. Because my knee-jerk reaction to a white light, I don't know why. I would just think, same as you, caller, that it would be Jesus or Santa or something, especially as a child. I thought that Santa and the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy were chilling in heaven with Jesus because how else could they possibly know if I was naughty or nice or if I lost a tooth or not? And, yeah, so that's where my mind would go. Yeah. That's, that's, maybe it was the eye of Horace calling to warn you that your neighbor's house is about to burn down. like right before a disaster oh good call could be good call well damn arturo thank you so much

for that uh for that uh great couple of stories that's very very uh like uh it had a tinge of reality to it i will say that let's put it that way it didn't sound 100% didn't sound wacky no thank you yeah um i'm glad to be back on the show again yeah absolutely yep thank you yeah so i've seen you guys twice uh live show hell yeah uh so i'm happy to see you guys again let's go thank you thank you yeah thank you man i just want to shout out arturo one more time that was a great call that was like hitting all the boxes of paranormal phenomena i got chills that's what we want yeah we're famous on our show for nagging our audience so i'm going to nag a little bit here don't call in if you have a bad story that was a great story arturo just did we want the bangers we want the bangers we want

the banger paranormal. Once Nat and I leave the chat, you guys can call in with bad stories. Bring the charisma. You guys, practice your story. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Delivery. Come on. Let's bring in Paralinear just for a second to talk about briefly. Give us

a little preview of some stuff we're going to talk about a little bit later in LA month. Paralinear, can you hear us? Are you with us? You mentioned that you were, I guess, thinking about doing this story in Jack Parsons already. So I guess I can just give a brief description of some of the interesting stories I've heard. I live

in downtown Los Angeles for many years. I worked a lot with local historical preservation out there. And my mentor had some really interesting stories that he heard about Jack Parsons' exploits. Now, for anyone not familiar with him, basically, Jack Parsons was a rocket scientist in the 1930s into the 40s. He founded JPL. He invented some of the first rocket fuel that was used in World War II for different jets. There's a picture of him above a Jess from the screen right now, actually. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you see it taped to the window of our studio above Jesse's head, you can see a picture of him. I just thought he was pointing at it.

Me too for a second. I was pointing near you. I was pointing near you, yeah. Yes. So he lived out in Pasadena, founded JPL there. Hence, that's why you had JPL out in Pasadena. Jet Propulsion Laboratories have gone on to do a lot of work with NASA and whatnot. Oh, yeah.

Now, what's interesting with Jack Parsons, though, is that despite being this inventor of a lot of early rocket fuel, he was not an academic. he failed out of Caltech and had horrible academic stories and basically he was kicked out of a boarding school in like San Diego from blowing up a toilet just a lot of just bad. J. Parsons is like such a classic American character. Like didn't get the application of the pocket. I'm doing it anyway.

Yeah. That's the attitude that he had and probably led to a lot of the early inventions with the rocket field. But what's crazy is once he started getting his career going at JPL, he was also. involved with Alastu Crowley, you know, notable magician and crazy individual, a lot of stories about that guy alone out in England. And Alastou Crowley had him doing a number of interesting ritualistic activities, let's say, out in Pasadena. Now, if you guys are familiar with Colorado Street Bridge out above the Arroyo Seco canyons in Pasadena, that is basically where this story is taking place. These are dry canyons close to where the one

One tin freeway, first freeway 1939, ever built in America. Scary, scary freeway to drive on. It's like a little racetrack kind of. Yeah, there's no, it's weird because when you merge, you have stop signs. So you have to yield when you're merging onto it. Dodgy freeway to drive on the first place, but out near Colorado Street Bridge, which the bridge itself has a lot of very unfortunate deaths for reasons I shouldn't say in YouTube.

But that location, full of a lot of stories in its own, was then becoming the site for Jack Parsons to conduct ritualistic activities. He was trying to conduct something that was called Babylon working, where he wanted to bring about this summoning of the spirit of Babylon. This was something that Alistair Crowley believed in. So a lot of it was weird. Child born at some point. Yeah.

That was all part of that. You had ways to conduct to this experiment with a lot of kind of weird, strange orgies that they would conduct out there. but things got really weird when Elron Hubbard, founder of Scientology, this was before Scientology, of course, joined the group. And at this point, Jack Parsons, getting himself

kicked out of the JPL. He founded it, but the FBI catches wind of his occult activities. The United States government, for obvious reasons, does not like this. There's also rumors of being connected with communism and all of that. So just

generally bad for him, Parsons has kicked out, and he goes full occultist at this point. And what's crazy at this point, too, is he leaves over a Seco Canyon, he leaves doing these occultic rituals in the canyons. And he goes out to China Lake. And this is a location up near Edwards Air Force Base. And that, of course, is the organization that runs Area 51.

Even though they're in California, they're the administration base. I lived out in Lancaster, near Lancaster for many years, saw. A lot of crazy aircraft and whatnot happening. Lancaster, amazing place. If you just want to see crazy stuff, you have like Lockheed Martin stock skunkworths and whatnot up there. But out near California City in China Lake, you've got a small location. It is old petroglyphs. It's called Little Petro Cliff Canyon.

And at this location, this is according to my historical mentor, the place where Jack Parsons conduct in Juan Hubbard conducted the majority of the Babylon working experiments. They believe that because this is a site with a lot of Native American petroglyphs carved into rocks, ancient carvings, right? But then among these carvings are all sorts of strange additional carvings, some that say JP, potentially for Jack Parsons, other. There's another carving out there dated back to the 30s, E equals MC squared. Presumably they carved that out there. and then there's a number of other strange little symbols that they carved for their big activities. So they're out there doing this weird ritual and, you know, debatable if it goes to their purposes or not.

But according to Jack Parsons, it does go well. And then later he goes on to, I believe, Mary, the person that he thinks is a reincarnation of the goddess of Babylon. Wow. And shows up the door, if I remember correctly, while they're there. she kind of shows up at their front door, like, needing a place to stay. Yeah, that's got to be apocryphal. That sounds so crazy. No, but it's true.

Yeah. It's what's, yeah, well, one day, we'll talk about. Yeah. We're going to do a whole. We literally are going to do Parsons in a couple weeks. Crowley, a huge dive into him. Yeah, very soon, yeah. Yeah, there's some excellent books that cover that one.

Another good, like, good one is reign of quantity. That's a great book that covers some of the Crowley stuff. But in regards, though, to, like, what men's ends up happening with Parsons is that Ron Hubbard, he defrauds him for a bunch of money. He ends up leaving, goes and found Scientology. That becomes a whole story branching off in of itself. But then with Parsons, yeah, like they have a big falling out. And then Parsons, he ends up in the 50s dying in his home in Pasadena.

He's only 37 and he dies in an accidental explosion in his house. And there's a lot of... Yeah, like there's theory that why this happened. Some people think that, you know, the prevalent opinion is that he accidentally blew himself up, just making a mistake, mixing chemicals. You know, you shouldn't be doing rocket science in a Pasadena home. But other theories indicate that maybe this was the United States government. Maybe the FBI went in and assassinated him because of his connections, both with so much science, then also with the occult and potentially communists.

Other theories indicate that for a while, you know, he was working with Howard Hughes. And some people think that, you know, some people think that maybe Howard Hughes assassinated him because, um,

Jack Parsons might have been stealing, um, plans and information and then selling them to the Israeli government. That is another theory, you know, debatable. I mean,

the another one is just like people blame Crowley too, because at the time when he, when he died, Crowley had taken everything. He'd taken his wife and left him for Crowley. He had like, sued parsons in the ground took all of his money like all kinds of shit so he was just in a shit like situation because of crowley which happens a lot to the people who pair up with crowley

and end up stepping away from crowley yeah dude we're like it's it almost feels like chaos magic that you actually called in and talked about parsons he's literally a bit's literally a literally picture of him on the thing that is that is amazing uh but yeah crowley that's amazing Crowley, Parsons, Hubbard, Pasadena, Madame Blavatsky. They all wouldn't exist without each other. It feels like we've been like writing a fucking essay

about something for, like, when we start doing this for so long, you start seeing how like everything influences everything else in the weird world of the occult. Yeah. It's freaking, LA's a bizarre city that's founded by just a bunch of people in a cult. It's nuts.

Hey, you're not wrong. Oh, sorry, I'll just wrap this up. And just to say, I mean, everything you just said there about all these connections. I think a lot of this has to do with Pasadena. I don't know if it's just the location. You know, you have the Huntington Library. You have Caltech.

Sure. Yeah. I didn't work there. You had so many people in Pasadena that had done amazing things, all these historical connections. And I guess the last thing I wanted to leave you guys with is, you know, given Jack Parsons, he did not have a scientific background. Everything he did was kind of experimental, haphazard, figuring things out.

Do you think, is it possible any of this chaos magic that he was involved with, helped him with his discovery? of rocket fuel basically he did the impossible that other scientists across the world except maybe the not into the b2 rockets had done it's very crazy that he is the one that created it because of all the occult stuff but also like there is this angle where maybe the the chaos magic for we're looking at it from a logical place the chaos magic made have just given him the motivation and the focus but he could have just been very intelligent just didn't learn in a normal way and was able to teach himself rocket fuel stuff and then because it was the 50s he

blew himself up yeah freaking but i also yeah You could be chaos, man. You're freaking nuts. You never know. And we are literally going to do a deep dive on Parsons in just a few weeks. So we'll be talking about it more. Paralinear. Thank you so much for calling in with such an informative and, like, researched call.

Fantastic. And hopefully I talk to you again real soon. Absolutely. Thank you guys. I love your show. Thank you, man. Appreciate you. See you later.

That was awesome. And Ali and Nat, also thank you guys so much for coming on. We definitely got to do a full real episode. episode together again real soon, would love to go Disney vlogging. I didn't, that didn't occur to me until you said it, but I would love to do that. Let's do it. Yeah, let's get Disney. Get it.

Thanks for having us on, guys. This has been a lot of fun. And, you know, wow, this is also like a huge production. So congratulations on. Yeah, this is awesome. The audio is working somewhat. The audio is working somewhat. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I apologize. I will say just as an anti-brand deal that Riverside has one of the worst live-stream setups I've ever seen. Excellent for recording. Do not live stream with this program. It is not ready for prime time. But let's get haunted. Thank you guys so much for coming on. Please go to let's get haunted.com to check them out. Go listen to their show. It's very, very good. And like, I can't imagine that your Venn diagram, if you're a listener of Chiluminati, does not line up with Let's Get Haunted. So go check them out. And we'll see you guys real soon. Thank you guys. Oh, yeah.

Thanks, guys. And thank you to all the callers. Thanks for having us on. And we'll see you guys later. Bye. And for our next guest today, let's just roll right into it. We've got somebody who I've never had on the show before and who I organically discovered because I am personally obsessed with L.A.

She has been making a name for herself over the last little while, kind of like getting out in the street. Literally, she called us from the streets of Hollywood earlier today. Yeah. Uh, she's out there visiting, uh, haunted restaurants, haunted locations, getting access that I only can dream of, uh, she acts. She does all kinds of stuff online. She's got a YouTube channel. She's doing, uh, Instagram. I think she's doing TikTok as well. Anzley, spooky foodie. Welcome to the damn show. What is up, y'all? I'm still in the streets of Hollywood. I don't even know what I am. I'm parked somewhere. You know, I'm on the field. I'm like, yeah. You're doing a report right now So you are a spooky foodie Yeah, you are a spooky foodie I kind of gave everybody a background

But if you want to just give everybody The intro to yourself and let them know kind of like What your deal is I am so I literally am like a fan That's all I got to say Heck yeah Thank you I'm a fan of y'all I love this this is awesome

Thank you for having me Yeah so I'm a paranormal investigator I am a ginormous foodie I guess I could say I'm like Gullfieri. I like to call myself that. Oh, that's incredible. Take it. I'll take it.

God, there's so much more grand than me. Yeah. I explore haunted restaurants and bars throughout Los Angeles. And it's also just like a cool way to tap into the history of Los Angeles that I found. I found that people are really into ghost stories. And it's been a cool way to educate people around just the history in general. And so I started my page a couple years ago. I was kind of, like, raised on this stuff.

I went to film school for acting in college, and I came out here, and I was like, I want to do something else. Like, I want to create my own shit. So, can I swear on this? 100%. Please, please do. No, okay. Okay. Okay.

I was like, and I was just like, what are two things I love most in this world? Well, food and goes. So I just, I started it out, and it's done really well. But a little bit about my background, born and raised in Las Vegas, Nevada. Um, my dad is a true crime journalist and UFO hunter. He loves UFOs and, uh, he also like, help me be best friends. Yes, yes, totally, totally. Um, yeah, my dad's also a mob historian.

So when I was younger, like, I would go with him to like crime scenes and stuff. Like, I, like, loved going with him places. And I saw a lot of paranormal stuff when I was a kid out in the mountains. And, uh, I just, I got him in me for sure. I just am very passionate about this stuff my whole life. So it's been cool. Is there like,

is there, to do it on my own? In all the, in all the like little like investigation things that you've done, is there one that is like something happened and I don't know what it was? When I was younger or now? Because I have stories about both. I'm interested.

I'm interested across the board. Yeah. I just want to know more about. Do you have a go-to one that always like that just sticks out above all else? Oh my gosh. Well, okay. I have one when I was younger. I'll tell you the story of the first time I saw a ghost.

So my dad would take me out to this ghost town called Bonnie Springs. It's in Mount Charleston in Nevada. It's in the mountains and there's like mines and like little ghost town houses. And a lot of people would just go there when I was a kid for the petting zoo and birthday parties. But I liked going out there with him. And one day I was walking alone in one of the mines. And at the end of the mine hallway, was by myself and I was around seven years old. I see the apparition of a woman in a white

dress like standing at the end of the hallway. And I thought it was maybe like, you know, a doll or like a mannequin. But I blink and then she's gone. Okay. But it gets better. I go again for my friend's birthday party. A few months later, I go back for the petting zoo party. But I I did not go to the petting zoo. I went back to that same mind. There was something that was calling me back to whatever that was. And I go back and I see her again. I saw it a second time.

That is incredible. Yes. That never happens. Never happens. And that made me believe that there is something out there. And I have many more experiences in Vegas hotels growing up, things I can't explain. But that was one thing that stuck out to me It's probably like what started everything

Like the catalyst of why I believe in the paranormal for sure It's like getting struck by lightning twice almost Like being like is it real and going back and being like fuck yes it is bitch Like it's awesome So I believed in it all my life Fuck yeah So you're like so you're like Mathis like I feel like I'm like Tony Shaloup from Galaxy Quest

I just them along for the ride Jesse's basically agent Scully And Mathis is just absolutely obsessed He's he's like a UFO guy more than a ghost guy But he's he's pot and I you know I grew up watching like all those like like The ghost adventures ghost hunters Do you have you ever been to Zach Began's

Haunted Museum? I have not I have not been I know I know really really messed up of me I have to go one day It feels like I know like this sounds lame but like I feel like it would be too bro, like, in the same way that, like, I don't go to some Irish bars near the beach. I feel like it would be, like, too bro-y for me at the, at the, at the, at the, Zach Bagan's. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't know why I think, I don't know why I think that, but that is, that is, that is, that is a hot take straight from me. It is not a hot take. I am on the same page as you and why I probably will never go. Five, five, five, vibes. Though I did hear that his, his, that dude's wife tried to kill him, the cameraman. Yeah, the cameraman's wife. They're trying to hire a assassin to kill.

That's a whole other situation. That's insane, bro. Yes. Are you down to take a couple calls with us? Yeah. Hell yeah. Let's fucking get in it. So the first call we've got Tim, who has two ghost encounters from when he was young that he could share.

So Tim, welcome to the show. Go ahead and unmute your microphone, my man. And you are good to go. How's it going? Doing fantastic. I'm really happy to hear from you. Let us know. Let's hear about your ghost stories. So, yeah, I just got, I got two weird stories from when I was a kid, you know, living in my old parents' house.

Both mostly visual. There's just weird things that stuck me with my whole life. And nobody else ever saw anything else in that house, no other ghost stories. So I don't know why I was the only one. The first one, I think I was probably like, probably eight or nine, you know. And they both happened, though, weirdly, like very bright, sunny, clear days. Like, not nighttime, not spooky time. Um, my mom had told me, hey, you know, your, you know, your laundry is on my bed to go put

away, go grab it off, you know, she would fill laundry on her bed and tell us to go pick it up and put it away. And so I went upstairs and grabbed it off, off her bed. And, you know, I had to walk through my sister's room to get to my room at the time. And so I'm, I've come around the corner and I'm, you know, my door's open. My bed is right behind my door. And there's a big window right behind that looking out on the, you know, the neighbor's roof. And, like I said, bright sunny day, no clouds in the sky.

blue skies. And as I'm walking towards my room, I kind of look up. And, um, just a suit. Like a guy's suit, no, no person in it. Just standing up suit. Like, like fully standing up, like there would be a person in it, but except there's not. Yes. Like, like, like, walk in my door, like, walk in the window. Like, like, I can see the light rays coming around the, you know how there's fuzz. Yeah. Yeah. I can see the fuzz on the outline of the suit kind of lightly glowing from the sunlight. That's, and I like, freeze. Throw my, clothes forward and go take off or not. And I'm like, Mom, Mom, what's this?

Somebody in my room, somewhere. Because at the time, I guess I, I wasn't looking really at it, but, like, looking back, I'm like, there's nobody in the suit. It was just, like, standing up clothes, like a gray business suit. Weird. Of course, my time I get back there and there's nothing there. But the weird, the weird part

that story was died and got stuck wanting his fucking work outfit. Yeah, that's a cartoon. That's a cartoon who ran away, and his clothes were still sitting there. The weirdest thing about the whole thing was, like, remember throwing my clothes, like, haphazardly at the thing, right? And when I got back to, when, you know, my mom, come look, come look. The clothing was stacked perfectly back on my bed, like just sitting in it as if I just

sat down a little. Never anything like that ever again in the house. Nobody had ever seen anything else. You know, I got teased. My siblings were like, hey, so weird girls. The other story is, is, this one just blows my mind because I don't even know what it would have been. Like, maybe there's a guy, a weird ghost showed up one, you know, he was past. them through. This one was weird. I remember coming down the stairs,

and Sunday or Saturday afternoon, beautiful day. And I hear like what sounds like a jet engine flying overhead, but real close, real loud. Yeah. And as I am coming down the stairs, you can kind of see when the window at the bottom of the stairs looks out over the neighbor, over the, where the driver would be between two houses. And as I glance up at this window, I can see like the fuselage of the body of like a World War II bomber What the fuck?

Like falling down But the position where it would be in like the wings would be in the houses There's no way it could be that Like there's no way Right But you saw it's like it's like what's that But you saw it nevertheless Yeah yeah I saw it was it was in sync with this sound

Like this You know that kind of like that And it's a screen You know like it's like that green Kind of camouflagey body's paint It's like the shark mouth on the front. Yeah, exactly what we're talking about.

I can see that visually as clear as day through the window. And at the same time, it's like, there's no way it could be there because, again, the wings would have been

in our houses. And I go, right around the corner in the kitchen, I'm like, look at the window. What is that? My mom looks,

there's nothing there. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, waiting for an explosion. Like, I'm thinking this thing's going to crash right in our backyard.

Nothing. Just nothing. And, I mean, those are the two things. Again, both kind of visually, just stuck on me forever. I'm like, those are weird a weird, weird, and that's weird.

You might be the only person haunted by straight objects without any people in them. A suit's got a man, a plane. Have you ever seen that in your in your food ghost hunts? Have you found out of, have you ever came across like a pair of pants that have just been running around by itself?

I've come across like a shadow man but not, nothing with like just clothes. And I was just going to say, too, that happened during the day, and I feel like that's one of the biggest misconceptions about paranormal stuff is that it can only happen at night. Like, it can happen at any time of the day. Like, you could be in broad daylight and something can happen. So that's cool that you talked about that too.

Wow. Yeah. That's creepy. If you've ever been in, like, a school or like a library or like a, any place that you, like, or like a venue when you show up, like, early before a show, like, it's usually like 4 p.m. or 3 p.m. at that time. And it's like, when you're walking around and you don't know where anything is and it starts to feel very haunted house-like even in the daytime. I don't, yeah,

I don't, I don't think that the light is the thing. I think it's just the vibes. I think the vibes are what make you freaked out. And according to the chat, uh, phantom bombers actually are a thing, uh, especially in the UK. And I feel like maybe, and I, you know, I don't know exactly where you are, Tim, uh, where you, when you, when you, where you were when you saw this, but St. Louis. Is that we said? Yeah. Yeah, in the little St. Louis, Missouri. in the county so maybe i because i know the uk you know parts of the uk have been bombed in the past but i you know america hasn't really been bombed as much but you know maybe maybe there's some sort of like trauma you know like some sort of maybe maybe you were near somebody maybe you were

channeling a poltergeist energy that established as a trauma a memory of a of a bomber coming down but you know i don't know that's just me completely uh going into woooo land i love those those are the ones that kind of fit the fun haunting theory that like ghosts aren't like really dead things but like a weird like thin veil between it's in space time itself and we're like you're overlapping and seeing something

from the past that's like actively happening in the past at that time. It's fine. A fun. Pretty cool. Thanks Tim. Yeah, thank you so much for those two stories. That's really cool. And we'll talk to you again soon. Yeah, we'll see around. That was awesome. See you later. Later. Yeah. Up next we have

Ari, uh, who has a story for us about a imaginary friend that may have been a ghost in the end so let's see what's... You think all the clowns in your haunted room at your parents' house were actually just family, a dead family friends transposed as to clown ghosts

into your haunted mom's room? I don't know why that's the question that came into my mouth. That's like the opposite of the glass man's... You? I remember you telling me about the... Didn't there like clown pictures in like your mom's old house? In the old house in there a room where they're like pictures? There's always in some in some in like some aunt's house there's always like

I thought you'd never collect clown photos. No, I thought it was like a weird room with like weird photos that were super creepy in your old family home. In my parents' old house, again, it was built on a Native American burial ground that then had a Civil War burial ground put on top of it that was also a current day cemetery. But you saw nothing. A plantation that was no longer used and they lived in this sort of like community that was there. And they had this weird room that had yellow wallpaper and paintings. that looked like they were 200 years old. And I said, if there was ever a room that would be haunted, it would be that room.

There was nothing, which is why I'm like, eh. Yeah, I mean, yeah, all right. I don't know why I thought they were clowns. Absolutely nuts. Ari, sorry. Ari, welcome to the call. Hi, thank you. Hello.

So I heard you have a story about an imaginary friend. Is that right? Yeah, that's right. Um, I always say it's like, it's my, it's my dinner story, you know, like, if I were ever to be asked, like, do you have a ghost story? This is mine. Yes. Um, whenever I was younger. Well, there was, there was a lot of ghost things happening kind of when I was younger, but, um, the one that kind of stuck with me forever was, um, when I was little, I had an imaginary friend. And like to the point where we have it on home video of like, her and I playing. together her name was crystal i knew exactly what she looked like i could describe her to my parents you know and um do you still remember her so i'm on the home yeah i do that's crazy um i had journaled

about her a lot like growing up because that's how vivid this imaginary friend was like i could i could see her i could play with her like we have like i said on the home videos i'm in there like talking to her and we're having full blown conversations and arguments and like we're singing songs together, you know, but it's just me. And then I would remember, like, whenever I would be in my room, I would remember toys, like, you know, maybe moving on their own. Who knows? Like, at that point, you're, like, you're young, so I'm sure it was just my imagination.

What age are you wearing around this time? It started. So the home videos, I was about four, five. Really young. Yeah, really, really young. And then it kind of, like I said, it would, it went into my, like, I was probably, probably about 12 the last time I had an encounter, let's just say. So all growing up, you know, whatever, have this imaginary friend.

I knew her name. I knew what she looked like, whatever. And then when I was about 12, we were living in a house in Colorado that I swear was like the most haunted house I'd ever been. And even like my mom and my sister had had shit go down in there. It was just really scary. and I woke up one morning like it was very very early in the morning I woke up and my bedroom was adjoined to the bathroom so you know I went in there how to go to the bathroom I get up I go in there and then I flipped on the light and the whole back wall of the bathroom was like a mirror that went across the whole wall and when I flipped on the light in the mirror standing next to me I saw this girl who looked exactly like me um she was maybe a little no no not a mimic i'm out i like it took me a second because you know

like my fighter flight i think is broken i just freeze and i just like taking the information no that's so i like a freeze man free your body's like you know what i'm just gonna shut down yeah i do i like when my when something happens i just kind of shut down and i like you know taking all the information and then i decide to run usually but so i flip on the light and you know It's this girl standing next to me, and she's in, like, older style clothing. It's not like current, you know, this was like 20, maybe 2000, 2001, somewhere around there. And she's in like a little bit older style clothing and like a little white dress, but looked exactly like me. I had very long hair that was like down to my hips, you know, so she had the same very long hair.

And she was holding some little flowers. But I thought for a minute, like, it was me, you know, it was like a mindful. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was me for a minute. You, like, realized it wasn't a reflection after a second. Yeah. That's fucked up. Right. And my sister have a younger sister.

And she looks exactly like me, too. So for a second, I'm like, oh, she's in here fucking with me. Like, you know. So I'm looking at this person in the mirror. I realize that it's not a person and I look next to me. Like, I stopped looking in the mirror and I look next to me and there's obviously nothing there. And I freak the fuck out. Like, I decide that I don't have to pee anymore.

I run back to my room. I get under the covers and I just, you know, bunk. We lost you. Ari, are you there? Did we lose Ari? Just for a second. God, the ghost came and got her. Got no reception from Ari.

She back? I'm not seeing it. Oh, man. This is like the ultimate cliffhanger. I'm on a hold. I'm going to hold for like 30 more seconds for you to jump back in here and finish the story. but, oh, my God. Haunting Tees.

We're so close. But seriously, that is a really creepy. Edged via haunting story. Yeah, that is a really creepy, like, sort of like cinematic reveal. Oh, oh. Oh. We got you. I hear you.

You're back. Okay. I don't know what happens. Sorry. No, you're good. Okay. So anyways, fast forward. I'm about 16, 17, somewhere in there.

It's like right before I graduate high school. And we're visiting some family friends. you know and like it had it was it was one of those stories that like had gotten forgotten about you know like we know we just moved on like things kind of didn't happen anymore after we moved out of that house um so we're telling this story we're laughing about it i'm like yes i'm you know 10 toes down i'm like this her name was crystal like she was my little best friend i think that was her that i saw you know in the mirror and like because she looked just like me and whatever and then it gets real quiet and my parents are kind of looking at at each other and then they kind of look at me and they're like holy shit like it kind of dawned on them they're like holy shit we we they never told us but they're like we completely forgot that like my dad he was adopted by his maternal grandma when he was very young his birth mom had given birth to two twin girls you know a few years before him maybe five or six years before him and they died shortly after birth and one of them's name was crystal

Oh. And I was like, oh, my God. And it never dawned on them until that point. I'm sorry? I said, that's not even a super common name. Like, Crystal's not even a common name that you would hear, like, used all the time. Yeah, yeah, it was really scary. And I was like, oh, my God.

I love that thing. There's so many stories out there and a lot of videos, too, of like, especially like four, five, six year olds who are just like interacting and talking to something that isn't there. Sometimes they know things they shouldn't know or they say. names they're not supposed they shouldn't there no reason for them to know and those are the ones from like well maybe there is like something going on here there's got to be something to it i think it's creepy i love that straight mess that's so scary that's straight that is that is that is that that is my favorite uh constructed ghost story of the day i i i appreciate that one yeah that's i love that we had a similar we had a similar uh like dinner with my family one time where we all realized

that we've been seeing the same ghost for like 30 years over generations and it just like blew up everything. I just love, you should talk to you, the moral of the story is, you should talk to your family about shit. Let him tell you the moral of your story. Right. Just in general, the moral of the story is you should, for the listener, you should talk to your family about shit

because you never know what little details are going to come back and smack you in the butt real quick. Yeah. Some crazy, crazy coincidence. That's awesome. I love that. Yeah. Thank you so much for calling. I think we lost Spooky Foodie. at some point during the call.

But again, her car broke down in Hollywood. So I'm sure if she's back, she's back. If not, she's not. We're very happy to have her on. But thank you so much, Ari. And we'll talk to you again real soon. Thank you.

And thank you guys. Yeah, 100%. And we got one more caller we're going to try to do today. Just give Big Boss one more chance to jump in. So Big Boss, if you're ready, jump on in. Don't disappoint us, Big Boss. You got it. Stay in the chat.

Unmute your microphone. Let's do it. One. Yay! I see you. Do we have you? Oh, heck. Yeah.

All right. Yeah. So, awesome. I am so stoked to be here. Um, I will say, first thing, I'm a Mathis out of the group. I'll take that. I, it's so rare. We exist.

Thank you, friend. Hey, we do exist out there. You do exist. Goddame. My, we do exist. And my sister is a Alex, by the way. I introduced you to. to her, so she sounds cool.

I can't hear this call at all, so far. It's pretty cool. But, um, I guess I'll just get into it. Sorry for the technical issues. I was kind of a dumb dumb. That's okay.

But, uh, do you guys want to hear about some aliens? Do it. Please. Yeah, give us a story. Okay.

So, my dad was in the military for about 16 years, and in 199, Kosovo, he sends me this message. As I asked him about it, I was curious, and I have a lot of supernatural stories, but this one, I'd say, is the weirdest out of all of them and has a lot of substance.

So, lights outside that, and Tina, CNN was following us around. Government shows up. CNN sent away, nothing to see. Oh. So I call him up, and I ask him more. I'm like, okay, so I wrote down a whole page of notes. So they were in Kosovo. It was night time.

They were doing night patrols. They go to a LPPOP, which is a listening post observation post. And I guess they were on top of this building kind of doing Overwatch. And the best way I could describe it is there were some gunshots. He said one of the sergeants was doing some stupid. He was shooting bullets into the air, that sort of thing, right? So he looks into the sky and the best way he... he explained it to me was that he seen

a string of lights when he was talking to me he's like oh uh clouds um that he could see them through clouds and I kind of talked to him about it a little bit more and what he meant was is he could see the string of lights through what

the best way he could describe it was clouds okay he said they weren't clouds though they were he said substance like liquid the closest thing he could say what's cloud It sounds like a

I'm imagining in my head is like a cell like a like a like a mild like a cell yeah yeah yeah

he said it was like a force field but it looked more like a substance okay and he kind of stopped for a moment

and told me the lights colors were like looking into black and seeing all of the colors

up once oh huh that's trippy that's trippy like something out of the color out of space I literally was just gonna say that yeah that's awesome that's crazy

so he said they moved because I he said they moved like a cat toy really slowly like a string and a snake pattern in kind of a wave and I asked him

hey how long did they stay and he said not for very long They just disappeared. The other thing that I was talking about with the CNN was I guess there was a news team there so this guy's got in trouble for some nudies printed on like their Humvee. He said after he's seen those lights though

when CNN was told to leave. He didn't say this in the phone call but I remember from the story before I should have asked him about it but he said someone when people came up and they said hey what you've seen tonight

don't ever talk about it again oh man don't tell anyone and that's kind of that and now here we are on the Chulamati podcast talking about it live in front of 300 people I told him I said hey can I talk about this is the coolest thing that you've ever told me he goes I don't even know how you remember that

and it's just stuck with me And he just murmured at one time that I had to call him up and ask. That's, that's, that's, like, that's like a common story in, for those in the military, who especially not like, you know, may not be like the highest ranking or whatever. It's like, they see something, something weird. And then within 24 hours, other people come in and they're like, hey, you saw nothing. You don't say shit. Move on.

And like, that's it. And then most people just do exactly that. They just go, okay. And they don't say anything. Because what else are they going to do? They got their job to work. worry about all this other stuff. What are you going to go against your superiors in the Army and risk your job?

Like, no, of course not. But that's so common. Could have been something of ours, like, or tech that we were playing with. But I don't know. I'm not always buying it. I don't feel like we have that tech. Liquid cell. mitochondria space jelly.

I don't know about that. That's awesome. I love that shit. Big boss, I really appreciate your work that you've been doing with militaries without borders. I thank you for coming into the call and talking to us today V has come too

we love you very much and thanks for sharing your story with us I did want to say you guys are a huge inspiration and I've been listening to you guys since episode one after just around the corner oh wow that's a vampire pole that's a vampire

and I watched every single episode of the vampire podcast thank you dude it's awesome When it ended last year, I cried my eyes out because it's super important to me. I'll be watching the new one. I'll be posting. Yep, I'm watching on the new episode right now. So I'll be posting some stories in the Reddit about old town windegos and stuff that some of my friends have seen.

As we all should. Yeah. As we all should. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Thank you. We'll see you next time. Bye, bye, bye, bye, bye.

Guys, that is it. We have made it. We have made it through one. live broadcast relatively unscathed. To you, it was minor. I spent 25 minutes listening to whispers. I don't know. I don't know how to help you right now.

I was like, I feel polite and not just be like, guys, I can't hear nothing. I don't know what happened. Some were outing issue. Canasta, canasty, canasty, canatsy. Somebody on the, somebody on the, this discord put it very perfectly that you always burn your first pancake.

But the proof in this is in the pudding. We have a good little setup here that we can do now from time to time if you guys like this. Hopefully the... Fires of employees. Yeah. Hopefully the fit... Daring to give me the bad headphones. Hopefully the final export sounds a little better than this, but we'll be back with a cleaner version of this very soon for sure.

Happy L.A. month. Thank you guys so much for listening. Thank you guys so much for being patient. No smoking after 7 p.m. L.A. month. What did those post-it notes mean? That's really interesting. What's that one in the corner all about?

Who knows? Have a great day. uh we love you and uh thank you for listening and uh mathis take us out of here okay that's it appreciate you guys so much we appreciate you we love you bye bye uh have a good trip uh put the see you next fall bye bye anyway me and my wife were sitting outside indulging on our porch one night enjoying ourselves i needed to go to the bathroom so i stepped back inside and after a few moments i hear my wife go holy shit get out here so i quickly dashed back outside, she's looking at the sky in fall. I look up too, and there's a perfect line of

dozen lights traveling across the sky. Thank you. Thank you.