Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 341: Love on Alpha Centauri

Episode Date: March 15, 2026

Jesse takes Alex and Mathas back into the alien love story of Elizabeth Klarer and Akon, the extrererrestrial father of her hybrid offspring from Alpha Centauri.CHILLUMINATI is a weekly comedy podcast hosted by Mike Martin, Jesse Cox and Alex Faciane. Hold on to your tin-foil hats and traverse the realms of the mysterious, supernatural, spooky and sometimes truly horrible - and your third eye will never be the same!Subscribe to our Patreon to support us and for extra content like full video episodes, weekly Minisodes, exclusive art, and more at http://patreon.com/CHILLUMINATIPODMERCH: https://theyetee.com/chilluminatiMike Martin - http://www.youtube.com/@themoleculemindset Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - https://www.youtube.com/@StarWarsOldCanonBookClub/Editor: DeanCutty Producer: Hilde @ https://bsky.app/profile/heksen.bsky.social Show Art: Studio Melectro @ http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro Logo Design: Shawn JPB @ https://twitter.com/JetpackBragginLinks:https://www.geekslop.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/elizabeth-klarer-232x400.jpeg https://www.geekslop.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/elizabeth-klarer-232x400.jpeg https://www.geekslop.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/elizabeth-klarer-portrait-of-the-alien-akon.jpeghttps://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Light-Barrier-Autobiography-Elizabeth/dp/1891824775/ref=sr_1_1?1 https://a.co/d/021KNZ6U

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Conditions apply. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the Chulminati podcast, episode 341. As always, I'm one of your host, Mike Martin, joined by my own Leon and Claire, Jesse and Alex. Oh, my God. Leon and Claire? Yeah. Who does that make you?

Claire Redfield. I'm Mr. X. You're Mr. X? Yeah. All right. You know why? Because he's always coming after us. Hey. Hey. Hey. What? Huh. All right. Yeah. Is that good? Is that something? No. That's something. No. Seamon. Seamins. Seamins. There's something there. Is that the fastest we've ever gone? Zero to Seaman on the show? It might be. And it's, and I appreciate you taking the record from me. I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to like, you know, heighten and explore. I'm just trying to.

You're just standing and appreciate that. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, it's just about the bit. You know, just trying to see where we can get. Jesse's Claire. Oh, yeah. I look good and red. Fact.

I've seen you as May. You just, you know, you do great work. Long hair, fabulous. Long hair, big boobies. That's all we need. I'm Leon because I'm destined to like be dead inside. Have the worst life of anyone ever that ever lived. Dude, that was the man, going in on Resident 2 remake to Leon's first day, like banners hanging

out, like, welcome Leon. I'm like, this guy just was fucked from the some of the get go. His life is screwed. Anyway, we've all the play was Resident Evil, everybody. I don't know if you can tell. The new game is great. It's fantastic. Excellent.

I'm having a great time with Resident Evil Requiem, you guys. It is. It is awesome. I'm loving it a lot. It's freaking hilarious. And Monster Hunter Stories 3 is soon. It's good. We're eating good as gamers right now.

It's a good time. Sadie Capcom. Mom's got us taken care of. They do. They do. I should have played exopramal. What was wrong with me? You can be our daddies at patreon.com.

What? Oh my God. You kind of can. And mommies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no.

Anyone can be a daddy. Let's be clear. That's true. That's true. Anyone can be a daddy. Yes. But for us to call you it, that costs $10,000. I'll do it for cheaper.

I only give a shit. Jess. We're going to throw another 2K. We're going to put a 2K a month to your up there just for Jesse. No, like $3.50 and a sandwich. I'll be like, thanks,

Daddy. Much, much, much. You need the pepper, the smoked turkey from the grocery store. Yeah, like a really good deli sandwich. Yeah, throwing a little bacon, mix it up.

I don't know. Oh, the bacon? You get called down. Immediately. A little grugula. I don't know. Crispy bacon or do you like it?

Not as crispy. I'm going to need some crisp. It depends. It depends. It depends. It depends. It's the bread's crispy. Because if the bread's crispy,

I don't need the crispy of bacon. But if the bacon is the feature, you don't want it to be that crispy. But if it's a condiment, you know what I'm saying? If it's an add-on, the bacon, you want to, you want to, you want a little to go a long way with the crunch. There's thought that goes into sandwiches, man. It's brother. It's Zen, bro. In front of me and I'll eat it.

I don't really think that much about the food. That's why you're Leon. That's why you're Leon. Because he's just the same way he organizes his inventory is the same way I make a sandwich. Mm-hmm. I think you have to go buy a red leather jacket now. Yeah, yeah, you should. Honestly, you'd end up looking like everybody would think you were like doing like

Eddie Murphy maybe. Eddie Murphy? You think you'd be on your like your mat pat, your mat pat day's little Italian. I don't think they'd be like, wow, look at Eddie Murphy over here. If you got a red leather jacket that looked like Clares, you would look like Eddie Murphy from his from his stand up special. That's what I thought about Jesse is that he looks exactly like. Eddie Murphy. I thought he's got the chops. He's got the act. He's got the pipes.

When Jesse told me he was white, it was crazy. I know. It's everyone everyone no one can believe it. They're like, whoa. It's crazy. Are we allowed to talk about our live show? If not, Ed didn't edit this out, but we have a live show that we know the date of, right? We do have a live show. It's this August. Yeah. Do we know anything else that we can say not really, but expect something in the next week or two. Yeah, are we dancing around it delightfully because we know a lot more than we're letting on? Yes.

Did I bring it up not knowing how much we were allowed to talk about? Yeah. Well, like, look, there's no where to send you yet to get tickets. So like, I don't know what to tell you. But it's same places last time, still in Chicago. It's going to be fun. So please, except it's in the summer now, so you won't be freezing when you come to see us. Exactly.

Though I do love the holiday vibes of Chicago. And I love Chicago. That was my first time there last year. And that city is fucking beautiful. God. Well, now you'll get to see it in the summer. Summer. Exactly.

My sister has decided that all me, my brother, my brother, myself have to all retire to Chicago after we turn 50 so we can all live to Chicago. You guys had that magical of a time there? My sister did. My sister had that magical of a time in Chicago. She fell in love with that city. What did you guys do? Like go to a museum together and ride a tend to bicycle?

Yeah, exactly. It was a three-person tank of a like duck boat things, those d'hors. Like, yeah. Each one of us had an ice cream cone with different flavor vanilla strawberry and chocolate out holding it as we rolled our tandem bicycle. Yeah. Chicago. I'm excited. Oh, but then the person in the front, their ice cream flew back and hit the person behind him.

And then that ice cream flew back. And the last person had like a triple Sunday, but it was chocolate vanilla strawberry. Somebody came in with another cone. Yeah. I've seen that cartoon. Jesse, yeah, you were there. Anyway, welcome to the episode. Jesse, you just take the reins because this is a you episode.

It is. It is. Well, look, it's March. I'm aware. We're all aware. But the legendary love story that I began back in February, it's time to finish it. It's time to take us back to a tale of intergalactic love. Look, I'm going to say a thing.

And I think everyone listening was thinking the same thing. For a month of love, this show did not deliver. I don't know what we were doing. It was a month of sex. It was a month of dirty perverted sex. This is about love today. Oh, you're bringing in a back. Intergalactic love as told by a very sweet old woman who remembers the story of this love.

And yeah, look, it ain't going to be that purvy stuff. That's not what's going to be. It's going to be romantic. Fix a bath. Put flower petals or some shit in there. Bath bomb yourself. Way too many candles. Just straight up bath bomb yourself.

Just like go hog wild bath bombing yourself. Just cover yourself in bat bombs and jump in. Do the ice cream bit that we were just doing, but do it with bath bombs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fix up the bed. Cut it all in.

Fix up the bed, dude. And get ready. Put the bed in half. Put sheets on that thing. Stop sleeping on the mattress. Actually put sheets on there now. Get a table that goes under the side of the bed so that you don't have to put the table on the bed because the bed is unstable while you're eating.

You know what I'm saying? You know, what are you eating on that bed? and crispy-ass bacon, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. Oh, all right. That's one answer. Some tin fish. I would have got a different direction, but like,

a sea fish on like a little bit of beluga caviar. I don't know. A little. Vagina. Oh, there it is. There it is. See? Anyway,

um, today most of this is from the book beyond the light barrier from 1980, written by the person who takes place with Elizabeth Clare. but also, hey, if you don't want to read, if you're like, I hate reading for shame on you. But also, you can go to Amazon Prime and there's a documentary about the exact same name that's like an hour and a half that is roughly the story retold. It's done by a South African film team because most of this takes place in South Africa. And it's interesting, but it misses out a ton of stuff and goes really. into the here's the reasons why she's not crazy because of X, Y, and Z, which is mostly, as we discussed last time, she was in the Air Force. She, uh, like was very smart and gave

speeches. It was before like the U.N. and then, so like it does a lot of that. Like, no, this woman is not an insane person. She really was abducted. Like that's what the video was saying. Because those people who were like, this sounds familiar. We did talk about Elizabeth Claire briefly in a in an episode, not brief. There's like a. small section. This is like deep dive. So there's a lot of new shit coming. So yeah. So last time a few weeks back, we ended the episode with this tale of Elizabeth Clare. And how she was born in South Africa in 1910. And at the age of seven, while wondering outside her home witnessed according to her words, along with her sister who was there,

a flying saucer stop a meteor from hitting the planet. Apparently it was. coming right at her. Was it like, boom? Yeah, well, it just knocked it off course and saved them. With its self, with its physical self. I think it, like, I don't know. I think it like tractor beamed it and pulled it away. At least that's the way she tells it.

Okay. Okay. And then from that moment on, she was obsessed with UFOs. And more importantly, the one that saved her life. She eventually becomes a pilot. She works in the RAF. And at that point in time, while married to her first husband, she sees this UFO again.

He sees it. As we talked about last time, they report it. They say they filed reports. There's no evidence that they can find, at least researchers, that these reports were ever filed, but they swear there is an officer named the chief,

who we're not really sure last time we tried to figure out who he was. But the chief, he's named the chief. And he tells her, look, what you're doing is important. And she says, I've been practicing my to, in order to try and like communicate with the ship.

And he's like, keep doing it. You're important to the future of the world. And that's just a guy who is like, I'm putting you in charge of this thing. And so she does. She trains her mind to reach out to the ship in the hopes because she's getting bombarded with visions from this ship. And she's like, they're trying to communicate with me. So I want to communicate with them.

I mean, I'd be the same fucking way. If I was having visions from aliens, I don't think I'd go to the hospital. just try and talk to them. Yeah, then that's what she does. She, and she gets approval from the people in charge of her. If it's aliens, I know I'm not crazy.

If it's anything else, I'm hallucinating. But if it's aliens, it's definitely happening for real. That makes sense. 100%. Soon, she finds herself wanting to just leave the world,

mostly because of World War is brewing. World War II is on the way. And she's like, I hate this. I don't want to be on earth. This is terrible. So as she's like studying telepathy, she's reaching out like, what if I could leave? Right.

And then we ended with the fact that she at one point hears about a fire in an airplane hangar and she and her husband go to help put off the put out the fire. An explosion occurs. Which by the way, at this point, and I tried, man, I tried. Either her husband dies in the explosion or she just stops writing about him and talking about him. I don't know what happens to this man. She just forgot he was a character in the story. He's just gone at this point. Mind you, she marries two more times and those other two husbands, except for the fact that she has kids with one of them, they're not really featured in this story at all after this point. So this explosion occurs. She's in the hospital and she has visions of this ship.

And it's basically saying like, hey, come out to the wilderness girl. And so when you're she gets back to her home, she drinks some tea and has this like urge to go up into the mountains. And when she goes into the mountains, she meets this man and his spaceship and his name is a con, even though it definitely looks like Acon. I think Acon is way funnier. It's a con. Famous Gwen Stefani collaborator, Acon. Yes.

She begins this intergalactic love affair with this man where he basically is like, hey, I've been watching you since you were a child. Grooming. And it's sure it sounds like that, but we'll get to it. Well, don't worry. I've included a bit. It definitely sounds like I was watching you when you were a child. And for me, time is different. So it's like totally super cool.

Don't worry about it. And she feels a connection with him. And he's like, I will return to you. And I will take you to my mothership. And we will show you the universe. And she feels a connection to him now. And he's like, I know that you've been trying to reach me. And I know that you're scared, but it's okay.

I will return. This is just sort of a meet and greet, a little like our coffee shop date kind of thing up in the hill. And just check and see if the arranged marriage is going to work out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I just wanted to check and see what was up. Nice. And then between that time and when she like actually leaves to go with this man,

she just marries another dude. Oh, man. She must have just just must have slipped your mind. Don't she hate when that happens when you're about to marry someone and then you're like, oh,

I just somebody else asks you to get married and you're like, yeah, I forgot. I was just, I realized we were on a timer. I'm so sorry. Yep. In 1946,

she marries Paul Clara, which is where she gets her last name. Her first husband was William Phillips. He's the guy who saw the UFO with her. And then her last husband, by the way, she marries in 1963. Imagine Audrey Fielding.

Imagine being that guy who's there, the first husband, the one that sees the UFO with her, and then she leaves you for that? Dude, that's a tale of oldest time. That shit happens to dudes all the time. And women, too, is someone swoops in and they're like, I'm your best friend. It's like, you stole my man or whatever. It happens, man. One of my best friends lost his girlfriend to a boyfriend on a MMO. They met on an MMO and they had never men in person.

She left for him, like an alien. Anyway. Damn. Sounds a lot like Bill Tompkins, bro. Fuck. Please, Jesse, continue. So the last thing he says to her before he leaves is there's no need for you to say anything.

I know everything I've observed before. I know everything. It is a knowledge and understanding that we share. And you now belong to me. What, it was only necessary for him to wait until she was old enough. to understand and have the knowledge of the telepathy and all like the vibrations of the universe. So that's why I was waiting. I don't like that.

I just don't. I got to wait until you're ripe. I got to wait until you're ripe and you're ready and then. But until then, don't remember. Don't forget me. I mean, he says to her like to be one of us to experience the universe as we do, you have to think like we do. You were like, observed you as a child.

This is love. This is not a creature. one. This is about love. He's like, I observed you as a child with your sister in the garden of your home. And I chose you between the two of you, right then in there. He's like, in other times, I watched you falling up, dying to the skies looking for me. I watched you while, you know, lightning was crashing in the sky and all. He's like, I've always been here.

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Conditions apply. So since we left us left off, months have passed in her life since that meeting, right? And ignoring eventually when she marries another man or whatever. But anyway, she then says this. And so for this story, for today, I felt like it would be fun to have my. two gentlemen here play Elizabeth and a con. So Mathis will be Elizabeth. Alex will be a con.

My alien lover. Easy. And so so much experience says this, in relation to when eventually she is called back to meet a con. And this is what she says. Then one morning I awoke early and knew that he was coming back. I looked through the window into the depths of blue and again sense the pull of the unknown, the deep and strong call of something beyond the skies of earth.

My heart answered the magnetic pole that touched my mind. The vibration came gently out of the mysterious sky with the south wind, with the tang of the sea wind as it rustled and rippled through the long grasses of the hills, and the cool sea wind bearing the fragrance of mist, a finer entity of minute moisture cells sweeping up over the mountains. This fragrance that I had known and loved through the years now filled my being with a sudden longing to return. Possession, Calvin Klein.

So already, this is the exact opposite of what we read when Mathis was telling us about like the dude bros being like, look at a tits, bro. Same as okay, first of all, hold on, that was Alex, right? Not Mathis. Doesn't matter. You were the voice actor.

Yeah, you were absolutely innocent. And honestly, that was Agent Browns. That was Agent Brown's episode. I was just presented. The idea of like the way this is written, the way she describes it is so much more intimate in every detail compared to the guys who were like, I looked at a games. They went everywhere. And I said, this woman couldn't be from Earth because I want a banger.

Right. And this one's like so detailed. And I just want people to think about that as we go through this because it is the way she writes. It's so clear that this is definitely to her the greatest love story ever told. It is fantastic. I love everything about it. She sounds like Tolkien compared to Bill Tompkins. Yes. So when she arrives at the mountain, she sees the silver spaceship resting on the ground. Besides it is her six foot tall, blonde hair, gorgeous man. She runs down the slope, breathless to get to him.

She's like literally, it is a movie scene. The way she describes it, she said that she leapt into his arms and he swung, her about. Do you think A-Con ever got hit in the face with like a goose or anything while he was on a roller coaster? No. No. So this is the conversation they have at their

very first meaning because again, he is a little psychic. So the A is a con, that's Alex, and the M, of course, is Mathis. Not afraid this time. I have known your face within my heart all my life. I'm not from any place on

This planet called Earth. That's the conversation. That's amazing. It's just so natural. I see the chemistry is like electric. I can feel it. He carries her onto the spaceship and sets her down on a soft circular bench nearby. By the way, in the documentary, it's not in her book, but in the documentary they describe

this room as being like red carpeted. But she doesn't say it in the book, but they describe it as like, red carpeting. But anyway, he puts her down on a circular bench and nearby, another dude is at a control panel and he gives her like a smile and a nod. And she's like, he was very attractive too. Girl, relax. You're going to like this. Trust me. I can run over 20 miles per hour. He's like, his eyes are like half closed as he's saying that. My favorite color is red. Hello? So everybody's so attractive on the ship. I've been very very. She said that to Nintendo.

Great to see you. She describes the situation like this for Mathis. Yeah, yeah. I inhaled sharply. The shiny circular wall of the cabin were sealed, unlike my legs. Covers closed over the portholes with a sudden movement. And there was no trace left of them either. They were just the smooth walls illuminated with a soft glowing light as natural as daylight on the surface of a planet.

The whole girl hasn't even left Earth. yet and she's describing it on the surface of a planet like she's seen other planets. The whole cabin was lit with the soft respect to light, you know. Yeah. The effect of it was light without shadows and I saw no wiring or cables. Fresh invigorating air filled the cabin and I breathed in a higher oxygen content, immediately feeling the benefit from it. A gentle humming sound came from the ship accompanied by a slight vibration.

There was no sense of movement, but I knew we were rising slowly into the air. in that moment of wonder, I glanced at the pilot who sat at a simple control panel composed of push buttons. Dude, I'd be immediately nauseous. I feel like I was her. If I knew we were moving, but I felt no sense of moving, it's like VR, dude. I'd be like throwing up. I kind of like the idea. I kind of like the idea that like it is very similar.

You know, it's a white thing and it's very bright. It kind of hits the vibe of all the other alien stuff. But then again, this book's from 1980s. So she should just be like, I copied all that. Whatever the case maybe. She could literally watch the movie. Yeah. Like at this point.

Yeah. So she sits next to her alien dream boat. And he says to her, and this is for Alex, which this is, I think, the first time he says his name to her. My name is Akhan. I am a scientist. And my research takes me to many planets beyond our home system. Sharon, who greeted you as we came in, is my pilot.

And he is also a scientist. our home system is beyond, far beyond, this small star with its family of planets. We come from a double star system. I'll keep that in mind for later because he will bring up some details. I think Betty and Barney Hill, Betty also was shown a map of where they came from. And I believe it also was a double star system, a binary star system. I have to double check my facts. But I think it's also similar.

Now when I tell you that while reading beyond the light barrier, I kept thinking about like, you know, the way this woman describes their relationship. It gets like she talks about the details of this ship and everything she does. And I can't have you guys read it. It's too much. It's like pages and pages. It's like George R.R. Martin level of stuff. Brian Jake's talking about food at Redwall.

Yes. It's just so much. So please, by all means, if you want to get like hyper descriptive, go read that book. Anyway, she goes on to describe some stuff and I wanted to include this. This is for Mathis again. This is just some more descriptors, this time of a con. With wonder, I looked into his eyes, those fantastic, compelling eyes. I was fascinated by his strong and fine appearance, tall and strikingly handsome with a force of character.

unknown to me. Apparently he was past middle age in her estimate, but a stunning man with straight blonde hair back behind his ears, gray eyes and golden skin. He wore a silver suit that covered everything but his face and hands, but did have the coverings if needed. Yeah. So he just like, I guess, took off his gloves and mask. Uh, and the reason why is he's like, your son sucks. it is a bad son and we'll get into why later. Your son sucks. Yes. Oh yeah. Like it's part of his backstory, which is insane and I kind of love it. As a sci-fi story, this rules. As a real euphology thing, I have no clue. But sci-fi, this rocks and I'm here for it. So she is trying to think of like, what the hell do I tell this man? She is struck by his beauty in a way that she's

worried she'll say something stupid or be weird or not. not understand what he's trying to say to her. She's got like, you know, 50,000 things in her head at once. And she's trying to communicate with this guy. And he just jumps in with another conversation for you two. I love you as you are. You are now one of us. There's no need for you to say anything.

I know everything. I have observed you before. It is a knowledge and understanding that we share. And you now belong to me. It was only necessary for, me to wait until you had grown up in this knowledge and understanding. To be one of us, you must think as we do. I observed you first when you were a child, with your sister in the garden of your home in the valley adjoined in the hill. At other times, I watched you growing up,

flying through the skies of earth looking for me, and I watched while the lighting high, while the lightning high in the sky wrapped you with its purifying flame to make you mine. It has been a lifetime for me, I whispered back, gathering me into his arms. He kissed me on the lips. A magical electric current seemed to fuse us together in an eternity of ecstasy. And this is a horny book. I forgot how horny. This book was, dude.

It's crazy. In that moment, I knew that the art of love was of the mind and soul, not only of the body. Smiling at my thoughts, he put his hands gently under my chin, tilting my head back and looking deep into my eyes. We rarely made with Earth women. But when we do, we keep the offspring to straighten our race and infuse new blood. And immediately, if I were her, I'd be like, Red Flag.

Hang on. What do you mean? That's basically the plot of Superman 225 right there. Yeah, you know. So in this first date, I guess, they proceed to have this really romantic spaceflight as they look up at the ceiling, and it becomes transparent, and she's now able to see all of Earth as they zoom away from it. In her word, she calls it a real magic carpet ride.

And so he takes her into the stars, and he shows her all of our solar system. And she, of course, must describe it in her very verbose way. And this, again, is for Mathis because I'm loving this. Already. Earth showed her veiled face to us, floating in space. Her delicate blueness, lightly shrouded in white clouds, swirling in wind patterns. She rotated smoothly. Her rounded sides moving over.

The polar caps glistened white. The southern polar region large and pronounced in the northern cap smaller, but with a beauty of shifting, pulsating colors like a banner reaching into space. Her bulging waistline rotated about her flattened poles like. like a fat apple with a heavy base. The enormous power and energy of her being filled the whole viewing lens. Her night side moving over into the sun's side in a slow, smooth rotation. It's so horny.

It's super horny and it's ever so slightly repetitive. She uses kind of the same descriptive words over and over again. It's just all like she's kind of just like talking about sex all the time. Because she's horned up. She's describing Earth in like a horny way. She's honed up for this man. She walked in and even looked at the pilot and was as, yes, please. And yes, please.

And, oh, yes, I'll take him to. You horned up. Also, she describes, I meant to say, mention this. The way she describes them are very typical of the Nordic style of aliens. Tall, blonde, golden skin. It's Nordics. Yes. Just to remind you, too, here's a photo of a con.

Or not a photo. I'm sorry. A drawing of a con. I was a say, an interpretation of our dear. Man, I forgot. He looks like... This is as close as you can get to representing me with visual light. If I, this man, I don't know how you look at.

How would you describe him? Yeah, how would you describe a con to be? James Bond. James Bond, uh, villain, like the final guy at the end of a James Bond. He looks like. Grand Mawalkin is what he looks. Christoph Waltz at the end of the movie Specter. Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

this is Elizabeth Clara at one point in her life. Uh, not when she was younger, but a little later. She's looking a little, little, little, little sultry in this picture. I got to say, I mean, she lived a sultry life at this point. She's got like this, like a knowing smile is the best way I can describe it. Yeah, that's the face of

like, you'll never know what I know. Yeah, like, I've been to space and seen some things. Humans cannot compare. So they move away from Earth. And as they do, the walls change color and are no longer a viewport. And her mind starts racing a mile a minute.

Because now she's like, oh my God. I'm in space with strange men. And yeah, okay, a minute ago, I was super horny. But at this point, she has married her second husband and already has kids with him. So she's thinking in her mind, oh, my God, what happens to my children? And because she's like, I just left. I just left. And a con speaks up because he read her mind.

They're old enough to take care of themselves, your mind. now. Conn speaks up and he says this, Alex. There is no need to be nervous. We are proceeding to our mothership where you will be our guest for a short period before we escort you back to the hill on which we found you. I know what is best for you and will always look after you. My beloved. I don't, yeah. He's very, very possessive, buddy. He's very creepy. No, I need to stress to everyone who does not have a girlfriend

or wife or no woman who reads like romantician, but this is strong, like a lot of those are like dude shows up and he's like, you're mine now. It's crazy, dude. So just put it out there. This is a big trope. So her response to this, Mathis, is,

I had known the truth of it in my heart long before hearing it from his own lips. When in years gone by, I had gazed into the depths of blue with the longing I could not then define. Now I knew. the reason for my longing and why my whole being had always been aware of someone of an affinity of souls and a love to be fulfilled with wondrous anticipation and awe. I knew now that through the years he had prepared my mind for this eternal love, this love of a man and a woman.

So she is so in love with this man that she's willing to forsake all of like everyone back on earth. She's like, this guy and I, we are destined to be to. together. Good. It's really healthy. Yeah, yeah. It's very much the same thing as the end of Titanic. She dies and then is like back with Leo, but like what happened to her husband and kids? Matt, whatever. There's a lot of questions here. That's like just like a paltry life that she lived. You know, it's not the one she wanted. You know what I mean? I mean, that's what this is. So now she's in the spaceship with this dude headed back to his place, the mothership. And it's at this

time as they fly towards the mother ship that she's hit with the same thing that, you know, every single one of the I got taken by or communicated with alien stories that we cover. As she looks back at Earth and then all this gorgeous tech around her and the sleekness and the sexy, sexy dudes in the ship, she's overcome with this awareness that lasts many pages about like how kind of pathetic humans are with our petty quarrels and viciousness and selfishness and she's like we kind of all suck. We ruin each other.

And she looks at this map of the Milky Way that's in their ship and she sees that we're kind of like out in the boonies. And she's like, there are so many stars and so many worlds and so many peoples and we're just one of them. How dare we think we're special? Finally, they reached the mother ship.

And she says it's suspended like a planet with the sun casting and glow on one side, but the other side is dark facing away from it. She doesn't really describe the mothership. It's just really large and has like a dark side like the moon

and it's between us and the sun. When you say it has a dark side like the moon, you literally mean that one half of it is permanently bathed in darkness? That's what she's saying yes. What? Okay. It's that it's just a big like almost

I would say sphere thing but she doesn't really describe it all that well. Um And she doesn't say how long it took them to actually get to it. She just says they arrived. So I have no clue. What is interesting before you move on is when she describes like getting into space and suddenly like everything on earth seems stupid and silly and small. There is a known effect.

Astronauts do go through called the overview effect. That is happened to William Shatner too when he went to space. is like when something like psychologically when you get into space and you see earth like as it is your brain just is like oh yeah something just like how small we are yeah yeah and i'm saying like i think it's just it seems like a trope at this point for all space movies and books or whatever but like it is a thing that happens and it's something that we talk about often on this so she finally turns to ask him some questions because she has plenty and this is their conversation and uh Boy, oh boy. I'm going to break it down because poor Alex, what he says, man, all right, this is how it begins.

Have you been out into intergalactic space? We will need to perfect our spaceships still more for a voyage of that nature. We are now preparing it enlarging our scientific survey ships like this one. As you've noticed, this ship is shaped like a galaxy. And once we have perfected the larger spaceships, which vary in diameter, we will be able to move through intergalactic space. Our intergalactic ship is exactly twice the diameter of this one, or twice the harmonic. We are still creating still larger spaceships for interstellar and intergalactic vibratory changes in the unified field. Circular ships of this type are a duplication of nature.

They take their environment with them like a natural celestial object. How are these spaceships created? They are not just constructed in a building yard then? And then for Alex. Good luck, man. Enjoy. Holy fuck. No, not on the surface of a planet. Our spaceships are created by converting pure energy into physical substance.

And we do this in space. The material of the spaceship's outer sky. is completely smooth. Without rivets, the material is created in one piece in a continuously circular smooth shape. The radius of the curvature transforms the total mass of the spaceship's outer skin into a combination of matter and antimatter as the atomic creation of the outer skin is conducive to energizing in alternate pulses. This is achieved when the entire system is switched on by pressing that red button on the panel. A unified field of light instantly encircles the spaceship, an electro-gravitic field that

acts on all parts simultaneously, including the atoms of one's body. These field differentials interact to create a vacuum that encircles the spaceship, and it shifts without the restriction of speed and without sound in the atmosphere of a planet. The light emanating from the ship is subject to varying time and gravidic waves, either shortened or lengthened. All radiations and molecules are pushed aside in varying speeds and quantities to emit light, and the difference in speeds is perceived by the eye as colors. These micro-adams of light form an electrostatic shield around this interstellar survey ship, a ship of light, a light thrust of three beams, controls and directs its maneuverability,

and harmonic interaction. The whole is a combination of cosmic forces, electric, magnetic, tempic, and resonating. It is the harmonic interaction of the four forces of the universe, the unified field. Natural celestial object,

this ship protects her crew as a planet would, taking its environment with it through the fathomless reaches of space. Uh, I feel like I just watched like a doctor who imprinted Prove scene. Like, I feel like somebody just totally, you know, like, you know, like when you have that, you know what side talking is? Where people just like, like, do like, then the rest of me. And you're like, did you say something? Like, that's how I feel right now. I feel like I just said something. And I'm, I'm the love struck companion. It was just doughy-eyed.

Yes, doctor. Wow. Can we take me to 18, please? She is, yeah, just getting science dumped right now. Like watching a Star Trek episode where they just, rattle off some information. You just have to accept it's real. That's kind of what's happening. And he goes on, and I'm going to spare Alex from the next like four pages of this book. He goes on to describe in great detail how their tempic or time field helps maneuver the spaceship from one time field to another vibrating on various frequencies that emanate from the skins, like the ship's skin.

As the field intensifies, the ship becomes invisible. What does that even mean? to the naked eye, like either heat waves or a cloud, depending on how much vibration is going on. What? Okay. So that's, I think that's supposed to be the explanation for why we wouldn't see it on Earth. Is that, you describing, like, they're messing with a time, like, they're messing with, with the, the, the field of time around the ship. Yeah.

It's like, are they like quantum super positioning the ship is like kind of, well, we'll, we'll, we'll explain that. in a sec, because he actually gets into it. He says the ship itself has such high heat resistance and minimal friction that it has zero stress limits on speed or velocity or changing that. The ship itself is very light, but extremely strong. And he said that's also why when it lands, it doesn't leave a trace, really, because it's such a light ship, which makes me think that the wind could just blow it away, which is really funny, but because the ship's skin is, it pushes away molecules, when it lands,

wind would just go around it. If that makes any sense. Wind would go like blow as if it wasn't there. Well, because it has no friction. Right. So it would just kind of like, if I remember correctly, electrogravitic like studies is real. Something they've been looking into since the 1950s.

This is exactly what, what's his name was looking at? She's what makes her stories, and I think you're saying for the same, for similar reasons, like, this is what makes her story interesting is that the things Akon does describe are sort of kind of actually explainable by science, which is very bizarre for someone. But she's also like an airport pilot. Again, this book was written in the 80s, so there's still time that she can just read a bunch of stuff. Yes, exactly. But a lot of what's being said and will be said in this, you're like, oh, interesting, which either means it's real, which I don't believe. it's incredibly good sci-fi, which I love. You know, as a skeptic, I'm like, it can't be real.

But I do enjoy it. It's well researched. So what she, the other thing, this is what I was trying to remember, too. The other thing she's describing is loosely a theory that came in the 90s called the Al-Cubierre drive, the Al-Cubierre drive, which is a faster, a theoretical faster than light propulsion concept proposed by physicist Miguel Al-Cubierre in 1994, which manipulative. stipulate space time by contracting it in front of a spacecraft and expanding it behind it based on Einstein's field equations. Oh, that's like in some book. That's in like some sci-fi book or something.

But that came nine, that came 14 years after this book, like as a scientific like theory, which is again, interesting because what he's described, Khan is describing can loosely be understood as that. Yeah, he also says that the ship, the shielding of the ship, um, in some way also. wards off. So like if they land in, again, going back to the wind thing, if they land on earth and like they're out in the woods and an animal walks up to the ship. What happens? Well, apparently the ship itself is designed to like the shielding wards off animals. When they get close to it, they get freaked out and run away. It also kind of would describe if that's true, at least for some of these ships, when humans have interactions with these ships, shit gets weird. They feel off. Some of them actually do leave. That is that works for me. You know what I mean? It's an electromagnetic kind of like

warp a bubble around it that fucks with how your brain interacts with and interprets reality around you. Yeah. And she asked him like, okay, cool. Because again, she has some scientific background. She's a pilot. She's asking him things about flight and all sorts of stuff. She's like, well, how do you travel through space? What's it? And he tells her, and this is super interesting, and this is for Alex. And I would love to know what you guys think of this. Because I was like, oh, if it's like this. Okay, well, we'll see. All of creation is light, which is the key to the universe, the whole of existence throughout the planetary systems, the stars and the depths of energy, instead of space, is made up of visible and invisible waves of light. The scene and unseen, to all energy, substance, liquids, gases, and all life, the release of micro atoms of light from oxygen is the source of all life.

The electromagnetic wave form or light forms the building blocks of the carlux. cosmos in which we have our being as microatoms of light and greater unities are equal to atoms. Light is an intelligent energy that can be thought to exist into existence and substance, like the Green Lantern, I guess. The pattern of the micro atoms of light alters with changing thoughts when one achieves the formula for the harmonic vibration of light. The key to all life and the universe lies in the harmonic interaction of light. A mathematical formula for all transportation lies in the vibratory frequencies of the light harmonic

with anti-gravity waves and time waves, which are simply the frequency rate between each pulse of the spiral of light. By controlling this frequency rate, the flow of time can be varied, and one simply moves within one's environment, within the protection of the spaceship, instantaneously from one planet to another or one's solar system to another. time the geometric is controlled or eliminated again it's very poetic and like extremely overwordy but he is described like he is describing quantum field like electron like at a quantum level everything is dictated by the interaction of photons between quantum matter like it is quite literally the universe is is at a quantum level light in in a very fundamental way i get a very basic or simplified way.

And that's, that's what's interesting. That's kind of vibe. He is saying like, he quote unquote could be just her. Because again, she is educated in science, uh,

scientists and stuff. But like she is describing essentially that. Yeah. It's fascinating that he just drops on her like, we are all luminous beings. Very Yoda. You're like, whoa.

All right. And she's like, yeah. And that's how we travel. We travel by like, like, we, we basically,

use light to get around because everything is light. And if everything's light, then you can be kind of here and then over there because you're light. And so she asks what, you know, he's talking about when he says, you know, time as a geometric is controlled or limited. And so she says, And the speed of light, is that also a geometric? We speak of the measure of light, not of the speed of light. Light gives the illusion of velocity when in reality is a pulse, resonating in the frequencies of time and gravity. Thereby, our galaxy is created in the universal geometric harmonics of

light. Light is a universal geometric. Time and gravity, or a reversal in the flow of time and anti-gravity can be achieved by altering the energy of light pulsing through space, through the atmosphere of planets, and throughout all

creation, as micro-adams of light form the atoms of all gases, liquids, and solids. Hologram universe. Bang. simulation dude matriacist yeah no it's very much that like it's also like another of like physicists theories that like we we see light moving but only because it's through our own understanding of space time but if light is always again yeah it's holographic theory it's block universe theory that like everything there is no past present future it all exists now in our

consciousness or is just kind of sliding through it linearly it's this is a show i don't know i love this shit like it's one of those conversations I can have forever that lead to nowhere. Right. Yeah, we just don't have the knowledge. We don't have the fundamental, like, we aren't out there in it. We're stuck back on the egg, you know what I mean? Yeah, exactly.

So he goes on to say that, you know, we on earth have to deal with friction. And that's why our designs for flight and travel are, you know, we're constrained. And the, blow things up. Yeah, he's like, if you could learn to push molecules aside as we do, you. you would be frictionless and then you could travel through space like we do. That's how we do it. I'm just thinking of Frank Reynolds. He's not saying it's smooth, smooth, smooth, smooth.

He's got to be smooth. But he says essentially like, look, we are advanced. We're advanced as shit. But only because we figured out a few key things that you guys simply haven't. And more importantly, we're still working on trying to get to another galaxy. We aren't even there yet. We can't be intergalactic. But we are interstellar.

we are in our solar system doing our stuff, but we can't go. It's just not, we're not ready for it. But like if you guys could get to where we're at, you would see everything so differently. And you would have such a better existence and better time in our universe. He's again,

he's poetically also like doing, again, a lot of stuff he's just saying, he's saying unnecessarily like convolutedly. But he's also like implying that antimatter is matter moving backwards in time. Like that's also part of it, which is like a weird. I think it's also,

I think that's a physicist thing. Like a potential theory of one? No idea, bro. That is like, what did you say? So gravity moving backwards in time, bro. What does that even mean? Anti-matter moving backwards in time. Is matter moving backwards in time?

Yeah, anti-matter is moving. Reverse to entropy. That sounds like a Star Trek block. Because I think he's also like explaining time isn't, again, time isn't just linearly forward. It's the idea, as Jesse said, as Alex said, holographic, universe theory, block theory. Like, if we can just understand that time,

we can structure. flow, it's a structure, then we can start moving forward. It's like a train station. I mean, we only understand time conceptually in the way we get it, which is time is linear. But time's arrow. And now that we're getting into the part of, you know, pop culture where we talk a lot about like black holes and wormholes and stuff, more and more people that are open to the idea that like, if I were to travel to another solar system at the speed of light, I would be still the same age. by the time I returned, you'd all be dead. Yep.

And that's like how time works is we perceive it personally. Unless like again, if you're leaving the planet and you are moving without time understanding, you could leave and then come back in an hour and you would have been gone for like 10 years. But we may, it only been an hour for us because you're sitting outside of time. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And that plays a role in this. We'll get to that.

So she asked him like, okay, okay, let me see if I understand. what you're saying here. Like the tunnel or ionized path that lightning creates and uses as a channel through the air from ground to cloud? My beloved, it can be a duplication of nature. If we can find all the answers to atmospheric and space travel within the simplicity of nature, so could humankind of Earth find these answers. So he's kind of hyping, like, yeah, you guys could.

You're not that different from us. You can do this. Cool stuff. You must get on the right level and chill the full. fuck out like us. That's honestly his whole thing. Yes. Yes.

Completely. Then you can be fucking cool space guys and get on this pee. I mean, he says he literally, the next whole bunch of the book is like he talks about how the harmony between body and mind and nature is the whole point. And it all must work together. And that's the kind of thing that is holding us back from being on their level, which is why it took him so long to talk to her.

And again, this goes back to the whole grooming. thing that Mathis was saying. He says the reason I, when I saw you when you were seven, because time doesn't have anything do with me, I didn't see you as seven year old. I saw your entire life. He's like Dr. Manhattan. I was already kissing you on your 18th birthday when I saw you at seven years old. And there isn't that much time between the two of them. You think about it. And he's like you, I knew what your life was going to be. I knew who you were. And I was helping you unlock this power. That's why I was coming to you in visions. I was trying to get you to unlock your psychic potential because that's the connection that we can have and that all

humans should have is you should be one with each other. They always fuck it up though, man. They always like, I'm just trying to unlock your potential. How vague visions? How am I supposed to unlock my potential by not knowing what you want from me? What do you mean? It makes no sense. In this case, I think it was because she went to the chief who was like, you got to keep doing this kid. because she was like, what does this even mean? Why am I doing this? And that guy, who I'm convinced at this point, was probably one of the aliens who was like, it's up to you.

But I don't know. It's up to you. So he's like, I needed you to be ready to meet me, to understand the universe, to actually be able to experience reality with me. And they continue on for some time talking about like mankind's potential. And he straight up says things like your politicians are destroying your world, which yeah, okay. Like, all right.

Got us. Nickto, Baradou. I'm so sick. Can aliens please come up with a new message? We all know this already. Yeah. Please do something. We're aware.

Either do something about it or shut the fuck up. No, you must do it. Show me what you got. The Bell Air Direct app includes crash assist, which detects an accident the moment it happens, and even offers you emergency assistance at the tap of a button.

Okay, but what if I, don't have an accident. Well, just keep on, keeping on. Bel Air Direct, insurance, simplified, conditions apply. Eventually, they dock with the mother ship. And the way she describes it, you know, so like, again, the ship is barely described, but he says it looks kind of like a galaxy, which I just imagine is flat. Like octopos?

Like what are we talking about? Yeah, like a UFO? Like a giant mothership. And in my mind, the best way I could think of it is, you know, in, um, in, Independence Day when the mothership like drops the other little ships. Yes. That's kind of like how I imagine they dock is that he's basically they connect to the outside of the mothership.

And she finally asks like, what are we doing here? And I just thought this was such a funny interaction I had to include it for you too. Am I to be scientifically examined to? My dear. Enough. Enough questions. Get on my shit, girl. Like that's crazy.

You are annoying me. Yeah. Get on the get get on. But am I? Are you going to take a tool? Shut up. Are you going to? Shut up.

It's on. Okay. Okay. So he picks her up and carries her in his arms to a door that just kind of slides open into the mothership. And he puts her down in the center of a group of people. One of them, a woman looks at her and says, she has slant eyes and golden hair.

She is a descendant of our original stock we left on earth. Another man approaches, grabs a con, and he says, welcome, old dear brother. And his name is Habin or Habin, and he's Akon's a con's brother. Welcome. It's having to the family, dude. This is the child you told us you were grooming. I mean, waiting to become of age. You saw so long ago and yet so recently, brother.

They guide her to this spacious room with glowing illuminated panels. And she says the air was so fresh it felt like being outdoors. And there's these sapphire walls that she said reminded her of the depth of sky. There's exotic trees strewn about. The entire floor, she said, was covered in a wealth of soft blue grass. They sit down to eat. I guess he, like, invited her home for dinner. They sit down to eat.

And to her surprise, a golden tray of delicious salads and fruits appears in front of her just, just exists, along with long-stemmed crystals containing a golden juice, which she described thusly for Mathis. The fruit juice was simply lovely with a flavor of ripe pomegranates. The salads consisted of delicate, bright green leaves and various cut vegetables mixed with crisp nuts, flavored with almonds and spices with a creamy dressing sprinkled over. Crisp, juicy fruits like large apricots and thin slices of moist, fresh oat bread, completed the most delicious meal I had ever had.

Honestly, it doesn't sound bad. I don't know how they have space apricots, but like it sounds good. It literally sounds like Redwall at this point. Like, I was joking earlier. Now we're just fully there. Like, this is just literally Redwall. This is a lot of this book, because you think, think like oh i'm going to read this like awesome romance a lot of this book is this guy imparting

knowledge on her and almost a fatherly way which is like a little creepy it's weird because it does come off sometimes of being like wait did this if something like this maybe happened because this is not as romancy as i thought like the guy genuinely does a lot of typical alien things of being like you know the typical messages uh you know imparting knowledge as to how all this works and it's just like, wait, hang on. Like, this weeks of like familiarity and abduction cases. He is dropping lore bombs on her. And in every reaction, she's like, doughy-eyed, super-indled.

Again, it feels very romanticcy where it's like, the Ravenlord kidnapped me, but now I'm in love with him. And the Raven, and it's like, what? It's, yeah, it's straight up like Twilight or any of those books where it's like this tough man from space took me away and made passionate love to me. and I realized he was the one for me. It's same vibe. But you have children.

My children will be fine. They'll be okay. They'll be fine. They then proceed to, and the way she describes, it just sounds like wall scrolls, but they move. Yep. And they watch life on earth. And he tells her, like, this is how we watched you.

This is how we watch everyone. And I don't know if these are like videos or live feeds. I don't know, but she's like, oh, I know that place. And I know that place. He's like, yes, we've been watching you for some time. Betty and Barney Hill, well, Betty, Barney had a terrible time. Betty Hill had an experience where she was abducted and she was shown weird moving holographic things that showed her the history of earth and stuff like that.

The woman we covered prior, which her whole family got frozen in place. She was shown the glowing Bible and stuff. And it is, again, similar line that runs. through things they see that is weirdly, you know, from a perspective can be seen as being interpreted by their lens of understanding. Like the person before had the Bible and the Bible made sense to her and she got her own book that she got to keep for a week that she got to read from. And Betty got weird like holographic like slabs.

She's getting scrolls, but they're all serving the same purpose. Yeah. And it's fucking weird. Bizarre. That I think it's fascinating because it absolutely has the vibe of like either she did research, before she started writing. Mm-hmm. Or maybe something happened.

I don't know. But I like, I love the idea of this. And, uh, yeah, it's, it's very entertaining.

A nutty story. So as they sit there watching, she asks about, you know, their home planet. She's like, okay, this is Earth,

but you know, what's going on in your world? And he literally just is like, I'll have to take you one day. What am I going to meet your parents? He's like, girl, I got you.

I'll take you one day. But not today. and he holds her and for the first time she feels like she belongs somewhere and then he whispers what i want to say is game but also is like he's always been doing just lore bombing her yeah everything he says is game to her this is this is him putting on some game so Okay, some game. Here we go. Love is a force, a being that needs understanding. Love is the electric force of life, the very breath and essence of life. Love is the flame of eternal beauty. Love is wonderful. And by love, one achieves supreme happiness. People who cannot love

become spiritually and physically ill. Not for them the riches of the soul. They live contrary to its laws, thereby misunderstanding the true meaning of love and how it is food and life to the soul. Love needs to manifest within, to radiate outward, encompassing all within its radiating field

as the star of our system encircles the inner planets within its vast corona. The love all things is to enforce, oneself within this magnetic field of positive existence to commune and become one with nature and live in harmony with the universe. One is alerted to the pulse of life and answers stream into the brain telling us what to do and how to live. Once we are tuned to the pulse of life or life, we move in harmonic rhythm with our galaxy in the universe and there's no need for hate, dissension. People on earth do not understand this. In the fair land,

of earth are swept by the mass and sanity of its peoples. The average human being on earth does not live long enough to attain great understanding and wisdom, ignorance, and fear still remain, fear from which hate and wars breed. It is your environment that breeds the impassive cruelty that manifests itself in human nature. Mankind's ego has always been bolstered up with the idea that his must be the only advanced and civilized race in the galaxy. Humankind is a creature of space. Humanity is a space race. Living on a planet in orbit around a star as others are also doing,

mankind is not unique as he so fondly imagines. Yeah, that's not spitting game as much as it's like, let me explain why you're not special and why you're all a bunch of kind of morons because you have a short life span. No, dude, he absolutely... I'd fuck that guy. like he he does like a like a compliment sandwich kind of situation he's also nag him a little bit he's like you're not all your people aren't all that special you're stupid little baby people yeah yeah but I love that he also implies the reason as humans

don't live long enough like our our lifespan isn't long enough to reach the point where we're like oh a lot of this shit is so pointless and I can kind of see that like a lot of like when people get really old is when they realize yeah as death as they're on death story maybe it's because death is right there but it takes something like that to shock you into realizing, oh, shit, everything I thought I gave a shit about was actually meaningless. And the whole point was to be with people I care about and enjoy joy life. And I think I was heard in one's like meditation, I think it's a midnight mass, right?

Meditation is a practice in preparing. Midnight gospel is totally different. Yeah, meditation is a practice in preparing for death. And the idea of like eliminating the ego and understanding that all these things that you worry about are literally pointless. And it is a fascinating point to be like, yeah, humans just don't live long enough to figure this shit out. Like, they just are not living.

But then you can't be mad at us, bro, because if that's the reason, stop shitting on us. It's not our fault. Help. He loves to shit on mankind. That's the thing that he will continue to do. And that's why we're never moving forward. You know what I'm saying? But it's a cons fault.

But it's also the other fascinating thing in real life, what is it, the 80 year cycle that humanity tends to repeat tragedies and like same crimes against ourselves in 80 years because the people who lived through it the first time forgot who stopped it built all the systems to stop it die pass away only becomes stories to us younger ones that's why we're living through like stupid fucking a hitler too like it's the dumb version of it because all the people who live to fight against fascism and stop it like in where we lived are now gone and the propaganda works on uneducated people yeah yeah it it's very interesting interesting, you know, when you talk about length of life and the way people change, everyone,

except for the most absolutely like broken people. Everyone is different from who they were at 10 or 20 or 30. The more you age, even at like 40, you look back at your 20s and go, yikes, dude. I feel like 40 is when you finally like come online. Yeah. I, it really does feel like that because there's, there's parts of you that you have to let like die as you grow up. If you're, if you're, if you're somebody who's open to changing and like growing and being, you know, allowing yourself to be wrong.

There are aspects. Yeah. You have to make fuck ups and then make the really fucking hard decisions that almost feel like you're killing a version of yourself to have a better future that you don't have yet. And like, then you look back after you're through with that and you're like, oh, I'm not that person. That person is. It seems so dramatic and important then too. Like if I make this change, everything about like, no, man, you just made a better life choice. and X number of years later, you look back and you're like, oh, yeah, no, that was really stupid that I thought that would work out.

Or that would, you know, like, absolutely. But it's true. Like, yeah, like, I wonder another hundred years tacked onto our life what that would look like in terms of just like what we, who we would be philosophically as a people. I promise you would be different going back to the 80 year thing you're talking about. If all the World War II vets were still alive, they're middle age now, seriously. Yeah. Like, none of this would happen. And the world would not be like things would 100% be different.

Just simply like if all of this would still be alive, like shit like that. You should have made them into AIs of themselves faster. We're going to learn from them, kept them around. Yeah. But it's, I do love that point. And again, like, you know, I know he's spitting game in a weird way, but it's weird what he's saying because it is just similar messages from different weirdly non-human intelligences.

He's right, you know. Yeah. The grays show up. You know, he's right. He's right. You know, he's quite right, you know. So he goes on to warn her that, you know, if we don't change our ways, terrible things are going to happen. And that calamities happen in our solar system all the time.

And this is where I was like, oh, yes, we're in the kind of sci-fi I love. We're going to get full on lore now. He says to her that our son, the reason why they left. Oh, well, I should start with his people are originally. from Venus. That's their mother world. Oh, shit. Okay. That's the same as Valiant Thor, who looks kind of similar to what these guys supposedly look like. If Valiant Thor was like, had like early empire vibes, then yeah, like early galactic empire vibes. Yeah, he was a Venusian, supposedly as well. And so. Venus was a world that was populated. And this is kind of around the time when

earth was still Gupin primordial soup, right? There's not much happening on Earth. Soup, Earth. Yeah. Soup World. And they're on Venus. And what they discover is that

our singular sun apparently create cyclical like, I don't know how to describe this. There's a cyclical nature to every planet in our solar system and it goes through changes. Does he say like, so?

Like essentially, Jupiter, for example, will one day become a sun. He says that, uh, uh, you know, Venus was once inhabited planet. And now it's kind of like a waste land. I see. He says that, uh, Mars was one of their big colonies. And now it's not. And, um, originally what happened is as the sun was like messing with their stuff. Because he says, like, we didn't destroy our world. It was destroyed by the like the solar system and the cycles here. Um, but Mars, he isn't really sure about. He makes, it seems like maybe there was an accident or something happened on Mars. But what he does say is

most of the people on Venus left to go into the stars and find a new home because they were like, we need to find a place where the suns are stable enough that we don't have this weird-ass cycle that is caused by our sun. So they are at one with the fact that there are cycles, but they still don't want to die from them. Right. They were like, let's get out of here. But the people on Mars, because Mars was still habitable and still great, they stayed. And so it was just like people left. Some people stayed. And some people moved to this now very early on Earth.

And they were the first Earth-like people, right? So that, you know, timeline-wise, I would assume post-dinosaurus is when they did this. Yeah, I guess. No way, dude. I've seen the movies during dinosaurs. Right, right. I've seen the Flintstones. And so this makes Elizabeth.

The Stone's a soft disclosure. So sorry. No, this makes a little extremely excited. Elizabeth's like, oh, my God, these aliens really are just our galactic neighbors and they're proto-humans. They're basically us, which is why they're so beautiful and handsome. It's that kind of trope of like, were the devolved grunguses of those beautiful humans that more existed? Yeah. Uh-huh.

Their new world is in Alpha Centauri. How perfect. And he comments that it would take four years by light speed as humans. understand it to reach this world. But for his people, travel is instantaneously. He says it's a binary star system, but there's another star that they use mostly. And so it's technically a triple system that they use mostly. So his planet's closer to the single star, but there's two other much bigger stars. What do they use it for? To live, I guess. I'm assuming like, I'm imagining it's like that outer star is orbiting the two.

bigger stars and it's probably smaller in some way. And then their planet is stuck in the in the gravitational pull of that one. Well, you can look this up because we'll get to in a second. You can actually kind of look stuff up. So that's yeah, that's the weird part. He says that there are seven planets in total, all of them inhabited now because they've terraformed and done stuff. But it took them a long time to find it, which is why those on Mars stayed behind and some went on to eventually settle on Earth. Eventually, he's like, look, this has been fun. I'm going to take you home now.

I hope you enjoyed this little trip to the mothership. And she's like, what, what, what, what do you, what do you mean? You're not even going to tell me why Mars needs moms? Yeah, they aren't even, they aren't even doing it. There's no intergalactic lovemaking. Instead, she just feels a connection between the two of them at like an atomic level. Like they are connected forever. They would go on to have adventures on horse.

I'm going to skip through the middle part of the book, because it is straight up like a spy novel. It's crazy. You say a horse? They have horseback adventures on Earth. They frolic in the hills and meadows. He learns more about her. She learns more about his people.

Their love deepens. Now, during this time period, if you're wondering, like, what happened to her, like, kids and family,

she goes, she just tells them. She goes back and says like, yo, I went to space with my space boyfriend. I went to space. Sorry about that. And they're cool with it.

And we'll come back to that later because she apparently like leaves her kids a lot all the time. Okay. And it's also during this part of the book where it kind of gets into thriller territory where there's straight up like a Russian dude trying to like find and capture the spaceship. There's a French Air Force guys who are like one day we shall find it. Why is this like turn into a Muppet movie, dude? It is pure twilight drama at this point. It's very, it's very weird. Resently.

We're all here for the sex. We're all here for the space romance. So we'll get back to that. So one night during a thunderstorm, she's covered in rain, of course. Oh, so slick. Yeah. Of course. And he shows up and whisks her away, takes her inside the ship.

She removes her clothes in this private room. It's all soaking wet. And a bathtub appears before her. And it begins to fill with green foaming water. She says, that when she got in the water, some of it got in her mouth, and she said it tasted salty and mineraly.

And she was convinced it must contribute in some way to their long life. But she said she didn't need soap or anything, because I guess the properties of the water were soapy enough that she, like, scrubbed herself down. She got all that from a bath? From a bath. Then she gets out of the bath. She's standing there, drying herself off.

And I guess, like, wind blew on her. She, like, got wind started blowing. Lastinger. Like back to the future? The jazz. Yes. Yeah. And so, she stands looking in a mirror. And as she does, the con comes up behind her and, like,

grabs her and starts, like, he grabs a chunk of her hair and starts sniffing it. Sweet. Then he holds her close. Hot. And he gives her a ring with a great stone, as she calls it, a stone of light in the middle. And he says to her, the following, this is for both of you. It's too large for you, my beloved.

one, so we'll place a half band of silver within it. I want you to wear it always as a part of me to maintain our telepathic communication for all time. I could feel and sense the magic properties emanating from the ring. Akhan put his hand under my chin, tilting my head up and back, and he kissed me with a long and lingering kiss on the lips. That's a terrible sentence. Picking me up in his arms, he carried me to the silken platform by the curved wall. Its firm softness supported our bodies with luxurious comfort as I gave myself to the man from outer space. My beloved, my life. Oh, that was for you there, Alex.

Can you whisper that like you're putting your dick in me? My beloved, my life. Acon whispered again and again as I surrendered an ecstasy to the magic of his lovemaking. My beloved, my life. My beloved, my life. I don't like that. My beloved, my life. Our body's murder.

just in magnetic union. As divine essence of our spirits became one. And in doing so, I became a whole. So they. A nice soft, firm mattress where he gave me a kiss as he kissed my lips. Like, yeah, all right, good. They make love. And when they're done, this isn't like banging.

It's like the most romantic love making. She feels her soul, connect with his on like a cosmic level. And she's like, he put a baby inside. me, right? It is the mystery of the dance. And then, the minute they're done, a con takes a moment to just shit on Earthmen. It's crazy.

Alex, this is for you. The true purpose of mating is not only for the reproduction of offspring, but to retain and satisfy opposite forces of electricity so that these elements may fuse and retain nature's balance between the sexes. One is not balanced without the other, and it is because earthmen misunderstand these truths

that there is so much suffering, ignorance, and primitive superstition and fear regarding sex. The purpose of mating is not to have biological offspring alone. Mating is forever to retain the balanced whole between male and female. Each is necessary and vital to the other. So he's like woke. He's like woke mapping, dude. Yeah, he's like, look, sex for sex is fun.

And, you know, that's the vibe. He's like, you earthmen, trash. You're just doing to have kids. First off, wrong at con. He's like, wrong. I'm reading this and I'm like, is he describing our earth? Because that's like, what year? That's not what meant me.

So this, when she gets pregnant, it is. Earlier. Yeah, it is like 195 or 54, some like that. So he's right. No, maybe it's 58. It was time for a revolution. And he was right. Sexually, he was right.

Yeah. Technically, he's describing the moment. Yeah. after they make love, he takes her back to Earth and she's pregnant with his space baby. And he tells her, look, I'm going to come back and I'm going to take you and the kid to my world. And at this point, more of the military show up and they're after him. And she's like, you'll never catch him. He's my space boyfriend.

Finally, he comes back. He returns to her as she's driving her MG, like, up in the mountains? He like appears in the car? No, he like his ship shows up. He literally, he literally is like, fucking off the road. Hey, I'll store your car, my cargo hold.

We're going my whole world right now. So she just leaves. This is 1959 that she leaves. And she takes off into space. And she, as they're traveling through space, they, you know, probably make out a bunch more. Hell, yeah. They're having this whole love affair thing.

But again, it doesn't take long to get there. And then when she sees it, she describes, as for Mathis, she describes his world as this. And then I saw her another brilliant sphere, another home of life, another island moving in the vast void of space, another Venus. This was Meton or Venus 2, the home of an advanced race of people. Venus 2. Yeah, Venus 2, way easier. to say. A world of gentle climate and gentle people. Vast seas of sapphire blue and emerald aisles and an atmosphere similar to Venus when it had lived, harboring the beginnings of this fantastic

race of people. Other planets could be seen with their bright atmospheres, moving with a slow and graceful purposefulness around the small golden star. The star moved with its retinue of seven planets in orbit about the two great stars. Well within the tremendous corona of this magnificent star, known to Earth people as Alpha Centauri. Cool. So the planet in particular is very Earth-like. And that's kind of interesting because in Alpha Centauri, there have been a lot of Earth-like things looked at.

And one of them is called Proxima Centauri B, which was discovered in 2016, which is 4.2 light years away. And Proxima Centauri B orbits Proximaqs, Centauri, which is that single star, which is part of a triple star system of a centauri. Now, scientists are like, if any life did exist on that, the radiation probably effed up really bad. And for those of you are curious, the original discovery of Alvin Centauri was back in 1689 and Proxima was discovered in 1915.

So it isn't like this was something she just said and then later was discovered. But the whole, there's an Earth-like planet there was 2016. Anyway, she lands and she realizes she lands on the roof of a con's home, which I could describe for you, but I'd rather you to describe it from this image she had made of what it was like. Can't wait to see this. Okay. So it looks like a like oil smell, oil dispersing like thing. It straight up looks like a butt plug with the bottom part. Okay.

It literally is shaped perfectly like a butt plug with a little like wide plug. with a little like wide part part to stop it getting slipped into your rectum at the very top instead of it going to a tip it goes to a flat circle which is where he lands yeah which is where he lands and imagines the butt plug is hollow and that's his house it looks like yeah it literally looks like those like plug in like or like you know where you pour like some kind of oil in and it like burns up and like puts it in your house a disperser yeah yeah yeah apparently no windows air like it has like most it's mostly window right it says it here that the air and light pass through translucent material it's just like floating

platforms in the air basically in like a drop yeah and there is a wall but it's not really a wall it's some sort of like I don't even know how to describe it it's see through and what am I looking at here what what's what's going on with this staircase it doesn't look right the staircase it says on here that it like floats and lights up like a water slide I doesn't know it doesn't Oh, yeah, the illustration, it has no handrails. It looks, it looks troublesome. Staircase slopes gradually suspended without supports. So it's just there.

Interesting. Yeah. And he lets her, you know, come into his home and he says, this home is your home. She meets his full family who are all beautiful. And he gives her a necklace made of pink pearls. Give her a pearl necklace. And then he says to her, Alex. Their light will give you light always, wear them always with the ring, and our communication

will remain unbroken forever. My chosen one, these pearls were left in the casket by my mother. She left them for my chosen one, whom she knew would come from another planet. How long? How long is their lifespan? Long, very, very long. And also, time works differently for them. So that's how he's like, I saw you when you were a kid, but I always,

also knew you as an adult kind of thing like okay yeah all right apparently his house was also constantly playing music and he told her because music is the universal language and vibrations keep the house feeling good plants grow from it people love to it's kind of how i feel too though yeah and he says it's comforting and beautiful i vibe out to music most of the time it's pretty same big same she then describes the world and people in detail because even though she doesn't mention it here. And this is huge, by the way. She spends nine years there.

Just straight up. Living. Living on this planet. And also, you know, giving birth to her child and all sorts of stuff. So she says this about the world, which I thought was kind of interesting. The homes of the people of met in or me, Tom, I can't, I can never remember. Yeah, maybe meeting. I don't know.

I just call it Venus 2. Okay. Yeah. The homes of the people of Venus 2 were not. more than three stories high I learned, but they only lived in the first two floors. The top story was used for the kitchen and storerooms. They preferred to live in sleep close to the ground. It was healthier to do so, and it allowed them to retain the magnetic impulses emanating

from the planet. There were no cities or skyscrapers as earth people know them anywhere on Meaton. Homes were scattered in park-like grounds amid flowering shrubs and beds of brilliant flowers. The smooth green lawns needed no cutting or trimming as the grass covered the ground like a springy moss. Here was an abundance of all things needed by civilization, food, water, all materials for building, an unlimited supply of energy on tap from the atmosphere and the universe. There were no shortages of any kind and no monetary system at all. It was a perfectly organized way of life with an abundance of all things.

The inhabitants tended and cared for all aspects of life within this great and powerful civilization. There were no films of violence, horror and murder, and there were no drugs, drinking or smoking. I don't know about that. There were no comics for children full of the... Alex, oh no, dude. I'm sorry if you can't say it again. There were no comics for children full of the horrors of life on earth, a corrupt civilization with a past and present satiated with cruelty, slavery and a horrifying record of shooting and violence.

All this type of thing, the way of life on earth, was taboo on Meaton. There was no spicy foods, no foreign smells. Nobody wanted to see it. It was unnecessary. Something only for barbarians, loathsome and savage foes who howled at the gates of their neighbors. I don't know about the, I mean, I don't know. She's kind of turning into like, I am legend by the end of this. Like she's like she's getting turned into Matheson character.

It's like I get like it's interesting in that if you look at our media a lot of the time the violence is usually served most of the time served in a way to get to a point where violence is no longer necessary. Right. Like that's always the plot line is to get to a point where violence is no longer necessary and maybe it's a humanity's coping mechanism with how violent we are as like a species. But the drugs and the smoking, I mean violent video games is pretty fun. like I don't know like that stuff we maybe it's just our our lizard brain is still too unenvolved to not enjoy like ape take rock hit thing hard you know like that's fun yeah um and comic books what would a comic book be without that it's interesting to me that Calvin Hobbs it seems like a pretty sanitized society yeah it's like everyone here is a perfect tall

white which again is that weird racist it's weird because she's also from south africa at a where, you know, I don't know. So it's a very strange thing happening. But like, okay, sure. She looks around. She's like, man, this is going to be a lovely place for my son to grow up. By the way, she discovers she's having a boy. And she's like, I can't wait for him to get here, you know, for a con to raise this child.

And she travels with a con to all the other planets. She like visits all the other planets in the system. They travel around. They spend nine years just kind of like doing their thing. But of course, before all that, their son is born. And they have a conversation that is literally it sounds like a scene from Twilight. And I'm just going to put it here for you too. This is how they name their kid.

All son needs a name. A name that means something to you and something to me. Shall we call him ailing? His name must begin with an A like yours. And it means noble, a prince of the royal. blood, for indeed he already has that beating and manner and together with gentleness and humility. You have chosen well.

The names sound like our names. We shall now gather everyone and celebrate this wonderful occasion. It sounds just like Rinesme or whatever the hell that girl's name is in Twilight, where they just like mash some names together. It's nonsense. Anyways may is crazy. Yeah. It's like a boss from Castlevania.

A celebration takes place where as she puts, it many luminaries from across their great civilization come to watch the birth of their sun. Also, I think earlier I said, let me, you two probably know better than me, intergalactic still is within our solar system or our galaxy. Within the Milky Way. Yeah. Okay. What is galaxy to galaxy?

So they can travel interstellar. Interstellar. I was reversing it. Sorry. That's what I meant. For some reason that popped in my brain right now. I don't know why. 80.

That's wrong. Yeah. So. Which makes sense, though. I mean, that's crazy. I mean, yeah, I guess the distance between galaxies is enormous. Yeah, they couldn't travel between galaxies, and that was an issue for them. The Bell Air Direct app includes crash assist, which detects an accident the moment it happens,

and even offers you emergency assistance at the tap of a button. Okay, but what if I don't have an accident? Well, just keep on, keeping on. Bell Air Direct, insurance, simplified. Conditions apply. So, like, people are traveling from all over the seven planets to see this baby be born, because this is like the first technically earth child, one of their old stock of people,

which is crazy. And so they all show up. And people from all over these worlds are like, hey, this child's to come be raised on our world. And he'll learn this and this and this. And then the scientists are like, well, he should come work at the academies.

And he'll learn this and this and this. And a con steps in because he can tell that she's freaked out. And a con steps in is like, no, I shall raise this boy. And I shall be his men. mentor and he shall travel with me and learn of the universe. And everyone's like, oh, okay, which is insane that that's what they have to do. But like, okay.

Yeah, that's weird, I guess raised by village mentality. It's so like from a book. It is. It's what's weird about the story is it's like it's such a romance novel. But in it, our, a con is just fucking a weird and normal abduction alien. And I just wonder if like her perspective or reality or a consciousness or whatever built her this experience through her in a way that she was like desperate for or wanting or it's just the way her brain made it. I don't know because there is stupid dumb shit to this book that is

just like romance novel bullshit. And then a con speaks and you're like, well, that doesn't, a lot of the time what he says doesn't fit the themes she's presenting in the book. Right. He just says stuff. He'll like look at her and be like, I'm going to say some stuff to you right now. And she's like, Yeah, exactly. She surrounds that with description of like how love she is with this guy. And I'm like, what, what happened to you? Like, for real, what happened to you? However, there is a problem.

So this planet is not conducive with her physiology at all. And he tells her, look, your heart is a mess. You're going to be a mess. We can put like a thing in you that will stabilize you, but you will for the rest of your life for coming here, even back on Earth, be recovering from this trip. Dude, that'd be good to know before you took her, by the way. Like, what a fucking dick. And he's like, the only thing I can do, he's like, you'll live a life, but you will be

affected by this, but you can't stay here or you'll die. So I'm going to send you back to Earth. I will raise your son, our son. And I will visit you telepathically and I'll watch after you. And one day, your son will come and take you back. And you can come return and we'll travel the stars together. Right. And so he takes her home.

After nine years of living on, Meton, met on, she goes home. Here's the thing that's interesting. She says it was nine years, but for the sake of, she was not going to long.

Yeah, for everyone involved, it's been four months. Yeah. Literally four months. I thought it was three in my head. I was off. But it's crazy.

Yeah. And she wasn't sad to leave her son. She's like, she's going to grow up. Like he's an immortal and is going to grow up with an immortal father. And, you know, there's so much love between them. And so she accepts. And they go back to Earth. And when they land on Earth, he says to her,

breathe slowly and not deeply at first. Always stay in the fresh air. Gradually you will adapt again. Although your heart will not retain. Earth time rhythm anymore. The tablets I have given you will maintain an even rhythm for your heart if you take one each year.

Your heart is not strong and the effect of the time change will always be felt. I will say. And obviously, I don't believe this, but there's a lot of talk in this story and online about the fact that

eventually when she dies in 1994, because scientists were saying that if she went to that world, it'd be irradiated as hell, right? She does die of cancer in 1994. So it's like, everyone's like, that's what got her, dude. I don't know if that's true. I don't particularly buy that, but I figured I would say that little bit of the story. What kind of cancer did she die?

I do not know. I can't remember. Yeah. It's fine. And then they embrace and they have one last face-to-face conversation. I bet it's going to be like super romantic and affecting. Remember always that my love will. be with you forever.

Our telepathic link remains on the alpha rhythm between our brains. And this physical parting is only temporary. Our son, ailing, will come to fetch you home again. Now, you must go back to care for your Earth family. I shall live only for you, and my love for you will give me strength. Like, now go actually to your real family, bye. And she's like, I love you, F them. So he undocks her MG from the ship's cargo hold and she jumps back in it.

And he takes off to space again. He just zips away. She's like driving a retro car now basically. Yep. Well, again, it's only been four months according to her. She returns to her home back to her family and 21 years passes before she writes this book. She says that, you know, he would visit her through visions telepathically. she'd see her son growing up through visions,

but they never again reached, like talk to her. She didn't touch them or anything. I was to say it's also interesting. Another thing with ACON saying what he said, the alpha rhythm between your brains. That's kind of the meditative state. When you get into that point,

it's like with a where you're aware, but not actively thinking that kind of like Zen state. It's also where the binaural beats go between 8 and 12 hertz, which is the same thing. But it is a meditative state. And it was discovered. and by a science, like that was actively discovered in early 1900. That was trippy doing the binaural beats like still.

Like that was that was one of the most like. I still use them. Like hard to replicate mind states that I've ever discovered. It's very strange. It doesn't feel like being on any drug. It's like it's a weird thing. It's a Zen. It's a very Zen state.

It brings me to. But no, but again, it's interesting. He says the alpha rhythm between our brains because that's like, that's that meditative state of brain waves, man. That's just like where that. That is.

It's honestly, it's, if it's not real, it's incredibly fun sci-fi in that they take from real life. Well, research. Yeah, yeah. Well, not like the best written book ever, but well-researched. No. And I love that. I love that about it.

And I think it's super fun. So she takes this next 21 years until she releases the book to basically try to spread the word of Akon's wisdom and her love for him and their space child. And she would continue to do this until her dying day. if you watch the documentary I talked about, her nurse is like, yeah, she would tell me all the time about her space boyfriend and her kid. She would just be like, you want to hear? Come here. Come here. I'll tell you about it. However, this is where we start to get into the reality of things. Despite her sister and first husband attesting to the witnessing of a UFO, much of the rest of her story is completely unsubstantiated. The revisitations, the time she go off with him, even the pregnancy, there's no real record.

And again, she was pregnant with this kid while on Earth. apparently. Yeah. In fact, Elizabeth's son David, who is a real person and not a space child, has no recollection of the events, the absence, or the pregnancy. And he was like, look, I was alive in 1959 when she supposedly did this. And I don't remember that happening at all. When it comes to the world euphology, most people don't believe her story.

There are many who are like, it deserves further explanation. But most people are like, seem just kind of like a tale she told. They just wanted to have a win. And I think the biggest issue, unfortunately, comes from her post-1959 when she's on her kind of like, I'm trying to tell people about this and do this. Because she has a photo that she insists is his UFO. Except as far as I can tell and I'll give it to you, it just looks like someone threw a hubcap, dude. Like, there you go. Oh, yeah, I know this photo.

I mean, that literally is what it looks like. Yeah. It just looks like someone threw a hubcap and took a photo. Like the fact that it's like sideways is like so whack. Like that has got motion. blur on it. It looks like somebody literally just threw it like straight up, like not even like Captain America style, but like no, yeah, putting a quarter in the slot style. And then, um, when it comes to like all the other things, right, because remember she was given a pearl necklace

and an ear and a ring to, they're bon. And so she has all that stuff and there's a photo of it. And again, this ring straight up just looks like a thing you would buy like a gift shop at like Salem, Massachusetts. Okay. Looks like a green lantern. Yeah, this looks like literally, I was going to say like some kind of like pirate like Halloween type like that comes with like a gun that has a red thing in the tip kind of situation. Yeah, you would think you would think a ring where the diamond or whatever the jewel is made of light would be like really cool looking and it just looks like prop like a prop. Yeah. So if you're wondering, because I was and I had to look to look this.

information up and I'm so glad I did. Her first two husbands were dead before 1959. So when she went off to go have her space baby, it was just like her and her kids at home and then family members, which I think is even crazier. Her sister was still there. I assume raising the kids according to her. I don't know, man, but it's crazy that she just like dipped out on her kids. Maybe honestly, this is one of those like two husbands dead. She like had to get away. I don't know. I don't know what's going on here. But she married her third husband. and last husband in 1963. And when asked about her space lover, because I was like, I have to know, he said, that's all right with me as long as he stays in space where he belongs.

That's awesome. Bravo, good sir. That's such a funny fucking rave. Bravo. Fucking phenomenal response. Yeah. So I think the best way to sum this whole thing up is what euphologist Cynthia Hind noted, which was that Elizabeth absolutely 100% believes what happened. whether it's real or not, she thinks she's telling the truth.

And even though Hein suspects that it might just be an active imagination or illusions in like a dream state or whatever, it's still an incredibly fascinating story and one that deserves to be looked at. And I feel like that's exactly what it is. Agreed. I mean, it could very well be that situation where they very, like she said, there were other witnesses. They did see a UFO thing.

And she just became obsessed in a way that like led to this fantastical scene scenario in her head. As we mentioned, she was well read. She was educated before any of this anyway. So, you know, grasping for something to tell a story that maybe people will believe so the people will finally believe you. It's kind of just like a band. You can definitely see some like inner trauma work through it of like talking about how like, like,

like sex with human men is like terrible and they don't care. And like you're all too conservative with that shit. It's like maybe she's working through what she just believes like she's not getting what She's not getting what she wants at home, clearly, is what the issue is. But it's interesting because there is maybe a nugget of something that happened that set her down this path. Very similar to Whitley Streeper that we talked about last week where I think something happened. And then he created a world afterward, whether it is because the books sold well or whatever. I think it is important to remember the art element of it.

Like, it's weird to think about like I was just going to say it's like a band, right? It's like you, the bands all make up like the scene, right? And all the bands have like some kind of like true something at the core. Like all the ones you know, like if you think about like all the bands we talked about in LA month about like the ones like the doors and all those bands that were in the sunset strip at that one time. Right. And they all kind of come together and make the scene together. But though they all share some sort of small thing together, they all kind of like also had to do a business. and all had to, like, compete with each other, kind of and kind of, like, to become part of the zeit guys. So it ends up kind of being, like, a creative sort of thing.

You kind of get, like, their style of writing comes into play. Like, Bill Tompkins, right? If he was, like a good writer, right? If he was a misogynistic piece of garbage. Well, even if he was a misogynistic piece of garbage, I mean, how many fucking authors do you know who are misogynistic pieces of garbage? I'm just saying if he was a good writer, right? Like, things would be different. He was his story would hit different and would occupy a different.

spot in the story. It's weird, but it's true. And like comparatively, she writes incredibly well. But if you read the book, again, a lot of repetitive language. It's still very amateur. A lot and horny of stuff that is just like, I was saying there with Akon and he just said. And then it's paragraphs of him saying like techno babble. Yeah, but what's what's crazy again?

And this is the part where you're like, what the fuck? Her typical writing in the book is again, repetitive. A lot of the same words, not very, but then when a con speaks, it's like a quantum theory that exists today. It is like a description of a quantum theory in a way that like we can kind of comprehend. And it's just it doesn't, it almost doesn't fit everywhere else in the book where she talks. But it also, it also follows like we've done this before where some people, proto humans from our solar system, went off, established a, you Utopian perfect society brought a few of us there and we were like, oh, we screwed up, bro. And it happens so frequently that it feels like ignoring the space thing, ignoring all of it,

that there is this unified, like grand UFO theory of. And I think this goes back to, you know, you could say this is part of religion. It's part of anything where we look to a higher power and we're like, guide us, please. And they're like, no, I'll figure it out yourself every time. They're just like, please, please God or please alien or please spaghetti monster, whatever, guide us. And they're like, no, you must solve this yourself, bro. Every time. That's very biblily.

It is very biblily. But on the other side of play, just for the sake of conversation as we wrap up, devil's advocating it. There is, I would say, wait to the argument that you have to live through something truly understand it. Like we were talking about, yeah. like to have us tell for aliens to come down and tell us it's all about love, just love each other. Would that really sink in as opposed to this?

Yeah, exactly. Like just on a personal anecdotal level therapy is really good for that of like having a recognition moment in processing something in a way that's just core that you really can't put words to that gives you a new perspective. Can

aliens even force humanity to love you? If that's the answer. Also more importantly, I don't know. that the majority of humans understand what love is. I agree with you. And I think that's the issue is like they're saying we can't. But maybe that's the like part of me wonders if that's the reason because you can't. We have to like you have to experience it to understand it before.

And even while experiencing it may not actually be love. It change. Yeah. Your understanding of it changes when you're actively in it and you're learning about it and you're exploring it and you realize what's not and what is. and aliens can land and tell all of us on the grand stage. It's all about love. And we now know aliens are real.

But is it going to actually make an effect on the people who, like you said, may not even know what love is? Yes, the definition of it. Because everyone has a different, like, you mean, even even in love, there's familial love. And there's the bond between friends. There's a bond between like a relationship you're having. And even in the relationship, there's different versions of love. Like it is. Yeah, your relationship evolves like a living thing.

In the years you're with them. So you know how like Superman, you know how like Superman like inspires even though he's like obviously impossible to exist? Like there's no real like meaningfulness to what he does or anything because it has no like correlation to what's going on in real life. But we follow it because we we can like be inspired by Superman because something about what he does and why he does it resonates. I feel like the idea of the alien as like this outsider perspective that's like beyond. us in technology. I feel like the fact or, you know, just like super cultured and like super like over all our problems like like wise past us.

There's something. Star Trek kind of like understanding of humanity. There's something sort of like about these personal stories and the fact that it's often wrapped up in like coochy stuff that it's like that it's like kind of aspirational or something like it is it is aligned with the desires of the author and some sort of very intimate way. I feel like there's something about that. I feel like there's something about the authors writing these stories almost as like a like a fable. I mean, there's no difference than one of them. Most religious texts are essentially, if you cut it down to bare bone stuff,

most of them are like persons sent from above comes to earth and tries to teach us to be better. That's it. Like if you just simplify it, doesn't really matter which religion. Most of them are like that. And that's like hell, even the Bible. like Jesus is that person. He's very much like that. He's like the epitome of like, which is why I love the Gnostic Bible version of him where he's like a guru, like as opposed to like the chosen one essentially.

But it's the same same lesson. It's always the same lesson trying to lead by example. Like cared. The answer is so fucking clichely, stupidly simple that it still doesn't sink in. Care about each other. Love each other. And everything will work out.

Which for anyone who is like actually read the Bible, most of what that dude's doing is like, oh, you guys don't want to touch that woman. Hey, woman, come over here. I'll touch you. Like, it's a vibe. And I think that's super interesting that that that's kind of what this, this guy's saying, even though he's a different way of saying it, but he's like, a con's like, men and women are like just different. You know, we're all light, man.

And like, there's a balance to it and you got to treat each other right. Like same overarching theme, but it's like across the board. It's just interesting. I think that is if, you know, If we take away all of like, if we say religion isn't real and aliens aren't real and like, whatever, we're just it. Then even then the concept of like the repeated storytelling is over and over and over again. It's like, this isn't new.

We just choose to ignore it. Yeah. There's something about our inherent nature that seeks unity and love and community in a way that we're not getting it and haven't been getting it and God knows how long. I don't know. We're inventing like messengers from space. We're basically inventing religion again. Yeah.

Yeah. You can absolutely see it that way. I agree. And that's weird as fuck. And superheroes, like aliens, these, these types of aliens. Superman is basically like, uh, he's an alien. He literally is an alien. He literally is an alien.

But like, like I said earlier, all our stories and comic books and that include violence are always violence in the pursuit of peace and harmony with everybody else. It's always the end goal is always no violence. So we just know nothing else really as a species. I mean, I'm here for no censorship also though, which I feel like is not a big one for this guy. But I, you know,

I this dude was like, no, no, comics are bad. I'm like, comics are bad. I'm like, okay, so this guy's like down with like what the kids are into on earth right now.

And he's making topical judgments. Like her filter is filtering this. Yes, like why would they know about comics from Earth? Like, why would they anywhere? We'll hide the looboos from the children. Like the men aren't like kinky enough for her, but comics and violence, that's a line too far.

Batman and Robin too kinky. Which is very American values in a weird way. It's funny how the comic book readers ended up being like the most like, like stereotypically like conservative people on the planet. I don't know. It's just a weird. I love the patterns you can see in her story compared to others. The weird stuff that does boil down to like an understanding of quantum science in a strange way. and then the love story on top of it,

which is so thick. There's something fascinating. It's fascinating. Yeah, it's interesting. Great story. That's it for us, everybody. We're off to go do a minisode at patreon.com slash cheluminati pod as we always do.

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