Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 342: Listener Stories

Episode Date: March 22, 2026

The boys read some listeners stories this week! Do you have any stories you want to (not very confidentially unfortunately) tell the Chilluminati? Check out our subreddit! https://www.reddit.com/r/ChilluminatiPod/CHILLUMINATI is a weekly comedy podcast hosted by Mike Martin, Jesse Cox and Alex Faciane. Hold on to your tin-foil hats and traverse the realms of the mysterious, supernatural, spooky and sometimes truly horrible - and your third eye will never be the same!Subscribe to our Patreon to support us and for extra content like full video episodes, weekly Minisodes, exclusive art, and more at http://patreon.com/CHILLUMINATIPODMERCH: https://theyetee.com/chilluminatiMike Martin - http://www.youtube.com/@themoleculemindset Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - https://www.youtube.com/@StarWarsOldCanonBookClub/Editor: DeanCutty Producer: Hilde @ https://bsky.app/profile/heksen.bsky.social Show Art: Studio Melectro @ http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro Logo Design: Shawn JPB @ https://twitter.com/JetpackBragginStories:1: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChilluminatiPod/comments/1reupni/listener_story_theres_a_few_here/2: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChilluminatiPod/comments/1r5yvkn/the_time_i_almost_got_shot_re_minisode_263/3: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChilluminatiPod/comments/1rn00d6/the_spirit_parade_dream/4: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChilluminatiPod/comments/1pkg9en/viewer_story_my_arguments_for_the_existence_of/5: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChilluminatiPod/comments/1r7xkr5/the_most_vivid_dream_of_my_life_i_shouldnt_be_here/6: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChilluminatiPod/comments/1rpnsmq/on_jesses_observation_in_episode_340/

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Okay, but what if I don't have an accident? Well, just keep on, keeping on. Bell Air Direct, insurance, simplified. Conditions apply. Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Chulamini podcast, episode 3142. As always in one of your host, Mike Martin, joined by the Chris and Leon of L.A. Oh, man. What a conundrum.

Which one of us is Chris and which one of us is Leon? And who's even... Let's be clear. Let's be clear. I'm Chris. You could be Leon. But I'll take it. And we just finished Resident Evil 9. I feel, I feel amazing taking on the mantle of Leon.

Yeah, you could be Leon. It's the most badass dude. Punch a few boulders. Like his dirty ass coach's shirt. His dirty ass college football coach's shirt that he's wearing to... Did you love that line? For anyone who's playing nine minor spoilers here. So just like, you know, close years for a second.

I loved when he went back to the RPD and he walked and he's like, Lieutenant Crab, Marv or whatever his last name is. Yeah. Leon reporting for duty. Yeah. And he's like, all right.

Little Leon. He just wanted to be a good boy cop. And he just had the best, the worst first day ever. Don't you love walking back to places that you've been in your life and then saying the things that you said then to yourself? It was cool, though,

but like for, no, it's like, it's game or stuff. Yeah. I played, I played like the first like two hours of Resident Evil 9 with Jess. And Jess had never seen any other Resident Evil.

So we paused. And I'm like, let's rip through. RE2 as Leon real quick. We did that in like seven hours. And then you come back and you pick up as Leon and go to R. And it's like, oh, it's like a flashback. It was like an active flashback.

If anybody's worried about Mathis, spoiling any portion of Resident Evil Requiem, let me tell you that is just the tip of the fan service iceberg. So just to relax. Yeah, it's a great game. And you know where you're not going to find a copy of Resident Evil 9 Requiem available for free download. That is at patreon.com slash TulelemaityPy

because it's not there. Patreon.com slash two money pod. We do not offer bootleg games there. That's not something we do. Patreon.com slash two 90 pot. What we do there instead is what? What, Mathis, what's one thing we do on Patreon. dot com slash two money pot? You get all our main episodes,

100% ad free. Right, exactly. And Jesse, what's another thing that we do on Patreon.com slash two money pod? Well, you get to watch rotten popcorn, a show where we watch truly terrible movies. Yes, exactly. And not only that, we do a minisode. I'm favorite of one of these motherfuckers.

It's a video version of all of the episodes we do. I'm looking at these guys right now. If you get the video version, you can see my cool new Dodgers hat. No, I'm not worth it. Save your money. No. Patreon.com slash Chulminati pod. Patreon.

Save your money. Got another comment. We don't look like our voices from somebody the other day. Well, I disagree. Because I've been seeing at myself the whole time. I believe that. I want to know what you think I look like. Can you draw me?

as a person has been a face online for 25 years. Could you draw me how you think I look like? Because frankly, I would be honored. It's Zat Brannigan. I would draw a picture of Zapp Brandigan with red hair. That's what I would draw. Mathis, you sound like... I don't want to know.

You sound pretty main character. I would say... I don't think I have a main... You have a solid radio voice. I have like a high-pitched witch laugh and like the the voice of an old like a wizard who's been stuck in a castle for 500 years. You sound like the main character of a RPG. I thought I was like nasly sounding. You kind of just have like a, well, you're a little bit and you're definitely like the RPG is definitely set in like New England.

But other than that, like this quest is going to be wicked hard, dude. Yeah. Alex, I draw you almost, I feel like as I, as you are almost, I feel like you fit your voice. I'm just a caricature of a person in real life. So it's hard to think about somebody else when you think about me. Maybe, maybe I met you, I met you in your life when you've already knew who you were. You know what I mean? I don't look how I, how I look. Like to me, like the guy, like I don't, I don't even look how I think I look. Is that weird? I don't, I dress myself and I don't look how I think I look. I don't know. It's weird. It's weird being a. person perception right yeah it's a weird thing lots of different points of view and speaking of points of view how about this on reddit there is a subreddit and it's a cheluminati subreddit and on that subreddit we sometimes invite you to share your points of view with us because sometimes on here

we do listener stories episodes and it's been i think last one we did was before christmas when we did the um it was a chileuminati christmas excuse me it's a uh advent calendar for chilmanati uh not not uh it's a you know it's a secular holiday it's a company holiday. And this time, I'm here to bring the chill back into Lumini Christmas, okay? Okay. Yeah. Well, that's kind of the vibe. On Chulamati Christmas must end. Yeah. That's kind of the vibe with Chulminati Christmas is like, we want no wars. We're just like, chill, you know, we're like super chill. So like, I feel like that's, that's really good. Anyway, we invite you to share your stories of things that have happened

to you in this world, things that you have heard about in your local town, things that you've experienced that you can't explain the scariest moments of your life and sometimes a dream or two. So all of those things are going to be represented in today's listener stories. I've got a nice little selection for you. I don't believe I've done the mortal, but understandable sin of pulling one that I've already used somewhere else because I am, as you can maybe tell by my personality, disorganized. But I don't think I did. and I spent a little bit more time stressing about it than I probably should have.

So let's start. Listen, man, we're 340-odd episodes in. It's hard sometimes when you're looking for stories like, wait a minute. Have we done this one? I can't go listen to 20 different stories. There's story episodes to make sure. So do you think we should have like some sort of document that just lists everything we've done? There's actually, let me tell you, there's actually probably like six of those.

But like in the episodes, so also the things we talk. Like, I just feel like we should. We have them. And then it's available to all three of us? Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I mean, that would work. The Bell Air Direct app includes crash assist, which detects an accident the moment it happens,

and even offers you emergency assistance at the tap of a button. Okay, but what if I don't have an accident? Well, just keep on, keeping on. Bell Air Direct, insurance, simplified. Conditions apply. The first one is called, I'm sorry, I'll get out of your way. That's by Minute Rooster. It's for Mathistory.

All right, here we go. Traditionally, for New Year's Eve, my family goes over to my dad's friend's house for a big party. This story takes place in our prep time before going to one such party when I was 10 or 11. On the night I was sitting on the staircase playing my newish Nintendo DSI. Hell yeah. The DSI. Very specific. Extremely specific, playing Pokemon White that I had just gotten for Christmas or Christmas the year before.

All of a sudden, I felt as though I was being watched, which would have been hard to do as my sister and parents. were all downstairs and I was facing the bottom of the stairs. Thinking it might have been a cat, I just looked up to the clock with a mirror wall ornament that rests on the wall of the staircase. In the reflection of the mirror at the top of the stairs were two bare feet and frills like that of doilies trimming. Seeing an unknown figure, I quickly turned around to see nothing at the top of the stairs turning back to the mirror and she was still there.

At this point, I politely said, oh, I'm sorry, I'm in your way, I'll move. and got up and walked down into the living room and sat on the couch and continued playing for the rest of the night. The rest of the night was uneventful. I didn't tell anyone at the time about what I saw. That's like Finn when he sees that like crazy thing in that house, that haunted ghost. He's like, all right, and I'm just going to file that away and it's gone. Goodbye. Yeah, that sounds exactly like that.

For some context and the reason why I preface that both houses were remodeled multiple times, there are odd things about a ghost to be waiting specifically where I saw her. When my parents moved in, the main part of the house they remodeled was how the staircases between the basement, first floor, and second floor were. When they purchased the house, the stairs used to connect kitchen to second floor den, back hall to basement. And they changed the orientation to kitchen to basement and second floor den to back hall. Well, how did they change the orientation?

I don't know. I do not understand how that works. I was trying to figure out in my head. I'm picturing that game. I'm picturing that game labyrinth where you, like slide the tiles in. Did I just date myself? I don't know.

Maybe I just dated myself. We're all the same age. Are you talking about? I have never played the labyrinth game. I know the labyrinth movie. Have I dated my co-hosts by association? Oh shit. We're all older.

We're all labyrinth bros. The stairs are in the same vertical space. They just changed the orientation of them. Okay. It's almost like the story tried to answer a question and didn't really answer anything. So if that explanation was a bit confusing, it's just to say that if a ghost was waiting there, it would go against the idea that ghosts are impressions from the past because she was waiting to go down the stairs in the current orientation, something that happened within 12 years of when this interaction took place. I know what they're saying. They reversed the stairs.

Yeah, like if the ghost is an impression on history, then the ghost should appear where the stairs once were, not where the stairs are. Exactly. Gotcha. I'm with you. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Could I have just thought it was my sister and she was playing a prank on me?

Well, one, she was downstairs and two, she doesn't have an 1800 Victorian murdered girl dress. So I have my doubts that it was my sister. Why didn't I say anything to anyone? I don't know. I was too invested in Pokemon and it didn't feel threatening. I guess that's kind of an 11 year old, 10 year old. I kind of like that. It also, we've talked about this in ghost episodes before.

That's the end of the story by the for listeners. But we talked about this for ghost episodes before. We're like, there seems to be, if we were to take ghost episodes. as ghosts and not a layer of a greater phenomenon that might be, you know, encapsulate everything. There are the ideas of like intelligent hauntings, which are ones that are aware that they are dead and kind of stuck and can move. But then there are, like, impressions that are that historical thing where they repeat the same action on the same time every night, whether they be walking through, which is why you see ghosts walk through walls or walk through closed doors, not really paying attention

or even like acknowledging you're there because those are like the impressions of what they once did. And then there's the ones that are supposed to be intelligent, which you seem to be implying. Ghostbusters style. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The ones that are physically present in the space and that you can easily suck into like vacuum type technology. Why are we never talking about, we always talk about how there are ghosts that can, like, oh, it's interactable with you, but then there are like the reflections of the thing. And we call the ones that interact with you intelligent. Why don't we call the ones that don't interact with you intelligent? It seems to be. like they don't care you exist.

Could you not simply say that those ghosts can't be bothered with the living? It's interesting because like you could make that point. Unconcerned ghosts. The idea behind it to push my glasses up and say, I'm actually. The idea behind it is that like it's not even like they're consciously there. It's more like a record playing, an imprint of history that just plays on its own, whether you're there or not, no matter what wall is there versus an entity exactly,

which is like cognizantly and consciously aware. Does that, is that true? I'm trying to find a fun devil's advocate thing to jump in here and be like, some people do the same thing every day of their life while living. It's true. So could into go simply be like, I'm doing what I like. I don't care about you. Have you guys ever read the invention of Morrell or moral?

I can't remember. It's a translated story. I forget, forgive me for the pronunciation. I believe the original author is like Argentinian or something. Boi Casares, I think, something like that. it's about this guy it's almost like lost or something where this guy like shows up on an island and he i think he like washes ashore there and he's surprised to see that on the island is like some like socialites living sort of like a normal sort of vacationy type lifestyle in a big

manner together and there's like this one girl there that he sees that he like really like is moved by and slowly he realizes that what he's watching is some sort of like looping recording of something that happened a long time ago but then he figures out a way to like insert himself into the story and have moments alone with this girl and sort of like have his own story told alongside the other story and it's like if he repeats it over and over again and eventually maybe he becomes part of the recording. Like, what is the difference? It's a kind of interesting story.

I don't know. Only slightly related, but you brought it up. So if you were interested in a little mind adventure, it's a very short little book, Invention of Moral, probably a one or two. It's like a bathroom reader.

It's a good one. Okay. This sounds like a good story. I see where you're where that comes from, obviously with the idea of like that reprint over and over again. The other thing about the devil's advocate, at the side of it is just like, well, if they are in prints of history, again, there's always an argument of like, Earth is not sitting still and in the vacuum of space.

It is moving at all times. Why, if they are repeats of history, how come they're moving with the Earth and not moving with. Right. We'd be orbiting the suns or whatever. Yeah, yeah. But there could be, there could be something to that, too, though. Like, if you buy into like some kind of like new sphere recording type concept that it's like

central to the planet rather than to like maybe it is a recording of a spaceship that's playing it on the hollow deck and it maybe is playing in the same space. The Vibrancy of Earth is what's allowing the recording to play. Yeah, yeah. There's a million ways you can write yourself out of it. You can like just keep day carding it all the way to the top. You really can. Yeah, absolutely correct.

But yeah, that's a great little first starter. I like it. Yeah. This next one is called The Time I Almost Got Shot by Female Odd. And it goes like this. this isn't really paranormal or anything, but Alex mentioned almost getting shot once in the minisode and it reminded me of the time that I almost got shot.

So I figured I'd share the story because why not? If the guys want to share it on the pod, feel free. And I do. And so I did. It was 2011 and I had just moved into an apartment with my boyfriend at the time and two other roommates. The living room was generally the group hangout area, but it was also the bedroom of one of the roommates,

seeing as how it was a two-bedroom apartment. and we were all in our 20s and didn't want to share rooms. This is just to provide context as to why there was only one outlet available for me to plug my laptop into in the living room area. Anyway, so I was laying on the floor, half in the living room and half in the hallway, doing something on my laptop with it plugged into the sole free outlet in the living room. My boyfriend was playing video games, and at some point, he had gotten his gun out to either clean it or something.

I didn't pay much attention to it because it made me uncomfortable, and it was laying on the floor. Someone who is around guns so much now, I am the same way. Anytime one's around, I'm like, I. Oh, shit. I don't want to, yeah, exactly. I'm like, I don't want to be in the room. Yeah. Suddenly, my ear is ringing, deaf in right ear since birth, and I'm confused like I've just

been flashbanged. Myself, the boyfriend and the roommate who was home, all are just, what the fuck happened? The gun that was laying on the living room floor had misfired. It definitely fired from being on the floor. There was a burn in the carpet. And there was an entry hole in the wall. wall not more than a foot away from where my head was. The bullet passed through the wall and into the freezer.

The sole paranormal aspect of this story, other than the gun apparently firing on its own, was that the bullet made it into the freezer proper, as in there was a bullet hole going into the freezer, but we never found the bullet. Anyway, my boyfriend clutched me like he almost lost something precious and sold the gun to try to make up for almost negligently killing me. Honestly, good on him for selling the gun as a reaction. This didn't stop him from cheating on me and gaslighting me the entire relationship. Oh, my God.

But I digress. I take all of that back. Fuck your boyfriend. The three of us who were present told the roommate who was at work at the time, the story to explain the bullet holes, but then swore to never speak of it again. Except I'm telling the story now because it's been 14 years. And if Justin has a problem with it, he can eat my ass and not in the good way.

Thanks for reading. Wow, fucking great story. I love the way that ended. That's scariest shit. Guns scared the shit out of me. Fuck that. I hate them. One time somebody was chill.

My grandpa and grandma had a house in Carson for a while where Carson is like one of those like 70s same look neighborhoods. But then it was kind of fashionable to like get some tin and like add on a little more extension to the house afterwards. And so that part of the house was a little bit. less structurally sound. Yeah, just a little bit less solid than the rest of the house. And there's a recliner where my grandpa literally always sat anytime that he was sitting and watching television. And one day we were like, what is that?

What is that? Looking at the roof and looking at the ceiling inside the house. And we were like, what hell is that? And there was a fucking bullet hole right above my grandfather's chair. And we started digging through the chair and in the cushions, we found a fucking bullet. And it was like somebody shot a gun into the fucking air and it landed right where his fucking head would like he just don't care, man. Isn't that crazy?

Like that is nuts. Yeah. Like that secretly think you're a pussy if you want gun owner, but guns are fucking scary. They are. They're literally a tool for death. And at least half of you, I believe will agree with me that they'd, deserve to be respected and to be feared. Responsible gun owners,

which there are many who exist out there. I know you're out there. A guy who is cleaning his gun, who didn't clear the chamber first before putting the gun just like on a table and not taking out like the fucking mag. That's insane. It could have started a fire even.

Yeah. Crazy. Anyway. Crazy scary story. Where's the bullet? Paranormal. Chiluminaity. Justified.

Yeah. All right. next one's for jesse okay uh the spirit parade by squiggle wiggle squiggle wiggle i'm losing my voice so my apologies to you um greetings again fellow to luminots and dynamic duo from downtown co-hosted by our favorite maniacal mind michael mathis martin what a fucking what a what a what a first sentence was a thing okay hello gently i'm in a word mood today and I just so happened to experience something that reminded me about a dream I had a while ago. So today I present to you that dream with modern, modern markups and passed me

postulations, postulations in parentheses. Provided for podcasting purposes as well, dream interpreting encouraged. This is like the guy that in real life, like ends up being the Wizard of Oz in the dream version. You know what I'm saying? These names like Professor Marvel or something like that. Yeah. Additionally, I would like to say on a scale of Jesse to Mathis, I'm mostly an Alex with a quarter, Jesse.

I'm really into mythology so I can put on a humerus lens. Humerus. Um, um, um, one's, and there's a very small part of me that occasionally, it deeply wants to believe in other life forms visiting.

our planets and stopping by for peak at the chaos zoo. That term, that word, by the way, it means for people who don't know what I, like I didn't, it's the theory that myths and gods originated from exaggerated tales of real historical people and events. That's what you can make. It's like the eternals. Exactly the same thing. Yeah.

Correct. What? It is. They literally are real creatures that inspire all the stories of the gods. Sure. I was assuming like a guy named Hercules killed a lion once and they made a whole legend out of him is what I'm assuming they mean. Yeah, yeah. Or like a celestial android left behind to guard the egg of a budding celestial, which is, which begins to emerge from the ocean.

No, no, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like to imagine all of world history is a bad movie. Yes. Adamantium comes from. Me too. Yeah, no, I get it. Harrison Ford is the Hulk. Without further ado, enjoy the ride.

29 to 24. Third person. A few nights ago, I had a dream about watching a parade of spirits go through town. It happens every so often at night, and somebody tells me that I must respect the spirits by never talking or standing in their path. Basically, don't interrupt the black parade is what I'm adding. That's my little addition. Basically, don't interrupt the procedure in any way.

I sat by the side of the road and watched as they appeared out of some fog, saunter through town, then disappear into a dense cloud. The first set to appear seemed to be human size roughly, but the spirits didn't look human and felt like they were out of a Japanese folklore film. They were all bipedal, pure black bodies, with stick-like legs and arms. each one wore a unique bright ivory oval mask and varying white accessories such as antlers or something comparable to a necklace some had half a rib cage etc i just i little just a little add this whatever anime you watched before this i wish i had because that sounds baller anyway the second gave me that line just gave me the biggest deja vu i'm telling you i've seen that before you said that you just like you saying that i'm like i've done this

before. Wait a minute. The anime line? Yeah, the anime line made this, like, I'm looking at the script and Jesse saying in his tone, I was immediate, like, I have been here. You're having a listener story experience in real time. I think sometimes when we listen to, to listener, like, dream stories. Yeah. A lot of time I want to like hyperinterpret it, but I think over the years that we've done this, I'm like, what are you into this week? What were you doing? Yeah. That influenced this dream, the way it did. The second set were twice the size of the, with the notable difference being the masks. Instead of an oval, they all were darkly outlined contorted faces, typically bearing a smile,

grin, or distress. They had hands now, still peg-legged. The third and final set were four times the size of the previous group, with no masks or any wet accessories and massive hands and feet, each being easily the size of two bathtubs. They ambled with the speed and grace of a giant. I especially made sure not to make any noise as they passed. It was magnificent and terrifying. Flash forward to this morning, and I have this dream again,

the spirit parade going to come through town again as it does at the end of every moon, or every, every moon cycle. This time, I brought D along. For context of story, dear readers, D is my partner. Lady Dee? Well, there's a problem. That is the problem. Yeah, there's a rush.

At first, they were hesitant because I told them the rules about having to stay quiet and not join the parade. But once it started, they got a little excited, too excited. Fog rolls in. The first group appeared and Dee starts talking about the features of spirits as the first group went by. With a swift turn, every mask in the parade stared the moment Dee's mouth was open. D got Boulder. I don't know how you would get bolder. on the second group. D got bolder as the second group passed, running and dancing between them as they

passed saying, it's no big deal and they can't touch us. Some of them tried to grab D, but just weren't fast enough. Watching this, I was frozen mortified. D returned to my side as the last of them passed by and into the fog. The final group made their slow approach, and D was amazed by the sheer size of them. They went to go out and touch one of their feet. The moment they did, the giant swept D up into its hands. They were terrified screaming, help me, help me! Of which I could do nothing but watching tears with tears of my eyes until they all left. Once it was over, I quickly returned to our house to see what I can do to bring back D before they are trapped forever. The entire house is completely different now.

All of our belongings that were tied to D are gone, and nearly every room had no furniture decorations. At some random point, some spirit gave me a small circle with a bead woven in it. The thread was woven into a star-like pattern, and the bead acted like a compass to point where there was a spirit present or nearby. Also, isn't that one of those like spirit catchers? So technically, you can catcher,

You can catch D. Just saying, Catch the D. Yeah. With a spirit compass. I walk around our near empty house, holding the device waiting for it to tell me what I'm looking for. I eventually arrive in a room where every wall has large curtain blinds on it,

extending the length of the walls. When I point at the one farthest from the doorway, the bead starts shaking intensely. As I move closer, it gets even crazier. It felt like it was going to. fly off of the string, bounce around like flubber. It's like the witcher's medallion.

Good old flummer. Kind of, yeah. Yeah, the Witcher medallion vibration. I stand a distance away from the curtain because I can start to see an outline of something standing behind it. I shout at whatever it is to show itself. Very quickly.

Flashes him. A young dwarven lady in a wedding dress jumps out with tears in her eyes begging for me to help her. Yes, she had a full beard as any proud dwarf would, uh, should bestow.

gorgeous. I tell her that I will help in exchange for helping me get D-back. She agrees, and then the rest of the dream is somewhat of a blur. I run around our house doing weird random tasks. After what feels like eight hours of this, she shows me a pathway that leads me to travel to the spirit realm. I wonder for only a minute before finding them walking among the parade, I grabbed their hand, and we promptly head back to our world.

Thank you for your time and minds. May you all have a lovely week. I know what I think. Please let us know. Yeah, I'm just going to lay it out quickly. I'm not going to explain myself. And I want to emphasize before I begin that I think that the presence of this thought process does not imply intent on the part of the dreamer before I proceed.

But I believe what we have here is, a perception of life as a linear process, like a linear series of phases. And I think that we flirted with the idea of whether or not we wanted to be with our partner for the rest of our lives. And then we discovered in doing so that we really did miss them and what. want to be with them in the context of this dream. That's what I think. Interesting.

So I had to go look just to verify because when I was making an anime joke, it does ring as something and it absolutely is true. There literally is a parade of ghosts in Japanese folklore that 100 Yo-Kai at night walk in a parade and if you mess with them in any sort of way, they just get your ass. Oh, that is straight up the story. It is the story. Yeah. So, so witnessing it without protection brings misfortune, acting as a warning of impending trouble, uh, or manifestation of communal fears is what the folklore version of this is. Huh. Interesting. I mean, that's almost like spot on to be honest. Like, yeah, I wonder if they either read about that before the dream or maybe they watched the

like you said, an anime that kind of does that. But it's not going to be an anime because that's like if it's a Japanese trope. Yeah. Literally, the parade of 100 demons is a thing. That's crazy. Maybe it's real. And you actually were there. You witnessed the parade of demons. Yeah. Like any of them is worth considering in the case of spirits. But I think what I think. Here's what I would say. if ghost you care so deeply about your partner and getting them back, it shows the connection you have because I'm going to let you know. There's not many people I would go to a ghost realm and save. Right.

I'd be like you, I told you not to do that shit and you did it. Bye. You weren't respect. That's like when you go out with someone, like if you go on a date for the first time, that person's rude to the waiter. No,

bye. Oh. Yeah. You know what I was like taking it, the dream is like maybe it's your subconscious being like she doesn't respect the same things you do and you need to just let her be taken and like let it go and just move on. I mean like yeah, if that's with the beginning of, but like the idea that you want to go go save for this person back shows how much you care about them despite any flaws,

which I think is also important. It's a thought experiment, right? It happened in your brain, right? It's not I want to and I'm going to. It's like, what if this happened? What would happen? Yeah, there's plenty of times that you can be in a relationship with someone. one they'll be like I woke up and had a dream that you were cheating on me it's like it doesn't

that's an internalized fear that's not like a thing that happened that's real it just exists and it's like well yeah why did you feel that way what was the dream about and then you talk about it like rational adults and you move the fuck on and you never ever hold it against your partner even for half a day because it's a dream it's a really scary dream and you were really disturbed by it and you have trouble looking at them for a little while it's okay to live in that reality and also not holding against them i understand if you think that people are throwing themselves at me I get it. That's how fucking crazy cool your brain is, though.

Like, it can generate scenarios in your mind that elicit such strong emotions. They linger for your waking conscious hours. And if that's the case, then what don't we understand about what? That's the cool stuff. And how far I'm seeing Constantine in real life anyway? Right. Exactly correct. Exactly correct.

I'm reading. I'm rereading a book I've read before by Jacques Valle. I'm really in that mindset right now. Yeah. I want to go to the next story. It's all you, baby. All right. My argument for the existence of souls by Turcos.

I love that name. Hello, everyone. I've been kicking around sharing these stories for a while and have finally got the motivation to write them all down. I've always been more of a Jesse, believing that there is a scientific explanation for almost everything, although I admit that I have no possible grounded explanation for the following other than some weird confirmation bias. Here's what I'll say about that statement right out the gate.

Science is all about trying to explain. and explain the unexplained. So that's what's fun about it. Just because you experience something that science can't currently explain, it doesn't mean that there is an explanation. Exactly correct. Please feel free to share on the pod if interested, although I know it's a little lengthy and quick trigger warning,

there is mention of death, one of them by suicide. Before I get into each of the specific examples, with the exception of the first one, there was a strong emotional connection with the person who passed. I am fully convinced that when you are close with someone, there is some sort of connection that forms, and when one of those sides dies, there's a rebound in that connection of some sort. I have no scientific explanation other than some weird quantum nonsense, but I am an engineer,

not a physicist. And I get that feeling. I fully believe that there's something, there's personal experiences in my life and my family's life where it's just like, knowing something happened to a family member before anyone's ever told you, something's happened, just being like, oh. It's happened to me more than once. Yeah. Yeah, it's very weird.

I think I've talked about on the show. Yeah. Yeah, it's very strange. Admittedly, this one is probably the weakest story, but it's something that my mom has confirmed happened. I was around the age of five and had been having trouble sleeping, so I decided to make it my parents' problem and climbed into their bed like so many young kids do. I'd been facing away from the window in the room, but felt something odd and rolled over to see a relatively kind-looking transparent blue man wearing what looked like a World War II flight suit.

They didn't move or reach for me other than a slight head tilt. From what I remember now, 23 years later, he looked like he could have been from my mom's side, but I never saw anyone matching in family picture albums. We lived in fairly new military cookie cutter housing, so it couldn't have been a haunted property. I woke up both of my parents saying there was a man in the window, but he looked nice, and when I looked back, he was gone. So I imagine the parents clarified that what happened as he woke up and you said that. That's interesting, though.

There's so many, like, notable military hauntings that happen, like that are, stories that carry. We've read a few on this show. There's, there's been a couple about like airplanes and stuff, sounds like crazy stuff like that. The blue is getting me, transparent blue, like, at Obi-1 hologram. That's exactly my mind is like a forest ghost. That one, that one image of Palpatine from episode one where the hologram like glitches for a second, he just all like boosted. Yep. That's what I'm going to imagine.

Second story is my father. My dad and I were. always close, but something changed in late high school and we started playing Magic the Gathering together a lot. That's a great hobby. Averaging close to 40 hours a week in standard between our practice at home and Friday night magic. Oh, Friday night magic. I miss my younger years of doing Friday night magic. I burned out on MTG, fair, so did I. But when I went to college, we both got into Warhammer. Damn, that's like from one expensive hobby to an even more expensive hobby. Some hobbies are. Yeah.

This is both gone to Warhammer, which is important. And Diablo three seasonal grinds, mostly unimportant, but we pulled multiple all-nighters near season ends. Yeah, that's fun. I had a job at a naval shipyard as an engineer lined up out of college. In my last week home, me and my dad played a massive 12,000 point match of Sigma and he destroyed me. I don't even know much about Warhammer. I know that's an enormous army size.

That's crazy. As a token of thanks for everything he had done for me and to commemorate the victory with some mini storytelling, I pulled the head unglued off of my Star Drake Mini and gave it to him as a trophy. That's fucking cool shit. That's fucking baller. That's awesome.

Just before I started my new job, my father ended up taking his own life due to some unresolved mental health issues from his time in the army. And sadly, like just like a too common a story. There's multiple people in my life to something like this as well. Yeah. Around 2.30 a.m., the model,

I had taken apart fell over despite being fairly large and packed well. I had a profound sense that something had gone wrong, along with possibly a thump in my chest, and I tried texting, but it didn't matter. We were told around 10 a.m. that he had been found presumed dead around two to three. Full disclosure for this paragraph, my mental health wasn't the best, and I was self-medicating with alcohol. About a year after, I constantly felt like there was something in my apartment with me. One of these nights, I decided to try something to get some rest on a night that I was

fairly tipsy, although I distinctly remember feeling the presence on nights I was sober. I sat up and said, dad, please leave me alone, we'll have enough time for hobbying eventually. And most of the presence felt like it left finally. I didn't have any issues for the year or so afterwards that I was at this apartment. That's fucking tragic. I'm sorry that happened. I am really sorry to hear that. But it is so relatable, the idea of forming a little.

a belief in your mind and then finally acting on it out of nowhere like much later it's very interesting yeah there's probably a part where you're debating yourself of like isn't even just in my head but there is something even even if like the feeling didn't go away or whatever there's something's therapeutic about just saying that shit out loud it's the reason why people go to tombstones yeah and just talk to a grave yeah yeah the bell air direct app includes crash assist which detects an accident the moment it happens and even offers you emergency assistance at the tap of a button. Okay, but what if I don't have an accident? Well, just keep on keeping on.

Bell Air Direct. Insurance, simplified. Conditions apply. The next story is my mother. Three years after my dad passed, my mom had a long string of health issues that eventually led to her death in an ambulance on the way to the hospital. She had been talking less in our family group chat than usual that day, but I'd consistently been in and out of urgent care, so it wasn't anything unusual. Something was different that day, though, and I started feeling off again, almost like a panic attack, followed by a crash where I could almost hear her say something.

I was not as close with my mom, which is why I think I felt less on top of being two time zones away. I am confident, however, I knew she was gone before I got the call from my sister. She also swears that she knew her mother passed before her sister called because she heard, quote, I'm okay now, baby girl, end quote. I've heard people say the same thing. Yeah, exactly. I've heard so many stories like that. I knew when my dad was going to tell me that my grandfather passed away somehow. I don't know how.

I didn't know that he was sick. I don't think. I was just watching Batman with Adam West at the time. And I just knew somehow when he came in, he was like, what's up, man? And I was like, Grandpa's dead. It was crazy. It was crazy. Yeah.

It's hard to explain like what that is, right? Maybe we're just like way better at like body language than we know. Yeah, you can pick up like internal things. Like all these stories so far, I know we got some more to go for this. But like one of the things that I keep picking up on, and maybe this goes back to the previous one as well, I don't know that I necessarily, I'm like, oh, this is proof of the soul. Sure. But I do believe that it may be one of those like proof of human connection or brainwave connection on a level beyond what we understand. because even I will admit there's moments where like something happens and I'll be like,

yo, I knew that was like I knew that was happening. But I also don't know if like I was saying there's subtle hints and things where you pick up on stuff and you mentally prepare for the worst. So when the worst happens, you're like, well, I knew that was going to happen. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. It's hard to know.

It's like Jason Bourne knowing how many dudes are in a room in like two seconds. Like somehow. Yes. Like, yes. You size it up real quick. It's weird. you understand. This is related to the connection thing.

This is a story about my dad, but my dad, I remember very vividly as a kid all the way into my teen years. He had a friend named Russ, and my dad knew, and it was a joke between my mom, I mean, my sister,

my brother, me, my dad knew when Russ was going to call, usually a day before Russ was going to call. And it was always, he'd get a feeling. He's like, I just have a feeling.

I just have a Russ feeling. Like, and there was no, didn't seem, be any pattern and it was dead on every single time. And it was the most bizarre thing that like thinking about now, I haven't thought about that in forever. It's just like there's that maybe there is just like a quantum like connection between brain waves of people who get our close friends. I don't know. It's weird. The next story is my wife's cat. Oddly, I also felt a fairly strong physical

thump when my wife's cat died at the age of 10. I'd always hated cats, but he was the first one I had ever lived with and he was as close to the perfect cat as anyone could have. I had to take care of him completely solo a few times while my wife was on field work and after a year I loved the little guy. He had a slew of health issues, namely FIV and diabetes and my wife noticed, of all things, a slight change in his purr that led us to take him to the vet where he crashed. I was trying to convince my wife that he was going to be okay, but I felt like I got kicked in the chest once and had a sinking feeling, but we still heard the vet rushing around behind the door. A bit later, I felt a second thump in the commotion died down.

We were told later that he fought hard and came back once. Now, like I said earlier, I don't have a real explanation for anything. And even typing it out, I still feel a little crazy. I know I ramble a little bit, but I can provide any additional information to the best of my ability. And if you've had anything similar happen when a loved one passes, I'd appreciate your stories as well. So I feel a little less crazy. You are super far from crazy. Like, we all just said, like we've all had that.

happen. It doesn't seem possible, but somehow you can kind of rock it from nothing. You know what I mean? Sorry to say such an evil word. Didn't used to mean that. Sorry. Yeah, it used to mean something different. But there is an absolute weird phenomenon that is almost universal across most people that like, again, it could be that we just as humans pick up on subtleties in a way that we don't truly understand. And that lets us know things. But it also could be on a higher level that like because you spend so much time with these people and you're so connected to them that like there's something else going on. Like I don't know. I don't know that it proves a soul thing.

But it does prove something. You're pretty good friends with some people. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely say something is happening. But I have no idea what. Yep. For sure.

This next one is called I shouldn't be here. And it's by fake happy. First time caller, long time listener. Another dream story. Feel free to read on Pod if you find this interesting. This dream may have only been on about two minutes long, but it made me go crazy for a couple weeks after. It just felt so real.

I had a dream that was so real. I still feel uncomfortable by it. It happened just as I was waking up in the morning. I started to lucid dream. This is somewhat common for me, although it hasn't happened in a few years. I just don't remember it ever being like this. I woke up in the dream,

in the back of a car with three boys my age, early 20s. I could hear music playing. I could hear tires on the road. There was blue sky, few clouds, a line of trees on our left. It was a warm summer's day, but I didn't know where we were or where we were heading. We were on a country road, no markings, and there were open fields to our right. I remember noting that we were driving on the right side of the road, which they said was strange because they drive on the other side of the road, I believe, in reality.

The issue is I could hear, feel, see, smell, every detail, which is very uncommon for my lucid dreaming. Usually things are kind of off. I couldn't fly out of the car or go to third person. None of the normal dream things. I could feel how uncomfortable I had slept in the back of the car, the sweat and the heat from being compact. My legs were sore from being too tall to fit properly. In real life, I'm 5'5 and don't have this issue. I was so confused.

I looked at the guys and they were chattering. the guy's in the driver's seat turning the volume down. I looked to the guy on my left. I was sat right side back seat behind the passenger, and he looked back at me confused. I said, I don't wear. My voice was very quiet and weak, as it usually is when you first wake up.

I was so confused getting stuck between thoughts. Then I said, I shouldn't be here. The guys chuckled a little out of confusion, but carried on. I said, no, this isn't right. I shouldn't be here. I have to leave now. The guy to my left looked concerned and said, dude, are you okay?

I learned as a child that if I get stuck in a dream, I can close my eyes super tight and wake myself up when I reopen them. So I said, I have to leave now again and close my eyes tight, waking myself up back in my bed. I got the idea stuck in my head that I woke up in the wrong body for a moment rather than having just a wild dream. Is there anyone out there who went on a road trip with their buddies, fell asleep in the back,

and then woke up briefly confused and muttering how they shouldn't be there before falling back to sleep, that would be wild, but part of me is convinced it was real. That's fascinating. I've never had anything like that happened, obviously, but I've read other,

a few stories, they're not usually common, but a few stories online of similar things happening, of people like coming to or perhaps they're falling asleep and being not in the right place, but people being confused as to why you don't feel like you'd be there, and then you kind of re-wake up in your other, but you have all the senses,

It's like the sense of smell and all that stuff. It's weird. Yeah. I, it's really interesting. Like, I think we were talking about this a little bit in the dream episode, but like going back to like what we were saying just a second ago about like these sort of like connections with between people, right? Like wasn't there something that I did an episode on that was like somebody was able to do a math problem while they were sleeping together? They were like both asleep and they transmitted information between each other to add together math.

Oh, I don't know about that one. but I have read the, and I think we talked about on the show on point, the lucid dreamers were they able to pass a word along. Like it was the same brain waves, like measured all this stuff when like the whole study. But it's like you can like you can. It's really weird. Like I don't know that happened, right?

Like yeah. Like so what the fuck does that mean? Can I am I like putting out a smell? Am I like, am I like, am I putting out a pheromone that has encoded like memetic data built into it? I am not educated internet clown. That's what I'm asking. I don't know.

But like it does make me like my belief, the more I genuinely blame the show for doing this to me. But like my beliefs have now gone to this place of like esoteric like shared consciousness on a quantum level of like kind of connectedness among people of like this idea that like when you die like maybe you don't have a soul, but maybe your impressions of consciousness filtered through this experience kind of rejoin a collective unconscious of like a permanent fractalization of reality of the universe experiencing itself in all possible ways and all possible like combinations and like maybe

there is just a shared consciousness that people maybe when they meditate who people who meditate or other things like you just every once in a while you just can open up and crack into briefly but I don't know because maybe it is all just like I don't fucking know I don't know I realize I realize it's a big leap from like doing a math problem while you're sleeping with someone to like opening your eyes in their body like if they're my little pony you know but like that's yeah yeah but i feel like i feel like there's something like i feel like the line that is impossible about that is already crossed by the scientific one see i think what if the what i believe we're really going to dissect this for a minute here because we have a little bit of

time sure sure sure if we're really going to dissect this what if it is and he woke up in somebody else's body but what if block universe theory is real and there's as many parallel timelines that sit on top of each other like there was just in another version of himself like what if he's just waking up in another version of himself on a reality that is like not super far off because in a block universe to humans there's technically it would feel like an infinite number of timelines but there would be a actual limited number of timelines that can fit in a block universe is just a number so high we can't count it's a peacemaker situation sure yeah like a piecemaker but like yeah yeah but yeah Yeah, he just, but like, what if that's it?

What if it was just like, you wobbled into another use body for a minute, which is why it's the same brain physically, right? So we would be able to receive the signal in a similar way. Yeah. But you're also like, this isn't my life. I don't know these people. And you go back to sleep and you can wake up in your body. What if that's what's happening?

Instead of matrixing somebody else's body, it's just you slipping into the block universe timeline. Can I, can I assert? please my new head canon based on your hypothesis sure is this literal head canon oh it is now oh I'm in I'm in for this I love this idea I'm so in okay if we exist at the same time and multiple universes across time and space and we're all overlaid on each other I like the idea now this is Cox this is Cox universe time this Coxian I like the idea that we are all but a fraction of one greater whole, but there are, let's say, 8 billion Mathis's. But each time a Mathis dies, part of him goes back to the collective Mathesies.

And what ends up happening is that when we see people in our reality who are 120, right, or whatever, people who are old, more of them have died and conglomerated into a super being until there is but one Highlander-esque version of us that is all the versions of us that is the longest lived. And only then when that person dies, do all of us is die? The immortal timeline. So like there's one version of us that gets to just live the longest. But it isn't like that guy's immortal. It's just like he just, you know, the older you get, it all funnels in and just get a little bit more like superpower until you're like 200 years old.

And you're kind of old regardless. The oldest one. Yeah. I don't know if you call it a quantum theory, but there's this quantum like thought experiment that's called quantum immortality with the understanding that what if consciousness is like a river. And it always will just seek the next thing it can be. So if you die, you, I may die in your reality, but my consciousness slips to the closest living version. of me. But we're all

little shards of ourselves. And then we come together reforming a whole over time. And that's like our transcended version, dude. That's like our karma. Like we're just like. Enlighten.

You understand. Yeah. That's my Jesse Head Cannon. I'm here for this. That's when you start to play fucking what's it called on SNES where you're the god. You start to move your little guys around.

If anyone wants to join my brand new religion I just created. But that's not even that far off from like philosophical. optical ideas of just like the universe experiencing itself and fractaling into every possible version of Jesse because there is like as little as you are the universe is also technically incomplete without you. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. You should watch the. You have to watch the Japanese. Every version of you. You got to watch that Japanese folklore film neon genesis even. Yeah. We're all just a big puddle of goo, dude. Yeah.

A little big red puddle. Except for two or three people. Seriously. watch that fucking show, bro. Oh, yeah, Ava was fucking crazy. If you're thinking about this type of shit, watch that show, bro.

Yeah, yeah, that will mess with you for a while. Yeah. End of Ava will not sit well. End of Evangelion is a crazy thing. You'll be like, what?

How old were you when you first watched Ava? Oh, dude, it was my first girlfriend was like, we should watch this. And I was like, okay.

That was God. I would have been high school at some point. Yeah, so we all had that 15 year old experience of like, watching Ava for the first time. Some stuff blew my mind. That was one of them. Metal Gear Solid 2 was one of them.

Killer 7 was one of them. I remember watching Akira in seventh grade and being like, what? What the fuck? But also at that time, they had Vampire Hunter D and stuff. And it was what made it great is because it's always in the section of like the DVD or whatever store in the back. Like for some reason, Akira was like, that's dirty, which made us want to watch it even more. Rips.

This is going to be the most old man thing I've said in a while, but I, I feel bad for the youth because they'll never have their minds blown from like a psychomantus switch controller ports fight. Like that'll just never have like you just can't. It's they're so there's technology is too good now. Like that simple thing will never. No.

Actually though, if you play Death Stranding, there's plenty of joy. There's plenty of bizarre gamer joy to be had. Death Stranding too was a fever dream. Bizarer Geyer Joy is exactly what you should say. Yes, it was a, it was the most Kojima game. I think I have ever fucking played.

I don't know why people. Outweirded its first one by a factor of 20. That sounds right. It sounds correct. Giant flesh mecks with like, I love flesh mix. That's one of my favorite ways to have dinner. I consider myself a flesh meck.

I love flesh mix. It's like, it's that are made of hands. Flesh mex made of hands. I have those. Oh my God. I know. It's crazy. But the.

but your head is the metal gear head from the metal gear wrecks great yeah that's that's how i view myself why do people who don't do drugs think that you can't blow your own mind like oh i know i know there's so much stuff that you can just think about that blows your own mind did i tell you have i admitted to you guys the revelation i have when i got really high one time and it to this day i think about this and i will do this to this day not high at all one time i got really high and i was laying in bed and I was like, you know, you tingle sometimes and I was feeling tingling. And I was like, you know what we don't ever do? And I started like almost cry. And I was like, I'm so ready for this. We never thank our white blood cells for looking out for us.

They're fighting for us at all times. They're just in us fighting the good fight. And we never thank them. And I literally was like verbally saying, thank you guys for keeping me going. They're alive out there. This is you on weed? They're alive in there. I was like, they're alive inside of me. And to this day, I am like, hey, white blood sounds? That's an anime right there.

I know you're really, you want to do mushrooms. Dude, on mushrooms, you're going to be talking like, they're going to be talking back. I want that. I'm just like, what are you going to be going to be going to be out of forever. I was just like, white blood cells. Thank you. Like, I got to make you immortal, bro. Why?

We're going to quit for you. We want to be more. Mortality is really. No one ever thanks their own body for keeping them going. No one. And I just want to say, you got to be like, hey, body. Thanks, man. I love you, bro.

You're doing its work. My like Martin Luther offshoot of Coxism, spiritual transference is that each of the dead use becomes a white blood cell in your body. And that's why you live so long. That's why you live to be like a hundred and a million years old. That's one of the core tenets of our new religion. Yes, yes. Well, man, I wish weed gave me weird, weird revelations like that.

I was like younger. I remember like, I remember like going to like dreamscape, visual dreamscapes on weed back in the day. Dude, even my first time smoking weed, that never happened. To be honest, most of the time I just laugh at like YouTube videos that are barely funny and I laugh really hard and then send it to you guys at like 2 a.m. thinking it's hilarious. Yes.

But I love those texts. It's so funny. I get to text at 2 a.m. I immediately know it just going to be a video. 6 a.m. so they're like really weird when I'm like on my in my bathroom time. But that's most of the time. But every once in a while I'll have like a moment of just like pure universal clarity of the dumbish thing ever. Like no one has said,

our white blood cells. We just don't think our white blood cells enough. Where are they? That's how it felt like it hurt me to my core that we just don't do that. What do we do for that? Our text chat is literally just us sending each other's links that we don't respond to each other to. I watch them. Trust.

Don't worry. We all do it at different times. Like, oh, okay, yeah. Don't worry. I see every single one of those dumb shits. Mine are almost always that one Tim Hidecker band about P. The Bell Air Direct app includes crash assist, which detects an accident the moment it happens, and even offers you emergency assistance at the tap of a button.

Okay, but what if I don't have an accident? Well, just keep on, keeping on. Bell Air Direct, insurance, simplified. Conditions apply. Anyway, last one's from Jesse. All right. You sack nine writes on Jesse's observation in episode 340. So this is a recent one.

Yeah. Please forgive me if I'm rambling. It's late and I'm in bed enjoying the sultry voices of my favorite of my favorite boys. Yeah, do it, Jesse. Oh, thank you for listening. However, what Jesse said at about the 40 minute mark, and I assume episode 340, about alien stories seemingly centered around, we're here to help you and guide humanity because it's lost its way really made me think.

I know several abductees were religious, and one even considered her abductors' angels. That being said, Jesse's statement rings true to me in many religions. There is a higher power that will steer us in the right direction. I grew up Christian, so I've always heard stories about angels helping or God, the Holy Spirit, etc., pushing you to do what he wants you to do. I wonder if the relatively recent phenomenon of people saying that aliens are here to help us is a manifestation of the same hope, that there's a higher power that will fix everything. everything that we don't have to take responsibility for what we've done and take action to fix the world because, oh, the more powerful beings will take care of it. It seems very human to me, almost passing the buck onto something else so we don't have to worry about it. Again,

apologies of this nonsensical. I just find it interesting. Keep it the good work fellas. I mean, yeah, I think that's, I was like trying to get at that is the idea that no matter what humanity looks to something else as like, you know, Alex was talking about comics. It's Superman. Superman is the angel alien savior come to earth to save us. And but what it really is, I think deep in our core is even though the idea of passing the buck and hoping someone else will solve it, the aspirational hope of all of these stories is that somewhere inside all of us is the ability to become Superman or become the angel, not in like flying and spiritual, but like, just be a good fucking person. You're going to get yourself out of your own problems. Yeah. And I think

there's an aspiration within us all to be like, not only do we want to take care of ourselves, we want to take care of everyone. And we do want to help the world. And like, I genuinely believe that within everyone is the capacity to be like a good ass person, but also you have to admit is the capacity to be a complete douchebag. But I'd like to hope that in the end, at the end of everything, people will recognize like, yeah, being a good person is the better way to go and treating others well is right. And so all these stories, be it, or an alien or God or whoever is told whether, again, like I was saying before, whether any of it's real or not, it doesn't matter.

It's the point of it is it is humans trying to guide themselves to something better, be it without outside help or without. And I'm totally here for that. My little white blood cell religion, they're doing it too. They're like, come on, you can do it, bud. You can do it. I would even with the alien thing, the issue is like, unlike the, say for Christianity, where they have the promise of Jesus coming back.

The aliens are always like, you need to fix your earth or whatever, but we're not going to do it for you. Like, it's always like you need to do it. Like, it's always you have to. Here's you need to save your planet, do all these things. But there is no promise of- They are blowing up nukes. There is a subsection that there's a subsection of the UFO like culture, I guess you

would call it, where they believe that they are preventing nuclear war. I don't believe that because if that was the case, why have they not disabled every nuclear device test we've ever done? There's like 500 of them. That makes no sense. Again, the detached observer phenomenon feels more apt. But a lot of the encounters with aliens is this overly like positive message of fixing your earth.

But it always is like you have to fix it. We're not going to come down here and do it for you. There is with that said, there is the phenomenon of. I know you said that like Jesus will just return. But there is this thing that I think, uh, we as a. the nation here in America really should talk about, which is the fact that there is a lot of people in this country who actively believe that if we are permanently, and this is, and it's like kind of diabolical in a messed up way, the idea that like if we ally with Israel and then Israel's

destroyed trigger the rapture. Let's go. Armageddon begins. And that's like fundamentally why they're like so pro-Israeli state is that as long as it exists. if it can get destroyed, then we're good. And then it's the end of the world and Jesus comes back, which is like a thing people believe. And that's absolutely fucking crazy, dude. But like, and those are people who are like, if I can just do this thing.

So it does fall on the same kind of like people need to make their, you know what I mean? Yeah. It's hard. It's hard when religion begets physical action in the world that involves you taking other people's lives to your hands. Yes. I find that really strange.

I mean, going back to comic books, talking about Mr. Miracle instead of Superman for a sec, the new gods are gods that are based off concepts, right? They're like the new gods. They're like a replacement of the old gods that died from an old world that we don't have anymore, right? So that's what they are. Jack Kirby is a fucking genius, right? The high father is about goodness and Darkside is about badness. And Darkside has something called the anti-life equation, which is something that you learn, and then it makes you an automaton. for the rest of your life, right? So when you learn it, it's like a thing that you tell yourself

that makes the world a place that's an unwinnable situation for you is the anti-life equation. And Mr. Miracle is kind of the god of escaping, right? He's an escape artist. And he escapes by changing the story from a dark side story of anti-life. He's immune to the anti-life equation. He escapes. He doesn't let the shape of things become evil. He thinks his way into a positive mindset where he can get out and therefore he does get out. You know what I mean? It totally removes the sort of moralistic vibe of it all. But it keeps that sort of mindset that we're talking about, that sort of like customizable modular mindset that you can kind of like slide into any religion.

And it's just kind of interesting the way that it places the power in your hands in the similar way that the aliens are trying to do. All that to say aliens are the new gods. Jack Kirby was right. The internals are real and the celestals are coming out of the ocean. I'm mixing Marvel and DC here, but you get the idea. Are comics soft disclosure? Dude, if something is, it's comics. If there's one art form that has been doing the metaphysical thing longer than any other in the modern world, it's fucking comics, bro.

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