Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 356: Project Blue Beam - The Origin of Truth

Episode Date: July 5, 2026

Drones? False flags? Fake aliens? Fake invasion? Fake JESUS? Fake GOD APOCALYPSE? Mathas takes the boys into the jungle that is notorious conspiracy Project Blue Beam, and uses his machete to slice away at and clear up some of its ambiguous origins, and weighs in on whether or not it's the sort of theory worth subscribing to.CHILLUMINATI is a weekly comedy podcast hosted by Mike Martin, Jesse Cox and Alex Faciane. Hold on to your tin-foil hats and traverse the realms of the mysterious, supernatural, spooky and sometimes truly horrible - and your third eye will never be the same!Subscribe to our Patreon to support us and for extra content like full video episodes, weekly Minisodes, exclusive art, and more at http://patreon.com/CHILLUMINATIPODThank you to our sponsors:Mike Martin - http://www.youtube.com/@themoleculemindsetJesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecoxAlex Faciane - https://www.youtube.com/@StarWarsOldCanonBookClub/

Oh, everybody, and welcome back to the Chaluminati podcast. Episode 356, as always, I'm one of your host, Mike Martin, joined by my own personal Kara and Clark, Jesse and Alex. Oh, my God, which one of us is Kara and which one of us is Clark? Oh, obviously, obviously I'm supergirl. You're supergirl? Yeah. I feel like you are supergirl, like in a way.

I mean, like, yeah. I don't know. Yeah. You don't even have to really explain yourself. I got like, you know, like I want to believe in goodness, but I've got like a negative streak to me. you yeah you're you're you're such a i'm cornbread boy scout yeah cornbread and chili beans you're punk rock i'm punk rock yeah i'm punk rock i listen to p o d whatever he said

yeah i listen to big bad voodaddy i'm underground i listen to the alt stations i like dave matthews yeah i was about to say yeah you're huge in day matthews and any toilet related incidents in chicago i listen to bands that nobody ever heard of before things like from the underground like like Lincoln Park. Yep. I love Lincoln Park in high school. Welcome back to the show, everybody.

The way you said that almost felt like an insult. I love Lincoln Park in high school. Listen. Well, there's no. Apparently people, apparently people hate Lincoln Park. Apparently Lincoln Park is not an enjoyed band nowadays.

No, that's, they're just a little bit lame. They're just lame because they're popular. That's all. Is that one? There's, yeah, they're way more popular than you maybe,

maybe likes to imagine. Is that why Nickelback is lame? No, no, yes. That's exactly, that's, don't listen, Alex. That's exactly right. Nickelback is awesome and they're only bad because they're popular and people are haters. I think, mud, I think. Puddle of mud, of mud, Creed rather. Exactly, just like Creed and Tool. And they're all the same. Creed, Nickleback, and Tool are all the same.

And anyone who says otherwise should leave a comment below. They're just weird. They're just weird because they're built off like being kind of artsy and different and like, kind of deep cut. No, well, we're actually unknown. We're actually like a lesser known thing. Like, we're like, Z level internet.

We're doing, oh, we're doing fine for three guys, right? But here's what I'm saying. Like, all those bands, we knew all of them. We know for sure. Everybody listening to this knows all those bands. Those aren't underground bands. Those aren't alt bands. Those are mainstream bands.

We, we, that's our spice girls. And we're going to be mainstream one day, too. Dude, if we're mainstream one day, I will, I will cry tears of joy. That is all I want to do is become mainstream. Become mainstream once in your life. I don't want to, I don't want to move on my morals at all. But magically, I want my morals to become mainstream. Yeah.

Sends me to the mainstream. That is the crux in which we say. That's why I'm super. That's why I'm Superman. Yeah. That's why you're super. Exactly correct. Because in real life, his mission is,

Impossible. Yeah. You see the good and everybody and Jesse sees the truth. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Mathis saw Supergirl last night. So he's got the, I got a couple quotes in my head. He's got it right there. Locked and loaded. I enjoy it because next week most of the movie will be forgotten.

This is the one time Mathis, yeah, this is the one time Mathis going to think about Zarnia and what it's like on Zarnia and what those people were like. I mean, it's like, it's like,

the Seth Rogan alien was great. He was fun. It's all right. Yeah. It's like maybe a seven at best. I don't know. It's a fine. Exactly. Exactly. It's not great. It's not bad. It's just a solid good to average good kind of movie. It's a real. It's a real movie that did not change the world. Correct. Exactly. But it's real. It's a real movie. What we do at Patreon.

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Full disclosure. I have no idea what the fuck's about to happen. No, no, we're not. But I'm going to ask you, okay, before we jump into the episode, boys, when I say Project Blue Beam, what comes to mind, if anything. Well, I think of Project Blue Book And it makes me... I mean, not a bad connection in terms of what it has to do with. It makes me think of aliens.

Yeah, I think of Project Blue Bunny, which is delicious ice cream. Also, yeah, that's extreme. So it's called Project Blue Bunny. Well, it's Blue Bunny, but, like, Project Blue Bunny is my, me going out to buy some. That's like a project I'm doing. Blue Bunny's the ice cream and they're, like, CD Project Bunny. Like they may. Oh, today's topic, gentlemen, is Project Blue Beam,

something that has kind of come back into the cultural zeitgeist over the past, I'd say two to three years now, especially within heavy conspiracy circles and very heavily in the UFO, UAP, alien circles. And we're going to start really kind of like, it's kind of wild to think about now, honestly, because for three weeks at the tail end of 2024, that's been two years now since this.

happened. The tail end of 2024, a huge chunk of this country ended up being 100% convinced that the government was hiding a secret fleet of mystery drones. And if you, we like we were all, this was crazy. This is what kind of reignited Project Bluebeam. And honestly, there was a comment about a little over a year ago on Reddit that says, are you guys going to cover it? And ever since that time, I've had it written down. And today's the day we're covering it. Yeah, if we were online at all during that time, you kind of already know what I'm talking about. It started off in New Jersey. Some guy in Morris County looks up one night and there's a light moving over Picatinny Arsenal, which is an actual active U.S. Army base. Great start. Within a couple of weeks, obviously it just

didn't end up just being New Jersey. It was New York, Connecticut, Pennsylvania, all of it, thousands of reports of drones. People swearing up and down, they're seeing drones the size of a car just sitting there hovering over reservoirs and power lines and military bases. A bunch of them were over Trump's golf course in Bedminster to the point where the FAA straight up through a no-fly restriction zone over the golf course, which if the goal was to make people less suspicious, probably didn't do its job. It felt unignorable at the time. Like the vibe, and this was not that long ago, but like just in case you were like 12 years old

at the time in 16 years old now, you know, like whatever. Okay, it's only been three years. Just fucking Christ, relax. Yeah, I'm just saying, like, just in case you came of age in that time. Yeah. It just felt very like, or you're listening to this in 10 years. I don't know. It just felt very much, like, real.

Like, it wasn't like a crack. It felt crackpot at first because it was coming from the crackpot people. Like, when my dad says, what's the deal with this clip? It's usually like a triangle that is like rendered on. a PS5 pro. Yeah. But this time, but this time, it was like, not my dad. It was like, there was like, I remember, wasn't this the same time when there was that like

the crashed one at the base? Yes, there was. And there was another one that got taken down somewhere. We never saw what happened to it. It feels undisputably like something was legitimately happening. Unignorable. Whatever it was human or not. Like, it doesn't matter.

Like the point is it was aliens. Something was going on. Something was occurring. Yeah. And the government. If you remember, the official government response to all this was, and I'm like barely paraphrasing here, it was just like relax nerds, like everybody chill out. You got the FBI came out, Homeland Security, the FAA, the Pentagon, all four of them were

putting out one joint statement together. And the whole takeaway was basically it's either regular drones or it's hobby drones or it's police drones or it's planes or it's helicopters. And then my personal favorite, like, it was. just stars mistakenly reported as drones. That was another one. This is the Biden administration too, right? Yes.

This is like actual people maybe. Well, it was end of 2024, into 2025, and then through 2025. So it was like into Trump's era as well. Yes. Which. Yeah, it was a mix of both. It's weird that it was one of those times where everyone in power was like, it's nothing. Stop overreacting.

Also, we don't know what it is. also we're shutting down the airspace around important things but don't worry it's nothing and so when the government came out and said that people did not take that well at all there was a CBS news poll from right around then where something like it said 78% of people said yeah no like the government is definitely hiding something and like when it takes four separate federal agencies coming out holding hands to tell you that the thing in the sky is actually just Venus or whatever the fuck they're trying to tell you it is. I feel like you earned the right to be like, is it though?

Right. Like is it though? Because all four of you are coming out and being like, and if you remember too, like there was also a point where like they were they all came out with a separate statement first and a couple of them contradicted each other. And then they all came together and released one big one. Yes. Yeah. Well, I was going to say like it's very similar to like. any of these other like sort of like innocence shattering type events where like like like when jfk

got shot that like because it was so crazy and there's so much like different opinions about it the actual reality of it starts to become like this huge thing when really like the real thing could be like quite small we don't know like how much is a ripple yeah that's really that's that's exactly it yeah like so like so this is all going on right obviously the whole thing does what everything does now. Once it goes online, it fucking mutates and catches fire. And somewhere in those few days, one account pours posts a few words in all caps with no context that says, quote, the drones are Project Blue Beam. People immediately think it's Charlie Kirk tweeting it because it's a Charlie Kirk fan account. Two days after that post,

that post, and as we know, Charlie Kirk ran all the Charlie Kirk fan accounts. obviously right uh but the two days later that post had over eight million views is that the songs about we are charlie kirk yeah yeah i think that's what it was yeah yeah about the bot accounts that it all actually him yeah exactly they're all charlie kirk um but again like people that's another reason though i think it took it took kind of became viral because people didn't realize it wasn't charlie kirk's account uh and they just kind of like tweeted that crazy isn't that like an insane mistake that like totally like validates every criticism we have about social media it does because like it doesn't even matter and it doesn't even matter that it's not charlie kirk's account because the cat is out of the

bag and literally days later we see rosan bar noted sane woman and not at all insane is now posting quote now you people see why i bring up project blue beam every week on my show like immediately she's tweeting about it then obviously the most trustworthy source of all time Alex Jones then joins in calling the entire drone panic quote the rollout of project blue beam and here's the thing like for a chunk of the people watching this this is actually the first time in their lives they've probably ever heard the words project blue beam spoken at all like this is their introduction to something that is much older than what people think project blue beam is and you got this it's like a meme it so it's like a meme theory that got big for me

minute. Well, we're going to go into the depth because it's a lot. Project Blue Beam has been around for decades. The theory, the conspiracy theory has been around for decades. It's gotten a resurgence because of the drones in 2024. Yeah. And like it sounds official like Project Blue Beam sounds like, I mean like it sounds exactly like Project Blue Book. Exactly. MK Ultra. Fuck, we, to be fair, we've heard much weirder names for secret government projects on the show before. But Project Bluebeam was something well before it's sort of reignited in 2024. And that's what we're this is about today. What is Project Blue Beam? And Project Blue Beam is a sort of prophecy. One dude wrote it down back in 1994. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This isn't a government thing. This is just something

some dude wrote down. That's why I felt it was important. We tackle it now because of its research. it's that people think it's a government. The conspiracies are convinced it's a government thing. Nobody does the research as to where it came from, but we're going to talk about all of that. Can I ask you a question? Is Q responsible for this? No, Q is not responsible.

I'm just saying it's pre-Q. How do we know that? Q from Star Trek, maybe. I'm not talking about Star Trek, I'm talking about Q anon. And if that guy is, of MI6, James Bond's gadget man. Right, right. That's who I was referring to.

Yeah, yeah. No, no Q involved. But maybe now modern 2024 stuff, probably. Maybe. Probably stuck to it in some way. No, Project Bluebeam is something one dude wrote down in 1994. And that dude was not a government worker, but a poet. A French Canadian poet.

I knew you were going to say he's a fucking, I was literally going to make a crack about it just a second ago. It was going to be like, don't tell me a fucking writer. made this up. A French Canadian pro it named Sergey Manast working out of a tiny little town up near the Vermont border was cranking this stuff out on a fax machine newsletter. Amazing. Who was fully completely convinced at the time that NASA was just about ready to fake the second coming of Jesus Christ. And I do not mean that metaphorically. You mean like you mean like wag the dog, but like, like a false flag, Jesus Christ. False flag, Jesus.

Wait, of it. Wait, is that true? Is this? Hold on. One. Hold on. Hold on. This is my favorite one so far.

So if there's, so, this is, like, stolen valor? Is this like stolen glory? But think about, I'm just like, even what you literally know, people believe this is real because they've lost with the origin.

They've twisted blue beam into being a fake alien invasion by the government. That's part of the. Blue Beam like. But originally, originally, it's an alien plot, was a beam of life. It's an alien plot.

Jesus would ascend except government sciop. Yes. We're going to, false flagged Jesus. We're going to talk about, yeah. So we'll get into it,

but like a quick pitch is, I'm talking hologram of Jesus. Like when Tupac was on stage? Will I am? Hold that thought. I wrote the Michael Jackson hologram. I'm not kidding you. I'm not kidding you.

The guerrillas. I said it, hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it, hold it, hold it. Every V-tuber, every V-tuber in concert ever is the progenitor of Jesus returning in hologram form.

You are unfortunately, like really on point, Jesse and Alex. Okay, tell me the hologram guys on the Epstein list. So, yeah, we're talking hologram of Jesus, the size of the entire sky, followed by God's actual voice. I'm sorry. You said a hologram Jesus the size of the actual sky. Yeah, the whole sky is going to take up literally as far as your eyes can see. That's too much. It's too much Jesus.

He would distort over time. Don't worry about it. If it's ridiculous. That's too much Jesus. Because on top of that, they're too showing. They're then going to beam God's actual voice directly into the mood of your brain. What do you mean?

God's actual voice. Well, God's fake actual voice. Okay. All right. I want to say like, James Earl Jones? A huge setup, but it's like the real gods there,

though, dude. No, no, like you as the person experiencing, you as the person experiencing Project Blue Beam would believe

it's God's actual voice being beamed into your brain. And the whole light show is built to crash every single religion on Earth the exact same second and hand whatever's left over to the Antichrist.

And then two years after he finishes. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. The real Antichrist? We'll get into it. Well, hold on, hold on. Hold on. This is my hook.

Hold on. This is my hook to get you invested, dude. Hold on. Spoil everything right now. The diabolical plan, the Antichrist's plan is to use the government to create a fake Jesus that sky size, use the voice of God to be like, hey, I'm here to crash all religions. And the assumption is, hail the Antichrist. Yeah. The assumption is all the other religions that don't.

don't give a shit about Jesus would be like, oh, they got us. They got us, dude. They were the ones that were right. They were the ones that were right. Who does here? He said he's not real. Every other, the vast majority of the rest of the world that does not believe in Christianity would be like, you know what?

We were wrong. My bad. Bro, we're on page two of my script. Please. We'll get there. I promise you. You are, you are leaping ahead. And I appreciate how excited you are.

You're only want to get up with this insane topic. But no cigar. So they're going to hand whatever's left over to the Antichrist. So after this, so after Sergei wrote this all down, two years after he finishes writing all of this. Antichrist! Why am I picturing a dude with just like a bulletproof vest on? Like, you know what I mean?

Like a fucking uncharted villain. Why is that the Antichrist? So here's the weird thing. And after two years after he finishes writing all of this down, Sergei Manas goes down on the floor. lore of his own house and dies in front of his partner of a heart attack at 51 years old. And depending entirely on who you ask, that is either the least suspicious thing that has ever happened to this guy or the most suspicious thing that's ever happened to this guy.

Can I ask you a question about Sir Jaminest? Yeah. Was he like a big unhealthy fat guy? We'll get into it, Alex. We'll get into it. I was the one who was throwing us off there. You were about to say Jesse. I didn't do rail.

No, no, no, no, we'll get into it. We'll get into it. We'll get into it. I was about to say, Jesse, what are you talking about? So that is the show tonight. We're going to walk through what this thing actually claims step by step because I promise you the real version is even dumber than what I just pitched you and so much better than everything else. And we're going to figure out where a poet in the middle of rural Quebec even gets an idea like this

and that trail runs straight through an old Navy conspiracy crank, a genuinely weird and awful nasty piece of anti-Semitic forgery, and a Star Trek movie that never even got made. And I swear to God, a Ronald Reagan speech at the United Nations. All of these things as God is going to be the size of the actual sky. Oh my God. So before we go dig up the guy who cooked this whole thing up, we've got to get on the same page of what Project Blue Beam even means.

And honestly, it's a little trickier than like it kind of seems because there are kind of two versions of this thing out there in the public. There's the one living in people's heads right now, the one from 2024, 2025 into 2026, and the one that's underneath every drone video of every UFO clip that you've seen online. Like that's the one we know. But then there's the original one. That's the one that was actually written down back in 94. They are not the same theory anymore. They have so disparately separated that we need to cover them both. So let's start with the one you've all run into.

Like a Kelvin, like a Kelvinverse? Yeah, like kind of a Kelvinverse-esque like Star Trek kind of thing. For sure. A lot of lens flare. I can work with that. A lens flare. A lot of lens flare. As a millennial, I can work with that.

Yeah, we can do it. So modern blue beam, if you boil down what people, People actually mean today when they say those two words, the core of it is the government or global elite or NASA, UN, whatever, pick whichever governmental villain you want, is getting ready to fake a gigantic alien invasion. That's the center of it now. The claim is that they've got the tech to fill the sky with a whole fake alien invasion fleet, ships and lights, craft, kind of like full on Independence Day production, Watchman. And like, yeah, Watchman is another good example. But obviously not one of it, a bit of it is real. It'll all be staged.

And the reason they'd pull a stunt that big is obviously the oldest conspiracy trick there is. You give all of humanity one giant shared enemy from outer space. And suddenly every country that was at each other's throats goes, whoa, okay, hold on. We got to drop the beef and stick together and stick together. And this is literally, this is just the plot of the watchman. Yeah. Watchman came out like not that much before this. No, no, no, yeah.

But this is the modern day one. So, and basically stick together is basically a really convenient thing that means hand your national sovereignty over to one single world government that promises to keep you safe from the aliens that were never there to begin with. Can I take a guess what color the dude is? Yes. Is it white? You would be correct. Yeah, I knew it. Of course.

Manufactured monster meets man. manufactured hero, extremely cliche conspiracy theory format, in my opinion. And once you've got that lens clipped onto your goddamn eyeballs, a believer who believes this is actually happening, starts spotting tests of the technology fucking everywhere. This is the part that makes the modern version really sticky in my opinion. So it's like Mysterio vibes? Little Mysterio vibes. Yeah, like it's all these things. Like yeah. Like the recent Mysterio, you know what I'm talking about? Recent Mysterio is a good example from No Way Home. Or, uh, Far from home.

Jake Gyllenhaal Mysterio with his like hologramed drone projection machines. Spoilers. But like anybody who's buying into this, like any weird thing in the sky suddenly becomes evidence. The New Jersey drones or a test run. Does UFO videos the Navy pilots keep putting out priming us? You ever watch one of those drone light shows where they fly a thousand little drones in formation to build a giant glowing picture over a stadium to a blue bean believer.

That's them rehearsing right out in the open right in front of your face. Today, it's Skeletor. Tomorrow, it's God taking up the entire actual sky. Also, to Jesse's point, dead musicians turning up as holograms at concerts. Tupac at Coachella, that whole shit, all rehearsal. The 3D billboards over in Tokyo

where a giant cat leans out over the street, getting the tech ready. Anything that involves light, anything anybody's ever seen up in the sky, all of it gets folded right in to modern project Blue Beam. And what honestly, like, makes it kind of clever, honestly clever than the like original Blue Beam conspiracy in one specific way is, you know how over like the last few years the government has actually for real, no conspiracy required, started admitting that UFOs, sorry, UAPs are a real thing they can't explain.

Pentagon putting out the footage, congressional hearing. guys sitting there under oath going, yeah, there's stuff flying around. We genuinely don't know what it is. For most people, that's the government finally leveling with us. But to a blue bean believer, that is the most suspicious thing. Phase one. That could be possibly happening because in their read of this whole thing, the government isn't coming clean at all.

They're softening you up. It's slowly, deliberately getting you comfortable with the idea of aliens so that when the big fake show finally kicks off, you don't even flinch. you've been primed for it your whole life, which means the more the government admits about UFOs, the more convinced these people get, they're not real. There is no piece of news

that can talk these people back out of it. And honestly, it's like, again, it's a clever, it's an oerboros. It's like an engine that never finds an end because everything that happens gets cranked right in there and makes them believe even more that project moving is happening.

It's really kind of just like, like Renee Descartes in a way. Like it's like, it's like, right? Is it the right guy? What? I think I know what you're talking about. Is it a dream, right? How do we know it's not a dream all the time?

Like everything that you see, you're just like, oh, it's just an illusion. It's like, everything is not believable. Yeah. It's the same thing with AI where like almost it feels sometimes like AI is being pushed on us so that we can't stay tethered to reality. Like it feels like it feels like by giving. people the plausible inability to say that everything is AI,

it lets them sort of like live in their own world, ever build their own like cliches, like us. Yeah, even though you can't really ever reach your fake world and your brain, it makes it as real as any other world.

Yeah. And like to that point, like the thing propping all this up and I think the reason it feels believable right now in a way it maybe didn't 20 years ago is that we are all living in the fucking deep fake era. We are watching like in real time AI get good enough to put out a video, put a video out of anybody saying anything. I mean, spaghetti is starting to look real good.

Yeah. We've, I was going to say, like, we've all seen the fucking AI video of Stephen Hawking participating in the X games. You know what I mean? It's crazy. We've all heard about the scam calls using a clone voice of somebody's actual grandkid, which is fucking crazy now. Like, so the ground is already fertile for this kind of thing. And once you know for a fact, they can fake a phone call from the fucking president. The jump to they could fake something in the sky doesn't really feel like a jump at all anymore.

It feels like, like, you know, there's a real conspiracy feeling. There's like a real paranoia that this type of thinking, like as an educated person who like reads the news and reads publications, like, there's something to this fear, right? I don't think the government is going to succeed at convincing us. are invading, but I do think, like, you know, doctor news footage is probably in our future, right? Like, we're going to start getting a lot more shit like that that the CIA makes, right? That's, yeah. I mean, there's, there is a conspiracy. There is like something to that, but I do think, like, there's another element of this that feels kind of similar to, like, the idea that, like, a photograph can, like, steal your soul or something. There's, like, some kind of, like, technology

fear here. You know what I mean? Oh, great. I see exactly what you're saying. And I, I, I, I, I, agree and like like while you seeing used to be believing like now nobody can really be totally sure and blue beam like lives right down that crack it lives right there there's even like oh he's right down that crack it's right in that deep in the crack consensually it's moist it's very moist and kind of a little sticky blue be there's even a real piece of tech that kind of keeps getting drag getting dragged into the voices in your head part of this that they something they call the fray effect or voice to the skull where microwaves can make a person hear a sound inside their own head with no speaker anywhere.

Like that's a real piece of technology. Isn't that also the military research? Isn't that also the Havana? Yeah, we now know the Havana syndrome's real, the microwavable weapons of like burning somebody through walls. Like this thing I'm mentioning is small scale, as far as we know, small scale military tech like research. But that's enough for a fucking believer.

That's step three right there of beaming messages into your head. So that's the shape of it right now, the modern belief, a fake alien invasion that's staged in a world that already can't trust anything previewed by every drone and UFO hologram you've ever seen. Like everything, I just walked you through the aliens, the invasions, the deep fakes, the big fake war, all that shit. Like all that stuff, that's original. That wasn't part of the like bluebeam stuff, like the way that he's posing it now. Notice how holographic Jesus isn't mentioned in any of the modern blue beam theory. It is all... I know.

It's all one world government takeover under the guise of a fake alien evasion. It's basically that simple if you boil it down, but for nefarious purposes and stuff. The crazy thing about it to me so far is like... And maybe you're going to get into this, but it doesn't seem like a lot of thought as being given to like the creative. element that this would require, at least, like, in terms of, like, the theory, like, to make a believable alien invader and, like, what, what it would take to convince people that aliens are actually invading, like, from, from, like, a cinematic perspective. Well, they'll say, like, this seems so silly as a plan.

And it will land, but it won't be actually aliens. It'll be government, like drones or, like, made things. I think what Alex is trying to say is, okay, they've landed. step two is essentially non-existent. Yeah, like who are they? Where are they from? What is their language? Well, so like the plan,

that's the other part of Bluebeam is they wouldn't land in peace. They're going to invade. So the government would attack its own cities, kill its people, send the world into chaos. Sure, sure. So the government could then come in and rescue them. With laser beams?

Drones. Oh, yeah, microwave weapons. Like, again, all this tech that we are, is being researched, not like bullets, but like microwave technology. Not like fake alien spacecraft flying around and squid monsters coming after people. I don't think it would be squid monsters. I think drone-like ships would be flying around in pretending to be aliens.

Okay, well, my point being, that part of this is the part that I feel like what it would require to convince everyone that what they're seeing is not just, you know, some high level mercenary tech or something like that. Right. Like I just, it's funny to me that this would be the plan. Like the amount of, it takes like two billion dollars to make like a movie franchise. Like it's just funny that like they would make something so creatively taxing as their plan. It's, it's, it's the thing is it's like it's vague enough that it can fit everything. Like it's non-specific on purpose so that the, so that everything kind of fits the mold. It's a date in the future that this is going to happen, which leaves infinite time for research and magical technology to start popping up and filling in these holes. Like,

I know we're going to get much like we did with like the fake moon landing episode. You're going to get people who are super mad. For all those listening, you're fucking stupid. You're goddamn idiot. Like, like, we're going to go back like blue,

if you're a blue beam believer, I'm sorry. Those listening. They're out there. They're out there. They're out there. For those who are getting mad that I'm saying project blue beam isn't real. You're all dumb.

Do your research. Do you reading. Because blue beam, again, that's the modern interpretation. but let's real to them. It's real to them. It damn right.

That's just like Santa Claus is real to your children. It's like the Snyderverse is still real somewhere. Somewhere the Snyder versus. W.B. is coming. They got bought and they're bringing it back. He's coming back. He had to snap his neck. He couldn't cover his eyes with his hand.

He's coming back and you all just can't handle the truth of it. The deals are being made with all the actors. So like the thing with Blue Beam and if any of these people who believe it would like look a little deeper, Blue Beam was never really about aliens at all. Aliens were part of it, but it was actually all about God. It was a Christian apocalypse written by a deeply Christian man, and it is so much more specific and strange than like the modern day, like poor copy of it, like the like lamer version of it.

And so let's go through it. I mean, it's actually a four-step process, exactly we're going to go through it exactly the way Sergei Manasht wrote them down. This is the facts. This is the OG fact machine version. This is the OG 1994 version of how this all went down. Obviously the point of order,

could the government not have co-opted this and you are a willing or unwilling stooge of the state? And by saying this information, you are propagating a lie that will allow them to, get this alien invasion going because you're saying it's a religious thing not what it really is

are you reading one of the comments from the angry like Project Bluebeam believers I'm just saying he's figured us out we got abort we got to abort kind of go time to go he's figured it out gotta go got to go got to go he's like no course of course anything and everything fits in and Q was actually the head of it like you can squeeze fucking

now you know how I feel when you guys do alien episodes there's no talk I'm the time slice guy you can't talk to me about aliens I'm the pay. I can't even talk to you about the time slices that I was here for it. No, that's why I'm crazy. I'm the green stone.

That's why I'm an insane person, Jesse, because I tried to as best I can't follow the paperwork. And the paperwork for this goes, you could follow it right back to the origin point. Like you, like, this is like not a difficult thing to, it's difficult in that there's no main source. There's no like book written or like any of this. You have to like disparately put this shit together from the pieces that are out there. And then they don't want you to know, bro. Exactly. So I'm here to inform you.

I think actually probably yes. Yeah. Yeah, no, exactly. So the other part I want to just lay out before we jump into the four steps very quickly is that the other thing is Manast didn't write down any of this like in vague terms. Like this man wrote out like a project manager four step in order detailed like step by step guide as to how this is going to happen. So even more so that the modern day made this all vague is ridiculous.

The goal of the end for all this four steps never changes either. It's always the same thing. one government, one religion for the entire planet with the Antichrist sitting right at the top of it. That's the whole ballgame for the actual Project Blue Beam. A real biblical antichrist. We're going to get into it. So step one of all of this. Manast calls this the breakdown of all archaeological knowledge, which I mean on paper sounds

boring, I guess, but like, it is insane. The idea is all over the world at very specific chosen spots, NASA and the powers behind it are going to set off artificial earthquakes, man-made quakes on purpose in very specific locations. And why would you do that, you ask? Because those earthquakes will quote-unquote uncover things. New discoveries, ancient artifacts, some buried documents maybe, are archaeological finds that just so happen to prove that every major religion on earth has had the story wrong this entire time, that your scripture was misunderstood, and that the priests and the imams and everybody in between have been misreading it for a century. But I mentioned imams specifically because the targets here are specific.

It's Christians and Muslims first and foremost. That's the whole design. Would you say, Alex? I don't remember. What did I just? I don't know. I don't know what you said. It seems like you asked a question.

But we can continue. So the plan is to shake something loose out of the ground and you put it on every news channel on the planet at once, just like the disclosure day by Stephen Spielberg. And the message is, well, would you look at that? Turns out you've all been praying wrong for 2,000 years. Wrong praying. The point at this stage isn't to curve convert anybody yet, though. The point is just to crack the foundation to get billions of people to quietly question

if any of it is real. Right. Okay. Now I remember what I was going to ask about earthquakes. It's like the earthquakes occur in targeted places around the earth, which then like shifts some rocks around and books fall out. Yeah. Like the artifacts and underground cities and stuff.

Oh, another realm of another wing of the library was planted there by the government over time, of course. Okay. So because a person, like, so they want to get them to question it. They don't want to, it's going to be slow. And because a person who suddenly isn't sure what they believe anymore is a person you can, it wasn't believe anymore, then they become a person you can hand a brand new thing to believe. And handing that new thing is step two.

Step two is a big one. Step two, Manas' own name for this one is the big space show in the sky. Very, very original name. The actual sky. The actual sky. And this is the part obviously everybody kind of remembers and kind of latches on to. This is what I said earlier. This is the holographic Jesus part.

And let's get it actually how this works because it's kind of incredible. So basically what he says is space-based satellites packed with lasers are going to project three-dimensional images up into the sky, like just open actual air right over your head everywhere on Earth at the same time. And Manas doesn't leave it at and then magic happens. He actually gives you a mechanism. He says there's a layer of the upper atmosphere about 60 miles up that's full of sodium. And they turn that layer of sodium into the movie screen to create a planet size.

Think of it like a drive-in screen. So not only is the plan that we're going to make a giant Jesus the size of the actual sky. Yeah. But also part of this plan is hinged on the fact that we don't understand anything about the Earth's atmosphere and that there's actually a layer of sodium up there that nobody's talked about or known about until project. They know about it, but they keep a, oh, they've been, they've been, they've been hanging back.

Yeah, because they're going to use it as the movie. They haven't been talking about the sodium because they were like, oh, we're going to use that as a projector. Okay. For the record, for the record, there is a layer of sodium in the Earth's atmosphere. However, that layer is almost, it's 60 some miles up. Oh, because he was right. So would we see any of that?

Would we see Sky Jesus? It'd be the size of the sky. So yeah. Clouds would be in the way. A solid. We'll wait for a clear day. A solid layer of sodium everywhere. thick? It has a thick layer.

It says that there's a permanent global layer of free sodium atoms. I mean, it's not like, you know, salts in the air. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I didn't research to see if there was sodium in our atmosphere. That is not part of the research process for me. Okay, so at least it's something that exists. Okay, yeah. Now, the next part, the, I guess, I don't know what you want to call it clever?

it won't end up being one image for everybody. The projections will be regional. So if you're standing in a Christian country and you look up, damn, Jesus. Muslim country and you look up, hey, look, it's Muhammad. Hindus, you get Krishna. That, first off, that's how you know this dude does not. How are you going to tell the difference between who they are? Like, is he going to be like, hey, what's up?

It's me, Jesus. Hey, baby, it's me, Muhammad. No, I will say. currently there's a tech they're using in sports where if the camera's pointed at an area of the like arena or field or pitch or whatever right the signage will change based on the region you're at yeah ads that's way easier than yeah it's easy look step one baby

that's step one it's a hey it's the beginning of project you know is that is that Jesus or is that Shiva first of all, if you, okay, if you drew Jesus and you drew Muhammad, which you're not supposed to do, right? Like, if you, if you, like, if you, if you like cast those people and then you just like projected them into the sky, would they have to introduce themselves? That's what I'm saying. Like, would, is there a look? Is there a look for those guys that like, would we all know? One Jesus show up?

Like, like, that's, that's, I imagine, yes. Like, I imagine that's how it would go. I imagine this guy probably believes Jesus was like. to everyone? I got you an answer for that, actually. So obviously, everyone's going to see, depending on where you live,

you're going to get your own version of your guy coming back. Your guy. Your guy coming back. He's going to be perfect, like life, a life like three-dimensional, and with a voice,

speaking every language on the planet at once. Vibrating into our own skulls based on what language we speak? No, just speaking every language at once. Just out of speakers. Yeah, yeah.

Or through, I don't know. Anyway. Like, sodium resonance. When it's like it said in English and then it said in Spanish. Yeah, exactly like that. Yeah, yeah.

It's the same message through the, and Manast swears that even the smartest, most skeptical people alive will fall for it. Even the ones who absolutely should know better, you're all going to fall for it. And then once the whole planet is on its knees, crying and praising their separate gods, like, you know, boozes, a booze.

Buddha, Jesus. boozes. Boozes. It's any phrase like a frat house god. Basically, once that happens, all of them, each individual figure

will begin to slide and move. And then they will all slide and merge into one individual figure. So one single. Oh, right. Hold on.

Hold on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem. I got you. Only because you mentioned this earlier

and I have to bring it back. I might have you. I might not. This is, to release Star Trek 5. Yeah. This is literally when they go and he's like,

perhaps this would better suit your expectations. And then he just becomes every deity ever. Yeah. Is anyone on Earth going to ask? Another. What does Jesus need with the drone show? Doesn't that come out before? Doesn't that come out? Didn't that also come out before 1994?

Yes. Oh, for sure. Yes. We're going to get to it because their Star Trek is involved in all of this. So in America, Jesus is going to be like a white dude. Yeah. I imagine, yes. And then Spanish, in like, in like Mexico, it's going to be like, but a suzy goody that.

Yes. Yes. Yeah. And then they all merge. And then it'll just be one single glowing God with one face for the entire world. Literally, Star Trek 5. And that guy is the Antichrist. Literally, Star Trek 5.

That guy is the Antichrist. That guy will be the Antichrist. Literally. The real Antichrist. Literally. Literally Star Trek 5. So is there, so there's, so there's an occult aspect of the government then. Yes.

There's like a star child also. The point is like a moon child. The one God, one face dude who merges together is supposed to show up and be like, all your old religions? They were all pointing at me the whole time. You didn't realize it. And now I'm here in person. So let's get everybody in line, baby.

And now, Doctor, all of Earth will bow before the master. Bring your ship into orbit. I must escape. I must escape. Is it the actual Antichrist? The holograms become a holograms become a hologram antichrist. A real guy that's been working with the government who is the dark, a projection. This is all holographic projections.

It is a real. Antichrist, though. The Antichrist part is part of the plot of the show. Yes, correct. Okay, okay, okay. Yes. I see. So that brings us to step three.

Manasse says that at the same time, all of this is happening in the sky. They're also broadcasting a bunch of low frequency radio waves, the ELF, VLF, and LF stuff, if you want the actual acronyms for it. And these waves are specifically tuned so that they reach a person from inside the their own skull. So this is the microwave. This is exactly that. The voice,

so the voice moves from external coming from the projection. After it merges, becomes the antichrist, the voice becomes internal. From what feels like, just kidding. The idea is supposed to make it feel like it's coming from your own soul. And every person on earth all at once,

now dead certain that their God is speaking straight to them as the Antichrist one on one from the inside. But, but most really, Do they know he's the Antichrist? Don't believe in the Antichrist? This would mean nothing to them. Do they know he's the Antichrist?

Well, no, no, no. See, Jesse, forgetting. Everybody's belief in their religion is shattered at this point. The only thing they believe is just being projected to them. Now, this is under the understanding that everybody now believes what they're seeing. There's not even a Christ anymore. Skeptical and smart person is going to fall for this. Step one was crack the foundation.

Step two was eliminate their beliefs. Step three, which we're on, is to round them all up and make them completely. subservient here. You can't think, you can't think logically. This is not a logical thing. You gotta let it go. So the other thing is like these voices will, in your head will also be personalized. He says these satellite signals are getting fed by computers that already hold gigantic

files on every single living human on earth. So the voice in your head knows you. It knows your name, fears, it knows your dead relative, the exact thing. There's no physical way that all seven billion people could get their own personal message. Hear me out. Hear me out. There's no way. That's why they have the data centers.

Project. Okay. But even if they had seven billion data centers worth of people. Details aren't important. It doesn't, like the logistics of it. There is no computer. There is no AI. AI.

AI. Yeah. That's it. We're there. Quantum computers. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The idea is custom built God one per person whispering to you from inside your own head about your own private information. This is literally the plot of Marvel.

It's a lot of plot. Judgment day. It's almost like this guy was a writer of some kind. Dude, I'm going to, I'm going to tombstone this dude. This is crazy. So. And to prove this is possible, Manast reaches out and grabs a real person, an actual U.S. Army lieutenant colonel who wrote a paper on psychological warfare and quotes him more or less saying that if you can feed artificial thoughts into people's mind by satellite, then mind controlling the entire planet is now on the table. And Manast reads that and goes, see?

Mind controlling the entire planet. But it's like we've already read so many times where we're like MK Ultra is the government trying to figure out mind control. Just because the government is interested in trying to figure something out doesn't mean they fucking succeed in figuring out what it is they're interested in doing. But for Manas, that's it. That's like that's the evidence right there. They told us right there. They said, like, we walked through so many different projects in the World War like two where they tried a bunch of different ways to like use animals and stuff. And that shit doesn't work.

Like the craziest one was the one where they put the like bats that eventually catch on fire. Yeah. Yeah. Like they try. Like once you realize that, anything is possible. Right. So funny. It's just like throwing shit at the wall, right?

It's like 99 times you, nothing happens, but eventually something sticks to the wall. Yeah, exactly. And we'll get, again, that's also something you hold on to with this guy in particular. So we go to step four now.

This is the one that Manasse calls the universal supernatural manifestation done by electronic means. And he basically breaks us into three different plays that they can run, depending on who still need to break. Step four is basically, if there are any stubborn, holdouts, this will be the end of it. The first play that gets put on somewhere in the world is the fake alien invasion. And like, again, this is the, this is the only part that the modern version

has grabbed onto. But for Manast, it was only one of the three possible things that could be playing on Earth to convince stubborn holdouts in part four. Okay. So we, the God is real, but aliens are invading. Both are real. Yeah, yeah. God is real. And by this time, do we know that the big voice is the Antichrist yet. No, no, you all think it's God, you're like an individual God in your head. Yes. They basically make it look like an off world invasion is about to come down on every major city on earth at once. The whole thing that we talked about in the modern day thing with the lights, the ships, all that shit completely staged. And the purpose of it is to panic every major nation into firing off its nuclear weapons at an enemy that was never actually there.

get the whole world to empty their arsenal at ghosts. That's like another way to get them to like dearm. So this is basically like a plot that the Ewox would use to get out of like a scrape with some stormtroopers on a global scale. On a global scale. They've used up all their bullets. The second show that'll happen is aimed at Christians specifically. They're going to fake the rapture.

You let believers think this is finally it. You know, this is the moment they've been waiting for their whole. lives and then a nice hard thing to fake well yeah but then a nice friendly alien civilization comes gliding down out of the sky to lovingly rescue humanity from all the demonic horror that's suddenly kicking off down there so you go up willingly and you walk right onto the other ships thanking them and which are all government plants that are not real then play three is the strangest one but it's the one that kind of ties it all together manasse says the same wave technology lets these forces travel through wires,

basically fiber optic cables, through your phone line, through the power grid, and into every single piece of electronics in your home. And he specifically claims there are already chips in place to make it happen. So now it's not just the sky and in your skull, but now also all your technology

is going to be completely captured by this whole thing so that you're going to end up having voices coming out of your walls, out of appliances and supernatural phenomenon will happen within your home. So even if you don't believe that any of this is real, you will not be able to deny that your house has supernatural phenomenon coming through it. And God is speaking through you through your walls and stuff.

He was like, I'm about to blow somebody's mind with this thing. And unfortunately, he did. He blew a lot of people's minds with this thing. And Manasse has a name for this whole crescendo too. He calls it the Night of a Thousand Stars. That's in the three. How dare you? Because they're drones?

Because yeah, it's all fake alien invasion stuff. Dancing and singing and acting and like, you're going to see all these comedians get together and like people you haven't seen for a while. It's going to be great. A damn collapsed or something and we're raising money. Yeah. Well, in this, unfortunately, not in this version of the night of a thousand stars.

Basically the plan for this is when it's all finally over, the way he talks about it. He says the entire population of Earth at this point will be so scared and worn down and desperate for somebody to just make it stop that they'll take the new Messiah and the new world order and they'll hand over every last state of freedom they've got happily, gratefully, just to feel safe and make this insanity stop again. That's the plan. Start to finish. That's the actual original project blue bean. Yes, Alex in the back. Yeah. Okay. When is the reveal that it's the Antichrist?

Oh, that's just for the government, I guess. He calls it the Antichrist. I would love to sit here. There is no reveal. There is no Denu. Like, they're just the writers like, actually, that guy's anti-crise, but they don't know it. They don't know that. They think he's got the end.

Yes. Yep. But he's actually the Antichrist. But no one knows that. But I do. But it's not a true story. It's just a made-up story. I'm going to blow your mind.

None of this is true. What? There's secret elements. This is the problem. This is why conspiracy theories get more and more vague. Because the more specific they get, the more questions show up that don't make any sense. I feel like it's a pretty core,

quite, like I was, okay, maybe I'm just a Marvel cinematic universe junkie now. But when you bring up the plot thread that the guy who is the voice of God in everybody's head is actually more of a, evil figure, more like an Antichrist type figure, you think that's going to come back later, but actually that's just a piece of information for the audience outside of the story that. The characters, us, don't know that.

But anyone watching the story is aware that that's the Antichrist. That's for us to judge the people that this happens to. Right. Right. So like the Antichrist is more of Manas's label for what this thing is rather than the actual literal version of the Antichrist. So he literally made up a situation and then was like, those fools never realized that in fact,

they were in the pocket of the Antichrist. Correct. So. Those fools. Those fucking fools. Like, after listening to that, I hope your question is, how does a fucking poet fucking write all this down and make a step

by step screenplay for taking the fucking a pop- As somebody who smokes weed all the time and stays up late, I know exactly how he, wrote it down. I want to know why everybody went, I like that. Well, yeah. The answer is he didn't invent this. Not really. Because it was invented in 1989 in the movie Star Trek 5.

Final Frontier. And Alan Moore's The Watchman. Well, what Manasta actually did was he took three completely different ideas from three completely different places and then haphazardly welded them together into this one machine. and we're going to go and lay out the three pieces separately because he got the ending from his church. He got the villains from the old Navy officer. And he got the special effects from Star Trek, Jesse.

I wasn't kidding you. So let's go one at a time. First piece, the religion. Manasse grew up in mid-century Quebec, which, if you don't already know, was about as intensely wall-to-wall Catholic as anywhere North America has ever been, which I didn't know about Quebec. And I don't like apparently like this is not just like soft. It's like hardcore religious out that way. Whole culture is all them. Look at all them choices.

Yeah. Apparently there's a whole culture out there that just soaked in end times theology with the book of revelations, the coming of the Antichrist, the works. So the entire back half of blue beam, the one world false religion and all that stuff is coming out from that aspect. It's it's basically from his upbringing. That's the bone standard. Catholic Catholic apocalyptic dread.

Watch out for the Antichrist is a big concern for him in his life. Yeah, yeah. Agree. Exactly. And he had a specific hero here. A guy almost nobody had heard of, a Quebec essayist named Renee Bergeron. Way back in 1941, Bergeron wrote a book called The Mystical Body of the Antichrist. And that book is basically the theological engine for everything Manast would go on to

believe. the idea that there's this vast secret coordinated force that's working here on earth that's like building an anti-church and all that stuff and greasing the rails for like an anti-crice takeover. Manast that came from that guy and Manast loved this book so much that late that decades later. Is it a novel? Is it a what is it? It's like a book written by this guy.

Like a story? No, like his he's again, he's like an essayist writing about. about the like the theological stuff of this. It's more of like, I think like a research look at all this kind of thing. Okay. But he he loved it so much that decades later in 1993, right before he goes full Project Blue Beam, he actually personally reprints it and writes his own introduction for this book. So like this is not a guess as to where this fucking thing came from.

We have direct threaded evidence to where his like Antichrist storyline comes straight up. he straight up tells us who his teacher was. Bergeron handed him the ending of this whole thing. And the what are we even scared of? Like, this is just, this is all from him. Peace two is the villains. Because like, obviously the Antichrist is a great villain. Don't get me wrong.

Fantastic villain. Huge villain. One of the best. But like, Antichrist needs some henchmen, right? Somebody's got to actually be down here doing the work, building the anti-church and pulling the levers to run this whole thing. And for that, Manast had a second. hero and this one's a guy is a guy named William Guy Carr. So Carr is a weird character in his own.

He's British-born, Canadian Navy, real guy, real career, checked, served on submarines in the first World War, comes back and serves again in the Second World War, retires as a commander, like legitimate military man. And then he retires and he goes straight down to the rabbit hole and he starts cranking out books. The big one is called Ponds in the Game from 1955. And Carr's entire deal, the thing he basically builds the whole modern American conspiracy universe on top of is the Illuminati, of course.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we love them. His claim is that there's this ancient secret society quietly running everything, both sides of every war, communism and capitalism, all of it at once, hidden, and there's a hidden hand steering the entire planet toward a single one world government, and there's a folklorist who studied this stuff, who called Carr, just about the single most

influential source there is for the entire American Illuminati mythology comes from this guy. And Manast loved this guy. Like car and just to like give you an idea of how car worked because it kind of tells you everything about like what Manasse plugged himself into. One of Carr's all-time biggest smoking guns was a letter he said had been written back in 1871 laying out a detailed master plan for three future world wars, which was very specific and spooky. He even gets quoted to this day. But there's a problem. It's fucking fake.

There's no letter. It never fucking existed. The British Museum, which Carr claimed was holding it, came right out and said on the record in writing, we have never had that document. It is not there. It never was. And Carr cornered actually had to admit it and tucked away,

admitted it, but he had admitted it talked away in a fucking footnote. Like he admitted it was fake in a place in a way that like most people didn't realize. Which, by the way, it was fake. Yeah. which is too ashamed to be like he got called out by the Smithsonian, the British Museum rather,

and he was just like, well, fuck. So the foundational smoking gun of this whole tradition is a forgery that its own biggest promoter quietly copped to making up in a fucking footnote that nobody knew or read about. So it took, it caught fire.

This is why this shit drives me crazy. And I call it people who believe Project Bluebeam dumb. But it's going to, like that kind of like level of stupidity, it's going to keep happening. Now here's the part that we don't get to skip past either because it's the root of the thing. So when Carr talks about this secret hidden hand running the world, the quote unquote international bankers, the ancient cabal pulling every string, yeah, we're going to get into it. It's not sounding good on purpose.

He is pulling directly from a piece of straight up anti-Semitic propaganda. The whole Illuminati runs the world. story that Carr was putting out there and selling and that Manast then swallowed wholesale is downstream of the oldest and ugliest conspiracy theory on earth. The lie that says a secret Jewish cabal secretly controls global money and government. That's the documented lineage of this stuff. Plain and fucking simple. The forged tech's car built his career on are laced through with this shit. And Manast took all of it, the machinery and the anti-Semitic poison sitting underneath this thing and ran. In fact, one year after Blue Beam, Manass sits down and writes his own knock-off

version of that exact piece of anti-Semitic propaganda, files the serial numbers off and gives it a brand new name. And we're going to come back to this, but like, is one of the serial numbers that it's Jews or is it like that he just he just is just general hatred? Yeah what I'm saying is he's stealing somebody's work pretending it's not his is his also anti-Semitic? Yes, it's all come. It's all

laced through once like you can't get out of it. Once like you realize this where it's come from, that's where you can't get out of it. You just can't get away from it. Crazy. But I just want to like put that there because we're going to talk about that in a little bit. There's also a money angle that's still worth a quick mention here too. Manast ran close to

a Quebec political movement called social credit, which was this whole monetary conspiracy scene fixated on the idea that shadowy international bankers were secretly rigging the entire economy. And I want to obviously be very careful here, but fair, because the actual record only ever puts him in a nest near that world, but he wasn't like a card carrying member within the social credit political movement. Also, to be clear, I feel like we need to be fair and that it doesn't require. international people to run up the game and screw everyone. People at home can do that.

You have your very own oligarchs. Homebred, American, Canadian, I live in a state that they completely whining bitch about everything else and then they go vote against their own interests and blame everybody else. It's not an international cabal of bankers. It's here at home,

guys. We did it. We're number one. We're number one. We did it. USA. USA. It's a national cabal of bankers.

Exactly. It's a national cabal of rich Christians. Sorry, guys. Epstein Island, dude. Epstein Island. So this money angle is worth mentioning because it all, but like while he wasn't part of that political movement, you can still kind of see the fingerprints all over him.

He like that fixation on like a secret financial elite controlling everything through money, the slow creep, a cashless totally tracked economy. Remember, Manasse wrote that into his plan. By the exact flavor, social credit was using. For people to flip on their conspiracy theories, remember when everyone was like a cashless society is how they control us. And it's going to be the worst future.

Anyway, all those people love crypto now. Yeah, because their God and savior, Elon Musk said it's awesome. So they just don't have to think because Elon Musk said it. It's almost like none of the people can't separate being rich and being smart. Like it's, it's hard for people.

Well, how else would you get rich if you're not smart? You're right. You're right. His dad wasn't already super rich and there was in a lineage of money. You're just jealous.

He just got a small loan. That's what the international bankers wants you to think. That's right. That's right. You wish. We got Bergeron gave him the Antichrist and Carr gave him the Illuminati. So he's got his ending

and he's got his villains. But it's still the main. missing piece, obviously the light show. And that, ladies and gentlemen, we have to talk about Star Trek. This is where this all comes from. Special effects, it's like my favorite piece by a country fucking mile because it is so goddamn funny. So here's the thing you have to keep in mind, Bergeron and Carr, those guys had hand menaced,

all that other shit. They do not give him holograms. They don't give him satellites beaming 3D Jesus into the sky. The answer is right there back in the mid-1970s. with a man named Gene Roddenberry, the guy who created Star Trek and wrote a script for a Star Trek movie that never ended up getting made. And that movie was called The God Thing.

Do you know anything about this non-made movie? It exists. It's out there. I don't, but there is a Star Trek movie about God, right? Five, right? Yeah, Star Trek Five. Yeah, that's literally Star Trek Five. So, yeah. The Undiscovered Country?

No, that's six. Star Trek 5 is, oh my God, what is that? That's not the way. Oh, the voyage home. Star Trek 5 is God in space. Final frontier, gotcha. I said it earlier, I could remember. This unmade Star Trek movie from Gene Roddenberry called the God thing kind of just goes like this.

The enterprise runs into this hugely powerful entity way out in space that claims to be God. and it's heading straight for Earth. And it sends down a probe that takes on human forms, including the form of Jesus. And the big twist is that this God is actually a broken down alien machine. And one of the writers on it later summed the entire plot up as I quote, God was a malfunctioning spaceship. That was the plot of five?

No, this is the unmade Star Trek movie called the God thing that he came across. Oh, okay. This is before five. This is like, I'm sure five took elements of it. But not really. Yeah, okay. Yeah. No, this is the God.

This is so much closer to Project Blue Beam. Understood. Yeah. So basically the plot of it was God was a malfunctioning spaceship. And it doesn't stop there. There's an actual aired episode of Star Trek, the next generation from 1991, called the Devil's Dew. This is a plot that's also important for you to hear about. It is a con artist shows up on a planet pretending to be the literal devil.

out of their mythology. And how does she sell being an all-powerful supernatural being? She fakes it with technology. She sets off earthquakes on command. She projects giant images of gods and devils into the sky. And Captain Picard beats her by proving the whole show is a hoax and its holograms, forest fields, and a hidden cloaked ship pulling off every single miracle that people see. So now we've got manufactured earthquakes,

God's projecting to the sky, like all exposed as a high tech con running on a television three years before Manas ever even started writing this stuff down. This three disparate pieces that all come together rather convincingly. Now, I'm not trying to sit here and be like, Sergey Manas sat down, watched Star Trek, it was like, aha, I'm going to take this and repackage it. I've done that. That movie didn't come out five years before. this though. Let me tell you, I've done that before.

Yeah, no, no, never done that. I don't know if I never saw, I don't know if it ever saw print, but I've, I've thought I've had the greatest idea ever after just basically copying it from something I just watched. It happens, you know? Yeah. But obviously, to be totally fair to this guy, there's no evidence, like, I don't have hard evidence

that he was deliberately lying or knowing or ripping off at, like, Star Trek in any fucking way. But it's, what makes us land so hard is that a big biography of Roddenberry that laid out the whole God thing plot in detail came out in 1994 right around the exact time Manasse starts to give lectures about Project Blue Bean.

And for me, this is kind of the part that seals it is that Manass himself in his own lecture does point straight at science fiction movies and tells his audience they were psychological preparation. So that stuff like 2001, a space odyssey was getting humanity softened up and ready for the coming deception. So by his own admission, he's obviously watching and taking in sci-fi content. So it's not that far of a jump that he was taking in Star Trek as well. And then there's one little name I did mention the beginning of this that I haven't covered

yet, the last little seed. This one happened in 1987, President Ronald Reagan, standing at the podium of the United Nations in front of the entire world and said this, and I'm quoting him exactly word for word, quote, do you want to give like your own Nixon impression? It's one sentence. Fasiani has a Reagan. He should do this. It's very, it's just one sentence.

Wait, is it Reagan or is it Nixon? Reagan. Did I say Nixon accidentally? Ronald Reagan. Not Nixon. I occasionally think how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world. And that's Manast,

ran with that. Osiemandias. Like the fact that he... Watchman. Exactly. For him from Manas, having a sitting president of the U.S. out loud at the UN, kind of daydreaming that a threat from the outer space

would unite all of humanity under one banner, take a... This is a guy who's primed to believe all of that shit anyway. So of course, he runs with it in step four of Project Bluebeam with the fake alien invasion that's meant to scare everybody into uniting.

So there's, that's, that's the whole recipe right there. That is where Project Blue Beam comes from. All of this Antichrist, the Antichrist out of his church and out of Renee Bergeron, the secret world running cabal out of William Guy Carr, poison and all of the anti-Semitic stuff. And the holographic space, Jesus and fake alien invasion, all that shit comes out of Star Trek. And then the one stray line from Ronald Reagan speech is all it took for the soup to be built.

So the last thing we're going to talk about for this episode, who was, and who was fucking Sergei Man asked himself? And when I started digging, the part I did not see coming is like, but if you met this guy, if you had met this guy in, say, 1978, I don't think anyone would have looked at him and gone,

I guess, this is the man who will come up with the prophet of the holographic anti-Christ angle and we'll come up with all this. You'd have looked at him and gone, he's a writer. Is he a big fat guy? Honestly, I didn't look up a picture of him.

Because you said he died of a heart attack, like on the middle of his floor and his house. Yeah, we're going to get, we're going to get all to that. He died in 1996. You get, he's a chunky guy. Yep. All right. He's a bigger guy. But he may have, but hold on.

He may have been prone to a heart attack. But hold on. I don't know what the future holds for any of us. But I'm just going to send you this one image of him. yes yes this guy is ah

fucking Orson well yeah this guy like he looks like he lived through the like I'm old so I get to be weird now phase of his life

that's kind of what happened to him oh Paul Misan makes the best wine he only lived to 51 and he didn't get all that old you know but like he was a writer like

for his entire first stretch of his adult life, Sergey Manas was a legitimate working published author. The man published poetry, like actual poetry collections back in the 70s and early 80s. He wrote essays. He wrote a whole book chewing on Quebec identity and character. In the mid-70s, Manas co-wrote a straight kind of sober government-commissioned sociological study on the Quebec family for an actual provincial social affairs council. like this guy was legitimately doing like actual work in this stuff and it was as far away as

fucking NASA as fake and Jesus with a sky laser as possible at this point. Like it's weird where he began and where he went. Sergei did real journalism that real people actually did read for 15 to 20 years. He was just a fucking guy like a working writer in Eastern Township of Quebec. And then somewhere in there right around the late 80s, rolling into the early 90s, the man took his turn. Bergeron, we laid it all like, who all this stuff. And he builds his platform for himself out of all the stuff that he pulls from

these other people. And he founds this thing he calls the agents international de press libres or the international free press agency, which sounds like a news, like a real news wire like on the surface. Sounds like routers or rude as far you say. Yeah, it's the vibe of one of those like, Reuters? Writerly whimsical.

Reuters, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, but, but like, it just sounds, it sounds like, he's building something in a newsroom somewhere. He's getting started, but there was not any of that being built. As near as anybody can tell, the, the international free press agency was just one guy in Magog, Quebec with a fax machine and a mailing list. Time out.

Sir. Time out. He lived in Magog. Magog, MAG, G-O-G, Quebec. As in demagogue? Oh shit, dude. Oh, shit. I mean, like, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Oh, sure. I must, like, are you aware that, of the biblical connotation of Magog? No, actually. Gog and Magog?

Magog being like an apocalyptic symbol of evil and forces opposing God. Catholic. It's maybe makes sense. It's all super Catholic out there. All of it's super Catholic. I don't know. that if I was super Catholic, I want to go live in Maga? Like, it's just crazy.

This guy's obsessed with the end times and apocalypse and the Antichrist and literally lives in a place that is like team bad guy. May I, and I don't do this often anymore, but the man may be chaos magic to himself into like, he surrounded himself with all this stuff that he ended up living in a place named after. He just turned it into it. Just like, yeah, he's literally becoming what he thinks is real. That's crazy.

That's nuts. He was self-publishing. operating under a name that sounded kind of like a real institution, but he was just a one-man wire service reporting live from the end of the world. But a fax newsletter only gets so far. The thing that really put him on the map and the thing that made him an actual name in Quebec was television. One show specifically, a show called Esoterismetia.

That was way more Spanish sounding than French. I apologize. But this was a weekly show that ran on a show. a community access cable, of course, in Quebec, all the way from 1976 to 1997, hosted by an esotericist and UFO guy named Richard Glenn. It's very like, weirdo TV. Yeah, exactly. It's exactly that.

And the show was exactly what it says on the tin, basically. Week after week, they would have on guests to get their UFOs, secret societies, world governments, hidden meanings, talk behind the world of religions, the whole shit out on the table for people. and given everything we just went through last act, one of Glenn's actual signature moves on the show was using big mainstream science fiction movies, Star Wars especially, as teaching tools for his esoteric stuff.

So the exact show that made Manasse famous, this guy whose whole light show Apocalypse rhymes super odd with Star Trek plays all coming together into a big old Project Bluebeams soup. Manasse goes on the show and it just fucking works. By the accounts I've got, he comes across as a man totally and completely gripped by one single idea, the coming world government and audiences remembered him for it. That interview is his launch pad and it is the moment this guy goes from poet

into like weird profit of this thing. Jesse, were you going to say something? You looked like you were about to say something. No, I'm just, it's shocking. the way that that even though he's in Quebec and this is Canadian

how very like American coded it rings Oh absolutely But I guess people like this exist everywhere It doesn't matter your nationality or religion or whatever You there's always going to be someone who's like Don't you see

This goes all the way to the top Yep of course Well one dark footnote on the host of the show because I'm not going to just fucking pretend this dude wasn't a complete piece of shit. In the year 2000, Richard Glenn was convicted of sexually assaulting a minor, a boy in a case going back to the early 1980s,

and he got sentenced to a year in prison. And he spent the years since disputing it on, like where else would a guy like this dispute it, his own website. Twitter, I was going to say, yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'm not going to say in re-literate a 25-year-old fucking case, but the dude got convicted for assaulting a minor.

So go fuck that guy. Yeah, of course, because this is another place where those kind of people just hang around. So the last thing we're going to talk about here back in the genealogy of all this. I told you Manas didn't just inherit all this stuff from a mental conspiracy, but he inherited the poison that sits underneath it, the anti-Semitism. In 1995, Sergei Manast published a book called The Toronto Protocols. And to get at what that book actually is, you first have to know about the thing it's copying. because there's a document out there that's called the protocols elders of

is that what you're doing yep holy fucking shit yes jesse yep yep yep uh exactly but that again i really want to dig into the roots of this shit to show you really the dirty the dirty earth this is all coming from and it's because it's actually all connected and you're just saying that it's fake because you don't want to believe it man yeah you're right you're right it's like old this is like old that makes it real how many of these people actually did the reading the research and didn't just listen to a podcast. Shoot. Because there's like, so yes, we're going to talk about very briefly here the protocols of

the elders of Zion. And it is, if you don't know what this is, the most infamous and destructive piece of anti-Semitic propaganda ever put on paper. It first turns up in Russia around 1903 and it presents itself as the secret leaked minutes of a meeting of Jewish leaders sitting around a table, calmly plotting how they're going going to take over the whole world. Sees the banks, sees the presses, the government, and it is a total and complete fabrication.

It got made up. It got cooked up most likely by the Tsars secret policed, and big chunks of it were straight up plagiarized, basically word from word, out of an old French political satire that had almost, rather, had absolutely nothing to do with Jewish people in the first place at all.

Like it's so obviously and painfully fucking fake that people like, again, I don't know how people believe. I have a personal problem with people who I feel like can't critically think and take like a step. And if you like a question raises in your mind, huh, I wonder where that came from. Instead of doing any research, you just trust the person who tells you. If you don't believe me, go do the research. Please, I beg of you, spend a couple hours and go do some basic reading. because like it's so painfully obviously a proven folks hoax it got publicly and definitively exposed as a forgery a proven hoax by a reporter at the times of london all the way back in 1921 and it did

not matter a real thing that matters and more of a it reaffirms a person's worldview and thus that's all it makes you feel good right and that's all it takes that forgery went on to become one of the engines of an entire century of anti-Semitic violence. The Nazis handed it out. Yeah, they handed it out. It is still in circulation right now, today, 2026. That is the document, Sergey Manas sat down and rewrote. His Toronto Protocols runs the exact same playbook.

Same format. It claims to be the leaked secret minutes of a cabal of the most powerful people on the planet gathered in Toronto, coldly spelling out their plan to grab the world and stand up in the new world order. He literally kept the whole fucking outline. The leaked minutes gimmick, the we the conspirators shall now reveal our evil master plan voice, the whole blueprint for the global takeover. All of it is just lifted wholesale off of the elders of Zion protocols.

He changed exactly one thing where the original names. the elders of Zion, where it names the Jews. Manast files, like, gets rid of that, files his own version of it and the group he rebrands as the group 666, the six biggest banks, the six biggest companies and the six biggest food companies and, for good measure, the freemasons.

I love the six biggest banks, which are companies, the six biggest companies, which are companies, the six biggest food companies, which are companies. The second one was the six biggest energy company. Oh, all right.

Yeah. And then fourth one, the Freemasons. They're there. They're always there. Sure. For whatever reason. I buy that. Yeah, yeah, okay.

Yeah, yeah. Basically just getting rid of the word Jewish off of the protocols of the elders of Zion does not make it stop being the protocols of the elders of Zion. I just want to make that very fucking clear. This man reached for the single most notorious anti-Semitic hoax in all of human history and was just like, well, if I just, this, you know, if I just, this, you know, change that name to that name. Now if the protocols of Toronto, it's not anti-semitic anymore. We're clean.

Makes no sense. It's annoying. And so like when you're a conspiracy guy, as we approach the end of his life, after this is all reprinted and he gets all those books out, how you die ends up mattering honestly, almost about as much as anything you ever said while you were still alive. That was like a sci-fi novel.

Right. Like how this guy. dies, and it's going to be the same with Bill Cooper when we talk about Bill Cooper. The way they die is part of like the lore of it all. It almost serves as a separate piece of evidence for the believers in this stuff. Because if this guy died quietly, like imagine if this guy wrote all the stuff. And then he died quietly in his sleep at like age 90 fucking five. And that's the end of it.

Nobody writes a legend about that. If you suddenly like go right in the middle of your crusade, right after you spent years telling everybody the powerful people you want gone, congratulations, like you become a martyr almost instantaneously that way. And a martyr story, unfortunately, doesn't die. It just goes to fucking work and begins to spread. So Sergei Manasse's death is really two totally different stories. There's the one the coroner wrote down and there's the one his followers will tell you

to this very fucking day actually happened. And the gap between the two stories is like, again, much like Project Bluebeam, it's the butt crack in which the belief festers. It is where, like, it is the unbelievable and the believable unable to come to terms in where the believers sit. So first, the record. And this is the boring, sad, documented truth of what happened with the one with an actual coroner's name attached to it. December 5, 1996, a Quebec coroner named George. George Gigeres lays out Sergei Manasse's last day, and it is about as ordinary as a last day fucking gets.

Around four in the afternoon, Manasse calls his partner from a shopping mall over in Sherbrook. Tells her, he's not feeling so good. He's sweating, says he's going to wait a little while before he drives home. He finally gets home around a quarter to eight that night, and a few minutes later, after he's through the door, he collapses. He goes down right there on the floor in front of his partner. and a neighbor who also happened to be there at the time. The ambulance comes, runs him over to the hospital in Lackmagentic,

and he's pronounced dead at 9 o'clock. Cause of death, heart attack. They did an autopsy, and the autopsy found out exactly why he had a fucking heart attack. Sergei Manas had severe heart disease, badly clogged arteries. One of the main arteries feeding his heart, the coroner clocked it at about 90% blocked. Dude. 90%. So what you have, like, what you have in front of you medically for this corner is a 51-year-old man under a crushing amount of stress, flat, broke, walking around with arteries to his heart almost completely closed off and very unhealthy in weight.

and one December evening, his heart just quits. You could hand that autopsy to any doctor alive with the name scratched off, and they would not so much as Raisin Eyebrown be like, yeah, no wonder he fucking died of a heart attack. Like, it's no conspiracy. That's the truth. But there's still the story version. Because Sergei's Manasse followers will tell you flat out that none of that is what really happened. They will tell you that he was assassinated, murdered,

and silenced by the exact people he was busy exposing. And the method, the method they use, they say got used on him is a directed energy weapon, a device that beams a signal at a person and it just stops the heart. It artificially triggered heart attack. Okay. Well, that's hard.

It's a hard for you to believe. No, it's the Canadian government. Like, no. The Canadians, they're pure evil. all know. It's not that it's hard for me to believe. It's just like everything is just, there's always like some technology somewhere in a story that's like, and then there was no trace. And the thing is, is Manas covered himself with this because it's almost, it's like word for word

almost a piece of the kind of technology he was talking about in Blue Beam with the stuff that would vibrate, the beam weapons that would vibrate messages into your head or shit like that. Like, so he kind of authored a whole theory about how this could happen. And then he gets killed. So of course, the people believed him are going to think that that's the reason and not that he was a genuinely unhealthy individual, right? Like, it's crazy. They'll tell you that Manas had zero history of heart trouble, perfectly healthy.

They'll also tell you the state had already rolled in and seized his kids to punish him and shut him up. Oh, my God. Wait a minute. Their takeaway is? Terrible parent. The state did that to shut him up. Yeah.

Yes. They were doing it to like torture him and ruin his life. Right. That's so weird. Yeah. They're also going to tell you that the day before he died, Sergei got arrested and he spent the last night of his life sitting in a jail cell. And then he went home and dropped dead the very next day,

almost like something got done to him while he was in that prison cell, which is, don't get me wrong. Fucking hell of a story. But let's go see where that comes from. that entire assassination story, the arrest, the night in the cell, dead next morning, all of it traces back to basically one single source. A single newsletter, and it's called The Despatch, and it was an end-time's Christian newsletter being cranked out of Queensland, Australia,

of all places on earth, back in late 1996. That's where the story the believers believe comes from. And when you actually pull that thread and pull the newsletter up and read the thing for yourself, which you can and you should go do if you are interested, it doesn't just fail to hold up. It fucking came apart like trying to hold water in my goddamn hands. The simplest fact to start with is that the newsletter says, Sergei Maness was 46 years old when he died. He fucking wasn't.

He was 51. They whipped his age by six years or five years immediately. which is not a great start for a document, too. That's being treated as the gospel for this man's death. But it gets better because the same newsletter in the same single issue actually prints two different accounts of his fucking death right there. In the same paper? In the same paper, the same newsletter next to each other, like near each other.

And they contradict one another. The first one gains you the version everybody remembers, which is the original. rest night in jail, dead the next day, nonsense. But then you go down a little and there's a second write-up, a memorial notice from a totally different guy, a man over in Illinois. And his version says something completely different. His version says Manas collapsed and died in his wife's arms right after he got home, which, hey, funny thing, lines up with the corner fucking said perfectly. And on the whole arrest angle, the second account says Sergey was never jailed or held at all. It says he and his son got picked back, picked up back in September months before,

and that because Sergey was a known public figure, they let him go. And it was the son who ended up in foster care. No final night in a cell, no dead the next morning nonsense. So inside, dude, like inside this one newsletter where this thing originates from, we have two goddamn stories that just contradict each other. The second write up, the memorial one, comes right out and says the official coroner's report confirmed he died of severe coronary as well. The fringe source itself admits the coroner found a heart attack.

And then the newsletter's own editor reads all of that, the contradiction, all of it, and writes, and I'm barely paraphrasing, but like, he goes on saying, quote, don't go thinking he died in his wife's arms, it means the man wasn't murdered. Just go ahead and decide he was murdered anyway. way.

The literal author's like, just go ahead and decide he was murdered anyway. He's like, make up your own truth. I know, I know I don't have the facts here, but you know what, why don't you just go ahead and believe it?

Yeah, I was going to give you both stories and why don't you go ahead and decide he was murdered anyway. That, that, that newsletter is the whole whole origination point for the assassination legend that grew up,

that kind of grew out of one newsletter from fucking Australia where it printed his age, wrong and carrying two stories is the way it's where it all fucking came from and that whole history of heart no history of heart problems line the 90% blocked artery they found in the autopsy would like a fucking word with you like what are you talking about you don't have no heart problems and then have a 90% blocked artery in your goddamn heart remember how during covid they were all like well if we stopped testing for covid then we won't have any cases like maybe

you just didn't go to the doctor, that's why he has no history. You know what I mean? Like if there's no testing done, then you have no history technically. Exactly correct. Exactly how I think that's how it went to. Uh, so why did this story stick? Like I did like, you know, I want to analyze this for a second. It stuck because it was in, in a way that can only be for conspiracy theories. It was stuck because it was fucking too perfect. Manast built himself. And it had a entire worldview where the enemy kills people by giving them heart attacks and then Manass got a heart attack. You already believe the man.

You did not process that as a sad coincidence. You processed it as the universe handing you proof that he was right about everything. His death, like, again, even if you want to take that, why would the government not kill him in another way? Like if they knew he wrote this like weaponry. It's exactly the same thing where it's like, why he made? that lore choice when you have so many other options why why why commit to this reality when you could have done something way cleaner yeah because like when you peel all this back at the end of the

day like sergey was kind of a tragic man by the end of his life right like he was being eaten alive by his own paranoia because he started I don't say started he believes a lot of his own bullshit if not all of his bullshit because he believed the people he was pulling it all from He was also dead, broke. The same newsletter says he had $14 on him when he died and like whatever that source is worth. It wasn't a picture of a man living large either way. And he was walking around at 51 with a heart that was ready to fail on him at any given fucking day. And one December night, he just came home and just had a heart attack and died.

And that's it. And the thing that outlives him is his legend. So there's your whole picture of Project Blue Beam of the guy who, created it, the origination source. Guy was a poet, a journalist. He was a father. It was also a man somewhere in his like 40s and 50s that walked straight out of the ordinary world of being a journalist.

And right into the conspiracy apocalypse world, he built around himself. And when he died at 51 years old in 1996, it was only the beginning of Project Blue Beam becoming a mainstay in conspiracy circles to this day. But I beg you, if you ever see out there, Project Bluebeam, and you have an inkling to believe it for a second, do some research, do some reading. It's crazy which of these conspiracy theories you can literally find the source of and pull up and read why, as convincing as all this may be, none of it is real. It's all coincidence. And technology is just growing as it has all of our life. It's depressing and frustrating.

Yeah. It's depressing and frustrating. Yeah. It is. That's why I wanted to do. do it because the project blue beam stuff, especially with how heavily the conspiracy heads are running with it and nobody really like addressing that this is like a, this is like you can trace this. It's frustrating. So I wanted for a long time to do an episode on and like, let's just fucking crack

this thing open. Let's look at it, bear in the essentials and laugh at how absurd it is, but how easily and quickly in an age of social media misinformation and people who just think anybody who's sitting behind a microphone is intelligent or informed, including. us will just listen to us. So I know if you don't believe us. No one, no one listen to this thinks that. Let's be clear.

I try not. I try to be as scary and miss, misinformation as possible. Yeah. Telling you as much truth as I can. Yeah. Yes, you do.

It's great. Like, I, like, I beg you if you still like, don't believe you think I'm part. Go read. Go do the research.

You can find all of the stuff. The sources are not that hard to find if you know where you're looking. And like, I love this shit. It's crazy. You're like, guys, I'm not part of the cabal of the government.

trying to sigh up you. You of all people, that's the funniest shit I've, like that's how out there's some people are. Yeah, I guess. Like, I don't,

I feel like if I was part of the cabal, I wouldn't be doing this episode. Or would you? That's true. That's true. Shit. I just wish the, I just wish the CIA paid better.

Right. You know, that's the issue is they just, it's not a lot. They assume you're going to have money when you get in. And when you don't, it's kind of bummer. Yeah,

that is a bummer. It is a bummer. It is. They're like our secret meeting is happening in Barbados. Like, bro, I don't have Barbados money. No. And Alex had to ring with his own money, the pneumatic tube device. Yeah.

This is awesome a lot. This is all like, you know, I will call it ramshackle. Like, it's ancient, it's storied, but it's never been rich. Yeah, exactly. So boys, where, so how do you feel? That's the end of Project Bluebeam. Final thoughts. Do you think it's real?

No. Just fucking with you. I would like to see sky Jesus though. Like the size of the sky, I just conceptually don't even know what that would look like. Yeah, I don't know how you'd like, you'd see it like his nostril. I feel like it's easy to let your zealot brain hear this kind of information

and go like, no, but it doesn't matter how I got the story. Like the truth of it is what matters. God wills it. The lineage of the story doesn't matter. But it's like, yo, no, it does matter. Like that's why you feel weird. now that's why your body is like making your denial like you're doubling down in a weird way because

it isn't true but that's why we learn this stuff it's like you can't just pick anything that you want to be true and make it true just by deciding to believe it that is not actually a thing that's like a huge misconception about existing and living and thinking so uh eat my shorts you my shorts and on that thank you all so much for listening we'll be back next week with a brand new episode. We're off to go to a minisota over at cheloupatron.com slash ChulamaniPod. Oh, yeah.

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