Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 39 - Alex Internet Mysteries Part 2 - Lake City Quiet Pills

Episode Date: January 12, 2020

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Alex Fosyani. Hello, sir. And Jesse, what up? Nothing you believe is real. No. Get out of here. Let's do this air. Do us a say. I was literally about to say, happy 2020, everybody. It's been, I hope you enjoyed your holidays

and your new year. We're going to start, you know, more open-minded and optimistic this year. And I can't even get a word in edge-wise for Jesse. I am optimistic because you guys will not let that wool be continued to be pulled over your eyes. You know why this is called 2020, Jesse? Because this is the year that your vision becomes clear.

It's actually getting worse. My prescription is actually much worse. I mean, like, fuck, OK, yes. Already been a wild 2020. I think we all already, like, politically and supernaturally. Have you guys been following the strange drones over in Colorado that are running grid shapes over at night, which is the wild.

The wildest thing to me are the size of the drone. Yeah, they're like big. Yeah, they're like playing like a small plane sized, I guess. And they they run in like grid patterns and they move around. And nobody knows what the hell is going on. I would wager. It's a test very similar to the test that you see. Was it Hong Kong? Where was it?

Where they did the Olympics? No, the drone, New Year's countdown thing. You saw that, right? This year, I didn't see it. But I saw the one that they did at the Olympics. This was like a similar thing where it was like a big giant drone ballet. Right. Yeah. This thing is was even more complex and even more crazy.

But for weeks, maybe months, they were testing it and people would like freak out. Like, did you see the thing? The drones are planning something. And it was literally just for this. So as much as I want to be like, of course, a government conspiracy, it could just be a company testing things. So where exactly is it?

I got to give you the specifics one second. Colorado UFOs, that the thing is like when they're flying, how long they're flying for the size of them. Rado. Yeah, I mean, they're a little tiny drone boys. The Super Bowl is in Florida, right? So I couldn't be the Super Bowl. So what could it be?

But it also does depend on size of drone, right? Because there are drones that are like little buzzy boys and then there are drones that drop bombs on people. So it's like the drone the size of a cow we're talking about. Yeah, this is like not personal, not possible to personally own type drones. Like each drone is somewhere they assume somewhere like in the tens of thousands of dollar range, like five thousands. Probably, yeah.

But if we're going off of Colorado, Colorado, isn't that where they're supposedly the secret underground bases and the airport's actually a secret facility? Illuminati. Here's what it is. Here's what's the regular boring Illuminati. So literally this happened. This was update January for all those listening. This was updated January 9th, 2020, the latest article here.

Colorado Homeland Security Plains have been sent out to try and figure out where these drones are coming from and they can't find anything. So at least on the state governmental level, they're trying to figure it out because it's constantly happening. So if it's a federal government thing, then maybe. But it's definitely not state government because they're sending out planes to look for these things. I cannot wait to find out what it is.

Yeah, it's very strange. I hope it's not the beginning of the like AI war against humanity. And it's not just Colorado. That's just where it is. Mostly Nebraska is also seeing them. And I want to say there was one other state that see that that's seeing them. I'm hoping it's just like I'm hoping it's just some type of like illicit. Uh, you know, corporate testing four days ago.

CBS FBI is investigating drones flying over Colorado and other states. Yeah, I'm wondering if it's like a company that's like, like, you know, like a like an Elon Musk type, but they would be violating airspace and like law international like law, which is why that's so interesting because they don't have to follow us, Mathis. They don't have to do not anymore, not any longer. Yeah, they just get they get they get penalized. Less than they made in profit.

Can I just really quickly talk to you about money for a second? And how crazy it is. So today I was reading an article. This is companies don't ever have to play by the rules. Today was reading an article about spending, right? Especially political spending. And it was talking about the Democratic candidates for president. And it was saying that, you know, like, oh, yeah, these people spend

a couple of million and it was like, I think it was Pete Buttigieg and maybe Bernie Sanders spent 10 million. And then it was like Tom Steyer. I think that's his name was like, yeah, fifth, like, I don't know, 50 million. And then it was like Mike Bloomberg, one hundred twenty one million dollars. Oh, by the way, he has 55 billion dollars. And when he ran for mayor of New York, he spent 250 something million. And they're like, he could just fund it all by himself

and spend as much as he wanted. And I was like, he's like, pay to win on it. Yeah, just like think about the nature of money for a minute. And realize how rich some people are and how every day some people are just like, boy, I'd love to make more than seven twenty five an hour. Yeah, man, I would love to have a sandwich today. It's ridiculous because at that point, at that at that level, it's like money just becomes numbers, like means numbers to obey laws.

If you have five billion dollars, you can fly your damn drones. And if the government's like, we're going to find you one million, you're like, OK. And if you're out there and you are rich and you're offended by what we're saying. Fund, you know what? Put your fucking money where your mouth is. Fossian, a Gmail. Oh, come on, man. It's Illuminati pot at Gmail dot com.

Support your local artist. All right. It's crazy. That is wild. That's in horrendously upsetting all at the same time. Right. But anyway, the the drone thing, keep your eye on it. It's still a developing thing. It's very, very bizarre. I want I want it to be aliens.

But right now, I'm I'm also a Jesse. It's got to be some sort of. Yeah, it's got to be like right. It feels like in like invasion from like people who are spying on you kind of. It feels bad. Yeah, it feels bad, feels sinister. Yeah, exactly. But if speaking of things that feel bad and feel sinister, are you guys ready for the second part of my one part?

Oh, that's why I'm so excited for here we go for those who don't remember. Last episode, initially, he was just he was going to do three topics. But this topic that he's kept secret was got so big, it needed to be its own episode. Yeah, basically a theme of ours right now. It's like, oh, there's just another episode of it. That's like that's like one of the things about Shilluminati, I think I like it. But yes.

Going back to last episode, in my efforts to put my weird obsession with barely verifiable internet mysteries to rest after the key lime pie and after the Kanye quest cult, there was one topic where the rabbit hole was deep enough that it needed its own episode. OK, we take a pause for a minute. Yeah, you know, I genuinely I think produce the most mean worthy content. Yeah, I got tweets. Me too. Thank you. Fantastic.

Delicious as Earth, Wind and Fires lead singer. Who thinks that this pie made him Jesus pants when he tasted it? All right. Anyway, I originally heard about the mystery. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I said that. I originally heard about this. Do you remember that pie that you had in Florida? All right. All right. All right.

All right. This this third mystery, this mystery mystery, I actually originally heard from Michael Weyland on the Unresolved podcast like a year ago today, almost like I think it was on like the 13th of last year. But since then, there's been a couple popular videos about it. Shoutouts to BarelySociable, shoutouts to a couple of other channels out there. The same ones that have been getting all these crazy ideas for topics about. But if you Google any part of this, you'll probably find links to the whole story.

So again, like I always say at the top of these things, if you're out there and you are listening to this now, don't spoil it for yourself till after the episode is done. It makes no difference to me personally, whether you do this, I can't control you, you little knowledge, hungry monster. But it's definitely more exciting if you just let the story play out. And there's plenty of time afterwards to get wild with the knowledge. Yeah. Yeah. If you know what I mean. But apparently one of the first places this mystery popped up

was actually on the our Unresolved mystery subreddit, which is my maybe my favorite subreddit, maybe, because it also is like my least favorite subreddit. But it's ironic because the mystery itself. What is your favorite paranormal subreddit that you belong to? Man, I think I'm sure you belong to a lot and I'm sure we have some of the same. I think news of the weird to be honest, the weird. It's a great it's a great one because it's such a broad topic and people usually come with something fun, even if that thing is scary,

just because of the name of the like just because the name of the sub. It's like it's like a little fun, I don't know. But this mystery also started itself on Reddit, but don't get it twisted because people who are out there like I know a lot of parents listen to this people who aren't Internet people, quote unquote. And they might not actually believe how weird certain parts of Reddit can get. But trust me when I say that for most people, the part of Reddit that I'm talking about right now is like a private part

of Reddit that you will not see unless you're looking for it. Listen, if you're if you know how to use Reddit, but don't like use it very often, if you want to burn a good 15 minutes, go hit that random red subreddit button a bunch and just see where you end up. The the specificity to me is the thing that is that it's always so weird how like you said specific each one is. Yeah. And we're going to go back all the way today to like early Reddit, which even more than today is like was like a very unregulated place.

It's much worse stuff than like what general people who are on the Internet typically search for and enables people to do things with almost no pretense. So it was almost like dark web adjacent at one point in time. Reddit is almost like you're like, what is it, like eight chans? Yeah, like just the fucked up shit that's out there. People could do stuff like sell drugs on there. People were talking about child porn on there. All the all the very truly bad stuff you can do on the Internet.

And right on the very like razor's edge of that was a spot that was called our jail bait. Oh my God. I remember that. You might have heard about this place. It wasn't exactly child porn, right? Because ostensibly what people were doing on there was going with this topic. Because we'll get there. We'll get there. Look, ostensibly, we're going to jail. We are going to jail. I would be going to jail.

I would be ravaged. I am. My butt is glorious jail. I have a very attractive back end. And I would and I'm not very strong like I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't want to say no because I'd feel like, look, he's my cellmates and we're buddies and like getting ravaged. Don't worry. All right. You know, I'm just letting you know. Jailbait is cool.

Let that happen. Jailbait is cool because people know. Listen, no, no, it was it was chill, apparently, because people listen, people, the point of the point of the subreddit was what people were saying. The point of the subreddit was was to post pictures of models and porn stars who look like they are kids, but aren't. And obviously we are making we are making clear how shady this sounds.

And actually it did get too real for people because, you know, who did a fucking thing on this was Anderson Cooper on CNN did a thing. I do remember this making so much news that they had. So read it was like, yeah, read it was like, OK, this is crazy. Fuck you guys. I don't care. This is too scary for us. Fuck it. But yeah, it was not a chill place. A lot of creepy uncles on there.

A lot of weird old guys on there that were weird. But our mystery begins here, nonetheless, with one of the moderators of this site, a user who was called Religion of Peace and who often hosted porn pics for the subreddit on his own website, which when you went to it, all the all the branding on it called it this old guy's image host. But the URL for it was Lake City Quiet Pills dot com. OK.

So religion of peace. Yeah, what? Yeah, it's called Lake City Quiet Pills dot com. We'll get back to that part in a minute. But first I want to talk about lady being too loud by her Lake City Quiet Pill. Yeah. So Religion of Peace had about two years of observable history on Reddit. OK. And according to lots of people who knew and interacted with him regularly, as well as tons of the actual posts themselves,

he kind of just fell into like, you know, the very sort of like typical sort of like negative redditor archetype, kind of like an older guy, kind of half radicalized politically grumpy, kind of a dick to people online, kind of like like an advocate for marijuana use, but like not like a hippie stoner like to talk shit on socialism all the time. Doesn't trust the news, insults people, threatens people that like get into disagreements with him. An uncomfortable amount of like military and combat knowledge.

Always talking about easy ways to hurt people, easy ways to kill people, always implying that he has some sort of weird past with this sort of thing. You know the type, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And anyway, just to start, the phrase Lake City Quiet Pills seemed really weird to people and mysterious, especially people who don't know what it means. And people on the website were always throwing it around in the in the context of like, you know, this guy could use a dose

of Lake City Quiet Pills, if you know what I'm talking about, which was a very creepy way to use the phrase, right? Oh, yeah. And while this is a weird phrase, just like no matter what you say, if you happen to be from the area around Independence, Missouri, you may recognize Lake City as the name of a government owned ammunition plant from which you can then surmise that these pills are not pills at all and are indeed instead bullets. Yes. That is indeed a type of quiet pill shaped object.

Should it enter someone's head? Yeah, it's a very dark sort of like thing. So that we spelled that one out there very well. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, no problem. You really get up here. You really like explain the whole. Yeah, you got it. I got to kill the joke. You know, I got to kill the subtlety to it all. There's no question what we're talking about now.

And that is bullets fired from guns specifically. Yes, straight into your mouth. Yeah. Yeah. But what the fuck am I talking about? What am I? What does this mean? If we don't know, well, if I'm being honest with you, if I'm being honest with you, I have no fucking clue what it means. But but and that's not just then. That's not because I don't have a lot of information

that we we haven't gotten into yet. I have a lot. And like I said, this is a big one. So, you know, whatever it is. Yeah, whatever it is, let's let's get to it. It all began in December of 2007. OK, so this is like very long time ago when religion of peace actually created their account. OK. So to give you an idea, Reddit itself only started in June of 2005. OK. So if you think about Reddit's life and like what you know about Reddit

when you started going on Reddit, this is like there is a baby Reddit. Reddit 2007 is like birthed from the ooze of the Internet. They were they had just been bought by I think like Condonast or something like that. Like they just been bought like within a year and then and they were just becoming a thing. So this was like early days. This dude was very grumpy. But he also like if you went through his post history,

he also slipped out some some some personal details from time to time. Grumpy old man. He'd say his birth year was 1930. Sometimes he'd say he was 70 years old. Sometimes he'd say he enlisted in the military when he was 14 because he was big for his age and that he was present at the Battle of Normandy. He also said he didn't see any action there and that he didn't get any action till 1947 when he was in Palestine in Jerusalem.

And I I don't know how believable that is. I can see Jesse there scratching his name, but Jesse has a master's degree. So why don't you just tell me how possible this is that somebody this this age could maybe get into World War Two? I will simply say that it's probably probable. It's like one of those myth buster things. It could happen, but I don't know that I believe that it happened.

I think it's been proven time and time again that many people who talk a great deal about their war background are, in fact, not at all vets. Most veterans don't bring that stuff home and like brag about it. Most veterans don't even want to talk about it. And coming from a family that has veterans, it's not a subject people bring up. And very few times are people going out there and being like, I did this and I did this and oh, yeah, I killed these people.

And I know how to kill like that is not something a lot of vets do. But with that said, I'm sure out there, there are one or two vets that probably do that. I've definitely met people who do talk about their war exploits, but I would agree with you that it's at least in my experience, it's a lot more common to find somebody who's kind of tight lipped about even people who are struggling with it or who are fresh from it. You know, yeah, absolutely.

Yeah. And so it's one of those things that I think many veterans believe most people wouldn't understand and they burden people with like, oh, I can barely handle this. I don't want to tell you the shit that I've seen. So I think, yeah, I would say probably this is all red herring stuff. And this is not this real person's history. But with that said, I have no clue. It literally could be out of the realm of possibility.

Yeah, yeah, again, could happen. Probably world. Yeah, got it. Regardless, he says he stayed in the military for like decades after this, only leaving when he got too old in about 1987. OK, when he returned to life and a new unspecific computer related job that he never really got into. Did he ever say what rank he was? No, no, he did not.

But he also said he was a tech writer to explain his constant presence on Reddit. When people ask him about that in other subreddits, if you like stock him, he liked to talk about weed a lot, like I already said. But apparently he also like was, you know, just generally like an active Reddit user, like a real person would be. He talked about John Bonham. He talked about he saw Led Zeppelin three times. He also talked about crazy things like the CIA assassination program.

And the and encrypted iron key flash drives, things like that. And and he had knowledge about all these things. And he'd even dispute facts about them as if he had some sort of. Inside information, like he said, he like I remember something in the podcast about he was talking about the CIA assassination program and the origin of it. And he commented on like a post about that. And he was like, they're off by literally decades on this. So it's weird.

He comes across just from this very quick description is just that guy who has to know everything and be like the center of the conversation. And so he'll just make things up so that he can quote, quote, legitimize his arguments. Yeah, exactly. But, you know, regardless of whatever his background was on Reddit, his biggest role was moderating our jail bait. And since Reddit didn't offer image hosting in 2009 at all,

he mostly just like spent his time showing people how to use his own website to post these porn pics. Usually usually they were porn. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, time out. Just take a moment. Are you said that he was in the battle of Normandy? Yeah. What born in 1930.

So basically what you're telling me. In listed at 14. When Reddit was active, when this you're saying 2009. Yeah. This is an 80. Even in 2007. I mean, I was in 2005. I but then he had he had two years of time on Reddit from 2007 to 2009.

God, you're looking at someone either pushing 80 or over 80 at this time. And you're telling me this dude was like a tech expert who there's I know you any of them. I am right there with you. Yeah, it's a little it's a it's a hard pill. I am right there with you. A quiet, hard pill. A quiet, hard pill.

That's all. And and basically like that's what he did. He showed people how to upload porn because a lot of the stuff was porn pics and if you looked at it without knowing what it was, it would just look like a treasure trove of illegal child porn. And even other subreddits started using the site and stuff. And it just became this sort of like weird repository for like awful, gross or at least seemingly gross stuff.

I can't I'm not going to like say people were criminals who weren't criminals. I don't know. I'm not trying to get involved in that. I don't want some weird guys coming after me on the Internet. But then on July 16th, 2009, at about 11 p.m. our time here in Los Angeles, he posted what at the time seemed like just another grumpy post about spammers or whatever until about 13 hours later when it was revealed to be the last post he'd ever make by a user called

two six, two dash six, like 26 with a dash in the middle, who posted a message called the end of religion of peace. He died today. OK, and this is the only post this account ever made. And I'm going to read it for you verbatim right now. I'm the person who provided religion of peace, the space for that old guy's image host. Milo died today. He was 79 years old.

He died at his desk looking at your site. Milo was a mean old fucker, mean and ornery. He hooked me up with my first gig when I got out of the army. I didn't like finding him like that. Milo don't have any living relatives and no real friends. And other than his landlady and a few people where he worked, he didn't talk to anyone about much of anything. Me, he just tolerated.

As I said, he was mean. And there's a bunch of typos and misspellings in this, but I'm trying to get through it. Yeah, I think he used that as a shield to keep the people away from him. Milo thought God was some kind of con game thought up by some lazy sons of bitches who didn't want to work every day. So he's going into the fire on Monday without a service, just like he wanted. I'm planning to dump his ashes in the woods in PA near where he was born.

Can't put them right there because there's a mall there now. I gave the girl next door his raggedy old cat and most of his books. His computer and tronic shit he tagged for the disabled vets in VVA. All the rest of the stuff is for the Salvation Army. All those years and everything he owned fits in the trunk of my car. I don't know what else to say. I'll miss him, miserable bastard. So looking at that account, it was posted the same day the account was created.

It's the only post, like full post that the account ever made. But once it started getting some attention on Reddit, because he was the image hosting guy or whatever, a couple of people started replying to it. One guy called it a hoax and two, six replied to that guy. I'm like commented on that guy and he said, you are an ass. Milo was my friend and I was taking him to dinner on Friday. He worked at home most days.

I guess I ought to call his manager. So thanks for that. I don't know why he liked this stuff. Talking about Reddit, I think. And apparently I like as much as there was hoaxes and stuff being, you know, people were crying hoax on this. A lot of people also were just like, oh, man, and that's so sad. Like, you know, that sucks.

Sorry about that. That sucks. And so he also was touched by a couple of these things. And I'm going to call Religion of Peace Milo from now on, just for you guys. OK, it's a name and not like a really long phrase. But he commented again on July 19th and said, God damn, I didn't know so many people could like him that didn't sling a gun with him. Thank you. So I'm out of here now. I don't do this stuff like you and Milo.

Take care. Keep the faith. And then finally, on the 21st of that same month, one more comment he posted that said, if you're interested, this is where Milo is now and he included a Google Maps link to an area right next to a mall that's near Round Top and Lake Heritage, Pennsylvania, which apparently that area where that mall was had once been land that was owned by Milo's family or something. I'm not sure. It's very vague about that.

But so he posted this thing and, you know, granted, it's a little weird to imagine someone posting the coordinates to the exact spot of like a secret burial site. You know, it's like a weird thing to do. It seems counterintuitive. But for the most part, the story so far seems pretty straightforward, except that people on Reddit just felt like it was a pretty odd mood to create an account just to go on and be like, this guy's dead,

especially for somebody who could be like as old as Milo. Like it'd be weird if like an 80 year old guy died and then somebody was like, oh, shit, he's dead. I better like go on Reddit and tell people. It seems weird, especially if that person himself doesn't go on Reddit. Right. So people started digging. OK, looking into these these usernames, looking around on the internet, as the internet tends to do when they are presented a mystery.

Yeah, exactly. And after looking around for a little bit, they found a user called angel dot two six written out in letters that had been commenting since 2001 on a website called Fark, which is a website I am not sure that many people who are listening to this show right now remember, but trust me, it existed. It was kind of like dig. It's kind of like Reddit, actually. I'm sure you guys remember it a little bit, at least, right? Fark. No, no, no.

Somebody out there remembers Fark, I'm sure of it. But they created an account on Fark that they used a little bit and they created that account with the email angel dot two dot six at Lake City Quiet Pills dot com back in 2001. Here we go. Yeah. So here we go. So we're talking now. We've now we've we've proven the connection of this guy with his name to this website, at least six to eight years previous.

Right. So let's just let that sink in. Obviously, this piqued everyone's curiosity and everybody began to read through this guy's posts and they started to get a picture of somebody who was like very similar to Milo, right? Posting about weapons, posting about violence, posting about the military, but also their signature read exactly this. Dispensing Lake City Quiet Pills to lousy bastards

in need of permanent rest since 1968. OK. Yeah, that's straight up weird. So once that happened, people were like, oh, shit. And they started looking for Angel to six all over the internet. And they found an account on this site having to do with the Z brush digital sculping tool. Bunch of Yahoo answer questions about DIY crafts. And then finally on dig, the actual website dig,

where things really started to get weird, where they found a post from this guy with all the same syntax and terrible grammar that you would expect from a post from two six. And I'm telling you, if you go back and you look at this online, you'll see like it's very bad grammar. It's like it's very bad grammar and it's very like recognizable, bad grammar. It's very like a style that you'll recognize.

Yeah. And except this post was written in that style under that username. But in the post itself, it was actually signed religion of peace. OK, so now people are starting to think this whole thing is like some kind of prank or some kind of hoax or something like that, because these two guys shouldn't have the same username. But you never know. You never know how close these guys were, what their relationship was to the internet with each other.

But also because of this like new interest, more people than ever were pouring over Lake City Quiet Pills dot com, the website. Now, while there really wasn't any sort of motive for why somebody would make something like this up over years, something so complicated as this, people who still believe they were on to something began to find more and more evidence. And finally, in spring of 2010, they looked at the site's source code. OK, and granted for this next part, I'm going to explain this

as if it happened in chronological order so that it makes more sense to people who are listening, but for accuracy's sake, just keep in mind that at this point for the red investigators, none of this stuff was discovered until spring of 2010. OK, but like where he died was in July of 2009 or June of 2009, whatever it was, right? So there's there's like a maybe almost almost a year gap before anybody found this stuff in the source code of the website.

OK, just just so that we're all clear on how this actually went down, but I'm going to I'm going to change that for for your understanding of this. So though I will say this, even though they were all found after the fact, it was confirmed through some sort of investigative practice that the posts, the things that we find in the source code were actually posted on the dates that they seem to have been. If you know what I'm saying, you can go back and you can look

at how the website was updated over time. Yeah, the time machine, the way back machine or whatever it is. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So they started looking in the source code to see what they could find. And there, hidden in the HTML and clear plain text was the same phrase that we've been seeing, dispensing Lake City quiet pills to lousy bastards in need of permanent rest since 1968. OK. What followed by all kinds of weird random phrases, weird code names.

And here's a quote that the podcast pulled straight from it. OK, here it goes. Shade is maintaining the calendar and access to the file dump. Angel has the job postings for EU and Asia. We aren't sending anyone to M.E. No one do not ask for listings. So obviously, Angel is probably the guy that we know about already. Two six from earlier, right?

But beyond that, nobody knows who the fuck shade is or what M.E. is. People think it maybe is the Middle East. Some people think it means me and he's just being, you know, like he says he's capitalizing. Could be the state. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it could be anything. Nobody knows for sure. And as they kept looking through the code, more and more messages like this started popping up that seem to be intended as secret communications

between people who are maybe advertising some kind of shady job or some kind of contract work. And I'm going to read you a couple more examples. Immediate need eight to 10 Chinese slash Korean, fluent Korean slash dialect slash accent details after contact, 12 week half pay sequester on refusal. Another one said two ground types, fluent Farsi Arabic French, no papers, no problems.

OK, another one, need formed group, eight to 10, single up delivery bonus, gentlemen's agreement, insurance, immediate need. And it really comes off as like private military. Yes, I'll stop. This is where everyone's mind went right away. Black off soldiers, contract assassins, some type of PMC situation. Nobody knows. But because the Internet is untrusting and alarmist,

this kind of like occluded things for a while because people were just starting to run with theories. But honestly, stuff really started to add up more and more as more and more messages were discovered as they looked through the code. Again, in 2010, but this one was dated July 17th, 2009, which is the same day that two six reported the death of religion of peace on Reddit. OK, and with a lot of the same grammar, you know, we got another thing throughout this is in the source code of a website.

OK, it's not even public. OK. And if you if you're on Firefox, I think you can do this on any browser. You can go look if you want to know how to view the source, you can do it in your browser. You can go look and you can view the source and you can do this yourself just to understand what I'm talking about. It's like the HTML coding of the website where I think you can just press. Isn't it just like if you go to Chrome or whatever, just press the tilde button?

It depends on your browser. Yeah, you can definitely do it. I've accidentally done it countless times. Yeah. So here's the post from the same day that two six posted the Reddit post. OK. I'm sorry to tell you that old Milo died yesterday. He went quiet and calm, not like we all figured. I gave that fat man she cat of his to the little girl next. No services or nothing, you know, Milo.

I'm taking his ashes back to where his farm was close to it anyway. There's a mall where his place was. So hoist a few for the old man. Remember what he said, keep with the man who's got your back. OK, so that was in July. Then nothing. And then in September on September 30th, about a month and a half later, over two months later. Actually, it's in September, not August.

He posted another thing that said, for those who have asked, I bricked Milo's iron key the same day, all as well. And then two more months pass. So now we're in November and there's an even shadier post. OK, so here it goes. Milo's wheel cleared probate. Surprise. Milo was loaded. Email shade, if we sent you out in 2005 to 2009.

Shade will have checks cut for you. Amount is by how many times, not by pay total. Small share is three to four K. OK. Now, I'm not exactly sure what amount is by how many times, not by pay total means. But it sure seems like someone is distributing the wealth from Milo's will to a group of people who used to meet together and do something on this site, right? Sounds like it. That's kind of what it sounds like.

Yeah, like there's a will that was cleared. And now finally, the money from this will is being separated out to separate people. And if that wasn't weird enough, two more months passed. Now we're in January and we got another notice posted on the site that says, Happy New Year, everyone. We're having a birthday party for the old man on the 19th. Party starts at 1500 at the usual. Send your RSVP to shade.

FYI, we're booking a room for three days for anyone coming from out of area and overnight for locals. Come a hoist one for Dutch Milo. OK. So that's that's a that's an invitation on the on the site. Sounds like, you know, it's not too crazy. It's nothing illegal about planning a birthday or like a birthday party for a dead guy, I guess. Yeah. Other than that, it seems pretty weird for a lonely old man on the internet

to have a secret group of HTML savvy military professionals planning a three day memorial party six months. It comes across almost movie like in that I picture the old man was like the head of the small group of mercs that were just sent out on job and they made a bunch of money and just stashed a bunch of it. And when they all died and they get their sequel movie, they get all his money so they can go. Yeah, it's like John Wick or something. Yeah, it's fucking yeah, it's like it's like a budget John Wick.

Yeah, but we have to stop for a second now because for this story to continue, I have to pause and give you some of the background that unresolved dug up about Hamas logistics and weapons officer Mahmood. All Mahmoud. OK. OK. He was born and raised in the Gaza Strip and from the 70s and into the 80s. He slowly got involved on almost the ground floor with Hamas, which if you don't know, is a it's an organization that's like paramilitary that wants a Palestinian state in the Middle East

and to restore Israeli occupied areas to the Palestinian people under like the law of like the Quran, the son of Mahmoud, etc. That is definitely an oversimplification of what Hamas is. But just for people who are trying to follow along, that's a basic understanding what Hamas is after being briefly imprisoned. This guy, you know, came out and he was like ready to get into this. And Hamas started, I think, in like eighty seven and he jumped right in and he was right in it.

And over the next 25 years, he becomes one of Israel's most wanted after claiming responsibility for killing Israeli soldiers. He spent some time in an Egyptian prison, you know, during this time. And by the time of Lake City quiet pills, you know, and religion of peace and all that going down, he was the chief of logistics and weapons procurement for the organization's military wing. OK, so this is a big this is a bad dude. It's like a it's like a top brass guy at Hamas.

This is like a guy who is no nonsense. And he was building a relationship between Hamas and the Iran Revolutionary Guards. OK, so this is like this guy, this guy is like if you don't like Hamas, this guy is a guy you don't like. You know what I mean? Got and obviously this painted a big huge target on this guy's back. OK, and as a result, Jesse's brain does look like it melted. Well, the entire the entire time that we've been doing this. Yeah, I'm really curious where this is going, because the entire time

we've been doing this, the the concept of a religion of peace, right, especially for the website. Yeah, many times, Islam is a religion of peace. And then if you're like anti Islam, you it's sort of a mocking phrase that you're like, oh, yeah, really. And so I was curious what angle this guy was coming at. Like, oh, he probably was very much like, I mean, with selecting his username. Yeah, was he was the idea that he was mocking Islam or was.

And here's the thing is now we're getting into it more. I'm like, oh, what is about to happen here? Yeah, I'm just waiting for the bomb. I've been sitting here waiting for like this is a pretty wild one. This is a pretty wild one, right? The same as key lime pie. The picture of this old man keeps just changing and morphing. The more you learn, you're like, wait, maybe he's not.

Maybe he's real. Maybe. Oh, wait. Yeah. So so again, Mahmood al-Mabhu. OK, this guy. And I'm probably butchering his name. I'm so sorry to anybody who actually knows how to pronounce it. But like I said, he has a big, huge target on his back from a lot of different angles coming at him.

And he actually became the target of several attempts on his life. He survived a car bomb, just like he did ask, like survived a car bomb and a very high profile poisoning attempt in November of 2009 that was actually covered in major media outlets after the fact, like as far as like wired and GQ. So this is like we're talking big news. You know what I mean? Yeah. And this guy didn't even know at the time that this happened,

that he was poisoned. He just got like sick. Nobody knew why. And then later they realized, oh, shit, that guy got poisoned. OK, but but because he didn't know at the time about the second attempt on his life, he still hadn't upped his security protocols. OK, and as a result, his computer was breached in January of 2010.

And it became known that he was planning a trip to Dubai, which for 24 hours he had to do without any bodyguards surrounding him. So there was a 24 hour window where he was completely alone in Dubai in a hotel room, OK, without any protection. And I'm not going to get into mega details here because it's a lot and there's a lot on this. If you want to go look this up, you can always go check out the unresolved episode,

which goes very deep into what happened, beat by beat. That that's like I said, I think that episode aired like January 15th of last year, something like that. But just to tell the art really quick, I think about 18 to 28 people followed him into Dubai under fake passports, fake identities, coordinated, tracked him through the city, checked into every hotel in the area where he was headed

or might possibly end up checked in to every single one. Even going so far as in the middle of the up, popping into a room for a second, popping out in a different outfit. You can see surveillance footage of all of this, by the way. It's all this part is not fake. This is all real shit that happened. Waited for him to step out of his room. He went down to somewhere for a second.

They hacked the lock on his room. They jumped inside his room and just jumped on him once he came back. His body was discovered the next morning dead signs of a natural death before an extended autopsy realized that he'd been hit with a paralyzing agent to keep him from fighting back, even though he was wide awake. They electrocuted him repeatedly and then suffocated him with a pillow. OK. And once the jig was up, they found these assassins had been doing dry runs of this up for months.

And weirdly, had been calling a contact in Austria, who is likely coordinating the whole up. OK. Israel was immediately implicated in the death due to Al Mabou's connection to Hamas, obviously, and a weird money trail, actually, which led to, you know, what Payoneer is. I do not. It's like a prepaid credit card company and the CEO of that company, even though I think the company is in America,

the CEO of that company has ties to Israeli intelligence. And these cards, a lot of the people use them. A lot of the a lot of the operator operatives in this op use Payoneer cards to pay for things as they went through Dubai. By February, the Dubai police were actually accusing Mossad of this of this assassination. And if you don't know, Mossad is like the intelligence organization for Israel. They were actually accusing them of committing an assassination.

But Israel themselves actually played dumb about the whole thing. And in unresolved, the podcast that I got this from, they actually pointed out that the foreign minister of Israel responded to this by saying that the press had been watching too many James Bond movies and that they needed to chill out, even though nobody from Israel ever outright denied doing this. OK. So far, 18 people have been identified. We have pictures of 11 of them that Interpol put out, literally,

like you can see them now. If you want to go look, you there are photos of these people's faces. But because of the fake names, no one knows for sure who did this, even today, in 2020. And while many countries have spoken out against the act, the US doesn't cooperate with United Arab Emirates. So they won't even hand over the the Payoneer details. So you can't trace the funding of the op directly.

They know, you know, Payoneer is a suspicious company for them to be using, but nobody knows exactly who paid for this or how. A few arrests were made over the years. Nothing has stuck. Nobody can track down any of the people who are arrested. There's no evidence of them serving any sort of real punishment or justice for the murder, even though, like, as far as assassinations go, like real ones that have happened.

This is one of the big ones in modern times, I would say, like there was a really big one like the other day. And since then, I would say this was one of the biggest ones. Damn. And now, again, I'm going to read you the post from Lake City Quiet Pills from January of 2010. OK. Happy New Year, everyone. We're having a birthday party for the old man on the 19th.

Party starts at 1500 at the usual. Send your RSVP to shade. FYI, we're booking a room for three days for anyone coming out of the area and overnight for locals. Come hoist one for Dutch Milo. Now, you probably already noticed that the 19th date is the same date as the assassination. Yeah. Also, the 1500 hours is roughly accurate.

And if that's not getting your wheels turning enough, Jesse Cox, here's the next message that was posted on January 18th, one day before the killing. OK. And the context of this message is like when you say yes to a party on Facebook and the day before the party, like the host of the party is like, all right, it's tomorrow. Get ready. We are fucking shit. But here's the message. OK.

I'm going to read it verbatim. We got 38 rooms in the Marriott on 46. Shade has the key cards for locals. Pick up at the party. Give your travel name to the desk, and that's it. No ID needed since we're covering the bill. Keep the room service under 500. OK. The phones there are not secure.

The bus from the hotel leaves at 1330. Car service vouchers for return trip when you're ready to crash. Don't do I. OK. Now, does that to you sound like the type of instructions that you would give to people for an actual party? Or does it sound like maybe something else is going on there? It sounds like the part. Keep in mind, keep in mind before we get into that, before we answer that question,

this is in the source code of a maybe child fucking, you know, it's all it's all. You're a big old red flag. However, if you want to play devil's advocate, it sounds more like this is going to be like the party is more like going out and partying. And then they're talking more talking about where you're going to meet when you guys are going to go out and how much, you know, is covered. It doesn't sound necessary. It doesn't sound right.

It sounds a little off, but it's it's there's enough there. You could say, OK, maybe give you a travel name to the desk. No ID needed. It's wild stuff. Nevertheless, paid for so that you don't have to worry about getting. Nevertheless, yeah, nothing went down for a few weeks. But then on February 2nd, another post appeared that was titled Party Bills. OK, this one says here is the final for the party hotel rooms. Forty eight thousand three hundred and forty one limo six thousand and eighty

bus five hundred and sixty nine bar bill. Eighteen thousand eight hundred and ninety food. Eight thousand and thirty dancers. Eight thousand three hundred miscellaneous tips, miscellaneous tips. Eight hundred and fifty dollars miscellaneous expenses. Two thousand eight hundred forty med supplies. One hundred and eighty fat Tommy and Stu are OK. Total ninety four thousand and eighty.

You all did Dutch Milo proud. Thanks. So what you're telling me is that this guy had 40 for this old man who said weird shit on Reddit like a like an old angry non trust in the media guy who lived with a cat and his possessions fit in the trunk of a car. Had 40 friends who coordinated from all over the world to have a party that cost one hundred thousand dollars. Yes, and they're all old and they're all old people. It's a little fucking weird.

Yeah. Anyway, more weird quote unquote job listings keep showing up until spring of twenty twenty when finally, like I said earlier, this is we've caught up with ourselves now. Twenty twenty. I mean, twenty ten. Twenty ten. OK. OK. OK. I'm saying like, wait a minute. Twenty ten, baby. Twenty ten. There is a twist. Up for me.

Spring to spring twenty ten. We're caught up to ourselves when finally all these posts were found simultaneously. So the timeline was established pretty quickly. All this was found simultaneously. That's like hitting a gold vein in a gold mine, man. That's huge. Can you imagine? She's like on this and then finding that almost immediately Lake City Quiet Pills updated.

Everything was suddenly encrypted and then eventually taken down. And since then, there's been tons of speculation. The website itself went offline in like twenty fourteen. But this has been an active topic on the Internet ever since. And here are the like major conclusions and theories that are floating around right out there right now about this. These are these are the these are the big things that people are saying based on things that I've read and seen.

Some people think it's some kind of failed viral marketing campaign or ARG, which is like true of every Internet related mystery. I think it'd be an extremely poor taste to make a game based on this, especially like months after the assassination happened, especially if like you're like an ARG creator who's trying to like start your career here. I just can't see this being the topic of a game that you would choose to start your career because it's so like encouraging people to do illegal things and stuff like that.

You know what I mean? Yeah, it's super weird. You wouldn't want to have this be the thing cast over your original idea. Yeah. I don't know. It doesn't track to me. There are also certain things like threads out there that peg Lake City Quiet Pills as a PMC that operates out of South Africa. OK. Interesting. OK. To get into this takes us way off the beaten path of this story at large. I've read a bunch about this.

There's some stuff out there that corroborates this. There's a lot of stuff that doesn't. I don't really agree with it. It's out there if you want to look for it, but I'm not going to get too deep into that because I don't agree with it. But yeah, PMC is out there. Some people believe they've identified shade by some posts on Reddit and stuff as a man named Oscar.

Who died maybe in 2014 or 2015, either from cancer or by like a suicide that was based on the fact that he was dying of cancer. But this is all also shaky in circumstance. So nobody can really agree on the specifics of that one. But that's another portion of this is that like maybe they're all old guys who were dying. Nobody knows. Speaking of specifics, though, you may have already noticed that a lot of the details of religion of

pieces life don't really add up. You can't be 70 in 2009 if you were born in 1930. And after submitting his writing to a analysis website called You Classify, his age based on his grammar and like word choice puts him closer to I think the range was like 36 to 50, something like that. So make more sense. Yeah. So that's so that's so that's another thing. Nobody knows why somebody would lie about their age in this way,

other than that, it makes it harder to identify them. And it creates a picture in your mind of somebody totally different than the real person completely throws the muddies the water so bad. But that would make sense if you really didn't want somebody to find out who you are. So this is something where you are trying to make it your big break. You might not lie about it. You know, I mean, you might not occlude your identity in that way, because it's kind of weird to do that.

But that's just one theory. Also, another theory with regard to the names Milo and two six, the podcast themselves unresolved. The podcast where I found this offers their own speculation based on some UK military terminology. I'm just going to read a snippet from the actual podcast real quick says, during my research, I discovered a white paper titled Intelligence and Peace Support Operations, Some Practical Concepts,

which I'll be linking on the podcast website. You can read it if you like, but a passage from this white paper reads, the military intelligence liaison officer concept has existed for a long time in the United Kingdom, the aim is to have a group of trained intelligence officers available with a broad background who could be quickly deployed to any potential mission area to assist in the planning and preparation of any potential peacekeeping operation prior to the deployment. They can also be assigned as temporary reinforcements

in case particular intelligence requirements have arisen. So military intelligence liaison officer. M I L O perhaps. And now if we turn our attention to the other known figure in this story, you two six, also known as Angel two six. Many have tried to find some hidden meaning in this name, believing that the name hints at some kind of coordinates or hidden location. However, what if the truth is just in the title?

Two six heave is an expression popular in British military culture, so much so that it has its own Wikipedia page and there's an excerpt from that page. In Britain, it has a broader meaning and is often used in any situation where a coordinated pulling effort is required, often where maritime people are involved, but almost as frequently where civilians are working together. You know, as it's almost like heave ho, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

And so. Those things point to it being a UK based op or a UK based thing. But again, circumstantial, though worth mentioning because I think it is odd that M I L O is there, especially based on what the job is that we all are kind of like imagining that this person is doing. But that is where I'm pretty much going to leave it. As far as evidence, but before we wrap up, I just want to do my due diligence.

I want to read one last thing that I found when I was looking for more recent developments in this case. It's from the Lake City Quiet Pills subreddit, a specific subreddit just for. Of course, of course, it's basically dead. There's still some like really wacky stuff going on in there, like once a month or so, somebody post something like pretty out there. But this post is from 2017. It's from a dummy account that was used only to post this one message.

And it's called Retirement Plan LCQP. That's the name of the user in 2017 sometime. Goes like this. It's time to stop. These people are very rich, but that money does not come from work work. Shade and Milo were software engineers at a later stage of their life due to injury, sustained in combat, maybe not shade, but he still went that route as well. Their jobs were organizing heists and smuggling ops.

Simple as that. Their jobs were this is why recruitment was largely language based. Merck work does pay well, but not well enough to net you millions for operations when your team is only a few men large. That money does not come out of thin air and let you buy heavy weaponry. Some of these posters and members have no background in Merck work. They do, however, have work in public and private transportation. Milo is definitely real and a later part of his life started relieving his duties

and gave it to others who'd continue his work. His hobbies were compsci, web hosting, programming, 3D modeling, jacking off and organizing jobs as he spent a third part of his life on the web. His organization went under after shade suicide. He had cancer anyways, and I think the new one has been operating for three years. I will respect their privacy and hopefully this gives people closure. The initial belief that it's a PMC station in Africa is wrong. Milo had right wing leanings and recruited like minded people.

Look up what Rhodesia actually means to people nowadays and you'll understand. South Africa is still deemed their home due to the real estate they kept buying up, but they've operated across the world. Also easy to find desperate like minded people out there. A message to the LCQP. I cleared your tracks. Have a good one. Huh.

Okay, let me ask the most important question. Sure. Out of all of this. Yeah. Why would any organization, secret or other. Leave the tracks that lead back to all of this by having one of their top guys be like posting dirty ass photos on the internet to the point where he's the known dirty ass photo guy.

It's to me, I think that's a good cover. Like I feel like I feel like making this sort of hard to understand, like making it sort of like nonsensical a little bit. It's sort of like a clue. But if he didn't, if he had never, if Milo, this Milo character had never gotten involved with being the guy who's like, come to me for all your notice, then no one would have gone down this route. Let alone the power of being horny, dude.

I mean, let alone have this other guy, Angel to six. There's something about this that as much as I want to believe. Oh my God. Yes, there's something crazy going on here. It also feels like young dudes, like 20 some things being pieces of shit. It could be. I mean, anything on the internet could be that, you know what I mean? But to me, the thing that's so weird about this is how specific and how weird

the things are and how it doesn't. It doesn't really read to me as as sinister in that way, like the jobs. I don't know whether or not it's just a coincidence that those days and times line up for that one high profile hotel assassination. But the fact that that was there before the actual event happened, the fact that that was actually on that website, like that's the cool. I guess like that's the quote unquote cool part is like that. It's like everything else can kind of be washed away with a typical excuse.

But those lining up so specifically with that assassination is just it's an interesting kernel. It's an interesting thing, not saying it proves anything. And but it's fun to think about. Things that go on for a decade or more are always very convincing to me, especially on the internet, because even if you're like a dumb ass like kid who's like making something up and you're 20 years old and you're just being a fuckhead by the time you're 30, like you shouldn't be doing that anymore.

You know, the time you're 35, hopefully, like you've moved on to at least another fucking troll, you know what I mean? Like at least another thing that you're doing. Well, that's my initial assumption based on what you were saying was, oh, this guy, Milo was a young dude who was posting dirty ass pics. And then he was like, I'm done because he posted that thing about spam and whatever. And so he made up to six to go on there and be like, oh, he died. Yes, that was my initial thought, too.

Yeah. And then people went to the website and were like, oh, two six has actually been Milo the entire time. And that's where I thought this was going to go. I had no clue we're going to end up in like assassination. Military. Yeah. Robbery.

I know, right. But and so like that level to it, to me, it's either you're absolutely right. And that is there's some crazy going on, or it was people discovering that they had another thing they could sink their teeth into. So instead of it being like, oh, yeah, dirty porn. Well, I can't do the dirty porn anymore. So now we're going to mess with the people that are obsessed with this story that isn't real.

I don't know who knows, man, it's crazy. So the other thing that's crazy is that there is a character out there named Edward Jordan, and I don't know what the deal is with this. I didn't I didn't get too deep into this because it seems crazy. But there is a person out there. If you look up his Amazon, there's a guy and he like has these weird books and and stuff, and people are connecting him to both Lake City Quiet Pills and Captain Kuchy's Keyline Pie.

What is it, Edward? What? Ed, it's like Edward Jordan. It's like a French spelling of it. I'll show you J-O-R-D-A-A-N. I'll put it in the chat for you like that. Yeah, Edward Jordan. OK, OK, thank you. E for people who are listening and E-D-O-U-A-R-D J-O-U-R-D-A-N.

Yeah, and here's the it's our obituaries and it's a post that is. I don't know how I feel about this, but here's how it goes. Sergeant Chef might mean to say chief, I'm not sure. Edward Jordan, me as a Fred of Edward Jordan. This is from two years ago in the our obituary subreddit who used to be ranked as Master Sergeant in French Army. Armée de Terre Française. I do want to honor his memory.

He served in Afghanistan and Africa, born in 1984, dead in 2016, left the army after several tours in 2008, since he had been dispensing Lake City quiet pills to lousy bastards in need of permanent rest. He loved hotel parties. He was an only child, odd with no friends, but DM. Edward now meets the religion of peace. And then there is a and then there is a coordinates.

There that leads to some type of location, which is in. I believe it's in Pennsylvania. Near a motel off the seventy three in in like like outside of Philly. And that might be, you know, the area where the the burial from the original post took place. But literally like there's books about him. There's like there's like there's like books attributed to this person

on Amazon. And this is such a deep hole. It's just when you when you start to look on the Internet, it starts to feel weird what's true and what's not true. And nobody where create like create. Someone's like bizarre creativity ended up like melding either accidentally or on purpose with like factual history. Yeah. And I think a lot of the stuff and I think a lot of the stuff is also just people crying out for attention.

But at the core of this, there has to be there has to be something there because it's just so complicated. It's so very, very rich. It doesn't feel written. It doesn't feel. If you go down this rabbit hole, let me tell you, my goodness. So apparently this obituary, right? There's this guy did some more research.

And I guess that he came across a LinkedIn profile for an Edward Jordan. And it was updated in 2018, saying that he was a database administrator. Right. Yeah. And he's like, of course, that contradicts thing posted in 2016, saying that he died. But then he found this guy's Instagram account, which says, leave me alone. And he's like, oh, that's it's consistent with the post that was like he has no friends. And then he's like going down this list and he starts listing off more things and other people jump in with like, yo, so we've been looking at this too.

Who this Jordan guy is. Apparently he's behind an internet hoax from 2012 called Bitterroot footage. And he used some of that for a novel he released in 2017. Bitterroot, the Bitterroot footage. Yeah, apparently there's threads on it about Bitterroot footage. Yeah, I saw that. I don't know what it is. It's it's it was an it was, you know, it's got an hoax thing.

Yeah, but it was used to promote a book eventually. Huh. That's what. And so now I'm like, did we just get super mega con to all of us? I don't think this is the next book. Maybe it just seems like a little bit much, right? It seems it seems a lot easier that he just saw this and then like jumped on the bandwagon. You know what I mean? I mean, yes, I truly don't.

There's no answer here. It's just fascinating that the more you dig, the more you find like, here's another messed up thing that's related to this. Yeah, yeah, that's it's weird. That's it is branches. Yeah, which is why I want to get away from the internet and return to my normal Batman, the anime series level. You are totally right, by the way, that

he posted a thing on our slash Captain Disillusion. Yeah. Comments, Hoaxy. I was the the author of Bitterroot footage. And he goes on there and it's this guy and he confesses like, hey, I made this Bitterroot footage. It was all hoax, that kind of thing. And Captain Disillusion is like a famous YouTuber. And this guy's saying, hey,

I did Keyline Pie, the LCQP, all that stuff. That's me is what he's saying. Interesting. Huh? Yeah, I just like, I don't I don't know. I don't understand how that could all be one person. I mean, if it's if he's like making money off of it, is he? It doesn't seem like he is the books and stuff, or it's just a weird hobby that he has. Yeah, but one person to do all of that, as they that is a lot of work

over the course of many years. That's that's bizarre. Yeah, I mean, I maybe buy that he did the Bitterroot footage, but like he's also just like, oh, by the way, I did all of the things that you guys like. Yeah, that that I mean, like anybody could just on the just throw that line out there. Right. Like so that's hard. That's who knows, dude, who fucking knows?

And of course, I can see why you had to fracture this off and do its own episode. But I feel like you do a whole nother part on like all the branches that this thing. I could just do a whole nother episode, just on like bad bullshit theories, like also surrounding. And the deeper you go, the more like believable they all seem. So it's just a fucking crazy mess. You know what? All this does is tell me that on the Internet, you can try to pretend you're someone different. But if people care enough, they will find you out.

Yeah, this is there's so this Edward guy. He was people were like, oh, he's been posting under an account called 13 zeitgeist. And they're like, well, how do you know that? And they're like, oh, well, we did some searches and we discovered that 13 times. Like guys is his TripAdvisor account. He's crazy. Damn, dude. That's wild.

Yeah. Yeah. Like that's that's the thing in the Internet. You can't hide. Wow. That's so nuts. Well, Alex, thank you for taking us on that. That was a wild ride.

I was not prepared for just constant like blown minds like, wait, no, that's not at all where I thought this was going over and over and over. Again, I hope that somebody out there, you know, this was a totally new mystery to them and that they hadn't heard it before and now they can go on. I've never heard this. This was wild. Yeah, me either. This is awesome.

I hope they can go online and spend some time looking for some dumb bullshit about this guy and who the fuck anybody is. And I hope you can sever this part from your life now and breathe. I know it consumed like months of you for a while there. Just doing this stuff. Yeah. You know, I'm going to come up for air, do something sensible now, like look into the JFK assassinations.

Right. I sent you, by the way, which one about the one on a Twitter DM to weeks ago, the one on JFK and the JFK and the UFO disclosure. Dude, it's super good. It's super good. I had a feeling that you were going to tend to forget if you I'm just saying if you ever like, man, if you want me to help you in one aspect of it, that I'll help you there. I got you.

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We've also got a merch up, up and live over on the Yeti store. You can go get that. I don't know if we have any more posters left, but if there are there, feel free to grab them while they're still. I had to buy a poster. So I'm letting you know I own one now suckers hang that up. I'm going to hang it signed by two great people and I'll let you guess which one is not great.

John Wick, John Wick. We'll be back soon with another episode. If you guys want to ever reach out to us or throw some stories our way to email or or the subreddit works, there's still like countless stories going over or going up over on that subreddit to check it out are slash Illuminati pod. That's a great little community. We've got going over there. You want to tweet us to Illuminati pod for the show, Mathis Games for myself, Fossiana

A for Alex and Jesse Cox for Jesse. I don't think I think that's everything. I don't think I missed anything. So with that, we'll sign off and we'll see you in the next one. Peace out, buddy. Are you stuck in the city life routine? It's time to get outdoors and enjoy the fresh air. You're missing out on bold journeys and brave adventures that are just waiting for you.

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