Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 40 - Men in Black Part 1 - C-Day

Episode Date: February 3, 2020

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Thank you so much for joining us on this episode of The Chiluminati Podcast. This is in a week I think or a week and a half. It's our two year anniversary. It's our second birthday. Wow. We're almost two years old. Four hundred episodes. Can you believe that?

Four hundred episodes. That is crazy. It's so many. Right. But only people who are part of the deep state of Luminati get the other hundred and sixty episodes. Yeah. We're so sorry.

Exactly. Well of course this is how it works. The other hundred and sixty. And it's a half the price. Yeah. Are we talking? Are we talking? Yeah.

There's a whole other two. There's a whole other two hundred. But that's just that's just for the spectral plane. That's for tall whites only. Only. Yeah. There's like multiple tears. There's like a picture on there.

Did you guys see. I know you saw Jesse. Did you see Alex the art the art depictions of Nordic's. Oh I saw them. Oh yeah. I saw them. They look like classic people. I had to say that I was eighteen.

Exactly. They're like seven foot tall. Yeah. I just say yes I am eighteen. Please proceed. That's what I said. Please proceed. Yeah.

Oh man. Well I'm glad you're in a UFO mindset gentlemen because for a long while people have been asking. No no no no no. We're getting all of us over it's just like let's talk about white people in spaceship. Jesse this one. Jesse this one's real. Weirdly yes but in a different context.

Jesse this one's real. Whatever you're about to say it's not real. Just. Just imagine. Okay this one. Let's see. Let's find out. Let me just say if you're of the age and you're in a place where it is legal and you have

you know this might be one of those episodes where you might enjoy a lot. Get a pet ferret. Is that what you're going to say? Some substances to open your mind a little. You know what I'm saying. You're going to say get a pet ferret. You're going to say get a pet ferret. Get a pet ferret.

Yeah. If you're in one of the states where it's legal. Get a mongoose. Need him. Bye Jesse. Jesse's going to get his ferret I assume. I hope he didn't just leave the show. We have well we have a webcam Jesse's Jesse's webcam set up.

He looks like he's like in like MPR studios in Washington. Yeah he really does. Well if it's just you and me the problem is just you and me we're just going to we're going to go down the rabbit hole too deeply and we're never going to come out. I'm ready dude. I'm half rabbit. You know what I'm saying. Like I'm part rabbit.

That's true. The amount of borrows you dug on the internet the past few months have been wild and I can't imagine where you are in your current project. I dude I have watched so many things. Okay. There's like a genre. There's like a production level. Like you know how people used to say like okay there's like AAA and there's like indie

filmmaking and like there's like either 150 million dollars for your movie or there's like 10 million dollars for the internet or if you're paranoid you're like paranormal activity is like 50 grand internet has messed that up. Oh he's he returns. He's returned. He's returned. Welcome back. I'm going to eat Lindy's lemon ice.

Yeah. homemade lemon ice. I'm going to sit here. I'm not going to say a damn word. No I need you to say a damn word because it's going to be important. I need your no I need the back and forth just sit here and let you talk. You're going to say clearly I'm not high enough for this. I'm not stoned at all.

I need to host this thing. You're going to say something like oh my gosh really tell me more. That's what you're going to say. It's fine. It's fine. This lemon ice is only a hundred calories and it's delicious. Are we getting a kickback for this. Is this like right.

I wish I were. Are you like soft. It's just like a backdoor brand deal. Listen. I'm going to send me more. It'd be great. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm down. I'm going to send it up at your local pavilions. What are the bonds. What are we talking about. All right. It's been a while. It's been a while. So let's just I'm going to jump in.

I've been working on this thing for like a week now. The script is done. We're jumping in. I'm so excited. Creatures. Boys. Are you ready to return to the world of not science fiction. Not secret government human sacrifice groups who may or may not be participating in secret

orgies in room three two three or whatever it was real by the way. This start is not real. Not jail bait assassins that go around the world murdering important political figures that was the world of fact in truth which are basically the same thing actually now that I can act in truth. Yeah. It's kind of the same thing. That's a big question.

That's it. That's actually the whole episode. As I said I hope you came prepared with your Urbils and or others. You might need it. See in my eternal mission to continue covering what I consider the basics of aliens which you know the more I work on it and the more I look at it seems to be a never ending tunnel and it just won't ever end. There's no such thing as just the basics.

Today we're going to dive back into such a world. Just as grays are similarly attached as a common thread in most abduction scenarios saucer shaped ships being the most common among UFO sightings. So too is there a common thread that follows such events most commonly following UFO events particularly but other events with encounters with extraterrestrials in the rare occasion during abductions. This is again most of the time for UFOs. It's usually an encounter with another person or creature depending on who you ask do we

know what I'm talking about yet boys. I'm like nope. This could be any this could be any interaction at this point like I mean I'm I'm I'm ready for anything. Okay. This person and or creature. Go ahead. Do you have a guess?

Were you on the verge of a guess? I apologize. I feel like I cut you off. No I'm not. You've said so far I'm like this could literally be any. Oh man black. They always show up to warn them to keep their mouth shut about everything they saw or interacted with.

And if they don't, it might lead to unfortunate potentially lethal consequences. We are of course talking about nothing other than the men in black. Yeah. The men in black. The good guys dressed in black and they're eight feet tall and they're bald and they got red lips. What? We are talking about the men in black today.

What was originally also just going to be a one off is now a multi parter because there's a lot here that we have to dig into if we're going to make sense of what exactly the men in black are. Can I make one other than of course make another guess. Is it the alien that from the beginning of the movie is like has one voice but inexplicably in the music video for the song men in black goes you are pulling on a memory I no longer have somebody's going to that's going to land super good for me because I've always thought that was weird.

The music video came out before the movie. Initial assumption. I was going to be like a woman. Yeah. I was right there with you. Thank you. One mystery solved already. One men in black related was resolved already.

We are tearing this apart. We're only seven minutes in and we've already solved the wild. An unprecedented progress is being made right now. This progress brought to you by ladies homemade Italian ice. Sponsor us. It's delicious. So other than being a hit 1997 film starring Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones as agent JNK which was inspired by the comic from 1990 which was inspired by true supposedly stories

of men in black encounters. Just exactly what the men in black actually are is still up for debate but there's a few things that tend to be common that run through all of the encounters as well as a few theories that sit at the top as the more prominent or accepted theories as to what they are. But first what are the men in black and when did these sightings start showing up. Well the men in black are most commonly thought to be people that either work for the government or some other secret organization directly related to the UFO and alien phenomena around the world.

A typical MIB story goes a little something like the following. A man out on a patrol boat with his friend see a group of six UFOs zip across the sky. One of them ends up stopping just to dump something that looks like a hot liquid down to the water and spilling onto his boat killing his dog and injuring him. Is this a real story? The day is following. Wait, wait. We'll get to it.

We'll get to this. We'll get to this. We'll get to this. No, no, no. You said you were going to listen. Now you're going to be a good boy and you're going to listen. You're telling me these aliens pulled up alongside this boat. It's a hot shit.

Listen, we're starting. We are starting. This guy's dog with the hot liquid. You can think of it like this. We're starting with the 1997 movie and peeling back the layers to find where the root cause of all of this is. You were like, these things kind of go like this. And then I'm like, I was with you.

You were like, there's people. There's seeing aliens. And then I'm like, then you're like, and then the alien had a, did a big space diarrhea on the boat, which was so hot that it killed a dog. And I'm like, what? I've never heard that detail before. I must have missed that in all the MIB stories. So you can see why I was just a little confused.

The aliens are zipping over the fucking ocean. They're like, there's one. There's one. Stop, stop, stop. I really got him. Got him. Got him. Got him.

Got him. Go, go, go, go, go. Pull over. Glorkron. Glorkron. Pull the fuck over. I don't give a shit what's down there. They took their hot liquid.

They got a whole wristboat and killed his dog. Wait, wait, wait, wait. That is not. It was basically like a white hot molten ass liquid that was dumped from the ship. Don't say it's a white hot molten liquid. Don't do that. You don't know. When you try to impregnate, maybe at first you don't know the scale.

You know what I mean? Maybe you don't know what the, where the reproductive organs are. They just drowned this poor dog in a white hot com. Okay. Died instantly. Real quick, before we move on, just answer my question. Is this. Have you ever drowned a dog?

Is this actually typical of many situations or are we talking about one specific account? Okay. The following, the following men in black encounter is what's typical of the men in black encounter. The setup is important for the next. I was just like, oh my God. All right. I'm with you. I'm here.

I was here. I was like, wow, they really have an MO. The days. So the days following the event, the man begins to get phone calls. On the other end of that phone call could be silence, robotic sounding garbles, or high-pitched words or screeching. Usually followed by then silence and then nothing. That's the moth man making political phone calls.

Hello. Oh my God. Just puts it down. Well, funnily enough, the moth man's going to come into this. I can't wait to meet him. No, no, no. Just hang tight. Temporarily?

He's not my. He's like one of them. He's one of them. One day, the black came to the door and then he took off his mask and it was the moth man. Well, actually, there are theories out there that the moth man might be related in some fashion to the suspected race that maybe the men in black are. But that's one of the lower accepted theories out there and that one that's given a lot of credence. In the Indrid Cold side, maybe like that kind of weird.

Yeah, even maybe even a little lower than the Indrid Cold, like even less than it wouldn't. I don't put any stock. Well, I'm sure you're about to say this, but people always described Indrid Cold as kind of like sickly skin like with like red lips. Oh, you mean like physically. That's yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Indrid Cold is a that's why yeah, that's where kind of like the root of the theory even comes from. So because Lindrid Cold is already so loosely tied to the moth man in the first place that I don't know if I would buy that. But it always seems like just another UFO encounter to me.

Yeah. That's exactly what it sounds like. Yeah. Which again, we could I mean the moth people could just be an alien species who FN knows. Anyway, beyond the the phone calls, you would then also sometimes smell kind of like a rotten smell, almost a smell of sulfur. And then a few days later, a man or multiple men in dark suits would come knocking on your door.

Like in your house. They usually sulfur. Yeah. They show up at your house. You're going to talk about that too. But yeah, you can not not all encounters, but some encounters have have that running through us. It's on you.

Exactly. Exactly. The men in black musk. And so when the men in black show up, they usually sound funny with the inflection in their speech, just being kind of at the wrong time or in the wrong part of the word. Their lips seem to either be non-present at all or barely there or thin or in some stories drawn on they asked for water drawn on to like where the there's a mouth, but there's no lips.

So they just draw lips on lacking eyebrows as well, typically very pale looking. Sometimes they even ask for water and we'll leave it and not drink any of it, just kind of like letting it sit there while politely telling you all the while while they're in your house in this awkward manner that whatever sighting or encounter or whatever it is you just had to never speak about it openly, never tell anyone about it or some rather dangerous consequences could occur to their after they typically leave. And there's also reports of them specifically smelling of old eggs or like sulfur like on their bot like actually if they they themselves carry that smell.

Oh, so maybe like earlier, they're like getting spied on or like maybe that's their gaseous form. Yeah. They just putting around their stank around the real question I have is like, what about like credentials? Do they like say do they have a story? In some of them they they they just say that they like flash a badge, but it's not anything familiar.

It's not like they say they're with the FBI there, whatever organization they belong with is kind of kept vague or not spoken about, at least in the stories that I read. Do you think people imply when they tell the stories like I read a lot of stories about the men in black over the years, right? I've seen like I'm assuming you've seen the camera footage of the two guys that go in. Yeah, the two guys that walk in and out. I mean, it could be like full devil's advocate. It could be like two tall dudes in suits.

Of course, absolutely. And that's I mean, it's very weird. And the fact that there is like evidence around it. But the thing that I'm getting at is like, do you think when people share these accounts and these stories that they are implying that it is an alien creature that is pretending to be from the government or that they are implying more like a reptilian angle type thing where they're like, there are monsters who work for the government that like come after you. So that's when we get to the theory part, which will be in part two, all of those.

Like there are tons of theories that they believe that they're extraterrestrials working for the government or some secret global organization or that they aren't any of that. And they're simply there to try and control whatever it is they're trying to control or that they're created as a hybrid species between aliens and the government. All that stuff we'll talk about. It's it's it's later on. But yeah, they're like all of those are highly accepted, if not heavily debated theories when we talk about men in black.

If you believe they exist at all. Yeah, no, it's definitely not so. I see. OK. So at that point, giving you that that's where in my head, you know, I was writing the script. That's where I heard Jesse say this is all interesting, but it's all fucking nonsense. I was going to say something, but I'm being quiet because I'm waiting. And also eating Lindy's homemade Italian ice, it's still delicious. What? Well, my response should Jesse had said that to me was going to be

honestly, you're right. Kind of maybe a little bit. It sounds I mean, it sounds very like nebulous specific, like even more so than like alien encounters. These like just seem like very hard to find as like consistent encounters. If you know what I mean, they they're very they're very inconsistent. And that one of the I mean, we'll we'll talk about. I'm kind of jumping ahead of myself. Let's just stick where we're at.

So while reports of encountering the men in black still occur today, very rarely, though. But we, you know, as we were talking about, there's like weird video evidence that may or may not be what we believe it is or could just be tall people. It's at least worth watching for a scare. If you look it up, I mean, if you look at men in black footage, it's pretty good. It's very satisfying. Yeah, it's very interesting footage, regardless. I think it's worth watching.

But the M.I.B. They they weren't ever first truly publicly mentioned until 1956. In a book called They Know Too Much About UFOs written by Gary Barker. Now, if that name rings a bell, it's because he was brought up very briefly and tangentially earlier in our Mothman episodes because he's the same author for one of the books that we ended up using as as research. 1970s The Silver Bridge, which was the first book. Yeah, which was the first book to link point pleasant disaster with the supposed Mothman.

And the story above is one experienced again, supposedly by the author Barker. But like a personal account. Yes, that was he considered a personal account that he was on a boat, that he was there, all that stuff happened to him. But at some point later down the line, most of that was disproven. It's hard to disprove. Don't say you don't say we're going to again, we're going back. We're going back in layers.

This is not the stop as to where the root of this all comes from. It's just that's the first time men in black had actually been written about in a book. So do you actually have these Gary Barker books? No, I do not have them. I borrowed the I borrowed one book from one of my researchers. She has access to a library and I just didn't I didn't read the other one. Are they are they like 600 pages? They're so the first the first one, the one written about the UFOs.

They know too much as it was published by Universal Booking Thing. It was like 100. It's like the hundred hundred and fifty page mark. Yeah, but it's pretty quick. But and then the second one was published. The second book written about UFOs that we're going to talk about here was actually self published by him. What are we?

I just got this text message from Alex. Sorry, I'm in the back. I sent that about the time. I sent that about 25 minutes. Look at the time. Oh, I literally got there now. I just got the same text now. The real Alex.

What do you what do you mean? When he's just burst from his back and just flops out. I just looked over. I saw the time and the time that is right now. I get a text message from you that says I'm in the bathroom. And here you are. I'm letting you know this would be a coast to coast. Yeah, I think I'm talking to him, George, but he was in the bathroom.

Jesse, not to creep you out any further before we start recording. Keep in mind he did turn his camera off and walk away. That's true. You're right. Oh, my God, you're so right. And they did. Oh, I walked away too. But you came for Lindy's homemade Italian ice and I walked right back after I saw that sweet, sweet Italian ice.

So moving on. What? So while the story above is one experienced and certainly fake by most accounts, one only really needs to dig slightly deeper to see that. Yes, while Barker certainly produced the first modern publicly available experience written about the M.I.B. from what you would consider, I guess, mass consumption. It was not Barker's story. That was a string of importance here.

While what he wrote was fiction, what the experience with the with the men in black was inspired by a story he had read earlier. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Are you heard of the initial story in the 50s was fiction. Correct. But he's given credence for this point. Pleasant stuff in the 70s because why? Most of what he wrote in the book in the 70s as well is mostly disproven. OK, just want that out there.

Yeah, no, no, no, it's fine. Because remember, the main book that we used was Kiehl's book. If I remember correctly, it was written in the 90s, where that's what we learned about all those abien sightings and the Mothman prophecies. That's like that's where the Mothman prophecies came from. That was like the main focus of that. So as I said, it was just kind of a detail he took much like he did in the Mothman book. Barker was much more interested in the drama, flair and money to be had.

In fact, in private, it was said that Barker was a massive skeptic and that he wrote all these books simply for how much they sold and the cash to be made writing in one letter and notating them, calling his own works. Those cookie books. That seems fun, man. Right. I mean, it's shitty in a way like those crazy books. Just like I mean, like writing fake shit is like no good. It's a little bit like it would be so well, he gets he gets a little scum here.

And that's well, well, like I said, all of that stuff is correct. And he's, you know, he he made up all that other stuff. He was also known to participate in hoaxes as well to fool the enthusiast use of UFO people who were also buying his books at the end of the day. Just to fuck with him. Yeah, just to fuck with him. No reason. He didn't do anything right about it, nothing. He just got involved in hoaxes to laugh at the people who were buying his books.

All right. Well, great start to the history of the men in black. It's all hoaxes. However, but it's not Barker that we care about here. We do not care about Barker, though. It's important we kind of play that little lay that layer. Over it. Correct. Well, technically. But the man is what you're telling me is the first the technical first person.

He's the one that put another people are like, no, but it's true. No, no, no, no, just loopy. Because he based it off something that he already heard. Yes, he based it off somebody who didn't even want to come forward. And his second book, after bugging him for three years, he was able finally to get this guy to come forward and write his book to do this book with him. And the book was then called Fly Flying Saucers and the Three Men.

And that book was about none other than Albert K. Bender, which is the most of the focus here of the rest of the episode. And if you know about the men in black, I feel like this guy is probably the guy. Like, if you know a name in this story, it's probably his. He is like much like I keep talking about the basics. The more you start looking at the men in black, the more imperative is it is, you know, about him

before you start researching because of of if you want to even put any weight into what he says or not. Yeah, because this is where the men in black truly originated. Three years prior to the Barker's 56 book in 1953, Bender closed down his nerd organization that I so lovingly call it for now. After only keeping it open for about one straight year. Bender, like us, and I mean us, the three of us, and presumably all those listening, was very interested in the paranormal and the unknown, particularly nerd,

particularly UFOs and cryptids around this time. In 1952, he began his little nerd organization by simply collecting stories and information on the Flatwoods Monster and UFO encounters in the Brack in Braxton County, West Virginia. But about a year later, he suddenly stopped. And when he was asked why, he simply said he was told not to continue by, I quote, quote, a higher source, end quote. And that's where he would always leave it if anybody ever brought it up.

Now, to make an exceptionally long story slightly shorter before we deal a little bit more of his past life, Bender claims that three oddly tall men in black suits who arrived in a black vehicle parked across the street from his home, though they initially looked human upon closer inspection as he interacted with them. They had all the telltale signs of what would become known as the men in black of legend and, of course, the inspiration for Barker's book in 1956. Pale skin, lack of lips.

But when these might be communicated with Bender, it wasn't through vocal usage like a lot of stories are, but it was telepathically while at the end of the conversation handing him a metal disc with instructions following that encounter where it was days of vomiting migraines and generally ill health. The event shocked Bender so much that he refused to even speak about it publicly until Barker eventually got him to tell him a little bit about the story and which was the inspiration for his fifty six book and then eventually the whole story for his book thereafter, which is wild,

because that's kind of similar to like a lot of the people's experiences out there with a lot of alien. Yeah, men in black aliens, they usually have the experience and then they never ever want to talk about it because it was traumatic. And then someone comes digging and digging and digging. And eventually they kind of get even the specifics of like meeting this guy. The guy doesn't actually speak, but he like speaks into your mind. He kind of seems weird.

He like makes you feel sick, like, you know, like that's pretty. I mean, that could be the same type of encounter. I don't know. Yeah. No. I mean, there's other ones like that. Um, but for that all set up, the question and all this, the root of the MIB myth is all hinging right here and simply on the question of, all right, so then who is Albert Bender? While some people might jump at the chance to tear his life apart

and look for all the times that he's lied, created fantastical stories and do all these things that would gather him attention. Unfortunately, at the end of the day, Albert Bender is kind of boring, if slightly eccentric and clearly a nerd. His past is simple. He was born on June 16th in 1921, lived a relatively normal life. He served in the Air Force during World War Two as a dental technician. Hell, yeah. Afterward. Yeah, sweet.

He's a dental technician. Afterward, he then moved to Bridgeport, Virginia with his mother and stepfather into a stepfather's house, where in 1953, the encounter of the Amen and Blackwood changes life from it forever. Right on 784 Broad Street. And he didn't even have any sort of encounter himself until these guys were like, stop looking this shit up. He he actually technically the Men in Black were the only encounter he had.

He didn't have a UFO encounter. Yeah, he never had. He didn't have an alien encounter. Any of that stuff. It's what he did that supposedly is spurred on the encounter with the Men in Black that is equally. Interesting, if which we'll talk about why and kind of hilarious, which we'll also talk about. That's an odd at the time, though, during during the early 50s.

Albert was working as chief timekeeper at Acme Sheer Company, the world's largest scissor manufacturer. Bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom, bom. Maybe go along with that cartoonish idea, Bender, either with the weirdest, nerdiest, dorkiest sense of humor or a bizarre passion. Would he filled his living area, which was in the attic at the time, with 20 clocks that chimed every 15 minutes, 30 minutes or every hour.

It was a house in room filled with constant bings, bongs and chimes, and I just cannot imagine living there. That was his whole house was just like the clock. No, so he lived with his parents in his stepfather's home in the attic. And he chose to make the entire attic into like a hellish clock nightmare. A hellish clock nightmare of of chiming clocks constantly as chief timekeeper of Acme Sheer Corporation. So which this guy is like a Dr. Seuss protagonist.

He's like the villain of Dr. Seuss story where he's going to learn. Oh, but but Alex, he only gets even weirder as we go on. See, after all of that, and that lasted some time right around the early fifties, fifty two, fifty three, right when we're talking about all these things, he changed his collection. The clocks eventually slowly disappeared and replacing those clocks were more occult like stuff in his collections, such as fake skulls, witchcraft, a bizarre original art that he supposedly made

that I could not find a picture of very easily in my in my quick search for his art and apparently shrunken heads were all part of his collection. I imagine paintings. I got to get a look at the I bet you it's like a tunnel of clocks. I bet you he I bet you he like invented the opening of the twilight zone just from his like personal life. So not only did he transform his attic, it gets worse.

Not only did he transform his attic. Oh, God, he was born in 1921 and we're looking at the 1950s. Oh, so he's a millennial. So got it. Yeah, he's he's 30, 30 in his early thirties at this point. A bunch of weird old shit, putting it on his parents' walls. Yeah, got it. But when he had company come over, he would love to bring them into the room.

And he would have he would he would enhance the atmosphere. And I put enhance and air quotes with his record player having it play the sounds of thunder, sobbing, cries and general horror noises as the person entered his as he called it Chamber of Horrors. What? OK. So he's just literally like an enthusiast. He is a hyper enthusiast about whatever he's into at the time. He just like read like the House of Usher and he just like got into it super hard.

And he's like the equivalent of like a nightmare before Christmas. Fan, I think Jesse's going down the research hole. I'm trying to find art. I'm trying to find out. I don't think good luck, dude. I couldn't find anything. Yeah, look, here's the other day just to show you that I'll eventually find it. The other day I was like, what happened to Bob Ross's paintings?

Like, I would love to know where they all sold off. Yeah, like maybe I want to own a Bob Ross one day. Apparently there's a Bob Ross Foundation or some nonsense and everything's there. They will never sell them. And there are thousands of paintings and they're all in this warehouse. And I'm like, what a waste. Yeah, what a waste.

So I'll find it. Give me a second. I'll find this. It's all good. But I just like I imagine Jesse, like Jesse, Albert, for some reason, you're going to hang out with Albert, Albert Bender. He brings you into his room of horrors and as he plays, he's got this like shitting grin on his face as he steps back and he does something

quietly and suddenly you're just in this you hear thunder and crying. And he's just standing by the side being like you like it. Close your eyes before you is a bowl of worms and eyeballs. Put your hands inside tomato sauce. I love it, dude. I love it. So unsurprisingly, at this time, he was very heavily interested in the paranormal, particularly witchcrafts and ghosts.

But even more unsurprisingly, he was also being swept up in the UFO fever that was sweeping across the US in the 50s at the time. And in 1952, that particular nerd organization was created and it was dubbed the International Flying Saucer Bureau or the IFSB for short, where CEO of Eastern Airlines and World War One flyer Eddie Rickenbacher joined as an honorary member. Einstein was also invited, but politely declined. He was like, no, thank you, nerds.

Within the first year, it reached over 600 people, or should I say, rather it's over 600 people became members by reaching out through the quarterly journal Space Review. And he, Bender, was president, where his best buddy. Fuck, I can't remember his name was like the vice president. It was just like his best friend who also worked at Akron. Became was like the vice president. So I was like, just a nerd club who gained itself a little

legitimacy by getting like a military guy to join. But oh, no, what is this? I don't know that these count as art, but there are two things he did draw. There you go. That's the kind of, oh, my God, that's so creepy. It's such a shitty. It's like a UFO. It looks like it looks like the Mount Chilead mystery. Like it really.

It's a man. I think it's a man with a cowboy hat on. I don't. Yeah. The second one's far worse. No, I might be a man in black because the fedora, the the the suit with the tie. Well, whatever it is, they both are terrified. Well, what's the second one? Hang on. You guys got to see the second one. The first one is this UFO with like a flashlight. Oh, I only clicked on the second picture.

Shit, I didn't see the first one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. See. OK. So that flashlight fits very, very well with the the hourglass. Neuralizer that they use in men in black. It's also similar to the shape of the injured cold ship. Apparently the hourglass, the lantern, rather, shapes the spacecraft, which is also not not just seen here in this painting, but it's actually like a relatively common shape that people see out in the wild.

If the Green Lantern was like inspired by that in some way, God, he looks like a nerd, doesn't he? Green Lantern. Yeah, good for him. No, no, no. What a nerd. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah, it is very Green Lantern. Like it does look like the Green Lantern Lantern. Yeah. I mean, he has the vibe. Like honestly, I thought this guy was weird at first, but I like I think I get it. Like this guy didn't have the Internet or anything.

You know what I mean? Like no. Yeah, if you had the Internet, he probably would have been like this. I get it. This is like the equivalent of like literally like a podcast. They're like, you're right, like he's us. Like, yeah, I mean, he has the best place to best way to reach out to people who was interested in at the time, specifically something so niche. Magazine Club. Like, yeah, that's the best.

That's the best you got. And I was going to make fun of him for having the clocks all over his walls. And then I realized that in my living room, I have a pink neon light that says that's tight. You know what I mean? You actually do. And it's but that's what I mean. Like it's just as nerdy.

It's just as like self-indulgent, right? Like, you know what I mean? He's just doing the same thing. He's just being like a like a like a dark child. He's just, you know, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And the weird nerdy stuff. And you can see you can see the kind of pride on his face in his pictures.

And he loves that shit. Good for him. Good for you. Good for you, dude. Good job, Albert. They didn't have not combat then. Like, was he? No, no, they did not. They were just probably better for their mental health, for sure. Yeah. So it was through this group of 600 members that he was then able to go from collecting local stories

to starting to collect stories from all over the country and in starts to piece together and really started filing away these encounters with UFOs that people supposedly were seeing and all this other stuff. Now, granted, anybody could write anything in the encounters he was getting. There's no way to verify any of it as fact fiction or what not. Only that it was getting a lot. And it was interesting enough for him to keep it around popular. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

But there was one more thing. Mr. Bender was super freaking into at the time. And this isn't, you know, something bizarre. Well, it's kind of bizarre, but it isn't like even weirder than that. Things we've talked about. He was super into telepathy at the time. He was very, very heavily into the idea of telepathy. Say it tracks, you know what I mean?

Like it's very much the same wheel. You can see it all coming together. Yeah. Like there's a point in time where I was reading all about. I think we talked about it, Seth and like out of body experiences. And yeah, I was ready to buy any like junk. Somebody was selling me because I was young and it was exciting. Kid who like tried to go Super Saiyan. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like it's the same thing. Yeah, true. Come on. Yeah, I try to go Super Saiyan so many. Got it. At least once in your life. Yeah. So you check to make sure you still have like a like a functioning heart. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Yeah. And you and well, you're alive and you feel good, but you're not a Super Saiyan, but it's OK. You try or like when you put your hand up at the grocery store to open the door with the force.

Yeah. Yeah. You got to see if you've got the force. And sometimes if you're like trying to move a piece of paper, because you got to start light with telepathy, you can't start with heavy objects and then you just you're breathing really hard. So you may be kind of hoping your breath catches it and you just kind of convince yourself you blew the paper like an inch and you get really excited. I had this buddy on a way back in the forum days.

I had this buddy who was super in buddy as a dude. I knew over the forums. I don't even know what he looked like, but he he desperately told was trying to convince everybody that he was truly telepathic and he could go and out of out about experiences and come communicate with you in your dreams. And the amount of times I tried to set this up with him and he just couldn't do it.

And it was just very disappointing. I was very ready. I was very ready for someone to visit it. It's almost like he was lying. It's all it's almost like he was Albert Bender is all of us. He's not crazy. Albert Bender would have been one of my friends. I don't know. He sounds crazy. He sounds crazy. Albert Bender is not me. Albert Bender sounds like a dude who is dipping his toe in everything

and then claiming he's seen stuff like every other person. If I cut my hair really short, if I cut my hair really short and shave my beard, I could pass as like an old Albert Bender, kind of boring ass looking dude. You already friends with Albert Bender. You are all of us. Say a portion of a portion. A portion. I'm saying me.

I already am your Albert Bender. Your Albert Bender is too late. You're Albert Bender's lunch money at the boy's school. I just wanted him to show me his telepathy and he couldn't. So I couldn't really stop me from taking your lunch money with your mind, Albert. Come on. Why don't you show me how to show me your powers? Why don't you stop me?

Not going to lie. I would do that. I'd be like, yeah, make my head explode. Albert Albert. Don't give me your five. Your five dollars are disappearing, Albert. Oh, yeah. Maybe tomorrow. Five dollars. He wasn't a millionaire. He is like five cents. I stole your nickel, Albert. What are you going to do about it?

Fucking Albert. This is the 20s and 30s. I'd like to say five dollars. Man would have had three houses in the 30s. Well, there's a reason I bring up my forum. My forum encounter. Because Albert, if anything, was a resourceful man. No, I'm just kidding.

We was a very resourceful man and he very much was that guy on the forums because he decided to take his love for his practicing of telepathy, mental telepathy and his love for UFO and this sudden resource of six hundred people who sort of respect him for some reason because he's part of their club and he's the president. And so he took all of that, put it together and started having some telepathic experiments with those that he was part of part of his group. Specifically, he would prompt the readers of Space Review to go home

and memorize and silently recite to oneself on a very particular day and on a very particular time of a message that he more or less wrote out in this magazine. His goal was to try and connect with alien life via simultaneous thought projection of hundreds of IFSB members in something that he was hoped to call World Contact Day. I see what you're saying. Like they all try at the same time and get them there to practice it. We're going to say what he's what he had them practice here in a minute.

But yeah, he would have them practice it and memorize it and keep it in so that he could do it. And so the IFSB officially preferred calling it Sea Day for Contact Day and would commence at six o'clock in the evening Eastern Standard Time on March 15th, 1953. The telepathic message said, and I quote, Calling occupants of interplanetary craft. Calling occupants of interplanetary craft.

Please jizz on us. Our dogs are ready. Meet us by the water. We will be waiting. OK, calling occupants of interplanetary craft that have been observing our planet Earth. We of IFSB wish to make contact with you. We are your friends. And quote, I would have done this.

All right, I would have done. All right, all right. I would have done this. Absolutely. I would have done this. Yep, I can't begin to tell you if I was the aliens. And this is if I heard attention. I said, whatever the hell that message was, please jizz on my boat. It was coming to me to let you don't you for no. It was Sea Day, March 15th, 1953, six o'clock.

P.S.C. 600 voices from planet Earth. Also, repeat that again, please repeat that again. And imagine you're the alien and you hear this for the first time. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Imagine you're the alien and you hear this. We are whispering because our mothers are in the other room. OK, here's what you hear. It's in your mind. Here we go.

Imagine this is what you hear. You're an alien. Calling occupants of interplanetary craft. Calling occupants of interplanetary craft that have been serving our planet Earth. We of I F S B wish to make contact with you. We are your friends. All right. The first thing you're going to do as an alien is you're going to say, what the hell was that?

Then you're going to go Google space Google I F S B realize they a bunch of weirdo nerds and be like, no, we good. Yeah, you're going to look them up and you'll be like, you'll be like, Glorbox, are there hot? Are there hot earth girls there? But no, only depressed earth men. How did they do the reversing? That was cool.

Hard pass, Glorbox. Hard pass. Do you want some of this? Space West. I have some lemon ice in the space fridge. I abducted it from Italy. Oh, damn, snop. You have Lindy's homemade Italian ice. It's only 100 calories per jar.

It's the best in the galaxy. It's my favorite. So it's my favorite lemon ice on the Citadel. It also comes in raspberry and strawberry flavor. That's very that's my favorite, Glorbox. Thanks, Nortcock. Let's go. Just on some dogs, Nortcock.

That sounds like that sounds like a name you would use in your jail bait assassin group, snortcock. I could do two at a time, baby. The two Nostrums. Motherfucker up. If you're going to try and communicate with any alien life, you have to assume that they are smarter than you. So for you to be like talking like you're talking to your grandmother,

attention, alien life, Nana, Nana. I'm Greek. Nana. You hungry, Nana? Well, it's actually, honestly, and if I may take that comedy tangent and warp it into something that's not out of the field of possibility, it could be that it's not even necessarily the message that was the intent,

but more of the feeling that is to go along with it, a more welcoming one. Yeah, that sounds like that's like if you heard people say that to you and they were like, come on into our home, you're welcome in our home. We, the people of 330 Patterson Road, welcome you into our home. You're welcome to our home. Would you go in that home? You'd be like, I got stuff to do. OK, now let me let me lay it out a little bit more.

Now we welcome you to our home. Everyone, humans of the block, come into our home. We'd be like, no, no, no. Now pretend that that's just a bunch of like spider monkeys with no weapons that are trying to do that. Meanwhile, you have assault rifles. Are you still as scared? Yes, because I'd be like spider monkeys.

What if the spider monkeys? I don't want to go to their tree. That's what a spider monkey sent you imagery of spider monkeys and people drinking white claws together and having like cool, sexy, sexy time. But then I would be like, yo, I might not be not for the cool, sexy times, but I'd love to drink back and kick back with a spider monkey. And like talk about like we have a few space claws. We drink those things.

No, no time out. I'd be like, all right. So what's it really like? Like you're hanging back with your spider monkey girlfriend, like you freaky. And you'll be like, show she don't get it. Freaky good. I mean, listen, boys, show a hand. Who would sleep with a hyperintelligent spider monkey woman who gives you consent?

No, what does she hold on? Hold on. This is a problem. Nobody can see a spider monkey or an anthropomorphic spider monkey that looks like a human with like you got to look at it like this, like the spider monkeys are just a freaking metaphor for humans. And the humans are a metaphor for the aliens. Yeah. But like the aliens, they probably see us like we don't want to think too much about having a spider monkey, actual spider monkeys, because that's not what

they're like. I know. Come on. The hyper, they're like, they're hyper evolved. I get it. They're like, but you both raised your hands and I question it. And I was imagining a human who's as smart as a spider monkey. What? What? I was just trying to make it more make more sense because I'm not trying to think that makes it less like you want to, you want to, you want to bang a woman who's just like, no, we're just not actually talking about spider monkeys. And so I was trying to not think about copulating with the hangover monkey.

You're trying to put you, but you got to put yourself in the alien. That's what I'm trying to do. That's what I'm saying. The aliens. The aliens don't want anything to do with it. If they look, if they saw us, they were like, we want to welcome you to our sex party. Aliens would be like dirty ass humans. No, I don't know. Maybe we're worth breeding. Who knows? We're not. Have you seen us?

We are. We're very. Yeah. But we're like super sexual. So how long you know, you can get some of that chunk of chunk of good seed. Like a lot. How long after C. The aliens don't want how long after C. Day did the men in black show up then? Did it work or not? Well, last, last bit.

Well, let's talk last tidbit, a fun, a fun tidbit of information. Those very lyrics that I should say that very line actually worked its way into Canadian progressive rock band Klaatu's haunting anthem by the same name, I think Klaatu that's that's. Well, that was the progressive rock band name was already fans of. Yeah, yeah, obviously. So unsurprisingly, things in turn out so good for Bender after that. Prior to that message, he had reported, at least he claims that there was

kind of a weird uncomfortable feeling in his attic, kind of a funky smell. I'm partial to believe it's because he decked out his attic in like a weird, gross, like haunted house style. And it might be maybe like you said, the fake eyeballs he forgot about him. But he said such asbestos, you know, the asbestos of the 50s, all that good stuff. But after that message, it only got much, much, much worse. That's the question him for him. Exactly. So the other people who were in on the chant.

They what? What about their daily lives and everything was fine? Well, but if you well, if you OK, right? Like, if you get if you get a message from the IFSB and go to the president, you go to the boss, you tell you cut the head off the snake. What do you got? You got a dead snake body. You can cook that. You can eat that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but wouldn't you?

But if I was an alien and I had to deal with a whole group, I wouldn't stop at just the boss and be like, another could take over. Yes, Gork Nock, we must defeat them. I would go to every single one and be like, you don't want to do this. I'm a man in black. True. But you think of it this way. If all the other people don't get any visitations and nothing happens, and they'll just think it failed.

Right. This is. Oh, I hate this. I hate this logic. Is that like my stone keeps tigers away? Do you see any tigers? This is what this is. This is what this is what this argument is. I hate it. Well, you know, I can't fight it because it's gibberish. You will. You never know which is true.

You know, you know, you can at least point to scientific evidence to the reason to say the reason you're not getting attacked by tigers because there's no fucking tigers that live in goddamn like for me, Boston. There's no tigers that live out here. Of course it's going to work. This bottle of water is my anti tiger purse friend. Just yeah, yeah, the Boston Zoo broke out. So continuing on, things got much, much worse.

That's when the phone calls began with silence, sometimes garbled noises. Sometimes it sounded like somebody was talking, but he couldn't understand what they were saying. The stench got worse. The smell of sulfur was persistent. He was also apparently ordered telepathically to cease delving into matters that were not his concern. A yellow mist even at one point gathered in the attic.

Completely scaring him saying to his subjects like, oh, we really did. Sure, aliens didn't arrive on the day, but boy, the men in black are after me. So we must have done something. Keep in mind, these details didn't come out until nine years later. Yeah, he refused to talk about it. He stopped talking about it. He just shut up in July of 1953. He just shut it down.

Because that was a day that was in March, March 15th. So it got till July. And remember, the magazine was reaching out to March and July with his group. Rotten eggs. Well, the magazine he reached out to was only quarterly. It wasn't monthly. OK, so there wasn't another issue. Right. Yeah, there wasn't. So what ended up happening is after all that stuff in July of 53,

that's when he was visited by three men. After all of the strange phone calls, this weird smell, the yellow smoke. But he had planned on putting out another issue. He did. And we're going to get to that. Bender had actually continuing on. But the three men, he described them as dressed in black clothes. They looked like clergymen, but wore hats similar to the Humberg style, which is that what the hat is in in his drawing?

Is that the Humberg style of hat? Do you think it's kind of like a yeah, it's the it's the curled up brim, like Fedora. OK, so it's the same hat in the art. It looks like a Fedora, like if a if a Fedora and a cowboy hat had sex with each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Humb Humberg Humberg. Humberg either way, when they were when they arrived, the three of them.

And he made it clear that the men in black, as far as he understood, always arrived in threes, which ends up not being true for later circumstances. They made it very clear to him that he needs to immediately stop all UFO work completely, sees himself, sees looking deeper, Steve sees trying to make contact and just stop. They telepathically communicated him to stop publishing. And before they left, they confiscated copies of the space review. The magazine that I was using to communicate and in their wake, a yellow fog once again materialized upstairs in his attic on 784 Broad Street.

The vile odor of sulfur wafted through the attic and unnerved by their other worldly presence, he shuttered that he was scared to death and was unable to eat for days afterward. Beyond that. Be bender in the July issue that came out before this encounter. He said in the July issue that he in the following issue had a startling revelation to share with everybody. Then the encounter happened.

And then after that, nobody would ever get to learn that startling revelation because he shut down the the IFSB completely. And only when he was ever asked why, he said, as I said, in the beginning of this episode, because of the higher powers and left it at that for nine years. So he had really nothing to gain. He didn't gain anything. Yeah. He gained nothing from this.

He had a cool club where he was the cool dude. He and then he had some encounters supposedly, obviously, is all very supposed. And then afterward, when he shut it down, it was done. And he never never pursued it really ever again. This is one of those things where you you claim something and then because it fails dramatically, like. Oh, by right. It seems like him saying I write a quarterly newsletter

and I try to get someone to do something and it didn't nothing happened. I'm I need to get out of here. And then later on throughout his life, people are like, why? Why'd you do that? What happened? What's going on? And finally, he was like, Men in Black showed up and they harass me. Well, I mean, I don't I don't know, right? Like this guy's story came out, what, three years later? No, nine years later. No, the the Gary.

Oh, yeah, three years after his first book. So that book came out in the 70s. So it's a story he's been told. So Barker Barker, the 70s, wasn't his first book. Barker's first book was 1956, the the the Saucer book. Then three years later, he wrote about another Saucer book, another Saucer book, fully about Ben. That's in 59. And then.

Yeah. And then in the 70s is when he wrote about. So there was six years before before. The first, yes, there were six years before that and then nine years before a story was made. Yeah. So so that was so we're talking 15 years or are we talking three more years after the book came out until he told his story? So so OK, so from the events, he the encounter was in 1953. Then in Oh, am I am I mixing?

Am I telling you the wrong date? I just want to make sure because I think I like if if the dude if Wagner, what's his name? Gary Wagner. I've got me all confused. Gary Barker, if Barker heard it that many years before and was able to put out a book, it's weird that he would wait so long if it was like him trying to gain off of it by sharing the story.

Well, the reason he had heard about it is because and we can actually go back and retrace this our very selves is that the his initial encounters he reported to the newspaper and apparently following reporting it to the newspaper. He got massive migraines and was once again warned to stop in 53. And that's when he and that's when he shut up. Yeah, correct. So there is actually claiming this to have happened at the time. Yeah, in the Herald.

You can actually read it in the Herald. You can see that's what that's what's interesting to me about it. Yep. He he into the the the journalist, rather, whose name was hang on, I have this written down. Uh, yeah, there it is. I'm Lem McCollum. OK, he he described what the way he heard it from him, his personal explanation of the description he heard was quote unquote, government officials.

It sounded like government officials to to the to the reporter. Apparently, they flashed they end up flashing like badges at him, but fast enough that he didn't know what the hell they were. And he just kind of through intimidation and just in the original encounter, you mean they flash badges? Yes, yes. Yes, yes. And in the encounter that that he had with those three men in black,

they flashed a badge, walked in, gave the warnings. He reported to the magazine, had headaches, shut up about it, didn't talk about it until the book. That's why it's so interesting to me, right? Like if he really did this for attention, right? He goes to the newspaper, nothing comes of it. Six years later, a guy writes a book about it. Three years later, I was off a little bit.

Three years later, a guy writes a book about it. Six years later is when his story is officially. Three years later, the guy writes the book about it. The guy doesn't talk about this guy at all, right? In the book, in the first book. It's just like an. Yeah, no, he makes up his own story and uses his encounter as the basis for his.

He really told him about the story, right? At the very least, just be based. After after a lot of prodding, he didn't open up right away. Based on like, I mean, you look at the newspaper story and you look at the story that was written in the fake book about it. And they're similar enough that this guy probably actually told this guy the story. And then even then, he didn't try and capitalize on it. And then after all of that, he actually ended up Albert Bender,

departed Bridgeport completely, went to California three years after the public, after publishing his own autobiography, which didn't do very well. And he passed away not too long ago in 2016 at the age of 94. The biography come out. Oh, God, fuck. I don't have this. I don't have recently.

More recently, I got a look. I got a look. I don't know that off top of my head because I didn't deem it terribly important. Maybe I should have just mean like I'm trying to get a sense of this guy's like a career out of this type of being Albert Bender or not. Mm hmm. It just seems weird that so much time went by of the story

being a thing before he tried to make a big deal out of it, which to me, there's a lot that doesn't make sense, which to me like makes it seem a little bit more realistic and believable to me. Basically, that's where the Albert Bender story ends, too, because after all the stuff, after the book comes out, he just goes and lives a normal life for the most part and then just dies an old man. He stays out of the the biggest spotlight for the, you know,

he doesn't really do much. I'm looking at this. I want to see this autobiography. I want to see when I wrote it because I'm interested. Albert K. Bender legacy. Holy shit. To get this book, the physical book, one of the original prints of Flying Saucers and the Three Men.

Oh, it must be Flying Saucers and the Three Men they're talking about. So that was literally the only book that he wrote, which was which was written with Barker, yeah, fifteen hundred dollars for this copy. Jesus, fifteen hundred dollars for today, because it's like the because it comes with signed original photograph and two signed letters in black story. And, dude, on the Wikipedia of his of Albert K. Bender, there is a actual a sketch that he did himself of the men in black. So you can actually see it. Oh, really? Oh, yeah.

Right at the bottom. It looks like a drawing from like a Sufian Stevens album. See that there? If you just scroll to the bottom of the page. Yeah, I'm just getting back on the page. Even the. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Even I think the article. It's cool. Oh, yeah, there it is. Right there.

Oh, no, this is a later article. Don't be afraid, darling. It's Bender doesn't look like a creep, but you should see his room. Oh, that's talking about the Chamber of Horrors that we have right there. That's great. Yeah, this is fifty two. Yeah, like I said, it's fifty two to fifty three when the encounter happens. And then afterwards just. Yeah, so I mean, yeah, it just seems.

It just seems interesting to me that he would have all these things happen to him and not really try and capitalize off it beyond doing this. But. Yeah, it doesn't really say that he did anything else. Right. Found it. Well, he founded the Max Steiner Music Society in 1965, which was joined by John Wayne and Fred Astaire and Vincent Price. See, I didn't I didn't get to that part of his life. I just did this.

Oh, yeah, he totally just went on to just have like a totally. Yeah, he just lived a life. Exactly. Which is why. Yeah, go ahead, Jesse. Again, which is why it seems like a scam to me. What do you mean? Because everything I'm reading about. Well, everything I'm reading about this guy is that it seems like this was a.

I'm trying to get money slash rich slash famous. And this seems like a good way to do it. You know, there are people out there who target gullible people. Well, it seems like he had a story for almost 10 years and he didn't do anything with it, besides tell it to a few people. You know what I mean? Well, I feel like during that time period over the course of that 10 years, you can easily say that he ran from one thing

and then tried to do something else. I don't know what he did during that 10 years. He stayed. He stayed chief timekeeper the whole time. He was just that was his whole job, like the whole first part of his life. He chief. Yeah, that's pretty much what all he did during that time. I mean, I don't know. I would I would associate it with the idea that he then became famous and got what he wanted.

And just as another tangential kind of just point, like he eventually married Betty Rose the following year. And she, too, claims to have been visited by supernatural alien personages as well. But but that's the point of it. We can't like you look back at Bender and you can see things that are like really fishy and kind of weird and just like sketchy. But then you kind of the whole picture like just was his goal to like make a story. This is why this I found this important and worth doing

point like episode one on because this is where it all comes from. The men in black start here. And whether you believe him or not will heavily inform whether you believe when we talk about what the theories are, what they tend to do in the final episode next reason I love this stuff so much is because it requires about as much faith as like religion. And it's interesting because like it's it's kind of it kind of is like the same thing as a religion in a way like you have to learn all the little

stories. It's like, you know, like basically what we're doing is we're like learning the Bible part. We're like taking the catechism right now. You're like you're kind of like the alien priest. You know, I'm imagining hiding you through the night like it's it's funny because I feel like it's the same thing. It's like we're trying to explain something and, you know, people have all these stories. And I mean, at the very least, it's interesting, right?

Like people always say these things like help them find purpose in life regardless of whether or not they're true. But I think I think that even I think if they are true, that's like the trap of it is that it's like it's hard to it's hard to swallow something so impossible. And and at the very least, even if even if you don't buy into it a hundred percent, it sure is interesting. There's so many people out there who are all saying the same thing. You know what I mean?

It's a remarkable thing. It's just it's fun. But it's not just fun. It's like it makes you think like. No, yeah, of course. But that's what what's what makes it fun to me is like it just it challenges you even if you don't believe in it. It forces you to think about some things and it's really fun and it's an enjoyable it's it's all about the thought whether I believe in this shit or not. Listen, me starting this podcast, I feel like that's the nail in the coffin

for my abduction chances, so I probably not going to get abducted. They don't want me to tell the story. You know, like it seems like everyone who has a thing about aliens, they're the ones that get abducted. Like the ones who are like, I believe are the ones who end up getting abducted. No, but like Betty and Barney Hill, like we'll talk about them in much more detail one day. They were nobody. That that's a good story.

Nobody. All right. Well, how about this? When does this podcast go out? Yeah. This is going up tonight or tomorrow. So the 2nd of February, the third, depending on how about on February 5th at 9 p.m. 9 p.m. Pacific time, you know, midnight East Coast, you know, the witching hour or something like something close to it, you know, like, what if we all just think about the we have a mantra. All right.

I'm going to write out a mantra. You guys can wrap up the show right on Montrose. Well, as Jesse finished that up, I'm very I'm very excited to return the world of aliens. So thank you all for coming along with me on this in this ride. I love this world. It's just a wild, wild, wild place. And it's only going to get fucking weirder next episode. Hope you enjoyed it. If you want to ever reach out to us, you know, talk to us, leave leave suggestions.

Luminati pod subreddit is the best place to go do that. It's always filling with new stories every day and from UFO encounters to ghosts, all kinds of stuff. And if you want to reach out to us personally on Twitter, I am at Mathis Games on Twitter. Alex is at Fosse on a a and Jesse is at Jesse Cox. And the podcast itself has a Twitter Luminati pod. I hope you I hope you enjoyed this, Alex.

Did I say for you? I know for Jesse, there's like a lot that he learned or didn't didn't know. But did you know most I know about Albert Bender and the Men in Black story? I've heard it before. I know about the Men in Black. But this is the first time that I ever knew about the element of Albert K. Bender being like a total like, you know, 50 he goes to like the like he buys the like he goes to like the Necromancer store and buys the like stuffed jackalope and puts it in his menagerie and like likes that.

People come over and vibe out on weird stuff. That makes this story so much more interesting to me because that's like a because he's a person. You get like that relatable person. You can see yourself. He's literally like the main character of a movie about a guy who, you know, goes to goes and has like a crazy alien encounter. He's like the exact guy you want it to happen to.

Yeah. Sorry, you were lagging super hard there. You froze. Oh, I was just saying he's the exact guy that you would want like this type of story to happen to in a movie. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Yeah. The guy you want to root for the underdog, the nerd who's too shy and keeps it to himself, but he's got to like hyper interest.

It's good stuff. Jesse, how long is this fucking mantra? Homie? Oh, sorry, I have to repeat stuff. I'm ready. You guys were just talking. All right. Oh, yeah, yeah, let's drop it into the. OK, home.

Yeah, yeah, I'll copy and paste it. Oh, good. OK, yeah. I want to copy it so it's in the description. That's for that. That's for the people at home. Home. Attention, extraterrestrial beings watching mankind. Attention, extraterrestrial beings watching mankind. We don't want trouble.

We don't want trouble. We will, however, take a ride in your cool ship, though. Also, are you DTF? That's that's our mantra. Just say that over and over again. That sulfur. No, also. Oh, no, it's just my. I could you not.

My grandma put two hard boiled eggs in the microwave for two minutes the other day. She never had a hard boiled egg. Like just like wasn't in her like wheelhouse. And my uncle and aunt are like living there while they move to like they're in beautiful house in a wine country. So she like grabbed two hard boiled eggs out of the fridge

and just chuck them in the microwave. And they just exploded. Smelled like shit. Oh, my God. I guess the other day I got chicken. I got chicken wings that were a Caribbean jerk chicken. And I put them in the microwave for a little too long. And I gasped myself. You like pepper spray.

You started coughing. I started coughing violently. I pulled about the microwave and it was like it got in my face. And I was like like violently coughing. I was sick the whole day. My nose wouldn't stop running. I was done. So, you know, don't don't do that, kids.

Lesson on February 5th at 9. 9 PM at 9 PM. Pacific PST. We're all going to say the message that is in the description of this podcast. And it is going to be called Sea Day. But in this case, the Sea Day stands for Chiluminati or Hell. You know what, brother?

It stands for come, OK? And you guys can think about that as much as you want or as little as you want. And I'm sorry to everybody who got their parents to listen to the show because of how gross this episode was. They made you. They know what's up. That's right. It made you. Come on.

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