Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 44 - Hollow Sun (?) Theory

Episode Date: March 21, 2020

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Get 20% off your purchase at bombus.com slash Spotify. Welcome, welcome everybody to the Chilluminati podcast, episode 44. As always, I am your host, Mike Martin, join my two co-hosts, Jesse Cox, already looking disappointed in today's episode and he barely even knows what is about to befall him. I'm the general, Jesse. How you doing? How you doing, Jesse? Well, I mean, I can't tell if I have corona or don't.

I don't. Okay, great. I know nothing. I don't think I have a cold. Then I woke up today with like a runny nose that went away immediately. I'm like, is that a symptom? Oh, great. And then I like coughed once today.

I'm like, is that a symptom? You might have the mildest of mild forms or whatever. You know, who knows? I'm worried about that. They literally like sometimes people don't show any signs. I'm like, what does that mean? So yeah, I'm terrified that I will infect every person on planet earth. So I've been at home.

Good stuff. The only interaction I had today was with a nice woman who left a sandwich and chips at my door, knocked and then waved to me. Oh, adorable. That's all the interaction I've had today. God bless. Yeah, God exact. God bless.

That's adorable. I'm trying to be very like, you know, speaking of, I, I, go ahead, no, I just like, I'm trying to be good. No, it's good. I don't want to interact with people. I bought things at the grocery store. That's what I was terrified. I bought a little extra, not much.

I didn't really want to. I didn't do the like hoarding thing or any of that, but I did buy a little extra food to last me like an extra week or so. I bought some bacon at seven 11. Wait, we haven't gotten to you yet. All right. Shut up, Alex. Okay.

I, I, the problem is, is I got like sucker. I think I watched a bunch of Netflix shows and the overall, the overall message of all of them, because they're all food related shows, the overall message of all of them was like, you know, we just eat too much meat and we should celebrate meat when we eat it. I'm like, oh no. So now I went to the grocery store and was just like, you know what, I'm going to get like veggie stuff. I'm going to make vegetables and things.

I'm going to try and then only two days a week, I'm going to just get really good meat. I'm going to try and live that life. Yeah. No, I made it. I made it to Friday, uh, since Monday and was like, I need a sandwich or like bread with some. Oh yeah. So I ordered a sandwich.

I was like, get me a song. Yeah. I just went into it. Well, I'm glad you quarantine because there are other, our other hosts, Alex might just have Corona. I might. I might. I don't know.

My chest is tight. I, I can't sleep. It's horrifying. Uh, but I, I'm fine. Like I'm here. You're dedicated. You're dedicated. Yeah.

I'm having a little, but I don't know because here's the thing. I always get seasonal allergies at this time and it's the exact symptoms of this fucking troll ass virus that sucks. That's not good. I hope you don't have this. I could be, everything could be happening totally normally right now. And I still have the same symptoms. So I don't, I don't know.

Can I ask you guys a question? Yeah. Does, does milk mess you up? Yeah. Yes, but I'm lacked. I've discovered I've become lactose intolerant over the years. Here's my problem. I have not for, I'm going to say five years had like cereal for breakfast.

I simply haven't. I have either made a little breakfast sandwich or had a bagel or made toast and moved on with my day very, very quickly. Cereal is kind of like you pour it and then you're sitting there eating this damn thing for like 20 minutes. And so I, because I'm home and I was like, you know what, I'm going to get cereal and milk and now I don't know if it's messing with me because I'll eat it and then I'll be like, what is going on?

My, something feels weird. Am I sick? Am I sick? I don't know what I've changed so much since I've been forced to be home that I can't tell what is wrong with me and what's just like I'm stuck at home. Old age has made me lactose intolerant. Like ever since I ticked over 30 those years ago, like my stomach just can't do what it used to do.

Things just make me upset in the morning in particular. Like it's very sensitive. It's just rough. I can't even eat. I can't even eat cheez-its. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God.

It's awful, dude. I can't even eat. Like the, the serving of cheez-its, which is like 25 cheez-its. I'm just like, that's it. But here's the thing, all the, all the takeout food, it's all bad for you. It's like, it's like too much food and it makes me sleepy. And everything that happens to me now, I'm like, I have coronavirus. It sucks.

It's not good. It sucks. You, you both are in California. California is in a full lockdown now, right? Yes. Yeah. Is that me? Is there, is there people flying in or out?

Is there any flying still? No. No. No. I, every flight that I had, even though I canceled them, I still got emails that were like, the flight is canceled. Yeah. Literally the airlines, I think 70% of all flights have been canceled.

Yeah. Totally. You can't do anything in California. The only thing you can do, I think, is you can go to the store. You can still go for a walk, but you can't like be near anyone when you're outside and you can't gather. Restaurants are closed. Gyms are closed.

Pretty much you can get groceries and weed and that's it. Yeah. Excellent. That's all you need. Literally, that is absolutely true. I'm not saying it was my dad. Someone, no name, went and got 30 days worth of work. I applaud this man.

$4,000 worth. $4,000 worth. I might have gotten the photo maybe from my mother or someone else who knows. Yeah. And it literally was like, I was going to message you, Alex, and be like, this is a pothead. That's awesome. That's awesome.

It was insane. I was like, whoa. So. I'm too scared. I was most scared. It's so crazy to me. It is. It's wild.

That's what's open. Grocery stores, weed stores, banks, and I think one other thing is open. Pharmacies. And that's it. Like that's it. Yeah. Everything else is closed. I feel like that guy who voices Piglet in that Twilight Zone episode where he's like

the last man on earth and he has all the books. All the time in the world. And then his glasses break because like in a world where I'm locked inside my house and I'm and everybody's like video games and anime, I am like, I want to smoke weed so bad. And this disease is like you die if you can't breathe. So yeah, get hype. And I'm like, great.

This is great. I'm just going to like come down off of I'm going to just like come down off of my like all the time weed part though is being in like sort of nerd circles. A lot of the problems associated with COVID and things that can happen to you are also like nerd. Like, oh yeah, if you have asthma or diabetes or like all these things, like if you have weakened immune systems, if you're inside all the time, you definitely have a weakened immune system already.

Yeah. They're like, I can't wait to be inside all day. It's like, oh no, we're all do you make a joke out of this, but this is bad. It's no wonder. It's no wonder. Everybody thinks it's like a conspiracy. It's so it's so it's so like upsetting in in these like weird little ways, but I'm alive. You're alive.

We're alive. I'm not feeling like, you know, I'm not like laid out. I'm okay. Like we're doing fine. Chiluminati is here. We're going. We're cracking along. If this is your last episode, then I'm so glad it is this episode that you're going

out on. But hopefully it's not because we're only $2,000 away from weekly episodes at patreon.com slash Chiluminati pod. She wrote your ass off real quick. He was like, yo, bye. Dude, I keep that was an incredible segue. I can't. You gotta believe it.

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keep up to date. There's a box of comic books on my bed. My house is so small. Help me. There really is. Well, I don't really... Are we ready? I'm here.

I'm ready. This is it. This is it. Let's do it. I'm not ready for this. Today, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, those who do not identify as either and all inclusive other things that I may have missed, we're finishing the trilogy today. The space trilogy that we started a long, long time ago comes to a conclusion.

First, there was Hollow Moon. The Emperor laughs at the end. Yeah. No one's ever really gone. Then there was Hollow Earth. We only one left is Hollow Sun. And so... What?

We venture into the world. I told you this was stupid. I told you stupid. Hollow Sun today. And if you thought Hollow Moon or Hollow Earth was even a little stupid, I am not able to prepare you for what is about to hit your ears today. This is... Let me just say something.

This is hurt to research. Incredibly hard. As someone who does not believe in Hollow Earth or Hollow Moon. At least Hollow Moon had like the bell thing and it had some mystery behind it. Hollow Earth is fun to believe in because there's sort of a sci-fi element and land of the lost like that kind of thing. This is genuinely an impossibility. I mean, cannot be.

I mean, look, if you think about it, compared to the Earth or the Moon, the Sun as we learned in science class, astronomy or whatever at the observatory of truth, they say that the Sun is gas. And that's like a lot closer to Hollow. I mean... Yeah? You're doing this on a technicality? Sure.

A hollow ball of billions and billions and billions degrees. Yeah. Sure. So... And anything in it would burn up instantly? Well, maybe, maybe not. Depending on the level of technological advancement your species may have. Okay, I'm listening.

Go on. But this one is a painful one because they're really... So you may ask, where's the spurred from? As Jesse said, the bell from the Moon or just the enjoyment of like the cave systems of Earth and whatnot and people not understanding that in earlier times. The thing that spurred this back on, or at least this on for me, was the mini-sode from last week. A little bit about the Ezekiel's wheel, the UFO that peeked out and disappeared again.

And so looking into that, there were a couple of posts, whether you want to call them articles or not, is entirely up to interpretation. But talks about how this proves that if the Sun isn't necessarily hollow, it is being used by the aliens in some way to harness its power for their own devious and or beneficial means. Jesse... Doesn't that have a name though? Doesn't that have like an actual name where they put something around?

You talk about Dyson Spheres? Yeah, like a Dyson Spheres, but that is you're harnessing the energy of the Sun, not your deep inside of the Sun. And a Dyson Spheres is usually external, correct. But there is the positive theory that there is a reverse Dyson Spheres on the inside of the Sun that's harnessing most of the energy to a central point. But since it's on the inside, it stays like an X number of miles or whatever within the Sun.

And they use that as either a power focus or a transportational system, a warp type system where they bend space time to move quickly between planets that have other Suns. But that... We're not there yet. Don't look at me like that, Jesse, don't look at me, Alex, don't stop. That's not how Suns... Suns, there's a fuel source. It is burning off the fuel source.

Sure, sure, sure, sure. It's the reason why... So you say, so you say. So you say. So I say! Oh my God. Oh my God. The two, these two are crazy people.

You're crazy. Alex is giving me air quotes. I can't... Alex has frozen an air quote vote for me. Okay, he's back. He's back. He's back. I can't handle this.

I hate both of you so much. Okay. Jesse, aren't you so glad you agreed to this podcast two years ago? You know, two years, boy. Do you feel more enlightened now? I feel something. Two years. Oh, yes.

I feel gassy. So, since the subject of Hollow Sun is so difficult and narrow and niche, there's a couple of other theories of aliens using our sun that are going to be sprinkled in here to fill out this Hollow Sun episode because, surprisingly or unsurprisingly, there's no theories of Nazis that seem to live in the Hollow Sun. There's no magical utopia within the Hollow Sun, maybe. That's because it presupposes a structure that is the size... Exactly.

It's very, very difficult. It's the size it's impossible to even comprehend with your brain how big it is. If they have the technology, right, to resist the heat that the sun does produce and they're able to get within the center of the sun and then they're able to build within there, it would be the ultimate cover, would it not? It's so hot. It's its own defense system. But it's more like it's under the surface.

Just under the surface of the sun, though. We're not talking about, like, something that can fit like many Jupiters inside. Sure, positive that. This is just, imagine just being able to do even that, the insane things that you could accomplish. Jesse... They do that in the X-Men. This has changed wildly.

Yeah. Well, speaking of hot, get ready for this. Oh, shoot. I, for some reason, thought the right thing to Google was Alien Sun. And it turns out that a actress who is also Miss Singapore Universe, who represented Singapore at Miss Universe in 1994, her name is Pauline Sun, but she also goes by Alien Sun. So there you go. How?

Interesting. And that's what I found out. I believe that over any other alien sun. Have always been there, don't you see? The aliens have been injecting themselves on both the metaphorical and literal levels into our society. They're all, they're everywhere. So she was an Ichi the killer.

All right, sorry. What we're going to do is we're going to cover the, what I would consider the most believable theory in all of this insanity and its nonsense. And I will stand forward and say this is all nonsense. Okay. This is called the reverse Dyson sphere or the light bridge theory as to what they're using the sun for. Now we talked a little bit about the reverse Dyson sphere already, the idea of them building

a Dyson sphere beyond the surface of the sun and harnessing its power in some way. The light bridge theory posits that there's a mirror or a focus situated somewhere between Earth and Mars that is able to take the light of the sun that is being emitted and then focus it like a huge effing laser and beam it across millions and millions and millions and millions and millions of miles of space through light years of space. Now you might be asking why, why would you do that? Because they would you do that? There you go.

Thank you. Because they need the sun's energy to power the generational interstellar ships that they have launched from their home planets to travel across space. And each one of these interstellar generational ships are like many planets in and of themselves and they need the power of the sun because they don't have the ability to store enough energy on their ships to power their ships indefinitely. And so this object that they've been able to create as they somehow traveled to our solar system to create in some way is the the source of it, that the generational ships

that arrived in our solar system first, I guess, would have built the ones that are being used now as other generational ships are passing through space. And that's what they're using our sun for our sun for. Now what's interesting is that while it seems silly, it's not theoretically impossible to create something that can hyper focus something like a laser. We ourselves have created a laser that has such a small variation or differentiation in how it travels that hit the moon and was only creating a four mile wide beam when it hit.

So we can transmit light, you know, thousands and thousands and thousands of miles away and still keep it relatively focused. So if there was some sort of advanced civilization within our solar system and had the resources necessary, perhaps because they built a reverse license here within our sun to live through whatever and then harness it through this laser situated between Earth and Mars, I guess it is technically possible. So one of them, OK, so this in this theory, the sun is the sun, the sun is the sun, but there is like technology there that's like turns the sun basically into a gas station.

It turns the sun into a it takes the light of the sun and hyper focuses like a laser. And then you get to it. And then that laser is hitting generational starships. What that means is like, you know, start for maybe those who don't know, just like generational starships means ships that are going to travel over the course of hundreds of years. And in many like a world, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so that's the only thing that could power something like that. So the generational ships who got to our solar system, they were powered maybe by their first

son or the second son or whatever system they've gotten to, then built another one to power the next one to be sent off and continue to travel the stars in that regard. So it's like a relay. Oh, yeah, it's like a relay, that's a better way. And where's the evidence for this? I don't. Then there you have it. OK, great.

Have evidence when you have faith. Yes. You can't just. All right. Inside the sun is a dragon and the sun is just an egg. And my evidence is that I one time had a dream that that was true. And I know it to be true. People call that a revelation.

Yes, it might be just a revelation. Jesse, that might not have been a normal dream that we saw the generational ship passing over the sun to eclipse it before NASA actively cut the feed so we couldn't see the truth before. So that so Ezekiel's wheel was the was the world ship. And in like in March of 2020 is when the world ship finally arrived. The generational starship rolled into our solar system for their like refuel. Or are they are they moving everyone from their ship to another ship that's ready to

go already? What are we? What are we talking about here? What is it? We don't know why. Because they're aliens. We don't know why they're doing it. Yeah, you know what?

That's true. I can't. I don't know what their intents are. Yeah, I've seen the arrival. I get it. Yeah, there you go. Exactly. So what you're saying is Hollywood has taught you well, Alex, and we already know that's

the best fountain of knowledge you could ever ask for. Our solar system is, you know, like when you're dry, Alex, when you're like driving up the five to San Francisco, I'm there. Hang on. I'm there. There's a lot of stops along the way and most of them you're like, I don't really want to stop there. It seems like nothing's around here.

So what you're saying is our solar system is like that one stop that's like, we have the best piece of soup. No. And so they're driving by. They're going to the gas station. Yeah, they're going to the gas station and then moving on to go to a different, more popular. It's more like the people up in the hills who are just like, there's just a turn sign

that just is like humans this way, refuel here. It's like when you're about to go into a national forest or something like that. And they're like, this gas station right here, it's the last one you're going to see for 75 miles. Oh my God, dude. Oh my God. That's what's abducting the people in the national forest. The aliens are coming off.

You think the aliens are literally stopping at that gas station? No, they're coming by our solar system and they're paying a little money to abduct a human. The thing you do when you come by this part of the town, we're like, we're like a chilly pistachios that you buy on the way to Vegas. Capitalism is everywhere, even beyond Earth. Yeah. And so we're like a, we're like handmade beef jerky or something like that.

Yeah. And there's like an alien or two that runs the shop and they're just like, where are y'all headed? Well, you gotta use this bathroom key. Well, I mean, look, that sounded pretty sensible, you know, so what are the crazy ones? What if I told you that the sun and the reason the alien activity is so rampant on Earth is because- Well, how would you know if you're stuck in your house all day, Jesse?

How would you know, Aileen, whether or not the hollow sun theory is true, let us not bring into question abduction scenarios and those who have gone through them. I'm questioning it. I am questioning it right now. How dare you? How dare you? I want to put all of them on lie detectors. Let's make it happen.

What if it's because our sun and other suns like it, our sun is the yellow, yellow classification, is it? Yeah, crap. We have a yellow sun. Correct. I've watched Superman. Thank you. Thank you.

And because of that, it provides just the right amount of energy to create a sort of device. Maybe we could call it a, a hesitant to call it like a teleportation system, but you know, something akin to- Like a Stargate? Yeah, or like a maybe like a Mass Effect Relay, something along those lines, something similar like that. Because it's, but only the amount of energy that the yellow sun is able to produce. Either within the sun itself, there is a theory that within the sun, there's the reverse

Dyson Sphere. And at the center of the reverse Dyson Sphere is actually the device that helps spend space time to allow interstellar travel to be instantaneous. Like that's how they get around, you know, light going faster than light speed and so on. Through suns? Yes. Yes.

And so- It's bad ass to be sure. There's a place that many, many of them use and there's already one within set up within that they use to, you know, go to and from and help travel the far reaches of the galaxy because we're quite far out from the center. May I remind you? And so we're maybe just, maybe we're in, we're super interesting for them to watch because we're so far out, we're still so primitive.

And that's why we're so like constantly being observed by so many different species. Because we're special. Not that we're special, we're just young and dumb. I like that. That feels like accurate to me. We're like evolving animals that are, they're interesting, they're interested just to watch. Now it doesn't explain why grays keep trying to jerk us off, but it's interesting nonetheless. You're obsessed with this, obsessed.

Because it's the, it's like one of the most common things that happens in gray abductions. It's true. Always. It's, it's bar none, like one of the most common things. So yeah, it's bizarre. Did you make a deal? And grays are the most commonly seen alien when it comes to either encounters beyond abductions or just like, like seeing them in a craft or seeing them on the ground.

There's a story of a guy who was in his car at night and grays were trying to get him and they couldn't figure out how to get the, make, like operate the door handle. They just like was beyond them. And so he said he was seeing fire, like his car was on fire, but he knew it was fake, and they kept trying to like get him to believe that his car was on fire so that he'd get out of the car cause they couldn't figure out how to get to him. I see. What?

Yeah. Isn't that like, like they were like shooting holograms onto his car. They were like, oh shit. Waving him. Yeah. And he was like, he knew it wasn't real, but it was so real. And so like, cause they couldn't figure out how to get to him cause grays are weird. There's so many different stories of grays who can't figure out how to operate simple things

like door handles. It's so weird. Did you ever appeal to the devil? No. No. I would never do that. I was like, good boy. A good boy?

You were literally like Satan. If I could just fly. Well, I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. You were literally like Satan. If I could just fly, I would be Panayani. Well, I know.

To be fair, I ask God first. I gave him his chance. That's true. He went to God first. I didn't go to God first. He asked Mom. And then when Mom said, no, he went to Dad. Yeah, go for the fun one.

Yeah, you know, you're going to get grounded way worse later when you go to Dad because when Mom finds out- Dad's not doing as good of a job. He's not parenting as well, but he's trying to please. You know what I mean? He's trying to make it happen. Well, you know, but that's the other theory that I guess you could call the most scientifically Scientifically believable No, you couldn't why not

What you just said is not scientifically I mean if you put three things on a paper one of them is the most believable I'm sorry my opinion was the most believable You know what you're right comparatively To all the other insane thing you're saying comparatively you're right word choice is important. I'm sorry the gas station wrong The gas station theory is better Than the start game of like It's like a game of stelaurus. We just come across like a really resource rich planet But you don't want to deal with the locals so you just

Exit you just like squeeze the solar system for what it's worth and just like oh, let's check in on the on the locals Let's see how far they've evolved in the past hundred years No to niche to niche of a reference. All right, I tried still errors. There's like I love I love stelaurus All right, I'm a big fan of these types of games. I understood that game. Are you kidding me? Oh, come on 4x like grand strategy. You like sieve Jesse. You would love those. I'm there. Give it a chance We're not saying what are you talking about? We're not saying there's nothing wrong with it. All right. You're right I just own a Mac. So I just don't have yeah All right, so Jesse you said something that I didn't want to spoil too early

But when you when you spoke of something You hit a theory almost right on the head you like you hit the nail kind of crooked you made it a little jagged Don't tell me this has to do with Miss Singapore universe It does not it does not it's dumber than that Dragon egg it is that the Sun is actually a giant egg What? And that that is not true That's not a real thing

The core is made of hydrogen gas ball. I didn't say we have studies that show the deep inside like hey It's hydrogen gas. We have studies being proved wrong all the time a sirens Explores and advances and we learn of new chemicals and things that are and are not possible Yeah, remember when they used to put thumbs on the dinosaurs wrong the Sun could be an egg. Oh My god, oh my god, okay, maybe you just short. Maybe they just didn't look hard enough I Really? They used to the Sun could be an egg. I want that as a quote

I'm so bad. I don't have to do hollow anything after this ever egg I just know there's no like I look there's like no hollow Mars like this is the last of it I'm so happy hollow Mars like that's that's like Every theory of Mars having aliens on it is like it's hollow because that's the only explanation of like where the fuck the aliens are Yeah, well, yeah, there's bases on like inside and shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but like we My god, so not necessarily a dragon egg But more of an egg of some import whether it be in this is the best we've got an Ancient species of alien that is going to take thousands and thousands of years to gestate and birth and become one and when that happens

That's when like the Sun explodes and it wipes out the solar system and the reason again the evidence is So many aliens keep showing up anywhere near our planet There has to be a reason and this seems to be kind of the pivot point for a lot of people who Want to believe in aliens and alien abductions But kind of don't want to believe that humans are important But still want to believe that there must be something important here to draw the aliens And so that they find there's this thing where they believe that maybe this egg is being safeguarded in some way that these These species of aliens are not here to do war with us

In fact that their scientific experiments on us are purely that scientific and out of curiosity But they are all part of a treaty a treaty that guards this egg And they have to all come, you know, they're all in and out and whatnot and that's the reason they're they're all abducting us and stuff What is that egg? What is it going to birth? Bloody effin knows baby got not the important part here The important part is that the mystery is exciting and the evidence we have is thin Much like the outer shell of the egg of the baby God

Shell eventually poke through maybe it'll be like God Do you think like it's the baby version of like the Christian God that's in there? It's you know, I Hope I actually hope not. Yeah, I know me too I hope not when you were talking about like the gobs All I all I saw was fern gully villain when he's like the smoke and oil as he's coming out of like all the pipes and stuff Oh, that's like oozes itself out out of out of the sun like when it burns. It's just evil, but it's singing villain It's Tim Curry's voice. Yeah, that was the case and he came out. He was like

Mathis, I guess that's my Tim Curry my office I'm going to give you flying Would you be fine with that? But would earth be destroyed? Yeah, but you could fly away Without earth like what point is there? Where am I going to go? I stopped to deal with the vacuums I got to deal with the vacuum I can't travel faster than light speed. So I'm just gonna be in the void forever. I like I like that theory

I like the theory that the Sun is an egg. That's like pure like Jack Kirby like 1960s comic book sci-fi that is like I love that theory So one other the latter but how are there more there's one more one more. There's one more One more listen, dude. I had to dig so deep. You're going to listen to all of it because it's all I got Okay, this one's interesting and I don't know if you've heard of this one before But it's probably way more popular than I'm giving a credit for

But what if the Sun isn't any of that What if the Sun so far is just the center of an atom Microscopic on a much more macro level You know and then life on our particular and then we're like in a marble. Yeah, and they're like What is anything and then we're like in a locker at an airport first giant Dude, I'm trying Fascinating right it's a little fascinating in that there's the orbiting aspect But that's just that in my view that just speaks to how physics work

It's very philosophy one-on-one. Yeah, what it is because it's if you think about it truly We are specs within the universe right of course and our little thing it makes up a bigger thing Which makes up a bigger thing, but that's how Everything's created. Yeah, literally it all works that way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like that's how everything works Universal on this forum. This was a big conversation and There were some minds blown and I want to give them credit For thinking on it most L Dutch was a big one L Dutch was the one that had that theory Congratulations L Dutch and that's a username

The comments Well, the ones were basically the ones that I was telling you before where they break down the lasers and all that other stuff Where they're talking about the more realistic ones, but they talk about this one specifically what were the comments on this one specific? They laughed at it or ignored it. I Mean, that's why I believe this one the most I believe this one the most I think this guy Here's the thing. It sounds like he smoked a bunch of weed and like had that for he had that like that mine Blowing moment made up of atoms Everybody's gonna have it dude. Everybody's gonna have that moment where they got to think to themselves

I'm just a brain in a meat suit like if that was if I just blew your mind right now. Yeah, you're welcome I popped your weed she'd like philosophy cherry. It's like what's that guy's name Descartes? This is all just comes back to Descartes where it's like yeah, it doesn't really matter like If we are just in an atom, right? Yeah That just means that whatever we know as our existence just happens to exist in a bigger atom and Like whether or not it you know, there's no there's no like revelation there Like it's not like and now that we know this That it's the same thing as like a simulation or a dream like you're always dreaming

It's like if you're always dreaming it doesn't matter because that's what your existence is That's all you know, that's your reality to you that is real just like I yelled at you last week In the coffee shop. Yeah, exactly. Does that dude who was like drink silver new? Yeah, but it's reality is subjective and Everyone has a different reality and you cannot tell someone what their reality is and Like that you can tell them what's real or not, but to them they can completely deny it because some people's realities are Bonkers town insane and that's fine. That's totally fine and that base like philosophical idea Ties into greater things like I'm we've brought up before what chaos magic is or the idea of

The secret quote-unquote the idea that you change your reality by forcibly doing it in in a way It's just kind of a belief system to get you to motivate yourself to do the right thing or do the thing you want to do or accomplish the thing You want to accomplish whether or not it's more than that, you know, it's weird It's funny because the Sun is like such a Good like metaphor for this, but it's something we always talk about on here about how like The theories that begin to stink always are the ones where it's like it makes us like the most important Thing yes, you know what I mean, and so things like chaos magic things like the secret things like what's the what's the one called that's like

Quantum immortality want to mean mortality. Yeah, it's like It doesn't fucking matter if that's true at that point because at that point like you're if you are the main character of life And you're the only one who's gonna live forever and Whatever like what what what is that change about how you're gonna live your life right now? You know other than you're gonna try and kill yourself maybe and then you're gonna just like die You know what I mean, and then either you die or in your reality You don't die and you continue on because a universe splits off from that moment Right, it's just funny because the Sun is literally the center of everything that we revolve around and being like

There's an egg. Yeah. Yeah, or being like there's an atom Well, isn't it fascinating too that the most detailed and most thought out and studied and in Written about theories are all theories about hollow earth and hollow moon because we are very much the focus of all of it What but this is I think is the next phase Which is like you think this is the beginning of something greater Well, I think it I think this goes back to what Alex is saying, which is like Hollow earth hollow moon is very human centric right revolves around us being so important. That's some that Some extraterrestrial or something about us or something special about our world

Do you before you move on act out of curiosity? Jesse? Do you believe that the theory the theories of alien abductions because we are like Scientifically interesting like we're an evolving species and nothing more than that. No does that put us at like special level to you? No, I I think That I agree with every sci-fi trope that aliens look at us like oh Flashback I agree. I kind of agree. Yeah, they're so disgusted with us Like I can't believe you get hurt so easily and you are like filled with blood and guts like that's so gross I um I think the idea of moving from hollow earth to hollow Sun or hollow moon to hollow Sun

It's one of those things that it's a sneaky way of Still doing we're important But without it seeming like we're important right because the Sun and oh, it's so big and the aliens But it's still our solar system for some reason our solar system is super important compared to the many many other solar systems out there, which is Truthfully, and it's just as insane as saying our planet or us as a species We're it is us trying to find meaning in Something that may in fact be meaningless

And so you have to derive your own meaning and it can't just be like because the aliens need us for something Yeah, that's not how that works Alex you look like you're about to say something so I just I it's basically what I was gonna say is it's just like I don't know like stuff like this. You're just pie in the sky like Yeah, you like who there's no like with at least with hollow earth or with like you know something like the reptilians Something like that you like there's at least you know everybody's seen that video where they're like Obama It's neat us because they Human meat as well, you know right right that we're like livestock for them right like the here's the thing

I'd believe that shit over like well They need us because we're the only ones that can save their species. I would be way more open to believing that. Oh, yeah We just taste delicious Yeah, I know to serve man. Yeah, yeah, I know we just handed it off what you said Alex and I apologize But no, no, it's the theory about like the grays making us important. I think the most The way they make that lesson is significant Isn't that it's all about us, but there's the theory that it's just future humans who have fucked up so bad They need past us to fix their mistakes. I'm starting to get there. I'm starting to believe that at this point, right?

It's just like all really bizarre, but That's it. That's all there is on on hollow Sun But I know and I know people have been chomping chomping chomping at the bit for skin walker ranch I promise you it is coming. We're almost there I would love to know what listeners think about hollow Sun because I imagine it's a stretch for most people Oh God, I hope I love if people had like other theories that were a little more down to earth or they were like well here's what I think because What what we have science that says Sun Sun's collapse we have but at a certain point

Suns become black holes Didn't they just just there is there is a hole? Yeah, they well they think they made them. They may have yeah I mean, but the idea of okay, this is a thing that powers the Like it gives us life literally the Sun was a god to human beings or centuries Because it gave us life and during the day we were saved from predators. So This thing that exists that made us come into being yeah, um eventually reverts in on itself and

destroys all life around it Fascinating how does it do that like that? Yeah. Yeah, how does it do that? Why does it do that like we we know just enough to know that? Eventually will become a black hole But you know, there's even a black hole at the center of the Milky Way Mm-hmm, and how did that happen and what is that for and slowly we're all being sucked toward it, right? So it's fascinating because then where does that go right? It has to there has to be an exit, right? Yeah, and then there's

Who knows who knows well a lot of fascinating things a lot of actually like getting into like though the The black hole stuff Theories of that's where a lot of theories of like how time breaks down start coming to popping up is like because you start Getting pulled apart and like time has no meaning anymore and like it was black holes just warp everything From space time like now. I know people would talk about the movie interstellar But I say nay the TV show the Kevin Sorbo TV show andromeda is much better. I've never seen it So it's one of those cheesy shows that was on like after Xena It is straight up just they get a ship gets trapped in the sort of pool of a

Black hole and many many I'm gonna say hundreds of years go by question mark I don't know time goes by because they're trapped there and they finally get out and Same thing but but but I love the idea that time is such a construct that when you get Towards a black hole. It's like meaningless Well, it's just like it's just like we keep moving the goalposts, you know Like you look at these like Native American stories that are like the sky is a blanket And there's holes in the blanket and that's stars. Yeah, and then once we figured that out We're like, oh no that we're a planet and there's space. They're like oh and in space where we are the center

That's where the gods are is up in space or like, you know above us somewhere in the heavens And then when we were like oh, but there's like a lot of different planets And it's way bigger than that and now we're like there's magic on the other side of a black hole We're like there's a dragon egg inside the Sun like it's all just like Stuff that's on the boundary of what it's possible for us to actually categorically know you know what I mean And I think that's cool, and I think like honestly like as much as I like Typically side with Mathis a lot of the time with these kind of creepy weird theories and stuff like that like

To be honest with you the reason that all this stuff interests me most is because it's all just like our mythology now You know what I mean? Yeah, like all these things fascinating can't possibly figure out It's just stuff that like I I think is awesome And I and I think about it in the same way that I think about those like origin stories that people tell or like the story of like You know Zeus like turn in some lady into a Swan or whatever like I don't know you know just like stuff like that It's it's it feels like it feels the same as that we have these we have a language that we tell each other things with you know I mean, yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, I agree. It's fascinating

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