Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 47 - Minisode Compilation I

Episode Date: April 18, 2020

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So, if you're listening to these and thinking you want more, head over to Patreon.com slash Illuminati Pod. The next mini-sode is almost as long as the main episode clocking in in about 49 minutes. It's a lot of stuff to take in. We hope to see you there, and thank you all so much for your support. Hello patrons and welcome to the very first mini mini-sode. We don't really have a title for these. Let's call them mini-men. Let's call them mini-men. Mini-men? Because they're not boys, they're men. What is it? Growing up. Not too old. Whatever the hell this is that they are now singing because I don't get the reference. No, it's the men. ABC, BBD. I got it now. That's all. I need to hear the one line that is famous from that song. Whatever this is, welcome to it where we, the hosts

of Illuminati Pod, talk about some crazy headlines of the past week or month or so out in the world of the paranormal UFO or something bizarre, and we just fucking talk about it and say thank you for your support and we love you a lot. Hell yeah. I've got something about UFOs. Alex has something about wildlife, and Jesse is here to tell us we're wrong. All right. You want to go first? You want me to go first? You go first. All right. This. Mine's more general, more broad. For sure. This article comes from Paul Seibern at mysteriousuniverse.org on February 21st who wrote mysterious 10-foot humanoid reportedly rips leg off of deer in a hull. Okay, and I have a quote. Hull England? In North Lincolnshire, yeah. That's where, that's where Dean lives. There you go. He lives up there.

Oh, Dean. This one's for you, buddy. Look out for this guy. He's coming for your legs. He thought it was a ghost at first. He could see it had a humanoid form, but it was darker than night, and it just moved across the road. And what? The guy's name is Finchie McFinch. Finchie McFinch. No. Yeah. And he said he saw, he said he saw something crossing the road that was about 10 feet tall. He went back the following day and found a hole that it might have run through in the hedge. And he saw something that he thought was really weird at the exact place where that happened, which was he found two deer legs sitting in the middle of the road. And there's a picture of it on this other article, which I will send to you now so that you can. Oh my God. Is it the

England Sasquatch? So that you may see these images. Go ahead and follow this bowler hat and everything. He's got one. He's very dapper, but check out those two deer legs right there at the top of that article. I see those two deer legs. There they are. The quote is, the picture quality isn't great as it was taken from inside the car because he was just a bit creeped out. You tell people about it and they say it's just poachers. And yes, that does go on, but why would a poacher stop on the eight 18 to butcher a deer carcass? I mean, maybe he's starving to death, dude. And he needs to get food in the system now. Yeah, butcher it, clean it, you know, red dead redemption to style. You just do it on the spot. He says that he thinks other people must have seen it

because of how busy it was. And sure enough, the whole daily found an unnamed elderly couple who also said that they saw the same 10 humanoid creature and neither Finchy Finch, Finchy Mc, neither Finchy McFinch or this anonymous old couple from Hall had anything to say, but Finchy's friend Lee had a few theories. He said south of the river, there's been quite a few sightings of a half deer, half man creature similar to the puka Celtic folklore. That also sounds very similar to a skin walker. Yes. And he said he said also that there's big foot sightings that are in the area up and down the A 15. There you go. And I want to tell you something else. These guys are the host and the co-host of the realm of the supernatural podcast,

Finchy McFinch and Lee Solway, which I don't know what that I don't know what that says about them. I don't know if it's bad. Like, would you, as the host of the Chilluminati podcast, would you take to the Chilluminati pod as your way of reporting actual paranormal activity that happened to you? Listen, I'm telling you right now, if I get ever abducted, ever abducted, it is Chilluminati pod is going to be the first place that I say it. I'd tweet about it first, I think. I might tweet about it. Guys, got abducted, LOL. But here's the thing, because because we have a podcast, nobody would ever believe us. So we're prime abduction material because people are just going to think we're trying to boost our podcast.

Do you think the aliens are listening right now and that they're going to be like, oh, shit, he's right. We should kidnap them. Your whole thing. Yeah, you just want to just get taken. But only by very specific species of aliens. I don't want the reptilians to take me. Right. That's bad news. That'd be crazy. You'd rather go up than down. I'd rather, yeah, like at least with the grays, I have a good chance of them trying to like jack me off. Hell yeah. What is going on in your head? I just, I just roll with it. I think it's good. I think he's being true. What are you talking about? The grays always are gathering seed, looking to, you know, create star children. Maybe the grays be gathering, baby.

They'd be gathering. What do you want? What do you want? Where if it was the Nordics, they'd likely just be here telling me I'm the one they're going to use as like their communication device like they do with every other person that supposedly ever meets a Nordic. So, so check this out. So these guys, as this story happened, just happened to be promoting the fact that they're going to be at the research and witness convention 2020 in Kingston upon the hall, which actually I think already happened this last week. But the reason that I picked this article is because they linked this sighting to a paranormal creature that is known to be in the area that is called Old Stinker. And hang on,

ain't a Google Old Stinker. Old Stinker is also known as the beast of barmston drain. And it's an alleged werewolf that has horrible breath. And the way that the way it's because every story about him, as it mentioned, his horrible breath. Oh my god, there's this picture, this art. He's like a bad ass werewolf dude. He's got red eyes and his mouth is open, but like a yellow, like a reddish like glow is coming out of his mouth. But the article lines. The article brings up the fair point that the Old Stinker is only reported to be eight feet tall and not 10 as finchy mix. Obviously has described maybe just like the Mothman Old Stinker is part of like a family of Old Stinkers.

I, you know, I don't know. But I don't know. These types of stories always freak me out. There's one. Have you ever heard of the Pilling of Princess? Nope. I don't even remember. There's this guy. It's there's some show in Australia that's like a radio show. And this guy came on that was called Bongo. And he. That's right. We listen to this. Yes. This guy came on. It was called Bongo. And he is just not all right. Like he is not fine. Like I have. I think I could probably find the audio recording of it. But man, like big time actual trigger warning. If you don't want to hear someone who is in real distress about this horrible creature that kidnapped him off the side of the road when his truck broke down and took him to

a shack where a bunch of human limbs were hanging on all the walls. Wait, what? Yeah, it's fucking crazy. Let me let me see if I can find it. That's fucking bananas, dude. I don't know. My brain, like the other thing that like this kind of leads into like my my couple of articles that I'm chosen, which are alien related, surprising nobody. But one of the big things that's like a big topic of conversation right now in the end, just kind of like UFO circles is just, well, it's always kind of a topic of conversation. Cattle mutilation or just animal mutilation in like the surgically removed insides of the cattle and the cow's tongue and sometimes their entire anus and genitalia are scooped out. And having like deer legs left on the road kind of just reminds me a little bit

of that, but it's a little bit more, I don't know, gory or rough. Yeah, I I don't know. Like animal mutilations to me are always such a. They're just bizarre. Well, it's always such a mixed bag. Like you look at cattle mutilations for more than a few seconds and you're like, oh, this is just a natural process that people are misunderstanding. But sometimes it's really convincing. The ones that are like the night before, like their cattle was fine in the next morning, it's all scooped out. It's the same thing as the deotlov. Deotlov pass. Yeah, you know, like it's like, yes, there's some elements to it that are scary, but there's also some elements to it that are like, oh, wait, is this just like nature did this? You know what I mean?

Yeah, it just you got to be very careful about the ones that, you know, the ones that are just like the next day. Those are the ones that you have to concern yourself with. What are you looking for right now, Alex? Sorry, I'm trying to find this bongo clip. Why are you looking for that? Boys, aliens are still a thing. I just want you all to know. I don't think I'm ever going to forget. You don't say. Yes, I know. But there's been a lot of like, in the chaos of the election, a lot of UFO news, not big stuff like, oh my God, another video or an interview with this guy, but just little things like congressmen who are running, who are being either like, they believe they're being kind of shut up or there's letters being sent by congressmen demanding

more information on UFOs and it going unresponded or completely ignored. One particular, the Navy specifically said recently that if they if they released files of UFO sightings out into the world, it would damage national, it would damage the security down a national scale. This coming obviously after the UFOs that were leaked recently via the Navy that they that they encountered way out in the middle of the water, the ones from 2017 that were made more public and and thanks to Tom DeLonge of Blink 182 in 2019, the true leader of the alien revolution. It's going to mean Blink 182's lead singer, Tom DeLonge. However, what do you think it is? What do you think that know that news is? What part? Like what briefing? What do you think's in the briefing? Oh, so that

yeah, that's that's interesting. Well, I don't know. So I've thought about that many times in my my my initial thought is it just it just showcases that the the United States Army can't keep up with every threat that shows up and to know that there's that many threats that they just can't keep up with that are just moving too fast or technically like they don't understand how it how it maneuvers that kind of thing. To quote though, yeah, it says a spokeswoman for the Pentagon had also previously told the Black Vault, which is a civilian run archive of government documents, that the videos were quote, never officially released to the general public by the the the Department of Defense and should have still been withheld unquote, the Department of Defense

video show pilots confused by as you've all seen what they're seeing in one video one pilot saying what the fuck is that thing? The term UFO along with others like unidentified aerial phenomenon, which is what the the government is using officially now no longer UFO, it's UAP and unidentified flying object, which is what we're mostly used to used to does not necessarily mean that the object is thought to be extraterrestrial. That's an important thing that I think a lot of people in this, you know, like doing this as a hobby or very fanatic about it, forget like it's really, really, really tempting to just say that thing moves better than any technology we're aware of it must be alien. That's not necessarily the case. Money, many such sightings

ultimately end up having logical and earthly explanations often involving military technology. I just want to take that paragraph right there and say, if that's true, now a single time have they ever come forward and say this is what it is? Sure. And like, don't I don't like so to say that thing just drives me nuts. It's like, sure, you can say that, but they've never said that that's what it is. The only time I can think of it is the weather balloon thing. And even then that's very, very, very debatable, whether it was a weather balloon, secret government technology or something more. Do you think he's fucking with us or that he made a mistake? The the you talking about the weather balloon? Just like the fact that he was like, there are

things that we don't even that will fuck you up. I I well, I think they're just actively hiding what actually going on. I just don't know if it's Aileen or not. Right. The Pentagon spokeswoman Susan Gao also said this week that an investigation into the sightings is still ongoing. Joseph Gradisher, the Navy spoke spokesman for the Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Information Warfare, told the Black Vault last year that, quote, the Navy has not publicly released characterizations or descriptions nor released any hypothesis or conclusions in regard to the object contained in the reference videos, which directly contradicts what they just said a minute ago of like, there's earthly explanations. It's this, it's that. And then the the Navy guy

comes forward is like, we have no fucking idea. Another letter got sent in 2019 that recently got made public by from the sent to the Honorable Mark, the Honorable, quote, Mark Walker, U.S. House of Representatives in July 16th of 2019. And the letter specifically says it's not that long. Uh, there have been a number of reports of unauthorized and or unidentified aircraft entering various military controlled training ranges and designated air spaces in the recent years. The Department of the Navy takes these reports very seriously and continues to log sightings and fully investigate the accounts. The wide proliferation and availability of inexpensive unmanned aerial systems, UAS has increasingly made airspace deconfliction

an issue for our aviators. Drones basically is what he's saying. Drones are a pain and are always going to be a pain, especially now that civilians have access to them. It's just going to make it very difficult to do with their job. Navy and naval air crews have been provided reporting guidance to determine the frequency and locations of UAS operating and training areas. The guidance supports objective data driven analysis of incursions. The DON, which is the Department of the Navy, uh, continues to dedicate resources to the tracking and investigation of reports that could affect the safety of our air crews. Keep in mind, too, we talked about a few out like a month or so ago. Do you remember all those drone sightings that were in various different

states? Yeah, none of that was ever figured out still. It just got, I read a thing about it the other day that I was just like, let go. Go ahead. Look it up. Look it up. And I bet it was figured out. I bet they were like, yeah, no, we don't need to tell people about it. That's also very possible. The public was never informed, rather. The Department of the Navy is aligned with the Department of Defense and interagency partners on this effort. So they're not the only ones working on trying to figure out where these things are coming from and who they are. The defense, the defense of the Navy or Department of the Navy is leveraging established relationships with services other than the DOD offices, the U.S. intelligence community, and the U.S. government

agencies that will help us to better understand these incursions into training areas. We will continue to ensure our efforts are closely coordinated with the organizations in this increasingly complex aviation environment. And then it's just one more paragraph of where, you know, we're committed to doing this and that may be the usual, but that's a letter sent by Thomas B. Moldy to Mark Weller, House of Representatives July 31st is when this was stamped of 2019. And this was made public very recently. So it's already like the government is at least admitting and acknowledging that their training areas are being probed by things they don't know. They can't. They don't know what it is. They they're dedicating multiple

resources to it. And there's still no answer as to what this is. I looked up the drones, by the way. And there's an article from Colorado Public Radio that said that's literally titled from January 31st. What happened to Colorado's mysterious drones? Here's the thing. Nobody knows. Told you. Isn't that crazy? They just disappeared. They just stopped showing up. The drone came close to hitting a flight for live helicopter was a hobbyist's drone unconnected to the mystery. Four sightings confirmed did not find evidence of substantiating reports of large wingspan drones traveling in groups. No idea. We don't know. We don't know. We don't know. Does the government know? That's another

question. We obviously don't know. But what do you think, Jesse, of that letter sent by government official to Congress? Seems pretty legit. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I know. I know. I know. Yeah. Do you think do you think that they use aliens as an excuse sometimes? The U.S. government? I've read that theory multiple times. Absolutely. I believe that more than anything. I think it's easier for them to be like, yeah, here's some BS than to say the real truth, which is which would be more frightening to people because they would see it as real versus aliens as many people don't believe are real. The only thing we do know is that there and clearly other government officials don't know either whether they're just not in the loop, obviously or not,

is that there are things that are flying over not only the sea and our ships and like we have the videos of those but things that are that are flying into our airspace over our country as well. The government's aware of it and they just don't know what it is and whatever they are, they're not attacking. You know what I mean? Right. They're hovering and watching and that's been happening for decades. I heard that Tom DeLong's group has now been budgeted $750,000 to do research, right? They were contracted by the U.S. government. Well, the government bought the stuff from them, right? Yes. They contracted them to have access to all their stuff. Yeah. Like I read the contract a little while ago. Here's the thing. The the the you know, the

grain assault you want to take with that is the government contracts things constantly, like all the time outside companies and stuff doesn't necessarily mean anything. The only reason I kind of put a little bit more weight into this than I do in anything else is because Tom DeLong did release a video that ended up being acknowledged as true. Granted, it happened two years later after he released it. But still we'll see. We will see. We're still in. Listen, we're still in the acknowledgement phase. You know, the government is slowly but surely easing us into the reality. My dad tells me every time I see him, he like right before I leave, he always is like, disclosure is coming. I love you. He's coming. Disclosure is happening. So I

don't know. We'll see. And Jesse, I know you don't believe, but hey, for $10,000, I bet you would. Um, maybe I make no promises. Oh, that was that was well, that's it. That's that's the first little mini so there that there's a couple of things that are happening during the week. You know, I feel like I'll always be able to come to one of these things with some new alien things. So I will personally endeavor not to drag aliens to every single one. I'll bring I'll bring I'll bring a plethora of articles. Let's say that. Yeah, it'll be good times. I already have like a like a little notepad full of articles. Yeah, there's a lot of good that I build anyway. So I'm sure every week I'll find

at least something. There's always something weird happening in the world one way or another. We'll figure it out. We'll find it weird and not real. That's good. You know, weird weird is real. That's what they say. Yeah, yeah, exactly. No, real is how your brain defines it. And on that, weird is real. Raw is war. What? Yeah, real is how your brain interprets what it sees. Real is only as real as your brain says. That is in fact not true. And there are many there are many diseases that that it's simple. Yeah, until Jesse, you bring your own factually packed episode. We are the only ones bringing truth to this podcast. Yeah, here's my factually packed episode information. Hey, gang, wash your hands. There you go. Also true. Wash your hands.

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so much for the support. We'll be back with some new articles with the next one. Goodbye. Peace out, bench. Bye. Hello, hello, everybody. Or should I say hello, hello, Patreon? What's up? First of all, what's up? Thank you for supporting us and listening to us talk about more nonsense that we love. And just a general appreciation for your chipping in and making this something that we can keep on doing. We've got a couple of these chili beans. Oh my God, that's so good, actually. Chili beans. Oh, that's pretty good. Jesse, do you agree? We need all three here. I do not agree. How about Chilumini? Chili minis. Chili minis. Chili minis. Chili minis.

Chili minis. A chili mini. A chimichanga. A mini chili. Chili changa. Chili changa. Even worse. A tater. Anyway, welcome. We got some headlines. Wait, what'd you call it? A tater thought. A tater thought. That's like a tater tot, which is like. It sounds like the podcast of Idaho Potato Corporate, like tater thoughts. The president of the board of potatoes. Ride up potatoes. Well, if you've deleted your Patreon, I understand. They're like, but if you haven't, thank you. And let's talk about some headlines that we've brought up. I brought a couple, but one main one. Alex, I don't know what you brought. I brought one about the TTSA. Oh, that's right. You did say that. And I linked you what I was bringing. I don't know if Jesse

brought anything, but if you haven't, we'll take you on a ride. I'm trying to be coy about what I brought so that secretly we didn't. I've actually. Spoiled it for you. Yeah, well, I've been reading. There's some TTSA stuff that's been coming out recently. So I'm curious what you brought. And I don't know if we should start with you or start with me. It's not like earth shaking. I'm going to just get into it. I feel like we talk about this a lot on the pod and I thought people might want a little bit more insight into it. So for those who don't know, TTSA to the Stars Academy is the UFO group that Tom DeLonge started and runs and now works with the government. So this this article originally appeared on Motherboard, which is part of vice.com yesterday, March 13th,

2020. It's called US Army Refuses to Release Records about Tom DeLonge's UFO organization. And it's by a guy who does a lot of the paranormal UFO stuff that's on Motherboard, which actually is a very good resource for like a pretty reasonable coverage of that type of stuff that's like fairly vetted compared to a lot of other sources you find online. So I highly recommend it. You know, I mean, there's a lot of websites that are just like some blog that has a lot of readers, but that doesn't mean it's like peer reviewed and stuff. But exactly vice.com. They have like journalistic standards. So, you know, it's a good place. But first, let me just give you a little recap beyond what math has just said,

which is that Tom DeLonge, he's the Blink 182 frontman of the past. He doesn't play with him anymore. His organization, which we're going to call TTSA for the remainder of this is the Two The Stars Academy. It had, if you remember, it's the same organization that we that brought those videos out that we were talking about to have the really good video evidence of the like craft moving in a way that more normally craft don't move. And they entered into an agreement specifically with the U.S. Army Combat Capabilities Development Command, which I'm going to call the CCDC just for this. Yeah. And the whole point was to study materials that they have allegedly and initiatives that they were already working on within their their their own group, which could possibly lead to

technological developments like and these are specific things that have been outlined by the military, active camouflage, inertial mass reduction, beam to energy propulsion, and quantum communication. These are all things that they are legitimately looking into with this. This is the you said this is the contract between TTSA and the government, right? Yeah, it's the U.S. Army Combat Capabilities. I don't know if you remember, but like a while ago I actually read through that contract. Yeah, it's pretty and Jesse's response was the government contracts everybody for everything. Yeah, it's pretty well. They do. But this happened last October, so it was like about six months ago now or so. But they are contracted to work for five years

on this is a five year agreement. And the main thing that the Army was interested in was something called the Adam Project, which we have discussed before. I don't know if we actually called it the Adam Project or not, but that's what it's called. Recap it for those who might know. It was an internal project that started at TTSA before the agreement, which according to a guy called Doug Hallow, who is the spokesperson for the Ground Vehicle Systems Center at the CCDC, he says it's a global dragnet for the collection and evaluation of novel materials, which in this case means things that are unique or rare or are just unaccountable, like nobody knows how they got here, stuff like that, like weird stuff, which is which is important because the TTSA, as we've covered

in the past as well, one of the main reasons they were contracted is because they claimed to have materials that don't exist on earth and pieces of craft and stuff like that. So in vague terms, basically what the reason that the government is paying them is because they have this program where they it's a network across the world, where they're trying to find these items and get them in one place and collect them for for research. So apparently, the new the new news that came out yesterday about this is that any of the reason it's not news, I would say, but there's something interesting in this. Apparently, any of the research or findings uncovered under the steel between the TTSA and the army are exempt from Freedom of Information

Act requests. Yes. And that's just due to it's not like specific to this operation. It's a normal army regulation 7057, if you care or know what that means. But there's this guy, John Greenwald, who runs this declassified document site called the Black Vault. And he like it's a website just all about, you know, getting these documents, making them available, using FOIA to its fullest extent, which is the Freedom of Information Act, if you don't know. And he filed the request, he tried to get around it by filing a request for all records and emails for one of the scientists who's working on this project in the army side, a guy named Dr. Joseph Cannon. And he like cross referenced that in the in the request with a bunch of search terms that were things like

TTSA to the stars, probably extraterrestrial, you know, stuff like that. So he does like a search request. And it kind of worked in that the army got back to him was like there are 29 documents that match your search. But unfortunately, all of them are exempt from FOIA. And they reiterated that absolutely no info on this topic was going to be released by the army. Okay. And so Vice asked that guy, Doug Hallow, that I was talking about earlier, the army spokesperson, why this would be the case, why, why they would be so tight-lipped about this when, especially since TTSA is so about transparency. And that's what they committed to. And that's like something that they reassured people like, yes, you know, we're a transparent organization,

we are going to be working with the military. So, you know, take that with a grain of salt. And so Doug Hallow, they asked him why this would be the case. And he basically said, he had no idea himself, like what exactly it was that they're working on. He wouldn't be able to talk about it if he did know exactly what it was. And that it was all, this all was because it's just a bunch of quote, trade secrets and commercial or financial information that's privileged or confidential, which to me basically means that there's probably actually something valuable in the information that they're working on, that they are concerned could fall into the hands of a company or somebody else who could profit off of it. So whether or not it's something

groundbreaking, it seems like there is something to protect here. And that sounds a little crazy at first. That sounds like a big leap for me to make, right? Well, at the same time too, like even beyond like profiteering and whatnot, with the government specifically, they probably just don't want shit falling into other country's hands as well. Right, national security, right? But you know, it's still a leap for me to be like, they have alien technology or they have. But last year, the same guy, Hallow, Doug Hallow, who is again from the Army and not from the Two Stars Academy, also said that the government thinks that quote, key technologies or capability that the Army is investigating with the TTSA

are certainly on the leading edge of the realm of the possible. So again, there is something tangible that they have got from the TTSA that is quantifiable, that he has some sort of information about for him to make a statement like that. And that's especially good because it comes at a relatively low cost to the government because it's something that they didn't have to do. So they're going full into this. And remember, we were talking about they only spent like 750K on this or something like that. Yeah, it wasn't very high, which isn't very high. But that's because a lot of the work has already been done. And really what this is, is it's more like like a like a tracking down type of thing. Like you're trying to talk to people who

may have something that you want to obtain. You know what I mean? There's not that much science that has to be done yet. But still, according to the COO of the TTSA, which is a guy with an awesome name that's called Steve Justice, who used to work, he used to direct the Advanced Systems Development at Lockheed Martin Skunk Works Department. So this is like a real guy, you know, who now went from Lockheed Martin Skunk Works to the To The Stars Academy. And according to him, nothing like a breakthrough, nothing like insane, like making like a fucking levitating spaceship of our own. No propulsion break. Nothing like that has happened yet. If for no other reason, like we know that because the TTSA is so committed to transparency. And

here's a quote from him that I'm just going to end this out with because it's kind of interesting to think about this. He says, it is easy to assume that TTSA's government agreement automatically locks up the results of research. However, it must be noted that the discussions with the government that led to the contract language were completed with the knowledge that one of TTSA's prime objectives is public transparency and commercial applications, right? So they are actually trying to monetize this and also get the information about what it is, where it came from, etc. Note the contract language that specifically identifies two ways sharing of information. The benefit of the agreement is to gain access to otherwise inaccessible government laboratories

and technical expertise to expose all attributes of unusual materials and share the results. If unusual attributes are found, TTSA may use that information to create applications for public benefit. We cannot speak for any action the army might take after studying the results. So what this point, like the in conclusion of this is that yes, there's nothing to show. Yes, the army is being tight lipped. But the thing that's missing from that equation is that according to the TTSA, they are committed to getting this information out there once it is found. And hearing that stuff is in the works from the army and them being tight lipped about it does not mean that there is secrets yet that the TTSA has gone back on their promise to be

transparent about because we're six months into a five year thing. So we keep going back to this. It kind of seems like something that fizzled. But I just want to point out this little detail because the things that this article covered I thought was neat because it really makes it clear that yes, there is something here. Yes, they are working on something real and that they just don't have anything of value to share. Bring to us yet. So I would stay focused on this story if I were you general public who's interested in this type of thing. Yeah, I mean, I've been keeping my ear to the guy on the TTSA since they jumped up with the army. So like the thing you're talking about, like, man, I really wanted to I really want to be real. I think I really, really, really

wanted to be real. But we'll see. I mean, look, there's something, whatever it is, like regardless of whether it's, you know, just some a list of things that exist out there that the government was like somehow, you know, confident of or convinced of, there is something of value that the government sees here. So I think we just need to wait and see because I think there could be something closure is coming. I think something I don't know. I'm not I'm not going to say disclosure is coming. But I could I do feel like there is something that's being worked on here. And that to me is I got there's definitely something they're doing for sure. Also, can can we say that this is alien related now that we have all experienced the mass stupidity

of the coronavirus of how people react? Is it safe to say that, yeah, the government telling us about aliens would cause the earth to just explode because people are dumb? Maybe not. I learned something by like just the last couple weeks. I guess the thing I've noticed is that the reaction that's happening. A lot of people are making jokes about toilet paper and like, well, the the thing that I've noticed is people, us, we react in ways that are very primitive. And we go hide in a hole. Well, and the reason why people bought toilet paper, you're like, it's about coughing and it's about, you know, like, why would you buy toilet paper?

Things that people are buying. If you look at what they're buying, they're buying things that are items that give them some sense of control, right? Because they don't know anything because at least in this country, no one's told them anything. No one can tell you what this, like what it looks like, like what this virus looks like. It's not a physical, tangible thing. You could get it or you, how would you know you have it until you have it? That kind of stuff. You are told, stay away from people, but at the same time, people are like, don't worry, it's not, it's like the flu. Don't worry about it. You're told that like this could kill 1.5 million people, but like at the same time, like, don't. So no one knows. So everyone's reacting

in ways that are like insane because they're trying to establish some sense of control in their life by doing things like, I'm going to get the toilet paper. So at least I won't run out of that or water. I'll at least have water if I should need it, right? Because they don't know what else they actually need because no one's telling them anything. And so I would think that the right way to do when aliens are here is to like be, here's what we know. Here's what's happening. Here's Glicknor the alien to talk to you about it. Like literally don't do that BS for like aliens have landed and we'll get back to you shortly. That would cost panic. Oh, I know. And that's what that would cause people to lose their minds because no one knows anything. Tomorrow it's

going to be beautiful. It's a great alien. See now, like breaking news ship has landed unknown creatures aboard and it's just like chaos. That would cause panic. Yes, that would definitely do it. But if you're saying that they're trying to roll it out to us, the rollout should be hey gang, we are on top of this conference. Yeah. And then people will be like, okay, this isn't as crazy. Yes, there will be people who are like end of days. But the vast majority people will be like fucking holy shit. Yeah, because there's one thing I'm like just going on public. You see people are not people are not except for like the videos every once in a while you see where people like fighting over milk. Most people at least in this town are not screaming

at each other are being very polite. They're just stocking up. They're getting things because people are telling them stay away from people, but we don't know how long this is going to last. We have no answers for you. Social distance and everyone's like, okay, so people are out getting stuff done and being very polite and nice to each other, but they're also prepared for things to get worse. But who knows? No one has any answers. And so that's the same thing here. If the government gave us real truthful answers on like an alien release, then all right, I think we'd be fine. People wouldn't be like, I need to go get water, but they wouldn't be like, I'll kill you for this water. See, I have a weird feeling like even if even if they did the slow

roll, the shock of intelligent species existing beyond ourselves, because there's so many people who believe in a higher power and in a life beyond mortal, I feel like that would shatter so many people's beliefs that it would just send people into chaos. I truly believe that much like the way over the last, I don't know, I'm going to say 40 years. Religion has taken on a different, oh, meaning for many people where it isn't like, oh, well, it's either God created the earth in five days or nothing. Now it's like, well, you know, what is five days to God? It could be billions of years. Who knows that kind of thing. And honestly, think of the stuff that we do accept. Like people are like on the news, like there is five minutes left before we do irreparable

damage to the earth and all our children die. You know what I mean? Like people are like, people are like, you know, there is a virus overtaking the entire country. Like the stuff that we just like adapt to normal in like one second is like just crazy. So I don't know. How very quickly a brain can make your new routine feel so normal. I just want it to be a lot of people want it to be the status quo, which is why I kind of agree with Jesse that they need to just be like, we are on top of the shit that they need to do that here. I don't have the confidence of the government. Like even if the government is aware from everything I've been doing research and listening to interviews, you know, as far as like, you know, the release of

the 2017 videos and the pilot who did it, it very much just sounds like government just has no idea and they are just doing a poor job at trying to figure it out. I think it's less conspiracy and more like bungling. I don't think they'd be like, we're going to pull one over on them. I think they'd be so inept at telling people what's going on that they would cause panic. But I know for a fact that if, you know, if aliens showed up, I believe at least with the current Pope, for example, that dude would be out there and be like, look, even though it's not in the Bible, there's all these other things like this wheel in the sky, like all those conspiracy things, he wouldn't immediately be like, look, it's like just because Jesus didn't say to you

that they were aliens doesn't mean it wasn't mentioned like that. I believe that religion would so easily quickly change to be like, there have always been aliens. What are you talking about? The little thing I brought that we'll actually just kind of cover very quickly because, you know, it actually ties directly into that. There is an event that happened in mid February. It was picked up by NASA's Helio viewer or their Heliospheric Observatory Soho. This video is so cool. It is super dope. I didn't know this happened until I saw another article written a few weeks ago that's dropped about it. It picked up something that almost eclipsed the sun completely and then went back to its position and then didn't talk about it. It was ignored. A UFO bigger than the

earth moved in, covered about half of the sun and then within, it was all within 20 minutes, I think, and then repositioned itself back to where it came from. You can watch it. It's like, it's video of it. The video footage started. There's like four seconds of it and then it immediately gets cut off by the feed. The live feed gets cut off. That's so did NASA. What the fuck? That's insane. Why would you do that? And so it looks like kind of a imagine a circle with a cross in it kind of like a, like, but more like the red cross cross. And so the reason I bring this up is Ezekiel's wheel that's brought up. This is being compared by conspiracy theorists to Ezekiel's wheels that are seen in the Bible, but continue. Yeah, but

that's it. Like that's unfortunately it is like, I had no idea this happened. They just never talked about it. The only way I figured it out is there's a few other conspiracy sites I visit every so often and Sputnik would not really conspiracy site, but kind of a lower end news site if you want to call it that wrote a very quick, like two paragraph article about this thing back on March 3rd. And I was like, wait, what? And I went back and it's like, this actually happened. And like you said, they cut off the feed. We don't know. And there's just never been talked about. There's, it's one of those things that has a lot of unknowns as well, where we don't know the actual distance of this thing. It could be because based on the footage, it could be very, very close to the

sun and huge or closer to us and smaller. Like we don't know the size based on the actual like positioning of this telescopic lens. But it did, but it did block the sun partially. Partially. It was moving in its way to create an eclipse and apparently what just moved back into its position afterward. Like it just moved up and then kind of moved back. Got a great comment on the page that says, thanks for sharing this UFOs become visible to us when they temporarily lower their vibratory rate down to ours. They're a gentle way of saying hello without frightening us. Author slash esotericist Benjamin Cream said their benevolent elder brothers from more advanced civilizations who clean up toxic, toxic nuclear waste created by

our relatively primitive nuclear scientists. Oh, dude, we got alien janitors in space. I would love it if that was the idea is that the best truth without them like coming and scooping off the, the, you know, the, and then, oh my God, in that story where they dumped the white hot liquid, it wasn't jizz. It was like radioactive waste. Also, I would love it if they could just go to Fukushima and just real quickly just get there and clean. You're taking your time guys. If you could just fly down, you know, I'm sure there's a lot of irreparable nuclear events on the planet that they're dealing with. So you're right. It's like Santa, you know, like he does take him like all night to do it. He doesn't just do it in one night. Like he still has to,

we've seen the movie. I mean, Santa can do it one night anyway. That's it. That's all I had for that one just because I was like, that was mind blowing that that happened. There's not a lot to the story. Yeah, right? No, it really isn't. It's just the foot. Yeah, people saw the footage and then no one saw it because they were going through the records. NASA didn't come out and be like, Hey, we caught this thing. People were going through the Helio viewer and Helio footage cuts like it's cut. Somebody was like, Whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Somebody actively was like, fucking no. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, it's interesting. I don't know what that means. It could mean anything. What it could be could be anything. The thing that is

amusing and interesting to me is that it isn't like the footage ends like someone cut the footage. And that's the interesting thing to me because what is that? Why? What? What is the answer there? Why did that happen? Who knows? Yeah, it's probably more interesting than the footage, which could be anything. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's like, it's the context, the implication that somebody actively said no, as opposed to letting it go and then making up an excuse. Yeah, right. Fuck. That's it for minisodes, dudes. That's it. That's all I got. That earnest fuck from Mathis right at the end. That's just him thinking about the possibility that aliens are real. I am. You know, that's a good chill. Again, it dude. So yeah. And for all

you Patreon listeners that are that are supporting and taking a listen, man, we are on the cusp of beginning our skinwalker ranch series. I am so excited. You have no idea the insane, the insane shit that supposedly happens on that ranch. Have you been keeping up with the recent developments of it changing hands, being bought and then handed over to research? I've been like not paying attention to it because I both want to watch the show and also end the episode. This episode that we're going to do. This episode, dude, it's a minimum three. Well, if our listeners want homework, I have homework for that. Okay. All right. Go research. Go research the new designated planet

Wasp 76 B. Oh God. It is twice the size of Jupiter. One side faces its sun and it has iron rain. It rains iron. Heavy rain. How cool is that? Heavy rains. Where is this? It's, it's in another, you know, another out there. Yeah. Another solar system. It is, it is a planet that it takes two days to go around its sun. That's how close it is to the sun. And because it goes so fast, only one side ever faces the sun because as it spins, only one. So there's one side that is like several thousand degrees. And the other side is, you know, still like 2000 degrees, but several less. And it's so hot that rain or that, that iron molten iron, and then molten iron, and it comes down. So basically the sky is some sort of like

ionized molten iron cloud system. Holy shit. And then the rain drops down as like iron, like almost liquid pebbles. Man, space is cool. It's crazy. And so scientists are studying it. They're like, this would be the craziest place to see. I wish I was like super into science of space as a kid. I would have lost myself to like being an asterisk, like an astronaut or wanting to be that way. Anyway, we got to wrap this up. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you for your support. I hope you've been enjoying the mini shows. We'll be back with the next one in the next episode with some more fun headlines. We'll see you next time. This has been goodbye. Tater thoughts. Brought to you by or rather or rather the scary. They're so it's so good. It's scary.

I I I have nothing to add. Goodbye. Thanks for the money, bitches. Don't make a writer. Yeah. Fantastic. Hello, hello, hello, everybody. And welcome to the next Illuminati mini. So and mini. So number three, as always, an immediate thank you to our patrons for the support. Thank you for the money suckers. Ha ha. Don't do that. Don't do that content that you we paying for early. Heck yeah. Literally, literally, we could not make this into our job without you for real. So yeah, we really can't. It would thank you very, very, very much. We appreciate it. So I know me and Alex have brought it. I think Jesse's I don't know if Jesse brought anything. But what am I going to I don't know news. So real boring news articles. Yeah, just like today

is a stock market. It crashed. Three thousand points. Wash your hands. I saw a great video about a guy and he has rubber gloves and he puts ink on his hand like it's soap. And then he begins to wash it and he shows you what it looks like when you normally wash your hands and how you're supposed to really wash your hands. So his entire gloves are covered in ink by the end of it. He's like, this is how you get all the germs. Like that's fascinating. That's what I'm bringing. Take care of yourself. Don't fall for BS. The next stories you're here are not true. Continue. Okay, these are these are you know what? Actually, I think today we're going to be today we have some true stories. Yeah, I've got a true story for you where it's a mini true crime

dip real quick into something that happened yesterday. So this is like boiling out breaking news. Same here. Same here. This is this is this is a wild ride. This is going to be a wild ride today. We'll start with a bit morbid stuff. Vermont woman allegedly kills boyfriend by slitting neck as authorities reject self-defense. This particular article is currently coming from People Magazine. Not that you know, we're trying to talk about, you know, her murdering him. But what she did afterward and the reason she gave are what are the most interesting. Vermont woman pled not guilty to second degree murder charges after she allegedly admitted to killing her boyfriend by cutting his neck and what she

claimed was an act of self-defense according to multiple reports. Avril Bellevue 30 is charged in connection with the death of 45 year old Cameron Falling, according to Burlington Press. On that Saturday morning Bellevue, she called 911 from her studio apartment. There Vermont police officers arrived, discovered a gruesome scene while she while she drank tea. Her apartment was covered in blood, police say, according to TV station. So what ended up happening is that two days beforehand, she snuck up behind her body from after buying this knife weeks ago, snuck up behind him while they were talking about something and just jabbed it into his neck and slit his neck. She then she then spent the next two days

drinking tea and spending time with the body, sleeping with it and just generally just using it before she called the police on her cell and claimed self-defense. However, her claims were not met with the autopsy that was performed afterward, as there were no signs of struggle and he just had the giant knife wound in his throat. And she claimed the reason she slit his neck on top of saying self-defense was she was also really upset that she didn't that her boyfriend did not buy her weed fast enough. So she cut his fucking throat? Yeah. Dude, I bet you she's addicted to something. Oh, absolutely. There's just no way. But all that's out right now. That's all that's out. She drank tea for two days. She popped by her parents' house, I guess, to change

her clothes and then went back to like make tea and spend time. You know what's crazy is that that's not the first time I've heard of like a killer hanging out with the body for a while before turning themselves in. Yeah, no. Just to just to like live in that reality for a while. That almost sounds. Yeah, that almost sounds like like even like the self-defense, which wasn't it and like the weed fast enough clearly wasn't it. To me, it rings of somebody who like had the idea stuck in their head and obsessed over it like you just said and had to know what it was like spending two days after that, like spending time with it and playing with basically the body. That's just that's like the seeds of a serial killer. The beginnings.

I will say like blood everywhere is not necessarily a telltale sign of a murder. And I know that first hand, well, second hand, because my buddy from school, he told me this story one time of he was playing the PC port of Final Fantasy 7 back in the day. Oh my goodness. Like just chilling in a quiet, dark house by himself. Like maybe he's, you know, he's a latchkey kid vibes. He's sitting there. And if you can imagine, he's like PC screen is in front of him. And to his right is like a large window that on the other side of the window is like the porch. Right. Okay. So yeah, I get you. His dad comes up, comes home, is on the porch. There's water or something or ice or something. And he slips and falls through the window,

crashes, like falls between him and the computer. Oh my God. Splashes like splash through the window. And he's like, oh, shit. Oh, no, I think you got to call the hospital. And he and he looks at his wrist, which is slit with glass. And it's literally with every beat of his heart. Oh, shooting blood all over the walls of the, as he's turning around and looking around at where all the blood is coming from. He doesn't even realize that it's shooting out of his own wrist like a, like a, like a supermarket squirt gun toy. Oh my God. He didn't even have to spend a night in the hospital. Like he was fine, but blood was literally fucking everywhere. Good God. So, you know, think about that next time you think about blood at a crime scene.

Sweet. So what'd you bring, Alex? Okay. So this story is a little bit bigger than I expected it to get. This is truly like a mini-soad right now. But this, this story comes from the East Idaho news. It's the name of the publication. East Idaho news.com by a guy named Nate Eaton. It was posted yesterday at about six PM. It's a pretty high profile case right now in general. It involves two missing kids. So it's like a big deal right now. I'm sure you've, if you have been paying attention to the news outside of the coronavirus, this is probably something you've heard of. But I'm pretty sure most people don't know the, the like weird details of this case as much. So I'm going to get into that right now. This is the story of Lori Vallow Debelle

and her husband Chad Debelle, who are currently under investigation for the disappearance of Lori's missing kids, JJ Vallow, who I know this story. Oh, this is a good one. Yeah. JJ Vallow is seven and Tylee Ryan, who is 17. So that's, that's, those are both Lori's kids. Neither of them have been seen by anyone since last September. But since we're going to get into it, I, I have to give you kind of like a cast of characters first so you can understand just how fucking crazy this story is. Okay. So first off, you have Lori, Lori Vallow Debelle, who is the mother, who's currently in custody at the Madison County Jail in Idaho on charges, two charges for each kid, desertion and non-supportive dependent children. You have her husband Chad Debelle,

who is actually Lori's fifth husband, who he married, he married her literally two weeks after his previous wife, Tammy, died under mysterious circumstances. Jesus Christ. This case is happening in real time. Tammy was just exhumed and is an autopsy is being performed right now. So we don't know for sure if there was foul play. But most important for Lori and Chad is that they both have these religious beliefs that they believe in, which we will get into in a second, but I need to introduce a few more people. But the religious beliefs are the core of this whole case. And man, it's crazy. So next, there's a woman named Melanie Boudreau Paulowski, who's Lori's niece, who has also shares these religious beliefs and who up until last year

sometime was married to a man named Brandon Boudreau. Okay. So Melanie and Brandon, and Brandon currently has custody of his and Melanie's kids or at least their kids together, probably Melanie's kids. He also says Melanie knows where JJ and Tyler, the two missing kids, and was involved in a shooting that he actually was he escaped from. Like he says he was shot at, but he didn't get hit or killed or anything in October on his way back home from a workout. Okay. So so far, that's all crazy. But then there's also Melanie's current husband, Ian Paulowski, who works with the police to help find JJ and Tyler, and who also allegedly wrote a document describing this religion that we're about to get into. But I'm not going to get into that yet,

because we have one more guy who is unfortunately named and I feel like you're going to feel left out, Mathis. I want to tell you what this guy's name was. His name is Alex Cox. And he is and he is a yeah. His name is Alex Michael Cox. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I feel better. That's just that's in the head cannon. But that's Lori's brother, Lori. Lori's brother also died under mysterious circumstances in December, but who's also confirmed to have killed Lori's last husband, Charles Vallow, allegedly in self-defense. This is like the days of our lives, dude. Yeah. There's a video of it too. There's a video of that where the cops are talking to the dude on like the street after he killed him. And he's like, yeah, I killed him. Yeah, it's crazy. It's wild. He's also the

suspected shooter in the gym, in the gym shooting that where the other guy didn't get hit. Why do people keep boning this lady? She's just trying to get him all way or hardly killed. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. So now let's get into the religion. She must be good and bad. Yeah. So, so basically the niece Melanie, right? The one with the with the two living husbands still, the one the ex-husband who got shot at and the one husband who's working with the cops. Melanie tried to have her ex-husband held in contempt for making false statements to the court. And so he fired back with a 70-page document that has a statement from her current husband, which according to EastIdahoNews.com, Boudreau got from this guy's computer. So I want to be clear, this is like allegedly, allegedly,

allegedly because... Yeah, all of this is like, like you said, happening in real time. It's all alleged. Yeah. So this, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to get in trouble. But this is, this is all alleged. So you got to take it with a grain of salt. But this document is very long. You can actually read the document in its entirety. It's available online as PDF. It mentions, quote, zombies, which in this case means, quote, human bodies that have had their original spirits forced from them and have been possessed by either a demon, disembodied spirit, or a worm slash slug. What? Are they trying to, so they're trying to make zombies? It has to do with zombies and I'll get into how. So apparently, he goes on to say, and this is a

quote, spirits can be pushed from their bodies during traumatic events or deadly injury. Spirits pushed out are trapped in limbo as the body they're tied to is still living, but cannot be occupied by them anymore. Okay. So that's the deal with the zombies. This is like a thing that can happen to you, basically. And there's also a mention of a, quote, dark church and 50, quote, dark, translated beings who originated with Cain from the Bible, who literally walk the earth trying to stop the second coming of Christ. And he also said that they believed that the two police investigators working the case were some of these dark beings. The this is what like some of the 50. Yeah, I mean, I'm not actually clear on that. The phrase translated

is like thrown around with regard to the 50. Okay, gotcha. But these, but the two cops are only referred to as dark beings. Gotcha. So Ian's Ian, the current husband, who, by the way, is still married to this woman. He's committed till death do them part. Literally. Yeah. He said that at first he didn't take it seriously because it sounded like it was quote, ripped straight out of a Dungeons and Dragons manual. Yeah. But since they got married, quote, faster than any sane couple would. Good start. He immediately started. Yeah, I know. He immediately started getting worried about how serious she was taking it because apparently on their wedding night, he said, quote, she explained zombies and her fears about what Chad and Laurie stated concerning the original

spirits being caught in limbo until the body's death. She stated that Brandon, and again, that's Boudreaux, the guy who was shot at, had been possessed by a demon or another dark entity sometime after June of this year. She was told through either revelation or by Chad that something needed to happen to Boudreaux in order for his spirit to progress and for the Lord's plan to continue. By revelation or by Chad, honestly, they're equal. I'm going to go with Chad, actually. I'd probably go with Chad on that one. Yeah, I'm going to go with Chad. She didn't take well to the idea of her husband dying as part of the Lord's plan or ex-husband anyway. Well, at the time, it was her husband. But you get what I'm saying. Like they divorced last year and she has since

gotten married to this guy, Ian. But at the time, she believed that, oh my gosh, my husband is possessed and something needs to happen to him to help him. So this Ian says is why Alex Cox, Alex Michael Cox, Alex Mathis Cox, who took those shots at Brandon in October under the direction of Chad and Laurie, but he was not sure about that. That was the least clear thing he says in his little allegedly document. Have we, in this whole thing, have you mentioned what the case actually is yet? We're going to, we'll get to it. We'll get to it. So more importantly, he also- There's a whole thing here happening. I know, I know. It's like side story.

We're getting to it. So more importantly, he also said, this is the real deal. So this is where we're getting to what actually happened here. So quote, Melanie had been told by Chad and Laurie, this is a quote, Melanie had been told by Chad and Laurie that their children had been possessed and had become zombies. She shared concerns that she's been told Brandon needed to die and that may indicate that Tylee and JJ needed to die as well. She told me she was worried that Al, AKA Alex Cox, may have had to take care, quote, quote, of the kids. She explained that Al had great faith and never wavered in his trust in the Lord and that no task would be too difficult or too great for him. So then, while Ian was getting worried about that, his ex-wife, another person,

his ex-wife, before marrying Melanie, contacted Brandon Boudreau, Melanie's ex-husband, and told him that Melanie was in a cult and tried to have him killed. So that's when she and Ian went to the police together and Ian began sharing all this info with Boudreau, I guess, or from his computer. He typed it up. I'm not sure exactly what happened. He even tried to, apparently he said, he tried to catch them talking about their kids. He tried to go in with a recorder to Chad and Laurie and try and get them to talk about where their kids are. Yeah, try to get them to confess, basically. Yeah, but it never worked because apparently they never even act like they had kids. They don't even talk about like that kids exist. So after that, a welfare check was made on the

kids in Idaho at their home, Chad and Laurie's home, because the extended family reported having not seen any of these kids for months, right? Yeah. So they're like, what the fuck? So Chad and Laurie lied and said, oh, the kids are living in Arizona because that's where the Boudreau connection is. It takes them to Arizona. So they were like, they're living in Arizona right now. You have to come back at a later day and then you can check on them and, you know, whatever. But the cops were like, I don't know. And so they came back then they came back the next day and the day bells were completely gone. They had completely just taken off until recently, like a couple months ago, when they were both just discovered in Hawaii and taken into custody

and no kids are anywhere. And there's like weird surveillance footage of somebody taking the kids stuff and putting it in a storage unit. And there's all these weird like phone calls and weird things that are like maybe evidence in this trial. But that nothing has been confirmed yet because the like I said, the case is still ongoing. But weirdly, weirdly of all, most of all, Ian, the guy who's cooperating with the cops and Melanie, his wife, who is like still believes in this religion, are still being represented by the same lawyer. And the lawyer is taking Melanie's side over Ian's. He's denying the stuff that Ian said in the document, which is why I keep saying allegedly so much. But there's a hearing next week in Arizona for their children.

And literally yesterday, like 15 hours ago or something, the two lawyers working on Lori's case, the kids case, just walked off the case without any explanation. Yeah. So that's all that I know right now about this. That's all there is now is like these guys probably killed their kids and like hid them and tried to like run off and do a life together because the one dude was like they're all demons. They have to die. But if anything else significant happens, I will like update this with more information. That's fucking wild. What the hell? It's like a drama. It's like literally a drama on like a daytime soap opera. It's got Jerry Springer episode that is like a little bit too fucked up. Also true. Yeah, I'm just blown away by that. But yeah. So

what do you think, Jesse, right? Like pretty believable, realistic stories, but just kind of fucking crazy, right? I mean, I've been following it since the whole they fled to Hawaii and they were hiding out on the island and then the cops went to find them because of the kids and the kids had gone missing. And there's a whole, I mean, I've been following it ever since then. It's wild. I've never heard of it. That's just like, it's almost a little hard to follow because there's so many people involved. I mean, ignore all the people involved. The main story literally is Chad and Lori Daybell back in 2018, I think did like a podcast together or something. I don't know what happened. And needless to say, Lori vanishes for like almost two months. And

when she like, when she comes back, their Charles is like, I want a divorce. And Lori's like, I'm going to kill you and I'm going to take the kids. And then this is Charles. This is her first husband. Right. Their fourth husband. Her last husband. Yes. And she's like, I'm going to kill you and then steals $35,000 from him. And then he's like, okay, well, maybe we can make the thing work, right? Then Lori's niece divorces her husband, like Alex said. Yep. Yep. Then Charles Vallow, husband for shot and killed by Alexander Cox in the house, because I guess Lori left and Alex and Charles were in the house together. And then someone got killed. And when the police show up, Alex is like, he attacked me. And they're like, what? And he's like, yeah, he attacked me.

And there's no, it's like a weird, there's no emotion in him. Yeah. And like, then so just saying it because he has to say it. Yes. And so then Lori leaves Arizona and goes to be with the other guy. Can't remember his damn name. Chat. Chat. Yeah. Chat Daybell. And then everything picks up. Yeah. Everything picks up around September 23rd, where on September 23rd, the kids go missing. The two children. Well, that's the welfare check day. Yeah. Yeah. JJ was last seen at school and his sister was last seen around that time as well. They vanish. And then they're unenrolled. Like the other kid is unenrolled from school. And then Lori, uh, Valo, Daybell, whatever, rents a storage unit.

Right. Then Brandon, like Alex said, says someone shot at him. Then Tammy Daybell calls 911 and says, Chad was like going crazy and was shooting a paintball gun at them or something. And then a master salent was there. And then Ty Lee, who is the girl, the young girl, uses Venmo. Yeah. Out of nowhere. On the phone. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uses Venmo on the phone. People are like, hello? Are you alive? No response. Then Tammy Daybell is killed. Tammy double dies. Supposedly natural causes, but who knows? Tammy Daybell is then buried buried buried. And this is, this is October, like 20 something. Then a friend of Ty Lee's gets the text, but they have no idea who it is. They don't, they don't know if it's actually her. It's very,

you know, unspecific. The Bordeaux's finally, the Boudreaux's finally get a divorce. And then witnesses say they were all told different stories about what had happened. People were told, you know, Ty Lee died years ago or people were told that the kids didn't even exist. Like crazy stories. And then, and so in the middle of November, Melanie Boudreaux is arrested because she's apparently trespassing on Brandon's parents property. Okay. And then they go for, yeah, they go for a Rexburg welfare check in November, late November. And this is the last time where they find nothing. They go for a search warrant and Alex Cox then marry someone, which I didn't even know. I guess Alex Cox marry someone and then Melanie remarry someone. And then immediately December

one, the day bells vanish, vanish, just straight up vanish. The next time they are seen is after they had fled to Hawaii, gotten married, and then secretly hid out there in December of last year. And then Alex Cox mysteriously murdered in Arizona because of his death unknown. They announced a search. This is worldwide. This is like middle of December towards the end of December. This is around Christmas time. They're like, we're looking for these kids. We don't know where these kids are. The parents are missing. They're persons of interest. We cannot find them. If you know where they're at, let us know. Then there's the attorney statement that Alex talked about. And then it's just like, okay, we cannot find these kids. If anyone knows, we know that the day bells must

know something. We have to find them. If you can get them, let us know. They search their house. They search everywhere. And then the family, the Woodcock family are like, we will give a reward if anyone can tell us anything about what happened. And this is January of this year. Like we will give any reward. We do not care. We don't know what's going on right now. The brother of Chad speaks out, right? Everyone's just like, what is happening? Yeah, that's wild. That's insane. Yeah. And so it almost sounds like cult mentality gone wrong. Yes. I don't know how big this cult is though. That's the thing that sometimes it can just be a few people. Yeah, it's fucking weird, man. Yeah, Lori and Chad are found and they speak to

people at like, well, you know, we tried to, you know, we tried to do the best for our kids. And you know, they're fine. Don't worry about it. You're like, what? Yeah, like what? They're not saying anything. Lori doesn't show up for court when she's supposed to show up for court. People are like looking around the storage unit and inside the storage unit is just children's toys. Yeah, it's like kid stuff. That's so weird. It seems like they thought they had like the most genius plan and then they like accidentally copied it from like a shitty movie. They even got a one million dollar life insurance policy on the kids. Yeah, they're stupid. They're like establishing like every motive possible. Hopefully when they finally find these kids,

they like something, you know, these kids are super dead. Look, I'm not gonna say that. I don't want to say that. Absolutely. I don't want to say that. I'm just saying when they finally do find them dead or alive, like hopefully we get some answers and I would really love to hear from these fucking lawyers that walked off of this case. I would really fucking love to hear from them. Apparently, I got some backstory. Someone was talking about it where Chad Daybell is like, Lori, I guess, did a show with him. I think the podcast and she like became infatuated with him because he is very charismatic and he's like a preacher dude and the podcast they went on, he was talking all sorts of crazy, culty stuff. I'm so curious how he got her and I wonder if

because she had been married four times. If she, to me, I'm just gonna put this out there anyone who's married four times doesn't know what they're looking for. They're lost and confused and they're trying to find themself in someone else and this dude is like, I have all the answers. Got her. It has to be. It has to be that. That's like textbook, like cult person, like textbook cult leader person that can say, can say their nonsense in a convincing enough way and could portray themselves in such a way that they all have all the answers. Like you said, even though it's usually vague platitudes that mean nothing, if you say it with confidence and you can convince someone desperate enough to believe you, it all takes sometimes. I often have thought about,

because in this case, I've heard it so many times, I've often thought about the fact that you know, one thing a mother especially is attached to is her kids and you can't just take your kids and bring them to a cult. So if you're a cult leader, the thing you can say that would get her to be like, I have to forsake my kids is like, they are walking slug brain demons. Dark translated and they're, they're gone. They don't exist anymore. Those things are not your children. We have to kill them so that you can be free of them and then their souls can be something crazy like that. And I guarantee that's because all of the women in this cult have that same like, I need to get to my kids. I need to find my kids, which is crazy.

So who knows? It's terrible. But it's also looking to find the kids spirits to possess the people they're killing off. It's fucked up. You can actually read the whole document. If you want to link you to it, it is totally insane. Let me definitely drop me a link. Don't you do it? Yeah, do it on throw me that in Twitter DM so I can grab it easier after this. I could throw it up on the Patreon post. Sure. Oh, well, that's a weird story from both of us, both true crime and nature, one a little bit more culty than the other. I just can't, I just couldn't believe that it was a real story. Like I heard about it. I'd heard about it, but I just never, I never like realized how wild it was. And then I started reading into it like a couple of weeks ago and I was like,

Oh my God, like what the fuck is this? It's drama levels of insanity. It's crazy, dude. But yeah, thank you guys so much for supporting us on Patreon. Yeah, exactly. Thank you so much for the support on Patreon. Hope you guys enjoyed this little mini-soad next episode. Can we spoil anything? What's our next episode? Well, I should by the time be ready for the next one to be Skinwalker. I needed just a little bit more time. There's just a few more things I hadn't finished the second book yet. How much time do you need? Do you need a Jesse Cox episodes worth of time? I won't say no to a Jesse Cox episode worth of time just for the sake of getting a Jesse Cox episode. I've got a lot of free time right now. I'm down to do an episode. You tell me when.

Doing this is like, we're not changing anything about the way we record this podcast right now because of our unfortunate situation. No, not at all. I got free time. I can write up something real nice. It'll blow my mind. If you can get me, if you can get done before I'm ready with my Skinwalker. I mean, like, I don't know when, how fast you can get it done. Oh, yeah. All right. Get it done. All right. Sounds good. Thank you guys so much for the support on Patreon. Hope you enjoyed the mini-soad and we'll see you with the next one. Next time there's an episode. Goodbye, everybody. Bye. Peace. Whoa, excellent. Hello, everybody, and welcome. Welcome to the next Illuminati mini-soad over on the Patreon, at least for now. You might be listening to this in the

Cool Kids Club. The Cool Kids Club. You'll listen to it early just for you. We got a couple in the I Got a Fun article today. I don't know what you got, Alex, but I got a neat one. You brought something kind of unique today. Mine is definitely like big quarantine vibes. I'll tell you about it when we get to it. I don't know who you want. I don't know who you want to go first. I'll have you this is like only during quarantine. We had a new UFO sighting that I want to talk about. So that's what we're going to do on mine. Okay. So it depends on how heavy is yours. Is it a heavy topic? No, it's mostly fine. Okay, mine too. You know, I'll start this time. I think you started last time. So here's my article. It comes from the Derby Telegraph, and it's called

Chaddiston Barman Tells of Seeing UFO, known as, quote, the Black Knight, end quote. And there's a picture of the gentleman who saw it. Do you all know who Liam Kyle Sullivan? Do you remember him on YouTube? He was the Oh My God Shoes guy? Oh my God. Oh yeah. Shoes. He looks like him. This is what he looks like. I'm going to link you guys the article real quick. Where is he from? Derby Shire, I guess? Or, no, Chaddiston. Chaddiston. In my mind, I'm imagining one of the like 500 miles guys. There you go. And I would walk, right? The Proclaimers. Oh yeah. He looks like Ron Weasley. He does a little Ron Weasley. Yeah. So who's the guy who plays Vision? Oh my God. He's like a mix between Vision and Ron Weasley. So Chaddiston Barman is open up. It looks like

Adam's Apple is trying to escape through his throat. It is. It's like trying to get out. It's like irritated from the desperate attempts at peeling away the skin. Oh, I'm going back for this kid. Here's the thing though. In about five years, he's going to be the sexiest man who ever lived. I know how this works. What happens to all the awkward ones, man? I know how this works. That's British people to a team. I don't understand how it happens. It's very strange. So Chaddiston, a pre-butterfly barman, has opened up publicly about his UFO experience, describing what he believes he witnessed as a phenomenon dubbed as the Black Knight. Zeil? Zeil? I think that's how you say it. Zeil was with two friends when he saw a dark

prism shape emerge from the night sky and move towards them. The mates watched as terror slowly fell over Mr. Gilleseppe, while the dark specter loomed over them for a full 15 minutes. Mr. Gilleseppe said the UFO had two bright stars at the top of what he described as a ship. He said they appeared to act like headlights. Did he have a phone? I guess not. He then said he had drank two pints of beer. His friend Alex had drank one pint. Alex's girlfriend Haley was sober. Proud parents Alex and Haley are still together in a tree of disgust the events. Oh, this happened in 2016, apparently, many times since it happened. The location was

Bullwell Forest Golf Club by the third hole at the top of a hill. Very specific. Mr. Gilleseppe was who was a barman at Bunk before it closed during the coronavirus outbreak. Said the UFO had no noise at all, as was hovered above them on a quiet evening. I'm sorry for your loss, sir. He said we did. We decided to go for a stroll after going to the pub. It was a nice night. We walked up to the top of the hill as we were staring at the sky. There were these two stars that moved toward us. They grew. I thought they couldn't possibly be stars. They both came into focus up close to us in the air. I thought maybe it was a helicopter, but there wasn't any sound. He added as you focused on it, you could see there was a black shape around it, which was

slightly differently colored to the night sky. And now he's going to school. What? So this, so this is a news story in a town that's under quarantine. I imagine under quarantine, a story that came out of the time he saw UFO in 2016, it says. But this article is from a few days ago. We got a bartender who saw an alien four years ago. What's interesting is that is not a UFO description. I am at all familiar. Ever heard. Yeah. I have never heard like you hear of like the hourglass shaped ones, the tick tech shaped ones, the, uh, it's obviously the, the like, the, the sphere shaped ones, all kinds of different ones. But this, this one with two lights at the top, this pyramid. I don't know why they

call it the black night. And it just looked at them for 15 minutes. I don't know. I've never heard of it. Oh, oh, there's more. There's a continuation about the article says I stopped early. Yeah. It says Tesla talked about the black night. Okay. So let's continue. The black night is a supposed astrological phenomenon that was written about the famous, uh, Nicholas Tesla. Oh, I know what this is. There's a picture of this. The scientists drew pictures, which are available to view online, which show a black prism with two bright stars near the top, similar to what the bartender described. According to some conspiracies, it is an artificial status, a satellite, which is orbited earth for approximately 13,000 years. Yeah. There's a NASA pick of it, dude. Like,

look at this. What? I'm looking at this right now. It's called the black night. There's straight up just an entry on Wikipedia, the black night satellite conspiracy theory. Well, what it probably is, according to Skeptoid, which is that Brian Dunning podcast where he just like ruins cool stories. Uh, it's, it's, it's, uh, it's a, it could be, it could be pulsars that Tesla saw, but this picture, which NASA says is trash. They said it's space debris. Like that's, I mean, if I saw that, I would be freaking out. That's wild. But like, if it was just hovering in front of him, what the heck? Like that doesn't make any sense. Uh, yeah. He continued to say it felt like an intense analysis of me. I think emotionally he was trying to pick

up what I was feeling. I don't know how he understands that at the time. It had only been three weeks since my friend had been stabbed. I think it just wanted to know how I felt around that time. All right. Well, now, now we're starting to get into trauma processing, maybe. Who knows? Uh, we've spoken about it extensively since and they still talk about it today. That's the end of the article. After, after realizing it reminded him of internet stories describing the Black Knight, he hid under a tree. Yeah, that's great. I love that. Well, that's my little article for today. Any new UFO phenomenons I'm on board all times. I, yeah, I've, you know, it's, there's not like actually a great repository of like collected headlines from around the world that

are specifically about the paranormal. Well, because the last time that happened, the dude who was doing it got visited by the men in black for the very first time. Remember, that's what he was doing when the men in black showed up. He was collecting stories from his town. You just think, you just think that there would be a subreddit that's like the rules are you can't tell personal stories. You just report report like news stories. You'd think, but I would, I would love, I would love for that to be the thing. I don't know. But I have something totally different for you. I have a tweet that I saw today that has as of this writing 420 retweets, which is perfect. But it's from this, from this person named Jacqueline Felker, who is credited in her Twitter

bio as a senior writer for cards against humanity. I don't know if that's true or not. Because I don't know this person personally, but their Twitter is at what the Felk. And it says, seems like a good time to share this letter my parents got last year about their home being haunted. So I'm going to read this. She just posted a picture of the letter. So I'm going to read the letter. Dear Felker, imagine, imagine you rent your house to somebody like years before and then out of the blue, you get a letter from somebody. Okay. Dear Felkers, my husband and I rented your home during the summer of 2017. Every so often I thought about sending you this letter and I guess I'm feeling that now is the right time to do so. Please know

that I am not a crazy person. It's a good way to start your letter. My family doesn't do drugs. We are just a normal family. While we were staying at your home, I saw a spirit of an older man in a denim shirt on three different occasions. All three times I saw him in the kitchen area, walking through the kitchen up the steps to the third floor or back into one of the back bedrooms off the kitchen. My son also saw him in the kitchen area and in the bar area. My children all experienced saw or heard things while we were on vacation. My husband, probably the biggest skeptic of us all awoke one morning to see which kid was making so much noise in the kitchen at 5am. There was no one in the kitchen. I'm not writing to complain

or scare you, but to share with you that if you've seen this man, so have I. So did we. We just assumed that he was a lost soul who hadn't crossed over yet. Was it a little unnerving? Yes it was. Quite a few things were happening the weekend that my kids and their friends stayed with us, but nothing bad ever happened. So if this seemingly nice man is a relative of yours, I'm sorry for your loss. Perhaps a previous homeowner, someone who died while on vacation renting your home? Who knows? But we saw and felt his presence. So there you have it. My name is blank and my phone number is blank. They scratch it. Yeah, of course. Should you have any additional questions? Aside from our visitor, we enjoyed your home very much. That's awesome. I would be pumped.

I would be pissed because if I owned a beautiful big house, I live in an apartment right now that's basically like a cigar box. You can walk across it. I go on a vacation to the living room and that's what my life is right now. But if I had a house and I was alone and I was sleeping there and then somebody wrote me a letter that was like, no, you don't understand. My whole family saw this thing. Like, be careful. It's there. Who knows what it is. It didn't hurt us, but it's there, right? Siesta, I don't know. I might be excited because that would be like, well, if I wasn't, if I wasn't experiencing anything and somebody wrote me a letter and was like, yo, haunted, I might be nervous. But I imagine if it is actually like truly haunted, then she's probably, she's probably

aware. Did she say if her mother was aware? She said, there's a follow up tweet that she said, for everyone asking, no one in my family has ever seen this man in denim as much as I wish I had, my dad did call me to take this down because it could affect future renters, but I told him it's too important. But then I was scrolling through the replies and there's a tweet from somebody called big trust. And it says, I don't know how this tweet appeared on my timeline, but my family rented your house in blank during the summer of 2017. My mom sent the letter because we were genuinely curious if you've seen the same guy saw and heard shit all week. It was wild. And then Jacqueline wrote back, no way. Yes, I've been the number one believer the entire time,

even though we've never experienced anything. Wow. And then he said, never experienced anything like it before. Myself and four or five others all had separate experiences or sightings. That's interesting because then you then you think, Oh, well, did I did it? Did it follow them? Was it attached to them in some way? But if they've never seen anything outside of that, maybe you just have to be open to it. Yeah, you got to be open to a man. Hell yeah. I mean, that's what I've always heard, right? Like that certain people have like the shining and some people don't. Well, I mean, I've been shouting to be like, have an experience forever. And I have you trust, I mean, you try to sell your soul to the devil for something. I want to be a supery.

I was trying to do good in the world. All right. He was trying to be Spider-Man, but like this is so badly want to experience anything. You're like, look, Satan, what do I got to do? So then I looked, so then I looked through the, uh, I looked through the like replies. There was one that said, do your parents own this house? And it's an Airbnb called the mansion in the pines. It has eight bedrooms, 21 beds and the note on the overview says all events must be approved prior to scheduling your rental. You may not book a wedding or reception or corporate event through Airbnb. Additional charge of $25 per person over 16 people. This is a one time charge. This has been our family home for more than 18 years

and still is. We have a lovely family atmosphere and want to keep it that way. We absolutely do not allow any murder mystery dinners, haunted or ghost themed parties, nor anything that might be similar. We will prosecute if necessary. Our home is not haunted and we strictly prohibit anything that would give the impression that it might be. That's great. I never thought about that. I never thought about like, like, you know, people have been talking about how scientists have been having to figure in for coronavirus, like the added extra element that in America, especially like people treat the research as if it's like nonsense. Yeah. And that's like an obstacle. And like, it's just funny to think like,

you're going to, would you, I mean, like, would you stay in a house that, that like was like, it's famously haunted? Yes, specifically to bring, wait, what? Hello? You all right? Yeah. Can you see me? Yeah. Yeah. Everything just flickered. Yeah, I saw it. Oh, I see it. My, my monitors are on and off like crazy right now. It's time. It's time. The cat is entering the free mind. What the hell was that? I just lost everything. My whole office. Who's in your room? It's your damn doll. Don't turn around. Don't turn around. Oh, they said turn around. Sorry. It's the damn doll. I put him in a closet a long time ago. He's still in there. Did you untape? Did you untape? No, absolutely not. Hell no. I'm not playing games. Oh, it's so funny.

Have you ever, I mean, like, have you ever stayed somewhere that was supposed to be haunted? Yes. That wasn't like a family home. Uh, nothing ever happened. I've always wanted to like go to like room 13 kind of stuff. I've always wanted to like do a travel show. Emily Morgan Hotel. I did it twice and it was never, never had an experience. Nothing. Did you bring like gear? Oh, no, I didn't bring gear. I wasn't in that mindset of go something at the time. I would now. I would love to do that. Once this is all over with and we can go outside again. I would love to. That'll be our $10,000 goal. We'll do $10,000. We'll do a live, we'll go do a live ghost hunt somewhere.

Like a Zach Baggins. Yeah, we'll do a Zach Baggins style, like taunting for possession, like bring it on. Let's do it. I want to, I have like, I have like recorders. I have like some camera stuff we could bring, we could rent like a, like a EMP or whatever that thing is, or like a little electric meter. EMP? Boom. We're just staring at him. Just put out, take out all the power. You know what I'm talking about though. Yeah. EVP, good sir. No, no, not EVP. Like what's the, like it's like a, it's like a, you know, it's like a meter. Like a K2 meter? Yeah. Maybe. The one that has a little bar and it'll go up with a green light.

Yeah. Well, like the ghost buses one where the sides go up like a bug. Exactly. Class five, whatever. Yeah. I want that. $10,000 when we go, let's get the full time first. If we ever get to $10,000, we'll do a live. I would do a live ghost hunt. That's why you guys are doing the right thing. Live ghost hunt. I would do a live ghost hunt with, with like to, and record it in a heartbeat. Livestream where we like, are each in a room on a chat together. We got to get like, we got to get like origin to sponsor us with mobile computers. Like we strap onto our backs. I remember a while ago, Jesse and I were looking at the house that's

like next door to the, uh, the, uh, Manson murder house. Oh God. Look, I always want to take Davis there and make him stay the night. I've always wanted to do a scary game squad live. It's been my dream. It's, it's hard to find a place that will actually, that's, that's legitimately haunted enough that it's not just like a local legend. I want to go to like one of the big places that like all the people go and like stay there over. I would love to do it. I want to go to that haunted doll island in, uh, Mexico. Oh, that's Louisiana one. Oh, Mexico. I'll go to Mexico haunted doll island. I don't care. There's a few of them. There's a few of them. Yeah. Well, we'll get there.

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