Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 70 - Interdimensional Rebirth

Episode Date: October 5, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:29 Hello, hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Chiluminati Podcast, Episode 70. We're almost at 100. The cigarettes you needed after Episode 69. Right. It's been a week. It's been long enough that I thought they would have forgotten, but here we are reminding them. How could you forget?
Starting point is 00:01:03 Reminding them of it. Who would want to, to be honest? Right. Who would want to forget them? Okay. Come on. You had to admit the letter writing one was tight. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:02:26 What can I tell you? High quality PNGs. That's some, that, that, that, that, that's some high quality PNGs. Little Bobby Buchet humor for you guys. You guys remember him from 20 years ago? You're the devil. 25 years ago. You're the devil addicts.
Starting point is 00:02:37 You know, Kathy Bates is in that movie. Yeah. She's great. Like what the fuck? She's great. Henry Winkler and Kathy Bates. Anyway, I guess what today is, boys, it's reader stories. I love this.
Starting point is 00:02:51 We got to, we got to keep approving through them every so often on the reddits. Pooh, our listeners. Don't you understand that they want you to do that? Like some kind of weird fucked up relationship. I just, I just feel bad after episode 69. They might like, why are you lying to us? We're going to start out with one simply titled traveling through dimensions. It's given to us by awkward smile meme about halfway through, I stopped copying the names
Starting point is 00:03:20 of the, of the person who wrote it. So I apologize. I just simply forgot to enjoy the names of the authors while we still have them. I just want to preface this, that if the boys want to talk about this in the podcast, they can. I would love their opinions on this mind bending experience. It's also not strictly paranormal or alien. However, I believe it can loosely fit the multi-dimensional alien line of thinking.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I love this guy already. Okay. I mean, I would be good friends. I can tell you right now. Okay. Okay. I have no real drug experience. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I was a boring suburban kid who also was never big in any sort of mind altering substances, even alcohol. Earlier this year, I decided to try marijuana for the first time. And the first and third time I tried it, I experienced realities past the veil that we normally see. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:04:10 If this is just, if this is just a super long winded baked bean boy joke, I'm walking out this door. Oh man. If this ends in the fucking bean boy, you tell me right now if this is a bean boy joke. I can't tell you where this is going until we're there. It could be completely legit or it could be bean boy related. I don't want to ruin it.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I need to keep you on your toes. Is this just a giant bean boy bit? I saw, I can relate to this man. I had a suburban upbringing. I didn't touch any alcohol until I was 21. I didn't touch weed until I was 30. It happened. Does the word bean boy appear in this selection?
Starting point is 00:04:46 I'm more worried. You dare lead ahead because I don't, I don't, I will not. I will not. I'm concerned about the fact that on this podcast, we have mentioned weed numerous times and this guy was like, only this year and I think it'd be cool to try it. Are we the problem? Had nothing to do with us. Had nothing to do with us.
Starting point is 00:05:02 No, no, no. It's really not us, dude. We are not. We are not. Kids, learn your lines. Just get your books open. Oh, two lines. Learn your lines.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And also turn your books to page knowledge and this is what becomes of you if you smoke weed. So we're like, I want to reiterate that both of these times I smoked with another person and neither had anywhere near the experience I had. So it's unlikely slash nine possible to the marijuana was tainted or laced with something else. The first time I smoked, I didn't feel anything until about 10 minutes in at which point I went through the everything is funny phase before I got the spins and then threw up.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Extremely realistic story. That's so far. That wasn't. Yeah. That's rough. I'm sorry to hear that was your first experience with weed. We'll continue this at the at the point where things get absolutely bonkers immediately after I vomited.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I picked my head up out of the toilet and then it hit me. I had no idea what or what I was or where I was not in the sense that I didn't know which person I was or in which building I was in what I didn't have sense could that possibly mean he didn't have to. I didn't have the thought of self. So you were like a rock. He was. I didn't have a thought of self.
Starting point is 00:06:35 This is like when you watch like a PSA about doing drugs and the guy like smokes the joint and then he's like the sun like smiles at him and like hippie music starts playing. Yeah. It cuts to reality and he's like falling tried to do like too much weed down his own stairs at his house. The worst ever gone for me is like I can't move my head. You know what I mean? I was terrible laughing.
Starting point is 00:07:03 This could be like this is like I don't know. There's all sorts of chemical things that go on and everyone's body's different. I feel terrible. Yeah. However, the line I didn't have the thought of self is crazy high. Did you just wait just wait this story is such a I this is my first time smoking experience kind of story. I just love it.
Starting point is 00:07:30 There's nothing wrong with it. This is like my first time dropping fucking acid story. Like I don't know. This is crazy. You had an intense high for weed. I will just say that. This is like DMT. All right.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Continuing after I didn't have the thought of self. I didn't have the thought of self. That is the very thought that is like that is like that guy at the coffee shop where he said to me, we're all moving at the speed of thought that's right. That's right. He's right. He's right. He's not wrong.
Starting point is 00:08:02 It doesn't really make sense, but technically he's right. Yeah. He's right for the wrong reasons. Something was black and then slowly stars began to appear as though I was looking at the night sky. I could feel that something was happening, but I was still not aware of the fact that I was me. The stars began to connect at which point I had an epiphany quote, I am a number.
Starting point is 00:08:32 What? Did you smoke the stem of an entire mushroom? He's literally on like a weird mushroom trip right now. I homer find your soul mate. I can't let him cry and I love the story of so glad I am so glad we're in this land. Thank you. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. This is amazing.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And I love it. I wish my highs were like this. Let's get Jesse for the sake. We have to push forward. I just wanted to thank you all for sharing your stories with us. Right. I love this podcast is a gift. So I just want you to know awkward smile meme.
Starting point is 00:09:35 I just want you to know what makes this so funny to me is everything you sang to us in quotes like I am a numbers of it reminds me of things like when I was young, my friend Steve got really high and looked up at the sky was like, dude, the moon has a purpose like that kind of stuff. Exactly. It just, oh my God, you're like, yeah, it does with the time. You're not wrong. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:10:03 All right. Sorry. So continuing on the story. Now I know this sounds absolutely wild, but it gets even stranger as I thought about my new number self, not in the sense that I was the number seven per se, but I was an infinitely long and complex number to which my consciousness was assigned. Okay. I became aware that I was not a number, okay, but the end result of an equation.
Starting point is 00:10:30 And then I realized I was the equation itself. How much time has passed? Well, that's like, literally, like, you know, when data at the end of first contact is like, Oh, I did consider it for a moment and he's like, well, how long was that? It's like 0.031 seconds and he's like, but for an Android, that's an eternity or whatever he says. That is how I imagine this. It all happened in his head.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Literally, he vomited, he whips his head up from the toilet and everything is changed. You know, when the baby, you know, like right before the baby shows up in 2001, you know, like that, when Dave is hitting that like amazing super tunnel. Yes. Okay. Yes. That's where my head is at. I do know that scene.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Oh my God. So he's the equation now and he says, looking back now, I think either A, I was tripping major balls or B, I was starting from the core of what makes an unconscious, us a conscious people or C, I was traveling through the different dimensions. Then because I was thinking, I reasoned that I cannot be an equation. I must be the sum of a set of equations emulating a consciousness. Didn't think of humanity yet. It was at this point that I became aware of what was outside my consciousness.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Those stars were still connecting only on the left half of my face. What? And as if I were loading an image on a dial up modem, the right side began to load line by line. Then I realized the right and left sides were connected. I was seeing one continuous image. Oh my God. By the time that the part of my visions where my eyes exist about two thirds up of your field
Starting point is 00:12:10 of vision, he's trying to describe how things are filling in and his vision in the pitch black, like first the left side, then the right side. The part of his vision where his eyes exist. Yes. Yes. I think that's what he's trying to say. He's speaking from an enlightened standpoint. It's hard to comprehend.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Yeah. He's a tall white now. I could move them and focus on the individual parts of the image I was observing. This entire time I could not move and did not move because it was not known to me that I was in a body or in control of it. You were definitely, you were definitely high. That's been really disassociated from reality. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:51 He had like ego death from weed. He's explaining how eyes work. I just like, I imagine him right now in this moment, death gripping the toilet, locked up and like staring at the ceiling. What's fascinating about this is you can, you see all the signs of different bodily things happening. So like a great example is when you talk about coming up from the toilet and seeing stars, like there have been times where I've thrown up and it's because you're literally depriving
Starting point is 00:13:19 yourself of oxygen as you are like puking your guts out and you can't breathe that you start to like see the little sparkly star things. I get that. I also think the whole idea of it all, all this seeming to wash over you is kind of like when you're high, it kind of slows down a little. And so I can see your mind, if it's a first time experience, like thinking all this is happening very, very slowly. Also the whole idea of being like outside your body.
Starting point is 00:13:46 That's a super I'm high thing. Like I definitely, I definitely can see how all this plays. We're along for this man's first stone journey. I'm excited about this. I'm positive you were high. I just don't, I'm not sure what you took. I'm positive you were high. So we'll continue.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Again, I was in a body. He wasn't aware if he was in a body and that he was in control of it. This continued down to my mouth. And when I regained control of it, my first words were, oh my God, holy shit. So this is how it happens. That's another good line. Oh, I think I was referring to how the left part of my vision was fully intact. But only now the right side was coming into view and they were experiencing time
Starting point is 00:14:33 in very different ways. By the time everything in my vision was visible at once, I realized that I was the thing I was looking at. I realized that the thing I was looking at was an image. I and it would that it was my reality. Okay. So the thing that it was seeing as an image was his reality. Yeah, hold on, because it's even wilder.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Yes, this is how it works. You are correct. That is usually how the reality works. Yeah. The image then turned on its flat side. So then I was looking at a whoa, you skipped a part. Oh, yeah, I did skip up. So sorry.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I saw I saw figure. Oh my God, I'm sorry. I saw a figure walk across the image as though I was looking down at street art or something. The image then turned on its flat side so that I was looking at a 2D object in 3D space and from this plane, I began to emerge. You're looking at yourself emerge from the plane in which that you are looking at while you are emerging from it.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Easy to barge. Like he saw the picture. He saw something walk. It like turned flat and then he began to emerge from the. Okay. So I'm imagining like when you're in like when you're looking at like a picture of France and there's like, it's like a drawing in chalk of like a hole on the ground.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Yeah. Okay. And then, you know how in portal, if you like shoot the portals in just the right way, you can see your own ass. Yeah. It's like that. I'm yeah, like the those two sensations mixing together is where my head is still with them.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Like this doesn't sound like weed. I don't know what I'm saying. Like somebody, somebody, I don't know where you got this weed, but I don't know that they were completely honest with you. And you know what, Alex, you make a good point. Let's stay honest with our listeners. Support for Trilluminati is brought to you by Manscaped, who is the best in men's below the waist grooming.
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Starting point is 00:18:10 It started with the crown of my head in the exact center of the image. And layers of who I am began to emerge as my body began to emerge. I mean, was that like 3D printing yourself? 3D printed or is this coming out of mold like a terminator? Layers of who I am. Let's see what he means by that. I realized I was human. What my name was, how old I was, that I was a man, what my voice
Starting point is 00:18:38 sounds like and trends and characteristics about myself. The oddest thing was that the parts that did not emerge yet cycled through as though I were all of them at the same time. Before I realized my sex, I was fluctuating between human man and human woman. Like I was being 3D printed as my mouth and neck became. It was revealed to me what my voice was. Every aspect of my life, I was I was saying as facts as they materialized. I live in blah, I enjoy this.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I have these relationships with these people. Basically, he's speaking his life and it's coming into into fruition before him physically right at a certain point after my body materialized. I realized or thought that each person has a set image that we emerge from. And it was at this point that I was very upset that the image I was emerging from was the image of a toilet with vomit in it. Now that I knew I was the person I am, I realized that the image was actually part of a 3D space.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I could interact with it and I could associate the visual elements of what I was seeing to the physical things that I exist. So now is like the bathroom that he was vomiting and is starting to like he can see it, he visualizes it. It's like he's coming back into his body where he left it, it sounds like. Yeah. In a lot of ways. I saw the paper towel paper towel roll and willed myself that, A, I could reach for it and B, I could grab it, interact with it
Starting point is 00:20:06 such that I can manipulate the reality or dimension space that I was in. This continued to end in me getting off of the toilet, laying in bed, falling asleep. And then when I woke up, I finally realized, yes, I am me. This is the world we live in. And this reality is correct. Real reality. I went about my day as normal, as normal as I could anyway. That is so crazy to me because it just seems like. You didn't smoke weed.
Starting point is 00:20:34 No, it just seems like your entire perception of like your entire process of being a human thing, just you experienced it in extremely slow motion. Like everything that you're describing is just like somebody existing from one second to the next, like slowly describing how your eyes move and see images, slowly describing how like you're constantly thinking about the truths of your life as like a platform for your own reality. These are all things that we do all day, every day, without thinking about them. But it just seems like this sort of like you'd stretched it out
Starting point is 00:21:13 and you looked at like five seconds of just the complexity of existing and you analyzed it with with, you know, on visuals as if it was as if it was an hour. Yeah. Yeah, basically, I mean, like, you know, it's like when you know, you smoke weed and things kind of weird, slow and blurry. Yeah, it's like it literally broke down time scale into quantum mechanics for this poor guy for a little while. Yeah, you saw like the frames. But we are done.
Starting point is 00:21:39 It gets so much better. The second time I smoked was fairly unmemorable as I I as a consciousness moved through my eyes a little bit, and then I was just kind of fine. So yeah, normal, normal time, second time smoking, what? But like, you can't just brush. Can't just like, yes, whatever. My consciousness moved through my eyes, but you know, whatever. Like, what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:21:59 Like your brain went into your brain. I mean, I think it's the whole, like, like tingly vibe kind of thing is what I'm trying to do that. Yeah, like a headband kind of vibe. Yeah. The third time, however, is why I won't touch weed to this day. I'm ready. And I'm not sure I ever will. Oh, my God, I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:22:22 What happened to you? I just want to know where you're getting it from. I'm worried about you. I want to know, because I would love to get it from them. No, I'm worried about you. I don't ever want to go. And then my mouth came into being and I was not. I 3D printed myself on my own eyeballs as I watched myself
Starting point is 00:22:39 operate the printer from inside of the printer. That sounds terrifying. That sounds like you took salvia is what it sounds like. It actually does. Yes. Yeah. I've only ever touched weed, so I can't tell you. Don't don't do salvia. Oh, my God. If you want to know reasons why just Google dudes filming themselves,
Starting point is 00:22:59 watch, watch, watch the video driving a car while on salvia. That's the best one. Oh, my God. That sounds like a terrible idea already. We'll watch the video together after this. That'll be. I can't wait. That'll be a chill. Illuminati about bonding session. Yes. So now remember, both of these
Starting point is 00:23:13 times I smoked with someone else, I didn't have too much and they just got normal high. I took two moderate hits off of a bong and then was fine for about 20 minutes, laid in my bed in the same adventure or trip began. I was a number, then an equation, then a series of both until I finally landed on. Am I an AI? Am I an AI? The matrix, the matrix stuff to stone has entered. Wait, here I would not smoke weed either. If this is what happened to me, too much.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I would stop too. I would have this is not what I'm looking for with my marijuana experiences when you were clearly just an eye. No, you're artificial. He's he's like, I think he's partially because he believes he's an equation or the result of the equation. Equations results were results of simulation. We're all an AI. Maybe you're not in a simulation.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Maybe maybe conscious reality doesn't actually exist. Conscious reality is a simulation. It's your brain simulation of what it's of all of the like your brain. Tells you what is around you. This could be one of those things where like I touch my mouse, but it's really like a fleshy creature. But my my body, my brain is like, it's a mouse. You never know. You'll never know.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Everything is perceived by you. It's a simulation your brain puts together in your head. Is your existential dread for I always want you to try, Salvia. Listener writer. No, yeah. What if this is hot? Like, where will you go on Salvia? He's the key.
Starting point is 00:24:45 He's the key to moving into the higher state of being. I've got to get in the right front. You're going to come out of this and then covid will just be gone. You'll be like, I figured it out. I figured it out. The equation of this of being covid was it's gone. You're like, what do you mean it was an AI? This time, however, I continued to add layers.
Starting point is 00:25:08 It was if I was looking at a cube, emanating this golden light before I discovered it was a tesseract and that the tesseract was my consciousness. You know, that's actually somewhat accurate. If you think about it, yeah. Once this became evident, it was as if a camera flew up from out of my body and zoomed out to see the planet, then the solar system and so on.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I think there's a meme of this, right? Yeah. Burn, burn, burn and fly out. They were all connected. They were all the stars from where from when I began to see them for the first time. From when I began to see for the first time. Period. I'm sorry. We get to see for the first time.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Let's see them for the first time. So sorry. As the stars were linking up, I realized that that as indeed. No, try that again. As these stars were linking up, I realized that that was indeed my consciousness, a system of information traveling throughout a galaxy or universe. Not wrong.
Starting point is 00:26:04 No, again, he's not wrong. The camera then whipped back into my body and I knew that everything had happened and it all felt absolutely true. See, but that's the funny thing about a brain because if your brain tells you it happens, then it's just you're going to think it happened. True. I could I could see in front of me and behind me.
Starting point is 00:26:24 But the sides were all were still blackness. Then it came to pass that those were star systems or planets or whatever or whatever they were that hadn't had marijuana yet. I'm sorry. What? Like the OK. All right. What's up with you? They could not see, so they could not be seen.
Starting point is 00:26:43 They had marijuana is the key to see. Did you create a religion? Is that where this is going to end? Holy shit. Is this to be? Oh, my God. Holy shit. What are you saying?
Starting point is 00:26:54 It occurred to me, though, that if it occurred to me, that if it occurred to me that if the marijuana was obtained through illegal means, that it could not achieve the same level of consciousness altering. Oh, my God. I love that. I'm out. What just happened? We took a turn.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I was not expecting all those things that he saw, all those stars and systems connected to whatever they had marijuana and the darkness that he saw to the left and right of him were things that don't have pot. Hence, they could not be seen. They could not be seen yet because they had not been enlightened by marijuana. If this is if this is Bean Boy, I'm walking into the sea. Let's continue to find out.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Of course, since at this point, I was a multi-dimensional space being eventually they all became lit as time passed. Right. They did what felt like seconds were millennia and eons. After this, I became aware that others must be the same system of complexities. And then finally, I was in my body again, and I could not see everything that I saw anymore. For the next three days, I believed I was a facsimile of myself created by myself to complete work that I needed to do.
Starting point is 00:28:05 But I am unsure. That's true, too. Again, he's just he's realizing what life is. Yeah. This suspicion that everything was a simulation and time was moving in a very strange way continued for this four day duration. I came to understand the purpose of consciousness and what it was. Consciousnesses exist to love and bring joy to other consciousnesses.
Starting point is 00:28:27 I mean, again, I like the message. Yeah. Solid. They exist to interact with each other and live as happy, joyful existences. You took a ride to get there, but like you got there, dude. That's yeah. All right. You're right. You're right. Some people just read a book, but you got there through the god leaf, I guess. Which I guess says a lot about my nature, but I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:28:48 I won't touch weed again because I am afraid of what else I would see. What lies beyond I don't blame you. Yeah, dude, I don't either. What lies beyond or outside those layers and I don't want to get trapped in that state with no real way of coming back. There's also a possible scientific reason for everything I experienced, a drug and do psychotic break. This is possible as I'm on two different antidepressants
Starting point is 00:29:10 at the moment and have struggled with mental illness a lot this year. However, something keeps gnawing at the back of my thinking that it was real and that I didn't go crazy. I discovered some innate truths about the nature of existence, reality and our dimensions, aside from being an existence made up of nebulous pockets of thought. I didn't really experience any other life or existence during my journey. No interdimensional travelers, no aliens, nothing.
Starting point is 00:29:35 But maybe it was like I was behind the wheel of a car. I didn't know how to drive. I couldn't direct my journey. It just kind of occurred to me. I just want to know what you think about it. This came to mind because I recently re listened to the men in black episodes where the topic was related to what is reality. And Jesse had that story of when he had acid.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Yeah, I mean, I will say that the outcome of these experiences, I think, got you to a place that a lot of people when they have drug experiences get to and the idea of like there's clearly something more than the everyday grind of existence and what we perceive reality to be. There's a little bit more to it. And in the end, the only thing you can do is appreciate that be it star or tree or the darkness of space, everything is connected in some way. And we're all kind of made up of the same stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:32 And the only way to go about life is like, you know, treating things right and bringing joy and love to people. That's like the solid that is the classic. You took you took like a long ass way to get there. But in the end, you had the classic high experience, really, really did. Yeah, like you did. Like, how do I describe this? Some people not naming names.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Some people, you know, when they experience something extremely trippy, they just sort of like roll with it, go, whoa, like, dude, nuts. Right. And that's how some people. I don't know. I've never heard of that. Anybody actually doing that. But the, you know, some people do that and it's it's more, you know, something that you're already you're just experiencing. And I think the way that you described it,
Starting point is 00:31:21 it seems like something that you very earnestly went through, you know, without a lot of pessimism or skepticism. You know what I mean? With a little motivate one life, let's be very clear. At the end here, the inclusion of I'm on two different antidepressants. You know, you are you were mixing chemicals then, essentially. Yes, you were the the weed and those antidepressants. That could have some effect on what you saw.
Starting point is 00:31:52 The outcome is this thing where you came to the place. I think a lot of people who, you know, do shrooms or whatever, like they have this like, I am one with the universe. And, you know, I want to make things better for the world like that. That's usually what happens. But the process, I think, was a combination of a lot of drugs in your system. Of like, because this doesn't sound like weed. It sounds like something different.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And it probably has to do with the other drugs in your system. Yep, definitely. I think I agree. I think like I think, you know, a lot of people think that getting stoned and tripping out is like the search for answers, right? And but I think really what it is is you're you're learning that there aren't answers and you there are many more things than you expected that you simply have to decide. Yeah. And that's and that's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:44 the gift of psychedelics that like lots of people talk about, I think, like, that's why so many people have these religious experiences associated with fucking eating like one hundred leaves and jumping up and down and going crazy in the jungle while some lady hits you with a stick and like repeats the same shit over and over. And you just like start crying and like fall in love with the entire earth. You know, like, yeah, very much. It's in one in the one hand.
Starting point is 00:33:09 It's fucking gross and like fucked up and weird and like totally disturbing that you're doing it, like looking at a bug writhing around on the ground or something. You know, you're just reacting to some fucking chemicals. But on the other hand, like if you have an artistic enough brain, if you're like thinking about it poetically enough, you can really. Yeah, you can really. Yeah, you turn into a sting from like how he appears in the movie, Dune. But even more than that, you don't even need to have the artistic brain
Starting point is 00:33:36 because you'll process it even if you do it quantitatively or you do it at the most basic bare bones level. You'll notice something that you never noticed before. And I think that is what happened here. I think you like everything you said at its base level when you're just like, we're all equations, like sure, we're all the sum of equations of countless generations before us. Like there's so much that you got right, but it was just like far out, man.
Starting point is 00:34:07 The lens at which you saw the answers is all we know. Both are wild story. I love that story. Thank you for taking both are valid. All are true. It's weird. That's true. Yeah. Alex, do you want to take this next one? Sure. It's yours for for the reading here.
Starting point is 00:34:22 You got it. Ghost Children and Shabeless Demons by true Queen of Trash. If you would like to use the story in the podcast, you have my explicit permission to do so. Any edits are fine. I'm going to fuck this up. Here we go. I'm just I'm just kidding. I'm going to I'm not going to make any edits. This I'm going to take some poetic license.
Starting point is 00:34:39 That's all. This is a story from just a few years ago when I lived in the college dorms while I have a few paranormal like experiences such as electronics turning on in the middle of the night. This story is not necessarily about that. In fact, this story isn't necessarily paranormal at all, but it did scare the crap out of me.
Starting point is 00:34:56 To preface things, I'm kind of like Jesse and that I don't know that I really believe in ghosts. And I think that our minds are very mysterious and can make us believe crazy things. It's almost like somebody put these two right in order after each other, like it makes sense or something, right? With that said, my scary experience started
Starting point is 00:35:11 because I took an extra dosage of my meds one morning. Oh, man, do we do we have a theme going here? I take Adderall for my ADHD and for whatever reason, I had managed to take twice my normal dosage one day. My head hurt and felt foggy all day. And eventually my heart started racing like crazy. I realized what I did and told a friend of mine
Starting point is 00:35:32 who I'll call Rachel. I started to get worried because my chest hurt and I couldn't walk well. I ended up going to the hospital. The cost of going there might even be the scariest part of the story. Yeah, I hear that. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Dude, I know one time my roommate took me to UCLA Medical and it like wrecked me up for an anxiety attack. Crazy. I had like a Xanax and they sent me home. For six thousand dollars. It was like a couple of G's at the hospital. They asked me all the usual questions. I told them what was going on
Starting point is 00:36:02 and eventually used an IV to sedate me with something. And it turned out I just had a sort of panic attack. Sure. I went to my dorm room and laid down for the rest of the day while some Rachel and another friend took care of me. Fast forward to that night where things started to get really unsettling.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I was having a hard time walking and I still was not in a perfect state of mind after everything, Rachel or whatever her real name is. Would help me get up and walk for things like if I needed to go to the bathroom. Eventually, Rachel and another friend left and my only friend and only my friend, Alex, was with me. This is starting to get scary.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I'm just kidding. I kept hearing people calling my name and loud banging from outside of the room. And I would ask my friend if he heard anything. He kept telling me that he didn't hear any noise. I wasn't sure, though. I continued to hear what sounded almost like children calling my name,
Starting point is 00:36:50 which was especially weird as we were in a college dorm. Oh, thank you, dude. Eventually, I got up and told Alex, I can walk fine. I'm just going to get some water, which was a total lie because I stumbled down the hall. I made it to the bathroom, which is where the drinking fountain was and leaned down to drink some water.
Starting point is 00:37:05 When I was trying to drink from it, I accidentally bumped my head against the fountain. Well, I thought I only bumped my head, but I may have actually slammed it in the fountain harder than I thought because I had to sit on the ground in the hallway after leaving the bathroom. Dude, this happened to me when I got up off a plane one time. I hit my head on the little thing at the top.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I thought I can cuss myself. I hit myself so. Oh, my God. I told Alex that I had just bumped my head and we didn't think much of it. But unsurprisingly, hitting my head seemed to make everything much worse. I started hearing voices much louder and clearer than before. They were the same voices like that
Starting point is 00:37:37 of children calling my name, asking to see me. I felt like we weren't alone in the room. I kept asking Alex if anyone else was there and he kept reassuring me that he was the only one in the room. Eventually, I heard the voices say, we are coming to you. No, I was really scared at this point. I thought I kept seeing things in the room. I felt like we weren't alone and I was really on edge.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And then I saw her for a brief moment. I saw what looked like the ghost of a younger girl by one of the lofted beds. I couldn't tell if she was floating or hanging there. She didn't exactly look like a ghost girl in the traditional semi-transparent tattered clothes way. I can't really describe what I saw, but it was more formless than you might think a ghost would look like.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And she didn't really have a discernible face, but somehow deep down I had an understanding of what I was seeing. It was like my brain knew what I was seeing, even if there wasn't a clear physical image. And this is actually interesting because I have a similar experience with a ghost that I saw in my grandma's house one time. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:38:34 Yeah, I saw like a figure in the hallway a couple of times, like walking into the other room as I was coming out of a room. Oh, that's cool. It was fucking weird. You know, shout out to Nani, who just passed. I would do every when she passed. I was begging her not to haunt me and she hasn't shown up. So thank you. That's awesome. Appreciate it. I tell the story of my friend who's
Starting point is 00:38:51 no, no, no, passed away with the family all around her. And then she, like 20 seconds later, like popped back up and like made like one more loud sound and scared the shit out of everyone. And then she died again. Nice. That's that's awful. Everybody like I what he said happened was that everybody like it happened and then they all like laughed
Starting point is 00:39:10 because it was like so fucking crazy that it happened. Yeah, this is like no other reaction. Yeah. All right. It goes on. She didn't move or speak while she was in the room. She had disappeared soon after I saw her. Alex continued to tell me that he had not heard or seen anything, but I was starting to freak him out because of how convinced I sounded. After the girl, I saw what looked like faces appearing on the walls,
Starting point is 00:39:30 smiling at me. Oh, God. Oh, God. This is not good. I also saw a long, dark figure in the mirrors in the room. It was faceless and mostly featureless, but moved in quick bursts of motion, kind of like a spider. The entire time I was seeing these things, I didn't hear anything else. There were no voices.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Eventually, Alex called Rachel and let her know that I was going completely insane. She came down to get me and realized I needed to go back to the hospital. On the way, I saw the dark figure following us in reflective surfaces along the way. It was like it was stocking just behind me, watching me. When we got to Rachel's car, I saw what looked like someone inside. I asked who was already in the car and she looked free and told me no one was in the car.
Starting point is 00:40:14 On the way to the hospital, my friends made me put a blanket over my head so I would stop seeing things and freaking them out like a horse. Like, gosh, she's going to be fine. Dude, I mean, look, sometimes like sometimes when you're in the wrong mindset, it can be bad. All I remember after getting to the hospital was going into a room with a doctor.
Starting point is 00:40:33 The next thing I knew, I woke up in my dorm room because someone had brought me lunch. A couple of days later, my head hurt really bad. And as it turned out, I had given myself a concussion on the drinking fountain. So the obvious conclusion would be that I was still messed up on drugs and that a concussion that I hallucinated everything, but it still made me feel uneasy that I was hearing voices before I hit my head. And later on in that year, I bumped my head again
Starting point is 00:40:56 and saw and felt I was stalked by the dark figure again. I was uneasy for a while after seeing all this stuff and my reality felt broken. I am better now and I have been concussion-free since. Is it possible that our minds protecting us from the terrifying reality of our world, which is revealed to us if we knock our brains out of commission for a while? No, probably not.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Anyway, that's my crazy experience with hallucinations and the paranormal. I hope you found it interesting. How very connected, there is the theme, how very connected to the last story. A little bit. What I love about that is that you were down to earth in your expectations of what happened, that most likely it was the drug-induced head slamming
Starting point is 00:41:42 that made it all happen. However, it doesn't mean it was any less scary. Because seeing things and getting weird out about stuff, there's been times where I think everyone has been sick or been on something or something happened to them and they felt uncomfortable and weird. I can see that being terrifying. Yeah, I mean, I totally, I get it. I've been that scared of shit before.
Starting point is 00:42:07 It was stuff that turned out to be sleep paralysis or something like that, but I don't think it's impossible to actually experience things like that with your brain and have nothing wrong with you. I don't think it means necessarily that you're fucked up if you're experiencing something like that. I think just sometimes your brain gets there and it's crazy. Although, really quickly, I just want to address a thing to people, just in general, because I love this idea.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Is it possible that our minds are protecting us from the terrifying reality of our world? Again, very Lovecraftian. But here's the truth and this is what I'll say. What are you going to do about it? Yeah, if there's another existence and there's like shadow people walking around us all the time and like horrifying realities outside of our own, what could you possibly do about it?
Starting point is 00:43:00 Nothing. Can I talk about something real quick? It's an alien related, but directly related to the reality thing you're talking about. Sure. Back two years ago, 2018, the FBI released a bunch of files that came from the 1940s, especially after Roswell, which is the only reason I came across the shit in the first place from Roswell. But there are files out there.
Starting point is 00:43:18 I'm going to get the links. Maybe we'll talk about them on the mini-soad. Let's talk about that these other beings that we're seeing in the sky, these UFOs, are not aliens from another world, but they're literally directly on top of us. They're in this other dimension existence that they, but they, I'm sure you've heard of this before, but they exist in another vibrate. Vibration length, like they vibrated a different frequency than we do. So the reason that we see them pop in and out all the time is because it's them popping
Starting point is 00:43:45 in, vibrating to the three dimensional space, popping in, doing what they're going to do. And then they disappear because they pop out and they're kind of like overlaid on top of us, basically, if you will, boundaries between our worlds. But in reality, what are you going to do about it? Nothing. You can't do it. That's the worst. No, it's just like getting, it's like seeing a waterfall and being like,
Starting point is 00:44:05 fuck, dude, what are we going to do? In the paper, in the paper, the FBI report, like in the paper shows you the steps you can take to try and vibrate to their frequency and stuff, but it's like meditation and like all this other practice stuff they have to do. It's like what people might ascribe to astral projection is actually just doing this. Yeah. It's like transcendental meditation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Yeah, you're like, so I'm going to read the next story because the one after that is a dream interpretation and that's specifically. Okay, great. So this one is simply called the time a ghost scared the life out of me. Oh, it's also by Lady Cry 19. Thank you. Oh, hey, look at you going out of your way and finding these stories. I'm a nice, cool guy.
Starting point is 00:44:42 What can I say? You're a nice, cool co-host, bro. Hello. I recently started listening to the podcast and I love it. I thought I'd share my ghost story because why not? Maybe you'll find it interesting and you guys could talk about it if you want. I'm not the kind of person to say every creepy thing is the result of a ghost, but personally, I do not have a proper explanation for this event.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Aside from a ghost messing with me. Every story starts like this. Now, let me just say that I'm not a crazy person, but here's what my fucking story is. Right, exactly. We appreciate you defending your own mental health. I get it. I like it.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Me too. For context, I'm convinced that if ghosts are real, they get the energy to screw with people through fear. This particular night, my older brother was teasing me by showing me pictures of aliens, those gray bug-eyed looking monstrosities. Oh, you don't have to clarify. I know what you're talking about. They're called grays.
Starting point is 00:45:27 We know. Yeah, they are called grays. Correct. I used to be terrified just looking at pictures, and my brother knew this. He showed me, laughed at me when I started crying, and then our mom yelled at us both before sending us to bed. Oh, I've had so many scenarios like that growing up.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Do you remember the show Ka-Blam? Yes, I do. Ka-Blam! On Nickelodeon, if you're 30 years old. Yes, those little stick figures. So there was one segment on there that was about a caveman and an alien that was really funny. It was called Prometheus and Bob. Going back and looking at it now, I love it.
Starting point is 00:45:58 It's as funny as those goofy cartoons. It's also the true history of Earth and Man. Yes, exactly. But when I was a kid, the intro to that segment scared the shit out of me. It has major X-Files intro vibes, and it was so scary for me as a young kid that I didn't want to see it when it came on. Just the intro. I actually don't remember the intro.
Starting point is 00:46:19 It was too scary to look at, I remember. Too scary to look at. I have no idea what was scary about it now, watching it again, but man. Anyway, after getting grounded sent to bed, let's continue. So if there was a ghost there that night, it got energy through my fear and crying through those pictures because their brothers mean. This happened to me when I was 13, maybe 13 years old. My younger sister and I used to share a bedroom when we were just sleeping like normal that night.
Starting point is 00:46:44 When my younger sister and I fell asleep, I have no idea what time it was, but the bedroom door suddenly flew open. The door handle hit the wall hard enough to make a loud noise and it woke me up. It must not have been that loud because my sister only rolled around, and I'm a really light sleeper. Because of my sleep state, I didn't really process what happened right away, but I was alert all of a sudden when I heard what sounded like scratching on my wall. It was as if someone had short nails and were just running it over the texture of the wall.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Nothing ear-shattering, but definitely creepy. Our bed faces the wall, and even though it was night time, there was enough moonlight in the hallway to bleed into the room and show me that nothing was really in front of me. Obviously, I'm pretty awake and scared at this point, but I just grip my blankets tighter. The noise stops pretty soon after before the TV suddenly turns on. This is the strangest part because I had the remote beside me on the bedside,
Starting point is 00:47:37 and no one was in front of me. And with the TV to shed some light, I could definitely see that no one was there. The whole event, doors, door, scratching noise and TV had to have only taken about two minutes in total. It all happened so quickly and suddenly. I held still in complete panic for a few minutes. I thought the TV would do that scary movie trope where it shows me something, but it didn't.
Starting point is 00:48:00 It was just a pure, just a blue or black screen. It's an old TV, so I can't remember what it actually shows. Waiting for my game system to turn on so I could show stuff. After realizing nothing else was happening, I woke up my sister because I'm a jerk and was too scared to move, and convinced her to go close the door while I turned off the TV. She was a really heavy sleeper, but to this day, I'm still shocked she didn't wake up.
Starting point is 00:48:22 I asked my brother about it the next day, thinking he did this as a prank to screw with me after the alien pictures thing, but he swears he didn't. My brother is not the best liar, and when confronted, he usually confesses right away, but when I talked to him, he really had no idea what I was talking about, and even said that I would have been able to see him from the TV light. A couple months later, he did try to reenact this event to mess with me,
Starting point is 00:48:46 but from the second he opened my door, I could see his figure so that further cemented the fact that the first event was not him. There's so many things that have happened to me like this in my life, and I like hate it. Oh, that's awful. So there you have it, nothing terrifying, and I've never had any other event beside this one, but it was enough to make me believe that ghosts probably exist.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I like to think that they do, but I also don't point any, but I also don't point any little creepy events to ghosts. When I tell the story, I get a mix of its ghosts or aliens messing with me. I don't think it's aliens, I'm just saying. See, they're ghosts or aliens. I have a very thin wall on one of the walls of my apartment with my neighbor, and it's like the wall where both of our kitchen cabinets, both touch it from either side of the wall.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And so whenever they go into their cabinets and shit, I can hear it. When the doors to their cabinets close and shit like that, I can hear it. So a lot of the time when I'm up late at night doing whatever the fuck I do in the middle of the night, looking at my TV and whatever, like on YouTube, looking at gross videos, sweet videos. I'll hear a noise and it'll like freak me out. But usually I'm like, oh, it was just the fucking neighbors, right? Or like, oh, it's like this one chip inside this bag of chips,
Starting point is 00:50:03 finally settling or something like that. Yeah, but one time I heard a guy do like a full on flatball change in my kitchen, like a fucking tap dancing guy. And what? It was so loud, so much more loud and so much more like unique of a sound that it sounded exactly like a man tap dancing. And I got up and I went over there to see what it was thinking that Wallace had like fucked something up royally or whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:28 And yeah, no one was there. Wallace was not in the room. I was totally alone. I still have no idea what it was. And all logic dictates that it was my neighbors. But it was just, you know, just that little bit different. Where you're used to everything else. So you would you would be you're not trying to be unreasonable. It's just that little bit enough different to fuck you up. Well, that's creepy as hell.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Jesse, the next one's all you. Okay. This one has no name, but it's called dream. It's called dreams or parallel worlds. So I'm sure Alex can deep dive and find us who this was. Dreams, excuse me, dreams and parallel worlds. Sometimes I have incredibly, all right. Sometimes I have incredibly realistic dreams that are odd.
Starting point is 00:51:17 So it is possible that when we dream, we see parallel worlds. Often when I dream, they're just jumbles of nothing. Things that don't make sense and so easily forgotten. One of these realistic dreams involved a desolate snowy world with fallen skyscrapers filling this otherwise white tundra with no trees or mountains on site or in sight. Excuse me. Two people bundled up in thick clothing, head to one of the fallen skyscrapers. Inside the skyscrapers are cubicle walls and papers.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Ever the building. I guess in everything maybe and papers and papers and everything. The building is rigged with a generator also inside is an older man working on a robot he believes will help save the world. Personally, I don't see how editorial commentary on your own fucking dream. I love that though. I'm unsure as to why this world is so desolate. I know it's worse than it appears.
Starting point is 00:52:21 One of the two people headed inside messed up and left a small fire running just a bit too long outside and alerted others. These others are similar to humans, but with light pale green skin and they live deep underground. Creepily, they capture humans, though they do not eat the dead. That is not their goal in capturing humans. Really, they chain people along the belly and one leg. The goal of tightly packing people is to produce heat. Rather creepy world, I think.
Starting point is 00:52:51 They kidnap the people to make them to use their body heat. That's so inefficient. They eat the dead, but breed them for their heat. No, that's not what they. Oh, though they do eat the dead, that's not their goal. Oh, okay. They are not above eating us, but they're actually doing it because they need to be warm. Yeah, interesting.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Sounds like someone played Metro Exodus. Yeah, all right. So, I mean, just off the, from Jump Street, this seems like one of those dreams I think a lot of people have that they want to try and make deeper meaning out of it. But it seems like you, like everyone else, take in a lot of cool media, and this is just your mind jumbling that media together. There's a lot of things from different bits of media and different things here that are combined together.
Starting point is 00:53:42 And your brain just, you know, sometimes it's not always your brain working through things. Sometimes your brain is just putting bits of information that you've stored in it together. And sometimes this happens. But if you like, you want to get deep dive into things. Um, I mean, frozen worlds, uh, uh, like the idea of a tundra, snow, it's all very like, um, being emotionally frozen or cold or distant. And, uh, I can see two people representing what most people consider like a relationship and how someone in this relationship left something unfinished or did something wrong
Starting point is 00:54:29 and how it like exposed problems, right? Cause the green people would be the problems coming from the relationship. And green obviously can either be greed or jealousy, right? Or just the concept of growth, right? Cause things grow and they're green. So maybe it's going to be a good or positive thing. Who knows? It also could be terrible, right?
Starting point is 00:54:50 Like the thing that was exposed was growing jealousy between the two people, right? Uh, and then there's a guy working on a way to fix a thing, but you personally don't see how that thing he's creating, this artificial thing could possibly save these two people, for example. So like that's the deep dive and like you're working through some stuff, but really it also most likely, cause I've had dreams like this. It's just kind of like a bunch of cool stuff you put together and now it's a cool dream. Like it's possible.
Starting point is 00:55:18 It's an allegory for America. It's an allegory for life. It's an allegory for a lot of things. I would be more interested. Like for example, I constantly have dreams set in this hotel with a lot of tropical plant life outside that I don't really see, but I know is somehow somewhere in the hotel is on fire. I have a dream like that where I return to that place.
Starting point is 00:55:40 I return to that place all the time. I know that it's like kind of a common thing for things to be on fire in people's dreams, like for some reason. It's like one of the things like the tropes, like your teeth falling out, something like that is like, oh, this room is on fire. Like if you've ever seen, I forget what movie it is. Think it's science asleep. There's like one of those where they go into the dreams
Starting point is 00:56:01 and it's like one of them is on fire. But I would be interested to know if this is a recurring setting for your dreams because I think those are the, I think those dreams are very interesting. Well Alex, I mean, going into your dream, the idea, I'm going to go into your head for a minute. The idea of having a dream where you know there's a problem and you can't see it. It's the concept of like an ever looming. Like there's something in your life is stressing you out.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And the idea that you know it's there and it's a big problem, right? Something's on fire, but you cannot physically address it because you don't know where it's coming from. I mean, that's a huge thing that a lot of people have. How good that could be. They have a lot of things. What in the world is causing stress that we have no direct control? It's wild.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Yeah, it's you know, you can't control it. I mean, that's that's a simple one. Yeah, it resonates with me. Boys, listeners, that's it for reader stories today. Okay. We're going to cut it there. Love to see it. You do love to see it.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Great stories all the way around. I enjoyed the drug journeys today. That was a lot of fun. Two very different drug journeys. I'm sorry to both of you, but I also kind of am jealous of both of you. Is that weird? A little bit. I am too.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I am too. No, I'm good. I don't need to experience with my mouth. We will return next week if you win. We'll have a mini-soad after this as well. So if you guys want to go listen to the mini-soad, head over to the Patreon. You can jump onto one of the tiers.
Starting point is 00:57:27 You get something. You got ad free episodes. You got exclusive digital posters. You got the mini-soads that we're going to go do. What doesn't it have honestly? You know what I mean? Honestly, the contract to my soul. I don't know what a better Patreon anywhere.
Starting point is 00:57:41 There is none. But you know what? If you bring Mathis some powers or abilities, he'll give. You can get a soul tier. I hear that. Yeah. If you are.
Starting point is 00:57:47 That's the highest tier. Listen, $100,000 tier. I'll pay a scientist to give me powers. What? $100,000 tier. I'll pour chemicals on Mathis and electrocute him at the same time. Done in a pool of water. Something's got to take.
Starting point is 00:58:01 Nothing's got to take. I got to walk out of there with some new ability. I'm just going to be the Jesse Cox show after you're dead and Alex is in jail. You know what? No, that's a lie because I was here when it was planned. So I'm going to go to jail too. The crazy thing would be is if I was in jail and the episodes just kept coming out. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:58:19 Fall back, episode 69. Thanks for listening, everybody. We'll see you next time. Goodbye. Episode 69. Anyway, me and my wife were sitting outside indulging on our porch one night enjoying ourselves. I needed to go to the bathroom, so I stepped back inside and after a few moments, I hear my wife go, holy shit, get out here.
Starting point is 00:58:39 So I quickly dash back outside. She's looking up at the sky in the fall. I look up too, and there's a perfect line of dozen lights traveling across the sky. Geico presents daily affirmations. Repeat after me. We can overcome any challenge. We can overcome any challenge. Like when we left our interior lights on and our battery died.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Like when we left our interior lights at the, what? Good thing Geico's got emergency roadside service. It was available 24-7 on the Geico app. Good thing Geico has emergency roadside. Now we feel very relaxed. I feel a bit tuckered out actually. Uh, am I still supposed to be repeating after you? Oh, not at night.
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