Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 84 - The Alien Jizz Incident Part 1

Episode Date: January 12, 2021

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Starting point is 00:01:30 Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the Chilluminati Podcast, episode 85 now. 84. 84. 84. 84. 84. Thank you, man. Whatever you want it to be. It is. Until we get to like 90 and 100, not a huge deal. Doesn't matter. 100? What are we going to do for the 100th episode? What is that going to be? We're going to do... It depends on who's in control of the 100th episode. We're going to do mushrooms and just let it ride. I don't think that's going to happen. Oh yeah, we're going to turn you around. We're going to open our eyes during episode 100. We're going to be meth. I'm going to see myself deconstructed before my own eyes.
Starting point is 00:02:23 You're going to solve yourself and then you're going to disappear. I wasn't meth. Kidnapped by air hypnosis, of course. This is opening up like chaos because this is an Alex episode today, everybody, and I'm so excited to hand the reins off to Alex today. I'm so excited to talk about patreon.com slash Chilluminati Podcast. No, we have to stop. We have to preface this by something even more important to show first. Oh my, okay. We only have four days left when this video goes up to get that Chupacabra t-shirt before it's gone forever. Oh man. So go get it while you can. On the 15th of January, it is gone forever.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Scoop it up. Scoop it. Scoop that shirt. Scoop that shirt. Get that shirt. Suck the butt off of that shirt. All right. No, no. Guys, come to Chilluminati Pod on Patreon, where not only do we get to continue making this show every week for you, we also get, you know, to have a researcher in Deanna who is like literally the unsung hero of the show. Like, I mean, not even unsung at this point. Like MK Ultra would not exist without you guys coming and supporting us on Patreon. So if you like stuff like that and you like getting 15 minutes more of Chilluminati every week right after this, we just record right after we talk about all the stuff you text us, tweet us about all the stuff where you're like, have you heard about this?
Starting point is 00:03:40 That's what we talk about. It is on the mini. So please head over to Chilluminati pod on Patreon patreon.com slash Chilluminati pod and you can become part of the Chilluminati. Join the Chilluminati. Become a Chilluminati. Yeah, you can be. No, that's just all the listeners actually. When are we going to do like a live show again? What's going on with this world? What's going on, man? Did you get it? I think if you go to Florida, it's first come first served a vaccine. I'm just saying like, come on, come on, planet Earth, get your shit together. Haven't you heard? There's been a virus, Jesse. Why can't we do like an LA live show? Let's make this happen. I would love it. I would love to do that, right?
Starting point is 00:04:19 Once one in five people who take a COVID test don't have it, I think we'll be back. I'm going to say it is we wait until like the summer and then we invite people out for a show and just to be sure, we get giant backpacks full of Santas and we spray down the crowd. That sounds like me in March of 2020. Probably by summer. We'll just bring people down and we'll just be like, come to the show and it'll be fine. There's nothing people who are fans of conspiracy podcasts like more than being sprayed with straight chemicals. They love it. Don't worry, it's good for you. It's mind protecting chemicals. Like you can't be tricked if you have them on you.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Right, right, right, right, right. The other kind of virus, you know what I mean? Mind virus. The mind virus. Going to get those mind viruses under control before they do damn it. That's, that's real guys. Let's be real. Okay. And you want you guys ready to get into this? I don't know, man. I don't know what's happening today. I don't know what's going on nor weeks. For four weeks, we have been awkwardly laughing at illegal government activity and abuses of power that have just been dominating this show. But I finally decided
Starting point is 00:05:36 to turn off CNN and listen to our podcast instead in the M.K. Ultra episode, which also happened after everything. One of the main things that was crazy about it that stuck with me was just this image of the bacteria test that you were talking about, you know, the like idea that like the Oh, the people going in and like spray testing, like just like like dusting San Fran with like bacteria and then it like started to like collect on like buildings and people were starting to get sick stuff like that. One person died because they had a bladder surgery and then they started peeing red and it just killed them. It really, it really fucked me up. Like it was like a really weird thing to think about. And it was just like this imagery that was
Starting point is 00:06:19 like in my brain. And it was like Silent Hill vibes or Mario the movie where there's like the king is like the mushrooms that are everywhere. That's where you went mentally or like it's like the Mario movie where Koopa is a man. And at the end, well, but the king is a dinosaur and a bomb mushrooms. I mean, he did. The king is every mushroom, right? You've been working with Alex for how many years and you're surprised. That's why I'm always surprised when anyone brings up the Mario movie. I can't remember if it's the Mario movie or if it's the War of the Worlds Tom Cruise that has like all the crap everywhere. And this is off topic, but I would have given so much to have pre pre-filming and post-filming drinks with Bob Hoskins and just to hear. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:07:04 He probably would have hit you. He probably would have hit you in that movie. Probably would have beat the shit out of you just to make himself feel better. But anyway, I used that concept as the jumping off point for like what was inspiring me for my next mystery. I was trying to like, I had two goals, right? I had that in one on the one hand. And the other goal that I had was that I wanted to find something that was just like a little lighter in tone, something that we can just like talk about instead of like not wanting to hear more about it. Less upsetting. And after diving through a bunch of posts on Reddit, old Internet articles, YouTube video or two, I ended up with a two-parter that I ended up stringing together out of this.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And it is so much more nuts. And it goes so many like completely unexpected places. I don't even know like what you're going to like call this. Like, I don't know what you're like, like when people like go and see Chiluminati Episode 84 and it has a title, I don't know what it's going to be. I'm sure you'll you've done episodes where I have had to go Alex's Internet mysteries. Like just sure. That's fine. How about this one? That's what you should call this one. How about this? How about this shit? We've got Jesse's history's mystery analysis. How about this shit? Bullshit. All right. But you know what? Don't worry, because I think not only is Jesse going to be happy because there's a lot of science and like facts with this one, but also
Starting point is 00:08:28 Mathis is going to be happy because he has specific interests that he needs to be catered to. And I think between what does that mean? Can you just like what does that mean? We're in a perfect Venn diagram. Okay, like we have like science and Mathis likes one. I don't want to spoil it exactly, but we'll get into it. I don't know if he's going to because if he says that he immediately loses you, Jesse. That's what I'm waiting for. It's very sciencey. So aliens. I'm like, oh, here we go. Almost everyone in this is an expert or a scientist or like a military person. So that's good. I also want to shout out to Reddit user Lucy Kat writes. I want to shout out to YouTuber Lazy Masquerade and like a million Spanish, French and Portuguese journalists
Starting point is 00:09:15 that like, I don't even know. I don't even know. I don't speak those languages. I had to like take people's words for a lot of the translation, but I'm going to post links. I have the links for you guys for later when you guys are inevitably going to start looking up this stuff. But if you speak Portuguese or you speak Spanish or you speak French very well and also speak English very well, you don't have to speak English that well. I'm pretty good at figuring out what people are trying to say. But like, if you have, if you notice any inconsistencies between what I am reporting and what is in the actual articles, please let me know. But I tried my best to be really accurate. So that's, that's where I'm at. It was just, it was just a little bit of a barrier
Starting point is 00:09:56 because this mystery I don't think is one that comes out in the English speaking world too much for this reason. You know what I mean? Just because it wasn't like world news headlines. And so it just sort of stayed in Portugal. You know, I think that's where, at least in Europe, let's say. But anyway, let's go to Portugal now where we're going to meet a man called Tomá George da Conce Sao Silva. And today, I don't know if he's dead or not actually, because I, again, he does not have a Wikipedia article in English just in Portuguese. But he's a, as far as I can tell, he's a retired four star general in the Portuguese Air Force right now. He's very old, like 90 years old or something like that. But at the time of when this went down on November 2nd,
Starting point is 00:10:44 1959, he was just a pilot at the Cintra Air Base in Portugal, which was located near Lisbon, a big city in Portugal, on the coast. Okay. So the ingredients you're putting into this little super, everything I like to hear. We got four star Air Force pilots. We got Mr. The 50s. Very important. It's a good time. Yeah. It's a good time, man. So far, so good. So he's going through pre-flight with a couple other pilots on the runway. He's literally ready to go. He's in, like he is in his cockpit, like ready to go to turning on his plane. When all of a sudden, they have to like stop everything and get back out because they start to notice this like weird, like build up on their canopy, like this weird like stuff is like getting on the plane. And
Starting point is 00:11:31 they're like, what the fuck is that? So they're like, all get out. And they're like, what is this? It's like on them. It's like this weird white shit. And it's building up on their hair and it's building up on their uniforms. And even weirder as they're seeing it, it's falling from the sky in like little threads, like white filament threads that are just like like softly falling from the sky. And they're just like, would you describe it kind of spider webby? Like yes, actually. Yes. Because a lot of the, a lot of the stuff that I looked up when talking about this comes is spiders and I'll explain that in a second. But apparently the whole strangeness of it lasted only about 30 minutes, but that's like a pretty long time. If you consider like why
Starting point is 00:12:14 what it was, but it was enough a problem. It took them like they had to stop and like hose off all their shit. And it was unsettling enough that Silva, the pilot, finally decided that he had to call up his father, who just happened to be another, he's like a prominent Portuguese, like astronomer, like sort of intellectual person. He's also in the Navy as professors named Eugenio Correa de Cance, Silva. And he, he's a professor who taught for the Portuguese Navy. So he calls him and he's like, what the fuck? Like, let me tell you about this shit. And so right away after hearing about this, his father is like, okay, well, it's probably those flying spiders, right? I don't know if you know about. That's what my mind immediately. I don't know if you know about these. If you're
Starting point is 00:13:02 listening to the show, but one of the things that certain spiders do is they just sort of like sit there and like shoot out little wisps that are like so light that they just kind of like get caught in the air current and like the static electricity and the air sort of just like takes them away, you know, activates, takes them away. And in like overnight, you can wake up and you know, there'll be like a field that's just like covered in spider webs. It's like crazy. Kind of gross. A lot of the spiders die, like I would say one in five things that are like invertebrates flying through the air are spiders, which is crazy to think about. But a lot of spiders die. But typically you find spiders around and that's called ballooning
Starting point is 00:13:49 when spiders do that. That's like that's like the official name of it. And thank you for that science tidbit. Yeah, apparently apparently it's something that happens a lot in Australia. Like, I guess they just have like hello spiders over there. I've never seen it in person. I hope I never will see it. But it's also like this is all great, but I would never like to see this. Yeah, I would never want to like walk out into a forest and realize I was in like web world. But it's also really not a thing in that part of Portugal, right? And this and his son didn't see any spiders anywhere. There was no like evidence of anything like attached to the strength. It was just really this white sort of crap. And it was like literally enough of it at
Starting point is 00:14:32 some places like normally, you know, you can imagine if you've ever seen a bush covered in spider webs, like that's what those spiders leave. But this was like there was so much falling that like on the ground, it was like clumping up like how snow clumps up. Like there was a lot of it. And so he decided to get a second opinion. His father did. From a biologist friend of his, a professor called Antonio Joaquim Guedes do Amaral, who was the headmaster of the commercial and industrial school of Evora, Portugal, which is another town about 60 miles away, right? But the fucked up thing was this guy, Amaral already knew all about this shit, because apparently the same exact fucking thing was happening where he was at the same time. And he saw even more shit.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Because apparently earlier that morning, he was sitting at his desk in his office, mining his own business, doing boring professor shit. I don't know, like shuffling the same stack of papers for two hours. I don't know what they do. But when he started hearing like people outside, like making commotion and like screaming with excitement, like really like, oh my god, whoa, whoa, whoa, what the fuck? Right. And he starts coming out to see what it is. He runs into some students who take him outside to show him the quote, strange airplane that was flying over the town. And sure enough, when he got to the street, there was a small, bluish gray elliptical object up in the sky, looked to be about the size of a passenger plane. And it was flying like in a very strange
Starting point is 00:16:05 pattern, very erratically. And at first, he thought it was probably, you know, he's a sensible guy. He's like a biologist, right? He thought it was probably just an illusion that was like being caused by something in the atmosphere, because it really wasn't flying in a way that looked like any sort of manmade device could fly. It was very much like speeding up and slowing down against the laws of physics, kind of like that, that craft in that to the stars footage, right? If you can imagine. But then he decided, you know what, actually, he went back up to his office to his telescope and like cited it in the window and like looked through it. And what he saw like blew his mind. It was a real object. It wasn't a reflection because he was able to track it in
Starting point is 00:16:51 his telescope. Upon looking at it closer, it seemed to be like seamless. No wings, no windows, no visible method of propulsion. And its flight pattern was literally like I just like I said, they like it would go really fast, like faster than anything you ever see fly. Then it would like stop the dead ass in the air and then fly away. And as he was doing this, even more amazingly, a second one showed up a few minutes later. And the only difference was this one was so quote colossal that it made the first passenger jet sized one seem tiny, right? So now everybody in the town of Avora, Portugal is looking at this thing. It's huge. And there's a little one flying around now with it. The first one was like the scout almost or something. And for like 30 minutes,
Starting point is 00:17:43 this thing flies around the town, the small one orbiting the large one as they both move in a quote jellyfish like pattern. Remember that sometimes decreasing significantly in altitude so that they couldn't really tell exactly how big it was. You know what I mean? They're just guessing that like the small one was about the size of a passenger plane. The other one they can just say it was much bigger because it kept coming closer and moving farther away. And they just sort of lost their sense of it in that way. And then suddenly they both just like like Superman taking off like just go. You know what I mean? Like just like one second they're there in the next second they like jumped a light speed kind of deal like gone, right? And that's when in
Starting point is 00:18:24 Avora, the white threads started falling, right? So again, everyone's first thought was these spiders ballooning, right? Yeah, no. Yeah, I mean, it's like sounds like ectoplasm or something. Yeah, you're telling me this is when a spaceship jumps into hyperspace. This is like in the new Star Trek movies, you know, when they're like warp speed and it goes shoot up and there's like little sparkles left behind. You're telling me that the silk is the sparkles are left behind when this stuff jumps into warp speed? Well, honestly, I would say that that would be like a great, great like theory. And some people do think that it has something to do with that, like when like today, like some people when they talk about this, they say maybe it's like some
Starting point is 00:19:13 sort of like residue from space travel, right? But or dimension shifting, which is where my mind went. Yeah, but check this out. Nobody nobody saw any spiders again, right? So that was the first thing like you would think there were hundreds of people in the street, you'd think, oh, they'd be like, oh, there's like spiders everywhere. It's like a spider thing. But it wasn't. And it was clumping just like it did at the airbase. And so fucking Professor Amaral, the genius, did again something that no one almost no one ever does in this situation, which is he was already in his lab. He grabbed a fucking Petri dish from his lab and ran outside and caught some of that shit in the fucking Petri dish, just like this, like held it out like and he caught some fucking some
Starting point is 00:19:58 fucking alien threads, alien. And this isn't a, you know, one time occurrence. People, you know, looking at this now, you can look back and you can Google this stuff because people call it angel hair. And there's a very good reason for that thing. I love it. And so he finally he went in. He had a he had a 120 X microscope in his lab. Because again, this is like 1959. So like, you know, that's pretty good. We've nuked people a decade ago. We've got some science chops. This is just like his personal microscope 120 X. And he got it onto a slide and it reveals what seems to be a tiny organism with a unicellular core. And when he pushed it between the slides, like put a little pressure on it, 10 slightly darker tentacles covered in clear yellowish
Starting point is 00:20:52 slime emerged from the core and expanded and moved around. And it reacted to stimuli. And unbelievably, it seemed like it was alive, right? So he, you know, doesn't go crazy yet. He packs the shit up because he's the headmaster of a fucking college. He's a biologist. He sends it to the University of Biological Sciences in Lisbon, who were very skeptical at first. You know, when he was like, OK, there was a spaceship and this shit like fell and I caught it and here it is. Right. So they were like, OK, whatever. And they started looking at it and they're like, what the fuck? Because they they have like the real daddy microscopes over there, right? Like so they can get some much better data. And there are pictures of all of this,
Starting point is 00:21:39 by the way. They're not amazing because they're from an old newspaper. But you can absolutely find these. I will link them. They're hard to find because they're not in English and it's PDFs of microfiche. So it's a hard thing to share even with you guys, but I will share it. I have it. And these things had, according to them, who could view it in proper lighting conditions and and stuff like that. The central little core is yellow in color and the tentacles were bright red when when when looked at properly. And they discovered that under stress, they exhibited, quote, intense defensive reactions akin to an animal. Because apparently they were just too fast and too intelligent for any plant life that we know on earth, even like even like the ones
Starting point is 00:22:28 that eat shit are like nothing compared to how fast the shit was reacting. You know, what does I think called the Venus flytrap? Like faster than that. And apparently this life form that they had, it was so strong that at one point it actually tried to it actually pushed the slide apart a little bit and like disrupted the viewing because it was so active. It like actually was able to lift the two slides apart. And similar like along those lines, they also found that the central core could withstand about 350 grams of pressure before just like they suddenly would like turn dark brown and like die. Right. Assuming it was alive in the first place. Right. Right. And here it from here's a quote about that from the final report. And I just would love it,
Starting point is 00:23:21 Mathis, if you would just read this. Sure. Quote for me there. Tentacles are formed of parallel filaments joined together by a gelatinous substance. Each filament or strand is transparent showing corpuscules inside of it, whose number increases over time. These filament projects, these filaments project strongly on the glass sheet, drawing on it a perfectly defined contact line where certain seem to emerge in organized formations. In the middle of the central body, there is a mouth shaped opening around which there are very fine lines corresponding perhaps to existing folds or fissures in the substance that composes it. One can also see dark and round spots that draw a pentagonal shape that becomes increasingly
Starting point is 00:24:05 regular. Yeah. So this is real science by real observational biologists really writing about something that they really had on hand in their lab. Right. And here and here's a few more things from other experts that they pulled in from specific areas of study to look at this and talk about it. These are like pull quotes from the Reddit write up that I was looking at. There's an expert biologist professor called Santos that said, quote, the only animals I can think of that could resemble this being are the Coalentorata, which are like tiny little coral jellyfish, tiny boys. But I confess that my knowledge of biology is insufficient to classify this particular organism. Basically, like
Starting point is 00:24:52 I don't know. I couldn't tell you like I'm a biologist expert. I couldn't tell you. Another leading biologist, a guy named Professor Codeinho said, all I can tell from looking at it is that it's some form of being, but I cannot tell you what it is because it is unlike anything I've seen before. They also just to make sure that it wasn't a plant brought in the Professor Emeritus of Botanics and the general director of the National Institute of Botanics is somebody named Dr. Recende, who puts that to bed and says, the sample you send me is of an animal, and thus we consider it outside our field of expertise. So they're like, it's not a plant. And finally, a very interesting, another prominent scientist on the condition of anonymity,
Starting point is 00:25:36 because he realized the gravity of what he was saying. It was a scientist of repute in this report. Who said, quote, it can it can be admitted that such beings could come from the Earth's extra atmospheric space or from a neighboring planet. A couple other theories that were floated around including deep sea debris, which somehow could like get on a weather balloon. I don't really understand how that's possible. I guess like if it launches from the ocean, like maybe somehow it could like take it up and condense and like drop it over the sky. I really don't quite understand the theory. Another theory is like some MK ultra style shit. This is where my inspiration. This is how I found this. Yeah. It's like some type of Cold War military experiment, like probably not
Starting point is 00:26:24 Portugal's military, but like, you know, could be any of the other dickish world powers out there that love to exert their will over unwilling strangers. But unfortunately, none of these hypotheses ever really got to be investigated because of the way that Portugal was at the time in the 60s, because apparently nationalism and like strict old school religious values were like in at the time. Yeah. And when he tried to translate his findings to share with other countries, scientists in other countries, Professor Amaral was literally threatened with suspension and or worse. And while like I say, there are a few articles in Spanish and French and Portuguese. This one never really made it to that legendary status, even though
Starting point is 00:27:17 it has some of the best evidence ever, ever recorded about something like this. Like it is like that's like I'm thinking of yours. I'm like, how have we never heard? How have I never heard of this incident? He literally got pressure from the government, got laughed off it. And like it checks all those boxes of weird extraterrestrials, like the seamless metals, no wings, like, you know, something bigger in a scout type ship, leaving a hot behind debris. Yeah. It's that language barrier. It's that language barrier. It just stops you sometimes. Like you just can, especially because it's Portuguese, which is like not a widely spoken language compared to, say, Spanish. I mean, it's a it's one of the top ones,
Starting point is 00:27:57 but like compared to how many people people speak English or, you know, or how many people speak Spanish or Chinese, you know, it's not it's not one of the main main ones. So it's hard to spread it and it's from the 60s. But there's also more to that. So by the time Amaral died in the 90s, like I said, he kind of became people would like bust into his office and like be like aliens, like all the time to the point to the point that he would not even talk about it in public. This is the thing I want to make clear. These would be I know there are people out there who think aliens are going to make them famous, especially nowadays. But people who have had alien like things come up, it's ruined their lives more often than not. Nobody's ever like,
Starting point is 00:28:36 it's true. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Never does anybody come out and be like, I'm now a millionaire and I have the legions of fans. It's like, I got laughed out of my job or I got my family like disowning, like accepting some few key cases, you know, you minor key cases. Yeah. But yeah, so he literally decided I'm not going to talk about this in public ever again, no more angel hair, just in the interest of his academic reputation. But he did keep all his research and he has tons of eyewitness accounts of people in town, hundreds of them. And he has a list of other events around the world that are similar to the one that he experienced. However, unfortunately, in 1978, there was a fire at the University of Lisbon on March 18th.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And I got just because that sounds like bullshit. I looked up a quote from the October 1978 issue of the science magazine, science. And it said, quote, destroyed the central building, which housed the National Museum of Natural History, the Geophysical Institute and nine research centers. Extensive losses were sustained to both laboratory equipment and publications as well as to museum collections. So it was a real just utter academic disaster. And, you know, it's so it so much stuff was lost that it's like ridiculous to think that in the context of this story that, you know, somebody burnt the library to get rid of the samples. But, you know, it really did happen, you know, so, you know, that stuff does happen. Those sci fi movie tropes sometimes are real.
Starting point is 00:30:14 And as a result, like I said, all original samples were lost. There is some rumor of one sample from 1960 that just went somewhere that's like not been accounted for. But in all likelihood, it is also probably gone. But in 1980, two years later, all the research that the professor did, as well as pictures of the creature were reexamined by an expert cell biologist and professor emeritus at the University of Lisbon called Professor Azevedo. Okay. And so that was in 1980 that he did that. And then in 2008, just 12 years ago, even though he's retired now, he decided at this point to like take those notes out for when he did that and like go back and revisit it with like modern science and like see what he did because he actually, after he retired, he decided to
Starting point is 00:31:05 dedicate the rest of his life to studying unknown cellular structures and like uncovering the unknown in cellular biology. So this was like right up his alley. So in 2008, he did this and here's a quote for you to read, Jesse. From what I can tell from the photos I was sent and that I am now reexamining many decades later, this structure or micro organism, as some call it, is still unknown to contemporary science. It is made up of a body with 10 arms and its appearance vaguely resembles a starfish. The photos do not show any type of cellular organization. I was unable to identify a singular structure akin to an earthly single cell organism. Almost 50 years later, I reread the reports, including my own report, and I restate what I
Starting point is 00:31:56 wrote back then. This could have been an organism. However, the samples were not prepared correctly by Amaro back in 1959, which makes it impossible for me to make an educated guess. Yeah, kind of crazy, right? What do you mean it was like improperly? It just like wasn't done in like laboratory condition. Like he just fucking took it outside and cocked it. Oh, because he went outside and scooped it out of the sky. Now, I want to get, so I was like, I've been down the rabbit hole of you been talking where I was like, there has to be a photo of this, right? There has to be. There's plenty of photos.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I just, this is like, if you want to include this, Mathis. Sure. That is a medium article about this entire situation. And if you scroll down enough, it has newspaper clippings and a photo of what I just described. Yeah. I mean, there's there's a lot of technically bits coming off the end. It's wild looking. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah. That is wild looking, dude. Yeah. It is. It is quite remarkable, right? Now, there are still other experts out there who've looked at this, right? And while they obviously haven't been able to come to like a consensus, right? In general, the idea of them being linked to jellyfish is the most common, like linking element of all these people's studies, right? The ideas about how they came to be in the sky span everything from
Starting point is 00:33:31 evaporating baby jellyfish off the surface of the ocean into the like the weather system, which I guess could happen. I don't know why that would happen, like not during rain, that they would just like cascade down to earth. These like when you and then like they eventually just dissolve. Yeah. Yeah. Just like a spider web. This is low key. If anyone watched the Watchmen series on HBO. Yes. It's just like that. It's crazy. Yes. Such a good show. Everybody should go watch that show. The first episode of that is like you get a fucking message sent to you from that. Yes, you do. Okay. Another another way, another like anything like I said, some people think that it comes off the surface. Let me let me tangent here for a minute because
Starting point is 00:34:13 a lot of more alien things I just want to talk about. So the more I've been obviously the more I read about aliens do my own research, the more I'm curious if they're actually more if they're real interdimensional and potentially even terrestrial. So I'm curious because you keep saying jellyfish. I wonder if it falls into theory that if these were extraterrestrial of some sort, they're not from space, they're from our ocean because there's a lot of theories and the ones that I personally, I think probably put a little bit more weight to when we talked about that thing. What was that weird science object that geologists use that just got ripped out and just disappeared like what we talked about in a mini soda while ago? Yeah. Do you remember
Starting point is 00:34:49 that the like a science studying seismic thing? It just it looked like it's something ripped the wires. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It looks like a beast. Either way, like I would I would put it that this probably fits more that these things maybe come from the ocean. Yeah. Or if you imagine like a super light creature, like a super like very like air based creature that is maybe like one big sort of algae cloud, like imagine like you look at all the clouds and there's like one cloud in there that you don't know, but it's like a living organism. And this is how explain the ships and this is how it like reproduces. I don't know about the ships. I don't know what to tell you about the ships. I mean, they may not be connected at all. They may not be connected at all. It
Starting point is 00:35:35 just could be circumstance. I mean, I'll connect the ships a little more if you'd like. But that's literally like the two big ones are the evaporation out of the ocean or like maybe it's the reproductive cycle of some like angler fish type creature, but of the sky, like some creature that lives below a depth that we ever will visit easily. It's just something that's like so high up in the atmosphere that we just don't have a good way of like being up there long enough to see it in any meaningful way and notice it, right? But that that's where the Portuguese angel hair phenomenon of 1959 ends. But that's not where our story ends at all, because now it's time to take a look at other angel hair sightings around the world at a glance. Thanks to an article from Atlas Obscura
Starting point is 00:36:28 by Naomi Russo and a nice write up on science.howstuffworks.com. So on April 14th, 1561, the year of our Lord, you may have seen this rather famous broadsheet article. You know what a broadsheet is? It's like a pamphlet that you might hand out like a here ye style news pamphlet. That commemorates something crazy that happened. It's like a zine kind of, but it's from 1561. 1561 as zine. Yeah, it has this amazing picture. Like if you are in a UFO or like ancient aliens watch or you've probably seen this picture. But apparently, after a large black triangle object appeared in the sky and seemingly crashed outside of city limits, which is literally mentioned in this fucking broadsheet, witnesses saw hundreds of bizarre shapes moving erratically
Starting point is 00:37:25 through the air above them near dawn. Now, I have a quote. I have literally the text, some of the text of the broadsheet here for you, Mathis, if you would mind reading this for the people. I'll do my best. In the morning of April 14th, 1561, a daybreak between four and five a.m., a dreadful apparition occurred on the sun. And then this was seen in Nuremberg in the city before the gates and in the country by many men and women. At first, there appeared to be at first, there appeared. Oh, oh, oh, sorry, it's split into two. No, no, you're fine. You're fine. It's got to scroll back up. Hang on. At first, there appeared in the middle of the sun two blood red semicircular arcs, just like the moon in its last quarter. And in the sun above and below on both
Starting point is 00:38:08 sides, the color was blood. There stood a round ball of partly dull, partly black ferris color. Likewise, there stood on both sides and as a tourist about the sun, such blood red ones and other balls in large number, about three in a line and four in a square, also some alone. In between these globes, there were visible a few blood red crosses between which there were blood red strips becoming thicker to the rear and in the front malleable like the rods of reed grass, which were intermingled among them two big rods, one on the right and the other on the left. And within the small and big rods, there were all there were three, also four and more globes wrote real stupid back then. Don't worry, four and more. These also started to fight
Starting point is 00:38:56 among themselves so that the globes, which were first in the sun flew out to the one standing on both sides thereafter. The globe standing outside the sun and in the small and large rods flew into the sun. Besides the globes flew back and forth among themselves and fought vehemently with each other for over an hour. And when the conflict in and again out of the sun was most intense, they became fatigued to to such an extent that they all as above, wait, that they all, as said above, fell from the sun down upon the earth as if they all burned, and they then wasted away on the earth with immense smoke. After all this, after all this, there was something like a black spear, very long and thick sighted, the shaft pointed to the east, appointed, appointed,
Starting point is 00:39:42 appointed, appointed west. God damn, whatever each sign means, God alone knows. Yeah. So this is another classic. And during this also was angel hair raining down on people around the same time as as when everything just like sort of withered and became smoke or whatever. And this is not a unique type of broadsheet. There are many, many, many stories like this. And a lot of them are in Nuremberg for some reason. But I wanted to have you read this just because I wanted you to track the like sun discussion, the many objects discussion and and the fact that this is connected to angel hair, right? And apparently this event, along with 224 other like historical events between 679 AD and 2001 all ended with angel
Starting point is 00:40:38 hair falling from the sky. And of those 225 events, 57% are linked to a mass UFO sighting at the beginning of it. Like not just like one guy's story, but like this appeared over this city, right? Like something that's like really something probably happened, right? Also in 1477, white cotton like material fell from the sky in Japan for six straight hours after a luminous object crossed the sky. Also in Japan, 300 years later in 1702, at high noon, the sun turned blood red and strange white cotton hair fell to the ground. Uh, another major sighting occurred October 17th, 1950, 1952, in the sky over Oloran, France, when Jean-Yves Prigeant, a high school superintendent, along with hundreds of other
Starting point is 00:41:35 witnesses, noticed it, noticed that quote, a narrow cylinder apparently inclined at a 45 degree angle was slowly moving in a straight line towards the southwest with a sort of plume of white smoke escaping from its upper end and created a quote, cottony cloud of strange shape. A little in front of this, when viewed closely through binoculars or opera glasses, which apparently something people in France still had in the 50s, people also reported that there were 30 bright red spheres surrounded by yellow rings. And here's another quote from Prigeant, Jesse, if you want to read this little short boy right here for me, send that to you right now. Bang.
Starting point is 00:42:20 These saucers moved in pairs following a broken path characterized in general by rapid and short zigzags. When two saucers drew away from one another, a whitish streak like an electric arc was produced between them. Uh-huh. And then right after that is when the angel hair started falling. It rained down on everything. It wrapped itself around stuff like tree branches and telephone wires as it fell hanging from them. And apparently when people picked it up and rolled it into a ball, first it became like gelatinous and then eventually it just melted into nothing. There was even one dude who was on a bridge and he said that while he was watching, he was like on this bridge and the stuff around him that was falling got so thick that he literally had to cut himself
Starting point is 00:43:08 away from it. Like a fucking alien movie. I can't this happen to me. I know, right? I mean, that's my, look, that's my number one question just to begin with. Like, why did this stop in the fifties? I don't think it has. And I have some pretty good evidence for that. Why haven't, why aren't there modern versions of it? We're like, look at this. I took photos of it. You're only, you're only partially through the episode. I promise it's there. All right. I'm excited. Give me my alien. Also this dude who cut himself out of this shit. He says that after he cut it off of himself, it flew back up into the sky. That's a weird one. Also, I should say about that French event that 10 days later, 140 miles away in Gaillac, France, Gaillac, Gaillac.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Perfect. I don't, I'm sorry. I can't even tell that you're not French. France almost exactly the same thing happened again. According to witnesses, a cigar shaped leviathan was seen reeved in wisps of white clouds for 10 minutes above the town surrounded by 16 saucers before the angel hair started to fall. This time it's amazing how, how regular the ship shaped stay over the course of centuries. I know, right? Uh, this time the event was also observed. That seems like it's priming people too. Well, I mean, we'll talk about that stuff then. We'll talk about the similarities. This time the event was also observed by scientists at the briefs Sharon sock meteorological station. They only caught 30 seconds of the cloud cigar
Starting point is 00:44:40 doing its thing because it took them a minute to get everything going. But they also caught a silvery metallic disk crossing the sky towards the southeast at the exact same time. So that's like 20, 21, baby. Aliens are coming this year. That's another happening. That's another weird part of it. Stop getting yourself hyped for a thing that will not occur. It's happening. No, it's just not. It's not going to call on me, brother. And now it's calling you. No, they're calling you. They call the Alex notes. Oh, they're calling you. I don't know if they are. I don't know if they're calling specifically, but they're calling people. That's for sure. Not this podcast. They're not calling us. I want them to know. I wish they'd call
Starting point is 00:45:18 me up on my, my discord. Call me up aliens. Alex, it's me. Can you share your screen? I want to watch you play fucking league. Okay, I'm huge into fortnight. So the thing that I've been holding off on talking about, and this is like where we get into like, this is where it gets. We the story changes a little bit at this point. Okay. Perhaps the most notorious sighting of all of these happened also in Portugal, not too far from Evera and Lisbon in a place called Fatima. And if you're Catholic, you might know where I'm headed with this during the miracle of the sun, which is a certified Catholic miracle from 1917. Maybe you don't know about this if you're not Catholic or Portuguese. But here is the basic gist of what went down.
Starting point is 00:46:13 And when examined outside the context of Christianity, it's a fairly bizarre, yet insanely well-documented thing that went down because this is, it's only 1917, but it's like, it's like, you know, the modern world. So, you know, it got to the 1978 that long ago. Yeah. So basically a little over a hundred years ago is not long. Yeah. So basically, these three shepherd children, Lucia, Francisco and Jacinta in the Cova de Aria area of Fatima, started to report sightings of a beautiful angel woman, possibly the Virgin Mary, eventually definitely identified as some version of the Virgin Mary, who wore a white mantel edged with gold that she has always depicted. She was holding a rosary and who they described as, quote,
Starting point is 00:47:01 brighter than the sun, shedding rays of light, clearer and stronger than a crystal goblet filled with the most sparkling water and pierced by the burning rays of the sun. They started hell of a description. Beautiful, beautiful writers, these children. They started coming back with specific prophecies from this woman saying about saying the rosary over and over again every day to achieve world peace and to end the world war, which had just broken out around that time. It was 1917, just like the movie. And it told them to come back on June 13th, which is the Feast of St. Anthony. And by now, the people in the town sort of knew about this as like a weird thing that was happening that we're taking it too serious,
Starting point is 00:47:47 right? Because like it's just some fucking kids, right? Yeah. But the parish priest, Father Ferreira, said to let them go, go check it out. You know, he's like, you know, what? What does it hurt for them to go see it? I want to know what happens. They came back with stories about a vision of hell. They said that the woman told them three secrets that were, quote, good for some and bad for others. And the message that Francisco and Jacinta would go to heaven soon, they died the next year in the 1918 Spanish flu epidemic. And that Lucia would live to spread the message. Lucia was also asked to learn to read so she could be better at spreading the message. She went into a life career of like being that person. Like I think she became even like part
Starting point is 00:48:34 of the church and went and in 2017, the kids were canonized. Or at least the process began in 2017 with the most recent pope doing that stuff. But by August 13, the next time they were meant to visit the lady, you know, the story had gotten so big that now there were thousands of people in Fatima, thousands. And Artur Santos, who is the provincial administrator, he literally had to step in and throw the kids into jail before they got to their meeting because he didn't want to create like a scene, something dangerous or scary in some way. So he brought them in there and he was like, listen, you guys got to tell me what the fuck you said, what the fuck they said to you, like what are these secrets? And Lucia's mother was like, maybe if you capture them, you can get
Starting point is 00:49:27 them to can admit that they're lying, right? Right. But it came and gone, right? The 13th meeting come and gone to their jail. And because they missed it, apparently the Virgin Mary appeared to the kids like nearby six days later when they were all together, told them to come again to the original meeting place on October 13th, when she would reveal her identity and perform a miracle, quote, so that all may believe. Okay. So eventually, October 13th rolls around. There are somewhere, according to who you read, according to who you ask, there were between 30,000 and 100,000 people there now. So we're talking a stadium. I would be there. I would be there if this story of this magic woman telling kids secrets and doom visions of hell, I want to see this person. So we're talking
Starting point is 00:50:22 about stadiums worth of people, right? This is like witnesses, right? And depending on which account you read, no matter what, nobody left disappointed. Hundreds of people have gone on record with formal testimony. But I think that this quote from a Lisbon newspaper said it best. This one's for you, Mathis, to read. I'm going to just drop this right here for you. Tell me if it sounds familiar. Here we go. The silver sun enveloped in the same gauzy gray light was seen to swirl and turn in the circle of broken clouds. The light turned a beautiful blue as if it had come through the stained glass windows of a cathedral and spread itself over the people who knelt at without stretched hands. People wept and prayed with uncovered heads in the presence of a miracle they had awaited.
Starting point is 00:51:17 The second seemed like ours so vivid, were they? And of course, as if you hadn't already guessed, on October 13th yet again, specimens of white and somewhat quote flaky angel hair, which was reported to have fallen in the aftermath of the miracle was collected and sent to Lisbon for analysis where they determined that it was natural rather than manmade and possibly more vegetable in structure than animal. But again, this was 40 years before the previous. So you got to allow for bad, worse science at that time. So she said she was going to reveal who her identity. Did she be like, I'm Mother Mary, bitches? I mean, look at Our Lady of Fatima. Look this up. The secrets have been revealed. The secrets have all been revealed.
Starting point is 00:52:11 They're they're like, I got my high school Catholic education about that whole thing. So not the any other education about that whole thing. Yeah. Like even when I said I would want to see that thing, you know, my first thought was doubting Thomas. Yeah. No, I was like, it's ingrained in me. You got that CCD, that catechism, that body of Christ. All right. So what the fuck am I talking about? What is this leading to? What is episode two even about? Right? Let's talk about some of the details again. First, first of all, did you notice that the spaceships were all red and yellow in almost all of these, except the very first one where it was like blue and gray, which is another color that
Starting point is 00:52:51 their Mets mentioned here. But in all the different ones, you got these red and yellow spaceships in massive numbers, right? You got 30 here, you got 16 here. There was like a space battle in 1561, right? There's elements that are simple, right? It's not 100 percent the same, but there's elements that are similar. Similar movements in the air. You know, like everybody sees the spaceship do weird stuff. There's the cylinder that shoots like a smoke out that like the stuff falls, you know, something like that. Maybe it's some kind of biological alien process. You know, who knows? Maybe, you know, also like the triangle with lights on it. That's like a very famous. There's the one in Phoenix that we saw in modern times. There's another one
Starting point is 00:53:36 in like, like what, in Mexico recently that was really popular. It was like another triangle. A lot of people think that Nuremberg account was a space battle between different types of aliens and maybe, you know, I don't know. Like there's sort of like other stuff at play and there's certain parts that link together. I can't wait to see where this is going. I'm waiting. I am all smiles. I don't know what you're about to say, but I know it's going to be insane. My personal conclusion about this is that maybe this points and I'm not saying I believe this to be factually true, but if I'm trying to connect everything, I feel like we have the X-Files sort of grays, little green men sort of area of the alien world.
Starting point is 00:54:24 We're definitely in with like nuts and bolt sightings of many different craft. Yeah, you're looking at something like that. I don't I just I feel like it touches like what I'm going to say is I feel like it touches the alien mythos of America a little bit, but I feel like it's like its own sort of like separate European mythos about aliens that we're kind of touching on here. Right. Like the thing about the rain is very weird. The thing about, I mean, the thing about the angel hair itself is really weird. The fact that it's like biological, you know, like the thing about a shitload of different craft in the air, like in plain sight is very strange. Not a thing that normally happens out here with like the typical like farmer in the woods sees the alien,
Starting point is 00:55:04 gets abducted type thing, not any abductions happening here, you know, nothing like that. It just feels like there's this other element of this and whether or not like how close it is to Christianity so often like it's angel hair, you get the Virgin Mary creating angel hair, you get this like celestial event that's like related to God in some way, they're like surely God, there's crucifixes flying through the air. There's a lot going on, right? And it's all, it's all sort of in the same sort of aesthetic wheelhouse, right? And so I looked into this, I was like, are there people who like conflate all this stuff? Are there like, is there like a belief system that like connects this stuff together? And what I found when I looked into this
Starting point is 00:55:45 like blew my mind so much, that's what gave this episode the second half. And you will I believe me when I tell you, you have no fucking idea where I'm going. In France, in the mid 1960s, there was a pop singer called Claude Selier. Oh my God, I know where we're going. Why are you doing this? Why are you doing Alex? His last, his last, his real last name was Voyle and he had a couple of charting singles. But he had to abruptly call it quits in the pop music industry. When his sponsor, the director of a national radio program named Lucien Maurice, committed suicide in 1970. He had, he was like, he had like one song that was like kind of chart topping. So he had a little money, right?
Starting point is 00:56:32 And by 71, he settled down. He had two kids with a nurse named Marie Paul Christina. He started a publishing house and a sports car magazine called Auto Pop. He wanted to become a race car driver. He got to test out the cars like for the magazine to like write them up so he'd like get to drive all these awesome race cars. But all that shit went out the window in 1973, when according to him, while he was hiking near the crater of the French Puy de la Solace volcano in France, an extraterrestrial craft gently descended from the sky. An alien came out who spoke French and who told and asked what the alien looked like. There's there's he looked like he looked like a man. Yeah, blonde hair, white skin.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Yeah. Was he one of them? Yeah, he's like a man. I'm not going to say I have I have a goof I want to say, but I'm not going to say because it spoils what Alex is about to say. We'll get to the end. Well, we're almost there. We're almost there. It was like a man. It was like a human man come out. Yes. Yeah. That's that's a very Nordic. He told Claude that he had come to meet with him specifically and that he had a message what would now become his mission to spread to the people of Earth. Okay. Before we continue, this is also really like this obscure alien knowledge. This is very common with Nordics in particular. Sometimes the beings of light that have occasionally happened. But Nordics for some
Starting point is 00:57:58 reason, they pick people and they're always like, you are now on a mission to spread our message. Yes, exactly. And here is their explanation for that. Apparently this alien's name was Yahweh. And he came from a race of super advanced human scientists called the Elohim with technology 25,000 years beyond our own and who created all life on our planet through genetic manipulation. He said they'd been they'd sent 40 or so prophets before him. But that humans always kind of fucked up the message because their brains were too primitive, their societies were too simplistic. And that was this guy nailed that was Claude's turn to do it. Right. Right. So using mysteries and secrets from Yahweh as well as new interpretations
Starting point is 00:58:46 of earthly religious texts like the Holy Bible. His mission was to inform humanity of their true origins and to prepare us for the Elohim's return by building a residential embassy in a neutral territory, which I believe is basically the plot of the movie Jupiter Ascending so far. I'm pretty sure like we're just right in the Jupiter Ascending area. I'll watch that movie in prep. But anyway, by 1974, Claude Vorlon had changed his name to just Raelle, Raelle, Raelle. And after a couple appearances on French TV and radio, he started an organization based on his teachings called Madaq, which was an acronym that translates in English to the movement for the welcoming of the Elohim, creators of humanity, which eventually grew into the cult at the center
Starting point is 00:59:38 of next week's episode, the International Rayallian movement. OK, now we're going to talk a lot more about the specifics of this cult next episode. But I wanted to end today with a little quote from a book called Aliens Adored, Raelle's UFO religion by Susan J Palmer. And this one's for Jesse. Let me know if this begins to make me read this sound for me. Can't make me read this is a fun topic for next week. I'm so upset. I'm so upset. You have no people. I'm going to, you know, do not research Rayallians. Don't even like look into it because you don't want Alex to spoil like I guess I can guess where this is going. I'm just going to like guess next episode. If you're listening, you're going to be like, wow,
Starting point is 01:00:22 well, this seems like actually kind of like sweet. Oh, that's so interesting. You know what? Wow, good for them. Oh, they're so progressive. Oh, oh, oh, oh, you're a cult. Oh, every cult. All right. Where is this nonsense? So I'm trying to send it to you. I had to like screen cap this off of like a book. So you got to bear with me here. I mean, I'm just going to email them to you. Just give me one second here. Just attaching them. Never trust a man who claims to have gone off by himself to speak with Yahweh, God version or alien version and claim that he is now their prophet and messenger. There is, there is like, there are a lot of great articles out there, especially now that the whole Q thing is happening, right? Yep. There's a lot of great articles about
Starting point is 01:01:18 how anytime there's real information to disseminate to people, if it's truth, the disseminator says everything immediately, right? Like everything they're saying, they'll be like, I have to say this or who knows what can happen to me. And they immediately say it like actual whistleblowers, actual like truth people, like the people who actually are famous for whistleblowing dump everything there is to dump, right? People who are like, there's more to the story and I will return to you in three weeks with more information. But right now, truth seekers, it's up to you to find out what the real path is or like the alien came to me. And although there are many things I can tell you, I cannot tell you until I have more. Like, what's the name of that Ricky?
Starting point is 01:02:04 That's me. It's always BS. It's always BS. What's the Ricky Gervais movie? What the hell is it called? I think it's called the invention of lying. Yeah. The one where he like makes up religion. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that is, that is a good movie. I tried to email this to you. If you can't see it, I just got it. Yeah. I'll read it if you can't see it, but it's like the part that's like, which part of this is my reading? It's a, it's a good section. The part that's like a photograph from a book. Yes. Yes. Yes. But which paragraph? Just crush it. We'll get, we'll be here sooner than you think. A whole thing, baby. Tell me if it sounds familiar. So start with the angel hair phenomenon. Is a rare
Starting point is 01:02:41 phenomenon? Yes. Start from Wild Raleons. Do you want to just take it and run? I got it. I got it right here. I don't see Wild, Wild Raleons at all. Oh, it's okay. Don't worry about it. I'll just, I'll just read it. Apple is just being dumb right now. Wild Raleons are quick to point to UFO sightings in the media as corroborating Rale's story. They dismiss the claims of career contactees as erroneous or crazy. When UFOs appear, the Elohim are making their presence known to manifest their support for Rale's mission. Although Raleons do communicate telepathically with the Elohim in their group rituals to feed their love, only Rael is prevented to receive messages or to review, or to view the alien visitors. But many Raleons are CEII. That is, they don't speak to aliens,
Starting point is 01:03:30 but they have witnessed and still witness UFO phenomenon of the second kind. Raleons, for example, periodically experience an unusual kind of close encounter of the second kind, CEII, right? The sighting of luminous flakes, also known as angel hair. Angel hair is a rare phenomenon associated with UFO sightings, and the most famous incident occurred in France in 1952. That's the one we talked about with the 30 red and yellow flying saucers. People of town all around were watching a cigar-shaped UFO when suddenly a plume of white smoke escaped from one end. The plumes left an abundant trail behind them, which slowly fell to the ground as if dispersed, reported a school principal. When witnesses tried to gather the material, it turned to
Starting point is 01:04:11 gelatinous and disappeared, so it was never tested. Jerome Clark notes that the reports of angel hair have been rare over the past three decades, and mentions only three examples besides the famous French case, yet angel hair is observed periodically at the Raelian summer seminars and interpreted as proof that the Elohim are watching over the over the Raelians. So sorry, I'm just trying to like give, so this is 1998. So he's saying for the past three decades, since the 70s, there have only been three other hair sightings that are not except for the Raelians. Okay. They get gizzed on. Yeah. The Raelians are seen. That is more accurate than you know. Rael himself describes the first sighting in his book, Let's Welcome Our Fathers From Space. Here
Starting point is 01:05:08 we go. On October 7th, 1976, about 50 Raelians were at Lenegrerie near Rock Plot in the Dordone for the first anniversary commemorating the time when Rael had been taken to the planet of the Eternals. Suddenly, someone cried, what is that falling from the sky? Great flakes were falling from a near cloudless sky. They seemed to be made of a cottony substance which went touched, melted in a few seconds. Then someone shouted, look, there is something very shiny in the sky. Two luminous objects, both very bright, were just above us. The fall of the flakes lasted about 10 minutes. Then the objects suddenly disappeared. The meaning of this event was that the Elohim were offering a sign so that Rael would not be the only witness to the Elohim's activities.
Starting point is 01:05:54 I can't wait. We can't go any further until we go into them now. You really don't know where this is headed. It's not about the same thing. I will say that my, I mean, obviously I don't believe any of this, but more importantly, my big takeaway is at the beginning we were talking about silk and spider silk and at the end we're talking about flakes. Unless you're using different terminology, it does seem like it's two different things. What I was imagining based on the descriptions that I read is if you can imagine that the fibers were a little bit more substantial than you would think. If you imagine if you were dry or you pulled out a hair from your beard rather than your
Starting point is 01:06:48 rather than your head, like how it's a little heavier, and then if you imagine them getting sort of matted together, it's like flaky while still being fibrous. I want to be clear that it never isn't fibrous. It's just that the way that it falls and acts is very much more flaky than say like a spider web, right? The biggest thing that I have is that like all these things, it's never anything recent, right? It's never something that we can study. It's always like, well, it happened way back when, which to me doesn't mean it didn't happen. It just means that I don't know that I trust like it was aliens that did it, right? I mean, even if those was going on in the fifties, even if nobody ever asks you, right? Like, was this aliens, right? Even if you,
Starting point is 01:07:33 even if that's not the question here, right? Like, what the fuck? Yeah, it's a great question. I mean, I looked at the molecule. Like, I know something happened on that slide. Like, what creature was that? It was pushing the slide apart, bros. Pushing it apart. I'm excited. I'm excited to see what the Raleons are about. But the third part one, I'm left still curious. Yeah. Yeah. If there were actually aliens. Before we went to the Raleons. The Raleons, I'm curious. And there's just, in a way, we're all aliens if you listen to the Raleons. All right. You know what? You are correct. There's there's a lot of,
Starting point is 01:08:14 like every, every instance seemed to have some things that were the same, but some things that were different. And then including things like in the past, like the Fatima thing, I think is a great example of everyone saw something. I have no idea what they saw, but everyone saw a thing. How could they caught up in religious fervor? Like, I have no clue. How could that happen? How could 100,000 people? How could 40,000 people? Let's give it like a realistic number. 40, 50,000 if we're going on a range between 30 and 100, right? They were all there expecting to see something and then something happened. Like my question is just like as a skeptic, my question is how long were they there before something? Like, were they there so long that just something
Starting point is 01:08:58 happened because it happened and everyone was like, Oh, that's it. I mean, they saw the sun move, my dude. They watched the sun move. That's all. But I'm like, what does that mean? I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying, but I'm just saying like, these are not just like believers. This is like, people were like, Oh, there's like a million people going to fucking Fatima. Let's send a news reporter. And he was like, Oh, like, I, you know, like it blew his mind. You know what I mean? Like that's why I, that's why I picked a news reporter instead of somebody who was like from a Catholic newspaper, right? Like every, every, at every step of the way you expect there not to be any info on this. And I'm, I'm being pointed to documents. The only hole in this for
Starting point is 01:09:43 me, and I'm obviously saying this with a grain of salt because like who the fuck knows, but like the only thing that I'm not a hundo on is the stuff the first time in Portugal with the two professors in the Navy and the Air Force, just because I'm just taking the word for the people from the people who translated those documents that what they're saying is what they're translating. But I have no reason to believe that they wouldn't. And I just, and I'm, I'm very willing to like subject all the, I have all the links that I used. So I'm going to, I'm going to post. Well, like you said, no matter how we walk away from this, we still walk away with something weird happened. No doubt. And I often think about those things from antiquity, like what the fuck
Starting point is 01:10:22 happened then? It sounds so similar to what happened with Fatima. And obviously I, that's not antiquity, but it still was over a hundred years ago. You know what I mean? So like, I don't know, like there's, there's a lot of questions here. I hope this at least captured your imagination, folks. Oh, it definitely did. And I, I, I hope you guys don't read too much into Raelians before before. I know a little bit about them, but I'm not going to do it. I will just say, I'll read it for yourself. It's a trip. I also think that statistically, there's probably at least one or two of you who listen to this show who are part of this organization. There are over a hundred thousand members. So damn, you know, if you're a UFO
Starting point is 01:11:02 fanatic and you are part of this, you know, you have to just look at it from our point of view and, and, you know, welcome this sort of scrutiny. So, you know, next week, get ready to learn some more about this crazy, crazy, crazy, serious. I'm not even going to talk about their beliefs as if they're crazy. I mean, you can decide what you want about that, but just what they have done in this world as, as, as an organization is fucking bizarre. So, so, so get ready. Sick. I'm excited. We'll be back next week with part two of this weird little alien jizz journey that leads into a potential call. Oh, I think I just, I think I just realized the name of this episode. The alien jizz journey, baby. We're on it right now. That's going to get everyone to click.
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