Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 98 - Minisode Compilation 12

Episode Date: April 27, 2021

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Yeah, we're eating a mango icicle, icy pop. Yep. All right. I'm free, baby. You know, you could finish the podcast and you were just like, No, no, no, absolutely not. I want to start right now. I want to finish this popsicle on air. If that was if that was if that episode was the first 10 minutes of the movie up, this is that Pixar cartoon about the old man playing chess, like this is the light word that you know, that's the dark and this is the light. I like it. I appreciate it too. You're going to talk about the thing I was excited to talk about, Alex. So I kind of want to start just with you. Yeah. Okay. So this this is a article that was in the venerable publication known as the New York Post yesterday. And it is

a article called a Harvard professor says an alien visited in 2017 and more are coming. Right. You ready for this, Jesse? Are you finally ready to be convinced? No, but I'm in. So Avi. Avi Loeb is the chair of Harvard's Department of Astronomy, and he has a new book coming out. So that's a problem. That's, you know, that's one. That's a flag, unfortunately. But it's hot and Mifflin. It's like a real book. Like, you know, it's not like some Amazon.com self-printed $5 manual. You know, it's a properly published book. It's coming out this month. And he was talking about the Oumuamua, which is this thing. I don't know if we did. We talked about on the show last week. Yeah.

I was talking about the Minnesota last week on the top six scientific cool things. Yeah. So the Oumuamua that you that you were talking about last week came from the direction of Vega, the star system that is like fairly close by, but it's like 25 light years away. And it appeared in our solar systems orbital plane on the 6th of September, 2017. And three days later is when it got as its closest point to the sun. And by the end of the month, it was going like 60 K MPH past Venus. And by early October, it was past Earth. And then speeding up basically, it was getting faster and headed off towards Pegasus, the constellation. And the reason it's called the Oumuamua is because it was first spotted

at a observatory in Hawaii, which we talked about last week. That's when the Pan Stars telescope is that like high def like crazy telescope means scout, like as if it was some sort of extraterrestrial scouts, right? Oumuamua. And it was only a hundred yards long, which is like fairly large in earthling scale, but in, you know, it's like a football field. But in space, that's not very big. And it's the first ever interstellar object ever detected inside the solar system. And because of how fast it was going, it was not being affected. It wasn't trapped in the sun's gravity. It wasn't just like space trash that got stuck in orbit. It was propelling itself or was in some way being propelled.

And they followed it for 11 straight days, which is crazy. But so now we're going to talk about this guy with the book. And he says that the scientific community thinks it's an ordinary comet. But then he said that that assumption runs the risk of allowing, quote, the familiar to define what we might discover. What would happen if a caveman saw a cell phone? He seen rocks all his life and he would have thought it was just a shiny rock. And he thinks that rather than it being just like some type of comet or natural thing, that instead it's some kind of like intelligently designed space trash, like a piece of a ship that it was. Yeah, I think I know the article you're talking about. I think in the article, they also

say like that correctly. Like if we're looking for alien civilizations, we shouldn't necessarily be looking for scout ships, but maybe pieces of their own garbage that makes their way into our solar system. Maybe that's what this was made by another civilization, right? But the dimensions were weird for a comet because it looks like a cigar kind of. We looked at the 3D rendering of it last week. You can check that out online. It's easy to find. They also looked at the way it reflected sunlight and that its brightness varied. So it was rotating. They could like track its brightness and sort of estimate that it was sort of rotating every like eight hours, which is kind of weird. And it's really like just uncommon in a lot of ways. There's a lot

of stuff about it that was really weird, 10 times more reflective than most other items in space, right? He says to think of it as like shiny metal vibes, which is why he's like it's something. But he says the really crazy thing about it is the movement and that the fact that it is pushing away from the sun is the thing that really like convinces him that something is at play here. So then they go to speculate like what it was maybe going to be or like what it could possibly like. He says that he calculated that the Oumuamua was like a one in quadrillion chance that something with those properties was just a random occurrence, which is like a high amount. And that's pretty rare. Yeah. And he says that one explanation goes back all the way to Kepler.

And you know, the idea of like the solar breeze and the and the like tails of comets and how he was thinking about like maybe the tail of a comet could be like some type of like propulsion idea. And now probes have light sails on them sometimes that scientists make that are like, you know, kind of look like if you remember what Count Dooku ship looked like in episode two. Yeah. It has like space sails. And then they're saying like maybe in the future, they'll be able to like unfold those sails and rather than just surfing from the sun's stuff that they'll like be able to fire like lasers directly at the sail to like propel it. If that makes sense. So lobe is actually involved in that. He's actually, you know, he's a Harvard

professor. He's actually involved in a light sail project to send a tiny unmanned craft to a nearby star. And he says that if we thought of this, why have an alien's thought of this, right? Yeah. And he says that in his hypothesis, he and a colleague quote crunched the numbers and that Oumuamua was not actually cigar shaped as a lot of people think, but rather rather a disc less than a millimeter thick with sail like proportions. Is that an account for its unusual acceleration? Or is that just one person saying? I mean, it's a Harvard professor who's actively researching the technology to send a light sail through space. Okay. I mean, that's, I mean, if there's not, I mean, like we're always talking about, you know, checking with experts, right?

And I mean, this guy to me at least qualifies as some type of expert, right? And he thinks that maybe it's like a piece of a sail that flew through our solar system. And then when it got between the sun and the sun's like energy that it like kind of like, you know, was pushed because it was a thin piece and was like already made for that purpose. And so just sort of behaved in that way. That's interesting. Yeah. However, in July, 2019, there is the Oumuamua team of International Space Science. They're called the Oumuamua team of the International Space Science Institute. They published an article saying we find no compelling evidence to favor an alien explanation. But also, Loeb is not necessarily like just saying fuck you to those people. He's saying

some people do not want to discuss the possibility there are other civilizations out there. They believe we are special and unique. I think it's a prejudice that should be abandoned. Then he says that the skeptic explanation requires you to kind of bend over backwards to assign natural origins to the object. Yeah. So like, for example, the some like one of the one of the explanations that you like, and I think this is the one that you were talking about last week where they were saying that there was hydrogen frozen on it that was turning to gas and was like sort of like filtering out of it, like a like a, you know, like a little canister of air or something like a little jet. Yeah. He was the one that proved he was the one who wrote the paper.

Loeb was that was cited that disproved that theory for the, you know, for the scientific community. That's cool. Yeah. I mean, I wanted to be aliens real bad. Not going to lie. So his his quotes is I just want to his last quote is he says his book should motivate people to collect more data on the next object that looks weird. And if we find another and we take a photo and it looks like a light sale, I don't think anyone will argue that. I mean, he's got a point. Yeah. I'm right there. Kind of branching into that actually, like the more in the UFO thing, mine, mine kind of ties into that in that the government, the US government officially is on a 180 day countdown for the Pentagon and spy agencies to reveal what they know about UFOs.

It comes after President Trump signed a $2.3 trillion COVID-19 relief bill and government funding bill on Sunday. Thanks to an act included in the bill, federal agencies must publish a report in the next six months. The provision wasn't included in the text of the 5,593 page legislation, but as a committee comment attached to the annual Intelligence Authorization Act. So it's happening? This is the bill that, yeah, this is the one talking about how whatever they're about to produce is going to be like, boo boo, subsection six form a state so that there's been nothing, there's been nothing of important information in there. You don't know that, Jesse. You don't know

that. I do. I do. You don't know that. You don't know that. But that's it. That's my article. They're on a timer. Did you have to release it? Did you know that in 2020 in New York City, UFO sightings are up 283% from 2018? You said for 2020? In two years, since 2018, it is up 283%. It's almost time, Jesse. The aliens are coming, brother. Here's the thing. If they showed up, awesome. I'm down. Either we're all dead, or we're all enlightened either way. We had a good run. All I'm saying is, it's not happening.

If we were ever going to get someone to tell us about aliens, Trump's loony ass 100% would have. You're kidding me. Biden ain't going to say shit. Okay, I'll try. He's not going to say nothing. There's no way they told Trump that there's aliens if they have any knowledge. That's what I'm saying. But then we're not getting anything with Biden either. I'm just letting you know.

Did you see the video in Nanakuli in Honolulu? What? That was the, so you know how the telescope is in Hawaii, so they named it the omuomua? Didn't you hear about the UFO sighting in Hawaii like the other day? Yes, it got posted on a subreddit, actually. Yeah. Like 11 different people saw it. I don't still don't think it, you know.

They're coming. It's happening, Jesse. They're on the way. Look, I for one welcome our new alien overlords, and I'm fine with whatever happens. You know me, I'm fine with robot overlords, alien overlords. I'm just, I'm okay being a pet. I like the structure, although I don't think it's going to happen. It just depends on the species that land. But you know what can happen for you?

What, Jesse? Ladies and gentlemen, right now. Still on sale. Lizzie Borden's house is still on sale on Zillow. You can go there right now, $189,000. That's cheap. Much. Where is that? It is in French Street, Fall River, Massachusetts.

Yeah, it's in my state, baby. Let's get a picture on it again. Let's make it a new picture. If you're out there, you're like, why would I want to live in a house where axe murders happened? Ladies and gentlemen, do I have information for you? It is not where the murders happened, but instead where she lived until she died. So you just have to live in a house where somebody who murdered people with an axe.

Right. I don't know why ghosts would be in that house. Here's the thing, it's a very lovely house. It is seven bedrooms, four baths, 4,000 square feet. If that place is haunted though, it's going to be haunted by Lizzie Borden. How many bedrooms? The murderer herself. Seven bedrooms, $189,000 nestled in the historic Highlands District.

Fall River is not the greatest city, but it's not bad. All right. Shade towards Fall River, you know, shout outs to them. It's all good. I worked in Fall River for a long time. That's fair enough, you know. I mean, look, I'm just saying, if we all get high enough on the Patreon, the Chilumanati will purchase Lizzie Borden's house and we'll make our COVID bubble.

And we'll all live there together as a family. I would love that. I found out that it's called Maplecroft is the name of this estate. And more importantly, Maplecroft is being offered fully furnished with exceptional period pieces that speak of a very special past time. On the Zillow for under $200,000. Good Lord. Come on, Patreon.

Remember, just up it up. It's up your money. What have I been doing with my... This is what I've been waiting for. I thought this is it. We could buy this house and turn into like a Chilumanati hotspot. Yeah, I just want to... It'll be like Zach Bagan's weird museum of the insane or whatever.

It's $890,000. Oh my God. That's a way different amount. I don't want it. That's way different amount. I don't do that much. Yeah, I'm done. We're not...

That's like a house in LA. I'm never going to be able to afford that. Yeah. Oh, no. It's a suburban house in an LA neighborhood. I was like, man, we could do like every Halloween a live show at Lizzie Borden's house. Yeah. Can I tell you what's crazy that this just goes to show you what the housing market's like?

This house sold in October of 2014. It looks like November 2014. $400,000. Just putting it out there. Yeah, that sounds about right. Well, Jesse, you raised our hopes for a brief moment. I'm sorry. I thought I swore I said correctly.

We just have to find another demented mansion to live in together. It'll be okay. The house is surrounded? Not, I mean, $300,000, $175,000, $85,000. We could get in the area. We could like solution the area and then go visit it. We could go sit on the lawn and sing kumbaya. We could just take it over.

We could just declare squatters rights. Oh, that's cool. Do they have good laws supporting that in mass? Probably not. I don't know. Honestly, I don't know. Well, it isn't. You know, it's, you know, what does the local legislator say?

We could be like the new whitey bulger. Right. And then we can just do LSD for 25 days. Oh my God. We could create the pad. The pad. Now I'm out. All right.

Just kind of have a conversation pit and fondue built into the table. We have to tear. We have to tear the place down. And that's definitely how you get the ghost of an axe murderer to come for you. You can't get chopped by a ghost axe goes right through. You know, big deal. If there's ever a ghost axe that's going to get you, it'd be that one. That is like, yeah.

And then you're done. I have no fear of you, Lizzie. Come at me. Still on sale. A hundred and thirty some days after it first went up. It's almost like people are not interested. Yeah. Kind of weird.

Nobody's got eight hundred thousand dollars lying around to just buy a home. I was going to say it's no way because it's eight hundred thousand fucking dollars. Someone in LA definitely does. That's for sure. Yeah, fair. Seven rooms is tempting. Definitely. Well, I appreciate it.

Everybody for listening. I appreciate your support on Patreon. I appreciate you listening to this mini. So we love you. We'll see you next week with something. Maybe aliens will land between now and next week. I can't make any promises. It will not happen.

I can make a promise. It won't happen. I'm going to try and eat an alien. How many days I call you. It will not happen. How many days do we have? Seven days, brother. Till the till the 180 day they have a hundred six months.

So half a year before I'm eating alien pate off a cracker. Yeah, dude. All right. And I'm eating alien. Two shake. I don't want to be associated with you. When the two of you get taken to the camps, I'm going to be over here with my alien masters laughing.

They'll be like, yes, Pet Jesse. And I'll be like, I'll be the salacious chrome. But you got to get okay, man. I'm fine with that. You got to come like over the next 10 years, you got to come break us out. No, I'm good. You got to let him.

You got to let him shrink you down to salacious. Salacious chrome size. Shift click your corner and apple apple. That's how it works when you're advanced technology. They just reshape me. Time and space, man. It's nothing, dude. Yeah.

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I mean, it wasn't creepy. You're just like, I'm going to talk like this. Yeah, it wasn't like a lull us into it. You bring the energy down before you start. Like a siren on a rock in the middle of the ocean. They're most pleasant tune. That's what I'm doing. Right.

There was a fucking sailor sitting on a ship and he heard like off the ship. Like, hello, my little sailor whaler. Well, I would not. I would be like, I would be go. I'd say I'd change my sail. I know. Right that way.

Got to go. Got to go. Welcome to chill. Many hello, patrons. Thank you so much. We love you. Appreciate your support. I've got a fun story that I think I'm just going to crack open

with because we just finished up a UFO kind of connected episode brought us to brought to you by Alex. Hey, so we're going to go into a UFO encounter. Listener story brought to us by listener. The scenario called the UFO encounter. The neighborhood we lived in was full of friendly people and had a real welcoming community to it. One of the neighbors near us in the cul-de-sac

would host block parties every summer. And I and all the other kids in the neighborhood loved it. It was one of the few nights that our parents would be outside late and let us stay out late with them. There was food, fireworks and games. And I remember those summer block parties fondly. A particularly a particular event during the block party of the summer I was nine is something that keeps that

night firmly implanted in my in my thoughts and memories. The party was winding down as the hour was nearing probably 10 o'clock or so, though a few adults were still chatting around a metal barrel bonfire. Their kids were growing tired and were mostly sitting around waiting for their parents to say it was time to go home. A friend and I weren't really tired yet. And with the only and with the only other kids

that were still there being much younger than us, we were getting bored. My friend and I decided to go to the neighborhood park and playground that was several blocks away and down a steep hill. We asked our parents about it and they said it was fine and off we went. What we didn't tell our parents was that instead of going

to the park, we plan to go to explore the forested wetlands preserved that was across from the park. Yee yee! You had to go through the playground and across a rarely used dirt road to even get to it. Find that vagina sculpture in the woods. Yeah, that's exactly the kind of place you're going to find that shit.

It was a place kids like to sneak into because we weren't supposed to go there. Animal skeletons of things like raccoons and deers were frequently found there. It was muddy, swampy and dangerous. That's exactly why my friend and I wanted to go explore it at night. The park had a large sign that said it closed at dusk.

I always assumed the reason was because the only light near it was a street lamp on the sidewalk at the entrance. After walking a ways down the asphalt path that led down to a steep slope to the playground, there were no lights, so it got pretty dark. That made it a little creepy, but also made it a good place to star gaze now that I think about it.

It's a shame that never occurred to me when I was nine. As we walked down the slope and into the grassy area next to the playground, I remember that my friend and I were talking about how eerie it was being there at night and how just hearing that word gave us chills. We passed the playground, still discussing things in that vein, and we were a few yards from the dirt road when something low in the sky ahead of us caught our attention.

I cut off mid-sentence, and we both stopped dead in our tracks. The thing in the sky descended smoothly and rapidly. Lights blinking along the bottom of the craft made it appear to be cylindrical in shape. It honestly looked like the stereotypical UFO seen in nearly every alien movie and UFO report ever. That'd be so surreal to, like, I'd be terrified.

Terrible fucking dead-ass flying saucer. As a child, as a nine-year-old, I'd run screaming. Yeah. The craft hit the tree line of the wetlands ahead of us. The tops of the trees that were in the way of its descent bent as it pushed them, and I could hear the light rustle of leaves from what I guessed was the breeze created by the UFO. But the craft itself was not emitting any noise

that I could hear from where we stood. My friend and I looked at each other wide-eyed, and we turned and ran before the craft even made it to the past the tops of the trees. We were yelling back and forth to each other things like, did you see that? Yeah, yeah. And oh my God.

I remember running to my parents out of breath and trying to explain what we saw. The words might have been blurred and incoherent, but whatever the reason may be, my parents brushed me off with uh-huh, and pretty much ignored my scared yet excited screeching. My friend and I talked about it for a little more around the bonfire, but after we went home and sucked it off,

I all but forgot about it in the coming weeks and shrugged it off when I thought about it thereafter. My friend never spoke of it again. I ended up moving to California three years later and lost contact with most of my childhood friends, so I didn't think about the incident either until a few years later when I confided in close friends who were also sharing their paranormal experiences.

Before that, I was afraid people would make fun of me or call me a liar, so I never bothered to bring it up. I am a terrible liar, though. I can't keep a story straight unless it really happened. It's the main reason I have trouble writing fiction stories, so I can assure you I'm not making the incident up. I am weirdly calm when talking about it now, like it was a thing that was normal to see.

In fact, weirdly calm is how I reacted to the other experiences I've had with unexplainable things later in life. I think those particular stories are best left for another time, though. The end. You also met Bigfoot and also D.B. Cooper? Yeah, dude. And they're rich if they met D.B. Cooper. No, Marvel already cracked the case, dude.

D.B. Cooper was Loki. You think D.B. Cooper was Loki? That's in the trailer. Oh, come on. They show it. I'm saying, man, it's it. They cracked the case. The trickster God was D.B. Cooper,

and that's why we never found him. Did you guys watch it? Are you messing with me right now? I don't know. Is that part of the show? What are you talking about? Oh, yes, that is part of the show. Is it?

Oh, my God. The whole thing of Loki is like he's time hopping, like fixing things and like the time. And like one of the episodes is he's D.B. Cooper. As he jumps out of the plane and money's flying out, the the bifrost comes in and like, oh, boy. And Sam's like, how am I going to do this? Scott Bacchulis there every time he sees himself in the mirror.

That's my story, gentlemen. I think it's a good tangent. I think it's a good connector to your weird spiderweb to Aliens story of last episode. I'll take it. Have you seen? Have you seen the D.B. Cooper documentary? Did we talk about that already?

No, no, I have not seen it. So there's one. There's a new one on. I think it's on HBO. It's not bad. Did we cover D.B. Cooper, though? Did you cover D.B. Cooper? I mean, like, did I do an episode on D.B. Cooper?

No, no, I did not. No, we've definitely, we've brought him up in the past a few times, I think. Everybody knows D.B. Cooper. Yeah. He's like, he's like fancy level. Everybody knows Oswald and everybody knows Cooper. Yep.

Yeah. All right. Which one? Who do you guys got? Who's got what? Who wants to take it? I mean, I want to talk about Fatma. So you let me know what you want to do.

All right. Well, Alex has got. I've got I've got an article from Simple Flying online magazine that just was published this week, but it's just a recap of Amelia Earhart, basically. Gotcha. It's going to give a rundown on what happened with Amelia Earhart and what people think.

You mentioned it just before you go to anywhere. Did you all see another jetpack boy was spotted again? I did. I did see that. I almost thought about bringing it up again, but it's just the same picture was taken. It's just the same story again. It's just the same thing.

Same thing. Same guy, probably Elon Musk, but you mentioned the flying magazine. I was like, oh, yeah, jetpack, man. Yeah, exactly. It's it's fucking weird. Should I get into this? Get into it, buddy.

OK. So she went missing. Amelia Earhart went missing over the Pacific Ocean in 1937 while attempting to circumnavigate the globe. Again, this is by Mark Finlay on Simple Flying. She was with Fred Noonan, who was her navigator. They took off in a Lockheed Electra from Leigh Airfield in Papua, New Guinea, bound for Howland Island,

an uninhabited coral island located close to the equator, halfway between Australia and Hawaii. OK. We know they never made it there. And everybody's been sort of searching for her. She's sort of been like a legendary figure in like American mystery culture. If you don't know that, you don't know who Amelia Earhart is.

But I can tell you what happened to her. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'll tell you what. Let's I'm going to lay out my theories, and you tell me if it's one of your theories. OK, I'm ready. First of all, the original the original search was carried out by the Coast Guard and the Navy,

as well as George Putnam, her husband. They hired a bunch of boats, sent them out, found absolutely nothing. And that's just where it stayed. Like there's not been any definitive evidence about what happened to her. But here are the theories. Some people think her plane crashed

in the ocean near the island. This is the like official explanation based one, ran out of gas and crashed, basically. It's important to know that the Coast Guard sent out a cutter called Itasca to the island that was going to be like the radio link, because number one, there was no radar. So it needed a smokestack to find the fucking island.

Damn. There was no radar in 1937. That's true. And then she was supposed to be the ship was supposed to be the radio link. So she was supposed to have clean radio signal, but she actually had really bad radio signal the whole time, which was very like interesting.

And there's also it's not in this article, but there is a story of somebody in an apartment in New York City picking up a broadcast from Amelia Earhart the day that she went missing. Oh, that's wild. That's like some bizarre story. I don't know if it's true. But yeah.

So like 20 years ago or so, there was a company in Maryland called Nauticos that went to go find the plane. They like set out an area, went to go find the plane. Like National Geographic was all involved. They searched 630 square miles. They found literally nothing. And they also sent other missions down later

that also found nothing. So that's crazy. They were confident too that they were going to find it. And they literally found nothing. Another theory is that they went to Nekumaroro Island, which is another island that's like similar. It's a coral island that's like 350 nautical miles southwest. There is a short radio transmission from Earhart

to the Etasca that said they were flying along line 157337, which is like the course that they would have been on. If they followed that course, they would have missed their island and landed right on this one. At the time of her appearance, the tide would have been low enough to give her a surface to land on, which could be possible. They even found signs of people being on this island.

A British officer said he found an overnight shelter and maybe part of the landing gear. And then there was the Phoenix Island Settlement Scheme in 38 one year later. People came across parts of possibly a plane in 1940. They found bones and shoes and a box with a sextant in it on the island. And they sent the bones to Fiji, where they were found to be a European males bones,

campfires, fish, clams, and turtles that were eaten possibly. And based on the fact that the heads weren't eaten, they thought that it was not Pacific Islanders because they would eat that shit up and that it was probably somebody with a more western sensibility about what is edible on an animal. Another theory that was going around is one that was going around not that long ago.

I think you might remember there was a picture that was circulating around this one, which is that they were captured by the Japanese. And the picture was disproven. They actually ruled out the picture as evidence of her being captured as a POW. But they thought the theory goes that the Japanese captured them and thought they were spies and killed them, basically.

And finally, some people think that they maybe just came back to the United States and became Irene Craig Mile and then Irene Bolam after getting married to Guy Bolam because maybe she was just tired of being Amelia Earhart, the most famous person in the fucking country. That's a weird one. Yeah. Yeah. Another guy thinks she's in his book.

Amelia Earhart survived US Air Force Colonel Rollin C. Reinick speculates that she left her plane in the Marshall Islands and then returned to the U.S. under assumed name and the U.S. Like if you can imagine that the whole thing was a ploy by the U.S. to be able to search the ocean without being a lot of questions being asked. If you just imagine that that was her mission

was to do that and then just come back here. But she was just so famous that like they were like, well, you got to go to witness protection now, basically. Yeah, it's time to go underground. Except that probably the plane would have ran a gas before it got to the Marshall Islands. So who knows? Okay. That's just what a guy who owns one of these

Lockheed Electras said. He just is like, there's no way. So nobody so nobody knows what happened to her. There's a lot of tell us about the aliens that kidnapped you. No problem. And we covered that. We covered this in episode three. It's been a few years. She got escorted by aliens into the hollow earth.

She lived out the rest of her day amongst better technology and better people. It's like Roanoke. Right. Exactly. Totally. That's probably what happened to them too. They probably got sucked down to Atlantis. Right. Yeah. Can I just say, how have we never done the Bermuda Triangle?

Didn't we? That's a good question. Didn't we? We've never fully covered it. We're not going to have to do Bermuda Triangle episode. Come on now. Dude, take it my man. I would love to.

I would love to. Oh my God. All right. I would love to like sit together. How have we never done that? I thought we did, didn't we? No. Am I crazy?

No, we did not cover it. We've never done Bermuda Triangle. That seems like a basic thing we should have done. Crazy. Crazy. Maybe it wasn't the real Bermuda Triangle that we were talking about. We did almost talk about the Bridgewater Triangle

here in like Massachusetts a little bit. Oh, yeah. But that was at the. That was at the live show. That was at the live show. That was when I fell on the bathroom and dirtied my knees. Yep. All right.

Jesse, tell us about Fatima. Yo, so we were talking about it in this episode, episode 84. For those of you who are listening in the SNA future. First half of the weird compilation as the kids. Compilation. Compilation. I always think Fatima is fascinating because there is so much underneath the story that Alex was saying

about the three girls and they saw the the Virgin Mary and there's I think they saw six times and then people like thousands and thousands and thousands of people witness a miracle, that kind of thing. And then there's just like more to it. So I'm fascinated about the aftermath both socially and politically because as I'm sure if you know anything about Fatima, if you don't, let me just really quickly summarize this.

What ends up happening is they have these secrets. There are three Fatima secrets that they are like we're in. Take it to the grave. And what ends up happening is later in life, the remaining surviving sister Lucia, I think. She ends up going into the church and she becomes like part of the church in Lisbon and the priest there. I think it's a priest.

I mean, you know what? I'm just going to the yeah. Jose Alva's the bishop, the bishop of Lyria says, hey, write this stuff down like I command you to write down the secrets basically write down the secrets. Yeah, that's when that that's when they put her in jail basically. They were like write down the secrets. We command that you do this.

And so she writes a book in 1941 that contains two of the secrets and she says there's a third one and I'm not going to release it. I'm going to I'm going to like it's a secret that will be revealed later. And so what ends up happening is we get two of the secrets and the third secret they say will not will be written down by Lucia, put in an envelope, sent to the Vatican and will stay

there and be released in 1960, right? Like in 1960, we'll release it. So what we end up having is the two secrets we get from her. The first secret is basically a vision of hell. It's like hell is this awful place and she talks about the flames and like the all the people dying and suffering there and now it's horrible and it made them tremble with fear and there's demons and all sorts of awful things.

The second secret is essentially about World War Two. Yeah, basically it's basically saying, you know, World War Two is going to happen and it also talks about Russia a lot. There's a lot of talk about Russia and how the church needs to go into Russia and consecrate Russia and how, you know, essentially like it's pretty anti-communism is what it is. And so of course at this time, the big thing is for a lot of religious people, it's like, oh my god, we have two of the

secrets. This is incredible. Like it all rings true to them about all these different things, but it also is 1941. So World War Two has already begun and so you're saying it's like convenient that the secrets are like, yeah. And the first secret isn't really, it's just like, watch out for hell because hell sucks, right?

But the second secret is very much like, oh, it's revealing. It talks about how, you know, there's wars going to break out during a specifically named pope and it just happens to be the pope that's around during the breakout of World War Two. There's talk about Russia and communism like, it may doesn't say communism, I don't think, but it's like, that's what it's talking about. And the idea that a lot of people are like, well, how could

that be the thing that was given to you if communism, like there wasn't a revolution in Russia until later in 1917. Right. Like you had these visions in July and communism, like the Russian Revolution was November. So like, was the Virgin Mary just like, get ready, it's going to be great. There's a lot of that.

People were like, I don't know. I don't know if I believe this, but one of the things I think is the most fascinating is there was a write-up about this that a guy did like a background study about, you know, the ecclesiastical fervor of the late 1800s, early 1900s. And the basic idea is that during that time period, there were a lot of like sightings of spiritual things and major movements and caught like, we all saw this and we're all

a part of it and major religious movements happened during that time period and they deduce like, hey, it is a reaction to this post-industrial disenfranchisement that lower middle-class people are feeling when like, you know, their whole lives are changing rapidly, right? They're going from everyone worked in a farm to now their giant cities with smokestacks and factories and things are changing and the money they're making is less and less and

less and they're being treated worse and worse and worse. And he's like, I want to pose that the reaction to the more sci-fi elements of the exact same thing, aliens seeing ships in the sky, that's a reaction to the, you know, since the fifties into today of people who, you know, are being more and more stomped upon looking for something as like, there's something greater out there and we're all just like, it's all being kept from us and it's all secrets.

And so that's, you know, I think it even relates to some of the things you see with some religious people right now who are like, really into some things you're like, wait a minute, what? What's happening? And so this all comes down to the last secret. And so the last secret is one of those things that is so fascinating because it was supposed to be released in the sixties. There's like controversy about it, right? Oh, tons. It was not released in the sixties. In fact, it

wasn't released until I think it was the year 2000. Yeah, the year 2000, it was released. Damn. And they said this is going to be, you know, it's for the millennium, right? And we'll really, and so they kept putting it off. And so everyone was like, oh my God, what is the secret? What is the, like, what could the secret possibly be? It must be, and it became the subject of a lot of conspiracy theories, a lot of crazy things, because it was supposed to be the sixties and

it never happened. They never released it. It was like the Vatican's keeping it a secret. And so the JFK files never being released ever. Yeah. And the Vatican came out and said, all right, she wrote down in four pieces of paper this statement. And basically it is to sum it all up, hey, be good, pray, repent, God will take care of you. That's pretty much it. It's a lot of symbolism about like people climbing up mountains and at the top is a cross and like those who are bad will be

like cast aside. It is, it's pretty much just, hey, be a good person and like be religious and, you know, just take care of your fellow man, that kind of thing. And it got a lot of controversy because people were like, well, wait, that's it. Yeah, like why do they need to wait? Yeah. And the biggest thing that I think is fascinating and that makes me feel like the church just made it up. And this again, this is what leads to even more conspiracy theories. When Lucia

wrote her memoirs, she said she wrote what the third prophecy was down on a piece of paper. The Vatican released four pieces of paper. Yeah. So everyone's like, they're clearly hiding still the last prophecy and they don't want us to know what it is. Right. So my mind, initially when I saw all the stuff was like, oh, the church just made it all up. It's all BS. But I love the idea that they're like, we cannot show them this last piece of paper. It's Tim Tann Brown's next

novel, dude. Yes, I think it's so much fun. I'm not totally sure that that's not in one of his novels. That would not surprise me at all. I kind of lost, I kind of ran into steam after the second one, but I'm shy. There's only so many mysteries, right? Yeah, at least religious ones. Yeah. That's good, though. Thank you for diving more into that because now that I know the secrets, it's not disappointing is the wrong word, but interesting in a wildly different context.

Yeah. And it's certainly one that like the more you read into it, the more like the whole situation is fascinating. And there are, let me just say, if you want to dig deep into the third prophecy, the third secret, there's so many other things that make it great for conspiracy because, you know, like, why was it written in the form of a letter when she was like a secret? Like, why does it not mention the Virgin Mary at all really? It doesn't sound like the

Virgin Mary said it. It's just like, this is what happened, right? There's so many things that are in it that are like, this is unlike the other two prophecies. So, oh yeah, it's so good. It was like, oh. That's perfect bait for anybody to be like, you're lying. Perfect bait. Perfect bait. It's amazing. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. Well, thank you boys. That's some good shit. And thank you patrons for giving us your money and continuing to directly support this show.

We are very appreciative that we keep, keep getting to entertain you. We will be back next week with another mini-sode following the cult episode that we're about to get from Alex, which I'm very excited for. Brilliant. They just have such an aesthetic, man. They just have such an aesthetic. We'll see you next week, everybody. Goodbye. Bye. Thank you to today's sponsor of this episode, Felix Gray. So,

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They keep growing. We crossed 900 patrons on the Patreon. I don't like it. So many of you all. I need a coffee cup that says hello my little chilluminats. I would love that. I'll look into that. Maybe it means you're back in the morning like hello. When it gets hot it turns up and says hello my little chilluminats. Ooh, I like it. It just says that. Hello my little chilluminats. Yeah, the coffee cup has a speaker on the bottom. Right, yeah. That's expensive coffee cup.

Oh yeah, it's gonna cost $400. We'll sell only one of them. That's all we need to sell. That's what I'm saying. Alex, do you want to start this mini-soat or do you want to put the button on it? I feel like yours is pretty important and can go either way. Let's just get out of the way because I was pimping it so hard. Okay. I'm just going to send you a video on YouTube. Okay? What? And then you tell me what ongoing mystery I solved with this video. Ready? Okay. I'm a little nervous.

It's a little it's a little bit sad that it this is the explanation but it's also but it's also very funny. Okay, I see the mystery you solved. So disappointed. So disappointed. Incredibly disappointed. So disappointed. That's what it's been the entire time? Okay, so to be clear what they are looking at is a video of a drone that is attached to a one-to-one size model of a man in a camo jacket and a motorcycle helmet and it is a free-flying drone that can take off and it looks like a man with a

jetpack and according to of course this is the this is the most likely explanation for the person that has been reportedly seen around LAX by pilots on multiple occasions over the past few months. This video is not of somebody in Los Angeles so that's one point in favor of it being Elon Musk trying out his Iron Man suit but the according to the Black Vault which we know is the sort of Freedom of Information Act happy sort of dump an American Airlines pilot who made the original jetpack siding reported to the FBI

that quote what he saw was exactly like the drone in the YouTube video below. Damn, that is a very disappointing end to a fascinating mystery that's plagued us for a little while. It's an unmanned drone in the shape of a man with two sets of those like drone helicopter sort of propulsion fans. So disappointing. I'm watching it and getting more disappointed every second you talk about it. It is insanely sad. It sucks because it really looks like a fucking dude with a jetpack. Yeah, especially when you're seeing it from so far away in the air and stuff like there's just no way to know.

They even went out on a limb to like put a NASA symbol on the back of the jetpack and he like tilts backwards when he flies up and he has like the two little hands things and he goes really far away and he goes really high up in the video and I'm fairly convinced that this is what. I mean there's no way to know for sure but this is right like this is my number one now suspicion as to what this is actually happening. Yeah, yeah. So sorry but also I figured it out.

Way to go Alex. Well, we talked a little bit about cloning and Jesse specifically about immortality. So I kind of wanted to talk about this. I'm sure you guys know where I'm going with this. But literally two days ago yesterday something like that. Microsoft files a patent to revive dead loved ones as AI chat box. This is a Black Mirror episode come to life. Microsoft has been granted a patent that would allow the company to make a chat bot using the personal information of deceased people.

The patent describes creating a bot based on the images, voice data, social media posts and electronic messages and more personal information. Microsoft has even included the notion of 2D or 3D models of specific people being generated via images and depth information or video data. If that sounds familiar because it is this was the exact plot of the first episode of the second season of Black Mirror. I was curious what your thoughts are about that and if you were just like hell no or this is fascinating. I don't want to speak to my relatives

that are gone that are gone by pretending that they're there. This is like what fucking what's his name? Johnny Silverhand. This is like the same shit. Yes, it's very similar. Yeah. Did you it's it's basically creating like a personality based on your like search history like all the information gathered by like Google and shit. Did you guys ever see the the the stuff that Google knows about you via ad personalizations? I have no idea. If you go to ads settings I'll actually just link it and you can click on it.

It'll show you everything Google assumes it knows about you via the searches that and stuff that you've done with Google. Oh god. Just go there and everything this is as long as you're logged in as yourself. Oh. Oh. Yeah. Like a lot of it is like wrong enough that it like makes me less interested in like in like stuff. But like they're guessing the size of my employer. Yeah. Yeah. Mine too. They've got my age right.

Yeah. They got my age. They know every size of your employer. How'd they do that? They they you can click on it. It tells you what I think this they they're they're basing their assumptions on. What do you mean you click on it? Well, it depends. You got to scroll down the list and see what you're seeing. All I guess I guess they don't they don't I guess they don't think that I have an employer. Thankfully they might not be on there for you. Depends on your own like what you're searching because you might it might

pick up that you own a company or you're like by yourself. All it says for me is that it says I'm between 35 and 44. I'm a male. I like action adventure films. I like this is literally what it says. This is in order of me. This is how it knows me. 35 to 44 male Adobe Redbubble action adventure films. Action adventure platform games, adventure games, American football, animated films, audio equipment, bars, clubs, nightlife, beaches and islands,

biological sciences, the blues, board games, books and literature. What? Here's the thing. They're not wrong. Here's that. All right. Bridalware. Not sure where that comes in. Bridalware. I wonder what the I wonder what the what the thing is that you searched. Probably like hot brides. It has my job industry. It literally says job industry technology industry for me. Like it knows the industry that I'm in.

Lot of camera, photo equipment, coffee, espresso, a lot of coffee things on here. Comedy films, a lot of electronic stuff, a lot of things about discounts. And then flowers, games. It's got me like pretty dead to rights. Yeah. Yeah. It's got me dead on this. My list is I have to scroll and scroll. It has so much on me. I do not love that. Here's the crazy thing. All of this. Oh, shit.

Here we go. Now. Now I see it. Parental status. Not apparent. It knew that immediately. Pets. None. Wow. They got my ass. Wow. Oh, I don't like that one bit. Yep. It knows I have pets. Not apparent. Oh, wow. It's it's a little creepy. It's a little creepy.

All right. Again, you take this and then you try to form a Jesse out of it. Obviously, with your text messages and videos that you've made, this is probably enough of you out there, Jesse, that if you died tomorrow, they could make like a weird semi probably correct like purse. AI personality. Any nerd on the Internet. This is what they told me is literally what every other guy who looks like me is doing. Well, that's only one of the things.

They also base it on your text messages, all kinds of different shit. Like if they were to create a personality. I'm just really curious how they got the things that I noticed that stood out is bridal wear, weddings and what was the other one and women's clothing. And I don't know what I have ever looked those up. And I wonder if it's because over the past three years, like eight friends have gotten married. And so I've done a lot of like going to their different websites.

They send me to for weddings and like, oh, look at what they're wearing like that. I can't figure out why that's in there because I'm not ever going out there like, you know what I what's going on with ladies fashion lately? It's nothing I have ever I'm wearing the same shirt I wore like three days ago. I'm not fashion has never concerned me. So I don't know why I'm like, you know what? That's weird. What's going on in the world of shorts or shorts?

I never wanted to wear shorts anyway. I wanted to be a lumberjack. Mine even guess is like what my household income is and what like. Yeah, I don't like. I do not like it. I don't like it. It says household income upper middle. It's not so accurate that it's like it's still a little.

I don't feel like I've been like violated completely like my privacy, but it's already alphabetical Jesse. I think so. But it's pretty creepy. Yeah. I don't see that. It's creepy enough. I don't see income.

Yeah. Household income for me. You might not know. I might not have a good guess for you. It's like maybe it just doesn't know. Good. Yeah. Anyway, so that's it.

So anyway, I don't like the fact that they want to bring Microsoft's like, we got your dead people. We can bring them back. That was that was the point of all this. But then we signed right like that. Okay. Anyway, Jesse, you're up. I like that.

Um, wow. So I'm sorry. I mean, my, my story was, uh, not even going to be anything important. Basically, um, this past, uh, I guess like week and a half or whatever. Um, they, I figured you would have done this. But apparently the, uh, CIA, this happened. Oh no. This article that I have is 11 days ago.

But, um, the black vault documents, which cover everything from mysterious Russian explosions to top government officials being hand delivered. Like UFO, Intel, all that stuff. Apparently, uh, there was a massive dump of 27 pages. I've been, I've been, it's how many pages again? Sorry. 2700 pages stuff since the 1980s. Yes.

Yeah. And a lot of it is redacted from my understanding. That's what I was going to, you know, uh, we've talked about this stuff before, but, uh, apparently what I was going to say is that there are now people are trying to release like the collector's editions of them. So basically it's, it's all this information and then they are creating like book, get your, you know how they have like commemorative quotes? Like that, they're trying to do that.

But with this, and I think it is amazing. It's like your collector's DVD as we explore my 2700 pages. Like that is the thing that is happening. I will not buy that. I want to talk about it because it's really funny because of Steelers. Let's steal it. Of course everyone is like, let's steal it. Yeah.

Monetizing information dumps. Information dumps. Oh my God, stop. You think people are the reasons that we can't get serious shit done in this goddamn field. I just want to know if aliens are real and you trying to like hawk government documents for a pretty penny just makes you look like people desperate for money. So that's what I thought was funny. I thought I would tell you guys that, you know, we've covered it in the past.

Well, talked about the, the dumps and apparently I've been keeping up with the dump to the best. Well, I have been keeping up with other people who are trying to parse. I've got regular dumps as well. The dumps. But like the issue I'm, people, a lot of people are saying is like, it's so heavily fucking censored. Like it's so redacted that it's like hard to pull anything out of it in the first place

that it might as well be useless. Right. So great. 2700 pages of blacked out paragraphs. Well, I think, I think what this is supposed to be is the recontextualization and like, we're going to give you this new information repackaged the way we think it should be explained to you. But there's, but it's being like hawked as like the commemorative 27.

I fucking hate it. I hate it so much. So I figured you would like to know that. Yeah. All right. Thank you. There's no money in UFOs. Leave it alone.

No. Oh God. Well, God, I just want to be like, this is my this is my like monthly call to the aliens. Just like show yourself like don't even come down. Don't abduct me. Just let me see like you zipping in the sky for a couple seconds. Like let me see something weird that I can come back to next week and tell you boys about

so that Alex can be like, that sounds cool. And Jesse can tell me I was stoned. So that's, that's all I need. I get it. I absolutely get it. All right. We'll wrap it up this week. Thank you guys so much for listening to patrons.

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