Chilluminati Podcast - Episode 99 - The Lost Egyptian Colony of America

Episode Date: May 5, 2021

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Starting point is 00:02:22 And I'm not, I am, I am, oh, boy, 99 episodes and we're not going to make it to 100. We're not even going to make it to 100. This is going to be the last episode, dude, because we bring on today a special guest. For those of you who don't really follow us in our other endeavors and video games and stuff, Crendor, would you mind introducing yourself to those who may not know who or what you are? What am I? I don't even know.
Starting point is 00:02:50 That's a good question. Hey, it's me. I'm Crendor. You may know me from such things as the co-optional podcast from years ago, derailing it. You may know me from such things as Cox and Crendor, a podcast I do with Jesse where we're almost episode 300. I don't even know how that far in. Wow, that's wild.
Starting point is 00:03:08 How does that feel? It feels like it always has. Just getting the routine and then it piles up and then you're 100 episodes in. It's fucking insane. Yeah. In eight years ago, I think eight or nine. Yeah. So it's man.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Wow. Really? That's been going on for eight or nine years. That's awesome. It's crazy, but that's wild. As long as we realize we could just talk about anything and people would listen. Yeah. That was wild.
Starting point is 00:03:34 That was a crazy revelation. We were just like, what if we talk about anything? Okay. And that's it. That was it. There's the show. Congratulations. That's like researchers.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Yeah. We've been working. No, there's none of that. I don't think I've ever researched a Cox and Cren d'Or episode. So you can't be mad that I did not expect Cren d'Or to come here with a topic then. I'm mad because I came with the expectation that today on our 99th episode, we would have Cren d'Or on my co-host for eight years. And he was about to tell us something crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Like I was in the woods. It was the summer of 2014. You thought he was going to cast us out as like a true believer? That's where I saw Squatch. Squatch kidnapped me and forced me to mate with her. We had four Squatch babies. I was ready for it. And now I got nothing.
Starting point is 00:04:37 I used to listen to coast to coast AM every night. Great show. For the just to hear the people, you know what I mean? It was like you'd see the people calling it all the time. That was the guy. I was like, I tell you what, I got a gun on my bedside and one night I dreamt I was attacked by aliens and I shot at the alien. I woke up and there was bullets missing.
Starting point is 00:04:59 It's like, what the shit? You gotta believe, man. The ones you gotta listen to that man just probably shot at like a bird or something. We've talked about this numerous times. I want to just say our bell still way better than George Norrie. Still way better. Still way better. Whatever, you know, I'm just going to put that out there.
Starting point is 00:05:20 George Norrie more. Anyone? I just say it like our bell will be like, that's that's a lie. You aren't. That's not true. And George Norrie is like, interesting. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. If somebody calls me, he's like, George, George, when I when it's not time outside,
Starting point is 00:05:38 I see little green men and you know what I like to sit back up here. I'm like, I'm telling you, they're out there. George, George is like, get the fuck out of here. So an art would have been like, you drunk bitch. Get out of here. Oh my God. There was one time I was listening and he literally brought up Sasquatch. This guy called in.
Starting point is 00:05:59 He's like, I was taken by them. I was taken by the Squatch. I lived with them in their cave. I was naked. They fed me. They clothed me and they erased my memory. And one day they just left me in the middle of the woods. They fed and clothed him.
Starting point is 00:06:14 What the hell? I've never heard of a Squatch taking that good a care of anybody. I love that. We have all just crazy. How does he know what happens if they erase his memory? I don't know. That's a great question. They're like little love notes left in his clothes.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I guess he remembers being taken by them and then like being dropped off. Yeah. The Sasquatches, they fucked up. They took their glowing rock and they only dialed it back. So long. They didn't. They forgot. They have men in black technology and we're never going to get it.
Starting point is 00:06:46 We're never. No, we are never going to get it. All right. That's kind of episode you're looking forward to today. There you go. That's that. Yeah, welcome. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:06:55 So I was talking to my, uh, I took it took it into my hands and I decided to see if I could find something weird. And of course I wanted to start with something maybe local to where you live, unfortunately through researching Chicago. Chicago is relatively low on paranormal, but maximized on crime. Like there's just so many crime stories out there. That's a true story. I'm looking, I'm trying to look up ghost stories
Starting point is 00:07:16 and it's just telling me about crimes that are happening in Chicago. There's no like Capone ghost or something like that. This is just like Fox News at this point. Yeah. There's a couple of things. Yeah. Yeah. Pretty much there's a couple of things.
Starting point is 00:07:26 I mean, Crandor sent me a couple of things about Resurrection Mary and stuff, but even like looking at Resurrection Mary and we're not going to cover that. No, because it's not, there's not a lot there. There's not what is Resurrection Mary real quick lady gets killed on a highway hit by a car in the graveyard. She tends to show up and she burned the gates where she grabbed onto them at one point.
Starting point is 00:07:46 That's pretty much the extent of the story. There's actually a picture of the gate where it's burned and you can take a look, look at it and that's, that's, that's like the long and short of it. Okay. That's your ghost story. So Resurrection Mary. Yeah. I, uh, I decided to go for something weirder, uh, something a little
Starting point is 00:08:00 bit, uh, interesting. So as I was looking, um, first I want to say my, my, uh, what I discovered, what I wanted to do came from Tik Tok. So I feel like this is a Alex, kind of a weird Alex. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Shameless selling out.
Starting point is 00:08:15 That's right. Alex shouldn't we be doing that? Yes. Yeah. I got Crandor threw me so off. I was going to forget. I told you, I told you. No one ever forgets about this because here's the thing.
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Starting point is 00:09:11 And it honestly like bits aside does like help us run our lives. You know, it's like, you know, it makes this a job for us rather than just something we do for fun. And you know, you only benefit. You only stand to benefit. You know, and if you love the show and you want to hear it every week without ads, that's a great reason to head over there. But also after every episode, you get 15 minutes of brand new fresh shilluminats every
Starting point is 00:09:38 time little chill minis straight from our mouths to your mouths because we are basically kissing you with our knowledge, with our microphones through the internet. And that's how I want to sign up for a Shilluminati Patreon anymore. You're going to be flowing down your throat as I tell you about things that are questionably correct or not. What? Well, thank you, Alex. Appreciate taking us to that Shilluminati segment.
Starting point is 00:10:08 So today's episode comes from TikTok initially. This is where the seed was planted. I don't know about you boys, but I'm on TikTok. I'm like part of like three subgroups. I'm on like conspiracy talk. I'm on millennial talk. And I'm like ADHD. There's subgroups on there.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah, man. Like as your as your algorithm kind of refines who you are, you start finding yourselves in very specific kind of subgenres. That says a lot about me. Most of my my algorithm is like when I scroll through and I don't know, like I don't follow anyone. So when I scroll through, it's like people discussing their divorce girls, girls like flirting with the camera and then people doing comedy standup routines of comedians.
Starting point is 00:10:51 But like the like them voicing it. And I'm like, why is this? That's what I get. Oh, and food videos, but food videos where people talk about divorcing their people are just pouring nacho cheese on the fucking counter. Yeah, I don't know what I watched. Yeah. So I think because they keep scrolling through it, it just makes the algorithm like more
Starting point is 00:11:12 firm or it's like, that's what he likes. He loves it. I didn't even know you could search for things until you like it. I don't hear. I will say I'm not a fan of the divorce stories because they this is how they work every time and a tiktok user will know this. It's like, so the day I caught my husband cheating on me and we're getting a divorce. Follow me for video to know for a while, I was stuck on like dead spouse tiktok where
Starting point is 00:11:44 it was like he like it shows a picture with sad music and then a hard cuts to like them at their grave site on their knee crying. Very good. I found myself there. I had to get out. I discovered that there's a racket. Like there's a genuine scam part of tiktok. So a great there's one where it was a dad and he had like a sign and he was at an airport
Starting point is 00:12:07 and his daughter was behind him freaking out and the sign as he's like going through like the crappy music they're playing in the background and revealing parts of the sign. The sign basically says that the dad is there with his daughter and this guy that she loves is coming to meet her, but she has an opportunity to go overseas and she'll follow her career and so if this guy loves her, he'll let her go overseas and break up with her, right? Because it's the right thing to do for his daughter. And I was like, I got to see where this video goes. So I click on the page and the page is a company kind of like maker studios kind of and all
Starting point is 00:12:44 of it is videos with the same actors doing like one is a sign. He's like, I found out that my wife cheated with the five men behind me and he's revealing it. Oh, I've seen those. But like, it was their fake same actors, all the same actors in every single day. They were fake as shit right away. I was like, this is, but I didn't think it was so Blake. Like it's obviously videos.
Starting point is 00:13:09 It's like, what are we doing here? That's wild. It's probably so fake, but like I couldn't believe it was so lazy that I just scrolled one thing over and I was like, Oh, this is they're all the same people. Well, I don't think you understand. Most people probably never leave their for you page and never go to investigate. So they just assume it's real move on. Those are like Facebook and stuff too.
Starting point is 00:13:29 So like they're all literally one actor was in three different ones and over the course of those three, he was the dad of a girl who's he and his best friend were going to convince was pregnant that he like got his best friends, his daughter's best friend pregnant. That was the goof. Uh, and then he also was the guy who was cheated on by, by his wife with four other dudes. And he was also the son of an old man who was dying. This guy was all three and I was just like the big three crazy life, dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Say that. He's not alive. I couldn't believe it. I was going away. Conspiracy tick tock. If you can find yourself there is filled with videos that have like a hundred likes and a person like who has like a light bulb working in their room. So it's really hard to see what they're saying and they're spouting off about how they met
Starting point is 00:14:21 their aliens and their lucid dreams and are the guiding light to my bread and butter like that puts you there. It puts you there. You got people who like stop scrolling. This one's for you. And they like throw the bones and start reading the bones. Yeah. But you got to hear that like now I'm convinced that's fake.
Starting point is 00:14:36 We just talked about how the, all these other things are fake. Why is this real? That's true. Nothing's real. But a mixed in that as people who like take news clippings of like, I bet you didn't know about this. And one of those sent me kind of a down a rabbit hole. What if I told you everything about our the United States history from its discovery even
Starting point is 00:14:54 before is all a lie and everything we were taught in high school was truly a lie. And even the Smithsonian is so deep in trying to hide the true history here of the United States that they burned and destroyed evidence to keep it silent. I mean, I had to believe it, honestly. What? No, no, I can't be like, this is the dust they have ever heard. Can we kind of be like, I believe that right now and just have Crandor be the new third host? I already like where's that man? It's like history's always like a little wishy washy, right?
Starting point is 00:15:27 Like look at the what do you call them? Like the Catholic church, like burning books and shit. We don't want these on the Bible. Then you're just like, well, I wouldn't do that. They were not like any of you would have read those books anyway. Who knows? Maybe that's some cool shit in it. Maybe it was like a gladiator fight. And he's like, God save me.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And he became like a giant. He beat up someone. I don't know. There's nothing. There was nothing in there about a giant. There were no giants. There's a really famous. No, no, no, no, that was just that was Goliath was like six to we are going to do an episode on giants and if they're possibly actually still around today.
Starting point is 00:16:10 One day, because it's possible. They're not anyway. So they're not. But I was even getting that topic. I just need to mention something that I came across from an article in 1934. Did you know that there's a map of the secret lizard city under L.A. And in 1934, it was described by a man named G. Warren Shuffelt to the L.A.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Times, and he said he discovered the the remnants of an ancient reptilian civilization under L.A. Where did you now? Which Q website did you go to find? Is that the same G from House of the Dead? Yeah, well, he suffered and you will suffer like G did. Yeah. Yeah, this one I'm not buying as much. Is there a picture?
Starting point is 00:16:54 There is a picture. Let me let me link all of you on Zoom here. I want the massive picture. Yeah, all right. We should go explore. Alex, there you go, right there, right there. It's on Gizmodo. Yeah. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Ancient lizard city under L.A. I love the word. I love that in like certain parts of the map, there's just like the word gold with arrows pointing in all directions. Gold everywhere, man. So this I found interesting. I just wanted you to know, Jesse, that in the city you live, you have reptilians living underneath you.
Starting point is 00:17:26 So just be ready there. You'll be the first city to go when you know there would have been something found out of the lizards. The government doesn't want you to know the government, though. Great. Well, if you. Well, I mean, if they're reptilians, they have a contract with the government and they're able to abduct X number of L.A. No, this would have been announced if this was discovered in 1934.
Starting point is 00:17:49 They probably made some sort of contract. It would be if this was discovered in 1934 and was real. They'd be like, come to L.A. for the lizard people. No, there's a quote about the food. Look, it says there's domes. There's rooms in the domes of the hills above the city with labyrinths that have thousands of families in the manner of tall buildings and imperishable food supplies of the herb variety.
Starting point is 00:18:13 So they're vegetarian. So they're in reptilians. They truly are L.A. Reptilians. And apparently they dug the tunnels after the great catastrophe five thousand years ago using chemicals instead of shovels. Of course, this is obviously true. Yeah, this is obviously true.
Starting point is 00:18:28 It makes sense. But what's that? What's the great catastrophe? What happened five thousand years ago? It was probably something great alien war that that ended up wiping out most living things on earth. And also, what are the lizard people even like want? Not a great question. That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:18:45 They just want to be part of the whole, you know, maybe they just want to join you know, part of this world. Take over our society, obviously, run the government, right? I think that's, you know, maybe or they raise the tension. There's that the graze intent. What do they get from that? That's true.
Starting point is 00:18:58 That's reptilians are the ones that are supposedly in our government. The satisfaction of knowing they pull one over on us. Of a job well done. All right, maybe you're asking too many questions, right? This is not all about question. This is not going to work out. So but our real topic today actually does it concerns ourselves with the quote unquote discovery of America.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Obviously, there are people living here in this world. This land wasn't truly discovered by anybody, Christopher Columbus or otherwise. What if I told you Christopher Columbus wasn't the first traveler? Vikings weren't the first traveler. What if I told you there was evidence of an Egyptian colony found in the center of the United States in the Grand Canyon that showed that we had Egyptian settlers crossing over the United States and making their home somewhere, whether they were lost or whether on purpose.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And they ended up with a they end up creating Jesse's starting to slowly unravel and they end up creating their own small little colony deep down into the Grand Canyon. Time out. Time out. All right. All right. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. All right. All right. Let's pretend like is this your main story?
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Starting point is 00:21:16 Visit a Motorsportsland RV center or motorsportsland.com today and let Motorsportsland help you get away. All right. Time out. Time out. Let's just start from the beginning. All right. My name is Pharaoh Jesse. You are my brave warriors. We and I guess, you know, Alex can be the priest each night. You have dreams of a land far from here that you must.
Starting point is 00:21:39 I had all these dreams of this magic land. Now, in my capacity as Pharaoh, I know that we can travel up and down the Nile River. I know that there is a peoples to the north of us. I know that to the south of us are peoples as well. I also know that there's great bodies of water surrounding us. Now, if I construct a fleet to reach this place I've dreamed of
Starting point is 00:22:09 because I have no other reason to go there, right? Because as I look to my west, there's a massive desert, which I'm not crossing. And if I look to my east, there are all of the other nations of the world, the Babylonians and such that I don't want to mess with. So I've decided I'm going to sail down a little strip of water. And now here's the question.
Starting point is 00:22:33 I turned to my priest and to my warriors. Yeah, gentlemen, we must make way for this land with which I have dreamed. Do we go left or right? Because either way, we are almost on the opposite side of the damn world. And I just want to know where they go. Where do you have the technologies they had back then? Have you seen the documentary called Stargate? Not only have I seen it, I've watched several seasons of the follow-up series.
Starting point is 00:23:09 How do you go left James Spader to that to that guy, though? You know what I mean? I mean, they got to do what they got to do. All I'm saying is saying to yourself, there's no evidence of this. Well, what I'm not even that. I'm just let's say it's all real. I'm just saying let's say it's all real. That's let's say it's all real.
Starting point is 00:23:28 So we have we have now left Egypt via the Nile, which is the way we get through and do everything, which first off, I don't know how that works. Then then we find ourselves, I don't know, in the Mediterranean question mark or we I don't know what we're doing. So now we're going to head across the Atlantic, which I assume is the right way. We have to go across the Atlantic. I would go across the Pacific.
Starting point is 00:23:56 It's they went they went across the Pacific. Here's all right. So what you're telling me is they went. I haven't like all right. You're telling me that instead of going across the much shorter Atlantic Ocean, they don't know I had to go. They decided to go down Pat the Egyptians. Past India, I didn't do it on purpose.
Starting point is 00:24:14 I got lost or something past India, past all of Asia in like which at the time there were like the Chinese weren't just like sitting around. So past all of that, then through the massive Pacific Ocean. Yeah, and then landed in California and said, you know what? Not desert enough. Let's keep going inland. And so they were like, all right, let's keep going. Oh, no, we found we found several deserts.
Starting point is 00:24:43 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we need to go even further in this canyon. Well, we're going to hide out in the canyon before you continue. The Grand Canyon is actually lots of places are kind of cornered off because there's a lot of like old places where ancient peoples lived down in the Grand Canyon. Oh, no, I was going to get to that. OK, and at the same time, displace the native cultures that have existed on this continent for quite some time at that point.
Starting point is 00:25:11 And they're just going to like do all that. There's a small group in the Grand Canyon. The Grand Canyon is where they chose. That's where they are. Not on the coast where a colony would be perfect. Look, if you hit like Tijuana area and you go through like Mexicali area, right? They march their asses that far.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And it's not that far. That's not that far. These people that's lifeblood is the Nile River water. They know is the lifeblood of existence. Let's leave that shit behind. She's a couple hundred miles. By the way, I mean, they also tracing back to they was somewhere around the Ramses era.
Starting point is 00:25:50 The Ramses era. No, it's the golden age, the greatest time. Do not I mean, even I don't really believe this myth is I'm not going to lie. Remember when you were saying about book burnings? Is that you ever heard of the library of Alexandria? Maybe that whole shit is in there. Maybe maybe they had fucking over. Maybe they had a fucking hover technology.
Starting point is 00:26:14 We don't know. They they I always said if you're going to have hover technology write it down on a piece of parchment. Have you seen the helicopter hieroglyphics? Have you seen the batteries that they have in their tune? The batteries did exist. See, but those those are rudimentary and they aren't like press a button to accelerate to hyperspace level nine.
Starting point is 00:26:36 That's that's not it's probably because it was operated by their minds. You got to think big. You got to think big. That's why I'm the priest because they were aliens, obviously hiding their cone head. That's how I got to be the high priest. Right, Indiana Jones, Temple of the Crystal Skull. I've seen it. We've all seen it. Now, great.
Starting point is 00:26:54 The evidence for this is a single newspaper article from 1909. You need a year. It was supposed to be discovered in the Arizona Gazette on April 5th. Question. I'm going to read this. This guy later go on to find these are people underneath their legs. Well, let me read the article for you. And then I believe this is a story you have. I'm so set with you right now.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Listen, I knew I was going to have to find suitably. I'm so mad. Weird and kind of dumb. Just no, I want to know what to do. I do too. I'll be honest. It hooked me when I had that the TikTok show up in like 10 seconds. They were like, I was joking about this being our last episode. But we are on track.
Starting point is 00:27:36 We are like, we've we've solved all the mysteries. Now we're like Egyptians in the Grand Canyon. Why not? Here's the thing after this story, I can bring up I can bring up a conspiracy that you can the you can talk about a bit. I want to hear your opinions on it. All right. Well, great.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I love this episode. I'm really worried in April, the latest news of the progress of the explorations of what is now regarded by scientists is not only the oldest archaeological discovery in the United States, one of the most valuable in the world, which was mentioned some time ago in the Gazette was brought to the city yesterday by G. E. Kincaid, the explorer who found the great underground. That dude is selling snake oil.
Starting point is 00:28:19 That man is one hundred. He has like a traveling cart. And he's like, I think a little girl saw him and then went in a tornado and thought of him as the Wizard of Oz. G. E. Kincaid. That is the most 1900s name I've ever heard of, dude. G. E. Kincaid before it was an explorer. He was an explorer in 1909.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Monorail. Monorail. Just just just two G. E. Kincaid's credit. The guy, the like crazy old rich man of Los Angeles. His actual name is Griffith Jenkins Griffith. OK, just like the guy from the observatory. His first and his last name are Griffith. Just so you know, the man that was Griffith Griffith Griffith.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Griffith J. Griffith, like a loony tube. I don't know if I'm too stoned for this. I gotta say, Los Angeles is a great city episode of the Simpsons, like two weeks ago. Yeah, Monorail. G. E. Kincaid sells monorails for sure. It was brought to the city yesterday by G. E. Kincaid, the explorer who found the great underground citadel of the Grand Canyon during a trip to from Green River, Wyoming, down down the Colorado and a wooden boat
Starting point is 00:29:38 to Yuma several months ago. According to the story related to the Gazette by Mr. Kincaid himself, the archaic archaeologists of the Smithsonian Institute, which is financing the expeditions, have made discoveries that almost conclusively prove that the race which inhabited this mysterious cavern, Cunean solid rock by human hands was of oriental origin, possibly from Egypt tracing back to Ramses. If their theories are borne out by the translation of the tablets
Starting point is 00:30:04 engraved with hieroglyphics, the mystery of the prehistoric peoples of North America, their ancient arts, who they were and whence they came will be solved. Egypt and the Nile and Arizona and the Colorado will be linked by a historical chain running back to the ages, which staggers the wildest fancy of the fictionist. So I guess they're saying that that the Nile was connected in that regard. They're also saying that Egypt is in the Orient, which is a stretch. I mean, I'm reading the newspaper article.
Starting point is 00:30:34 I need I need you to if you'd be so kind. Go back to that last sentence and read it like a 1920s newsman. OK, I'll do my. Yeah, yeah, this last one. Egypt and the Nile and Arizona and the Colorado will be linked by a historical chain running back to ages, which staggers the wildest fancy of the fictionist. There you go. That's the like of the fiction. Like the fictionist is another crazy word like the completionist arch enemy. Yeah, the fictionist is out there.
Starting point is 00:31:05 It's great. It's not even the game, dude. No, I played Mario eight. Pretty good. My dad's got an advanced copy of it. Yeah. Well, that's my uncle works at Nintendo. This is Japan. Be real. Now, let's continue this article here, a thorough examination under the direction of Professor S.A. Jordan.
Starting point is 00:31:25 The Smithsonian Institute is now prosecuting the most thorough explorations, which will be continued until the last link in the chain is forged. Nearly a mile underground, about 1,480 feet below the surface, the long main passage has been delved into to find another mammoth chamber, which radiates scores of passageways like the spokes of a wheel. Several hundred rooms have been discovered, reached by passageways running from the main passage. One of them having having been explored for eight hundred and fifty four
Starting point is 00:31:53 feet and another for six hundred and thirty four feet. The recent finds include articles that have never been known as native to this country and doubtless that they had their origin in the Orient. War weapons, copper instruments, sharp, edged and hard to steal indicate the high state of civilization reached by these strange people. So interested, so interested how the scientists become that preparations are being made to equip the camp for extensive studies and the force will be increased to 30 or 40 persons.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Mr. Kincaid was the first white child born in Idaho and has been an explorer and hunter all his life, 30 years having been in the service of the Smithsonian Institute, even briefly recounted his history, sounds fabulous, almost grotesque. So basically, supposedly Mr. Kincaid was an explorer for the Smithsonian. He went out for the Smithsonian and looked at places. Excellent. The first white child born in Idaho. Supposedly.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Kind of stars then. Oh, no, that's why I want to read this whole article or almost one more than half a hour now. Wait, I'll wait before I destroy this for you. The article here, this is a quote. First, I would impress that the cavern is nearly inaccessible. The entrance is one thousand four hundred and eighty six feet down the sheer canyon wall. It is located on government land and no visitor will be allowed there under penalty of trespass.
Starting point is 00:33:11 The scientists wish to work unmolested without fear of archaeological discoveries being disturbed by curio or relic hunters. A trip there would be fruitless and the visitor would be sent on his way. The story of how I found the cavern has been related. But in a paragraph, I was journeying down the Colorado River in a boat alone, looking for mineral and mineral. In this term, they mean gold because the gold rush was basically in full effect at this point.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Some 42 miles up the river from the El Tovar crystal canyon, I saw on the east wall stains in the sedimentary formation about 2000 feet above the riverbed. There was no trail to this point, but I finally reached it with great difficulty. Above a shelf that hid it from view from the river was the mouth of the cave. There are steps leading from this entrance, some 30 yards to what was at the time the cavern was inhabited, the level of the river. Sorry, I said that weird.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Entrance from 30 yards from was at the time of the cavern was inhabited, the level of the river. When I saw the the chisel marks on the wall inside the entrance, I became interested, securing my gun and went in. During that trip, I went back several hundred feet along the main passage till I came to the crypt in which I discovered the mummies. One of these, I stood up and photographed by flashlight. I gathered a number of relics, which I carry down the Colorado to Yuma from
Starting point is 00:34:26 whence I shipped them to Washington with details of the discovery. Following this, the explorations were undertaken. Take a break there for a minute. If you're wondering where there is the picture, doesn't exist. We don't have a picture. Supposedly, he took one. Supposedly, Mr. Kincaid was a professional photographer by trade on top of being an explorer,
Starting point is 00:34:44 but we do not have this picture that he supposedly took on that on that journey. I was going to ask what his credentials were, besides being the first white child born an idol. In 1909, that's all you needed, man. That is what every person born is a child. Also, just throw it out there. Hold on, hold on. It's just I could fear this experience to break down.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Uh, he goes on for a fault furthering following rather breaking down what the passageways look like. The main passageway is about 12 feet wide, narrowing to nine feet toward the farther end, about 57 feet from the entrance. The first side passages branch off to the right and left, along which on both sides are a number of rooms about the size of ordinary living rooms of today, though some are 30 by 40 feet square. These are entered by these are entered by oval shaped doors
Starting point is 00:35:35 and are ventilated by round air spaces through the walls into the passages. The walls are about three, six, three feet, six inches in thickness. The passages are chiseled or hewn as straight as could as could be laid out by an engineer, the ceilings of many of the rooms converge to a center. The side passages near the entrance run at a sharp angle from the main hall, but toward the rear. They gradually reach a right angle in direction. Then there's the shrine over 100 feet from the entrances,
Starting point is 00:36:04 the cross hall, several hundred feet long in which are found the idol or image of the people's God sitting cross-legged with a lotus flower or lily in each hand. The cast of the face is oriental and the carving of this cavern. The idol almost resembles Buddha, though the scientists are not certain as to what religious worship it represents. Taking into consideration everything found thus far, it is possible that this worship must most resembles the ancient people of Tibet. Surrounding this idol are smaller images, some very beautiful in form,
Starting point is 00:36:35 others crooked necked in distorted shapes, symbol, symbol, symbolical. Good Lord, that word's hard to get on the first go. Symbolical, probably of good and evil. There are two large cactus with protruding arms, one on each side of the dyes on which the sun on which the God squats. All of this is carved of hard rock resembling marble. In the opposite corner of this cross hall were found tools of all descriptions made of copper.
Starting point is 00:37:00 These people undoubtedly knew the lost art of hardening this metal, which has been sought by chemicals for centuries without result. On a bench running around the workroom was some charcoal and other material probably used in the process. There's also slag and stuff similar to matte showing that these ancients smelted ores, but so far no trace of where or how this was done has been discovered nor the origin of the ore. Among the other finds are vases and urns and cups of copper and gold.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Made very artistic in design. The pottery work includes enameled wear and glazed vessels. Another passageway leads to granaries such as are found in the Oriental temples. They contain seeds of various kinds. One very large storehouse has not yet been entered as it is 12 feet high and can be reached only from above. Two copper hooks extend on the edge, which indicates that some sort of ladder was attached.
Starting point is 00:37:55 These granaries are rounded as the materials of which they are constructed. I think is a very hard cement. A gray metal is also found in the cavern, which puzzles the scientists for its identity has not been established. It resembles platinum, strewn promiscuously over the floor everywhere, what people call cat's eyes, a yellow stone of no great value. Each one is engraved with the head of the Malay type. That's what they found in the rooms.
Starting point is 00:38:19 The Malay, M-A-L-A-Y. Like a Malaysian person. I imagine that's what they mean. Yeah, it's probably something super racist, to be honest. 1909, absolutely. Probably is. So we're saying they're saying it looks Asian. It looks Tibetan.
Starting point is 00:38:35 The Buddha looks like, yeah, to like from that kind of. Are we done with this? But there's also. We're going to talk about the hieroglyphics and the crypt still. OK, are you? Intermission, we got the intermission. Intermission? Intermission.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I don't want to say what I'm going to say. It's you're not going to want to continue. Just say it. Ruin this for everyone. Has somebody gone here? All right, let me just for the record, we'll get to that. Ruin this for everyone. We're going to get to that.
Starting point is 00:39:06 The literal Smithsonian. No, no, I know, I know, I know, I know. We're going to get there. I know what you're going to say. I told you, I already know. All right, OK, I'll wait. I'll wait and let you poison people's minds. You don't think I'm going to cover with the Smithsonian?
Starting point is 00:39:24 I said in all their lies that they've given to the public the Smithsonian's lying. Why would they ever lie about this? Why are you talking about this? The only the only thing I'm confused about right now, other than how I didn't hear about this amazing story before. Right, that's how I felt is is because it's not true. It is not real.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Why are they saying it's Egyptian? When it's because it's an idiot right now, it's an idiot hupster who I like can't stress this enough. This is bullshit. This is super bullshit. Like next level bullshit. And I want everyone to know that I never heard this either. And it took one Google search to be like,
Starting point is 00:40:05 Anna, this is bullshit. I'm just saying, wherever you found this, the person who wrote the like, guys, guess what? That person's dumb as shit. That person's an idiot. They got this person's like, you know what else? I heard that actually the last American president was Grant. So technically America, it's that kind of level of its idiocy.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Idiocy newspaper. Dude, people are incorporated and became a court. That's not even the same word. It's not the same usage of the word. You dummies. Oh my God, I can't deal with it. Jesse, watch the HBO Q and non-documentary and these solutions.
Starting point is 00:40:42 I'm so I'm so bad at all. I don't like that we're in the same space. I'm not fine with us being like, if we want the same convention, they would be there too. I'd have to deal with that shit and trust me. I already get the emails. Just so you know.
Starting point is 00:40:59 Oh my God, dude, we've been in them for a couple of years now. Yeah, I lost those. Stop talking about the weird emails that I get from people. No, that was not a sign of the perspective of this job. I was actually scared. Yeah, I got too scared to like call them out on the air after a while. Let me just say from the record,
Starting point is 00:41:15 ain't nobody sending me emails. Of course they're not sending me emails. I get it. You want the key line by a guy? Alexi. You want the key line by a guy? Yeah, no, that's a whole other situation. I got to keep going, man.
Starting point is 00:41:31 There's more to story, man. I'm waiting with Bated Breath. I'm waiting with Bated Breath. Patreon.com slash Chalumna Deposit. It doesn't want you to know that the true history of this country. The Smithsonian would love us to know if the Smithsonian discovered Egyptians,
Starting point is 00:41:47 why would they? Why wouldn't they? Why would the Shadow Government hide that? Why? For what reason? Because to control us, man, feed us the information they want to know. How would this affect us?
Starting point is 00:41:57 It would change everything we know about what happened in America. The migration of humans from one continent to another would blow our mind? Dude, that's the history of the world. You're asking the right questions, Jesse. You've got to ask the government why they're hiding it and maybe we'll find out. No one would hide that.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Maybe no one would hide that. There are significant groups of people on this earth who do in fact believe that there are different archaeological histories, especially to American and South American and Middle American history where people from unexpected civilizations made their way to our country
Starting point is 00:42:37 and some stuff happened with them a little later in time than we expected. So as far as this is concerned, maybe there is something to this. We made it all the way to the Grand Canyon, brother. I'm not saying I believe this, but maybe this guy did find something. Let me be very clear.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Alex, you are correct. There is some historical research being done that proves that we for a long time assumed that Christopher Columbus was the first and then it was like, no, dude, Vikings are here first. And then, I mean, let's be real, natives are here first, but of explorers,
Starting point is 00:43:13 there were other people that, you know, there's talk of China, there's talk of all sorts. Whatever the case may be, that's fine. I'm saying this specific story is bullshit. It doesn't actually lead to Egypt in some way. Here, we're gonna keep going. You're gonna tell me that like some guy at the Egyptian School of Archaeology
Starting point is 00:43:36 somewhere is like, it was true. It's the guy, it's Odette Fair from the mummy trilogy. Next are the hieroglyphics. The rest of the magic I show up. Like, O'Connell, we need you. They found this secret movie. Oh my God, if that was the mummy four. I would love that for a mummy movie.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Oh my God, they're just in Colorado. Yeah. This is, I mean, this is gonna be the next National Treasure plot for Nicholas Cage, you know, for his next big movie. He could find this place. These are actually good movies, by the way. I love National Treasure one.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Yeah, it's so good. Why did I? I should watch it. It's like, why don't you say the Caribbean? You gotta check it out. It's good stuff. Why did I say Arizona is where the Grand Canyon is? I don't know why Colorado would be even more.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Well, they went through the Colorado River. All right, that's, I was like, why would I? Yeah, for everyone out there who's never seen a mummy movie, go watch the mummy movie. I'm gonna convince you, Jesse. There's still more to go. Tell me more. There's not, there's still a lot of way.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I'm gonna, I know the old history teacher in you is freaking out, but it's only because he hasn't learned new knowledge in so long. He's originated by higher education in this country. Yeah, college just lies to you. Okay. On all the urns or walls over doorways
Starting point is 00:44:49 and tablets of stone, which were found by the image are the mysterious hieroglyphics, the key to which the Smithsonian Institute hopes yet to discover. The engraving on the tablet probably, probably has something to do with the religion of the people. Similar hieroglyphics have been found in Southern Arizona
Starting point is 00:45:06 among the pictorial writings. Only two animals are found. One is a prehistoric type. If you're asking what animals he's talking about, he never says. Like a dinosaur? It was a dinosaur. It was a prehistoric dinosaur, brother.
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Starting point is 00:46:12 or $1,200 on a tank list. Call Any Hour Services and schedule a free estimate today. Google Any Hour Services or schedule online at AnyHourServices.com. No one helps more homeowners than Any Hour Services. The tomb or crypt in which the mummies were found is one of the largest of the chambers. The walls slanting back at an angle of about 35 degrees.
Starting point is 00:46:33 On these are tears of mummies. Each one occupying a separate hewn shelf. At the head of each is a small bench on which is found copper cups and pieces of broken swords. Some of the mummies are covered with clay and all are wrapped in a bark fabric. The urns or cups on the lower tiers are crudes while as the higher shelves are reached,
Starting point is 00:46:52 the urns are finer in design, showing a later stage of civilization. So they've been there for a while. See, they've been there for many years. It is worthy of note that all the mummies examined so far have proved to be male. No children or females being buried here. This leads to the belief that this exterior section
Starting point is 00:47:08 was the warrior's barracks. Among the discoveries, no bones of animals have been found. No skins, no clothing, no bedding. Many of the rooms are bare, but for water vessels. One room, about 40 by 700 feet, was probably the main dining hall for cooking utensils are found here. What these people lived on is a problem,
Starting point is 00:47:28 though it is presumed that they came south in the winter and farmed in the valleys, going back north in the summer. Vegetarians, just like the lizard people. Yeah, that's a good connection. I didn't even see that. Upwards. Okay, here's how many could have just went underground
Starting point is 00:47:43 into LA. Yeah, they were super. Oh my God, there's the tunnels in the Grand Canyon led them to LA. Six hours by car, no problem. You know how many people lived in this supposed colony? Upwards of 50,000 people could have lived in the caverns comfortably.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Unbelievable. One theory is that the present Indian tribes found in Arizona are descendants of the serfs or slaves of the people which inhabited the cave. Undoubtedly a good many thousands of years before the Christian era, people lived here which reached a high stage of civilization.
Starting point is 00:48:17 The chronology of human history is full of gaps. Professor Jordan is much enthused over the discoveries and believes that the find will prove of incalculable value in archeological work. One thing I have not spoken of may be of interest. There is one chamber of the passageway to which is not ventilated. And when we approach it,
Starting point is 00:48:36 a deadly, snaky smell struck us. Our light would not penetrate the gloom and until stronger ones are available, we will not know what the chamber contains. Okay, hold on. So you're saying somebody came up to this tomb or whatever it was. And was like this room with no ventilation.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Smells like snakes. A deadly, snaky smell. Smells like snakes. Let's not get in there. Yeah, what do snakes smell like? I don't know, but the next sentence is some say snakes, but other boo-hoo this idea and think it may contain a deadly gas or chemical
Starting point is 00:49:11 used by the ancients. But then they smell it. They can, I think they can just smell it on the other side of the door, on the other side of the passage. And that sounds like if it's deadly, you're probably dropping right there still. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:49:22 You know, maybe, maybe. Maybe they got sick and they died maybe a year later or something. I would explain why there's no record of that, probably. They're right, exactly. No sounds are heard, but it smells snaky just the same. That is the whole wildest quote in this whole article.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I don't know why it's so hard. The whole underground installation gives one of shaky nerves the creeps. The gloom is like a weight on one's shoulders and our flashlights and candles only make the darkness blacker. Imagination can revel in conjectures and ungodly daydreams back through the ages
Starting point is 00:49:55 that have elapsed till the mind reels dizzily in space. The last bit, Jesse, of the newspaper article, don't worry. In connection with the story, it is notable that among the Hopi Indians, the tradition is told that their ancestors once lived in an underworld in the Grand Canyon till dissension arose between the good and the bad, the people of one heart and the people of two hearts.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Macheteau, who was their chief, counseled them to leave the underworld, but there was no way out. The chief then caused a tree to grow up and pierce the roof of the underworld and then the people of one heart climbed out. They tarried by, I'm gonna butcher this name, Hasisvi, Red River, which is the Colorado
Starting point is 00:50:37 and grew grain and corn. They sent out a message to the temple of the sun asking the blessing of peace, goodwill, and reign for people of one heart. The messenger never returned, but today at the Hopi villages at sundown can be seen the old men of the tribe out on the housetops gazing toward the sun,
Starting point is 00:50:53 looking for the messenger. When he returns, their lands and ancient dwelling place will be restored to them. That is the tradition. Among the engravings of animals in the cave is seen the image of a heart over the spot where it is located. The legend was learned by W.E. Rowlands,
Starting point is 00:51:09 the artist during a year spent with the Hopi Indians. There are two theories of the origin of the Egyptians. One is that they came from Asia, another that the racial cradle was in the upper Nile region. Herein, an Egyptologist believed in the Indian origin of the Egyptians. The discoveries of the Grand Canyon may throw further light on human evolution
Starting point is 00:51:30 and prehistoric ages. And that is the entirety of the article that was in the Arizona Gazette regarding this entire supposed civilization. It does, I mean, look, it does explain if there's both Asian iconography and Egyptian iconography. It does explain why, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:48 it justifies the Pacific Ocean route, right? Because maybe the Egyptians were like, you know what, we're running low on dudes. Let's go to Asia and pick up some dudes, take them with us to the new world, the new land where our priests told me to go. You know what I mean? Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Have I convinced you, Jesse, that this is real yet? No. Is there anything that points to this being real? Is there a cave? Is there anything? There is a cave, it is called Isis Temple, the Isis Temple out in the Grand Canyon. That is an actual cave, supposedly where it was found.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Supposedly. But there's nothing there. Just heads up. There's nothing there. Just heads up. It's not. It's just a cave. I'm going to drop a heads up.
Starting point is 00:52:35 It's just a cave. There's not like a hidden part of the cave. It's just a cave. Have you been there, man? I can tell you, my dad, one of his dreams is to go to, like, see those caves. He wants to do that kind of stuff. And I have to be like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:48 He might be very surprised. There's not going to be anything there. There's nothing there. Now, the government supposedly is a single soldier guarding the entrance to this cave. That's not true. That, I think it's an M16. A single?
Starting point is 00:53:00 They would put a single one. A guy with an M16 is killing in the Grand Canyon at all times. There's no way. One man. Well, they rotate, but the government keeps one guard on the outside and keep others away. Like the two of the unknown soldiers.
Starting point is 00:53:11 One guard. What's one guard going to do? One. A single guard guards the entrance to this place. Three guys go after that guard. What's he going to do? We're going to need more now. We're blowing open the story.
Starting point is 00:53:22 This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. And then he's going to get kayakers littering the area near the cave entrance. So, Jesse did some Googling while we were doing that. One Google search. First off, first off, first off, let's talk about this article and the descriptions that this researcher gave.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Because, again, this is what year, 1909? 1909. So this guy, the way he describes things, is not the way researchers talk. This book from 1900, I'm just looking at it right now. The way he described, like this guy's talking about walls and stuff, this guy's like, it's solid side walls are relieved on the exterior
Starting point is 00:53:58 by pilasters. The cellar was elevated upon a high podium, the upper moldings of which may be seen at the rear and along the sides. But most of it is concealed with debris or soil. The ornamental details, that's how archeological people write. This guy's like,
Starting point is 00:54:15 This man is a white man from Idaho. He's just an explorer. This dude is a white man from somewhere. It just doesn't, the difference is, it's negligible. Does the book that you have mention anything about snakey? Snakey smells?
Starting point is 00:54:28 Nothing, snakey. Zero snakey. Or what that might mean. Let's get to the point, let's get to the point here. Zero snakey. On the literal Smithsonian website. The literal Smithsonian website. And this is why the world's messed up.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Cause I know I'm going to say this and math is going to be like, that's what they want you to think. Damn right. Damn right. You're going to say exactly what the Smithsonian wants the public to believe. Myth, the Smithsonian discovered
Starting point is 00:54:50 Egyptian ruins, the Grand Canyon. Fact, it didn't. Backstory, on April 5th, 1909, the Arizona Gazette ran the following headline. Explorations in Grand Canyon, mysteries of immense rich cavern, being brought to light. Jordan is enthused.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Remarkable find indicates ancient people migrated from Orient. The article includes the testimony of one GE Kinkade. Who says that he- May or may not exist. Says that he, traveling solo down the green in Colorado rivers, discovered proof of an ancient civilization possibly of Egyptian origin.
Starting point is 00:55:22 The story also asserts that a Smithsonian archeologist named Essay Jordan returned with Kinkade to investigate the site. However, the Arizona Gazette is the only newspaper that ran this story. And no records can confirm the existence of either Kinkade or Jordan. There's a reason for that.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Did the one guy guarding it kill them? He had an M16 in 1909. How's that happen? Did you even think about that part? You're right, you're right. My bad. No, it's because GE Kinkade went in there with the intent of looking for gold initially.
Starting point is 00:56:00 And that was illegal in the Grand Canyon. Oh my God. So he came up with a fake name. Was Roosevelt, right? Yes, because of Roosevelt. So he came up with a fake name to go and explore and that's why there's no record of him anywhere. Damn, checkmate, atheist.
Starting point is 00:56:12 That is, I mean, I know that no matter what I say, you will have an answer and it'll be just as dumb, but I'm letting you know. Because the truth is out there. The truth is out there, brother. If this is what you led with, if you went to like Mulder and were like, Mulder, Scully, the truth is out there, there's a secret Egyptian base in the Grand Canyon,
Starting point is 00:56:36 I would be like, all right, hang it up, Scully. It's time to, it's time to hang it up. We were wrong. We were so wrong. I just want our listeners to question everything, right? Nothing is, nothing is true except for your reality, right? So whatever you perceive as truth is true. No, we all have to agree on truths.
Starting point is 00:56:50 We all have to agree on what's real because then society breaks down and then who knows what I know. I'm not living this with you. I see your smile. They don't see your smile. They don't see your bullshit smile. They don't see that.
Starting point is 00:57:04 That is gonna be articles like, Jesse, I just want to send you this article about how people travel all over the world all the time. I'm gonna get all these damn things about like, do you know that people from Africa were in South America? I'm gonna get that stuff. I'm gonna be like, that's not the point
Starting point is 00:57:19 of the story you're telling. The story you're telling is nonsense. A dude made it up. He made it up. Or the true history of the United States will forever be hidden in a single soldier who will guard it for all eternity. Why would it matter if they hid it?
Starting point is 00:57:33 I'm from LA, you know, anything is possible, you know? Lizard people, yeah. Dude, that'd be a cool movie though. It's like they, that would be a good Nick Cage, like third, third, they go down there and there's a guard and he's like, we got to get past this guard. We got to see what's inside.
Starting point is 00:57:49 His M16 uses cat's eye bullets. It's a worthless battle, but they had a homing bullet when they're put inside an M16, the holy weapon. When the M16 gets bled, luckily I've been working on an M17. That would be his sidekick. He'd be like, luckily, I've been working on an M17. And he's like, oh, guy from Elyse.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Well, that's all I brought for today, so that was all I could do. All right, let me bring up my thing, because I got some stuff for back in the day. That went way longer than I expected it to, so. Yeah, no, me too. Back like 10 years ago. All right, I don't even know if you guys have talked
Starting point is 00:58:34 about this, because I'm not gonna lie, I haven't listened to like anything. So, a true fan hanging out. At least freaking dodge or listen to if you have a sword. Oh yeah, I'm not, I just go in, winging it. So, I don't know, have you guys talked, because you're like called to Chaluminati.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Have you talked about the Illuminati? Not yet. No, like obviously in broad strokes on episodes where they're relevant, but never like a full episode on the Illuminati. Illuminati, I feel like will be a multi-part deep dive when we get to it. Yeah, I did Bohemian Grove recently,
Starting point is 00:59:03 which is like very similar to the Illuminati. Oh yeah, because like years ago, like I'm talking like 10, 11 years ago, I got really into like. I got to learn that 10 years ago, you were offered a membership to the Illuminati. And I turned it down and said, I will not. No, I got really into the Illuminati conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 00:59:21 So, I like really looked into it, and I was just curious about your opinions on it, because to me, I don't think it's like crazy. Like, I think it can be crazy. Like they're like, they're doing crazy shit. But to me, it's like a bunch of powerful people getting together to have more power. That's, yeah, that I fully believe.
Starting point is 00:59:41 If it exists that it's like people with immense amount of the real people with real wealth, the billionaires names who you don't know, who hide in the backgrounds, who are just rich and influence politics via money. That would be who comes together in a meeting of an Illuminati. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:59:55 We already know, right? We already know rich people hang out together from all over the world in like private things. They got like the secret societies and shit, like the skull and bones and freemasons and everything. Yeah, we know those things are real, right? We know that like backdoor deals are made all the time. We have evidence of specific ones,
Starting point is 01:00:16 even the one that we were talking about, Bohemian Grove, right? They have, they can directly trace the development of the atomic bomb to the Bohemian Grove, like the scientists and the people that needed to pay for it met there and like figured it out, you know what I mean? Like, so maybe, like, I mean,
Starting point is 01:00:34 I don't know exactly what the like, the, you know, the unifying theory of Illuminati is, but like the idea that above that Bohemian Grove, where the presidents go and world leaders from all over the world go, that maybe even higher than that, there's like an even richer one that makes even bigger decisions, not that crazy.
Starting point is 01:00:55 That's what I was thinking. That's, I was like, yeah, I don't think it's that crazy. What does Jesse think? Do you think it's crazy? I don't have any opinion. I'm trying to get in. You wanted to be Illuminati. Yeah, I want to be Illuminati.
Starting point is 01:01:09 We could turn the Illuminati into Illuminati propaganda for the right one. Yeah, I mean, look, I already said, I believe in aliens for $10,000, so like, sign me up. I'm speaking of money. Did you ever see the like thing where you fold the bills and they look like the towers burning or whatever? The Twin Towers?
Starting point is 01:01:25 Yes, I have seen that, yeah. That shit's crazy. Sounds like they made this up, but then I looked at it, I was like, oh my God, it's this. It is. It's real. All right, so besides that nonsense, what are you trying to tell us about the Illuminati?
Starting point is 01:01:40 No, no, no, we're not getting off track. What were you going to say about the Illuminati? That's what I was saying. It's real. It's got to have like some sort of realism behind it. Oh, you're asking us if we think it's real. Yeah, I mean like. I think we know the Illuminati by another name.
Starting point is 01:01:58 That's what I think. I think that it could be the Bohemian Grove is a good example of a possible group that's the Illuminati. Some people say the Masons have some connection to the Illuminati, right? Even like Scientology operates on a very scary level at a lot of, you know, in a lot of ways, you know, a lot of rich people involved
Starting point is 01:02:22 and lots of money going around that is. Say it all goes back to money. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know, I think that's, I think that's, I think the Illuminati is not so much a conspiracy theory as it is like a scary way of looking at something that's true. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 01:02:38 I think there's definitely something out there that if not called the Illuminati operates similarly to how we would imagine an Illuminati operating. I mean, even like they call me. Look at all like. What are you going to do? What is your pitch to the Illuminati? How, what is your sales pitch to induct you
Starting point is 01:02:52 into the Illuminati? I won't say nothing. You want to be like the little finger of the Illuminati? You want to be like. No, no, I don't want to like, I don't want to get like, I don't want to be involved in your weird murders or like any of that shit like,
Starting point is 01:03:02 but call me for an orgy. Let me know. Like it gets the other way, we're all like hanging out and you're all like. Just join the fucking Raleons, dude. Just call them, just join the Raleons. That's what they do. I have to believe in something there.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Those aliens look like prints. Come on, that's how to tell. No, no, no. All I'm saying is I'd be fine being a part of the, I wouldn't say nothing. I would, you know, do whatever they told me. If it meant I had to kill Crendor, you know, it's a thing I have to do for the Illuminati.
Starting point is 01:03:30 Right? Illuminati, I'll fight him back. Don't worry. Oh, no. Illuminati, whoever lives gets the host seat. Yeah, we joined together. Illuminati, the two of us joined together. Think about what we can accomplish.
Starting point is 01:03:43 What if all that's already is in the Illuminati? I know that's not true. You guys, you'd be too cool to hang out with us. You'd be like, I got too much to do. That seems really similar to my actual schedule though. Like I'm very hard to pin down. I don't, I don't think to Illuminati, to Illuminati, I don't think Illuminati does.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Illuminati, I don't think they allow for walks on the beach to take Pokemon snap photos. Look, here's the thing, that's chill as hell. But, okay. That's why Chilluminati would allow, but not Illuminati. We should start a actual Chilluminati. We should get backing from some sort of wealthy financier. We should have houses all over the world
Starting point is 01:04:27 where chill-ass people can come and do chill-ass things. And we run the world in a way where we just, we just turn the temperature down a little bit. You know what I mean? Can I ask a question? Just gonna put this out there. Does anyone wanna buy our brand for their pot shop, for their smoke shop?
Starting point is 01:04:45 You mean like you wanna license the Chilluminati as like a, as like a weed? Chilluminati brand, think about it, in every state in America. I do a lot of work for like venture capitalists, funding weed companies at Freelance already. I could probably make this happen. Let, what if that was the case?
Starting point is 01:05:03 And you were like welcome to Chilluminati, right? Think about it. And it'd be like a chill, you know, it'd be like a chill coffee shop. It wouldn't be like a chill vibe. That guy who was a financier, who offered to run our own convention that we met that one time, Alex, at the restaurant.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Oh my God, dude. Have I told that story before? No, not on the show. I wish I could remember who it was. I have it written in my phone somewhere. This guy approached me in a mall and I told him that I was like, see, Cain, was the same.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Dude, it was like, it was like, I'm a race, I'm like a, I own like this big company and I'm like, I own like several racing teams and I'm doing like an e-sports thing and I wanna get you guys involved at the highest level. Give me a call, let's see what's up. And I looked him up and he had like a book that he'd written and like not much else,
Starting point is 01:05:49 but like there was a picture of him in a race car and he was there with like his kid and like his kid's friend. Like it was crazy. Like it was a wild interaction that we had. You know how it is. People just, crazy people come talk to me all the time. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 01:06:03 I don't know why I'm that guy. I'm coming into P.F. Chang's, we had lunch. It was the popcorn. I was at a P.F. Chang's in Indianapolis. Like what? Yes. Man in the mall pulled us over and he's like, all right, what are you guys doing here?
Starting point is 01:06:14 I talked to him for like 30 minutes. It was, it was, yeah, it was crazy. Pitching, his basically pitching how he was gonna do his own convention and getting Alex involved in like the ground level. I was like, I was like, you would attract crazy people though. Do I?
Starting point is 01:06:27 I think so, yeah. I just have the vibe. I guess I, I guess I can do. You don't look crazy, but you just got the vibe of like you, you could listen to crazy people and I think it's true cause you seem to enjoy listening. I'm pretty good at it.
Starting point is 01:06:40 Yeah. It's also, the problem is it also makes like drunk people come talk to me at bars, which is like not tight. Like, or like all of a sudden I'll look to my right and like a drunk guy will be sitting at my table in a restaurant, which I, you know, I'm not that into, but you know, you got lots of money and big ideas. I'm your guy.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Come talk to me. I'll make your dreams come true. Go talk to Alex. My thing is I just don't trust anyone. So I never talked to anybody. I remember at the mall one time it was like Christmas time. There was this tall guy and a short guy and he was like, he like looked at me.
Starting point is 01:07:08 He's like, are you spiritual? And I was like, just kept walking. I was like, instantaneously. I'm like, this guy's trying to like abduct someone. No doubt. I bought, I bought weed off of a homeless guy on a bridge in Portland in the rain. And it had to lint in it.
Starting point is 01:07:22 What the shit? It had to lint in it. Yeah. You told us this story at like a dinner, won't be late, I think. You smoked it. I smoked it. You wouldn't get lint.
Starting point is 01:07:31 I kept it for like months because I didn't want to smoke it. And then I finally smoked it and it was terrible. You wouldn't get, you wouldn't get lint if you went to a Chiluminati. Chiluminati brand. True. Do it.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Let's do it. Chiluminati branded stores, weed, whatever you can do. I'm putting out the call. Look, I'm very literate in this world. If you guys need, if you want, I know how to do this. I can make this happen.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Well, that's it for us here on this episode. We gotta go to a Chilmini. And before I get emailed. Thanks for listening everybody. We'll see y'all later. Bye. Yeah, I don't think that's it. No, it's over.
Starting point is 01:08:06 It's over. He's gone. That's fine. I'm still recording. Listen, I don't actually think they're Egyptian colony. Don't send me emails. I've gotten so many emails. Send them to me.
Starting point is 01:08:16 Send them to me. Fasianiea at gmail.com. Please, please, please, please, please. I want to hear, I want to hear from you. Please let me know. I'm ready to believe you. I mean, if you got evidence, I'm down. You got pictures of something like I'm into it.
Starting point is 01:08:28 If you say you visited it, tell me your story. Oh, God, don't say that. Someone's going to like send you a picture of like their house. They're like, this is in the green. Oh, my God, my own house. Oh, God, that'd be the word. All right, we got to go. We got to go knock out to Luminati.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Thank you so much, Grandor, for joining us. I hope you enjoyed the story. Yeah, I had a good time. Anytime I can just hear some crazy shit. Sounds good to me. You'd love. I think you should come on the show again. I'll do that episode together for you.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Is there anything you want to pimp out to people, you know, the type of people that listen to our show? You think maybe something? I mean, if anything, just listen to Cox and Cren d'Or. There you go. You already listened to Jesse all the time. Listen to our show. If we don't talk about conspiracies, but we just ramble about dumb shit.
Starting point is 01:09:13 There you go. Yeah, you guys go through Florida, Florida, Florida man articles and stuff. It's a wild time over at Cox and Cren d'Or. So go check that out. It's it's a great show. It's been going on for, like you said, eight years. It's almost episode 300. It's just it's a parody of a morning show.
Starting point is 01:09:27 So we just ramble a bit and then we do, like traffic, weather, sports, and then our big news story. So we just kind of make fun of it. But now it's just what we do. Hell, yeah. Well, thank you very much, man. I'd love to have you on again, too. We always plenty of like insane shit to cover.
Starting point is 01:09:43 But if you guys want more Cren d'Or, don't worry. He'll be in the chill mini as well. So we'll be over there. Thanks so much. I'll play it. I'll play it YouTube.com slash Cox and Cren d'Or podcast. All one word. There you go.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Patreon.com slash Luminati pod. Give it a shot. Give it a shot. Look it up. See what's good. Good bye. All right. Goodbye, everybody. Well, anyway, me and my wife were sitting outside indulging on our porch one night enjoying ourselves. I needed to go to the bathroom.
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