Chilluminati Podcast - Midweek Mini: Did We Discover an AI Man??

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

Did the boys discover a "reporter" that's just AI? All you lovely people at Patreon! HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Heroforge - http://www.heroforge.com Promocode: Chill Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Show art by - https://twitter.com/JetpackBraggin http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro

Hi, I'm Silman Faruqi, personal finance reporter at the Globe and Mail. Housing costs are higher than ever. That's why I write stories that help renters and homeowners make smarter money decisions. If that's journalism you value, head to globeandmail.com slash subscribe. Hello, everybody. Hey, everyone. I learned today that none of us will be as good of a voice actor as Mark Mear is. Mark Mear?

There was no doubt of that. No one thought that was the case. You know what? Significant. I'm not going to be as good of an actor. as Tom Hanks you know I mean yeah

I don't think I'm gonna be I don't think I'm gonna get there man all right but I will be as attractive as Timothy shallame a shalame a shalame a timidatee

a chileme he ends the contest and he wins the contest because he looks so much like chileme he's so chalemesque I'm gonna say Jesse's for last

because he has teased me prior that his I'm so excited I actually really like my Alex, why don't you start us off? Okay, here's what I've got for you from coast to coast. I hope I didn't... Oh, I love that.

Oh, I didn't joke anybody's thunder. But the bit of this is I'm going to read the... I'm going to give you a little bit of set up. I'm going to read the title of the article, and then we're just going to go off to the races. But I'm going to tell you something. I'm going to read every word of this article. Because the thing that's crazy about this article to me

is number one, the subject matter is hilarious. It's just a hilarious situation. But second of all, every sentence of this article is like written in such a bizarre way that there is like something surprising, strange and funny in each sentence. So I'm going to read each sentence at a time. Okay. This article is called creepy clown arrested for menacing shoppers at Mexican mall. Police in Mexico pulled off something of a rare feat when they caught a creepy clown who had been frightening people at a shepherding. shopping center.

So already, they've pulled off a rare feat. According to a local media report, the odd bust occurred last Wednesday in the city of Uman when cops received word of a weird individual causing a commotion. Wait, so the implication in line one is there are many clowns. Yeah. But they finally caught one. Yeah. It's like seeing a user.

unicorn yeah great okay yeah because you know what in corner fest there was the dude in the white hoodie i don't know what that i don't know if that guy counts as a clown there's also been a lot of just like creepy clown like people purposely dressing up as creepy clown with a knife or something and standing on a road that happens yeah that feels it feels like it feels like a type of thing to go out and do and be weird right um if you're weird it's definitely a weird thing to do yeah so weird individual causing a commotion. Specifically, an unsettling

stranger clad in a clown mask was lurking around a shopping center and scaring patrons by popping out from behind pillars and other hiding places. Just, I don't know. There's something about the way this article is written.

Was it being filmed? Was this like, was this like a goof or just a guy doing it? Just, you know what? Bring it back. The classics. No cameras.

Just him. It's just for him. Yeah. Just for him. He's clowning. I kind of respect it. When police arrived on the scene, they caught sight of the clown stationed near a clock tower in anticipation of frightening another unsuspecting shopper.

Was this written by an AI? I don't know. It may have been. It has a byline. It has a byline. Tim Binnel. I'm so sorry. However, the harlequin also saw them,

which led to the cops having to chase down. the troublemaker as he attempted to flee on foot. This feels very AI. To their credit, unlike in most instances wherein creepy clowns cause mischief and then deftly managed to avoid being caught, the police- What do you mean by that? How is that a thing? Why does this article suppose that there is a just wave of clown crime?

and they just get away with it. Like the Joker, they just constantly escape. You'd never know because they got away with it. Right. So they're just, you can just say stuff like this. To their credit, unlike in most instances

wherein creepy clowns cause mischief and then deftly managed to avoid being caught, the police in Uman got their hands on the harlequin who was arrested for the misadventure at the shopping center. It's just something about the way it's written. This is a scream's AI article. while it is uncertain this is last sentence

while it is uncertain what will become of the young man taken into custody considering how quickly he was captured he undoubtedly could use another spell

in creepy clown school what the fuck end of article I can't I'm gonna read that last one one more time while it is uncertain what will be

I gotta take it again. While it is uncertain what will become of the young man take it into custody, considering how quickly he was captured, he undoubtedly could use another spell in creepy clown school.

Another spell I get what he's saying. I understand it. It's written in a way that most people don't talk. Nobody talks like that. At worst, this is AI at best. This is a dude who looked up a thesaurus of like, well, I got to come up with other words for clown. At the last sentence.

Because I've been saying clown like 15 times. At the last sentence, it almost sounds like it's written from the point of you of a clown. Of the clown. Who gets away all the time and is looking down on this clown. Like this fool thought he could be a clown and get away with it. Yeah. While it is uncertain what will become the young man taken into custody, considering how quickly he was captured, he undoubtedly could use another spell and creepy clown.

school okay the only thing missing is is at the end he goes hon honk and then gets in a small car and drive like crispin glover in downtown los angeles i'm looking up his other articles now i'm so interested we could have just discovered one of the many ai authors that exists okay just okay just for a minute i'm going to just send you his what is tim benno i am so sorry just just Like, man Are you serious? Is that a real man? Yeah.

Is that how he dresses for real? Is that a real person? I thought that you were saying that this was a news article posted on coast to coast. But this is no, no, but I mean like Tim is the coast to coast AM website. That's coast to coast, yeah. News editor. so Tim posted this did he write the article

uh yeah that's his that's his byline then one then one hundred percent that he that's that's AI dude you want to know something also you want to know something also crazy

like the story as he tells it is this guy was bothering people at the mall and they caught him at a clock tower and something about he's popping out of hiding places and shit like that right and they don't know what happened to him afterwards I just clicked on the Yucatan Times they know the day they know what happened

he was behind a clock tower scaring pedestrians and people were reporting that he was coming into their businesses wearing a mask and trying to steal shit so that's why the cops came there's nothing about other clowns getting away there's nothing about lots of clowns he fled on foot and then they caught him a couple blocks later

and the subject was interrogated, took an aggressive attitude, and then they transferred him to Municipal Command for resisting arrest. So we know everything that happened. There's only one clown, and he's really just a guy in a clown mask trying to steal shit and scare the shit out of people.

Why did you write that article like that, Tim? What the hell? This is so weird. Tim? What happened, man? And why is your profile pick? If you're writing, if you're writing for coast to coast, and you're not a news site,

then selling it as like, You know, who knows is the point, I think. I just am so mind-blown by this man's profile pick. I'm just, he looks like he's in like the smooth criminal music video in his profile pick, except he's like in his mom's living room. Boom, boom, ba-boom-boom. I can't find any, I only could find one other article written by him. All other articles listed by him just linked to different news sites that are not coast-to-coast-a-am.

And the only one, the other one he wrote was accused killer credits, It's diabolical goblin with helping him evade capture. It's only two paragraphs. Diabolical goblin. After being arrested for allegedly killing two people last year, a Colombian man surprised police when he explained that he managed to evade capture for months thanks to the help of a diabolical goblin. According to a local media report,

the weird case came to light this week when authorities apprehended Kevin Orlando Arias Ferreiro, who was wanted for the murder of two men in an incident that occurred back in April. The month's long search for the suspect culminated in a wild chase wherein he hit a police officer with his motorcycle before crashing and being taken into custody, which is when cops noticed a curious doll in his possession. Upon being questioned about the peculiar figurine, Ferreiro coolly replied, he's the diabolical goblin who protected me. The accused killer went on to explain that he prayed to a sinister spirit that inhabits the doll every morning at 4 a.m., which is why it had taken authorities months to catch him. As for why he wound behind bars this week, Ferraro lamented that he failed to do the ritual on that particular morning, leading to the goblin rescinding its protection and causing him to be captured. The young man has been charged with two murder counts, as well as a litany of other crimes associated with his attempted getaway. The whereabouts of the dollar are unknown, though cops may wish to keep it under lock and key lest it helps facilitate any further trouble.

All right, so real quick, that article was written by a human. That was also by Tim Benal, supposedly. so clearly written as a different yes the one that alex read is insane there's no way a person wrote that yeah but he's he's been doing a podcast longer than us about the paranormal that also uses like a similar like yeah pyramid i pyramid situation i have profit it's not a uncommon symbol in show that are themed after secret societies but i'm so this goes back Or a decade. This guy has been around town.

I mean, I'm impressed. I believe, like, this isn't a, I'm not attacking him as a newsman or a podcast. I'm just saying, like, it's weird that out of all these, the one article that we started with is the one that, like, he seems to, I feel like maybe, maybe that was an AI, like. He seems like he's legit. Like, he has like a lot. Like this is for since 2012, 2013, like this show goes back, back, back. Like, I'm sure this guy knows what he's doing, but I'm, I'm wondering what the story.

Maybe it's a bit. Maybe it's like a little bit that he does these silly. Maybe he reads him on his show. And he's like, look how weird these articles are. I literally, there's no harm. I don't mean this in a mean way. I popped open an episode, just kind of wanted to hear it. And it sounds like a man is talking into a tin can.

It's got the worst audio quality I've ever heard in my life. It's terrible. That part is that a recent episode? Uh, this is, it's hard for us to say anything. Our first couple episodes are rough. Yeah, this was the end of January. This was January 29th episode. Yeah, but that's not, I'm not, I'm saying this episode, this show goes back.

I'm 15 years back. That's the podcast? Yeah, we're still. That's weird because he's only a 67 episode. So that's not, that's not true. There's, there's, there's only 67 like Spotify episodes. If you know, if you know what I'm saying. Got, got you.

I'm, I'm almost back 20 years right now. I'm, I swear to. God, I'm literally still scrolling. These episodes are two hours long each, an hour and a half long each. They all have guests. How do you maintain such a great hat jacket combo for that long? I don't know. He's got, he's got guests.

It's still going back. I'm in 2008, man. I'm in. He's a whole topic we need to do now for the fucking show. Real? I'm still going back. I feel like I just discovered like a, like a rabbit. Oh, I don't, this is insane.

I'm in 2007. That's like the. subreddits. We discovered we're still actually going on in a different subreddit. Has this guy been making this podcast since I was in high school? Holy shit. There's no way. How old is this dude? He literally has. He literally has. He looks as old as we are in the picture. Yeah, I don't know way. No, he literally has. Are you looking up the right guy? Definitely. It's just the same show. I'm scrolling back. I'm in 2005. I'm 20 years back. I'm still going back. I know.

I just passed the Rendleship Forest episode. no no the first episode the first episode is from 2005 dude this man is in podcasting for 20 years about the same shit boys we never have to quit this show we can do this for 20 years easily that was the weirdest thing that was the weirdest so cool that was one of the weirdest organic discoveries I've ever made besides that time when we were doing the roller coaster bit. Do you remember that? I was doing this game show bit about the roller coasters

or whether they were roller coasters or riftids and then it started to be that like every single roller coaster had the same rating and there was like weird reviews. Do you remember that? Yeah, vaguely remember that a couple years ago now though. Yeah, I was Jesse, why don't you go ahead and blow our fucking mindset? Oh, well I will

then. What the fuck just? You'll wrap it. That was crazy. So, I feel weird. Well, don't get into conspiracies because this is my topic. Next time someone tells you the world's flat or the moon landing was fake or climate change isn't real or whatever, consider this English study that was just released. Researchers from Staffordshire University and the University of Birmingham have found that conspiracy theories aren't just because of misinformation or people being lied to or being confused or whatever. published in the Journal of Social Issues, and I will send you this link.

The Journal of Social Issues, I love that. Boop. Published in the Journal of Social Issues, it appears that spite, yes, spite and feeling threatened or disadvantaged, might in fact be the main cause. Yes. Oh, I would believe that 100 per thousand percent. It's double down. spiteful psychological motives tend to emerge when people feel at a competitive disadvantage. Often when we feel uncertain, threatened, or undervalued, explains lead researcher David Gordon. Spite is the desire to level the playing field by trying to knock someone else down because it feels like there is no other choice.

Conspiracy theories can serve as a way for individuals to satisfy this desire through rejecting expert opinion and scientific consensus. So when you see someone believe something that according to all possible forms of reality is false, it's not being done because they did their research and they believe it. It's being done because they don't care if it's real or not. Yeah. No, because they have been convinced in people, and say they, but people have been convinced that these people who are scientists, whatever,

almost are looking down on them as opposed to being there to, help them. And that's part of the property. And it's part of what they get fed. We will actually get to that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's all about looking, having these, people who are just intelligent as they, they're looking down on you. It's all a scam. They're just there to squeeze you for every penny. When in reality, they're being, they're there to, they're doing science. Yeah. It's like, it's like getting mad at your ex-wife. Except your ex-wife is reality. And people will always be able to cherry pick an example that holds to their truth because nothing is uniform. Humanity isn't perfect. There will always be a bad

scientist or a bad researcher always. That's why you look at the broad majority of multiple research, researchers before you go come to a conclusion. But again, but if you're, if you truly believe these people are looking down on you, then of course you're going to be mad and be like, fuck these guys. I'm just as good as anyone else. And it's crazy because a lot of it is done harmfully to themselves. It's kind of like when you hold a grudge.

Always at their own expense. Yeah, it's like when you hold a grudge, you're angry at someone. It's like the only person you're hurting is you. The other person does not care at all. And it's kind of the vibe here is it's a lot of self-harm by falling into this mindset. And really it's about changing that competitive balance between them and others, as I was saying. The study had a thousand participants over three studies that they had done, or three trials, basically. The first study showed that when it comes to conspiracy thinking, spite, and the idea of feeling threatened by other groups,

powerlessness and discomfort from uncertainty are the big noticeable factors. So they're like, all right, let's run with that. They then ran a 405 person UK resident study and confirmed that when uncertainty is the main factor spite accounted for

the substantial portion of the effect. Leave. Yeah. Yep. Suggestion the suggestion of uncertainty was that it was a strong trigger for spiteful reactions. We're not suggesting that people

consciously choose to be spiteful when believing or spreading conspiracy theories, explains co-author Megan Bernie from the University of Birmingham. Instead, our findings suggest that feelings of disadvantage can provoke a common psychological spiteful response, one that makes individuals more receptive to believing conspiracy theories. The big takeaway from the study is that when people lack knowledge, like Mathis was saying, they feel disadvantaged because they don't understand a complex thing, rather than accept that they don't know anything.

and are at that disadvantage, some reject scientific consensus and turn to special inside information that the smart people don't have. This special knowledge creates the sense of a power balance. Yes. Yep. It's pretty amazing to me

how intuitive this study feels to me as somebody who argues with people like this a lot. Sure. Yes. Yeah. This is basically like my like Will Graham profile of this type of person confirmed. It feels vindicating to the energy spent trying to convince these people almost.

Yeah, it was without naming names, obviously, before the elections, right before them was having a conversation with somebody that I know personally, who is, you know, extremely right wing. And as we were discussing, you know, the pros and cons of why I was voting this way or why. why he was voting that way. Anytime, and I do mean anytime I asked him and I gave, I would say things like, give me a policy then that Trump is proposed that you are excited for that's going to help you. Or give me a policy that he did last time that was beneficial to you. And they always point to the taxes, which they, which always forget that over the course of eight years, anyone under the like second or third percentile, their taxes went up over eight years, even if they were cut initially.

And then the one that was, the tax thing that was just passed, it's like anyone who makes less than $370,000 taxes are going up. But it's like once you bring that up and once you bring up specifics, it immediately devolved into laughing, saying some offensive-ass shit about Kamala, and then brushing it off and saying, I don't have the time to research. Even though he's mentioned multiple podcasts that he was listening to, and I'm like, instead of listening to those, I mean, that's just him being polite in that I disagree with you and what you're saying is wrong and I'm not going to ever. His mindset is that is that these people

are just better than. It doesn't matter the facts anymore because it's all about spitting on the people he perceives to be spitting on him. And to be clear, it's not just right wing people. Like for example, where I live, the dominant one at this point. No, I mean, like for example, where I live in Los Angeles there's a lot of people that are psyched that RFK is the guy right now because they they don't believe in vaccines and you'd be surprised you'd be surprised how non partisan that issue is yeah it's not because measles is breaking out in Texas right now the first deaths from measles in in decades like crazy yeah rfk's like saw a picture or something because he's now like uh take the fucking vaccine you should definitely get

vaccinated yeah also promoting like weird other shit at the same time. The last thing here from this article is great. It says previous research identified three main motivations behind conspiracy beliefs, understanding the world, feeling secure, and maintaining a positive self-image. The new study suggests Spike unifies these, showing that they are all manifestations of a common response to feeling disadvantaged. This could be addressed through better science communication and media literacy.

I don't know if that's true. That's not going to know. have tried and it just gets ignored. Even on this show, when we talk about, like, some of the weird things happening, especially when we're talking about the drones. Yeah. We had lack of information, lack of people, authority figures telling us stuff, and that, it becomes very easy to be like, you could hear when people talk about the drones,

despite of like, how dare you not tell us anything? What are you hiding? Especially because different parts of the government from state to federal, we're saying different things and it was just like it makes you mad and it makes you like that's the same i can understand being someone who believes one way and you go to to look at something or you see something and then suddenly it's immediately contradicted by something else and you're right it has to be a grand consensus of of everything but if you're that person who looks up one thing and then he sees someone else say something and then you're like well i don't know who believe and you stop yep that's a

problem and that's i think and that's where we need to address in society, because a lot of times people are like, I watched your news show, and then I turned on my new show, and it says something completely different. And I don't know who to believe, so I choose not to believe anyone. And it's like, what? That's a dumb, that's a dumb choice. That's a dumb conclusion to draw. Yes, it's purposely saying I want to be ill-informed. I'd rather be stupid and uninvolved. Let me just say, I'm like, I've been playing a ton of Crusader kingdom, guys, sorry, kingdom come deliverance to. And it is peasant brain. mentality is all it is. And I mean that sincerely. This idea that they're both wrong. So the rich

one is right because he's rich, therefore he must be smart. Let him do it. I like it. I don't want to think about it. They are like, that is the thought process. I don't have to think. Let them smart man think. He's smart because he rich. That's what they thought about kings. That kings and nobles because God determined they were better because the Bible said so. Or they had more money. Therefore, they must deserve to be barren or whatever it's all the same logic applied to modern day instead of barons and we have CEOs you know like it's just it's different it's new terminology for old concepts being read people who'd rather be ruled because they don't understand what causes their hardships yeah yeah because if you have to but because having to look at

what causes the hardships requires work and time and you talk yourself into it if you don't if you can't handle the hardships in your life and you're like someone else is causing it but I can't fix it. I need someone to come and do it for me. All of these are like taking the onus off of you. All of these are removed. Like it's, it's that weird,

it's the weird space conspiracy that he's operated. Where it's like, it's above me. It's aliens or it's ghosts or it's demons or it's the government or to the deep state. Like it's always beyond your control. And so the only person to come in and stop all that is got to be like the king. Yeah. Yeah.

and thus monarchies and dictatorship or a superhero or you know like one of those like he needs someone to come or or Jesus coming back like that's one of the big ones is it's like rather than treat each other good we can all be assholes and hope Jesus comes back and stops it yeah they're trying to bring the rapture on purpose so that they can all go to their little fucking heaven compartments and live while that's gonna be like

if I was Jesus I'd be like you do this on purpose guys Jesus wouldn't be allowed into the US he showed up now and he showed up at our borders they would be like wrong skin color dude Yeah, big beard would not let it in. No, no, Bueno for Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior. Middle Eastern Jewish man. Yeah, sorry, man.

They have the idea of Michelangelo's twink that he drew as Jesus as like the real Jesus. Guys, empathy is no longer Christian. I know. All right. Anyway, don't be a peasant, you idiots. Yeah, don't be peasant-brained. It's that simple. Think for yourself.

You can buy yourself a PlayStation and even make the games if you work hard. Think about it. Yeah, you could. Or go play kingdom from deliverance and to prepare for. the future. Become a chef. Vote blue. Thank you.

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