Chilluminati Podcast - Midweek Mini: Jesse and Mike Break the Universe

Episode Date: March 11, 2026

This Minisode was originally uploaded with  Episode 325: It Writes Itself - some of the topics discussed might be outdated. Subscribe to our Patreon to listen and watch the Minisodes as they release every week! http://patreon.com/CHILLUMINATIPODMike Martin - http://www.youtube.com/@themoleculemindset Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - https://www.youtube.com/@StarWarsOldCanonBookClub/Editor: DeanCutty Producer: Hilde @ https://bsky.app/profile/heksen.bsky.social Show Art: Studio Melectro @ http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro Logo Design: Shawn JPB @ https://twitter.com/JetpackBragginLINKSALEX: https://journalnews.com.ph/bizarre-cases-of-fictional-characters-who-stepped-off-the-page-into-reality MATHAS: https://phys.org/news/2025-11-quantum-teleportation-photons-distant-sources.html JESSE: https://www.abovethenormnews.com/2025/11/14/the-universe-is-moving-wrong-and-nobody-knows-why/ 

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I was off. Well, Jesse's been turned into a velociraptor after. I've been doing a bit because I figure you guys make the voice noises. do the creepy stuff with my face. And so people will want to tune in to watch. Yeah. That's awesome.

Guys, Patreon.com. If you're not watching this on Patreon already, you better get over here. Yeah, you better do it. This shit's, there's so much crazy stuff happening.

Crazy. I feel like I'm in a jackass video. Uh, how about Alex, you start us for today because I know what I'm going to talk about. And I also know what Jesse's going to talk about. So, and they're kind of in the same realm of,

uh, of science. Oh, well, mine is definitely not in the realm of science. I have just done an episode, if you are listening to this on Patreon, about fictional characters becoming real. Yes. And I had a bunch of-

What would you not want to talk about real characters becoming fiction? What was that? What would you title the episode if you were to title that episode? It writes itself. Okay. Fantastic. Yeah. And-

It's a good title. That's a solid title. It's pretty solid. I actually said it the other day and then I had to, like, buy. Hilda to be like, what the fuck did I say? That was like perfect. Okay. I had extra Tulpa stories that I thought were great,

but just I couldn't fit into the story. And I thought they were worth telling because they're neat. But basically all the articles out there are basically the same. Anything that you read about this topic is going to have the same few stories. Alan Moore. The Tulipa topic? Yeah. Like Alan Moore,

The shadow. Even Alan Moore, when he was talking about his own experience, referenced the shadow in his own story. But in this one article that I found on journal news.com. P.H. From what? Here is this from 2021?

Yeah, 2012 by People's Tonight, Brett Swencer. Thank you so much for this article. But he has these two other stories that he pulled from like some websites that I've never seen before. And so I wanted to get into the first one, supposedly comes from a website called Stranger Dimensions. Found the website. Couldn't find this story, but it's about a guy whose wife is a published author and that she has him proofread her manuscripts all the time. So he's done it a bunch of times, but this one time something

different happened. Here's the quote from the guy. I started reading the book about the third week of September. When I read any book, I create a picture in my mind of what a character looks like. I did this with an adult character by the name of Marie, who is mentioned quite often throughout the book. So I'm a slow reader. It takes me quite a while to get through any book I read. Sometimes I have to reread something I just read because my attention may have drifted from the book to something else. So I take my time and read carefully. My wife started to fuss a bit asking me if I didn't like the story. I honestly was enjoying the book and I kept telling her that it just takes me longer than the average reader to finish her book.

So Saturday evening, September 28th, I'm home alone, washing some dishes in the sink. The sun is setting, so it's still light out. I hear a banging sound coming from the backyard. I recognize the sound as being the shed door. I walk into the living room to look out a window and see who's there. When I see this woman standing there, just swinging the shed door to the closed position and reopening it again consistently, making the banging sound. The shed sits about 40 yards directly behind the house slash window I'm looking out.

dark hair, baggy, off white gown, looking as if into the neighbor's yard just slamming the door. My first thought is, who is this woman in my yard? Why is she doing that? I push off the window and head for the backyard. The noise stops before I get to the door that leads to the back porch. I didn't look up towards a shed until I was out of the porch on the patio, and she is not there. My shed door is open, and I figure she is now in the shed or behind it. I first walk around the shed before opening the door wide enough to look in.

Nothing. She is gone quicker than anyone could physically remove themselves from sight without climbing fences and such. It wasn't until later that night did I make a connection. The woman in my yard very much matched the description of the character in my wife's book that I was currently reading, the hair, the outfit as I pictured it. Granted, this person was about 40 yards from my window when I was watching her. I started to do some digging online and came across the Tulpa. Could my wife's anger with me for reading her book too slowly have created some kind of thought form?

If that's even possible, what purpose would it serve except to confuse? And if this was some random person who wandered in my yard, why the odd behavior? So that's one story that I thought was neat. I like the idea of the sort of like, you know, the guy who was the shadow writer said something about an after image projection or something. kind of like how some people think ghosts aren't conscious. Like you just see them replay things. You know what I mean? I thought it was interesting the idea of a Tulpa

that's just repeating the same action over and over and it's just sort of a simple action kind of unnaturally doing it over and over again. It's like a just barely, barely manifested character. Kind of creepy, kind of interesting. The other one is much weirder and I thought it was really interesting because of the way they framed it.

And this one is from another website, that I could not figure out called Phantoms and Monsters. And this is about a guy who is currently a paranormal researcher, but who says that when they were a kid in the 80s, they'd been trying to get to sleep in the room that they shared with their brother. And then this room had a big walking closet. And as he's laying there, the door begins to open by itself. Okay. So he says, one night as I was trying to get to sleep, my brother was already asleep, the door opened.

and I know this sounds crazy, but out came Big Bird of the children show Sesame Street. I remember being frightened at first, but others came out too, and they were very friendly and led me into the closet with them. All I remember at this point is that Big Bird gave me a flavored chapstick, most likely to ease my fear because I loved chapstick. And they brought me back to my bed. I went to sleep very happy over the whole experience and was not afraid anymore. I put the chapstick under my pillow after taking a tiny nibble, leaving my teeth marks just to see if it was still there in the morning. The next morning, I checked, and lo and behold, the chapstick was there, just like I remembered, and at that moment, I knew for a fact it was not a dream. If it were not for that chapstick,

the experience probably wouldn't have not have stayed with me all these years. I tried to tell my brother, but he laughed it off. As anyone would, it sounds totally crazy. Now, after reading the other accounts of similar experiences, I'm wondering if this was an abduction disguised as a friendly interaction. So that's another thing, because this, what I was going to go, the angle that I was going to go with this in the episode was going to be the thing that we've talked about before a lot of times, which is maybe the people seeing strange things in the wilderness and in their own houses and stuff are seeing some sort of extraterrestrial or interdimensional or time traveling AI or whatever thing. And it is using our own brain power to sort

of disguise itself as something that is acceptable to us. You know what I mean? Something from another dimension that is not expressible in our dimension without taking the form of, say, a chapstick wielding big bird for some fucking reason. But like, you know, that's the idea here is like maybe there's something like that too. Like maybe maybe some external force is creating tulpas that we don't know about or maybe tulpas are something like this. Maybe maybe seeing John Constantine is you actually seeing something that's not expressible in reality taking the form of a warlock from your mind yeah i mean i maybe to a lesser

degree i do wonder sometimes if the things i see now in the sky occasionally are because i've been just thinking about it for fucking so long that i it's just consciousness showing itself what it's been thinking about you know what i mean it's kind of like not that crazy of an explanation in a way right it's like kind of right it's kind of like a little bit comforting of an explanation in a way that you could like manifest things like this even though they're not necessarily real and also see them even though they're not really real. I don't know. There's something kind of interesting about that. It just sounds like I'm talking about hallucinating, but you know, I don't know. Like it's not really hallucinating if it's like product, the product of a lot of manifest.

I still firmly believe whatever it is is still scientific in nature. It's how our reality is on a fundamental level in a way we just don't understand really. And I, If that's your last one, actually, it kind of leads into, like, what I have. What's your best guess on Big Bird, though, real quick? What, what, what happened there to that kid? Oh, hallucination of, like, their parent. What about the Chapstick? Her parent came in, gave him a Chapstick.

Is the Moth Man then? Mothman. Mothman disguised as Big Bird to prevent the disaster of chapped lips. There you go. Maybe, yeah, maybe Mothman does all disasters. Yeah. You just never know. All right.

I accept. What are you, Jesse? What's your guess? I don't, I mean, I think it's, It's fantasy, pure fantasy. But, you know, whatever. I'm not going to hate a kid for having, like, daydreams. A big bird dream?

A big bird dream. Yeah, yeah. Have you ever had something like, and I looked in the morning and it was still there. And that meant it was real. Have you ever had anything like that happened to you? No. What do you mean? Like something where you had like an amazing thing happened and then you're like, will I ever

believe this? I'll keep a piece of paper just in case. No, I did have that one very banal dream that happened. That's the only thing. Where you had a prediction, where you had a prediction? A 24-hour weird prediction of an email showing up. Yeah, very strange. Interesting.

The reason I say this bounces off to my article pretty quick is this article actually came out yesterday. And I got a thanks. Shout out to the Discord for putting it out there. Big Mama Chunk. Appreciate you always. Big Mama Chunk on the Discord. Hell yeah. She's been almost all of our live shows.

She's awesome. She put this up there. She's a sign. I forget what field of academics she works in. Either way, this is a from yesterday. The article, I'll link it to you. But the article is quantum teleportation between photons, photons from two distant light sources has officially been achieved.

I feel like I've heard this story a hundred times also somehow. No, we've heard they've been making like breakthroughs of it toward it and like able to transfer. But let me read you like instead of this is like the article is very hard. So you can scroll down and see how they achieved it with their weird machine. This is from November. I'm seeing a guy and he's giving me a choice between pulling several things out and maybe lava is going to pull the gold. Oh, no. Is it like a really like terrible?

Uh, they put like right below that. Uh, they didn't publish a study on this website. This is the fizz.org website. They published on like nature or something. Dude, this diagram looks like a house from the Sims. That is complex, bro. Dude, exactly. I'm going to read you a more broken.

down version of what happened here. So basically, like what it says, the article says, scientists in Germany just pulled off quantum teleportation between two completely separate light sources for the very first time. Not metaphorical teleportation, actual information getting quote unquote beamed from one particle to another without physically traveling through the space between them. What they did was take two quantum dots,

and this says to think of them like artificial atoms that spit out photons on command. Is that what they are? Yeah, I guess I think that's like There's a science E more version that I don't understand We definitely need like a like a science person They do something If you go to Patreon.com and pay us more money We can hire a in-house quantum science

Because we need like someone to be like This is what this actually means Yeah, get us nice and set So much couple years. Yeah So they took two quantum dots in different locations And successfully teleported quantum information From a photon created by one quantum dot to a photon from the other.

The quantum dots were only 10 meters apart in this experiment, but they've already proven the entanglement survives 36 kilometers through Struttgar's fiber optic cables. The thing is, what they did is they created an entangled photon pair, two light particles that are quantum mechanically linked as a single entity, even when separated, which we've talked about many, many times. One photon from this pair meets up with a third photon, which is the one carrying the information. When these two interfere with each other, the information instantly transfers to the distant partner of the entangled pair that's interacting with that third one. The information doesn't

travel through space. That's where you lost me right there. Huh? That was the moment that you lost me when you said that last sentence. So it's two separate photons, right, with no information. Yes. That are 10 meters apart with the third photon that has information. Yes, yes. One of them goes and basically messes with it to get that information. messes with it. Because the two, and because that one, it's entangled with the other one, the other one also gets that information as well. So whatever information, the one that's interfering with the third photon gets, the other one

automatically gets it. So what is it? How is it? They're transferring information instantly across space. How does the photon get the information? I'm going to keep reading here. One photon from this pair meets up with the third pro photon. When these two interfere with each other, the information instantly transfers and it instantly

appears. It doesn't actually go through anything. So interference is like like literally like messing with the same space. Yeah. Bumping. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Like look at the fucking machine and get that. That's the part. That's the part that I'm trying to understand is just that. Everything else conceptually like if this was just ideas, I'm like 100% with you. I thought that's kind of what quantum entanglement was already sort of. So that kind of makes sense to me that it would that it would, there's something about that that the, the caveman's understanding of quantum physics that I have. Something about that seems consistent with other things I've heard. Basically, the way they go to explain is like the photons, they have to be basically identical.

Like, you know, same timing, same everything, or the teleportation of the information fails. Right. They achieved this using quantum frequency converters to compensate for tiny differences. Their current successor is just over 70% of the time they're able to do this. That's pretty good. The polarization of the photon, which is how it's oriented in space, carries the information. and because of quantum mechanics, you can't read it without changing it. That's the other tricky part about quantum mechanics is once you observe the information,

the observation changes and settles into one thing, which is why quantum communication, and the reason they're researching this is this kind of communication can't be hacked. Because right now the big worry is as a quantum computing happens, encryption dies. If a quantum computer, the first quantum computer that ever exists, it could crack every code on Earth in minutes at most. most because it will be able to calculate every possible algorithm from every possible thing all at once.

And like that's the big scare. And now, so they're looking into how do we keep our shit encrypted? Encrypted. And you can't decrypt something that's in a state of decoherence constantly of multiple states at once. That's impossible. Then how to what happens to the information? Doesn't it change?

Isn't there like? So the way, so it's like, so the way I am understanding as a layman is the information is being kept on a photon that's like decohered. And to get that information, you then have to have another photon hit it, which is entangled with another photon. I literally don't understand what you're saying. Human beings are...

Is you ever playing mass effect? I'm with you. Sure. Human beings are... That instant, like how they... It's what it is. Human beings are saying... That's sci-fi where beep-bo, beep-boop, it works.

With a straight-face human beings are storing information on a decoherent photon? Is that what you said? Yeah. A decoherent photon. A photon. Then the photons have to be basically identical. A light particle.

Yes, a particle of light. We're somehow printing information onto a light particle that doesn't exist. Okay, I'm going to read the scientific run-through and see if this makes any more sense to you. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, photon A, the one with the information that you want to send. Photons B and C are the intent. tangled pair. They're quantum mechanically linked. A goes to B immediately to C.

So photon C stays at the destination. And photon B goes to where photon A is. You bring photons A and B together and do a special kind of measurement called a Bell State measurement. This measurement doesn't tell you what the information on photon A is, but it does destroy both photons and gives you one of four possible results. When you make this measurement, something instantaneous happens. Photon C, the distant partner, collapses into a state that's related to what photon A was.

The information is now on photon C, but in a scrambled form. Interesting. So it's okay, okay, okay. So. And then you never encrypt it. Yeah, so baby version is you have A, B, and C, B and C are connected. You take A and B

And then you like negate the shit out of them. They cease to exist. And what was on A has quantumly ended up on C Because of its interaction with B. However, What's on C is scrambled because it isn't exactly what was on A. It's related information. But it's like those episodes with a transporter makes a mutant.

Yes. It goes on to say like that catch is that this, because this, it still prevents faster than like communication because the person at the destination can't actually read the information yet. Photon C is in one of four possible scrambled states and they don't know which one. You have to send them a classical message, radio phone, whatever, limited by light speed, telling them which of the four measurements results you got. And once they receive that two-bit message, they know which unscrambling operation to apply to photon C.

and then the original information is recovered. Can you not just unscramble all four? Couldn't you quantum compute that and do all four at once? Well, maybe when we have quantum computers, right? Like, you don't know yet because there's no actual classical quantum computer yet. I'm so, I realize that. But they say the act of measuring A and B together causes C to instantaneously collapse into the correlated state, no matter how far away it is.

The information doesn't travel. The wave function of the entire system just collapses. It feels like we're looking at magic and trying to, like, talk about it. Like, I have no, yeah, that's so, quantum physics is so impossible. Like, everybody who, like, literally, Jesse, was that you in the group chat the other day was like, check out this. And it's like a quantum physics professor like, I'm the only one here right now who doesn't know shit about quantum physics. And by the end of the semester, you will all know that you know shit about quantum physics. It's like, yeah.

I, it's, I feel like. it's fascinating that it's so not understandable, but that's what makes it exciting because it means there's a lot we don't understand about the universe and it's like Matt, this favorite mutant power for me of like not being able to remember it once I stop looking

at it. Right, exactly. I'll read this last bit where someone tries to kind of explain it to say it's like you have a sealed envelope, which is photon A, you bring it together with one half the pair, photon B, and you roll them together. Then you, the role doesn't tell you what's in the envelope, like you roll a dice to

together, but it causes the other die, photon C, which could be on the other side of the galaxy to show a face that encodes the letter's content in scrambled form. Then you call your friend and say, I rolled a three and they know how to unscramble their die to read the letter. But we have no idea why those two photons do that. Because entanglement, we just know that's what entanglement is. We genuinely don't know how entanglement, like, why there's space and time don't make, mean anything.

Entangle. How do we get to? How do we get an A and a C? We can entangle. We actually scientifically can entangle photons. The problem is in order to for the information to be like transferred, you still have to call somebody. You still have to like pass along the information.

We need to find the way to be able to look at the information without looking at the information. It would be like, it would be like if, if I wired you over, like, if it's like, you know, I was about to make an 1800s analogy. you but screw that. It would be like if I phone called you right now and said, Alex, I'm sending you over email this encoded information.

You're like, okay. And I emailed you this thing in a split second. It was gibberish. And then you're like, I don't know how to read this. And I was like, oh,

I mailed you the answer. It should be there in 10 business days. Sort of. Like, we can send information quickly, but we can't decode it unless we have the normal, slow moving dialogue between each other. It's like, hey, you know that money that you need?

What's fascinating, though, is it still shows whether we can decode it or not. Information can be transferred instantaneously across any distance. Yeah, oh, no, that's neat. It's just that it's useless right now, but like, it's neat that we can do that. Realty is fundamentally non-local? Maybe. Like, it's like, if you look at like, it's like if you had a bank, hey, I robbed a bank, you know that money you need, I robbed a bank, but I don't know, I grabbed a bag.

and rent. I don't know what country's money it's in, but when you open the bag, it's going to blow up the ink and like, you won't be able to, you won't be able to like use the money anymore. It's like kind of what it's like. It's like the act of getting the information changes the information because it does, what someone says it does imply is that it not, not definitively, but it says it does imply that space might be emergent and not fundamental. Like if entangled, if entanglement connects things independently of distance. Like it's being rendered. Like it's being rendered. Oh, guys. Oh, guys. This is why I'm saying. I think it might be.

Let me read my story. Please. Literally, if space doesn't matter to transfer information, then would not space not be fundamental. Let me read my story. I want to, while Mathis is saying stuff that might be very hard to understand.

This is very easy to understand and it will hurt your mind even more. Take it away. This will like break you. I'm ready. Okay. This article is titled, The Universe is Moving Wrong and no one knows why. It was written by David Freeman.

but it's a bunch of actual published stuff that's been out lately, and it's really starting to pick up steam. I'm just going to read this to you. I've cut it down and taken out a lot of the weird tech stuff, just to give you kind of an idea. Here you go. Something is very wrong with the universe, and scientists just proved it with numbers that cannot be ignored.

This month, a team of astrophysicists, published findings in fiscal review letters that have sent shockwaves to the scientific community. After analyzing 4.4 million radio sources across the sky, they have confirmed that the distribution of galaxies in the universe is radically lopsided, showing an asymmetry more than three times stronger than our own motion through space can explain. This means there is either a massive structure or a vast current flowing through the cosmos that our theories never predicted and cannot account for. This is no small discrepancy. The measurements reveal an imbalance in the universe nearly four times larger than it should be, with statistical confidence so high that the chances of error are essentially zero.

When scientists talk about a 5.4 sigma detection, they mean the odds of being wrong are less than one and several million. They're saying we're 100% sure that we're wrong. Yeah. This is the threshold where anomalies become established facts. The fact confronting cosmology is this. The universe has a structure to it. It should not have. Organized in a direction that suggests forces or flows,

operating on scales our models never anticipated. For almost a century, everything we know about cosmology has rested on one fundamental assumption. The universe, when you zoom out far enough, looks the same in every direction. There are no special places, no preferred orientation, no cosmic up or down.

This is called the cosmological principle. And without it, Einstein's equations describing reality itself stop working. The principle just failed its biggest test. Not because our measurements of motion are wrong, but because the matter itself is distributed in patterns that should not exist. But don't we... But actually, that's funny because the thing I was reading also says this, if this is showing that space is emergent,

it goes against what Einstein was fighting against this for decades apparently. Sure. This is like what he was going against. But if reality is quantum on an information on a fundamental level, then space would be emergent by rule because information is the structure to reality, not space and physical existence. Yeah. But it's fucked up because it's like.

Because space and time would be nothing if we were fourth or fifth dimensional creatures. Didn't we already learn that there's like, we may. maybe in some sort of like... Oh, there was a scientist did propose that we were in a pocket, kind of like our own little... That fucks up all our readings, basically. That whole thing is just like this and that everyone's trying to explain what we're all detecting now, which is something's up. There is clearly a problem.

We're wrong about something. Yes, something's wrong. And so the implications are staggering. Our velocity is not in question. The satellites measuring our motion through the cosmic microwave background are the most precise instruments in cosmology and their measurements are rock solid. But if our velocity only accounts for one quarter of the observed asymmetry, something else must be responsible for the other three quarters. Either the universe itself is lopsided on an unimaginable scale or we are caught in a

massive current, a bulk flow of galaxies stretching billions of light years dragging, dragged by forces or structures that no model has predicted. Think of it like this. You're driving down the highway at exactly 40 miles an hour. Your speedometer is calibrated by the most precise instruments available. It confirms this without question. But when you stick your hand out the window, the wind resistance feels like 150

miles per hour. But your speedometer is not broken. You really are only going 40, but that means you must have 110 mile per hour wind blowing the same direction as you as you travel. A wind you never knew existed and you had no reason

to expect. The wind represents a massive force moving through the environment around you, and every theory you had about weather just became inadequate. That is the situation cosmology faces right now. The cosmic spedometer reads 3,700, I'm sorry, 370 kilometers per second, which is what we're currently at as a galaxy. The asymmetry of galaxy counts indicates an effective motion of more than 1,200 kilometers per second.

The difference cannot be explained by measurement error because independent instruments using completely different methods all measure the same thing. There is a current in the universe or a vast imbalance and how matter is distributed operating on scales that should not exist according to every successful

cosmological model developed over the past century. What the fuck does that even? What am I supposed to do with that information? Well, we're getting there. We're getting there. What makes the discovery particularly disturbing

is that it keeps appearing in multiple independent observations. Researchers using infrared telescopes in space, looking completely different types of galaxies found the same excessive asymmetry pointing in the same direction. These observations have nothing in common with the radio surveys except that they both are mapping distant objects, different instruments, different wavelengths, different parts of the sky, different populations of galaxies, same impossible pattern of lopsided distribution. The team used sophisticated statistical models to rule out every conventional explanation,

Maybe radio galaxy clusters together in ways that create false patterns. They accounted for those clustering effects. Maybe the telescopes have calibration errors that create artificial asymmetries. Different telescopes were used by different people. All without error, all say the same things. Maybe nearby galaxies are contaminating the signal. They filtered all the local sources. The massive asymmetry remains persistent across every test,

pointing in the same direction with unwavering consistency. So here's the fun bit. Scientists are now forced to consider possibilities that sound like science fiction, but represent the only remaining explanations for what the data shows. The first possibility is that matter in the universe is distributed far more unevenly than the model predicts, not just small scale lumpness from galaxy clusters and superclusters, but organization on scales approaching the size of the observable universe itself. Vast regions of higher and lower density,

creating directional flows in asymmetries that persist across billions of light years. And if this is true, the assumption of kind of like that pinpoint exploded outward and everything's even because it all came from the exact same moment and exploded the Big Bang. Like, sure, the Big Bang can be real, but what it did, it's not appearing like that's what happened. And nobody really believes in it anyway anymore, right?

No, no, they do. The Big Bang? Because we can see, like, remember with our telescopes, we're technically looking into the past, and we can see way back to when some of the first galaxies all clustered in a way that we would have expected it to be from the Big Bang have been there. It's just what happened immediately after that moment,

we're just throwing darts at it. Obviously, scientists are taking much better guesses than throwing darts, but we don't have a definitive answer, clearly. It seems silly. possibility. It just seems silly to try and study this place from our little zone. Oh, yeah, it's fast. I mean, like, this truly, there's nothing we can do about any of this, but it's interesting to see like we're learning a lot. Like the second possibility is that we exist within an enormous current, what astronomers call what astronomers call a bulk flow. Picture a river

with eddies and currents extending for miles. Now scale this up to galactic proportions. Our entire region of the universe, including hundreds of thousands of gas, galaxies, this is going to sound like some of the stuff we've talked about before. Stretching across incomprehensible distances might be caught in a coherent flow driven by gravitational effects from structures beyond our observable horizon. Some

researchers have proposed the existence of what they call the Great Repeller. A vast, empty region of space creating flows through gravitational repulsion. Ruled by Emperor Zerg. Others suggest concentrations of matter and directions we cannot

observe might be pooling huge volumes of space into organized motion. Both explanations shatter fundamental assumptions about the way the universe works. Equations that have worked for a century suddenly need modification or additional additions to account for effects operating on this large scale. What's just like a breakthrough tools, more powerful tools to measure more accurately, see further out. Like it's just technology is getting better at detecting more. Was there one specific thing that gave us these new measure? Like was there a moment that we can pinpoint?

We've been talking about this for a while. This is everyone's picking it up and this is the everything coming together. All the 4.4 million sort like this is it. This is guys, we have done the research. We've done the math. We looked at everything everyone had and it's confirmed. We don't know Jack. We are missing some stuff here.

And that's fascinating. Like the third option, even more unsettling is perhaps. we exist in a special region of a much larger cosmos. And this is what that previous article we were talking about, about sort of we're in this little tiny area of space and everything else is operating under different fundamental things. A pocketwork conditions differ from the average.

The asymmetry would detect would then be real, not an error or artifact, but would reflect genuine large-scale variations in the properties of space itself. This violates a principal scientist have held sacred since Copernicus over through the geocentric model. We are not special. We are not the center of anything.

The universe looks the same in any location. This isn't true. The universe is probably different in all sorts of locations. We are just now seeing beyond what we saw before. The measurements are forcing a confrontation between observation and theory that cannot be avoided or explained away. What began as routine survey work cataloging radio sources has evolved into one of the deepest mysteries of modern astrophysics. And the thing that I think is most interesting is the thing we don't think about unless we go like really philosophical. I love that, though.

What was here before the universe existed? You know, we always think like, what is it expanding into? What is, you know, like, is it a bubble? We always have these thoughts. And this, I think, kind of goes into a fun way of like, if there are flows and there's like rivers and I think of it kind of like water, where there are current? that you cannot see underwater rivers. And that's kind of in the darkness of space. I feel like that's the vibe here.

Or there are incredibly large objects outside the known universe impacting the universe. With whatever that means. Galactus, dude. I also think of like if the reality on a fundamental level is quantum information and space is emergent of that maybe where information crosses itself and creates padd that make space emerge, then there is nothing outside because everything outside is just quantum information waiting to become third dimensional patterns that cross each other or something. You know what I mean?

Like, I mean, there could be tons of, I mean, like, literally, if you want to go full sci-fi, you could be like, why are there changes to the, to the universe? Some species is operating on a grand scale and messing with stuff and moving planets. And like, you do whatever you, like, the real takeaway is at the end. It could be true, though. That's the thing, too. The way they talk about the interformation transferring on photons reminds me of Star Trek beaming technology, pumping information, and just pushing it onto other molecules and being

like the same person. I mean, there is literally, it's one of those things where on a day to day human life, if you're thinking, well, what does that mean to us? Absolutely nothing. It's pure high science of like this is massive and could change the way we see things, but on a grand scale, does us being caught in a flow or in a certain area

with a bunch of other galaxies matter? No. The likelihood of the human race even getting outside of our galaxy is minimal. Even at the height of what we could be, right? We could maybe travel between solar systems, but getting out of the galaxy,

that is so far in the future. We would need wormhole technology. Yeah, there's no way. We would need to make that real. And that, yeah, this is not a way. And the idea that like, we would be in an area with very few galaxies, but there'd be another part of the universe with like a lot of you. Like that doesn't matter to us. But it does help us fundamentally understand everything that we cut.

One of those like big questions, why are we here? Right. And it's like what? And that's fascinating. Because you can all easy and go like this way. It doesn't doesn't mean indicate it you have a soul or anything. But if, if reality is fundamental, you die and whatever experience in the third dimension you have melts into that information becomes part of reality. You may not.

you yourself as an individual may no longer exist. You as Jesse as information funneled through this third dimensional brain. But maybe that's still like there is that part of it. It's like though your experience is meaningful because even if you're a human on this earth, that imprints under reality at a fundamental level that we scientifically are only just being able to like peek at. And that's fucking a philosophical branch that may also one day branch into real science if quantum mechanics keeps getting better and better at looking at what,

reality is. Have you guys seen devs? Devs, no. On FX, there's like a show like from 2020. It's like eight episodes. Give it a look if you're into this topic. Obviously it's like way more exciting,

but it's by Alex Garland. That's exciting to you. Okay. I do like Alex Gardner, respect him. Yeah. I'm, I love that. I'm fascinating. That's interesting.

This is fucking space is just now, because now it will never hear it in mainstream, but now they're going to have to redo models like it'll be decades they're gonna have to redo it was like it's like school will be yeah there'll be people who are like i'm angry but like science always changes and i think the fact that it's changing rapidly right now shows how better we are this is like when people get upset when they're like a lot more cases of ADD and autism these days what's going on like we're better detecting it we're better detecting it talking about it like that's that's the it's that kind

of thing when science changes and when stuff around us changes we should have rejected it. We should be like, go on. It's such a famous individual, but if you want to read about somebody who in the ancient, older history had ADHD, Mozart.

Oh, sure. Yeah. Like, that man was ADHD as fuck. Like, every description of that guy. Like, it's,

they've been around forever. But man, it's just like, what is space? I want to see the models. I want to see what they redo. Like, what is it going to lead to?

What is this, this photon information teleportation going to lead to? What does it imply? Like, I don't know. I don't know. How far can you project?

to this. How much control is... Hypothetically, literally infinitely, as long as the two and part of the two particles are entangled. When you apply quantum computing to these numbers, like, is it going to be like in a few years we're sitting in preschool with kids like reality is a consensus of our brains powers of deserving the universe? We are an energy field. Like, it's crazy.

It also shows like into the alien world too. It also shows like looking for radio waves may be the wrong thing to be looking for. Because if we're learning that we will be able to like quantum communicate via computers or whatever, why wouldn't anything more advanced than us be using that and not fucking radio waves, which literally just take so long to traverse space? Because there wasn't a moment we didn't know that existed. Right. You know, like we thought the radio waves was the pinnacle of what we could do.

And now we know that's not. It's pretty crazy. If you imagine, like the first time we'd use. The seven years have been doing the show. Like, so much has just changed about our reality. My genuine perception of reality has changed. I don't think it's necessarily because I'm one of the hosts of this show. No, no, I don't think.

But my current perception of reality has definitely been affected by being the host of the show. Yes, I would agree for sure. Reading as much as you read and having to be very, very, as best as I can without being educated, part, like, get rid of fact and fiction is just you learn. And then the things you're left with are questions. questionable. Like where all the money in these black site projects go with UFOs and shit. But anyway, dude, I love that. I'm going to read into that. Can you link me that article after this?

I do want to read that. I'm so fascinated. Space, what is it, dude? Well, thank you for hanging out with this guys on this gigantic mini episode. We appreciate you. We'll be back next week with another one. And yeah, enjoy yourselves. Is the holiday next week? American Thanksgiving, U.S. Thanksgiving. Is that next week? It is. So enjoy it for those to celebrate. We'll see you afterwards.

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