Chilluminati Podcast - Midweek Mini: Lue Elizondo is an Embarrassment

Episode Date: October 9, 2025

Midweek Minis are older Minisodes from Patreon. Lue Elizondo is embarrassed off of the UAP board. Good.  All you lovely people at Patreon! HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Heroforge - http://www.heroforge.com Promocode: Chill Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Show art by - https://twitter.com/JetpackBraggin http://www.instagram.com/studio_melectro

Do you want to do you want to be a hundred and something something. You got to keep it fresh. 2.30 something. Yeah, keep it fresh. 2.30 something. We had a week off from minisodes. We took the, Jesse was gone, so we just took advantage and said,

you know what? We're just going to take a week for minisodes. Yeah. And I'm glad we did. Nobody needs that weird, quiet energy in a minisode. We get away with that. You and me, we never get out of the loop. We get,

we get, we get through it in the episode because we read all the letters, right? Right. But if we're just like, so what do you think about this? I don't know. Oh, man. Not much.

We're just chilling. What's be up to? We just very, very low energy vibes. There's very chill vibes. Yeah, we're chill dudes. Yeah. Somebody has accused me of being a Charleston every 15 minutes for me to really get peppy. You know what I'm saying?

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, all in due time, my friend. All in due time. I'm going to start today's episode. I want to knock this topic out so because I know people are curious about it. They've asked about it. Hell, Jesse sent a text about it. Oh, my God.

We got to talk about Lou Elizondo. And also what happened today with Lou Elizondo, which happened about an hour before we started recording. I have no idea what happened with Lou Elizondon. Yeah, this is, so this is insane to me. Is he alive still? Just prepare me doing this. Okay.

So, Lelizondo, so I, that the real straw that broke the camels back for me was his chandelier incident. I don't know if you remember the chandelier incident. A chandelier here. What it was was he was doing one of his little presentations and he was showing a photo and somebody in the audience took a photo of the presentation photo, you know, it got sent out and basically he showed it off as like a mothership or something. And their photo was just the reflection.

of a chandelier in the window that they were shooting through like all they had to do is turn the brightness up a little bit and you could see like the little chain and all that other stuff blue then came out a few days later super apologize says i need to do better vetting the person who i trusted the person who gave this to me i shouldn't have basically pushed it off on whoever supposedly gave him that photo you could just turn up the goddamn brightness yourself lou elizando and do a basic test to see if it's a real fucking photograph so uh come this congressional roundtable it wasn't a hearing it was a round table which is just like a discussion and he presents another photo that he goes on to claim that says a pilot gave it to him like a couple hours before the roundtable supposedly and as he shows it he's supposed to be like this if you take the photo at his description it looks dope it's an enormous fucking UFO that's hovering over like farmland like huge like no no vibes yeah like no vibes enormous but even when I saw the photo originally my first thought was that looks like a farm area like that just looks like a farm circle and then another one and the internet took about an hour before not only did they pinpoint exactly where it was but that from the same angle

a colorized photo it's just circles where crops are grown so embarrassing dude not only is it embarrassing but like you fuck up that one time like you've already lost a ton of people but you get like one more fuck up at best you think you would tighten your vetting if he's being honest It's like, are you, yeah, at this point, it's like, are you a scammer? Like, are you just like, lokiy a scammer? Exactly like with, so, and here's the other interesting thing, too. In an interview with somebody who, Mark, I forget what his name, Mark Brown, Matthew Brown, he's the one of the whistleblowers that kind of blew the whistle on maculate constellation,

which ended up actually might being real, which is crazy. Point is he talks about, like, in the back end, he's like, there are certain names you say that if you say them, you are like persona and ungris get fired. Lou Elizondo is not one of those names You can talk about Lou Elizondo all you want Grush is one of those names apparently Point being he fucks up this He just chose his photo

It's clearly a farmland And every there is no He got a lot of shit for He made a YouTube apology video That's how you know Like he fucking like he fucked up But today right beforehand The group of people that work

That like work with these people That provide whistleblower protection Via lawyers and stuff He was part of the board of that he isn't anymore but he was removed today stepped down today there's a bunch of changes that are happening

on that on that UAP board this is the board that has had congressional meetings and I'll go over what's coming up next Christopher Mellon is now chairman of the board Jordan Flowers who I don't know is executive director there is a new doctor on the

team and it's Dr. Anna Brady Estevez and I did some looking up on her and she is a fascinating figure because she is purely within the science tech world. She was the program director at the U.S. National Science Foundation. She led a small business innovation research portfolio that focused on space tech, energy, chemical, environmental and distribution ledgers. She also worked with blockchains when they were raising when they were coming into existence. She worked with deep technology companies. She's in the world of tech and has worked with air companies, companies called Medi, Provivi, and all these other

shit that I don't really recognize anyway. And within the government. And now she's led national level initiatives, including co-chairing in the U.S. Space Economy Interagency Working Group, which is included working with the interagency and private sector on space technologies, which include UAP-related stuff, which is how she got brought on board to this thing. So she is now part of the UAP Disclosure Fund Board as one of their leading scientists, as is Dr. Avi Loeb, which I know people have mixed opinions about him, which they're, he doesn't seem really like a faker, though. Yeah, but, you know, be as you may, he's not the only one. Dr. Anna Brady Estevez is now as well.

Lou Elizondo is leaving. Dr. Gary Nolan is leaving and their former director of strategy, Matthew Ford is also leaving. wonder why um uh yeah i don't know why i assumed the lou elizondo thing had to have been from this last fuck up that's my best guess is like you can't like we can't be taken seriously if you're just going to be doing the shit he got bought by reddit in the end is what happened you're telling me he got bought by reddit within an hour like yeah it was so quick dude it was not a hard fine like what are we doing lou that's why he's getting needed uh u and feng is now director of government affairs uh they they they are ua pdf founder you on passes the torch to executive director Jordan, and Lester Nair is director of operations.

They also, they've got a classified briefing with Congress the week of May 12th, so that's next week. They have two house hearings in the pipeline, and they're helping draft legislation right now with Congress to, you know, more UAP stuff. But the last time something was drawn up, the Schumer amendment, it got gutted right before it got passed. So I have very little faith, you know, that because Schumer had a whole UAP bill that right, the couple days before got extremely gutted.

So I just want, you know, I'm, if people didn't know, like the Lou Elizando thing, the chandelier thing was it for me, this is not a surprise watching the UFO subreddit's meltdown. But there seems to have been an immediate consequence for his fuck up. Like the part of the shit that he's been with this whole time, that group of people who have been doing the congressional things, he's gone. He's out. He's done.

So fucking crazy, dude. How embarrassing, dude. It's so embarrassing, dude. Like, it's so stupid. Like, are you serious? It's hard to, like. You didn't look at that photo in for two seconds ago. Maybe I shouldn't show this in front of Congress.

I want to, you know, I want to give the dude the Benny of the D, right? But we don't. We can't. I did too. And I gave it to him for far too long. It took me. I should have,

you know, the book should have been it for me, but I gave him a little bit more. And the, the chandelier was it. Yeah. It's just so. I don't understand.

Like, but he still works in the government. So I don't get what his angle is because he still is working with in the government. He just might be fucking. annoying. Yeah, he just might just be like a guy who wants to be involved with aliens. It might be Ockham's Razor as that. Might literally be he loves the attention

that comes with this thing. I mean, I would assume that's the case for, like, the biggest like, uh, it's insane. It's insane. For me is like, we exist in a world where conspiracy theorists are like the government is up to something. They're always lying to us.

But all these dudes in the government with aliens, we should trust them. They're in, they're telling the truth. It always seems so hypocritical. to me that we give them the benefit of the doubt we don't we shouldn't that's what that's the point it's like the whole point we do but people who don't look into it do it's over compartmentalize everybody does it like everybody's coming out is like has their own piece and then there's lou elizondo who is like even even the FOIA document requests at a green street the black vault he's like

I'm so confused as to who Lou Elizondo was in the ATIP program because he has two different pieces of paper that say two different things and you just I don't understand yeah it might be at this point like I don't know it might just be the attention like our donor I think it's mostly the attention yeah but it sucks so you know as always with Lou Elizondo you know you take it with a grain of salt now I just say if you still put any any faith in that man then like you're the lost cost like there's not like even the paperwork if you do the digging leads to very quick dead ends on Elizondo as opposed to like more interesting like things like the Rendlesham forest incidents and other just other things that you can actually like go through so

Lou Elizonda's out done he's out of that fucking shit they got a new doctor on board the game is up Lou a tech scientist lady who's on board now and a few other people that I don't know much about yet but I'm just glad he's not going to be in those congressional hearings maybe he wants to be there maybe he just wants out maybe he was like you know what I'm just going to do two big boners and then I'm out and then I'm free I find it here's what I and this is just like here's you know

here's the mathist conspiracy thought I will leave people with as we move off this topic it is fucking interesting that Lou Elizander can come out and say all this shit on all different podcasts, talk to government people, go to congressional hearings, be able to host a tour for his book. Grush comes out once and he is removed from security clearance. His mental health records get leaked and he is persona non grotto. We don't hear from him basically ever again. Yeah.

Why is it so differently treated by the government ourselves? Just a food for thought. Doesn't mean anything, but it is interesting that like they both push for the same thing and one is treated with, like, freedom to do whatever, and the other one is like, security, Grush's security clearance had only been restored about a week ago. I was reading from somebody on Reddit that they thought that maybe it wasn't about aliens for Grush really so much as it was about like shining a light,

like something else that he really specifically wanted to point out that like he's not saying because he wants the publicity of saying UFOs are real and that like the inquests will reveal that or something like that, you know, this other thing. That's a very weird kind of like angle to take that. We've only had his one or two, you know, testimonies to read through. And even in Grush's testimony, remember, the AP news

clip of his testimony clip purposely edited out the mention of biologics when it's not edited out of NBC's or CBSes, which is also very fucking strange. Super just weird, super weird. Little weird things. Grushit becomes persona Nongrata, but Lou Elizano can go on and shout shit from the rooftops and nothing happens.

feels like a pretty much a seal of Nintendo seal of approval on Rush. That's what it feels at this point. And then you do this, fuck Elizondo, dude. All right, I must stress. I had to go look at his Twitter account. Who? This is incredible.

This is incredible. The posted thing at the top is a Theodore Roosevelt quote that says, it is not the critic who counts. Not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. the credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena

whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood who strives valiantly who airs who comes short again and again because there is no effort without error or shortcoming but who does not actually strive to do the deeds like it's nonsense and then this man saw an opportunity in the UFO world to fill in a hero niche that people thought like people clearly wanted and he jumped in same day different post

as you know I'm always the first to admit my mistakes but this is not one of those times the facts regarding the photo I shared from a private pilot as I emphasized several times yesterday during the forum are as follows one the specific photo had only

just been provided to me that's not even a photo that morning so instead of vetting it you just fucking presented in Congress unvetted two the photo had not yet been vetted like bro then why What are you doing? When we have shit like Tick-Tac video, Mosul or like actual government videos, that's what you can give me?

Calm down, you don't understand. I was using really, really shoddy stuff. I was really, I was using really unverifiable evidence in presenting it as if it wasn't. That's why this is fine. Sorry, go ahead, Des. You want to finish the rest of this isn't my fault tweet that you were reading? Oh, yeah. Sure, sure, sure, sure.

Three. The dimensions I quoted were, per the pilot's own assessment of what he saw, based on altitude and experience. The purpose of me showing the photo was to illustrate the need for civilian and commercial pilots to have a central reporting mechanism to report potentially anomalous sightings. In this case, the pilot who took the photo using his own camera did not have a way to report what he believed was anomalous. Once again, as I stated during the forum, I only received permission to release it that morning and was only made aware of it shortly before. So why?

Not sure how many times I needed to say it, and I will say it again. The photo was not yet vetted, and I made that perfectly clear. So why use it, you dumb fucking idiot? Imagine this illustrates a bigger point here. When pilots or anyone else for that matter come out to share what they feel may be anomalous?

They're faced with fierce ridicule instead of productive dialogue. From some of the UFO community, they learned quickly not to ever share a day. Imagine New York Times just publish AI images. That's what I'm saying. Dude, the ridicule only came after it was vetted

and we found out it was a... So you're telling me a pilot who was flying over a field, looked at the field and said, that's a UFO. That's what you're trying to sell here? Come down. We didn't check.

The ones who were screaming about instead of discussing respectfully, as I had hoped, missed the entire point of the photo and are not helping other pilots in the future from coming forward. It keeps going. It's your fault. Guys, not real. He's so mad. Okay. That's crazy. That's that's like every other fucking YouTuber apology. The best part is every comment

is like, then why show an unlimited photo? Yeah, literally. Because it's unprofessional in any way you look at it. Truly paints him as wanting to be a hero of a story. he never got to have right and he saw the UFO world and he saw it was still very like you know had a lot of spots people were willing to believe he bamboozled me for a little while fuck like up until the book I was like I think Elizondo maybe he says he because he was crucial in getting certain videos out like the 2017 TikTok video because he did work in the government but he overstated his role but now I'm but now I'm suspecting everything with his name on it now I'm now I'm

I'm less confident about everything that he's ever brought forward because of this. That's the problem. Like, yeah, of course. Like, that's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's. That's why this matters, not anything, not some weird technicality that gets you off the hook. And here's the other conspiracy thought. If you're the government and you are, are, are hiding UFOs. You want this guy out there. Yeah. Exactly. This guy is doing your job for you. Exactly. He's making, they don't have to have to hire him. They don't have to be like, be muddy the waters. Just let Luizondo be the egocentric driven man he is. And you just get to watch the UFO world care itself apart.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm in again. Yeah. That's what makes this shit so annoying. It's extremely dumb. It's extremely dumb. What do you got?

Take it away from me before I yell more. What do you got? Somebody else. Go. I'll give you something good. Some little fun. Down to Earth, we'll say. Okay.

So down to Earth, it's slithering. Oh. Snake lights. Oh. Oh, this motherfuckerucker. are one of the most terrible things out there and treatment for them is equally as bad. In order to get anti-venom,

scientists have to extract the venom from a snake that inject it into a horse or a sheep, then harvest the antibodies from the animal to then use it to save a human bit by a snake. This is like some Batman shit. Yeah, it works. And it costs a ton. It's also region-specific to the snake, right?

You have to use the anti-venom for the venom. And potentially, based on the fact, that they have to stick it in an animal first, the antibody could give you some alert reaction to the animal. Well, now scientists have created a broadly protective anti-venom, the most powerful

ever thanks to a man with an immunity to snake bites. Now, if you're wondering, how did this man learn he was immune to snake bites? Well, he didn't because he did it all on purpose. He spent nearly two decades

deliberately building immunity by injecting himself with increasing doses of venom. Literally the Princess Bride. From some of the vaccines, baby, that's vaccines. From some of the most deadliest snakes, including black mamas, king cobras, and tiger snakes. This guy was probably fucking vibed out all the time. This guy probably had a rough couple of years. Well, this is the thing.

Over 100 exposure exposure, exposure spanning 16 different species. this guy Tim Freed I think so I say his name built up this remarkable resistance that no one else has achieved and because of this he donated some blood samples to Jacob Glanville

and his team at Centovacs Inc. That's a hilarious idea. And now Centivax is funding this research to create what essentially would be a snake bite epipen that you could take with you

in a backpack if you go hiking and it just deals with any and all snake bites because of this one guy who was an absolute insane person what was he doing like how how do you get the snakes you just go to them dude i don't know i don't know if he was like hello let me go to the zoo how many will you let me bite yeah how many would you imagine he had to get some of the venom and then because he couldn't do a full snake bite no you i mean like i guess so venom venom venom venom venom and then he's milking the

snakes what the fucking yeah i guess like that's how you would have to do i don't dude i don't know that's so crazy he's as crazy he's as crazy crazy. So I'm not sure how many people out there are aware of the guy, the billionaire, who is trying to not die. Yeah. So he's like cycling in his son's blood. He's like trying all this crazy shape. He was like, there should be a church to the body to the human. Well, I am convinced this man is absolutely insane. I think he's as insane as this guy that I hope we get to study his body at some point. Yeah. That's like Wayland, like, uh, from like, you know, Guy Pearce when he like, yes. Yeah. I'm David. I'm a new android. That's like his type of vibe. I hope that that guy just like this, dude, Tim, they're weird. I'm going to experiment myself. I'm fine with that. Go nuts, crazy people. Do, like, invest in yourself, experiment.

I don't care. Sometimes it pays off like this. So, um, anyway. Do what you want to your own body? Yeah, your own body? Have fun. Inside Freed's blood where antibodies forged through years of repeated exposure to lethal neurotoxins. That's so dumb.

That's like, hillbilly magic. That seems impossible. It really is. I guess his defenses in his body neutralize a broad range of snake venoms. By isolating and studying these unique antibodies, Glanville's team aimed to transform Freed's extreme personal experiment into a groundbreaking medical achievement, a universal human-derived anti-venom. This guy's got to be a snake man.

He's got to go be the new crocodile hunter. Yeah, he's kind of like Cobra Commander a little bit. Yeah. It's like unreal The cobra Come on He probably fucking sounds like that If he got bit by a hundred snakes

Like this Yeah he has a little S to the end When I got bit by a king cobra in the throat Glenville Hover issues a warning That when it comes to results To be clear

We do not Recommend self-immunization Of snake venom to anyone But it is tied to this guy did it And live That's pretty much it They're like yeah It's cool this guy did it

But please don't For the record there are over 2.7 million cases of envenoming, which is a great word, by the way. And 100,000 deaths per year from snake bites. Jesus Christ. I didn't raise like that. I mean, 100,000?

Yeah, deaths per year. Yeah. Deaths in the globe. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Holy fucking shit. But still, that's like crazy considering you don't think often about like snakes getting you. That's like four baseball stadiums every year.

It's crazy. Yeah, and 2.7 million people just getting bit And still living, but like 2.7 getting bit That's a lot too Yeah, I mean, I've been bit by a snake, but not by a venomous snake I've never been bit by a snake They've been pretty chill around me Yeah, I go to like zoos and stuff

And they're like in your face When they go to the snake exhibit They wrap around your arm and stuff Snakes ain't my enemies though, I still like them Even though they bit me As a people, they bit me Well, that's like that's a snake You've only been bitten by

snakes that can't eat your ass right exactly like if i got if i got like anaconda dude same thing with sharks and tigers i'm like no no thank you all anything that can eat me i'm not a friend don't like it anything you can eat john void friend uh hilariously so yeah uh okay i'm glad you guys both had big media articles um because mine is not but it is so fucking weird that i just i hope you guys haven't seen this because it is the fucking weirdest that I've ever seen. Late in the evening in Godfrey in Madison County

Sheriff's deputies respond to Tony's ranch house located in the 3,300 block of Godfrey Road, Godfrey. In regards to possible discovery of something interesting near the parking lot.

And the police said there's preliminary investigations going on and it's crazy, but basically there was this woman from Alton who's at the restaurant she said quote we were just going as a group of friends to get some pizza and that's one of the two sentences that she's quoted in this entire article she says that she got out of the vehicle she noticed what she thought was dropped food and her friends were in front of her

heading into the restaurant when she had to get their attention to go back and she said I thought someone was doing a prank and basically she called the cops and she said that she thinks she found a human foot in the parking lot and the cops investigated it like I said and it turns out that it's not human but I don't know what it is there you go you tell me to describe it to the people

and just let me know what you think it is okay it looks like a monkey paw oh yeah it kind of looks like a human foot almost yeah she says she thought it was a realistic prop but man like you can click on it you can get a little higher res i just don't know what i think it looks

like a little beef jerky monkey foot it does look kind of gross but there's like some kind of weird tendon situation going on i really don't know what i'm looking at a dog's foot maybe like just really dry wait so that's the full story we don't know what there's no follow-up they're like it looks like a foot doesn't it but let me tell you it's not human that's the story i hope there's a follow-up one day this is why i always complain about this and i'll continue to plan about this. Yeah. Media,

news media, you're failing us. No one's asking questions. I know. Maybe they need to get tested still. Maybe this is like on the day reporting. It's not. This is our April 26th.

Hold on. We've had time. Surely someone would answer. This is like we were talking about those dudes who died in the hospitals and there was just never any follow-ups. And it's like, what do you mean? No one investigated ever?

Here, let me end today's minisode with something that I just, that literally came out 10 hours ago that synchronous, like has some synchronization. with the folk magic episode. Okay. We talk about consciousness. Sure.

So in quantum mechanics, when there is an atom, it is in the superposition, meaning it's in multiple states at once. The probability of each of those states is different. The thing that causes something to pick a state is measurement. But that doesn't mean observation by us. It means something that it could literally interact with another atom. And that's called decoherence. But it causes them to interact.

So they have to choose a state. And that's what happens. And then decoherence kind of can ripple out like a butterfly effect, right? And that's decoherence in quantum mechanics. However, however, today a study was released where they were able to image atoms in a unique way. Usually the way they image atoms is like a cloud of atoms. It's the only way they can really do it. And they're already kind of interacting in that way.

But via laser and a weird freezing method, they were able to freeze and like basically take a picture of these atoms. in their natural state without them being in a cloud, specifically the boson ones. And what they learned is that a theory proposed in the 1920s is actually true where they boson particles were interacting with each other in groups, but in groups were still acting as though they were a wave. So they were kind of grouping together and then becoming a superposition in a group, meaning multiple of them then take on all states at once while they are in like a

lattice grid formation. Fucking wild. So yeah, like atoms can come together and then as a group then take on wave-like properties as though they were a singular atom in a superpositioned state.

Did that make any sense for you? I have no idea what you just said. What do you mean? I feel like I was like halfway grasping it and then you lost me like in the last like five sentence, like five sentences, five phrases. So yeah.

Basically, what they learned is that when in their natural state not being measured or observed, boson particles, which is the particle they were measuring, come together and interact. They come into groups, basically lattice-like grid-like patterns. And then once they're in a group, instead of becoming non-wave-like and they're decohering because they're interacting, they group up and then become wave-like. So while there's a group of atoms, they are now a wave and a particle as a group. group as opposed to just being particles because they're interacting and now their superposition is forcing them to collapse. Does that make sense? I understand everything except for why

their superposition would force them to collapse. Normally when quantum objects interact or bump into something, they lose their quantum weirdness. Right. That's decoherence. It's like, so when they try to take a photo of it, they say it's like taking like a blurry photo and then making it sharp. You're just saying it's the fact that they group together that keeps them together. Yeah. So then this is surprisingly, scientists saw that these atoms, while freely interacting in empty space, still behaved like waves. They didn't immediately lose their wave-like quantum properties, even though interactions were happening. So the particles were interacting with each other, but they weren't decohering. Scientists used to think interactions usually force quantum systems

to quickly decoher, turning from wave-like to particle-like. But these atoms maintained their quantum wave-like nature clearly enough for scientists to actually photograph and confirm it visually. So these atoms were coming together and interacting, but still staying as a wave, which is a theory from the 20s. It's called validation of de Brojolet's theory, which was 1924 when he proposed it. That's when he thought of it, but only now were they able to actually measure it. So even in a quantum world, they're interacting.

this is again 10 hours old I gave you the link to the article there's a bunch of different articles out there that they are still remaining wave-like which they say just it proves that quantum wave properties aren't just fragile things

that vanish at the slightest bump atoms can remain wave-like for longer than expected even during interactions opening new doors to understanding and harnessing quantum mechanics on a whole so I don't know I'm just saying it's interesting

that this is like today. I keep thinking of like a PlayStation 5 or something like that. I keep thinking of the way that like things are handled how how like data is loaded and unloaded and become something different when you're not observing it. You know, I think about that analogy all the time and like

how they were talking about how the PS5 can like load stuff that you're not looking at faster so you don't have to have loading screens and stuff like that. And then I wonder if like the rules of physics actually do change from time to time. Do you ever about that? Well, here's what's fascinating between, like maybe we're getting hardware updates on reality, you know what I mean? Like maybe the tech is changing because that seems literally

crazy. Quantum mechanics is studied separately than classical because they they don't know how they connect. So they're just like totally separate things. But this they say potentially implies that reality is basically quantum, deeply more quantum than we realize. If even when interacting particles are staying existing as both a wave and a particle, even though they, when they interact, they should decoher. So, but it teaches us that interaction does not automatically mean decoherence. That's fucking cool. I can't.

I don't know. It's just fucking mind. It's hard to like wrap your fucking brain around. Is this really a picture of it? Yeah, they have photos. They got like a little laser photos of the particles like in the article. But this pink shit is not it, right? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Hang on. There's another article that I actually had before this one that I was just trying to read a couple of them to make sure. understood what was going on. This looks like some like this one. This is right. AI bubbles and shit. Here's the live science article. Okay.

And you've scrolled down a little bit. They kind of show diagram. Oh yeah. Okay. Interesting. Wow. Yeah, research also capture images of lithium fermions, a type of particle that repels similar particles rather than bunching together.

I don't know what any of this means. I literally, I'm trying to read it. and like figure it out and I got nothing. The best way I can break it down is quantum science. When you look at something, it collapses from wave and particle to particle. Anything interacting with it is the same as measuring it. You don't have to look at it. If it bumps into something, it causes it to be measured, aka pick wave or particle.

This is showing that that's not actually always the case. They can interact with each other, bump into each other, but still stay wave and particle simultaneously in a state of superposition. which is literally now how impossible yeah it's not impossible clearly but I mean it seemed like it was a second ago let's put it that way right yeah it's what that means like on a on a grander scale

I don't fucking know like it just makes me think about that updates to the engine updates to the hardware different like the reality is like loading and unloading faster around us but our observation of it is like part of the power I mean that yeah right like that's the other part of it is like what is it like at what point does collapse happen then right yeah is it different for every particle does nothing can nothing be it can only be when nothing is observing something oh here's like the other part is

atoms are 99% empty space right they're just vibrating energy so are we right yeah i guess that that's well then exactly it's like what's that mean like but yeah like it i don't I don't understand. Yeah. They just says that the experiment just reinforces the idea that quantum behaviors like wave particle duality are not just theoretical constructs, but now observable phenomena. How do you observe something that's not that's happening while you're not, while it's not being observed?

That's that's a part of the experiment. I don't understand. What the fuck are you talking about? Ice and freezing and then looking at what was frozen or something. I don't know how they did it. I truly don't understand. All right. But fuck, dude.

What a time. What a day for that. to come out when we're talking about that stuff on the episode today bends my mind around that is so crazy yeah exactly like i guess i'm saying let me go to is magic just science we don't understand magic so wrong about the world right now still we are so wrong it was only last year we discovered that the universe isn't expanding equally in all directions did you watch was did you watch q i you watch that show q i no it's like a show where they just like talk about facts all the time it's like oh yes at your house actually at your place i have yes and literally they like

did like a, like a factoid one time because the show's been on for like, you know, two decades or something. And they're like literally, it's like something like I, I might be over saying it, but it was something like 85% of the facts that we've said on the show are like no longer true or something like that. Yeah, yeah. That's crazy. It's like an insanely high amount of facts just constantly are being like, like, edited,

you know, changed. Yeah. Like reviewed and, and, uh, reassessed like it's unbelievable so i don't know yeah that's and that's again the fact that it now shows decoherence is an instant what the fuck does that mean and how high you know i don't know man it's crazy mark surney dude the more we learn about quantum mechanics the more the world feels magical in a weird way in a weird like truly like actually like i can like use symbols and control it more like based on what it is you become doctor dude if one day you become doctor

strange just like what just like what you're saying sounds more like the like astroplane than it used to you know what I mean it's weird man it's just weird it's cool it's weird and this is what I meant by like magic and science or maybe a little closer than we thought what I meant was like that foot looks like a foot but like it's if everybody thinks it's a foot then it is a foot right you know what I'm saying true though you're yeah you're right yeah thank you all so much for listening Jesse you look like you are your mind like is like I've been trying to read this and I just like it's I understand what the words are saying

I understand what the words mean you know what I mean I understand the words I just don't understand really do you and Jesse get like completely like blown out by a fucking moon like a quantum thing that's fucking trippy as hell because I'm trying to understand it because I always feel like we go into the quantum stuff

like oh yeah that's yeah but really that I'll see online like these guys don't understand this at all so I'm really actively trying to understand and I've got to be honest This time I'm like, I don't think I get it, but I understand what they're saying, but I like don't get it. I'm going to pass us along to Big Mama Chunk in our Discord because she is actual like scientists and she always calls me out on when I don't think. She led me to learn about decoherence.

I'll just, you know, like it's very fascinating stuff. I'm very curious what they'll think. I'm happy to be educated vicariously by any means. Yeah. I really appreciate the people who have taken the time to make like a very informative video at our behest. Me too. That's always wild to me. So, yeah. All right. Anyway, that's us for, that's it for our minnesota.

Jesse, we'll return to you in a week and see if your brain is healed. Thank you. Thank you also much. We support here at patreon.com. And, you know, according to the quantum world, you're both supporting us and not supporting us at the same time. Some of you are listening to this in the future and some of you are listening to it in the present. Isn't the end?

And the past. Yeah. Whoa. See you next week. Goodbye.