Chilluminati Podcast - Midweek Mini - Man Who Says He's a Ghost Robs a Place

Episode Date: September 5, 2024

Mike, Jesse and Alex return for another Midweek Mini From June of 2023 (Minisodes 137 and 138) MERCH - http://www.theyetee.com/collections/chilluminati Special thanks to our sponsors this episode - All you lovely people at Patreon! HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Art Commissioned by - http://www.mollyheadycarroll.com

And now with the magic of technology, our faces, the terrorists have won. They have won by giving us money. They have won. Welcome to the Minnesota 137. I believe is today's Minnesota. Alex, why don't you welcome everybody to this new era of video with some stories? I wish I could show my butthole on camera, but I can't just set me La Rosa. I mean, you can order a tree on dot com slash Chiluminati.

Well, for the butthole cut, you have to head to the secret. The secret. You got to figure that one out here. That's an ARG in the making, right? That's a secret. Sign up for that. What? That's the secret.

You signed up by letting me have you on as a host and being part of the show for five years. I gave my expressed written consent to the whole we became somewhat like minimally successful. It was over at that point. You're done. You're here. All right. What's what's left to wonder about with?

They've already seen my face now your butthole. That's true. That's true. You got to keep them guessing that's true. There's no pictures of Alex on the Internet anywhere, actually. No, it's just a picture of me from when I'm like 25. Like, yeah, when you used to work at a.m. p.m. Yeah. When I used to film in Gerard's bedroom bedroom.

We're here now. This is it. This is it. This is it. This is what you've been missing. Thank you. This isn't more. Yeah, this is great. This is what twenty dollars gets you. This is it. Thank you. Look, look at us. This is what you do one. This is what freedom looks like. Hey girl. How you doing? I assume a girl. Hey girl. Hey girl At least one it's 20% of our audience is female 20% egg girl One egg girl. Hey girl.

What's a girl? Alex Serenade us with the story of the red. You really want to get right into it. All right. You want to know, Jesse, you start us out. All right. We just had a whole hour and a half of aliens. I guess you probably need to balance that out for me.

Sure. Sure. Sure. So a story ran this past week that was all over the place about an AI controlled drone going rogue and killing its human operator in the United States air sport air force simulated test. Um, well, it's a good start. It's already starting the revolution is here. Yeah. So this is, this genuinely creeped me out because of how accurate

this logic was to like the type of mistake that starts Terminator off or something like that. Uh, okay. Hit me. I don't know this story, man. I'm ready. Oh, get ready. So the headline was everywhere. There were plenty of different sites on the internet racking up views from various people. Go and check this out. You know, stoking the fears of Skynet and AI, like take over that kind of thing. The website Insider published a similar story that said an AI powered drone tried to attack its human operator in the US military simulation. Fox News had a headline that was US military AI drone simulation kills

operator before being told it is bad then takes out control tower. But shout out to the fact checkers over at Channel four in the UK who were like so this story was everywhere for a day and then vanished. Yeah, why is that happens? Yeah, you are not allowed to use whatever logic you're going to do here and not apply it to the alien world. Jesse, I swear to God. Well, I just, you know, let's let's get into the facts then. Right. So at the center of the story were comments from a Colonel Tucker, Colonel Tucker Cinco Hamilton Cinco, I guess, is his call sign. Head of the United States Air Force's A.I. Test and Operations Unit. He told the Royal Aeronautical Society conference in London about training an AI powered drone in a simulation to destroy imaginary surface to air missile sites when the drone killed and quotes, it's imaginary human operator. The Colonel described how having been instructed not to do that, the drone

then turned its attention to the fictional control tower, which it then destroyed instead. Now, to be clear, there was never any suggestion that the human operator or the control tower existed or were destroyed in real life, despite what many articles online said. Yeah, it sounded like it was going to be when I first read about it, that it really happened in a real exercise. But then that's reading initially only reading between the lines that I hear that the entire scenario was simulated. Thank God. Right. Well, what ended up happening? Like with all things government related, though, many out outfits and outlets reported on the story for the day it was everywhere. The U S air force came in and said, we don't have AI drone simulations. It's not a thing we've ever done. And then on Friday morning, the story took another turn when the Royal

aeronautical society reported that Colonel Tucker told them he misspoke and that the U S air force has never run that experiment, nor would we need to do so to get this as a plausible outcome. So did the US have an AI drone that killed an imaginary operator? Apparently, according to them, no, it never happened. And the guy misspoke. He misspoke. That's what he said.

He misspoke. If that logic works for aliens, it works for this. Sounds like he's telling the truth. That sounds like he fell on his knife 10 times kind of vibes. Yeah. And again, I think his quote, we've never run that experiment nor would we need to in order to realize that this is a plausible outcome, I think is super interesting where creepy they like already know that the AI. Well, I do.

It could probably blow us up. It's a running back bomb experiments in World War II. There's nothing that these people wouldn't try first as less unhinged. It's less. It's actually like it's weird because he's like precaution. We wouldn't need to take precautions. Are you crazy? We like know that it would have been why would I test?

We know it would happen. Yeah, I misspoke when I said that I meant to say nothing. And according to the in coordinate channel for the UK again, they say we don't have access to internal documents or third party verification of every simulation or experiment. The US military has run with AI, but the only source of the idea that this simulation ever happened has since appeared to walk it all back. As it stands, we have no evidence

that such simulation ever took place and strong evidence in the new testimony of Colonel Tucker combined with the US Air Force's denial that in fact, it never took place. And my question is, what are they hiding? What are they hiding? Once again, they're clearly hiding something. Every time you tell me, oh, this is a new thing.

I'm like, okay, can't wait for them to walk it back. Yep. Every time it happened. I miss 12. Remember, the news got like 48 hours where they were said whatever, like UFO, UFO, and then the military showed up was like, no, change. This is the same.

It's the same kind of BS when a politician says something incredibly racist or whatever. And then it's like I misspoke what I meant to say was like no dude. What you said was awful. This guy was like, yeah, AI powered drones in a simulation went and killed a man and that he's like, I'm sorry. I misspoke. How'd you miss speak that? Yeah, no, I don't know what the fuck he's miss gonna be like at all gonna be like I didn't say that Grush was an upstanding citizen. I said that I had never heard of him before and then he doesn't exist Yes, yes, we're to God if I I'm ready. Oh my god

I mean my phone's gonna start getting tapped and I just disappeared. It's already been tapped my dude. That's true. It is just any they can listen to anything they want anytime. Yeah, since 2001 at least, at least even these mini so it's have been tapped. They can see us now, dude. That's true. It's not just our patrons that are watching us. It's the CIA, bro. Listen, we had careers when we were on camera before this. They knew what we looked like long ago. I've been involved. This is what they wanted. They wanted to get that sweet paying us money on Patreon to see our faces.

I welcome it. Look, how does this end up in a are we just going to podcast it for the normies? How do we then? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you just do. Yeah, no, because, you know, we're not exclusive. This is just for pay. Oh, right. Patreon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, on dot com slash to an ID pod to see how you can see us. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And if you want to see my the butthole cut, head over to the secret, the secret page, you know, Sean, we can't promote that here. It's illegal. No, it's it's not real. Uh, I misspoke. I misspoke. Let me give you my

article next because it's very short. Yeah. What do you got? This is a mix of of paranormal and true crime. Jesse and Alex ready? A family in Florida were understandably bewildered when a man wandered into their home with the wild claim that he was a ghost. Oh, no. Of course it's Florida. Is this Florida, man?

Yeah, I was going to say. It's all who's left in Florida. Everybody else is already gone. The very weird incident reportedly occurred last Thursday evening in the city of Fort Myers as the Brian McCaslin and his two daughters had just sat down for dinner. Their meal was quickly interrupted by what seemed to be someone knocking on their front door when McCaslin went

to see who it was. He was surprised to find a man in a bathing suit standing there in their living room in the exchange that followed was nothing short of bizarre. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So he heard a knock on the door and he was already inside the doors unlocked. He walked inside into their living room. That's how you get shot. Like don't don't don't do that as a joke. Don't do that as a girl. That girl got shot like driving into somebody's driveway like don't the man who walked into the

house was also equally confused. The homeowner said he started to tell me that he was a ghost and I shouldn't be able to see him. He was shocked that I could see him. He thought he was walking around that nobody could see him. As one might imagine, the situation left McCaslin rather perturbed, and he was able to convince the spirit to leave the residence without incident. However, the hell of a drug, man. I know, right?

However, this is not the end of the strange visit who identified himself as Kevin. He proceeded to lock himself in the side of the truck of a work crew outside the home that he was at. And mind you, is in his bathing suit, yelling that he's a ghost. Is it right? Right. Right. What happened to you, Kevin? That's my father's name. What happened to you, Kevin? Man, we need to talk.

I got I got some guesses. Yeah, yeah. Kevin's occupation of the vehicle didn't last very long as the workers were able to convince him to exit the truck. He subsequently fled the scene and then promptly vanished. Ironically, not unlike a ghost. Look at that coast to coast throwing a little bit of editorial. Yeah, a little editorial levity. You love to see it.

He reported the unsettling encounter to the police, though he opted not to press charges. So Kevin's still out there. The ghost. You know what? He is or is not alive. He's still he hasn't been busted yet. No, he's still out there haunting.

He doesn't exist. Maybe because he evaporated. Do you think he knocked and the door is locked, but he would just like phased through the door. Maybe they just misspoke. through the door? Maybe they just misspoke. Was a ghost. Maybe. It could be. Dude, if he was confused and he was seen, maybe he like crossed back into the world of the living even though he was a ghost. Yeah,

maybe it was a drowning and he like, why do you think he locked himself into the worker's car? Maybe he thought it was his car. Maybe he used to have that job. Oh, maybe yeah Yeah, or maybe he's one of the ghosts that just kind of is over it You know how there's some ghosts that are just like Everything I'm gonna follow you home like Chi McBride and frighteners Beetlejuice. Yeah. Yes. Yeah Yeah, I haven't seen that but I've seen beetle. Oh, you'd like hers is a film. It is Jeffrey Colman It is a film. Okay. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's like I don't know Friday with that, but I've seen Beetlejuice. Oh, you're right. Fires is a film. It is Jeffrey. Call me. It is a film.

OK. Yeah. It's like I don't know how to describe it. It's a horror movie, but also a comedy. It's like a horror comedy. The only person who could be the main character is Michael J. Fox. And it is. All right.

I like that. Alex, take us out with a fan. Are you ready for something that should be a movie? It's called Giuseppe La Rosa and the Order of Meonia, part four, The Guardian Storm. This is a continuation from the story in the previous minisode based mostly on the book Chronicles of Meonia by Giuseppe La Rosa, aka Joe La Rosa. So if you want the whole thing, go back and start. I believe it is in minisode 133 is where you need to start. This is episode four. I think that's right. Last week, we left Giuseppe, Joe LaRosa and our team aka the nine aka the Phoenix fire Phoenix group on their trip up river towards the

final resting place of the Eye of Fire aka the red stone. Graham Phillips had recently been possessed by the Guardian if you remember, that had been hunting them down aka the red stone. Graham Phillips had recently been possessed by the Guardian, if you remember, that had been hunting them down, the one that tried to kill Terry for stealing his bell, only to be exorcised by another entity from his past called Prester John, who told them that if they didn't get their hands on the stone by the next day at sunrise, the Guardian would return and destroy them. You guys remember that from last time? I do. I do. Oh, I remember. Yeah, I thought the

story was over. Because the Guardian has nothing to go. The Guardian has nothing to protect, so he's just taking his anger out on the nearest guys. Yeah. Well, he doesn't. The person that was meant to pick up the red stone is dead. So they're trying to outrun the security system. So that next morning, the group woke up early on the boat, so they'd have plenty of time to park their boat up and explore the alley. I mean, the abbey, sorry, but the abbey where the stone is supposed to appear and they're supposed to ring the

bell and get the get the directions. But in a farcical turn of events, they were greatly waylaid by a local fishing tournament, which they accidentally drove straight into the middle of and had to turn around. The fucking fishing tournament stopped them from trying to save the world. You know what absolutely sucks? This is like a very British TV show. That's what I was going to say.

We've got to get there and save the world. And then instead of that, there's a full episode that's a comedy episode where they're just stuck at a fishing tournament, yet they have to save a world, but they learn that it's about the little moments in life that really make life worth living and why it's worth saving. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a Mr Bean, but from the point of view of the guy that's normal. Yeah. Anyway, because of this, they were set back. They were unable to find a better place to moor the boat until about 6 45 AM, which took all their time, left them only a few minutes until

sunrise and only the briefest of windows during which they would be able to locate and obtain the stone because they had to be there at sunrise. Right. And also, I figure I should mention this for character development. There was yet again, a opportunity for someone to stay back with the boat. But this time, Joe did not volunteer, ended up staying with the group and

getting involved and actually participating. And Martin stayed back and said, you know, maybe that's a sign he's getting braver and more confident himself. I don't know. I'm struggling to put some character development into this story. Bear with me. Anyway, they realized pretty quickly they needed to be running, which they did. They started running. But it only took that brief

distraction for the guardian to take advantage which it did by grabbing Terry and the who is the bell ringer the linchpin of the whole situation and slamming him down waist deep in thick goopy mud. So Terry needs to be there because he has to ring the bell, but they've he's now in almost like quicksand like mud. I call that a Thursday night, baby. I know and Susan So Terry needs to be there because he has to ring the bell, but they've he's now in almost like quicksand like mud I call that a Thursday night, baby I know and Susan and Graham and it's early in the morning and Susan and Graham are trying to get down on hands and knees

And get him and they're slipping into the mud and Joe's just able to help pull everybody get get him back out onto the main ground But the Guardians plan worked They'd wasted precious time by the time they got into the abbey, the red glow of the stone, which had recently been covering its every surface, was just fading away into nothing. And they saw it actually dissipate and they were crestfallen. And Terry refused to believe they failed and he rang the bell a few times anyway. But soon they gave up and wandered defeated through the marsh towards their boat.

Wait, is this how we all got murdered by the Guardian and how life ended? Not quite, because just when they got back, a new energy course through them, they cleaned up, they had some bacon, they had some coffee, they had some toast. Wait a minute. Isn't the world over? No, not over. They had a temporary soft lock, but they've got a second path. Now they decided that giving up was for bullshit losers.

They immediately decided to turn around. They turned around. One of your told them they only have the one opportunity. Listen, they turn around. They headed back to the Abbey. This time they were confident in themselves. They got closer. I think all your questions will be revealed.

They got closer. They kept seeing flashes of red. Terry rang the bell again and again, but try as he might to receive any sort of message. All he could sort of see in his mind's eye was a random view of the river. And he wasn't even sure if it was a real thing that he was seeing, but it was all they had. So they went with it. And Terry got behind the wheel of the boat and just started driving by feel and intuition while concentrating on the place from his vision. And the weather started to get really bad. The world seemed like it was starting to end.

Rain started falling hard. But at a certain point, Terry felt like it was a time to stop. Graham was too scared to go into a trance because he was worried he was going to get taken over by the Guardian again. So they busted out the Ouija board. They contacted Mary Heath in desperation. And luckily, Jesse's here because he's going to read what Mary Heath had to say.

Dude, this is like a master class in improv. Jesus, even though you were too late to retrieve the full information that I had left at the Abbey, you still have managed to arrive at the place where I last came That's downstairs for me, baby Baby You have made only one error for you should be on the other side of the river She did not just oh Oh, car. No,

I literally wrote Benny from the mummy in my notes. I wrote the right side of the river. Uh, I will shut up. She did not, she does not end it with, I will return. So like Benny from the mummy, they grumbled a bunch and they turned the boat around and it took a really long time, but they did it and they made sandwiches and at 8 p.m.

they were ready for part two of the message, which Jesse will read for you. Now. Here we go. Ready? This is part two. Same same character. Same character.

Amazingly well-voiced character. One time she says be there at sunrise. This time she said eight on the dot. This is Mary You have done well All is not lost for there is still a chance My creation the Guardian is the key to the stone You must try to communicate with him and explain why you are here and what you have to do. You can't just like all can be sorted if you have a conversation with the

garbage out. So much miscommunication. It's one of the things I hate the most in movies. The characters just said what they were thinking. The movie will be over. It makes those which anyway, you must try to communicate with him. Like I said, Gram's body will have to be used. The Guardian is now very powerful.

I cannot stop him. You are in God's hands now. Good luck if all is well. I will communicate later. They decide, all right, I guess we have to get Graham tranced out again and possessed again. So they sit there and they wait. And sure enough.

Eat the mushrooms, Graham. Eat the mushrooms, Graham. After a while, after a while, it does happen. His head goes back, his eyes roll back, and immediately he wakes up and lunges for Terry. But Martin grabs him hard around the waist, holds him down in a bear hug, and they calm him down and they get him to listen.

And luckily, we have the exact dialogue. So we have the exact the exact dialogue of that moment with the Guardian. Yeah. So this is a scene between between Terry, who will be played by Jesse and a possessed ass Gram Guardian. A possessed Gram Guardian, okay. Who will be played by Mathis, okay? All right, I gotta use a little sound effects for this, all right? Please, Guardian, listen to what I have to say. Mary Heath has sent us to reclaim that which you have been protecting. Hmm? The one for the stone is not here.

You lie! No! That person died before she could make the journey. Mary Heath knew this and has summoned us to complete what was done. Hmm. How can I know this to be the truth? We could not have got here without Mary's help. Only she knew the location of the Stone. Her friend having passed away before she could get here. Ah, and you say that Mary led you here. Yes, are you stupid? I've said it like twice now. Mary wants us to retrieve the stone.

Listen, I'm in a trance. Things are very confusing. Understood. That was our task. We mean you no harm. Then who is this that clings so tightly to me? Then who is this that clings so tightly to me? It's only Martin. He's not trying to die. But then the Guardian suddenly reached out and tapped Martin lightly on the forehead with Graham's finger, and Martin flew backwards across the room and hit the wall and fell unconscious.

And Graham collapsed where he stood. And at first, Giuseppe Joe La Rosa thought that the Guardian had hopped into Martin from Graham, but soon they realized that it had dissipated altogether in one final, in one final fearsome display of strength the Guardian disappeared and then out of nowhere, Graham got up again looking possessed again. Oh, excellent. But this time, but time, the energy within him was calm, serene and feminine. I got I'll have I'll have Mathis continue as this new version of Graham, but Jesse stays as Terry for this one for this next scene. No, no, just feminine energy. Yeah, I got you. I'm gonna go. Well, your name's

Mary right out the gate. So we're talking. It's a girl. It is. Hi, Mary. No, that's too much. It's creepy. out the gate. So we're talking it's a girl No, that's too much it's creepy Sorry, it is I Mary the guardian is gone and now you'll be able to obtain the stone But first you must answer a question. It is test to see if you are worthy of the eye of fire. Who is me? Oh, Nia Hmm. Well, I'm not quite sure I... I need an answer, come on! Right, well, we all have different ideas of what Meonia actually is, but essentially, we think it's God? Well, that's correct. But because you seem to differ, I cannot allow you to take the stone.

Yeah, no, that's right. What? That's unfair. Every person has a different image of God, but essentially we all know that it is one and the same thing. It has been decided. You may obtain the stone. I changed my mind. You will need prayer for this. You will know what to do. You have done well. My successors now may be only be with you. Goodbye. And then suddenly, oh my gosh, there she goes. And suddenly, Mary was gone. And Graham woke up again as himself. And Terry was in high spirits. Now the guardian was truly gone. And Graham was ready. And Terry grabbed the bell and they all stood together in a circle holding hands and even though at first they felt nothing as they got quiet and they listened to the raging

storm outside, they became aware of Guervor's presence entering the room silently with them suddenly they felt nothing. They listened to the rain. They became aware of the presence of Guervor the white entering the room with them in the white. Did she already go through her? Guevara the gray phrase first, the woman in white. Quenivere. It's not a lot of Rona.

Yeah. No. So yeah. Did you hear about the movie? La Llorona? No, I'm just kidding. Anyway, anyway. Okay.

Well, sorry. Have you ever wondered why Gandalf the white doesn't have a hat? I did. I you know what? I do. I do. I wish he had a hat. Actually, I wish he had a hat.

Anyway, sorry. Where I like his hat. Uh, Terry rang the bell. He said, I have come for the stone. Graham told everyone to chant one eight, one eight. And Terry rang the bell and asked for the stone again. And this time everybody chanted eight, one, eight, one. And they did this a few more times. And Graham and Terry went out onto the deck of the boat and there were strange lights and sounds and three white out onto the deck of the boat, and there were strange lights and sounds,

and three white orbs descended, and the spirit of the woman... Now it's the alien chapter. The spirit of the woman in white enveloped Graham, and he felt heat leap from the banks into his hand, and when they came back inside out of the rain, the eye of fire was clenched in his fists, glowing red, and that's where we're stopping.

Will be continued next time on the next mini-sode in part five of the adventures of Giuseppe La Rosa and the Order of Myonia, part five. Thank you so much for your support here at patreon.com slash IlluminatiPod. I hope your $20 feels even more worth it than it already was. The redstone is in hand, folks. Can you believe it?

Now what? Do you have the book nearby? You can show it off on camera. This is a turning point. I don't I don't have it. You can just trust me. That's like no. They have to come back. We still have no evidence that he's not making this up. If it's not on camera, this could be fake. It's somewhere in there. There's a lot of books back there. Trust me. He's like yeah, it's in my books back there. Yeah. Alright. Yeah. There's a lot of books back there. Trust me. I've slept in that room. I there are books in there. Yeah, there are books. I'm going to go to the library and I'm going to go to the library and I'm going to go to the library and I'm going

to go to the library and I'm going to go to the library and I'm going to go to the library and I'm going to go to the library and I'm going to go to the library and I'm going to go to the library and I'm going to go to the library and I'm going

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to go to the library and I'm going to go to the library and I'm going to go to the library and I'm going to go to the library and I'm going to go to the library and I'm going to go to the library and I'm going to go to the library? I'm gonna get so many screenshots now. Goodbye. ["Dreams of a New World"] Hello everybody, welcome back to the Jaluminati Podcast. As always, I'm one of your hosts, Mike Martin, joined by the... I don't know who they are, there's two... What?

Terrence Hill and Bud Spencer. No! Neo and Trinity. No! I don't understand and I probably never will. Let me just tell you right now that there's two... Leon Kennedy and Claire Redfield. I'm telling you, I think he literally just looked up famous duos.

Cheech and Chow. And it's just been going through the list ever since. I'm trying you, I think he literally just looked up famous duos. Cheech and Charles. And has just been going through the list ever since. I'm trying to dig deep. Which one of you is Dick Powell? Me? Your name's Jesse Cox. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh

My little children and welcome For the first time don't like either who for the right here can see talking to you now wait the first time What's the last episode I didn't go to the mic. I didn't go to the mic and go, Hello, gentlemen. Oh. That's probably for the best. Yeah. Yeah, I was in YouTube mode. I got, you know, I'm on camera. No, that's probably for the best.

What do you guys think about knowing that when I'm doing this I'm going, Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Well, everybody, only a select tier can see you do that, you know? The very, very select tier.

A select tier. Yeah, yeah last episode Dean took a snapshot of one of the weird faces Jesse was making and at the end of the episode just played it on repeat Over and over again. It was great That's exactly what the people want. It's a mini-sode everybody. So cool. Thanks. It's exactly what the people want and I doubt Jesse's even seen it No, he is not yeah And I doubt Jesse's even seen it. No he is not yeah

We're talking about UFOs Jesse you've been keeping up you've been keeping up with the UAPs have you not I have yes I'm curious what you've been keeping up with I kind of want you to take the reins on the start You want me to take the rain? You're gonna. I'm just curious well I am gonna take the reins all the way over to Vanity Fair where they have an article that they just I'm not sure how old this article is to be honest. Let me look it is from Last week so right literally right after our our show. I'm like the one about other other whistleblowers

No, this one is simply asking a question of like what was the process here for this whistleblowers? Uh, no, this one is simply asking the question of like, What was the process here for this whistleblow? And why did people reject it? Like the article is literally called, Why the New York Times, The Washington Post, and Politico Didn't publish seemingly a seemingly bombshell report about UFOs. Hmm. Uh, since then the New York Times has written an opinion piece on it,

So they have written, uh, same thing with the Washington Post. an opinion piece on it, so they have written Same thing with the opinion piece is like what I know agreed. It's not where you know anyway continue anyway so the story is written by uh I Believe let me make sure I get this correct. I don't want to so Charlotte Klein clean is the author of the piece, but So Charlotte Klein, clean is the author of the piece, but the story was written by Ralph Blumenthal who spent more than 45 years in the staff of the New York Times and Leslie Keene who is the investigative science journalist known for writing about UFOs. According to author, before you continue those two, those two people were instrumental in

2015 and 2017 as well getting out the leaked videos and they're the ones that were instrumental in 2015 and 2017 as well, getting out the leaked videos and they're the ones that were instrumental in getting this guy to go through all the correct processes continue. Sorry, but it's all people who don't know who they are. They're very reputable journalists. And so through this process, according to the author, uh, Charlotte clean Klein again, Keenan, Blumenthal did in fact bring the story to the times, but the paper of record turned it down. The Times didn't respond to requests for comment, but Blumenthal reached by the phone said that,

you know, they passed the paper on. It was an early version back in April and the pair pitched the story to Politico in the Washington Post. And the Post said, we're going to research, we're trying to delve and learn some more information. But they didn't think it was going to be ready for the publication schedule that they had in their minds that they wanted to do. And they had reservations, you know, but according to a source that was familiar with all of it, that it was kind of unclear what members of Congress made of the testimony.

And so the post declined. They didn't want to like publish the thing without Congress being like, yo, yeah, no, it's real. Uh, Politico, which a source familiar noted had the story for just a few days while the post had the story for weeks. And the Politico was like, look, we can't do the turnaround in the time that you need. And the reason why they wanted this out there fast is because, you know, it's the internet age and leaks were leaking more and more and more. And they were

spreading quickly around the internet about like something's coming. And so they wanted to get the story out there before people lost interest or be it was too explosive already. The reason he even went public is his name got leaked out against his. He didn't want his name leaked and it got leaked. And that's why he had to use a pseudonym before, which is like so weird. So that's so I'm just saying like everything is like he clearly wasn't trying to be like the centerpiece for all this every step of the way. It's unfortunate or it's just extremely effective of previous

campaigns in this realm. Like it's just like, it just feels, it just feels like either exactly the things that should be happening or the exact things that always happen. Another thing to keep in mind is the things he's saying are the things that the DOD specifically said he could talk about. There are things he's still not allowed to talk about. So what he's saying has been cleared for one reason or another. Either way, sorry, Jesse, I didn't mean to interrupt you.

No, according to the Vanity Fair piece, when the pair realized that the post just needed more time and there was a clear sense that they just kind of weren't going to go anywhere with it, they took the story to the debrief, and outlet that had published two stories before from them and was willing and able to do it quickly. And that's kind of how we got to where we're at. And yeah, it's just one of those things like it, I don't know. I don't think any of us can say whether publishing it quickly meant they were just going to slow walk until it disappeared.

Or if it meant that, you know, the post, for example, was like, look, we want to research this and make sure we're going to ask Congress, we're going to do this and this and this. And we want to make sure we get this right. We don't know. And I don't think we'll ever know really. But that's kind of where we got to now and why all those things we talked about last time, you know, people weren't talking like willing to publish or talk about the story in the media a lot, even though a lot of 24

hour 24 hour cable news was willing to do so. And the question you have to ask yourself is if 24 hour cable news was willing to do so, why is that? And I don't know that it's because they believed it. Well, also what about all the other stories that they are running? Yeah, no, that? And I don't know that it's because they believed it. Well, also, what about all the other stories they are running? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, I don't know that 24 hour news believed in this story, but they had 24 hours to fill, so they were going to run with it. You know what I mean? Like, there's only so much things you can talk about. And then we were talking about this on a text message that the story sort of vanished in the media media and the reason why is because 24-hour news like all 24-hour news stations Suddenly it was it was Trump and then we're alright moving on there's a new thing to look at we're moving on

It was what suspiciously happened is the next day a fucking Las Vegas alien landed and everybody covered it Way more than they covered rush an obvious fake one It was a clear hoax Right the footage is why like the like alien in my backyard is so silly. I kept sending them photos I'm like, I don't do you see it. I don't where is the leprechaun say yeah The news covered that way more for some reason and then after that it all died and then disappeared. Could have been a crackhead! Yeah.

But, I do remember, that is a great internet, I just remembered what you're talking about now. Just a cultural touchstone of the internet, yeah. Yes, so the main news, you're right, correctly, like, but things are, it didn't stop on the back end however, like unlike a lot of other whistleblowers who are just disappear after there's stitch shit's coming out right now. I'm going to be talking about a couple of those things. The big thing is the evidence that he did file a complaint way before all this went public has come out a four page, the four page congressional complaint filed in 2022, I believe it was. I'm going to link you in here momentarily.

Still pretty recent, but a good indicator that he's at least got his shit figured out for some time. It gives you a long, it gives you like what he's complaining about. And the thing is he was being represented by a lawyer at the time. And a big news that came out a few days ago is his lawyers have left him. That's not technically true. The lawyers only represent people who are currently working for the government. So now that he no longer works, they finished his complaint, they stepped away, and one of the lawyers in the firm that was representing him is splitting with the firm

to continue to represent him independently. So it's actually sort of the opposite situation. But headlines were lawyers leave Grush and then if you didn't read the fucking article you didn't realize why they'd left grush and one Went back to continue representing kind of a weird thing to like make your headline right almost like you just dismiss it He mustn't be for real, but the details are way more Specific than that that's kind of like so how the whole thing is in a way it really really fucking is. I also gave Jesse, and I'll give it to you. The link is in the chat, but I'll give it to you as well. Alex, I'll relink it. Of another thing that's popping up, because, you know, UFO,

the UFO subreddit is really great at finding shit. And this is from 2021. A news reporter, oh, but you can hear him ask, openly asked the Pentagon guy, hey, I've been interviewing people. He doesn't name names because they're all, you know, behind the scenes. And he said, you know,

I'm going to be doing a video on the Pentagon news reporter, oh, you can hear him ask, openly asked the Pentagon guy, hey, I've been interviewing people. He doesn't name names because they're all, you know, behind the scenes. They keep saying you have crash vehicles and bodies. Can you just say anything about that and where they might be? You might think the Pentagon guy would go,

no, we don't have any of that. Here, here you go. John, happy birthday. There's no way that I can like sugarcoat this. I was talking to a gentleman about the UAP report and he contends the Pentagon has alien bodies and crafts. So I just wanted to run this past you. Does DOD have these things and if so, where? The UAP task force is really designed to take a look at these unexplained aerial phenomena,

try to help us get a better understanding of them. Again, I'm not going to get ahead of the report that the DNI will submit that we are helping, obviously, and providing input to them. He hasn't said no yet. I think I'll just leave it at that It's a long walk to say yeah, I don't want to talk about it Dude got caught off guard dude. Just you know train to say no We have a you new UAP office that's to figure out

Across the centuries mankind has had seen UFOs Yeah, like it's just it's just a long gobbledygook answer Yep, and then a few hours like 10 12 hours ago another grush statement was cleared for publication that comes from the DoD So again more evidence that he was just following the right channels. There's your has smoked weed with the aliens. And we'll talk about did you hear like his claims and stuff? Yeah, I watched the whole I watched the whole interview.

And so it's important to keep in mind, he is basically working with secondhand information, the things he's being told. He apparently had photos and videos that he said he was given and he gave that to Congress. They have it Again, the big thing that's also important to keep in mind is if he is lying then Then he goes to jail because everything he said to the Congress It would be considered, you know lying to Congress is a crime if he had it But if he exactly but if he's being told and misinformed intentionally, then we're looking at, then it's different.

But then, but I believe Grush at least believes what he's saying. He believes that these things are likely to exist. My problem is, my problem is if it's true, how is it going to be authorized? And like he's throwing, he's throwing Italy under the bus. He's throwing the Vatican under the bus. He's throwing the government, he's saying the government has killed people to cover this information up. He's saying here is how the technology works.

He's saying it's not about third dimensional creatures, it's about fourth dimensional creatures that have a technology that they can experience differently than us and the slides, why would that all be clear? Well, he doesn't know how it differently than us. And it's the slides. Like, why would that all be clear? He just think he did say that was the science behind it. You know what I mean? And he's saying we have we say we have things and he's saying

we have specific things. And I'm just saying he says, yeah, the Vatican knows and has been researching the U.A. piece for a long time. He's saying we have a relationship with these people, you know, is that in World War, just the beginning of World War two, a UFO in 1933 crashed in Sicily, Italy. That's the other thing I sent you the other day.

That little snapshot of Mussolini's little handwritten like security thing about a crash vehicle. And apparently at the end of World War Two, we fucking took it. And that's how we got that. Is that we we we snatched it from Italy afterward. I'm just saying all that stuff. You're like now you're airing like Italy's dirty laundry, too. Like it just seems so Like I it seems like it must be fake

Well, you would think that again if you look at him I think in as in a bubble what contextual is the the reason that nobody Really like has a definite answer makes more sense to me in what he's saying is just it's a fucking tech Cold War. Everybody's trying to figure it out before somebody else. So nobody's sharing information with anybody. Yeah, it's just he also said Lockheed Martin has stuff and he has other private contractors crossed up. I think for me, it's crossed the realm where I need

either somebody else to come forward and say, no, that's exactly right. And I'm also as legit as this guy, or I need to see some tid. I need to see some tid right away. No, but I mean, like, I need him to be like, these are the images that we're talking. I need like somebody. What I'm saying is people who have his similar record have come forward and said he is speaking truth. It's just that now we do. I agree.

We need it's time for some sort of. I need somebody else to put themselves on the line in the way that now we do. I agree. We need it's time for some sort of I need somebody else to put themselves on the line in the way that he is in the same way. I want it to be I want some evidence that the dam is breaking rather than this just being his thing. It was weird that he said he's starting a foundation in the meantime while he's waiting for this thing to get started and that he needs like support like there's things for other people who have like gone through what he's gone through. I know I get it. It's just it just seems it just still either sounds exactly like

Lou Elizondo So or something like that. What was his goal? What would you say is to go two to three years ago filing his initial complaint was just a long game? honestly, like really like I don't know you know what I mean, but like game honestly like really like I don't know you know what I mean but like this what I'm just saying the form of his emergence and the things that he's saying and the way that he's saying them it's it's very similar he is I see the difference I understand what the difference is factually but just from my point of view of how this is unfolding like there's no reason for the, for the media to undersell the

significance of it. And I think, and I think that right now, like, it's definitely interesting, but I'm just so cock-teased by this again, where it's like, a long, it's like looking at it from like your idea of it being a long game. Also, it doesn't make sense in my mind because he was trying to do it secretly under different names through a lawyer For years talking about talking about 2022. You know what I mean? Like 2021 is when it started for him

Yeah, I'm just saying that's not that long ago. Like that's not Pretty good a cush job in the intelligence agency. I get it. He gave that up It doesn't make sense Like he could he it could be either it's his mission to do this right now, or it could be, which I think is a crazy thing to like entertain deeply. But like, you know, it could be that or it could be that he learned some information about the government or something that makes him want to not be in the government. And he's trying to like position himself as somebody

with some political sway outside of the government and get into the world of, you know, radio. Why is his lawyer leaving his firm to represent him some more? I don't know. You know, that's exactly what I'm saying. Like, there are things about this that are interesting. I would be more believe that believe it that this because again, this was all proved by the DOD. Like, it's not just him saying it in a vacuum. The DOD looked at what he was going to say and said, you can't say that you can say this. Maybe this is their way of slowly starting to get the information out there to us in a slow.

Because there's not going to be a day where the president stands in front of a curtain and then pulls a string. The curtain drops and there's three aliens fucking on the table. Sure. To me, it doesn't it hasn't crossed the line into I'm behind this guy going to happen. To me, it doesn't. It hasn't crossed the line into I'm behind this guy 100 percent yet. That's all I'm saying. I think here's I think he's telling. I don't think exactly what's missing is

two other people that are doing the exact same thing as him right now, like two more whistleblowers emerging, one more whistleblower emerging, some sign of a dam breaking. Oh, we did. But they had to use a pseudonym because they work in government I get it but I'm like where's what you want somebody else who's gonna put I want on the line I want yeah I want more whistleblowers who are like who have the same level of likes to well we're supposed to he also said in the

interview we have more whistleblowers no exactly exactly so I'm ready for that or I'm ready for some tid. We need to see the boys. Can I ask a question? Just like general question about the whole thing. Ignoring the fact that these fourth dimensional higher beings crash all the time, which is a whole thing I have questions about. The question I have is, if we are like, how are we both in an arms race with other countries to learn as much as we can from the crash tech and communicating with these people and talking with them as like we're working together. Like it seems like two disparate ideologies.

Like if we're communicating with them, why are we equally also like are the only I guess I don't understand. Are they friend or foe? Why are we communicating with them? How are we communicating with them? And if we're communicating with them, are they upset that we're taking apart their tech and like storing the dead bodies? There's he that's the thing. Right.

OK, so talking about his interview and the things he said, that's the other thing. They don't understand why things are crashing sometimes They don't understand sometimes they they got a wreck they keys claim aliens don't understand no no we don't understand There was another one where they landed the vehicle left and never came back And then the US took it and we don't know they don't know what happened like they don't know where they went something It almost feels like I mean it's a weird and out there theory that I only just kind of like hurt read the uh today or the yesterday but the idea of like what if they're doing like a bunk up we throw a cell phone at a bunch of monkeys and see if they can figure anything out what if they're purposefully just wrecking shit and seeing what we do with it seeing if we can figure it out seeing what we do with this tech how we treat their bodies

what we do with it, seeing if we can figure it out, seeing what we do with this tech, how we treat their bodies. Well, okay, if the grays are biological slash cybernetic, they might just be drones that have to fly in, crash the thing and then be done with it. We now we also we have also testimony of people saying nowadays, you know, that's mostly like unmanned shit flying around. But why so then we're hoarding their tech, but also communicating with them. Why would they communicate with us if they like

we don't throw a cell phone at monkeys and then sit there and be like, so do you enjoy that? Like we know the other thing he said is like, well, he was saying like they the they they scoop people up the genetic testing. That's the reason maybe like I think it was him who's saying like

Cattle mutilations are not a ship coming down It's like a weird cloud that appears and then vanishes and it's left with just like all these fucking marks on it He's the guess is Genetic testing maybe like just checking things out like we would in the ocean floor like taking something and then being like what does it do? Cutting it open also the idea that maybe the relationship well the relationship like what if the relationship is not Consensual you know like what if they are in They have some sort of serious Control over us or some some serious advantage over us. Or they plan on taking the planet for themselves

And they're just observing us to make sure we don't fuck it up. Well, I just mean, you know, maybe the maybe the government is trying to hide the fact that they are what we are the aggressive ones. What if these things are flying in and we're just fucking blowing them out of the sky? The point is, there's a million ways. The point is, there's a million things that it could be that we don't know. Yeah, we don't know. And this guy is not on the team.

Like none of it makes any sense. Like none of it makes sense. Which fits with anything alien we've ever talked about. It doesn't make a lot of sense. Sure, but it doesn't make sense just across the board. It doesn't make sense. You're talking about just like the logic? We have some concrete details and some more vague illusions.

Well, there might be multiple things visiting us and they're not all the same thing. And then that would explain. That's exactly the problem with the situation that we're in right now for me is that like at this point, like this guy seems really legit. There's something, there is definitely some more attention being paid to this on the government side than normal. Undoubtedly. I mean, they've a Cric, the Gajilla brand said she's looking into like, are there, because

the other thing to remember too is for people who Don't know a aro The uap place don't have title 50 clearance so they cannot go into what's known as sag programs special access Only or whatever programs or sap a program sap's they can't get info from them So they are working without congressional oversight, and that's where like his complaint starts is like, that you're happy. This is the part that you need to be concerned about as the people who run the government. Yeah, but for me, yeah, I guess as long as all I can do is speculate,

I can't like run with a single piece of information. Like nothing is verified. Like for example, like if somehow the Vatican thing could be like verified and then I could go and run that against like other cases They're too busy trying to hush on the same Moment I will say it's real the moment that I will say this is probably real is when I'm running with facts They're giving me and I'm able to see it play out in history like that's all I connect between watching like we literally just had currently right now, a former president is

indicted for walking out with files. We have multiple other vice presidents and other presidents just like did it wander around. Yeah. Like just wandering around with files. The fact that they're playing so loosey goosey with all of these secrets, it blows my mind that we just don't know. First of all, this shit has been being leaked for decades.

Nobody just takes it serious. That's the one. It has been being leaked. Everybody thinks it's a joke. The second thing is these compartments, there's compartmentalized so much. No one's leaking evidence. They're leaking. I heard I saw I was there. I can literally point to 2017 to videos that were leaked. Yeah, no, there is. For two weeks were denied by the Pentagon until they gave up and said, No, you're right. They are.

There's still some disconnect between we have stuff and we've seen stuff. I'm not saying it's evidence that we have stuff, but it is evidence that the government will play games until they're forced to admit shit. Yeah, but there has always been evidence being leaked on top of that. He is the if you read his complaint, he's part of like an organization within an organization. The intelligence community is nested dolls, one and the other of small three letter names.

He was like with the NGA, who was part of the UAP. This and the other. It's these small groups who don't talk to each other followed by Private corporations who apparently also have them that are not talking and everybody is trying to figure it out But nobody's talking like but like you're telling me at a private organization where capitalism and money is key No one has once been like Fn I'm gonna get my I'm gonna get my bank up like well He doesn't know he does say the private corporations sell them back to the United States government

They do sell these crafts and they But I'm saying like there's no person in private sector who's like Yeah, it's too damn big of a story to our people the private sector have come forward and said this But nobody takes it seriously. And that's the problem we're at right now in this whole thing which is all these people, everyone is saying like I've seen it, I was there, I did this and this, but no one in all the years has come with any real, touchable, tangible evidence. It does not exist, as far as I'm concerned.

There might be photos or videos, whatever, and all that... I mean, there are photos of meta materials that are owned by Jacques Vallee that are said to be no way made by man because of the way they're compounded, but you're looking at a hunk of metal, so how are you gonna know? But that's the thing, like... That's what I'm saying! It's like, there is no evidence at the moment, like, there's nothing... And until we get there... Nothing verifiable. There's nothing and until we get there

Yeah. Yeah. Until we get to that moment All this stuff of like I saw it. To me it means absolutely nothing now. We're at the point. We're at peak UFO. If they don't deliver The general public I'm like over the not delivery

I'm so. It's like such Like Alex said, the biggest cock tease in history. And I'm like over the not delivery. I'm so it's like suck like Alex said the biggest Cocktease in history and I'm so over I like don't I'm upset and don't care I guess I'm like he's a little bit able to you you're you're again looking at him in a bubble the only reason he's Yeah, the way he's doing it is because the law that was passed that protects whistleblowers Happened only two years ago. So for two years, he's been doing it legally. What we ask of these people to do it this way. And what do you want us to do? He had 11 hours.

Right. But I think Alexander saying we are at, we are at the summit. We're at Everest. And unless an alien comes down and says like, we can go higher, there is no place left. What do you want? What do you want this guy to do when he says as a piece of paper says, there's nothing. There's nothing this man can do. No, no, no, Mathis, there's nothing this man can do. There's nothing he can do. There's nothing anyone else can do except deliver the goods. He's not discrediting himself. He's not being shady necessarily.

What I'm saying is so many people including you have asked for somebody like This to come forward he's here He's here he's saying he's saying yeah, that's the difference yes, yes Everything is still look over here the moment that it changes from look over here to look at this I'm some information that you up because you're looking at it in a bubble He's not doing it. This man said blower I was told or some guy told me he is as credible as the person who told him. I'm not looking at it No, you got to take in the context. He's saying this with the express allowance of the DOD

He's not a retired CIA guy. Yes. We do We have the paperwork. We do know this is all stuff we actually know. But then how do we exist in a world where people get killed for saying this and he's saying it? Because you're assuming the government runs like a one a machine that all works together and isn't independently aware of different things. And if it doesn't then why are they not more like physical? Because they're keeping shit secret because that's what they'd rather do. Let me clarify. Are you saying are you saying we're just definitely looking at a guy who actually has seen aliens and it's definitely not?

I'm saying is we're looking at a guy who definitely isn't trying to make a buck off of this. OK, this is not a man trying to spin and sell a story and get his 15 minutes of fame. Yeah, nothing about what I'm my point of view is right now. I don't think any of us are saying that with the character. No, it's the long game, right? Yeah, what is exactly that's exactly the problem is like right now. There is nothing about connotation. You immediately put like doubt by saying he's in the problem. Is like right now, there is nothing about- But it's a negative connotation.

You immediately put like doubt by saying he's in the long game. He's saying I could be- what I'm saying is it could be a million different things. And that that report could be there either. Like we've all agreed. This could be disinformation. It could be a million different things. The thing that's frustrating about this on June 14, 2023, and I think Jesse's going to agree with me here,

it's not that we don't see the things about this that make this special. The problem is that right now, as we're sitting here yelling about it, right, there's nothing here that's going to change anyone's mind yet. And until, and according to, according to Grush, we're headed towards that moment, right? We're headed towards the mind changing moment.

According to him. And that's good. But right now, from where I'm sitting, as somebody who's gonna say, yeah, this is a pretty big one, we should probably think about this before we put all our cards behind Grush. I agree with you. We're still, yeah, but that's what I'm saying is like,

the reveal is that we all just agree with each other. The reveal is that, the thing is, I just think treating him like every other whistleblower is a mistake. It's not that I think he is like every other whistleblower, it's just that right now we still haven't progressed past the point where anything about what he's saying is any more credible than anything else. I know you want photos and stuff.

So here's my question. If the US government truly has UAP technology beyond anything we understand, do you really think they want the world stage to know we have it and are working on it? Or do you think they'd rather keep that to themselves as best they can because we are monkeys throwing bombs at each other, not an enlightened civilization. Then why even acknowledge videos or say that this is a thing? The Pentagon didn't until they were forced and then they denied this. Why were they forced? What forced them? You know the government don't do anything. A large scale concerted effort from inside the government, a large scale effort from

people inside the government to a large-scale effort from people inside the government to disclose would be would be... But if it was really truly, but that's what I'm saying, even without the evidence, they would remove the problem. You know what I mean? Like they've done that before. For smaller things. If enough people, if enough people came forward like Grush, even without evidence, if there was like four to ten more people as legit as publicly not behind pseudonyms because they still work in the government that's what I'm saying like it has to be the same as Grush a lot more times even without evidence then I will start to be like we need to fight for these people right now I'm not convinced what

it needs to be is someone with something to lose. Yeah. We have, Grush, there's nothing, he's not going to lose anything. We need someone with something like, who if they come forward, if they say this, it will hurt them in some way. Or it could be that Grush has already said the thing that will cause other, like if the House of Representatives starts digging into this and they start to say, hey, this is real, then that's that's another thing. Like that's another time when I would agree with it without evidence. You know what I would say? Yeah, I agree with you, Alex. What I would say to Jesse, though, is the man is being harassed.

He's he's actively complained about it formally to the Congress that he's being harassed. His phones are tapped. People are bothering him trying to shut him up. Like I'm not talking about like I'm talking about on a grander scale I'm talking about like someone in a place of actual power using that to to deliver this message that like it's real and as a result they will lose that power and that's a bit like that's a major like okay now we're getting there. Because Elizabeth Warren came out was like, I'm going all my I'm throwing my career away. Right. Aliens view. Do you then I think kind of like understand the issue

because the people within like Senate and Congress don't have they don't know what's going on. They don't have Title 50. Aaro doesn't have Title 50. The people who actually have the power are the ones that don't want Congress to find out and none of them are gonna come forward because they're rich and powerful. But then why do the people who have power allow this guy to do this? Because they're not, because they're not,

because they're SAPs. They're programs that unless you have title 50 authority, you don't get to know about them. Right, right, but like why does a shadow government allow this to happen? It's not the shadow government, it's just the military industrial complex. It's the new law.

It's the whistleblowing law. That's the only reason. Yeah, the whistleblowing law is brand new. I understand, but like, let's start from scratch. Let's like, if the three of us ran the, if we're like the three richest dudes in the world and we had all the damn power and we knew there were aliens out there and they were doing stuff and whether it was fourth dimension or from space or whatever, right? From the future. Doesn't matter. We knew it would change the world. And for years we had been like, ha ha ha, disinformation

this and this and this and this. And it threatened our control of things like once there are things that are more powerful than us we lose our power why on earth would we allow people to continue like you're making a solution just the delusion not just like their power who says these things are threatening their power anything that has more power than the most powerful people is threatening their power well that's just like something how they genuinely mentally can understand because it's technology. They don't understand. What do you want them to do? But you're saying we're communicating with them.

Well, we don't know. We don't know. He says that there is a relationship of some kind. Sure. And if there's a relationship that relationship, whether built on like we're working together or we fear each other or whatever, those in power, if someone can come here and we can't stop them. They're more powerful than us. Yeah, but see that you you are walking down the road of conspiracy because then the answer is well the theories that's where Wi-Fi came from and all this other stuff.

I'm not like doing any of that. I'm saying that if we are the three most powerful people in the world and we we have allowed all this like yeah yeah, like whatever, let them talk. No one's going to believe it. It doesn't matter if they start getting close to the actual truth and they're pushing for the truth to come out. And we are like, yo, this isn't like I don't my question is why wouldn't we silence it or why won't we tell people don't say a damn thing? Like, why are you even acknowledging it? Why are you massively? Compartmentalized into multiple small groups that don't talk to each other right nobody fucking knows okay?

But then where is the follow-up of Batman runs the Bruce Wayne is Batman subreddit dude Exactly he does like he's the he made it. He's the mod. He's the Follow-up to what? No, it just doesn't there isn't a logical like it There's a logic here these people who have these things have empathy of any kind beyond selfish interests I yeah, no, but that's what I'm saying. They're selfishly interested. Why on earth would they allow anything to get? Who says they are? Who says they are?

The whistleblower law is a brand new and was not approved by Lockheed or any of the you think any people with real power give a shit about a whistleblower law? The thing is, it's still in the realm like it is now. It's just still in the realm like UFOs as the subject matter. Like it's like the whole like the whole idea that they could be spacemen could be disinformation to protect the real truth as a matter of this. It could be an AI. Yeah, the whole thing is to muddy the waters, you know what I mean?

So letting him talk isn't really that significant in that way. To me, the thing that's more interesting about him talking is that if it is true, and he is revealing things about America killing people to cover these secrets and stealing things and getting involved in a Cold War-esque way. It's weirder that they would let him say that if it were true, but the point is not whether the things he's saying are real claims. It's just that he's saying- So that just points to the disconnecting the government because the Pentagon-

You can't keep falling back on that as like, well, the government is a mess. He's just basically saying, I'm here. And I did the D.O.D. said, we don't know. And then that White House said, ask AARO. There were three different answers from three huge branches of government. And his message is just I'm hearing all this crazy shit. We need to look into it. Not this is real for sure. Yes. He's like, these people are telling me these things exist.

He's been researching it for he ended up researching it for three to four years well after he learned about it and decided there was enough there to bring it to Congress to put an 11-hour testimonial out to file a complaint with Congress to go public after his name got leaked It's not that he's a whistleblower and not that what he's saying is actual truth This is the first whistleblower that tried to do this in the legal way like without just going on like some Fox Yeah, going on fucking yeah, like fucking Fox News or talking to fucking whatever that asshole who's on Twitter now Cucker Tarleton the him It's so what sucks about this is I see how passionate you are Mathis

And I know that this is something that you really respond well to but also knowing Deep in my soul like I mean this in the nicest way possible when this video slash episode Finally hits the public version not the patreon but the public version Nothing will have changed. Nothing will. That's that would and that's fair. If that happens, I agree with you.

I like I promise you nothing will have changed. Hit us up in the comments and let us know if you're part alien or not yet. That'd be great if you were an alien. Nothing will change. And that's it goes back to what Alex was saying about the inherent problem of where we are at the moment, which is. Camera quality is better. There are more people with actual like go time. Bonafides, right?

Let me give you an example, though. We've got a high definition video of a triangle hovering behind someone's backyard. Do you believe that that was real or do you think it was CGI? Because now our video is good enough. But I'm saying, like, at this point, it doesn't matter because we've reached we've reached peak UFO where we can have the highest quality thing. We can have the highest like person and we can have people in government come forward until we've reached

the zenith and anyone who comes out after this has the might have the exact same credibility as this person, but we are pushed no further to the truth. I am holding that's a problem. Singing the same song as you for me. This is the pinnacle of a whistleblower. There is no better whistleblower than this so far. And if I like Jesse said, I don't know if there's anybody who could do it the right way and maintain the right credentials and it be a bigger deal than this unless it was like Biden, you know, someone who would lose something. Yeah. So now the next parts are watching where this goes, because he's still in the process of filing it and all this shit and still happening.

The whistleblowers, he said that are coming forward. We'll see. he said that are coming forward, we'll see. But yeah, it's we need some sort of now we're at the point where there needs to be a photo that's clear, that's in a hanger somewhere. That's like, no, from the government, like this is an this is an alien spacecraft. Yeah, I think we again, I think we're all on the same page. We're just coming from different chapters of angry about it.

Yeah, it's just like this is what I've wanted from a whistleblower. I've heard so many I was ex-CIA I've done this it's like 900 of those people This is what anybody would want from a whistleblower. But this is the only one that's gone through the right channels Yeah to try and do this and then ended up having to go public because his name was leaked It's just not enough to make me feel like the world is different yet. That's all.

Sure. Yeah Like for me personally the thing that would get me be like, okay, I'm ready is If for example, you know how they had the Trump boxes and there was one box that was knocked over? If they had photo of the knocked over box and then in that box, a photo that was in there that had the alien, like whatever, and then they gave us the paperwork that had, that was in the box and the paperwork said this was recovered then, and this is this, and it had classified written all over it.

Then I'd be like, okay, that is something that a man stole, that a man hid, that then we now have access to, that then has actual paperwork with it. Then I'd be like, okay, now we can continue on. But right now we're stuck. We gotta keep watching the X-Files. So he's in his test, I mean, like, OK, now we can continue on. We got to keep watching X-Files, man. We got to keep watching X-Files. So like, yeah, so he's in his test.

I mean, in his interview, he said there were photos and videos. So he's on record saying there are these physical evidence that exist. So now I agree with you. It is time for those somehow to give me one, give me two. I just need something that gets the photo evidence going. The other person I would say, continue watching is Avi Loeb and the NASA team. Avi Loeb is doing Project Galileo as we speak. NASA's legit.

NASA's like, this team that they put together are great. Avi Loeb is like, he's really interesting to follow. And he's going after something that he believes is a piece of a vehicle that crashed into the ocean. And some people believe it's just a meteorite, so he's going to, He believes is evident is like a piece of a vehicle that crashed into the ocean. And some people believe it's just a meteorite. So he's going to he wants to find it and test it and see what it's made of kind of thing. He's the other one to watch in the NASA briefing come August. Yeah. Maybe that's like in the really conspiracy world.

It's like maybe this is happening. Maybe the D.O.D. is allowing little things to come out because people, the private world and NASA and all this are starting to make their own pushes. and they're going to figure it out if it's there one way or another. So maybe they're trying to get ahead of it. Again, that's massive conspiracy theory world, but it's an interesting thought. But again, I agree. I think we're on the same page. I really do.

I just, I'm more excited that this guy is the only legit whistleblower in my lifetime I have seen. And that's why I guess I'm so excited as somebody who's just like loved this stuff for so long. Yeah. So now let's set aside the arguing and talk about something that's definitely true. Yeah. And that's Giuseppe La Rosa. Very true story. The Order of Meonia. This is a new, this is the Stones of the Tree of Life, part one, that's today's. This is a continuation of the story in the previous minisode, based mostly on the books

Chronicle of Mionia by Giuseppe Joe LaRosa. So if you want the whole thing, go back and start in minisode 133. Last time we told the story, this is a short one today, we told the story of how our hero Giuseppe Joe LaRosa witnessed- Can any of you type out? None of you can hear what's happening in the background, right? No. Someone above me is having like dirty ass sex and I'm just letting you It's probably somebody who heard about the fucking stove.

Can you move the microphone closer to the wall please? Here's the problem is it's literally just a dude going uh uh and I'm not okay right now but like alright please continue I'll be quiet. I think that's ideal for this story actually All right, I got a finish I'm gonna mute my I heard that I'm telling you dude. I can't hear it. I wish I think you stop Jesse speaks and he breaks the noise gate, I think I hear it a little. Alright, here we go.

Last time we told the story of how Giuseppe Ciorlerosa witnessed the discovery of the red stone and how now their group of psychic adventurers, sometimes called the Nine, have both the green and red stones in their possession. So that's two stones. And now it's time for a new story arc to begin. What is it? What has happened? What has occurred? Jesse looks like so loud.

I think it stopped again, but like literally it was like, Oh, you finish. I hope he's like that. I hope that you don't get like a notice that like the man above you died of a heart attack. No one no one helped him. Dude, then you could get haunted by a horny ghost. That would be so sick, that would be worth it. So this one, it's a new story arc. If this was a comic, this would be a new story arc.

There's a whole slew of fresh information here for you that you've never heard before. And it all started in December of 1982 when Terry Shotten, the target of the Guardian from the previous arc, got a call on the phone. Luckily, we have the story of what happened during that phone call in Terry's own words, as told to Giuseppe the next day. So Mathis is going to impart that story to us now. The other day, something strange occurred. The phone rang and I picked it up. There was a strange noise coming out of it. So Mathis is going to impart that story to us now. same noise as before. Uh, uh, uh, rhythmically over and over. But at a slower rate this time.

I put the phone down thinking some kids were playing a joke. A few moments later the phone rang again. Once again I picked it up and was determined to shout down the phone to whoever was messing about. The sound was slower this time, and as I listened, I heard my name repeated several times. Instantly I began to realize that something was unusual. Something usual was occurring. Somebody or something was trying to communicate, but the voice was at the wrong speed. I told whoever it was to slow down because with the speed that they were communicating

I could only catch a few words. In a flash, like a record on a turntable put onto the right speed, the words became intelligible and I understood who was communicating. So pretty weird little intro to this new entity. Forget about Guevara and forget about all the other characters. We're expanding the the lore. Yeah, this entity you've heard of before. You know this character even better than Guinevere,

and that is Pan, as in the literal Greek myth, God character Pan with the goat legs who plays the flute. Mr. Tumnus? Yeah, Mr. Tumnus from Inside the Wardrobe. He said that he needed to have Gram come over so that he could possess Graham So Graham came over and wait come over where to Terry's house into the wardrobe, right? Sorry my bad Yeah, you know him with some uh Turkish delight He knew he was like he was literally like call him and have him come over right now so he did and then he let pan Graham let pan come into him and

he under his influence, a Sederwood, a Sederwood, honestly, they'd be the ones to do under his influence. He told Terry and I think a guy, Mike was there to tell them that this was there also. And he told them that they all had to dig a line. So Adam and I know it's all real. I witnessed some wild shit in England back in the 80s. Yeah. So they dug. So he told them they have to dig this hole so they dig this hole they all team up They're gonna shovel they dig this hole once the holes dug. He's like, what do you see and they're like nothing And he's like you must have seen something tell me what you see and they're like come on This is an improv lesson now. Come on. We're like now. Let's go. They they're like I cannot see anything and he's like can't you see a hole and

they're like yes there was a hole and he's like well that's something isn't it and so this whole story side quest in like Morrowind yeah exactly so this whole story was being told by Terry to Giuseppe over a glass of wine. Of course. And next thing that Terry... So you're telling me there was a satyr fucking somebody else. Yeah and basically what happened was Terry then, he poured them some wine and basically gave him the background for this next arc of the story. This is evolution of the tale for sure. And this is going to be Jesse now as Pan

telling us telling us the new like Vaati Vidya esque lore for this era of the stone saga, the stones of the tree of life. You manatee can't see the wood for the trees. Their perceptions limit them in seeing this reality as it actually is many thousands of years ago a group of being set out to visit earth because it was going to be a long journey they were placed in a state of suspended animation due to Lord Xenu and destroying their world.

Oh no. Alright. He laid them at the base of a volcano. What they did not realize were that consequences of being put into suspension for so long. What happened was that the spirits came to earth prior to their bodies. When they arrived here, the spirit? This is Scientology dude When they arrived here the spirits knew that they had to do something to await their bodies arrival

So they all entered the indigenous animal life forms that inhabited the planet basically The time is near when the space with the bodies is due to what? Basically the bodies would require the spirits back to become animated again What nonsense is what that is? Nonsense incredible story. I don't know that was probably the best thing I ever heard so they just sat there and Thank you as a little delay Great story the whole audience loved it, and then they all stopped clapping immediately at the same time They just sat there in silence. Hang on. There we go. Thank you. That was a little delayed. Nonsense.

Great story. The whole audience loved it. And then they all stopped clapping immediately at the same time. The sign cut out. They had it out. I felt like 30 seconds of it was too much. It's a live feed. It's a satellite feed.

So they sat there sipping wine. Giuseppe just took his wine and just sort of sloshed it around a little while, processing the information. And then he spoke up finally and he said, quote, that's some story. If Pan's statement is correct, the arrival of these beings is going to be a massive historical event.

And then Terry said, quote, that it most certainly will be. We'll just have to wait and see. And now the story's going to continue in the next mini-so. Dude, is this all leading up to the the birth of L Ron Hubbard or something? You have no idea where this is headed. That's what I'll tell you about I don't! Aliens are part of it now, but in the form of hand?

My point is the aliens have been there from the very beginning bro And you don't believe Grush after all this? After the green stone? I think he- The actual- Listen he didn't mention anything at all about mantises. So I don't know what to believe. Oh man, the mantis ones are scary. Yeah.

Um, but there you go. Next time on this mini-show, the serialized pulp adventures of Giuseppe La Rosa continue. This is honestly my favorite way of doing the story, honestly. It's much better to get a little bite-sized bit each time. Jesse, you know, you get a little Ba impression every time you do know you get a little impression every time you get pans was I just a lot Pans in the story more great. Yes Just get ready Like nonsense young professor Xavier to play him what do you mean this really happened? This is nonfiction, bro

This is my basis for alien belief Jesse. You're learning it right now You know what if by the end of this if it ends as good as I wanted to end I may be converted I may be like yo, that was pretty good. This is my Lord of the Rings dude I'm just feeling it. All people you want in a cult you want somebody like Jesse as a true believer He will I will hype up the cult. The fan fiction writers. That's what we need. Yeah, dude Yes, you got to get like the the kpop stance somehow too. Yeah, the only thing missing from this story there is no there is no like OTP there's no love interest like I'm waiting for that to have worries like then Cheryl and I locked in a heated embrace Knew the end was coming

Yeah, I don't like I feel like they'll hit all though. I feel like they'll hit all I'm excited by the end I hope so I'm like they'll hit all the I feel like they'll hit all I'm excited by the end. I hope so Like everybody will be satisfied. That's what you know that Zelda might be part alien that dude. That's a whole that's a whole other situation actually like We should do like like Conspiracy theories in the fictional world's episode No, it's not even the first king of Hyrule is an alien who lands on the planet. Yeah, it's ancient aliens, bro It is it's ancient aliens. It's hilarious. Let's not look. I don't want to spoil tears of the king. That's not really spoiled No, you're right, but I don't want I want to do how do you land there?

What was he doing could not tell you I actually don't know I can't get into that. I can't get into that I want to know now Where which timeline this takes place Ain't is it all of them it's question is the question is which animals have the alien spirits in them that these aliens need Are we gonna find that out? I'm going moose. I'm just saying squirrel. Oh, yeah, I don't know where it said it But you'll find out next time. I hope it's one of the more like offensive ones Like one of the ones that like really piss like snakes yeah just like like some dude Harry Potter platypus has to be alien dude it's so

fucked up it seems like a glitch bro koala bears it's anything with program the pusses octopuses got body whoa whoa time out the pie wait so their soul soul I their souls took over animal bodies We're waiting for their bodies to arrive. Yeah, and the bodies are about to show up and so the souls Are gonna move exist like are these animals immortal? I don't know what the you order the animal between animal when you went in the final next time on the minisode I'm rooming your brain. All right. Well, we'll be back next week as you The picture I'm rooming your brain.

All right. Well, we'll be back next week. As you do. I got my eyes. Is that why all dogs go to heaven? Oh, I could do it. I can do this for 50 more episodes if you want. I don't understand. Did you know that like the week that I announced the Greenstone was done, he like put out a new book and there's a new shit going on over there. So cool. So cool.

Uh, I somehow this is you were right. And there's like a new shit going on over there. So cool. So cool. I somehow this is you were right. And this is more entertaining than the first part. Like it's just like more entertaining as we go. Yeah, once it's now like firmly, there's aliens. We're in we're in a whole other world, dude. I can't wait for that to happen in reality and in that book. I know right. Could happen at the same time about it could.

Greenstone. We're creating reality. Yeah, it's Um, we'll be back next week with another heaping dose of something educational Probably maybe not at least fun, right? Bye. Okay. Goodbye Uh...