Chilluminati Podcast - Midweek Mini - NASA Detects Signs of Life?

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

Minisodes 163 and 164 (from January 2024) MERCH - http://www.theyetee.com/collections/chilluminati Special thanks to our sponsors this episode - All you lovely people at Patreon! HTTP://PATREON.COM/CHILLUMINATIPOD Jesse Cox - http://www.youtube.com/jessecox Alex Faciane - http://www.youtube.com/user/superbeardbros Editor - DeanCutty http://www.twitter.com/deancutty Art Commissioned by - http://www.mollyheadycarroll.com

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For more tips on recycling, visit toronto.ca slash recycle right. Hello everybody and welcome my little Chaluminots to Minnesota 160. episode one sixty three. Well, a little chill in the. Oh, yeah. You know, it just doesn't make it any better. The more you do it, the longer you do it. It doesn't like it is one of those comedy bits where it gets funnier over time. It's better when there's guests to they make they love it. Yeah, they look like they love it.

Especially when all those guests are women it always is great yeah when they get to sit here and just watch us creep on like yeah it's great us being us just us being us exactly no it's you we do we're not afraid to hide who we are we're not gonna hide who we are I am very afraid people can't know the real me that guy is a pervert no no see that's not. I am very afraid people can't know the real me that guy is a pervert No, no see that's not true. I just want aliens. I don't want humans humans are right. Yeah, no yeah nothing perverted about like Must I remind you I hate that you have a little tiny alien. That's like remind us

Posing I hate it Aliens are pretty hot right? Oh, it's not hot at all. It's weird right right It's weird. This is one of those times when you wish you didn't pay $20 on patreon.com slash to watch a video of this Yeah, honest everyone not seeing those right now you lucked out has an ass. No she kicked up, dude She caked up, dude Anyway, she caked up, dude. Patreon.com slash soon 90 products. Welcome to the mini-sode. Hello everybody.

It is an alien focused week for our main episode because it's been an alien focused couple of weeks. Oh, in the real world. We talked a little bit about it. Lots of crazy stuff. Yeah, we talked a little bit about it with Nat and Ali of Let's Get Haunted last week, which is awesome to have them on. It got really existential really quick with them. It was cool of them to stay for the minisode and then also cool of them to stay for an hour long minisode. Yeah, an hour long minisode, which is crazy to have them on.

It was awesome to have them on. They're great. But yeah, the big news is really the Jellyfish UAP. We've got two camera angles of it now that are out there in public that you can see both of them. And as Jesse said in the main episode, however, they keep talking about this other part of the video where it goes in the water and leaves the water. And Jeremy Corbell says it exists, but he doesn't have it. And I don't. But he trusts the source that told him it exists.

Who are these people ending these videos up into pieces like this? Yeah. Why is that occurring? I'm just editing these videos up into pieces like this. Yeah, I said occurring. Welcome to my love hate relationship with Jeremy Corbell because the man knows he's in the entertainment world and he's using he's trying to leverage the aspect of entertainment and it just it's frustrating. I don't know what there's no other word to say that to describe it

because it's upsetting that the most compelling information is the stuff. They're like we don't have footage of that Like the idea of it goes it goes over the water dives in the water and then X number of minutes later shoots up at a 45 degree angle and then Vanishes like that's the most can be like where's the foot? That's the problem with all this. I sent you guys a great Reddit post last night that was like, we got to stop making UFO stuff entertainment and just make it facts because it just ruins what it is. It's so true.

It's so true. I think there may have been a point where the entertainment angle was the better angle to get the word like just to more awareness, more public awareness. But now everybody knows like UAP is pretty common. People know what they are, even if they don't talk about a lot, like it's pretty common. There's a legitimate,

justifiable intellectual interest in it that's palpable right now. There's reasons to be asking questions. That the FBI through FOIA requests, we've learned that the FBI is and probably was, it probably is watching in like heavily monitoring Avi Loeb, the guy who went out into the ocean to scrape the ocean floor and got those little things. Like they have been watching him apparently and just like monitoring what he's doing and what he's getting and stuff. That shit's interesting.

But Jeremy Corbel, like, you know, back to him and that is just he's he's like I say he's a net good for UFO world but he's just the entertainment angle from him makes it really very old school it's very old yeah yeah cuz he got us a 2017 videos all forever be grateful he got us his jelly UAP video which is pretty fucking cool it's pretty good but he's also the guy that put out a video that was very quickly debunked as flares that we you know and he's like I didn't know his flares, this and the other and maybe maybe he didn't but you got to do better than that. And he just isn't up to the task to doing that. But the spectacle of what it is wears off very quickly. And people suddenly want to know what it actually is behind it. Like, all right, so what are we looking at here?

And there's no answers. There's nothing that this says or describes in any way. It's just, here's the thing. And we put it out and that's the biggest inherent problem is that because it's done entertainment wise skips the point of like the sourcing and the vetting yeah and unfortunately because of what this footage is there's only so much to look at for so long before you're like okay and what it just falls into the category of another thing that we've now seen that is floating around and no one

has any answers. And after a while, it's kind of just like, okay, but like, what are we gonna do? You can't say, well, we have all this other information, but no evidence of that. You know what I mean? That sucks. That's going to continue to suck. I wholeheartedly agree with you. It's that whole fucking aspect of it. If like, tease, tease, tease, kind of disappointment. I'm not saying the jellyfish UAP is not impressive. It's weird. But we don't know what it is. But if we had that video of it going into the water and then leaving that it would still be just as unknown. But now we have even more like context of its capabilities to go, okay, what the

fuck? Is that like a creature? Is it a ship? What is it? It worries me that things like this have the same vibe as I don't think everyone either knows someone or has been this someone where you tell a story. And as you're telling the story about that time, you did whatever you realize you're losing people's interest. And so you throw a little just like, juice it up a little bit. And that's the vibe I get from this, which is we have this footage and it's good footage, but there's

nothing interesting. It's just footage. And then it's like, but there's this other stuff though, like you can't see it, but it's like it goes in the water and then it shoots up and then it disappears. Like, it has the exact same vibe and it makes me just really worried. Because now that's the legend does now That's the legend of that thing like now is a suit of armor now

It does go in water even though we don't actually have any evidence of that And I think of any reason to even have brought that up to mention it Why not just present the video footage that you actually? Physically have as it is right like why do we have to play the game? Do you hear me Corpo himself says he doesn't have the footage He doesn't have the water footage. So why are you even bringing it up? Let it go leave it alone Because now you just it sounds juice here. It sounds more interesting. It gets people more excited But if but it should what it should do is add doubt add more doubt or make you be Weird as to why it's being quote-unquote kept away for whatever reason

I will say I've watched plenty of videos. We've talked about, we talked about this last week. Uh, sure. I've watched plenty of videos where they've gone through and they've looked at the footage that exists and the other angle, I guess there's another angle of it. And, um, they've looked at all the footage and everything you guys are saying about like, well, we can't detect any sort of like emissions from it. And like all that stuff everyone's like yeah no it's all we're reading it as something we just don't know what it is

and again fascinating stuff if they approached it scientifically but even those things are done by like youtubers who are doing it for entertainment purposes sure so it just is so frustrating because everyone's got like bump, but it didn't done done done done done done done done. And it's like them looking at it, like, what if it is? And I think I saw maybe one or two people that actually did it normally instead of like, yeah, we live in the era of content. Everything has to be content.

Everything has to be content. Everything has to be your minute to get big real quick, you know? This is like science. If this is science, science doesn't need to be content. I don't know. It's just frustrating because I think we're at that point. And I know you both agree with this, that, you know, all right, we get like everyone is like, OK, yeah. And I think we all just want more. And when you keep trying to sell it to us as the exact same vibe is like, okay, yeah. And I think we all just want more. And when you keep trying

to sell it to us as the exact same vibe as like alien autopsy in the 90s, then people are gonna be leaving you less. They're gonna care less if it's got like got a goofy vibe to it. Absolutely. And I mean, even on a smaller scale, when it comes to Corbel, him and George Knapp's podcast weaponizedized, which, you know, has it's very good and bad. They've also done that same thing where they tease, they tease, they tease up to the episode. They've got this huge photo they're going to drop and they drop it and it's fucking nothing.

And it's just nothing. It's happened multiple times with Corbel and Knapp over their podcast. So it's another of those like, what, like, stop, just stop. But he can't, like you said, a sensationalization for the sake of since since realization since since does he have some sort of mission statement like is there some so he said he like I don't know what this I think he does because he says he hold he the footage that we got to see they him and George Knapp have had for years and they were spending years verifying you know where it came from to make sure it is what they said it is where it comes from a military a plane it's military footage, it is this weird thing that they can't figure

it out and that it was buried. Then once they were able to finally verify it, they released it, which is what this whole thing was. And today the DOD came out and like we said in the main episode kind of made the same statement they made in 2017, which ended up eventually two years later, them admitting that yeah, no, that was real. Kind of saying that again today, which adds veracity to what these things that there is at least a government video from a government device, but it doesn't, it doesn't mean it's aliens. It doesn't means we don't know what it is. And you pair that with the

skip meeting that happened as well. Over the last meeting is the most compelling thing of all because they're not saying anything but they're like, we got new information. It made us go what the fuck? Yep. And we have to go and we have to walk away really fast. Gotta go. Yep. On both sides of the of the aisle to that from the democrats and the republicans. Basically, what we know is Grush was finally was able to get a closed door hearing with him. And he gave names. He gave names like he said he was going to. He gave the name of we know is Grush was finally was able to get a closed door hearing with him and he gave names. He gave names like he said he was going to. He gave the name of we know Lockheed Martin is one because somebody came out on Twitter and just straight out named them and a couple others that supposedly have debris or some sort of remnants of what these things are and that they've been working on it for a long time. We don't know the details. They gave people to contact. And we also learned that Grush in 2020 or 2021, while he was still part of the government,

pitched the idea of what would become the AARO that we have right now. It was named something different. I sent you guys like all of that in the text of like what the name of it was. And then that whole pitch that he gave them eventually became the AARO. And then Kirkpatrick was put in charge of it, not Grush. But I think Grush was already gone by the time that that was put together.

And beyond that, the other thing that one of the Congress people came out is, you have to keep in mind, Grush keeps saying it's not ET. It's more inter-dimensional, is the word she used to the press after she was walking out. And if that's true, I mean, maybe I don't know. She said what she said was like she said like she wasn't like, I think it's interdimensional. No, no, no. She's in crushes words.

She was like, he is just very careful to say that it's not aliens and always says that it's interdimensional. And that's all I have to say about that because that's all I know about that yeah yeah pretty much um yeah go ahead Jesse sorry I don't want to I don't know I mean it's it's interesting to have the topic change from aliens to interdimensional mm-hmm just because it's one of those things where that could mean anything, right? It could have any sort of meaning.

I don't know. I don't know where you take something like that because it is, I would say, to be honest, if I'm being real, cause we always talk about this and I, and I think about it often that like, um, imagine if you're a, uh, just an average citizen, right? And you only know kind of, you know, what's going on in your day to day life and your work and stuff. And you're taking care of your kids. And the assumption of aliens, right, is that I think most people would agree the universe

is massive. And the idea of aliens existing is a possibility. And if aliens are here, like, okay, like we'll deal with that. And if you're very religious, you could say like, well, God can do anything. So like aliens, sure. The concept of an alternate reality, I think is far more dangerous and scary. And if that's what they're hiding, I think that's far more interesting because the idea that on our doorstep of perception is we just have to open the door and we or someplace else and they're already messing around with us and we have no concept of that.

And how do you explain that both religiously and you know, philosophically and all that stuff to people that I mean, sure multiverse is a vibe, but that's not like that. That's not a different like different dimensions is a whole other can of worms that people, I don't know that they grasp. And you are, I think you're, I mean, you're dead on in that, like a lot of the talk of the past few months, especially as Grush, not necessarily just Grush, but like prior to holidays and everything kind of went quiet. And the kind of thought theory a lot is the reason it's considered catastrophic disclosure or they don't think they're trying to necessarily hide some of the aspects of the truth from us is because they can't control it. It's

interdimensional and whatever that means, whether they're bending space time or whatever, they can't do anything to stop it. And not only that, but they've been around and they can warp our perception of reality. They can warp reality around us due to whatever science they're using. That changes. I mean, we can't stop them. The idea that they maybe have been floating among us, imperceivable to us for thousands of whatever years, that they're not coming from another nuts and bolts planet, but they're like dipping in and out of higher dimensions or reality, whatever. Yeah, that stuff is so like it. It seems like it's really easy to comprehend something like that. And then it like, and then it like makes sense. But like the way that they're talking about it, it seems like

they fully comprehend. And I don't think that something like something from a second dimension that we can't grasp is like something that they would be this confident about. I don't know about I don't know. But I just watched that 15 minute long video and none of them were like, shaken to their core like Jimmy Carter. You know what I mean? No, a lot of more like we move the needle we have we can move forward. We have like a direction Could be that he's don't have all the information, you know, like it also could be the fact that you know This is a simplistic example but you know fish live in a fish world doing fish stuff and

We exist around them and we can pluck them up and we can mess with them We can do whatever we want and it makes you question whether can mess with them, we can do whatever we want. And it makes you question whether we, you know, like we think of ourselves as humans is very self centered, like we are the alpha dog of our existence. And when you pull out, it could easily be that, you know, we are those fish, and we don't know anything of what's going on. Like it could be, you know, a stick figure thing, like they don't have a concept of's going on. Like it could be, you know, a stick figure thing. Like they don't have a concept of a third dimension. Like we would either. And the, the fourth, fifth, eighth dimension, whatever they can be running the show. And

we're just like a weird pocket dimension of like, Oh, those guys, whatever bro. Like, you know, it was like, we could be fine with that. I'd be fine being the garlic dimension Like oh this is why shit goes down You know people always like wolf aliens come humanity's gonna like be rocked to the core. No saying that like humans even space like our universe is Unimportant because there's other Versions and other dimensions of existence that like space and time that's kids stuff. We are nothing like that. I think would mess people up badly to the point where they would question existence because like we're just sacks of goo really compared to like a light being. Who knows man That's existential that would mess people up. I agree I think I personally like it would blow my mind, but sound no

Yeah But it makes all that stuff like what like when you hear the story about like a dude who was I was married for 16 years in my 30 seconds, I'll be a trip like Yeah, sure. It could just be projection and stuff. But also when you say stuff like that, it could be that guy went to a different existence for a little bit like who knows man. And on top of that, like I don't know if you've noticed, but we've been getting tons of mainstream article articles mainstream media articles about uaps lately and a lot of them are focused

and even since last week when I talked about hims lately. And a lot of them are focused. And even since last week, when I talked about them, another couple of drop, a lot of it's focused on the idea that, okay, stop taking these ideas, no longer to take them as a joke. Let's take them as serious, like let's scientifically approach them. And I'll consistent focus on the idea of that, Jesse, that we're fish in a sea of misunderstanding, zoo theory.

The idea that there's no way for us to comprehend what these things are doing. And that's a big reason the government is hiding it because they don't fucking know and they can't stop them from doing it. And I feel like that's always been the case. Right? Like, yeah, the reason why they would hide it isn't because there's some conspiracy or there's some sort of like, thing on we're in league with them i think if it's the exact same thing with like us and ants we're not in league with ants we don't concern ourselves with them and we'll walk into ant territory when the hell we feel like it and if we want to step on it we can't we can kill all the ants if we want we just don't because we don't

care the ants with fucking cinnamon bro what are you do they're nothing to me? That's what I was like that's what I'm saying like in the it makes more sense if you think of it that way That whatever these things are they belong to things that aren't even considering us as worth their time They're here. They're looking like an ant colony. Maybe they're looking in and they're like But do you think that squares with what we're seeing? In a way, I think it does. In a lot of ways, I think it does. I don't necessarily think ants is a great comparison, but closer to fish, I think, is better because they get scooped

up and tagged. And if we are going to take the abduction scenarios as at least 1% or 0.1% of them is true, it's closer to them treating us like animals. They don't have any secrecy Why the secrecy then why the national security secrecy because if the government truly cannot stop it They cannot literally do anything to stop it You want the government to come out and say all this shit is happening

We don't know like if it's if it's interdimensional, but we can't we can't do anything because the government Will be you like the whole point of a government at its core is to protect its people it just doesn't i get that but that just doesn't square to me with what like behavior i've seen like on the part of these skiff like well because i think you have two different factions in the government the younger people who are more interested in getting to the truth and maybe the old guard that have just been hanging around for decades since like the sixties. But the young group still wants to maintain power. Like I agree with Alex that is that is a flaw in the whole thing where it's like even the young people want to be like become the 75 year old who's still in Congress.

You know what I mean? Well, like they want to be there for 30, 40 years. So why would they give up the power by saying, Oh yeah, there's actually these guys that run everything. And like, we don't really do anything. So like just elect us again. You know what I mean? Like why would they do that? Yeah. I mean, I guess the other, the other answer is actually that it's not necessarily the government themselves, but the people like Lockheed Martin that are keeping it from the government and keeping it for themselves as best they can. Business industrial complex

is a whole other thing. We're talking other thing. But now we're talking about technology again. And it's like, I think that's more... Which also eventually trickles out to us. I think that's what it feels more like to me, than any sort of like... That they just have technology that if we knew they had... Just based on how everybody's behaving, that's how it feels to me. It doesn't feel like the secret is existential. Like it doesn't feel like the secret is like. Existential like it doesn't really seem. It doesn't seem to me like the senators are walking out of these meetings like. Like, sure. Oh, it's interesting that that's the case in.

Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting because we know that the idea of NHI are mentioned constantly. And he I think in the hearing he said that he believed that he was told rather and he also keep that. Well, get that second, but like that we might have biological remains somewhere. Yeah. And when I say he's been told it's not like crush has one

dude feeding him information. It's a bunch of people that came forward to crush across different agencies to bring it forward when he was in a position because number his position was the UAP research position. So people understand that I get that. Bring it forward when he was in a position because number his position was the UAP research position So people understand that I get that that's a it's it's believable But it's not just I just want the idea of one dude is feeding him everything. That's not the reality Right now I just think it's intense and millions of dollars are being wasted right like yeah

That's the big thing the Congress people came out is like it is clear one way or another Millions and millions and millions of dollars are being funneled to something that we do not have access to me that speaks a lot more to all the money research and and actual technological developments more so than like we have a secret about the nature of reality that we need to keep. the nature of reality that we need to keep. Why can't it be both? What if these things are... I'm not saying it can't be both. I'm not saying it can't be both. But all the challenges and all the things that everybody has been talking about so far in the Skiff hearings are a lot more about being frustrated that the paper trail is compartmentalized, being aware that a lot of money is being spent on something without a lot of answers, and not a lot about, like, I don't want to talk about that for matters of national security. More just like, I don't want to talk about that for matters of national security,

more just like, I don't know what the fuck this is. It doesn't seem to me like they have been learning anything or it's shaking. That's all. It goes more to what to what Grush is like, testimony is, and that it seems like a lot of what he's saying is, here's things I've been told, like you were saying, Mathis, but also, I have no real evidence, the more outlandish things. So let's stick to the things that are tangible. And so that can be explaining why Alex is in like the idea of, okay, we're going to follow the money and do this. That makes more sense because yeah, at the end of the day, it really is

about what you can do. You know what I? And it so if the angle of attack is okay Well, we know we're spending this money How are we spending it on what instead of there are these things that fly through the atmosphere that we can't stop or control Like why would you even talk about it then like why would you even? Yeah, you're right like a hundred percent correct like the things they are I can be actionable about our Lockheed Martin getting these things where they can actually hold hearings and push following the paper trail, following the money, which will eventually lead to the truth, whether it is government tech that is just super way beyond what we thought we had, or if it is something that we don't understand, following the money is going to give us the result one way or another. You hope. And if something is going to drive us all insane, right? If there is a piece of information out there that's going to cause the downfall of society if it gets out, maybe if you learn that piece of information, your plan is not to disseminate

that information to everyone as readily and as broadly as this. Do you know what I mean? If you thought there was a risk. Oh yeah. No, I mean also- Society crumbling, you might not be so on board for that. The interdimensional thing is something we've talked about in the past

and it fits a lot with like just a lot of what we're learning about like science as we progress, but also like the way these things seem to act as like nonsensical, the way they move, the way they can sometimes shape change, which is really weird. What if, bro, what if the matrix theory is correct? There was a paper that came out. Like nonsensical the way they move the way they can sometimes shape change, which is really weird if bro

What if the matrix theory is correct? There was a paper there. They're logging in to the world. They've created, bro Hey And we're all we're all here's the thing if I'm yo can I get an upgrade like what's going? Can I get like a Jesse to like this is some bullshit? an upgrade like what's going can I get like a Jesse to like this is some bullshit like a Jesse 2.0 upgrade give me like water breathing give me water breathe yeah give me some like powers or something come on now make me park kangaroo let's go you want to be a kangaroo man yeah are you kidding me I'd

bounce on my tail I wouldn't need a car I I just bounce wherever I'm going Those guys go fast I'm gonna have to find it. There was an article that came out literally fucking like last year I mean last week and you it's simulant almost last year. That was pretty close. It's true. Very true There was it was on simulation theory and he basically did a bunch It's just a bunch of math that I didn't understand. But the idea is, he ran through a bunch of math and a bunch of like, what equations and shit, and basically what he boiled it down to is like, it's more evidence that we are within a

simulation, the idea that you can find mathematical patterns, not only in like technology and programming, but within biology and the way cells act across everything that we know, we know you can find these mathematical patterns embedded in all of them. Like they're all there always. And to him, that's that speaks of living in something that is programmed, something that is set by a rigid set of rules that could say when you say simulation theory, he also goes to say he's like, I don't necessarily mean like you're on a hard drive. It could be a weird, un-understandable biological simulation that we don't get. But it also, to be fair, could be like, I don't want to say chicken and egg, but kind

of the same vibe where the reason why we understand it is because math is the universal language. And so everything has math in it, which is why we learn and study math, because that's how we learn more about all that other stuff. So to say that it exists, well, yeah, of course, that's why we're learning it. And people are spending their entire lives mastering the concepts within because that's, you know, it could be that as well. I, yeah, I agree. He spoke in a language I didn't fully like.

I didn't understand. Nerve language. In three days ago, a Guardian released an article that said, that's titled, quote, it only takes one to be real and it changes humanity forever. What if we're being lied to about UFOs? And like, just like articles like this are just popping up on mainstream media and shit. It's worth thinking about. You know what I mean? It is.

It's worth entertaining. That's all. There's not real facts in front of you though. Just the link. You know what it is? It's worth it's worth entertaining. That's all. There's not real facts in front of you though. Just thought I'd link. There's not definitive facts in front of you. Nothing. We have yet. You have as much as we have as much as the rest of the world has out there in terms of evidence and a lot of it's hearsay. But it's just interesting to watch the narrative around UAP's shift in the public sphere, I think, overall, to one more that people are more open to the idea that they might be real and they're not necessarily something to laugh about.

Yeah, I wonder when there's gonna be like, do you ever think about a tipping point where society becomes so interested in UFOs that rather than the truth, people just like, yeah, they exist, they're here. Like, that seems like a very politician anything. You know what I mean? Like everyone's so interested in the answer that someone's like, yeah, I've seen him. I know. Yeah. And everyone's like, oh, okay. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, feeling do we might be approaching that kind of tipping point? I don't know, though. I mean, it feels like they're here, but then you just say it because like 1875. It feels very 1906.

Like guys talking about dinosaurs or some shit like there's so much ego. There's so much like fucking, you know, bravado around it. There's so much competition. There's so much like money floating around. It's kind of gross, but it's like, I don't know, it's like a new idea. It's like a new concept and we're settling it like the Wild West. So of course, it's not like math, it's not like somebody just figured out some new math problem and everybody like, there's like, you know, hundreds of years of like math establishment around it to like, contextualize that discovery and kind of vet it and make it all make sense in the world of math.

UFOs, it's still fresh, it's still new. We didn't have this conception of this for a long time. So there are hucksters out there. If you look at this picture here in this article of Grush sitting at this table and who's behind him, the various different figures and UFO-ness that are behind him that like even just me like give me like looking across give me different emotional reactions to seeing different faces there. Some make me angry that they're there. Some I'm like, well, yeah, that guy deserves to be there. Some a little bit of both, you know, and I didn't see that picture. Now I'm looking at it. I'm just like, yo, this is goofy. And if you think about this picture, and then you think about like those pictures of like those like paleontologists

Standing outside in front of the like dinosaur skeleton They just pulled out of the ground they have no idea what the fuck it is and they got the thumbs on upside down or whatever And they're telling they're making up new dinosaurs with the same shit. It's the same You know what it is the same kind of shit, but eventually we got the dinosaurs. We figured them out. Right. And it makes, and again, it goes into that idea of like, if we're sitting on, it makes sense if it is interdimensional, why we just don't understand any of this shit and the government doesn't want to tell us because we don't fucking know. We're holding the skeleton of the dinosaur upside down and saying we've got it figured

out. You know, we don't know any shit about it and it's fascinating. But yeah, the UAP world's like back in the spin of things and it's fascinating but uh yeah the uap world's like back in in the spin of things and it's interesting to hear what's coming out um that's kind of my topic for many so today and it kind of took up 30 minutes so i don't know if you guys even brought anything i did but it's it's fine we can save it for next time yeah save it for next week uh yeah all right cool well thank you guys so much for uh over here patreon.com for uh supporting us and for those in the public watching this like a year later maybe we're living in a world where the jellyfish is from the fifth dimension who knows I want my own Anubis floating mech tech

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You deserve the intimacy. How about that? I like it. It's a good tagline. I like it, what do you got for us today, boys? I got you a great story. I got something fun. Oh, I got you. I got you a story from the high strangeness subreddit. That's what I got. We love it. We love high strangeness. You want it? It's time. Yeah, do it. Yeah. Yeah. This is from user. Squatch. From today. Sounds like the cousin of some bulb. Yeah. What the heck did my son see? And this is tagged. Personal experience. I swore I would never be that parent who doesn't believe their child when they share a paranormal experience. It sucks to have something scary happen to you, only to have your mom or dad dismiss it as a dream or your imagination.

But when my son, Ten, told me what he saw, my knee-jerk reaction was to ask if it might be his imagination, because I didn't want him to be frightened. I asked him to swear he was telling the truth. He's not one to make up stories in the first place, but he swore this is what he saw. And he's still pretty terrified. He was sitting in the living room and heard a noise coming from the hallway. It was a flapping, crinkling sound like a tarp. He saw a tall black figure wrapped in this tarp. He said it wasn't a shadow. He could see light reflecting off the black

material. It's a 10 year old boy. He described it as a tarp because of the crinkly noise it made. It wasn't flapping freely. The tarp was stuck to the body stuck. And he could see the shape of the head, neck and body. He couldn't see the feet, but he said it floated by it wasn't walking. He saw it glide slash float across the hall, presumably from my room, and it went into another room and out of sight. Has anyone experienced something similar to this? We call it black tarp man. What the freaking heck is this?

My son is already terrified to sleep in his room because a lot of weird noises happen in that room. I've heard the sounds as well. I can share these in another post people interested. I normally don't get frightened of anything. But the last three nights I freaked myself out thinking, what if I look up and see black tarp man next to the bed? Then I cover my head with the blankets like I'm five years old. Now the reason I brought this up is because it I was just reading this earlier today. And it did remind me of an episode that we did on here with Pat Contri as

the guest if you guys remember, when we did that medium musician house in San Diego with him. Yeah, where you saw like something down the hall. Well, he was talking about in his life, there was like a family story about like a black crinkly sort of like shrouded figure over somebody who was sleeping. And then they scared it or kicked it or something. And it went and flew like flew not walked like through the wall. So, I don't know. I just I heard this story. That's like similarities. Yeah, I heard this story and it literally reminded me of that story so much that I thought it would bring it up to you and connect those two things together because I just thought it was so freaking crazy.

I can't find anything online that even relates to something even remotely similar. And I've been looking and I got nothing. Well I have, I obviously don't just type in black tarp man, cause that gives you nothing of value. It's not. Yeah. I can imagine it gives you much. That's that.

That's not the like cool 4chan cryptid name that it sounds like it could be. Right, right, right. Tarp man. Yeah. Uh, so I got some comments I want to read also, uh, to this article or to this post, first one's from Kinoid who says, whatever it is, or whatever you plan to do, if anyhow possible, try to empower your boy and give him something to diminish that fear. Like do craft a quote, magic weapon

together, where you take an object, some toy or maybe and then imbue it with mum love or something, telling him love always beats fear and that no monster can harm you then. Of course, if you are both religious slash spiritual, you can also include that. I just want to say for the record, that's the that's the winner. That's the best possible answer that you could give a child that you could it leads to creative craft with a parent. That's so good on a billion levels. I love that. That's cool. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. So the so the next comment in that same thread says it's from Oh, Canada, Canada, Canada, who says, excuse me, who says, I'm a big fan of teaching people how to

make the reball resonant energy balloon from the gateway tapes. My friend said that it really helped with their sleep paralysis, night terrors, and surprisingly, IMO day to day stress from work. And then I don't know what that is. But you can look it up a reball resonant energy balloon from the gateway tapes. And then space cowboy 78 replied to that and said, mine looks like a see through yellow photon torpedo with biological lines on the back. Hardly a balloon.

And then Oh, can ananda can Canada Oh, can an that Oh, Canada said, okay. Yeah. So, you know, reddit still read it, but yeah, right. It's still being read it. Yeah, that's a cool story, though. Creepy shit. And I like that. It does line up with somebody we've had on before.

That like story that usually is rarely happens. I feel like. Yeah. UFO Nodder says a black figure with a detail is form is not uncommon. Here's a few different depictions. And maybe you can show these to him and see if any of these line up to what he saw. And so I have. I have this. I don't know how useful. I don't know how useful these are as like visual aids. I'll post the link to you guys in the chat. You guys can tell me and kind of describe what's being seen here.

None of them are super. Okay. So the first one looks like, imagine if a, you know, Meryl Streep in the movie doubt. You know Meryl Streep in the movie doubt. Yeah,eryl Streep in the movie doubt yeah but then like cover her completely from head to toe in like a plastic yeah yeah yeah and then there's one that's a point of view that looks like three shadow men and some guy the person that we're looking at looks like he has a scouter on from Dragon Ball Z. Yeah. And he detects that these three men are over 9,000. Nine, there's one that he kind of looks like a, uh, remember how in the eighties and nineties

there was transformers, but there was also like another type of bootleg transformer. And one of them looked just like this dude with like a kind of cone head. The triangle heads. That's that guy. I can't remember what those are called. Go bots. Go bots. Yes. He looks like a go bot. Is that what that is? And then the next image is what is clearly two Mothman. Yeah, airbrushed Mothman in a bedroom. Yeah, it kind of is. Next one is airbrushed yellow eyes Mothman. The next one looks kind of like a ringwraith. But like with like a yellow glow from Photoshop effects like around it.

Yeah. The next one again, like the backside of a ringwraith. This one's like the original, like dungeon master's guide drawing of a necromancer. Yes. Yeah. But only from the back. The last image is of slender man and his friend shadow boy. They're saying this is the size of a man. And this is the size of this dark figure. That's like seven feet tall. Right. Right. Right. How How size of a it's a slender man. Tell me I'm wrong. And shadow boy. However, boy. OP saw that list of images and said thanks for this link. My son said it looked most

similar to the first picture except tied around the legs. And then UFO not a rope back and said, and this is the one that we said looked like Merrill Street from doubt from behind, or with no features just like a trash bag tied in the shape of Merrill Street from doubt. Just in case you or anyone else were wondering where that first image came from. Here's the story behind that. Tuscany, Italy, July 1987. Mrs. Anna Rosa Giovannetti had gone in the morning of the end of July 1987 to go mushroom picking with her brother in law. The two are separated when the young woman saw up in the sky an object that

she defined as two wings and a little bit below on the Alp she saw two strange individuals walking in their hands. Like, I don't know exactly what that means. Again, what is that? Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what that walking on their hands? The two were separated when the young woman saw up in the sky an object that she defined as two wings and a little bit below on the Alp. So like, two wings and like a little thing underneath the Alp and then two strange individuals walking in their hands? I don't know, in their hands, maybe in their actual hands. Not sure. Maybe I don't know what walking in the angels hands.

Well, so it says I mean, this was maybe this is translated with Google Translate. It said it was unusual on the path. The young woman amazed called to a brother inin-law but he didn't reply. He was much further down the river. The two beings perhaps realizing the reaction of the woman, they suddenly stopped about 200 meters away from her. They looked very tall to a normal man. They wore a kind of chaplain kind of tonk on the head was sort of a round helmet. The torso was very tight as a resemblance akin to vinyl. And this is I'm guessing that first image that I showed you guys. The two didn't look like they were walking but sliding like they were on an invisible tape. After about two minutes, they resume their journey and looking behind some big bushes. Meanwhile, the brother-in-law didn't see anything unusual. Later on her return home, the lady felt an annoying malaise to an unusual sleepiness. And Squatch Squ's I said, Whoa, this description sounds eerily familiar. So pretty crazy. Similar, similar creature

in Italy. The UAE UAP paranormal stuff. It's all the same. Italy, right? The Vatican, right? Yeah, exactly. You see, yeah, you're good. Yeah, see, what'd you got? What'd you bring us? Well, I want to start This article that I have just by reading a quote from it because it sets up the entire thing. Okay It's just they don't want to what now Hey, I see a moving I see him moving the nice nice you did I'm see him moving. I'm moving. I see him moving. I'm moving. I see him moving. I'm moving. I see him moving. I'm moving. I see him moving. I'm moving. I see him moving. I'm moving. I see him moving. I'm moving. I see him moving. I'm moving. I see him moving. I'm moving. I see him moving. I'm

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apparently discovered something at NASA. And they told Ars Technica that look, it doesn't mean anything yet. So don't overblow it, people are over blowing it, they're losing their minds. But basically, we discovered an exoplanet. And this planet is giving up, I'll just read the quote. The observations may lead to the initial identification of potential biosignatures that could make habitability more or less likely for this said planet. Essentially, due to the James Webb telescopes, you know, pretty near mythic capabilities, the telescope detected potential biosignatures on exoplanet K2-18b last year, a suspected ocean world around 8.6 times more massive than Earth and about 120 light years away. According to them, when asked like, okay, but like,

what did we find exactly? Are there aliens? What's happening there? They're like, okay, what we discovered is that the biosignature detected on K2-18b is a molecule called dimethyl or dimethyl sulfide. And it's a smelly substance that on earth is only produced by living organisms. So this is a huge clue that this world, which is also in the, it has big oceans, it has hydrogen rich atmosphere, it has the Goldilocks zone going for it. So it's in

the perfect place to spawn life. And they're saying based on all this, and the fact that we're detecting this molecule, like, if there's anywhere where we're positive life would be, it would be here. They have no evidence of it yet, other than that information. But they're like, we're going to run some more tests, we're going to do some things. Trust us. We're not trying to hide anything. We just have no answers for you yet. And I'm like, that's that's cool. the James Webb telescope works and the way we operate, we're still very much like just picking, you know, it's needle in a haystack stuff, like to find a planet that is, you know, able to do life and has signs. That's still so fucking hard to find the fact that we find one is cool and maybe indicative that they're hopefully more common. We just you know, we get hard for us to fucking find planets because an infant number of them out there right now. And they're also saying look, the the dimethyl sulfide, it can be produced without living organisms. But but on Earth, it's only produced by nature living. So yeah, so it gives us the potential for it to be there. But doesn't mean that's the case. I want to have to do like what net test they want to do to like like see if it is because like they detected now what?

How much is it? Maybe I don't know. I mean I would the first thing I would do is turn every Sort of like radio wave detecting satellites I put all of our focus right there and like let's find out together all the countries the world Let's go. Let's figure it out. There's got to be other tests. And I'm sure they know this that we don't. There's definitely other things they could do to figure it out. Because, again, you know, when SETI or all the different programs, they're just sweeping the sky. They there's so many directions you can point that it would take forever to do it. So

now that we have a target, I say screw it point everything there. Let's see what we pick up. Yeah, who knows? And we're also detecting them because they're so far away. We're kind of seeing them in the past, quote, unquote. Yeah, it's 120 light years. So that's a pretty far, but galactically not that far. No, no, not at all. But it's just like, that's awesome, dude.

That's so fucking cool. And it may capture the imagination. It's just exciting. It's exciting to hear. I wonder if we're still going to find microbial life on some of the moons in our solar system I still think there's potential for that too, right? Like I'm some of the moons are on Jupiter There's a couple that have like just like deep deep oceans and like microbial life. Maybe is out there They don't know Titan the one I think usually the one they talk about. Yeah, that's the thought I'm thinking of I think is Titan. I wonder I wonder if we will one day if well

I don't know how you even begin to detect that that's's so fucking cool though. I hope, I hope there's something there. I hope we get to live through. I guess you would have to go there, right? Like they've said numerous times that there was clearly something going on on Mars in the past. It's probably all dead now, but like, if that was the case, then surely other places in the solar system

would have to have something. Even if it's long dead now, there's gotta be something. Does that mean it early in our solar system's life there was multiple points like multiple planets or planet toys that had life like was life common in early solar system i mean there's a lot of mystery because we have the fact that like we have a we have a moon which means at one point something hit us and knocked off a moon we have an asteroid belt on the other side of Mars, which means like, there's clearly something going on over there. Why is that there? What happened? There's tons of stuff that

we just don't know about the history of the solar system that we can only guess really. Yeah, yeah. It's such a cool idea. I love that. My article is a little bit more existential than that. This comes from last month. Love to have my money. And we're going back into the world of AI and bio organics. And last month, AI was made a type of a quote unquote AI, of course, was made from living human brain cells and was able to perform speech recognition on a basic level.

I'll go over what that means here. So you that yeah, walls of what balls of human brain cells linked to a computer have been used to perform a very basic form of speech recognition. The hope is that such systems will use far less energy for AI tasks than silicon chips do. This is just a proof of concept to show that we can do the job said Feng Guo at Indiana University in Bloomington.

We have a long way to go. Brain organoids are lumps of nerve cells that form when the stem cells are grown in certain conditions. They're like mini brains, says Guo. It takes two or three months to grow the organoids, which are a few millimeters wide and consist of as many as 100 million nerve cells.

Human brains contain around 100 billion nerve cells, to give you an idea. And the organoids are then placed on top of a microelectrode array, which is used both to send electrical signals to the organoid and to detect when nerve cells fire in response. The team calls this system brain aware. Very imaginative. Sweet. New scientists reported in March, this last month, obviously that goes team had used a system to try and solve equations known as a Hinnon map for the speech recognition task. The organoids had to learn to recognize the voice of one individual from a set of 240 audio clips of eight people pronouncing Japanese vowel sounds. Japanese vowel sounds.

The clips were sent to the organoids as sequences of signals arranged in spatial patterns and the organoids initial responses had an accuracy of around 30 to 40 percent. After two days of training, their accuracy rose to 70 to 80 percent of being able to recognize the voice out of 240 samples. That's the training. Yeah, the training simply involved repeating the audio clips and no form of feedback was provided to tell the organoids If they were right or wrong, which is different How we do AI now because we just tell we try to positive influence AI to let them know what's good and what's bad

This is more like this is relation of the software. Yeah different hardware Yeah, I think yeah in a weird way. Yeah, they go. They said this is what's known as AI research as Yeah, I think, yeah, in a weird way. They go, they said, this is what's known as AI research, as unsupervised learning. There are two big challenges with conventional AI. One is its high energy consumption. The other is the inherent limitations of silicon chips, such as their separation and information of processing.

And his team is one of several groups trying to explore whether biocomputing using living nerve cells can help overcome these challenges. So yeah, they've been able like brain cells that are tiny are able to recognize individual voices, and they're clusters of about 100 million nerve cells. I'll send you the link you can see like the little picture of them in a Petri dish. Okay. That's it. There you go. Where you're starting to use brain cells to try and figure out what how to better use AI.

Because that's basically the problem is like our that's a picture of it right there. It says brain organoids growing in a Petri dish. It looks like little CG guys. They're so I'm sure it's like mega zoomed in. They're so pure. The best way to describe this group who can't see this. It's like white dots. Thought ice cream.

You ever get like a dessert or a cake cake especially a wedding cake where they do those little Sugar pearls the ones that are just like hard exactly like that. Yeah. Yeah, it is exactly like that Really like I was saying like the big thing with an AI that they're really trying to figure out is like The brain operates basically way better than a computer does at way lower temperature and AI requires huge machines that are just generate a fuck ton of heat and require a ton of power. And they're trying to figure out how they can bring the power like load down.

And they just looking at human brains as to like how to do it. You know what I just realized? They're dipping dots, the ice cream of the future. We just, we said, me and Alex said that. We were too busy thinking about ice cream cake. I was too busy thinking about everything else. Sugar Pearls Sugar Pearls.

Yeah, Sugar Pearls. How do you feel? How does that make you feel, by the way? How are you feeling about that? Remember in 2021, they did the brains playing pong things. So they've been fucking around with bio organics for a little while. I mean, it feels like the way things will go simply because we don't have enough. Of like the metals to produce a lot of the things we need to make a lot of

this work. So they have to come up with something else and especially AI. The fun thing will be when we get to the point where it's like, no, it's bio. So it's like a brain AI. Yeah, is that a person then? And then it's like, welcome to the future. It's about to get weird. At that point, we're debating is is like cybernetic implants, the next stage of human evolution, you know, like, is that is that. It's about to get weird. At that point, we're debating is is like cybernetic implants, the next stage of human evolution. You know, like is that is that really what we become?

And then maybe we come to the greats. I'm ready. You know, I'm ready to be implant stuff. I just don't want any of like Elon's shit putting me nothing. That's a zero chance. Probably make me die. The thing that's unsettling to me about it is that it also kind of feels like when the Borg finally take us over. This is like this is like proof that they can like, think singularity, like take us like

use our brains and like use the things that we use to think as come on, what if that immediately leads into like a fun conspiracy thought? What if that's what the aliens are growing us for? What have they been ushering our evolution so that we can just become part of the great machine as a processing part? Right exactly. Exactly my concern.

That actually is kind of scary. I hope that's not true. I'm gonna let you guys know I don't think it's gonna be a concern for any of us. Yeah we might be dead by then. But if we can get the technology. Before any of this is a thing we'll be long vaporized. If we get the soul transfer device out of the Dulce facility, we can live forever.

The what? Yeah. Would you be yourself, dude? Your ship of theses at that point, dude, I asked myself that every day when I think about it is a kid. You are transferred into a different body. Are you the same person, dude? Right?

Are you? Am I the same person as I who I was when I was 10 years old? All those cells are dead. All those cells are dead. Yeah. are dead yeah yeah yeah they move and get regenerated like your body ain't the same fair okay are you you and that's where we're gonna leave the mini so thank you all so much for supporting us here at patreon.com slash illuminati pod where we question the very nature of reality we'll see you next week everybody bye bye pod where we question the very nature of reality. We'll see you next week everybody. Bye.